The David Knight Show - Thu Episode #2006: BEST OF: Bodyoid Horrors, Soulless AI Agents And Trump’s Knucklehead Policies

Starting point is 00:00:00 I want to talk about this trial balloon of ethics that's been thrown out by MIT. And it was at the top of Drudge. I had a lot of people forward the articles to me. What Drudge focused on was an article from The Sun, which sensationalized some of this stuff, saying, well, we've got this idea that we could have body-oids, is what they call it, that we're going to grow human beings in artificial wombs and grow them from stem cells and so forth and so on. And we'll use them for spare parts. We'll use them for organ transfers. We might use them to test drugs and things like that, you know, a lot of these. And we might use them for

Starting point is 00:00:48 meat, is what the Sun says. Well, I'm not quite so sure that that's what they were saying when I looked at the study, but nevertheless, it was off the charts in terms of ethics, in terms of lack of ethics, I should say, whether they want to use these body weights for meat or not. And of course, we are living in a time when we have been, we've grown up watching entertainment, dystopian science fiction novels, and these people are doing their best to make every single one of these things come to reality. Soylent Green, of course, that's why we're talking about this. I was curious, why are they coming up with

Starting point is 00:01:35 this term Soylent? What does that even mean? And so, supposedly it was a combination of soy and lentils, and that's what they were telling people it was. When in reality it was actually cannibalism, recycled people. And in the movie, the movie is based on a book, a 1966 novel, Make Room, Make Room, and I you know overpopulation. So we've got to have make room for people. We've got to kill off people. Soylent was less sinister right then. It was just soy and lintel. They kept the Soylent and then when they put it in the movie, they made it a lot more sinister. The movie that was done in 73, the adaptation of the book that was done seven years earlier.

Starting point is 00:02:25 But what is it that MIT Technology Review is proposing? And I think that this really is just a probe of public opinion and of the state of public opinion on ethics. This is the title of their report, Ethically Sourced. And they don't put ethics or ethically sourced, and they don't put ethics or ethically sourced. They don't put that in quotes. So I say ethically sourced, spare human bodies could revolutionize medicine. The spare is in quotes, but the ethics is not in quotes. And they should put it in quotes because the ethics are

Starting point is 00:03:00 quite questionable. It would maybe be a spare human body, but the ethics are quite questionable. It would maybe be a spare human body, but the ethics are really questionable and made me think of Prince Andrew, or at least the guy who's formally known as Prince, who wrote his own book called Spare. That's what he referred to himself as. You know, in case the older brother died, I'm the spare that they have here to take the crown. But the report says, so why do so few drugs that enter clinical trials receive regulatory approval? Why is the waiting list for organ transplants so long? These challenges stem in large part from a common root cause, a severe shortage of ethically sourced human bodies.

Starting point is 00:03:47 And so they think that creating stem cells, creating bodies from stem cells, growing them from stem cells, they think that that would be ethical. And this gets to the whole issue of what are we? And I've had this discussion before with people who are selling transhumanism. These are people who look at us as some kind of an accident of nature, as complicated and as complex and as complementary as all of the different things in our existence are. I mean, when I say complementary, just look at sexual reproduction. How in the world could that evolve? It's all got to

Starting point is 00:04:22 be there at once or it doesn't work. And one of the things I enjoyed when I was doing homeschooling with the kids, and this is in Genesis, has some great curriculum with it. As I've said in the past, when I was going through school, they dumbed down biology into comparative anatomy, looking at skeletons even, not even the functioning of the amazing functioning of very, very different animals. They just would look at the skeletons and say, well this skeleton looks like that skeleton, so one must have evolved from the other one.

Starting point is 00:04:53 Well, the other alternative is that they have a common creator, a common designer. And when you actually look at it from that perspective, one of the things that the curriculum and answers in Genesis had that I really loved and anxious to do this with my grandson is the fact that they would talk about the uniqueness of all these different animals. Look at the giraffe with its long neck. And it's got a special thing under the brain to keep it from blacking out when it's got

Starting point is 00:05:26 a massive heart that pumps all that blood to the head that's up so high. And so you might be concerned that a giraffe would have this rush of blood and lose consciousness when it dips down to drink some water. Well, it turns out there's kind of a spongy-like thing that absorbs all that rush of pressure in their brain. Only giraffes have that, designed specifically for them. Or take a look at a woodpecker. Why is it that a woodpecker can beat its head against the, at a rapid rate, incessantly against the wood and not pass out? It's also got a kind of cushion there. And it has a long sticky tongue that after it gets a hole it can go in there probing for insects.

Starting point is 00:06:10 Now what good would a long sticky tongue do it if it didn't have the ability to create that hole? And it's got feet that let it latch on vertically onto a trunk. All these different things. Even the Bombardier Beetle. Right? You've got a Bombardierier beetle, puts these chemicals together and they have a little bomb that explodes. Well, how could that evolve? If you've got those, even if it had those specific chemicals that would make an explosion,

Starting point is 00:06:38 if they came together in the beetle, the beetle itself would explode. I mean, there's all these different things throughout nature that are fascinating to look at how the organisms actually work. But what they had us looking at in biology was skeletons. They didn't consider the unique function of these things. And so when you look at these bodyoids, this is a mentality that is rampant in so-called science that essentially removes life out of the equation. Where does life come from?

Starting point is 00:07:12 What is life? What is our consciousness? And so they look at this and they take the same approach that Aldous Huxley did in Brave New World saying we can make sure that these individuals don't have functioning brains. And again, there's not any program that we know of. I don't know, maybe some of these Silicon Valley people have got something going on the side that they're keeping hidden from us. I wouldn't be surprised.

Starting point is 00:07:36 But what they're doing is this part of it is a trial balloon to see how people are going to react. And so as they look at this, let me get this a little bit larger, small print here. So it said, it could be disturbing to characterize human bodies in commodifying terms, but the unavoidable reality is that the human biological materials are essentially commodities in medicine. Well, that's part of their problem, isn't it? It's one of the reasons why, because they have treated – think about this. You know, you go back to the Frankenstein movies, right?

Starting point is 00:08:10 There's a big deal about the body snatchers. They call the guys that would go out – the doctors would pay them to go dig up a recently dead body, and they call these guys resurrectionists, right? And they bring them in so they could do comparative anatomy studies and things like that, have cadavers to study anatomy with. Well, it starts out that way, and they continue to look at cadavers and people and bodies as a commodity, and what you wind up with is where we are today. We have pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer look at living people as commodities, that

Starting point is 00:08:54 they're just there for their own enrichment financially, their own profit. That's where this eventually leads. And so they said in this MIT study, they said, more than 100,000 patients are currently waiting for a solid organ transplant in the US alone. It forces us to rely on animals and medical science. And then also the safety and efficacy of any experimental drug must still be confirmed in clinical trials on living human bodies, does it? I thought that was over. Didn't we get rid of that? Yeah, we did get rid of that, didn't we?

Starting point is 00:09:29 Yeah, I mean now it's just now the USDA is approving vaccines for animals that we eat. They said it can take a decade or longer to complete. No, you just say it's an emergency and we're gonna do do it at warp speed and we're going to skip all the tests. That's what Trump did. And they said that when they do that, they only get approval 15% of the time. You think if they would have taken a decade to get the approval for the mRNA stuff, you think it would have passed?

Starting point is 00:09:57 Of course not. It wouldn't have even been close. So to say that we need to grow human bodies because we've got to test drugs, what a joke that is! Where have these people been? You know, they're selling you stuff here with this. And so, when you talk about the safety and the efficacy of this, they talk about organ transplants and so forth, then they talk about the commodifying of humans.

Starting point is 00:10:24 They never talk about what a human is. And this is what these transhumanists won't do either. Zoltan Isfahan, I interviewed him with the transhumanist party and I engaged him on that. I said, so what is a human? You know, what is consciousness? Is the brain simply a computer? Is it simply like RAM and ROM? And you can somehow, if you can grab those stored electrical charges somehow, you can reproduce who I am? Is that all that I am?

Starting point is 00:10:57 Well, of course, it all begs the question as to who created the computer, right? If you see somebody's computer, you might ask them. You don't see the label or you don't recognize the case, you might ask them who built it, but you don't think that that computer just assembled itself out of random chance processes, do you? Nobody does. And so the question is, how did we get to this point?

Starting point is 00:11:23 There might be a way to get out of this moral and scientific deadlock, they said. Well, actually they don't have the way. They said within the realm of plausibility that we could do something like this. So let's think about the ethics involved in it. They said you could use stem cells to create structures that seem to mimic the early development of actual human embryos. At the same time, artificial uterus technology is rapidly advancing. That's something to worry about. Seriously. Now, when the government can design humans, what do you think they're going to do to natural humans?

Starting point is 00:12:02 Other pathways may be opening to allow for the development of fetuses outside of the body, together outside of marriage, outside of the family, outside of motherhood. Our government folks, the CIA, our government has been focused on destroying the family my entire life. Deliberately it is a calculated campaign to destroy the family, to destroy

Starting point is 00:12:27 motherhood. It's been very successful. Most women don't even want to get married, let alone have children. Very successful. And all of that is preparation for them to be able to do a brave new world. And so now we have MIT pushing this as an ethical test. So they said, together with established genetic techniques to inhibit brain development, we could make it possible to envision the creation of body oids, a potentially unlimited source of human bodies developed entirely outside of a human body made out of stem cells that would lack sentience or the ability to feel pain." The epsilons of Brave New World, right?

Starting point is 00:13:14 That was what Huxley said. Well, you know, we're going to have hatcheries, we're going to have the government create these babies. And I think in the novel they deprived certain ones of oxygen. They wanted to have an alpha class that was going to be super smart so they would give them enhanced materials because again, all of this in their mind is simply material. God is out of the equation in all of this. And so they would give some of them enhanced nutrients and others, they would remove those nutrients from them. They said it's essentially cloning someone's biological

Starting point is 00:13:56 material to empower that transplanted tissues are perfect immunological match. You see, this has been a long-standing, if you want to know about the ethics of this stuff, this is the long-standing ethics, so-called, of the abortion industry. Well, it's just a clump of tissues. Well, it doesn't feel pain. Well, it doesn't have consciousness, even to the extent that you've had some of these so-called ethicists saying, �Well, we think that you could abort babies up to the ages of two or three. Now, if this guy has ever had a child or looked at a child, close up, and I think about this all the time.

Starting point is 00:14:36 I look at Travis' son. How could you look at a baby and even a baby, he's only like four months old, I guess. Yeah. Almost five. Almost five. Well, you know, you think about it, there are babies that were five months older than him that are being ripped apart. Now look at that all the time. I think what a monstrous evil that is. These people are talking about doing the same thing. We will grow a baby, we'll make sure that it doesn't feel pain, we'll make sure it doesn't know anything. Oh, you will? And then we'll use it for your benefit. And we'll clone it from you and we

Starting point is 00:15:14 might have something that is an exact genetic replica of you, a spare, so that we can test these drugs on your spare and see what it does to your spare so that you don't get hurt by the drug. You know, they do it in a general case, but they do it in a specific individualized case. This is the ultimate commodification. And it appeals to our selfishness, our desire to live forever, our desire to be lovers of self, essentially cloning somebody's biological material to ensure that transplanted tissues are a perfect immunological match, a personalized screening of drugs. We can even envision using animal bodyoids in agriculture as a substitute for the use

Starting point is 00:16:02 of sentient animal species." Well, you know, that's basically what Bill Gates had been talking about in terms of lab meat. They're just not talking about, I don't think at this point in time, who knows, but I don't think that they're talking about humans as lab meat. But I wouldn't put the possibility past them. They said exciting possibilities exist. They can't be sure whether such body-oids can survive without ever having developed brains though, or the parts of brains associated with consciousness. Body-oids could address many ethical questions in modern medicine, offering ways to avoid

Starting point is 00:16:41 unnecessary pain and suffering. We do not allow broad research on people who no longer have consciousness or in some cases never had it. Oh, so we'd have to change some of those things here. But at the same time, we know that much can be gained from studying the human body and doing that with people who have passed on. But again, it brings us back to what are we? You know, even animals have a spirit, right?

Starting point is 00:17:12 They have what I would think of as a soul. In other words, they have will, they have, you know, the part of the unconscious part of the body that is the brain that is organizing all the different parts of the body, sending out signals for parts of the body to operate. But also they do have will, and they do have basic animal instincts, and so do we. We have all that, but we have something else. We have something else that is created in the image of God. And so that is the question. You know, exactly what are we? Are we simply a bunch of electronic signals? Are we a clump of tissues? No, I don't think we're any of that. These people really don't understand what we are, but they have a call for action.

Starting point is 00:17:59 They said, until recently, the idea of making something like a bodyoid would have been relegated to the realm of science fiction and philosophical speculation, but now it is at least plausible, possibly revolutionary and it's time for it to be explored. It's time for it to be shut down, this idea. This is an abomination that anything like this would even be proposed. And it shows you how far we have gone. Look it's not... The people, you've got to be concerned about it.

Starting point is 00:18:26 It's not these attention-grabbing media whores at the temple of Satan. It's these people. These people. They're the ones pushing the real satanic agenda. There is no need to start with humans. We can begin exploring the feasibility of this approach with rodents or other research animals. And then work our way up to humans, you know.

Starting point is 00:18:50 As we proceed, the ethical and social issues are at least as important as the scientific ones. Just because something can be done does not mean that it should be done. Of course it shouldn't be done. But again, as I said, it's been sensationalized by the sun in the UK. Over my dead... this is their headline out of all that. Over my dead body. Spare human bodies grown in artificial wombs and lab as scientists insist body-oids feel no pain and can serve as meat.

Starting point is 00:19:22 And again, that is sensationalizing and spinning this even beyond what these people are talking about. But it boils down to three things. Testing drugs, which they don't do now anymore, right? The FDA exists to give legal cover to these people. And even when you talk about the black box labels for things like antibiotics and things like that, they exist to give legal immunity to the FDA for not doing its job and to the pharmaceutical companies who are willing to treat you as if you were a bodyoid to do whatever they wish to you to make money. So that's why they put the black box labels on. And then the doctors don't tell you, the black box labels on and then the doctors

Starting point is 00:20:05 don't tell you, the hospital doesn't tell you, the pharmacist doesn't tell you. So they say go sue the doctor, the pharmacist or the hospital. But hey, the FDA and the pharmaceutical companies have taken care of each other. They've given themselves an excuse. So they don't do testing. So they don't need it for that. You look at organ transplants and that is something that has been couched in abomination from the very beginning. Hello, it's me, Vladimir Zelensky. I'm so tired of wearing these same t-shirts everywhere for years. You'd think with all the billions I've skimmed off America, I could dress better.

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Starting point is 00:21:16 want to save on shipping just put it in the next package of bombs and missiles coming from the USA. Not just the digital currencies that are being set there, not just the graft and corruption of the Trump family of his cabinet that is there and the rest of it. But take a look at this. Apple is quietly working on an AI agent to replicate a human doctor. And of course, they're also working on incorporating this into their health app as well. I wonder if they're going to call this agent, Agent Smith. But again, the AI agents, as I was talking about this the other day, that's where there's going to be a lot of

Starting point is 00:22:08 change. You're going to hear that a great deal. AI agents have a lot of autonomy. You can give them a task and they can go out and do it. And if you combine AI with robotics, that is going to be an incredibly powerful thing and those two technologies are converging very quickly. It's one of the reasons why the Nvidia CEO is saying that you're going to have all these robots walking the street because they will have more intelligence and more autonomy and independence than the chat bots do. But going back to Apple's secret health program here, so the idea is to have a revamped health app that will collect all sorts of health

Starting point is 00:22:50 metrics. And it'll have major emphasis on tracking food. Now we've seen that from all these different health apps, you know, we've had phone apps like that and watch apps like that that have been there for a long time. But the key thing about this is going to be just how much more information it gets from you. And so a lot of people are saying, well, the problem with using this for health is that it hallucinates and all the rest of the stuff. But that's not really the issue.

