The David Knight Show - Thu Episode #2068: 80 Years Later: Living in the Shadow of Hiroshima

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

01:21:48 – Refugee Crime Crisis in EuropeA segment critiques European governments for refusing to address rising crime tied to mass male-dominated refugee inflows, claiming cultural incompatibility ...will lead to societal collapse. 01:45:12 – USDA Propaganda and Hollywood SatireCommentary targets the absurd use of Hollywood film clips to scare wolves from livestock, mocking Adam Driver and Hollywood's omnipresence in government messaging. 02:33:11 – Tech Failures & Biowarfare SuspicionA listener comment speculating that a military football game and beauty pageant were used to test radiation exposure and biological shedding — suggesting covert experimentation on soldiers. 02:47:28 – Silver Markets & Economic CollapseA deep dive into the precious metals market argues that the price of silver has been artificially suppressed for decades. The speaker predicts a coming breakout linked to global economic instability, government debt manipulation, and the quiet rise of central bank digital currencies (CBDCs). 03:23:59 – Church Lockdowns & Romans 13This discussion criticizes churches that complied with COVID-era restrictions, accusing them of misusing Romans 13 to justify obedience to the state. Some churches admitted they were wrong, while others still refuse to retract their original stance. Follow the show on Kick and watch live every weekday 9:00am EST – 12:00pm EST https://kick.com/davidknightshow Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to https://davidknight.gold/ for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to https://trendsjournal.com/ and enter the code KNIGHTFind out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.com If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I mean, In a world. deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act. It's the David Knight Show. As the clock strikes 13, it is Thursday, the 7th of August, year of our Lord 2025. Today we're going to be looking at the trade tirades, as well as the 80th anniversary of Hiroshima. We'll also be speaking with Tony Ardeburn and we have new David Knight. That's right, he did an interview with Pastor Chuck Baldwin. It's a packed show today and you don't want to miss it. Stay with us. Until,
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Starting point is 00:01:44 ...that... ...and... ...that... Good morning and welcome to the show, everyone. Hope you're having a good Thursday so far. As I said, we have New David Knight. It's an interview with Pastor Chuck Baldwin, and we'll be playing that for you in the third hour.
Starting point is 00:02:23 So get excited for that. And, of course, we'll be talking with Tony Arterburn today. I'm going to get his sense of what's going on with the tariffs and what's happening at the golden silver market. Now, if wherever you're watching this, please drop a like on the stream, or if you're listening to the podcast afterwards,
Starting point is 00:02:40 please like and share there as well. I think we're going to start out with this bit of news, though. The Howard Stern show to be canceled after nearly 20 years on Sirius XM. My dad, all he could say was finally. Said the iconic Howard Stern show on
Starting point is 00:02:57 Sirius XM is said to be canceled after a stunning 20-year run. My dad says nothing but filth, depravity, and debauchery. I've never actually listened to the Howard Stern show. It was completely uninteresting to me. Stern 71, who's had megabucks contract for decades at the subscription satellite radio provider will likely cut some sort of deal for serious to keep his catalog upon his
Starting point is 00:03:22 exit, sources said. Wasn't that wonderful? You can still listen to him. This is the guy who made his entire career off being edgy. being counterculture, being the one that tells you, don't trust anyone. At least that's from, it seems like, to me, no, I'm cool, I'm edgy. Oh, COVID comes around, you've got to wear the mask. You can't even, I'm going to lock myself in my house. I'm not going to talk to him. If you haven't had the vaccine, you're not wearing a mask.
Starting point is 00:03:46 You're not going to come near me. You should be forced to get a vaccine. You should be forced to wear a mask. That's what we need to do. And of course, when we see these propaganda pieces, like late night, shows and these talk radio pillars disappearing, it really begs the question of where the propaganda effort is moving to. You know, it's, they aren't just going to stop propagandize. It's, uh, moving to places like TikTok and YouTube. Guys like Dean Withers or that Parker kid, these losers. If any of you
Starting point is 00:04:22 have seen either of those guys, you'll know exactly how obnoxious they are. There's an entirely new generation of leftists that they're using to propagandize people. They're not on the mainstream news sites anymore. They just make appearances there. But Howard Stern, as I said, made his career being edgy, being depraved and obsessed with sex. And then, of course, immediately, as soon as COVID came around, coward in his house
Starting point is 00:04:57 immediately dropped all that no not the bad boy of radio just a coward a simpering coward oh big daddy government please protect me what a loser
Starting point is 00:05:13 pathetic loser he wasn't an edgy guy he just played one on TV apparently and of course we saw in later years he had what uh it started to become referred to as troll's remorse a little bit these guys that you know they were edgy and crude and they got to make all the dirty jokes and the racist jokes they wanted to in their time but you know now well we've moved past that i made my money doing it but i don't think it's appropriate for you to do anything like that and if you do i'll
Starting point is 00:05:48 condemn you for it i think that's one of the most obnoxious things we've seen in recent years. We see it happen very frequently. It's called trolls' remorse. Sirius and Stern are never going to meet any meat on the money he's going to want. It's no longer worth the investment. Why would anyone care about Howard Stern in the modern age? The last thing he did is completely neuter himself,
Starting point is 00:06:16 prove that he was never, never the edgy guy he pretended to be. never had any principles. But as far as him coming back doing the show, there's no way they can keep paying his salary. This, of course, is what we see happening. They're not profitable anymore. People don't care. He's a relic.
Starting point is 00:06:39 He's a fossil of a time gone by. Whatever he represented, there's other people that do it better. People that are more high-energy. Younger guys that you can watch for free on YouTube or anywhere you can find a podcast. Of course, Sirius was one of the first companies, maybe the first company to be run by a tranny CEO.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Stern rose to fame in the 1980s when he launched the Howard Stern show. He did a 20-year run with New York City's WXRK, where his show first became nationally syndicated into 60 markets with 20 million listeners at its peak. Stern moved over to Sirius XM in 2006 and has been there ever since. Well, he first cut his teeth as a shock jock, discussing all sorts of taboo topics. Later in his career, Stern became known for his in-depth celebrity interviews. This is always one of the things I find funny.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Oh, he's such a good interviewer. He's such a good interviewer. I mean, one of the key parts, it seems, of being a good interviewer. I'm not saying I'm speaking from experience or that I have any special insight. It seems just like being able to shut up and let the person talk. And not having your studio be sterile and weird. If you can make the studio comfortable for them to hang around in and chat in, it seems that's a bigger aspect of it. Well, I mean, look at their examples of his in-depth, hard-hitting reporting that they have here in the article.
Starting point is 00:08:15 It's from Lady Gaga opening up about her past drug addiction to Courtney Coxpot. It's absolute nonsense. Like, why waste your time on any of this? Yeah. Celebrity interviews. Who cares? Goodness. Who watches these things? Who sits around like, yes, I can't wait to listen to Lady Gaga.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Tell me about her drug addiction. Boy. What an important legacy he's leaving behind. Hart has been at Sirius X-Sem since with his contracts estimated. to be between 80 million and 100 million a year over the last two decades. He also starred in was the executive producer of his autobiography, Blockbuster Movie, Private Parts, which debuted in 1997.
Starting point is 00:09:10 And again, he's paid $100 million a year so that people like Lady Gaga can come in and tell you about their drug addiction. Who cares? So long, Howard Stern, you won't be missed. Your career ends flat. KWD68, the cultural insanity you know may be better than the one you don't. Perhaps. Well, we've got China making humanoid robots. Well, China's humanoid robotics index jumps after Unitary debuts stella hunter. This is their new dog. Let's take a look at the video. Look, it bursts through a pane of glass.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Runs right through it. It's doing backflips. And front flips. You know, they call these things robot dogs. The more you look at them, the more insect-like they seem. It's hopping up and down. It's hopping around on one leg. It's going across all kinds of different terrain, rocky and shale, dirt.
Starting point is 00:10:38 At least they finally get them in an accurate name, Stellar Hunter. They know what these things are going to be useful. Yeah, this isn't going to be. to be used for search and rescue. It's going to be used to hunt people down. We've got a guy standing on it, jumping on it. It's climbing some large steps. Again, it's just so creepy the way it moves. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:11:09 And it's descending a very steep staircase. Ultra wide, LIDAR, 3D perception. That's right, it's going to be very efficient at navigating places to hunt you down. Oh look, it's used for package delivery. And when you're hiking, it can carry an extra bag for you. Oh look. You can even put wheels on it. And that's by Unitri.
Starting point is 00:12:08 The sole active China Humanoid Robotics Index, a thematic Equity Index, tracking Chinese companies involved in the commercialization of humanoid. and robotics technologies jump more than 4% on Wednesday after Chinese robotics from Unitry, at least a stunning video of its new robot dog. Again, they call them robot dogs, but they're not very dog-like. Aside from the fact that they have four legs that they put on them, I don't see any resemblance to dogs at all.
Starting point is 00:12:37 This thing is not going to be man's best friend, not in the slightest. It's going to hunch you down. They're going to put some kind of weapon on this thing. The main trigger for today's robotic stocks is Unitri's new robot dog. Robot dog. And I've had in the deck for a while the video talking about Disney's robot droids for their Star Wars universe thing in Disney World and how they have intentionally designed it to make it cute. I thought that was kind of amusing that they're trying to make these things look
Starting point is 00:13:15 unthreatening while you know China's out there they do not care they make this thing very very creepy Chinese robotics from unitary arguably the global leader and affordable consumer grade quadrupeds and robo dogs
Starting point is 00:13:30 has just released footage of its latest machine the A2 stellar hunter now what's it going to hunt they don't specify but I think we might be able to make a guess the new robo dog brings flashbacks to Black Mirror's infamous 2017 episode
Starting point is 00:13:45 metalhead, where a killer robot dog stock and exterminate humans in a post-apocalyptic world. Black Mirror. Never really watched that. I think I've seen maybe one episode, maybe. I don't even think a full episode. This is another one of those things that it's like, why would I watch this? We're going to be living it soon enough. I don't need you.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Well, that's enough about Unitry and their robot, And again, they're, the whole robot dog thing I think is to put a bray, put a friendly little face on it. Like, well, it's a robot dog. How bad could it be? I love dogs. Dogs are great. Here's that video I was talking about. These little droids are different than other robots I've tested because they're designed and trained by Disney to be cute. And that is a surprisingly big deal for the future of robotics. These droids aren't autonomous. They're operated using this controller. But I'm not telling it exactly how to do that. The way that it responds, comes. comes from its training. Using ducklings as inspiration, the engineers created a bunch of animations that told these robots how to walk or jump or dance. Then they put digital versions of the robot into a simulation, where they're rewarded for performing those movements and sticking as close as possible to the original animations.
Starting point is 00:15:01 After the robots get tons of reps in the digital world, they upload the training to real prototypes, and finally they're ready to go out into the real world. To see more of Disney's coolest tech, go watch our longer video. Yeah, to see more of Disney's coolest tech. I cannot stand Disney. Everything they have made in the past. Yeah, close to 20 years has been completely worthless, unwatchable, dull. They are a shadow of their former self.
Starting point is 00:15:32 I cannot understand how they continue to make money. It does not make any sense to me. Steve Evs, Tony Arterburn, and a real Christian pastor, Chuck Baldwin, when a great day. Last time in a voting booth, and, 2008. I voted only for Chuck Baldwin. I haven't voted since. Yeah, it's going to be a great day, as I said. The Chuck Baldwin interview will be in the third hour. We'll play that out for the end of the show. So make sure you stick around for that. It will be uploaded, of course, and you'll be able to watch it on
Starting point is 00:16:01 Rumble, Odyssey, bitch shoot, all the places we upload to. But stick around, check it out. It's going to be fantastic. North American House Hippo. I got to see a robot dragon at work during technical rehearsal. It is meant to look cute and adorable, but I can't help but picture it as a robot cop. That's where this is all going. Knights of the Storm, what do you feed a robot dog, kibbles and bites? That's pretty good. Active shooter reported at Fort Stewart Base Airfield Schools locked down. And of course, we've seen before that these soldiers on the base are not allowed to carry weapons for their own self-defense. Commander of Fort Stewart has issued a lockdown
Starting point is 00:16:48 in the 2ABCT area of the Fort Stewart, including Wright and Evans Army Airfield, as well as the Fort Stewart Schools. Law enforcement has confirmed there is an active shooter on the scene. Four people have been taken to the hospital. One suspect has been identified by law enforcement. Community Superintendent Brian Perry issued a statement to Kessler Elementary School, Murray Elementary School and Diamond Elementary School, which reads, per DoD Alert, the commander of Fort Stewart has issued a lockdown.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Diamond-Kessler-Murray schools are all in a lockdown at this time. There is no immediate threat to the schools at this time. We will send a message when an all-clear is announced. So this is what the second shooting at a military base we've seen in two months, I believe. Five soldiers wounded by fellow soldier in shooting at Fort Stewart in Georgia, suspect in custody. officials say. The alleged shooter identified as Sergeant Cornelius, Cornelius with a cue, was it Quarnelius. Radford was quickly subdued by other soldiers. Regator General John Lewis told reporters, whoever named this guy Quornelius, you are bad parents. Bad parents. You put that
Starting point is 00:18:01 cue back where it belongs, so help me. All five of the wounded were transported to the hospital in stable condition. Lubas said three of the soldiers acquired surgery and are expected to recover, which we are happy to hear. Lubas said that Radford used a personal handgun, not a military-issued weapon. Because, of course, as a general rule, they're not allowed to carry on the base. Texas Dems on the Lamb have three days to return or lose their jobs.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Texas Attorney General Ken Paxon said a Friday deadline for Democratic state lawmakers to return to work in the legislature or else face removal from office. They really don't want to come back. Mr. Paxton said he'll ask a court to declare vacant the seats of every House Democrat who fled the state earlier this week in a bid to block a GOP. He planned to redraw congressional district lines. No, you can't do that. You're not allowed to. The GOP-led Texas House voted Monday to issue civil arrest warrants for the missing Democrats. Senator John Cornyn asked the FBI to help track down the lawmakers and carry out the arrests. That's right.
Starting point is 00:19:06 They're going to hunt down these Democrats and whatever C.D. Heidi. hole they're in and drag them back to Texas. Democrats have abandoned their offices by fleeing Texas, Mr. Paxton said in a statement, and a failure to respond to a call of the House constitutes a dereliction of duty as elected officials. The judge agrees Mr. Abbott would call for a special election to fill the seats. The GOP doesn't seem to care too much about the Islamification that's going on in Texas. We've got to deal with these Democrats not being there to vote. Oh, by the way, the mass immigration of Muslims that are going to take over the state.
