The David Knight Show - Thu Episode #2180: America Forgot Why It Rejected Kings

Episode Date: January 15, 2026

00:02:37 — Common Sense and the Crisis of Our TimeKnight marks the 250th anniversary of Thomas Paine’s Common Sense, arguing the question of rule by law versus rule by kings has returned in modern... form. 00:06:34 — No Kings vs. Executive WorshipHe applies Paine’s rejection of monarchy to modern presidential supremacy and Trump’s embrace of personal rule. 00:10:20 — The Third-Term Push and Open LawlessnessKnight condemns talk of a Trump third term as open contempt for constitutional limits and republican government. 00:18:08 — Bureaucratic Rule Without Due ProcessHe explains how unelected agencies replace laws with “rules,” erasing due process and presumption of innocence. 00:24:01 — “My Own Morality” as the Only Check on PowerKnight dissects Trump’s admission that neither law nor Constitution restrains him—only his personal judgment. 00:29:27 — A Constitution Requires Moral PeopleHe cites John Adams to argue constitutional systems collapse when leaders lack virtue, truthfulness, and restraint. 00:35:46 — Gold and Silver Signal the Death of TrustWith Tony Arterburn, Knight frames soaring precious metals as evidence fiat credibility is breaking down under debt and chaos. 01:01:20 — The Debt Is the Elephant Everyone AvoidsKnight argues modern conservatism abandoned serious debt restraint, replacing principle with tribal loyalty. 01:04:29 — Fake Money Makes Unlimited War and Corruption PossibleHe explains how fiat currency enables endless war, spending, and institutional rot without immediate accountability. 01:11:46 — Gaddafi’s Gold Plan Explains His DestructionKnight connects Libya’s regime change to Gaddafi’s attempt to create a gold-backed African currency that threatened fiat dominance. 01:19:29 — ICE Accused of Beating a Teen and Selling His PhoneHe details reporting alleging ICE agents assaulted a minor, confiscated his phone, and later pawned it—illustrating unchecked power at home. 01:38:02 — Law or King: Common Sense ReturnsKnight closes by invoking Paine again, warning America is once more choosing between rule of law and rule by unchecked authority. Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to https://davidknight.gold/ for great deals on physical gold/silver For 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to https://trendsjournal.com/ and enter the code KNIGHT Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.com If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:30 of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act. It's the David Knight Show. As the clock strikes 13, it's the 15th of December, year of our Lord, 2006. Today we're going to begin with the, we missed the common sense anniversary that happened on Saturday, the 250th anniversary of Thomas Payne's common sense. Lot has been said about this being the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence coming up on July 4th. However, you can't have a Declaration of Independence without common sense. And we don't have any common sense left today.
Starting point is 00:01:19 And we're talking about why that is. What was the central theme of common sense? We're going to take a look at that. And we're going to take a look at how far away we are from that. and have we lost the ability to not only critically think, but even to read it? That appears to be the case with upcoming college freshmen. We'll be right back. Stay with us.
Starting point is 00:02:09 And by the way, I didn't mention it at the beginning, but Tony Ardabin is going to be joining us at the bottom of the hour here, just about a half hour. So we're anxious to talk to Tony. So much has been happening. Unbelievable, isn't it? You know, it's the old saying says, you know, sometimes you have years that are compressed into just weeks and that really is the case. And we've had periods of time where really not much has happened,
Starting point is 00:02:33 but that's not the time that we're living in right now. And so the question is, you know, these are the kinds of times that try men's souls, right? The 250th anniversary of Thomas Paine's Common Sense was on January the 10th this last Saturday. We didn't talk about that before. But I think, first of all, it's kind of interesting when you look at how pervasive
Starting point is 00:02:57 that was. At a time when there was no government schooling, people had common sense. They had the ability to think critically. They had the ability to read. And America was full of readers. They grew up reading their Bible because it was a Christian society that was there at the time. This was a situation where the population of all the colonies at that time was only two and a half. It was only two and a million. We've got cities that are far bigger than that right now. Several of them, unfortunately, and they're not really very well run. But there's only two and a half million people in the 13 original colonies. And they printed up 10,000 copies of it. But there was so much demand that within three months, they had sold 120,000 copies in a country of only two and a
Starting point is 00:03:52 half million people. And they didn't just put them on the shelf. They read them. You know, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington read it to his troops for morale purposes. This is why we're fighting. It's very important to understand that. And what was the central theme of it is what we're going to talk about. But before that, I just wanted to compare it to what we have here in the 21st century. If you go back and look at it, if you normalize that to the population, 120,000 copies to 2.5 million people, That's about one copy for every 21 people.
Starting point is 00:04:28 A lot of copies. And so do we have any books that have hit that kind of level? And actually, no. That'd be about 15 million copies in today's American population. We don't have any books that hit anything like that. As a matter of fact, the first Harry Potter book sold over 8 million copies in the first 24 hours here in the United States. It went on to, with cumulative sales in the United States, the first one to sell 11.5 million. Now, they did sell 15 million in the first 24 hours worldwide.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Half of that was in the United States. But we're talking about the population of, you know, that comes down to even fewer per capita if you take it out to the entire world, billions of people. But we're talking about a country of two and a half million people, 120,000 copies of this thing sold. it was a cultural touchstone, right? I mean, this is like Harry Potter, Star Wars, all the rest of the stuff. And isn't it interesting how frivolous our society has become in terms of entertainment?
Starting point is 00:05:34 I mean, we look at something that has that kind of cultural impact. The only thing we can do is movies or things like that. Fiction, fantasy, that's the world that we live in. As a matter of fact, when you look at some of the other titles that even they didn't achieve what Harry Potter did, but that came close to it. You have titles like The Hunger Games or 50 Shades of Grey. Sci-fi, porn, you know, that's the kind of stuff that we consume today. There's not any serious discussions of what's going on.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And he was, as World Magazine says, the original No Kings protester. That's right. That was a real central theme of common. sense. The juxtaposition of rule by a dictator, by a king, versus the rule of law. That was the central issue there. And that is the central issue of our time as well. This is why I keep coming back to it. I don't care what the stated end is. I could agree with the stated end of Trump, not that I necessarily believe that his policies, his tactics in terms of achieving that end, would even work.
Starting point is 00:06:54 But I do see them as being a very, very dangerous precedent they'll be seized by the next person that's out there. Once that power is put in the Oval Office, it's going to stay. And it's going to be used by the next occupant and the one after that and the one after that. That is what is so dangerous about that. And that is the precedent in which we live now. You know, there was so many people that were accused.
Starting point is 00:07:16 in early American history of being kings. We had, that was the accusation that was usually made, that somebody was ambitious. That's what they said about Lincoln and that he wanted to be king. The same thing about Alexander Hamilton. Same thing about Andrew Jackson. He's imperial when he acts like a king, that type of thing. That was a criticism.
Starting point is 00:07:38 And yet now, Trump actually really embraces this. It's just like we talked about the idolatry of Maga. And, whoa, we're not, you know, we're not worshiping him as God. I worship God and he is my president. I really like that. No, you're putting your trust in Donald Trump. That is idolatry. As a matter of fact, this article from World Magazine says, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:06 Thomas Payne got it wrong because his theology wasn't very well informed. I mean, he really wasn't a Christian. He was a later on, he was something of a deist, but not so much even that. And he made some arguments on the Bible. And, of course, one of them is coming from Samuel, where the people come to Samuel and they say, we want a king. And what does God say? He says to Samuel, they haven't rejected you as judge.
Starting point is 00:08:34 They have rejected me. It's because they put their trust in kings, right? One of the reasons why in the 1950s in America, they put in God we trust. We don't trust in government. And yet these people said, we need to have a strong government. That's what's going to do it for us. That's the kind of idolatry that I accuse Maga of. I think we can see it now.
Starting point is 00:08:58 And I think we can see the fact that Trump kids about being a king and a dictator. But he wasn't really joking, was he? He really embraces it, even embraces it in his AI memes that he puts out. It puts on a crown and he drops excrement. on his opponents. It's not a joke. The Namauga people are a joke, quite frankly. So do you want to have the dictates of a king,
Starting point is 00:09:26 or do you want to have the rule of law? You know, for Trump, the law is in his mouth, whatever he says. That's why we call them dictators. Are you going to take dictation from him? Or are we going to use the Constitution? And so, you know, you had a lot of people, that was always the insult.
Starting point is 00:09:45 And that was the fear. When people saw George Washington, he was very impressive as an individual. He carried himself a lot of dignity and things like that. And people were just in awe of him, even as a person. And they were concerned. Many people with the Constitution have we created an office of a king? That has always been the concern. And now that concern has been realized.
Starting point is 00:10:11 But George Washington gave his farewell address when he was 65. I'm going to step down. He did step down. He was only 65. And yet you've got people like Steve Bannon out there trying to activate the base saying, we're going to have a third term for Trump in his 80s, right? And which again is not only violating the tradition that George Washington established, but also violating the law. And the whole aspect of saying that we're going to have Trump for a third term is really just doubling down on this. We don't care what the law says. We're going to do what we want.
Starting point is 00:10:50 You try to stop us. We're going to find some way to get around both the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. That is the Trump administration. That is the enablers and the clowns who follow Trump like Steve Bannon. That is what they trade in. And they are traitors. the very fact that somebody wants to censor your speech, and we just saw this yesterday,
Starting point is 00:11:15 we had the Pentagon under War Pete, decided, you know, he didn't want to have people in the Pentagon as a press corps if they're going to report things that he hasn't okayed first. Right? We don't want to have any independent thought. We don't want to have a free press. We don't want to have free speech. People who want to shut down free speech and the free press
Starting point is 00:11:34 are the people who are admitting that they're criminals, that they've got something. to hide. And they're always hiding behind national security. And so it's not a surprise to see this is something that's coming from the Pentagon. We're going to talk about that in a moment here, but that is where we are right now. And so, as they point out here, he called out Thomas Payne did. He called out not just for resistance against the British government, but for independence from Great Britain entirely because common sense became an instant bestseller. And that is why I say you can't have the Declaration of Independence without common sense.
Starting point is 00:12:18 That is what laid the groundwork for it. That's why it's very important. What we consume as entertainment. And it's why the communist works so hard with Frankfurt School and so forth to make sure that they were going to push their worldview. through movies and entertainment. And so, as I point out in World, they said, Payne did more than complain about particular wrongs that were committed by King George in Parliament.
Starting point is 00:12:48 He articulated a broader political theory. The theory has more similarities to the Declaration of Independence than the Second Continental Congress would produce around six months later. Human beings were created equal endowed with natural rights and formed governments out of pure political state of nature through consent. The governments, the people formed, then operated through representation and were intended to protect the rights of the people. Great Britain, he said, violated the principles of government of the consent and government's
Starting point is 00:13:23 purpose to protect rights. So you see, these are all themes that, you know, Jefferson didn't plagiarize this. this was really the American understanding, even before Thomas Payne. He just was able to distill it and articulate it. And Thomas Jefferson did that as well in the Declaration of Independence. They were on the same page, and they were reading the same books, right? And so they point out the violated consent on multiple levels with a hereditary monarch, also through the parliament's aristocratic House of Lords.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Moreover, it violated rights among other ways by dismissive treatment of the colonists over the previous decade. Sorry if I'm stumbling over this because this print came out somehow for at about six points. It's very, very tiny. It's hard for me to see this. But the bottom line is that, as I said, this is World Magazine. And so they came back and they said, well, we think that he got it wrong in terms of his theology. Thankfully, the founders of the U.S. did not all go along with Payne's arguments. Payne had disdained separation of powers and checks and balances, for instance.