Starting point is 00:23:18 And when we look at how all these different things are coming together, you've got got, as I said before, the executive for Figure talking about how these AI robots driven by AI agents are about to hit us in a massive way. The way he described it, he said, 2025 is going to be the iPhone moment for humanoid robots. Great. Great. A multi-trillion dollar market for humanoid robots. Robots to cook your meals, clean your house, do your laundry, tutor your kids, drive your car, cut your grass, take care of your elderly parents,

Starting point is 00:23:58 repair the plumbing, it'll help you across the street, and they'll shoot you in the head, if they tell it to, right? I mean, seriously, you know, when we look at all this stuff, I've made that comment about all these DARPA projects for the longest time. I say, oh look, it's just here to help veterans who have PTSD or it's here to help a little old lady cross the street or we're going to put a chip in your brain so that you can see again or we're going to repair the paralysis or whatever. And then what? Then what are these people going to do with it? That's the

Starting point is 00:24:25 question. So, Adcock, who is the founder of Figure, that's that robotic company that, you know, is very impressive, but talks with a California dude accent. So, there is an iPhone moment happening with humanoids right now. He said his robots are already working on the production line in BMW's Spartanburg factory. He said to succeed at this you have to do three things that have never been done before and you have to get all three of them right within the next five years or you are going to fail in the robotics industry. So they got a window and actually like I said before the Nvidia CEO said before five years is up, streets are going to be filled with robots.

Starting point is 00:25:08 So he said here's the three things that you're going to do. First thing, you've got to build hardware for humanoids that's incredibly complex that can never fail. Oh, that's good. I've seen a lot of technology that can never fail. Haven't you Travis? I've never seen any technology that doesn't fail. It's all fallible because it's made by fallible people.

Starting point is 00:25:26 Okay, so I think we just, maybe that's good news. Maybe if these things do fail, maybe they will have kind of a segway moment, you know, like when George Bush fell off the segway. Everybody's like, I don't know. Well, we'll see. It can never fail. And it's got to work at human speeds with human range of motion. The second thing you have is a neural net problem, not a control systems problem. You can't code your way out of this problem. You need to have a robot that can ingest human-like

Starting point is 00:25:55 data through a neural net and has to be able to imitate what humans do. You know, these health watches and other things like that's going to be a big help, right? Because what Apple is talking about in their new app is having its AI monitoring what you're doing and watching everything that everything these people are about. This is one of the things that is so creepy about it. Not only are they hell-bent on complete totalitarian control of us and our society, not only do they want to own everything, but they're also kind of disgusting voyeurs, you know, who want to just watch everything they were doing just to learn from us. Isn't that creepy? So he said, so you need to have a robot that can ingest human-like data through a neural net and has the ability

Starting point is 00:26:39 to imitate what humans do. Humanoid robots are not like arms bolted to a factory table. None of those robots have AI. And then finally the third problem. Third problem is that you have to generalize. He says this is the holy grail of robotics. To have a robot look at something it's never seen before or heard through speech and to be able to tell a robot how to do it and then to have it be able to complete that task end to end with one neural net. And that's kind of what they demonstrated when they gave those robots a task and put

Starting point is 00:27:12 a bunch of stuff in them they hadn't identified before and have to figure out what they do with it. He said, if you can solve those three things, then you're in the right decade. And you're at the iPhone moment. And we can confidently say that we have solved or are making major progress on all three problems. In other words, when he talks about an iPhone moment, he's talking about this technology being ubiquitous everywhere we see it.

Starting point is 00:27:37 He says, if we had 100,000 robots today that all worked, our two commercial customers would take them all. But he said, we're not able to do that because we haven't scaled up the supply change yet. And it's still early. He said, we could sign on 50 fortune 100 companies by the weekend. We are bombarded by demand. Listen to what he had to say. Okay. So they got demand for robots. Why? Because he said the supply of humans

Starting point is 00:28:06 is going down. They designed that as well, folks. Everything they did was a design for that. Socially, they've conditioned us to not want families and children. Physically, they have harmed our bodies with the drugs and the food additives and other things like that. And they have engaged in mass culling of people as well with their wars and their vaccines. There is unbounded demand. We could ship one million robots this month if they were all ready to go. And this is why I say they don't need immigrants except for the divide and conquer aspect of it.

Starting point is 00:28:46 It's the only reason they need them. You're listening to the David Knight Show. Autism is exploding. You don't need me to tell you that. Even the mainstream media is telling you that, but they're spinning it. And what is concerning is that the increase in autism is accelerating. You know, just like the deficit the curve has gone up in a steeper slope now a 17% increase between 2020 and 2022 17% increase that's huge and yet they want you to freak out about measles Would you rather have measles or autism for your children? Would you rather have measles or autism for your children? There is a lot more evidence of the damage from autism and it is far more widespread

Starting point is 00:30:13 than measles and yet they want you to focus on measles. So in 2020 it was up to one out of every 36 kids in 2020. And now it is one out of every 31 kids. And let's put it in percentages. Not that, you know, when you look at this, it went from 2.8% to 3.2%. It was a 17% increase in just two years. That's the bottom line. You know, we start talking about fractions, that gets a lot of people confused, like the

Starting point is 00:30:49 Trumps, you know. We were talking about that the other day. Travis was, what was it Travis that they had to change it? Oh, it's the sandwich, the quarter pounder or something. Yeah. I forget which burger company it was, but they'd take the third pounder off the menu because people kept thinking the quarter pounder was bigger and it just wasn't selling. Yeah, they probably, those people probably got jobs working for Peter Navarro in terms

Starting point is 00:31:15 of his tariff quotients, right? We got quotas and we got quotients and the numerator is you're cheating. The denominator is the stuff you buy from us and that's what your tariff quotient is going to be, right? And now we're going to set up quotas for that. That's crazy. But anyway, sticking to the... they like to quote these things. Now the number for boys is one out of 20 and in California one out of 12.5 in California. It's getting that bad. But the bottom line is that when we're talking about for boys it's much higher. Overall it went

Starting point is 00:31:50 from 2.8% to 3.2%, a 17% increase in just two years. But for boys it is 5%. 5%. And if you're talking about kids in California, I don't know if that's boys or if that's boys and girls in California, 8%, 8%. If the vaccine companies get their way, we're going to wind up having almost every child with autism in America. And that's no exaggeration. If they're going to stick these kids with 76 shots

Starting point is 00:32:22 by the time they're 18, this is what's going to happen and it is front loaded. They do the most of it when the child is really young and the body is growing and adjusting and the immune system is being set up. That's when they hit them when they're the most vulnerable and that's why we're seeing this kind of stuff. Nobody else does that. If you go back and you look at the CDC thing, you'll find out that they are giving kids four or five different dosages of things like MMR or all the rest of it, and clustering these things together. You go in for a doctor's visit and they give you six to eight shots. And it's that clustering where all of these shots, regardless of what they're giving it to you, we know that they deliberately put adjuvants in, things to irritate your immune

Starting point is 00:33:11 system, to try to get your immune system to attack what they just put in. That's the theory behind it. But all the stuff in every one of these vaccines has got stuff in there to irritate your immune system. And when you stack that stuff up and you keep doing it over and over and over again, guess what? Causes all kinds of immune diseases and many other things. The prevalence of autism in the US rose approximately 17 percent of those two years

Starting point is 00:33:40 and for boys it is 3.4 times more prevalent than for girls. They also found that it is 3.4 times more prevalent than for girls. They also found that it is more prevalent for Asian Pacific Islanders, Black and Hispanics than it is for white people. Oh, wow, okay. Can that, can we get their attention with that? Can we call it racist? So the level of autism among eight-year-olds has been steadily increasing for decades without

Starting point is 00:34:07 unbiased, real research into the likely causes. And this is what was so amazing. This is children's health defense. They're sticking to the line even though R.F.K. Jr. has abandoned this stuff. They're sticking to it. And what we saw with all of these heroes of the MAHA, you know, all these people who rose to the top and, you know, Jay Bhattacharya and RFK Jr. and

Starting point is 00:34:35 everything, we saw them bow the knee and kiss the ring there as Senator Cassidy said, you will denounce everything that you know is true or you're not going to get this position. And making them swear they're not going to take a look at autism and all the rest of this stuff. You're going to disavow that or you're not going to get in. And then even some of the people who were ready to disavow that, Dave Weldon was ready to disavow it as well.

Starting point is 00:35:06 He thought he was okay. He kissed the ring for Senator Cassidy. But Trump's got something else in mind. Trump wanted to bring in somebody who's going to be able to add AI to the mRNA vaccines. And so, you know, he got blindsided. But Trump brings in these people who have become, I think, unjustified heroes of the anti-vaccine movement. And they were able to get elevated to this position. He brings them in and they sell themselves out for power. So the autism epidemic has now reached a scale unprecedented in human history because

Starting point is 00:35:45 it affects the young. But don't you even suggest that we need to do any research to figure out what's going on with this? It's an epidemic, but it's an epidemic that nobody wants to talk about, right? They want to talk about non-epidemics like bird flu. They want to talk about non-epidemics like COVID, non-epidemics like measles. Oh, look, we have now tested and identified 700 people. Anybody really died from this? They say that two children have died, but Children's Health Defense looked at it, and those children died from malpractice. And first, they had privately talked to the father, and he did not want to get involved in the

Starting point is 00:36:29 back and forth about pro-vaccine or anti-vaccine. He just wanted to get out what the hospital had done to his child. And so they talked about that. I reported that. And then he's now directly speaking out, because this has gone on for so long he's directly speaking out against this. But Travis, pull up the chart that's in this article here, showing autism from the 1970s until 2025. So we're talking about 55 years. Look at that. In the 1970s and 1980s, 1 in 10,000, it was so rare that they had

Starting point is 00:37:08 to have an explanation in Rain Man as to what autism was for the audience, because nobody had ever heard of it before. Nobody understood anything about it. And I had never seen it either. Then, in 1995, it goes from 1 in 10,000, it goes to 1 in 1,000. Oh, well what had happened? Well, 1995. In 1986, they got their legal immunity. And they started sticking everybody with everything they could think of. And autism goes up by a factor of 10. So, the 1 in 10,000 is 1 in a thousand now.

Starting point is 00:37:46 Still very rare. I'd still never heard of it. Then, within another four years, it doubles. It goes from 1 in a thousand to 1 in 500. Then, by 2000, 1 in 150. By 2004, which is the first time I ever saw anybody that had it, 1 in 125 and so on. But you can look at this curve and you can see that we have now, going back to 2020, the slope has gone up significantly. So it is increasing even more rapidly. So something that was one in 10,000 in 1970 is now one in 31. And they don't want to look and do any research about this. And it's the people who are pushing back against it are the people who are running these autism.

Starting point is 00:38:40 Before we move on, I continually hear people use the refrain of, oh, well, they're just better at diagnosing autism now. Ma, that's what they, yeah. Really? Really? From one in 10,000 to one in 31, you think they're that much better at diagnosing it? They're really good. What kind of idiot are you? I know. They're really good, aren't they? And believe it or not, Travis, that is the tech that NBC does they can't escape the fact the CDC as Is going these numbers from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 31 so NBC does it and whether they do an exact alibi That's what they have put out there except for the fact that none of us ever saw them You know, they were few and far between that's right. What's the excuse?

Starting point is 00:39:21 They kept them locked up in the attic or basement? That's right. And when you look at the CDC's own data, it's not, they're saying, well, you know, they're better at looking at it because now they're calling even people who are high functioning with a little mild touch of autism or whatever, they're just lumping that all together as autism. And yet, when you look at the CDC data, the CDC data is talking about people who are severely impacted with autism. But again, go back to the example of that court case, you know, where you had the two

Starting point is 00:39:52 parents that vaccinated their kids and they're in a divorce and the judge is pro-vaccine. He says, he found out about it, he was outraged, whoever will give the vaccine, I'll let you have the custody of the kids. They take the kids out, three kids, and the daughter, they split it up for her, but we also see that it is much more targeted towards boys anyway, right? But they split it up for her because she already had some known allergic issues, but they gave all the catch-up shots to the two boys. One of them, the older one, well they both went into intensive care, one of them came

Starting point is 00:40:22 out after a few days. The other one has never come out of it because he has such severe autism that he's going to be in a diaper the rest of his life. He doesn't even completely blew him out. He's not there anymore for all practical purposes, but his father is having to take care of him because now the mother abandoned them after the mess that she created. And so that is a clear case. That is directly attributable to that. Now we saw that in a compressed time frame and

Starting point is 00:40:51 that's what these poisoners that we call the pharmaceutical industry is. What they like to do is they like to do it over a longer time frame so that they have plausible deniability that they've actually poisoned you. That's the game. But we know what it is. We do know what it is. In five of the CDC's study areas, autism rates are already higher among four-year-olds than they are with eight-year-olds. Why is that? Because they keep adding more and more vaccines. This is why the occurrence is going up, because they're adding more and more vaccines. It's never enough for them. These people are so addicted to money, to the love of money, they are so evil that they can't get enough of the money, which means that they can't vaccinate

Starting point is 00:41:36 you enough. There will never be enough. They will always be coming up with more vaccines and pushing them harder and harder. We're going to talk about what they're doing to parents who don't get their kids vaccinated as well here. But finishing up with this, that was what you pointed out, Travis, is exactly what they said and that's what children's health defense attacked. They said the data doesn't support the better diagnosis theory. CDC and mainstream media suggest that this is about being able to diagnose it better or that they have pulled in people who only are mild and we see this in the NBC news thing. Here's a headline, autism rates have risen to 1 in 31 school-aged children, says the

Starting point is 00:42:17 CDC report. And yet, about five paragraphs down, they say doctors are better than ever at identifying autism with awareness at an all-time high without a doubt We've become exceptionally efficient in this surveillance work. What a bunch of nonsense But that is the typical mainstream media spent. That's what NBC is telling people in this article and so They they go on to say NBC, there's a lot of things that we do not understand as of yet about autism. Quoting an expert who runs an autism group and he wants to keep this going, right? This is a growth industry for him. Let's just call it what it is. These

Starting point is 00:43:00 people are willing to kill you to destroy your children so they can make money. That is exactly what this is. There's a lot of things that we don't understand yet about autism, but one thing for certain is that vaccines do not cause autism. Well, if you can say that, if you can, how can you in the same sentence say we don't understand it, but we know that it's not caused by vaccines? Well then you're a liar because you've already made up your mind that you're going to ally with the vaccine companies that are building your business of treating autism.

Starting point is 00:43:31 And we're seeing the same kind of stuff when it comes to the heart attacks of kids who have been given the COVID shot. Oh, well, let's set up some foundations and we'll study this and we'll start giving the – what do you call the things, the electroshock stuff. You know, put that in the schools, right? And we'll do EKGs for all the kids who are going to participate in sports. But we're not going to talk about the root cause of it because that's the pharmaceutical companies and they've got enough money that they can bribe enough people in high places So

Starting point is 00:45:11 You're listening to the David Knight Show. This is the article that I had talked about and it's written by Ellen Hayes and I think it's an excellent article, How AI Proves Our Need for God. Artificial intelligence, she says, is impressive. It's creepy impressive. It can write a term paper in 30 seconds. It can design your dream kitchen. It can replicate the greatest artwork in history in a blink, and of course it can animate it and make it move and talk and all the rest of this stuff. It's moving fast and it's getting smarter and depending on who you ask, it might one

Starting point is 00:45:37 day replace everything from customer service reps to your therapist. We've all heard all this stuff. However, there are some things that it can't do. She says, it can't fall in love. It can't feel awe. It can't choose to forgive. It can't stare at the stars and ask, why me? It doesn't want anything and it doesn't care. And that's the point. See, all those things are the things that make us human. And even though they can fake falling in love or obsession or things like that, we saw that from the very beginning.

Starting point is 00:46:20 You know, why don't you ditch your wife and come with me?" We saw that put out in the movie Her, that had Joaquin Phoenix in it. And Ray Kurzweil really liked that because it kind of humanized AI and that type of thing. No, it's nonsense. It's science fiction. It can imitate that. It can look at scripts and books and things like that and it can imitate things, but it's not real. It's not real. It is a lie. She said, she referenced the book that was written by Brian Trilley and he was a co-author in it. The book is

Starting point is 00:46:59 called Soulless Intelligence, How AI Proves that we need God. AI isn't going to become sentient, it isn't going to wake up, and the fact that it can't, that gap between what it can do and what it will never be is exactly where we see the evidence of God. And I think this is what it's going to clarify what humans being made in the image of God is really about. It's going to clarify what it means to be human. And the guy who wrote this book is somebody who he and his brother, Greg, have spent years working in the field, in machine learning, in computer vision. They've built AI tools.

