The David Knight Show - Revolution Rekindled: A Re-Declaration of Independence
Episode Date: March 25, 2025As Trump hints at rejoining Britain in Commonwealth, Barry Hinkley’s ReDeclaration.org seeks to ignite a restoration of America’s founding values—battling a bloated federal beast gobbling up lib...erties.From the Minutemen’s legacy to today, this is no mere declaration—it’s a war cry against the deep state. But are a sizable number of people who support it afraid to put they “John Hancock” on it, choosing to remain anonymous or silent?If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-show Or you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTFor 10% off supplements and books, go to RNCstore.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.
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Joining us now is Barry Hinckley.
He has a organization and website, uh, redecoration, redecoration.org.
And he's talking about a redecoration of independence.
I think it'd be good to have him on.
We just had, uh, Donald Trump is talking about rejoining Britain.
As I guess we're going to rejoin Britain.
Uh, maybe we should talk about a redecoration as a kind of appropriate
timing, but you started this quite some time ago, Tell us a little bit about it, Barry. Welcome.
Well, it's great to be with you, David. We started this in October of 23, and it's hard to think now
in March of 25. That seems like a lifetime away. Many of us have been, you know, fighting for
Many of us have been, you know, fighting for the values that made this country the great meritocracy it became in the city on the hill for many years.
I'm from New England.
My great grandfather was actually the commander of the Minutemen in Concord, Massachusetts,
my eighth grandfather.
And so I was born on April 18th, you know, the day that Prescott and Dawes and Power
of Beer rode my family's farm in Conc conquered to alert them the British were coming.
So you know, great day to be born on a significant date in our history.
So I've always been tuned into the country and its founding values.
And obviously, if you're listening to this show, you know, we've strayed a long way from
those founding values, you know, before the New Deal and certainly way after the New Deal with a massive expansion of the federal
government. So this was our attempt to point out the simple fact that our federal government is
way out of design tolerance and is gobbling up our liberties and our freedoms that we are supposed to
enjoy in this republic. And that's why we laid down these ten tenets of what we call the redeclaration of independence
to try to really persuade our elected officials in Washington to represent we the people and
not the interests of the deep state.
Well, I agree.
And of course, they talked about how the king had swarms of officers to harass our people
and to eat out their substance.
I mean, they're even killing off our egg supply now.
How do we get these people's attention?
What is it that, what approach are we going to take?
Why did you take this approach, as a matter of fact, and what are you hoping to accomplish
with redeclaration.org? Well, if you go to redeclaration.org and you read the ten tenants, we've actually been
quite surprised.
Now, we laid these tenants down in October of 23.
About 2200 people signed the Redeclaration of Independence, about 1700 of whom agreed
to have their names posted publicly as you sign, your name gets posted
publicly once we verify you're real on the website.
About 500 were so afraid of just having their name
associated with founding values that they wanted
to be anonymous and that tells you everything
you need to know.
If you live in supposedly the freest country of the world
and you're afraid to post your
name publicly for fear of retribution by the former administration, thankfully we're saying
the former administration, that tells you everything you need to know.
Our goal was to do the same thing that the first signers of the declaration did, which
is to put your name on the dotted line and sign for values that we believe will get this country
Back on track and we did that after actually I wrote I wrote it after a very inspiring speech. I heard
Tucker Carlson give at ISI in Wilmington, Delaware in October of I encourage all your listeners to look that speech up at the interscholastic
Institute Tucker gave the first speech he gave after coming out
of his retirement before he launched the Tucker Carlson Network. And we, me and a
few guys, friends, compatriots wrote this down and the goal was to get as many
people as possible to sign on the dotted line and then inspire our elected officials
to take these tenants to Washington and see if we can reverse the course of the
federal government, you know, eating our liberties alive. Oh, I agree. I agree.
There were no anonymous signers at the Declaration of Independence. Nobody put down
anon or anonymous or anything. As a matter of fact, John Hancock became famous for
writing his name so large.
He had probably the most to lose.
