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Episode Date: July 16, 2024

(2:00) Is Trump Taking a Chance on Vance or is He Playing JD Chess?Who is this hillbilly whose reflections on life put "elegy" back into the dictionary?Unlike most politicians, JD Vance has openly tal...ked about what he thinks matters in life — and it's a mixed bagFrom early connections to blue collar rust belt, to Iraq, to his billionaire technocrat mentors and partnersHis evolving positions on issues — vaccines, lockdowns, climate change, energy, Ukraine, Israel, border, class warfare and moreWhat you need to know about JD Vance, who, for better or worse, is likely to be a big part of politics for years to comeContinued after interview(1:01:05) INTERVIEW Cheating Death: Three-Time Presidential Secret Service Agent Lives to Tell You HowWith 24 yrs experience serving under 3 presidents in the Secret Service, Ken Valentine comments on the recent shooting at the Trump event as strange details continue to emerge. In his book "Cheating Death", Ken Valentine talks about lessons he learned in the corridors of wealth and power about the important things in life and what it takes to keep a family of 5 children together in a high pressure job — lessons that apply to every family(1:42:13) JD Vance continuedissues like abortion, crypto, bitcoin, Ukraine, vaccines, Jan6What gives meaning to life according to Vance?Uniparty alert:  Legislation introduced with Elizabeth Warren(2:27:47) The Great ReplacementCrime tactics used in Venezuela come to New York City20,000 Haitians overwhelm a small Ohio city of only 58,000German welfare system is swamped — doubled — based on migrantsSchools teach the British Empire are Nazis, Americans are Nazis, just as they taught all Germans are Nazis(2:37:06) After Trump Shooting, Conservatives Adopt "Speech is Violence" Tactic of the LeftMaybe Free Speech is more important than "targeting" the oppositionCan YOU tell the difference between allegorical speech and a threat?  Breitbart and others pretend you can't(2:41:11) Conspiracy Theories About Trump Shooting Given Life by Continuing Revelations About Incredible "Errors" That Keep Piling UpWas it Biden?  Trump? FBI?What is driving the threats and violence?  Are politicians being hoisted by their own megalomaniac "petards"?  How do we change course?Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

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Starting point is 00:01:40 Or maybe Trump is playing J.D. chess this time around. We're going to take a look at J.D. Vance, who's not really very well known, except maybe perhaps out of Ohio. But even there, we don't have much of a record on him. So we're going to take a look at his background, his let's just put it this way, his evolution, what we might expect out of him. It's still hard to say because he's been all over the map, quite frankly. But we're going to also take a look at the great replacement that is happening here in America at a rapid pace. We're going to talk a little bit more about the assassination attempt. A lot of people have a lot of questions.
Starting point is 00:02:24 And so we're going to cover that. And we're going to have in the third hour, a man who had a long career as a Secret Service agent. He has written a book called Cheating Death. That'll be coming up in the second hour. So we'll be right back. Stay with us. Hillbilly Elegy. Are they going to play the Beverly Hillbillies when he takes the White House there? It's another one of these mansions he's going to get to live in. The youngest nominee since Richard Nixon, I should say, not a record young nominee.
Starting point is 00:03:16 But when we look at this, it ultimately is a beauty contest, a popularity contest, a demographics contest. It's about DEI, and he is, in many regards, a DEI pick like Lala, except he's a lot smarter than Lala. It's not going to be much of a contest with him having a debate. And, you know, debate is not certain yet. They haven't agreed to that. People talked about a date of July 23rd, which is really close,
Starting point is 00:03:45 just about a week away. Lala's not going to have any time to prepare. I don't think J.D. Vance needs time to prepare, but she certainly would. Or August the 13th. But again, nothing is definite. And although the Biden team has kind of tentatively signed on to this, they might be having second thoughts about this. When I look at this guy and I watched some videos of him talking for the first time. If nothing else, J.D. Vance is very intelligent. I would say that his IQ is greater than Trump's, Biden's and Lala Harris combined.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Without a doubt. It's going to be very interesting. So he's of average intelligence? Trump's, Biden's, and Lala Harris combined. Without a doubt. It's going to be very interesting. So he's of average intelligence? Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. That's good.
Starting point is 00:04:37 So that part of it is going to be interesting. And so let's take kind of a look at his background here and the 2016 presidential campaign. He's kind of gone the opposite way than I have. And in 2016, he was proud to be a never Trumper. And he was the person that all the mainstream media was getting on to talk to about the problems of white America. And what is it that they see in this guy, Trump? You know, so he's going to explain all that to them he's now saying that he didn't want to be put on the trump train so he overreacted against it or whatever we'll see uh but uh he was a never a trumper he said some very harsh things we'll tell you some of those things uh harsher than what i said about trump actually
Starting point is 00:05:26 uh not even then but i mean even now he said some very harsh things i don't know maybe maybe i'm worse i don't know because you see i i thought we should give him a chance i felt like julian assange we know what hillary clinton is we know she's a criminal we know she's a warmonger we don't know anything about Trump. Let's find out. Well, you know, the Trump administration tried to kill Julian Assange. And Trump tried to kill the Constitution, our society. And he succeeded in killing tens of millions of people with his jab.