Starting point is 00:47:42 They've run top tier training programs. They've seen firsthand how powerful the technology can be and how it works. Somewhere along the line, however, Brian started asking the kind of questions that Silicon Valley doesn't like to answer. These are questions about souls, about meaning, about consciousness, and about what it means to be us. When I interviewed Zoltan Esfand of the Transhumanist Party, that's exactly what I asked him. I said, �So, you're going to transfer yourself into a machine at some point in the future, right? You're going to become a cyborg.� �Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm going to do that.� �Okay, what are you? What is it that you're transferring into that

Starting point is 00:48:18 machine?� He couldn't answer it. This person says, �People like Ray Kurzweil and Sam Altman genuinely believe that we will be able to upload our minds to machines and live forever. They think we are just patterns of information. But if that were true�and listen to this�we wouldn�t see things like terminal lucidity.� What do they mean by that? They mean dying Alzheimer�s patients who suddenly become lucid right before death. How did that happen?

Starting point is 00:48:47 I mean, if we're all just mechanical things and the mechanical stuff is breaking because of Alzheimer's, you know, you've got these things clogging your brain and you can't think, well then of course you should not be able to somehow recover that right before death. Or you've got people who have only 5% of a brain who score above average on IQ tests. Remember that young child who was born like almost all the back of the head was missing? So, or similar things where you have slime moles doing advanced math without a nervous system. Though if you think the brain is the only thing that makes us us, you've got a lot of explaining to do, she said. Brian says, the guy who wrote the book, he says there's something more, there's part of us that no machine can

Starting point is 00:49:42 replicate, something that is immaterial. Something that is eternal. Something like a soul. He says AI is helping us to see what makes us human by failing to be human. For all of its logic, for all of its speed, for all of its ability to mimic thought. It still can't choose to be kind. It can't desire goodness. It can't cry when a friend dies, or get goosebumps from a song, or fall to its knees in gratitude. And it never will. Think about that. That's what it is to be uniquely human. Animals don't do that. AI doesn't do that. And think about the fact that if that's what it means to be in the image of God, that's what God's like.

Starting point is 00:50:36 He says it's not just a philosophical point, it's a spiritual one. We try to recreate ourselves in silicon and it becomes more obvious that we are not just brains in meat suits. We are image bearers of God, and the image of God includes free will, moral agency, a hunger for beauty and truth and justice. And these things don't run on code. AI will never set its own goals. It doesn't have desires. It doesn't run on code. AI will never set its own goals. It doesn't have desires.

Starting point is 00:51:05 It doesn't have a will. You can lock it in a digital cage and it won't care. But a human in solitary confinement, that's torture. Why? Because we're in the image of God, which means that we want connection. We want meaning, transcendence. That is your soul that is talking. We're not just looking at an ethical dilemma here. We're looking at a worldview divide. Either we are programmable machines, brains in a meat suit, or we are sacred beings. Either way, the value comes from what we can do, or it's rooted in something that is much deeper, something that is uncopyable. And folks, you know, when we look at people like B.F. Skinner, talking about Beyond Freedom

Starting point is 00:51:56 and Dignity, these people are constantly pushing us. Did you say that we're nothing other than animals. But this person says, Brian, who wrote the book, says, if you define a person by intelligence or by consciousness, and these are things that exist on a spectrum, then you're saying that some lives matter less than others. This is how we get to the position of abortion. This is how we get to the position of euthanasia. We say some lives are more valuable than others because we're looking at things that are on a spectrum. So we're going to make an arbitrary decision at some point that, no, you don't matter. And we've even seen so-called

Starting point is 00:52:39 ethicists, what was his name, Peter something, I just thought about this, who suggested that maybe we abort kids up to the age of two or three, because they're still really not human, because they haven't reached a certain intellectual capability. And people are saying, what are you talking about? You see, that's where it ultimately leads, that kind of thinking. If somebody doesn't have sufficient intellectual capacity, then let's just kill them, not allow them to be born in the first place. And this is why Christians oppose abortion.

Starting point is 00:53:12 Because if you believe that every person has a soul, then every person has unshakable worth. It's not about our abilities, it's not about our consciousness, it's not about our mental capacity, it's not about our abilities. It's not about our consciousness. It's not about our mental capacity. It's not about whether or not we have a handicap. It's not about any of that stuff. He says that's not just theology. That's the foundation of human rights. You see, if you throw away that Christian foundation that we are souls created by God. So that's why that's

Starting point is 00:53:47 in that first part of the Declaration of Independence. People who are atheists need to understand this. You know, we are created with certain inalienable rights. So we are created. And we have those rights because we are created in the image of God. And so it's also why AI cannot be the moral compass for our future. It doesn't have a compass. It's just an objective function. Human dignity doesn't come from capability. It comes from being made in the image of someone greater. And that's why B.F. Skinner, when he talks about being beyond freedom and dignity, if you don't have, if you respect for people as being in the image of God, then of course you have no dignity. And your animal nature—and he is very effective at this, and you know, they—again, B.F. Skinner is

Starting point is 00:54:36 beyond freedom and dignity, and that's what Karen came home with when she was getting her master's degree in education. I said, well that's chilling to see that that's the way that the government and the government schools view young children as beyond freedom and dignity. They view them as dogs or dolphins or carrier pigeons to be trained. And of course you can manipulate people, those positive and negative operant conditioning. You can do that because you can manipulate the physical side of us, the animal side of us, that is not the soul. The soul can basically just be passive and not involved, and you can control people like animals. Genesis said that God breathed life into Adam's nostrils, and that's the difference. It wasn't code, it wasn't logic, it was a breath. It was spirit,

Starting point is 00:55:24 it was soul. And that is what AI is missing in a world racing to replace humanity with smarter, faster machines. We need something to remind us why we matter in the first place. We matter not because we're useful. We matter not because we're efficient. We matter because we're humans created in the image of God. And no machine, no matter how advanced, will ever be that. The The The Making sense, Common again. You're listening to the David Knight Show. Your AI digital twin can take your meetings and can comfort your loved ones when you die, it says.

Starting point is 00:57:51 And we've got several companies that are working on that. If artificial intelligence could stand in for you, if it could take your meetings, if it could answer your emails, if it could even comfort your loved ones long after you're gone, would you let it? They said that's no longer a hypothetical question. A new class of startups is building digital twins using AI agents. AI replicas of real people that act, speak and remember just like their human counterparts. And this story really kind of talks about two different aspects of this.

Starting point is 00:58:22 One of them is basically cloning you and what you believe. In other words, training it to respond as you would respond, to see the world as you would see the world and that type of thing. The other one is talking about actually the AI agency where you would have it do tasks for you and relieve you of all the mundane things that you do on a regular basis. So it said, �A new class of startups is starting digital twins, AI replicas of real people that act, speak and remember, just like their human counterparts.

Starting point is 00:58:58 There is a serious attempt to capture human essence and machine form with real world use cases and profound cultural implications.� Well, to capture the human essence and machine form with real world use cases and profound cultural implications?" Well, to capture the human essence, what is that really? As we said, these post-humanists that are out there, these people who talk about singularity, how they're going to merge with machines, it's like how they're going to transfer their essence into some kind of a robot or something so that they can, quote, live forever. I said, well, you don't even know what you are if you think that. You can't transfer your spirit in there.

Starting point is 00:59:35 You are more than a collection of memories or electrical impulses. Somebody can make a copy of you, and that's a big part of what they're talking about here, is making a copy of people. There is a company in South Korea that is called Re-Memory and they're pioneering the concept of allowing bereaved families to speak to a hyper-realistic AI version of their deceased loved one and Deep Brain AI is the company behind the service they called it a tool for healing critics have called it grotesque Dan Thompson founder and CEO of a company called Sensei didn't set out to build a startup he was actually writing a book he said I'd hit my head I've lost my memory That experience struck me with the fear of disappearing. That's a weird way to look

Starting point is 01:00:30 at it. Sensei creates AI replicas of individuals. Thompson calls them virtual humans or personas. Now this has become a thing and they're just referred to them as sonas. Sonas. It's a persona. a thing and they're just referred to them as sonas. Sonas. Is there a person on this? They've been trained using documents, videos, interviews, emails and more. They don't just sound like you, they act on your behalf. He said, I've had people interact with my replica for hours on Telegram and not realize that it wasn't me. He said it's 90 to 95 percent indistinguishable. So their sonas, their replicas, are embedded into apps, websites, devices, and they learn continuously. One interesting aspect is that the digital replica can continue to grow and evolve once

Starting point is 01:01:14 the training is over. If a replica evolves after death though, is it still you? You know, it's kind of interesting. It makes me, when I see this, it makes me think of the first Superman movie with Christopher Reeve. And, you know, they've got the baby is making the journey from Krypton to Earth. And as he's in there, his father, Marlon Brando, or at least a persona, a sona of him, right, is interacting and talking to the baby, answering questions, training the baby, all the rest of this stuff.

Starting point is 01:01:52 And that's basically what their idea is. It is to create a replica of you that would be able to interact, be interactive, but it would interact with people by imitating you. Ben Gertzell is the chief AI advisor of a company called Twin Protocol. Ben Gertzell is, as they call him, an AI luminary. He's somebody that everybody in the AI industry really likes. When I interviewed Hugo de Gares multiple times, he said, you know, you really need to talk to my friend, Ben Gertzel. I was like, well, you know, Hugo was something of a skeptic about this stuff, right? He was the opposite of Ray Kurzweil, and he was skeptical that this may not all turn out too good, right? But Ben Gertzel

Starting point is 01:02:41 was, but he was still, you know, pushing AI, still gonna do it, and like all of his scientific friends, even though he thought he was creating a god-like superintelligence and that there was a good chance that it would kill us all, he still wanted to do it. Ben Gertzell was even more into that, so I never did interview Ben, because I didn't want to push that But you know it was Ben Gertzell was behind the company that made and you've seen the picture I've shown it as well in the past There's some female robot that they had there in Saudi Arabia That was it didn't really have all that impressive and animatronics wasn't all that much different from a Disney thing or something, but

Starting point is 01:03:24 It was interactive. They gave it citizenship in Saudi Arabia. Mohammed bin Salman did to show how trendy and progressive they are. They've got a robot. They made the robot the first citizen of a country. Well, that was Ben Gertzell who was behind that. He's also there with Twin Protocol, a company that focuses on vaults, which are curated data sets of your books, your lectures, your videos, your voice memos.

Starting point is 01:03:51 You know, you got about 6,000 hours of my stuff, you know. Usually create one of those things. An AI layer that captures your tone, your style, your diction, your intent, an interactive version of you that responds with your knowledge and in your voice. An AI twin isn't about perfect replication, they said, it's about purpose. It's about legacy conversations, professional coaching. Curation matters, they said. Your AI twin, however, when we talk about the agents, it might be your calendar assistant,

Starting point is 01:04:23 it might be your family archivist, your lifelong productivity partner. It could become a tool of self-reflection, they said. Your twin can actually show you insights about yourself. It's like a mirror but smarter. Oh, mirror, mirror on the wall. Who's the smartest of them all? Not you, dummy. You're asking me questions. I'm just AI. You start seeing patterns though in your own thinking if you do this, they said. And it also is set up to work with the Singularity Net ecosystem. That's what I'm saying. These people are fully on board with transhumanism, posthumanism, cyborgsgs and all the rest of this stuff. It is a very evil secular movement.

Starting point is 01:05:09 Users maintain control over their vaults, over their replicas, right down to their ability to shut it all off. It's integrated within the blockchain to verify the source of all training data. In a world of deep fakes, provenance is power. Provenance, in other words, who created it. I haven't talked about it for a while, but Coalition for Content Provenance and Authentication, the CCPA. I refer to it as the Chinese Communist Party of America. But that's a coalition that's put together by hardware and software groups. We had ARM and the processors that are part of that was the hardware.

Starting point is 01:05:48 Intel was a part of it. Microsoft as well as Adobe on the software side and then they team with government and media because they want to be able to put this on machines and stop you from creating written work, audio work, still picture, memes, video, anything. If you are not an approved person, then they will have this coalition for content provenance and authentication. They're going to see who created it. And if you are not on their approved list of creators, you won't even be able to upload

Starting point is 01:06:24 the stuff. That's how they stop things from going viral. So yeah, that's um, that all fits into this stuff. Curated AI twins could serve as mentors, tutors, or interactive textbooks. Bringing first-hand voices into classrooms or allowing students to ask questions to a digital version of a historical figure. You know, like Superman interacting with his Marlon Brando father there. We're building trusted extensions. Your twin should be able to do work for you without even, without ever forgetting that

Starting point is 01:06:56 it's yours. No, isn't that great? Also makes me think of that comedy with Michael Keaton called Multiplicity, where he's able to go in and just clone physical copies of himself, and they come out the same age and maturity as he is instantaneously, right? But they're helping him with work. It's basically an AI agent. So what these people are doing, except their agent is going to work in the virtual world,

Starting point is 01:07:23 his were actually physical. And so it was great. It freed him up for all kinds of stuff. And then his clone decided that it needed help. And so it made a copy of itself. And you know, just like if you got a photocopier, a copy of a copy isn't quite as sharp. And his copy that he cloned really wasn't very sharp. And that was where the comedy was coming in. Anyway, Harvard

Starting point is 01:07:50 research suggests that a well-used personal assistant could recover up to 45 percent of a person's time even if an AI twin gives you back 20 percent. That would be transformative, wouldn't it? What could you do with that time? Who could you spend with it? Again, you know, that's the question that was answered by that and that they had a lot of fun with in that movie. Multiplicit. You're listening to The David Knight Show. Now there is a Supreme Court case that is going to decide whether parents who have abandoned their child to the state, to the state education system, whether they can tell these school system that they need to, that they want to opt out of certain types of, let's say, corruption of minors

Starting point is 01:09:45 because it really is, you know, what's being done, in my opinion, by these school boards ought to be charged as a felony. You know, the moral corruption of a minor, that used to be a crime. Now it is a school board policy. An interfaith group of parents say that forcing elementary school children to participate in an instruction that contradicts their religious beliefs on sex and gender violates their First Amendment rights. This is in Maryland's largest school district.

Starting point is 01:10:13 The Montgomery County Board of Education sparked a firestorm in March of 2023 when it notified parents that they will no longer be able to opt their elementary level students out of instructions involving books on gender and sexuality. Now it's kind of interesting because first of all, we're talking about kids that are pre-kindergarten, pre-kindergarten through fifth grade. What is pre-kindergarten? Is that like three years old? Do you know?

Starting point is 01:10:43 I guess, I don't know. I mean, I never did kindergarten as a child, so I don't know. And we never put our kids in school, so I have no idea. Maybe this is like starting at three years old, going up to fifth grade. And what they did was they put in a lot of LGB themed storybooks, they call it, right? Yeah. Things like this, Pride Puppy, where you see a pride parade being elevated. Or, What Are Your Words? This centers on a child whose pronouns change quote, like the weather unquote. And Love, comma, Violet. comma violet a story about a same-sex playground romance what what is a playground romance whether it's same sex or opposite sex that's inappropriate right that really should be considered for what it is which is corruption of

Starting point is 01:11:39 minors think about the fact that the school board wants adults to read dirty stories to kids as young as three years old. Inappropriate. And it's corruption of minors. That, in a lot of jurisdictions, is a felony. And so that was in November of 2022. And they said, don't worry, we'll let you opt out of it. So first they rolled the stuff out and they said, that's okay, maybe pushing the envelope here to push lesbian playground sex on your three-year-old, but hey, you can opt out of it. And then that was November.

Starting point is 01:12:20 By the following March, they said, no, we're not gonna let you opt out of it. So that you would retain the right to get your child out of this. Well, no, once you've taken them to the school, you have abandoned your child to the state. And again, in a sane world, these teachers, these school board members would be arrested and charged with a felony for corruption of minors. These parents, on the other hand, are demanding that this corrupt system, I mean think about this, you know, look at how pervasive this is.

