The David Knight Show - Thu Episode #2245: Trump Called to Kill FISA — Now Pushing an 18-Month Extension for the Iran War
Episode Date: April 16, 2026──────────────────────────────────────── [00:02:09] Trump Now Pushing "Clean" FISA Extension — Two Years After Calling... for It to Be Killed Trump is pushing an 18-month FISA Section 702 reauthorization — the exact authority he called Congress to "KILL" in 2024 because it was used against him. He now says he's willing to give up citizens' rights so the military can use it in the Iran war. ──────────────────────────────────────── [00:11:01] FISA Was Born to Sanitize Warrantless Surveillance — and Became a Blank Search Warrant for Everyone The Frank Church hearings were secretly about warrantless surveillance of Americans. FISA created a secret court that became a rubber stamp. 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Michael Flynn previously did the same using a New Age cult leader's prayer. ──────────────────────────────────────── [01:43:49] Senate Voted 40-59 to Continue Arming Israel — Same Day Netanyahu Said Vance Reports to Him Daily A motion to stop funding Israel's weapons failed 40 to 59 — the same day Netanyahu told the Israeli people that JD Vance "reported to me in detail, as the people of this administration do every day." ──────────────────────────────────────── [01:51:16] Netanyahu: JD Vance Called Me From His Plane to Report in Detail on the Negotiations Netanyahu stated Vance "reported to me in detail, as the people of this administration do every day." 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in a world of deceit.
Telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
It's the David Knight Show.
As the clock strikes 13, it's Thursday the 16th of April.
You're our Lord, 2006.
Well, just when he thought Trump couldn't get any worse,
any more authoritarian, any more of a betrayal of his campaign promises as well as the Constitution,
he's out there telling everybody,
we've got to extend FISA for another 18 months after he'd called for ending it.
And, of course, it's just another attack on the Constitution.
He says, we're going to do it for national security.
And it's worth giving up our individual rights, he says.
No, it is not.
And his attacks on free speech just keep coming.
Reason is a matter of fact, because the war and the other totalitarian,
actions the Trump administration is saying we need to take the extraordinary step of a tax
revolt in the style of David Thoreau.
We'll take a look at that.
Meanwhile, the GOP is staunchly refusing to cut any charity to Israel.
I guess we should call it not foreign aid, but we should call it money bombs because it's
money for bombs for genocide.
And Tony Ordebin will be joining us as well to talk about what's happening with the economy.
and with gold.
We'll be right back.
As I said before,
Trump is pushing what he calls a clean FISA reauthorization
as the deadline is nearing.
Folks, there's nothing at all clean about FISA.
It is a dirty denial of the Constitution
as well as search warrants.
When it was being done against him, he understood.
This is what is so characteristic of the,
of both parties, right?
They embrace the tyranny when it's coming from their tribe,
but they oppose it when it's coming from the other people,
simply because they oppose the other people,
not because they have any principles whatsoever.
It's just another lie, another betrayal of his campaign promises,
as well as a betrayal of the Constitution
and his oath to the Constitution.
Who would have thought that he would have betrayed his oath to the Constitution
when he's on his third wall?
life. And it isn't just a divorce which has become very commonplace in our society. No, no, no,
not Trump. When he divorces you or he fires you, he comes after you after the fact. Trump, who just
two years ago called on Congress to, quote, kill FISA. And he did it in all uppercase. It's now
pushing for his extension. House Republicans are divided. Some are seeking to attach the reauthorization to
the Save America Act, which, as the New American correctly points out, is an unconstitutional
proposal that would expand federal control over elections.
We don't want federal control over elections.
And of course, what does he call it?
He calls this Save America Act.
That name came from his Save America PAC that he set up to contest the election that he had
turned into a vote-by-mail election.
he's the one who did that.
He's the one who locked everybody down.
He's the one who said vote by mail.
And then he talks about it being corrupt and we got to stop it now.
Well, he should have never started it.
That is the thing to me that should put the nail in the coffin of, oh, he's a genius.
This is 4D Chess.
This is the most obvious way they can steal the election.
Yeah.
And you're the one that instituted it.
That's right.
And I said that over and over again as we're coming up to the election.
And I wasn't the only one who was saying it.
Bernie Sanders said it.
Bob Barr said it.
It's going to be massive, you know, in terms of the fraud that's there.
I always thought, and I said it from 2016, because I never would have thought that they would have gotten away with something like the lockdown.
I thought the American people would push back against it.
I overestimated their backbones.
Anyway, I said in 2016, I said the next election in 2020 is going to be a hacking contest to see who can hack the machines better.
Because everybody's going to these voting machines.
I was saying in 2016 how untrustworthy they were.
But then he added a whole new level of rigging,
and that is the vote-by-mail stuff.
And he did that.
He absolutely did that on his own.
So Johnson does not want stronger privacy protection for Americans.
As a matter of fact, if you remember,
when he was talking about ICE and people were saying,
they need to get search warrants.
They need to obey the law.
We don't need to have a Gestapo on the streets, beating people, killing people.
They need to follow the law.
You know, the end does not justify these kinds of means.
And Mike Johnson's reply was, oh, we can't get warrants.
Can you imagine all the hassle that would be?
That's the Speaker of the House for Republicans.
Folks, it's at the point now where the key goal for our country right now is to get rid
of Trump.
And it's just as key to get rid of the GOP.
And I say that knowing that the Democrats have got massive gun control bills that are
going in multiple states, Colorado, Virginia, and other places like that, they're attacking
free speech as well.
They've got their crazy stuff in terms of LGBT, in terms of mutilating minors and all the
rest of the stuff.
But people see that evil.
And from that standpoint, it's not as dangerous, because, you know, it's not as dangerous,
because it'll get opposition.
That'll wake people up to oppose some of this insanity.
Trump is the guy who puts you to sleep.
Trump is the guy who says he's behind you
so they can get around you and stab you in the back,
like with this,
FISA stuff.
And the Republicans who are enabling this,
you've got people who have
Jim Jordan,
who was once a big critic
of warrantless surveillance.
Now he's going along with all this
because it's Donald Trump.
It's pathetic what has happened to these people.
So the GOP needs to be purged.
It really does.
Get rid of these people.
Get rid of people like Jim Jordan.
Get rid of people like Mike Johnson.
Get rid of the GOP majority.
And they need to reform themselves.
Maybe get some good people in.
Maybe they learn a lesson.
Maybe.
Who knows?
But you can't continue to go down this path.
They are becoming a closeted version of the Democrat Party,
if ever there was one.
So Johnson's going to determine what comes to the floor.
And these people no longer care about their oath to the Constitution.
They no longer care about their campaign promises.
They no longer care about the issues that they used to care about before.
Again, Jim Jordan, completely corrupted by Trump in terms of the principles that are out there.
And I don't know that he ever had any.
I mean, this is another one of these guys like Trey Gowdy, who grandstander,
I guess is a grandstand.
I guess that's the right word.
Grand stood.
Well, they're all always sitting.
Yeah.
Yeah. So anyway, he did that.
He was grandstanding about Benghazi for the longest time.
Never did anything.
And Jim Jordan is cut from the same old.
They love to have show trials, dog and pony shows, and talk about things and they never do them.
And this is another example of just how unsirious Jim Jordan is.
Trump acknowledged past abuses.
You know, when he was not in power, FISA was an abusive thing, and he was concerned about it.
We should all be concerned about it because it's Mr. and Mrs. America that are out there.
FISA Title I target specific individuals inside the United States requires a warrant from the FISA court.
Section 702, by contrast, authorizes warrantless surveillance of foreign,
targets abroad, with Americans' communications also being collected.
Trump is now treating that distinction as if it were sufficient.
It's not, despite the comprehensive record of abuses that have been tied to Section 702 itself.
I think it was a big tell, by the way, you know, when we had James Clapper get on and
James Clapper said, you know, it was asked directly by Ron Wyden.
And again, I mentioned Ron Wyden.
And I'll just say this for people who are living.
listening who are going to don't write me about how bad Ron Wyden is. I know he's bad in a lot of
different ways. But he got that one thing right. And he asked him that question point blank. Can you
all remember how James Klamberhammed and Hodg and, uh, well, uh, Senator, uh, not intentionally.
And then he had Michael Hayden. He said, I blame Ron Wyden. He and his staff and every one of the
staff and senators in on that committee knew we were doing that.
knew they were violating the law in the Constitution.
And he said, and he put him on the spot.
Yeah, but you know what they didn't do?
They never had a criminal referral for him committing perjury
and his testimony to Congress, and he did.
They never had a criminal referral for him violating the law in the Constitution.
And he did.
And Michael Hayden said that he did.
Michael Hayden was upset with Ron Wyden for pointing out
that James Clapper had violated.
that. And we found out right away, within a couple of months, we had the Snowden leaks that
showed over and over again what they were actually doing. But there were never any consequences.
The statute of limitations expired. I mean, that was in 2013. Statute limitations expired
2018. It expired seven years ago. Nothing has changed. And they're still wanting to reauthorize this.
just to review real quickly, why do we have FISA?
Well, you remember the, everybody remembers the Frank Church Committee hearings on the CIA,
where they held up the heart attack gun and they talked about assassination attempts in Cuba
and other places that the CIA had been doing.
That was sensationalist misdirection because the hearings began because the government was doing
warrantless searches. They were doing it right after World War II. As soon as they crafted this
vicious thing called national security, everything must be sacrificed to national security.
Our lives, our economy, our freedoms, everything sacrificed this thing called national security,
which is not about security at all. It's about continuity of government. It's about an American
empire. It's about the military
industrial complex, or as I
prefer to call it, the Machiavellian industrial
complex. That's what national
security is about.
And so, they had these hearings, and
in the Senate, it was Frank Churchill
did it, and they had hearings at the
same time in the
House, and it was the Pike
Committee hearings. And
they were, in the House, they were looking
at the NSA. In the
Senate, they were looking at the CIA. Nobody
really covered the NSA because
you're not supposed to know that it existed at that point in time.
Everybody would joke and say it was no such agency.
That was still the case in the early 1980s when I worked with a guy who used to work for the NSA
and was then working with Texas Instruments and he would just joke about it.
I can't talk about it, you know.
And it was created by executive order NSA was of Harry Truman.
And the head of the NSA was called in by Pike.
And he said, I'd like to see your charter.
I'm not going to show that to you, Congressman.
Really?
Well, you're not even going to show it.
No, I'm not even going to show you the charter.
And the press obligingly said nothing about that hearing.
Both of those hearings were about warrantless surveillance of Americans.
And so they came up with the FISA Act, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
We said, well, we need to be able to do intelligence on foreigners and spies and that type of thing.
However, you're going to have to get a search warrant if you're going to spy on foreigners in America.
You can't do warrantless surveillance, even on foreigners that you suspect of spying without a search warrant.
And so we're going to, we don't want to have that in a public court, so we're going to create a secret court for you to get your search warrant.
And then it turned into what Rampal pointed out is a search warrant for Mr. and Mrs. Verizon.
It's just a blanket, a general warrant for them to do whatever they wish.
And it's very easy in these Star Chamber situations.
The so-called FISA Court is just a single judge.
And you go before that judge and say, I'd like to, oh, sure, you know, it's just a rubber
stamp process.
It doesn't mean anything.
And it gets even worse when you look at Section 702.
As William Benny, when I interviewed him about this, he said, well, you know, they claim
that they can do search.
with a, you know, one or two hops or whatever from the person that they're looking at,
uh, that is abroad.
And he goes, well, when you look at that, you can go one or two hops, that gets to be a
large number of people.
