The David Knight Show - Mon 27May24 Memorial Day Best of Interviews

Episode Date: May 27, 2024

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You're listening to The David Knight Show. As the clock strikes 13, it's Monday, May 27th, Year of Our Lord 2024. Well, today we decided in the last minute to take the holiday off with family and friends. So we're going to do a Best of Interviews broadcast. You know, for Memorial Day, it's a time that we remember those who died serving their country. But does the government value those who serve? We're going to begin today with our best of interviews we're going to begin with davis jantz who defended military service members from

unconstitutional unlawful orders to force vaccinate them and of course the fight is still going on for over a quarter of a million military personnel we're going to talk about the film seals beat biden that tells that story next we have katherine austin fitz're going to talk about the film Seals Beat Biden that tells that story. Next, we have Catherine Austin Fitz joining us to talk about the rising resistance to digital slavery and the key to that fight, financial transaction privacy. Aaron Day will be joining us to talk about the fight against CBDC and Jay Warner Wallace on his new book, The Truth and True Crime. Stay with us. We'll be right back. Have a good holiday. I don't know that I've ever done anything or been involved in a team effort, because that's what it was, a team effort that had more return on investment

than that one in which we engaged in. Capital of Afghanistan. Bow to the Taliban. If you want a better new normal, anytime soon, Americans need to put on a mask. He told me that there was no chance that my religious accommodation or that any religious accommodation would be granted. And sure enough, within hours, I was terminated. I had no income. I had no health care benefits.

I had no job. They come in handshaking, angry, telling us that they don't want to hear about our rattlesnake religion. Saying that we never wanted to be SEALs and that we're not courageous enough to fight war. Anything below 95% capacity in a raid is considered critical. My rating, the rescue swimmers, we were at 89% and the commandant is ready to cut these guys loose over a vaccine mandate for an untested shot. The oath is not for the easy times. The oath is for the hard times. And it's whenever you have to make that choice between doing what the Constitution says

or doing what someone else is telling you to do. Be a patriot. Protect your fellow citizens. I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. Every military member does that. So if military members' rights are not protected, they're not protected for the rest of society. These are the individuals that are actually willing to risk their lives to fight for the Constitution. Are you willing? Would you be willing to throw your stars on the table over a principle?

Would you be willing? And that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God. And I meant it. So SealsBeatBiden.com. And that is a very powerful documentary. And you saw our guest in that documentary, David Shantz, because he was involved in that fight. And we're going to talk about that. And that's what we were showing at the beginning, the trailer for the new documentary that's coming out.

Talking about this struggle that you've been involved in very heavily from the very beginning. You're in the trailer there. Seals beat Biden. That documentary. Tell us a little bit about that documentary. And then we'll talk a little bit about what the current status is of these things. So tell us a little bit about the documentary, Davis. Yeah, absolutely.

So Seals Beat Biden was a concept that was developed. It's a relatively new news media outlet called the Republic Sentinel. And they came to me. They came to former Navy SEALs and others and said, hey, we want to tell this story. We want to tell the story of what happened. We want to do it well. We want to honor these people. But we also want to do it in a way that we can prevent things like this from happening and also shine a light on the implications of everything that happened with the COVID mandate on the rights of all American citizens.

So that was sort of what was behind the project. So the Republic Sentinel was fantastic. What's out now currently is part one. It's a three-part series. I'm not exactly sure when the second part is going to be released. It should be released very soon. And then there'll be a final third part that's released as well. So you can follow what's going on at sealsbeatbiden.com. It's free. You just have to give them your email address in order to log in there, but you can set up an account and watch it free. It's very, very well done. And I think some of the most powerful aspects of it are just telling the stories of individuals like Asa Miller,

one of the Navy SEALs I represented in this, talks about what it was like for those guys to go through this, talks about people being put in isolation, being essentially in solitary confinement, what it was like for him. And Ace is in a great position to tell that story because he was one of the Navy SEALs from the very, very beginning that said, I don't believe this is right. I don't believe this is constitutional. We need to take a stand, not just for ourselves, but for everyone in the military that's afraid to speak up because they're not a Navy SEAL and for the American public. And he was willing to be court-martialed. He, he, he and I sat in a room together and I said, if you don't follow this order, you understand what could happen. And he was ready and willing to be court-martialed if that's what

it takes. So I'm so glad that he's able to be in it and tell part of his story. And there's other people that were critically involved in sort of rallying people to this cause and creating not just a rally point, but a way for people to get this information out there and have the courage to take a stand within the military. So it went from isolated individual military members working on this on their own to at one point, I think we've talked about this number before, but even the DOD admitted that there were over 260,000 military members that were not compliant when the mandate came out. Wow. Right? Over 260,000.

That's over 13% of the total military force that were not compliant by the time the mandate came down. And that's the DOD's numbers. So how far we trust that, I'm not sure how far we go on that. But Seals v. Biden is an effort to sort of tell the story of what happened. And then as you get into episode three, I'm told the goal of that episode is really to talk about the future and how we take stands against things like this in the future and learn from what happened. That's excellent. And it all begins with the individuals. And I've seen some articles, there was one I saw the other day, somebody said, there are more people involved in all of this than you think. Just as they want to make everybody think well you're the only one who had a family member die from this shot or you're the only one who got

paralyzed from this shot i know it was happening to everybody they did such a great job of trying to isolate and atomize and you know cover this up with everybody you point out 13 260 000 people even according to their numbers and of course you look at the things that they're doing with the Bureau of Labor Statistics, how they rigged those numbers last week. It's just amazing. But they always rig the numbers. They rig the COVID numbers. They rig the protest numbers and all the rest of this.

But it really did come down to the individual. When you make this stand, each and every one of us is going to have to make that stand as an individual and make that individual decision. And I like the way the documentary trailer started with that vice admiral, I think it was, who said the most important fight he's been in. And it is true because this is a fight for our country, a fight for our constitution, and for everyone's individual rights. And I like the way they came back to him

and he said you got to be willing to throw those stars on the table over the principle and and the sad thing about it that bothers me davis is the fact that they have pushed so many good people like that out of the military i think that's a big part of the agenda what do you think yeah you know and i didn't want to believe that, right? And very early on in this, people started talking about a purge or otherwise. But I was, you know, I was a jag. I was a lawyer in the military. I was a lieutenant colonel.

I submitted my religious accommodation request. I trusted the process. And then it was denied, and it was denied improperly. It was denied for the wrong reasons. And so I had great pause, but I'm like, okay, I'm going to appeal my own religious accommodation. I'm going to help everyone else do it. And I quickly realized from the beginning, they weren't going to be granting these religious accommodation requests. The goal was 100% compliance, no matter what. And then it doesn't take very much imagination to start thinking about, okay, if you have a significant portion, 10, 13, 15, whatever the

real number was, percent of the force that is objecting to not just to being vaccinated, but objecting to the way this is being done and the way it's being forced on the American public and on the military for their moral, ethical, and religious reasons, then you have to realize, wow, who's leaving the military then? It's people that are willing to question orders. It's people that are willing to say, no, I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. I'm not going to turn my back on that. And people don't fully understand the documentary helped tell this story, but I can just rattle off examples of how this policy was in direct violation of constitutional rights and in direct violation of federal law. And they knew

that and they refused to stop. I mean, the best example, and it's almost humorous if it wasn't so serious for so many people, but the Department of Defense Inspector General, the Inspector General's office, supposed to be the watchdog for the Department of Defense, and they work for the man, so you have to wonder how independent they really are. But even they did a cursory review of the religious accommodation process, and they said, Department of Defense, you are not doing this correctly. It is impossible for you to be doing the individualized review that's required by law there are not enough hours in the day days in the week you know weeks in a month in order to do this because you're spending you know they they did a calculation it's like even if you were working 10 hour days with

no breaks you're spending minutes at most on each one of these individual accommodation requests that's not what the law requires the dod DOD IG wrote a memo, sent it to Secretary Austin, the Secretary of Defense, and said, you need to see this because our initial analysis is you're violating the constitutional rights and you may be violating federal law by the way you're doing this. And it was ignored. It was ignored by the Secretary of Defense and no one even knew that that memo existed until it came out through a FOIA request almost two months later. In other words, they were kicking people out, ending people's careers, continuing to do this without even like a

strategic pause to say, okay, Hey, we need to look into this. They simply didn't care. And so that, you know, if there's no other lesson that we can learn from the documentary, from what happened with the COVID mandate in the military, is that we had an executive branch and military leadership. At BetMGM, Ontario's best casino action is just a click away. Play thrilling games like Premium Blackjack Pro, the dazzling MGM Grand Emerald Knights, or try to score a Gretzky goal lucky tap. It's all here at BetMGM. Visit BetMGM.com for terms and conditions. 19 plus to wager.

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with iGaming Ontario. That we're willing to ignore federal law and the constitutional rights of military members to accomplish a goal, which was 100% compliance with an experimental vaccine. Yeah. Yeah. And we had a lot of people who were scientists or people in the medical community, and they

didn't wake up until they're working on it and said, yeah, we got this other thing over here. Maybe this works. Maybe that works. And that happened in many different ways many different places and they were immediately shut down we have one solution and you're going to do this and it's like wait a minute there's something wrong here right and so you're seeing that everywhere but fundamentally what happened to people in the military it's essentially the same thing that we see in private companies or

we see in the hospitals for example uh the government uh bribes people with money and then it says and then you're going to do this or we're going to take that money away and so it ultimately comes back to what that vice admiral said you got to be willing to throw those stars on the table over your principal and that was the same thing that happened to nurses and hospitals you know they they hold your career they hold your livelihood and your lifeline up to you. And you have to make that decision. Am I going to stand by the money and the career or am I going to stand by my principle? And that's why this is a story for everybody inside the military or outside the military.

And a lot of people have gone through this fire. And the good thing about this is they've come out on the other side. And I've talked to so many people who have absolutely no regrets about whether they lost their job. Many of them found something else to do. They're happier about that. The people who have regrets are the ones who had their arm twisted and went along with the coercion. Those are the people I see over and over again who have regrets. Yeah, absolutely. And there's just been tremendous community built out of what happened and you know this idea you were talking about earlier of isolation you know during this whole military

fight there were so many times when someone would call me and they'd be like i'm the only person on my entire installation my chain of command is telling me i'm the only one i'm the last holdout what do i do i'm all alone here and i, nope, you're not alone. I have talked to five other people that are your same installation that are being told the same thing by their command. They're being lied to about that. But just even the idea, and that was part of the whole idea of what the Navy SEALs like Asa Miller did and were willing to do is they were willing to risk their careers in order to get the word out there. Hey, you're not alone. You're not alone. You're not isolated. There is a whole community of people that are taking a stand. And the idea is courage is contagious. And one of the things

I think is a difference, and maybe this is hyperbole, maybe it's not, but people like Asa Miller being willing to take a stand and saying no and not comply is a difference. Other people throughout society that took a stand, restaurant owners, gym owners, doctors, nurses, small businesses, they took these stands. And the fact that they were unwilling to comply, churches as well, is why we didn't have concentration camps like they had in Australia in the United States, right? Because there was not the political will to do that because there was enough people, even though it was a small percentage, saying no and not complying with this government overreach. And so the government didn't have the political ability to carry out as much as they could or would have without that. That's what we need to learn from this.

We need to have communities of people willing to come together, willing to rally at the local level, using the doctrine of lesser magistrates to take these stands. And if nothing else, I think that's a lot of what is hoped to be you know taught and talked about through the documentary yes they're so focused on on speech and controlling our communications with each other because they want to do that isolation thing and you know when you look at the military i think about it how much they they've got to be it's got to be an especially difficult thing for people in the military because they spend so much time trying to create this cohesiveness. You're part of a unit. You know, you're not just an individual out here.

And that was part of what you and others were saying about this. You know, by isolating these people and making them the other, you're really harming that kind of cohesiveness. But I imagine the people who are being ostracized and isolated over all this stuff, they really feel that to a greater degree than somebody who is just working in a civilian job, because in a civilian job, you're not trained to have that kind of a team unit idea. And now you are kind of leaving the team and betraying the team as the way they're portraying it to people, wasn't it? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that was part of the pressure that was put on myself and so many military members.

And when you get down to people like Navy SEALs, the team, the cohesiveness of that team, that small unit tactics, all of that comes together. And it absolutely was, there was a lot of pressure put on individuals to say, well, everybody else is doing it. Just go along, go along, go along. And not everyone else was doing it, which was part of this. But the other thing is, again, you have to understand these individuals, so many were motivated by the fact that they believed this was wrong. And all they did was start asking questions, right? That's all a lot of us did is just ask some questions. And you weren't even

allowed to ask questions. As soon't even allowed to ask questions. As soon as you started to ask questions, then you were, you know, you were faced with tremendous pressure. And, you know, I've seen it over and over and over again, where just the mere fact that you're asking questions has been met with challenges from the military, isolation from the military, and it went past COVID. I'm still trying to fix people who lost their security clearance, not because the mandate was repealed, so they were in good standing with the military again, but because they had written a detailed memo to their commander explaining why they felt it was unlawful to order military members to receive an experimental

medical procedure, a medical product under federal law, why they believe that, then they were being challenged as being disloyal or exercising poor judgment, and they're trying to revoke their security clearances. So most of those cases so far, we've won and we've gotten the security clearance back, but that was sort of like the next level. And again, when you see things like that, you start to say, that really does feel like a purge then. If you're not just saying, oh, you survived the COVID mandate, but now we're coming after your security clearance because you dared say that you think this order might be unlawful, you're not allowed to do that.

That's the exact opposite of the way our military was built and designed and just the DNA of our military. We used to have a military that really focused on the small unit, the platoon, the platoon sergeant, and individual freedom of action within your area of authority, even on the battlefield. We've won battles historically as a nation because it didn't matter if a small unit was cut off from the chain of command or communication, they had the freedom and they were expected to exercise good judgment and carry on the mission even without, you know, a general officer telling them what to do, right? And that was the difference between, you know, the allied military on D-Day and the German military. No one would wake up Hitler to release the tanks on D-Day

or the Germans may have pushed us off the beaches. But again, there was this command structure where they had no freedom of action. That's what we've moved to in our military. So on a very practical level, COVID exposed that punishing commanders and anyone who ask hard questions, that's a dangerous thing. That's something we need to be working hard on in our military as well. We need to go back to a concept that we want free thinkers who, within the structure of the law and the Constitution, feel comfortable doing their job and doing it well. That's what's made us have the best and most powerful military when we've been successful. Oh, yeah. And that's what makes our economy work, not having central planning, not having total centralized control. And yet that is the essence of what they want to do.

Well, you've got a lot of different things that you do there. Your website is Yontz Law. That's Y-O-U-N-T-S Law. You've got a lot of military experience. You help people who are Christians who are being persecuted. People can also follow you on X at Davis, Yontz, Y-O-U-N-T-S again. And tell us a little bit about, we've only got about a minute and a half. Give us a little bit of a commercial

for what you do at Yontz Law. Yeah, so we are focused primarily on representing military members. So we help military members with all kinds of things rising from the level of administrative actions to court martial cases. We have pushed into since COVID a lot more religious freedom issues. So we're able to do that. And we use our experience. I've added another attorney to the firm, Caleb Bird, who is a former senior army prosecutor, who's outstanding on these issues as well. So

that's our goal is really to support military members. We want to be in a position to encourage military members to do the right thing and to help them navigate the process. So that takes us all over the world. And we hope to be able to continue to do that as long as God allows it. And as you pointed out, I mean, there's just no end to this. They're so tenacious. Yesterday I was talking about how Alvin Bragg, Manhattan DA, he's coming after people over COVID stuff still. And so the military is especially, as you pointed out, taking security clearances of other people. They are out to get their revenge against anybody that pushed back against their narrative for centralized control. And it just keeps going. So thank you so much for what you do davis shots

yontzlaw.com and you can also find him on twitter or x at davis yontz thank you so much for what you do sir appreciate it thank you god bless you thank you have a good day all right joining us now is katherine austin fitz always great to talk to katherine and especially want to talk to her as we go into a new year. And she's also got, she's working very hard to try to help people get financial transaction freedom. We're going to talk about what that is. She's got a tour that's coming around Tennessee that's going to be happening there. Catherine, in case you don't know her, she's president of Solari Incorporated, and that's at Solari.com.

That's S-O-L-A-R-I.com. She is a former assistant secretary of housing and federal housing commissioner at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. And the first Bush administration was the president of Hamilton Securities Group. group. And she has designed and closed over $25 billion worth of transactions and investments to date and has led portfolio and investment strategy for $300 billion of financial assets and liabilities. She understands the financial landscape and she is committed to liberty. So joining us now is Catherine Austin Fitz. Thank you for joining us. Thank you, David. And I'm excited because I'm coming. I'm headed to Tennessee this month. And I'm hoping when I come through, I'm spending more time on the eastern side of the state these days.