Starting point is 01:12:58 From the school board on down and saying, no, weíre not going to let you opt out. Weíre going to demand that we get to groom your children and pre-kindergarten and to early sex.î These brave new schools, these people are sending their kids to this school? How clueless is that? Under the assurance that they're going to be able to take them out of that particular class Well, if these people can be doing that with that book, what else do you think they're going to be doing? and So these people are doing it why because they want a free government education You don't want to take care of your kids. You don't want to take responsibility kids.

Starting point is 01:13:47 You want a free government education, so you're going to put them in the hands of these pedophiles. And so the parents push back. They're suing them in court for their free education. One of the lawyers there said, well, not every family is in a position to homeschool their children or to send them to a private school. That is not an option financially for some of them. You know, I've known a lot of very poor parents who homeschool their kids because it was a priority for them.

Starting point is 01:14:21 You don't need to have any of this stuff. You absolutely don't need to have it. And you have to ask yourself, do you love your money more than you love your child? It's just that simple. And they have abandoned their kids to these pedophiles running this school, who are corrupting minors down to three years old So the Supreme Court appears to side with parents in this religious liberty dispute over the storybooks and let me say to you This is a trap

Starting point is 01:14:57 This school has gone over the line far enough that they got to pull it back Give you the assurance that something is being done. We see this over and over again. Oh Look, they've got to pull it back, give you the assurance that something is being done. We see this over and over again. Oh, look, we've got Robert Kennedy and RFK Jr. is in place. So now he's going to do something about autism and vaccines. You can trust him. He's going to do it. Or we have Tulsi Gabbard who says, �My responsibility is to restore trust in the intelligence communities.�

Starting point is 01:15:24 No, now we can trust the spies, we can trust the FDA and all of these drug companies because RFK Junior is there, we can trust the spies because Tulsi Gabbard is there, we can trust the schools because the Supreme Court says that if you know about this and you don't like it, then these teachers who are there, and ask yourself, what kind of an institution is this where somebody who's a teacher would work in this kind of an environment and not be a whistleblower or not quit in disgust or whatever? Yeah, you might be there trying to save some of the kids or whatever, but you're going to put your kid in that kind of a situation?

Starting point is 01:16:03 Why don't you just take them for daycare to a strip club? Seriously? Because it's free? And you think the schools are free? You really do? It's like what I told that person from the Raleigh City Council who was wanting public transportation in Raleigh. She just got back from the Soviet Union before it fell.

Starting point is 01:16:23 He said, I could go anywhere in Moscow for just a nickel on their pub. We need that here in Raleigh. And I said, it costs you everything to have that kind of a system. It doesn't cost a nickel to ride that. It costs you everything. These schools are not free. They cost us everything. And I, for one, am sick and tired of these property taxes that never end.

Starting point is 01:16:47 We are perpetual renters. And you're going to find that when inflation kicks up, if you've got a mortgage and you can still cover the mortgage, you're going to find that there's not going to be any protection against the property taxes. They're going to continue to escalate. And you're going to find, if you stay in your house for very long, you're going to find that the property taxes are many times what your mortgage bill was.

Starting point is 01:17:13 And what are you paying those for? So that a bunch of a-feet liberal pedophiles can manipulate your kids in school? But it's okay, because the Supreme Court is going to stand with you if it gets too far out of control, really? And why do we want to put our kids in school, but it's okay because the Supreme Court is going to stand with you if it gets too far out of control, really. And why do we want to put our kids in school? Is it just daycare? Because you don't want to be around your kids? Thirty percent of Illinois fourth graders can read at proficiency standards, which means for the numerically challenged that 70% can't. Can't read.

Starting point is 01:17:50 The school systems are a joke, and yet this is in Illinois, and Illinois is currently going to war with homeschoolers. Oh, I've got to know what your curriculum is, and you've got to tell me what your curriculum is and how it's changing and all the rest of the stuff. It's like, hey, fix your own house first. I've told people when they were, well, I don't know if I can do homeschooling. I say, you can't possibly do worse than the government when it comes to academics. You can't possibly do worse. And you can shield your kids from these pedophiles and their policies that are designed to corrupt

Starting point is 01:18:27 minors. That's what you can do. And if that's all that you do, and if your kids come out as illiterate and ignorant as a government school child, well, at least you've protected them from what would be attacking them and their spirit. You couldn't possibly do worse than the school. So as bad as that is, 70% can't read at level. They found that Illinois finished 29th in the country.

Starting point is 01:19:00 That would mean that there are 21 states that are worse than that, where even more than 70% can't read at level. I'll just finish with this. Nine Chinese Christians have received prison sentences and fines because they distributed Bibles. You know, when we were doing homeschooling, we'd go around to the homeschool conventions where they would – we basically would go to see the curriculum stuff that was there and everything. And it was pretty amazing when Karen and I did it. We saw that, you know, so much – there was a big, you know, revival of teaching materials

Starting point is 01:19:44 that had been used in the 18th and 19th century, the 17th and 1800s, okay? And they were all focused on the Bible. And it became pretty evident that in early America, the reason that you wanted to learn to read was so that you could read the Bible and know what God wanted you to know. And that was the focus on all the early reading. And of course they read at a much higher level too. You know, they're reading like King James Bible.

Starting point is 01:20:14 It was, see Jane, run, run Jane, run. No, it wasn't that. It's a much higher level. They're much better educated. And so it was the Bible that they wanted to read, and here we don't care what is read to our children in school, do we? For the most part. And we pay to a system that even, you know, most of the kids, parents, are not going to be opting out of that.

Starting point is 01:20:47 So I'm being taxed to read sexual grooming material to three-year-olds. That's what I'm paying property taxes for and what you're paying property taxes for. That really makes me angry. I can opt my kids out, but I can't opt out of the property taxes of this education system. And the financial aspect of this, and I have to pay for that. This is why when I engaged the Jefferson reenactor at Colonial Williamsburg and other places where he would come to Raleigh and he would do some of the conservative think tanks that were there. And I went to at least two of those and engaged him again.

Starting point is 01:21:32 He probably recognized me. But I said, you know, you said that it was in your religious freedom, because that was a thing that Jefferson in real life was most proud of, and he wanted that on his tombstone, religious liberty, more so than the Declaration of Independence. So I said, you talk about how it's immoral to force people to pay to put out an opinion that they abhor. I said, so what about schools?

Starting point is 01:22:04 What about schools? I abhor what is happening with this stuff. Now that wasn't happening when I, that was back in the, that was back in the late 80s and early 90s when I did that. But I abhor what is being done here. And as far as I'm concerned, I am being forced to support the established government religion of pagan pedophilia, which is what's taken over our schools. It is pagan pedophilia. It is a religion. That, along with the religion of climate change and woke Marxism and all the rest of this

Starting point is 01:22:40 stuff, it's not woke Marxism, it's just full-on Marxism. I'm forced to pay for that. And that bothers me a great deal. Well, these Chinese Christians, what were they fined for? They got sentences up to four years and up to $136,000. Now, people in China are not that wealthy. I mean, $136,000, that's a big fine for anybody, even in America. But in China, that's ruinous. And you're telling me that you can't afford to homeschool your kids?

Starting point is 01:23:13 These people will do this for their religious beliefs? See, these are real Christians. They're not playing at this kind of stuff. They sincerely believe what they're doing. The charges and arrests come from 2021. These Christians bought legally published Bibles in Nanjing, but they ended up selling and distributing them at much lower prices as they wanted to share God's Word as a means of evangelism. So the Christians are found guilty of illegal business operations

Starting point is 01:23:45 because the group was part of a house church that was unregistered, and they refused to join the government-sanctioned and controlled three-self patriotic movement in China. That's what they call it. The three-self person or whatever. It's a weird thing. They don't understand the Trinity, obviously. They are actually kind of funny in their ignorance, demanding that if you put up a, in their government-approved churches, if you put up a crucifix, you've got to put a picture of she and Mal on either side. Obviously they've never read the part about the two thieves being on either side of the cross, and they are reproducing that.

Starting point is 01:24:26 But that's what it means to these people. They'll go to jail. They'll be economically ruined in order to educate people about what the truth is. Oh, but no, I want my free government school education for my children. You're listening to the David Knight Show. I saw this on the hill and frankly it kind of made my blood boil. Trump in an interview with the Atlantic on Monday said I run the country in the world. Really? I looked at that and I thought, well, you know, George Washington is spinning in his grave, isn't he? You know, the King of England said about George Washington, when he stepped down at the end

Starting point is 01:25:54 of his second term and said an example that everybody followed until you had FDR. And then because he accrued that power to himself, people said, you know, okay, we're going to put it in the law everybody else Voluntarily followed the example of George Washington King George is reported to have said the greatest man in the world. He walked away from power like that He didn't want to be a king. Now. We've got somebody who is the anti Washington, right? The anti-Washington, Donald Trump. It's the polar opposite of everything that George Washington was.

Starting point is 01:26:30 George Washington can tell a lie, we're told. Now Trump can't tell the truth. George Washington is going to leave after two terms voluntarily and set an example. Donald Trump wants to run for a third term. And his imagination thinks that he's going to live forever, I guess. I don't know. He's just like all of these other power-hungry politicians that we've seen. Whether you're talking about Dianne Feinstein or Ruth Vader Ginsburg, all of them. They've got to be... Mitch McConnell, his nemesis, they've all got to be carried out feet first. They will die in office because apart from them, life has no meaning if they're out of

Starting point is 01:27:15 political power. It's all just about the power and the money and they don't care. Nancy Pelosi, retired, now she's back. Just can't give it up. And so, you know, it's, it really is an abomination, folks, to even aspire to be the, to run the country, let alone the world. To run the country. And yet, this is what everybody wants, isn't it? Both factions, both Republicans and Democrats, both of them want their party and the president to run the country.

Starting point is 01:27:53 And this is the path to civil war. We don't want that. Here's the positive vision for what we want. And that is a free country that doesn't have a dictator elected. You know, it isn't a... And really, if we've got a dictator, do you really think there's going to be elections? Do you really think there weren't elections that we had? Are these people so elected? This is the opposite of what we want. So he says in an interview with the Atlantic that aired yesterday, that was released yesterday, and you just watch. You'll see Breitbart, Alex Jones, W&T,

Starting point is 01:28:26 all the different conservatives. They'll all be cheering this. Like, hey, Trump is running the country in the world. They're all going to cheer that. They don't want limited government. They just want their way. And it never works out that way. You're going to get there's some you just as we were talking about the electrical grid and how you had to have inertia in the system. And it never works out that way.

Starting point is 01:28:45 Just as we were talking about the electrical grid and how you had to have inertia in the system, that's what the Constitution and the rule of law gives us. It gives us inertia in our political system so that we're not whipped back and forth with a dictator who can set up there and arbitrarily put on taxes one day and then within 12 or 24 hours take them off again with tariffs So Trump said to the Atlantic he this is the quote He said the first time I had two things to do run the country and survive I had all these crooked guys the second time I run the country and the world

Starting point is 01:29:22 What arrogant hubris and people are laughing at him in the rest of the world. What arrogant hubris. And people are laughing at him in the rest of the world. They really are. On trade, Trump's rollercoaster has rattled the global markets, raised economic anxiety. He has pushed taking over Greenland, whether the people wanted or not. Taking overland, whether the people wanted or not, taking over Canada, whether the people wanted it or not. While speaking with the Atlantic, the President also commented on the possibility, of course, of a third run for presidency. Because again, it's all about ego and power.

Starting point is 01:29:58 And because he thinks he's God, he thinks he's going to live forever as well. Something he's previously flirted with, but now GOP lawmakers have largely agreed with this. So, from the Rutherford Institute, John Whitehead, you can also find this on Freethought Project, how a president becomes a dictator. How do you become dictators? By executive order, as I've said. You know, we look at what Trump did in 2020. That was medical martial law.

Starting point is 01:30:30 I'm going to use a fake pandemic that doesn't even exist to give dictatorial powers to myself. He starts with a quote from Ayn Rand, who says, we are fast approaching the stage of ultimate inversion, the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases while the citizens may act only by permission, which is the stage of the darkest period of human history, the stage of rule by brute force.� Well, I was not familiar with that quote, and I have said for the longest time that the government has inverted everything. You look at the 9th and 10th Amendment, you know, and they make it

Starting point is 01:31:11 clear that if you don't specifically have those powers delegated to you by the states and by the people, you don't have them. And now what they say is, we have all power, and you just try to take it from us. That's the game they play. We've got all power. We have the ability to know everything about you, but you're not allowed to know anything about us, because that would be a violation of our national security. And so they have inverted everything. Everything is permitted for them, unless expressly denied, and even if you expressly deny it, unless expressly denied. And even if you expressly deny it, they still do it.

Starting point is 01:31:49 Take a look at the First and Second Amendment, and what Trump is doing, and what Biden is doing with gun control and other issues, and what Trump did with gun control the first time through. He was expressly forbidden to do what he did. Congress and courts are not allowed to infringe on our God-given liberties of self-defense and carrying firearms. And yet, they do it all the time. Trump is the first one to do it by executive order, of course, by executive order.

Starting point is 01:32:17 Red flag gun laws, banning bump stocks, banning pistol braces. He removed that brace just before he left, he left office but then the pistol brace executive order was brought back in by Biden. But it was originally a Trump executive order as well because he's a New York Democrat. He's a New York Democrat folks. And so they were fast approaching this stage of ultimate inversion. No, we, she was writing that middle of the 20th century. of ultimate inversion? No, we, she was writing that middle of the 20th century, we've long ago passed that point of inversion. So John Whitehead, Rutherford Institute, says 130 executive orders in under 100 days and Trump is proud of that. He's really proud of it and so are his supporters. Sweeping powers claimed

Starting point is 01:33:05 in the name of security and efficiency. One president acting as lawmaker, enforcer and judge. No debate, no oversight, no limits. This is how the Constitution dies. Not with a coup but with a pin. The unitary executive theory is no longer a theory. It is the architecture of a dictatorship in motion. Where past presidents have used executive order decrees and memorandums and proclamations and national security directives and legislative signing statements to circumvent Congress or to sidestep the law, President Trump is using executive orders to advance his unitary executive theory of governance, a thinly disguised excuse for government by fiat.

Starting point is 01:33:54 Fiat by order. Fascism. Yeah. Um, we have fake emergencies, like the fentanyl emergency from Canada. Yeah. Uh, and then the big one that everybody seems to not care about anymore. That, uh, fake emergency of a COVID pandemic five years ago, uh, how he went out of office and now he begins with fake, immediately begins with another fake emergency. Well, now we got fentanyl coming in from Canada.

Starting point is 01:34:28 We had COVID coming in from China. And now we got fentanyl from China. And it's all from Canada. Now it's all nonsense. It's all nonsense. And you got everybody selling this now. He set up a page on the White House website about the gain of function, release of a COVID pandemic?

Starting point is 01:34:48 There was no pandemic. There was no pandemic, folks. It was him killing people. It was him responsible for killing people because it was his policies, his executive orders and his cash that was incentivizing these avaricious, greedy hospitals to do the types of things that were killing people by masses. But of course, that was nothing compared to the bio-weapon that he was so proud of being the father of.

Starting point is 01:35:18 And when that went out, it spiked straight up. So this is what government by fiat looks like. Congress was once the nation's lawmaking body. It's now been eclipsed by a deluge of executive directives, each one issued without public debate, without legislative compromise, and without judicial review. And of course, the swamp is the bureaucracy that is under the President, and that's what I was saying throughout Trump's first term. If he wants to drain the swamp, the swamp begins with him.

Starting point is 01:35:53 He's king of the swamp, literally. I mean, not just the fact that, you know, he's president, but it's his branch of government that he wouldn't do anything about. Well, they started out with Doge this time, and we'll see what happens with that. Nothing really has happened with it. But the bureaucracy is really part of the executive branch as well. But now he's extended this. John Whitehead is saying, you know, we had all these other things.

Starting point is 01:36:19 We had presidential signing statements, and we had memorandums and proclamations of national security directives, and we had memorandums and proclamations of national security directives and we had rule by the bureaucracy but now we have the unitary executive who's just going to rule as a dictator. Tsar. We have the Trump has now made himself the tariff Tsar. It's bad enough that we had a drug war Tsar back in the day. Represent still do. We got a border Tsar, we got a drug war czar, we got czars and all these other, well it was just a matter of time before the president openly owns the

Starting point is 01:36:55 term czar. It represents a radical shift in how power is exercised in America, says Whitehead. From trade and immigration to surveillance to regulation of speech. Yes, that's right. Trump is censoring just like Biden did except for different political purposes, right? But yeah, he's gonna get rid of the First Amendment as well. And policing. The president is claiming broad powers that traditionally reside with legislative and judicial branches.

