The David Knight Show - Thr 28Mar24 David Knight Show UNABRIDGED

Episode Date: March 28, 2024

Guest Host Gard Goldsmith, Liberty Conspiracy on Rokfin,and on X: @GardGoldsmithGard's guests today are Glenn Jacobs and Tony ArterburnINTERVIEW Remaining Dangers from Lockdown PrecedentsThe inside story on masks, scarves, and hoodwinks. Glenn Jacobs the Mayor of Knoxville County, TN on his meeting with Deborah Birx and the lurking dangers that remain from the precedent of public health emergency powers. Was Birx the real architect of the failed policies? Did she have information the public didn't have? Follow Glenn on X or Instagram: @GlennJacobsTNINTERVIEW Tony Arterburn — Bridge Collapse and Infrastructure DeconstructionWhile Russia is building BRICS, our infrastructure, both financial and physical is being taken apartTony Arterburn, DavidKnight.goldFollow Tony on X: @TonyArterburnFind out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @[e-mail] App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

Music Using free speech to free minds. You're listening to The David Knight Show. As the clock strikes 13, we gather for The David Knight Show. I'm Gardner Goldsmith filling in for David today. And yes, we are on Rockfin if you were wondering about that. A couple minutes worth of tech work and we're rolling. Great to be here with you everyone on this Thursday, the 28th day of February 2024. Year of our Lord 2024. We're going to have a busy day today. In about 10

minutes, we'll be joined by Glenn Jacobs, of course, known for his work in the wrestling world and his work for Liberty. He's the mayor of Knox County, and he has some information to give to us about some of his experiences with the fine scarf lady, Deborah Birx, as he tells us what she offered some of the folks who were trying to manage the political system in Tennessee. Plus, we'll be joined by Tony Arterburn at 10.30 to talk about the economy and much, much more. Join us in Rockman, Rumble, and of course on David's Libertarian Twitter feed. All right. Boy, I got to say, very satisfied to be here with you.

And great cheers to you on this beautiful day in New England. It feels like old England here in New Hampshire. I'm Gardner Goldsmith filling in for David Knight today. And I want to wish David all the best as he goes through some medical tests today. And I will be filling in for David tomorrow on Good Friday. And we have a few things planned for you in the program today that sort of have a little bit to deal with the religious holiday coming up for Christians. And I welcome you to drop your comments inside the Rumble chat and the Rockfin chat. We're also broadcasting on DLive.

And yes, it took a couple of minutes. Had to do some extra work there on Rockfin just to make sure everything was rolling for you over there. So we'll check in with the chat for you and see what's happening. And feel free, don't forget to go to TheDavidKnightShow.com to find out all the ways that you can get The David Knight Show. Check out David through Wise Wolf Gold. And you can go to it's David, David Knight dot gold. Check out Wise Wolf Gold. We'll talk to Tony Arterburn about that a little bit more later in the program. Let's see what is scheduled for this day, the 28th day of March 2024.

We've got a lot planned today on the show. We'll be looking at what I typically do on my show on Liberty Conspiracy in the evenings. Don't do this for MRCTV. You might know my work from MRCTV. And thank you. I didn't even mention that at the start of the show. We're going to have a little newsflash. Quick update on the bridge collapse. Yeah, the key bridge.

I mentioned this last night on my program on Liberty Conspiracy. We've got a bridge collapse and perhaps a constitutional supply and so on and natural resources coming in, automobiles coming in in Maryland. But the immediate response from Washington, in particular, Joe Biden and a couple of congressmen, I know, amazingly, they're from Maryland. I know. Saying that the whole bridge will be reconstructed. What about insurance for the shipping company? I don't understand this. People from East Palestine are not happy about that. But as a person who understands that they swear an oath to the Constitution down there in Washington, D.C., I should note to them that there's nothing in the Constitution that gives swear an oath to the Constitution down there in Washington, D.C., I should note to them that there's nothing in the Constitution that gives them any money to rebuild a bridge or any power or any authority. And in fact, as a person who is a voluntarist, otherwise known as a libertarian anarchist, a Christian anarchist,

who believes that no person can claim authority over you. You have to give your permission. You are granted God-given natural rights and free will, so no one can impose his will on you. I often mention that even though the Constitution does supposedly give us barriers and they sign up to it, it's imposed on me, it's imposed on you. The least we can ask is for those people to fulfill their promises as they take control over us and claim that even the Constitution has authority over us, which it doesn't. Glenn Jacobs will be joining us in about five or 10 minutes or so to tell us about his experiences as they claimed a lot of power over us. And then we'll go on to homeowners and retirees and U.S. warmongers wetting themselves to Israel in Washington, D.C. And we'll be joined by Tony Arteburn-Layner in the program to talk about the economy as CBDC creeps much, much closer.

So let's check out some of the big stories that have been popping up, everybody, over the past, oh, I don't know how long, 24 hours or so. And for that, what I often do is give you a little bit of a theme for something. So right now we'll do this. This is from a little film that I did a while ago. It's about some bad guys who appeared on the news flash yes oh hello hello where Mary's parents oh well come on in fellas hold it a second Mary's parents burned to death last year wait a minute I know you guys you You're from the News Flash! I'm... Savior of the Universe! Alright everybody, what's the word Thunderbird? It is from Spinal Tap, give me some money! Stop wasting my time!

You know what I want. You know what I need. Oh, maybe you don't. Do I have to come right back out and tell you everything? Give me some money. Give me some money. Oh, man, what a wonderful film. What a wonderful film. On the drumbeat, we hit it. And let's get into it, everybody. You might have heard

that a politician who was well known for a long time, former U.S. Senator Joe Lieberman, died over the past 24 hours, died at the age of 82. According to news reports, he died from complications from a fall. That is what his family told the news. And also, a new proposal in Toronto would tax residents of Toronto over rainwater. Isn't that fun? All right. Hi, Canada.

Sorry, you don't have many places to escape to that are much freer but uh there you go uh also talking about the big story i mentioned about the key bridge uh well the ntsb released its initial black box report about the bridge and it turns out, yeah, the black box stopped recording when power went out. But that doesn't stop the lawmakers, as they call themselves, otherwise known as statute writers, because there is a profound difference in any philosophy class between statutes from the state, politicians claiming power over you and natural law given to you by God, which says that no one can claim power over you no matter how many people are in that assembly. It's not right for me to claim power over you, and it's not right for 50 people to claim power over you, but they do it. So here it is, everybody. Yes, lawmakers eye additional funding after Baltimore Bridge collapse. I know it's a shock, isn't it? Yes,

it is. There is, of course, the major, major disaster. And as David mentioned, and I thought his coverage yesterday of this was just the best that I saw of anybody yesterday. He mentioned that, the concrete down below, all that stuff is unstable. It's going to be years before they can get that thing rebuilt, clear out all the debris. And it's going to really mess up a lot of the supply chain for the Eastern Seaboard. bit off, I thought, as she claimed. She didn't show evidence. She claimed that she has these contacts and so on inside Washington. And they were telling her that this was a computer hack, that it was a sophisticated sabotage. I don't know. I don't know about that. But she made some very valid points, I thought, about the fact that the United States is going to be hurt economically by this. A lot of the food supply, sugar, cars, automobiles come into that area. And she also noted that a lot of very dangerous materials that can't go through tunnels go over this bridge,

and they're going to have to be rerouted. They will be rerouted, but it is going to mess up a lot. But as you can see on the screen, Maryland lawmakers in Congress, lawmakers, were already mulling legislation Tuesday to provide emergency funds to rebuild the, you got it, Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, which collapsed after being hit by a cargo ship. Now, one of the things that I'll bring up is, as David Crockett noted in 1830 with his not yours to give speech, they don't have any power to do that. They also are really stretching the Constitution if they can claim that they can create interstates, which, of course, the United States government did after World War II. So just a quick piece of intellectual ammunition to hopefully give to you that you can take with you.

Please remember that in their U.S. Constitution, there are only three forms of land that the United States government can control. One is territories before they can become states. Two is the 10 square mile area for the Capitol, which they decided on Washington, D.C. Hello, swamp critters. And then the third is military garrisons. Military garrisons do not include hundreds of miles of highway. I'm sorry, but that's just not part of the deal. So I understand that everybody talks about how important the infrastructure is and so on, but it's just not in the constitution. And if those people want to deal with us, honestly, they can amend the constitution to try to tell us that they have this power as they go about it. Again, they don't literally have any authority over any of us. But as far as the rules for their game goes, at least they could do that.

Right. You get up for breakfast, have the English muffin or whatever and say, please, please just let me have this. And know that I'm dealing with a little bit of honesty down there at breakfast time. But of course they have to try to cater. They have to try to make it look like they're very active. And yet, strangely enough, this is not something that Joe Biden did with East Palestine and the railroad accident that happened there. The people in East Palestine are very upset about this. And there are a number of people in East Palestine are very upset about this. And there are a number of people in Hawaii who are very upset about the way that Joe Biden came out yesterday or day before yesterday and not only claimed that he had gone across that bridge many, many times on a

train, but also mentioned that 100 percent would be repaid. Well, let's take a closer look at a little bit. I thought this was very good. This is Jim Ferguson. He's a reporter from the UK, and he noted this about the Key Bridge collapse. He says, it's even more devastating than it seems. It's an economic nuclear strike. By now, most people have seen the shocking images of the devastating collapse. And of course, indeed, it would be hard to forget the site of the cargo ship. And David made a great point, and other people at Redacted have also made this point, that the workers there were just incredibly heroic. They closed things off, they stopped that traffic, and they really minimized the number of lives lost. And I'm sure some of those people lost their lives in doing what they did.

So God bless those people. But he notes here, by now most people have seen the shocking images. Indeed, it would be hard to forget the sight of the cargo ship hitting the 1.6-mile bridge, with the bridge almost instantly crumbling on impact. What caused the cargo ship to ram into the bridge, or what was faulty in the construction of the bridge almost instantly crumbling on impact. What caused the cargo ship to ram into the bridge or what was faulty in the construction of the bridge to make it collapse so readily? Well, that's, you know, it's bridge construction there. It's, you know, you take out one of those things that is such a key component of the supports. I can understand that. However, as many users on social media platform X have noted, the ramifications are a

disaster for the U.S. infrastructure. The entire harbor was the second busiest in the mid-Atlantic, and now, thanks to this accident, it has been rendered completely inaccessible, to say nothing of the enormous traffic problems now created by the collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge. Were the conspiracy theorists on X and elsewhere onto something when they suggested that this was perhaps a deliberate act of sabotage on the part of China or another U.S. adversary? Well, I don't understand why they would do that. As of right now, probably not. And of course, I think that really pushes the China is our adversary sort of thing. So I don't know about that.

But we do know one thing. As Spinal Tap said, everybody, they said, give me some money. I'm treating you cool. I'm putting you down. But baby, I don't intend to leave empty handed. Give me some money. question is what is written in the U.S. Constitution and what they are doing there to try to cater and play favorites and even say that it is essential for the United States. And now I want to welcome my guest to talk about what he experienced. Next 10 minutes or so, we're going to be joined by Glenn Jacobs, mayor of Knox County, and a man who can relate to us his experience as the United States tried to step in and claim that they could do everything on the federal side. Even tell us what jobs were essential and what jobs were not essential.

Glenn Jacobs is with us. Hi, Glenn. How are you? And good morning. Good morning, Gard. How are you doing? I'm doing great. Welcome to the David Knight Show.

I usually see you in other forms. It was great to see you weekend before last. I really appreciate it. Great to see you. You gave us a great speech. And folks, if you're not familiar, Glenn is down in Tennessee. He also used to live up in New Hampshire. We got to know each other real well. A lot of pro-liberty themes we would discuss, have great times. And Glenn is down in Tennessee now, and he's the mayor of Knox County. And Glenn, during his speech here in New Hampshire a couple weeks ago, stopped up for the Free State Project, gave a terrific speech about some of his experiences in his position as mayor of Knox County, meeting with some of the officials from Washington. And in particular, we have Deborah Birx. Right, Glenn? Yes, sir. Quite an interesting conversation we had. Oh, yes, indeed. I happened to report from MRCTV about a couple things. One was the fact that Deborah Birx, and I'll put this on the screen for both of us. Deborah Birx admitted in Washington in April that if someone dies with a positive PCR test, they're counting it as a death from COVID, caused by COVID,

which, of course, means that no one can ever know how many people died from this virus that they said was a pandemic, but they can't say it was a pandemic. We also know that Medicare subsidized hospitals to the tune of sometimes four times what they normally would have gotten from insurance if they got people on breathing apparatuses and claimed that they had been dealing with them for COVID. You met with Deborah Birx. When was this? And tell us, tell the audience of The David Knight Show a little bit about just what she revealed to you behind closed doors, Glenn. Yeah, this was in 2020 when COVID was kind of really kicking up and she came to Tennessee. The reason for that was she was touring all the Southeastern Conference schools so she had been to Kentucky to Lexington she had been Tuscaloosa Alabama and came

here and what our media did locally is oh my gosh things are so bad that Deborah Brooks is coming well it was actually just a routine thing that she was doing going around the country telling people what to do. But nevertheless, it was not like we were having this big emergency here that required a White House intervention. It was Deborah Birx on tour. I could have got the tour scarf. Yeah, exactly. I wish I'd gotten a t-shirt. I'd have thrown it in a bonfire later. But in any case, if you're so inclined, please pick up and read a copy of Scott Atlas's book, A Plague Upon Our House, in which he lays out what was going on behind the scenes. And we all think of Fauci as being the COVID guru. Well, Fauci was the face of it, but it was really Birx who was the architect of everything going on. And recently she even admitted that, you know, this whole thing about

15 days to flatten the curve was really a Trojan horse to bring in the lockdowns and much more long-term restrictions on the American people. But when she came here, we met at the University of Tennessee in one of the big conference rooms. And there were, oh gosh, probably 20 people there. They all had PhDs and MDs with the exception of me. It's in the room. And we're all sitting there wearing masks, sitting 25 feet apart. And the ironic thing about the masks was you couldn't hear someone when they were talking. So they would take the mask off to talk. And I'm like, let's see if this is supposed to be stopping spittle from coming out and spreading through the air. That's a heck of a way to do it. Nevertheless, though, what struck me was, first of all, you know, Burks,

going back to Atlas's book, Burx did not actually have all this tremendous knowledge that was being ascribed to her. She was pulling statistics from publicly available stuff, such as reports coming from the States, even some websites. So what she was saying as authoritative knowledge was not at all. You know, and we hear these daily death counts and daily case counts. Well, the problem with that is how were they getting those from? And in many cases, they were aggregated over a certain period of time, whether it was over the past few weeks or whatever, but they report them as one day. And these were not real time statistics. And as you said, they were very flawed because the

methodology that was being used to gather those stats yeah the thing that the thing that really got me was she someone asked her what should we do here and her response was well you need to shut down your bars and restaurants especially those around campus and And to their credit, someone pointed out, well, Dr. Burks, the data shows that the virus is not spreading in bars and restaurants, which frankly, we all knew. And she replied, yes, that's true. But we have to send a message that this is a serious situation. It was a PR campaign. It was marketing. Yeah, it was theater. And that's what throughout COVID, I mean, all the mask mandates, all those things. Now we look back and we realize that, you know, the masks are ineffective. The reason that doctors wear masks in operating rooms

is not to prevent airborne viruses. It is to keep blood out of their faces and mouths and to keep the spittle out of wounds. Okay. Masks can be effective against bacteria, which are much larger than viruses. In order to have a mask, which would be effective against the virus, you have to have a respirator because you would inhibit the airflow to the point where you couldn't breathe because that's how small viruses are. But nevertheless, we were told at one point that, you know, masks were the most important thing you could do. No one knows where the six foot came from. I mean, Fauci's admitted that. I think we did get a good lesson in hygiene and hand washing. That was probably productive.