I'm going to come through and meet you and your team. I'd love to do that. Yeah. Love to do that. And you've got the tour that's coming up. And let's talk about that. But first, we'll lay out what financial transaction freedom is. But let's talk about 2024 and also looking back at 2023. How do

you see the top stories as you were talking off air? You said you have your top stories for the year that you typically cover. What did you see as the top stories for 2023? So we are great believers in open source intelligence. It's hilarious. And every week we pour into our databases, the top headlines. So we're constantly pouring, you know, if you do a search for the David Knight show, you'll find a bunch of stuff. And, and, you know, so we have a new media list and we're pouring in headlines from, you know, all different sources. We get people sending us links all over the world. And then weekly, I do a show called money and marketsets with Titus and we pick out the top 20 stories and talk about those for that week. And then when we get to the quarter and the year, so every quarter, but the last one is the annual wrap up.

We have a team of four people who synthesize all the stories and sit down and say, OK, what are the most what are the most important stories that people, you know, individuals or families need to know to navigate this environment what's important and every time i come into one of those efforts and it takes us about a month to build out to the top 20 stories for the quarter of the year i think well i know what's going on you know i'm on top of it i'm watching the news and yet we go through the process and we realize after we've collected everything different, you know, together, it's like, oh, you know, I didn't realize how big that was or how important. Anyway, this time we normally, our top story is on the financial coup d'etat or the going direct reset. This time, our top story was not only very different,

but typically we put all the top 20 stories on one page. This story was so big and so long, it had to have its own page and the other 19 stories, the second page. And the title is 2023, the year of pushback. Wow. And what I didn't realize, David, until I pulled it all together

in all the different categories, the extent of the pushback. It's almost like 2020 we get whacked. 2021 we realize something's fishy. 2022 we decide to take action and we start. 2023 you see the lawsuits filed. You see the different businesses started or initiatives started. And, you know, there are many different categories.

But what happened is the pushback blossomed. And then if you look at how it's blossoming and who's doing what, what you realize is 2024 is going to be explosive. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. That's going to be explosive. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. That's going to be the case. The question is, it's going to be putting the plunger down. Well, it's funny.

I said, you know, I said when I was talking about it, because we do, you know, we do a recording and it's a mega recording with Dr. Farrell that we'll publish next week with an analysis of all the 20 stories. But I said,

this is like a big game of Texas chicken where the establishment is trying to centralize and the pushback is not only pushing back, but saying, you know something, we're going to do our own race reset. I call it the building wealth reset. You're doing the going direct reset. We're going to do the building wealth reset.

We're going to build wealth, bottom up, family wealth, community wealth. You know, we've had it with you guys destroying and stealing everything. So you got these two cars going together at 60 miles an hour and, you know, the pushback team is looking much stronger than I ever realized until we did this. So I came out of the process so enthusiastic. I think it's going to be a great year. Our quote for the commentary for this year is from a preacher down in Texas. He said, our situation is defined by extraordinary opportunities brilliantly disguised as impossible situations.

That's like the guy who the American general who was surrounded. He goes, that's good news. We can attack them in any direction, right? I guess that's where we are right now you know they've done their best to surround us well you know that's the thing i look at it and i i get frustrated because it seems like there's so many people who don't know there's a lot more people who don't care uh and then even amongst the people who know and care a lot of them don't really know what to do and that's what i like about what you do because you've got some action items to take and and especially focusing on the money part because that is such an important aspect of control you know it is central to the control yeah

yeah yeah so we just have subscribers you know we had these hats called you know that they're orange hats and say make cash great again And people are sending us pictures from all over the world. Here's make cash great again on top of Mount Kilimanjaro. But they're sending us pictures, including of their kids, because they're having their kids. But we get stories from all over the world how people are using cash and sort of dialing back the systems. And it's so inspiring to hear all these stories because not only are they using cash,

but they're beginning to engage with local businesses to talk about, okay, what are we going to do? How are we going to do? You know, they're talking to their banks. They're talking to their credit unions. They're talking to local businesses. And it's almost like they're coming out of the trance and getting ready to transact their way back to freedom.

Good. And it's good. We did a great uh i did a great uh interview in 2022 called where to stash your cash in 2022 and we're going to redo it this month where to stash your cash in 2024 but it's sort of helping you build resiliency in your day-to-day life and we also have a program called building wealth because, you know, as I said, we do need a reset, but we need a reset that rebuilds and builds family wealth and, and family wealth is the basis of community wealth. And, um, you know, the problem with what's going on is we basically have an organized crime operation that's stealing and taking our

wealth. So that's gotta be reversed. So you've got to, you know, push back against them getting financial transaction control, which, and then they get that, David, they will take everything, everything. They will take everything. So, you know, it's slavery or freedom, but we also, when we say, no, we reject your complete control. We have to take responsibility bottom up to build the kind of culture and economy that you know we want our kids and grandkids growing up and that's absolutely true i've said many times i forget who said it i said you can't win a culture war if you don't have a culture we don't have a culture we we have we just sit back and let them feed us a culture and we just kind of watch you

can't right yeah you can't run a financial system just with law and enforcement right you know the enforcement the only productive enforcement comes from a moral culture and institutions that will allow their people and encourage their people to be moral you know it's funny i just did an interview today with a gold company here and i'm in the netherlands right now and they're a wonderful company i've only got i've only done maybe four or five transactions with them but each time totally clean totally professional high speed no monkey business no dirty tricks everything clean it's a whistle everybody down to the drivers you're great it's like boom boom boom boom boom and and and you

think you know this is how it should work. Yes. But they have, if you look at who owns them and how they operate, they're highly moral. And, you know, it's culture that's going to drive that. I don't know if you saw it, but we did this wonderful panel with CHD Tennessee in Rogersville with Senator Nicely and Representative Halsey.

Oh, I have to see that. Oh, it was a hoot. Can I tell you, it was so great. First I did a speech, then we did the panel. If you watch it, just cut to the panel, because Halsey and Nicely are great. But Halsey gives this whole description of how the Constitution came out of, you know,

a culture and a morality. And unless we, you know, a culture and a morality. And unless we, you know, unless we protect and nurture and enforce that culture, nothing good can come from anything. And it's very eloquent. I agree. And it is very important to have people that you trust and everything. That's why we work with Tony Arterburn at Wise Wolf Gold, and he's even set up a website, davidknight.gold.

And we were just talking about that yesterday, how Costco, they sold, what was that, 100 million or 300 million? I don't know what it was, amazing amount of gold. But Walmart is getting in it now. But it's like you want to deal with people that you know. I don't want Walmart knowing what I own. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, you can go down to Walmart and you can buy it with your J.P. Morgan card, you know,

or your Bank of America card. But that kind of defeats a lot of the purpose of that. You say in the foreword to your financial transaction freedom, you have a quote from William Faulkner. It says, we must be free, not because we claim freedom, but because we practice it. I thought that was really profound. You know, we always talk about, well, you know, we've got claim freedom, but because we practice it. I thought that was really profound. You know, we always talk about, well, you know, we've got the Constitution, we've got this and that, you know, well, you know, they had the Declaration of Independence, but they

still had to fight the war, you know, to get that independence. You can't just declare your independence. You've got to make it happen. And that's really what this document is about, the financial transaction freedom. Tell us a little bit about that. Tell us, first of all, give us your definition of that. So there are two big documents in this wrap-up. And the first one, interestingly enough, came from Tennessee.

I was meeting with a group of state legislators and some of the government officials. And there's a wonderful guy who runs the Revenue Department. He's a really smart guy. And he said, would you write a memo for me on financial transaction freedom? What is it? What threatens it? And what can we do to protect it? And, you know, that was a harder job. I got my general counsel and we wrote it. And so let's start with what is financial transaction freedom. Financial

transaction freedom is the ability to trade, you know, to trade money for goods or to, you know, to barter and swap and to do it in a way where one, it's private, two, you have multiple options, three, it's liquid and nobody's stopping or controlling you by controlling your financial transactions. So we all know the story of what happened to the Canadian truckers. That is financial transaction control. Now, what I believe, if you go to Solari

and you, down on the right, there's a panel that says videos on financial transaction freedoms and CBDCs, and it's a list that says videos on financial transaction freedoms and cbdc's and and it's a list of 80 uh 80 short videos that show you what the central bankers are planning on doing including asserting total control of your money oh yeah so that one they can make rules centrally and enforce them centrally with ai and software on all digital systems that control your money. So if they decide they want to raise taxes, they just take it out of your account. If they decide it'll help with inflation, they just freeze your account.

And they describe the deposits in your account as an expression of central bank liability. It's not your money. It's their money. That's number one. Number two, they want to program money. So if they don't want your money working more than five miles from your house, or they don't want you buying pizza

because they think it's not good for you, then your money won't buy pizza. Your digital cards and digital transactions and bank transactions won't work you know if you're more than five miles from your home so it's called programmability anyway so if you look at the first couple videos there's also one of the great videos there is a video from one of the presidents of the one of the 12 fed banks saying i understand why china wants c CBDCs, but why would Americans ever let this happen? You know, I mean, cause you're talking about a slavery system. If they get financial

transaction control and control of the food supply, which is part of what they're up to. And if you look at some of our wrap ups, we've written a lot about that recently as well, cause it's, you know, it's part of the same play um if they get financial transaction control david and they can control your bank account um you know and and institute taxation without representation then they can dictate anything they can dictate what drugs you're going to take they can dictate whether or not you've got to take injections they can dictate where your kids go to school they can dictate that your kids can't live with you anymore they've got to come to you know xyz government boarding school whatever that's right you're talking about a slavery system oh yeah and uh one of the the fourth video in the stack

is richard warner the top central bank expert in the world in my opinion academic expert uh explaining that one of the top central bank heads in Europe told him that it's a chip they're planning on putting in our hands. And we've seen discussions at the World Economic Forum with the head of Nokia and others talking about how we're going to all be chipped. Yeah, for convenience, you know, for convenience. And it really is. For their convenience.

Yeah, yeah. I played the video over and over again that was produced in Ukraine, and they said, well, you know, after we get past this war and we're victorious, 2030 is just going to be great. You know, any interaction that you have with other people, but especially all the different things that you're required to do with government, we'll just make that so convenient because we'll have a CBDC and everything that you have will be on your phone and so forth.

And it's like, wow wow this is totally comprehensive but as you pointed out they're going to be able with the programmability uh make your money invalid if you're not in the correct area it's all about enslaving and imprisoning this right you know yeah right so when the world economic forum says it's 20 30 and you have no assets the question is how do they strip you of all your assets how do they strip you of your property rights how do they strip you of your assets and the way you do it is if you can get total financial transaction control then you can strip people of all their assets you just turn off their money that's right yeah we already saw a little bit of this you know you mentioned the freedom convoy that was a big wake up for everybody

because now it's no longer a conspiracy theory it's a conspiracy reality they've already done it and uh and then we saw you know in january the 6th we saw bank of america you know creating a list of here's all the people that had financial transactions within this area uh on january the 6th and oh no by the way here's our records of all the people who used our credit card to buy guns. You want to put those together, FBI? So we know how they're going to use this. It's very sinister. And when you look at it, it's almost as if, you know,

the Bank of America was asking them, would you like us to confiscate their money and lock up their accounts? Right. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, it truly is amazing. So, you know, when we look at it, there's some other things on it as well. I'm looking at the memo, and there's a downloadable PDF that you have at Solari.com.

Right, so if you come into Solari, it just says Financial Transaction Freedom Memo, and we have it in PDF, and you can download it. We sell hard copies for free, or we put it in the wrap-up. You can buy that if you're a subscriber, but just download it for free, print it out. Make as many copies as you want. Spread everywhere and and so you you define what you just define what financial freedom is you're going to have multiple different ways outside of their system a lot of different options and things like that privacy um and uh no surveillance and that type of thing but then you also have action items because I've talked for the longest time about CBDC. Go ahead, tell us about the action items. The next step, well,

to understand action items, you have to understand what threatens financial transaction freedom, because it's not just central bank controls and CBDCs and digital IDs. It's also power outages, okay? It's cybersecurity attacks. There are all sorts of other things. You know, when the cyclones hit in New Zealand, the governor of the central bank there gave a press conference afterwards, and he said, thank God for cash. If we hadn't had cash, we would have been, and I, you know, I'll turn to John Titus that week, and I said, I guess he didn't get the memo.

But remember when there was that huge power outage in Kentucky? Oh, yeah. For weeks. Yeah. If you didn't have cash, you were in real trouble. Okay, so there are multiple things that can compromise. Because what we're talking about doing is not allowing digital systems to get control. Yes.

And that's why we always say to people, the first thing you can do is to roll back digital systems. Stop being so dependent on digital systems. You want to have analog alternatives and you want to be resilient in the face of real hiccups with digital systems, whether it's a power outage, whether it's government sanctions, whether it's central bank intervention, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But, you know, build that resiliency into your life. There are many ways you can do it. So the first thing we talk about is using cash and starting to engage with local businesses, particularly your farmers and your farmer markets, fresh food, because

the most important thing you need to do in this environment is you need a good, strong, clear brain and healthy body. And that starts with good, healthy fresh food. And as we know, there's terrible deterioration in the quality of the food. So, you know, line up your food locally. The second thing you can do is bring transparency. We have a wonderful post. We link to it from that memo called I want to stop CBDCs. What can I do? And it lists 11 things you can do. But one of the things you can do is tell your family and friends. So we have these 11, or we have a link to these CBDC shorts

and they're one minute, you know, the first three are one minute each and the fourth one is two and a half minutes, really short. And in those three one minute videos, they will scare you to death. And I defy anybody to think they don't need to take action once they see those

you know so you don't need to read a lot of books or watch a lot of long videos we you know in in three one minute videos we can communicate to you why you got to do something about this that's great um another thing people can do that is exceptionally important is talk to your financial service providers talk to your cpa talk to your attorney talk to your bank talk to your financial service providers, talk to your CPA, talk to your attorney, talk to your bank, talk to all these people and get them realizing that they've got to push back. If the state, if the state banking associations start to push back and protect people from transaction control, you know, and, and compromise of their financial transaction freedom, they can

have a huge impact. And they should do that because if you look at what the central bankers are up to, they intend to consolidate the banking system. They're rolling out, the Fed is rolling out the fast payment system. We saw what they did to a group of banks last week. They're going to consolidate the banking system, which is going to be terrible for the small business economy and terrible bottom up for the health of the economy and family wealth. So get, you know, get your banks, get your investment advisors, get your CPAs, get your lawyers, get all your financial professionals lined up and educated, you know, bring transparency and get them on board. The next thing you need to do is there are, you know, there are 10 plus states in this country that have legislative agendas that are filing and knocking through bills that are going to protect the financial transaction freedom of the people in those states.

You know, you and I are in Tennessee and Tennessee is absolutely leading the way. It's one of those states and they're working on, you know, sovereign payment systems or banks. They're working on bullion depositories in a way for citizens to store their gold and silver, but transact their gold and silver within the state in a way that protects, absolutely protects financial transaction freedom and voting gold and silver to be legal tender. So we can't get locked into a CBDC system where we don't have legal tender unless we use CBDCs. They've already taken, in many states in Tennessee, the sales tax off. Part of that legal tender bill is to make sure gold and silver are protected from capital gain stacks. They're doing moves to protect and build analog payment systems. So again, that you can have your digital systems shut down or controlled from out of state.

They are now bringing nullification laws. I'm sure you've talked about that. Changing the definition of money so it can't be um you know cbdc's can't be included in uh in the definition of money um nullification bills i mentioned nullification already nullification bills to make sure that constitutional any law that's unconstitutional under both the federal constitution or the state constitution is included. And then.

Yeah. Let me interject there. Last time I talked to a Senator nicely, we were talking about this pistol brace thing and he goes, Oh, we've already got taken care of. You know, we pass this nullification thing saying that if the federal law conflicts

with the Tennessee law and he said, and then we passed a, they can't do it. They can't enforce it. And he said, and then we passed a law to make pistol braces legal so they're on top of it they really really are on top of it and you're talking about educating uh the the banks and you know your cpa and anybody that you deal with financially and and it's a really last time i talked to him he was saying it was difficult to get this the local banks to understand that a state bank was going to help them, like it did in North Dakota, where they have a lot more local banks than any other state, and they have worked to help them. And he goes, but you talk about a state bank, and they think it's some kind of competition.