And it's basically not having any restriction at all.
So, um, Trump, when he was talking about it, he, he said, well, this is, he said, the military
desperately needs FISA 702.
I don't care.
You know, you can always make these, uh, cases.
need to get rid of the due process. We need to get rid of warrants. Because you know the military,
not just the military, but the police need to be able to do their work. We don't want to put
obstacles in their way. No, actually you do want to put obstacles in their way. You don't want
to have a government whose objective is to make the work of the police effortless. That creates
a police state by definition. And so he says, the military, quote,
desperately needs FISA 702.
And he went on and he said, it is vital.
And he claimed that generals support it without exception.
I don't care.
The generals are nothing but bureaucrats at this point.
And they don't respect freedom.
They don't respect the rule of law.
I mean, if you're still a general in the Trump regime,
you're somebody who's willing to follow illegal orders,
unlawful orders, orders and violation of the Constitution.
Constitution. Those are the generals that we have now. So he says, he tied it to battlefield
success, including the unconstitutional war against Iran, says the new American, and it is an
unconstitutional war. And that's not going to give them success. They're not having success.
Here's the situation, right? I thought he'd already succeeded. He keeps on as he's won the war.
And then he keeps attacking people for not helping him.
He demands to have the ability to do warrantless searches on American citizens so they can win an unconstitutional war in Iran.
How is that anything other than a non-sequitur?
While parts of Pfizer were illegal and unfortunately used against me, I am willing to risk that as a citizen in order to do what is right for our country.
I'm willing to risk your rights as citizens.
I'm willing to deny your rights as citizens.
I'm willing to destroy the Constitution for the military.
Peace president, my behind.
This guy is Lindsay Graham.
Somewhere they killed him and replaced him with Lindsey Graham and a mask, I think.
Or maybe they resurrected John McCain.
That's what I was about to say.
He didn't die.
It was all the plot.
Yeah, it's a...
This is John McCain and drag.
Yeah, Trump needs to be removed.
The GOP needs to be removed as well.
You could just start over.
It'd be great if we had third party and independent choices,
but the two parties have been so corrupt for so long
that they made sure that they weren't going to have any competition
from third parties or from independents.
So the only thing you can do is vote them out en masse
and hope that when the replacements come in,
they will have learned a lesson and there'll be different people.
I mean, that's the way I see it.
Maybe you see it differently.
But I've never been more burn it down in my life.
I wouldn't just burn this party down, the GOP.
Freedom Caucus, as a matter of fact,
is the House GOP's hard-in-lying conservative bloc, says the New American.
But they're not such hard-in-lying conservatives after all.
It turns out that although they've got 32 members,
only about 12 of the 32 will vote.
for conservative principles, the rest of them want to tow the party line.
Now, you know, this is kind of a big tent House Freedom Caucus because it includes people like
Randy Fine, this congressman, this Zionist extraordinaire from Florida, Randy Fine, who wants
to destroy people's free speech and punish, you know, create hate speech.
If you criticize the foreign government, that's Randy Fine.
He's a member of the House Freedom Caucus.
So they don't really check your credentials at the door.
Anybody can get in.
This is easier to get in than a speak easy.
Of course, Randy Fine doesn't want you to be able to speak easily, does he?
More than a dozen House GOP holdouts have expressed opposition to the extension,
citing concerns that the law undermines Americans' privacy,
if their data is inadvertently swept up while the U.S. government is collecting text
and emails of foreigners abroad.
CIA Director John Ratcliffe wants to be able to.
it. Dan Cain, the guy who is the chair, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, wants it. He describes Section
702 as critical to U.S. warfighters. I just got to say, with all the weapons and all the computers
and everything these guys have got, if they can't win a war without spying on the American people,
shut down the Pentagon. You guys haven't won a war since World War II. You ought to all be
gone anyway. You're nothing but a bunch of grifting bureaucrats, in my opinion.
grifting bureaucrats that are willing to send young Americans into the meat grinder over and over and over.
And destroy the Constitution of the rule of law.
National security folks has been the hammer that they have used to crush to dust the Constitution over and over again.
One thing that confuses me is that over time people learned that the Vietnam War was bad, that it wasn't a war worth fighting.
But we haven't seemed to come to that realization over Desert Storm or any of the conflicts in the Middle East.
I don't understand how people can't look at that and say, this was a bad war.
All these people died or were maimed for nothing.
Well, yeah, but you look at Desert Storm.
That was portrayed as a huge victory because they came in initially.
And I remember the phrase from National Review, the conservative organization very clearly,
we can and should reduce their military to rubble, right, or to twisted metal.
That was a phrase I used.
twisted metal. And they did that. And that was seen as a victory. But then the rebuilding of Iraq,
the nation building and all the rest of stuff, and all the people who died from improvised explosive
devices as we occupied that country, they forget about that loss that was there. They look at
Afghanistan. They see us going into Afghanistan and throwing out the Taliban right away. But what happened?
We stayed there for 20 years and we left in disarray, left millions of dollars,
stashed on pallets. I mean, literally the cash, the weapons. It was just unbelievable.
I see that as a defeat. But I think the general public, because the press helps the military
industrial complex, helps them with the imagery of this, they see both of those operations
as successes because we went in and blew a bunch of stuff up all at once. That is kind of
the mentality that we see happening here in Iran. If we go in and we blow a bunch of stuff up,
Set everything on fire.
That's a victory.
No, it's just a marauding band of criminals as far as I see this.
It's not justified and it's not a victory.
Chip Roy is ultimately caved on this as well.
Just so you know,
representatives Andy Biggs and Eli Crane, both of Arizona,
filed an amendment to the, in committee,
to require a warrant for person queries.
well, wouldn't that be nice?
You've got to have an amendment
for something that is
a core value of the Constitution,
the Bill of Rights?
That's where we are today, folks.
The Constitution, the Bill of Rights are dead
unless we have some kind of a writer
that's put in to resurrect part of it.
The Democrat position is shifting.
Democrats, like Representative Jamie Raskin
from Maryland, the ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee,
who previously supported
Section 702, is now calling for tighter constraints under Republican administration.
So Trump opposes it when the Democrats are in charge.
Jamie Raskin opposes it when the Republicans are in charge.
It's nothing other than partisan gamesmanship.
Neither of them have any principles.
Not Trump, not Jamie Raskin.
Jamie Raskin is looking at this and saying, well, I don't like what the Trump administration
was doing with ICE.
calls it domestic terrorism.
I agree.
I agree.
But you understand that this can happen with anyone, any political party.
And they're not willing to stand on principle and they're not willing to obey the
Constitution, but they took an oath to as a condition of their office.
Mike Johnson can afford to lose only two Republicans on a procedural vote that is taking place
Now, I think they say today, that might have been yesterday.
I don't know.
I grabbed that last night.
So I don't know how that worked out.
I don't know if that was yesterday.
I should have looked that up.
I just thought about that here.
Yeah, this was from yesterday, April 15th.
Oh, okay.
Well, I wonder what happened with that.
I guess they're going ahead, probably.
Because, you know, we have to, everything has to be moved out of the way,
including the Constitution of the Bill of Rights,
for our Machiavellian industrial complex.
So we can continue to have war.
perpetual war because war is the lifeblood of the state always has been especially as now.
Trump says it's worth risking those rights to keep a surveillance state.
That's right.
It's not a risk of your rights if you support a warrantless surveillance state.
That's the eradication of your rights.
That's why removing Trump needs to be the number one priority.
I don't know how that's going to happen, but it needs to happen.
The president had previously called the Congress to kill FISA in 2024, saying it was illegally used against his campaign.
So he only thinks about these rights when it's used against them.
Meanwhile, when we look at ICE under Trump, it's one of the, honestly, I didn't think, even though we could see these trends coming.
I honestly didn't think it would accelerate to the point where it happened in my lifetime.
It looks like the vote hasn't taken place yet.
I'm not seeing anything.
Okay.
Well, ICE, as I pointed out yesterday, the fact that you had a guy on Reddit who criticized ICE and criticized TSA.
So they decided they would come after him with a totally disconnected law about imports, so that, you know, customs and immigration and stuff.
So they came after him with a customs law, which was a total perversion, a total twist of the lie.
of the law, a lie that was there.
The same way that Trump is doing this twisting and perversion for tariffs and other things.
He doesn't have any authority to do this stuff.
So it's a total prevarication.
They came after the guy and Reddit went public with it and they kind of laughed at it.
Coming after this guy who's never gone abroad, he's never imported or exported anything.
And you're trying to come after him with a custom law.
We know that what you're coming after him for is his speech.
and they just ignored it.
And so what they did was they were embarrassed about that,
but they come back and do it secretly,
secretly in a grand jury,
trying to get that there.
So this is the Trump administration.
I have absolutely no respect for anything
that has to do with our rights,
our right to not have warrantless searches,
our right to be able to speak freely.
He hates the free press.
He sues the free press over free.
frivolous things.
You know, a $10 billion loss that he's got over the birthday card that was real.
It's another example of his ego coming after people.
But he absolutely despises the free press.
He has no respect for the free exercise of religion.
He set up a religious liberty commission and then kicked off somebody who was not a Zionist
because she has the question.
She said, so what's the, you're going to say that anti-Semitism, that racism, it's
racism to criticize the foreign government, they kicked her off. He doesn't support free exercise
religion, individual free speech. He doesn't support free press. He despises every aspect of the
Constitution. He doesn't respect the Second Amendment either. Fortunately, I can ban whatever guns or
accessories I feel like I should be able to do. Yeah, this is the weaponization of power. It's not
lawfare. Let's call it what it is. The weaponization of power, the lawless weaponization.
of power. That is what characterizes the Trump administration. Government critics are not
suspects. Free speech is not a crime. So the legal director of the Foundation for Individual Rights,
which is an expression, which is, goes by the acronym Fire. He's absolutely right. Meanwhile,
you have, just to show how politicize the Pentagon is, you got a left-wing congresswoman,
Tammy Duckworth, who I disagree with on pretty much everything. I guess.
guess. And, but she is a, um, uh, double amputee or more. I, I don't know how many limbs she's lost,
but she was, and she was a military person. She was a vet who, uh, lost, um, both legs. And, uh,
she's got her arms, but she lost both legs. And she's a member of Congress. She's had issues
with the army secretary, Dan Driscoll. She, uh, pushed back against his confirmation and voted
against him. She pushed back against confirmation of Pete Hegset and voted against him. And so now it's
payback time. Somebody had posted something on the Pentagon's social media, showing a picture of her and
doing a profile of her time in the military. They didn't like that. So Dan Driscoll shuts all the
social media down for the army. So this is where you, it's all political, right? I don't like
your politics. I don't like your speech. I don't like Amy Dougworth's politics.
either. But
it's free speech
these people have a problem. I have some bad
news about probably every
war hero from about, you know,
World War II back, maybe even forward
how they would feel about the policies that are
going on right now. Yeah.
If you think Alvin York
would be on board with what's happening now.
Sergeant York, yeah.
Well, you know, Trump promised to deport a million
migrants a year, but
they haven't even come close to that.
even with all of the over-the-top-topo tactics that they had.
And again, if you wanted to, and I've said this from the very beginning,
I hate the means that they did.
And part of it is the fact that he's got these goals that then turned into quotas.
That's why they're doing the types of things that they're doing.
But it's easy to get people to self-deport if you stop the welfare magnet.
Instead, the Trump administration has increased the welfare magnet,
Especially when you look at Minnesota, what became the raise on debt for what they're doing there.