Starting point is 00:05:57 And so we'll talk about Vance's positions on issues. And again, we see positions on issues. who's to say where these people will be i mean we can talk about this stuff but um the key thing is we don't want to focus too much on politics because and i think this is the important thing if you look at the story of jd vance his story whether or not he realizes it or not. And I haven't read his book and I haven't watched the movie that was done by Ron Howard of his life. So, but I've seen the trailer and I used to watch trailers and make decisions about movies for a living. Some can usually kind of guess what's going on with it. And I've read a lot of stuff now as as of yesterday, about J.D. Vance. To me, the big takeaway from J.D. Vance is what is happening to our society as reflected in his family.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Lessons from that. Did he learn those lessons? When are we going to learn those lessons? A lot of the stuff that I see in his family, again, a poor white family that has a lot of the same problems as in rural Ohio. A lot of the same problems that urban blacks have. And this is the destruction of the family, drug addiction, dependency, a blind faith on government to fix your problems. All of these things were there and white rural America just like they are in black urban America you see the skin color doesn't really make that much difference and even our
Starting point is 00:07:37 culture doesn't make that much difference is really the spiritual issues I don't know the understands, but let's just roll through this in a little bit of a chronological order here. What I was going to say was that he kind of went the other direction. You know, in 2016, he was a never-Trumper. I was like, let's give Trump a chance. And then after the Trump election,
Starting point is 00:08:01 when he wanted to run for office, he's telling everybody Trump is great. He's now on the Trump train and all the rest of this stuff, obviously. I am now a never again Trumper. Never again. Let's don't make America go through that again. That's my MAGA thing. I don't want to make America not go through that again.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Anyway. He compared GOP voters' newfound interest in Trump in 2016 to a heroin addiction, privately speculated about whether or not Trump was America's Hitler, referred to himself as a never-Trump guy and to Trump as an idiot, and he declared the 2016 election he had not voted for Trump. That's pretty based, actually. Because Trump is an addiction like i said when you look at the conditions that he grew up and you compare them white rural poverty to black urban poverty not really much difference and and there's another similarity between them and that is that they both look to government to fix their
Starting point is 00:09:05 problems they look to different parties of the uni party government to fix their problems what he's done is he's really articulated basically the trump platform he's done it in a very articulate way said governor de wine one of the worst republican governors one of the worst governors period during 2020 and pandemic and lockdown uh the despicable guy who offered people a lottery of a million dollars take the vaccine and you might win a million dollars well you know why don't you just play games of russian roulette you know here spend the chambers there's one bullet in there maybe you'll get lucky you know you can either blow your brains out or you can win a million dollars you feeling lucky i mean when that was happening i actually played that clip from the deer hunter i said this is what
Starting point is 00:10:00 this guy's doing here anyway uh and of course working for dewine was vivek vivek the snake rama swami who wanted to get his clutches on surveillance and tracking that was his angle for getting in there uh anyway vance in recent months has attempted to moderate his position on abortion after referring to abortion as murder last year and during his 2022 race saying that he would vote for a national 15-week abortion limit vance more recently has praised trump's leave it to the state's abortion platform and says that he shares trump's support of access to the MIFA Pristone. I just call it Mephistopheles. It's easier to say.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I know I'm pronouncing that correctly. Hey, movie starting, kiddo. Streaming service, $20. But mom, popcorn. Grocery bill, $120. And can we keep the light on? Sure. Sorry, your account has insufficient funds.
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Starting point is 00:11:42 you're not going to give them a dangerous pill like that without a doctor's examination to see the condition of the baby and on and on. The size of the baby, the position of the baby, your health support. And that is just the, for people who say that they care about women's health, for them to support the Mephistopheles pill is the ultimate hypocrisy.
Starting point is 00:12:11 But we talk about abortion. You know, the reality is, is that that's the constitutional issue. So from a legal standpoint, the Supreme Court and the Dobbs decision got it right. Trump is doing this out of political expediency but from a pragmatic standpoint of actually keeping abortion prohibited in some of the states i support leaving it to the states and i've explained why and i'll maybe talk about a little bit more but the um the other part of it is is that it's the constitution if you don't like the fact that the states are doing it you need to change the constitution and if you don't respect the
Starting point is 00:12:51 constitution we got big problems uh problems that are going to result in innocent people losing their lives as well he shared in recent years a close relationship with trump's son don jr that's why i thought he had the inside track. I mean, he was very popular with the conservatives and everything, but you can never tell what Trump's going to do. Trump makes really stupid decisions when it comes to staffing. This is probably a wiser decision than I've seen Trump make. Wise from many different angles for him from a pragmatic political standpoint, which I really didn't expect him to do the right, the wise thing, even from his own perspective.
Starting point is 00:13:31 You know, he tries, he's an angry narcissist, and he's incapable of acting except in his own perceived self-interest, but the key word in that is perceived. He usually can't perceive what his best self-interest is. The first term that is perceived he usually can't perceive what his best self-interest is the first term ohio republican and by the way he only took office in january 2023 so we only got about a year and a half of experience on him he hasn't really done much in senate that's what i'm saying it's it's hard to get a grip on this guy because all we have is what he said at first as an author,
Starting point is 00:14:05 when he was beloved by the New York times and by NPR and by Hillary Clinton and by Hollywood and all the rest of this stuff. And then what he said when he flipped and became a born, a born a MAGA candidate. And so I was like, where is this guy? Well, time will tell. He has both a poor background and a super elitist background. Which of those will he draw from?