Starting point is 00:19:49 The fact they're building their own little enclaves, not a problem, who cares? This is from Zero Hedge. Watch invasion fatigue strikes as Spanish beachgoers tackle boat full of illegal migrants. The people of Europe are getting fed up with this. Every day there's more and more of them. They don't respect the culture. They're violent. They don't speak the language.
Starting point is 00:20:13 They're continually engaged in crime. We've seen it in things like the rape gangs in England. People are fed up. Video of a small town in Spain shows beach-going locals, tackling and detaining a boatload of illegal immigrants who suddenly washed up and attempted to flee in the middle of the day. The video shot in the Granada Town of Castel de Fort. Deferro shows a speedboat, pull up in what is clearly a coordinated trafficking attempt before
Starting point is 00:20:44 around a dozen North Africans jump into the water and begin to swim to shore. Police were chasing the illegal's frustrated Spaniards joined in with several attempting to stop the migrants. This is, again, what is happening all across Europe. The governments are refusing to do anything about it. They're not taking any serious action. The countries are being overrun by people. will very rapidly destroy them. Even if they aren't actively trying to destroy them, just by the sheer nature of the cultures they come from,
Starting point is 00:21:21 that's what will happen. We've got the video. I mean, these people are called the refugees from these countries, but they're refugees from crime. And overwhelmingly, they are, you know, male-aged, you know, teen to 30s the types of people that are committing the crime in the countries that are causing the refugee crisis in the first place yeah let's take a look at the video one migrant's land on a busy tourist beach you can see the boat coming in it is loaded
Starting point is 00:22:02 say run run what is it men come here with the boy And they just pile out of the boat, start scurrying away. And this is happening continually. This isn't a one-time thing. This is almost... I would not be surprised if it was daily. was daily, and it's getting to a point in Europe where just about daily there'll be a new headline out of England where some migrant is charged with rape or attempted rape of a British girl. That's the future these people have created with their uncontrolled immigration.
Starting point is 00:22:57 They have imported the third world, and now these countries are becoming the third world. As I said, even if these people aren't actively hostile, by the nature of the third world, the fact that they come from a different culture and don't care about the culture they're moving into, the host culture will be destroyed, and of course the infrastructure as well. They don't have the technical knowledge, the skills, or really probably even the ability to learn them. They won't be able to keep up with it. According to reports in the Spanish media, while several of the men were captured, others managed to get away. It is happening every day for years in Spain, yet another European country
Starting point is 00:23:35 that has thrown its borders wide open and has been invaded by upwards of 8 million illegal immigrants in recent years. And of course, these numbers are all largely guesses. There are more videos
Starting point is 00:23:51 like the one we played in this article. I can play if you want to see more of that. Yeah. It's a... We know what's happening. We've... Maybe roll one more of them. But this is... is the type of thing that happens every single day.
Starting point is 00:24:09 You can see them swimming in. Lower the volume. They swim in and they take off running. Heartwarming. They capture him. These. You are not entitled to flee to these countries. You're not entitled to live in these same spaces.
Starting point is 00:24:44 They jump off the boat and they just start swimming in. This is, again, this is the future of Europe. And this is what is... This is a coordinated effort from, you know, The people driving this boat that don't get off the thing, it's a large group of people that are presumably paying them to. They are being ferried. Of course, we've seen it also being done with NGOs.
Starting point is 00:25:18 This is the planned collapse of Europe. And it is really the planned collapse of white countries. It seems to be only white countries where this is, happening. Not very many people are clamoring to emigrate, demanding illegally, showing up in countries that aren't white. But packed with over 100 legal migrants hit the beach near Almera, Spain. This is another one. But again, we showed you multiple videos. This is a continual ongoing issue. It happens over and over again. This is the plan. This is how they plan to both destroy the cultures of Europe
Starting point is 00:26:01 and keep a population there or doing whatever minor work they need. Also, a new population that will beat, abuse, rape, and pillage the European population. Because the people in charge despise Europeans. They hate Europe because Europe is where
Starting point is 00:26:25 the freedoms we enjoy today were born. as a general rule. That's where people actually cared about them. They spent a long time working through them, discussing them. And they will do everything they can to erase that history. And we've got some comments here. KWD, it's all cute until their eyes turn red. Talking about the robots.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Night to the Storm. A robot alligator would be more impressive. Yeah. Now, robot alligator, that would be. scary. Very scary indeed. This is from Zero Hedge. The Dark Side, a big solar exposed as the fight to save farmland heats up. They're putting solar panels, massive solar farms, on actual farmland, getting rid of a lot of land that is actually useful to convert it into this largely useless solar panel nonsense. When my wife and I traveled
Starting point is 00:27:29 between Texas and Tennessee. We do a drive. We don't fly. And the number of times we'll pass by massive solar panel arrays is a little bit mind boggling, just out in the middle of what again looks like farmland or what looks like used to be farmland. You'll just see acres upon acres of solar panels. Now this is precious farmland bulldoze in the name of the so-called green energy movement all to fight a climate crisis that exists more in the headlines of leftist corporate propaganda media outlets than in the actual world we've got some pictures right here as well you can see that in the article you can see this here it is a huge amount of solar panels that are being put on to these
Starting point is 00:28:20 this again land that could be used to produce food could be used for just about anything else, and at least even if you just left them as empty green fields, they wouldn't be such an eyesore. And we see so many different angles of attack on the food supply from the same people and typically of the same justification of, oh, well, you can't have food or else the world is going to burn. Yeah, can't have... You can't have fertilizer, you can't have the actual food. farmland. You can't have a tractor that works properly because John Deere is going to be
Starting point is 00:29:03 the one that decides it's going to do an update. You're not going to be allowed to work on it yourself. You're going to have to rent it from them continual. This is more pictures. Two-thirds of megasolar farms built on productive farmland. This is again an attack on farmers. They are continually attacking farmers. We've got a little bit of a video here. We'll play some of it. So I just wanted to bring you here to show you. Who are you? Sorry. Oh, I've just been letting by these guys. This is a solar panel farm that's being put up in the West Country.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Look at this field down here that they're completely ripping up in order to... You can't be on here. Thank you. Don't push me down. You can't touch me. You can't be on here. I just walked in. They're completely destroying the valley to put the panels up. And these solar panels are going... They're just ripping up.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Entire areas of our country. countryside. And let me show you as well the plastic packaging that these guys have. So I think the way you're getting across with me is you that's ripping up my countryside. I don't know why you're getting crossed with me. So the plastic packaging that goes around all of this stuff, none of this can be recycled, obviously, but it's so green, it's so good for the environment, I'm sure. And I'm sure local people didn't want this on their farmland either because this makes it harder for farmers to be able to rent space. Please don't touch me.
Starting point is 00:30:27 And then over here, let me show you these boxes. I'll go in a moment, okay. I just want to show people what's being delivered to our farmland. And I let myself in, it was no one else, thank you. And here is all the solar panels. Bear in mind these solar panels can't be recycled. So this is all future landfill. Look at the size of these things.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And look at all the plastic wrap on there. Film me, sir. Yeah, my name's Katie Hopkins. I'm just trying to stand up for the countryside and the ridiculousness of net zero. That is, of course, as she said, Katie Hopkins. You can see they're getting very cross with her, as she said. They don't like being filmed doing this. They don't like the fact that she just walked in and was determined to show people what's going on. They don't like that.
Starting point is 00:31:20 They'd rather do this with no one around to watch, no one to know who did it. Because they know people are going to be upset. that people aren't going to be happy. Had a comment from dad, our dad, David Knight, says, Solar Farms produce the food that AI needs. Humans can die. They don't care. That's right, they need more power output
Starting point is 00:31:42 for these massive AI servers. They're going to continually do whatever they need to power them on, get them up and running. Whatever it does to the humans that are in the way, doesn't matter. In fact, if it does cause some to start, starve and die, I'm sure they're more than happy about that. Katie Hopkins is doing a great job reporting on that.
Starting point is 00:32:02 I mean, it's not even a great method for feeding the AI unless you're also intending to destroy the farmland since it's not going to produce steady power for it. They are still going to need some coal or nuclear plant that they can fire up and fire down. Especially in England, where the sun is routinely covered by clouds. Solar doesn't seem like the best option there. It seems like all I hear is people in England complaining about the cloud cover. North American House, Sipo, yesterday I saw a Waymo driverless taxi blow a red light in Orlando at a camera intersection. I guess the city will mail the ticket to Uber headquarters in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Yeah, I'm sure that's not going to cause issues. How do you properly ticket one of those things? Assyrian girl, yep, no one is storming the beaches of Africa. Nope, no, they are not. no one's super eager to get there they've they see what even if they were they'd see what was happening to the white south africans and realize you know what this isn't a good idea nights of the storm i'm going to wait till africa is empty then go there they have a lot of natural resources and land africa actually does have a metric ton of natural resources
Starting point is 00:33:20 That's what makes their plight all the more surprising. They have so much they could utilize, and yet they don't. The mystery of the L.A. mansion filled with surrogate children. A couple with ties to China say they wanted a big family. Surrogates who carried the children say they were deceived. It's from Arcadia, California. In early May, after a baby was hospitalized with possible signs of child abuse, police showed up at a nine-bedroom mansion in the South San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:33:50 suburb known for lavish homes and residents with roots in China and said they found 15 more children, none other than three, living under the care of nannies. Very strange. The investigative trail led them to six more children at other homes in the Los Angeles area. A Chinese-born man and woman living in the mansion said they were the parents of all 22, 22 within three years, none of them older than three. Birth certificates list them as such. With Mr. The testified police was that the children appeared to have been born all over the U.S. in rapid succession. It really makes you question what's going on there. It makes you wonder if maybe this is some kind of baby procurement scheme.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Seems unlikely that they would simply be getting that many children for their own interest. Especially when they're all being raised by nannies. Yeah. there's signs of abuse. There's something fishy going on there. There's something strange. I don't know exactly what, but you can bet that when China's involved, it's something shady. As I've said before, the Chinese have this culture of professing very loudly with flowery language, how honorable they are, how it would shame their ancestors, were they to not be honorable, and then immediately stab you in the back, do everything they can to undercut you,
Starting point is 00:35:22 whether it's in business or in just life in general. When you were doing business, when we were in China, you know, I don't like haggling. I find it tedious. I find it boring. I want to tell you a price if I'm selling something that I will accept. And if you don't like that price, that's fine. I don't want to sit here and bicker back and forth. This is the price that works for me.
Starting point is 00:35:46 And I don't want to have to bicker with you about a price. I don't want to feel like, you know, I'm trying not to be, you know, screwed on a deal. But that was seen as normal. If you're not haggling in China, you're getting taking advantage of. They set the price exorbitantly high, especially for foreigners. It is all about taking as much advantage of everyone as you can. Fonzie Bear, if it isn't evident that they are pushing the worst of these countries, people into the West, you haven't been paying attention.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Yeah, we were being flooded by the most violent, the most violent, least educated, most problematic members of every society. We can see that, as I said, just about every single day this past week. I've seen a headline out of the UK about a migrant rapist. Not the same one, a new one, every single day, which is obsessive. and unbelievable. Yona and Ewoody. These are not just immigrants at all. They are being human traffic by wealthy benefactors. We are not dumb. These people cannot afford these travels. They are completing subsidized population replacement. Yeah, that's why I mentioned the NGOs. There are, as Yona says, being subsidized. They're being brought over. They are the
Starting point is 00:37:06 replacements for you and me. And Nadlander about the solar says we never hear about the battery banks on these systems. Nope. They don't want to talk about them. They don't want to mention the massive battery banks it's going to take and how dangerous they are and how toxic the chemicals and the batteries are going to be once they are no longer useful and they have to be gotten rid of. That's assuming these batteries don't spontaneously combust at some point. Got a comment from David Knight says, as she pointed out, they're maniacally putting up solar panels at the same time they're trying to dim the sun. That's right. We got to dim the sun. We've got to put up these solar panels. We've got to dim the sun. We've got to put up these solar
Starting point is 00:37:46 Ignore the fact that these are contradictory and opposite goals. KWD68, these solar panels don't hurt wildlife at all. Safe the Earth. That's right. They're totally safe for wildlife. I'm sure there's no adverse effects. It's not going to be like the windmills where birds burst and bats explode when they fly through the low pressure and the front to the high pressure in the back. Or just get clobbered by the blades.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I forget where it was, but just the... Just the wind farm was taking out a bunch of bald eagles. I want to say it was someplace up north. Yona and I Wode seen so many solar panel farms up towards Circleville, Ohio, covering flat, arable, rich land. Why not cover parking lots and rooftops instead of highways? It really makes you wonder. No, they don't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:38:37 They like taking out the farmland. Well, they aren't drawing food on the highways and parking lots, so therefore it makes more sense to put these up on fall. The end goal is the destruction of the supply chain, so why wouldn't they? Knights of the storm, empty green fields would scrub the CO2 they are so afraid of. Yeah. See, they would look nice, they would have a function, they'd be pleasant everything these people object to. So they've got to put up these hideous, hideous solar farms.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Disney's secret experiments with AI have reportedly been a comical disaster. I say it's bringing down the mouse. This is by Noor al-Sibai. The popular narrative is that workers the movie and TV industry are set to be trampled by artificial intelligence, but the reality may be more complicated. Behind the scenes, Disney has reportedly been struggling to deploy AI after creating a whole new business unit dedicated to the tech,
Starting point is 00:39:33 especially without enraging people they still rely on in the process. As Wall Street Journal reports, Disney has on multiple occasions in recent years scrapped AI projects over legal concerns and warnings that actor and writer's unions may reject the technology that could ultimately replace them. The entertainment conglomerate recently decided, for instance, do clone Dwayne the Rock Johnson for his role in the upcoming live-action Moana remake by deep-faking his face, and his similarly shaped cousin, Tanaway, Reed's body.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Johnson approved of the gamut, but Disney's attorneys were ultimately unable to pin down how to protect the data from such digital double filming, moving to ensure that the company owned every aspect of the intellectual property if any of it was generated with AI. So, Dwayne the Rock Johnson is such a
Starting point is 00:40:23 mediocre actor. He plays every movie I've ever seen him in. He's the exact same character. He is the exact same. He is the poster child for someone you could replace with AI. There's no personality there. He is simply,
Starting point is 00:40:41 large and imposing and he is very large and very imposing he's extremely extremely muscular so you know good for him on that yeah but I mean that is more you know entitling him to be a character actor yeah the guy that they cast to play he's not a leading man for he's it really at when you look at people like dwayne the Rock Johnson and Pedro Pascal it really makes me wonder how people are becoming popular because it seems to me when I talk to other people, no one likes these actors. No. They just get all the roles for some reason. Uh, Dwayne the Rock Johnson can't act. My goodness, Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart cannot act to save his life. He's in everything. All the time.