So he came up with the idea of calling it a Tennessee Reserve System. And he said, then they understand. And he's really brilliant at that, isn't he? Yeah. I think Senator nicely, you know, our,

our, our team at Solari, our number one goal this year is to support financial transaction freedom because we want to be free. And if we don't get financial transaction freedom, we won't be free. And, and for us to be free, we need everybody to be free. And I look don't get financial transaction freedom, we won't be free. And for us to be free, we need everybody to be free. And I look around and I say, who are the most astute politicians

who can understand and move this kind of, you know, build this infrastructure, you know, one bill at a time, because it's going to take many, many bills and quite an education. And I think Senator Nicely is the most effective politician I have ever known or dealt with. Washington, state politicians, global here and here. I've never met a more effective politician in my life. Oh, I agree. I absolutely agree. And so, you know, we're talking about this. You've got to see this panel on Rogerville because he also happens to be one of the funniest people alive.

Yeah, he's got a great sense of humor. At one point he was talking about his, you know, I said to him, Senator Nicely, you know, I hold you personally responsible for the traffic problems in Tennessee because for the last 10 to 12 years you keep lowering taxes. And he said, yeah, my wife says, you know, he's married to a Texan. He says, my wife says if we lower taxes anymore, he said, everybody's going to move in here. And it's my fault that we have all these Yankees and Californians moved in. But I tell my wife, this is, you got to watch it. It's so funny. He says, I tell my wife, he said, you know, I don't mind the Yankees moving in because one thing we know about Yankees, they will fight.

And we learned that the hard way. He really does know his history. That's the other thing that's very interesting about Serna Nicely. But, you know, you were talking about the pushbacks. And one of the things that you mentioned when you were talking about pushbacks was, and you touched on it just now, definition of money and ucc's and uh you mentioned that south carolina had done that i know that south carolina moved to florida and so how many have changed the definition of money to say it's not going to be cbdc but it's going to be but we are going to allow this and that as a definition yeah i don't know how many i know florida's done

it i know south carolina has done it um we have a team that's trying to collect and identify who who has done all you know in 15 different legislative categories who has done what in terms of a state bank a sovereign billion depository whatever so as we as we do that we find more states i will say this one of the things i would like to have more capacity in is understanding how to protect states through the UCC, because a lot of the monkey business happens through the UCC, the Uniform Commercial Code. So if there are UCC attorneys out there who are willing to help, please, you know, this is a call for help. Because the UCC is, you know, it's, it's, it's state by state, but it's highly complicated as you know, David. And I think, you know, a lot of the, a lot of the games are happening inside the UCC. Well, you know, I remember when I first

heard about that in conjunction with the CBDC, it was Christine Ohm in South Dakota who said, you know, they, this thing came across and we vetoed it, but be aware that there's more than 20 some odd states that have had that pushed out. And the next thing I saw was that DeSantis went the opposite direction. What they were pushing out was legislation to say that CBDCs would have to be accepted as money. DeSantis went the other way and said they will not be accepted as money,

but we will accept Bitcoin and cash and all the rest of this stuff that we currently have. And so now South Carolina has done that as well. That's good news. There's so many different ways that we can push back on this. And again, to point back, you know, there's a lot of pushback lawsuits against the companies because of damage and things like that. It is a constant struggle. And it's really hard to try to keep to get a sense of whether people are waking up. I got to the point where I just thought nobody's ever going to wake up in 2020. A tremendous number of people are waking up. If you look at the pushback, I'll tell you one of the greatest pushback sort of clusters

is the state AGs and treasurers. The treasurers are pushing back like crazy against ESG. We just had the treasurer of Utah write a letter to the SEC to try and stop or delay the proposed comment rule ending on natural asset companies, which is another, you know, talk about real trouble coming anyway. But the pushback by the state AGs, you know, so Missouri versus Biden is a great example of litigation filed by Louisiana and Missouri. You know, but the

state AGs and the treasurers are on the move and they're teaming up. So if you look at the filing of the Utah treasurer at the SEC, his letter was signed by himself and 23 other treasurers so you know they're teaming up groups of AG's and groups of treasurers that Larry Fink and BlackRock have had to roll back their whole ESG initiative because so many treasurers have pulled money or I think one now I think Tennessee is sued I don't know if it's the treasurer. Somebody in Tennessee has sued the agency.

I think it's Scermetti, the attorney general. It could be the agency. He said it is fraudulent because you're telling people that they're making an investment, so therefore you're going to be trying to do things that are exercise care, fiduciary care, the financial side. But you're completely ignoring the financial side, and you've got your own agenda over here well but there's something else black rock black rock is making huge fees off the state pension funds and if you look at the hypocrisy of what larry fink is saying it's it's extraordinary i did a wrap-up in 2019 called can esg turn the red button green and basically what i was describing was all the hypocrisy in the system.

Because they're using it to enforce central control as opposed to enforce real standards that improve, in my opinion, the governance of society. So Larry Fink has gotten called out on his hypocrisy. That's great that it's the treasurers who are coming out and saying, we're going to move our investments away from them, putting financial pressure on them. And then you've got some attorneys general who are saying, well, this is fraudulent, and we're going to sue them because they've told people that their company is about this, but it's actually about this other thing. Well, here's the thing.

At the very heart of the pushback in all these different forms, what you're seeing is people on the ground who want to be productive. You know, people want to go to work and do a good job without having to, you know, share bathrooms with the other sex and get into that conversation. They want to go back without, you know, they want to be free to say something without being fired for, you know, offending hate crime. All this stuff is destroying productivity and they've had it. So, so what they're saying is we, you know, so if I'm a treasurer, I'm looking across the state and saying the guys in Washington and Wall Street and Basel, Switzerland, are using climate change as a ruse to shut down our businesses, take control of our markets, and steal our money.

Yes. Why should I finance them doing that? Yes. Because they're not doing what they say they're doing. They're just using this to assert central control. You know, just like during the pandemic, you shut down 10 small businesses, you leave Costco in the same

shopping mall open. And, you know, on the theory that the magic virus only operates in small business, but it doesn't operate in large publicly traded stocks and you scarf and steal the market share from the small businesses had nothing to do with health. It had to do with shifting significant market share out of locally owned and controlled businesses into publicly traded stocks, you know, and in a way that made Larry Fink a lot of money. Okay?

And it's a scam. Yeah. That made me so angry when that was happening because I had lived that with my wife and I. We had a video store business back in the early 90s and we had a hurricane that came through and took power out for several days. And we finally got it back in one area. We opened up that store, and then the police came by and said, you've got to shut your store down.

And I said, well, Walmart is open right across the street. You've got to shut your business down because you're attracting people to come out and drive around. They shouldn't be out driving around now. And it's like, well, who are you to make that decision, number one? And number two, you're telling me essentially what Trump said. You're not essential. You know, Walmart is essential, but you closed down because you're a small business. No, they want, you know, basically it's the big guys stealing market share from the little guys.

Yeah, that's right. It's very simple. That's right. It's a steal. It's called a taking. Yes, yes. Right. And it's, you know, hurting Main Street in order to help Wall Street, the big companies that are essential.

And so when I saw that, I'd already lived that for just a couple of days. And it made me so angry to see that they were going to be putting people out of business who had poured their sweat and energy and capital into this and worked it for years just to be told that they're non-essential. I still get angry when i think about that but but talk about some of the other things here's here's yeah but here's what happened in 2023 in 2021 people agreed to play along with that or 2020 because they thought the government had a legitimate reason once you understand that this is just a mafia trying to steal your business, that's when you say, oh, two people can play this game. So you, the municipality, you're going to shut me down? Great. I'm going to audit your books. I'm going to get all your

financial disclosure, and I'm going to dig into your money, and I'm going to dig into the money of everybody on the city council. By the time I'm through, y'all are going to be gone. So we have a wonderful woman who works for us in Tennessee. She was in Knoxville. She tried to get the mask mandate canceled and couldn't do it. And so she went in and figured out the committee, you know, in government that was deciding this. She figured out how they were formed and she got the committee canceled and they canceled you know there was no mass mandate because the committee that was supposed to implement it was gone that's great and that's what really needs to happen

because and that's the thing that concerns me is that you know we're not in so many cases we have seen people who are just oh i'm so glad that this isn't happening again they realize it was a fraud they don't want to play along with it but now now that it's ended, as you point out, everybody just wants to get on with their life, right? Instead of going back and rooting this out. They want to be productive. They want to build family wealth. And that's why you have to give them ways of pushing back that they can push back in

a way that helps them build family wealth. So what we're saying is make yourself more resilient, make yourself more successful, lower your dependency. Every time you pull money and market share out of the companies that are doing this, you know, and the support the politicians who are doing this, you make yourself more powerful, you make yourself stronger and they get weaker. So it's like, it's like having a tapeworm. You know, What we're saying is detox the tapeworm to make yourself stronger. And anytime you can do anything that lowers your dependency on their systems like using cash. I mean, using cash is really

can save you a lot of money. I mean, we've proven again and again, if people use cash, they spend less, they're more careful, they think through their purchase decisions. But you can also build up incredibly great relationships with your local business in the process of transacting with them. It's a much more intimate way of transacting. And you find all sorts of opportunities when that conversation gets going. So people are busy, and this is an exhausting environment in many ways because of the compliance and rules. And people don't like to fight and add friction because that doesn't get them anywhere a lot of times. You know, they see a lot of people fighting in ways that aren't effective.

They don't want to be a part of that. So you need to give them ways of pushing back which help to build their strength and power and wealth i go back the most important one is they have to be healthy and that means you know if if i encourage anyone to invest time in in building wealth step one is getting the knowledge you need to take responsibility for your own health and making sure you're getting clean water and nutritious food and you are not get poisoned you know because we are in the middle particularly in america the great poisoning oh yeah and people are getting sick from being poisoned and they need to understand what the process is and how to

protect themselves and their family and if if people are really good at protecting themselves from the great poison, David, they have 10 times more energy. That's right. So step number one is get yourself off the poison treadmill. And when you look at it, it's going to cost you more to get this other food, right? But not if you compare that to what's going to happen if you get sick and you got to engage with the health care system right that just blows away you can buy organic food all day forever before you have your first hospital bill they're going to really fleece you talk about destroying you financially that's what happens with the hospital system so if you can stay out of that and clean food you're way ahead of the game, even financially, not alone in terms of enjoying the health.

Absolutely. Our annual wrap-up last year was called Pharma Food, and it was on synthetic food and lab-grown meat. And it was the hardest thing I've ever had to read. We hired this wonderful Dutch journalist, Elsevang Hamlin, to write it, and she did an incredible job. And when she came back with it it's the first time in my life i couldn't read a draft the whole way through because it's so evil if you see the the hundreds of billions of dollars they're throwing at making 30 hamburgers that are you know created with 3d printing is it's so horrible you can't imagine that they want anybody to eat this

you know and nobody's going to eat it without financial transaction control because they're going to mandate the only food you're allowed to buy are sort of bugs and synthetic meat. Yeah. So, anyway, we published it. And I thought, David, it would be the least popular wrap-up that we ever published because it's so horrible and gruesome. We published it, and it's brilliant. It really warrants you about what these guys are up to and why you can't allow financial transaction to control happen, because this is the food they're going to try and feed you. And anyway, we published it, and it was hugely popular and successful

because all the fresh food people used it to market. Yeah. You know, all the people in the farmer's market are like, you know, here's what they're going to do if you don't support us. And I had one subscriber write in this one, you know, we get these great emails and they said, you know, I have tried and tried and tried to get my husband to buy from the local farmers and farmer's market and really develop our fresh food supply locally.

And he says, it's too hard work and it's too much money. I gave him pharma food. He said, I am all in. Well, that's a shame. You know, it's great that you got that. It was really a shame. After we moved here, we finally found a local farm that was doing a clean local food and everything.

And, you know, we could get raw milk as a membership club and things like that. Oh, wonderful. And we only did that for a couple of months. And then they said, we just got to close. We can't keep it going. There's not enough demand. And that's the key thing. It really, it was so sad.

So now we're looking again, you know, but it is so sad to see how difficult it is for them to maintain that. But how important it is. I don't know if Edible Communities has a magazine for your area. Look at the Edible Communities. It's a franchise of local food magazines all over the country. And I thought I knew every fresh food farmer in my area until I got the Edible Communities magazine for Memphis. And I found so many great sources after i got it so i would check

that out and of course check out the western price club where you are because they're western price chapters all over the world and um and they have the greatest networks into knowing what the great food is in your area and they're the ones who've led the campaign on raw milk and raw milk is one of the great success stories because we're now up to 46 states you know where there is a pathway to buying raw milk and that is extraordinary and it's been the rest and price guys who really did that oh that's excellent so yeah and of course the other part of this and thomas massey has been involved in this and i've reported he is my hero yeah i've talked about massey was hero of the week three times on the Salary Report in 2023.

Yeah, he's by far and away the best U.S. congressman that's out there. Absolutely, hands down. But he's focused on this whole thing about the fact, and a particular Amish farmer, as a matter of fact, there's an update that just happened. This guy that's been harassed by the USDA because he to butcher the the meat there on the farm and do it cleanly i'm sure i can't remember the guy's name but i'm sure you you know the case yeah i come back and hit him again because it's very important for them that you've got to go to their centrally controlled meat processing water houses yeah exactly right and that's and it's much safer a good a good local operation on the farm is much safer so uh you know so massey has the uh what's

the name of his the primact yes so we've been supporting for several years trying to get the primact passed and um you know it's funny one of the things i do uh you know it started with ron paul but then it went to massey whenever i'm depressed you know i'm just thinking oh god it's you know i'm fighting with i call the's you know i'm fighting with i call the force to nothing i'm fighting with the nothing you know i have to do something to make myself feel good and i'll send us a donation to massey it's like okay i'll put fuel in the leader's pocket and i'll i'll feel better he's a good guy he's a guy and he stands like ron paul he stands alone if he has to uh what is it

in the water in kentucky that we you know we get the because ron paul's in kentucky massey's in kentucky yeah he uh he definitely stood up and he stood up against that trillions of dollars that trump wanted to put in trump wanted to get him out but he didn't get him out so that's good i think the people my favorite if you go to salarian do do a search for Massey, you'll pull this up. One of the heroes of the week was Massey absolutely slaughtering that idiot from Texas. You know, not many idiots come from Texas, but this one is the secretary of transportation on electric cars because Massey is an MIT engineer. Yes. You know, and he knows the whole the whole you know electric

cars are mathematically entered you know the the math of the energy the math of the environment the math of the economics they're absolutely insane they make no sense whatsoever yeah it only makes sense in the scientific term if your degree is in political science. And that's what he also did to John Kerry. If you want total control, so if you want to be able to turn off people's cars, so if I lock you down, you can't go more than five miles from your home, your car will turn off and it won't work more than five miles from your home. I know exactly what, it's about digital concentration camps. Yes.

Right? That's true. Yeah, he had john carry on and he was debating john carey and he pointed out he says so you got a science degree well yeah he goes political science right that's what it was john carey's got a political science degree because there isn't any you know there isn't any science between these i call them mcguffins which is what hitchcock called them you know it doesn't really matter what it is it It could be the Maltese Falcon or it could be something else. But it's whatever motivates the people to do this.

So it could be the virus or it could be the climate. But they've always got the same solution, which is you've got to get an ID and you've got to put them in charge and beg them permission for everything. But it doesn't matter what the MacGuffin is. It's interchangeable. Just whatever you use to motivate the people. It seems like it always comes back. So when I became Assistant Secretary of Housing, the Secretary wanted to do a big housing bill. You know, he wanted a big accomplishment.

He wanted a big housing bill. So the goal was, how do we get the Democrats on board for, and we got Jim Rousey around Fannie Mae. I'm sorry, Jim Rousey ran the Enterprise Foundation and David Maxwell ran Fannie Mae. They had done a big commission on housing that proposed a lot of decentralization. They were both big Democrats. So we got David and Jim to come in, wonderful men. And Kemp, the secretary, is trying to persuade him into a new housing bill. And a lot of what Kemp was proposing was more centralization and um and david and jim were you know they're wonderful people very big hearts and they and they were saying well you know

jack you're a republican republicans believe in decentralization and we propose a lot of decentralization and you know so we think you should, you know, you would like what we're proposing. And, uh, and there was, he had these two little assistants from the heritage foundation who were truly frightening. And one of them said, so Jack is proposing more centralization. The Democrats are proposing decentralization, which is supposed to be the opposite of their, their ideologies.

So they said, you know, don't, don't you want to decentralize? Why would you want to centralize? And one of the special assistants bursted out. He says, yeah, but we're here now. That's it. That's it. We're here now. Yeah.

That's why they never changed anything. Bring the blood to the empire headquarters. Bring the blood to the empire. More extraction, more extraction. Yeah. That's why I had to leave Washington. That's why I moved to Tennessee. I was like, you know, you can't decentralize from Washington.

That's right. That's right. Right. You've got to nullify it. You've got to have some things at the local level. So you've talked about some of these things. Sovereign state bank. I'm looking at your list here.