Starting point is 00:14:36 On which policies will he draw from his poor background? On which ones will he draw from his Yale skull and bones background? And yes, they don't officially confirm that there are multiple multiple reports that he was in skull and bones when he was at yale so the first term republican has emerged as a foil to gop and democrat leaders alike criticizing the senate's bipartisan foreign aid package he's not in favor of the ukraine war That's a good point. Holding up Justice Department nominees. Absolutely should shut them down.
Starting point is 00:15:12 So anyway, he's expected to have this debate, which will be one that I will actually watch. I would enjoy watching one of the dumbest politicians I've ever seen on the stage debating one of the smartest politicians out there. It should be at least entertaining, if not informative. J.D. Vance once branded Trump the American Hitler and called his voters idiots, as I said. That's widely reported everywhere. He said Trump at the time was a cynical a-hole
Starting point is 00:15:47 who is america's hitler only an idiot would vote to the highest office in the land uh he even said i think i'm going to vote third party he told the washington post at the time because i can't stomach trump i think he's noxious he is leading the white working class to a very dark place. And ultimately, I don't share Hillary Clinton's politics, he said. He wrote a 2016 article for The Atlantic titled Opioid of the Masses, saying that Trump was not the solution to America's problems. You see, the bottom line is the president, the office of president is not the solution to your problems and he's actually made that point but now he's running for president you said his life is a series of contradictions i guess as you can say all of our lives are perhaps to some degree
Starting point is 00:16:38 or the other but his it's particularly pointed in terms of the contradictions that are out there during this election season it appears many amer Americans have reached for a new pain reliever. He wrote at the time it enters minds, not through lungs or through veins, but through eyes and ears. And his name is Donald Trump. He described Trump's actual policy proposals as ranging from immoral to absurd in a 2016 opinion column for USA Today. See, I've said this before. That is, the people who were never Trumpers in 2016, when we hadn't really seen what he was going to do, we only had his policies out there. He had good policies that he was saying.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Of course, he didn't act on them. And he did the greatest betrayal I've ever seen in my life in 2020. And so the people who are never Trumpers, people like Mark Levin or Ben Shapiro or Glenn Beck or whatever, just as in terms of the talking heads that I'm familiar with. And then, of course, the politicians that were out there. These are people who ultimately oppose limited government and conservatism. I don't care what they label themselves as. They didn't like his policies, period.
Starting point is 00:17:53 And then they came around when he won because they like power. And so that's what we're seeing here. We're seeing somebody who despised his policy proposals. He said they range from immoral to absurd. What were his policy proposals when he was running in 2016? Primarily, we're going to stop wars. We're going to end wars. Didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:18:18 We're going to stop Obamacare. Didn't do it. His campaign, as I've said before, had a great 10 or 12 point or 15 point i don't remember how many now they flushed it as soon as he got elected but it's a great proposal of market-based reforms to health care competition uh you having purchasing power you having the information to make intelligent decisions is this doctor is this hospital good or bad what is their record how many times have they been sued for malpractice we don't have any information we don't it's not an open marketplace it's you know prohibited for these companies to
Starting point is 00:18:56 compete against across state lines and so it's not open competition. We don't have the economic empowerment of even our own money, really, to be able to know what they're going to charge, know what their results are, negotiate things like that. We're flying blind. They keep us blind. They conceal all this stuff. And so there were a lot of things that were necessary from a market standpoint, a reform that were in that policy. And he didn't do it. And then we didn't do it. All the Mark Levins and Ben Shapiros and Glenn Becks loved it because, hey, this is a gravy train I can latch on to.
Starting point is 00:19:35 And this guy's not going to do anything. He's just a globalist. He went on to embrace Trump's populist right wing policies from supporting a national abortion ban with no exception for rape and incest to supporting the white supremacist great replacement theory. This is according to, um, the express out of the UK. Um, the great replacement theory is not white supremacist. It's fact is what their plans are. It is a great replacement.
Starting point is 00:20:02 There is no doubt about it. It has nothing to do with white supremacy. It has nothing to do with white supremacy. It has something to do with their racism, but it is not white supremacist. And he supported, they say he supported Russia's war on Ukraine. See, that's not true. Just because you oppose NATO's aggression
Starting point is 00:20:24 and because you want peace either one of those that doesn't mean that you support russia's war in ukraine he also does not believe in gay marriage among other things see now he's saying conservative things because back then as i said the new york times liked him npr liked him hillary clinton liked him hollyPR liked him, Hillary Clinton liked him, Hollywood liked him. Vance says about Trump, I like him. With the New York Times this month, he says, when they can say he's threatening the foundations of American society, I can't help but roll my eyes. And then what does Trump say about him in return? Well, he's one handsome son of a bee, right?
Starting point is 00:21:08 And that's all that matters. Trump picks people based on their appearance, sometimes based on the fact that Peter Thiel likes them. And Peter Thiel likes J.D. Vance a lot. A lot of connections. He worked for Peter Thiel. Peter Thiel gave him, depending on the sources, anywhere between $10 and $15 million in his Senate run.
Starting point is 00:21:31 But of course, shade advances for the little guy. He's not beholden to any big tech donors. He's not beholden to the elites, right? No, no, actually, he's very connected to them. Hey, movie starting, kiddo. Streaming service, $20. But mom, popcorn. Gro Streaming service, $20. But mom, popcorn. Grocery bill, $120.