He was one of the wealthiest people in the US at the time.
And of course it wasn't the US, but the colonies or whatever you want to call it at the time.
And he wrote his name as big as he possibly could.
And so it became something of a legend to put your John Hancock on something.
But people are afraid to put their John Hancock on a redeclaration. What does that tell us?
Tells us how intimidated everybody has become by being branded a racist if they
disagree with you politically or whatever. You know, that is a standard
tactic. But again, you know, when we look at this and we go back into history, it
was, I looked up the date. It was Common Sense by Thomas
Paine. It came out January 10, 1776. Of course, it was July 4 that the Declaration of Independence
was put out there. So this was something that was percolating through society. Now, of course,
the Declaration of Independence was written from the top down by the elites, but there
was also Thomas Paine's common sense spread very, very quickly
throughout the colonies.
They had a very high literacy rate and people ate it up eagerly.
So there was a grassroots of support there.
So I guess my question to you is, how do you see this developing?
Do you see this developing from the grassroots, the bottom up, or is this something that is going to, is there anybody
that you can think of in Washington that is going to be aligned with even these 10 points that you
put in this shorter redeclaration? Well, interestingly, we know that it got all the way to the top,
because you know, I sent it to Tucker, who I had developed a relationship with since writing this, and
it got passed around to Vivek and other people.
Robert F. Kennedy I sent to, I also know him personally as well.
And so we know these 10 tenants made it to the top.
If you look at what's happened since we've written them and since President Trump was
sworn in in January,
they're either getting talked about or they've come true. Like the ninth tenant, I think it's the eighth or ninth,
eliminates the Department of Education.
We kind of threw that one in there
as really wishful thinking.
Well, sure enough, here we are,
the Department of Education.
Let's see how the court system addresses
this executive order.
But you know, Trump has already taken action that way.
He mentioned a balanced budget in the state of the union.
We know we have DEI out of the military, another one of our tenants.
He is pulling us out of the, you know, these globalist organizations, which is making sure
that Americans are only subject to American law, not international law. He's already taking
steps through tariffs to level the playing field for American workers. You know, he has mentioned
single day paper ballot voting. You know, our last request on that tenant is to actually
make Veterans Day have some real impact and make Veterans Day voting day, make it a national holiday the state of the union.
The reason we're doing this is to make veterans day have some
real impact and make veterans day voting day and make it a
national holiday so we can not only honor our veterans but
people can have the day off and take the whole day to vote and
not have to scramble in before or after work.
I think about six or seven of them have already been
addressed. A balanced budget amendment has not been addressed yet but has been talked about, as you know, in
his State of the Union.
So we've made an immense amount of progress with these 10 tenants since October of 23
when we published them.
And in fact, we're pleasantly surprised at how much progress we've made.
Now, you mentioned DEI and you mentioned RFK Jr. about this.
At the beginning of the program, I was talking about the new CDC appointment
that was put in by Trump, who was, you know, first there was somebody who had been a vaccine critic.
He is a medical doctor who talked about connections between autism and vaccines,
but he was essentially vetoed by a pharmaceutical senator, Republican Cassidy. And now Trump has just announced as his nomination the person who is serving as the interim CDC
head, somebody who at the CDC we see that they have now purged DEI off of their website,
which is good.
I'm glad that they're getting DEI off.
The problem is that they're still approving on an emergency use basis more vaccines and still
continuing on with the childhood vaccine schedule. But do you see that as a victory? What do you think
is really happening with RFK Jr., with HHS, with CDC, with Trump in that area? Well, you're talking
about a trillion dollar plus agency and it in battleships don't turn
on a dime.
There's a lot of work to be done and there's a massively entrenched, you know, financial
and governmental institution enforcing the status quo.
So it is not going to be easy to get America healthy again, to make America healthy again.
RFK has many foes that are highly paid to block his path.
But he said that he's okay as part of his condition
to get appointed.
He said he's okay with the vaccine schedule
that's being put out there.