Well, we got all these Somalis who are here, and they are engaged in massive fraud.
Well, they didn't come across the border.
They came in as refugees, and the Trump administration nearly doubled the amount of money for refugees.
Raised it by 80%.
Went from $6 billion to $11 billion, that program.
So they want more of that.
So they're giving more money to people like the Somalis to come in.
At the same time, the Trump administration, all this stuff broke, really, during the first Trump administration.
He did nothing about it, the first Trump administration.
I talked about it.
But he didn't do a thing about it and didn't mention anything about it.
And they were not looking at it this time until Nick Shirley did his investigation.
Then after it got some attention, they started talking about it, but they still didn't go in after these people who were involved in fraud.
Instead, they start going around and picking fights with people who were being.
been here peacefully and lawfully for the longest time.
They leave the worst of the worst in place while they're doing this and violate the Constitution
as well.
But it's not just the Republicans who are against free speech, of course.
California, speaking of Nick Shirley, has just put in what many people are characterizing
as the Stop Nick Shirley Act that would penalize journalism, investigative journalism like
he did, because he was finding welfare fraud in California.
So their response was to pass a law to criminalize that.
A bill that would criminalize, he said, investigative journalism with misdemeanors,
with $10,000 fines, with imprisonment, and with content takedown.
Under AB 2624, government-funded entities like the Somali-learing daycare centers, right?
They can't even spell learning at the daycare center.
Would be protected from being exposed if they operated inside of California.
California. And you know, this is not really something that's new. Remember,
for over a decade, David DeLyden with the Center for Medical Progress has been fighting
the abuse of power that began with Lala Harris. When he exposed the trafficking and baby body
parts that Planned Parenthood was doing, they did nothing to Planned Parenthood. Instead, what they
did was they came after the guy who exposed it. David Delighton. He has fought that since 2015,
and he just finally got that settled
and they didn't do anything about it.
But it was Lala Harris,
who was Attorney General in California at the time.
She came after him.
Then she became senator
and the person who replaced her,
Javier Bissera,
continued coming after David Adelaideon.
And of course, she became vice president
and the Biden administration
and Javier Bouserra
was rewarded with being put in charge of HHS.
And so that's where we stand with this stuff.
I think we're,
Do we have Tony?
We do have Tony.
You've also got a couple of comments.
I want to run through real quickly.
Okay.
We've got I'm Marty and we always want to thank Marty.
Yes, thank you.
Very faithful supporter.
And he says Donald is the cholesterol president clogging the world's main artery.
That's right.
Yeah.
The world is going to be global economy is going to have a stroke soon.
We're well on our way.
And Mark on YouTube says, good afternoon from Berlin, Germany.
Well, good morning from the United States.
To see you.
Tennessee.
Yeah.
And Marky Mark from New Jersey, thank you very much.
He says, how are the press friends of the military industrial complex when they constantly
criticize its programs and weapon systems?
Would friends of the military industrial complex do that?
Well, they want to have access.
Everybody wants to have access.
And, yeah, they are, I mean, you look at the military, what they say.
And they really are pulling their punches, I think.
I also think it's part of it.
It's not the kind of direct diplomacist that I am, but I see even the establishment media really pulling the punches even on this illegal war that's going on now.
I also see it as part of the, you know, ratcheting effect.
Most people, or at least people on, you know, the Republican side of things,
hate the press to the point where anything they say against something,
they'll immediately run in the opposite direction.
They've been exposed over and over again as such highly partisan hacks
that Republicans basically, like I said, you know, the press says one thing,
they do the opposite.
And we also have NM8 on YouTube.
He says, Adi Murphy is flipping in his grave.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, they couch these wars.
They don't really come after the direct issues with it.
And, you know, they'll talk about, well, that's pretty amazing that, you know, Trump
hit a new record.
I mean, we never had over a trillion dollars in the budget for the military before.
And now he wants to increase it immediately again by 50%.
But, you know, hey, well, that's it, you know.
And, I mean, to me, it's a very mild response, if any at all.
all that we get from these people. Yes. And again, DG8, thank you. He says, David, Trumped
out at Truth Social Post, stating I'm willing to give up rights and privileges as a citizen
for our military and country to pass FISA 702. You're giving up my rights. That's on
Constitution. That's right. Yeah. I'm willing to give up your life for my war. I'm willing to
give up your rights for my military strategy that I have there. He's more than willing to
give up our lives for his military operation warp speed as well.
Oh, you know, that was something that's also vital for the military.
Let's not forget that.
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And joining us now is Tony Arderman.
It's always great having Tony on.
And, of course, he has Wise Wolf Gold.
And if he's also set up David Knight, Dog, Gold, which would you take you to Wise Wolf.
And I really do appreciate Tony's support of this program.
And it's always great to talk to Tony about what's happening with the economy.
There's a lot that is happening with the economy now, as we all know.
What's on your radar there, Tony?
As I was saying off air, you know, not without comedy here in this dystopia.
I was looking at an article that came out that Janet Yellen was interviewed.
And of course, she was head of the Federal Reserve, that she was the treasurer of the United States.
And she came out and said, you know, if you print, if you create currency to service debt, you also create inflation.
And then she went on to say that we're turning into a banana republic.
So I thought that was interesting.
Someone who actually pushed us over the cliff was saying that we're going to fall.
So, yeah, I think that's where we are right now.
And I think Gore Vidal called us years and years ago.
We were a banana republic with nuclear weapons, unfortunately.
Can you imagine what he say about ice and the Iran war now?
But, you know, speaking of Janet Yellen, of course,
one of the key things that she was doing was running the printers,
the printing presses and creating more money.
And they quietly have started doing that again.
Let me just play this real quickly.
Inflation is back with the Fed admitting money growth doubled in February.
Note that is before the war and the spike in oil prices.
Will we look back with nostalgia upon Biden inflation?
last week, the Fedonnell's February money growth doubled to $198 billion up from just 82 in January,
as precisely double the $93 billion monthly run since Trump took office.
Isn't that interesting?
I don't know if you heard that or not, Tony, but he was saying that the money growth doubled from January to February.
They've turned on the printing presses again, and we all know what that means.
You know, you have a lot of economists, a lot of the Austrian schools say,
Well, inflation is only about the money supply.
Well, that certainly is a big part of it.
But we've also added now the obvious inflation that is going to be there once you cut off the supply of energy.
That's a value-added tax that raises a price of everything.
And again, when you make something scarce, supply and demand is going to raise the price.
So that's where we are right now.
They've turned on the printing presses even before this Iran war happened.
And with the Iran War, we're going to get.
a major amount of price inflation as well.
Yeah, that's the hidden tax and everything.
And, you know, economists are wrong about so much.
I mean, obviously, but they're not pricing in currency expansion.
I've used a metric for years.
I'm sure it's wrong now, but it was like, I think since 1980,
there's 56 times more currency on Earth today than there was then.
I woke up this morning and I actually did a little bit of research because it just came to my mind.
this is the subject that I was thinking about was the currency expansion versus GDP.
If you look at the world economy, David, it's about $126 trillion, if you talk about like
companies and assets and things like that supposedly.
But if you go and you search further, like what is the actual valuation?
If you add in the currency, it's $800 trillion.
So there's that much currency and wealth funds as opposed to what actual businesses are.
So then I went and looked at the metrics of gold as a share of the world's economy in 1979 versus now.
And it was like 20% of the share of the world economy in 1979.
Now it's three.
So you've got all this new currency creation, which is supposed value.
But we know it's really not.
It's just the, it's an extension of central banks.
It's an extension of the Fiat system, which is a, a cyclone.
the logical valuation, but not real value.
And that's the house of cards.
So as soon as you add something,
that's like gas on a fire, too,
if you have currency expansion plus the rise in the price of energy,
like if you cut off the supply chain,
and then you have rising prices with currency expansion,
that's a recipe for absolute disaster.
So I don't think,
and that's a surefire way to even cut off the, you know,
the sequence of a,
events that usually happens when you have an economic downturn is you have the price of energy
will come down because there's less usage.
You know, the price that we saw that in the 2008-2009 great financial crisis.
So oil came down like $40 a barrel.
I don't think that'll happen now.
So we'll have inflation with rising energy prices, which...
Well, the problem with this is because this blockage has been so major, this is worse than the
OPEC oil embargo considerably.
Because what they're seeing is demand is going down for oil.
People are already starting to cut off because it's getting expensive.
And they think this is going to happen over a very long period of time.
So people are starting to, you know, cut down consumption.
And yet it's still going up significantly because, you know,
the price is still rising even though demand is falling because this blockage is so bad.
And we've got a JOP senator, Roger Marshall, who's,
says the Iran war is worth higher gas prices. He said, your national security is even more important
than your pocketbook. Again, it doesn't, whether it's, you know, FISA, your rights are not important.
The military's objectives are, and they say they can't win this without being able to spy on
everybody without a warrant. And same thing with this. National security. What is national security?
Is the economy not something that is a part of national security? Wasn't the thing that helped us?
to win wars, having a vital economy.
If we're going to strangle the economy,
we're not going to be able to win wars.
And if we're going to strangle our rights,
there isn't any point in us winning the wars, is there?
What is that for that scene from Shrek with Lord Barcliffe when he comes out and says,
some of you may die.
That's a risk I'm willing to take.
It's the national security state, David.
I mean, since 1947, you had that document, NSC-68,
they created the CIA, the NSA, the Air Force, all this, all the, the national security apparatus
was 1947 and onward.
And since then, they preserved themselves.
It has nothing to do with the nation.
It has nothing to do with our liberty or our security or our prosperity.
It's secondary to that.
And that's the same.
Does anybody think that the prosperity of the United States is the goal of our central bank
overlords of the Federal Reserve?
absolutely not. They're self-serving. The national security state serves itself. Even in
the detriment of the American people, that's for sure. Was that, was that group of things there?
Was that where Truman created the NSA in his executive order? I know he did it. Okay. Yeah. There you
goes. The guy that gave us the idea that we're going to become policemen of the world laid all the
foundation of the police state at home. This is what we were warned about, you know, the
instruments, the means of defense abroad
will become instruments of tyranny at home.
And that's what the national security state is.
It's an instrument of tyranny at home.
And now they're openly saying it.
And they're not getting any pushback.
That's the amazing thing on this.
So yeah, it's worth it.
If we crash the economy,
if we destroy individual liberty and the rule of law,
it's all going to be done for the national security state,
which is really nothing other than a continuity of government
for the Machiavellian industrial complex.
yeah it's long since abandoned whatever you ever had a mission of protecting the american people
it's completely self-serving at this point the wars we fight are not for the american people or
prosperity clearly we're not doing well and you know if you if you back out all of the
funds that were printed we're in a real economic crisis right now and we will be headed
into one it's going to be far worse that we didn't do the corrections that we overspent and uh you
know, built things that shouldn't have been built.
We funded things that shouldn't have been funded.
And that's going to generate, it might be a generational downturn here.
And whenever this does, when the bottom finally drops out of this, which I, I don't wish for, but I don't see any other way around it at this point.
That's right.
I don't either.
As a matter of, I love this headline from Brian Shulhavi at Health Impact News.
He said, the entire world is watching an insane president destroying the global financial economy.
This is what Roger Marshall, when he reduces all this, well, it's just about higher prices of the gas pump.
You know, what a myopic tunnel vision of what is really happening here.
It truly is amazing.
And I've seen some people who are trying to make excuses for Trump and say, well, this is really 40 chess because he's going to have the global oil supply cornered here.
Well, you know, as we were talking off air, you know, the Chevron executive says, well, your prices are going to go up.