Starting point is 00:41:29 We get it, Kevin Hart. You're loud. You're short and you're loud. Ha ha. Isn't that funny? Kevin Hart is some kind of sciop perpetrated on the American public. And whoever started that one should be ashamed of themselves. They should be pulled up on charges because I cannot stand it. One more movie with Kevin Hart and I'm going to lose it. Johnson approved of the Gambit. Virtually all frontier AI models were created using publicly scraped text and imagery. Anything you produce with them exists on shaky copyright ground. A haziness that's anathema to Disney's notorious stranglehold on its characters and properties. Can't, don't want to accidentally put something out into the public there. Disney and its AI partner metaphysics ultimately couldn't
Starting point is 00:42:15 hammer out a contract despite 18 months of trying. If the army of lawyers Disney has on staff couldn't figure this out, no one is going to. If Disney's incapable of making it work, there is no way, no way anyone else has a chance. These people are some of the most litigious sue happy people on the planet to keep, as I said, an army of very highly paid, very, very good lawyers on deck. If they're not able to do it, it is impossible. North American House Hippo, thank you very much. That is very generous. We appreciate it. I was listening to a Toronto radio station on my phone app yesterday, 680 News. My former employer up there has been building a transit line for 15 years. It's years overdue billions over budget.
Starting point is 00:43:06 it seems like that's always the way with public projects, isn't it? Funny. North American Asapo again, thank you very much again. Now, Metro Links is claiming that the rail cars, which have sat unused for 10 years, are aging and must be replaced. Rome wasn't built in the day. It was a government job. Well, honestly, I think maybe if you got the Romans involved with this, they might be able to figure it out. I think maybe the Romans, if you put the Romans in charge of Canada, things might start equalize. Nights of the Storm. The net output of a panel over its ice span will never be what it was put in to create them. It's a grift. We see this over and over again with every sort of green
Starting point is 00:43:48 energy source ends up being a grift of some kind. They're always somehow more pollute. They pollute more. They don't produce enough energy. They kill birds or bats or something in the environment. They're always somehow more detrimental than they are beneficial. And it's, again, just goes to show you when you look into this, just how gullible people are. It's for the environment. It's for the environment, they say, as they drive around a Tesla that is going to have to be disposed of at some point, and those batteries are going to leach into the soil. Nights of the storm, green energy is a money laundering scheme, tax dollars to the stakeholders who donate to politicians. They always get their money back. When you see someone donating to a politician,
Starting point is 00:44:42 a billionaire donating, you know it's because they're going to follow their agenda. USDA used Scarlett Johanson, Adam Driver, Marriage Story, shouting scenes to stop wolves from killing cattle. And apparently, the only people who find modern, the only things that find modern Hollywood movies more obnoxious than I do are wolves. They can't take it. Speaking of another actor that no one likes that's in everything, here's Adam Driver. He got his Disney Star Wars contract and he's been set ever since. I would be surprised if you get those Disney Star Wars contracts if you ever have to work again.
Starting point is 00:45:28 These movies are so repugnant they can be. used to repel wolves. The U.S. Department of Agriculture is using an argument scene from the 2019 film Marriage Story to scare wolves away from farms along the West Coast. And a strange couple played by Scarlett Johansson and Adam Driver
Starting point is 00:45:44 loudly and intensely vent their frustrations. It's among several audio clips being used by the USDA to scare away wolves from the livestock. I need the wolves to respond and know that, hey, humans are bad. Well, then, you've got the right idea. Showing them people from Hollywood will
Starting point is 00:46:00 really clue them in that humans are bad maybe you could play eyes wide shut next and they'd really get that idea wolves have better taste in movies than Hollywood producers yeah this is similar to what the CIA did with noriega blaring stuff at him to get him to surrender in panama poor wolves being subjected to modern Hollywood this isn't something i would wish on my worst and certainly not certainly not wolves wolves do not concern themselves with the opinions of
Starting point is 00:46:38 Adam Driver well we're going to take a quick break when we come back we're going to look at the 80th anniversary of Hiroshima so stay with us folks we'll be right back Thank you. I'm
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Starting point is 00:48:47 As I said, we're going to be looking at Hiroshima now. We've got comments from Fonzie Bear about the solar panels. We all saw the acres of solar panels destroyed by recent storms, not very reliable. Duh, yeah. They're fairly easy to damage. And once they're damaged, they're not producing that much energy at all. Knights of the Storm responding says that happened in Colorado Springs. They get frequent hailstorms, and it wrecked a relatively new solar field on base.
Starting point is 00:49:15 I imagine a hailstorm takes out just about all of the solar panels. I can't imagine one being functional after being pelted by hail. They're fairly fragile. They're kind of delicate, which is not something you want in a technology that you're putting out. in the open. We have the 80th anniversary of Hiroshima. This is from the Free Thought Project. Hiroshima at 80, setting the important precedent for atomic warfare.
Starting point is 00:49:44 80 years after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, Nagasaki, many still cling to the lie. The mass murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent people was the only way to subdue Japan and end the Second World War. But an astute review of the sentiments of America's top military leaders at the time reveals the truth. this is yesterday August 6th was the 80th anniversary August 6th marks the 80th anniversary of mankind's most cataclysmic and ignominious achievement the first weaponized use of an atomic bomb at approximately 815 in the
Starting point is 00:50:19 morning the bomb little boy detonated over the city of Hiroshima japan all estimates have varied between 70,000 and 140,000 dead the sheer magnitude of devastation caused to a largely civilian population cannot be understated to this day, much debate rages on regarding the necessity of such weapons in the closing chapter of the Second World War. We saw a extreme disregard for life here. You can also see it in things like the Dresden bombing. The bombing of Dresden doesn't get as much publicity. It's not as reported on as the atomic bombs, but Dresden was another place where they took out a huge number of civilians. There's a video of a old World War II veteran. I don't know what show he was on,
Starting point is 00:51:08 but he was a British man talking about what he saw when they marched through Dresden after the bombing. And they would find some skeletons, and he said there was just almost like a jelly of melted flesh and organs and things that was around. And he broke down. When he started talking about the fact that, you know, well, we didn't see any children's skeletons. And it's, he said, it's because the children's skeletons aren't as, uh, they're not as dense. And so they just burn away. And he was horrified by that. He, all these years later, was still unable to talk about it without, uh, coming to tears. War crimes against civilian populations don't cease to be war crimes just because you
Starting point is 00:51:58 don't like the government of those civilians. The current orthodoxy of American military history, however, stands firmly entrenched at the usage of this bomb, and a subsequent one in Nagasaki three days later, was critical to ending the war quickly and saving the lives of countless Americans and even Japanese civilians who would have assuredly died in the ensuing operation to seize the entirety of mainland Japan. But how vital was the atomic bombing truly to ending the war? Operation Downfall, and it's a downfall of our morals and ethics.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Let's actually, as I read this, first let's take a look at this U.S. Nuke test footage. This is the type of thing my dad grew up seeing over and over again. This horrifying footage of what a nuclear blast does. Of course, they set up this mock town out in the desert, and they filmed it. Explosion goes off. I'm going to continue reading the article as this plays in the background. It just demolishes the house.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Modern military historians desperately cling to the notion set forth by former war secretary Henry Stimson. That a force to carry a ground invasion of Japan to conclusion it would cost over a million casualties to American forces alone. The invasion dubbed Operation Downfall. And while a large preponderance of scholarship on the matter seeks to reaffirm these claims, it was a dubious metric, even at the time. No pre-Horotima literature can be found that would back up these claims. It appears to be a post-war invention by Stimpsen, Truman, at all, to justify the decision. There's even contemporary descent.
Starting point is 00:53:51 The list of senior contemporary military figures, that whether quietly earned confidence to the president question the necessity is extensive and awe-inspiring. Admiral William DeLahey, Chief of Staff to the Commander Chief, it is my opinion that use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade with successful bombing with conventional weapons. The lethal possibilities of atomic warfare in the future are frightening.
Starting point is 00:54:22 My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the dark ages, Admiral Leahy wrote. While Ike did not serve in the Pacific Theater, he was a five-star general, and later, 34th President of the United States. And as such, his opinion carries heavyweight and historical record.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Admiral Chester W. Nimitz, commander-in-chief, specifically, the commander of the very theater in which the bomb was dropped, reportedly also felt that the weapons were not necessary to end the war. In 1946, a statement, he told a group of scientists the military was not responsible. I've informed that the decision to drop the atomic bomb on Japanese cities was made at a higher level than that of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, according to the National World War II Museum, the state was made in response to Admiral Halsey's third-fleet commander during World War II claimed that the first atomic bomb was an unnecessary experiment.
Starting point is 00:55:19 It was a mistake to ever drop it. General Douglas MacArthur. Perhaps most surprisingly given later proclivity to advocate for atomic warfare in the Korean War was General MacArthur who, confiding to his personal pilot, was appalled and depressed by this Frankenstein monster. He's also listed as a dissident toward the usage of the bomb in later years. John J. McCloy, assistant secretary of war. These are just a list of people. Have a comment from Dad, those videos were scarier than a Twilight Zone.
Starting point is 00:55:52 So to me as a kid. Yeah. This is what our dad's generation grew up with, seeing this, being shown it. This is, again, the propaganda, the fear that was instilled. We have another video here of the Hiroshima bombing. The Hiroshima bomb. This is detailing what actually happened with it. Shows the activation. Nuclear bombs detonate in the air above before they make impact.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Devastation. People used to be present. People used to be present. These bombings are a shame on America's history. In places like Hiroshima Nagasaki, I've seen pictures where there are still the permanent markings, the shadows, burned in shadows of people where they were vaporized when the bombs went off,
Starting point is 00:57:44 permanently etched into the streets and the walls there. Challenging to the last, man narrative. One of the biggest aspects of this discussion hinges on the notion that Japan must totally capitulate to win the war. Advocates of the bomb argue based on Stimson's perspective that Japan was willing to fight to the very last man. However, as we've established, very senior leaders of the day did not uniformly believe this. This further comes into question when one recognized that the ultimate terms of surrender, namely that the emperor of Japan remain in place was a viable option before the bombing of Hiroshima. Japanese sources from the time, while fractured
Starting point is 00:58:22 and chaotic due to extreme disagreements between various senior leaders largely indicate that it was understood that the war was lost and that Japan needed to sue for peace. With no viable Navy or Air Force left and its disposal in an army that had been decimated by a war on multiple fronts, foreign minister Shin Shigenori, Togo began planning for surrender. In a cable that was the interceptant on July 12, 1945, Togo wrote to the Japanese ambassador to the Soviet Union to sound out the possibilities of utilizing the Soviet Union. Union in connection with the termination of the war. Japanese were already looking at ways to sue for peace.
Starting point is 00:59:01 They were already aware that it was over, that there was no winning this, that the continuation of it would be a futile endeavor. Don't frag me, bro. The strategic bombing of Europe was just as horrific. The strategic bombing of North Vietnam only solidified the national attitude into an anti-American one. We've seen this happen routinely. Nights of the Storm, I learned to duck and cover in grade school. KWD 68, mid-century fear porn.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Duck and cover. That's right, duck and cover. Just put your head under your desk, and who knows, just maybe, if someone does ever make it through the irradiated wasteland, they'll be able to find your dental records. Maybe they'll find part of your skull and be able to identify you. You know, people know that, oh, look, this is right where he died. Duck and cover was a complete,
Starting point is 00:59:52 waste of time. You're not going to survive a nuclear blast by ducking and covering your head. Don't frag me, bro. The powers that be asserted that Nagasaki and Hiroshima would be uninhabitable for hundreds of years, yet 80 years later, four generations, and not so obvious anymore. The, uh, defemory serves, I want to say the Japanese worked very hard to dispose of a lot of irradiated waste. I remember reading a story about some, uh, how many people, uh, how much the elderly Japanese came in and said, well, I don't have much time left to live. So if I can dedicate that to getting rid of some of this radiation, you know, that's worth it. Even if I end up with cancer or dying from the side effects of radiation,
Starting point is 01:00:39 it'll be worth it to make the land better for the future generations. I remember reading something along those lines. But who knows, maybe that was a bait story on the internet. I've also heard that you get far, far less nuclear fallout if the bomb detonates in the air rather than on impact. If it detonates on impact, it throws up a huge amount of irradiated dust, whereas if it detonates in the air, it'll irradiate the surface of the ground, but then that's not as nearly as bad. I don't know. steveves how long after nuclear bombing does it take for that area to be livable kwd zero months to living in hiroshima and nagasaki people never left guard goldsmith i knew a nice young lady from siberia who grew up near a nuke plant that had leaked she couldn't have children so sad poor thing radiation has some very strange effects The war was over and Japan knew it a month before Hiroshima.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Togo felt that the most prudent measure to end the war, while still at the very least maintaining a homeland, was to ask for Soviet intercession and peace talks with the Allied forces. It was already known. The Japanese were on the cusp of suing for peace. It is difficult to put into words the weight that atomic warfare brought to the conclusion of the Second World War. It served as a horrifying and needless bookend
Starting point is 01:02:18 to the worst catastrophe in the history of mankind. Senior leaders of the day recognize that in the dying embers of World War II, such weaponry was reckless and not needed to secure victory. It was a pointless act of barbarism, a massive civilian casualty. Two of them, when viewed through the lens of nearly,
Starting point is 01:02:43 a century of clarity. It is hard to come away from any conclusion, other than that the bombings of Rochman Nagasaki were cruel signaling tools, with hundreds of thousands of innocent souls placed squarely in their experimental crosshairs. It was a mass murder of civilians. It was another military industrial complex test of their new toy, their latest weapon. It also allowed them to instill this, you know, the continual fear of the nuclear bomb in people. Dad said it's like a murderer constantly looking over his shoulder. We had used it, and so now we had to live in fear that someone would use it on us. Constantly being made to fear.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Duck and cover. Look, it's going to happen. You know, we did it, and so, who knows, the Russians could use it, maybe the North Koreans. North Koreans are the ones that were used as sort of a nuclear prop when we were going up. They weren't as effective. You know, they've always been kind of a tin pot dictatorship. It's going to be Iran. They're going to be the next ones to do with everyone.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Just as Mossad. This is, again, an unconscionable. action in my opinion this is a mass civilian murder Fonzie Bear all those videos have been outed as fake by Engels cameras
Starting point is 01:04:25 not being destroyed no fallout areas in any of the U.S. Wow so they ginned up all this propaganda I'd never heard that but I can believe it is a good question why don't the cameras move
Starting point is 01:04:39 Epstein Island how do the cameras survive the blast remove the Liberty 1967 cameras don't move I'd always been curious about that I just know some of the things like
Starting point is 01:04:49 well maybe they had some way of transmitting the signal back very curious that's something I always just assumed it was really zoomed in cameras but it would have to be
Starting point is 01:05:00 insanely zoomed in makes sense makes sense there's another one of those things where no one is immune to propaganda if you see it when you're young you don't question it
Starting point is 01:05:11 it gets past your critical thinking ability. I've seen those nuclear bomb test footage videos over and over again since I was a very small child. It just gets in there, and it's hard to question. This is from the Mises Institute, Harry Truman and the atomic bomb. Apocracy of criticizing the bombings while simultaneously defending the use of conventional weapons against civilian targets.