Actions that can be taken to secure financial freedom. And so you start out with state and local government, but then you talk about having some local organizations to try to help this. Maybe because we don't want to all be in, you can't get too much done on your own. So you've got three different sections. There's state and local. You've got what you can do with small associations and then things that you can do as an individual. It's a great. Right. And what you can do as an individual it's a great right and what you can do as an investor i do want to mention the second memo in the document in the financial the future financial freedom wrap-up is our sovereign state bank memo by richard werner outstanding and explains to you why you do not want to let the central bankers consolidate the small banks you do not want that to happen and the pandemic was you know was hard on the small banks. You do not want that to happen. And the pandemic was hard on the small banks.

And we want a strong small banking. And it explains why the health of the economy and the small business economy in Main Street depend on lots of healthy small banks. And so one of the most important things, and this is what Frank understands, and I don't think that the banking associations understand yet, they don't understand what a threat cbdc and digital id and fast payment systems are and and

you know i want to stress again what we're trying to get is financial transaction freedom it cbdc's is not the only problem fast payment systems and what they can do with credit cards and banking accounts without cbdc's you know that kind of control is a real problem. It's a real problem now. So as we saw with the Tennessee truckers. So anyway, so thiss or the central banks being able to shut them down and to afford that protection to the local banks and the local citizens. You want financial liquidity that the feds can't kill. That's right. That's right. Right. And right now we have, as you're well aware, we look at the situation and how the deficit has exploded.

I talked about that earlier um you know we were at only about 10 trillion dollars um about 15 years ago now it's exploded up to 34 trillion dollars but i'm sure that's just the tip of the iceberg as i point out there's all these other things in terms of obligations that the federal government has and so there's this massive system that is really not sustainable and corrupt. And so what happens as we start to see, it's also another thing that's happened is the deficit is going up. And as we're using the dollar as a weapon,

fewer and fewer people are using abroad or getting off of the dollar as a reserve currency. What are going to be the implications if that continues and accelerates? What's going to be the implications? Higher prices, higher the implications higher prices higher prices higher prices so so as the squeeze comes on the value you know basically the reason everybody's been going along with the crime is the you know the criminals have been sharing you know crumbs with us yeah so if you talk to a state legislator, why can't we establish, you know, so Tennessee's considering rejecting federal education aid. You know, there's an addiction to the money.

So the central banks print money and use that money to buy us, even though that drives up inflation. So at the end of the day, we don't end up better off, but you know, we have this addiction to getting federal money. So we're on the dole. And as we stay on the dole, our economies get weaker and weaker and weaker, you know, and we become more and more dependent on that dole. So there is a financial addiction going on to central bank printed money. And that is going to, the question is, when is the pain great

enough that we're willing to walk away from that money? Now, as they share less and less, you know, crumbs and prices go up and up from this sort of inflation game, you know, when are people going to realize we are better off creating the conditions of sovereignty, rejecting that money. And what I will tell you, David, is, you know, in the 90s at Hamilton Securities, I did a lot of simulation of what we could do if we took government money and we re-engineered it to optimize economic health as opposed to central control. Yeah, that's right. And if, you know, it's going to be a rough transition because we've delayed it for so long.

But if we go through that transition, we can build a much more moral and productive society. Oh, I agree. I agree. Yeah. Yeah, that's always been the case. And it's been difficult. I've had this frustrating thing. I feel like I'm banging my head against the wall when I talk to people about what happened in 2020.

They say, well, Trump didn't do it. And I said, no, you understand it's the money, right? That's how they get around the 10th Amendment. They bribe people. They get you addicted to the money. And then they pull it back and say, well, now I'm going to blackmail you. If we look at what happened with Trump, you know, he's out there, his administration, they're giving a 20% bonus.

If you identify somebody as COVID, they're giving you a bonus to diagnose them, $13,000, $39,000. You put them on a ventilator, 20% on everything that you do. And then when Biden comes in and now that they've gotten used to this money, he says, well, if you don't get everybody in the hospital vaccinated, I'm going to not give you any Medicare or Medicaid. I'm going to shut everything off. That's the way it always works.

Going back into the 90s. But I'm going to be tough on Trump because he swung $10 billion of taxpayers' money into a military program that completely bypassed all the safety things that are implicit in health care law to poison millions of Americans. That's right. Yeah, he's the poisoner-in-chief, absolutely no doubt about it. Exactly. And it was a military operation. It was a military operation, and he put $10 billion behind it, and he appointed to run it a man who was a military operation. It was a military operation, and he put $10 billion behind it, and he appointed to run it a man who was a brain-machine interface expert from GlaxoSmithKline.

And they've been practicing this since two months before 9-11. They've had their annual germ game thing, and it's coming from DARPA. So, of course, they're going to have the warp speed thing be a military thing yeah it's really difficult to get people to understand that and sometimes I explain you know when I was when we were doing homeschooling of our kids we're now grown I know that there were a lot of people in the homeschool facility community that wanted to say well let's have let's let's fight to get our kids in into the programs and the band programs and things like that. And I said, you know, there's going to be strings attached to all that money and all those benefits that you're fighting for. They're going to use that to blackmail you.

And that's exactly what they do. They get around the 10th Amendment by offering people money, getting them addicted to the money, and then say, okay, now put the boys in the girls' bathroom or we'll take the money away. It always works out that way. Really. So one of my favorite quotes is from Franklin Sanders, who's that wonderful, I don't know if you've had Franklin on these wonderful precious metals dealer and pastor in Middle Tennessee.

He always says, all government money comes with a sock in the jaw. That's a good way to put it. Well, tell us a little bit about the tour, because we're about out of time. It's going to be, you're going to have several minutes in different places. So I'm coming down to Tennessee. I should be there by the 23rd, and then I'm heading over to Middle Tennessee.

I got a lot of meetings in Nashville and some of the surrounding states. I'm going to drop down to Mississippi and Alabama. A lot of the states around Tennessee are talking about doing the same things and talking about how they network together. Yes. That's a key thing, too. Having a network of states. That's one of the things Senator Nicely has talked about.

You've got to get several states together. A network of states is, you know, I don't want to call it the Confederacy. Well, technically it would be, I guess, but now you're talking about something that's much more bottom up where the states cooperate and coordinate, you know, deal by deal transactions. So you, so you have a, you know, so you, so you have relationships where you're helping each other do a better job, go faster. And they're, you know, given the different strengths of the different states, there's so much that can be done to cooperate between those states that will really help advantage each other. That's right.

So, you know, I think it's pretty exciting. And if you look at the, you know, we have an extraordinary number of very capable and talented state legislators who have been, you know, they haven't gone up to the federal level. They haven't become senators or congressmen because they're too clean. Yeah, yeah, exactly. They're too clean, but they're very, very competent and they're very capable. And it's taken a while for them to realize, oh, I'm more competent to engineer this than, you know, all these hotshots. You know, they've got a control file.

They're on a leash. I can do this. I keep telling everybody that's what's important is the state and local races. It's far more important. You have far more leverage than you do with Washington. I'm telling you to spend almost all your time and money this year on your state and local races. That's right. Don't worry about the federal election because this will be decided.

And if you're in a state where there's not going to be financial transaction freedom and you can move, you may want to get your... And I don't want to say that because the traffic problem in Tennessee is really bad. Well, think about what happened in 2020, and that's where you can see that where the rubber meets the road is at the local level. So your schedule is going to be there as to when you have this at Solaria.com. I'm coming at the end of January, and I'll be over. I'll be in Hickory Valley for the first week or two, and then I'll move over to Shelbyville and be going up spending a lot of time in Nashville and then I'll I'll be networking around the state for lots of meetings and then head up to New England for the uh the end of February I'll be there for a week and then come back to Tennessee but I'll also be going we'll be going around the country and we'll at some point we'll put up our

schedule by the end of the month so people people will know where we're going. We're really responding to clusters of people, particularly Salary Report subscribers, who want to meet up. And it's great because when, you know, one of the things that happens, and this is one of the reasons I want to do this, is we have these wonderful subscribers. And they're in a place and they say, there are no like-minded people around. And I'll look at our database and I'll say, look, there are a ton of like-minded people around because they're all subscribing to this leaderboard. So we'll go there and meet up and then everybody meets. And it's so amazing to watch it, David, because literally you can be in some of these meetings and within an hour they look like they've known each other for 20 years.

It's so fabulous. That's great. Anyway, so we're going to try and do a lot of meetups and make sure people can find each other in their local areas. Good. So people check salari.com and see your schedule as it gets finalized because you're still building that. So that's great. Looking forward to seeing you at one of these and I'll be checking the site to see where that's going to be coming. Thank you so much for joining us. Catherine Austin fits.

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And so thank you for joining us, Aaron Day. Appreciate it. Thank you for having me. And we were talking off air and I wanted my first question was going to be, you said you have suspended your campaign now. But my first question was going to be, what was your take on how some of the candidates have talked about this issue? Of course, we had had DeSantis talk about it, we had Ramaswamy talk about it, and we've had Trump recently talk about it. Tell people your take on this and tell people your story about what happened after you suspended your campaign.

Sure. Well, I ran for president specifically to bring this issue up. In fact, my goal in running as a Republican was to try to get into the debates so that I could elevate this issue on the national stage. Little did I know that the debates were going to turn out to be, you know, meaningless. People wouldn't watch them and they were going to be structured in such a way where you couldn't even talk about issues like CBDC or anything that happened with COVID. But in the process, I did chat with many of the other candidates. And in fact, I've given copies of my book to several of the candidates. Uh, the, the most, uh, interesting one was with Vabek.

He actually read my book and we discussed it. I gave him a copy of my book in June and I actually have interacted with him on a number of different occasions. And so when he dropped out and endorsed Trump, one of the first things that happened was he had consulted with Trump on the CBDC position. And so Trump came out in New Hampshire, in Portsmouth, actually, which I'm in New Hampshire. That's where I live. He came out and adopted an anti-CBDC stance. So I was grateful for that. And I hope that in a way, my book and my conversations with Vivek actually helped push that issue and put a sense of urgency around it. And the other

candidates, as you mentioned, DeSantis has been anti-CBDC. RFK Jr. has been anti-CBDC. Haley has not spoken about it, although based on her idea of you should need a digital ID in order to access the internet, I'm guessing she's going to be on the wrong side. I think she would say, if you're going to buy something, I want to know your name, because she wants to know your name if you're going to get on the internet. So yeah, I think. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But part of the conclusion of my book is that I believe there's a greater than

50% chance that we're going to have a CBDC implemented before the 2024 election. And so a big part of what I'm doing in this book and in doing workshops across the country is trying to educate people on what they can do outside of voting, which is to exit the dollar and move into self-custody crypto gold and silver and start using it in a parallel economy. And part of what happened is as traveling around the country, I spoke with Senator Ted Cruz, who is the leading opponent of CBDC in the US Senate. He put a bill out there to try to stop CBDCs and halt CBDCs, and it failed. And he said flat out, there aren't the votes in the United States Senate to stop CBDCs based on the way that

the Senate is currently. Isn't that amazing that they won't vote for it? You know, I saw that Tom Emmer, who's the house whip, you know, he came out in opposition to CBDC right about the same time as DeSantis did. And I thought, well, that's good. And that's interesting. Where is he coming from? And then I realized that he's got a lot of ties to cryptocurrency. And of course, there is this, you know, the pushers of CBDC like Liz Warren and Biden,

all the rest of them, they want to shut down the competition from cryptocurrency, obviously. And so I kind of got the sense that Tom Emmer was talking about CBDC in order to defend the people that he's allied with in the crypto industry before whatever his motivations were. I thought it was good that it was happening uh but isn't it isn't it depressingly strange that uh nobody in the senate will support something that has the ability to turn us into the worst dystopian novel that anybody has ever imagined worse than anything people have imagined in the past well well it's strange and it's really discouraging because one of the things that ted said was that uh he thinks that there's a reasonable shot that elizabeth warren becomes the chair of the things that Ted said was that he thinks that there's a reasonable shot that Elizabeth Warren becomes the chair of the Finance Committee in 2024, depending upon the outcome of the election. And in fact, Cruz himself is only ahead by two points in Texas.

And so there's been a lot of discussion about the amount of money Soros is putting into Texas and everything else. So Cruz is actually, believe it or not, on the hot seat there again after his challenge from Beto last time around. So yeah, he said absolutely. So there really aren't the votes. Preston Pyshko, CFP®, I mean, Cynthia Lumis has been one in the Senate who's also been pro-crypto. But I'll tell you what I think is going to happen is we're going to have a situation that is going to gain bipartisan support for pushing a CBDC. And that's going to be around terrorism and money laundering. And you're already starting to see the discussion around that. And that is an issue. So let's say now that Biden has decided we're going to begin our military excursions in the

Middle East, if there's a terrorist attack in the United States, I could see us having CBDC implemented in a matter of a couple of weeks here in the US if there's a terrorist attack, because they'll say, well, it's about money laundering and terrorism. Crypto's bad, they'll say, because it's used for terrorism, which isn't true or not even close to the scale that cash is used. But then they'll but then they'll say well we can't have cash either because cash can't be traced and so this is going to be the typical reason of using a fear-based event to push something that absolutely strips us of our rights yeah how is obama going to get uh billions of dollars to uh to the iranians if he can't send them a plane filled with cash, foreign currencies especially. Maybe it'll be the other foreign

currencies from other people that he'll use to pay them off. The problem with these CBDCs is their CBDCs are not like Bitcoin where there's a transparent ledger of all the transactions in a fixed supply. The kinds of CBDC they're looking at implementing, they're

going to have control over how much they'll be able to digitally print it and they'll be able to, excuse me, program the money in ways that we're not going to be able to see. So in some ways, they're going to have even more capacity to do nefarious things based on how it's structured. Yeah, we didn't start with that in terms of the features. And listeners of this program pretty much know about CBDC. But kind of lay out the case against this in a nutshell when you would present this to people who didn't know anything about it. Because as I pointed out in the past, a lot of times people didn't know what CBDC was. But if you described the functions to them and the potential the potential risks of this the downside of it they didn't want to have anything to do with it but they didn't know it was cbdc so uh what would

be the nutshell case that you would give to somebody who's kind of coming into it cold yeah i mean basically central bank digital currencies or cbdcs are basically a form of digital money that can be programmed monitored and, and censored by the government. So basically, the way you'll hear the globalists present it is it's all about financial inclusion and convenience. But in reality, they will be able to see every transaction you spend. They'll be able to even control how you spend money in the first place. So if you've ever had a health savings account, a health savings account is basically a debit card that you'll get from Visa or MasterCard and you can only spend it on certain health related items well imagine that concept except

applied to everything you buy so in other words if you're trying to buy something with this digital cash and the thing you're trying to buy isn't already on an approved government list, you can't buy it. It's also the gateway to other things like social credit systems and everything else. So in the future, if your social credit score drops, if you say something on social media people don't like, if you use too much CO2 based on whatever their guidelines are, they can actually restrict your usage of cash. If in the future the government decides they need to stimulate the economy, they can actually say, and I've seen this in the EU and some of the language around how they're looking at their CBDC, they can literally just say,

use it or lose it. If you have money in your account in the form of CBDCs, if you don't use it by such and such a date, we're literally going to remove it from your account because this is the way that we want to stimulate the economy it is complete control over human behavior using digital cash that's controlled by the government and to me it is the single biggest threat to human liberty which is why i ran for president and it's why i wrote the book yes yes. Yes. And of course, you know, when we look at it, it's by knowing everything that you're doing, they can, you know, ration things to you like food and meat and things like that. They don't want you to have too much of. It's also it harkens back the beginning of the excerpt that you had in that article that was up on Brownstone the excerpt from your book uh was um it kind of begins with um you know life and these people are living in this uh you know smart city 15 minute city something like that and

unfortunately the husband says something that the political authorities take exception to and it reminded me very much of what we always would hear about stalinism you know they control your job and therefore your your money, but they also owned your house. So you couldn't work except with their approval, and they were the ones who were providing you with a home. So if the political authorities didn't like that, you were homeless, and you were penniless, and you were out on the street.

But this is far worse than that, because they have so much more visibility as to what you're doing. And, you know, when we talk about the 15-minute city issue, that's another aspect of the CBDC. They can, you know, determine where you can spend that money. So maybe you couldn't spend that money outside of your little 15-minute area or maybe the larger smart city that they have put you in. You can't go to another place and have anything to live off of when you go there. So it's about a kind of control that people have only theorized about in dystopian science fiction models, but it is that and more.