And nobody is banning, not at the state level,
not at the federal level,
nobody is banning these mRNA shots.
As a matter of fact,
they're working to take it to the next level.
And the CDC director has been involved in using artificial
intelligence just like Larry Ellison who was featured by Trump with the Stargate
project a day or so after he became president talking about how they would
use artificial intelligence to custom design genetic vaccines for people. You
know I look at this and I see a massive
poisoning that is happening in our society and yet we are thinking that we've got victory
when we just get them to stop talking about this gender insanity. I don't, you know, it
seems to me like they're majoring in the minors if they're doing anything at all at this point.
Well, I just ask you to be patient because this isn't a battle. This is a war.
Yeah, what is a war? It's been going on for five years, this vaccine war, and I'm sick and tired of seeing people die from this.
Oh, it's been going on for decades, absolutely, but the Trump shots have been going on for five years,
and Trump is still pushing this mRNA poison out on people. That's the thing that concerns me about it.
So I'm not as salient as you are that there's going to be anybody in Washington that's going
to do this.
I see this as rearranging the deck chairs and trying to rebuild trust in a government
that cannot be trusted.
We never had the founders ever trusted government.
Patrick Henry said, trust no man. Bind them down with the chains of the
Constitution. And yet this entire operation of RFK Jr. and the rest of them is about building
blind trust in people who have been murdering us for money. Well, let me finish here. I guarantee
you, RFK Jr. is going to do one thing and one thing well as it relates to vaccines and taking on this massive pharmaceutical industrial complex.
He knows, you know, even Trump alluded to this in his State of Union address.
When you talk about one in 36 kids have autism now, and it used to be one in 10,000.
Okay, point, look no farther than vaccines and poisonous food.
Okay, so we're zeroing in on the targets
But what RFK will do I promise you is he will arm mothers and fathers with information
So they can make a decision to opt out of these vaccines. That will be the first step
Okay, and you know Rome wasn't built in a day when you've got five six decades of vaccines and huge massive
Multi-billion dollar complexes, you know, pushing them down doctors
throats.
If you limit the ability for doctors to make money on procedures, but, you know, incentivize
them to make money on pumping kids full of shots, guess what you're going to get?
That's going to take a long time to unwind that.
And I believe that's what's going to happen.
It's going to be first wage with information and that information will arm voters and parents with what they need to roll the stuff back and make our food and our medicine healthy again.
Well, I hope that's going to be the case.
I think that we've got enough information, quite frankly, and I think what we need is
common sense.
Yeah, you might and I might, but not enough people do.
I agree, but I don't think that a savior in Washington is going to help us.
I think what we need is some common sense and we need a spirit of independence that
is going to rise up from the bottom, not from the top down.
I don't see these people.
I see them going to Washington.
I see them going to these confirmation hearings.
They're literally selling their soul.
They are contradicting everything that they've talked about for their entire life.
They deny it in order to get the position.
And when you do that type of thing,
you don't have people of character
that can lead this country if they begin
by denying what they have said all of their life.
I just don't see that happening.
But let's talk about the Department of Education.
Now, this executive order
to get the Department of Education down,
this is something that I've not yet talked about today, but what do you see changing at the Department of Education
if they're going to continue funding from Washington?
Does it matter that we have a bureaucracy up there if they're going to send the money?
How do you view that?
Is that a real shutdown of the Department of Education if they're going to still provide the money. How do you view that? Is that a real shutdown of the Department of Education
if they're going to still provide the money? Well, once again, you're talking about
three, almost three decades worth of precedent that have to get unwound and it's not going to
happen overnight. So, I mean, they're shutting down spending it with Doge overnight in some
some areas, right? So, I mean, they could just say spending it with Doge overnight in some areas, right?
So, I mean, they could just say, we're not going to continue.
When you look at $400 million just to Columbia University, which Trump shut down because
they had protested Israeli politics, but why are they getting $400 million?
I think it's incredible.
It's the money that needs to stop, and it needs to stop just because the government doesn't
have the authority to do it.