Starting point is 01:05:37 The most spectacular episode of Harry Truman's presidency will never be forgotten, but will be forever linked to his name. Atomic bombings of Hiroshima on August 6,1945, and of Nagasaki three days later. Probably around 200,000 persons were killed in the attacks and through radiation poisoning. The vast majority were civilians, including several thousand Korean workers. Twelve U.S. Navy flyers incarcerated in Hiroshima jail were also among the dead. great controversy has always surrounded the bombings. One thing Truman insisted on from the start was that the decision to use the bombs
Starting point is 01:06:15 and the responsibility it entailed was his. To a clergyman who criticized him, Truman responded testily. Nobody is more disturbed over the use of the atomic bombs than I am, but I was greatly disturbed over the unwarranted attacks by the Japanese on Pearl Harbor. Their murder of our prisoners of war, the only language they seem to understand is the one we have been using to bombard them. just because someone does something terrible to you doesn't mean you get to do something terrible to them.
Starting point is 01:06:43 You can get justice, but this was not justice. There's not justice to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians. Assyrian girl, America did nothing wrong but obliterate the populations of Dresden, Nagasaki, and Roshima. God would have judged this nation. Solocat, 1980, bombing of Dresden was also unnecessary. Yeah, that's what I was talking. about earlier, it was another horror. They destroyed another massive civilian population there, completely and utterly. Syrian girl. So with the Japanese bombings, we could have
Starting point is 01:07:18 evacuated our troops and bombed a few islands where Japanese combatants were in place. That would have made our point. Yeah. Wouldn't have had to bomb civilians. Could have bombed the actual military combatants. Defy a tyrant 1776, those two nuke bombings, Japan, was one of the biggest war crimes in history. Yeah, possibly the biggest, at least most psychologically devastating and singular. It's hard to pinpoint another time where a war crime was so instantaneous. That many people were killed all at once. So look at 1980, the Emperor of Japan was allowed to live out his life in freedom and luxury as well.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Hitler in South America, Rome rewarded their puppets for a UN establishing, Job well done. Yeah, I do tend to believe Hitler fled to Argentina. It seems quite likely. Assyrian girl, true Travis, which is what makes propaganda in the public schools so dangerous and reprehensible. Kids can't understand the attacks they're under. They just internalize the lies. It's very, very hard.
Starting point is 01:08:24 When you learn something as a kid, it can be very, very hard to unlearn it as an adult. Once it's past, if it gets in before you develop critical, thinking ability. It is very hard to apply critical thinking to that thing. It's just accepted as fact. Nibiru 2029. Dropping the a bomb of Japan wasn't to end the war. It was to threaten the world. Yeah. As people know, we've got this new toy. We've got this. Don't mess with us. We can do what we want. Bonsie Bear. They had film from a camera inside one of the houses blown apart that miraculously survived, please. L.O.L. Yeah, that doesn't seem plausible. Now that you pointed it out, it seems like something that I obviously should have
Starting point is 01:09:08 questioned. There are a lot of things like that. It's a... Such reasoning will not impress anyone who fails to see how the brutality of the Japanese military could justify deadly retaliation against innocent men, women, and children. Truman doubtless was aware of this. So from time to time, he advanced other pretexts. On August 9, 1945, he stated the world will not... will note that the first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima a military base that was because we wished in this first attack to avoid insofar as possible the killing of
Starting point is 01:09:42 civilians. This however is absurd. Pearl Harbor was a military base. Hiroshima was a city. Inhabited by some 300,000 people which contained military elements. In any case, since the harbor was mined in the U.S. Navy and Air Force
Starting point is 01:09:58 from control of the waters around Japan, whatever troops were stationed in Hiroshima had been effectively neutralized. In other occasions, Truman claimed that Hiroshima was bombed because it was an industrial center, but as noted in the U.S. strategic bombing survey, all major factories in Roshima in Hiroshima were on the periphery of the city and escaped serious damage. The target was the center of the city, that Truman realized the kind of victims the bomb consumed as evident from his comment to his cabinet on August 10th explaining his reluctance to drop a third bomb.
Starting point is 01:10:27 The thought of wiping out another 100,000 people was too horrible, he said. Didn't like the idea of killing all those kids. wiping out another 100,000 people, all those kids. He knew what he had done. He knew what kind of monster it made him. Thus, the rationale for the atomic bombings has come to rest on a single colossal fabrication, which has gained surprising currency that they were necessary in order to save half a million or more American lives. The worst-case scenario for a full-scale invasion of the Japanese home islands was 46,000.
Starting point is 01:11:03 thousand American lives lost. Ridiculously inflated figure of a half million for the potential death toll, nearly twice the total of U.S. dead in all theaters, Second World War, is now routinely repeated in high school and college textbooks, and bandied about by ignorant commentators. Unsurprisingly, the prize for sheer fatuousness on this score goes to President George H.W. Bush, who claimed in 1991 that dropping the bomb spared millions of American lives. Still, Truman's multiple deceptions and self-deceptions are understandable considering the horror,
Starting point is 01:11:32 he unleashed. It was a war criminal. He, when you do something like that, the mind reels. It's easy to understand why you wouldn't want to come to grips with it. To admit
Starting point is 01:11:50 again, like he said, all those kids. The bombings were contend as barbaric and unnecessary by U.S. military officers. By high American military officers, including Eisenhower and MacArthur. View of Admiral William DeLahey, Truman's own chief of staff, was typical.
Starting point is 01:12:10 The use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. My own feeling was that, and being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians for the dark ages. I was not taught to make wars in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children. And that seems to be something that we have given up on in America.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Seems to be something we stopped caring about. Who cares? If women and children die, that's just part of the price we pay. Five months after bombing Nagasaki, we staged an all-star football game in the Fallout Zone. This is from Mother Jones. Forgotten history of the Atomic Bowl.
Starting point is 01:13:07 In New Year's Day, 1946, one of the most surreal and disturbing sporting events in U.S. history was held in the Japanese city of Nagasaki, less than five months after an atomic bomb on August 9th, destroyed half the city and killed at least 75,000 people. The All-Star Football Games staged by the occupying forces of the U.S. military received wide coverage in the American media at the time and was dubbed the Atomic Bowl. Then it became largely forgotten, almost lost to history. I'd never heard about it before this article. As we approach the 80th anniversary of this attack, this game remains an appropriate metaphor for the Nagasaki bomb. The second nuclear weapon dropped on a large Japanese city by the United States
Starting point is 01:13:43 at the end of World War II. This horrific bombing in its aftermath has long been overshadowed by the first atomic blast three days earlier at Hiroshima. Late September 1945, shortly after the Japanese surrender, then into the war, tens of thousands of U.S. army troops and Marines landed near Nagasaki in southern Japan. They found the city decimated. The bomb had exploded a mile off target over a suburb where 15,000 Catholics had lived.
Starting point is 01:14:08 With countless survivors injured or suffering from radiation disease, many of the Americans were exposed to lingering and poorly monitored levels of radiation in the ruins. Since the end of hostilities, U.S. commanders had looked for ways to normalize the American occupation of the Pacific and Europe. Military orientation film, our job in Japan, written by Theodore Gaisal, who later became Dr. Zeus, was shown to arriving. One nuke, two new. red-nook, blue-nook. The occupying forces.
Starting point is 01:14:36 It told them their main job was to be ourselves and show that the American way was a pretty good way to live. This included mounting baseball and football games in which U.S. soldiers could compete. Military officials believe this is also a way for servicemen, as one put it, to blow off steam, and impress the locals with the glory of American sports. I'm continually amazed
Starting point is 01:14:57 that America and Japan have such good relations. We nuked them twice. They're the only country that has actually had the nuclear bomb used on them. And somehow, they get along with us just fine. And I wonder if this is just like, well, they did it to us twice. Better stay on their good side. Don't want to upset them.
Starting point is 01:15:26 We know what they're capable of. Fonzie Bear, says Fukushima, anyone? Yeah, Japan has a unfortunate history with radiation. Well, the reason we're talking about this one specifically rather than Fukushima is that the anniversary was yesterday. Yeah. In December, a Marine Commander order that a football game be held in Japan for the Christmas
Starting point is 01:15:51 and New Year's holidays, why did the military choose Nagasaki of all places as a site for this game on a field so close to Ground Zero? No written records documenting the reasons, exist. Additionally, later in 1946, U.S. servicemen helped organize and served as judges for a Miss Adam Bomb beauty pageant in Nagasaki for local women. This is incredibly tasteless. I tend not to, I try not to get too bothered by this sort of thing where people do, say and do tasteless things. People will do that. And if you get bothered, by it, as a general rule, you're just going to waste your time being upset and not accomplish
Starting point is 01:16:36 anything. But this is truly tasteless, and it's hard to believe somebody okayed that. It's hard to believe anyone thought that was something that would be appropriate. Yeah, I know we just nuked you guys twice, but how would you like to compete in the Miss Adam Bomb beauty pageant? How about we play a game of football by the irradiated remains of one of your cities to show you how great American culture is? You know, the culture that destroys, that burns away 200,000 innocent civilians. That culture. How'd you like to see that culture at work? I'm surprised, like I said, that the Japanese don't completely despise us. As Hiroshima marks 80 years since U.S. atomic bombing,
Starting point is 01:17:33 Survivor says nuclear weapons and humanity cannot coexist. Looking out over the skyline of Hiroshima, 96-year-old Junji Sarashina points out places from his childhood. It was my grade school, not too far from here, he tells his granddaughter, showing her around the area. Sarasina was 16 years old and working in an anti-air. aircraft munitions factory when the United States dropped the world's first atomic bomb on Hiroshima on August 6, 1945. When the bomb dropped, I wasn't able to see anything, Saraschina says.
Starting point is 01:18:07 A concrete wall saved Saraschina, but when he emerged from the rubble after the blast, an apocalyptic scene awaited him. That's when I saw 1,000, 2,000 people quietly moving, all wounded, burned, no clothes, no hair, just moving trying to escape the fire, he recalls. He made his way to a red cross station, began to help. I tried to give a sip of water to the first kid, but he was gone, Saras Sheena says. It's hard to imagine how horrifying that must have been for this 16-year-old child. A thousand to 2,000 people had their clothes burned away, their hair burned away, scorched. About 140,000 people died in Hiroshima. Three days later, the U.S. dropped a second atomic bomb over Nagasaki, killing another 70,000.
Starting point is 01:18:56 people. Japan surrendered soon after bringing an end to World War II. Now in the hills outside Aroshima, where rice and buckwheat grow, lives a man who has spent decades of his life campaigning against nuclear weapons. Toshuuki Mimaki was three years old when the bomb exploded, and he still remembers the stench of death. He spent his life campaigning against nuclear weapons. Last year's organization, Nihon Hidankyo, which means survivors of the atomic bombings, won the Nobel Peace Prize, but Mimaki fears that was more than 12,000 nuclear weapons in the world today. The group's activism is more critical than ever.
Starting point is 01:19:30 I want people all over the world to know that nuclear weapons and humanity cannot coexist, Mimaki says. The message was repeated at Hiroshima's Peace Park to commemorate the 80-year mark which both Sarasina and Nimaki attended. His address to Japan's prime minister said that as the only country to have experienced the horror of nuclear devastation war, it is Japan's mission to bring about a world without nuclear weapons. There's a deep concern that the stories of the fewer than 100,000 remaining elderly survivors of the bombings notice, Hebaakusha will fade away with their passing. There's hope that the younger generation will ensure the world never forgets.
Starting point is 01:20:06 From now on, I want to do my part to share their stories of others who don't know. A 15-year-old student, Minami Sato, said. The nuclear bombs are a very, it's a very, very, scary concept. And the fact that America did this, this is, again, in my opinion, truly where we threw our morals out the window. The decision to annihilate 200,000 civilians, just callously, really shows you where we get our modern day policy of engagement from. It really shows you how we can so unfeelingly support what's happening with Israel in Gaza. And of course, Israel has the Sampson option, with their stolen nuclear technology.
Starting point is 01:21:13 They decided that, well, you know, if we're going to lose, if it seems like we're not going to win a war, things might go bad for us, we'll just irradiate, we'll nuke the entire surrounding area. We'll make it so everyone loses. the greatest ally. Seems like they learned something from us, at least. North American House Hippo. Those that may not know, Roku has a Rumble app
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Starting point is 01:22:05 uh we've got a comment from dad yet trump threatens russia sending nuclear subs after a politician insulted him yes we covered that article or those articles the other day medvedev compared him to sleepy joe used his own words against him and he took that very poorly. So we decided, you know what, this calls for a potential nuclear response. We're going to send nuclear submarines over there, and you better watch out. He's an utter fool. He's a complete, an utter fool.
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Starting point is 01:24:56 We are also being on there. Assyrian girl says before the COVID jab, those bombings were the greatest crime against humanity since the beginning of recorded history. I agree. It's hard to believe that the COVID jab may be even more horrific, that it may have killed more, that it almost definitely has,
Starting point is 01:25:20 and that the effects of it may be more long-lasting, more horrifying. The impact of it is harder to, it's not as psychologically impactful. You don't have the big flash. You don't have the leftover shadows on the ground. So it's hard for people to internalize it. Torinator, thank you very much. Appreciate the tip. Jason Bermas talked about the nuclear test cameras
Starting point is 01:25:48 and said they were protected in thick metal cages or something along those lines. He said he's seen video that covers it, but I haven't seen it yet. Well, maybe I'll do some research into that if I get time. I don't have much time anymore with our son and all the work that goes on. But maybe if I get a chance. We're going to take a quick break, and then we will be... They did have bunkers that could survive that sort of thing. So with these, you know, heavy several inches of lead shielding
Starting point is 01:26:18 and the cameras themselves underground with a bunch of mirrors to do it. I could potentially see it being possible. I have to look into it. Yeah, it's definitely worth looking into. I've seen some other comments from people discussing this in chat. I stopped putting them up because I don't really know anything about this. I'll definitely look into it, though. I'm going to need to do some research.