It is really a horrific thing. Well, it's that and more. And actually, if you look at the UN 17 Sustainable Development Goals, you can actually get a sense. What I did is just an exercise. As I said, okay, well, let's look at all these 17 sustainable development goals. If you were going to turn that into a social credit score, what would you measure and what types of incentives and penalties would you put in place? And how would you tie that into a tracking system and into CBDC? And when you go through that

exercise, what comes out of the end is something that looks a lot like what already exists in China today. I think one of the big issues with this and my big urgency on this, again, the reason I've been a serial entrepreneur and a political activist for a long time, I dropped everything to focus on this because really two things. One, I saw the person who introduced me to Bitcoin in 2012 is now spending eight years in federal prison for the act of selling Bitcoin. Another friend of mine who started a company called Library or Odyssey, you may know it, it's a platform for content. He was targeted by the SEC and basically put out a business because he was using the blockchain technology and was using tokens. And so I started to see that not only was the government is cracking down big time

on decentralized cryptocurrency. And I wanted to look at, well, why are they doing this? Because my friends who are suffering through this weren't weren't doing illegal activities they were actually very much hardcore liberty activists that were just engaging in voluntary activity and then when i studied how far cbdc's had gotten that then i then i saw well wow the alarm bells went off because as of today there are 1.3 billion registered cbdc accounts globally people are not aware of this yeah i didn't yeah go ahead china china has deployed cbdcs uh they're gradually they started out with 265 million accounts they're rolling it out to the rest of the country there are 11 other countries that have already implemented cbdcs there are 130 countries that are at various stages of either exploration or piloting CBDCs.

And to put this into perspective, Bitcoin's been around for 15 years and there are multiple different types of crypto. There are 580 million people globally using decentralized crypto. There are 1.3 billion CBDC accounts. So the growth rate on this is phenomenal. And of course, it's forced. So it's a little bit different than whatever voluntary adoption might be. But it's eclipsed crypto.

And the more alarming part, and I actually wrote an article that's on Zero Hedge about this, is the United States has completed three successful CBDC pilots. And this does not hit the mainstream news. And if you ever hear Fed Chair Powell talk about CBDC, he does one of these, well, we don't even know if we're going to consider it seriously. It's still at the discussion stage. The reality is they've done three successful pilots the first pilot is called project hamilton and it was done as a joint venture between the mit media lab and the federal reserve of boston and this is basically what would replace cash this is basically what you know that's the substitute and in their pilot that they did from 2020 to 2022, they got the technology to work and it can handle 1.7 million transactions per second. So to put that in perspective of the existing financial system and in the conclusion

what they said is well the technology works but we need to figure out the legality and how to market it which to me says they're waiting for a crisis yes to put it to work but people aren't aware of that now this gets even worse because this mit multimedia, the chair of the MIT Multimedia Lab was a guy by the name of Joy Ito, who famously received funding from Jeffrey Epstein and visited Epstein's island a couple of times. And the article that I wrote about this goes into some, I've uncovered some things that were really astonishing. And not to go into too much

i don't know how much technical detail your audience is used to on on crypto or getting into any specifics but go into the specifics and go into the details they can handle it so so i'll so i'll say this so you know i i got involved in bitcoin in 2012 and i've been using it in fact in new hampshire there are stores and restaurants where you can actually use or could use up until about 2017. You could actually use Bitcoin to buy and sell things in the state of New Hampshire. Something happened in 2017 where there was a big split in the Bitcoin world. And the white paper for Bitcoin says in the first sentence that it's supposed to be used for peer-to-peer digital cash. It's supposed to be used for people as a means of exchange, a means of basically it's a currency. And all of a sudden in 2017, the narrative shifted from Bitcoin being about digital cash

to it being about digital gold. Now it's something that you hold to preserve your value. It's something like gold. You don't use gold typically today for day-to-day transactions, but you use it to preserve your value. It's something like gold. You don't use gold typically today for day-to-day transactions, but you use it to preserve your wealth as the dollar keeps on losing its value as we keep on printing more money. Well, it turns out that the developer, one of the main developers who was involved in making this technical change, switching bitcoin from cash to gold was also one of the

authors of the white paper for project hamilton the cbdc and his the funding came from this joy ito guy from mit multimedia lab and i found that i found an article the only article about this where epstein was interviewed where he talked in 2017 while all this was happening about how he liked bitcoin but didn't think it was a currency but instead thought it was a store of value or digital gold so we have a situation here where this mit multimedia lab with funding ties to epstein and gates because gates was actually funneling money into the MIT multimedia lab through Epstein. So it's real incestuous. Wow. Was involved in both developing the CBDC pilot, and I would argue hobbling Bitcoin at the same time. And there's one common developer

that was involved in both of those tasks. Wow. So there was another CBDC pilot called Project Cedar, which is a wholesale CBDC pilot. So it's basically banks communicating with one another for larger volume transactions and doing cross-border transactions, which are very expensive and cumbersome. Now, how does that fit in with FedNow, which is what FedNow is sold as a wholesale thing? Was that a preliminary to FedNow and the project? No, that actually, that was launched after FedNow. So FedNow is technically not a CBDC. FedNow is an infrastructure. It basically makes real-time settlement possible between banks in the United States. So the focus of it is domestic. This project, Cedar, is about

programmable money that is cross-border. And then there's an even more dystopian pilot called Regulated Liability Network you know i find with these things if if they give it a really boring name then there's probably some real nefarious agenda behind it because i it took me several times to read the white paper on this thing to fully understand what it is and the idea behind regulated liability network is it's a one database basically to track all cbdcs and non-cbdc transactions it's basically like a an uber database that tracks everything whether it's cbdcs from one country to another or it even contemplates you know bitcoin and what is really frightening is is the idea of tokenizing everything so this is a big movement right now and you'll see blackstone talking about it real world assets

and everything else but basically we're moving to a model where people are tokenizing everything tokenizing stocks this computer that i have in the future could be tokenized every asset you have could have a digital token associated with it and through this regulated liability network you're going to be able to have multiple regulatory agencies monitoring censoring and tracking uh transactions across different blockchains and cbdc's as well as these digital tokens so in the future not only could they should offer your money but if i go to the store and i buy a new apple computer and it is associated with a digital token, if the government decides my social credit score drops or they don't like what I say on social media, they can not only shut off my money, they can shut off access to my computer and my ability to even sell the computer. So it's the next level dystopian infrastructure that they're putting in place. Those three pilots, all three of them, have one commonality, which is funding from the MIT Multimedia Lab.

Wow. Wow. Yeah, one network to rule them all, essentially. And, you know, there's also funding from DARPA going to Microsoft for something I talk about frequently, the Coalition for Content Provenance and Authentication. That is there to, quote-unquote, push against disinformation and misinformation. It's there to shut down free speech. But what that does is that marks anything that you do,

and it's a coalition of hardware and software manufacturers as well as a coalition of gatekeeper media companies that are allied with the government. And so when we look at this, every aspect of our life, free speech and any kind of commercial transactions, they want to centrally control and be able to shut down anything and everything that we do, our speech, our movement, our financial transactions, everything. But the CBDC is right at the center of all of this. And, um, and of course, uh, the Biden administration,

uh, began, what was it? Uh, March 9th or something, 2022, where he, he,

uh, tells everybody in, the federal government to, um, you got four areas that we, everybody had, uh, all of the bureaucrats,

um, under the executive branch, uh, the deep state, they all had, uh, one of four areas that they needed to report back to him in six months. It was how are we going to completely redesign the financial system?

How are we going to do the software to make this thing work? Law enforcement had one of the different branches. How are we going to enforce this and force people to do it? And finally, they were going to market it with um uh environmental issues because that's one of the tactics that they use against cryptocurrency to say that um uh you know the the crypto mining is uh too inefficient but of course these are people keeping dossiers on everything and everybody in the world and keeping them at their data centers as well as constant surveillance and data mining so that's kind of a sham but they're very serious about that and as well as constant surveillance and data mining. So that's kind of a sham, but they're very serious about that.

And as soon as they did that, they started rolling out FedNow. But you believe that this is something that may happen even before the election. I think it'll happen before. It could happen before the election. This is why I'm so passionate about this and trying to get the message out. But yeah, Biden passed Executive Order 14 order 14 067 as you just described which which contemplates both pursuing a cbdc and also regulating all of the other digital assets and and they've been following through on that it there are numerous exchanges that have in fact most of the exchanges have gone under there are numerous

tokens and projects that have been targeted by the SEC, like my friend who started library. Um, and my other friend who's in jail for, for selling Bitcoin. So they've actually been cracking down on Bitcoin, ATMs, your ability to buy and sell, uh, the IRS just passed a new thing, which, which says that, you know, you have to fill out paperwork for any crypto transactions in excess of $10,000. And of course, they did that and then didn't provide the form. So in other words, there was- You can't comply.

Basically, there's no way to comply. And so basically, you couldn't do... It's essentially a way of saying you can't do any transactions north of $10,000 without risking criminal penalties and going to jail. So they have been very successful at hobbling decentralized crypto and adoption. And again, these pilots are sitting there. And the technology is sitting there waiting to be deployed. And Fed now is the infrastructure on top of which they can put a cbdc or i guess technically they could if they wanted to be backhanded about it they could actually congress is required in order to put through a new currency but there's nothing that says that

the banks can't regulate how the existing currency is sent back and forth. So you could get effectively a de facto, all of the negative aspects of a CBDC by regulating the way money is transmitted through the FedNow system. So I've thought about that as a possibility as well. So from my perspective, when I look at, again, Biden and what he's decided, we're going to take military action in the Middle East, you can imagine a situation where if there's a terrorist attack on american soil you will get bipartisan support for a cbdc on the basis of stopping money laundering and terrorism yeah and as an exam as an example for this the patriot act was passed 45 days after 9 11. tarp was passed 18 days after lehman brothers collapsed and the 2.2 trillion

dollar cares act was passed 15 days after covert was officially declared a pandemic on a voice vote many people are still in congress have voted for all three of those things so the idea that they wouldn't usher in cbs in an emergency, I think there's a high probability that they could bring it in an emergency. And from my conversations with Ted Cruz, Cynthia Loomis, and then some of the folks like Warren Davidson and others in the House, the votes are simply not there before the 2024 election to stop something like this. And again, if it's done in an emergency, it'll probably get bipartisan support. Wow, that is amazing.

And of course, an emergency could also include some kind of a financial emergency. That's what many people have been talking about. And I'm sure you kind of war-gamed that out as well. Do you see this possibly happening with some kind of a financial emergency? Because they certainly have created their conditions ripe for a financial emergency,

just like they've created conditions ripe for World War III or a terrorist attack. Well, yeah. My opinion is that what we're seeing is an actual intentional controlled demolition of the existing financial system because it's the typical problem-reaction-solution model. They create the problem. They try to generate a reaction, which is usually fear, and then they already have the solution waiting in the winnings so they already they already know they want to implement cbdc they've already developed the technology and clearly the world is going in that

direction and so a financial crisis if you look at it so the dollar has gone from being backed by gold to banks being required to hold at least 10% of customer deposits in reserves. We have a fractional reserve banking system that was eliminated under COVID. So banks are no longer required to have 10% of customer deposits on reserve, which means that, okay, if you go in to take your money out of the bank, where is the bank getting the money to be able to satisfy your withdrawal request? Well, they're getting it from a principal and interest on what? Commercial real estate, which is failing. Residential real estate, which is struggling. Consumer debt, student loans, which were just restarted recently, and 46%

folks said, well, I'm not going to repay my student loans right out of the bat. So the bank is already in a situation where they have no reserves and basically their source of liquidity is drying up. So I think our banking system is in an incredibly weak position. And this at a time when Russia announced today, one of their strategic plans for 2024 is to get off the dollar as soon as possible. The bricks are moving aggressively to get off the dollar as soon as possible. The BRICs are moving aggressively to get off the dollar. So you basically have pressure on the dollar, on fiat currency, and on the banks for multiple directions in a way that we haven't seen in modern history. So I think that collapse is the baseline scenario. And the best thing that we can do is actually to

get out of the dollar and start using self-custody crypto gold and silver in a parallel economy to protect ourselves or otherwise we're going to get forced into cbdc that's how we get forced into cbdc all of a sudden one day it's oh your fiat currency is now cbdc i mean that's you know it'll be a bank holiday and and that's it yes and we have um one of our major sponsors is um uh wise wolf gold and silver we set up david knight dot gold and and whenever i talk about it aaron i say you know i don't look at at gold is really uh you know they can manipulate the price of gold they can manipulate the value of the dollar so these things are constantly fluctuating and fluctuating for their advantage. And you try to time this, you're going to get burned.

I said, no, I look at it as a necessity because of CBDC. And I look at it, and you're talking about crypto, gold, and silver. It really is necessary. You talk about the fragility of the banking system, commercial real estate that you pointed out, that is heavily, heavily impacting the small and medium-sized banks. And they're already shaky because of the rapid escalation of interest rates that left them trapped with T-bills and things like that, as we saw several bank failures. So the entire banking industry, except for the really big guys that are going to be too big to fail, they're going to be partnering with the Federal Reserve,

and they will make sure that Jamie Dimon and these people continue. But the rest of the banking industry is incredibly fragile at this point because of this volatility in the interest rates that caught them out and because of commercial real estate stuff that, again, harkens back to COVID. Let's talk a little bit about uh nigeria because uh of all the the countries that tried this stuff nigeria uh was one where they they did an early experiment uh people didn't like it uh what did what can we learn from that experiment and what did they learn from that experiment because i'm sure that they have fine-tuned the way that they'll impose it

on us after what they saw with n. So what are your comments about Nigeria? Well, Nigeria is an interesting case and I actually talked to several people on a Twitter space from Nigeria about this as it was going on. One of the things that you'll find and one of the things I talk about in the book is that there really is a push here towards one world global government and there are specific organizations involved in pushing this specifically things like cbdc's and those organizations include the wef the un the international monetary fund and the world bank and in the case of nigeria nigeria is one of these examples where nobody in the country wanted a CBDC. Nobody was asking for a CBDC. The CBDC was pushed on them by the World Bank and the IMF with strings,

as those organizations often do as they go in and help destroy property rights and destroy countries for the purpose of enforcing their own standards and their own will. So Nigeria was not set up from a technological perspective to have CBDCs. So just from a basic perspective, so it doesn't really apply as much here because obviously most people here are using online banking or have cell phones or whatever. I mean, we're already from a technical standpoint, able to handle the actual adoption of it. But in Nigeria, they literally didn't have the technical infrastructure. And so people were

going to ATMs and all of a sudden, we couldn't pull out cash and you had fires and rioting and everything else. And so it really, I think in that particular instance came down to, this was a country where they weren't technologically enabled for it and they handled the marketing and the rollout of it in a in a horrible way and if i recall correctly i think their their head of their central bank is in is in prison right now because there are also claims of of of corruption involving um a whole variety of different issues and so so i so i i don't know that we can take much from the Nigerian experiment and apply it here. And because there are 1.3 billion people on the planet that now have CBDC accounts, a lot of the arguments or a lot of the complacency is, well, yeah,

maybe they've done it in some of these smaller countries, but they can't do it here. Well, no, if they can do it in China, then from a technological perspective, they't do it here well no if they can do it in china then from a technological perspective they can do it here oh yeah and and again the tech the tech already exists so if people were willing to take vaccines for a donut or you know a medium or french fries then then they'll use the carrot they'll use the carrot and the stick or the stick it depends on the situation so either we're going to have some fear-based event and it'll be pushed in to keep everybody safe, or they'll try to make it one of these things where I'll get 1.3 digital dollars for every $1 you have in your bank account. And most people, if they're unaware of what's going on behind the scenes, will actually take it because it seems like a good deal at the time. And all of their marketing is about

convenience and financial inclusion. These are their buzzwords. I'm going to do another article that talks about the doublespeak and provides a guidebook to what these terms mean when these people are pushing this out. Because the biggest one you're going to hear, we heard it at Davos again a couple of weeks ago. You hear it at the UN. It's financial inclusion. This is all about financial inclusion. That's how they try to market it and and it couldn't be anything further from the truth yeah they want to exclude you from everything uh because you're not going to be a stakeholder they're going to be the people that have all the stakes that they're holding all the stakes on us yeah that's the type of thing that gates worked with india on with the adhar system and he came

in saying you know what these people are just not included in society. They need to have an ID. It's like, oh, I didn't realize that was what was missing from my life. Some kind of new government ID. And so they incentivized it with the poor people saying, if you take the number of the government, the number of the beast, you're going to get you can get some welfare. You can get health care and that type of thing. And we've seen this, Aaron, with WorldCoin. You know, Sam Altman is out there saying, well, you know, you let us scan your eyeball or whatever.

We'll give you some free WorldCoin. And so I think there'll be a stage. And when I look at Nigeria, maybe they tried to roll it out slowly, kind of incentivize it. They go, well, maybe we've got some poor people here. We can offer them something and do it that way. But people didn't really want it. So then when the bribery doesn't work, they come out with the bands and the blunt instruments and start beating you into coercion. And that's, I think, really where the emergency scenario that you talked about.