You know, there's a global shortage on this stuff.
This is how the marketplace works.
I mean, if somebody is desperate in Asia, they can't get any oil or gas at all.
They're going to bid the price up.
And guess what?
Chevron's going to sell it to them at a higher price.
And you're going to pay more money here domestically.
It doesn't matter that we've got American oil that is being pulled out of the ground.
It's going to be sold somewhere else.
And the price is still going to go up if we've taken a 20% hit to the world's oil supply.
And that's the thing these guys don't understand.
This is indicative of the insanity of Trump's tariff program from the very beginning.
The idea that we, oh, well, we got to have made in America on everything.
And that just doesn't work when you cut off the supplies that you need to make things in America,
whether you're cutting off the supply of aluminum or you're cutting off the supply of semiconductors
or he's cutting off the supply of energy.
How are you going to make stuff in America without these vital things?
This is what Trump and his clowns don't understand.
Well, maybe they do.
I mean, you don't reset the supply chain with extortion.
Yeah, that's not a good start.
And you realize, too, that I was just listening to an interview with Jim Rickards.
And he said, look, the first wave of the impact on the energy market in Asia
It starts about two days from now.
Because those ships that left the straight-hormuz,
it takes about six weeks to get to South.
So all the ships that aren't coming now,
and they've offloaded it.
You're talking about all that crude oil that supplies so much of the world.
And you go back to the 90s, we outsourced everything.
That's part of the free trade, the God that these so-called conservatives worshipped.
And they worship this free trade.
Everything's got to be free trade.
we've got to get rid of barriers and tariffs.
And look, we've seen the clown show that that is tariffs now.
So we can't really make that argument anymore, I guess, and with rationality.
Well, and you can't just turn off.
You can't just abruptly do a U-turn.
It's like you're going down the highway at 100 miles an hour,
and you decide you're going to do some kind of a Rockford turn, you know?
And this has been going on for decades.
We outsourced everything.
There was, who was that senator from the 90s?
It doesn't matter whether you make computer.
chips or potato chips.
Well, you can buy them from anywhere.
Well, the problem is, is that it takes like 12 different countries to make a Patriot
missiles.
And this is going back to the 90s.
It probably takes more now, but all of those intricate supply chains get disrupted.
And especially when you have rising costs of energy, and all over the, especially in Asia
and other places, it makes so much.
We've not even begun to feel the impact of the stupidity of all of this, which seems to me,
you know, self-inflicted on purpose, you know, just to create the chaos. And if you get the
4D chess people, which is ridiculous that we're going to somehow take over the world's oil
game, you know, like we're going to start supplying that. And maybe we will supply a little.
But what use is that when, you know, 30% or 40% of the world's economy goes into a massive slump
and prices rise and there's broken supply lines? I mean, that's just chaos. That's not, that's not
the art of the deal or whatever that's supposed to be.
Yeah, absolutely right. And you started talking about military stuff and how the supply chain
for the Patriot missiles is distributed over several different countries.
Even when you look at stuff like rare earth materials, right, minerals, and that is something
that we have access to in the U.S. But guess what? That infrastructure has to be built.
I mean, I've interviewed a guy that has a company. That's, you know, all that they do.
But as he's saying, it's going to take us five years to get this stuff together.
He said, we can do it, but it takes a while for us to put together.
It's all impulsive.
It's all rash.
And they don't think about anything.
Nothing is planned.
It's just like, like I was saying before, you know, you're driving down the road at 100 miles an hour.
You decide you've got to go the other direction.
Just pull up the handbrake and start to spin it around.
But it's going to keep spinning.
And you're going to go spinning right off the road.
And that's what Trump is doing.
He's like, well, it's just, you know, we're steaming down the road here.
We've got all the manufacturing is distributed all over the world.
But now we're just going to.
say, as of tomorrow, we're only going to make things in America.
And it just doesn't work that way.
You just cut off your supplies for being able to make anything.
Well, it's a heck of a way to get to the endgame of the Great Reset for Agenda 2030.
It's a heck of a way to get there.
I mean, if you wanted to, we've talked about this the last couple of times I've been on it.
If you wanted to create a global energy crisis, if you reverse engineered the perfect plan,
well, this is pretty much it.
You just choke off that one point.
You make it diplomatically impossible to restart.
You just do enough damage.
And then, you know, the wounds also are greatly self-inflicted.
I don't know what the end goal here for the dollar is, but it's not looking great,
especially the petro dollar.
I mean, just in a fail swoop with Iran charging tolls for the straight-of-hor moves in Bitcoin,
which didn't get as much news as I thought it should have.
That is a massive move.
And yes, they have to be the crude purchased in.
then Chinese you won, and then the toll is paid in Bitcoin.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
And you got to do this transaction.
You got just a little bit of time to do the handshaking there to get that paid in
Bitcoin.
You get blown out of the water.
So, yeah, that's absolutely right.
And yet, you know, Tony, I saw, I'm looking for it here.
I can't find it.
It was an article, I think it's from the Wall Street Journal.
And I wanted to find it because I wanted to get the woman's name.
I hadn't seen it before.
But she's saying, is this.
the end of the petro dollar? No, this is going to strengthen the petro dollar. And it's like,
what? What are you talking about? And so I had to read that article and saw that headline,
but her whole premise is that this is going to be, it is and is going to continue to be a massive
victory in Iran. And it's like, well, okay, your fundamental premise is wrong.
That's not going to get. I've heard several of these national security types floating around.
I don't know. They have group think for sure. And it's
It's just like that senator saying, you know, well, this is the price you pay for, you know,
a dismantling a nuclear armed Iran or something.
I don't know.
That doesn't register to me.
You know, when I wake up in the morning, I don't think, you know, I just got to keep Iran from getting the bomb.
Like, that never occurs to me that that's something important.
You're talking about an 80-plus-year-old technology.
No, I don't think I can, I don't think I'm going to waste blood and treasure
trying to keep somebody from creating an 80-plus-year-old technology or recreating that.
we're in 2026.
Well, they just killed the leader who had declared it to be a fatwa against it, right?
That's the first guy they killed, was the guy that was going to, that said, this is not compatible
with my version of Islam.
And he's over the Shia Muslims, which is not nearly as big as the Sunni Muslims, but he was saying no bomb for us.
And so they killed that guy.
Now the people replacing him don't have that concern.
no you went down the ladder it's more radical as you go down yeah and it's just like what we did in
Iraq in real time we're still we'll get rid of Saddam so now you don't have that monster you have
10,000 monsters that you also funded and you know the entire country goes into chaos an entire
civilization is dismantled because of those type of thoughts that's a that's a very neocon
view of the world very Trotskyite revolutionary view of the world that's right
What was the quote about neocons?
They're often clever and ever wise.
That's something that can continue to do that.
I remember just coming back from Iraq is like 2004 or five.
And I remember just thinking to myself about Iran.
I was like, they really just want a saber rattle to get the price accrued up.
And I watched that over and over again while Netanyahu would all, you know, every couple of years,
you'd visit the U.S. and say that they're two weeks away from getting the bomb.
I watched this over and over again.
And I just thought, you know, I think at the end of the day, they like to just saber-rattle a little bit, kind of leave you guessing, get the price of crude to jump. And then they would offload that. That's the way I looked at it. Of course, we've, we said, hold my beer, you know. We went in and said, we'll make the price of, we'll double it. You know, when I just get a 10 or 20 percent margin, we're going to go ahead and double this. And I don't think that it's anywhere near the top end of what's the, you know, the consequences here, David, on the price of crude.
That's right. Well, I guess when we talk about the price of crude and you talk about the price of our politicians,
you know, Miriam Adelson, these other billionaires who are buying up Congress and buying other Republicans,
she just dropped in another $20 million in the Republican coffers. So it's still happening.
But we've got a Swiss bank that's calling for $6,000 gold by the end of the year.
This is Union Bank Care, Previ, I guess a UBP. It's a Swiss bank.
And, you know, they talk about the sell-off.
but, and we've had a lot, we've had a lot of articles about people saying, well, you know, gold just didn't go up the way we thought it was going to go up during a crisis. And yet the reality is, and I think we talked about this. I know I talked about it. I think it was with you. What was really happening was doing what it was supposed to do, providing liquidity for people who had invested in it. And now they've got, they're seeing the stock market go down or they're worried because they can't cover their bills in the Middle East because they've lost their source of income.
So what they're doing is they're selling gold into that.
Of course, we also had the big dump and pump that happened with the French central bank.
They wanted to get their gold out of the U.S.
And who knows, maybe the U.S. doesn't have their gold.
So they said, oh, okay, well, then just give us the money for the gold if you've already sold it.
And so they took the money.
And then they bought gold in Europe.
That's the way they transferred it without having to put it on a boat or a plane and ship it.
They just sold it in the U.S. and re-bought it in Europe.
And so that had a bit of a whiplash in the marketplace.
They wound up making, I think, $15 billion off of the exchange because with a massive cell of gold,
it dumped things, and then they were able to buy it at a cheaper price.
So that's the kind of things we've been seeing as this has happened.
Well, you've got to have a little bit of perspective.
too. I mean, it's
2026 and
2004, gold was
half the price that it is now.
That's right.
It's two years later, folks.
And if you look at
the crisis
that we were already in
factored into the price of gold,
and when the war initially
kicked off, gold jumped.
It did what it normally does
in a time of uncertainty,
geopolitical tension. It does what it does.
But this particular
crisis has to do with oil.
And so a lot of those funds were liquidated to go into crude because it's just commodity versus commodity.
But if you're talking about really factoring in, like all the fundamentals are still there.
And the terrible ifs, as Winston Churchill said, the terrible ifs accumulate, you talk about all the unknowns.
Those are being factored into gold.
So, I mean, really just rationally ask yourself, you know, people, I love the headlines.
that comes through this because a lot of it's just like, oh, you think so.
Like one of the UBS people was saying that gold is, with geopolitical uncertainty and inflation,
gold still looks like a good bet.
Well, of course it does.
I mean, that's going to be fine, given those two things over the next five or ten years.
So I don't, long term, David, you know, with metals, gold, silver, platinum, you know,
these are things that are precious metals for a reason.
They're rare.
it takes a lot of energy to get them out of the ground,
it takes a lot of, you know, capital.
And that's what they represent.
They represent work.
And, you know, the governments around the world are going to continue,
even with the IMF is talking about this,
the international monetary funds,
talking about the sovereign debt that held by different banks
and the bonds are in real trouble,
because they hold so much debt.
So what they're going to have to do,
these banks are going to have to print.
They're going to create new currency.
we just talked about the currency expansion.
So what's going to happen to the prices of these commodities?
Well, they're going to go up denominated in those currencies.
I mean, you don't have to be a genius to figure that out.
So long term, I still think, you know, gold's cheap right now.
If you really look at where we are in this great reset decade and the acceleration that is happening.
So I don't think that we're overpriced.
I don't think we're in a bubble when it comes to gold, especially silver.
We've already seen what silver hit 120 bucks an hour.
you know, back a few months ago.
So I don't think that we're near the top of anything.
It's hard to price in the apocalypse.
It's hard to really know what the price of anything is anymore
because you don't have true metrics or numbers
or to issue in the fraud, you know,
to account for the fraud that's everywhere.
So I would say I think we're come severely underpriced.
Again, gold used to be 20% of the world economy.
It's about three now.
And I would ask you if that makes sense.
sense. Well, the people's Bank of China, the Central Bank of China, agrees with you. They've been
jumping in on these lower prices. And of course, there's been a massive inflow into ETFs.