Starting point is 01:37:27 Some orders invoke national security in order to disrupt global markets. Others attempt to override congressional control over tariffs, or fast-track weapons exports, or alter long-standing public protections through regulatory rollbacks. A few go even further, flirting with ideologically loyal tests for citizenship, chilling dissent through financial coercion, and expanding surveillance in ways that undermine due process and privacy." The only thing I would disagree with him on there is public protection through regulatory rollback. We don't have any public protection through regulatory agencies. That's a fantasy.

Starting point is 01:38:07 And most of these regulatory agencies themselves have no authority to exist. And that goes for all of HHS that RFK Jr. is over. All of it has no right to exist. You will not find anything that supports any single function of HHS in the Constitution. Nowhere is that to be found. It is in defiance, the entire structure of HHS, all these people look at Arcade, ma-ha! All these people who look to him as some kind of a savior, the entire existence of that agency, like for example the ATF, is in defiance of the Constitution itself. This is not merely policy by another name, it is the construction of a parallel legal

Starting point is 01:38:56 order where the President acts as lawmaker, enforcer and judge. I am the law. Judge Dredd, the very state of tyranny our founders sought to prevent. This legal theory, the so-called unitary executive, is part of a doctrine of presidential infallibility. Under this theory, all executive agencies, decisions, and even enforcement priorities bend entirely to the will of the president, obliterating the idea of an independent bureaucracy or of impartial governance, an imperial presidency that is cloaked in legalism. We're watching the collapse of constitutional constraints not through tanks in the streets, but through policy memos drafted in the West Wing.

Starting point is 01:39:49 That's what I saw five years ago. And of course, we got an army of government employees who were willing to be in the arms and legs of that tyranny five years ago. And now, Nothing has changed Nobody's been punished. You've got Ron Johnson senator Ron Johnson now talking about some of the stuff and boy what a limited hangout He is it's unbelievable now the war on terror the war on drugs war on illegal immigration asset forfeiture The The The The Making sense, common again. He took a question on the plane and he says, you know, you're going to have to take your medicine. You know, they're asking him about the knock-on effects of this, and a lot of people are talking

Starting point is 01:42:26 about that. Asked on board Air Force One about the catastrophic market reaction to the announcement, Trump said this. to tolerate this idea of a Trump vote? Is there a threshold? I think your question is so stupid. I think it's a, I don't want anything to go down. But sometimes you have to take medicine to fix something. And we have such a horrible, we have been treated so badly by other countries because we had stupid leadership that allowed this to happen.

Starting point is 01:43:03 They took our businesses, they took our money, they took our jobs, they moved it to Mexico, they moved it to Canada, they moved a lot of it to China, and it's not sustainable. We're not going to do it. Now we have hundreds of billions of dollars pouring into our country. On a monthly basis, it's boring, it's already started, because I put tariffs on it. And eventually it's gonna straighten out and our country will be solid and strong again. We have to get the shot,

Starting point is 01:43:30 the vaccinations are so important. And look, I guess in a certain way, I'm the father of the vaccine because I was the one that pushed it. I pushed the FDA like they have never been pushed before. I wouldn't exactly say they're in love with me. Well, I think they are. I think that the pharmaceutical companies are in love with them. They like the FDA too, because you're free to do anything. Yeah. He didn't have to twist their arms too

Starting point is 01:43:54 hard. Look, but he did twist their arms. He did take credit for that. And you got to get your shots. We had to have these stupid leaders who moved businesses to Mexico and Canada. Wait a minute, didn't you do USMCA? Yeah, that was you. You're so stupid. You think we're so stupid you think we don't remember what our stupid leader did. You our stupid leader. Well as we look at all of this, as I said, the Drudge Report at the top here, take your medicine,

Starting point is 01:44:27 and there he is with the hypodermic needle, and then, well, how is Alex spinning this? He's got the picture there from Drudge. He says, this is war. Well, he's right about that. He's just wrong about where the war is coming from. The globalist-controlled media is trying to come after Trump. Is that what's really going on, Alex? Come on. Trying to make the market panic. I think Trump made

Starting point is 01:44:52 the market panic. I think his capricious arbitrary flip-flopping about tariffs that he's been doing for the last couple of months is even worse than his rates. Even worse than his rates. His rates just capped it off and kicked off what Charles Hughes has said is essentially an earthquake. And he uses that analogy because he said, you know, you survive an earthquake, maybe the building didn't fall on you. You look around, you see some things are broken, some things are leaning, you got some broken windows and you're like, oh, all right, good. We survived. The building survived. He said, but what you don't realize is that there's some broken gas mains, some broken

Starting point is 01:45:31 water lines, foundations that have been shaken and destroyed, and that damage is going to be showing very soon, and it's going to be knock-on damage. And the longer this earthquake goes, the more it is shaken, and the more damage is going to happen. It's not all immediately apparent. But of course, it's just what Trump is doing is always beyond criticism. And if anybody criticizes it, oh, you're coming after Trump. It's not because what Trump is doing is stupid like moving businesses to Mexico and Canada. No, Trump never does anything stupid. And if he does something stupid, people like Alex Jones will tell you, he didn't do that. He didn't do that.

Starting point is 01:46:17 He didn't do USMCA. It's just, it's when we have a trade deficit with Japan and they're not buying a lot of our cars. You should buy those cars because they're American. I mean, what's he want to do? Is he want the Japanese government to buy the cars? Because we're not making cars that the GM and Ford are not making cars that most Japanese

Starting point is 01:46:43 people want. You know, we're making, let's say, you know, our most popular car is a Ford F-150. You see a lot of Japanese people driving around in something like that? With a steering wheel on the wrong side of the car for them. I don't even know if that would fit down the streets in Tokyo. That's the point, yeah. You know, people in Europe and Japan don't buy pickup trucks like that. But hey, you should buy it.

Starting point is 01:47:09 If you don't buy it, that's not fair. It's not fair. Well, hey, pal, I know that you're not much of a businessman. You drove six casinos bankrupt. But part of this is giving people what they want, not dictating to them what they want. But see, he doesn't operate like that. He just operates by buying politicians who then tell you, you've got to sell your home to Trump because he wants it for his parking lot and his casino.

Starting point is 01:47:34 And they tell the lady that, the widow that, and then after he gets the house, kicks her out, he declares bankruptcy before he finishes his parking lot. That's the way he operates. He doesn't operate in a marketplace. He operates with corruption and graft and that type of thing. And so, you know, you just, for your friends, you do whatever you need to do for the people that support you, and you just tell everybody else what they need to do. And that includes the Japanese who should be buying our cars, even if we don't make

Starting point is 01:48:00 what they want. They should still buy our cars. This is also about thinking collectively, right? It's collectivist thinking. It's not just centralized control, but it's collectivist thinking. We don't care about what individuals want in the marketplace. We didn't care if people wanted to wear masks or not wear masks or lock down or stay six feet apart. No, you're going to do it because of public health. Got a big problem with mRNA poison that is out there.

Starting point is 01:48:30 So what does RFK Jr. do? Well, in order to get his position, he pledges to Senator Cassidy of Louisiana, Republican, and a vaccine prostitute. He pledges publicly, oh, I'm going to promote the vaccines. And he does. He's down in, in Texas or'm going to promote the vaccines. And he does. He's down in Texas or wherever, I think it's in Texas, where he's feeding the fuel of this measles epidemic narrative that is a media creation and pretending that a second child

Starting point is 01:49:01 has died from measles. Now, I don't know if the second child has died or not. I know the first child did not die. And so when they say a second child died, they're already lying. And his own organization, Children's Health Defense, has debunked that lie about the first child dying from measles. But he's down there. The second child is there. And if you want to be safe, you got to get the MMR shot. And he's pushing, he's joined this push, right? The establishment and the pharmaceutical companies want to revive the vaccine hesitancy because

Starting point is 01:49:36 of the Trump shot. And the way they do that is with a little measles epidemic, claiming that people are dying because they didn't get the shot. And he's joined that little parade so that you are distracted from the real issue, the number one issue. He's focusing on some minor problems so that you don't focus on the major problem. He's going to talk about food additives. He's going to talk about high fructose corn syrup, but he's not going to talk about the

Starting point is 01:50:04 mRNA genetic code injection. Trump is doing the same thing economically. He doesn't want to talk about the $37 trillion of debt, and he was throwing a temper tantrum when Johnson didn't remove the debt ceiling for two years. Trump doesn't want to do anything about the debt. Forget about Doge. Doge isn't serious about that anyway. I mean, we're nearly a billion dollars

Starting point is 01:50:27 in our war against Yemen. Yemen, of all things. And he doesn't care about the money. And he doesn't care about the deficit. He wants to kick the can down the road for another two years. This is exploding. It began exploding under Trump, continued with Biden. Trump set us on a new upward angle with all the nonsense exactly five years ago. He doesn't want you to see the government's deficit. And he wants to surreptitiously raise taxes on you. So that's what this is really about. Don't look at the budget deficit. Look at the trade deficit. And we can tell you that the trade deficit is there because we've got evil countries abroad. And then what he

Starting point is 01:51:08 does is instead of focusing on products or industries even, he's not doing anything to protect America. He's not deregulating things. Instead, and he's not focusing even on protectionism, what he's focusing on is other countries. Because what Trump is trying to do here, folks, is not save this country. He's trying to start a global war. These are not tariffs. They're sanctions. When you say on a countrywide basis, we're going to hit you with punitive tariffs or we're going to shut down your products or whatever. When you do

Starting point is 01:51:46 that, that's a sanction. And that's the first step towards war, towards real war. It's what has typically been done when you had city-states and you had forts and palaces and whatever, they would do a siege around the city, cut off all the supplies. That's the purpose of a sanction. It's initiation of war. And what Trump is doing is sanctioning these other countries. He wants to have a war. He wants to have a global trade war and that global trade war. And Trump as an agent of chaos, as a wrecking ball for the World Economic Forum in the UN wants

Starting point is 01:52:26 to have a global war for this fourth turning so they can institute what they want on the ashes. You have to take medicine to fix something said Trump. Well you know just a spoonful of MAGA helps the medicine go down right? And we have such a horrible we have been treated so badly by other countries, not by our own government and its regulations and its taxations, which taxation is going to go up, but that's good now. Republicans now say taxes are good. They are an engine of creation.

Starting point is 01:52:57 And the Democrats have moved back a little bit from that position because it's Trump. It's just like the vaccine. You had to take your medicine, right? Well, when it was Trump with the medicine, Trump with the Trump vaccine, everybody was saying, we're not taking that. Biden, la la, all the Democrats, all the media, I can't trust that. That was done by Trump. Then when Biden becomes President, somehow it was immediately purified and immediately safe and effective. And you know, just like what happened five years ago, the initial lockdown and the emergency declaration and all the rest of this stuff, that was preparation for what was going to come. The real pandemic, the shot, the real poison. And folks, this

Starting point is 01:53:45 these reciprocal trade things, this nonsense created by AI, this formula, so-called formula, that is just laying the groundwork for what is going to be coming here. We've been treated so badly by other countries, said Trump, because we had stupid leadership that allowed this to happen. You know, we had stupid leaders like him who put auto production in Mexico and Canada. Now we're gonna do a rug pull on those people. There's multiple stories out there

Starting point is 01:54:15 about the five-year anniversary of the COVID lockdown. And I think it's appropriate for us to remember this. I don't see anybody connecting this really. I mean, they're getting pretty close when, you know, the judge report says, take your medicine, right? These people know who ran this scam, even if the MAGA people and the MAGA press won't admit it. They know where this all began.

Starting point is 01:54:43 But people are not making the explicit connection to it. I think we should make that explicit connection to it. And so we'll take a look at all of this nonsense, the COVID superstitions. Public schools are closed from March the 16th. They closed in California, says this author here. March the 16th, 2020. They didn't open up until September 2021. And that was, I told you that was going to happen, as planned, as practiced. They legally prepared for this.

Starting point is 01:55:14 They had the state laws put in place in 2001. This is the other shoe of 9-11 to drop. They had given the pharmaceutical companies legal immunity. They were playing the same game with a mask saying you wear your mask for yourself. I mean not for yourself but for the other people. That's always the argument they've given for the vaccines. So they're ready to roll this stuff out as soon as it was time for school to start so they could mandate it for children. Playgrounds in San Francisco were closed until October 2020.

Starting point is 01:55:44 Outdoor playgrounds were closed for seven months. While open in the beginning closed until October 2020. Outdoor playgrounds were closed for seven months. While open in the beginning, these were the rules in the playgrounds. You could only stay for a half hour. No eating, no drinking water because two-year-olds would need to remove their masks to do so. A two-year-old. You know, you might get the cooties if you stayed out there more than a half hour. So you can't stay in the park for more than a half hour. And you can't stay in the park for more than a half hour. And if you wanted to do any activities like climbing or something like that, you had to get in the line,

Starting point is 01:56:09 but you had to stay six feet apart. If your child was crying, you had to leave the public park because they might spew droplets and COVID. Basketball hoops were boarded over. They stayed that way for well over a year, some longer because they were forgotten about. And we've forgotten about that now, haven't we? Skate ramps at state parks were filled with sand.

Starting point is 01:56:30 Restaurants didn't open until September 30th. Then they'd close again, then open again at the whim of the city's public health bureaucrats. Kind of like the Trump tariffs, isn't it? So much is the same. Once the city's parks opened, people were forced to sit in chalked circles to maintain their distance. This is what living under a dictatorship is like. They said the dumbest thing and then it got evil. It began to be a see something, say something campaign. People were encouraged to turn in their friends and neighbors rather than suspected terrorists.

Starting point is 01:57:03 See someone entering a neighbor's home that doesn't live there? Text the number. It's science! It's science! Yeah. Text the number and you'll see the cops show up. You got somebody from a different household that is mixing outside the park. Well, text the number to somebody.

Starting point is 01:57:23 See some madness or a child playing in a playground with yellow caution tape around the swings? Text this number. And what happens when you text that number in San Francisco? She said, well, a police officer who couldn't be bothered to help with a heroin addict who's vomiting on your doorstep would be happy to interrogate you about who is inside your apartment and ticket you if you dared to exercise beyond a one-mile radius outside of your home. The citizenry of San Francisco took great pride in turning in their friends and neighbors for a perceived violation.

Starting point is 01:57:57 She said, I learned that the vast majority of people that I'd consider to be my people for decades would have been snitches for the Stasi." Yeah, like that American woman who moved to East Germany because she loved communism. Later on when they revealed the Stasi file she found that out all of her neighbors were snitching on her to the Stasi. All of her friends, as she thought. Well this is what this lady found out. We turned into a Stasi society. We turned into an OCD society. She says, as I've written extensively, my husband and I resisted and shouted and raged about this from day one and we paid a heavy price.

Starting point is 01:58:36 We left San Francisco on February the 1st, 2021, a city that I'd lived in and loved for over 30 years. We lost friends. I lost professional reputation as one of the best in the business, a reputation that I'd lived in and loved for over 30 years. We lost friends. I lost professional reputation as one of the best in the business, a reputation that I'd spent decades building. Despite being right about all of this," she said, my good standing has not been restored. That's right. That's right.

Starting point is 01:58:58 I can relate to that. I won't forgive these psychopaths, pathetic cowards, and aggressive virtue signaling conformists," she said. Well, you can start with Trump. I said in the 2020 elections, I said, if Biden wins, it's going to be war with Russia. If Trump wins, it's going to be war with China. Well, we've had our war with Russia. Still at war with Russia, by the way. And I said, if we're unlucky, we're going to be both of them. If we're unlucky, the war with Russia is going to continue. But here we have Trump and he wants a war with China.

Starting point is 01:59:37 And that's what these sanctions are about. Think of them as sanctions. If you're going to put penalties against an entire country, you're not doing this for revenue. You're not doing it as protectionism. You're doing it as a political sanction. This is the beginning of Trump's war with China. The Common Man. They created Common Core to dumb down our children. They created Common Pass to track and control us. Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing and the communist future.