Starting point is 00:14:40 He thought the best government would be a simple one in structure. He said complex institutional interactions would allow corrupt officials to hide the true blame of what was happening. Checks and balances were inherently contradictory to people. pain. And so I disagree with World's assessment. I think that he got it right. I think that we can see now when we look at checks and balances and things like that, we can see that these complicated structures, yes, they were very concerned about consolidation and concentration of power. So they divided the federal government into three parts. And they divided power between the states that created the federal government. And so they don't have any power that hasn't been delegated
Starting point is 00:15:28 to them by the states. There is not, instead of a supremacy clause, the supremacy clause really is a 10th Amendment. 10th Amendment that says that the states created the government. And they only give up certain powers specifically given up in the Constitution. But also, they divided the central government in the three parts, and they divided power into three areas, the federal government, the states, and we the people.
Starting point is 00:15:57 And we talk about the public. that really is the common people. And it really is an amazing thing when we see how national security is used over and over again to keep information away from the common people, from we the people. Privacy is very important. Our government doesn't appreciate privacy for individuals. It claims that public servants, that public government should be private for them. Everything they do is private.
Starting point is 00:16:25 That is an oxymoron, a contradiction in terms. if it is something that is part of the government, it should be open and available to the common people, to the public. Everything they should do, they do, should be public. We don't need to know where you stashed your military, but we do need to know where all the money was spent and how it was spent, what is being used for. So this whole idea of national security,
Starting point is 00:16:55 this Cold War paranoia has been used as a cloak to shield all of their lawless unconstitutional actions from us. And it's time we say that's enough. But I agree with them. You know, when you look at what we have in Washington now. You have a situation where it's not just between the Republicans and Democrats who are saying, well, I didn't do it. They did it.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Or they did it first. Or what about what they did? You know, the what aboutism? That's always an alibi for them, isn't it? Well, you know, yeah, Trump is acting like a lawless dictator. But look at Biden and look at Obama. It's like, that's not an excuse. We don't want to accept that as a precedent.
Starting point is 00:17:35 But then also within government, you have Congress has created the bureaucracies purely for the purpose of not directly being involved. I mean, they create these bureaucracies. They hand the power over to them. They abdicate what they should be doing. And then when the bureaucracies do the wrong thing, they have an opportunity if people get really, upset about. They have the opportunity to come in and pretend that they're your savior from the beast
Starting point is 00:18:02 that they created because they didn't want to have the responsibility. They didn't want to create laws. And so we have rules that are created by unelected bureaucrats. And then they come back and say, well, because these are not laws, laws are created by your elected representatives. These are rules created by unelected bureaucrats. So you have no due process rights. Since it's not a law, since it's a rule, you have no presumption of innocence, you get no due process, and you get no protection against excessive and unusual fines and punishments, right? This is the precedent that began with the IRS, and now it's metastasized to every one of these bureaucracies. And so they don't want to have accountability. And they're constantly passing the hot potato over to the other side and pointing
Starting point is 00:18:51 the finger to somebody else. And so the president. President points the finger at Congress and Congress points the finger at the Supreme Court and on and on. They just keep passing the blame around. And so I think pain was right about that. I think even though the idea of trying to divide power, it really hasn't worked very well, has it? Do you see any checks on government power at this point in time? No. Do you see any balance between these branches of government? Do you see any balance? between the state government and the state governments and the federal government they created. No, they've turned that exactly upside down. And we, the people, have no power left whatsoever. No, the Constitution has not worked at all. And so they say, of course, the reading of scripture they put soon, he says, finally, God inherently disapproved of kingship, as Payne claimed,
Starting point is 00:19:51 because the stories of Gideon and of Samuel. Of course, this reading of scripture, says we're old, ignored the passages and judges arguing that the anarchic condition of Israel was because there was no king in the land. Well, yes, but again, it was because they didn't make God the king. That was the real issue. And as Samuel's Israel, God was not the king. And so, and they're asking for a secular king was just a man. manifestation of what was in their hearts. And so we see that, don't we in America? Don't we see it on both the left and the right? We see it in Maga as much as we see it in Antifa. They don't want God.
Starting point is 00:20:40 They want a king. That's what they put their trust in. Now, the people in Maga may say, no, no, we trust in God. And yet what they really trust in and what they really look to for deliverance is politics and particularly to Trump. And so, you know, a man cannot save, you know, a man cannot save us. And the people need to understand they can't serve two masters, right? Who's your master going to be? Well, especially when we look at this divided power, right, there's going to be a legislative, judiciary executive branch. Who's going to be the master? you're not going to have, there was no mechanism, formal mechanism that you could even point to to say, well, they're not really following that power sharing thing, right?
Starting point is 00:21:27 But a person can only serve one master. And so there has been a back and forth, is it going to be Supreme Court supremacy? Or now is it going to be presidential supremacy? It's always been that struggle back and forth. Congress just wants to collect a paycheck. They're out of the running for all of this stuff. Now, will it be the states that are supreme? Or will it be the central government that is supreme?
Starting point is 00:21:53 That was what the Civil War was fought over. And so the Constitution is supposed to be the master. But it's people that are actually going to execute it. And we have people who ignore, people who prevaricate what it has to say. Those are the people that are in office. That's why when you look at things like Mark Levins approach, the Liberty Amendments, any kind of constitutional convention is going to be run by the same people who ignore the Constitution now. They don't pay attention to the Constitution we've got now. So why would
Starting point is 00:22:27 we let people of no character, oath breakers like that? Why would we let them write a new Constitution that they would then be free to ignore as well? It's a futile exercise. But the reality is, is that what is really at the heart of our problems, the same thing that was a problem with Israel when they wanted a king. We have rejected God. Now, the people of colonial times understood the message of Thomas Paine, what they took away from it. It's not what World Magazine took away from it. They look at this and say, well, you know, God is king and we need to have God's, yes, they understood that. And the Christians of colonial America, their slogan was, no king but Jesus, right?
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yes, Jesus is king. God is king. We'll have no others. Today, people look for salvation to secular governments. We're talking about America, Israel, whatever. So while rereading pain, let us exercise the common sense to recognize real kings from false kings, good from poor governments. and I think that they don't quite get it. I don't think there are any good secular kings.
Starting point is 00:23:48 And we want to have the rule of law. That is what good government is. And yet we don't have that, do we? What we have is summarized by this interview with the New York Times of Donald Trump. Here's the audio from it. Do you see any checks on your power on the world stage? Is there anything that could stop you if you wanted to? Yeah, there's one thing.
Starting point is 00:24:08 my own morality, my own mind. It's the only thing that can stop. Not international law. I don't need international law. I'm not looking to her. I don't need international law. I don't need the Constitution. Is there any check on your power?
Starting point is 00:24:26 You wouldn't say the Constitution, right? I said for the longest time, this is a guy who has not only, you know, divorce has become very common, unfortunately, in our society, but this is a guy who not only, divorced his wives, but then he proceeded to publicly humiliate them as much as he could, which is really reprehensible. And he does the same thing with the people that he puts in his cabinets. He flatters them absurdly when he puts them in. Oh, this guy is the best whatever, right? And then when he doesn't like something that they did, he throws them out and he follows them down the road,
Starting point is 00:25:05 pouring scorn on them. Same thing he does. did with his wives, why are we surprised that he would do this? And when we look at his morality, what a joke. What a joke that is. The same guy who just flipped out and flipped a finger at the guy who called him a pedophile protector, the guy hit the truth on the head. As a matter of fact, we'll talk a little bit about that in the aftermath of what's happened to that guy. But you have the Rutherford Institute, John Whitehead, this is picked up on Free Thought Project as well. What tyranny looks like now,
Starting point is 00:25:43 there's not any crowns, there's not any coups, just unchecked power. And that's really what is happening. This is a slow-moving coup, except it's not really moving that slowly. Americans are being trained to accept what would have once been unthinkable.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Law enforcement, that kills without consequence. Presidents who operate above, the law. Wars launched without consent, powers exercised without accountability and without authority. Again, you know, the New York Times saying, you've seen any checks on your power? On the world stage, is there anything that could stop you from doing what you want to do? No, he doesn't see any check on his power. Not with foreign issues, not with domestic issues. He's not going to follow any laws.
Starting point is 00:26:35 He will be a law unto himself. It'll be his morality and his mind. And I would say that those are two zeros right there. In January 1776, says John Whitehead. Thomas Payne published common sense, a pamphlet that gave voice to the discontent of a nation struggling to free itself from a tyrannical ruler, who believed that power flowed from his own will rather than from the consent of the governed. And so the question we have today is, can a people remain free if they place their faith in the virtue of one man?
Starting point is 00:27:13 This is what I've been saying about Maga idolatry all along. You know, it's all just a matter of degrees, right? I mean, they may not literally fall down on their feet and worship Trump, although many of them come very close to that. But it's what they put their trust in, right? You can make an idol out of money because you trust in it. And these people are trusting in Trump and his politics as their salvation. And so John White had said, Trump, when asked about any checks on his power, he didn't point to the Constitution. He didn't point to the courts or Congress or the rule of law as his oath of office and of our Constitutional Republic required.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Instead, he pointed to himself. And I would say there was another notable thing that was missing. Not just the fact that he didn't believe that he was accountable or bound by the Constitution, by courts, by Congress, the rule of law. He doesn't believe that he is bound by God. He's got his own morality. And I can't say that there's much evidence of it when you look at what the man is doing. America's founders believed in faith and morality, as John Adams warned in 17,
Starting point is 00:28:28 1998, avarice, ambition, revenge would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, just like a whale, goes through a net. Now, let me ask you, when you look at the first year of Trump 2.0, and we could go back and include the last year of Trump 1.0, if you want, but when you look at, especially his return, his avarice, and look at how much money he's made, look at all how he has come in, grabbing money. and using the power of government to ingratiate himself at foreign leaders. So the avarice, the ambition, the revenge, isn't that pretty much covering all the basis of Trump's first year of his second term? And yet John Adams said, avarice, ambition, and revenge would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, just like a whale going through a net. Absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:29:28 He said our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other kind of people. That's why we're in such big trouble. Adams was not advocating for a theocracy, rather he was emphasizing that a government of liars, thugs, and thieves will not be bound by constitutional limits. That kind of government will treat these constitutional limits as inconveniences. Doesn't that look like what we've been seeing?
Starting point is 00:29:58 from Trump for the last year. The Trump administration has never been more obvious that were governed by a bunch of liars, thugs, and thieves. A constitutional government survives only when both the people and their leaders are willing to be bound by the compact, by the constitution, by the treaty, whatever you want to call it. And Trump is not willing to do that,
Starting point is 00:30:24 not with the women that he told that he loved. He told us that he loved. America as well. Yeah, that's same type of thing. If our freedoms depend on Trump's self-proclaimed morality, we are in dangerous territory. Because, of course, we haven't seen any evidence of his morality. Over the course of nearly 80 years, Trump has been a serial adulterer, philanderer, liar, a convicted felon. He has cheated, stolen, lied, plundered, pillaged, and enriched himself at the expense of others. He is vengeful, petty, unforgiving, foul-mouthed, and crass.