We could have a balanced budget amendment,
but how are we going to balance that budget
if we're going to be sending Ivy League colleges hundreds
of millions of dollars a year?
I don't understand.
You're not going to find an argument for me there.
And you're certainly not going to find an argument for me
that it makes a lot of sense to send money from Ohio
to Washington just to get it back again,
knowing that people are gonna clip coupons the entire way.
I say keep it in Ohio in the first place.
I think if you follow what Trump's doing,
he's talking about eliminating income tax
for people making less than $150,000.
The byline is that money doesn't go to Washington,
it stays in the state, right? So certainly the remedy, in my opinion, is exactly the
design of the founders, which is, you know, empower the states to control their
own destiny, you know, within the formation, the foundation of our
the formation of our republic. So I think unwinding the Department of
Education is not once again an overnight
task. You have to clip away at it and eventually get rid of it because there's going to be a massive
amount of resistance. I mean, keep in mind the Department of Education is often seen as the
arbiter of elections because if you have let's say four million voters that are either employed as
teachers or related or married to a teacher or in some type of,
you know, administration role in the public school system. And you have a country tied
50 50 on elections. Those four million people decide who becomes the president. So it's
a very it's a sacred cow for the Democratic Party. They launder an immense amount of money
through union dues into their elections. They are not going to go down without a fight. And I think, you know, it's the old
saying, how do you eat an elephant? It's one bite at a time. But, you know, the Department
of Education is in our sights. And I mean the sights of true libertarians and Republicans.
And I think we will grind it down, but it's not going to happen overnight but I agree with you that you know the you know I have I spent a ton
of money for my daughter to go to George Washington University in
Washington DC and it was a giant scam. She learned more in high school than
she did in college. Yeah. She went to a very very good high school but it wasn't
worth it. Fortunately for you she it's probably good she didn't learn anything
at George Washington because they would have taught her the wrong stuff.
It's really about indoctrination more than it is about education in so many ways as you
know.
You are not wrong.
Yeah, as you know.
You are not wrong.
That's why the government wants to keep its foot in it and that's why it wants to control
the purse strings because ultimately both this government as well as subsequent Democrat
governments, Democrat-run governments governments will set the curriculum.
If they can fund it, they will define what it's going to be.
But let's talk about some of the ways that they're going to do this, for example.
We know that when they have shut down anything, they've shut down immediately.
They've had lawsuits brought against them.
And so this is, you talked about states' rights and how we have separation of powers, and
I said state rights, I meant state powers.
How we have the separation of powers and checks and balances and that type of thing.
But also within the federal government, the big issue with all of this stuff, and the
thing that I think they're going to have to address or they won't get anything done, is
going to be judicial supremacy.
If you can have judges,
and I know that they've talked about
the fact that we can't have one judge
who's going to make policy for the entire nation,
but it is through that whole
judicial supremacy thing
is going to have to be challenged along the lines, I think,
of what Andrew Jackson did
when he said the Supreme Court's made their decision,
let's see them enforce it. I think if the Trump Jackson did when he said the Supreme Court's made their decision Let's see them enforce it
I think if the Trump administration doesn't do that
None of the actions that they have taken are going to last and I don't think they're gonna be able to do any of the
Kind of cuts are restructuring that they would like to do
What do you think about that and do you think that they will directly challenge judicial supremacy?
The Trump administration, yeah, yeah. You think? Yeah, of course. I mean he's gonna fight every
step of the way and we need some precedent here. I think they pointed out that there's already been
some precedent set by the Supreme Court but their challenge, you know, they meaning, you know, the
judiciary, you know, liberal, you know, activist judges, let's be real about what's going on here,
are ignoring the precedent and throwing down roadblocks.
I think many people understand what's really going on here is they're trying to slow down
the Trump train, and they feel if they can bind this thing up in court, and these are
all derivatives from Yale Law School, Harvard Law School, and all the other massively liberal
elite law schools, they figure if they can slow the Trump train down long enough and they can somehow
pull out some type of a coup in the midterms,
they can bind this thing up and Trump won't succeed
in right sizing a republic.