Starting point is 02:00:26 They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated, ordinary. But each of us has worth and dignity created in the image of God. That is what we have in common. That is what they want to take away. Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire to know everything about us while they hide everything from us. It's time to turn that around and expose what they want to hide. Please share the information and links you'll find at TheDavidNightShow.com. Thank you for listening. Thank you for sharing.

Starting point is 02:01:05 If you can't support us financially, please keep us in your prayers. TheDavidNightShow.com. Here, let's begin with Civil Assetfeiture and seizure, which came from the drug war. But now you have a case where the police have confiscated a vehicle that there was no indication of any wrongdoing by the driver or anyone else. They're definitely holding this vehicle though. This is a plumbing truck and this is the business and they're saying well you know this is impacting our business they've had it for so long and they

Starting point is 02:02:15 won't give it back. And they were the ones who were the victims in this. A family-owned plumbing corporation in Illinois is being forced into court after cops confiscated a company truck when it was hit in a traffic accident, and they refuse to return it to the owners for more than a year. They're being represented by the Liberty Justice Center, the Winnebago County Sheriff's Office and the local state's attorney are the ones who are illegally seizing and indefinitely holding, 15 months so far, the property of this plumbing company simply because it was an innocent bystander to an auto accident. The government cannot take your property without a warrant or warrant exception, let alone

Starting point is 02:03:08 indefinitely without giving you any way to get it back just because you were an innocent bystander to somebody else's alleged crime," says the Liberty Justice Center. We look forward to vindicating the Fourth Amendment rights of First Supply, the plumbing company, and all innocent crime victims and bystanders. The company lawyer said it was hard enough to have our delivery driver be involved in a fatal car accident, but to indefinitely lose our truck to impoundment hampers our ability to make a profit and pay our employees.

Starting point is 02:03:42 We never could have expected that months would pass without getting it back, and now we must pay thousands of dollars a month extra just to serve our customers. To add insult to injury, we have spent hours trying to retrieve our property only to be passed from person to person at the state's attorney's office, ignored by the prosecutor, and offered no support. This all happened in January 2024 when an alleged drunk driver ran a red light and crashed his vehicle into the delivery truck, which was stopped legally at a stoplight. This person is stopped at a stoplight and drunk driver hits them. Tragically, the driver's passenger was killed on impact. The person is stopped at a stoplight and a drunk driver hits them. Tragically, the driver's passenger was killed on impact.

Starting point is 02:04:28 First Supply was in no way responsible for the accident. But the Winnebago County Sheriff's Office seized the truck from the scene as evidence without a warrant and without any exigent circumstances justifying the warrantless seizure. Then in the months following, while first supply complied with the law, the enforcement investigation of the truck remained locked up." You see, over and over again, and we're going to revisit this, I'm going to get back to what is going on with this fight with the Trump administration and this illegal alien, Garcia, who has been designated as a terrorist. We'll take a look at the back and forth. Both sides are pulling out a little bit of this and a little bit of that.

Starting point is 02:05:14 So you're getting a truncated picture from both sides on this. And then all of that is in the background of where the two parties are on immigration. But it really is about due process. And it's about how do we evaluate innocence or guilt. Because we're talking about a situation that is different from illegal entry. You know, that is one crime and you could say that the justifiable punishment for that would be expulsion out of the country. If we're going to also ignore the fact that people are financially incentivized to come

Starting point is 02:05:53 into this country, the welfare magnet and other things like that, but still, if somebody is here illegally, you can deport them. But to send them to that type of prison is cruel and unusual punishment if the person is not a terrorist. Now, if they are part of this trendy, or whatever, the trendy gang, or MS-13, I have no problem with that kind of punishment if that is, if they truly are a terrorist, but that needs to be determined. And so, what we're seeing here is in one area after the other, our government has become lawless. And when our government no longer needs to follow due

Starting point is 02:06:30 process, when they no longer need to charge somebody, this is civil asset forfeitures issue for the longest time, it was brought in as part of the drug war. And so when you don't have to charge somebody with a crime and you don't have to find them guilty of the crime before you take the property, you can take the property and never even charge them with a crime, let alone find them guilty. When you're going to tolerate that, it turns into things like this as well. And if you're going to allow this kind of rule by executive fiat, replacing the rule of law, then we're in really dangerous territory.

Starting point is 02:07:10 But getting back to this, at one point, a sergeant said the sheriff's investigators were finished with the truck, but still the truck was not released. The traffic case even was dismissed without the truck's release. Then a new criminal case was filed. At no point during the entire ordeal has either officer provided first supply a process, a procedure, or even a timeline as to when it can get his truck back. Now I don't understand. When I first read this I thought it was the drunk driver, the alleged drunk driver that died, but perhaps it was their driver

Starting point is 02:07:45 in their truck. I don't know. I mean, if they're going to... you wouldn't file a criminal case against the drunk driver if the drunk driver died. So, perhaps they, you know, crashing through and hitting this truck that was parked at the stoplight, perhaps it killed the plumbing company's driver. I don't know. But they said for 15 months the company's been paying for a truck it cannot use as well as a replacement. The Liberty Justice Center said it now has a lawsuit pending over the confiscation of the vehicle and it cites the Fourth Amendment. And we need to have due process along these same lines.

Starting point is 02:08:22 Not guilty, but punished anyway. Now this truly is amazing. This is from reason and this is something I've talked about civil asset forfeiture for the longest time. This is beyond that and this is beyond rigging a trial for a political enemy. This is a kind of corruption that has been embraced by the entire legal system all the way up to the Supreme Court and they're not doing anything to fix it. Here is the specifics of this case. So they've got six guys and they go to rob a CVS drugstore in Indianapolis back in 2015. They go in with armed robbery to go after the pharmacy at gunpoint. And so there's six of them.

Starting point is 02:09:15 Three people are named here, three others that are unnamed. Three people named are Yates, Perry, and McClinton. McClinton helped to guard the customers. Yates, who dubbed himself the mastermind of a string of similar robberies, led the charge with Perry. But their target, the safe, was equipped with a timed lock. Meaning that they're not going to be able to get the drugs inside for several minutes. As time is passing, that means that the police could be drawing closer.

Starting point is 02:09:50 So the group made off with a small bottle of hydrocodone, a sacrificial offering that's been set aside by the pharmacy for such situations as this, along with some kidney medication and some cough syrup containing codeine. That's it. Six guys. And that's their take. A getaway driver brought the group to a residential area. Perry, the mastermind, is dismayed at how little they had to show for their efforts. He allegedly declined to share the poultry proceeds and got out of the car. But he didn't get too far because somebody shot him in the back of the head.

Starting point is 02:10:27 One of the other five guys. Talk about a group of dumb criminals. The government zeroed in then on McClinton, who was 17 at the time, but they tried him as an adult. At his trial, persecution witnesses testified that he and Perry, the victim, were, quote, like brothers, real close. Witnesses said McClinton was Perry's, quote, best friend, unquote.

Starting point is 02:10:55 But the same cannot be said of Yates, who was the robbery ring leader. His girlfriend was two-timing him with Perry, according to testimony, from Cleavon Williams, who had participated in other robberies with Yates. But Yates, who was cooperating with prosecutors, had implemented McClinton. Oh, so he turns... he cooperates, turns state witness, and he names somebody else, perhaps for the crime that he did. It wouldn't be the first time we've seen that type of thing happening. So had Williams, after spending a year housed in the same detention facility as Yates, so the two of them are there and they both point the finger to this other guy, McClinton.

Starting point is 02:11:38 But the jury didn't believe these two guys. It convicted McClinton for his role in the armed robbery, but they found him not guilty of killing Perry. But then a judge sentenced McClinton for the murder anyway. How about that? It reminds me very much of Ross Ulbrich when you look at it. You know, going back to Ross Ulbrich, Silk Road, and the website had been taken over by some FBI agents. They had all the passwords and everything in it. And they were under trial at the same time

Starting point is 02:12:14 that Ross Ulbrich was for having embezzled almost a million dollars out of the website. But they were not allowed, Ross Ulbrich's lawyers were not allowed to mention that exculpatory evidence that would show that, you know, cast a shadow of a doubt as to whether or not it was Ross Ulbrich or these FBI agents who were being tried. And they were convicted, as a matter of fact. But that was not allowed to be told to anybody. But even more egregious after they convicted him for operating the website, you had in another jurisdiction, you had a district attorney who never indicted Ross for the murder for hire accusations or

Starting point is 02:12:55 allegations of that, but he was never indicted. He was tried in the media, as we see happening with this Garcia guy. He was tried in the media. But they never indicted him for that. He never stood trial for that, so he was not found guilty. But the sentencing judge referred to that, for which, again, he had not been found guilty, had not even been indicted, referred to that murder-for-hire thing and gave Ross Ulbrich three consecutive life sentences, meaning that he would never get out of jail. Now, fortunately, Trump in 2025 pardoned him.

Starting point is 02:13:30 But Trump in 2020 refused to pardon him. Trump would not pardon Ross Ulbrich for this heinous miscarriage of justice just to do justice. No, that's not good enough for Trump. But he would pardon him in 2025 as payback for his supporters. You see? That's why he has so many white-collar criminals that were pardoned by Trump. He's got to get something for it. It's not about principle. And so, the driving force in this sentence is not what he's been convicted of, said the judge that was there. Based on his convictions alone,

Starting point is 02:14:13 federal sentencing guidelines would recommend that Pratt give McClinton a prison sentence of somewhere between 57 to 71 months, or about 5 to 6 years. Instead, however, she sentenced him to 19 years. She sentenced him as if he had been found guilty of the murder charge that the jury had found him not guilty of. So how does this happen? Is this just a rogue judge? No, it's much worse than that. This is built into the system. The results likely offend most people's understanding of how the U.S. criminal justice system is supposed to operate when a defendant here is not guilty. You can expect to avoid punishment for that offense, or so we're told. The reality is that criminal defendants can be sentenced based on acquitted conduct, meaning

Starting point is 02:15:02 charges that a jury rejected. See, for the longest time we've had judges, more often than not, tell and instruct the jury that you are not here to judge the law or the punishment that will be attached to it if this person is found guilty. No, that's why the jury that you are not here to judge the law or the punishment that will be attached to it if this person is found guilty. No, that's why you are there. That's a very important reason of why you're there. You're also there to ascertain innocence

Starting point is 02:15:39 or guilt, but you're also there to judge the law and the penalties that are there. But they always tell you, no, no, no, you don't judge that at all. You're just here to find out what the facts are. And I will determine which facts you're allowed to hear even, right? And then when they don't get their desired outcome by rigging it, by lying to the jury about jury nullification of bad laws and bad punishment. When that doesn't work, and when they look at the facts of the case and they reject the facts of the case, did you realize that the judges can throw that out as well?

Starting point is 02:16:19 And it's a known established procedure. They even have a name for it. Acquitted conduct. So this is conduct. You did it. That's your conduct. Even though the jury acquitted you, you did it and I'm going to charge you on your conduct even though the jury said you're not guilty.

Starting point is 02:16:41 Although the US Supreme Court approved acquitted conduct sentencing in 1997, so it goes all the way to the Supreme Court, it has flown almost entirely under the public's radar. I didn't even know about this. In April of 2024, amid pressure from various lawyers, judges, and advocates, the U.S. Sentencing Commission, the judicial branch agency that writes the federal sentencing guidelines, the Sentencing Commission unanimously voted to limit the practice. Limit the practice, not end it.

Starting point is 02:17:14 Not end it. It remains to be seen how much effort that decision will have. A cohort of left-leaning legal scholars, constitutional conservatives, yes there still are some constitutional conservatives out there apparently, even with Trump in office, and libertarian think tankers are watching. They said that in June of 2023 the Supreme Court declined to hear McClinton's argument that he had been unconstitutionally punished for murder after a jury acquitted him of that crime. But that did not mean that the court was ignoring the issue.

Starting point is 02:17:54 It was Sonia Sotomayor who wrote, �The court's denial of cert today should not be misinterpreted.� In other words, you're not going to hear it, but here's her interpretation of it. She said, the Sentencing Commission, which is responsible for the sentencing guidelines, has announced that it will resolve questions around acquitted conduct sentencing in the coming year. If the Commission does not act expeditiously or chooses not to act, however, this court may need to take up the constitutional issues presented. Does that sound familiar?

Starting point is 02:18:30 Remember during the lockdown how the CDC just gave itself the power to stand over evictions and foreclosures as people were being evicted from their jobs and and having their businesses foreclosed on by Trump's lockdown orders they said all right we're just gonna stop the foreclosures and the evictions well that left a lot of other people holding the bag that just pushed it into a different problem area didn't address the problem the problem was locked down and instead of adjusting the lockdown the CDC gave itself powers that it never had. And then they extended that under Trump.

Starting point is 02:19:11 And then Biden came along and they extended it under Biden, like three times. And it came before the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court said, well, this is wrong, but you have told us that you're going to fix this. And so we'll wait for you to fix it. And the CDC didn't fix it. So then they came back and then they took that power away from the CDC a couple of months later. The CDC assured them that they were going to stop doing it, but they continued to do it beyond that deadline. So here we have a similar situation. You have the Supreme Court looking at this and saying

Starting point is 02:19:42 this is bad, and we should do something about it just like the CDC can't tell people that you can't evict or have foreclosures. They don't have that kind of power. Well, you can't sentence people for things that they've been found not guilty of, but the Sentencing Commission is dragging its feet and says, yeah, we're going to do it at some point. And so, the Supreme Court says, well, we're not going to hear this case. But if they wait too long or they don't do this at all, then we will come back and we will revisit it at that point.

Starting point is 02:20:14 Isn't that pathetic? Isn't that pathetic? Well, you had some people who disagreed with that. Brett Kavanaugh, Neil Gorsuchuch and Amy Coney Barrett, the three Trump appointees, agreed that it is appropriate for this court to wait for the Sentencing Commission's determination, is it really, before the court decides whether or not to grant cert in the case involving the use of acquitted conduct. And so they agreed with that.

Starting point is 02:20:45 Isn't that amazing? We'll just let them take care of it. Of course, we'd seen the same type of thing with the CDC as well. And as Kavanaugh and Roberts, particularly in writing in that position, say, well, we'll let the CDC fix it. And if they don't, we'll have to come back again. So six months later, the commission unveiled several proposed amendments aimed at curtailing the use of acquitted conduct at sentencing.

Starting point is 02:21:10 And so, they came up with an amendment which supposedly took effect on November the 1st, but it's hard to predict its impact on future cases for two reasons. First, the caveat that they put in there about if there is overlapping conduct, they said that seems to leave some wiggle room. Secondly, the sentencing guidelines are advisory. They are not binding. So if you violate that, you might get a stern tongue-lashing, but nothing else will happen. So if you've got a judge, it's a real hanging judge, or he takes a particular

Starting point is 02:21:46 dislike to you, you can forget about due process, you can forget about what the jury says. They've already forgotten about the jury setting in judgment of the law, setting in judgment of the punishment, and so now you've got judges who can forget about the jury and its finding of facts either. Yeah, we're losing all of our due process. The Common Man. They created Common Core to dumb down our children. They created Common Pass to track and control us. Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing and the communist future.

Starting point is 02:22:35 They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated, ordinary. But each of us has worth and dignity created in the image of God. That is what we have in common. That is what they want to take away. Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire to know everything about us while they hide everything from us. It's time to turn that around and expose what they want to hide. Please share the information and links you'll find at TheDavidNightShow.com.

Starting point is 02:23:12 Thank you for listening. Thank you for sharing. If you can't support us financially, please keep us in your prayers. TheDavidNightShow.com This is one of the most amazing exchanges I've seen. And this goes back to the picture that he put up about the guy they deported and said he's MS-13, right? And here's proof of it. Look, he's got tattoos on his fingers and then on his knuckles they write MS-13, saying that these tattoos that are on his fingers, like it was a marijuana leaf, okay, so that's them. And

Starting point is 02:24:18 there was a smiley face on the next finger. Okay, so that's an S. And then we've got a cross on the fourth finger. Oh, that's a one. And then we have a skull. Ah, see, that's a three. Yeah, it's a three. Because it's got three dots. Sometimes they will have three dots tattooed. They don't put them in skulls, really. So, we'll talk a little bit about that more. But I showed that. And I said, look, based on what Trump is saying, he really doesn't understand that this was photoshopped.