I would just caution people about ETFs. I don't trust those. I don't trust the tokenized gold
that is out there either. Get physical, not tokenized. And because essentially they're just like
the derivative, the junk stuff that was circulating about real estate when we had the
Great recession that happened with that.
But a lot of money going into ETS, which are coming out of the Shanghai Gold Exchange,
and the People's Bank of China is buying into this, what they consider to be a pause before the resumption of this stuff going up,
because all the fundamentals are still the same, as you point out.
Yeah, that's not going away, especially you have the decline of the dollar and the death of the petro dollar.
I mean, the world's resetting ongoing.
gold. And you can see it, and I've mentioned this many times, but I think this is one of the key
indicators of where we're headed is the Hong Kong gold exchange, the Shanghai gold exchange.
Hong Kong, more importantly so, because they're building storage facilities for, like near the airport,
for physical gold. So the world will transact more and more, especially long term with holdings
and currencies. They'll be backed by physical gold. I think that's just where we're.
we're headed. And it's, it's, it's a relatively new trend. I mean, we're only talking since
2009 when this, when this started to go in the other direction, there was a massive sell-off
in the, in the late 70s, 80s, when gold peaked and, you know, central banks got out of
gold. But after 2009, it's been a massive frenzy of buying, especially since 2022. So we, we're just
really starting to see, uh, the next way.
of what the world monetary system is, David, and it's not going to be the dollar.
I agree.
When we look at this new monetary system, you've got a lot of different competing ideas,
and it's interesting that every one of these competing monetary systems needs to have gold
in order to give itself credibility.
So whether you're talking about some of these token coins, stable coin is now talking about
connecting up with a digitized gold type of thing, they need that gold or the idea that they
have gold to back it up. Again, these tokenized stable coins that are connected to gold are going
to be risky, just like these ETFs are going to be risky. Who audits the fact they've got gold,
right? We've seen this whole story before with the Federal Reserve. This is just fractionalizing
it into a lot of different players that are out there. But everybody wants to say, yeah, we're solid.
We're backed with gold. So it's like, why accept any substitute? Go for the direction. It's an issue of
trust. Yeah. That's right. We've, that trust. We've, that trust. We've, we've, we've, we've, that
trust, you know, that's the entire world economy, any sort of real trade is based off of trust.
And we've lost that.
The world is less and less trusting of governments and institutions.
But we used to be able to trust companies, David, to say, I mean, for all their scamminess and grifting,
we used to be able to say, well, what's, you know, good for GM is good for America and vice versa.
So they used to be the mantra.
let's make a better, cheaper car.
Let's make a more affordable unit.
And then you get CEOs like we just mentioned briefly,
the Chevron executive who's saying,
well, you know, I think Americans should drive less.
That's like, you know, it's like Colonel Sanders saying,
you know, you probably shouldn't eat as much chicken.
You know, it's just really bizarre.
And that's the way that these,
they just institutional type of thinking, you know,
it is true.
It's not so much a conspiracy.
they just all think alike.
It's just a really strange,
instead of that guy wondering,
well,
I wonder how we can have more energy exploration
or make things more efficient or whatever.
It's just,
no,
just drive less.
Yeah,
yeah.
But you're,
and again,
let's manage everybody into nothing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But he's this executive with Chevron.
It's,
it's just,
that's where we are.
And I think you can't even trust the companies
to be on your side anymore as far as like,
let's get costs down or let's make this better.
I don't think you can really,
That's to the small entrepreneur.
And I think emerging, some of the other economies that are emerging around the world,
there's energy there as far as innovation.
We're going to see that.
It's just not in this country, not as much like we used to.
I think it's a mindset.
They've marched through the institutions, whether you're talking about Marxists or
whether you're talking about these globalists, they've marched through there
because they have made sure that the people who think like them are going to be the ones
who are in charge.
It's like that Chevron executive.
And so they want to tell you, well, you're going to have less food.
less travel, less clothes, less of a car.
You're not going to have a home.
You're going to own nothing and you'll be happier with all this stuff.
This is managing us down into nothing.
And I've said before, you know, Donald Trump is the Manchurian candidate for these people.
He is the one who is accelerating all this stuff.
They've got to get this done by 2029.
Donald Trump, look at how he's accelerating everything and bringing it all together.
He began his second administration.
I mean, we still had not recovered from the damage that was.
done in 2020 and he led the way. And they were all doing the same thing at the same time. How did that
happen? Is that not a conspiracy? I mean, think about it. A conspiracy, though, the word literally
means they're all breathing together, right? Were they not all breathing together when they were
telling us that we all had to wear a mask so we couldn't breathe? They're all breathing together,
they're all conspiring together to do the same thing at exactly the same time. Then we get Donald
Trump in again. And what does he do? He starts a global economic war. That's what the sanctions and
the tariffs are all about. It's about a global economic war, which is always a prelude to a real war.
You start out with the sanctions and other things like that. Then you move on to regular warfare.
He's doing all these things, checking all the boxes and doing it very rapidly.
This idolatrous nature of the people that put him in office, especially the second time,
you know, you kind of get what you put in. You reap what you sow.
I think somebody had to make a meme, David, of the, you know, the clown is getting dressed up,
like the four sequences of the clown as more clown makeup.
It's like, well, you know, Trump's a Christian, you know, Trump supports Jesus.
And then like, no, Trump's divine.
And then Trump is Jesus.
It's like, you went, you went full MAGA.
So don't ever go full MAGA because we've seen the, we've seen the consequences.
It's really unfortunate.
But that's where we are, you know, and the disintegration of the narcissistic ego of this guy.
coupled with, you know, the military industrial complex and the Pete Heggsets of the world.
It's not looking good for the good old U.S.
I got a clip, Tony, that haven't played yet in the show.
And Pete Hegset is leading people in a prayer.
And this is a prayer that is word for word straight out of pulp fiction.
He even makes it up because like from first to Seder or whatever, chapter one.
And he starts reading this.
And it was straight out of Pulp Fiction.
He did Ezekiel 25.
17.
Yeah, yeah.
By the way, which is not, yeah, that's made up in the mood.
It truly is amazing.
It is pulpit fiction.
That's what his theology is.
And it's really crazy.
That's where we are right now.
But getting back to gold,
you've kind of seen things have kind of stabilized a little bit
over the last week or so,
haven't they?
Yeah, they have stabilized some.
Silver has broken 80.
I'm really glad for the market volatility.
not there. I mean, you can have these wild swings, but it causes so much stress down the chain.
I think it's better just we inch along. We see the loss and purchasing power of the dollar.
You continue to accumulate and get you some gold and silver, especially the physical.
You know, I mean, there's nothing necessarily wrong with ETFs. I don't own any.
I want the physical. I don't want the counterparty risk. But you will see prices. I mean,
on a long enough timeline, prices will go up against the dollar, but that's not what it's about.
out. You're talking about being outside of the system, which is going to be so very important.
I mean, the Iranians with Bitcoin are learning that. And, of course, they had like, I think
there were like six or seven percent of the global mining was done in Iran prior to the war in Bitcoin.
That might be another reason why we hit them the way we did. The way we did. I don't know.
Definitely there's an economic warfare underpinning all of this. So the best thing that you can do is just be
outside of it and have, you know, something that belongs to you. Those metrics I gave at the
beginning of the interview, those are real. Like the world economy, and you can go look this up,
it's like estimated $126 trillion or whatever it is. But if you add in currencies, it's $800 trillion.
So that's how much currencies and bonds and treasuries and things that aren't real are propping
up the system. So you've got to look to what are actual real commodities that?
that human beings have always used and what produces something.
You start, you start factoring that in alone and the world economy shrinks.
It goes down.
I mean, things that actually make something, you know, and if you extract ideology out
of that and companies that have so much of the global share, well, no wonder we haven't,
you know, made innovations or anything in the last 50 plus years.
No wonder, it's so limited because of this group think.
Yeah.
Where, you know, if you're executive of a fuel company, tell people to buy less fuel.
that's bizarre. You know, I think that's where we are, though. And the best way to hedge against that
is to not have counterparty risk and have something that's finite, in my opinion, especially in this
reset, which we're in right now. I agree. I agree. Yeah. When we're looking at the central bank
digital currency and everybody was warning about this, and one of the things they're warning about
was getting rid of local banks because, you know, how are you going to have the ability to pay cash
if the companies don't have any place where they can go deposit their cash into their account
so they can now process it.
You've got to have local banks that are there.
And it also factors into being able to get loans and that type of thing.
And so the White House is out there putting out their paper for stable coins because, you know,
we've really replaced the central bank digital currency with a crony capitalist digital currency.
That's what, in my opinion, people like Lutton.
Nick and the Trump brothers are,
instead of the Hunt brothers,
we've now got the Trump brothers that are out there to mess with things.
But,
you know,
these guys are out there trying to set up a different stable coin thing.
And Eric Trump even has,
you know,
gone to some of these Gulf State conferences and saying,
banks are going to be gone in 10 years.
And now the bank lobby has finally awakened to this.
It's taken them a very long time.
You know,
they didn't see the day.
danger in CBDC, and they didn't push back against that. And now they're starting to see the
handwriting on the wall, that they want to push banks out and push this stable coin thing. And that is,
to me, another impetus to make sure that I got physical gold that I don't want to have in silver
because I don't want to be locked into this system of stable coins that they're going to
impose on us. But they're going to be the ones making a lot of money off it. They will put some
gold in, perhaps. Who knows if there'll be as much gold as they say they'll be.
But they also see this as a way of offloading their worthless treasury bills.
And I say worthless because, you know, I mean,
trillion, how can we pay back, ever pay back the trillions of dollars that are there?
But they can offload these treasury bills to individuals
because the central banks are saying, I don't want that stuff anymore.
Well, just look at what tether does.
You know, you talk about the public-private partnerships.
I mean, they do prop up, start buying the treasuries.
That's kind of the whole system of how tether works.
works, but look what else Tether does.
$187 billion market cap, by the way.
That's Tether, just this coin, this stable coin, which is no accident.
And I think they're just getting started.
You're talking about it.
It's like more than half the market cap of gold in 1980.
That's what Tether is, just this stable coin now.
But their gold holdings are enormous.
And we're not talking ETS.
They have physical gold.
They're going to be backing up whatever their play is, their strength of their currency.
because it's a separate system than the dollar,
but it also props up the dollar.
I think they're merging those things, in my opinion.
I think they're merging them,
where the, you know, creating the off ramps,
which for the new world economy,
that will be how the dollar supposedly saves itself.
Yeah.
It's unclear, you know,
and a lot of the planners, so they get,
they get things wrong often.
I think we ascribe, you know,
they definitely are evil.
I think we ascribe too much intelligence sometimes.
I think we overestimate.
them as far as what they can actually accomplish.
It is messy.
Yeah.
So in this, you know, as far as I'm concerned and everything that I do and study every day,
I'm looking at five, ten years down the road.
You know, are we, are you better off outside of the system or in it?
You know, especially when you don't know what the system is.
The whole, the transition of the dollar to a digital stable coin public private
partnership.
And you're right.
It'll be surveillance.
It'll be all that stuff.
And the banks, it's hard to say that they got caught flat-footed, but it was a dark horse, you know, like the whole stable coin thing.
Because we always were taught that it's CBDC.
Yeah, that's right.
You know, it's CBC, it's central bank digital currency.
And then you had the Fed now, kind of like apocalypse now.
You had the Fed now coin.
That was that, what is, when it came out.
So it was right before, July of 24, it was right before the presidential election.