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Starting point is 00:23:02 People are going to look at this and they're going to lose respect for the presidency. In other words, let me translate that for you. They look at Biden as many people are saying, what's going on? Who's running the country? Well, actually, nobody's running the country. The president is not running the country. The deep state is running the government. And they're increasingly trying to run the country. Well, what an absurd premise that somebody,
Starting point is 00:23:27 somebody or some group of people should run the country. See, I'm fundamentally and adamantly opposed to the idea that one person or a group of people in Washington should run the country. That's un-American. That's antithetical. That is totalitarianism. that's the path to that and i don't care whether these people are fascist socialist communist technocrats or whatever that
Starting point is 00:23:53 is a path for disaster and yet it is what people left and right democrat and republican want they want somebody who's going to run the country and even biden as he's trying to as he's struggling to show that he has the mental capacity to continue to work just put it that way what he says is hey i'm running a campaign and i'm running the world i'm running the world wow see that's the disqualification right there that's the disqualification right there. That's the disqualification that has characterized Joe Biden his entire life. The idea that government should run the country, run the world, run your lives. And yet that's what people want. And that was part of what J.D. Vance was talking about, the failure of rural America, when he talked about hillbilly elegy. Doug Burgum, 67, was on the short list, but a lot of people said he kind of fell out over being too much pro-life.
Starting point is 00:24:53 He had signed a very strong pro-life bill, and Trump wants to distance himself from that. I mean, they can still do deals, you know, with the summit pipeline and CO2 pipeline nonsense and this other kind of stuff. Uh, but, um, yeah, he also wants to get somebody who is younger. Doug Burgum is 67. Uh, but you know, that's JD Vance 40 years younger than, uh, Trump roughly. His big supporters, Donald Trump, Jr. Tucker Carlson. uh trump roughly his big supporters donald trump jr tucker carlson uh and of course tucker carlson thinks that because um uh his enemies hate jd vance that makes jd vance good he says he's got all the right enemies oh that's a stupid way to look at stuff but it's the way that people like
Starting point is 00:25:40 tucker carlson look at the world uh they don't have any hardcore principles that they want to see there they don't want to talk about policies again this is like competing cliques in a high school election except there's bigger stakes uh you know in high school election unless it's some kind of hollywood movie you typically don't kill the competition or jail them. The courtship of Trump began with a 2021 meeting at Mar-a-Lago, brokered by Peter Thiel, J.D. Vance's former boss. It caught light during one of the primary debates when Vance was only one of three Republicans on stage
Starting point is 00:26:18 to oppose the idea of a no-fly zone in Ukraine enforced by NATO, which is really stupid uh former president's son don jr spied the clip on twitter he said he was already a fan of hillbilly elegy he told friends and this is the way that he was able to reverse the effects these strong trump criticisms he got in through don trump jr and through peter teal vance has become one of trump's most visible defenders on television a hero to the hardline maga movement with his message of america first economic nationalism he credits his time in iraq and this is good with developing a skepticism for foreign intervention. That's real good.
Starting point is 00:27:07 So he had four years in the Marine Corps. And in those four years, he was sent to Iraq. And that was a good lesson, a good life lesson. And I think that might be something that is kind of foundational. Let's hope so. He has at times outflanked Trump to the right with a tougher line on abortion and a tougher line on sending aid to Ukraine, for example. Critics see a smart guy who has worked out how to rise to the top by ditching his never-Trump credentials. um the uh mark matt lewis um who is um a hardcore democrat hates the gop but he says um he probably rationalizes it a little bit which is to say i can take the good parts of nationalism and the good parts of populism i can soften it a little bit and i can use trump or trumpism as a vehicle
Starting point is 00:28:01 to do that so that's how you would sort of justify what is obviously rank hypocrisy and blind, overwhelming ambition, according to his critic. When confronted by Fox News' Brett Baier about his past quotes of Trump, he said, look, I was wrong about Donald Trump. I didn't think he was going to be a good president. He was a great president. I'm a never again Trumper. It's one of the reasons why I'm working so hard
Starting point is 00:28:33 to make sure he gets a second term. A close friend said the criticism missed how Vance had always bristled at the idea of being the Trump whisperer for coastal elites the explainer his friend who seems to be anonymous here one of the things he talks about is how he became very uncomfortable with the fact that the liberal media basically was using him as an avatar to explain trumpism to explain to us how these poor people in ohio like him that type of thing so again um when we look at his life you kind of sum it up from what i can glean of his personal story uh drugs and multiple divorces
Starting point is 00:29:16 of his mother not having a stable family life there uh perhaps he'll support strong families he seems to have learned that lesson. Sometimes people who have grown up in a situation like that are really strong supporters of families. In terms of foreign policy, his experience with the Marines in Iraq makes him skeptical of foreign intervention. That's good.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And then he grew up poor in the Rust Belt. So there was, at least at the beginning, an identification with the working class and trying to get back the fundamental prosperity that was in America instead of this polarization of just a few people owning everything, the global elites. But then he went to Yale after he was in the marines as a matter of fact he had according to him he had aced the act or the sat rather um he had aced that test but he didn't have enough self-confidence in himself to go to college he didn't think him so he enlisted in the marines and he said the marines really taught him a lot about character
Starting point is 00:30:23 about um you know organizing himself and so then when he gets out of the marines and he said the marines really taught him a lot about character about um you know organizing himself and so then when he gets out of the marines he does go to college he graduates summa cum laude highest that you can get and then he goes to yale law school then he starts social climbing and then he gets involved with skull and bones and all the rest of this he had a friend close friend they talked to they said well when people voted who was most likely to be present so that's what they do at Yale not not who's most likely to succeed but they got a very definite idea of what success is it's becoming president and so who was most likely to become president
Starting point is 00:31:07 he said i chose him and it's only one who chose him because i thought he had the right story the perspective the talent the intelligence all the rest of stuff and perhaps the hunger for doing it and that can be a dangerous thing then after he finishes with the yale elites then he makes establishment with the global technical elites he goes to silicon valley and he goes to work for peter teal and peter teal's mithril um venture capital firm he works for him a few years and then he goes to work for a guy who has another venture capital firm. This is the guy who started AOL. And he also gave a great deal of money to Vance people.