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Starting point is 01:33:10 Welcome back, folks. We'll be joined with Tony over in here a minute. we are having some slight technical difficulties. Our internet has been very unstable recently, and we are dealing with that. And of course, the AC is still out in the studio. My dad pointed out that we went through the coldest months of the year with no heat, and now it's the hottest months of the year, and we've got no AC. I was actually not here for being out of heat.
Starting point is 01:33:41 my wife and I were down in Texas visiting her family, so we didn't experience that. We're waiting for Tony to reconnect. We've got some comments. Niburu, 2029, the football game was on an experiment using the military to test the radiation effects on humans months after the event. And later, the pageant was to test for shedding levels. Very interesting. I can definitely see that. The military is not above testing on their own soldiers.
Starting point is 01:34:09 Nibiru 2029. and Truman ordered all Pacific U.S. naval ships be anchored in Hawaii shortly before the Pearl Harbor attack. Yeah. They were desperately looking for a justification to join the war. And there is a lot of evidence and that they did this on purpose to make sure that they had justification. They could jump in. KW. 68 FDR pushed Japan for over a year prior to Pearl Harbor. Not a just war, but they never are.
Starting point is 01:34:38 That is very true. Don't frag me, bro. Naval intelligence had already cracked the Japanese codes and knew the attack was coming. Two weeks prior, no aircraft carriers getting hit was a strategic move. Pearl Harbor was used and encouraged as an event. The powers that be expected to change public opinion in the USA to enter the war. Yeah, the ships that got sunk were all battleships and things like that, I believe. maybe, you know, there were some others, but as a general rule, battleships were the
Starting point is 01:35:13 technology of the last war. They weren't going to be what decided this. The aircraft carrier was the new technology, the new ship that was more important, made sure that they kept those intact. Fonzie Bear responding to, don't frag me. There were more Americans against World War II than Vietnam. Pearl Harbor was an emotional trigger. Yeah, World War I was still pretty fresh in people's minds. They didn't want to be involved in another land war in Europe. They did, they were very dead set against it, so they needed a huge catalyzing moment to be able to get people on board with it. Dougalug, Nagasaki was a heavily Christian community from what I've heard. Wouldn't surprise me if people in charge chose it because of that reason, wanted to, they like killing Christians
Starting point is 01:36:02 when they can. They really... Yeah, I've heard it was the Christian capital of Japan. Yeah, and when these people get a chance to kill Christians, they will jump at it. While we're waiting for Tony to reconnect, I want to briefly say thank you for Love of the Road. I meant to show this yesterday, but I got distracted. This is a tie he sent in. I wanted to show it when we were talking about the Confederate statues yesterday, but this is a tie from For Love of the Road. It's got Nathan Bedford Forrest on it. Nathan Bedford Forrest was a very, very interesting individual Confederate General.
Starting point is 01:36:46 He was a singular, singular man. He had a very interesting life. He, I believe, pioneered the use of shotguns during cavalry charges. he was a remarkably effective general and one of the few that never surrendered after the War of Northern aggression either later in his life he also spent time going around to black churches and trying to heal the wrist and divide from what I've read it was a very interesting individual, someone who had a very
Starting point is 01:37:30 diverse life when it comes to the things he did. So I want to say thank you for Love of the Road for sending that in. Maybe I'll wear that once the AC has started working again. And that'll appease the people
Starting point is 01:37:46 like Khan think who demand I wear a tie. Con is the biggest supporter of the tie in this chat. Yona and Iwoody, three times as many died during the bombing of Tokyo, the fire bombing of Tokyo. America has a long history of excessive civilian casualties. World War II. We did that many, many times. The fire bombing of Tokyo and the nuclear bombs as well.
Starting point is 01:38:19 Well, like I said, we are waiting for Tony to reconnect. We have been having some issues with the Internet today. And we are currently trying to work through them. Let's see. Let's take a look at what's going on with Israel while we wait for Tony to rejoin. We got Trump admin partially walks back plan to deny disaster aid to cities that boycott Israel. We saw this happen the other day.
Starting point is 01:38:54 and people immediately freaked out oh actually Tony is ready so let's bring him on Tony how are you doing can you hear me I hear you loud and clear sir it's good to see you good to see you too fantastic yes the delay is gone you're coming through loud and clear no more uh robotic garbling on the feed so uh joining us now is Tony Arden
Starting point is 01:39:21 you can find him at Wisewolf gold and you can go to david knight dot gold as well so thank you for joining us tony is there anything specific on your radar this week yeah i'm glad that the robot garbling is gone no singularity yet Travis i've not merged with machine they haven't gotten you i like the uh i like where we are in the culture uh not really but i i think it's interesting that we see the uh the firing of the the statistician of the the statistician It gives out the numbers on jobs. I thought that was interesting in the last week.
Starting point is 01:40:00 Trump doesn't like the numbers, so the messenger gets executed. And I find that to be... What's that? Oh, nothing. I find that to be just about the most apropos moment in the last 10 days or so when it comes to finance. Because we don't like the numbers,
Starting point is 01:40:22 we just get rid of the person who told you that. Like, a lot of people want to hear a certain narrative, and that's hard to do in our business, isn't it? We don't always give the news people want to hear. But I think that the trends, certainly the macro trends are what to continue to watch. All this stuff in the internal politics, the United States is absolutely sad. But the macro issues, I think that change is happening so rapidly. It's hard to keep up with, actually.
Starting point is 01:40:47 There's a lot going on with the accumulation of gold. And I think the cross-border payment issues, with bricks. I think that's going to have massive implications on whether the United States can even implement sanctions or have any, project any sort of financial power anymore. As a matter of fact, the Russian finance minister, I believe, came out this last week and just basically said the United States is having a hard time coming to grips with the fact that it cannot project or wield financial power like it used to, and it's weighing. Yeah, we see the decline of the American.
Starting point is 01:41:24 empire everywhere. Across the board, we have silver nearing $40 right now. We have an article from Zero Hedge saying is $50 next. I'd like to get your take on that because as you've been pointing out, silver has kind of been lagging behind. It's, you know, it's valuable. It's used in all these different things. And, you know, gold takes off like a rocket. But silver has, you know, it's been more stable, but it's slowly starting to creep up. Do you think it'll hit 50? I certainly
Starting point is 01:42:01 do, and then beyond. I think we're due for an all-time high. It's only been 45 years. I think it's time for a new ATH. Gold had, what, 30-some-odd all-time highs in the last 18 months. And it may be more. I could be
Starting point is 01:42:17 off on that, because it was happening, I remember talking to your dad, almost weekly. There'd be a new all-time high in gold. And that's because gold has had a place out front as a monetary metal, Travis, and it has, I mean, that's what you think of when you think of the gold standard, and you think of central banks and balance sheets, you think of gold. And the issue with silver as a monetary metal has so many other uses. It's taken a backseat after the U.S. went off the gold standard.
Starting point is 01:42:51 And, of course, we started out taking the silver out. out of our coinage, which starting in 1965 and debasing, the dollars, half dollars, quarters and dimes. So that debasement continued. A lot of governments got rid of the monetary use of silver, and that was the last government to get rid of that was Switzerland in 2002. So after that, there was no monetary uses for silver on the balance sheets for these governments. However, as we talked about in the last year, Russia created a strategic
Starting point is 01:43:23 reserve asset with silver. And I think they're one of the first of many they're going to start doing that. Large corporations are doing that. Of course, we know about JPMorgan Chase and their manipulation and they're the largest private holder of silver in the world. But I think in a failing fiat world where the money supply continues to increase, the debt continues to increase, those governments and central banks and other entities are looking for investment, looking at.
Starting point is 01:43:53 for places to house value. Physical silver for the last 45 years has just not been on the forefront. They've been quietly accumulating. But I think with the tariffs and what happened with that over the last year or so, with even the threat of tariffs, these vaults clearing out in Europe and the repatriation of silver, it messed up a lot of contracts. The price got skewed. I think that's what you're looking at right now.
Starting point is 01:44:23 We're nearing another all-time high for silver. I think once that breaks out and the gold silver ratio resets, I mean, right now it's artificial, Travis. I mean, we can do the math here live on air if you want on the gold silver ratio, but it's not supposed to be, you know, 80 or 90 to one. It's supposed to be somewhere between 10 and 20. And that's just historically. I don't find any evidence that's ever been like this.
Starting point is 01:44:53 in any part of our history. So I think what we're seeing is a march towards a new all-time high and just based off of economic, you know, I think realism. And again, the dollar, based off the last all-time high, you know, $52 and 50 cents an ounce in 1980, we discount that. I mean, we think of that in terms as of today. that would be like $300 today or something like that in purchasing power.
Starting point is 01:45:27 So the silver's got a long way to go before it revaluates. I think we're going to start seeing, and there could be pullbacks and sell-offs, Travis. There always is. There's always profit taking. But I think that we're starting to see silver have its day. It's finally coming around all these years and all the silver bugs and everybody that's been predicting silver have as a breakout. I think it's finally going to do that. And then I think this time it sticks.
Starting point is 01:45:54 Yeah. It's been a long time coming. Like you said, it's been over three decades since it's all time. Was it 45 years, you said, since then? Which is an end. It's 45 years. 45 years, which, again, points to something being a little bit screwy with the markets, but they can't keep it depressed forever.
Starting point is 01:46:19 You got a comment here from Pezavante. says the U.S. debt clock is at $37 trillion in counting. We actually talked about a story the other day where they pointed out that when you take into account the way, the screwy way the U.S. government actually counts debt, it's more like $151 trillion. Because they don't count debt if they don't have an established plan or way to pay it back, something along those lines.
Starting point is 01:46:42 So as long as they're not planning on it, they don't have a way allocated. They don't count it yet. And so as if things weren't bad enough with 37 trillion dollars worth, it's actually closer to 151 trillion, which, I mean, that speaks to me to the fact that they are genuinely going to move us towards a stable coin or a central CBDC of some kind. Because $137 trillion is, it's not possible to pay back. That's too much as is. But when you look at $151 trillion, that is you could seize the assets of every. single billionaire on the planet, every millionaire, and I don't think you'd make a dent in it.
Starting point is 01:47:23 I don't think you would be able to pay that off in the slightest. We have reached a level of debt that is inconceivable, really. It is not, it's not something anyone can fully even grasp. And so the central... Please go ahead. No, you go. No, I was going to say that the way I would describe the current world financial system is terminal. you look at the debt to GDP ratios worldwide or just look at the worldwide debt public and private it's like 350 trillion or some odd and then if you look at and try to find what is the what's the what are the assets in the world different programs will tell you different things it's like 400 or 500 trillion or whatever I don't believe those numbers but we're certainly at a tipping point Travis where the United States and especially the fiat currency post breton
Starting point is 01:48:16 Woods system is dying or dead or we're just a you know this is post-mortem at this point i mean it's the dollar's on hospice care and they're going to replace it with something and you're right about stable coins i just read uh a post about it's like 256 billion dollars in uh dollar back stable coins at this point it's just the beginning of stable coins and look for gold back stable coins and other things. The whole system has to be, and they tell you this, it has to be a great reset. And so what you need to be paying attention to is these central banks and the players that are accumulating hard assets, and that's gold or silver, other commodities, copper, these things, I mean, the strategic reserve balances of these nations, that's what you
Starting point is 01:49:10 be looking for because everything I believe is going to be reset into something else. And because they can't continue just printing more. And you can do it for a long, long time, but eventually you just have this tipping point. When I think that there's a lot of economists that believe it's 130% of debt to GDP is some sort of like it's just a diminishing returns and you can no longer inflate the bubbles and you just have this, you start implementing austerity measures and cutbacks. So we're going to see a lot of that happening. So right now, I think, is an accumulation. fay and we're up you know year over year continuing to see central banks buying gold and that's that's driving a lot of the gold price but i think we're also seeing the gold price reset based off of
Starting point is 01:49:57 reality and like what you know figuring out that the currency de jure of the dollar is not really uh really uh strong it's not a strong dollar it's fake go yeah the uh as you said you can only deny reality for so long, no matter who the players are, no matter how much influence they have, eventually, you know, the truth comes back to bite you. It comes home to roost. And that's what their account. You would think, you know, they've made a lot of money. But when it comes down to what they really, really want is control. And the stable coins give them that. It allows them, as we've talked about before, the ability to just turn off all your money to make it evaporate. You're not going to be able to keep, you know, a stable coin in your mattress, hold on to it.
Starting point is 01:50:44 If they dislike you, if they decide that you've said something that they don't appreciate or, you know, whatever. For any reason at all, maybe a glitch happens in the system. The AI automation thing decides, oh, well, it confuses you with someone else or hallucinates that you're, you know, a terrorist of some kind and deletes your entire savings account. This is what they're really aiming for. I've got a comment from David Knight says Trump's punishing. sanctions on India will actually strengthen bricks. These sanctions are, they're not going to make us better friends with India. They're not going to, it's not going to bring them back to us.
Starting point is 01:51:21 This is going to drive them into the arms of the BRICS nations. The thing that I found interesting was that he was talking about, or the headlines I saw, we're talking about the fact that India buys a lot of Russian military surplus, you know, equipment, whether it's jets or tanks or things like that or weapons. buy them from Russia. And so it makes me wonder if the military industrial complex is sitting there thinking, hey, how come Russia is the one that gets to sell them all this stuff? We've got a lot of old surplus that we'd like to get rid of. You know, America is going to be buying new toys. Maybe we can get those few billion Indians over there to buy ours, which I could definitely
Starting point is 01:52:00 see. I can imagine that they're looking at it going, I would like some of that Indian money myself. But India, the world is changing. And the BRICS nations, again, they don't have to live in fear of the American economic hegemony like they used to. That's exactly right, Travis. I mean, the bricks are emerging. And I don't think that it's because they want to have a competing currency with the dollar or anything. I think they just want to be free of the Western dollar hegemony. I think they want to be free of the threat of sanctions. I think they want to have their own systems. And that's cross-border payments and other things so they can have trade. And we saw that really kick off with the sanctions placed on Russia after the invasion of Ukraine
Starting point is 01:52:52 and what happened with that. And I think his governments are watching this going, wow, OK, NATO wanted this to happen. They goaded it into happening. They've been pressing it for years and years. Finally, they get the invasion. They want. Then they put the sanctions on Russia. because they want that enemy and it didn't work because the russians started trading directly you know for you know gold for oil and things like that with the chinese or the indians and i think that's looking at india we you know a few years ago it looked like it was a certainty we're going to have uh india in our column as far as a trading partner and other things we don't make good deals anymore and we're not being we're not we're not attractive here we're not we're not
Starting point is 01:53:34 bringing in new innovation and new factories and new investment we look schizophrenic on the world stage so I don't think this is going it's not going well we're not winning so much that I want to beg for the president to stop because I don't see the winning I just see a lot of uncertainty and I don't understand
Starting point is 01:53:56 you know if you wanted to bring these nations into the fold and like trade with them you know, 100% tariff for not using the dollar is weaponization of the dollar by other means. Tariffs, because you trade with Russia, that's what that's about, by the way. It's about the trading with Russia. It's, you know, it's Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. The bricks already have a trading platform in and of themselves.