I think that's the game that's getting played here
and I think they're completely ignoring what is precedent
and they're completely ignoring the law
and they're just trying to slow things down
and throw a wrench in it, if you will. I think I'm gonna fight it every step of the way and he should well
I don't know if you will and I but I you know, we've seen some that I saw a little bit of hope when
You had a judge that said you can't deport these
Criminals back to El Salvador send them to El Salvador or whatever and they did it anyway, and I thought okay
Well now that's what they need to do
But then they came back and they said but we're doing this and staying within the orders
of the judges and that type of thing.
So I still don't see the fact that they really want to fight this.
I know that in the first administration, you had Trump who was opposed, he ran opposing
DACA, but when he got there, the Deferred Action and Childhood Arrivals, when he got
there, that was not even a law that was passed by Congress.
That was an executive order by the Obama administration, not even by Obama so much as by Napolitano,
who was his attorney general.
And he abided by that when he asked permission of the judiciary and they said, no, you can't
get rid of the previous executive order from the previous administration.
It was absolutely absurd.
So I'm not really sure that they're going to do that. I hope that they do. And I think that when we talk about how one branch is exercising supremacy over any other branch, that is really
a violation of the separation of powers, as I'm sure you would agree, right?
Certainly agree. You know, and as far as it relates to Trump's first term, I think he admits he was naive and he had
a lot of the wrong people around him.
A lot of them were swamp creatures that had an interest in the status quo.
This time he's come in guns blazing.
I think a lot of people are quite happy with the pace of play here.
In fact, he's pushing the establishment way out of its
comfort zone, which is why, you know, they're hitting back, you know, so hard
because they realize it's a fight for life and death of the deep state versus
the return to our republic. I agree. Well, you know, when you talk about secure our
elections, I absolutely agree with what you have in person, single-day elections
with a valid ID. I think that is, unless we have that, I'm not voting again.
I've run for Congress, but I'm not voting again unless we've got some kind of election.
Don't worry, they'll vote for you.
Yeah, that's right.
Several times.
That's right.
In every state you've ever lived.
That's right.
I've told this story before of a friend of my brother-in-law's who went to North Carolina
where they got a very long voting period and no ID.
He shows up to the poll on election day and they said, you've already voted.
No, I haven't.
He said, yes, you and all you have to do is give them a name and an address.
You and this other person at your address.
He goes, well, that's my mother.
She's been dead for several years.
So yeah, they will vote for you.
But so we have firsthand experience with that.
Let's talk a little bit about term limits because I remember when Newt Gingrich had
his contract with America and that was one of the ten things in the contract with America.
It was the one thing that he did not pursue when he got there.
Of course, I actually even got through a line item veto and of all things it was Rudy Giuliani
who challenged that and took it to the Supreme Court and got that overturned.
But when we get to term limits, uh, do you see any sign whatsoever that
there's anybody in Congress that is interested in term limits?
Sadly, no, because it's the best job they've ever had.
And they're making it better all the time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I ran for us Senate in 2012 against Sheldon Whitehouse.
And so I know the inside of the game pretty well and these folks have the scales tipped so far towards
incumbency that the only way you ever get them out would be through term limits
because the deck is completely stacked and unless they get a photograph of you
with a little boy you're not going anywhere. So that's how you get
elected to Congress if you've got a photograph of you with a little boy. I think that's how they got it.
That's how big pharma controls you. Because they have a photograph. That's right.
But you know so we need term limits. We need it badly. You know a lot of
people talk about it's the one blind spot that the founders missed. I mean it
couldn't be perfect. They were certainly prophetic, but they weren't
perfect. And they missed this one. They never thought that people would be so selfish. And
let's face it, if you have stayed beyond your useful life, you know, Mitch McConnell, Nancy
Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, you know, read the list out, you know, Joe Biden, you know, you
are so out of touch with what the average American needs.