Maybe, I think, was it the same day of the, of the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
the rally in Pennsylvania at Butler.
Wasn't that the day that Fed coin launched?
Why should you go look that up?
Something's weird with that.
But the Democrats are just like the people in Europe, the central banks there are just
in everybody's faces and saying, yeah, we're going to do central bank digital currency.
And the Democrats want to do the same thing as well.
They're one that state to own it because they're going to get their money from the state.
The Republicans come in and they give us a crony capitalist version of it.
You know, it's going to be quasi-independent, but I don't want to have anything to do with anything
that it's put together by Larry Lutnik.
That just stinks from a while away.
So that's where these guys are going.
And it becomes something of a joke when they talk about a stable coin that is a digital currency.
It's not a coin.
And it's not stable because it's tied to the Federal Reserve notes.
And so they've got to put gold in there.
That's what I was saying earlier.
You've got all these different monetary systems that are either going to be
competing against each other. And every one of them needs to have gold somehow in order to get
people's trust and to show people this is something that's real. So that's one of the reasons
why the stable coins are collecting gold because you can't really sell these things as a basket
of treasury bills that kind of has a stench to it, I think, at this point in time.
Let me just look at the trends. The Chinese used to be the greatest buyers of U.S. treasuries,
now they're the biggest sellers.
I mean, all these trends that are going to be.
Treasuries used to dominate the dollar,
even till recently dominated reserve holdings around the world,
and now gold supplanted that.
It's about trust, and it's about price stability.
And you can't control everything about gold.
It enters the market and increases the supply about 2% every year
from what's mined and what, you know, what hits the market.
It's about 2%.
you can't control that necessarily.
But you certainly can't control governments printing.
You know, if you're, if you're trying to park your funds in something like the U.S.
dollar or you're trying to, and that is the best of the worst right now.
I mean, the dollar still is, you know, where you would go temporarily to hold value
and, you know, not have to, it's not like it's the Venezuelan currency or it's Zimbabwe right now.
But it's not looking good.
And, you know, you continue to lose global share and you lose global trust.
And then you get sanctioned.
You know, so the whole point of getting off of that system is in large part from the weaponization of the dollar.
But it's also the fact that the dollars lose in purchasing power.
And we'll continue to do so, just mathematically.
And that's why this woman's op-ed piece.
This war is going to strengthen the petro dollar.
It's like, a lady, the petro dollar ended a couple of years ago when the Saudis said,
we're going to buy and sell in Chinese yuan.
That was essentially the end of it.
And Forbes has pointed that out that it ended two years ago.
So it's not that it's going to strengthen it.
It doesn't exist anymore.
And the other rationale for that was not just the fact that Saudi Arabia is going to buy
treasury bills, but the other rationale was that we were going to be the adult in the room.
We were going to be the ones who brought peace and prosperity to the Gulf states.
Now we have brought war volatility.
and death and destruction and setting the place on fire.
So I don't see how in the world, even if the U.S. were to have some kind of a victory,
I think it's going to be a Pyrrhic victory for the Petro Dollar.
No, I agree.
And I think a little late to the party, Madam.
I mean, you're talking about two years ago.
We lost the Petro Dollar.
And I thought that was the, you know, you use that phrase, the dog that didn't bark, Sherlock Holmes,
that nobody did anything.
I thought that was strange.
So I'm not sure this is about the petro dollar or it maybe has other reasoning to it because we didn't fight to keep that agreement and we certainly didn't keep our promises and we made, you know, the whole point of that was Saudi, we would protect you.
You know, we would be your military arm. You don't have to worry about that.
So, you know, denominate oil only in dollars. And the rest of, you know, converted, you know, anytime somebody's buying that, convert it, you know, from dollars into crude.
So we just lost that, and I didn't see any pushback or any plans to do anything from our government in 24.
So I don't know.
I don't know what this is about, but definitely Petro Dollar has left the building.
That's right.
Absolutely.
Well, tell us a little bit about what's happening at Wise Wolf.
Of course, things are not as volatile as you've been suffering with the last several months.
So things have stabilized a little bit.
Tell us a little bit about what's going on at Wise Wolf.
No, just same, you know, keeping the supply chain going.
I think we're doing well.
We've got the two shops of Missouri and Texas that are buying product for our Wolfpack members.
And that really is what's driving the supply right now is the two physical locations.
And we're happy for that.
I mean, it's it's been an interesting ride, David, the last 90, 120 days.
Oh, yeah.
The volatility.
we're still seeing the effects of it, but it's calmed down somewhat.
We're helping people right now with IRAs, which I think is a good move.
And the difference between, you know, an IRA in the regular world with paper is that it's tied to paper.
But the IRA, the gold and silver gives you the protection of the IRA legally, but it's in a third-party vault.
You know, you're talking, these aren't banks.
These are vaults, and they're not in the banking system.
So I really like those for people.
I like them for myself.
And they're just fundamentals, David.
Just, you know, another thing I wanted to tell people about is, you know, we, we upgraded
the Wolfpack website or we're working on it.
And you can go see some of the images that we've redone.
I was going to remind people, we take Bitcoin too.
You know, it's payment.
You can buy one time on Wolfpack, even the smaller stuff with, with Bitcoin.
And we don't charge a fee.
Nobody.
We just take that Bitcoin, same.
his cash. So that's just another thing that we've added. I didn't know if I've mentioned it before.
But Wolfpack's doing well and just supply chain keeping it open. I'm looking, I'm trying to do
two or three steps ahead, which is often hard to do when. Well, that's off to be able to
navigate through these stormy waters that we've got right now. We may be in the eye of the storm.
You may get the backlash as it keeps moving along. Who knows what the future holds of this stuff.
Again, I think the Wolfpack thing is such a great idea that lets people dollar cost average,
you know, just gradually save over a period of time, especially when we're looking at something
that has strong, long-term fundamentals, but there's, you know, the noise and volatility of what's
happening politically, militarily is going to be making things jump around quite a bit.
So that's a way for the rest of us to be able to average this out.
I don't know how you manage it, but it's great that you take some of that risk for it.
us. I appreciate that. Happy to do it. We actually do have some questions for Tony as well.
Oh, okay. Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. AP Rumble seat says, hey, Tony, good to see you. Isn't this Iran war one step
closer to one world governance? I think so. I mean, you have to, you have to do the control
demolition of the current system in order to create the new system. It's problem reaction solution.
And I mean, that's the only thing that really explains it to me. I mean, you can even, you can look at all
the periphery explanations or you can get some of these tired, you know, military, industrial
national security people, but they still don't really explain what we're doing. And I think it's
probably more along the lines of pushing us into one world government or governance. I agree. Yeah.
And we have a question here from Guard Goldsmith says Q for Tony. Any thoughts on how the energy problem
will affect precious metals mining companies? That's a great question. I didn't think.
thought about that because it takes so much energy to get the gold and silver out of the ground.
That's right.
I think they'll just price that in, you know, the cost of metals, you know, it'll be priced
into the cost of extracting it.
Everything becomes more expensive.
So you add a tax, yeah.
So you add a tax on every single thing, isn't it?
Yeah, it taxes everything.
And, you know, it's, there's nothing that it really escapes it.
So, I think that'll be priced in.
And the more that prices rise, and Gardner knows this better than anybody,
and more prices rise, the more that you have inflation, more inflation,
you have lost purchasing power, the higher the prices and the prices and metals go up.
Okay.
I mean, it's not necessarily the metals going up all the time.
It's just the currency losing purchasing power.
Yeah, that's right.
Absolutely.
And one last comment I thought you would enjoy it, Tony.
He says, David, they hate us for our freedoms, so we need to give them up, unbelievable.
And I'm sure that you have some strong feelings about the,
they hate us for our freedoms line, Tony.
Oh, yeah, I love that line.
You know, as they hate us for our freedom, can we just be friends now?
Because, who don't have any left?
I always wondered that.
Can we just be, you know, can we be buddies?
Yeah, we're all in the same basket now.
We're all in this together.
Yeah, it's like, you're the great Satan.
I'm like, I know.
I'm sorry.
I can't do anything about the Epstein.
It's my government.
Yeah, it's my government.
We don't like them either.
Yeah.
Absolutely. Well, thank you, Tony. It's always great talking to you.
And again, Wisewolf Gold, and you can get there through David Knight.org.
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That's very generous.
Well, thank you very much.
He says, Tony is correct.
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And you can find Audi at Modern RetroRadio.com, as well as on his podcast and show.
Everything is a lie, damn it, which you can find on Rumble.
And good comment from D. Rejimer.
Breaking Louisville, Kentucky Derby winner to be paid in stable coin.
Oh, that's funny.
Yeah.
Well, I wouldn't bet on stable coin.
I probably wouldn't bet on the Kentucky Derby either, but...
It might be safer betting on the Kentucky Derby than anything in the market at this point.
Yeah, I got the horse right here.
His name is Paul Revere.
That's right.
Well, you know, there's this ongoing war of words between the Pope and Trump.
And so he's now escalated that.
You know, first he put himself in the role trying to look like Jesus, you know, with healing in his hands and all the rest of stuff.
the guy that put out the warp speed vaccine, the utter hypocrisy of this.
And then as he got pushed back on that, and people start debating this.
And I didn't get into it in detail yesterday.
But, of course, conservative Catholics, like Lifesite News, took issue with what the Pope had to say in terms of, first of all, the Pope came back and said, well, this is an unjustified war.
He's absolutely right about that.
And I think all conservatives can agree with that, that this is not a justified war.
And yet he went further than that.
He said no war is justified, at which point a lot of people said, oh, wait a minute.
That's a little bit too far.
Because you do have a duty to protect innocent life.
That is true of states as well as of individuals.
If somebody comes in and starts shooting up the church, I mean, would you put that person down?
That's essentially the way we need to look at these wars.
But now there is a war of words going back and forth between the Pope and the president.
So now Trump has put out a new meme, which shows he and Jesus are buddies.
There you go.
And I'm going to say, you know, where are the people that are supposed to be his spiritual advisors?
You know, people like Paula White, the grifter that is there.
It's just such a bunch of clowns who really don't have any genuine Christianity that they're talking about at all.
And a good example of this is what.
We mentioned briefly with Tony.
This is Pete Hegseth.
Gets a bunch of people in the room and I said, you know, what he says in terms of the hate and the boasting and the lethality.
And don't you dare say that you won't follow my illegal orders?
All this stuff is so antithetical to true Christianity.
It's just amazing.
I want people to understand that.
If you're a Christian, you probably understand that.
If you're not a Christian, you're looking at this and saying, what an odious religion.
Well, a Pete Hex-S religion is not the religion of Christianity.
And here's a good example of it.
Here he is.
Somebody put the clip.
He's actually quoting from a fake prayer from a fake Bible verse that was used in Pulp Fiction.
And this is Pete Hexus Pulp Fiction version of Christianity.
Somebody has him talking and they've got the Samuel L. Jackson character.
from Pulp Fiction synced up with him.
He's almost an exact sync in terms of his cadence.
So the prayer is Cesar 2517, and it reads and pray with me, please.
The path of the downed aviator is beset on all sides,
by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.
Blessed is he who, in the name of camaraderie and duty,
who in the name of the loss through the valley of darkness,
for he is truly his brother's keeper,
and the finder of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger
those who attempt to capture and destroy my brother.
And you will know my colcine is Sandy one
when I lay my vengeance upon.
And you will know my name is the Lord
when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
So who did it better?
Which one is the better actor there?
I am so sick and tired of these people who are,
we saw the same thing from Michael Flynn.