I think people are going to rapidly catch on to what this is about unless there is an emergency. And as you pointed out, when there's an emergency, everybody's brain just shuts off because of the fear and they're grasping for anything, no matter how obviously dangerous and risky it is, they will grab for that, you know, because this is not even something that's going to directly affect their health like a vaccine. This is something that is a danger to their freedom, a danger to them politically and legally in the future. And so, of course, they're not going to have as much resistance to it, I don't think, as they did to taking the shot

when they were told there was an emergency. And it works every time. Fear works every time. And they know it works. And I will tell you, one of the things that's interesting is I traveled to 20 states last year, meeting with various groups of people. And I will say 80% at least had never heard of CBDCs. So this is not a phrase or a concept or a topic that has hit the mainstream at all. But I'll tell you something even more alarming, and it's really changed my strategy with this. I originally thought early, well, maybe it'll be the younger generation that will adopt this because they're more used to

technology. But actually, I'm focusing more of my attention on boomers and Gen X for a variety of reasons. One, they have all of the wealth. wealth i mean i think boomers have 53 percent of the of the wealth in this country but they also have some uh kind of remembrance of of privacy or or concept of privacy and individual rights what what i'm seeing with gen z and and even millennials to a certain degree is a complete disconnect there's's a, I think Cato had a report out that said something like 35% of Gen Z would be okay with the federal government installing security cameras in people's homes to monitor for domestic violence. I remember that.

Yeah. Big brother. And big brother. And so, so the idea of privacy, so, so they're going to be more inclined to be like, yeah, well, whatever. This is more convenient. It's digital. Why wouldn't we use this? So I'm actually focusing my effort more on boomers and Gen X at this point.

Not that, you know, eventually we need to get everyone, but the barrier is even harder for the younger generations because they don't have an expectation of privacy or, and they don't value, they don't value it as much. So think about it, you know, and I've mentioned it many times. I thought it was very interesting how they, and I don't believe it was a coincidence. I believe they started all the big brother stuff, the reality TV, and it was put out there when these generations are very young and a lot of them consumed that. And then, oh, by the way, now we got social media. You can do, you can be a big brother celebrity too you might get a lot of followers and so it really kind of helped to break down

those barriers and and people became kind of exhibitionists about their private life and they weren't careful about what they were putting out there publicly and so they don't really care about privacy they would much rather be known by everybody that's out there they don't get the the big picture you know when desantis talked about, he had about a 20 or 30 minute press conference and he had the sign up that said, big brother, digital money. And I was absolutely blown away that after he gives this presentation talking about what we've been talking about and all the downsides of how it could be used and abused against people.

The first question was, yeah, but what about President Trump and Alvin Bragg in Manhattan? You know, what's going on with that trial? And it's like, it's total non sequitur about that. And so everybody is caught up in the theatrics of politics and everything. And, you know, nobody there, the press was really interested. Maybe they were, maybe that was a millennial who was asking the question. It's like, Big Brother, who cares? I love Big Brother.

That's one of my favorite tv shows you know it's like there's this total disconnect from reality total disconnect to all these existential issues that are popping up very quickly and even if they had debates as you pointed out uh the debates that the same questions are being asked that were asked 30 40 years years ago. And they're not really relevant today, but they control everything. And then they, this time around, they've even shut down. The debates are going to shut down essentially the presidential primaries. Talk a little bit about, you said that Ramaswamy read your book and pass it on to Trump. Now, you know, when I saw Trump make the announcement, he just mentioned

central bank, digital currency and our reaction to it and listeners said, so I guess he got ahold of some of those analytics out there that said that some people are aware of this and he needs to talk about it, but maybe it was a Rama Swami whispering into his ear, but I don't really, you know, I, I don't trust the fact that, that he's going to do anything about it because it was in his administration that Steve Mnuchin, Treasury Secretary, and Jared Kushner were talking about CBDC and what they could do to afford it. So I think this is a bipartisan thing, as you've pointed out. Not very many people in Congress have any concern about this, even if they know what it is. And this might be something that they may talk about but

you know can we really trust any of these guys do anything about it and as you point out they could very easily roll this stuff in before we even have an election yeah so so rum swami did bring it up to trump and in fact trump gave him credit for it trump explicitly gave uh gave vive credit for pushing him on the cbdc issue do i believe him no i i i you know you know i was arguing with somebody it's like well you didn't repeal obamacare we could go through the yeah building the wall and have back i'm not going to go through all the laundry lists but but but am i going to rest safe and sound thinking that he's not going to do this one of the things that i have found that trump does is he'll make a promise and then he'll go back on it but then he'll claim

it's because he's really good at doing deals yeah and this is how you get good promise and then he'll go back on it but then he'll claim it's because he's really good at doing deals yeah and this is how you get good deals and then and then his followers will just accept that he never gets any accountability because of that somehow he has this he's been able to use this device of being you know the art of the deal he's been able to craft that into a kind of a scapegoat for not following through on principle. But more importantly, and this is one of the areas that Vivek and I disagreed on a little bit, which is I actually put out a candidate pledge. And the pledge was, yes, if elected, I will veto and do everything in my power to stop a CBDC. But there was a second part to the pledge that says, if they try to implement

it before the 2024 election, I will do my best to promote the idea to the American citizens directly that they should move into self-custody crypto gold and silver as a way to stop it before the election. And that was a sticking point with me and Vivek. I was actually trying to get him to sign that pledge. and this is the bigger point so is trump you know is he on this issue because of the analytics because it's something that it looks like he needs to he needs to actually say in order to get elected or is he really going to be willing to even before the election if they try to put it in use his uh his megaphone to encourage people to take direct action to stop it. I do not believe he will do that.

I think we need to talk before we run out of time about self-custody on some of these things. And as you point out, you've gotten completely out of cash. Just real quickly, though, it would be interesting. Did you have any discussions with anybody, any other candidates besides Ramaswamy that were running? And besides Ted Cruz, who has talked about any other politicians that you've talked to and and what might be their responses? Well, I've got a dozen or so state reps in New Hampshire that have signed my pledge. I've talked to state reps in different Montana, Texas and a variety of different states at the local level. And there's a big push now at the state level to try to make gold and silver legal tender at the state level. So I've been talking to some of the people involved in that.

They're working heavily on that here in Tennessee, even trying to get a state bank and a state depository and trying to get the state government to own gold in case there is some kind of a financial emergency. Yeah, so there are efforts I've also, I debated, ironically, I couldn't get into any Republican debates, but I had multiple debates with various libertarian presidential candidates and so the libertarian presidential candidates, not surprisingly are all against CBDCs and a couple of them, Mike Tirmot, um, uh, and Michael Recktenwald have actually signed my pledge. So if you actually look at it right now, RFK, Trump, the leading candidates in the race, everybody but Biden has at least stated they're anti-CBDC.

So that's something, but again, to me, it's something but not enough. It's not enough. I know. It's more interesting that these people would even just turn their back on it i mean a pledge is easy enough to sign and when they don't do that that tells you a great deal about people like nikki or whatever uh but let's talk about the self-custody and things that

we can do as individuals because uh there really isn't anything that we can do i i think that there's not much we can do in washington uh it's difficult to get anything done even at the state level what can we do as individuals? What have you done? Well, what I've done, so I got into crypto in 2012. In 2019, I exited the dollar completely and moved everything into crypto gold and silver. And in fact, I'd been a political activist for a long time. I'd given up on the political process as well. So I helped get people elected.

I've run for a number of different offices. I'm like, look, this is done. I'm going to move into crypto. I'm going to move into this technology and start thinking about parallel economies and everything else. And then COVID happened and a variety of other things. And then I saw, well, this isn't just about having decentralized alternatives. They're taking perverted forms of this technology and using it to create complete tyranny. So there's no coexisting. There's no going and hiding in a cabin in the woods when your opponent wants a one world global technocracy where they have control over every aspect of

humanity and control the land the air and the sea that doesn't coexist with you know hiding out somewhere so I realized we actually have to confront this head-on so I you know I've been using uh and my book goes into specific details on which cryptos to consider wallets and with gold and silver. In fact, this probably won't, probably can't see this, or you can kind of see this. I'm holding a gold back. I don't know if you've seen these. This is one one thousandth of an ounce of gold. And I actually i i give these to people if i go to a restaurant or something i will typically give these as a tip with some kind of an explanation so that you know you now have because the big one of the big concerns about gold as well how are you what

are you going to do go to a grocery store and you know slice off a piece of of gold and and so these gold backs are a way of putting gold into a usable form. I've also used silver. You can get silver in one-tenth of an ounce increments. And so you can use that actually for day-to-day trade. And again, I'm in New Hampshire where there's a lot of receptivity to these kinds of things. With respect to crypto, I recommend, I'm not selling or promoted, but I only recommend cryptos that are based on the Bitcoin white paper that are decentralized, that don't have a centralized corporate structure,

because those cryptos can be easily shut down by the government. And in some ways aren't even materially different than the existing system. Something like Ethereum is completely centralized in the way that it operates. The transactions can be reversed. It doesn't really offer any real true innovation with respect to. And many people have talked about maybe, you know, Ethereum might be the substrate in which they build something real quickly to put it out there on people, right? I did not realize that the Ethereum transactions could be reversed. That's interesting well they can be reversed because because now instead of it being this proof of work model where you have computers competing to solve math puzzles to see who adds the next block

of transactions these are now more controlled by whoever has more coins has a greater say in adding the transactions to the next block so So it's kind of like a normal system where it's controlled by a smaller group of elites. It's also very expensive to use. Preston Pyshko Yeah. Jeff Booth And arguably, it could be in illegal security. So what I'm looking for are specifically, and I want to be clear about this, I'm not making investment recommendation advice. I'm talking about the use of cryptocurrency as cash as a replacement for cash which is different than as a speculative investment so bitcoin which i mentioned went through this thing in 2017 where there were

some technological changes made to it made it unusable really as as cash There was a period of time in 2017, you had Expedia, Microsoft, overstock.com. You had major companies and websites taking Bitcoin directly as a payment option. And what happened was because of extra use, the transaction fees went up to as high as $55. So if you're going to spend $55 and in some cases 10 to 14 days to complete a transaction, that made Bitcoin unusable as money. Now they had an option. They had an option, which is they could increase what are called the size of the block. So basically make it so that every 10 minutes you can handle more transactions, which is what basically the Bitcoin white paper and some of the other discussions contemplated. But instead of doing that, they decided to implement this completely alternative system.

And so Bitcoin is not recovered from that peak in 2017, where it was being used directly as a payment option. They now have this thing called Lightning Network and all of these other things that are complicated, hard to use, and have a variety of other issues associated with it so i found myself using predominantly bitcoin cash uh bitcoin sv ravencoin and litecoin are are the the main cryptocurrencies that i've been using as cash with Bitcoin Cash being the one that I've used the most. So Bitcoin Cash actually split off from Bitcoin and has, so it's essentially the same as the original Bitcoin model, except with larger transaction capacity. So that's what I've been using. And what you can do is there are certain stores where you can use Bitcoin Cash directly, and you can also convert Bitcoin Cash to a debit card if you need to and use that to

make transactions um and then there are services like bid pay where you can actually like pay in certain cases your mortgage or other bills directly using crypto through a third-party application like bid pay and so I outline all of this in in my book in terms of how you can actually acquire these cryptos and actually use them for day-to-day transactions to pay your bills. Do you address having an offline wallet and that type of thing? Because that's the other way that they can shut this stuff down, of course, shutting down the internet and shutting down these online transactions. And that's one aspect of this as a boomer who's not gotten involved in this that I don't

understand, and that is the wallet offline. Is that something that you use? Is that something you talk about in your book? Well, one thing I didn't mention, so I stress self-custody. So one part about this is that you want to get a wallet, and you don't want to have it in an exchange like Coinbase. That may be where you need to acquire the crypto, but want to have it on on your own uh device or there are things called hardware wallets or other options where you can store your keys and and basically have in your own possession your cryptocurrency uh i mean i you get this question a lot well what if the grid goes down i mean to be honest if the grid goes down then we're going to

be a you know after 90 days in a state of cannibalism. That's not even a joke. I know. So there are other things you can do around that. There are things that you can do like create mesh networks, and there's a whole other side to this, which are ways of being off-grid and creating alternative networks to maybe keep some of this stuff going. But this is why I recommend crypto gold and silver. I'm not recommending just crypto or just gold or just silver. I think to predict that any one crypto or any one of these things is going to win out at

the end of the day would be foolish. It's good to have kind of a balanced approach. And when I do my workshop at the end, people will have a gold back they'll have silver and they'll have a self-custody crypto wallet with some crypto in it just to get them started with the process but it's something you have to monitor on an ongoing basis i mean i'm i'm constantly there are more uh i just saw this rodney dangerfield joke it was um i went to a boxing match and a hockey game broke out um and you know and i feel like that you know i went to a political debate and a in a bitcoin fork war broke out i mean there's so much division and infighting within crypto yeah and it actually makes it hard for me i'd like to be able to say to somebody buy this crypto and here's the solution i can't what i can

do is i can educate you on a variety of options and ways of looking at this and to say you need to stay up on it because i'm staying up on it it's changed it changes so rapidly and it's going to continue to change based on government crackdowns there are lawsuits going on within the bitcoin community there's one coming up called the copa versus craig wright lawsuit which has implications, depending on how that goes, that will affect Bitcoin and the derivatives of it. And so there's just a lot to stay on top of. But I do encourage people to, as I outlined in the book, get some small amount of crypto and put it in self custody and start figuring out how it works. There's no substitute for experience and playing around with it. Well, that's good. And your book is the final countdown crypto gold, silver, and the people's last stand

against tyranny by central bank digital currencies. And in that you not only lay out a fictional scenario of what it's going to be like, so people can understand, so they can talk to other, other people about this, but it also, you got some practical tips in there as well and um were there some comments there travis that that people had um let me read these comments too we've got just a little bit of time left here um uh this is um uh this is from surge the purge who has uh also has a podcast uh thank you for the tip, Serge. He says, David, I strongly feel this is the wrong mentality with CBDC. I'm 24.

I'm Gen Z and my parents are Gen X and most Gen Xers I've talked to think there's nothing to see here. A lot of them think that they're still on the eighties. If anything, we must educate people in my age group. We're the ones who are going to have to live with this in the future. Trump is hope porn. I personally wouldn't even entertain him in the conversation of stopping CBDC.

All just talking points. Call me black-pilled, but this is such a serious issue. I think rather educate on gold and silver and help people my age understand the severity of their future through CBDC. Most boomers I've talked to literally told me to my face, they'll be gone anyway. You know, I hear that all the time, Aaron, when I talk to people about taking away cars, you know, say taking away your ability to drive cars. And they said, well, yeah, I think that's going to happen, but it's not going to happen

in my lifetime. And then I would have people at auto shows who were 18 years old who would tell me that. And it's like, and, you know, we look at this stuff and we look at how they're cracking down on this and the types of narratives that they pushed to us. I think everybody needs to be concerned about this. And I think the book

that you've got there and the scenario that you've laid out, I think that's very important. Again, the final countdown, is that available on Amazon, I guess? It's available on Amazon

and it's in Kindle form, hardback, paper paperback and also audiobook but but to address the the the question that you had i'm not just focused on boomers i the book is made to be accessible to everyone there's a very specific reason though that if anything i'm spending a little bit more time it's it's this it's the banking collapse as it is staged right now it's a controlled demolition of the banking system in order to stop the acceleration we actually need to accelerate the banking system collapse and the way to do that is the boomers have all of the wealth so this is just a simple math problem of if you're going to try to get people to take money out of

the system and move it into these alternatives boomers and Gen X simply have more resources in the bank it's not a question of yeah Millennials and Gen Z and you know I mean I have 13 year old twins and so I certainly I'm not I I don't want to leave anybody out but we're in a word so I the material is accessible to everyone but I'm focused on where we can get the biggest biggest impact and and I've talked to a lot of boomers that are actually take the opposite view they're very concerned about their kids and their grandchildren and and they're very concerned um on the other end about what's going on and I know I'm Gen X so there's there's you see these memes where it's like you know

boomers fighting with with Millennials while Gen x kind of just sits there and relaxes and has a has a martini while watching it and and i i'm not saying that that's what it's like but there is more well and i'll say this too we look at people people who retired all my life i've i've noticed this uh the people who retired have got more time and and they are are not as busy with life as uh the younger generations are and so many of them will get involved very heavily and be very knowledgeable about politics. And as you pointed out, a lot of them are concerned. I think the best of them are going to be concerned about future generations. People who are only concerned about themselves, they're not going to be a part of the solution in anything. It's only going to be the people who are looking after, who want to not ruin the future for future generations, for their

children, for their grandchildren especially. Those are the people who can make the change. As you point out, they've got most of the financial assets. They've got time that they can get involved in this instead of playing shuffleboard or something. And they can have a real positive effect for other people. And so I do see that. I do understand and agree with that. And I think you also sell your book at your website. Is that correct? Do you want to give that to people?