Starting point is 00:31:04 His associates include felons, rapists, pedophiles, drug traffickers, sex traffickers, and thieves, many of whom he's pardoned. He disrespects the law. He disregards human life. He is ignorant of the Bible, illiterate of the Constitution, takes pleasure in others' pain and misfortune, and is utterly lacking in mercy, forgiveness, or compassion. That's what I just sum it up.
Starting point is 00:31:37 It's a good job from John Whitehead. He said, however, Christian nationalists have tried to whitewash Trump's behavior by wrapping religion in the national flag and urging Americans to submit to the government, to authoritarianism, an appeal that flies in the face of everything the founders risked their lives, to establish. And I've got to say it is anti-Christian as well. This misinterpretation of Romans 13, and we have seen it over and over again. Prime example was a pandemic. Obey your government. Just do
Starting point is 00:32:10 whatever they say. And we keep seeing this. What was the response to the execution of that woman by that ICE agent? Right. Renee Good. Okay. Show your hands. Obey commands. That's it. All these people who keep coming out after saying, don't evaluate, what the government does, don't you dare think about whether or not this cop was doing the right thing or not. No, no, you just obey him or he will kill you. And we hear that same lesson being given to us by many pastors. Obey the government. It doesn't bear the sword in vain. Yeah, it's not for sure. They'll actually use it on you. Well, that was not the message of God. That was not the message of the apostles either or Christ.
Starting point is 00:32:57 You do not obey authority when the authority is evil, when the authority is wrong. It was, Romans 13 was descriptive of a good government. It was not descriptive of a legitimate government. It was not just, oh, yeah, where are we at 1030? I'm sorry, I'm going on and on here. Tony is ready and has been ready for a couple of minutes here. So thank you.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Real quickly before we take a break. Angelo, 1999, when Christ is your king, bullets, bombs, and armies of thugs hold no weight. That's right. It's just a change of location. Change of address. We'll be right back. We're going to connect with Tony here in just a second. Unlike most revolutions, whether people rise against a real economic oppression,
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Starting point is 00:35:12 All right, welcome back, and joining us now is Tony Ardibet. I apologize for losing track of the time. And we haven't lost track of it, Tony, but it might have appear like that to the audience because it's been a while since Tony's been on. He took some time off for the Christmas holidays and things like that to try to get caught up. It's been a chaotic time, of course, in the metals market. Things have been moving incredibly quickly. And I don't know how you do it, Tony. You type the time to come on at all. But it's great to have you back and we're really anxious to talk to you with all the things that have been happening. We're now up over $4,600.
Starting point is 00:35:48 dollars, gold has gone high. We had well over 80 for silver. I don't know what the exact price is. I don't follow this stuff on day-to-day basis, but you do. And it's really crazy times, isn't it? And this last week we just had both of them get a shot in the arm again from Trump because he wants to be the dictator of the dollar. He wants to be the one who's going to set this.
Starting point is 00:36:13 And you have to look at this. And I can understand why the markets and why Wall Street invests. or anything would be scared of this. Just take a look at what he did with tariffs. It doesn't matter what you think about tariffs. It doesn't matter what you think about interest rates. Trump is going to be setting, if he's going to be the one setting interest rates,
Starting point is 00:36:31 they're going to be varying based on what he had for breakfast this morning. It's going to be crazy, right? Well, the uncertainty is certainly there's an underlying driver of these prices that you can go with the traditional market forces, David, as I was saying off air. I think, and I started to notice this in the last quarter of 2025 and towards December, I just said I'm taking the rest of the month off of my shows and appearances. I got to focus on my business because so many people were selling silver because it was
Starting point is 00:37:05 reaching new all-time highs and every week. And, you know, it was something else was happening, new price drive. And so I've seen this, you know, accumulate over the last 30, 40, 45 days. And I'm just convinced now that we're in some sort of fourth dimensional warfare between governments. I think silver is in a key playing role in the currency wars that are going on right now. I remember when Russia put silver as a strategic reserve asset, that story really stuck out with me. And I, you know, I've talked about it on your show. I talked about it my show many times I thought this should get a lot more coverage than it's getting.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I don't think people really understood what that meant. That was the first time that a major government, especially in nuclear power, it's saying we're signaling that this is a monetary asset for us again. And silver used to have that same standing, especially in countries like China in the early 20th century and for centuries before that. And as you pointed out many times, you know, the very word that is used for the Indian currency comes from silver. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:10 That's a rude word. That's right. And I think wasn't that the case with the dollar as well? There was another currency that was that way as well. It was a word for silver. Yeah, the dollar. It was based off a German silver coin with a similar name. T-H-A-L-E-R, right? Yeah, dollar. Yeah. So went from dollar to dollar. So yeah, really, I mean, you know, silver because of the lower value was really kind of the every man's currency that they were passing around. The gold was there as a store of. wealth, of sovereign wealth and that type of thing, which is what we're seeing with the central banks. But we've also seen a massive amount of individual purchasing, you know, the shortage that we talked about before what happened in India. You know, every year they have as part of their religious observations.
Starting point is 00:38:58 They will accumulate wealth or whatever. Typically, they would get gold. But when you guys say, hey, you need to get silver this year. So everybody was buying silver, created a big shortage in terms of distribution. And there's something else happening with silver that I thought was kind of interesting. and that was sent to me by the guy put out three videos yesterday and there were a lot of assertions that were made in it
Starting point is 00:39:20 and it wasn't possible for me to verify what he was saying in terms of commodity trades and amounts. He said this is not anything that's concealed, this is not a theory. These are actual trades that have been made by J.P. Morgan and he said if you look at this, he said he totaled it up on these various exchanges that they were short four point.
Starting point is 00:39:41 2 billion ounces of silver. And so what he was saying was, this is about to go vertical. And I can't verify if that's true. I sent it to you. And I know there was a lot of information there. And he was referring to a lot of things that is very hard for us to get access to. But, you know, what do you think about that? I mean, as you said, it's kind of fourth dimensional warfare that's going on now.
Starting point is 00:40:05 But that's something that we've talked about for years. the role that J.P. Morgan has played in silver is, has a lot of history. There's some shadowy things that have gone on there and some, right, some things that are suspect and criminal. I mean, they've been convicted of, of shorting the silver market of, of the fraud, really. I mean, if you, if you want to put it in that way, and they had paid a steep fine for it. And I don't, I want to say it was more than once. And if you go, if you go into their history, they're the large, of holder of physical silver, supposedly, in the world, private holder, other than governments. And that's been that way for a very long time. You got to remember, you go back to the 70s and
Starting point is 00:40:50 you had the Hunt family and they cornered the silver market. And I coined the term deep stated. I thought that they, they were just basically, you know, taken out, taken out to the woodshed and punished for exposing weakness of the dollar in the late 1970s, early 80s. And nobody touched silver. Again, there was a time when Warren Buffett supposedly was, you know, into some physical silver, but, you know, he has that pet rock theory. He doesn't do anything and didn't really, I think he held some for a while and then dumped it. So nobody through the 80s and 90s and 2000s has picked up the mantle of silver. But JP Morgan was one of those entities that started accumulating. And I imagine that they have a lot of
Starting point is 00:41:31 analysts who are looking at this as where does the Fiat dollar go? What is silver's uses for? All all the factors that would drive it up. And I think they've been, and again, they were convicted of suppressing the silver price while they were buying. So it's like, and that doesn't register with a lot of people. A lot of people think of stock fraud as a pump and dump where they're just going to inflate the price, drive people in it and then sell off. That's not what they did.
Starting point is 00:41:59 This has been a long-term play. And I'd love to see if I didn't have enough time to verify some of the things you sent me yesterday. but it does make sense that they... Yeah, I didn't get that to you until really late, and there was a lot there. The guy goes, it's about a half-hour video, and he's got two or three of them that he put up. But, yeah, it is a complicated situation. And, of course, there's always been this tension between gold and silver and go back to William Jennings Bryant
Starting point is 00:42:23 and his cross of gold speech and that type of thing. But it's, yeah, it's, we live in very strange times here. And, of course, we're talking about how Trump portrays this stuff. he just told the Detroit Economic Club that inflation is defeated. Nobody believes that but him. He is such a bold-faced liar that he will say that kind of. Probably go into stores. They can get that banner that George W. Bush just had.
Starting point is 00:42:53 The mission accomplished. We can get that back over the way. Just right in inflation. That's right. accomplished yeah yeah and uh we had evidence of that uh everybody was scared to death of what he was going to do when he started coming after jerome powell and and that was one of the reasons i said um when we're talking about this thing in the fall and you would see you know j p morgan all these different uh large banks goldman sacks everything they come up with a bank of america they've got
Starting point is 00:43:21 their analysts to say well we think gold is going to be here at this point in the first quarter or the second quarter of the first half or this i you know we see that kind of stuff all the time from them. And they constantly kept revising it up. And it's like, well, we just passed out already. You know, you should look at this stuff in the fall. And I said, it's really going to really step up because Jerome Powell is going to be ending his term. But, you know, Trump doesn't even want to wait for that. He is so eager to play games with interest rates and with quantitative easing. I mean, he is chomping at the bit. And so much so that he's going to take the risk I got what risk. I mean, his supporters are going to support him no matter what he does.
Starting point is 00:44:04 But so much so that he wants to come after with criminal charges, come after Jerome Powell and get rid of him like he did, Lisa Cook. Isn't that interesting? I think that's a big tell as to what his economic policies are going to be. Right out the gate, he's going to do everything he can to push every button to have easy money. That's going to make inflation roar. He's going to pour a lot of gasoline on the fire. he's an agent of chaos. Yeah, he is. You know, the Federal Reserve is a criminal entity, just not really maybe for the building of an extra wing,
Starting point is 00:44:37 I think it's for the entire scope of what they've done to our currency, to our world. I mean, I mean, the very reality in the fabric of America has been ripped apart by a central bank. That's right. It is very telling. And, you know, certainly he has a lot that he can say, how can you justify two and a half billion dollars, not even to build? I mean, this is not foundation costs or grading costs. This is just decorations, right? They're going to remodel it
Starting point is 00:45:06 with decorate, $2.5 billion of decorations for these existing buildings. That's outrageous. But I said, so he's going to audit that, but he's not going to audit the Fed itself. He's not going to audit Fort Knox's gold. Let's focus on this other thing over here that really doesn't matter, as an indication of the corruption and just the raw power that the Federal Reserve has. It's absolutely astounding. I mean, and people are following this like this is a good thing. And I think it's just chaos for the sake of chaos. The whole thing that's pushing all of this, you know, the drive and prices is the movement
Starting point is 00:45:48 out of like safe haven traditional markets where people played and, you know, there's long-term paper markets. this is fear. And again, it's governments that are involved. People might think I enjoy where we are in the silver prize. I think it should have taken a little bit longer. These massive hikes that we've seen that are really unprecedented since the 1970s. And this won't, I don't believe this will end like the 1970s, David.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I don't think that, you know, silver went from $52 to $2 in 1980. We're not, that's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. Nothing like that's going. There might be some pullback, and there probably will be both in gold and silver, and there's profit taking that could go on. But I think we're pushing new boundaries and price discovery every single day. And this is a reflection of the weakness of the dollar, the weakness of the fiat system, the massive and the systemic malignancy of worldwide debt, the global debt that is really, I mean, it's bankruptcy on paper for pretty much the entire world. you look at debt to GDP, and we've been talking about that for a long time, and it's only accelerating, but there's an underlying, I think, story going on with silver because of the governments that I think are starting to realize that these strategic assets, and especially silver, gold, things like that, they're reaching for the physical bullion, and all the paper
Starting point is 00:47:17 markets, those days are gone. And thank God. I mean, I remember February of 21, David, They did the Wall Street bets and they did the whole, the Reddit people, and they did this, you know, buy silver. And people were sold out of physical silver all around the country. And they were trying to get the price to move by buying out the physical silver. And people went and bought physical silver out of shops. And one of my, my shop was that way. And we sold out. And the next day, the price went down.