Starting point is 00:31:56 So they're not sure how much he gave to them. I thought, well, how does that work out? Maybe it was some kind of a political action committee or something like that. He did it. But nobody is exactly sure exactly how much money he gave him. But again, he connects with the technocracy, the global elite in Silicon Valley. His wife, by the way, her parents were Indian immigrants.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Her father was an engineer. She was born in San Diego. She, I think, met him atale uh she became a lawyer after yale because they were both in yale law school uh she clerked for john roberts she clerked for brett kavanaugh before he was put into the supreme court so very intelligent ambitious, rising incredibly quickly. He's quickly evolving, as a matter of fact. And so he's got a lot of different influences. It's hard to tell what his principles are going to be.
Starting point is 00:32:58 A lot of contradictions. And again, you know, we look three years ago when he was running for Senate. Hey, movie starting, kiddo. Streaming service, $20. But mom, popcorn. Grocery bill, $120. And can we keep the light on? Sure.
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Starting point is 00:34:06 to demystify this thing we're all searching for and hopefully find ways to be happy enough. You can find Happy Enough wherever you listen to podcasts. This article by Chris Zilla in 2021 said, Trump is still the king of the GOP and J.D. Vance just proved why that is. At that time, he was covering the Ohio Senate race. And he said, this isn't complicated. In 2016, Vance wasn't running for Senate, but now he is.
Starting point is 00:34:46 So what he said then was what he believed. What he's saying now, essentially totally disavowing what he said then, is born out of political necessity. So that's what's concerning. When somebody has such a dramatic 180 turn like that, he did not have a road to Damasascus experience there's no explanation for it except for political expediency and ambition he says what is the necessity well you got to kiss up to trump the political reality is that at the present moment 2021 and this has been the case
Starting point is 00:35:19 since at least 2017 is that you simply cannot win a contested republican primary unless you're outspokenly pro-trump nowhere is that fact on clear display then in ohio where an open seat created by the retirement of senator rob portman a republican has turned into a battle as to who can love trump more he says consider this you got joshel, former state treasurer. He tweeted a 10-second video last month of himself lighting a face mask on fire. My kind of guy. The tweet was accompanied by the word freedom and two emojis, one wearing a medical mask and the other flames. Well, he didn't say anything about Trump.
Starting point is 00:36:04 But then the rest of the guys did. Former state party chair Jane Timken ran ads in favor of Trump. The ads feature her going full sycophant. She said in the ad, nothing energizes our conservative grassroots more than a Trump rally. Then wealthy businessman Mike Gibbons, who served as co-chair for Trump's fundraising efforts in Ohio, said, I was his co-chair. I raised a lot of money for him. I gave a large
Starting point is 00:36:32 amount of money. I support his policies, period. And so, they said, what happened? You need more about this? They said, Politico reported on the gathering of these major candidates, except for J.D. Vance, at Trump's Mar-a-LD. Vance at Trump's Mar-a-Lago. So those three go to Mar-a-Lago. They said what ensued was a 15-minute backroom backbiting session
Starting point is 00:36:54 reminiscent of Trump's reality TV show. I've been calling it the Apprentice VP Selection, right? Mandel said he was crushing Tempkin in polling. Tempkin touted her support on the ground, thanks to her time as state party chair. Gibbons mentioned how he had helped Trump's campaign financially. Bernie Marino noted that his daughter had worked on Trump's 2020 campaign, etc. The Vance flip-flop, then, is simply the latest proof that there is no room for any candidate to have any views ever that are anything less than utterly supportive of Trump.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Any GOP candidate who is not already incumbent, this is in 2021, is going to have a very hard time winning. And as a matter of fact, we've got Mitch McConnell, of course, being booed at the RNC. One of the former leaders of the Republican Party. So we're going to take a quick break and when we come back, we're going to talk about how he got to this point. The things that influenced him as he was growing up. Because again, we don't know the man.
Starting point is 00:38:03 We don't know his policies. We're trying to get a take on it. But more important than this political stuff, because, again, our country is being run out of Washington, and the world is being run out of Washington, and that's not a good thing. And we shouldn't be begging for them to do a better job. We should be begging for them to leave us alone. Go away. Shut down your empire.
Starting point is 00:38:29 It's only going to lead to more wars and death and suffering. I don't care a whit about the American empire. I don't support the American government one way or the other. I support America. I support our freedoms that were there. I don't support this government. It has nothing to do with America or the Constitution or our history. It is antithetical and hostile to all of those things.