But that was maybe one of the few things that actually came out of it and of course you know just shutting down the economy and locking our kids out of schools uh I think are arguably the two biggest policy mistakes that have this country has ever made and I know around the world I was going to say Glenn I know that you fought very very hard about mandates for the kids in schools and so on. And the composition of the Tennessee government and in your county made it very difficult to sort of combat these things after you got agreements and then you had more pressures and so on. And but you really stood tall in that area trying to go against a lot of this nonsense. And it's incredible to think that Deborah Birx can be celebrated by people in the pop media as some sort of heroine when she was just deceiving people all along. And as you mentioned, you know, Scott Atlas's book is

terrific on that front. And I didn't know that, you know, back in the era of the AIDS, you know, not I won't say scare, but the initial days of AIDS, when she had found out that there was a tainted blood supply. I think I read this in Anthony Fauci's book, but I might have read it elsewhere, where she was going to have toainted blood supply and she was she was actually cited as having yelled out as they went into the emergency area for the surgery. She said, don't don't give me a blood blood transfusion. She was aware of it. And she didn't tell anybody else back before she joined up with the Trump campaign, the Trump team. It's it's amazing to see this, Glenn, and I think unfortunately so many people turn to these central authorities and they think they have this power. How was it for you, as you say, you know, you tried to stand up against the masking and so on, but the composition of the Tennessee government really made it difficult, right? Yeah, I think a lot of people were shocked to see what

was in our state laws concerning emergencies. Now it's true around the country. Here in Tennessee, Governor Bill Lee is a great guy. He's a solid person. But I think we were all pretty stunned to realize that under the emergency powers that he had been granted in legislation concerning emergencies and health care crises, that he could literally act as a dictator through his Department of Health. Now, he did not do many of the things that other governors did such as Gretchen Whitmer and Cuomo and Newsom, thank goodness. But if it had been someone else than Bill Lee sitting there, we'd have had a real problem. And, you know, that's, I think, something that everyone needs to realize is, you know,

these emergency power acts, they really need to be looked at and discussed. Judge Napolitano would talk about how the whole thing was unconstitutional, what was being done at the state level, because the Constitution guarantees a Republican form of government to the states, which means you have separation of powers, which means you have a legislature and an executive. What happened during COVID was the executive became a legislator as well through executive orders. So they're just throwing out these executive orders. In many cases, the legislature was not meeting, talking about those. It was just edicts coming down from literally little kings and petty tyrants around the country. So it really didn't make a big difference where you lived

because so much of it depended on whether your governor would act in those ways. But nevertheless, as free people, we shouldn't have to worry about that. No one should ever be able to have those powers. And, you know, I've brought this up numerous times. You know my position on the Constitution. I would prefer it if the politicians who promise they're going to operate that way, it's always over my left shoulder, I would prefer that the politicians who make their promises actually abide by it. And within it, the Constitution has the contract clause in there. So this model state health emergency

legislation that was promulgated from Johns Hopkins in the mid after after the 2001 anthrax scare and so on. And we saw this in New Hampshire when John Lynch was governor. I was on the radio in Manchester trying to warn people about this completely, completely abrogates that portion. It's an utter usurpation of the contract clause, because if I have a contract with my employer or my employees or someone who's going to come do work on my house, and all of a sudden somebody says, you got to stand six feet apart. You have to eat outside. Your employees have to wear masks. Well, that's a breach of the contract we already have. And no state legislature, it's prohibited by the constitution. No state legislature can stop the fulfillment of a privately agreed to contract.

It's also a violation. Sorry, Garb. The business shutdowns were a violation of the Fifth Amendment as well because you were depriving people of their liberty and their property without making restitution or fair market for that. So, you know, when you look at the Constitution, it does allow for things like intimate domain, but you have to compensate the taking. And in this case, it was just everybody's out of business. Your business is ruined. Oh, well, and then of course they did make the wonderful choice of printing trillions of dollars in the most expensive check that any of us got was the trillions of dollars in the most expensive

check that any of us got was the $1,300 in the federal government. But nevertheless, they were depriving people of their liberty through unconstitutional takings, as well as those stay-at-home orders, our shelter in place, clear violation of the Fourth Amendment, because the police can't just stop you because you're driving down the road or because you're walking down the street they have to have probable cause yeah in fact you're supposed to get a warrant from a judge who determines that probable cause right and in this case that's what happened that's where there's an implied right to travel freely in the fourth amendment that's where we derived that from and that was just stepped all

over you know all of a sudden you you had you couldn't leave your home and i'm thinking wow america sure has changed over the past few weeks so true and then then of course you've got the incentivization coming from the federal government handing out all the money which i think in in macrocosm and in macroscope of view view really sheds light on the apparatus that has been constructed over decades of political machinations of the government promising governors or mayors money for your highways or this. If you conform to Title nine, if you conform to this, you'll get your Medicare money, you'll get your Medicaid money, you'll get your education money. So they've constructed this this very parasitic relationship between the central government, which, of course, is now thirty five trillion dollars in debt and is accruing another trillion every hundred days. And the states, which themselves often can't balance their own budgets. And so they rely on those other people. And the whole time, not only is the value of the monetary system being depreciated with every dollar that they're spewing out there, but the actual memories of what the Constitution says

are being eroded by years and years of normalcy bias, I think. I agree with you. I was speaking with a United States Congressman pretty good guy uh and he pointed out that Constitution you know it it's a flawed document but it's the best thing that we have it's the best thing frankly it's ever been created but one of those flaws is that the federal government should never been allowed to dole money out to the states yeah and that's exactly what happens is they just bribe the states essentially with their citizens own money in any case and and the future and future progenies new money and their earnings their toil you know and and you know glenn you and i often talk about economics and you know this is

one of the things i try to mention to people that when I go into class and I ask the students to look at the early, the fundamental machines, you know, the simple machines, the lever, the wheel, the inclined plane. And I say, you know, all those things, human beings, they didn't sit down at tables and say, I'm going to invent the inclined plane, you know, cavemen used an angle so that they wouldn't need two people to lift something. One guy could push something up a ramp. Over distance, you're decreasing the amount of effort per unit, but you're increasing the number of units. So it makes it easier. Now you freed one person.

You become more efficient. That's what we're all trying to do. But the whole time they're putting out this money, they're borrowing, saying that it's helping us. It's actually destroying our inclined planes and they're making us work harder for the things that we want. It's absolutely it's crazy. It's really sad. You look at this this key bridge situation. There's a very in our face example of a number of constitutional errors and economic errors and moral errors that these people are making. Yes, it might be important for the infrastructure. Yes, it might be important for this or that. It's in Maryland. I don't live in Maryland. And they can try to make an argument

for me to say, well, we're doing what's right for you because we've got to fix that so you can get sugar and your prices won't be so high. I'm sorry, but if you're going to open up that Pandora's box, then the government can do anything to facilitate ease for me to get anything. You can't do that morally and constitutionally. As I mentioned at the start of the show, they can only have control over three forms of land, military garrisons, Washington, D.C., and territories. I don't see interstate highways as military garrisons. They're not supposed to exist, but they have been existing for decades. So I think there are a lot of lessons to be learned here, and especially from what you saw with Diver Burke's personality, person to person. You saw the face of it, and you weathered the storm, Glenn, and it's great

to see that you're still down there doing what's right. It's very difficult, I'm sure, for you to have gone through all those things and seen the problems that some of the kids experienced because of this, but you stood tall, and I appreciate that very much. Thank you, Gardner. I appreciate the kind words, and I think my one message is that folks shouldn't forget about what happened during copen and it seems like we're all so desperate to move on that we are uh and the people that that cause these enormous problems in many cases killing folks uh not deliberately but through their policies uh you know and even realizing that the most logical explanation for how this thing this coronavirus came to be in the first place uh was gain-of-function experiments that the us was helping to fund in another country uh we should

never forget those things and the people that caused this need to be held accountable because this was one of the worst political and economic disasters in American history. Wow. Well said, Glenn. I'm delighted to have you as a friend, friend. It's great to have you here. And I know you got to go, you got to do business down there. I'll look for you on Twitter. How can people follow you on Twitter, Glenn? My Twitter, or X, I guess now, but I still call it Twitter. It's at Glenn with two N's, Jacobs TN. So it's G-L-E-N-N-J-A-C-O-B-S-T-N. That's also same on Instagram. And then they can also follow me on two places on Facebook, either the Knox County Mayor Glenn Jacobs page or Jacobs for Mayor. Okay. All right. Sounds good. Well, I will talk to you again off the air, Glenn.

I hope you have a great day down there. Like I said, I might be seeing you looking around in Tennessee, and it would be great to see you again. After seeing you last week, I'm like, oh, I've got to see him again as soon as possible. And, Glenn, before we go, I'll leave you with this as you sign off. I know you've got to fly, but we'll leave with this. We'll let you go and we'll let the audience experience the wonderful Deborah Birx as she admitted something and didn't seem to realize she was admitting it. Thanks, Glenn. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks, Glenn. Take care, man. All right.

It doesn't make any sense. What'd you find find all of these books are under five bucks at thriftbooks.com i just want to for dr fauci or dr burks um can you talk about your concerns about deaths being misreported by coronavirus because of either testing or standards for how they're characterized so i think in this country we've taken a very liberal approach to mortality. And I think the reporting here has been pretty straightforward over the last five to six weeks. Prior to that, when there wasn't testing in January and February, that's a very different situation and unknown. There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let's say the virus caused you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem, some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.

Right now, we're still recording it and we'll, I mean, the great thing about having forms that come in and a form that has the ability to market as COVID-19 infection, the intent is right now that those, if someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death. Can you be sure? I mean, you hear from coroners that that's not necessarily the case. Are you sure? How can you be confident about that? And is there any concern that it skews the death? Yeah. Is there any concern? Perhaps there should have been some concern, right? Yes. And don't forget, hospitals got paid more if patients were listed as COVID-19. And kudos to USA Today for doing the fact check

back in 2020, April 2020. And of course, I'd love to get your comments. Let's hop over to Rumble and welcome everyone to the David Knight Show. I'm gardner goldsmith you might know my my work from mrc tv and i appreciate you finding uh my work online if you want to follow me it's at guard goldsmith my liberty conspiracy work i i contractually i don't advertise my liberty conspiracy work for the mrc tv the media research center people want to do work for them uh but they do let me mention my twitter handle, the X handle. So that's at guard goldsmith. And boy, it's just great to be filling in for David again, prayers for David that everything goes okay for him as he goes through some medical tests today. And over at a rumble, I saw a very key point here from, uh, calf B I think it is. Great education and points on the Constitution, but we are dealing with Marxists intentionally refusing to recognize it. Absolutely. Absolutely right.

It's very clear. And unfortunately, I think a lot of people get caught up in they hear that totemic term constitution and so on and so forth, but they don't seem to read it. They just seem to take it as, well, that's a reassurance that they're operating according to this wonderful thing that evokes memories of patriotism and things like that, July 4th and the declaration of independence and so on and so forth. They don't even know the definition of rights anymore. You know, kids are told by pop media people that people have a right to the fruits of someone else's labor. And I brought this point up before, you know, one of the greatest examples that you can give

to somebody, or at least, you know, in my, my opinion, I think an easy way to, uh, to show that people don't have positive rights to things. And by positive, I don't mean good. I mean posited by politicians, positive, positivism. They have negative rights. They have a right to be left alone. And of course, because you were granted these rights by God. Now, one of the things that is interesting is you get people saying, well, there's got to be a right to education. So this is one of the examples that I bring up to people. I'll say, well, look, the argument there is because the child is vulnerable and can't necessarily educate him or herself, they make the leap to, therefore, government's got to do it. First of all, that's ahistorical from the United States

history. As Charlotte Iserbead has pointed out, as John Taylor Gatto has pointed out, and as the person who influenced both of them, Sam Blumenfeld, my dad's friend and became my friend, Sam Blumenfeld pointed out in his book, Is Public Education Necessary? And the follow-up to it called NEA, Trojan Horse of American Education. You can look them up on YouTube, Sam Blumenfeld, B-L-U-M-E-N-F-E-L-D, or just look up Samuel Blumenfeld on education. He was also very, very good exposing the look-say method of reading, the non-phonetic teaching of reading, where they just give kids a word rather than breaking it down to phonemes. And the reason they're called phonetics is because the Phoenicians

developed the alphabet. So every sound has a symbol. It's a sound symbol system. So Sam pointed out that, of course, as you know, when Alexei de Tocqueville came over in the early 1800s, he was going to write a book about the prison system in the United States, the penal system. He was so impressed by the voluntary aid that people gave to each other, the low level of indigence in the United States and the high level of literacy that he wrote a completely different book. And he talked about the civic organizations and so on. Another very good follow-up to Democracy in America, if you want to get it, is called The Tragedy of American Compassion by Marvin Alasky. It came out probably around 1990 or so, maybe 91. It's very good. And he goes through the civic organizations, how they operated in New York on four square block areas.