Starting point is 00:47:48 And that's because they did because they sold off these paper markets that they used to be able to control the price. They sold off 1.5 times the annual supply in one day. And just sold, you know, hit sell, sell, sell. And it dumped that price down. So the spot actually went down. But if you went in to go buy silver the next day, you couldn't get any. And I thought, this is broken. This can't last.
Starting point is 00:48:11 This is a complete exposure of what that market was. Well, we're not there anymore. And you can't go back. You go to the beginning of the year when we talked about the Black Swan event. really with unintended consequences was just the threat of tariffs and not giving clarification on whether gold or silver or commodities would be tariffed if they entered into the country. Yeah, yeah. And that alone started clearing out vaults and contracts were called.
Starting point is 00:48:42 It's a cascading event. It needed to happen. But that was the unintended consequence. Without that, we don't have $4,600 gold on our way to $5,000. we don't have that. If you remember last year, we hit an all-time high over 30 plus times. I think almost every time I come on the air with you, there would be a new all-time high. That's right.
Starting point is 00:49:03 So it was really an unprecedented. It's uncharted waters. And nothing really in history lines up to what we're watching exactly. It's, I don't think it even rhymes. Well, yeah, it's a very different time. If you go back and you look at the 1980s, what was happening to that in terms of gold and silver. That was the shock that was sent through the system because of the energy, because of OPEC and the oil shortage and embargo and things like that.
Starting point is 00:49:34 That set off a wave of inflation. And we saw that in the interest rates. And so just in this last week, kind of to underscore that, the fact that Trump is talking about the confiscatory interest rates on credit cards. Well, that's there because they got red of the caps on usury. It wasn't a federal cap, as I pointed out this week. It was state law. And this is a tradition that had gone back to the 1500s in English and American tradition, that you would not charge more than 6 or 8 percent.
Starting point is 00:50:08 It would be illegal. I'd be considered to be usury, loan sharking, that type of thing. But because we had such rapid inflation, first the Supreme Court and then the Congress. and Supreme Court in 1978, then the Congress in 1980, did things to essentially get rid of the state usury laws. And so now Trump wants to do just a one-year moratorium on these ridiculous rates that they're able to charge people. It's the most amazing thing, but it really does show the character of the banking system, Tony, when you see how they come back at the state, well, if you cut the interest rates that were allowed to charge poor people who can't pay off
Starting point is 00:50:45 their balance, that would hurt the poor people. That would restrict their credit. It's like, how does that hurt the poor people if they're not allowed to go into debt to you for 20 to 30 percent a year? I mean, it's a, oh, and of course, it would hurt us as well. But yeah, it would hurt you, but it would not hurt the poor people. That's almost like saying that. Sorry, you're not going to be able to drink your paycheck or poured into the casino slot machine. You know, we're going to prohibit that. But it truly is exploitive. And, um, oh, It's been there for a long time. And so what I thought was interesting was that Trump's got, first of all, Scott Bessent was confronted at one of these economic clubs about that and said, you're starting to sound like Elizabeth Warren.
Starting point is 00:51:31 And then Trump called Elizabeth Warren. So on economic issues, we've got the, Trump is Elizabeth Warren on issues of war in peace. We've got Lindsay Graham. That's what kind of where his advisors are, right? We're supposed to believe that he's the peace president, he's a Republican, and yet he's looking at Elizabeth Warren and Lindsey Graham. They are his influences. But when you talk about paper, silver, paper gold,
Starting point is 00:51:57 we're talking about stuff on the Shanghai Stock Gold Exchange, which is SLV for silver and GLD for gold. This has been the way that a lot of people who are typically in the stock market would just move things over into silver or gold. But I notice what you talked about was something that was far more broken. than what I saw, I just saw, you know, probably, I guess back in 2018 or 19, I saw that when gold was moving, the paper gold was going in a different direction or staying still, you know, it wasn't tied to the spot market. And I thought, why is that?
Starting point is 00:52:31 And I started looking into it, and then I realized I wasn't really getting gold when I bought paper gold, when I bought GLD or whatever. And that's really the issue. And I think it's something that we need to be concerned about, as you see, test. going in and saying they're going to tokenize gold into the into their stable coins, right? It's not clear how that's going to work out. I mean, who audits that to see if they've really got the gold there? Just that's the issue with the Shanghai Gold Exchange and Silver Exchange. Do they really have the gold and silver?
Starting point is 00:53:04 Or are they saying that they've got it and then trading paper contracts for it? It may not be tokenized because it's not on the blockchain, but it is still securitized, just like the phony mortgages and. 2008, right? That's right. And the beautiful thing that happened in 1974, we were, because of Gerald Ford, taking over after Nixon resigned,
Starting point is 00:53:27 we got the ability to own gold again. It was legal after, you know, FDR from 1933 to 1974, is FDR that made it illegal for you to own gold. You know, you couldn't, I remember listening to Robert Kiyosaki, who was coming back from Vietnam as a Marine, and he'd smuggled in a crew grand that he bought
Starting point is 00:53:45 just after we went off the gold standard. But you mentioned something earlier that I think, and this is why I brought that up, that we can own gold, and they may be making a play on that eventually. We have to be vigilant on that. I mean, I think you mentioned Tether and some of these stable coins, and how do they back this up?
Starting point is 00:54:05 And, you know, people ask me about gold standards and all the rest, but we already really have one. And that's because we're outside. When you and I have a gold or silver coin or an ounce of bullion or a bar, and it's recognizable. We're outside of the system. We're our own bank. Same thing with Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:54:21 You know, millions of Americans are unbankable. And you have these predatory institutions that you mentioned. And they're all fruit of the poisonous tree. We got this financial system that we have post-1971. When all bets are off, when you have a fake currency, it tends to create these type of entities that prey on the lower economic strata. You just can't get out of that cycle. I mean, it hasn't been that long ago.
Starting point is 00:54:44 I had to use some of those things. When I was between ventures and stuff, I had to get, you know, small loans, weekly loans, stuff like that. And it hasn't been that long ago. And, you know, this is a, the reality I live in today is a lot different than it was, you know, 10 years ago. When I, you know, when I, so I had to use some of those things. And they're awful and they're hard to get out of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:06 So they keep those people in a cycle. You know, it is a trap. It's just, you know, the same thing that Trump is says a one year moratorium. on this. Well, you see that kind of stuff all the time. You know, move your credit card balance over to Earth thing. You won't pay any interest for a year, whatever. Then it shoots up higher, which higher than where you are right now. You know, and so that kind of stuff, you know, what Trump is proposing is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. And it's not something that's going to work out for the benefit of consumers, just like his 50-year home mortgage is not going to work out for the benefit of consumers.
Starting point is 00:55:38 That would be a horrible thing to get involved in. And price controls. Yeah. We know the price controls. This is the 70s all over again, but just worse. I mean, just on every scale, the corruption, the amount of bureaucracy, everything in between is amplified. So, you know, when you, a true prosperity would cure a lot of these ills and a real free market would cure a lot. But this is crony capitalism.
Starting point is 00:56:07 This is what happens when all these things, these entities that are tied to the central bank. and everybody waiting for unbated breath and what the Fed's going to do with interest rates instead of just worrying about economic outcomes and building infrastructure, economic infrastructure, all the stuff that should be going on. Right. And that's why the new $100 bills is a one ounce silver eagle. My friend Charlie Robinson sent me a meme that yesterday. That's about right.
Starting point is 00:56:31 That's good. I like that. The new $100 bill, yeah. Yeah, everything that Trump is doing is a gimmick, right? He's not, you know, affordability is the big issue. That is the elephant in the room as far as these elections are going. And 92% of people who have jobs, we're not talking about people unemployed, 92% of people have jobs said that they're struggling, according to a recent poll.
Starting point is 00:56:55 So when you look at affordability and Trump comes in, he wants to play some financial games to help you to get a house, he says. But if you are, you know, if inflation is eating into people and taxes and all these, different predatory things that we've got in terms of mandated insurance and this and that. All of that is there and all the government regulations that are raising the price of things and killing industry and killing manufacturing. When you look at all those regulations, if those are there and the society is fundamentally sick and getting poor, there isn't any kind of financial game that you're going to play that's
Starting point is 00:57:31 going to help anybody. I mean, it's just something to kind of a sugar hive that he's hoping people won't realize until after they voted for it. I saw this article, Tony. I thought this was interesting. Egyptian Army holds billions in secret cash as the country misses a debt deadline. And so, you know, they've got all this money in the Egyptian Army and the Egyptian government says, wait a minute, we've got to make a debt payment to the IMF.
Starting point is 00:57:55 And they said, well, we're not telling you where the money is. But, you know, all the money that Trump is funneling over to the Pentagon. And he loves to brag about his tax increase as if, you know, people fill in the blank. And they think, well, he's going to use this tariff revenue to get rid of the income tax. No, that's not going to happen. He's going to use it to pay down the debt. No, that's not going to happen. He says, I'll give it back to you as a check.
Starting point is 00:58:18 That's not going to happen either. He's talking about, let's increase the new record defense budget. We just went over a trillion dollars for the first time. Let's make it one-a-half trillion. Yeah, so we are flush with cash now. It's amazing. But when you watch him, you can start to see the lines of how this guy bankrupted six casinos, can't you?
Starting point is 00:58:40 Well, it has the hallmark of everything that is short term. Yeah. Everything is short. This isn't long-term planning, again, not building financial infrastructure, not incentivizing the free market. We're not doing any of that. This is crony capitalism. And you see the breakdown of institutions.
Starting point is 00:58:57 You just mentioned the Egyptian army and the hoarding of cash. By the way, keeping it from the IMF, which was born out of Breton Woods in 1944, this was the old economic world order that is coming to an end. There's the new institutions are being born, new factions being born. That's a key indicator, especially since we went off the petro dollar. I mean, it wasn't an official thing. We just lost it. In 2024, that agreement pretty much lapsed.
Starting point is 00:59:28 And people have been asking me, is Venezuela about repropping up the petro dollar? I'm like, no, I don't think that it is. We're going in a completely different direction. and maybe they don't even know where they're going, but it's the digital currency, certainly on the rise, the off ramps from the stable coins and all that. We'll be talking about that in the months and years to come.