Well, my website is day2024.com. That's my old campaign site. It just links to Amazon. Oh, okay. But if you want to see what I was campaigning about, it's a good place to go. Okay. Good centralized resource for that. Well, a very interesting discussion, and we've let it go over a little bit on time because it was so interesting.

But thank you so much for joining us. folks uh aaron day and uh the the uh book is final countdown to uh cb final countdown the crypto gold silver and people's last stand against tyranny by cbdc so that is uh actually spells it out so you can find it there on um and on amazon and of course aaron day uh you can look by author a a r o n thank you so much aaron and good luck to you uh i i certainly hope you can get the word out we need to get that word out it's one of the reasons why we talked about the political uh position on this and and it is important to know uh who the people are that are so dead set against our liberty that they won't even make a worthless campaign pledge because that is cheap that is

cheap to just say yeah i agree with you sure you know shake your hand oh i absolutely love it and then go do something else but the people who won't even do that we need to mark those people thank you so much aaron appreciate it thank you for having me thank you The David Knight Show is a critical thinking super spreader. If you've been exposed to logic by listening to The David Knight Show, please do your part and try not to spread it. Financial support or simply telling others about the show causes this dangerous information to spread farther. People have to Trust me. I mean, trust the science. Wear your mask. Take your vaccine. Don't ask questions.

Using free speech to free minds. It's the David Knight Show. All right, welcome back. And joining us now is J. Warner Wallace. He's been a guest once before. We've talked about his background. He was a cold case detective. This is somebody who goes back and investigates murder cases, things that don't have a statute of limitations, murder cases where perhaps all the witnesses have died,

and he's just going back looking at the physical evidence of it. He's now written a book called The Truth in True Crime, and I love the tagline here. When Investigating Death Teaches Us About the Meaning of Life. It looks like a fantastic book, and so I wanted to get him on to talk about that one as well. Thank you for joining us, sir. Well, thanks for having me.

I really appreciate it. This is my favorite book I've written so far, so I'm glad to talk about it. Oh, it looks like a great angle, and something that really affects all of us, and everybody loves the crime aspect, and the things that you glean from it, too, are really interesting, I think.

Yeah, I think there's actually some hidden, like, I was not a Christian through all my career, but through, you know, the first eight years or so, I was not a believer until I was 35. I became a believer by examining the Gospels kind of from a forensic perspective. How do we know or why would we trust if we tested these people as eyewitnesses? Why would we even think, number one, that they are written by eyewitnesses or even anybody who had access to eyewitnesses? And if you did believe that, how would you test them to see if they could pass the test? Now, once I was in, I started to look at human behavior a little bit differently. If you work murders, you are seeing people at their rawest point, the point at which all of the kind of bars are off.

I mean, this is sadly, when you get to the point where you're willing to do something crazy like this, it's probably because you've been pushed to a certain limit and your true nature is now going to be revealed. And it really, I think, exposes all of our true nature. So I wanted to write a book that just talked about, like, what are these attributes, the 15 attributes of human flourishing that I discovered in 15 separate crime stories, and then talk about, you know, is that something, number one, that, yeah, secular people, they do studies on this, and they confirm that these are 15 things that if you simply embrace these 15 principles, you will have a better life. But it turns out these are 15 ancient descriptions of human nature from scripture that people for the most part think they're discovering them in the last three decades, when in fact

these have been on the pages of the New Testament for 2,000 years. And so I really wanted to do a book where I kind of demonstrated that. That's amazing. Yeah, and why did you do a forensic investigation of Christianity in the first place? Well, I was 35, so I was probably about 1995 or 6, right in that range. It took me about 18 months, I would say,

to complete the stuff that I was so skeptical and not raised around Christians or anybody really who believed in God in a way they could articulate. So I didn't have like a leg up, like somebody who could say, hey, look at this or look at that. I had to come at it raw. And so, I bought my first Bible. I was 35 and it took me a while to kind of go through the Gospels. And I was just tearing them apart from just word usage, you know, all the attributes. I wrote about this in a book called Cold Case Christianity.

And that book just kind of covers that journey. But that's something that will get you to the point where you might believe it's true. Look, I think that as a boomer, as somebody who's older, I have a high value for whether something is true or not. And there are people in my generation who would probably agree. But I don't know that that's the case for young people, Gen Z and millennials. I think they're not as concerned about whether something's true because they've co-opted that word. That word doesn't mean it's true anymore. It means it's true for me.

That's right. It's true based on my lived experience or it's true based on how I have applied it to my life. It doesn't mean it's true for them. Now, when I use the word true, I'm using it in a more objective way. But it's true for all of us whether we like it or not i think that this generation i'm talking to now is more concerned about whether or not it's good because they believe they've been sold by the culture that christianity is the source behind every evil intent misogyny racism homophobia whatever it may be um it's really they are going to attribute to it to this traditional western culture worldview that we hold as Christians.

So, so I wanted to show that, yeah, but if you didn't believe in Christianity, you're probably already employing its teaching. If you're flourishing and, and the more you detach from his teaching, the more you're going to struggle.

So I, I just look, this is what we're seeing in culture. And so I wrote a book this time, which really looks at all of the data. So most of my books, I spend a lot of time researching. And although this book has about 50 pages in the printed edition of footnotes, there are 200 pages in the PDF file we provide online. Why? Because I want you to see that if I'm making this claim, it's supported by the data, but it turns out that that data simply supports

what was claimed in Scripture 2,000 years ago. So it's eye-opening for me to realize that our human... It makes sense, though. Think about it. If we are designed by a Creator God who knows something about us and we are in His image, then it turns out that that book we have called scripture called the Bible ought to describe us the way we really are.

Yes. And if it does describe us the way we really are, you could consider that as least I was listening to a pundit, who usually talks about politics recently, who's Jewish. And when asked, you know, when he defends why he's jewish he says well because it turns out that these principles work oh that's interesting and he sees that as an evidence that the worldview is true okay and by the way that may or may not be an evidence that your worldview is true but it strikes me that if your worldview is true

it ought to describe you the way you really are. And so in that sense, it could provide you with some insight into your human nature and how you could flourish. Yeah, it would be necessary, not necessarily sufficient, but it would be necessary for that to be true. Yeah, that's right. Exactly right. Yeah, what's the most surprising thing that you found out about human nature in investigating this? Well, so every chapter is a crime story, right? So in one of these stories, I talk about celebrity

and how sometimes when you are a local, especially in the gang cultures, if you're somebody who's known locally, you would kind of become like a celebrity in your own neighborhood or at least in your own clique or your own gang. And I've got one of these stories here to show how detrimental our pursuit of celebrity is. And the reason why I wrote that chapter is because I don't think it's just, it's not just a few of us who are seeking celebrity anymore.

I mean, there are no gatekeepers. You know this, even think about it. We are able not to develop our own personal platforms without a gatekeeper at NBC, ABC, or CBS. That used to be, or Salem, whatever the radio station was, that used to be the gatekeepers that kept people from becoming a celebrity. Those are gone. So now all of us,

if we can develop a following, we can make it from zero to a million listeners without any support. And that's where I think we have to be careful. It turns out that one of the most powerful attributes that we could adopt as humans that would change your life. As a matter of fact, if you simply embraced this virtue, you will have increased flourishing in every single metric that we use to actually measure human flourishing, longevity, mental health, physical health, the deepness of your relationships,

that improvement will improve your marriage. It'll make you a better employer a better employee you'll learn at a higher level you'll get better grades you'll make more money i mean every way that we measure flourishing improves if you simply adopt this one thing and it's really the opposite of celebrity it is the attribute we know as humility. Now, they've been studying this for about three decades and looking at all kinds of studies that are out there that talks about how humble people succeed at levels that are far higher than the rest of us and why that might be true. Okay, fine. But it turns out that humility is one of those things that I think if I asked people, hey, what do you think is the one attribute you could adopt

that would help you in every aspect of your life at a higher level than anything else? I don't think many people would come up with humility. Yeah. But it turns out, yeah, it is actually the thing we need to embrace. Now, what's interesting about that, think about every worldview that's out there. None of them leverage humility like the Christian worldview. What I mean is, if your theistic worldview, your spiritual worldview, encourages you to do these certain things to reach the highest level that your spiritual worldview offers. In other words, if it is about earning something, it's a transaction between you and God, a transaction between you and the universe.

There's no way to avoid pride in that kind of a system, because at some point you're going to look across the room and say, I'm doing better than that did. We measure based on our achievements. Right. And I have a friend who's now no longer with us named Mike Adams. Mike and I would travel and do a lot of events together. And he used to always tease, I'll write this book. How to become humble in 10 easy Easy Steps and How I Made It in Eight. It's like this. There's no way that you can pursue humility without at some point doing just the opposite and becoming prideful. So, it turns out that humility is something you,

it's an assessment. Spurgeon calls it the proper assessment of who we are before a holy God. Now, Christianity leverages this because it's the one worldview that says, no, it's not a transaction. There's nothing you can do to earn this. As a matter of fact, if whatever the highest thing you think you hope to achieve in your worldview is, we're going to give it to you. It's a free gift over here. Why? So that Paul says no one can boast. It's an antidote to pride and celebrity. It's an antidote to look what I did. It's look what's been done for me. This view requires us to begin in humility because the pit of the state, okay, there's this God and it's not me.

Well, that's a very humble position. I'm not the God of my own. I'm not the center of my own decision-making universe. Well, this begins and ends and our savior says have this add pulses have the attitude that jesus had who although he existed in the form of god did not regard equality with god a thing to be grasped but instead emptied himself taking the form of a bond servant taking the form in other words it's it's all humility start to finish and as difficult as that is for us to achieve, if we don't recognize its power in our lives, we'll never even try to submit. We'll never even begin to let go of the things that possess us. So, I just want to spend one chapter in these 15 chapters talking about the role that celebrity plays. And by the way, almost every crime you're going to, well, every crime you're going to commit is driven by these three, it's a different chapter, but these three prideful motives. It's the pursuit of money, the pursuit of sex, or the pursuit of power. Now that

pursuit of power, that's a huge category of misbehavior. And that's where celebrity fits. All of us, look, you and I both. Would we like more people to listen to what we're saying? Of course we would. So although we might protect ourselves from the pursuit of money and the pursuit of sex, knowing that that can derail us, we don't usually protect ourselves from the pursuit of celebrity. In fact, what we typically do is want to increase that area of our life so we can we'll argue oh because i want to reach more people with this divine message really yeah so we

will increase this celebrity now now here's the danger in it and this is a different chapter but there's a danger in this i have never known anyone of those three motives for misbehavior and there are only three there's not a fourth motive. There isn't. And you can discover this secularly working as a homicide detective, or you can discover this on the pages of Scripture because John writes about it in one of his letters. But the point is,

there's only three motives out there for stupid. And if you don't protect yourself from those three motives for stupid, you will eventually do one of them. Now, here's what I've noticed. If you begin to scratch one of those itches, you will eventually scratch the other two. because the other two become available to you on the basis of what you've achieved in the third. So, you see this in even Christian leaders, right, where they fall for someone. Why? Well, here's why, in my opinion. as a congregation or as your deacon board or your elder board they're trying to protect their pastors from the sex and money but everyone wants their pastor to be known more so they can build a bigger church and when you increase your celebrity you only open the door to the other two so you're

this is why it's i've struggled with this even in writing this book, because as I'm writing this book, if I'm going to heed my own advice, I have to do less of this. Because it turns out all of this, talking about a book you've written, is about you trying to amplify your platform, amplify your influence and culture. And that's, I think there's a good, by the way, all three of these things have been designed by God for his glory and for our good. We just happen to distort them. So, sex, money, and power is something that God is giving us in a positive way. This is another chapter in the book. It's a chapter about a guy who was basically homeless and was killed. And I'm thinking, what are these three motives?

What did this killer have to gain from this homeless guy who was so sweet? They called him Santa Claus because he looked like Santa Claus, and he was as sweet as Santa Claus. And what does he offer in terms of sex, money, or power that would be worthy of killing him? Well, here's what happens is that when we focus on those things that are given to us by God, instead of on the God who gave them to us, we're stopping one level short of our worship. And we all worship. Everyone worships whether you're a believer or not. There's something that you think is of utmost importance that you dare not take that from me because that's the thing that I covet.

And this idolatry is what causes us. So in this particular case, this poor guy had had slipped over they were he was recycling stuff every day he would go out spend the first half of his day picking up trash cans he's picking going through trash cans picking up recyclables then he would take him to the recycling center and get just enough money to go and he would buy alcohol and uh food in the afternoon and that was his day every day very very workmanlike and he had slipped into an area of our city that another guy who was doing the same thing felt was his alley don't be picking trash out of those two cans and although the amount of money that santa claus probably got from that was what pennies dollars maybe

it was enough so he confronted this guy he confronted santa claus and said don't be don't be doing that anymore at a recycling center. And Santa Claus kind of just blew him off. Well, it turned out in that one moment, he had triggered the two of the three things. Number one, he had disrespected him. So the idea of power, authority, respect, that's in the third category. Now I'm upset because you disrespected me in front of my peers. Two, you're taking pennies or dollars, but because I've turned both of these things, I covet them at a high level. I've now turned them into idols. You dare not try to destroy my idols. And that night he stabbed him to death over virtually nothing. This is the power of idolatry. And by the way, it's not just people you work and work in homicides. It's all of us. And so on that chapter, what I try to do in every chapter is show you, Hey,

if you're, if this is your struggle, whatever these things are, here's a way for you to address it. And in this chapter, I just ask 15 questions. Like what you want to know what your idols are. Cause we all have them.

We'll ask these 15 questions and you'll probably identify them. And then once you've identified them, you can start to actually think, okay, look, it's something that God has created rather than the God who created it. We simply have to transfer our worship up one level, just from the level where we're stopped in God's creation and back to the creator. And so, it's something that if you do it, you will flourish. You will not number one you'll protect yourself from stupid and number two you'll actually start to pursue the things

that contribute to a meaningful life and when you do that you do that with uh thankfulness because when you say when you thank god for what that is and sincerely think about what it is that god has given you you look at it as not something that you've achieved, then that does move it to the higher level. And that's helpful with that, right? Now, again, I'm skipping across a number of different chapters here, but yeah, I think you're right. I think that part of it is, is that what I've discovered, and it's true of all of us, is the least thankful people are the people who think they have nothing to be thankful for,

or the least forgiving people are the people who think they have nothing to be forgiven for. So it does turn out that a proper assessment of who you are, because it's really easy for me to think, well, everything I've got in my life, I achieved that. Yes. I am the reason for all my success, the reason for everything I've ever possessed. Okay. If that's your view, well, that kind of pride is, it doesn't lead to any more positive. That's right. Because anytime anyone challenges that that might not be the case, you're now offended. And so it turns out that whatever it is we've worshipped,

that becomes the master. The master that you dare not question. The master that I'm now willing to give up tons of time for resources for um i can say that you know i i had that early on when i was young i had a lot of success a lot of stuff very easily and i did think it was what i had done and and i gotta say it was such an amazing blessing for god to take that away from me and humble me, you know, and that's exactly what it was. And I thank God for that, uh, taking that away from me. One of the biggest blessings of my life. And you're absolutely, I think you and I as guys, we are even more prone to this because, and this is a different, this is chapter two of the book. It's an identity issue for us. I mean,

a lot of it is, is that I don't have my, as a Christian, I ought to have my identity in Christ, but, but the way we form identity, and I covered this in the book, we don't typically form it that way. What we typically do instead is we form it as men in our achievements, in what it is we've achieved. So, if I ask, you know, who are you, David? Well, you're going to say, I'm the host of the show. If you said, who are you, Jim? Well, I'm a cold case detective. Okay, is that who I am?

Look, I haven't been in a Dateline episode in three years. At some point, you need to say, okay, who are you really, Jim? And this struggle of identity is so key to how we function in the world. Because identity really exposes our forms of worship. Because I guarantee you, as men, we typically form our worship based on what we do you know identity when you study it in in the the surveys and the research on this it's inseparable from value and purpose and unfortunately a lot of us form our identity based in reverse in other words we we ask the question where am i valuable what? What am I good at? What do I have purpose in?

That's who I am. Rather than say, well, no, who am I? I want to form my value and purpose based on my identity first, not my identity based on my value and purpose. Because that's the problem. Because there's nothing but pride that comes out of forming your identity based on what you're good at. Because it's about what you're good at. Yes. of forming your identity based on what you're good at. Because it's about what you're good at. So this is, and it's the biggest one single move that leads to contentment is to reform your identity,

not based on what you can achieve, but based on what you receive from a holy God. That is amazing. When you're talking about that, you say, how do you define yourself? Is it the show that you have? Is it the book that you've written? Or is it the career that you have? it the book that you've written or is it the career that you have it makes me think back to

the austrian empire when they would have their emperors die they had these big elaborate funerals and they would take them to this amazing crypt uh actually i've been there with my family to to see this thing and it truly is amazing and they would have um as they bring the body into the crypt they would knock and the person inside would say, who goes there? And they would give all of the big political titles. He's the emperor of this and the king of that and all the rest of the stuff. I don't know him. And then they would knock again, and they'd say, who is it?