Michael Flynn, who on the second Pentagon Pride Month,
was pushing this Navy SEAL who said he was transitioning to being a woman.
He has now recovered his sanity and said, you know,
they did that to me as an adult Navy SEAL.
We've got to stop them from getting around kids at all.
But anyway, you had Michael Flynn on the second Pride
month of the Pentagon was handing out an award to Kristen Beck.
There's a guy that was Chris Beck.
And then he goes on with this reawaken America, and he's got a prayer, and I've played this
for you before, where Michael Flynn, word for word, is doing this cultic lead, this cult leader,
Elizabeth Clare Prophet from the 1980s.
And he goes, prayer for prayer into this pagan cult that is, you know, talking about a
ascended spiritual masters and they think. He gives people to come into church buildings and they have
these quasi-religious political services. And he's quoting from this woman who was a,
definitely not Christian. This is kind of a new age cult. And now you got Pete Hegseth doing this.
And of course, that's nothing new. We've been seeing Pete Hegseth pervert and twist what
Christ is about, what Christ taught, perverting and twisting Christianity. He's presented a disgusting
version of Christianity, calling it Christian nationalism. And so now he takes it to the next step.
Just amazing to me. And of course, you're not seeing that being picked up by the Christian press.
They're ignoring that, just like they ignored it with Michael Flynn, and they will ignore it.
They will continue to ignore it because they like a guy that gets Christian symbols tattooed on his body, you know, from centuries ago.
That's what this is all really about.
And I've got to say that his version of Christianity is just as detached from the real thing as Peter Thiel, you know,
who's going around giving seminars and Silicon Valley and other places about the Antichrist as if it's not him.
And you've got Peter Thiel talking about the resurrection.
Here we go.
Here's some more funny Christianity.
As late as the late 19th, early 20th century, there was a movement called Cosmism and the sort of
around the time of the Soviet revolution, it claimed that for the revolution to succeed,
you had to physically resurrect all the dead people using science.
And workers of the world unite.
But there was a moment when they thought it might even be possible.
There was an incredible ambition, an incredible energy to modern science.
What's crazy is that he also connected this bizarre necromancy theory to Christianity.
It was perhaps downstream from Christianity.
If the promise of Christianity is a physical resurrection, then science could offer that too.
It was a possibility.
Now, you might be wondering why a tech billionaire is talking about Christianity.
Well, Peter considers himself a religious man, even though he often criticizes Christian ideas and power figures.
I would describe myself as a Christian, yes.
I would always think God is...
It's kind of choking on the lies.
I'm not Catholic like you and I, I've always, I always have a two-word rebuttal of Roman Catholicism to all my conservative Catholic friends.
It's just Pope Francis.
Of course, we don't know the reality of his religious views, but one thing is certain.
Peter absolutely loves talking about the Antichrist.
You know, I should, I should not need to remind you that in the, you know, in the sort of quasi-mythological New Testament account,
the slogan of the Antichrist is peace and safety.
I think it was Ivan Illich who said that in the time before Christ,
there were many forerunners to Christ.
In the time after Christ, there will be many forerunners of the Antichrist.
You're supposed to worry about Armageddon.
You're also supposed to worry about the Antichrist.
Maybe you're supposed to worry more about the Antichrist because the Antichrist comes first.
He has explained on multiple occasions what kind of actions he expects from the Antichrist.
You know, my speculative thesis is that if the Antichrist
were to come to power, it would be by talking about Armageddon all the time. The Antichrist probably
presents as an authoritarian, great philanthropist, as an effective altruist, you know, all of those
kinds of things. You know, we're told that there's nothing worse than Armageddon, but perhaps
there is. Perhaps we should fear the Antichrist, perhaps we should fear the one world totalitarian state
more than Armageddon. Yeah, there we go. It's just insane what we're seeing here. But
At least this back and forth between Trump and the Pope has caused a lot of people to talk about the idea of a just war.
Now, they're still not getting it right, as a matter of fact.
When you look at what J.D. Vance said, it would be best for the Vatican to stick to matters of morality, to stick to matters.
It is about morality.
You know, what's going on to the Catholic Church and let the President of the United States stick to dictating American public policy.
Well, you know, war is a question of morality.
It's not just a question of public policy.
It's not just a question of can we get away with it?
Can we win it?
What can we steal?
And I don't care how many people I kill to get it.
That's not what war should ultimately be about.
And it's kind of interesting that for J.D. Vance and a lot of these other people, they can compartmentalize this and say, well, you know, war is not an issue of morality.
it is the ultimate issue of morality.
You're talking about murder on a massive scale.
And that's what it is.
When you are the aggressor, folks, it is murder.
And it is justified if you're saving innocent life.
But if you choose to start the war, if you are the aggressor,
and that is what we are in this particular case,
that is never justified.
And all of the death that happens on both sides is on your hands.
that's the reality of what is happening with the Trump administration right now.
It was kind of interesting.
There's a headline from LifeSight News and they said,
Trump hasn't needed leftist cardinals to make him look bad.
He's been doing plenty of it by himself.
And so then they look at some of these leftist cardinals and some of the crazy things that they have said
in terms of pushing back against what Trump is doing with immigration.
And again, separating the policy, the long-term goals from the way it's being.
accomplished or the way it's, I should say, the way it's not being accomplished.
You know, this Gestapo tactic has not really produced the kind of numbers that they had as a goal
anyway. So it's not working from a pragmatic standpoint. It certainly isn't working from a
legal constitutional standpoint. But they point out that this guy who was the, who oversees
the Newark Archdiocese of New Jersey, this is from Wysite News. They said he laughably argued
that the Statue of Liberty is a resident of his archdiocese and that Lady Liberty would oppose Trump's immigration policies.
Well, of course, she did immigrate from France, right?
If you've got to personify this.
But I think there's probably a statute of limitations for the Statue of Liberty.
She's been here for a very long time.
And by all accounts, she's been law abiding.
She hasn't attacked anybody.
One of the things that always gets me is, you know, they appeal to the plaque on the Statue of Liberty.
Give me your tired, your huddled masses, however the exact quote goes.
It was written by a Marxist playwright.
It's literally a quote from a Marxist, and it has no bearing on the Constitution or the law of the land.
Well, what do you expect when it comes from France, right?
They're all Jacobins anyway.
But, yeah, you know, if you want, I've said so many times, you want the Ellis Island experience,
that means that you don't get the welfare magnet.
That means that you don't get the refugee stuff that the Trump administration just doubled.
That's the real Ellis Island experiment experience.
So you come here on your own because you want freedom, not because you want free stuff.
So anyway, the guy says, God wants us to promote peace in the world because his desire is that we become one human family.
And this is where the Pope goes back and a lot of these liberal bishops go back.
It's this kind of ecumenical kumbaya thing.
Well, we're all God's children, even if we don't accept Christ.
And you see that with this Pope right after he is lecturing Trump.
He goes to a mosque, I think it was in Algiers.
He goes in and he takes his shoes off and he prays inside the mosque with this guy who is the Muslim religious leader.
And, you know, they're selling the idea, which, by the way,
Billy Graham did that as well.
You know, there's a wideness in God's mercy.
It's like, no, Christ said, I am the way, the truth in life.
No one comes to the Father except by me.
And so, yeah, broad is the way.
There's a lot of different people who've got a lot of ideas about how we reconcile ourselves to God.
Think we can do it through charity or through good works or like Donald Trump said,
well, I just try to be a better person?
No, that's not it.
It's actually through Christ.
That is the Christian understanding.
I believe that is true.
And that is the Christian religion is the only one that does not have a system of works that you have to do in order to earn your salvation.
It is a gift.
And, of course, following Christ and living the life that he has offered to us, or trying to, at least to the best of your ability, that is a path of blessing.
But the gift of eternal life comes through faith in what Christ has done.
done. So these people are selling this. And again, like I said, you know, the categorically
against any war, even to stop the war, you can't fight to stop the war. They have offered
the idea that you can have peace through any number of ways to God and not just through Christ.
So LifeSight News correctly points out that Christ said, don't think that I've come to bring
peace to the earth, I've come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword. I've come to set man against
father and a daughter against her mother and so forth. I agree with that. That is what Christ said.
So what does that mean? We have the Christmas carols like, I heard the bell on Christmas Day.
It was written at a time when the Civil War was happening and the guy's son was in the Civil War.
I don't remember if he was killed or not, but they were concerned about that. And he said,
there is no peace on Earth. And it's like, well, yeah, Christ did not promise.
that. He promised peace between man and God, not between different people. And there is something that
we should, just as we look at a war that is being conducted as a physical war to save
innocent life, in the same way, we fight with a sword of truth to try to determine what really
is our peace with God. And so that is a struggle that we're called to have. And that is what
Pete Hexeth foolishly doesn't understand when he talks about,
you've prepared my hands for warfare, my fingers for battle.
We don't fight against flesh and blood for those types of things.
That is, God's kingdom is not of this earth.
And we don't fight in the way that Pete Higseth says that we do.
I hope that that clip puts to rest once in for all that Pete Hegseth
and this Christian nationalist church that he's a part of is just as clueless as the
kumbaya leftist pope and what he's putting out there. And again, you have the Christian or the
Catholic conservatives are taking the Pope to task as well. Leo commented that no one can use God
to justify war. He does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war. They said, well,
their comment on that as conservative Catholics was, that's preposterous. If a war is
proportionate, if it's fought against an invasive threat, if it's fought in a defensive manner,
if it is fought to try to preserve the life of non-combatants, they didn't write that there,
but that is another aspect of a justified war. You don't target civilians. This is what Israel
doesn't understand. This is why they have become so incredibly and justifiably odious to everyone
because of their constant bombing and murder of civilians. When you kill non-competition,
combatants, that is murder. And of course, the American military did that in Venezuela when they
attacked people that had been shipwrecked, came back to finish them off. The initial attack was
unjustified, an act of aggression, and then they compounded it by murdering the survivors that were there.
So LifeSight News agrees with that. And again, how do we call ourselves pro-life when we might fight to stop
abortion, but then we will cheer on the murder of children with bombs. That tears them apart
limb by limb just as much as a surgeon does. So it's not a fight that we limit just to euthanasia
or to abortion. We need to also fight against an unjustified war. A justified war can be
something that is waged in order to stop that unjustified aggression.
but we need to always keep that in mind.
So their comment was, first, it is ridiculous for Trump to accuse Leo of wanting Iran to have a nuclear weapon.
It's also odd for Trump to call out Leo for catering to the radical left when he himself has placated pro-LGBLog cabin Republicans.
He promotes in vitro fertilization.
So they look at Trump's record on all these things.
And of course, he's a New York Democrat.
He opposes all these things as well.
Trump is very liberal socially.
He panders to the conservatives, but he himself personally is not.
And he also, for political purposes, they didn't add this here, but he has also given
funding, restored funding to Planned Parenthood.
Planned Parenthood still gets tax-exempt status as well as federal money.