Starting point is 00:59:49 No, that's institutional breakdown is what you're watching with the Egyptian issue. And I think that's going to start happening more and more. We're, you know, the hoarding of cash, the hoarding of commodities, because the bracing for impact, what comes next? We don't have trust,
Starting point is 01:00:05 and either the trust is diminishing. And we trusting us as far as being the world's reserve currency in this, you know, the stable country that we were perceived to be is completely off the table. Everything is coming unraveled because we're here at the end of this fourth turning. I just saw a clip. I can't remember the woman's name. We've seen her on this Ukraine thing several times. She's notable because she's one of the youngest people in terms of leadership. I mean, we have this gerentocracy now, you know, ruled by really old people.
Starting point is 01:00:37 She's in like her 30s, I think. And she came out and said she's been the spokesperson for the EU in terms of Ukraine and things like that. She came out and she said, well, I think when we look at what's going on, we just need to have a drink. This is her remedy. It's so bad. I think the only way we can cope with this is just to get drunk and drop out of reality. And I think that's a harbinger of what's coming, don't you? I think that about sums it up.
Starting point is 01:01:05 when they've reached, they've run out of, you know, run out of tools, whatever's in their tool bag, they've run out of. And, you know, I think you'll see that for a lot more where people just shrug. That's what we don't talk about the elephant in the room. We don't talk about the debt anymore. Nobody really talk. You get like one, you get Thomas Massey. We'll talk about it.
Starting point is 01:01:28 You don't get, this is not even talked about by the so-called conservative movement. I think that you covered that well this week. conservatism is dead. It is. Modern conservatism. This isn't, this isn't Russell Kirk. This isn't Pat Buchanan. This isn't any of those stuff.
Starting point is 01:01:44 There's no intellectual heft behind any of this. This is group think, cultish behavior, and parroting, you know, headlines and things that are void of any sort of thought. And it's really sad to watch because that's the camp that I came out of, you know. I mean, I'm more traditional, you know, Edmund Burke or something type of. Yeah, no, it's not any principle. are just trying to conserve the status quo. The status goal is given to us by the liberals who seek to destroy us economically and in terms
Starting point is 01:02:12 of liberty and the rest of the stuff. But you've talked so much about the massive debt that we have that all these different countries have. I mean, it's just a sea of debt. And so it was kind of interesting. Van Eck, and this is an article off of Kitko, Van Eck, analysts looked at this and said, well, you know, let's take a look. You know, what if we were to go back to gold?
Starting point is 01:02:35 as a standard. What would be the price of gold? So if gold were to back M0, that is the base money, it would need to trade at $39,000 per ounce. If gold were to back M2, which is broad money, and in terms of that, we're talking about, you know, M2 is things like, including savings, deposits, money market funds, and things like that, M0 is really just kind of cash that is issued by the government. So if it were to go to broad money, M2, it would need to trade at $184,000 per ounce. The price of gold in order to cover the outstanding debt that these people have put together, the money liabilities in a scenario where the only thing you got left is gold. And, of course, the central banks have been accumulating gold as if it was going to be the only thing that was left. It's going to be what they have in terms of making a case for their legitimacy or making a case for their new
Starting point is 01:03:32 financial system. They're going to need to have gold. That's why they're all racing to get it. And this massive debt that we have, just a sovereign debt in all these different countries, not even including the consumer debt that is there. It's truly amazing. It really reminds me, and I know people have done a lot of these, the analysis on what would it look like? If we go back to a gold standard, I was on the, when I first went on the air and I was on conservative talk radio in Dallas, there was a host there that argued
Starting point is 01:04:05 that we couldn't go back to a gold standard. There's not enough gold. And I thought, well, no, no, no. I'm like, you got it backwards. Like, of course there's enough gold. But they were, we have trillions of dollars. You couldn't make that into gold. And I thought, well, that's, that is,
Starting point is 01:04:21 I guess that's modern conservative think, you know, where we just, we have to infinite prints and other things. No, you'd have to be, if you have a limited supply of money, which is the way that you're supposed to have it. And with sound money, you have a limited supply, which makes it valuable. You have to be fiscally responsible, which means you have to have some measure of sanity. You can't just do anything you want and build anything you want and bomb anything you want. You have to have. So with the root of everything that's falling apart for us is fake money.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Because you can just paper over everything until you can't. And I think that's why we're reaching endgame where the institutions are coming apart. Trust is completely diminished. The amount of corruption that we see is unprecedented. I mean, all this stuff that is systemic in everything we do. But it's worldwide, folks. I mean, it's global. It's not just here in the U.S.
Starting point is 01:05:16 All these central banks, it's a sad reality watching. For them to, I mean, people will float this idea about gold standards, Well, we already have one. It's ourselves. And these governments are, you don't want the government involved with your gold, in my opinion, because look at what happened in 1933. That's right. You know, I like the free market.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Let the free market decide. You can have your fiat currencies. I mean, I would love it if we had a consensus in this country about fiscal responsibility and the evils of central banking and all the rest of that. But we're not anywhere near there. And if they just take that and then they make it into a gold standard, it's not good for us. Yeah, your gold might go up and you're told to sell it or whatever it is. I just don't, I don't subscribe to that. Yeah, that's right. To that theory.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I got a couple of questions for you from listeners here. Hatchcar 61 said, excellent that Tony's back. Can you please ask him why Wolfpack packages are taking longer to be delivered? Well, that's a great thing on that. Well, my crew, and by the way, I have just great people. and I look around sometimes like, how did all these people show up? I have wonderful people, and we ship everything out of Missouri. It has been a really efficient last 30 days.
Starting point is 01:06:36 I know my crew is doing a great job. I think the mail is something that if you're going USPS, some packages do or UPS. That's an interesting question. You can always mail into the crew. I want to check your tracking number. Most of the time, we're in real time.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Like if your card gets charged like on a Monday, most of the time like on a Wednesday, you've already got a tracking number. So I don't know. I'd have to look at that. I know things are changing in terms of shipping. And we've used a service called Sindel. And they just kicked us off.
Starting point is 01:07:08 You know, Karen is saying, what is going? Did they go out of business? No way. They didn't go out of business. And she's asking them questions and they won't respond to her. And it's like, I don't know, we've been debanked in the past. We now have been deship. I don't know what's going on with it.
Starting point is 01:07:22 But we can still take stuff down to the post office and put it through. But there's some crazy things going on. And Amazon has just said they're not going to use the postal system anymore. So that's going to be a big hit for the postal system, just like it was for UPS when they didn't have that business. And so, you know, there's a lot of things that are happening right now on the shipping side of it as well. It really is.
Starting point is 01:07:44 And I think it's all things, David. So many companies that I used to rely on for service and other things, I just, you don't get that same, the competency. Yeah. Isn't there? And I ask other entrepreneurs and other people and they said, no, this is real. You're like, you're not, you're not going insane. It's not, it's just not the same.
Starting point is 01:08:03 And, you know, even UPS, we have issues. It's funny because the girls who run my Branson shop who do all the packing, they're used to run a UPS store. And I asked her, I said, so when we put in a claim with UPS, have we ever gotten the package back? Because when we lose a package for Wolfpack, I just replace it. So I just eat it. Like I don't ever get it back.
Starting point is 01:08:28 And so it's funny. I'm like, have we ever gotten one back on a claim? She said, no. I'm like, so we just put it in just for the record. We put it in, you know, we never get that back. And used to, there would be a lot more of an investigation process. And no, I just think that's, that's everywhere. So at least Wise Wolf, we've still got, you can get a whole,
Starting point is 01:08:48 people call all the time. and I answered the phone and why wouldn't I? I mean, well, it's kind of like what you're talking about. We're seeing this everywhere. It's a Corey Doctoro, the science fiction writer.
Starting point is 01:08:58 It's kind of a rude term, but he calls it insidification. That's really what's happening to everything. It's not just the software stuff and not just things online, but it's just everything. Everything. Things have gotten so complicated that nothing is working anymore. Like,
Starting point is 01:09:12 it seems like AP Rumble seat says, I would trust Tony, but can you talk about flexibility to sell, if you might need to. Is that at all viable? I don't know much about metal investments, he says. I mean, we're buying. I don't think this is a great time to sell. I mean, honestly, because you're not, you need to wait for things to stabilize. And because of the whip sawing that's gone back and forth, my buying rates, you know, I'm at 85% of spot on anything over an ounce of silver. And people at, why would you be that way? It's because of the,
Starting point is 01:09:49 There's no end buyers. And David, I won't name the institutions. I'm three weeks from getting paid for a very, very large orders that have been with wholesalers. Three weeks. Wow. That means that I had to take it out. People sold me stuff. I sold it to the trading floor.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Trading floor hasn't paid me. And that's because they're backed up. Yeah. And, you know, this bottlenecked everywhere. So I've had to make tough decisions on, you know, what I'm actually percentages I'm buying for. Now, if you're a Wolfpack member, of your David Knight listener, just call me,
Starting point is 01:10:21 we can do something a little bit different. But the majority of times for like physical walk-in shops, and by the way, it hasn't slowed much down. I mean, I just made able to, I have a little bit more flexibility.
Starting point is 01:10:32 I have to go sell stuff to the refiners or whatever. But, you know, we don't have in this market and what's funny is do you see rising prices, but limited retail buyers. And the reason is because institutions are buying,
Starting point is 01:10:46 folks. Yeah. Institutions. That's right. And that's not, it's not, and there's an article. We had that last year. I remember that, that video. We talked about it at the point in time.
Starting point is 01:10:55 There was a silver show, you know, like a golden silver show. I have gun shows and things. And this guy goes around, he talks to all the different dealers. And I said, yeah, you know, silver, everybody wants to sell silver, but, you know, the institutional buyers are getting everything. The price is going up. They're just, you know, the people off the street are coming in, and they're not buying silver. But it's all institutional.
Starting point is 01:11:19 institutional in terms of buying. It's institutional. Yeah. Maybe they know something. And maybe, well, the other thing. And I think it's institutional, but more importantly, more than market forces, I think it's governmental. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Well, and it's the chaos and volatility that we see everywhere. And, you know, it's not just the tariffs that have created that kind of an issue. It is something that's happening through every type of business. Wally Waller says gold got Gaddafi killed. Yeah. That's absolutely right. We got the emails from Hillary Clinton talking about that and, you know, how they can't have him set up another standard in competition to the kind of fiat system that they had in Europe.
Starting point is 01:11:59 The banks don't want that. Yeah, that was peak fiat. You know, that was peak fiat was with Gaddafi. And what happened? He wanted to do an African back, gold back currency there, you know. And the interesting is the Hunt family used to own the oil rights in Libya. And there was that, you know, coup d'et. on the revolution. You got a Colonel Gaddafi.
Starting point is 01:12:21 You know, the state of a colon. Never, never graduated. I mean, a colonel. The Hunts were right there at the epicenter of a lot of things, weren't they? They were the epicenter of that, too. We have a peak fiat. If you go back to 2009, an interesting metric, you know, after the great financial crisis, central bank buying of gold was almost at zero. And they, we just relied on the dollar. I mean, market holdings were dollars. The world transacted in dollars. And that's the way it was, that and that was a watershed moment and uh central banks started buying gold and now everything it's just a race not only for gold but i think you know minerals um you know silver copper
Starting point is 01:13:01 all these other things that are going on things that make that that actually society runs off of and uh and away from the fiat system they know what's going on and that's central banks are they're they're sick the institutions are signaling to you folks what the future is yeah that's right Absolutely. Well, gold in terms of the, you know, things that we have any control over is one of the few things that we can do, I think, to actually try to move against this tide of chaos, you know, is the one thing that has basically retained its value. And again, we look to God for our real provision, but in terms of things that we have control over, that we should do something about. that is one of the few things that we can do to kind of guard against and hedge against this kind of chaos and volatility that is deliberate as being put out there. It's not just stupidity. It is deliberate what is being done out there.