And the government was not involved. It wasn't until Horace Greeley, who actually came from New Hampshire, from my town, actually, Horace Greeley, who was a newspaper editor, started to push for more welfare programs that it really started up as far as welfare stuff. Education, they started to push this in Harvard very early on in Boston as slowly but surely Unitarians started to get involved in Harvard. And originally it was a, a Protestant institution and then they, no, it was Catholic. And then they switched over to Unitarianism. And then later, I think I got this right. Yeah. Then later, um, they started to push for government run education in Boston, uh, as a way to inculcate children to become good citizens rather than actually getting educated and understanding the Bible and things like that. And there was a study

done by Charles Bullfinch, who was an architect in Boston. You can go to Bullfinch Place in Boston. He was actually in favor in 1819, I think, or so they did this study. And he was in favor of government getting involved with education. They did a survey in Boston. They found that 96 or so, 95% of the children through sixth through seventh grade. And of course, the education was much better back then were educated privately in their churches at home and people didn't want it. So they weren't able to pass these until the late 1800s. And it became particularly noticeable as a lot of Catholics came in from Ireland, and the Protestants did not want the Catholics to have their kids inculcated in their

churches. They wanted them inculcated under the state. So very interesting stuff there. And in fact, I'm going to bring up something about the Donald Trump Bible that I made a note about last night on Liberty Conspiracy. And you can watch Liberty Conspiracy every Monday through Friday. You can stream it on Rumble, on Rockfin, and on my Twitter feed, X feed, at Guard Goldsmith, 6 p.m. Eastern time, Monday through Friday. I try to make it a good news resource where we can split apart some of these news stories and derive intellectual ammunition to apply to instances similar to these stories in the future and to hand off to new generations lessons about liberty, economics, philosophy, the Constitution, and being a good neighbor, right? So the Donald Trump Bible thing, in fact,

let's just go right over to that while we're discussing it right now. You probably saw this information on David's show. And I want to make sure that I mention this because there's one facet that I brought up on the show last night. And I said, you know, I want to make sure that I Tell this to David's audience Of course, you get the Donald Trump Bible And he's working with this country singer Who did, you know, God Bless the USA It's selling for $60 I don't think it's gold-plated like the shoes

But, you know, it's not exactly the kind of thing That you need to spend $60 on There are great online versions of this. Go to Blue Letter Bible. They're excellent. They have all the different versions on there. They have a Bible quote of the day every day. And of course, you can see that Donald Trump said, happy holy week. This is the man who refused to mention which portion of the Bible was his favorite to a reporter years ago, David played that video. It was fantastic to see that reminder. I think Donald Trump is not very

familiar with the Bible, but I don't want to be too judgmental. But clearly, Donald Trump is not familiar with the U.S. Constitution. That's for darn sure. And clearly, he's not familiar with the golden rule of leaving one's neighbor alone. He seems to give that good lip service. But when it comes to things like allowing lockdowns, not stopping the lockdowns, sitting on one third of Syria without any declared war, that sort of thing, drone strikes, extrajudicial murder of people, which, of course, was almost on a parallel to Barack Obama and John Brennan. Well, not good, not good at all. One of the things I want to bring up about this, though,

as you see Donald Trump with his wonderful Bible, is that not only is it going for $60, and of course he's trying to raise his money, but he has the Pledge of Allegiance inside that. Well, the Pledge of Allegiance was written by a man named Francis Bellamy, and this is the man who was a socialist. from Fortune magazine, or you can go to the World Socialist site if you want to get more info and laugh about it in a sort of tragic way, how a socialist ended up writing the Pledge of Allegiance. Now, most people are familiar with this, right? Most people know about this. But one of the things that I think is really important is when I stopped doing the Pledge of Allegiance many, many years ago, right? And I find it interesting that people look at it almost as if it's a social pressure thing. Like, how dare you? You didn't give the pledge? Like, no, I don't pledge an allegiance to a flag.

I don't pledge an allegiance to a nation state that is imposing itself on other people. I pledge servitude and submission to God. That's what I pledge. So I don't need Donald Trump putting the Pledge of Allegiance in a Bible. It, I think, is indicative of a lot, and it shows why we ought to be very careful, or I think I ought to be very careful of any politician when they're swearing an oath to the Constitution, because they don't even understand where our rights come from, to leave a preposition dangling. It's pretty shocking to think about that. Amazing. amazing. And of course, I think one of the things that we can see here as we talk about a reminder about the hospitals getting corrupted, they've been, you know, manipulated and corrupted for years, various power sources. I hope that kids can guard themselves against the corruption

of the state coming in. I pledge allegiance to the flag and all the manna that they will give to us. Well, I mentioned a while ago that I found this squatters issue to be perhaps pertinent. And so I want to give you some information about a couple things. First is the economy. And then we're going to go into how bad the economy is for some people. And I want to talk first about the squatters issue, because I think this pertains to government claiming that they have a right to control our lives. Here's the story out of Florida. This is a positive for many people, major win for property owners as bill immediately evicting squatters passes unanimously. This just happened yesterday in Florida. So there you'll see see this is one of these little slideshow things. The new bill allows law enforcement to remove squatters a lease and it's not even from the original

owner. It's ridiculous. This change in Florida to the way that evictions used to be handled streamlines the entire process for landlords who previously were forced to maneuver through the often difficult and expensive legal process to reclaim ownership of their properties. Okay. Now, one of the things that I do want to bring up, however, though, is functionally people might look at this and say, okay, the government is doing something here to try to fix this problem about landowners and so on. But as a voluntarist, I have to mention the only way that the government can exist is by the government taking money from people. So even the law enforcement agency of government is predicated on government telling people you've got to pay for it. Now, philosophically, when I'm in a philosophy class and I'm teaching

political philosophy to students, I will show them John Locke and his Second Treatise of Government, which was written in 1670, actually didn't have his name on it when it was first written because the Scottish Rebellion was really hot and the papal plot stuff was going on between the Catholics and the Protestants. So there was a big question as to whether or not the next king will be Catholic or Protestant. There was Charles, there was James. And then, of course, you had William of Orange come in later, later after that with the Protestant Revolution. So, no, Reformation. So what's interesting about that is John Locke is often called, many interesting things, Locke is often called a natural rights theorist. And most of the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, they're based on the philosophy of John Locke, which was derived and then expanded upon from works from Thomas

Aquinas and going back to Aristotle. So if you look at even Socrates, so we'll go back to Socrates real quick. If you look at the Crito, the book of Plato claiming that this is what Socrates experienced and said, when Socrates was arrested by the authorities and they said, you are not conforming with the polytheist religion that we have, and you are stirring up trouble with your peripatetic teachings. So you can either, we're going to give you the false choice, the Hegelian dialectic of you can either have us kill you or you can drink hemlock. So they sentence him to death, right? You can be searched or you can be scanned at the airport, right? False choices. Okay. So they do this and then he's waiting, he's in prison,

his friend Credo comes in and he says, look, Socrates, you have said in the past, essentially Lex Mala, non-Mala, bad law is no law, right? So why don't you just leave? And so Socrates said, no, I can't do that. Yes, I agree that bad law, you can resist bad law. But Socrates said, the state is like a parent. Now, remember, these were smaller city states. So it wasn't exactly like the hegemonic giant state system that we have here of nation-states. That started to grow in the late 1800s, mid-1800s, happened in Italy, as David Knight has brought up, around the same time as the Civil War here, where the smaller city-states and fiefdoms and so on that, you know, had existed in the Middle Ages, the remnants of those formed up into the nation-state of Italy. Prior to that,

they were all separate city-states. But it's interesting because he said it's like a parrot. It provides us with safety and security and so on and so forth. So he didn't dig down either, because the only way the state can exist is by where Thomas Aquinas went. He said, legitimate state is for your protection and so on and so forth. You have a right to resist, but not to not comply with peaceful noncompliance, but not to revolt. And that was essentially what Socrates said. I cannot comply to their laws, but if I get in trouble, I have to comply with the punishment. And in this case, it's death, which of course is illogical because, and Credo should have said this, but of course, they offer straw man arguments inside most of Plato's writings about political philosophy. It's almost always, you've got a really weak person arguing with Socrates, you know, so Socrates just rolls over him like a steamroller.

But, you know, anybody with any acumen would have said, well, wait a minute, you're already saying that you can resist these statutes, these laws of these people that they're promulgating. Well, now they've just promulgated another one for you to die. So why don't you resist that? But they didn't draw out, they didn't bring it to the root. They didn't get radical and get to the radius of it, to the radii of it. So Thomas Aquinas did the same sort of thing. John Locke actually brought it one step further. He said that the state is there to provide protection for your natural rights. If it starts to trample those natural rights, you have a right now not just to peacefully not comply, but you have a right to rebellion to protect your natural rights. But inherent and wound into Locke's theory that people claim is a natural rights support pillar, sort of like the bridge down there, is actually what's called the social contract theory. So Socrates was a social contract theorist,

and Thomas Aquinas was, and probably the most famous exponent of that was the writer of Leviathan, Hobbes, where he said, you have to have a giant city-state, and you can't question it. Rousseau was the same sort of person. It was social contract theory, which is again a canard because you can only have a contract in real society. Society is apart from the state. Society is the set of traditions and obligations that we come up with with each other through peaceful interaction. That's society. The state always is parasitic off of society, always draws from society. It's the only way it can exist. If somebody voluntarily gives money don't want to be included that's how it becomes a state whether it's a monarchy or an empire or any other thing there's a form of tyranny in there somewhere rule the majority so-called democracy that they tell us again tyrannical it's uh as

people have often said and james bovard most recently recoined it's two wolves and a sheep arguing over what's going to be for dinner, right? So Locke errantly said that people have natural rights. They come out of the so-called state of nature where people could prey on each other. He just assumes that without a state, people won't come up with their own rules, which is what we do all the time in society, right? That's where the British common law comes from, from societal iterations, interactions. That's where the Irish Brehon law system comes from. The Brehon law system was not a taxing system. They had societal agreements. That's what the tribes did in Exodus before they asked for a king. They had the families, the elders would be the adjudicators, and they had inter-tribe relationships without that political polis rule. John Locke actually is not a natural rights theorist.

He actually gives an excuse for the creation of the polis, and that is inexcusable philosophically. He says, out of the state of nature, every man has rights out of the state of nature, which he thinks is going to be chaotic. He doesn't think people can come up with their own rules and judgments and things like that. He says men form a government to protect their rights. So the first logical question is, well, if the state of nature is so chaotic and they can't come up with their own rules for interaction, how can they then somehow become non-chaotic and smooth and come up with the

ideas for the state? If they can't come up with ideas that are voluntary, then how can they voluntarily come to an agreement about the state? You're negating your own argument. It's a QED, right? But I mean, the whole thing is completely fallacious. Right. I used to be a big fan of John Locke. And when you really break it down, even to give him a sense of kindness, he was wrong. He was 100 percent wrong. So then you say, OK,, assuming that it's all men. But if it's all men, then it's not a state because it's a voluntary interaction. You're right back to the state of nature, right? Then he says, of course, it's for their protection. And then he says, no man should be deprived of the fruits of his labor. Literally, I'm quoting from the second treatise of government. No man should be deprived of the fruits of his labor without his consent I'm quoting from the second treatise of government. No man should be deprived of the fruits of his labor without his consent. And then in the next sentence, he says,

and by his consent, I mean the consent of the majority. It's like, oh no. I said to many people in class, like he needed a good editor, somebody to talk to. Like, John, hold it. Wait, stop. Timeout, timeout. Where's the whistle? We're going to get a 20-second timeout. We've got to reconvene the team here. We're going to get Larry Bird to throw a three-pointer. Oh, just really bad. Not good, right? But they have accepted this concept, and that is at the root of the problems here in the United States, because they accept the fallacy that the government has a legitimate claim over you. You can have governance without government, without the state, I should say, without the polis, because the polis imposes itself on people. So the very nature of the polis is that it can demand your property for your protection, right?

And the more it does this, the more things it will claim are for your protection, whether it's for a bridge, whether it's for COVID-19, whatever it might be, they'll say it's for your protection. We need your money. Now, this property thing, to get back to the squatters thing, the nugget that I would just like to suggest to people, and it doesn't mean that I'm trying to exhort people to oppose this in Florida. I'm just saying that there's a lesson here that however far people want to go towards recognizing the validity of the anarchist argument, the voluntarist argument. Philosophically, it's irrefutable, okay? It's just, again, it's axiomatic. You can't get around this truth, okay? Government is imposed by force. That's what it is. It's a gang of thieves, and they give you these arguments, right? But one of the things I would like to remind people about this squatter story out of Florida is it looks like it's a positive for people.

Right. And last night on my show, I won't show the whole thing, but I showed a terrific five minute video from John Stossel. And, you know, I agree with Stossel about 90, 95 percent of the time. Sometimes I disagree with him, but, you know, very, very good for a lot of pro liberty things. And he's been around for a long time. Met him. Really nice guy. Really nice guy. And so you got to say it twice uh but um the thing about this is that for any action where people want their so called property protected by the police it means that the police the state is going to be threatening somebody else's property so as good as this seems to be, consequentially, morally, it still relies on the state policing canard of it exists to protect you. How much? Does a taxpayer who pays 10 times more than the other person, does he get 10 times more policing? And obviously we know that police, when seconds count, are just minutes away. Right. So a lot of this practically doesn't work.

And the person on hand should be figuring these things out. But also the moral, the immoral imposition of an assumption. I can't make that assumption. That's why I've turned away from all forms of the state. I don't vote for people to go into offices. I admire people if they're trying to do the right thing and reduce the size of government, but I still have some qualms sometimes, you know, Thomas Massey, Glenn doing great work, right? How does it work? Will they, would I feel more comfortable if, you know, say Donald Trump wasn't taking a salary? I thought that was good. You know, I disagreed with so many things that I thought were just deplorable, immoral, terrible, unconstitutional. So when I look at stories,

I look at the constitution, I look at constitutions of states and the federal government, and I say, okay, what can I pull from this? And then I say, how does it reflect on my philosophy? How does it reflect on my morals that I won't tell my neighbor that you have to pay for my protection? Right. So this assumption that the police force is the foundation, the one thing that the state should be providing policing for your protection for your property and your rights, so-called. Well, that's got a tautology mixed into it. It's a QED because it breaches your rights in order to provide the so-called protection. And here it breaches someone else's rights now to have the police force and the court system manage this battle against squatters. And people can say, yeah, but the other person who's being taxed, who might not be the owner of the property now, might be the owner in the future.

I can't make that assumption for that person. I can't say, yeah, I know you'd rather hold on to your money and give it to your mother who has cancer or something like that. But I know that maybe down the line, you might have a squatter problem too. So this is for your good. I'm saying it is. Again, can't do it. It's not right. It's just not right. So this is a very good story, but I think it's a problem when we look at it philosophically. Now, how that can be resolved in a non-governmental way, again, if you want to look at it historically, whether people think it's practicable now, I don't know, but look at Brehan Law. Kevin Flanagan does great, great work on the Brehon Law channel on YouTube, going back to ancient Ireland before the Brits invaded around 700 A.D. Excellent stuff. And Viking Age Iceland with the Goddard system.