Starting point is 01:54:24 So, you know, we're, instead of cutting a better deal or being more attractive to investment or, you know, currency swaps, whatever we're doing. This is the trend is we're just pushing and becoming more isolationist. And this is true isolationism, by the way, that I don't support. I've long since been an economic nationalism. I may abandon that. I may have been wrong. Maybe it doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:54:50 Maybe it worked in a bygone era where you had people with the character to see it through or to implement tariffs and use them. perhaps we don't have that anymore perhaps it just needs to be uh you know a free for all and uh the darwinian survival of the fittest when it comes to business which we really don't have that either we have crony capitalism and socialism for the for the rich and free enterprise for everybody else so i i don't know it's it's very um disturbing to watch because there's there's weaknesses in the economy like i've never seen before it's because it's it's papered over by a facade of Wall Street and, you know, so-called strength in the dollar and other numbers,
Starting point is 01:55:37 but there is some fundamental weaknesses right now. And you go out and you see that just in working class people, because we talk to them every day with my business and Wolfpack and other things and people are just trying to stay ahead of the ball. And it's harder and harder to do so. So I don't understand why we would be making it harder for giant economies to do business with us. Yeah. Like you're talking about interacting with normal people and just seeing the kind of anxiety and the tension everyone is kind of under when me and my wife go and I tend to just interact with people and chat with them just because I'm, I don't know, I feel like everyone is kind of a friend in waiting, you know, anyone you can chat with,
Starting point is 01:56:18 you can make a friend out of. So I'll force myself into conversations with people. And the level of just like, oh, you know, we're, you know, we're surviving, we're making it. You know, there's very little, uh, hope for the future from, in the people that I talk to when we go places. It's always just kind of like a, well, you know, it's a day to day. We're here. We're, we're, uh, you know, we're still alive. It seems to be the general consensus from the people that I meet. And this is, you know, from people in their, you know, 40s, 50s, all the way down to, you know, kids, you know, that are fresh out of high school, you know, 19, 20 years old. It's this general sense of everything, everyone, everywhere knows something is wrong and can feel it. And, you know,
Starting point is 01:57:08 this isn't the America of the past where there's a lot of hope and there's a lot of people out there to think, yeah, you know, the American dream, even if you subscribe to just the, you know, plastic American dream of like, I'm going to have my big house and my two cars and, you know, I'm going to be rich. Like, that's gone. Nobody really feels that still exists. It is a sense of, I really hope I can make enough money to just survive. And, you know, when I was a kid, you know, there was some sense that things were kind of weighted. There was, you know, it was unfair, but it was nothing like this.
Starting point is 01:57:44 There was not this general just malaise and distrust and anxiety about the system we all live under. No, there wasn't. And there always seemed to be that, you know, something was going to get better. You had, you know, under Reagan, it was mourning in America and, you know, after the Jimmy Carter malaise and people didn't, I don't think that, you know, it wasn't taught what happened to us in the 70s, you know, there's that great website. WTF happened in 1971 now with all the stats and the facts and figures, both sociologically and economically, what happened to us after we decoupled from any sort of value in our currency and went to a free-floating fiat currency. I think that's very important. what happened in the 70s spilled into our politics and into our culture. And then they took hold of that a bit and manipulated it very well, I think, in the 80s with the Laffer curve. You know, you had Art Laffer, the economists was with Reagan, and it was trickled down economics.
Starting point is 01:58:45 And, I mean, there is some validity to that, at least in the short term. But we started losing more and more of America's soul with economic, you know, economic treason, if you want to call it that, with the offshoring of jobs and free trade. and other things, and it really took off in the 90s with NAFTA. And there's just been this pouring of America. I mean, it's harder and harder to stay middle class, harder and harder to get ahead. And that's because you have diminishing value in the currency. So you're constantly having to go around and house value for your energy because money is in. Money is house energy.
Starting point is 01:59:21 And so your work is energy, everything that you do. This is kind of philosophical. But it really is true. And I found that to hold water, especially in my business and what I see every day. But yes, you're right. And we get to 2025. And we're in this, I think, end cycle of whatever it was, the experiment in 1971. That's coming to a close.
Starting point is 01:59:43 We're also, you know, and your dad has been a great teacher on this about the fourth turning and cyclical history. And I think this is that whatever this culmination is, those end of ends, end of the end of institutions that were set in motion 80 years ago, and that's basically Bretton Woods, you know, the financial New World Order there in 1944. So all that's coming to a, you know, a conclusion, there will be a new thing, start to watch the trends. We mentioned earlier, the $256 billion and dollar-backed stable coins. That's something to watch. Look at what BlackRock did with the Bitcoin ETFs. Why did they do that? You know, it's the most successful. successful ETF in history, it's massive inflows.
Starting point is 02:00:29 You got Larry Fink from BlackRock going out and saying that Bitcoin is going to be trading at 700,000. Pay attention to that. There's a reason why they're building that infrastructure. And then quietly, quietly not telling you, there's no PSA on gold and silver accumulation, but that's what governments are doing. That's what central banks are doing. So there's going to be, I think, a record. the sooner or later and most of the regular folk it is so so much of a massive change uh Travis and
Starting point is 02:01:05 you look at the advent of things like AI and I'm so I'm catching up I'm reading some books on it and catching up on because it was just dumped in our lap I mean I'm sure it's been around for decades it's a you know an extension of DARPA or something else that they've had or a breakaway society whatever they've had for a long time and this we're getting like a little taste of it and it's going to fundamentally change everything about society and jobs and the economy uh because if you haven't if you don't understand that at this point it's going to get you're going to get left behind yeah and so this is uh this is going to be a you know an interesting time unfortunately a very stressful time but people i think it's just we're just on the horizon
Starting point is 02:01:54 of that right just on the we're just on the edge and the precipice uh where it just the floodgates open and the change starts to pour in and unfortunately whatever this is um you know from the executive branch isn't helping i agree uh what i've been saying about a i is you know certain people they're going back and forth of it's you know it's going to change everything in certain people saying like oh no it'll never be comp you know they're never going to implement it's not competent it's not this it's not that and i keep saying it just has to be good enough to save them a little bit of money in wherever they want to implement it. Once the cost-benefit analysis works out in their favor, if it saves them money over having a person they're working, it doesn't
Starting point is 02:02:35 matter if they lose a couple customers here and there because of it. They will always take that deal. If Amazon can put robots in there into their warehouses and kick a person out of a job, you know, if they save money, that's what matters. It doesn't matter if they screw up slightly more orders or anything along those lines. It is simply a cost-benefit analysis to them. And once it works out, once it reaches that tipping point where, you know, it's better, no matter how slightly better it is, that's when all hell breaks loose. We've got a few comments here for you, says, Steve Ev says, I'm in Wise Wolf Gold, very happy. I just wish they had a monthly plan that was, say, $65 to $70 per month. I could and would do that. So you've got a request.
Starting point is 02:03:23 Tony, they want, Steve Ebb's wants a $65 to $70 per month plan. Well, you could do, I mean, you could do a wolf cub and a lone wolf, and that would be 85. So you could just do those together. I know what, I know what they don't want to do the two plans. But yeah, maybe we should have something like that. Harder and harder to find metals to fit in there, though, it's like for those dollar amounts, because I've tried to, you know, we can't do gold anymore on the lower tiers.
Starting point is 02:03:52 I used to be able to do a little bit of gold in the warrior at 125. I can't do that much anymore. It's harder to find that fractional gold that I can do that. We do gold backs, but it's still a good idea. We'll see if we can implement that. We also have Torinator. Thank you for the tip, Torinator, really to appreciate it. He says, for the nukes or fake crowd, I'd like to hear Tony's take again.
Starting point is 02:04:13 Before you came on, we were talking about the 80th anniversary of Hiroshima and the horror of what we did to the Japanese. and so I know some people out there believe nukes are fake so what's your take on that Tony what's what's your take on nuclear weapons well let's see my grandfather nick davis he was he was the vice president of a weapons division at texas instruments i've talked to your your dad about this and we talked about it on air he was part of the hydrogen bomb experiments in the early 1950s while he was a young Marine and he wrote he wrote me letters about this we talked about it extensively throughout his life he lost his life to cancer eventually because of the
Starting point is 02:05:04 exposure of radiation and the hydrogen bombs I've told the story on air before but he he mentioned it he had no gear they would put him in him in his squad they take him out in places like the desert in Nevada or whatever they were they were testing and they would detonate the bond they tell him to put his arm over his eyes and he said he could see the bones in his arm because of the blast and eventually he had to have his his right leg removed at the hip because he had cancer in his hip and they had to take it off I was a little boy when I went to go visit him in the hospital for all his cancer surgeries and but he was a brilliant man And I look back and I think about his life and, you know, all the things that he went through.
Starting point is 02:05:51 He was a cold warrior. He died right before I was deployed to Iraq in 2003. So when I see people say that nukes aren't real, and that comes out of the flat earth stuff, I don't know why that has to, I don't know, where they came up with. I'm sure somebody's chuckling in a basement of the NSA somewhere. Every time they release one of these things that you're supposed to. believe because like you know you look at alternative media and what it's turning into it's like well nothing's real nothing matters and it's nihilism you know if you don't know history then
Starting point is 02:06:27 it's what did voltaire say um those who can make you believe absurdities can have you commit atrocities you have to be careful when you redo history that things never happen or don't exist or there you know there's all these beliefs and things that i think that are just total nonsense. That's one of them. So, you know, you can get mad at me all you want. I literally talked to my grand. He wasn't, he wasn't an actor. He didn't make it up. You know, he was part of a, I think, a very danger. I mean, what, how do you explain Oppenheimer? You know, do you, are these all actors? Did everybody just make everything up? So I find that just to be dangerous. And, you know, I'm sure I'll get some heat for it. But
Starting point is 02:07:15 None of those people like me anyway. I'm never, I'm never, uh, fringe enough for them, even though, I don't know, I go on some pretty, you know, I go into some deep rabbit holes with stuff, but, uh, never fringe enough for, for those captured in the fulcrum of whatever Cy War operative put that in their head. Yeah, I've, uh, I've, I've had people get angry at me because just like, they'll say the earth is flat and I'll say like, uh, I don't believe that, but if you want to believe the earth is flat, you know, I've, that's fine. I, you're allowed to. I don't see anything, you know, wrong with that if you want to. But they'll get very, very mad at me for not believing with them.
Starting point is 02:07:54 And it's interesting. The thing that always gets me is just like, like there are certain, like there are lies the the government tells that I can understand. Like the lie about 9-11. I can understand why they lie about that. I can lie, I can understand why they would lie about wanting to go to the moon. You know, they're trying to defeat Russia in this. It's a very, you know, you know, bankrupt Russia. They say they get to the moon first. They get to win the optics war. you know, I can understand why they would lie about WMDs and going into Iraq. What do they gain by lying about the earth being flat?
Starting point is 02:08:20 And I've never heard a, at least satisfactory answer on my end to that. Again, if someone believes the earth is flat, that's, you're allowed to. I've just never heard evidence that was fully convincing for me. Or lying about nukes. Think about this. If you don't know history, then that kind of makes sense. But if you go back to, I mean, your dad's talked about H.G. Wells. You know, H.G. Wells went to his grave thinking that mankind was doomed, you know, like he was on the precipice of us obtaining nuclear weapons.
Starting point is 02:08:50 And before that, though, and he wrote that book, Things to Come, that was all about, people were afraid of a cataclysmic war between nations. This is before nuclear weapons. You could, you could still scare people. Like, the whole logic that there's nooks, like there is nooks, and they use them to, like, keep you corralled or, like, sort of damocles well actually they've kept somewhat of the peace in a very ironic way we probably would have had more kinetic nation nation to nation warfare over the past 70 plus years had there not been nukes and i don't and i'm for zero nuclear weapons just like ronald regan was i mean i i i don't i want zero nukes i don't think that they're they serve a purpose other than fear and i think they
Starting point is 02:09:40 do create fear. But if you don't know history, people were afraid of, you know, cataclysms and Armageddon throughout history, you know, even World War I. And you go back and William Butler Gates, you know, wrote this, that poem, The Second Coming, you know, slouching towards Bethlehem, you know, it's like this was, they believed this was like the coming of Armageddon and the end of time, end of days. So it's before nukes. I think you can get a lot accomplished just through standard regular fear. You don't need to create a hobboblin. I agree. We've got a few comments here. I know we're a bit over time or you get to run through these comments real fast. Sure, go ahead. Don't frag me, bro, says Bricks is a bunch of commies and people
Starting point is 02:10:24 actually think it be a good deal. Fonzie Bear response says, Bricks is the world's answer to the U.S. hegemony. It's like, yeah, they're all a bunch of, you know, shady communist nations. But when they think they can get a better deal working with each other than with the United States, you know you have a problem. When these notoriously shifty, untrustworthy countries look at each other and go, yeah, we can probably work together on something if it means getting away from the United States,
Starting point is 02:10:50 that's a signal of some kind. Well, we've done this to ourselves. And we've made ourselves we've isolated through our sanctions and the bullying and everything else, the coercion,
Starting point is 02:11:06 twisting arms. It's inevitable that this happens. And this is just happening. It's happened in foreign policy, and now it's happening in the economic policy. And so, yeah, I mean, this is all, at the end of the day, the future is in assets and hard assets. And who controls that? It's rare earth minerals. It's going to be gold. It's silver. It's copper. Copper, really, I mean, having a massive gain right now because it's the glue of civilization. So these things, you know, who, controls the the commodities and the routes to those and and the ability to trade back and forth will will have a much better advantage in this century and the United States has just isolated itself and not been competitive and it will have a consequence yeah and of course we've seen China with things like the Belt and Road initiative they have made it their mission to extract as much and gain access to as many rare earth minerals as they can in places like Africa that has been sort of
Starting point is 02:12:14 their guiding light in these areas where you know all right you know we're going to give you this and then when you can't pay it means we get all your natural resources they have been very very keen on making sure they have access to those they have not put all their eggs in one basket nights of the storm says money is stored labor done in advance inflation is a tax on that stored labor life. Inflation just eats away at whatever you are able to put, whatever you're able to store in the bank. You know, there's-
Starting point is 02:12:45 Yeah, it's insidious. It's funny. In my lifetime, there has never been a savings account that has kept up with inflation or even close to it. Putting money in the bank is just, it's not even worth it anymore. You know, it's just like, why would I do this? If you're putting money in the bank, it is simply asking the government to steal all your value away and it's just you know even as a kid you know they tell like oh wow this is a high
Starting point is 02:13:12 yield interest rate it's you know 1.5 percent or something like you're like what are you talking about even as a kid you're like this doesn't make any sense no don't frag me bro says if anything then it'll be feudal with lords that own and control areas with resources back to turn the millennia into the early 1100s for our current history a wild west feudal system is what he sees coming I agree with that Yeah the People are getting The world is getting less safe
Starting point is 02:13:41 We see it all over the place Every day there's some kind of story About how dangerous the cities are becoming And It's probably going to be more dangerous Than the Wild West ever was You know Tony we're about 14 minutes over time And I know you've got other stuff going on
Starting point is 02:13:59 Will you be doing your broadcast today Yes, we'll be live on the America Unplugged channel over on Rumble and on my ex at Tony Arterburn. We're going to do the Arterburn radio transmission. So come join if you can. We'd appreciate any David Knight listening. Fantastic. We'll leave a note to ourselves to make sure that we do a raid on the Rumble side once we finish over here. I want to thank you again, Tony, for being on the show.