Starting point is 01:13:56 And so I really do appreciate what you do. Tony worked with you for many years. And what you do is you provide a way for people to get into that on a small regular basis with Wolfpack. That is a really important thing. Of course, you can handle large transactions. actions one way or the other, but the idea that people can save gradually and you make that service available, that is really a valuable service for people to be able to gradually save into that, whatever they can put aside for the rainy day, because folks, there's a storm
Starting point is 01:14:26 on the way, big storm. They like to talk about that. We still got some time to dollar cost average. That's right. Somebody emailed me yesterday and said that they'll come back to Wolfpack when prices go down. I thought, I don't know. It reminded me that meme of The skeleton sitting at the computer, you know, like the... I don't know when prices are going to come down. I'm sure, you know, this is... And I don't know how you can do your job because I don't know how you, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:56 how do you, when it's this volatile, you know, how do you understand where things are going? It's got to really be difficult. I got a good team. I have a good team. And, you know, we did a lot of planning for this. I think we just, it accelerated and went past... So I wasn't fully prepared.
Starting point is 01:15:14 That's why I to take December and part of January off. It's just been. Well, that's what we talk about. Yeah, that's what we talk about. We talk about hyperinflation and how, you know, prices are constantly changing in Germany or Zimbabwe or whatever. And, you know, it's just total chaos like that. And yet, you know, what you're living with,
Starting point is 01:15:31 things are changing so quickly in gold and silver. It's like having to do business in a hyperinflation environment. Yes. Which is what you're looking at. Yeah, imagine then like you amplify it over, you know, your shops and then you got, you know, the direct sales and you got Wolfpack and he's trying to constantly keep up with, you know, are you making, you can you keep the lights on? You know, because you have so many price fluctuations.
Starting point is 01:15:53 And we've been pretty lucky because the deals that I needed walked in when they do, you know, like, oh, I need the supply. I get the supply, you know. So we're, we're okay. That's good. And I'm glad that we're built the way we, I'm glad I'm not over leveraged, David. I'm glad that instinct to go do things, hoard things. things or do things, you know, or become a different type of company, you know, like a, you know, I just know my limitations and what we were built to do. And Wise Wolf is a, this was designed to be
Starting point is 01:16:24 more closer to the earth to regular people. Um, you know, we're, we're never, we're not going to be this giant conglomerate. I don't want that for the, for my company. I just, I think with the size of we are is perfect. Yeah. Um, to serve. We can serve nationally. We can serve locally and, um, you know, and keep up with prices, and that's where we are right now. But, yeah, it's been an interesting time. I look forward to our talks weekly. I want to make sure that we're doing this weekly again. I think it's good for both of us.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Yeah, it's kind of been great talking to you. Yeah, it's been a while. And tomorrow we're going to have Gerald Slenty. It's been a while since we've talked to Gerald Slynti as well. He's going to be on with us tomorrow. Oh, good. I can't wait for that. We'll get his trends and predictions for 2026.
Starting point is 01:17:09 We'll see which war he wants to focus on the most. He's got it's like a smorgasbord there. You know, every day it's another war for Trump. It's crazy. But thank you so much, Tony, for coming on. And again, you can go to David Knight-Dy Gold, and that will take you to Wise Wolf Gold, Tony Arden. That'll let him know that you're coming from us.
Starting point is 01:17:26 And so thank you, Tony, for what you do. It's been a great year this year. And I know that it's going to be a great year for gold and silver this next year as well. Again, you know, when you look at, like you said, it's not going to be like 1980. Because 1980, the price of gold and silver was really a response to the shock of inflation from OPEC. And once that tapered down and they got that under control, then gold and silver went back down. But when we look at the horizon, what we're seeing here with this is completely different. We have so many different trends.
Starting point is 01:17:57 And they're not external. They're internal. And you've got all of these different things coming together all at once. It really is like a perfect storm. It's like three storm for them. I guess that was one thing. What was it? The Q&9 people, the storm is coming. Well, they're right.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Not in the way that they meant it, though. But it is a storm that is coming. And it is a bipartisan storm that's been building up off the coast for a very long time and been building up in Washington for a very long time. So thank you again, Tony. Appreciate it. David Knight. That goal take you to Tony.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Thank you, Tony. We're going to take a quick break, folks. We'll be right back. We're listening to the David Knight Show. Well, it's not a big issue in the scheme of things, but it does talk about the character of these massed militarized police. I reportedly stole a 10th grader's phone, then apparently sold it for cash. Ice agents reportedly stole a teenage boy's phone and then seemingly pawned it for cash afterwards. This is a report from ProPublica.
Starting point is 01:19:54 They said that this boy and his father were on their way to make. McDonald's, his father was an illegal alien. They were pulled over by the masked agents. After several agents violently tackled his father to the ground with one pressing a knee into his neck, another put the 16-year-old in a suffocating chokehold. When he told the agent he was a child and a minor, the agent didn't stop. I started screaming with everything I had because I couldn't even breathe, he said. I felt like I was going to pass out and die.
Starting point is 01:20:25 He was taking photos of the encounter with his phone. that was then confiscated as he was taken into custody. Later when he used his Find My iPhone feature to track down his device, it led him to a vending machine for used electronics that was several miles away, but it was near an ICE detention center, according to reporting. Someone, and we can only guess who, had apparently sold his phone after ICE had confiscated it. The idea of ICE stealing and then selling somebody's phone is jarring. As one person said, well, this is not the key part of the story, obviously, but they sold his phone.
Starting point is 01:21:08 This is not to be a surprise when we look at the corruption of secret police, militarized police. Police, as I pointed out, a giant army that would be the 14th largest military budget in the world if they were a separate country. but they're not, unfortunately. We have armies of domestic police, boots on the ground here in America, boots on our necks here in America. And, of course, a big part of what they're interested in is surveillance. They're pouring in tens of millions of dollars into one surveillance program after the other where there it's the roads or the streets, a car, license plate recognition,
Starting point is 01:21:50 flock cameras looking at your car and profiling your car, or biometric information on your face. They're looking at what you're doing on social media. They're looking at your phones, all of this. But you're not allowed to photograph them. You're not allowed to take their picture. And they're wearing masks. And they will get in your face with their masked face.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Knock your phone to the ground. Knock you to the ground. And that's just the beginning of what they'll do. Also, what does that point out? This sort of behavior is incredibly common. Yeah. It happens so frequently with the TSA. It's not as visible because generally the TSA isn't tackling, even throwing you to the ground.
Starting point is 01:22:27 They just have easy access to your stuff, which they steal and then sell very regularly. They don't like to be photographed either, right? Because you have no recourse. It's your word against theirs. Oh, oops. I wonder how that happened. That's right. Yeah. You better believe I'm going to photograph any account I have with the government and keep a record of it. Anyway, so again, the fact that they would find this near an... ICE detention center. And so after being detained and released by ICE, his family took him to the Texas Children's
Starting point is 01:22:59 Hospital, where staff moved him to a trauma unit after identifying signs of a chokehold. The doctors ordered dozens of CT scans, x-rays, including for his head, neck, and spine. His father says, or family says, that the agents threatened to charge him with assaulting an officer unless his dad agreed to be deported. That's how these guys were. So the father is now in Mexico. Well, again, you know, you can take the approach. Well, they should never have come here in the first place.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Well, I agree. But look, do we really want to have a government like this? Do you really want to have these guys who pretend to be police, who pretend to enforce laws when they say that there's no law for them, who are given carte blanche to do whatever they wish? They steal property from people. They bully and hurt 16-year-olds. They blackmail family members.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Is that really what we want from our government? That is a foolish bargain. Like, I understand, and you know, if you've listened to me over the years, that I don't agree with illegal immigration. And that is a big point with me. This is as a big a point with me as it is with Maga. But the means matter. How you do this makes all the difference in the world. And so you've got some we're talking about impeaching Christian Homes.
Starting point is 01:24:22 unfortunately, you know, here's the headline. Nuclear option is launched against Christenome by 70 Democrats. 70? Only 70. Only Democrats. That's what's disgusting about all this. When you look at how many Democrats are, I mean, there's 213 Democrats in the House. 70 of them.
Starting point is 01:24:44 That's only 32%. That's not even, that's just about, just under a third, okay, of the Democrats want to impeach Christenome. Impeachment ought to be the least that happens to this woman. I mean, I just showed you the other day that she put this, you did a speech. One of ours, all of yours. I mean, this is the literal slogan of the Nazis when they destroyed villages. You kill one of ours like Hydrick. We'll kill everybody in your village and we want you to know that. That's what she's doing. I know it sounds tiresome to homely. security would be called Nazis all the time. Well, then stop acting like Nazis. And when you look at
Starting point is 01:25:28 Iran, for example, as I said the other day, the only difference between these Iranian, quote unquote, law enforcement people that are murdering people in the streets and are ICE agents, it's the flag that they fly. You take down that Iranian flag, you put up an American flag, and all the MAGA people going, ooh-rah, hoorah, you know, USA, we love this stuff. I don't. Authoritarianism is authoritarianism. It doesn't matter what flag you fly. These people always act the same way.
Starting point is 01:26:00 This is this cartoon here. This is Maga, for example. Well, at least we're safe from immigrants, right? And the man and woman have a QR code on their sweater. They have barcode on their forehead. There's an army of police around them. There's drones above them. There's cameras beside them.
Starting point is 01:26:23 This is what the people who are so overwhelmingly concerned about the open borders and understand folks, the open borders were created by both Republicans and Democrats. It's worse under the Democrats, but the Republicans didn't do anything about it either. And so they created this problem because their solution is to have the police state. Just like they created the pandemic, which didn't exist, because their solution was a bioweapon vaccine. You don't want their solution. And you don't be fooled by what these people are doing.
Starting point is 01:27:00 I'm going to take a real quick break, folks, and we're going to come back. I want to finish what I was saying about common sense because we don't have any common sense. And we need to make sense common again, don't we? We'll be right back. Analyzing the globalist next move. Well, welcome back.
Starting point is 01:28:39 And I want to go back to, what John Whitehead is working on because, you know, he's talking about Thomas Payne. I got to say, I would nominate John Whitehead as the Thomas Payne of our time if I had to pick somebody. But he goes back, he quotes Madison and Jefferson, Madison saying, if men were angels, we wouldn't need government, right? And Jefferson said, yeah, but in questions of power, let no more be heard in the confidence of man, but bind him down from mischief with the chains of the Constitution.
Starting point is 01:29:09 But these are chains that have been easily snapped. as he points out, Trump speaks in the language of kings, of strong men, of would-be emperors advocating for personal rule over constitutional government. America's founders rejected that logic. They revolted against tyranny. They built for themselves a system of constitutional restraints, checks, balances, divided authority through separation of power. And this is the key thing.
Starting point is 01:29:35 An informed, vigilant populace. You know, Jefferson said, the price of liberty is eternal. vigilance. That's why ICE hates you filming them. Think about that. All their hard work of the founders is being undone, not by accident, and it's not being done overnight. This is not about left versus right. It's not even about whether Trump is a savior or villain. It's about the danger of concentrating unchecked power in any one individual, regardless of political party, regardless of their personality or their character or their lack of character, the end does not justify the means, right?