Absolutely stellar information from people like David Friedman, Milton Friedman's son. Awesome, awesome stuff. And so just check that out if you get an opportunity. A lot of really good people like Murray Rothbard, the economist have written about this. And of course, one of the things, when you get down to the practical side of it is valuation that goes towards economics. And I think tomorrow Jacob Hornberger will be joining us and he has a lot of great things to talk about from future freedom foundation. That'll be on David's show, on this show tomorrow, not on my show, on 6 o'clock show for Liberty Conspiracy, but tomorrow

at 9 o'clock between 9 and noon, probably around 10 a.m. or so, I think. We'll see. But one of the other things about this is that unless you allow people to choose where they want to spend their money, you can't tell what people value, right? So I often say, when they talk about the border, first of all, I've mentioned this on David's show before, so I'll be very brief about it, but there is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that says anything about immigration. It says something about naturalization. It was an 1875 Supreme Court ruling in this case called Chi-Lung v. Freeman out of a California statute that was going to block Chinese immigrants that it went to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court just invented

it like Roe v. Wade. Oh, it's a federal purview. It's not. State of Texas has an immigration bureau in its state constitution that they accepted in 1869. Very clearly, it's not a federal purview. And this is where everybody battles. So there are two things that happen when you collectivize things. First, you negate the ability of the individual to express his valuation in an economic way. So we have the moral tied to it. Then we've got the economic tied to it. The economics and the morals really are the same. It's the golden rule, Right. So if you don't allow your neighbor to decide how he or she wants to spend his or her money and you say, I think that this is important to police against squatters or to police the border or whatever it is, it's the same thing as for any other product or service. You don't know how much of it that person wanted. You don't know whether

those resources are being spent the way that person wanted the resources spent. And therefore, you can't apply a proper price system here. So you can't apply a price to that service or unit. You're either going to get too much or too little of it. And of course, then you start mixing politics in and it gets a complete mess. The people who can gain the system will get a lot more of it. Right. They'll get the gravy. Right. So it's the same thing with the border. Right. The so-called border. It's multiple borders. Right. In Texas and Nevada and Mexico, you say to yourself, there literally is no logical know, that canard, that fallacious nonsense. Well, again, it's all false. You literally cannot make a tie between the spending of the money and any particular individual having a choice. And only through choice can you do something. These are all just standard laws of practice of, you know, anybody who's dealing with logic and the definition of words. But unfortunately, people get so sentimentally tied to these things that they think, well, this is a big story. This squatting thing is a big one, right?

Well, I want to turn to something on Twitter slash X that I think you might find valuable. This is from my Liberty Conspiracy show from last week. I made a little 10-minute presentation about this. It's 11 minutes, and I think you might find this interesting. It's about the ultimate squatter. So let me show this to you and see if you might find this interesting. It's about the ultimate squatter. So let me show this to you and see if you might find this interesting. And here we go. Last month, the homeowner had a tense standoff with the reported squatters after she had met with a news crew for an interview outside the home to discuss the crime. One of the reported squatters appeared outside during the interview and left the home's front door open. Andalero and the news crew entered the house where they found one of the alleged squatters asleep and some of Andalero's personal belongings still in the house. You probably have seen it. This is proving everything I said. This is my furniture. These are my curtains, Andalero

said on camera to ABC7 as she entered the home. Who are you, sir? Get out of my house. She was seen telling a sleeping man in one of the rooms of the house. The men reportedly called 911. And as you saw, and on Anderlero, as she called a locksmith to come over and change the locks. And of course, the cops took her away. Yeah. So there you go. Got to do that. Got to make sure, even though she showed them that she had the deed to the place.

It's amazing. Just amazing. She showed them proof of ownership. They wouldn't listen to her and they took her away and left the squatters there. Now, if anybody's mind is going to, as I mentioned, this whole immigration thing, we're going to hit on that Texas issue. That is the one that's actually breaking constantly over the past couple days it's permutating give us some interesting information on that we'll get the first flash flash information then we'll dig down a little deeper into this thing but in addition to that one of the things i want to mention to sort of dig down on the next

levels on this and participate with you is this uh you've got public places now that people thought were designed and that they had raised the money to create for a particular purpose, like the school in New York, where they took the kids out of the school to bring in the emergency, illegal alien, migrant, whatever, the people who are getting subsidized by the federal government to to come here and uh the federal government is now paying for them to have thousand dollar debit cards ten thousand dollar debit cards in new york so like i said just pretend you have a foreign language go over there and perhaps you too can get the ten thousand dollar debit card and then they move these people during the storm a few weeks ago, a couple months ago now, into a school in Brooklyn.

And a woman was not too happy about that. In Boston, they were housing them at Logan Airport, you know, because national security, TSA, very important to make sure that, you know, people have to show all their IDs, got to be biometric. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. No, if you pretend you're from a foreign country and don't have any ID, then you'll get it from other taxpayers from other states because the governor of Massachusetts, Maura Healey, loves you so much that she wants to make sure that you will pay and other people from, oh, I don't know, Hawaii will pay. Yeah, that sort of thing. So it's all great. It's all collectivism. And of course, since collectivism never actually operates because it doesn't actually allow people to determine what they find valuable and where

they want to spend their money to reveal their preferences so the market can cater to those things. They just subsidize what they want politically, of course. Well, since that happens and it always fails, it has to keep expanding. So welcome Hawaii to Massachusetts. Glad you could be part of Logan Airport. So since that time, of course, people are saying, isn't that almost, maybe they're not saying it, but I'm pretending they're saying it, isn't that almost like a form of public squatting? How do we handle that? You're literally moving homeless people into Logan Airport, and you're inviting, you're paying, you're buying homeless people from outside the United States. Now, again, I'm a libertarian anarchist. I'm a voluntarist. As I've stated before, philosophically and logically, a politically determined barrier

is not a determined barrier. It's an imposed wall or a line in the sand that they have drawn politically that actually is impossible to say actually shows that anybody wants that barrier there because the politicians aren't spending their own money on it and the people who are forced to pay for it they might all have different opinions and of course they're going to take private property to put it up there the other part of it is the part i'm going to get into in more detail in a little while on the immigration front which is of course that the word immigration doesn't appear in the U.S. Constitution. So we'll go into that and describe how that fact has brought about a massive, massive on-the-ground battle in Texas,

something that I could kind of figure was going to be coming when I gave lectures on how it's not a federal purview, it's a state purview. I could see this conflict between the southern states and the feds, you you know members of southern legislatures residents they're getting upset because the feds weren't handling it right and then finally maybe thinking that they might finally recognize what's actually written in the constitution and what the courts have done over the years to usurp that and blur the lines on things to put it into federal hands the more dissatisfied people became on the state level the more i things to put it into federal hands. The more dissatisfied people became on the state level, the more I started to think there's a chance that people might actually start

to recognize the argument that I've been putting forward for, I don't know, like 10 years or more. So we'll get into the details on that a little bit more. But on the squatting issue, I think this issue in Queens does open up this question to people of, hey, am I not being forced to pay for somebody else to be housed somewhere now? Isn't that sort of like the woman who owns the property in Queens and now her property and she's paying taxes on it? She paid the upkeep. She paid for the place. She's got the mortgage on the place. She's paying for it. Somebody's got the mortgage on the place. She's paying for it. Somebody else is living there on her dime. Isn't that what they're doing at Logan Airport?

Isn't that what they're doing all over the place? Whether it's a $10,000 debit card in New York or it's people getting free housing in Logan Airport. And the amazing thing that Howie Carr, the radio host, brought up, and he's on at 3 o'clock in the afternoons on like 150 stations but based around Boston Howie's been a long-term journalist in the Boston area and he noted you know they opened up this children's recreation center that of course they took tax money to build and they said oh this is going to be good for kids in the winter they'll be able to you know play basketball and do running and inside and so on and so forth be Be a good place for kids to come. That was their argument. Of course, as an anarchist, I say, how can you morally justify telling somebody, even if it sounds good, that you're going to forcibly make them pay for it?

If you think it's a good idea, open up a charitable organization, try to start it that way or start a business and see if you can make a go of it. Get advertising. Say, we want to start this thing for kids. They don't do that because they put out the artifice, of course, that it's for the vulnerable kids, the underprivileged kids. And yet kids, you like kids. Who doesn't like kids? Well, a lot of people don't like kids. Evidently, the way they treat future generations in so many ways, not only making them dead slaves, but who doesn't feel some sort of affection for thinking, okay, let's do something good for kids,

right? But that's not doing good for kids. You can't do good for the kids without doing wrong against somebody else when you're doing it through the polis. And that's just axiomatic. You can't escape it, right? So they moved the original batch of people from Logan into this place in Roxbury, a very downtrodden area of Boston near Southie and stuff like that. And of course, since I said they moved the first batch, they've now they said that they were doing it to clear people out of Logan Airport, clean things up at Logan. No, they just replaced him with more that they shipped in, thanks to Alejandro Mayorkas and Maura Healy, right? Can you say her name the way you say Alejandro Mayorkas' name? Maura Healy. I guess it's not quite the same. So those things being stated, I think there is that argument about squatting, but I think there's a greater argument about squatting, okay? This just goes towards the complete utter lack of respect for private property. Now, since I didn't get to do the show last night, I didn't get to

talk about this issue. So I had a few things saved up, a few things reserved that I want to express to you. Get your feedback on these in the next break here. And then I obviously know that David Knight yesterday spoke about this and did a fantastic job. So well-researched, so area, you know, just terrific, you know, very, very honest about what he says and knowledgeable. Well, he had on his Twitter slash X feed about 24 hours ago that he posted this squatter stealing homes homes. When laws don't matter, neither do deeds. It's not only New York. Just like illegal immigration, government won't do anything about people who trespass or take over your home.

And you'll see here over on his Twitter slash X, he has the zero hedge version of this story. There's the owner of the property there. I'm gonna raise that up a little bit. And he started off, did a great job covering this. He has the zero hedge version of this story. There's the owner of the property there. I'm going to raise that up a little bit. And he started off, did a great job covering this. One of the things that I brought up is this, and this is sort of the final point I want to make. Now, if you're watching, you probably already saw a glimpse of it.

But if you're listening in audio, this is what I wrote. I said, and it's not a response to David. It's just a general statement, and I think it's a truism. The state is the ultimate squatter over all of us and our God-given natural rights to ourselves, our property, the fruits of our labor, our freedom of choice, freedom of contract, freedom of association association and speech. Flurries of so-called emergencies and fancies of their personal utopias and new phases of fascism and new modes of fear-mongering all claim residence in our lives, plans, and souls. Resistance is ordained. Let's have resistance rather than government residence. And that is what it is. Once they make the argument that the state can command you to pay for the state for your own protection, well, they're squatting in your life. I think that's irrefutable. I think it's slightly philosophical. I think it puts a little twist on some of these squatting stories,

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Well, you know, talking about friends, I'm reminded of a song called Friends, Friends, Friends by Johnny Whitaker. This is a situation where I don't think that the California homeowners are seeing that they have a lot of friends. Now, if you follow my work at MRCTV, you probably know that I've written numerous articles about how government claim over land, which they're not supposed to do, whether it's a national monument, like the Grand Escalante National Monument that Bill Clinton created and suddenly took up most of the anthracite that was in that two or three state area, Nevada, Arizona area. And suddenly, all of a sudden, the Lippo group, which had highly supported him to run for president, they became the owners of the largest portion

of clean burning anthracite. I know, it's crazy. I don't know how that works. It's amazing. It's just like, wow, what a stroke of luck. Lippo group, way to go. John Wong and all that stuff. They used to have the Lippo Banks just outside of LA.

They're all gone, I think, now. But none of those things are constitutional. ANWR, none of it. And so one of the things that I have tied into some of that writing in MRCTV is the fact that when you look at the California wildfires, and they actually got pretty much a tacit admission of this from PG&E. And this was before the fire that started in Lahaina, all these things. I was writing about how these power companies run their power lines over government run land. Now there had already been a lot of people who talked about how the government has no incentive to husband the land. And I mentioned before, when I was leaving Vancouver,

I was working at a TV show up in Vancouver and driving across out of Seattle. I met a guy who was repairing my car. He said, you want to see an interesting thing? Look on the north side of Snow Squalmy Pass. You'll see the highway runs east-west. On the north side, you'll see the land that east-west. On the north side, you'll see the land that's run by Weyerhaeuser. They selectively cut. They have a vested interest in

it. They want to keep it running. They have a long-term investment, and they don't want soil erosion. And then look at the south side. That's owned by the government. It's rented out. And of course, you get massive soil erosion depletion, and it's the tragedy of the commons. The first people who can get in on the government run thing that's commonly run, they'll take everything that they can get from it and they don't want to leave anything and it's not husbanded. So it's just the way that private property is superior in consequence, not just the moral part of it, that's the key, but in consequence, it also turns out to

be run in a superior way because individuals are protecting their own interests and trying to do right by their consumers. So if you've got a free market, the person dealing with things has to husband things and has to cater to the consumer. Well, when you don't have a free market, you don't have private property incentives, you get things like the California wildfires. So one of the first times I was writing an article for MRCTV about the California wildfires, I happened to have a friend who lost his home in Napa. Literally, they had seven minutes. He wrote a book called Seven Minutes to escape their house. And he said they were driving down the road and the embers, they had a tailwind

coming on. The embers, they were going 70 miles an hour and the embers were flying faster than the car. They were going ahead of the car. It was like reverse warp speed, you might say, right? So, well, it turns out I was looking at another one of the fires and I was on one of the California TV websites and they had real time footage of the fires where they were starting. I said, oh man, of course, these fires are PG&E, that's Pacific Gas and Electric, and they run their lines over government Lahina. They did it for another power thing. I think it was in Oklahoma. They had a fire there that was massive. And even PG&E later, after a couple of the massive wildfires just a couple years ago, said, we're going to do selective brownouts or blackouts and shut down the power in certain areas to resist fire threats. Because they know that sparks slop off these things. They can touch stuff and boom, stuff goes and fires start. So now, as David mentioned on his show, when he was here a couple

of days ago yesterday, California homeowners face an insurance risk. Now, I've already written about this over at my Substack, and you can check out the Gardner Goldsmith Substack weeks ago in my Sunday News Assembly. Every Sunday, I put out at least 20 stories that are pertinent to liberty, economics, philosophy, split those things open, get the lessons from them, give them to our kids, that sort of thing. Well, State Farm is stopping new applications. They're not accepting new applications for homeowners in California. They stopped last May due to increased wildfire risk. And also you've got USAA. They're not issuing policies anymore. Starting July 2nd, State Farmers no longer cover 30,000 homes and 42,000 apartments. So they stopped issuing and now they're no longer going to renew 72,000 of the people who had been holding on to them.

Then you've got the Hartford and Allstate. They're all leaving California. Why? Because of fire risk. Quote, the decision was not made lightly and only after careful analysis of State Farm General's financial health, which continues to be impacted by inflation, catastrophe exposure, reinsurance costs and limitations of working within decades old insurance regulations. Now, in this article, they blame, of course, the climate canard. And we'll get to that in a little bit when we have an opportunity either today or, to talk about Al Gore coming back now. I thought Al Gore had handed over the reins of Climate King to John Kerry, who, of course, was a big hero for everything he does. John Kerry, hello. Do you like me? I'm a hero. Yeah, I threw away my medals. Really, your medals are up on the wall.

Oh, did I say medals? I meant ribbons. The same thing. The ribbons, they travel just as far when you throw them. I've got a good arm. Strong, strong arm. I mentioned on my Liberty Conspiracy, strong like ox. But wait a minute, that's methane. Oh, that's terrible. Strong like something that doesn't emit methane. Strong like that. John Kerry, hero. Well, now Al Gore is coming back. We'll talk about that. But I do want to mention that the situation for California homeowners is really getting bad. The economy, of course, is not going to be doing very well for people in California in particular. But for many of us, and we'll show you a little bit of this later on, there's new information coming out. Pete St. Onge, economist for the Heritage Foundation,

mentioned that Social Security and Medicare are now underfunded by $175 trillion, because of course it's a sponzy scheme. We'll talk about that probably in the 11 o'clock hour. What comes to roughly $1.4 million per American household. So what's one of the big things they're going to be doing as this economic collapse approaches? Well, of course, they want to switch everybody over to CBDC. And you can see here, Reclaim the Net, Swift completes the second phase of sandbox testing for its CBDC interlinking. That is not good. It's coming. They want to control your ability to be able to make deals, to be able to transact with other people, and of course, to be able to hide what they've been doing for so long, undercutting your ability to be able to survive in certain areas. Just like the California politicians tried to hide the fact that PG&E could have been responsible for those fires, the government continues to try to hide the fact that they are burning up your earnings. Let's turn to a man who knows a lot about that. He is Tony Arteburn of Wise Wolf Gold and Silver Exchange. Tony, thanks for joining us. As I get to fill in for David Knight, as you have, welcome to the program, compadre from the Soviet of New Hampshire to you. How are you?