Starting point is 02:14:24 It's always a pleasure to talk to you and get your insight. We really do appreciate you. we're setting up david knight dot gold as well so again folks tony ardeburn david knight dot gold if you want to start accumulating gold or silver go check him out on x at tony ardeburn and of course america unplugged on rumble we'll be passing the viewers over once the show finishes but you can also just head on over on your own time and check out the videos he's got there as well so thank you tony thank you travis good seeing you good to see you too we will take a quick break and we will be right back folks stay with us
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Starting point is 02:16:15 Liberty, it's your move. And now, the David Knight Show. Welcome back, folks. pleasure to talk with Tony. He's always makes for a fun conversation. And I just want to point out that the interview with Chuck Baldwin is coming up in just a few minutes. So stick around for that. It's about, it's about, about 40 minutes long. So I've got about two minutes, three minutes before I've got to jump out of here. I wanted to say, I forgot to mention this when I held up the tie earlier. Again, thank you to For Love of the road for the Nathan Bedford Forrest tie.
Starting point is 02:17:17 For Love of the Road is actually a descendant of Nathan Bedford Forrest, which is very, very cool. Nathan Bedford Forrest, as I said, was a very, very interesting man, led a very interesting life, did many things, and was a brilliant tactician in general, was just all around, incredible, uh, general intellect, um, just, fascinating fellow and I remember reading quite a few books about him as a kid. I can't retain any of that information now. It's been 20 years almost, but I have to find them and reread them. But I want to thank you all for tuning in today. It has been a pleasure to be here with you. As I said, my dad did an interview with Pastor Chuck Baldwin, which will be airing here soon. So if you'd like to support the show, If you like to support these interviews and things like that,
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Starting point is 02:19:27 Also, Chuck Baldwin Live.com. Thank you for joining us, sir. David, it's great to be with you. Thank you. It's been a long time since we've talked because of timing and scheduling and things like that. You were only able to do interviews in the afternoon. I wasn't able to do that at InfoWars, but we're able to do that here. So I wanted to get you back on with what is happening now.
Starting point is 02:19:51 You've got a book that you're selling at your website. We'll get into that in a little bit. But last time I interviewed you, we talked about another book that you and your son had done, Romans 13. And it seems like people did not understand Romans 13, or I don't think that we would have gone through what we went through in 2020 with locked down churches and all the rest of stuff. I remember when we talked, you know, the standard line was, you do whatever the government says unless they start infringing on your religious freedom. And I said at the time, I don't believe that they're going to stand up for their religious
Starting point is 02:20:32 freedom if they take that tact. And, of course, we saw when the lockdown happened under Trump that they didn't. Tell us a little bit about your opinion about what happened with that and the aftermath of it. Well, I think what we saw was exactly the open demonstration of what you and I had discussed. That is that the false interpretation of Romans 13, and you alluded to the book that my attorney-son and I wrote, Romans 13, the true meaning of submission. And we took all of the verses in, well, not all, but the vast majority of the verses in both Testaments, old and new, to show that nowhere does God command his people to submit to evil authority. And, you know, that doctrine of submission to civil authority per the first couple of verses of Romans Chapter 13 has made sheepy servants of the state,
Starting point is 02:21:39 out of what should have been and once were courageous, bold men of God, unafraid to speak truth to power, and to resist the attempts of those in authority to make slaves out of God's people. I agree. We are servants to only one, and that's Jesus Christ. That's right. So I think that the doctrine, the false doctrine of Romans 13, as it has been taught in the not a part of the 20th century
Starting point is 02:22:11 and then the 21st century has produced exactly everything that we saw demonstrated during the COVID tyranny and I think the evidence of that still continues today but you know before you know it was always about something that they consider to be non-biblical you know like if you are talking about abortion if you are talking about
Starting point is 02:22:35 the intrusion of our Fourth Amendment liberties and invasion of our privacy and the Second Amendment and all of these, these issues, constitutional issues, these Romans 13 preachers and Christians would say, well, you know, God's called me to preach the gospel, and I'm not going to preach, I'm not going to get involved in all these, quote, political things. And when they tell me I can't preach the gospel, then I'll show, you know, some resistance. and they would poohue any attempt to stand for basic fundamental God-given liberties, and they used Romans 13 as a cop-out. Well, then COVID came along, and guess what?
Starting point is 02:23:19 They said, you can't meet in your church services. You can't preach. You can't assemble. You can't observe your resurrection day services. You can't see. He has observed the birth of Christ. Yeah. I mean, all these are, you know, these are not constitutional issues.
Starting point is 02:23:42 These are, you know, basic fundamental biblical issues. Mm-hmm. And pastors just rolled over. Yeah. Shut their churches, didn't have, you know, their meetings. They shut down their operations entirely. And they prove them that they are truly. nothing more than slaves of the state.
Starting point is 02:24:07 So I think that was a great wake-up call to the condition of the church. I agree. And a big part of that is that they want to, at all cost, avoid any kind of political controversy. You don't do that, and I appreciate that. You speak to what people are living in their daily life, and you say, this is how we think the biblical principles apply here.
Starting point is 02:24:28 And I think that is something sadly missing in most of the church. Now, we have a lot of people, There were a few churches that never closed, and I interviewed some of those pastors. There were some churches that closed for a while, then kind of came to their senses or whatever, and reopened up. And some of them talked about the fact that they got it wrong, that they interpreted that wrong, and they would never do it again. But there were some very big churches that did not go back, even though they opened up and even though they had fights. they never went back and corrected their commentaries or their statements on their website or what they told people about Romans 13.
Starting point is 02:25:09 And I think that's very important, yeah. I mean, we can all make mistakes. We can all make mistakes, but we need to be public about it. And the way I look at it, a lot of the people who shut down for four or five months and then opened up and then got into big fights with the government over it, they just kind of ignored what had happened those first four or five months. I think that's kind of like a pastor who's been caught an adulterous affair, just kind of say, well, let's forget about that.
Starting point is 02:25:33 That will move on, you know. Yeah, it's hard for, I don't know why, but we've reached a point in our history were, I don't know, somehow it's a sign of weakness or something if you acknowledge that you were wrong in what you taught from the pulpit. I mean, I've run into this with the Zionist issue and big, big time. That's, you know, but, you know, for example, there was John MacArthur, who recently passed away, a pastor of a large church in Southern California, and well-known writer and broadcaster. He was a man that, for decades, throughout his career, he was.
Starting point is 02:26:26 impugn pastors around the country who would resist governmental usurpation of their power to intrude upon the freedom of speech or the freedom of religion and so forth on even the freedom of assembly in certain cases. And he would castigate them as being disobedient to Romans 13, and he was one of the most foremost advocates of the false doctrine of Romans 13 in the country, and because of his influence, he impacted a lot of fellow pastors. Then when COVID hit and his church was hit personally there in California, you know how California was about everything. And so he actually reversed his position on that issue,
Starting point is 02:27:28 and he challenged the authority of the state of California to close his church and so forth, and he actually was willing to go to court to fight it. So I admire him for doing that. But to your point, he never won time during all of that period of contest between him in the state of California. He never one time public got up and said, you know, I was wrong in the past. You know, all these other issues that men of God were, you know, were fighting a long time before I fought this issue.
Starting point is 02:28:03 Yeah. You know, they were fighting issues of freedom and faith for a long time, and some of them were paying a very heavy price for resisting. And he never took their side. He always condemned them for violating Romans 13. Now, he's doing the same thing, and he's resisting the, you know, the... I remember when that happened. He shut down from what was at March until about July or whatever, and then they opened up. I think the final straw was when they said, all right, all right, you can get together, but you can't sing. It's like, okay, we're done with this nonsense.
Starting point is 02:28:38 But, like you said, he didn't go back and change his commentaries or anything. And a year later, you had Todd Ford. who is also fairly well known on YouTube and other places and very connected to MacArthur as they were getting ready to roll out the vaccine mandates in September. He said in August, again, you know, the Romans 13 line and he said, and look, John MacArthur says this, this, this, and I played the clip and I said, yeah, but that's not what John McArthur's been doing for the last year. Maybe you need to take a leak of the difference between what he said in his former
Starting point is 02:29:15 commentaries and what he's actually doing today. And I thought that was what Todd Freel said. I call him pinwheel Freel because he said if government tells you wear pinwheels on your head, you wear pinwheels on your head. And it's like, yeah, but you don't have to become a pincushion for a poisonous Kool-Aid injection. That's the insanity of all this stuff. But yeah, I think when I look at it, let me get your take on this. I look at it as from a political sphere, When they become, when they're installed in their office, government employees swear to uphold the Constitution. And so their authority comes from the Constitution, and it comes from their fealty to it. And if they are in rebellion to the Constitution, they don't have any authority.
Starting point is 02:30:05 And I see Romans 13 in the same way that, you know, Romans 13, he talks about authority coming from God. He's established these governments. Well, how do we know if it's a legitimate government? Well, we can take a look at what they're doing. And if what they're doing is in rebellion to God, then they don't have authority. It's just like if they were rebelling against the Constitution. What do you think? Is that a way to think?
Starting point is 02:30:30 Well, yeah, of course. I mean, in our book, we make that very clear that Romans 13 was not giving a blank check to civil authority who run roughshod over the God-given liberties of the people. In fact, that same passage in Romans chapter 13 that talks in the early verses about submitting to the higher power, if you keep reading, and they always stop at verse 2. But when you keep reading it, like, for example, in verse 3, Well, rulers, civil rulers, are not a terror to good works, but to evil.
Starting point is 02:31:19 That's right. Will thou then be afraid the power do that, which is good, that's how prays are the same. For he is the verse, verse four, he is the minister of God to be for good. That's right. So at the same time that Romans 13 tells us to admit to government, it's telling government that government has the responsibility to be good, righteous, and just in their implementation of law. And if they are not good, righteous, and just in their implementation of law, there is no implication in the duty of the Christian to submit to that evil.
Starting point is 02:31:59 I mean, so that's like saying, okay, if the government commands you to do such and such, which is obviously evil, unjust, immoral, etc., you have no moral authority to submit to that. In fact, you have a moral authority to resist that. I agree. So that's a part of the entire passage. So it's a twofold. You know, it's a responsibility on government to be good and righteous and just. And when government is good, righteous and just, then you should have the support of the people.
Starting point is 02:32:36 But when government is not good, righteous, and just, it should not have support of the people. So that is clearly defined in Roman chapter 13 as well, but I just choose to skip over those verses. Yes, yes, I absolutely agree. What we're talking about civil government, we just had the 80th anniversary of Hiroshima. I'm curious to get your take on this, and if you think that fits in, and what we talk about frequently, a just war theory, which was something that's been put out by many Christians trying to restrain the evil of war as much as possible, and trying to restrain the way that it's conducted and the conditions under which it has fought. How do you view Hiroshima?
Starting point is 02:33:27 Oh, I think it was one of the greatest tragedies in U.S. history. I agree. It is a everlasting blight on the reputation of a nation that was supposed to be the city on the hill. The nation that set the standard of good government, honesty in government, righteousness in government, a protector of humanity, a protector of life, a protector of freedom, everything that America was valid on, the goodness of government and the righteousness and the accountability of government to we the people and the restraint on government by the Constitution and the rule of law over the will of man and all these principles upon which America was founded when we dropped those bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima atomic bombs,
Starting point is 02:34:34 By the way, we're the only nation in the history of the world that was ever used in the atomic bomb. What a reputation. And on a civilian target as well. That's the key thing, isn't it? The civilians. And they're done a civilian target. And I think that's the key thing, isn't it? The fact that that, and that was really kind of a hallmark, a turning point, I think, in World War II, of attacking civilians.
Starting point is 02:34:59 And both sides did it. There was a bombing of London. Then they retaliated with Dresden and Hiroshima. Nagasaki, and it's really heinous. It's something that I think Western civilization kind of went straight down the tubes with that, and we haven't recovered since then. No, in fact, I think we're still seeing it being played out today in the genocide in Gaza. Yes, exactly. And the way that the American government is supporting the wanton slaughter, genocide, ethnic cleansing, all of the above, emitted by Israel with America's total support.
Starting point is 02:35:33 We're supplying the weapons, the bombs, the missiles, the munitions, with the intelligence. You know, CIA and the Assad are working hand in hand to implement all of this atrocity. Yes. And, you know, all of that, I think, is just a continuation of what happened at the end of World War II with the dropping of those two of atomic bombs. That's right. We lost our way. It did more than just kill, how?