Starting point is 02:24:49 And yesterday he had, it surfaced in an interview that he had, ABC's Newsday 100 interview. So it was ABC News, their 100 day interview for his 100th day. So I guess it was two days ago yesterday the clips surfaced Terry Moran was the one who was doing the interview and They were discussing the case of this guy Garcia kilmar Garcia when Trump brought up the photoshopped image of him of his hand, right and the He said he says he said he wasn't a member of a gang and then you look at his knuckles and his knuckles say MS

Starting point is 02:25:34 1-3 He had MS 1-3 on his knuckles and Terry Moran just says well that was Photoshopped Yeah, that set him off that set set him off. Boom. And so you had this exchange going back and forth. He wasn't a member of a gang and then they looked and on his knuckles he had MS-13. There's a dispute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. He had MS-13 on his knuckles tattoo. He had some tattoos that are interpreted that way. But let's move on. Wait a minute. Hey Terry, Terry, Terry. He did not have the letter MS-13.

Starting point is 02:26:06 It says MS-13. That was Photoshopped. So let me just- That was Photoshopped, Terry. You can't do that. Hey, they're giving you the big break of a lifetime. You know, you're doing the interview. I picked you because, frankly, I never heard of you, but that's okay.

Starting point is 02:26:19 I picked you, Terry. But you're not being very nice. He had MS-13 tattooed. We'll agree to disagree. I want to move on to something else. Terry, do you're not being very nice. He had MS-13 tattooed. We'll agree to disagree. I want to move on to something else. Terry, do you want me to show you the picture? I saw the picture. We'll agree to disagree.

Starting point is 02:26:31 And you think it was Photoshopped? Here we go, here we go. Don't Photoshop it. Go look at his hand. He had MS-13. He did have tattoos that can be interpreted that way. I'm not an expert on them. I want to turn to Ukraine, sir.

Starting point is 02:26:40 No, no, Terry, no, no. I want to get to Ukraine. Let's move on. He had MS as clear as you can be, not interpreted. This is why people no longer believe the news, because it's fake news. When he was photographed in El Salvador, they aren't there. But let's just go. They aren't there when he's in El Salvador.

Starting point is 02:26:57 They weren't there, but they're there now, right? No, they're in your picture. Terry. Ukraine, sir. He's got MS-13 on his knuckles. All right. Okay? Well, we'll take a look. It's such a diss picture. Terry. Ukraine, sir. He's got MS-13 on his knuckles.

Starting point is 02:27:05 All right. Okay? We'll take a look at that. It's such a disservice. We'll take a look at that, sir. Why don't you just say yes, he does, and go on to something else. He's contested.

Starting point is 02:27:16 Isn't that amazing? How childish, petulant, and ignorant he is. He can't tell that that is a, can't tell that that is photoshopped. I mean look at that. Look at the difference. Look at how one of them is in perspective and how it's faded down there. And obviously they wrote in their MS-13 and Trump thought that it was the real thing. And here's the thing, folks. The sycophants that he has surrounded himself with, and I mean it's the entire Republican Party now, you know, from the leaders down to the grassroots, nobody will hold him responsible.

Starting point is 02:27:59 If Trump says that the sky is polka dot, they'll all say this guy is polka dot, no matter what they see. Nobody will tell the Emperor that he has no clothes and he has no clues as to what's going on. They're all just court jesters around this guy. He surrounded himself with a bunch of yes-men, and he couldn't take that from this guy, Terry Moran. And Terry Moran was like, okay, yeah, it was Photoshop, but you know, we can look at it. No, you say it. You say that he had MS-13 tattooed on his knuckles. On his knuckles. Well, you know, the problem with it, and I point this out, when Trump first did it, I

Starting point is 02:28:38 said, you know, they set up this, had this Democrat senator go down to see him, and the El Salvadoran government released these pictures after they sent him down. And you can see that it is not on his hand. There's no question about it. I mean, you can look at it and anybody who, I don't understand how anybody could look at that and not understand that they put that text in there. But there is a picture of it. And he says, oh well, you know, those were old pictures. No, this is the picture after you sent him away because you said that he had it tattooed on his hand.

Starting point is 02:29:13 You can see it's not there. This is an old picture where you can also see that he doesn't have it on his hand. But it's this Photoshop picture that Trump's going gonna go, and he's going to demand that everybody say that it is what he says it is. And it's absolutely absurd. And so he says- I find it hilarious, because this proves Trump is just your stereotypical

Starting point is 02:29:38 Facebook idiot getting one shot by AI images. Yeah, well, not even AI. I mean, it's just crude Photoshop. I don't even think the people that did it intended to deceive anybody. It's just that Trump is so stupid that he fell into that. And then he's so arrogant that you got to do what he has to say. Here's the thing, folks. That's not the evidence for sending him out.

Starting point is 02:30:03 And just as Trump is saying, �This is why nobody believes you.� No, Trump, this is why nobody believes �should believe you.� I don't know if they believe him or not, but they will follow him and they will support him, just like the absurdity that we saw yesterday about that �Well, Amazon is going to tell people about this tax has been added. You can't list a tax.� Well, they list the sales taxes, they list the shipping charges. We've had restaurants that show the surcharges that are put on restaurants or hotels and have a surcharge put on them by local government. They list that kind of stuff. Oh, well, it's inflation as we talked about yesterday. Trump had nothing to do with the massive inflation

Starting point is 02:30:41 that we've got, with all the universal basic income nonsense that he did, and taking up government spending to a completely new trajectory that was maintained by Biden. That's a big part of that. But of course he had a problem with the inflation, but the inflation is very different as I pointed out. You've got restaurant owners who are talking about how much food has gone up. All the food has gone up different amounts.

Starting point is 02:31:04 The beef had gone up so much this restaurant owners stop selling beef So inflation is not a particular percentage that is directly applied to every bill. You can't itemize inflation That's the absurdity of it. And it's also the dishonesty to say that Jeff Bezos who has you know, this is a Tax is being put on that's what they don't want you to see, that you're going to be paying anything. Remember? They said it's not going to be paid by American consumers. Yes it is. And the fact that they flipped out about it shows that they were lying, and they know that they were lying. Everybody knows that it's a tax. They're not that stupid that they don't know that

Starting point is 02:31:42 it's a tax. All terrorists are taxes. They're not going to that they don't know that it's a tax. All tariffs are taxes. They're not going to be paid by other people. That's why I say Donald Trump is nothing but a New York Democrat because a New York Democrat will tell you, �We're going to raise taxes, but don't worry. You're not going to pay it. Other people are going to pay it.� Bad other people. It's only fair those other people pay the tax. And that's the way he sold the tariff. And he lied to people. He said, said it's not going to raise the price of stuff and then when somebody is going to put it there as an itemized statement look at how apoplectic they get and look at how they call the other people propagandists if he were to put that

Starting point is 02:32:17 and Bezos bowed to him see that's the that's the the fear that everybody has against this guy because he's not a president. He's a dictator. I refuse to call Trump president. He refuses to obey the Constitution and that's a condition of his office. He's not a president. He's just Trump and he's just dictator Don. He's not even a president.

Starting point is 02:32:40 He doesn't deserve that title. He's got power, but no authority. No legitimate authority for what he's doing. He has no legitimate authority for these emergencies that he's put on for any of this stuff. But you know, when you look at Terry Moran, and good for him, I thought he was he kept trying to move on. Let's talk about something else. Okay fine, let's just talk about something else. He wasn't going to bow down to Trump and accept. Okay, so yeah, he does have MS-13 on his knuckles.

Starting point is 02:33:10 He knows that's not true, and he's not going to kowtow to Trump and say that it is true. But let's move on. We disagree with that. Right? He finishes by saying, well, it's contested. Right? Well, let's just move on. Can we talk about something?

Starting point is 02:33:25 Let's just talk about something. No, you will say it. Say it, Terry. Say that I'm right. Bow to me. Kiss my ring, right? Or other parts of his anatomy. And when you compare that interview to what Candice Owen did,

Starting point is 02:33:40 when she tried half-heartedly to confront him on his kill shot bio weapons of big pharma, which is a huge topic on the minds of mothers, especially you're seeing what's happening at these school board meetings. Where do you stand on these vaccine mandates? And obviously I know that you are, you are pro vaccine. Obviously you did everything you can. She only wants to talk about the mandate. It was one of the greatest achievements we did in less than nine months and be able to

Starting point is 02:34:01 do that. But where, but now you're great. It's gonna twist, right? It's it's gotten. Now we went from this is a good thing and people should have this option to military men. You're going to have to resign because you're not getting this vaccine.

Starting point is 02:34:13 Where do you stand on that? Well, I stand on forget about the mandates that people have to have their freedom. But at the same time, the vaccine is one of the greatest achievements of mankind. We would have had a 1917, remember the Spanish flu, killed perhaps 100 million people. Actually, it ended the First World War,

Starting point is 02:34:31 because the soldiers was a lot of people. We've heard this. What I want you to see was the difference between Terry Moran, who says, OK, let's just move on. But yeah, it was Photoshopped. You know it's Photoshopped. It's not Photoshopped. And how he reacted to her,

Starting point is 02:34:45 she knew that she would get that kind of treatment if she confronted Trump. And she knew that her career would be over with the MAGA cult. And she let him get away with mass murder. That's a lot more important. What she kowtowed to him over is a lot more important than if you got MS-13 tattooed on your knuckles or not. And I say this about the, you know, this guy. Why in the world don't they focus? I think he likely is connected with cartels. I still think he needs to have due process. I don't like the way this thing operated. Look, the reason I say I think he is, is because of what surfaced later, which was not part

Starting point is 02:35:26 of them sending him out. And it's not the case that Trump wants to make. Why doesn't Trump point out the fact that he was apprehended in Tennessee transporting eight people, none of whom had any ID or spoke English? And when they stopped him, the car that he was driving was with somebody who was a convicted gang member, belonged to somebody else who was a convicted gang member. And so it was obviously trafficking people. Why don't you talk about that instead of this phony thing about the knuckles? See, Trump

Starting point is 02:36:00 can't even manage to do the right thing when it's right there in front of him. And that's everybody in his administration, including Pam Bondi and the rest of these people, Homan and all the rest of them. Why not talk about the real thing? And here's the other part of it. You say, okay, we know this guy's a murderer. Let's just kill him right now. You need to go through the process of a trial and due process. Even if you got eyewitnesses who saw this person shooting

Starting point is 02:36:34 people and you apprehend him. You go through the process and it's not enough to say well we all know that he killed him. Yeah, fine. Okay. Let's go through the process because if it's a serious crime process because if it's a serious crime, especially if it's a serious crime, you want to have due process for everybody. You don't want to get rid of that. And yes, that's for everybody that's here in America in the same way that when we look at the FISA thing, right, we don't want the spy, we don't

Starting point is 02:36:58 want the government spying on American citizens without a search warrant, right? And so that's why they created the FISA court. Said,'ve got to go to the FISA court and we'll get a little phony search warrant. And then they used it to get essentially a warrant to spy on Mr. and Mrs. Verizon, everybody in the world. They used that, proved that purpose. But the purpose of FISA was to say you're not going to spy on Americans without a search warrant and you are not going to spy on whether the Americans are in America or whether they're abroad.

Starting point is 02:37:33 You're not going to spy on them. And you're not going to spy on foreign citizens if they're in America either. The El Salvadoran government comes out and puts those drinks down. Margaritas, I think it was. That would be it. Yeah. Margaritas. Yes, we're here. Latin America.

Starting point is 02:37:50 So they put some margaritas on the table. Take a picture of them. And by doing that, as I pointed out, by doing that, you can see his hand. And he doesn't have MS-13 on it. But think about how dishonest that is and how dishonest what Trump is doing. You may really have a cartel guy there, but let's get real, because we need to have a rule of law and you need to have some credibility. So he's got a marijuana leaf, a smiley face, a cross, so the marijuana leaf is supposed to be the M, you know, supposed to be indicative

Starting point is 02:38:23 of an M. The smiley face is supposed to be indicative of an M. The smiley face is supposed to be indicative of an S. The cross is supposed to be a 1. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And the skull is supposed to represent a 3. Because, you know, he's got two eye sockets in a mouth or whatever, but it doesn't look like the three dots that the MS-13 does. So he kept saying, well, that was interpreted. And then there was a Photoshop thing that puts the MS-13. No, no, no. It was there. Stupidly wrong.

Starting point is 02:38:52 MS-13 experts said that none of the pictorial tattoos on the photograph is a known signifier of MS-13. Now, this is PolitiFact, which I typically find them to be wrong about everything, but I showed that stuff to you. I don't need a gang expert to show I showed you pictures of what the MS-13 people do. They are loud and proud about their tattoos, and that's what the people that PolitiFact talked to said. They said, well, you know, they don't try to hide it. I mean, they do tattoo it on their face.

Starting point is 02:39:30 They've got like a MS on their back that's like the entire back, you know, and then the one three that is there as well. It's loud and proud when they do this. They said, one person said, well, I don't believe that a dangerous individual quote unquote would have such anodyne and farcically generic tattoos on his hand. And that's what I showed. I said, this is what the real MS-13 guys, it's really hardcore satanic gigantic in your face or on their face, or even giant and big on their back.

Starting point is 02:40:09 Another person said, within MS-13 culture, such markings would likely be frowned upon, even viewed as a sign of cowardice. Because they're big, they're loud and proud about their tattoos. As they could be interpreted as an attempt to hide or to downplay their gang affiliation. That type of concealment goes against the gangs norms which often demand bold, visible demonstrations of identity and loyalty. So I don't think that he's... that's an MS-13 tattoo. He may not be MS-13. He may just be another cartel.

Starting point is 02:40:45 Fine. Deport him. Put him in prison. I don't care. But do the due process. Trump said Abrego Garcia, quote, had MS-13 on his knuckle tattoos and that it was not interpreted but it was. Common Core had dumbed down our children.

Starting point is 02:41:01 They created Common Pass to track and control us. Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing and the communist future. They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated, ordinary, but each of us has worth and dignity created in the image of God. That is what we have in common. That is what they want to take away. Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire to know everything about us

Starting point is 02:41:35 while they hide everything from us. It's time to turn that around and expose what they want to hide. Please share the information and links you'll find at TheDavidNightShow.com. Thank you for listening. Thank you for sharing. If you can't support us financially, please keep us in your prayers. TheDavidNightShow.com Joining me now is Josh Ballard.

Starting point is 02:42:32 He's CEO of USA Rare Earth. They're traded on NASDAQ. They have a website as well on NASDAQ. They're as simple as USAR on the web. You can find them at USARE.com. If I got that correct. If I didn't, Josh, you can correct me. And I want to talk to him because he's been on the forefront of this rare earth issue, and that is really kind of at the forefront of what is going on in this trade dispute with China. We hold all the cards when it comes to tariffs and who's going to buy what from who, but there are other ways that

Starting point is 02:43:05 they can strike back and one of the things that they have done is to use their position of dominance in rare earth minerals to essentially shut down supply of critical things. So thank you so much for joining us, Josh. We've got a lot of questions about rare earth minerals. Thank you for joining us. Yeah, thank you for having me. I appreciate it. First of all, tell us a little bit about what rare earth minerals are. Why do we call them rare? Rare earth minerals for the most part actually aren't rare. They are pretty abundant but what's difficult about them is you don't have a vein of them

Starting point is 02:43:35 in the ground. So when you go get coal, you have a vein of coal, you can dig it straight out. Rare earths are dispersed throughout the rock. So there's a lot of science that goes into pulling it out of the rock so that you can then separate out the minerals and the ores that can be used in the metals and the magnets and so forth. So it's hard. Some are super rare, some are not so rare.

Starting point is 02:43:54 China, by the way, focused on the super rare ones, to your point, that they could really control. But they're critical to modern technology and they're critical to really how we live today in surprising ways. Yeah, especially because we see a lot of these, it's gotten to the point where we have these super magnets that are very small. Of course, we use them on all kinds of things.