It's good to see you, Garth. Yeah, it's good to see you too, man. Great to see you. You look fantastic. Are you at the Texas office or are you in Missouri right now? I'm at my Texas office and I was going to click on the link today and bring in my actual studio, but nothing works. Surprisingly, I couldn't log in with my normal equipment. So we're talking through my phone. Are you kidding? It sounds great. You look phenomenal. Hey, good. It's working out then. And yeah, so let's talk about SWIFT. What does that stand for? It's the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunications. It's the backbone of the Western financial reconciliation system. And it's been weaponized over the last many decades.

And that is blowing back on us. That's why you see the emergence of the BRICS nations and now BRICS Plus, and you've added Saudi Arabia. They have 25 other countries in the periphery that are applying for membership. I don't think people realize, Guard, the historical gravity of the situation that we're in. And I want to bring people back to 1985. One of my favorite movies is Rocky IV. I think there's a lot of life lessons in that movie. It's philosophy, and it's just probably America at its best you

know like that's that's the america i grew up in i was born at the end of 1979 so this is like right smack dab in the middle of the of the reagan era you know and it's morning in america let's go back to 1985 they make you know rocky fours that were stallone goes and fights the russian on christmas right and if you And if you're in the theater in 1985, and you're looking at this, what Reagan called the evil empire, he only said it one time about the Soviet Union, he called it the evil empire. And it's the mighty Soviet Union. I mean, they were first in space, they had nuclear submarines, ICBMs. And it was a death struggle between what we perceived as capitalism and free markets in the West and godless communism. So in that theater in 85,

it looks like, wow, that's a real struggle. And we've got to, you know, this is going to be a generational struggle. But if you were told, hey, this thing that you're watching, and this is such a huge event, and the Soviet Union is so powerful, but in five years, it'll be gone. It'll just be gone off the face of the earth, and it won't exist anymore, and their currency won't exist anymore, and they can't project geopolitical power anymore, and they're going to break into 16 pieces. It would have seemed like the prognostications of a crazy person. Yeah, so true. Right.

But that's what we're, so this is kind of where we are now, Gard, is like our financial system and what we've come to understand as reality when it comes to our society and economics is all changing, but it's changing in these weird ways. Like you're mentioning that the SWIFT system is creating their own central bank. This is all the same thing, whether it's the Bank of International Settlements or the IMF, you know, they all link together. So we're creating a, you know, the prison house financial system in the wake of losing ground and losing power financially worldwide. So I think that's what I like to talk about when I'm trying to break this down, because I want to understand what this is going to mean to us. And I just don't think people,

even myself included, truly grasp the implications of how big of a change we're about to see. Yeah, I agree with you, Tony. Tony Arterburn is our guest, folks. Wise Wolf Gold and Silver Exchange. Go to DavidKnight.Gold if you want to use the portal to get in and get connected with the Wolf Pack. We'll talk about the Wolf Pack in a little bit. But it really is the, and it's really been coming for quite a while. It's the Panopticon financial system is what we're looking at here. And Jeremy Bentham and his brother were the ones who came up with the concept of the Panopticon, a prison with a tower in the center that could look out at everybody in a circle around them.

They tried to sell the idea throughout Russia. Amazingly, the Russians didn't accept it, which is interesting. It's an interesting parallel right now with the BRICS and, of course, the ruble and nation states starting around 2008, 2009, separating from long-term U.S. debt obligations. They dropped the long-term bond. And, of course, we've seen the United States bond situation has become inverted. And so they were prescient because when they saw what Obama was doing with the so-called American Recovery Act, they knew if they got long-term bonds, they'd be paid back with dollars that were worth less than when they first bought the bonds. So they started to get gold and something that would resist the inflationary pressures of politicians wanting more of this money

so that they can expand their panopticon state on all of us. And of course, do it for our blessings, right? Do it for us, right? So this SWIFT thing, and this is very interesting because they just did their beta test and they finished it off over the last six

months. I was reading the Reclaim the Net piece on this. This indicates to me that we're going to be seeing people like Janet Yellen, people like Liz Warren and so on. They're really going to start pushing hard either this summer or this fall for stopping the cryptocurrencies and pushing more for CBDCs the way that they've already been doing. But I think they're going to ramp up and really rattle those sabers. Oh, I think so too. And let's not forget, even with the rise of like the Bitcoin ETFs, which I think it could possibly be a bad thing in the long run for Bitcoin.

I mean, we're already starting to see people like Larry Fink come out and endorse it. Whenever Larry Fink endorses something that I've been pushing, I start to question myself. It's a moment of introspection and pause. By the way, Larry Fink just came out from BlackRock and said that in emerging markets, those who invest in gold are hurting their own markets. They're actually detrimental by putting their money in gold because they said it doesn't do anything. We could make that argument. I know that what fiat currency does, it's destructive, it's satanic. It robs people of their wealth. So I think the establishment is at war with emerging technologies government. I don't need the establishment. I don't need the Wall Street criminals for money. We have a worldwide gold standard. We have a worldwide silver standard. We have things like Bitcoin. We have other tokens that, again, this

is peer-to-peer. You can choose what sort of token you want to trade in. This should be a free market. But the establishment of people like Elizabeth Warren, who works on behalf of the banksters, let's not forget that there's no populist, so-called populist person out there or progressive that isn't funded by the world's most powerful corporations for their own interests. If you're for the people, then you'd be for decentralization, you'd be for free markets, and you'd be for some sort of metallic standard in your currency of some kind and government involved. I think you and I, we would intersect very well on that. I don't think you or I think that there should be any government involvement in currency.

And that's a great lesson because I would run into traditional conservatives, especially up until the last few years, I think more people I've recognized, more people are starting to see the larger lesson that I don't want to say it's like some great insight or whatever, but Ron Paul would discuss this a lot. He's like, you don't have to just abolish the Fed. All you have to do is allow for free market money, which is essentially what people did with Bitcoin and what we do with gold or silver or things like that. Often people would say, well, you know, the Federal Reserve, it's not federal and it has no reserves. It's like, that's true. But even if the U.S. government, the Treasury were to do it according to the

Constitution, you shouldn't have it be the exclusive money because anytime a nation state is tied to the issuance of the only currency, the fiat imposed by fiat on everybody, it has an incentive to start printing up more money so it can that were now lighter and claim, oh, they're worth just as much. So they could pay off all their fiefdoms and their different soldiers all over the place, all the way up to Hadrian's Wall. So the problem is endemic to any ties of monetary system to the state. That's just the way that it's going to go. And this is a classic example of this because we can see just the last inflation report, right? Or price increase report, according to the Consumer Price Index, which isn't even the same basket of goods as it was in the 70s. So the inflation numbers are much worse than three and a half percent. That's for sure. But we know that since Biden entered office and partially inspired by the massive CARES dump of trillions, thanks to Trump, we have a 17,

almost 18 percent price increases just based on their basket of goods today. It's over 20 percent if you go by what the numbers used to be collected back in the 70s. So trying to escape this is really important. And I wonder, I'd love to get your thoughts, Tony, because we've got the election coming up in office, they will keep interest rates lower to artificially pump up more investment, more people bringing in employees and things like that, make the economy look good. That's going to lead to an artificial boom. And then of course, once prices start going up, people usually withhold their money and then you get the bust and all those jobs and things have to be gotten rid of. All that stuff needs to be liquidated because the price doesn't reflect the value. Again, a reference to Wizard of Oz, you liquidated her, eh? All that stuff, right? Very resourceful of you. But the problem is now they've already got the runaway inflation. They've already got

the runaway price increases. So what do you think they're going to be doing? Well, I definitely think that the closer we get to the election, the more chances that increase that we'll see the rate cuts. They're going to they're going to cut rates. They're going to lower rates. I think what they'd like to see, Gardner. And let's not forget, you know, we talk about the selection process and I have been following politics since I was a little kid. I've always been interested. I'm no longer interested anymore in politics, especially our national politics, because it's just such a, it's such a sideshow to what is actually going on. There's so much psychological warfare going on in it. You have to choose a side. I feel like I'm captured in some sort of mind war fulcrum, you know, all the time. But so I try to step away from it.

So let's not forget that whoever wins in November, we lose. Let's just think about that for a minute. Is the establishment going to suffer if Trump is elected? No. They were able to jam down all these unconstitutional, you know, not you're not essential, strip you of your liberties in 2020, destroy the supply chain. You know, all the things that that happened, the tyranny that, you know, that under Trump in his last year of his presidency, 40% of all the dollars created were made out of thin air. So I don't think that the establishment fears a Trump victory. I think what they're, if I could paint a picture, and this is where my mind goes, and again, you're, you're exactly right. We're, we don't know. We're taking shots in the dark because we're, we're not part of the cabal. I didn't see you at Bilderberg last year, so we don't really know.

But I think if you were to look at it from a standpoint of painting a picture, I think they'd like to see Biden look better, the establishment look better, so the economy's doing well. That way, if the sentiment in the mood of the country is like, well, we're still going to put in Trump or there's enough popular sentiment out there where they can't really cover it up. And so let's say he's selected in November. I think after that, they've had such damage to the dollar, inflation, the increase and expansion of the money supply, they're going to have to lower rates again. Jerome Powell, or excuse me, raised rates again. They raised rates faster than any time in history in the last three years.

And people don't realize that. It's the fastest rate rises in history. So I think the analysis that I'm looking at is that even if they're going to be lowering rates here soon to goose the economy, it'll give it a fake sugar high for a little while. But there's going to be a lot of damage done and a lot of cleanup that they're going to have to try to do by raising rates in 2025. That will usher in, I think, the banking crisis. I don't think 2024 this year will be the year we start seeing the big reveal of all the damage done from 2009. I think 2025 is guard.

It's really hard. I probably have brain damage from trying to think like a neocon globalist lizard person to figure out what they're going to do next. But wouldn't it be like, oh, we were doing fine in 2024, and the economy was good in November. You still elected the orange man, and it's MAGA. And look what America First did, and they just dump all the economic crash and the emergence of the BRICS and the death of the dollar.

And these dump it all in the lap of MAGA. I think that would be a scenario for the establishment to have permanent uniparty rule forever. Yeah. And I mean, that's that's where my mind goes. If we're talking about finance as a weapon, are they just lowering rates to make Biden look better? That's an open question. Or are they just saying we want to make him look better at the time or, you know, we can always point back and see you were doing well. But, you know, again, it's it's all it all leads back to fake. It's not federal. It's not a reserve. And it's not constitutional. And we're this is everybody looks not a reserve. And it's not constitutional. Everybody looks in finances now. Everybody looks to what the Federal Reserve is going to do. And that is not how this country was set up. And that's not how free markets work.

Oh, it's amazing. You got the convergence of certain philosophical problems inherent in the state and money and things like that. Then you've got the opportunists like the Rockefellers and others who met at Jekyll Island, and then the people who come subsequently to that. And I was mentioning to David on the phone yesterday that, you know, I think we always know that there are going to be these political opportunists and they're going to get into these places or create these things. And then there are the larger opportunists who are sort of behind things. And they know that, well, philosophically, we can keep driving these people towards collectivism because they might want to be rent seekers. They might want to game the system for themselves.

So we're the big opportunists here, and we're going to pick and choose favorites here. And I see things like the wars that are going on with Ukraine. I'd love to get your opinions on a couple of things, Tony, before you have to go. First, tell me your thoughts about the Key Bridge collapse and economically how that might tie into things and your own personal thoughts on what you've seen reported and so on and so forth, claims that it was sabotage. You know, Laura Logan has been talking about that and any thoughts you might have on that. might be waiting to see how things pan out with the Russia-Ukraine stuff and the Israeli-Gaza stuff before they really start battening down their hatches with their CBDC in 2025. What do you think about the Key Bridge thing? Well, I think even if you take out the conspiracy, which seems more and more likely. And you talk about the reports from Laura Logan,

and we're at war, whether it's an external or an internal forces, we're at war, they're sabotaged. We know that. But the real sabotage in our infrastructure comes from the neglect, from the abandonment of this country by the elite who run it. I mean, even somebody like Tucker Carlson has talked a lot about how does the country survive when the people that rule it hate it? And we haven't worked on our infrastructure. Our airports are run down. Our highways are terrible. And you have more overt sabotage, the shutting down of the borders, shutting down of the ports with the jab mandates, stopping Russian energy, stopping natural gas, shutting down of the ports with the with the jab mandates, stopping Russian energy, stopping natural gas, shutting down the oil exploration. People claim that Biden gave up a portion of ANWR. That was two thirds, not what was agreed to. He only gave basically a third of

what was supposed to be drilled up in ANWR. They've been doing the more overt things as well. Yes. Well, it just describes America as a pitiful giant. Like we have this, all these resources, all this potential, all this strength that we can't use. We can't tap into the ingenuity of the American people. We can't tap into what made America great in the first place, which was just getting to work and building things. I mean, we built the Empire State Building at the height of the Great Depression, Garth, 1933. I mean, just in time for King Kong to climb up it.

I mean, we were right there, right? And I think about that. You know, we can't build buildings anymore. We don't, you've got the perfect, it's like the perfect example of where we are, regardless if it's sabotaged, probably is sabotage in some way, because of the, the chemicals and other necessary things that move across that bridge that it's, you know, you're something that, that Logan was referencing.

You know, we, we have so much, so much that's been neglected, so much that has fallen away over the past many years. And I you look pete buttage edge it's this pothole pete i mean his name oh he's literally a pot pothole pete because he couldn't fix the infrastructure of south bend and then they make him the transfer it's like we're living in a humiliation ritual by the elite they're like hey that's right right, hey, can we get a guy named Pothole, which probably has so many other hidden connotations, but we're going to put him in charge, Pothole Pete. And I think this is a sad, sad thing to watch. The American empire is crumbling and it starts internally. If you read anything, if you ever sat down and read

Gibbons, you ever sat down and read the decline and fall of the Roman empire, Edward Gibbons wrote, wrote six volumes on that. I read, I tried to read the first three when I was in Iraq. And one thing I noticed about Gibbons is that he wrote, he wrote the decline and fall of the, of the Roman empire. You know the date it was published? 1776. Yeah, along with Adam Smith, right? Wealth of Nations. And I thought about that. The beginning of our country at the American experiment, the Republic, was Gibbon's warning.