Starting point is 01:30:17 That's what we have to understand over and over again. We have to keep coming back to that. Power can be used for the right reasons today, but it will be used for the wrong reasons tomorrow. History shows that once the machinery of oppression is built, once we have the surveillance systems, the militarized enforcement, the emergency authorities. It does not care who operates the controls.
Starting point is 01:30:41 The only question is, who will be targeted next? This is why it's so amazing to me. You know, you see the left and the right, constantly going back to January 6th, what lesson did either of them learn other than rabid partisanship? Nothing. You know, when you look at John Stewart, you know, or Jesse Ventura, whatever, the left is, they look at it and they see the people that were fighting the cops that were there. They don't see what happened before.
Starting point is 01:31:06 They don't care what happened afterwards to people who were peaceful protesters. And then you look at the right. And they don't, even though they saw the weaponization of government, they want more power given to the president just after they saw the corruption of the Biden administration. Oh, let's give more power to Washington. No, you need to devolve power away from Washington because there will be another Biden. You just want to make sure he doesn't have the power. I can't understand why the left and the right took these lessons.
Starting point is 01:31:40 And this is the understanding of the grassroots people that I'm talking about. Trump's 2.0 has done more to dismantle the nation's constitutional guardrails than any other time in history. This is now unfolding through emergency declarations, warrantless raids, speech-based detentions, unaccountable surveillance, military actions launched without consent, debate or constitutional authority. Just one individual that is doing all of this stuff. And we don't, that's the danger of it. He says, and so we look at the sequence that always, that despotism always follows.
Starting point is 01:32:18 First of all, power is centralized. Well, we can check that box, can't we? And then the next one is accountability is dismantled. Certainly see that as well, don't we? Then finally, once law no longer restrains power, force takes its place. If we had a map, we would have an arrow. You are here. This is the stage that we're at.
Starting point is 01:32:41 Just like the other day, we were talking about the way that civilizations collapse, and we checked off of the five different steps. We're at step number four right now. Step number five is about to begin. If this is how Trump intends to celebrate the country's 250th birthday, it's maybe by reenacting, what the king did, the abuses that drove Americans to a revolt in 1776. Someone might need to clue him into the fact that it ended with Americans rejecting tyranny and absolute rule.
Starting point is 01:33:19 You know, that's what I hear when I hear J.D. Vance talking about how these ICE agents have absolute immunity. No, they don't. And if they do, shame on us for allowing that to happen. not under a system of law do they have absolute immunity under a system of tyranny they do when i heard that folks i don't care what else jaddy vance says or does not that i was supporting him before i got a lot of questions about how this chameleon has moved himself around the political spectrum in order to ingratiate himself to the technocrats i have issues with his making money off these self-amplifying MRNA jabs and many other things that jadey vans does he is part he's the handpicked uh salesman for the technocracy and you can see that when he says yeah our people
Starting point is 01:34:10 get absolute immunity well if that's the way this is going to work our system is done right now at this point you're talking about absolute immunity absolute tyranny is what we're talking about here. Consumed divisions of global conquest and military expansion, Trump has treated sovereignty as negotiable, international law as inconvenient. And we just had this happen yesterday with the people from Greenland and Denmark coming in. And when I looked on social media, I saw these people like, oh yeah, look, they're trying to pretend that they're brave, but they're going to cave. You know, this is Trump. He's strong. These are the influencers that. some of the most despicable people I've ever seen in my life.
Starting point is 01:34:56 I mean, I would never have believed that there would be people like this that I see on social media. And they call themselves conservatives. It's crazy. The Trump administration is justifying the cold-blooded assassination of an American citizen by a masked gunman as an act of self-defense and declaring, we have absolute immunity and we're not going to be, nobody's even going to investigate us. We're going to shut down the investigation from the get-go. They told absurd, made-up lies. that bore no resemblance to the facts of the thing
Starting point is 01:35:25 because of their utter contempt and their certainty that X and social media and their influencers would cover for them. Ice agents have been battering down doors, ramming into private homes, carrying out warrantless militarized raids that treat constitutional protections as an inconvenience in human beings
Starting point is 01:35:46 as expendable obstacles. I would say as their personal livestock. is the way they treat us with this. When a president surrounds himself with military parades, inflates defense budgets to obscene levels, deploys federal forces against the civilian population, and insists that his personal morality is the only safeguard against abuse, the Republic is no longer drifting toward tyranny.
Starting point is 01:36:11 It is sliding downhill fast. And when ego becomes policy, the results are predictable. Perpetual war, endless surveillance, violence, a criminalization of dissent, a public conditioned to accept abuses in the name of security and patriotism. Well, at least we don't have any more immigrants, right? Because who would want to come here? The Trump influencers and explainers are, in my opinion, enemies of the Constitution. They're enemies of liberty as well. And this, their appeasement for Trump, real.
Starting point is 01:36:51 is just beyond disgusting. It's not blind loyalty from the influencers. They actually see what's going on. They are putting out the eyes of the people who listen to them and plugging their ears to the sense that they can't. They're told, don't believe what you see. Don't believe what you hear. It's the worst kind of group think and double think.
Starting point is 01:37:15 Thomas Payne warned that a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right. And this is the essence, I think, of this what aboutism. Oh, what about what Biden did or what Obama did or whatever, whenever Trump is doing something that is criminal that they did and got away with? We need to say, this is enough. We're going to stop passing this back left and right and saying,
Starting point is 01:37:44 well, our guy can do it because your guy did it. Americans are being trained to accept what would have once been unthinkable. Law enforcement that kills without consequence. Presidents who operate above the law. Wars launched without consent, power exercise without accountability or authority. That normalization is the true danger. Which brings us to the question of common sense, forced Americans to confront in 1776. And we have to confront it again now.
Starting point is 01:38:14 are we going to be a nation that is governed by laws or by the will of a man? Because that was the essence of common sense. Do we want to have a king that is going to just dictate to us? Are we going to have consent of the governed? Are we going to have laws? Are we going to treat people as human beings rather than livestock? And as he points out, this was the moral foundations that we have lost. are really the key.
Starting point is 01:38:46 You know, we used to have the black regiment when this country was formed, and you would have pastors who would put this in context for the people who they talked to. But he said, now we've got the Franklin Graham's of this world who've exchanged moral authority
Starting point is 01:39:03 so they can have a seat at the table with Trump. As a matter of fact, you know, we talk about Trump being a pedophile protector. One of his spiritual advisors, quote-unquote, has just been convicted of pedophilia, and yet he got a slap on the wrist, just like Jeffrey Epstein. Isn't that interesting? So they'd have us believe that the lawful response with all this stuff
Starting point is 01:39:30 is just to comply, just to obey, because they've got power. And I have to say, these people have exchanged Christ for Trump. Scripture, he says, says John Whitehead, does not command blind obedience to power. I agree with that. That's what's wrong with that interpretation of Romans 13. Chuck Baldwin, I interviewed him not too long ago, but prior to that, the last time I had interviewed him was several years ago, and it was a few years before we had 2020 and the pandemic locked down and all the blind obedience to authority that's being sold by the people there. And we were talking about how that was going to work. It had all these people saying, well,
Starting point is 01:40:11 you do whatever the government says. It doesn't matter. You know, and Todd Friel said, if the government tells you to put a pinwheel on your head, you put a pinwheel on your head. He was saying that on the cusp of Biden mandating the vaccine for people in order to have a job or a life or anything else
Starting point is 01:40:31 to mandate the bioweapon that Trump had created. He said that. I thought it was reprehensible then, and I still think it is. It's just amazing that he would say that. Tell people, if the government tells you to commit suicide, you commit suicide. Drink the Kool-Aid, inject the Kool-Aid. That's what Todd Friel was saying.
Starting point is 01:40:51 I called him Pen-Will Friel. And again, blind obedience to power is not what we're told to do. Should you obey God or man? And just because these people are in power, they may be there as a means of testing you, but you don't obey them. just take a look at and that's what they were saying well you know we had obviously we had martyrs who when they were told you have to worship Caesar as God they said I'm not going to do it even under penalty of death that's why I call them martyrs because they were witnesses to what they had seen
Starting point is 01:41:28 and so they would come back and they say well of course if they tell you to deny Christ or to you know deny your convictions you don't follow that but When I interviewed Chuck Baldwin, we were talking about it, I said, you just wait. These same people who are telling you that now, when push comes to shove, they will tell you to obey the government instead of your convictions. And they did in 2020. They told people, shut the churches down. Okay. Show the churches down.
Starting point is 01:41:57 Inject yourself with a bioweapon. Okay, yeah, do it. And these people like Franklin Graham were telling you to do that at the same time. So he quotes here. John Whitehead quotes Martin Luther King Jr. said, and regardless of what you think of the man, take a look at what he has to say here. One has not only a legal,
Starting point is 01:42:20 but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. This is, you have to have the, discernment and the wisdom to distinguish between what is just and what is unjust. Whether you're talking about obedience to government or you're talking about war. Are we fighting wars to save lives? Are we fighting wars to end them? Or are we fighting so that we can support the greed, avarice, and ambition of corrupt men in power? That's the real issue when it comes to wars. And the concerning thing is that when we look at what the churches have become, this is actually a comedy routine by
Starting point is 01:43:08 a comedian, what's his name, Dustry, is that his, Drusky, is that his name? Drusky, yeah. Drusky, yeah. And, but, you know, when I first saw this, I thought it was real. Take a look at what he's doing in terms of, this is what megachurches look like. For those who are listening, he's suspended on wires. earlier this month that she could not have a baby anymore. So I impregnated her with the word of God.
Starting point is 01:43:48 To impregnate everyone with the word of God. TV Evangelists. Mega churches. I had somebody in the congregation. He's up in the air again suspended on ropes. Yeah. Again, this is such a parody. It's blasphemy, right?
Starting point is 01:44:23 And that's really what these megachurches have become. I see this guy suspended up on the wires and is like, yeah, and I've seen the Christmas programs, the big churches in Dallas and everything they do that. They got flying angels and camels in the aisles and all the rest. It's become entertainment. It's like what we began talking about. We had common sense was bought by 120,000 people in just three months in the colonies. And it was something that was serious. Today, what do we look at?
Starting point is 01:44:49 We're looking at the big sellers or Harry Potter, Hunger Games, 50 shades of gray. And that really is what the church has become. It's reflective of our society, all of that. So he says the same things that are running through, the themes that are running through Paine's common sense. And later, in his American crisis, are just as relevant now as they were 250 years ago. That is that no ruler is above the law,
Starting point is 01:45:13 no government is entitled to unchecked power, no people remain free who surrender their conscience to the ambitions of the powerful. And how do we discern all of this stuff? Well, that's where the church is. have fallen down. They have become centers of entertainment as well. So with all this happening, we had the FBI raiding a reporter's home citing a leak of classified documents. So this is the FBI, the Cash Patel FBI and the War Pete Pentagon. And of course, remember War Pete
Starting point is 01:45:46 kicked out all of the news organizations. He said, I don't want you here. I don't want you getting any information that we don't want reported, you have to authorize it with me first. And we're going to come after people if we got any information like that. It's not that they're telling everybody, you know, well, here's how you can defeat this particular weapon system. We just created a death star and this is the vulnerability. No, it isn't that at all. It's not that at all.