Starting point is 00:38:49 It is allied with the UN, with Davos, with these globalist elites who want to kill us all. It's a satanic, occultic group. It's not just skull and bones. It's the entire lot of them. And I'm disgusted with him. And I think his story is something that we need to take a look at on rumble m sellers david my husband came home from work last night and we gathered around the david knight show do we listen to yesterday's show well thank you i appreciate that and they
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Starting point is 00:40:11 And so we're also going to be talking about some of the financial issues as well. David Knight dot gold. That'll take you to Tony Arterburn's Wise Wolf Gold. And he has been a supporter of this show for a long time. And you might want to take a look at the chickens that are coming home to roost. You know, for the longest time, like Gerald Slenty said, we don't really know when this is going to happen. He says, I'm not a I don't do predictions. I look at trends and we know what the trend is for the dollar. We know what the trend is for taking away our financial privacy, getting us hooked into a surveillance system.
Starting point is 00:40:46 It's not just inflation this time around it's also cbdc and the real id and the you know global ids that they want to put out on people so start to make some preparation as much as you can against that you can do that on a regular basis at wise wolf gold you can set yourself up on a regular savings program, still get a group buying discount with Wolfpack. And of course, Tony can handle any transaction, small or large, with gold or silver. So we're going to take a quick break. Happiness. We all know what it feels like, but sometimes it doesn't come easy. I'm Garvey Bailey, the host of Happy Enough, a new podcast from The Globe and Mail about our pursuit of happiness. We know people want to live more fulfilling and positive lives, but how do we actually do that?
Starting point is 00:41:41 Is there a happiness code to crack? From our relationship with technology to whether money can really buy you happiness, we'll hear from both real people and experts to demystify this thing we're all searching for and hopefully find ways to be happy enough. You can find Happy Enough wherever you listen to podcasts. And we will be right back. Thank you. Sous-titres par LaVacheSquid so Making sense common again. You're listening to The David Knight Show. One of our listeners said, J.D. Bates was a Marine photographer when he was in the Marines. But he's still got to get through Marine basic training.
Starting point is 00:44:02 My respect for anybody who can get through that. I don't think I ever could have gotten through that. and maybe as a photographer that's what he was maybe that gave him uh enough of a view of war to be very skeptical of it and it's something that is uh welcome it is something that you typically don't see from the chicken hawks people like lindsey graham and others who've never been in the military never been in a war they don't seem to have the reservations aboutks, people like Lindsey Graham and others who've never been in the military, never been in a war. They don't seem to have the reservations about it. The people who've actually been in it do. So just being there as a witness, if that was all it was, is an important thing. But let's talk about his background. He went from a hillbilly broken home to becoming
Starting point is 00:44:42 a vice presidential nominee, uh, and perhaps a president. When you take a look at how young he is, uh, when you look even at, at Trump, uh, he is 78.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Ronald Reagan, I believe was 77 when he left the presidency and everybody was always talking about Reagan being very old. I remember the joke that he made in the second debate when he was debating against a Walter Mondale. He says, I won't, it was not that young. He says, I promise that I won't hold the youth and inexperience of my opponent against him and everybody laughed.
Starting point is 00:45:18 That was a great way. Perfect way to disarm the concerns about his age. We don't see that anymore. What we see are blank stares from Biden, not any jokes like that. I've got a message here from President Andrew Jackson. David, did you get to watch the movie In Time? Imagine time being swapped with carbon credits.
Starting point is 00:45:44 No, I've never seen that. I've gotten so far out of touch with movies. I just don't have the time anymore. You know, we sat down and only, I'm getting to the point where I don't even have time to watch a 10 minute video of, uh, you know, people falling and stuff or car crashes or something. I just, I watched stuff like that. It's just kind of a distraction. Uh, but I don't even have time for that anymore. We're the only people that no one feels ashamed to look down on, he said,
Starting point is 00:46:14 about the poor white people in rural Ohio. It was a rough upbringing. Vance's book describes his mother as highly unstable, sometimes violent, persistently addicted to prescription narcotics. His grandfather, Papa, as he called him, was frequently drunk, while his grandmother, Mama, was, quote, violent non-drunk, unquote,
Starting point is 00:46:38 prone to unpleasant stunts, such as dousing him in gasoline or serving him garbage on a plate. I've never had either one of those done to me by a parent. I'm very fortunate to have grown up in a loving home. And I really feel sorry for people who have gone through something like this. And anyway, he said, we're the only group of people other Americans don't have to be ashamed to look down upon. He said, never be like these losers who think the deck is stacked against them, said his grandmother. And that's a clip, actually, that was put into the trailer.
Starting point is 00:47:14 So, again, he spent four years in the Marine Corps. He said it was basically a four-year education in character and self-management. He said it helped him to abandon his learned helplessness and believe in his capacity to do difficult things. Like I said, he did great on the SAT, but he didn't feel like he could hack it in college. Then after he went in the Marines, he thought, well, I'll give it a try.