This is what happens. This is the apex of empires. And you can follow along. You can see where, where Rome started to decline, what they declined on, you know, what, what was the reasons for, uh, for their disintegration. And, and it really is harkens back to something Pat Buchanan said, the only lesson we learned from history is that we do not learn from history. Oh, so true. So true. And, you know, I know you speak very fondly of Pat. I met him a number of times when he was up here in New Hampshire. My folks were working on his presidential campaign. What a nice guy. Great guy. And it's funny you should bring up Edward Gibbons because,

you know, it makes me think about resistance to these things and how eventually people start to go to gray markets. They start to try to get away from these things. And there's actually a quote, Jacob Hornberger of the Future Freedom Foundation is going to be with us tomorrow. And this came in their in their email yesterday, a quote from Ever Given. Whenever the offense inspires less horror than the punishment, the rigor of penal law is obliged to give way to the common feelings of mankind. So I think it just maybe just depends on how much people are willing to put up with and how many canards they can sell to people to say this is for your protection. Oftentimes, I think there's an information problem there. The larger the area of control is, as F.A. Hayek noted, the less information the people in one area have over

the other area and that sort of thing. And the politicians don't have that information. But if they can pretend or make up a story about something that's happening here that needs to be taken care of by everybody, well, I'm not there. I don't know. And this is the sort of thing where whether it's physical physicality or it's the COVID canard that they try to push. Well, you just don't know. We've got the scientists here. So you better go by what we're saying. They constantly come up with this series of brickbats and bogeymen to try to frighten people about things that in their daily lives, they just don't have time to investigate or in their geography they don't know about. And this is one of the major problems with the larger

empire of the United States. They'll say, oh, there's an emergency in Afghanistan. There's an emergency here. There's an emergency there. We have to stop this. We have to fund Ukraine. Look at the way they've been able to pull people's eyes, wool over people's eyes about Ukraine. As I mentioned to you, I had a friend in December of 2013 come up to me and say, hey, where are you getting your information on Ukraine? Because I was reporting about the Maidan coup. And he had worked for the Obama administration and left because he was disgusted. And I said, well, I'm just doing research, you know? And he said, well, you're right. And there's a lot more. Well, he didn't want to tell me anymore because he said

he had a daughter. And I said, okay, you don't tell me. Yeah, I thought he was just getting dramatic. But there was a lot more, obviously. And so I really am heartened by people starting to pick this up. And it bothers me when I see the way that the politicians depict people in other nation states. They're trying to pull away from the U.S. dollar as being the bad guys, you know, and they started to do this in 2009 with Russia. Of course, Russia was going to be working with Syria to get their pipeline out there. They tried to overthrow Assad in Syria. They overthrew Gaddafi because he was going to start a gold-based African currency. And most people don't know about that. So I think getting the information

out is really, really key. And I'd love to get your thoughts also about mentioning on the Bay Bridge thing before we talk about anything about Ukraine or anything like that. Tony, do you think this could have been... I think a lot of people are going to say, I read something earlier today, it could have been China. Well, again, that's the book. That's easy. Go to boogeyman. I don't see an incentive for China to do that. Um, uh, I, I also know that vault seven shows us that the United States intelligence agencies, if they do engage in this sort of thing can make it look like anybody did it. So what are your thoughts on possible false flag and any reasons that someone in the deep state

might have been involved with that? Oh, just lost your audio. Lost your audio. Yeah. There you go. Oh, I think. Still no audio. Give it another shot. Still no audio. Hold on a second. I've got your mic thing is on here, so it's on your end, it looks like. Let me just double check. Oh, he's gone, but he'll come back. He'll come back. I want to hear that. And I want to hear what's going on at Wise Wolf as well. So while he is doing that, we'll check out comments from folks over at X.

We've got, oh, Ananda, yes, thank you again. And Tony's back. Let's bring him in. Hey, Tony, welcome back. Is that better? Your thumbs up, 100%. All right. I would say that I would go with Occam's razor on that, Gard. I mean, most of the conflicts that we've been drug into in the last 100

years began with the false flag, the national security. Lost your signal there a little bit. You'll just repeat after you say national security. We got a little, it must be the signal or something. You just dropped out. Try it again. Oh, lost you. Lost you.

Still no sound. Still no sound. So, ah, that stinks. Well, Tony, sorry about about that no sound right now yeah i'll bring it back and what i will do is actually do this hold on a second let me do this i it as as bothersome as it might be i am going to call tony right now and we can actually watch him pick up the phone and we'll put him on speaker. There we go. So let me take him off there and he's going to join us

on speaker. Hey, Tony. Are we connected now? Yeah, we're connected. We're connected. I know they're only going to see my beautiful, beautiful long locks here and not your beard. But thanks, man. Real quick, real quick move there. And it's great to have you back. Appreciate it. Well, I appreciate you. I think the issues, the phone's ringing.

Like, my phone just keeps ringing over and over again. So it's knocking off my mind on my phone. And this is about the time everything gets started. Oh, gotcha. gotcha, yeah. Yeah. Alright, well we won't keep you too much longer, Tony, but I really appreciate you joining us and yeah, I'd love to get your

thoughts on what you think is going to, you know, having military service, been a paratrooper, what your thoughts are regarding not just false flags, but you were mentioning a little bit about the false flag stuff and Occam's razor. Yeah, I mean, that's what we've seen the last hundred years is a series of false flags to animate the American people

into a sense of outward projection of outrage with the enemies out there, whether it's the Cold War, which probably had some validity, or to something like the worldwide global war on terrorism, which I took part in, where all the terrorists get fucked up. Yep, yep. We're supposed to be in this death struggle of civilization for 20-plus years on, and where'd they all go. They're conveniently activated whenever we put the book in,

but right now it's Russia and China, and the elites are gearing up for something, I think, a lot more cataclysmic, because honestly they need a new Cold War, but probably a kinetic war to save the current system financially, the dollar, the key dollar itself, the military-industrial complex. So anything that's happening, whether it's the key bridge or anything like that, if we watch or sabotage, I think it's the calls are coming from inside the house. That's how I perceive it.

Whether the Chinese spy balloon, why did the. The Chinese spy balloon. Why did the Chinese need a spy balloon? I mean, they own our politicians. They have our universities. Exactly. Exactly. All of the hammering, the hammering. Stop the hammering on TikTok.

Just ridiculous. The U.S. government is doing much more than that. They've already been exposed years ago for doing that sort of thing. And they've already engaged in the propaganda of funding various social media organizations to make our messages less visible, to censor us. It's been exposed over and over again. And of course, then they've got the Constitution. I don't see any power to ban a company or ban the sale of a product. I see the power for them to impose a tariff that could be very, very high to make it tough to buy something like that. But again, you know, that's, you know, picking winners and losers sort of thing.

But this is I think you're right. This is a very, very troubling time. I one more question about the Key Bridge thing, Tony. With your knowledge about deep state operations, we already heard that the black box recording stopped because they lost power on the ship. The airplane downings, you know, airplane downing on Long Island and then, of course, over Pennsylvania. We're not going to the government is going to be very, very thick and it's not going to allow this information to come out to us. And I think we're I don't know what you think, but I think we're going to start hearing a lot of stories. If people start to think that it was some sort of cyber attack they're not going to allow anybody to consider that it could have been someone from the United States and I think they're going to try to censor people

maybe people like Laura Logan if what she comes up with really is valid what do you think? Well I think they obviously used the same power system as they had in Epstein's prison cell for the black box or whatever cameras were supposed to watch Stephen Paddock's therapy for the hotel in Las Vegas. Yes.

Yeah, they conveniently lose power to all these things. I think it could be a multiplier in a way, Gar, you're absolutely right, where they're setting up up the page for unknowns i mean what's the scarier than the unknown is it is it uh china is it russia is it terrorism uh is it a rogue element in our own intelligence is it ukraine oh yeah yeah yeah yeah ukrainian element i've seen you know there's a telegram channel supposedly that was uh putting out uh posts about how they did this, that they were responsible. Now it's time for the West to donate more money or something. They must put more money into Ukraine or this will happen or something like that. I've seen, you know, who knows anymore.

I think the unknown, the chaos, that's the soil in which totalitarian behavior absolutely you've got a smorgasbord of things to choose from whether it's somebody like Laura Logan trying to ask tough questions or follow through on intelligence she was given about

foreign actors or whatever and using that as what Woodrow Wilson did was in 1917 was the Espionage Act. Yeah, goodness knows. I hope we all get prosecuted for that because, yeah, it's such a wonderful

and constitutional thing. And that reminds me about Julian Assange. You know, it's amazing to see one of the most high-profile guys who did the right thing, along with Chelsea Manning, doing the right thing, exposing U.S. U.S. war crimes. That is such an obvious case that the people who are lower level doing reports, how can we possibly think that we could defend against such a corrupt system? I think one of the ways is just trying to continue to communicate with each other in these ways.

And, Tony, why don't you tell people a little bit about how they can find you on your broadcasts, where they can find you on Twitter. And then let's talk finally about Wise Wolf Gold and Silver Exchange and what's going on there. How can they find you? Well, the easiest way to find me is go to my website. It's Arterburn.news. Most of my shows are there on the RSSV podcast, which is the Arterburn Radio Transmission

or Wise Wolf Golden Crypto Show. I have a podcast called Paratruth. I'll put it out about once a month or so. And then we kind of dive into some of the things like you and I talked about. We try to look into the future, look into the past,

and see what all this means. Because it's a very interesting thing. There's lots of stuff going on all at once, Garth. But yeah, we sponsor the programs through Wise Wolf Gold and Silver. You can go to david9.gold. It's before David, for sure. Nothing is too small or too large for us to handle. We're a nationwide dealer for precious metals, and we have Wolfpack.

So that's a monthly membership program. Again, all those things that go through David9.gold support David and the magnificent program, which you're crushing it, Gar. You're in your final stretch. It's like you're just getting warmed up. Hey, Tony, listen. I was going to ask you to do this. I know you got to go, but I was going to ask you to do this while you were on your camera. Underneath my gray shirt right now, I have my David Knight t-shirt, and I also have my David Knight pen down here. I just want to mention,

because you and I know, and the audience knows knows David mentioned that David's going through some tests. He's been looking at his heart and things like that. And so if we can express to people as two people who've been just graced with amazing blessings from David, let's both say as you sign off, let's just both say God bless David Knight and everybody there. And if anybody in the house is listening or watching in David's family, how much we love and appreciate all the folks in the Knight family. And I think by extension, you are part of that family. And you make me, you do many, many good things for me just like David. And I want to tell you how much I appreciate that too.

But anything you want to say for David is, you know, he's away today and tomorrow. Well, I have the same attention that you do, Gardner. Thank you for the good words. God bless his family. He's been in anguish this time of chaos and grief.

He looks at somebody like for hope and strength and for humility. He's a low star. He really is. I mean, you can set your watch by him. You just know there's still a good man left on planet Earth. And so, yeah, he's very, very inspiring. I've had to be a better broadcaster to talk to him once a week or to fill in with him for him sometimes.

You can never truly fill in for David. You can only trust him. That's right. That's right. Well, Tony, look, I know the signal's breaking up a little bit, so we'll leave it at that. Wise Wolf Gold and Silver Exchange, DavidKnight.Gold, Tony Arterburn, Arterburn Radio Transmission.

Go to Arterburn.News, Arterburn.News, Arterburn.News. Tony, God bless you, man, and have a good Friday early, man, okay? You too, bro. All right, we'll talk to you soon. Tony Arterburn, a very, very, very good man, and I hope people will check out Wise Wolf Gold and Silver Exchange, and, of course, go to DavidKnight.com. The common man.

They created common core and dumbed down our children. They created common past to track and control us. Their commons project. Gaza's waterfront property, it could be very valuable to if people would focus on kind of building up life. So I think that it's a little bit of an unfortunate situation there. But I think from Israel's perspective, I would do my best to move the people out and then clean it up. I think proactively recognizing the Palestinians, they would essentially be rewarding an act of terror. I mean, aren't we at all surprised that those sociopathic are coming out of the closet there, getting a little double audio from something in the system. So thank you so much, Tony Arterburn, for joining us. Just phenomenal. So great to hear from Tony.

What a good, good guy. And so I want to take the opportunity to turn to you in the chat and mention that I am seeing people still contributing over at Rockfin. So nice of you to do that. I noticed that James had tipped $5 as well over at Rockfin and at Rumble as well. Appreciate everyone being there and great comments from people. Let me know what you think about the bridge collapse. Obviously, a lot of speculation is really only what we're going on now. But I think there are some other lessons that can be learned here about the United States involvement,

so-called fixing the bridge for America so that we can get all the different things that we're supposed to get in the market and so on. And why is the United States government involved with that? But I also want to turn to something else. And so feel free to drop your comments in there, one and all. But I mentioned on the economic front that Pete mention. Now, let's let's go with the economic stuff, I think. Yeah, let's go with this. Pete St. Ange, I'm going to show not all of this, but part of this about the economic problems that face us. Not to be too down, but before we go into Donald Trump and the Middle East and some of the things that he said that I think people might be taking and giving him a

little bit too much credit for this. In fact, maybe looking at it the wrong way, because I think what Donald Trump said about the Middle East was rather callous. I want to show you what Pete St. Onge has to say. Here's the headline. He is, of course, the economist for Heritage, one of the economists for Heritage Foundation. In case you were thinking of retiring someday, bad news from Janet Yellen. Social Security and Medicare are now underfunded by $175 trillion. That comes to roughly $1.4 million per American household. There are only three solutions. Slash the number of beneficiaries, massively hike taxes, or cut everybody's benefit to poverty level. Here's Pete St. Onge.

In case you were thinking of retiring someday, there's some bad news from Janet Yellen. Social Security and Medicare are now underfunded by $175 trillion. That's with a T. That comes to roughly $1.4 million per household. Now, it's worth noting the median household net worth in the United States is roughly one-seventh of that. The numbers come from the latest financial report of the United States government, a 254-page report laying out all the gory details. One chart is particularly eye-catching, laying out the scale. So you've got the actual deficit, which is now bouncing along at $2 trillion, then the national debt at a grotesque $35 trillion, and then the real fun starts.

So underfunded obligations on Social Security and Medicare that collectively add up to another $175 trillion. So what happened? Simple. Politicians stole every penny that went into Social Security and Medicare, replacing them with IOUs, government bonds, like Indiana Jones plopping a bag of sand on the altar. So it turns out that was a large amount to steal. Social Security and Medicare together account for over a third of what the federal government collects in the form of a 15.3% payroll tax. Your company actually pays half of that. So you pay twice what you think you do. Now, both programs are incredibly wasteful, as you would expect from a government program. And they pay out billions in fraudulent claims every year, including to people who live overseas. But the real problem is both were intentionally set up as Ponzi schemes. That is, they took in a lot of money early when there were lots of people

paying and few elderly. They pretended to set all that money aside, but they actually spent it, replacing it with that bag of sand. Yet even the bag of sand is going now with both programs expected to run dry in the next 10 years. So 2031 for Medicare and 2033 for Social Security. So what's next? Brought to you by Unchained.com. There are only three ways to fix this. First is slash the number of people who get benefits. So for example, raise the retirement age to 70 or beyond. This is obviously very unpopular. Occasionally some naive Republican tries, which is typically the last thing he does before ending his congressional career. Option two is raise payroll taxes, which is also unpopular since payroll is a flat tax,

meaning voters hate it as much as they would hate all taxes if they too were flat. And that brings us to option three, cutting benefits. This is the path of least resistance, the do-nothing path, so we can safely assume Congress will follow it. Concretely, that means whatever benefits you are expecting slash a huge chunk off that. So analysts are already expecting a 23% cut within a decade when those fake trust fund sandbags run dry, and then it keeps going.