And you end up getting, you're trading in trillions of dollars, you have innumerable
powers and you make 175 grand a year.
That leads to corruption.
And we see it over and over again.
And I was talking to my wife last night, I was like, how did we end up in an era where the average American thinks it's okay that
you know, two years out of office, you know, politicians retire worth $175 million?
Yeah.
Like, it would have been obvious corruption, you know, 100 years ago, you know, you know,
I'm a Yankee from New England, you go, you serve, you go back.
And now we have, you know, Olympia Snow, Republican from Maine,
worth $50 million as a career senator.
How'd that happen?
So we need term limits, we need it badly.
I don't have a lot of confidence
that they'll enforce it on themselves.
Let's face it, Congress enforced term limits
on the president when they had a chance.
They didn't do it on themselves after FDR.
That's right, yeah.
Hopeful thinking.
Hopefully we'll have a true benevolent leader that gets it done.
I think part of the problem is we look, I think we've got a really good metric for the amount of
corruption that is in Washington when we look at the amount of money that's spent on the elections.
You know what? The 2000 elections you had George W. Bush spent $100 million and Al Gore spent
$70 million.
They spend more than that now on Senate and House races.
And we have so much concentration of power even in those Senate and House races because
one of the early things that was ignored in the Constitution from the very get-go was
limiting the number of people that could be represented by a
Congressman and they got rid of that and they fixed the number of
Congressman rather than fixing the maximum number of people that could be represented so that that's really kind of gotten out of hand it seems Like that is something that is right for reform as well. What do you think?
Well big concern I had as it relates to, you know, attribution of Congress, Congressmen
and women is what's happening in California, for example, where you have millions of undocumented
people.
And this was the huge, you know, miss.
And Trump challenged this, you know, in his first term when he challenged the Census Bureau counting everyone in the state and
still having that apply to how Congress is apportioned you know in the house and
he lost that in the Supreme Court and now you know I had I was living in Rhode
Island at the time Rhode Island's population was shrinking we had two
congressmen and I had and I keep mine I had run for US Senate in Rhode Island so
I knew who though it's only a million people in the state,
you know everyone in politics.
And I knew that all the hardcore leftist activists,
they were all working for the census.
They showed up at my house multiple times
trying to find people, because I had a large house,
trying to find people to add to the rolls.
I guarantee you, they counted everyone.
And beyond everyone's wildest dreams,
Rhode Island somehow held onto a congressional seat
that everyone predicted we'd lose.
So they still have, and so you know,
that's what I really am concerned about is the,
you know, is the massive amount of
illegals here in this country that are apportioned
into Congress, so think about that.
If you're taking, you're taking millions or hundreds
of thousands of people and you're giving them Congress people and then electing them to
Washington and then they can vote how taxpayer dollars are spent, that's real power and that's
what's really going on. That's what really worries me, quite frankly.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It absolutely is a government-created problem, what we have with the border and
with immigration.
Again, it remains to be seen what is going to happen with all this stuff.
It's early days and we've seen a lot of things that are moving, but as you pointed out, the
courts are coming in and shutting down all these different actions.
I think it is going to require a direct confrontation about judicial supremacy or all this stuff is just going to be playing to the fan club
and then getting overturned by the judiciary within a few months or whatever.
I think that's all going to be reversed, everything they've done.
If they don't directly attack this judicial supremacy, if they don't reestablish a separation of powers,
I don't think any of this stuff is going to work or will last. But hopefully we'll see what happens with this. And again,
the website is redeclaration.org and people can go there, take a look at the document.
And thank you for what you do. I really do appreciate you standing up and focusing on
these founding principles, Barry. And Barry Hinckley is our guest and he has set up redecoration.org. I hope that
people can see this and I hope they get the courage to sign their John Hancock
on what it is that they believe. That's one of the key things. We've got to not
run away from what we believe. Thank you so much, Barry. Appreciate it. Thank you
for putting this up and putting your name there. Appreciate that. Thank you very