Starting point is 02:36:03 thousands of innocent civilian Japanese people, it seared the conscience of the American government. That's a good way to put it. Where the American government felt like, well, we have the right. We are morally superior to anyone else in the world. We can define goodness and righteousness as we want to. We are the exceptional nation, and we have the power to do it. And so we, we can do anything we want. And so we are seeing that today in 2025, which is just a continuation of the false war doctrine,
Starting point is 02:36:46 the unjust war doctrine of the end of World War II. I absolutely agree. Yeah, many times the excuse is made by the Pentagon and others that, well, that allowed us to end the war early. But if they had used that against military forces, I think it would have had the same effect. The key thing is that the targeting of civilians, which is what we're seeing in Gaza now,
Starting point is 02:37:10 and the idea that we don't start wars, now we start wars preemptively. And that was, in the beginning of World War II, that was something that was a day of infamy when the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor. Now, of course, we know that FDR stood down and invited that in many different ways. nevertheless for them to initiate war
Starting point is 02:37:33 that has still been everybody understands that there's always an argument as to who began the war we see that argument playing out between Israel and Gaza we see that argument playing out between Russia and Ukraine so everybody understands that that is unjust and what I'm concerned about when I look at what's happening with Israel and with much of this other stuff that Christians are cheering is that even atheists and pagans
Starting point is 02:37:59 understand instinctively the right and wrong about starting wars, the right and wrong about targeting civilians and sustaining this when there's no threat to you. And it is really amazing to me to see Christians who are cheering this type of thing. But of course, that is coming out of what I think is about theology. And you've got a book that addresses that. The incredible Schofield and his book, I think you have on your website. Tell us a little bit about that. Yeah, that is the most thoroughly documented and fully researched biography of Cyrus Goldfield ever written. And when you were talking about what you just said, the whole impetus behind that is Billfield Futurism, also called dispensationalism, also called Christian Zionism. And it was started not by Schofield, but by a man named John Darby, who was a generation in front of Schofield,
Starting point is 02:39:09 but they overlapped in the latter years of Darby's life. And a Darby disciple, by the way, the idea of a rapture, a pre-second coming resurrection of Christian people, that concept was never taught in church history from the time of Jesus all the way up until the mid-1800s yes so for over 1800 years there was never a doctrine called the rapture or just racialism or futurism or call what you will and yet now that is pretty much taken over that's pretty much taken over in terms of American Christianity hasn't oh yeah yeah absolutely dominant, yeah. But the history of it is there was a prophecy conference in Glasgow, Gotland, in, I think the year was 1830.
Starting point is 02:40:08 And there was a woman who had self-identified trans-channeler, Margaret McDonnell, I believe, was her name. And she spoke in this conference, and, you know, this whole trans-chandling stuff, that's, that's, to mine. And she went into a trance on stage, and she started to babble forth this two-stage return of Christ, with the so-called rapture being stage number one. And that was the first time that I can find in my research where in church history, that doctrine was taught. And it wasn't really even taught. It wasn't a pastor getting up and exalding the scriptures. It was this demonic trance channeler that went into a trance and, you know, said that this is what she was shown by the spirits and all this kind of stuff. So the whole beginning of the rapture was
Starting point is 02:41:15 demonic, in my view. Well, anyway, it was picked up by the founder of the Plymouth's brother by the name of John Darby, he became the champion of this doctrine. He had a man that disciples of E.I. Schofield, who was young at the time. And Schofield was a con man. He was a fraud. He was the thief. He spent six months in jail for fraud. He was a deserter of his family. He walked out on his wife. Now we're talking, you know, this is the made 1800s. There was no Social Security. There was no welfare. There were no
Starting point is 02:41:56 benefits. I mean, he just left his two little girls and his wife. He, you know, gave himself a lawyer title. He never went to law school. He never, he was never a lawyer,
Starting point is 02:42:12 but he put a law degree behind his name, and he started working in law. After his so-called conversion and he got on to his religious kick. He gave himself a theological degree that he
Starting point is 02:42:28 never earned. He never went to the college. But, you know, if you look at the Schofield Bible, it'll say Cyrus-Sci, Schofield, D.D., well, that's just a degree that he gave himself. I mean, this man
Starting point is 02:42:44 was a fraud's fraud. He was the con man's con man. I mean, he's you know, he would have made P.T. Barnum jealous. Well, the Wizard of Oz, right? Yeah, and this is the guy that founded what we now know is Christian Zionism or Schofield Futurisms. And the thing that the genius of it, the thing that made it, supposedly, they say, why, how did this sweep the country and become bog, you know, and seminaries and Bible colleges and churches all across the United States?
Starting point is 02:43:19 the genius of it was, I've got to explain this to you just a minute, to help you understand how this became so popular. It didn't become popular because of the doctrine. It didn't become popular because of what was being said in the Bible. Until the time of Scolfield, Bible scholars, you go back into the post-Reformation days like Adam Clark, Alan Barnes and Matthew Henry and John Gill and all the James and Fawson Brown, you name it. All these commentators, whenever they would study the scripture, they would write their
Starting point is 02:44:04 commentaries in a separate book. They would not put their words on the same page as the words of God, because they had such a holy reverence for the words of God. that they felt it would be sacrilege for them to put their words, their commentaries, in the same page as the scripture. So therefore, they would write their books in a separate, and that complete separate volume. So if you wanted to read the Matthew Henry commentaries, for example,
Starting point is 02:44:42 the classic foremost commentary of all time, you would have to have your open Bible on one. side of the desk, and then you're open Matthew Henry commentary on the other side of the desk and look back and forth, and that's how you had to study and learn. So what Schofield did, he ignored that, and he put his comments on the same page as the Bible. So whenever you open the Bible, you had the scripture verses and his commentary on the same page. Well, this was a a breakthrough in that it was such a convenience for people. You didn't have to carry two books around. You know, you had to look back and forth. You could just open the Bible, and you had
Starting point is 02:45:32 the commentary and the Bible on the same page. So it was a marketing tool. Yeah. And we said that today. I walk into a Bible store, and they've got a different, they got a Bible for different professions, let's say, right? You know, or for men or for women or whatever. And they dress up the cover, and they'll have stuff in there about the profession or this or that, and they'll try to tie it into whatever section of the Bible that they're in. But it's all about marketing. All right, right. And if you all got that from Skopold.
Starting point is 02:46:04 He's the one that started that. And that's why it became so popular. It wasn't because of what he wrote. It was because of the marketing tool in the way that the book was published. And, of course, it was financed by Oxford Press. Oxford Press was owned by Zionists. The Zionist agenda was promoted in Schofield's notes. Schofield was an uneducated man.
Starting point is 02:46:30 He never finished any kind of formal education. He was intelligent. He was articulate. He knew how to talk. He knew how to read. He did teach himself and all that kind of thing. But he did not know theology in any shape, manner, form. The only thing he knew was what he was taught by Darby,
Starting point is 02:46:53 and he simply regurgitated the Darbyism, which became a schoolfism. During the time of Darby, he was a contemporary of the great preacher, maybe the greatest Baptist preacher of all time, Charles Burr, London, Neon. And whenever he started hearing the doctrines of Darby and this split, resurrection theory of a priest's second coming rapture and tribute to
Starting point is 02:47:25 some new tribulation and all this stuff Carl Spurgeon publicly repudiated Darbias and he warned the church that if they follow this it was going to lead disaster but when Skolfo came along and
Starting point is 02:47:41 published his Bible that sealed the deal and then the seminaries and the Bible colleges started picking it up and and the pastures started picking it up. And today, 80% of evangelicals buy into Christian Zionism. It's a monster. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:59 Yeah. And, you know, when you look at this, Christ told us that the way we'll know false teachers and false doctrine is by their fruit. And I would say the fruit has been really, really bad of this. And that's one of the things I've told people that said, look, you know, everybody's got their complicated eschatology charts and everything. and it's like let's just take a look at what you're the result of what this teaching is getting you to do it's getting you to cheer the starvation and murder of children and maybe you should go back
Starting point is 02:48:31 and take a second look because your eschatology should not be trumping the obvious principles are laid out in the in the bible for us yeah the the legacy of c s cofield is the genocide in Gaza. Yeah. It really is. The slaughter, everything that is happening, and America's support for it, and let's face it, let's be real. I mean,
Starting point is 02:48:59 there's a lot of reasons why America is supporting this genocide in Gaza. They support anything Israel does. And, of course, we know about the Israel lobby, A-PAC, and
Starting point is 02:49:15 dozens of other lobby groups representing Israel are literally buying the U.S. Congress, members of both parties. I mean, that stranglehold is starting to crack a little bit because of the utter grotesqueness of the slaughter of the innocence in Gaza. Yes, and I think it was, I think that along with the appearance of Ted Cruz on with Tucker Carlson. I've got a lot of issues with Tucker Carlson, but he kind of laid that out. It's just like, what?
Starting point is 02:49:53 Can you explain that? Can you defend that? And of course he couldn't. And I think a lot of people saw that and started scratching their head and saying, wait a minute, maybe there's something really wrong here, and there is. There is something really wrong. Yeah, that wasn't an interview, David. That was a snuff film. That was amazing.
Starting point is 02:50:13 I mean, Tucker just slaughtered. Senator Cruz, maybe it looks like the idiot that he is. But, you know, aside from the stranglehold of the APAC lobby on Congress in the White House, which is massive. I'm not diminishing that at all. I mean, it's ungodly the way our Congress is being bought by a foreign government via the Israel lobby. I mean, it's unconstitutional.
Starting point is 02:50:46 it's illegal, it's a moral, it's an American, it's everything bad in the world, you know, that's happening through APEC and the Israel lobby. Remember when Trump said Israel used to own Congress and he said rightfully so? They do. They do own Congress. Yeah, we know that. They do own Congress. Yeah. But the reason that that's able to be successful, this is my point, is that that couldn't work
Starting point is 02:51:13 if the evangelical churches of the country were not supporting it. I agree. Because they're providing the moral and spiritual cover for this. You know, if the great notable preachers of the day, the ones who have the giant platforms and are speaking to hundreds of thousands of people and have the ear of so many folks in our country,
Starting point is 02:51:42 if they would stand up and preach the truth about Israel, about the new covenant, about, you know, what is right and wrong in the eyes of God under the new covenant, and the truth about biblical Israel, expose a Christian's ironism for the falsehood that it is, and really speak truth to power. They would be able to negate the power of the Israel lobby, and they have the power. to change the course of the country. I'm talking about the pulpits of America, the pastors. This has always been the case. I agree. But because they're providing cover morally and spiritually for what Israel is doing, there's no incentive for anyone to change course.
Starting point is 02:52:31 You know, for the longest time... I really put the blame for this at the feet of the pulpits. I agree. For the longest time, I've looked at a lot of these churches, very left-wing churches that have... will have their rainbow celebrations, you know, where it's basically a worship service for LGBT. And I look at that and it's like, you know, that is, you know, what does a matter with these people?
Starting point is 02:52:53 And people on the right will look at that and just shake their head and say, you know, they have, they're not worshiping Christ. They're worshiping something else that is against Christ. And yet the conservatives do the same thing. We've got a lot of churches like Hage's Church, where it's just basically a work. worship service for a political entity, a foreign government, Israel. And I see that as being an exact correlation to what's happening with the progressive leftist churches and what they're doing with LGBT or with CRT or whatever, you know,
Starting point is 02:53:28 DEI, that type of thing. They have their leftist ideology and they worship it and the right is doing that as well. And as people are trying to speak against abortion, against child mutilation and these other things. We've got people who are looking at the vast majority of Christians who are applauding what's going on in Israel because of their eschatology. And they're shaking their heads and saying, you know, you say that you stand for innocent life, but you don't stand for innocent life at all. And so it's a reproach, it's a hypocrisy that has seen, I've seen Caitlin Johnstone and many people who are not Christians just shaking their heads and saying, you Christians,
Starting point is 02:54:08 what's the matter with you? And I look at it and I think, what are reproachers? it is to the body of Christ, what a reproach it is to the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for them to do this kind of stuff, and everybody sees it. I've seen one essay after another from people who are opposed to this war and saying, what's the matter with these Christians? It reminds me of what happened in Corinth, where Paul was saying, you Christians in this church, you are embracing sexual practices that even the pagans don't embrace. And that's basically what I see happening here. They've got a moral sense of what a justified war is that Christians have surrendered because of their eschatology or whatever reasons.
Starting point is 02:54:49 No, you're exactly right. I have several videos that are making the rounds on social media. A lot of people have picked up these videos and are reposting them, and some of them are reaching hundreds of thousands and even millions of people. And I'm making that very point. I'm saying that what's happening in evangelicalism today is that the pastors who are promoting Christian Zionism and their unreserved support for this godless state of Israel is driving people away from the gospel. Absolutely, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:55:34 We're supposed to be preaching the gospel, reaching people for Christ, the gospel, showing people the love of Christ, showing people the grace of God, doing people that what Jesus did on the cross, you know, has brought us together as one in one body in Christ, neither June or Gentile, bond of free, we're all one in Christ. Everyone is equal at the cross. And yet the doctrine of Christian Zionism is separating people into caste systems, and it's separating people away from the gospel of Christ. And what you're saying is it's making people sick to their stomachs when they see the way that Christian-Sinic pastors are supporting the awful, awful atrocities that are going on every minute of the day over there. And they're seeing the videos of it.
Starting point is 02:56:27 Now, social media, when we're seeing it every day in front of our very eyes, live time, you know. And we are seeing it. and they're looking at the churches, and they're hearing what they're saying, and they're saying themselves that that's Christianity, I don't want it. That's right. And it's a statistical fact that there are more people leaving even evangelical churches today than any time in our nation's history. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 02:56:54 And that started in the year 2000 with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan when Bush launched all that. It started then, but now then it's come to a tsunami. It's a tsunami of people that are leaving churches, and it's driving people away from the gospel. So it's more here at stake than just the secular, more here than just the political. And it's not just... This is also impacting the spiritual fiber and fabric of America. I agree.
Starting point is 02:57:32 And it's not just the people on the outside. And this is something that's been a problem within the church as well. People become so attached to the rapture and the prophecies and all the rest of the stuff that they'll break fellowship with you as a Christian if you disagree with them on this. And it's become the most important thing to them. And you have to say, but wait a minute, the most important thing is the Lord Jesus Christ. You know, he said, you search the scriptures, you think you have eternal life in them. But they testify of me.
Starting point is 02:57:59 That should be your hermeneutic. That should be the view that you approach. text with what does this tell me about Christ and especially even revelation it's the revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ it's not you know what's going to happen to Israel but that's the way it's read you know it's amazing to me but it's a real problem that's why I'd like to I'm going to get your book the incredible Schofield and his book and that's available at your websites and I know that you had to go I think we've gone over the amount of time that you'd allotted here so I'll wrap this up pretty quickly again people can find Liberty Fellowship
Starting point is 02:58:33 mt.com. That's where you can find the book. That's where you can find Pastor Baldwin. And also on Chuck Baldwin Live.com. Thank you so much for joining us. Always interesting and important to talk to you. Thank you so much, sir. Thank you, David, very much. Thank you. Well, that's it for today's show. Thank you for joining us. And if you would like to support us, you can go to David Knight. News, and you can see how you can donate to the program. We no longer have any funding from the corporation for public broadcasting never got a sent from them in the first place but again as we said when we're talking about the loss of public funding for these various entities that if people want to support programs that they like they need to do that on their own and so we
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