They will cut off the rich first. Of course, there aren't that many rich, so they'll quickly move on to slashing social security checks and Medicare benefits for the middle class. So you'll keep paying every step of the way, but you won't get much back. This will throw millions of Americans back on their own savings, which, of course, are draining even faster

than those empty government promises. Okay, we'll be watching. Thank you, Peter St. Onge. Thank you very much. You can find him over on Twitter. It's at Prof, P-R-O-F-S-T-O-N-G, Prof St. Onge. And I follow him. I find his information great. He does a fantastic job. And of course, you know, one of the things that I think is worth stressing is how often people think of Social Security as some sort of an insurance

program and that it is not a Ponzi scheme, they seem to think, which is absolutely false. The first year that people got their money from Social Security, the first woman who got it got more than she put into it. It's always been a Ponzi scheme. And Jacob Hornberger, who I think, believe will be joining us tomorrow on The David Knight Show, wrote yesterday about Social Security. And he says, I'm always fascinated by people, including libertarians, who convince themselves that they are being good, caring and compassionate by advocating the continuation of Social Security, claiming that it would be heartless to suddenly terminate this program. They say that the moral thing to do is continue the program for at least one generation. Of course, we all know what would happen at the end of that period. People would clamor for another 25-year extension by saying that to suddenly end the program would be heartless and on and on. Why do I find this to be fascinating? Several reasons, he says. One, these paragons of virtue are being good, caring,

and compassionate with money that's being stolen from people by the IRS. It's always easy to be good, caring, and compassionate with other people's money. It's not so easy to be good, caring, and compassionate with one's own money. Two, these paragons of virtue are relying on the initiation of force to demonstrate their sense of goodness, care, and compassion. The money that funds social security comes from taxation. Taxation is the initiation of force. Refuse to pay your taxes and they will jail you. Just Google Erwin Schiff, Peter Schiff's father. I got to know Erwin. He was a nice man, nice man. He refused to pay his taxes, and the consequence of his refusal was that officials forced him to die in prison. If he had refused to surrender and had used deadly force to resist being

kidnapped and incarcerated, they would have killed him. There is nothing voluntary about the taxes that fund Social Security. Thus, these paragons of virtue rely on the initiation of force when they advocate the continuation of this socialist program. Third, Social Security is a socialist program. The concept of a government provided retirement dole for seniors originated among German socialists and was later imported into the United States, where it became an established federal program under the regime of FDR during the 30s. The program uses, of course, after he manipulated the Supreme Court to make sure they would say that it was constitutional, the program uses the coercive taxing apparatus of the IRS to take money from one group of people to give it to another group

of people. That's classic socialism, from each according to his ability to each according to his need. Thus, these paragons of virtue are demonstrating their goodness, care, and compassion through their advocacy of socialism, one of the most evil and destructive economic philosophies in history. Absolutely. And of course, the from his ability to according to his need is all determined by the central power authority that will be lording it over you. Fourth, it's not voluntary. Fourth, these paragons of virtue have also convinced

themselves that throughout their work lives, people have put their money into a social security retirement program. Thus, they've convinced themselves that when people receive Social Security checks, they're simply getting their retirement money back. Nothing could be further from the truth. People pay taxes. The government spends those tax revenues in the year it receives them. No tax money goes into a Social Security retirement fund. Social Security is a plain welfare state program, no different in principle from food stamps and public housing. And of course, they use the earned income tax credit now to increase the welfare system for people they call indigent. And it's just a promise that they're paying people back what was taken from them from their employment taxes for these so-called benefits, but they still promise that they're going to pay the benefits later when people retire. Interesting, the double payment idea.

The best evidence of this is when a person dies, his heirs are not entitled to unpaid Social Security benefits, or for that matter, writes Jacob Hornberger, unpaid food stamps and public housing benefits. Yes, and of course, as I mentioned last night on Liberty Conspiracy at 6 o'clock, Monday through Friday, on Rumble and Rockfin and my Twitter, which is X, of course, at Guard Goldsmith, I mentioned that Black Americans tend to die earlier than white Americans.

So if people want to bring up the racial conflict thing and systemic racism stuff, well, they might want to say maybe stop taking money from people. And by the way, stop claiming that you're getting reparations from people alive today by giving it to people who are alive today who never met each other, never harmed each other. How about that? Moreover, writes Jacob Hornberger, ignorance of the law is no excuse. At any time in, say, their 20s, 30s, or 40s, people could have hired a lawyer and gotten a legal opinion stating that Social Security under the law is nothing more than a welfare state program, not a retirement program into which they were putting their money. So then he goes through a lot of other things, but I think it's very valuable to keep this in mind as we see the economic pressures that are on people. Very, very troubling stuff.

Very troubling stuff. Well, before we turn anywhere else, I want to give you what I promised about Donald Trump and the Trump family. There's a little something in this section of the program in the David Knight show, Trump family traditions. Now, as you know, I don't support Donald Trump. I think Donald Trump did a good thing to lower corporate taxes. That was cool. Trying to reduce some regulations. He did a bad thing, imposing massive, massive tariffs on foreign washing machines and dishwashers, all to the benefit of the people in Bob Portman in his state of Ohio, because, of course, the manufacturers of those particular items are based mostly in Ohio. It was a massive backfire, cost consumers tons of money.

As James Bovard has mentioned, terrorists generally harm consumers to the tune of eight times as much as the particular industry that the politicians are trying to help. And as I mentioned on Liberty Conspiracy, those of us out here who were upset by the terminology of essential worker and non-essential worker, that is the same mindset that goes towards stopping certain products from coming in from other countries because you think it's essential for America's security or America's economy or anything like that. That's a politician deciding. I should say, not say you. That's a politician deciding that.

So I see no difference philosophically or through the immoral act of telling somebody you can buy this, you can't buy that, from that to you can't work here, you can do this for work. I see no difference. It's all an imposition. It's unfortunate. But at least Donald Trump did reduce corporate taxes, even as he sat in Syria and so on and so forth. But recently, Donald Trump said some things about Israel, and I found some people actually praising him for what he said about Israel and how they should get it done. They kind of took that out of context, because if you see Donald Trump, and here is Zero Hedge, this originally came from Antiwar.com. Trump says Israel has to finish the war as it's losing a lot of support.

So this is the nation state of Israel, which has been cited as probably engaging in genocide, where the leadership of the Israeli government worked, and they have documents that show quotes of Benjamin Netanyahu to have Hamas lead the Palestinian people as a political entity in Gaza because Netanyahu knew that they wouldn't negotiate, they would be oppositional, and therefore they could use kinetic force, as they already have used kinetic force over decades to encroach into the Palestinian areas. It wasn't a land without any people for a people without any land. There were people there when the Western forces after World War II created Israel and took their property from them, right? There has been a steady encroachment with military incursions and the corralling of these people to control the water. On not only stopping food from going in, but stopping

anesthetic from going in for kids in the few remaining hospitals that are not rubble anymore inside Gaza. We've got all sorts of people saying what is happening is genocide. We've got the Israeli political forces tied to Benjamin Netanyahu who support the idea of from the river to the sea. It wasn't the Palestinians who coined that term. It was, in fact, even Benjamin Netanyahu has used it. You might have seen video of him using it. The Palestinians used it ironically to turn it on the Israelis who were already saying from the river to the sea, Israelis want the land. Well, Donald Trump is, you see the headline here, finish the war because you're losing support. This seems to me to be very indicative of his entire mindset. It doesn't have to do with what's right or wrong. It has to do with not morality, not the constitution or his oath or anything like

that. Those are all shibboleths. It has to do with, can you win? Can you get this deal done? Can you get the support? It's all a show. That's what seems to be what triggers him. Now, maybe there's more. If I were to have a conversation with him,

maybe I could see that in this case, he meant something different. Okay. And he's already done criminal acts in so many other ways with the jabs, the lockdowns that were facilitated by his unconstitutional executive order on March 13th, 2020 for the medical emergency. No power to do that. But here is the sub information from Dave DeCamp, great website, antiwar.com. Former president Trump said in an interview with Israel Hayom over the weekend that Israel made a big mistake by broadcasting images and videos of the destruction in the Gaza Strip, saying it's losing Israel a lot of support. So it's all political.

Is it? The interviewer then claimed the terrorists were hiding in the buildings, and Trump replied as follows. Go and do what you have to do, but you don't do that. And I think that's one of the reasons that there has been a lot of kickback. If people didn't see that every single night, I've watched every single one of those. And I think Israel wanted to show that it's tough, but sometimes you shouldn't be doing that. So again, there's a little room to say maybe he didn't phrase it right and so on and so forth. But one thing's for sure. He still supports giving weapons to Israel.

There's nothing in the constitution that does that. And they could have a ceasefire tomorrow if the Biden administration would stop its fatuous nonsense saying, well, you know, they get asked questions. They say, hey, you know, these weapons you're giving the Israeli government, they're using them to kill innocent women and kids. The Israelis have held hostages without any trial whatsoever, women and teenage kids, hundreds a year for years. If the Ghazan administration of Hamas were to claim that they were engaging in operations and slaughtering even more than got killed on October 7th, both between Hamas and because of the IDF forces who weren't distinguishing between Hamas and innocent people, if the Hamas government there, so-called government, were to invade Israel and slaughter the way that the Israelis have

invaded with the same argument that they're going after the hostages that the Israelis, women and teenage kids, 13, 14-year-old kids that they've been holding without trial, what would happen? It's the same argument, except in this case, it's the occupying force of Israel in Gaza and all of that area that they've already taken that's claiming they have a so-called right to self-defense. No, you don't. No state has any rights, first of all. They're abstract entities. They're not people. And second of all, they don't have a right to defense when they're the aggressive party. How do you get a right to defense? And I bring this up on the anarchist side.

No soldier holding a weapon that was put together and given to him through taxation has a right to use it for his self-defense. That's ill-gotten goods. That's fruit of the poisonous tree. You don't have any moral right to use something you've stolen and claim that you're engaging in self-defense. You're a criminal. So I think Donald Trump, I'd love to give him a pass, but unfortunately,

his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, was at Harvard recently and indicated, and this is the most I've ever seen Jared Kushner speak. I'd never really been exposed to this guy much before this. Jared Kushner at Harvard is talking about waterfront property. This is Donald Trump's son-in-law talking about how valuable the property is. Now, I've got a mixture of things here from Jared Kushner in Harvard, plus some of the good the folks doing good work. I disagree with him in so many ways at the Young Turks and others who brought up some very valid, moral, real points about what's going on here. And if this is if this is what Jared Kushner is very good friends with that Benjamin Netanyahu, by the way.

So watch this. I think you'll find this stunning. Here we go. Gaza's waterfront property, it could be very valuable to if people would focus on kind of building up livelihood. So I think that it's a little bit of an unfortunate situation there. But I think from Israel's perspective, I would do my best to move the people out and then clean it up. I think proactively recognizing a Palestinian state would essentially be rewarding an act of terror. I mean, are we at all surprised that those sociopathic comments are coming out of the mouth of Jared Kushner, Donald Trump's son-in-law, of course, who was at Harvard engaging in conversation about the ongoing war in Gaza and more importantly, what should happen to Gaza following this brutal war that's been carried out by the Israeli government and the IDF. Now, throughout the interview, he conflated terrorists with Palestinian

civilians, a favorite tactic that I've noticed on social media among those who want to provide cover for anything that Israel does. And he clearly supports the idea of pushing Palestinians out of Gaza, which, you know, can be described as ethnic cleansing, if I'm not mistaken, Cenk. Yeah, that's actually the very definition of ethnic cleansing. And, well, this, he put a cherry on top so we could steal their land. Oh, okay. Well, thank you for clarifying. So, which... Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

And again, you know, I disagree with Young Turks so much, but I want to give them big props. They've been doing great work. The folks at the Gray Zone are doing fantastic work. Redacted doing awesome work. Max Blument see, Andromeda1, tip $10. Guard, since deficits don't matter, there should be no tax for Social Security, LOL. Oh, boy. Thank you so much, Andromeda. Thank you so much. And Amos Pool, $100. Thanks, Guard.

You're killing it. Blessings to David and family. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Boy, what a time to be here. What a great time. You're all wonderful.

Awesome. All right, let's go back now because there are some points I'd like to bring up. They're obviously bringing up some of these points that I would bring up. I don't want to break it up too much here and just continue here. That said, why don't we go to our first video and we'll dig right in. It's unfortunate that nobody's taking the refugees, but also there are... Now I'm going to pause it right there. Again, not only is this an amazing usurpation of the rights of those people and their families in that area, but then this guy's got the gall to then say, yeah, it's just a given

that they should be gone. Right. And then he adds to that the assumption that he can say for people in other countries, it's unfortunate that they're not taking the refugees. What stinking prerogative do you have to tell anybody that they've got to take refugees, Jared. Are you going to take them in your house? Are you going to have Benjamin Netanyahu stop by like he does? It's just incredible. Absolutely incredible. Like he can tell people in Egypt that they've got to take refugees. I mean, look, we've got the refugees being brought in

by so many different politicians around the world all over the place, right? So-called refugees. Where are they getting the money to travel oh yeah they're getting ten thousand dollar debit cards from the mayor in new york now on other people's times just incredible right off the bat fears on the part of arabs and i'm sure you talked to a lot of them who think once gossans leave gaza netanyahu's never going to let them back in um maybe but i'm not sure there's much left of gaza at this point so you know if you think about even the construct like you know gaza gaza was not really a historical precedent right it was the result of of a war right you had tribes that were in different places but then gaza became a thing um egypt you know gaza became a thing. Egypt, you know, you start- Gaza became a thing.

Absolutely ahistorical. Doesn't know what he's talking about. We'll show you more. There's a lot more here. And then, you know, over time, you had different governments that came in different ways. So you have another war. You know, usually when wars happen,

you know, borders are changed historically over time. Borders are changed historically over time. All right. So if you're just listening in audio, now we're switching over to counterpoints because they bring up this video as well, and they have some very salient points to bring up at counterpoints. Ryan, it was when you were talking about how Netanyahu was making the point about having people who can string English sentences together, it reminded me that Jared Kushner

He unfortunately can string sentences together. He was stringing those sentences together, an interview with The Guardian, and there is video of a fascinating exchange between The Guardian and Jared Kushner about Gaza. Let's take a look at that. Syria, when there's refugees, Turkey took them, Europe took them, Jordan took them. For whatever reason here in Gaza, there's refugees from the fighting from an offensive attack that was staged from Gaza. Israel's going in to do a long-term deterrence mission. And it's just unfortunate that nobody's taking the refugees.