Moreover, there are many conservatives who oppose Trump's war against
Iran. And it's not just the radical left who do that. Trump says that he should be loved by Catholics
because he got the federal government off the neck of traditional Catholics as well as pro-lifers
like Mark Hoke who are being spied on and persecuted by the Biden administration. Trump would be
right to brag about that. And yet the Trump administration and the church that Pete Hankseth goes to
wants to keep the face act. This is why I say they will pardon their people, give, you know,
the people that are part of their tribe, they'll give them pardons, they'll give them compensation,
but they will leave in place the things that have been used to attack people, like the Fas Act, for
example. They said at the same time, Trump has surrounded himself the evangelical Protestants who are
110% supportive of Israel, who think the Jews are the chosen people of God, and attacking Leo
is clearly driven by these voices in the White House. As a matter of fact, people like Ted Cruz is really
freaking out over traditional Catholics because they are not sufficiently Zionist. And that is
truly the reality. But of course, it's not just traditional Catholics who are not Zionist. I'm not
a Zionist either. I don't agree with that at all. As a matter of fact, if you want to talk about
the fact that, well, okay, God's got a special plan for Israel because he talks about the nation of
Israel. He also talks about Gog and Magog. God's got a plan for everything, right? He's got
things that he's going to have done by different nations, by different leaders. That doesn't
necessarily mean that that's his stamp of approval on what is happening. Some of that can be
judgment. He can even use a bad evil group of people as he did with Babylonians. He said to the Jews,
when he said the Babylonians are going to take them into captivity.
He goes, you're not going to believe what is going to happen.
I'm going to summon up some of the most evil people on earth to take you captive.
And so just because God has a purpose for a country doesn't mean that these people are the chosen
people of God that, you know, he chose the Babylonians to do a certain thing.
And I saw an interesting comment from one person.
He said the part of the mistake about what is made in terms of greater Israel and what
what God has promised is the idea that they have absolute ownership of this.
He goes, there's a difference between leasehold and having full ownership of it.
God said to them, he said, this is my land.
And you can live on it.
But he also told them, if you turn against me, if you rebel against me, I will remove you
from the land.
And so that is the aspect of it.
It isn't theirs in perpetuity.
Never was.
it was given to them as God said, this is my land, and I'm going to let you live on it.
So that's one thing to keep in mind.
It's also something to keep in mind that we look at the fact that, you know, people kind of say,
it's a miracle that Israel is back on the land.
Well, do you need to, is it really a miracle when you've got all of these chariots and horses
and you've got one of the most powerful militaries that's ever been had.
And that is really the case of Jerusalem on its own, of Israel on its own,
is the fact that they have a massive military that's there, a lot of money.
Is that a miracle to see that happen?
Or is that something that is just something that has been working its way out?
We see these same errors played out over and over again,
where people think God is speaking of the physical world we inhabit.
It's like, oh, he's going to come.
back and raise up a kingdom. And the Jews, you know, of Christ's time, we're looking for a military
savior, someone to come free them from the Roman Empire. That's how they missed him, yeah.
But God wasn't talking about that. That's right. That's what they wanted. Their hearts were
fixed on this world and on these kingdoms, and so they completely missed what Christ was about.
Now we got Ben Shapiro, and he's out there pushing the Noahide laws that he says are going to be
good for us. I'm a Jew. That means that I do not believe in the divinity.
of Jesus. I also believe, as an Orthodox Jew, that Judaism is not the only path to heaven.
Judaism as a religion is not exclusive, meaning that as long as people who are not Jewish follow
seven basic Noah Hyde laws, and this includes Christians and Muslims, they too have a share
in the world to come. And those seven basic laws are things like no blasphemy, don't commit sexual
sins, set up a court of law, make sure that you're not eating flesh from a living animal,
stuff like that. Yeah, stuff like that. Well, how does that square with that?
what he said at the very beginning.
I don't believe Christ.
I dispute what he has to say in terms of,
I am the only way.
And as a matter of fact,
if you look at rabbinical Judaism,
there isn't any religion on earth
that is more anti-Christ than that.
They don't just reject him as Messiah.
They condemn him to hell in the strongest terms.
And so the very first Noahide law that he talks about
is blasphemy.
If we as Christians,
see Christ as the Messiah as God, that is blasphemy to the Jews. So if we have the
Noahide laws, that creates a real problem for religious freedom. This is not just seven laws that
are kind of natural laws that we can all agree. Don't kill, don't steal and that type of thing.
But of course, the Zionists are not following the Noahide laws either, are they? They are killing
in order to steal. And so yesterday,
Today we had a vote in the Senate to stop giving Israel weapons of war and to stop giving them money.
And that went not too well for the people who wanted to have peace and who don't want to be giving money bombs to Israel.
It was 40 to 59.
The 59.
The yeas are 40.
The nays, 59.
The motion is not agreed to.
And that was a motion to stop.
funding weapons with Israel.
And so again, they're going to continue down that path.
So that wasn't all that Ben Shapiro had to say.
He was slamming J.D. Vance.
He said, you are honoring garbage like Tucker Carlson and Theo Vaughn.
He said, so here's the bottom line.
It's not possible to humor, low IQ slop, and then assume that it will not have consequences.
Honoring garbage is exacerbating garbage.
Well, I think that's kind of hate speech, don't you?
I mean, you know, you can't say that kind of thing about somebody's Jewish,
or you'll get the ADL after you saying that you are engaging in hate speech.
He says, if you're going to laugh along with the purveyors of BS,
the importance of grifters and nuts, he said it populizes the worst ideas.
Well, I would say the same thing about the grifters and the nuts like B.B. Netanyahu
and these other Zionists, I think,
It populates and popularizes some of the worst ideas like genocide, racism, hatred.
I think all of that is part of it.
He said the same figures push the demoralization opposition,
that America is run by nefarious forces beyond your control.
We would never think that there's somebody that is giving orders to our own administration, would we?
Unless BB Netanyahu boasted about the fact that they report to him on a daily basis,
I spoke yesterday with Vice President J.D. Vance.
He called me from his plane on the way back from Washington.
He reported to me in detail, as the people of this administration do every day, on the development of the negotiations.
In this case, the explosion in the negotiations, the explosion came from the American side,
which was not willing to tolerate the blatant violation of the agreement to enter negotiations by Iran.
Essentially, the agreement was that there would be a ceasefire and Iran would immediately open the crossings.
They didn't do that.
The Americans were not willing to accept it.
You're the one who violated the ceasefire.
This is the guy, he says, so the ceasefire didn't work.
Because he refused to abide by it.
Everybody said that the ceasefire included Lebanon.
The Iranians said it.
The mediators said it.
And Trump initially said it.
But he said, no, it doesn't include Lebanon.
And so they did their best to kind of stop this.
But again, Trump wants war.
This is what the military industrial complex wants.
They want a permanent state of war.
And even as they are not winning this war, even as they are dragging the entire world down into a global economic depression,
they're still looking at where their next war is.
And they're still talking about what they're going to do in Cuba.
And we're going to do this, and we may stop by Cuba after we're finished with this.
But Cuba is a nation that has been horribly run for many years by Castro.
Yeah, well, I guess we can say the same thing about America now under Trump.
It's been horribly run.
It truly is amazing.
To see this guy is never going to give up.
It's going to be one war after another.
He is the guy for the fourth turning.
He is the one man forth turning.
Again, the Pentagon is ramping up planning for military operation in Cuba.
It began in January when the Trump administration curbed oil shipments to Cuba as part of the broader campaign to force sweeping political changes in Cuba.
This is USA Today writing this.
The Pentagon remains prepared to execute the president's orders as directed.
Regardless of the sanity, regardless of the sanity, regardless.
of the Constitution, regardless of whether the orders are illegal or not, they remain prepared
to execute the president's orders as directed. So it is an act of war. He's talking about another act
of aggression, another unjust war that he wants to unleash on people. So this is,
Trump has done this to the entire world and he keeps on doing it. And he makes these
amazing statements. I can do anything I want. Taking Cuba in some form, he says, whether I
free it, whether I take it, I think I can do anything I want to with it. The arrogance,
the hubris, the evil of this man is just beyond belief. With Cuba's military equipment
and deteriorated condition, its officers unlikely to adhere to an unpopular regime, a U.S. military
operation in Cuba would likely be fast. An overwhelming success.
said one analyst.
But then what follows, right?
Are you going to institute rule of law?
Are you going to then prop up opposition leaders?
You know, how does this nation building thing operate for us?
And again, even from a pragmatic standpoint,
when we look at how these wars have turned out in Iraq and Afghanistan,
yeah, we can go in and we can blow up their military,
we can occupy the place, and there might be some guerrilla warfare.
Maybe they won't.
it's not morally right, whatever we do,
but you'll have a lot of people who look at it and say,
hey, this is great.
You know, we're strong, we can do whatever we want to to anybody.
That's what Trump is already saying in advance.
This will be a very easy military victory, said that one analyst,
but it'll be a far more difficult political victory.
And again, the question is, what does it mean to win?
Right?
What is the meaning of this?
What is our purpose and all this?
As I was saying before, you know, when you look at whether or not this is a miracle,
we have the ultra-Orthodox Jews will say, no, we think God give us a land,
but we think that he can do it on his own without us going out and killing people and stealing their land.
J.D. Hall essentially says the same thing.
He says, miracles as a rule do not require something like the Balfour Declaration or the Rothschild Banking Network
or decades of Zionist lobbying, or support of the world's most powerful empires,
or a world war to get off the ground, you don't need that for miracles.
Miracles tend to not produce 80 years of continuous warfare.
Miracles are 12 declared wars or 60-odd military engagements,
with a trajectory that has the serious foreign policy community
discussing whether or not we are watching the opening act of World War III.
that doesn't look like a miracle
Joshua took the same land
in approximately five to seven years
with iron farm implements
and no air force
and an army of homeless nomads
with no shoes
and oh by the way
you know in a miracle
you have the walls of Jericho
falling down and we haven't seen
anything like that
as a matter of fact
you got people like Ben Shapiro
denying that there was a miracle
but denying that there was a parting of the Red Sea
he just wants the land
that he can read in there
cherry picks, he goes to the Bible and he says, that's the part I like right there where I get the land.
That was a miracle when Joshua took the land.
Israel has had access to the most sophisticated military technology in human history,
supplied by the country with the largest defense budget on earth against opponents whose equipment differential is more than Goliath had against David.
They have aircraft carriers to not see partings.
So this is a battle that by all means they should be able to win.
Perhaps I guess the reality is maybe it's a miracle that they've been stopped from winning.
Maybe that's the way we should understand this.
Well, that's it for the broadcast today.
Have a good day.
And before we go, I want to say thank you to Radis Bro.
That is very generous.
Yes, thank you very much.
It might as well just get the cast of Dr. Strangelove up there while Major Kong is telling us you have to nuke Iran by writing the bomb all the way in.
That's right.
It says, David Franklin Graham said there's nothing wrong with Trump posting himself as Jesus Christ.
Trump has surrounded himself with yes men and women, including his evangelical leaders.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, you know, Franklin Graham doesn't have much discernment.
Theological, medical, otherwise political, none at all, quite frankly.
This is a guy who, you know, he got paracarditis.
He was a big supporter of the vaccine as well.
And I think he actually took it.
You know, he didn't get a placebo or anything.
He doesn't have any discernment.
even to save his own life.
I would not recommend Franklin Grant to anybody.
Yeah, don't trust him as your spiritual or any other kind of advisor.
Or political advisor, medical advisor.
He's a zero across the board, yeah.
That's Franklin.
And I want to remind people, Tony's show on America Unplugged is coming up right after this.
And I want to let you all know, I will be going on with Guard Goldsmith tonight at 730.
We're going to talk about probably C.S. Lewis, Chronicles of Narnia, screw tape letters, that sort of thing.
So if you ever wanted to hear me ramble on about books I like, that's the place to do it.
Liberty Conspiracy tonight with Guard Goldsmith.
Oh, that's great.
I didn't know that.
First I heard about that.
Yeah, we...
Well, I've been...
Tune in tonight.
Yeah.
So catch me later, and thank you all for tuning in.
Yes, thank you.
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