Starting point is 02:44:15 You can have it with an air bud speaker or all that, but just so many different things. And the fact that you can make very, very small, very strong magnets, I think that's a large part of that. And of course, with everything going electric, magnets are absolutely essential to convert electricity into some kind of movement or some kind of transducer, whether it's moving a speaker or whether it's moving a car, you know, the motor or something like that. So it's really key to the kind of devices that we have. It's really key to a lot of consumer electronics,

Starting point is 02:44:47 key to military things especially. How did China, now tell me, you probably know more, I thought it was somewhere around 70% of the minerals or they've got control of, but of the refinement, they've got like nearly 90%. Those are the figures I've seen. Is that correct or correct me if I'm wrong? That's correct.

Starting point is 02:45:04 Yeah, that's correct. Now then you have to separate into what rare earths. So, we'll take one step back. The context of this is, in the early 90s, there was a vice premier in China who said, Middle East has oil, China has rare earths. This has been their focus for over 30 years. Wow.

Starting point is 02:45:22 And they've been very deliberate about it and built up a pretty strong supply chain. To your point today, it used to be over 90% mining as well. It's now about 70% mining. We have about 15% of it here in the US of certain light rare earths that are a little bit more abundant. But over 90% of the processing have some problems in China. Not only 90% of the processing, which is just to get the ore, but they also have over 90% of the processing have some problems in China. Not only 90% of the processing, which is just to get the ore, but they also have over 90% of the metal making.

Starting point is 02:45:49 And they also have over 90% of the magnet making for all those magnets you were just describing. So they really control a lot of the supply chain. And then when you focus it into specific minerals, this export list, for example, that just occurred about two weeks ago that went into play, those minerals they

Starting point is 02:46:05 control for the most part, not every one, but for the most part over 98% and the critical ones, gadolinium, dysposium, terbium, those are over 98% for sure. These are names that I never, I don't know, I got an electrical engineering degree, I've never heard of these things before. Yeah, and they're so critical to our lives. Gatolinium, by the way, is the mineral that we use when you get an MRI scan. It's the mineral that creates the contrast around our organs. This is going to affect millions of MRI scans in the country. It becomes personal. This isn't just political. Oh yeah. There's other minerals in

Starting point is 02:46:40 that list that are used to fight cancer and then there's minerals like dysprosium and terbium that are used, they could handle a lot of heat, so they're used in rocket systems, they're used in high performance magnets that you'd use in a, not only in EV, but in high performance machinery in defense or in drones. So these are really important minerals and important magnets and technologies

Starting point is 02:47:01 for our society today. Now they've been very strategic. One of the things that I've heard, and you talked about that they're not so much rare as they are difficult to get. I guess we could have, we could marvel at unobtainium, you know, if we want to get one of those things there. But that's not a real one, but that's straight out of Marvel comics. But it is kind of like that. It's really hard to get this stuff. And one of the things that I've heard that China has done is using very crude and dirty methods of extraction, using slave labor in a lot of other places.

Starting point is 02:47:34 That's helped them to get a monopoly on this as well as just the geographical location of this stuff. So from that standpoint, where do we stand in the United States? Because we also have, voluntarily in the West, we have given China a huge advantage on energy costs. You know, they can, again, do as cheap and dirty a coal as they wish. We're not allowed to even have clean coal plants in that type of thing in many places in the West. Everybody's shutting down their manufacturing facilities. So we have a real issue with this. And so how do we get out of this situation, even if we've got 15% of them, how is that going to affect our country

Starting point is 02:48:19 if our costs of manufacturing are higher because our energy costs are higher if we are going to have a clean and responsible way to get to handle these things rather than just doing it and who cares what happens approach that the Chinese have had in other countries. Yeah, and I think that's a great question and you know as Americans as humans we want to do this as responsible as possible as we bring them back to the US. We can. There's ways to do it much cleaner. So for example, in rare earth mining, of course you're mining, you're taking things out of the ground. Maybe you can't avoid that for sure. But what you can do is you can reduce dust levels. You can use a lot of acids and reagents within this process to get the

Starting point is 02:49:00 minerals out of the rock and to separate them. You can recycle those reagents. There's ways you can recycle the water that you're using within the plant. So there's things that we can do to be much more responsible about it than certainly there are in China. And then in China, not only are they responsible, but then of course the government's also subsidizing and just accelerating. And what we can do here in the U.S. is one we can be more responsible, but then we have to create a moat, though. We have to protect the industry that we're trying to build here now, because we do need it domestically.

Starting point is 02:49:30 You can argue in favor or not of the current tariff regime. What I can tell you is when it comes to rare earths, rare earth magnets, not only rare earths, but also the other critical minerals that have been in the news a lot lately, we do need to create a moat. We need to build this industry back here in the US. It's too important to our day-to-day lives. It's too important to our defense. And to rely on one single choke point like China,

Starting point is 02:49:52 it's just a mistake. Well, you know, love or hate China, that moment there is a mistake that we need to fix. And creating this moat, whether it's through support through the government, whether it's through a tariff regime, whether it's through making it less onerous to build a mine, for example, permitting and so forth, while making sure we're still responsible humans, you know, and we still need to be responsible, but we

Starting point is 02:50:13 don't need to kill a business to be responsible, which is what we've been doing in the mining world for all these decades. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I guess my question is, as I look at it, is how do we get from where we are right now to a position of, you know, where we have some self-sufficiency in this? And, you know, that would apply to pretty much everything. But in the rare earth situation, we, you know, we look at this abrupt change that is here

Starting point is 02:50:38 and, you know, being shut down right away by China. How do we get through this transition? What does the interim situation look like? You say we've got 15% supply here. How much pain is that going to cause in the US during a transition period? Because there's going to be a period of time that you've got to get your mining up and working, you've got to get manufacturing up and working. That's not going to happen overnight.

Starting point is 02:51:03 So what happens in the interim? Are we going to see sky-high prices in the interim? And it's for answer that's 15% of overall rare earths but fortunately we have 15% of the easiest. The ones in these export percent, this export list, we have zero. Wow. So this is a challenge for us and it's going to affect us in the very short term. I mean there's some stockpiles right? We have, I wouldn't call it a stockpile, there's some inventories of these minerals and these metals here in the US. Are there some in friendly countries, for instance, like Australia or whatever? I think there's some there. Do they have the important ones?

Starting point is 02:51:37 Yeah, they don't have this export list necessarily. There's some coming out of Brazil but they get sent to get processed in China. And you know all all the processing goes through China. So we're going to have this period. I don't know what we're going to do. I mean, maybe we're going to work out ways to do it through intermediaries. Maybe we'll come to some kind of agreement so we can start to get some of these minerals back for a while. The short term is tough because there's no short term answers. And if you break apart this supply chain, and this is what we're working on as a company is this entire supply chain, trying to do it domestically. If you break apart this supply chain, and this is what we're working on as a company, is this entire supply chain, trying to do it domestically. If you start, I'm going to start with metals and magnets.

Starting point is 02:52:10 Those, you know, what I've been talking to the government about is it's time for a Marshall Plan. Like, we need to look at this as something that has to happen quick. We need to invest in it. We need to bring private investment. This has to be a private-public partnership. We need to make this happen as quickly as possible. And on the metals and magnets side,

Starting point is 02:52:28 we can surge that and over the next year or two make a big difference, right? Not solve the entire problem that we have, but we can make a big dent in it for sure over the next couple of years. Certainly we have a plan that we could uplift this within a couple of years. We could build our whole magnet facility, which will make hundreds of millions of these magnets. We could build metal making here in the US. This can happen. We can be the first domestically, you know, the full

Starting point is 02:52:51 domestic source of this here in the US. But on the deposit side, on the mining side, on the processing side, you can build a mine, you know, that might not take so long to break up rock and grind it, but the processing of that rock to get out the minerals there's a science behind that that we've lost We've been working on it for years a couple of our peers been working on it the last few years. We've made progress But there's still work to do and that doesn't happen overnight You know, even if you have a great department our deposit in in West, Texas Is an incredible deposit with all these rare earths on this export list. That's what we're heavy in. We're heavy in the heavies is what I call these

Starting point is 02:53:28 are called heavy rare earths. 50-70% heavy rare earths. But we still have to work through the science of that. And then we have to build the processing techniques we're going to use. We are building it. We have to build that first demo plant and then build a mine. None of that happens overnight, right? But we can surge it, we can get support from the government, we can shorten that cycle. It's not decades. I think it's over the next few years we can build it. That's gonna take a little bit of time. So we got this period we got to figure out for sure. So what you're saying is even though we have some in Texas that we know of, the minerals there, the whole processing, refinement, manufacturing process, that's been, we don't have that.

Starting point is 02:54:06 We don't have that knowledge and we've got to discover that, right? As well as build the factories, is that correct? That's right. That's correct. And the, every deposit's different as well, right? There's different mix of minerals, there's different impurities,

Starting point is 02:54:19 there's different science you have to use to approach it. So it's a, you know, it's a puzzle. It's, you got to crack at every deposit. So it's just not an overnight thing, but we have to rebuild this in the U.S. It was absolutely we got to figure out what we can do. Really caught us flat-footed, didn't they? I mean, they thought strategically about this, and we've just been kind of taking the path of least resistance for quite some time, and now all of a sudden, because of trade dispute, it looks like it's going to be shut down, and it's going to take years for us to get this thing together.

Starting point is 02:54:49 So your company is working on the entire supply chain then, right? From getting it out of the ground to processing and refining it and then manufacturing it into a finished product, maybe even into magnets, is that correct? That's right. In fact, yeah, we're looking at taking out of the ground in West Texas, processing in West Texas, and then metal making and magnet making here. I'm in Oklahoma today, out here in Oklahoma.

Starting point is 02:55:13 We're building a, we're in the process of building a large 300,000 square foot facility, magnet making facility, and future metal making facility here in Oklahoma. It's gonna be the first largest facility really to serve the entire magnet market here in Oklahoma. It's going to be the first largest facility really to serve the entire magnet market here in the U.S. It's going to make hundreds of millions of magnets and we're commissioning our first line beginning of next year. And we're already making magnets. We have a big lab, industrial lab that we're working through to start working

Starting point is 02:55:37 with customers that we commissioned last month. So we're moving pretty quickly and the question is now how quickly can we move? It's all about capital and execution and we need to get the capital in, government, private, all together to push this fast. We can build as fast as we can get capital on to build it, but we'll be a significant asset here in the US here in the short term for sure. Yeah, because I think back to World War II, we got caught flat-footed in a lot of critical things like rubber, stuff like that, and we lost the supply of those types of things that came up with synthetic rubbers and stuff like that.

Starting point is 02:56:15 Is there any possibility that these things can be replaced, just like they replace natural rubber with synthetic rubber? Are you looking at alternatives to rare earth that might be substitutes that could get there? It's hard. You know what's special about rare earths are, if it's a metal alloy, is the properties that they have. They have special properties that can withstand heat that have superconductivity. We take a critical metal like gallium, which was also banned a few months ago also. We're very rich in gallium in our deposit.

Starting point is 02:56:47 Gallium is used in the Patriot missile system, for example, which is why China targeted it. It's also used in semiconductors because of its conductivity and its ability to withstand heat. It helps miniaturize semiconductors and speed them up. So yeah, we can still make semiconductors. Yeah, I'm familiar with gallium. That's been used in semiconductors for quite some time, yeah.

Starting point is 02:57:06 Yeah. And we just never bothered to have a supply of it. That's pretty amazing. We never bothered. Yeah, and it's plain on Plains Day that we should have done this. So this is not a surprise to the industry at all, by the way. Wow.

Starting point is 02:57:17 But when it comes to rare earth magnets, the key is, in some areas you can replace them, but the key is they're so powerful and so small. The power and how small they are. It's like 10 times smaller. in some areas you can make a less, a speaker, you can just make it, we didn't always use these magnets, you could just make it a less powerful speaker. You know, a permanent magnet, these rarest magnets in the speaker are super small, they create 50% more base and they're like a third the size, or 10th the size or something, like there's a huge difference

Starting point is 02:57:57 in power with these. If you think about a Tesla, you put it in beast mode and you put on the accelerator and it feels like you're in a roller coaster, that's these magnets, these magnets, these permanent raref magnets, turn that on and turn that dry and boom, you're off, right? Yeah. And you can't do that, the weight and the size are going to be too big.

Starting point is 02:58:15 And so there's limitations in terms of how far we can take it. That's why these are important. I think we just need to figure it out here domestically. It is amazing. I mean, we're in, I guess, you could say we're in a tight spot now with this stuff. Let me just ask you, this is kind of a wild question. You know, I'm always looking at this Greenland stuff and everybody's like, there's a lot of stuff up there.

Starting point is 02:58:35 But I also hear that it's extremely hard to get the stuff out of the frozen ground, everything. I mean, that's not going to factor into anything, is it? Or is that a factor, do you think? No. I think it's great marketing, but the reality is Ukraine, Greenland, they do have a lot, Greenland has a lot, right? Ukraine doesn't have much of what they do have as in Russian control territory. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:58:56 But those countries, they're decades away. So what we need to do is work on what we have right here. We have it here. I mean, we have, when you break apart the light rare earths, which are cerium and lanthanum are used a lot of technologies and ceramics and these LCD screens we're looking at now, all sorts of places you use these these. Lanthanum is also used in batteries, very important. We have a ton of that stuff and we make a lot of it here, we just don't process it here. Neodymium, praseodymium are the key minerals that go in ore that goes into these magnets. We make some here, we just don't process it here. Neodymium, Praseodymium are the key minerals that go in ore that goes into these magnets. We make some here, we have

Starting point is 02:59:28 other deposits that we can develop that we know of, and then we have a heavy deposit like ours that we know we can develop. Yeah, it's gonna take two or three years or four years, but we can do it a lot faster than the decades away that'll happen in a Greenland or Ukraine or choose your other country. There's there's lots of known deposits, not many of them are close. Yeah, yeah. We have a few here, let's go for it. Well, it's good to hear you verify that.

Starting point is 02:59:51 That's what I reported too. I just had a lot of sources that said, you know, there's not that much in Ukraine and what's there is not in the territory that's being controlled by the Ukrainian government. And so, yeah, there seems to be a real disconnect with reality in many cases as we look at this stuff. But the reality is that it's going to be a difficult position, and they've really got a strategic advantage in this, and they're willing to use that as leverage. And we have given them, not only have we walked away from these things like a gallium, for example, that is something that we have been used for decades in semiconductors, and yet we didn't bother

Starting point is 03:00:32 to secure a supply of it. And it's amazing that we let ourselves get into this kind of a situation, and it's going to be very difficult, especially just going cold turkey. And that's really what's happening now. It's going to be cold turkey to do this and to create an entire supply chain. Again, your company is USARE.com. It's where people can find you. It's USA Rare Earth. And so it's USARE, as in rareearth.com.

Starting point is 03:01:03 And on NASDAQ, you are there at USAR. Is there anything else that you would like to tell us about this as we look at this monumental task in front of us? Yeah, I just like to tell everybody we're working hard to solve this. We want a domestic supply chain. We want to be the first to have a fully domestic supply chain. We're very serious about it and we're going to execute on it and it's an exciting time for us for sure. It's about it, and we're going to execute on it. And it's an exciting time for us, for sure. It's been very interesting, but we're going to deliver on it for the American people and for our shareholders. So, it's a good time. We're going to make it happen. Well, as they say, you know, the Chinese curse is that may you live in interesting times.

Starting point is 03:01:37 And I guess the Chinese are cursing us by giving us some real interesting times to try to adapt to things on the spur of the moment. Without any preparation or forethought, it seems to be where we are right now. But thank you. I hope you're successful. I hope you get this through very quickly. Thank you so much for joining us again. USARE, as in USA Rare Earth, USARE.com and on NASDAQ at USAR. Thank you so much, Josh. I appreciate it. Thank you for having me, Dan. Appreciate it. You have a great one. Best of luck to you. Thank you so much, Josh. I appreciate it. Thank you for having me, Dan. I appreciate it.

Starting point is 03:02:07 You have a great one. Best of luck to you. Thank you. The Common Man. They created Common Core to dumb down our children. They created Common Pass to track and control us. Their commons project to make sure that we can make a difference in the world. They created Common Core to dumb down our children. They created Common Pass to track and control us.

Starting point is 03:02:28 Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing and the communist future. They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated, ordinary. But each of us has worth and dignity created in the image of God. That is what we have in common. That is what they want to take away. Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire to know everything about us while they hide everything from us. It's time to turn that around and expose what they want to hide.

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