But also there are real fears on the part of Arabs, and I'm sure you talk to a lot of them who think once Gazans leave Gaza, Netanyahu is never going to let them back in. Maybe, but I'm not sure there's much left of Gaza at this point. So, you know, if you think about even the construct like, you know, Gaza, Gaza was not really a historical precedent, right? It was the result of a war, right? You had tribes that were in different places then Gaza became a thing Egypt you know used to run it and then you know over time you had different governments that came in different ways so you have another war you know usually when wars

so first I just want to say you know I don't I don't want to be too assumptive here but when I watch this, I see a person who is very comfortable with certain terms that he's accepted. I see a sort of robotic, almost, and I mentioned this on my show, it's almost a childlike robotic attitude of I'm using terms that I've been told and I'm just pushing forward in this sphere of operation where it's perfectly acceptable to do this and manage these other people's lives, destroy their lives, eventually wipe them out and take them out of there. And for whatever reason, seriously, he says that. Let's get a little more here. Happen, you know, borders are changed historically over time.

And so my sense is, I would say, how do we deal with the terror threat that is there so that it cannot be a threat to Israel or to Egypt? Right. I think that both sides are spending a fortune on military. I think neither side really wants to have a terrorist organization enclave right between them and Gaza's waterfront property. It could be very valuable to if people would focus on building up livelihoods. You think about all the money that's gone into this tunnel network and into all the munitions, if that would have gone into education or innovation. Biden should recognize the Palestinian Authority unilaterally as a state, and MBS should go to Jerusalem like Egyptian President Anwar Sadat did in 1977. And he should

say, I'll normalize with Israel. I'll recognize West Jerusalem as your capital. And I'll even pay to rebuild Gaza if you recognize a Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital. What do you think, good idea? No, I don't think that's a good idea. I think that there's certain elements of it that are correct.

I think proactively recognizing a Palestinian state would essentially be rewarding an act of terror. Waterfront property, he said, if the money from the tunnels would have been redirected, I think he said towards education and innovation, but it was in the context actually talking about how you could redevelop Gaza into a, quote, very valuable waterfront property. Ryan, what's your reaction to that? Well, there was also that line he had where he said, for whatever reason, there's refugees. Okay, for whatever reason, interesting. Then he also said that Gaza is a construct.

Like, so just Google to make sure. You know, Wikipedia says the known history of Gaza spans 4,000 years. And Pompey took it at one point, Alexander the Great took it at one point, Bedouins. In fact, the IDF has tragically destroyed archaeological sites that are some of the most kind of important to archaeology in the world, and have destroyed buildings that are from the 6th and 7th century. Just irreplaceable and tragic destruction. So true, so true. And of course, the history goes way back there. If you want to see really good in-depth information on that,

go to check out Grand Theft World. Richard Grove and Tony Myers, Sunday nights, starting usually around 930 in the evening, maybe a little bit after that as they get things set up. You can check them out on Rockfin. You can follow Richard at Tragedy and Hope on X, at Tragedy and Hope on X. Excellent, excellent work from those guys going through a lot of those clips and really just incredible. And I'd love to get your thoughts on that as well. As we look at some of the things here, OctoSpot. OK, so we've got he says it is fine for the Gaza citizens to claim ignorance of the terrorist operation there. Tunnels, weapons, areas where missile attacks on Israel originate from. But I call them terrorist supporters.

Well, a lot of the tunnels think, whether or not one thinks that these people are defending themselves against Israeli aggression and being trapped there. lot of people start to say, well, the citizens, this, I don't agree with this. Well, the citizens of country X are represented by the government. So therefore they are legitimate targets. We hear this all the time. It's the, we, the people canard that they sell us that somehow the government is us that that is self-governance, which is not right. Self-governance is I control myself. You control yourself, right? And that is the same argument that the Times Square bomber said. And I might have mentioned it on David's show when they asked the Times Square bomber, who, of course, was caught before he detonated any bombs, how do you plead? He said, guilty, guilty, a hundred times guilty. And if the United States government continues to do what it does in the Middle East, there will be more innocent civilians killed by people who are reacting to what don't forget, in the last budget where they did again the $3.8 billion handout to Israel, they've been doing this for 10 years now. And you didn't hear much about that in this nation state with all this debt.

But they gave Israel, again, it's $3.8 billion. And again, I don't support the government handing anything out to anybody. But so many of the politicians there who typically vote for the UN relief agency to get money where it has been giving food aid to the Palestinians for years. The vast bulk of the food aid comes from the UNRWA, right? Well, guess what? They didn't fund it this time. Evidently, the Israeli lobby might have had something to do with that. And let's go with a little more because it's not just Gaza. Israel kills nine more in South Lebanon, including more paramedics. This is from Jason Ditz on Anti-War Yesterday. The first strikes were against the border village of Tar Harfa, killing five. The identities of those killed aren't certain, although Hezbollah said two of its

paramedics were killed in Tahrir Haifa. The attack that killed the Hezbollah paramedics was reportedly against a vehicle for the Islamic Health Organization. That wasn't the end to the attacks on paramedics, as Israel followed up with attacks on the border town of Nakora, hitting a group of paramedics near a cafeteria, killing at least four and wounding six others. And don't forget the UN relief people that they killed in a food tent last week, the IDF in Southern Gaza. That is the area where they told the innocent people, go to Rapa, go to southern Gaza, and you'll be safe there. And they've been bombing it now coming up on four weeks.

And they're going to put ground troops in there. In the meantime, we also know that the United States government is basically saying, yeah, we expect them to operate a certain way, but we're going to continue giving them weapons. Amazing want to comment on this Middle Eastern subject. And if you think I'm being too critical of Donald Trump, feel free. But I do think that Donald Trump is really exposing a callous aspect of his personality. Wolfgang Cohen, Inside Rafen, says this, Wake up, Christian Zionists. You support genocide, and it will soon come home to roost. And Angus Mustang, Thanks, Angus. Great work on your part all the time. D.C. is an Israeli settlement. Now, OctoSpock says, When such deep disagreements exist and have for thousands of years, very serious actions are necessary.

Does the good guy always win? Not always. But that is how countries settle such matters. Well, first of all, I would mention to you that the idea of the nation state is immoral. The political state is immoral. Forcing people to pay for somebody else's defense is immoral. Calling Israelis' actions in the Middle East is immoral, because they're not. The European Jews who came down there are not Semitic, most of them. It's not anti-Semitic, of course, just as a side note, to criticize policies of a polis. And I would say that all political systems are illegitimate because they're operated through force. 1800s when a group of Zionists, especially connected with the British Empire, started to make some moves to try to grab land that wasn't their land. And then as the British Empire

crumbled after World War I, they pushed it more and they had an agreement that came out with the Balfour Agreement. And then later later an agreement basically imposed on people there from the British Empire and agreements from other empires that were collapsing. Then you saw World War II and the rise of even more internationalism over the nation states, imposing that nation state. So I don't see how anybody can argue that the Israeli government is valid, that any state is valid, or that the Israeli government is valid there, and especially after its decades of expansion, and its absolutely hegemonic control over those people there. And I understand there's been a lot of back and forth with attacks and innocent people being killed on both sides. But if you look at the initiation of the conflict we're experiencing right now,

it goes right back to the people who want to establish a Jewish state in there, taking away other people's land. And that's what we're dealing with. We're dealing with their kids, their grandkids. And in some cases, some of those people might still be alive who were around in the 1950s, 1960s, during some of these conflicts like the Nakba and things like that. So their memories, I see very little difference.

I see a very high equivalency between what was done to the American Indians and what was done to the Palestinians, especially with all the agreements the American Indians got from the U.S. government that were then breached. 100%. So, I'll give you this. Where's my Aaron Maté quote? I've got it over here. To finish off the Israeli stuff, here it is. This is Aaron Maté. Earlier this month, Joe Biden said that an Israeli assault on Rafah would be a red

line. Now Biden's Pentagon is helping Israel plan an assault on Rafah. His red line is a green light. Headline? U.S. pushes to shape Israel's Rafah operation, not stop it. Good job, Aaron Maté. Biden warns of red line for Israel over Rafrafa. Hmm. Those don't seem to comport. And again, I don't see why I should be drawn into this. the classic philosophical question that's brought up by consequentialism, by utilitarianism, by a lack of morality in philosophy. And that is, and you can find this on, what is it? It's published by PBS. They have these terrible videos. There's two brothers, the Green brothers, Crash Course Philosophy. And they had one, and I mentioned this once before on my show, a couple of times on Liberty Conspiracy, but it's good to sort of settle in and comfortably discuss this,

I think, because the argument that was posed at the beginning of this program was, you know, Batman always gets the Joker and he has a strict no-kill policy. So Batman gets the Joker, they put him in Arkham Asylum, and then he escapes and kills more people. Isn't Batman kind of responsible for those deaths because he didn't kill the Joker? So that's what starts the video. So on that question, you answer, of course, no. The Joker's responsible for his own actions actions The Batman is not responsible If he doesn't kill the Joker And the Joker engages in more violence

And crimes against people The Batman has no responsibility To defend people And if that were the case And he had a moral responsibility To defend people As seen by someone else Like the Green Brothers in this video from PBS

Then he would have to operate all the time Trying to stop bad guys all the time. And he wouldn't have a choice. He's being enslaved by their philosophical mandates, right? So it's ridiculous. It's utterly stupid. But in addition to that, inside the video, they say, yeah, so imagine you're in the jungle on a tour. You're with 19 other people and a warlord captures you with a bunch of other armed warlords. And he puts a gun in your hand, makes it that you can't turn anywhere except towards those people and says he is going to kill all of those people unless you shoot one of those people. What would you do? So I asked the students, and I got to say, I got some great students.

This is a couple of years ago in this class. One of the students, Frank, awesome, smart, super kid. He says, you don't participate. You know, people like, oh, you turn the gun against the guy, you know, the warlord. No, you can't do that. He says, you let them kill you. I'm like, exactly. That's exactly it. Now, we're not even talking from a Christian perspective here. We're just talking about

sort of a basic innate sense that people might have or talking it through and you find commonality with people here. But the idea is that you are still making a choice, whether it's under duress or not. And it's not a greater good, which is the so-called greater good for the greater number of philosophy of Jeremy Bentham. He and his brother came up with the panopticon idea and other utilitarians that John Stuart Mill tried to clean up a little bit with his book on liberty. It's a pamphlet, late 1800s. But consequentialist theory, utilitarian theory is the greatest good for the greatest number. Well, first of all, that's unsupportable. It has an insupportable logical foundation, an illogical

foundation, because good is defined subjectively, what is good and what is bad, right? Now, in addition to that, you have morality, right? So you have valuation about what benefits my life or doesn't benefit my life. That's up to me. That's up to you. I can't tell you, right? That's an imposition. But in addition to that, you also have the morality of things. So even when, and this is a difficult thing, but many Christian people, if you look at Tolstoy, you look at Dostoevsky, they made these choices. They knew that in the end, even under duress, you still have a choice. The choice is to go with God, even if they take your life or not. And unfortunately, what tends to happen is people, they get into these abstract equations or false equivalencies, and they'll say, well, wouldn't it be better to shoot one person to save the 19? First of all, how do you know you can even trust the warlord

on a practical level? And second of all, you are taking the life. And it's not this, it's exactly the same thing as the soldier saying, well, I was just, I was just following orders. No, you have a choice. And yes, you will suffer the consequences of not making somebody else suffer. You will be the direct person who suffers. But you have a choice. Even when an evildoer is going to do wrong to you, or if you do something wrong to someone else, he's going to do, won't do wrong to you.

So at the end of that video, that PBS video, they say, of course, the answer is, you know, you would take the life to save the 19. And Batman should kill the Joker. That's where your tax money goes to. That's what public health is all about. Sacrificing the one. But, again, logically, it's unsupportable. Because there's no such thing as a thing called the public. It's not a person. giant blob. They retain their individuality.

And so when the government can target one individual for the betterment, so-called, according to the government, defined by them, of all, well, that means that every individual under that government umbrella is now a target and potentially at risk, which then undercuts the very argument of so-called public health. And it's the same thing for the General Welf general welfare clause of the U.S. Constitution. There is no such thing as government-defined general welfare.

Welfare is subjectively determined by the individual. I can't tell you what your welfare is, and you can't tell me. And so when they come up, even in the constitution, when they come up with the general welfare, the only thing that would contribute to the general welfare is the government saying, I'll leave you alone. That allows the general welfare to be expressed through society, through our voluntary interaction and through the market. That I think is very important to keep in mind. And so as I brought up in the first hour of the show.

The economics and the morality. They're tied together. And in my opinion. And we'll talk about this a little bit more. When we go into the environment. And the climate canard. I think it's very important to realize how many areas where they're telling people that this can be sacrificed for this reason, this can be sacrificed for this reason. And we'll finish off

with this. Tomorrow we'll talk about this some more. Surveillance. In the United States and also in Canada, we'll discuss the surveillance state, how much they're pushing, and also in Canada. We'll discuss the surveillance state, how much they're pushing, and also in Scotland, the police receiving hate crime training to go after anyone who shares flagged content online or in person if deemed so-called offensive. We'll talk all about that. And in addition to that, before we go, I do want to mention also that yesterday was a birthday. And if you're familiar with the Silk Road, don't know if you're familiar with the Silk Road. His name is Ross Ulbrich.

Let me show you a little bit of something. It's his birthday yesterday. 40th birthday in prison. Ross Ulbrich is celebrating his 40th birthday in prison today on March 27th. The darknet entrepreneur has been controversially imprisoned for nearly 11 years in the United States since he was 29. His mom has done great work. I think David interviewed his mom. Ross Ulbrich, a former physics student, founded Silk Road in 2011, an online marketplace that operated on the Tor network.

So you can't sell things to willing customers. And yes, there could have been some criminal activity, drugs, illicit goods and services. Perhaps people were engaging in selling prostitution. Perhaps there were other things going on there. Ross Ulbrich was not engaged in those things. And Ross Ulbrich was, I think, one of the first targets in the assault against cryptocurrency, Bitcoin in particular. And when you think about freedom of exchange, they're imprisoning him for life. He didn't harm anyone. And yet the United States will automatically impoverish your children to the tune of another $3.8 billion to send weapons to killed children in Gaza.

While Ross Ulbrich suffers in prison on his birthday. Amazing. Thanks so much for watching, everyone. Really glad that you're with us. I really appreciate you being here on The David Knight Show. What a great day. Such appreciation for all of you being here. We'll be here tomorrow.

We're going to have a great, great day tomorrow as well. Going to have some great guests tomorrow. And I welcome your comments. And please remember that it's Good Friday tomorrow. We'll talk a little bit about that as well. And if you have any thoughts about family, tradition, things like that, and the sacrifice that Good Friday represents, please join us for that tomorrow morning on The David Knight Show. Going to go a little bit over noontime now because we started a couple minutes late as I was getting Rockfin wrestled in.

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