Starting point is 01:46:12 It's just anything that's critical of them. And so it's not a surprise at all to see this happening. This happened to a Washington Post reporter. it is kind of an interesting parallel to what we saw the Pentagon Papers, isn't it? You know, we had Daniel Ellsberg, who had secrets that he had stolen, and he passed them off to Washington Post, New York Times. I think both of them got a copy of it. And so they had to decide whether they're going to publish this stuff or not.
Starting point is 01:46:40 And it was not anything that was going to get anybody in trouble. It was about the conduct of the war and the attitude of the politicians. and the Supreme Court said, you can't come after the news organizations. You can come after the guy who stole the information and handed it over to him. But we have this thing called Freedom of the Press
Starting point is 01:47:00 that is held in contempt by Pete Hegeseth, held in contempt by Cash Mattel, because it's held in contempt by their master, Donald Trump. So again, they're investigating this leak. It'll be interesting to see how this goes because Trump has broken all of the conventions about freedom of the press and free speech, hasn't he?
Starting point is 01:47:26 If you put something out that he doesn't like, then they are going to come after you. And it appears that this is going to be coming after her. They seized her phone, took her Garmin watch, which would have information about where she has been, that type of thing. And according to Pam Bondi, she said this past week at the request of the Department of War, The Department of Justice, and it's not a Department of War, they haven't officially changed the name. That would cost billions of dollars for them to do that.
Starting point is 01:47:54 They haven't done that. This whole thing is a fantasy for them. The FBI executed a search warrant at the home of a Washington Post journalist who obtained and reporting, who was obtaining and was reporting classified illegally leaked information from a Pentagon contractor. And so I guarantee you, we'll have to wait and see what happens, but I can almost guarantee you that this is not going to be anything that's going to put anybody's lives in danger. This is going to be something that embarrasses Pete Higgs-Swell, let me tell you something that he should be embarrassed about. Grock is going to get access to classified military networks, right?
Starting point is 01:48:34 But not reporters. If you report something that a contractor has told you about their policy, they're going to try to throw you in jail. But they're going to give full access to all the classified military stuff that should be classified. That's going to go to GROC. This is how foolish HECSeth is. In December, Musk's chatbot, GROC made headlines for casually distributing the private addresses and phone numbers of everyday people, scraping data from public sources with unsettling ease, while other AI models refused.
Starting point is 01:49:07 Now this same chatbot is going to be welcomed into a far more sensitive area. The people have told us that everything must be hidden for national security. are going to now turn it over to a chatbot that doesn't have such a great record for confidentiality. This week, Pete announced that GROC will be integrated into the Pentagon's classified system later this month as part of a sweeping department-wide initiative to weaponize AI. Well, just be careful.
Starting point is 01:49:39 You may have AI weaponized against you, and all I can say. HECSeth announced the creation of a new role within the Department of Defense, the chief digital and artificial intelligence officer. As if we didn't already have enough artificial intelligence on Pentagon before they had computers. Right. It's like another one of these oxymorons. So this is a guy who used to work at Amazon's web services because they've got a lot of government contracts. So they're pulling this guy in for that.
Starting point is 01:50:10 Other AI models have their own ethics and safety issues, a futurism survey of chat bots, including chatGBT, Microsoft's co-pilot and GROC found that only the only GROC was willing to give operational suggestions for hypothetical invasion of Greenland. The rest of them refused, citing international law and other ethical issues. So there you go. It's already set to go for Greenland. Rand Paul says that Trump's Department of Justice still has not acted on his criminal referral of Fauci. What a surprise.
Starting point is 01:50:45 Are you surprised about that? And Fauci is a good example of this. He is the very embodiment of this stuff. Trump set him up as the vice roy. And maybe even, you could say even higher than that, because he bowed to Fauci. And last thing he did was to give him a medal. I know it was a commendation, not a physical medal. But that's the last thing that Trump did was to honor him.
Starting point is 01:51:12 The last thing that Biden did was to pardon him. why does Ram Paul think he's going to get a referral, a criminal referral on Fauci? There's no way the system is going to do that. The system has protected him. You might want to start with something a little bit more obvious than what Ram Paul Day. Now, what Ram Paul is saying is he was on Joe Rogan, and he said that he had been talking to RFK Jr. And RFK Jr., who does not like Fauci and really did a good job of exposing him.
Starting point is 01:51:43 He wrote a whole book about Fauci. RFK Jr. said, told Rand Paul that Fauci had allegedly told people to destroy messages that he sent them after reading. Because he has been so connected with intelligence the entire time, hasn't he? I mean, you know, going back to dark winter and other things like that, that's where the pandemic games came from. And so Rand Paul said, you can't do that. The executive branch, when they communicate, they're required. to keep their communications. They're required to do it on governmental devices.
Starting point is 01:52:19 So we have this evidence, and I've summarized it again as a criminal referral to President Trump, but they're not doing anything with it. Hmm, I wonder why. You might want to start with why was Fauci paid double what was legal for him to be paid? His salary was supposed to be capped as everybody's salary. His boss, his boss's boss, their salaries were capped beneath that of the vice. president, which is just over $200,000. Fauci's salary was higher than the president's salary.
Starting point is 01:52:53 It was well over $400,000. And so the question might start there. Why was he illegally compensated? And what other kinds of illegal compensation did he get in terms of royalties and other things like that? Start with the money. That'll get people's attention. We start talking about destroying things and you start focusing on gain of
Starting point is 01:53:15 function. Ram Paul doesn't seem to understand that the real gain of function from the COVID fraud, the COVID McGuffin, the McGuffin was there to cause to give gain of function to the government. The government is a dangerous, deadly virus that is metastasized like a cancer. And really the gain of function that came from all that stuff was the fake pandemic. That's the worst gain of function that's there. But, of course, we've got people like Ursula fond of lying, and she has always hated free speech, remember? Excellencies, ladies and gentlemen, yet Laos, your annual global risk report makes for a stunning and sobering read. For the global business community, the top concern for the next two years is not a great.
Starting point is 01:54:17 conflict or climate. It is disinformation and misinformation. Followed closely by polarization within our societies. In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. You are listening to the David Knight Show. Yeah, Ursula fond of lying. She's now saying that free speech is a virus and we need to have a vaccine for it. She wants to kill you if you exercise.
Starting point is 01:55:01 The vaccine's going to kill you, right? Just like the Trump shot. And she has always been after free speech. And of course, you know, there at Davos, she was talking to Herr Klaus. Well, Trump's going to be there talking to Herr Klaus. Just remember the last time Trump went to Davos, we wound up with a global pandemic a couple of weeks later. So just hope that doesn't happen again. So again, the first.
Starting point is 01:55:29 sign of a scoundrel, I think, and a liar is somebody who seeks to censor other people. Someone like Ursula Fond of lying. Somebody like Shlomo, the billionaire from Israel who was saying, we have to kill the First Amendment in order to protect the First Amendment. The second sign is that they are doing this all as public officials. We have a right to privacy and secrecy, which they deny. Public officials, as I said before, the very word public means that it's common to all. So if you're a public official, the information that you have should be common to all.
Starting point is 01:56:07 Everybody should know what you're doing. We should have transparency. She doesn't like that. In 2024, Ursula Fond of Lying, who is the non-popularly elected president of the European Commission, the ultra-girl boss extraordinaire, came out swinging against free speech and a white-knuckle speech in which she likened malign information, she said, to a virus. Society must be inoculated against via the vaccine of pre-bunking is what she called. That's just censorship.
Starting point is 01:56:41 But pre-bunking is actually even more than censorship. It's identifying people. It's what we talked about with the CCPA, the Coalition for Content, Providence, and authentication that Gates and Microsoft were pushing through, and they got hardware software companies as well as the people are going to tell you what's true and not, you know, the establishment media like New York Times, Washington Post, BBC. And then once they got that, the hardware and software companies are going to label your content, whether it was a picture, text, or video, or audio, they would label it and prevent you from even uploading it. That'd be
Starting point is 01:57:17 pre-bunking, right? One of the sad things to me is I can imagine a lot of people would be ecstatic about this. From a young age, you know, I'm dumb, so I like to go on the internet and argue with people. I realized most people automatically default to argumentation from authority. Well, this person over here with a lab coat or a doctorate says this. Well, does it make any sense? Well, it doesn't matter. This person who got a degree said it, so your argument doesn't matter. That's right. Yeah, they don't want to debate the facts. They don't want to do science. I remember at the beginning of this thing. I play the clip over, you know, the pandemic thing. They had six people in white lab coats and there was going to be a person speaking. Before this person speaks, they want to have the
Starting point is 01:58:03 authority of the people in white lab coats. So they had these people go out on stage, three of them go out on one side of the podium, cross their hands, stand there on their white lab coats. So you got three on each side in white lab coats, six total. And then the speaker comes out and takes the podium. That's the insanity of this. This is exactly what you're talking about, Travis. You're right. As technology evolves, we need to build up societal immunity,
Starting point is 01:58:30 she said, around information manipulation. Research has shown that pre-bunking is more successful than debunking, and that prevention is preferable to a cure. Well, I just got to say to Ursula Fond of Lying. Her actual name is Ursula Fond-Laden or Liden, I guess, but anyway, she's fond of lying. I just got to say, I've got natural immunity to government lies. I don't need to be vaccinated anymore.
Starting point is 01:58:57 Because, you know, it's like being exposed, right? According to virology, virology is the ultimate lie. But according to the science of virology, you know, you get exposed to something and you get immunity to it. Once you see how the government has lied, and we should have all seen that in 2020, once you see that,
Starting point is 01:59:18 you should have immunity to, government lies. And the fact that they forward their agenda just by labeling people and by then ranking them, which is what slow-mo was talking about. He wasn't just talking about censorship. He was talking about this pre-bunking. We're going to take something we disagree with. We're going to label that person as a terrorist or as a liar or whatever.
Starting point is 01:59:44 And we're going to stop them from being able to publish anything whatsoever. And so we appreciate your support. Thank you for that. And that's our show for today. Tomorrow we're going to have a couple of great interviews. We're going to have the doctors, Dr. Sam Bailey and her husband. Mark Bailey are going to be joining us from New Zealand. And Sam Bailey is the only person I know that has lost two careers over her integrity of opposing this COVID pandemic stuff.
Starting point is 02:00:12 She had a very lucrative career, a very successful TV presenter in New Zealand. And both she and her husband are physicians. and we're going to talk in that interview about what was done to them. You won't believe what they did and what they're still doing to them, attacking them financially. After losing their careers as doctors, because they told people the truth and losing her career also as a presenter, they have held their line and they've kept their integrity.
Starting point is 02:00:39 They're a real model for people, and they got a lot of information for you as well, not only about the vaccines, but about virology and viruses as well. So they're going to be joining us tomorrow. and Gerald Salinty is going to be joining us, and he's going to talk about his trends for 2026. I know a lot of people have been very interested to hear what Gerald Slinty thinks
Starting point is 02:01:00 is going to be happening in this very interesting year. So thank you for joining us today. Great program coming up tomorrow. Have a good day. The common man. They created common core to dumb down our children. They created common past to track and control us. Their commons project to make sure the common.
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