And he would give family relationships that he has. I don't know him. And then he'd knock a third time, and he'd say, a humble sinner, Franz Josef. I know him. Enter. That's kind of an interesting awesome yeah that's an that's an awesome just a word picture of what we're we're talking about here yeah no this is something that um is and i don't know how much time we have on this but let me just say i've got a friend named joe martin who's a doctor who is a philosopher and a theologian. We got plenty of time, by the way. Okay, good.

So he says that men are all about the Asians. When we have conversations, it's all about the Asians. And I think it does expose how we form identities. So for example, he would say when we meet another guy, we shake hands and we say, what do you do? First Asian is occupation. Okay, that's the first Asian. and when we're not really asking what do you do we are because of how we form identity as men we're asking who are you now as we ask that

all identity remember is comparative it's not about well how wealthy are you it's how wealthy are you compared to this guy or everybody else that That's how you know if you're wealthy. How smart are you compared to others? Sadly, identity is formed by comparing. And that's why it's so prideful, right? Because we have a tendency to say, well, I'm better over here. I'm better over there. So occupation is the first Asian.

And then when we're measuring, we're saying, okay, well, I know what that job requires in terms of education. Second Asian. Now we're saying, well, he's better educated or I'm better educated. We're measuring. Here we are in that first conversation with another guy. And by asking, what is your occupation? We're starting to measure the other Asians.

Second one is education. Third, well, we're asking, asking well i know what that makes if you're a you know a surgeon i know you're making some or if you're you know an accountant whatever it is you're measuring you know compensation that's the next station so so at some point then you're asking too how good are you at this you could be a doctor but just be a terrible doctor reputation is the next asian what are we doing here? Well, we're measuring based on, and we're assigning value based on the answers here.

And if you're a guy, if you're a cop, especially you could be somebody who's just got nothing more than a high school education. And you're working as a parole officer and you're not even making that much money. You've never tried to do anything other, but if you're six foot eight and cut like a Greek god you're still the biggest dog in the room

because now it's about intimidation the last station well so I think he's got a point it's very enlightened I'm sure that for all of us if you're not a guy you're a woman and you're listening to this then there's probably some other level of, but, but be honest, we do this all the time. And because identity is comparative, it really takes, it rears its head most notably in group gatherings where you're introducing yourself because now you're, you're getting the opportunity to compare. Well, there's, there's the danger in it. And identity becomes the thing that sadly is behind so much of our trauma and struggle. This is a separate chapter of this book, but I'll give you an example of this. We would do a lot of work now with officers through Billy Graham Association in the summer. So we're getting ready to leave in two weeks here to do the first of six weeks of counseling

for marriage resiliency for officers who have been involved in critical incidents. And now they're struggling in their marriage. And sometimes they only get there before they get a divorce. They get a divorce. They say, we're not coming. I always say, just hold on. Just try to get through this trip first before you make a decision that big. But this is the dire straits they're in.

Okay. I discovered probably three or four years ago that the thing that is the dire straits they're in okay i i discovered probably three or four years ago that the thing that is the biggest struggle for officers is especially if you're injured is identity it turns out that if you were to look at all of the trauma in your life whatever it was if it was an injury you suffered a divorce a loss of a job a child being lost whatever you lost whatever it was you suffered in the trauma, you'll see that at that same point you were suffering the trauma, you had a relatively dramatic shift in your identity. You thought of yourself as married, now you're divorced.

You see yourself differently. Identity is simply how you continuously see yourself. The self is at the issue. And every time you suffer a trauma, you suffer an identity shift. So it's interesting that trauma typically causes an identity shift, but the opposite is also true. An identity shift often causes trauma. So if you wanted to protect yourself from trauma or minimize the kind of trauma you'll experience, you need to put your identity in something that can't be shifted, stolen from you, taken from you, bruised in some way, damaged in some way. And of the three ways that we form identity, inside out, outside in, or topside down, only one of these three ways is stable enough to protect you from shifting. If you're forming your identity outside in, where you say, like, this is how the ancients did it you know i uh what this this thing outside of me existed before i was ever born and i'm just going to reach out and grab that and form my identity so it's a tribe that's the tribe i was raised in it's the it's the uh the name of

my family name it's the profession of my family i'm we're all cops so so that's like who i am okay that's outside in identity. And all of us do some of that inside out based on my desires, my preferences, even my sexual preferences. I'm going to ask you outside of me to identify me based on my innate heart's desires. Okay. That's inside out identity. Both of those are unstable because at some point your job ends. You're going to retire.

Then who are you then uh or you're going to get injured and and or your desires are going to change because your heart is fickle it's just the nature of it well then get ready to suffer some trauma in the course you're now if you formed your identity topside down where you put it in something that's transcendent and unchanging then you're going to have lows in your life of of course, but they're going to be not quite as deep because the day before you suffered the injury, you were a child of, you were in Christ that day. The day after you suffered the injury, you're still in Christ. You're still the same. God sees you the same way. Now, are you going to struggle because you're injured? Of course,

but who you are hasn't changed. And it turns out that's the thing that we struggle with the most, even in an injury. It's not so much just the pain of the injury. It's who am I now? And that's why we have to really be serious about our identity formation or we're going to find ourselves. It's about human flourishing. It really is. Yeah. And, of course, you know, it's about integrity.

And we often think about integrity as how other people perceive us or something. But it really is how you perceive yourself. Do you have that integrity? And you have that integrity if you're thinking about that from top down. This is so wise. I'm really enjoying listening to you talk about this. And I think about how unique things are right now. As you began talking about that, you said, you know, this lure of being famous or a lot of people following you, that all comes with the social media stuff.

It truly is amazing to me to see that and how that has transformed younger people. And it is such a transformational thing to think that there is some value in having a bunch of people that you don't know, you know, following you and everything. I'm going to tell you. That you're focusing on that. It's amazing. Yeah, that is something that we take for know, you know, following you and everything. No, I'm going to tell you. That you're focusing on that. It's amazing. Yeah, that is something that we take for granted, David. We take it for granted because, yes, we are now in an age, the information age has become the identity age.

Why? Because, so how do we start? If you go on our social media platforms, what's the very first thing? We have a moniker. Like, what is the public name I'm going to adopt that I want you to see me as? Second, we're going to put a bio. Now we're going to list a series of priorities, identity priorities in the bio. So all of this, then we're going to spend the next how many years on social media posting only in a way that amplifies the way I already want you to see me.

That's right. So I'm not going to reveal something of myself that violates the identity I've already established. And even if I'm not even thinking about it, my posts always expose who I am. And there were times in generations prior where you didn't know who people were in the way you know who they are now. Having access to everything we think gives people complete access to who we really are. And I think we know that if we're a public figure, and so we're careful. I never post anything about my family on social media. I stay pretty focused in that area of what it is I'm trying to communicate related to the gospel. And I just stay focused in that area of what it is I'm trying to communicate related to the gospel.

And I just stay focused on that. Now, that gives people a view of me that's not actually true. It's the view that I'm crafting for them. And we have to be aware of that. But everyone does that. I mean, I see people I follow who you think all they do is eat okay isn't it because but it's really that there's not just that we are um in some way uh forming and sharing our identity it's that we are also revealing our idols we're revealing our priorities we're revealing this stuff that we

think is so consequential so important that we are willing to um to proclaim it that's one of the ways you can you can see what your idols are ask yourself like look at your social media streams i want to know what your idols are i can kind of figure it out if you've got a social media platform yeah right that's right yeah we got a full life log that is up there and you know it's such a shallow things we're talking about with social media it's there's there so that you can glorify yourself. Isn't it interesting that in the last days, people become such lovers of self to the extent that we've never had those tools. We've never had the tools to magnify to a particular level. And I think at some point, we're going to see that this is not beneficial to our well-being.

And we're going to voluntarily pull back a little bit or we're going to reach a point in our lives where we're going to burn out on it and we're going to so you might be more active on social media at some point in your life than you are later but i i'm also trying to be very careful not to be the old guy who's just shaking his fist at the moon right because yeah i use social media as much as anybody else, but I do want us to be very practical about it. Like, look, if we're trying to protect ourselves from what causes us to do bad things, we have to have a very honest assessment of who we are. Are we, by instance, a different chapter in the book, but are we by nature, innocent, born innocent, born virtuous,

and we are corrupted by our families, by our environments, by the systems that are in place, even from government systems, is that who we are? Or is the flip true, that we are by nature fallen and depraved enough that no matter what system you put us in, we'll find a way to corrupt it, even religious systems? Which of those two things is true? We need to figure that out, because if the second is true, which has always been the claim of the Christian worldview, that we are by nature fallen, well, now we can explain certain aspects of what happens in culture,

and we can put our resources in the right direction. Look, Luther put it this way. We are so inwardly focused that we can take even things that are good and corrupt them and do them for selfish. You can even behave uber morally, but you're doing it for selfish reasons. Yeah. Even our efforts to do something godly are entirely depraved and selfish is what his claim is. This is what you find also in the modern studies about altruism like people are trying to figure out like how

could it be that someone who's uh could be a pulitzer prize winner can also kill his his spouse or her spouse how could that be how could it be that there's somebody who for the last 30 years has been an exemplar in our community the deacon at the church the doctor who delivered my babies yet 30 years ago he killed his wife how could that be there's no way he could be that duplicit is there this enigma of man has to be sorted out now what i see in the studies is that yes we we do have good examples of the altruism of humans humans are capable of great altruism they. Until it doesn't serve them personally. So in other words,

I'm usually, the studies show that humans are usually pretty generous until resources get tight. Then we start hoarding toilet paper. Well, why are we doing that? Because we are at our base nature, self-serving.

And even when we are doing good for others, it serves us in some way. That's why we're doing good for others, it serves us in some way. That's why we're doing it. We want to be seen a certain way. Very seldom do you see people who you know do good things who aren't proclaiming to you that they do good things. That's how you know they're doing good things. Well, that's because that proclamation is what they're really after. Yeah. Okay. That's the truth. If that's the case, then now we can make a proper assessment of our own condition. Number one, it causes me to know that I am not trustworthy, that I am no

different. Number one, it's leveled the field for me. So I never went into an interview once I had this realization. I never went into an interview and thought I was somehow better than the guy I was interviewing. No, I knew that we're all the same person. And, but for the grace of God, I, my buttons haven't been pushed the way that this poor guy's buttons have been pushed. Now look, this is not to, to, to, to try to elevate people who do bad behavior. I'm a, I'm a justice guy. So we're going to take care of this, but I recognize that I am just like him. We are all just like him. When you watch an episode of Dateline, I'm hoping you're not sitting there and going, yeah, what an idiot. I hope you watch it with a certain amount of

introspection and you're thinking, oh, that could easily have been me. Because that is where humility begins. It begins when you realize the proper role. By the way, if you know the fallen nature of humans, if you know that's really true, well, that also changes the way you establish systems. This is why our country was built in a way that had the kinds of checks and balances between the three arms of the federal government. Why is that there? Because the people who formed it knew you can't trust people. You can't trust humans. We are by nature fallen. If we don't have a way to check and balance each other, if we don't have a community, basically, this is why the Christian

worldview is not lived in isolation. Because this is why marriage is so, this is another chapter of the book, why marriage is so important. Because I have, I'm close enough to another human that I have given her permission to tell me where I'm wrong. I've given her permission to help shape me toward what it is God wants for me. And if you're not in a relationship with somebody who you know well enough to have given them permission to tell you what an idiot you are right now, and you don't have true friends, and you don't have the kind of relationship that'll urge you towards something better. So it turns out that those are other things that sociologists have discovered it was a chapter in here about true friendship well why because i've worked so many cases where people were killed by

somebody they thought was their true friend well so what is the nature of quality relationships what do we what what we need to kind of dig into that because it turns out that there are some relationships that, if you're listening, that you're holding right now that are hurting you, that are detrimental to your well-being. And that might, at some point, by the way, likely, the first thing I'm going to do if I'm working your homicide is I'm going to look back at all your relationships because the chances are that it's somebody you knew really well who killed you. And in the end, we have to ask the question, what am I doing wrong that I'm hanging out with somebody who I have not in some way vetted better? So I think a lot of this is important for us as Christians to say, by the way, the scripture has an antidote for that.

The Christians got great guidance for that. We just haven't been paying attention in this generation, it seems. Yeah, you have a statement. Many crime stories are centered around poor relationships. You know, not having a relationship or having a relationship that's going to, I guess, goad you into that, right? Some way. Yeah, I mean, this is why. So if you're looking at what causes, and we've got enough time, I think, here to cover this.

If you look at what is causing um uh what what really describes uh relationships that will cause you to flourish it turns out that uh studies show this one of the longest studies ever done on human happiness looked like 60 year study that was done and and and really revealed that is your relationships they're at the key the core of what causes you to feel content, to be happy, to have a satisfied life, satisfying life. But it's not just any kind of relationship. It turns out it's the kind of deep relationships that you cannot have with hundreds of people on social media. So there's three things, three things that lead to the flourishing in your relationships. Here they are. First, you need deep, committed relationships with people

you've given permission to be like a brother, to say, hey, you know what, dude, you're off the rails here. And that has to be with a small number of people. You can't have those kinds of deep, committed relationships because they require a certain amount of vulnerability and a certain amount of time. So if you're somebody who says, well, I know lots of people, I got lots of friends. Well, they're probably not then these kinds of friends. You need to have a certain amount of time. So if you're somebody who says, I know lots of people, I got lots of friends. Well, they're probably not then these kinds of friends. You need to have a small number of deeply committed relationships with third-piece virtuous people.

Now, here's the reason why. I've met lots of folks who are deeply connected to others who are not virtuous. And they're basically, they basically part of their crime family. And so you can have deep connected relationships that lead you astray because there's no virtue. Now, here's the tricky question, is what do we call virtuous?

Who gets to decide? So there's a code of ethics amongst gangsters. Is that what is virtuous? What they say is, because they would say, hey, if you offend us, we're going to come over there and kill you. That's just the code. You knew better before you did that. You should have known that was coming. Because hey if you offend us we're going to come over there and kill you that's just the code you knew better before you did that you should have known that was coming yeah because we you know that's what you're going to get and so who just gets to

decide what is righteous right or wrong virtuous who gets to decide that is it a group of people or is it a single individual or is there something that transcends all of us that it overarches all communities so it turns out that virtue is something that does require a transcendent unchanging overarching virtue giver the authority that we would actually say virtue is grounded in because if we say it's grounded in groups then get ready for all kinds of stupid and we're already seeing this because what's virtuous to even politically, what's virtuous to one side or the other is very different. Then we're arguing as if there's no transcendent overarching virtue. So this is one of those areas, your relationships, that does benefit from a worldview in which you can ground virtue objectively. There's a couple of places

where that happens in this book but this is one that's very important because we can say you tell your kids all the time but don't be handled as digital bad people who gets to decide they're bad this is now suddenly caught is going to have to cause us to think about how do we ground good and bad how do we ground righteousness and if you're going to ground it in just the opinion of people, well, that's every case I work. At some point, you have to be wiser than that. And that's why I think it's important for us to adopt the one worldview grounded in humility that provides you with an objective transcendent source for virtue. That is such great wisdom. I'm really looking forward to reading this book. And of course, it's just come out, but it is available now, right? Yes, it's available now.

And I appreciate you can learn more at the truth and true crime dot com, the truth and true crime dot com. And because I'm so sensitive to the idea that this should not be about us just building a platform and trying to sell something. What we do at that website, you'll see there's a ton of free stuff that comes with a purchase. We simply wanted to try to level that a little bit, right? So that you don't feel like you're, this is about spending money on a book. I really want to advance the causes that are in the book. And that's, that's the challenge, of course. Excellent.

Excellent book. Again, it is the truth in true crime. That's I N not and the truth in true crime.com. And I just, before you go, I know you got to go. This message is from guard Goldsmith and rock. Finney says, thank you. Both cold case.

Christianity is excellent. And in the conversation today, I'm reminded that the trap that even catches people who try to spread freedom messages or biblical messages, it seems that one must be aware of commoditizing oneself, difficult to promote one's work, even freedom or biblical work without that promotion becoming self-promoting rather than praising god that's absolutely so good so good yeah that's a

great observation he's written me before he loved uh cold case christianity which he got the the first time i interviewed you but i'm really looking forward to uh the truth and true crime and again there's a website the truth and true crimeruecrime.com. Thank you so much for joining us, sir. Excellent stuff and such wisdom. It truly is amazing. Looking forward to reading it myself. Thank you. Well, I'm indebted to you.

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