Starting point is 00:47:37 That's great. And he aced it. At Yale Law School, he met his future wife. In San Francisco, where the couple moved in 2015 he met peter teal who would later fund much of vance's campaign for the u.s senate oh another blake masters blake masters somebody that very uh red alert red alert exactly he's pals with the uh technocrat uh the singer who funded the singularity as well, right? I mean, talk about these satanic influences there.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Peter Thiel is about as satanic as it gets. He and Musk and these people, they think they're going to live forever. They're going to merge with machines and all the rest of this stuff. In 2017, having worked at Thiel's firm for about two years, he joined another investment firm, Revolution. That was, again, run by the former CEO of AOL. Vance had been working on a book at Yale. He was encouraged to pursue the project by his professor, who had written a parenting memoir called Battle Hymn of the Tiger mother that had been a big hit in 2014
Starting point is 00:48:45 he said i don't think anybody wants to read about me but when he published it um it was a big success despite not having written it with trump in mind says the independent his book was hailed across the political spectrum as a welcome explanation for the destabilizing crisis that appeared to be emanating from middle america as trump continued his combative outrageous unexpected rise to power rod dreyer who wrote a book called live not by lies referencing solzhenitsyn rod dreyer called it one of the best books i've ever read he said you can't understand what's happening now without first reading jd vance the washington post called him the one of the best books I've ever read. He said, you can't understand what's happening now without first reading J.D. Vance. The Washington Post called him the voice of the Rust Belt and the Trump whisperer.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Vox called him the reluctant interpreter of Trumpism. He had little patience for traditional conservatives who see no role for wider economic forces in these problems. And he wrote scathingly of the elitism and the bigotry of upper class Americans toward his people. Well, when he talks about when the independent is saying that he doesn't see any role for wider economic forces in these problems, what they're talking about is government programs and so he hasn't quite gotten past this idea that big government is going to pull us out of the problem again there's this contradiction he also tore into what he saw as a culture of learned helplessness arguing working-class whites had shirked the duty of making wise choices because they believed their choices would not and could not matter. See, this is where it is interesting to talk about his story,
Starting point is 00:50:31 where it hits home where we live. Because, folks, what's going on in Washington? It might as well be arguing over who's going to take Klaus Schwab's place in Davos. I don't care. I want to know what these people are about. I want to know take Klaus Schwab's place in Davos. I don't care. I want to know what these people are about. I want to know what Klaus Schwab is about. But they shouldn't have this power. We should shut them off.
Starting point is 00:50:52 And we should shut off Washington just like we ought to shut off the UN. Same thing right now. Same thing. Except that Washington is far more dangerous than the UN. Or than Davos. Because it's got so much money. so much power, such a large army. He said, I once ran into an old acquaintance at a Middletown bar. That's the town in Ohio where he grew up, who told me that he had recently quit his job because he was sick of waking up early.
Starting point is 00:51:20 See? Later, I saw him complaining on Facebook about the Obama economy and how it had affected his life. You see, here's the lesson. You start with yourself. And how many times have we seen this? This is my argument on a daily basis to the MAGA people. Stop looking to Trump as your savior or stop looking at Biden and Obama as the people who are holding you down. You're holding yourself down if you're not doing this. It's up to you. You start with yourself.
Starting point is 00:51:54 You start with your family. You move out from the community. But you start with God. When you're going to start with yourself, what's the first thing you do? Get yourself right with God. If you got peace with God, that's going to give you a kind of contentment that you can't get any other way. It's going to give you a foundation that you can't get any other way.
Starting point is 00:52:13 It's going to give you a joy and a peace that you can't get any other way. Happiness. We all know what it feels like, but sometimes it doesn't come easy. I'm Garvey Bailey, the host of Happy Enough, a new podcast from The Globe and Mail about our pursuit of happiness. We know people want to live more fulfilling and positive lives, but how do we actually do that? Is there a happiness code to crack?
Starting point is 00:52:41 From our relationship with technology to whether money can really buy you happiness, we'll hear from both real people and experts to demystify this thing we're all searching for and hopefully find ways to be happy enough. You can find Happy Enough wherever you Listen to podcasts. So you start with that. He said, there is a cultural movement in the white working class to blame problems on society or the government. And that movement gains adherence by the day. That's what I've been saying for the longest time. You used to only see this, and it popped up first, in poor Democrat areas, rural areas, typically urban black areas.
Starting point is 00:53:34 They blame their poverty on society, or they blame their poverty on government. So the solution is going to be getting the right person there in government is going to help you. But now this diseased way of thinking has gone over to the Republicans. They want everything fixed in Washington. The poor whites in the rural areas now want everything fixed in Washington, just like the urban black poor. And so they want a guy in Washington who's going to fix it. And their whole life, they believe, depends on who is in Washington.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Do you understand what a powder keg that has created? We're talking about assassinations. Why do we have things like that? It's because people think that their life is nothing if the wrong person is in the White House. And it's interesting to me that these people who concentrate all power to themselves are getting hoisted by their own petard, blown up by their own barrel of gunpowder, if you will, because they create this perception that everything in our life depends upon Washington. And if it depends on Washington, then the stakes are so high that people are going to kill whoever is in that office if they don't like that person in that office because their
Starting point is 00:54:51 life depends on it. Your life doesn't depend on Washington. Don't think that. Don't give them that kind of power over you. You know, I remember when I interviewed Scottott adams because he you know right after the election he was going very political the guy had the delbert cartoon i i totally disagree with him totally but he had a good insight after the election he said you know the problem with hillary clinton her campaign slogan was i'm with. It was all about her. He goes, Trump made it about
Starting point is 00:55:28 America. Let's make America great again. But you know, when you look at that slogan, even in that regard, what Scott Adams didn't see then was the fact that if Trump can make America great again, Trump is selling himself as a solution to your problems. And that's even more dangerous than just being honest about the fact that you're a narcissist. Hillary Clinton was honest about the fact that she was a narcissist. But Trump is as well. The difference is Trump is telling you that he can fix your life. He's telling you that he can fix your life. He's telling you that he can fix America. Well, the only thing the president can do to fix America is to get out of the way.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Presidents don't create jobs. They don't create a good economy. They can ruin the economy. They can put people out of business, as Trump did in 2020. All the non-essential, small main street people he put out of business. But it's an equally bankrupt idea to think that your life's going to be fixed by somebody in Washington.
Starting point is 00:56:35 See, Trump is able to sell collectivism and dependency to people who had not embraced that before. He sold it in a much larger degree than anybody has ever been able to sell that to poor whites, for example. Collectivism and government dependency. And then he locked everybody down and said,
Starting point is 00:56:57 you can't do a job, you can't travel, you can't go to school, you can't go to church. And I'll give you some money for that. Here, I'll give you a little bit of stimulus check. Creating dependency. Creating debt. It was a controversial thesis with many left-wingers accusing him of blaming the poor for problems inflicted on them from above, in terms of talking about his book, Hillbilly Elegy.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Vance made one other thing very clear. He thought Trump was part of the problem. He said Trump's promises are the needle in America's collective vein. He's absolutely right about that. That's what I'm saying. It is a drug addiction to think the government is going to fix your life. Your government is MAGA. Your hope is in MAGA.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Your hope is MAGA. You know, your hope is in MAGA. Your hope is in Trump. And that's a kind of idolatry, as I've tried to point out so many times. But Trump's promises, he said, and he was right about it, are the needle in America's collective vein. He said this campaign is cultural heroism of Trump's 2016 campaign. He said it offers an easy escape from complex problems. And it's a false promise. And it's a false promise in 2016.
Starting point is 00:58:17 It was a false promise in 2020. And it's a false promise today. Regardless of which candidate, Republican or Democrat of the unit party, is telling you they've got an easy fix for complex problems and they're going to fix your life. That person is a member of the demagogue party. In an interview with NPR, he said, I can't stomach Trump. I think he's noxious. He's leading the white working class to a very dark place.
Starting point is 00:58:46 To a friend, he privately texted, I go back and forth between thinking trump is a cynical a-hole like nixon that wouldn't be all that bad might even prove useful or that he is america's hitler how's that for discouraging he told his friend well that's where he was and he, the ruling class are robbing us blind. So what did he do? He joined the ruling class. That's what he did. He's a smart guy. He understood that the ruling class is robbing us blind. So he joined them.
Starting point is 00:59:18 And he gets a $10 million donation from Peter Thiel. He gets a lot of money from Robert Mer mercer got a lot of money from the other guy the venture capital firm aol founder he said if you look at every issue in this country every issue i believe traces back to this fact on the one hand the elites in the ruling class in this country are robbing us blind and on the other if you dare complain about it you're a bad person uh i i think of dave chapelle's uh thing when he talked about trump he said trump is really something else you know trump comes out of the building you know where all the insiders are meeting and all the big guys and everything and he tells you what's going on there he tells you how they're going to rip you off they're going to fleece you one way or the other and he goes and then he goes back inside and he joins him again and that's what trump is
Starting point is 01:00:09 that's what jd vance is he's a 40 year old younger version of trump i think he's smarter but he's uh maybe more ambitious as well he knows what's needed but i don't know that he's going to do it he said i did say those critical things and i regret them i regret being wrong about the guy i think he was a good president i think he made a lot of good decisions for people and i think he took a lot of flack well he's still walking around free so obviously he hasn't taken enough flack for what he did in 2020 with the vaccines the lockdowns the mass murder with ventilators and remdesivir and the rest of this stuff. He is proposed to criminalize. So here's some of Vance's issues.
Starting point is 01:00:54 He's proposed to criminalize gender transition health care for under 18s to cut off block taxpayer funding for adult transgender health care, too. Well, I agree with with those he's also been a staunch opponent of usa to ukraine saying it would be in america's best interest to accept that ukraine is going to have to cede some territory to the russians and quite frankly zielinski is now pushing to meet with putin he can see as people are looking at this it looks like okay well the trump crowd is going to get the, whoever's running the Trump administration, there's going to be a change of policy. And so Zelensky who didn't want to meet with Putin and Biden, who says, I don't
Starting point is 01:01:35 want to meet with him, you know, in his meeting that he had in his interview, should, should say that he had this last week is I'm not meeting with Putin. Um, but, uh, Zelensky wants to meet with him now. Cause he doesn't think Biden's going to be making this and that's what what people are looking at um he was elected the senate in 2022 um he um he closed deals when he was working venture capital again with peter teals uh mithril capital capital then with revolution steven case is the guy's name the aol founder um his when he was working in venture capital uh this is also very interesting in terms of his background he was involved in military technology and ai because folks ai is military technology ai is there to accelerate
Starting point is 01:02:28 surveillance biometric surveillance and all the rest of this stuff it is the perfect tool for that that's why it was developed by the military industrial complex why it was darpa that was pushing uh ai from the very beginning it's all about the military you know the chat gpt stuff and everything's just there for your entertainment uh this is about weaponized technocracy artificial intelligences it's about the police state the surveillance state perpetual war totalitarianism that's what ai is about so he's involved in that and military intelligence military technology he made a lot of connections ranging from ai startup founders to chase coke the billionaire son of ceo of coke industries in 2019 he left to start naria capital another venture capital fund that drew investors like teal like mark andreessen one of the big VC people, venture capitalists.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Some people call them vulture capitalists. And Eric Schmidt, pure evil, Eric Schmidt. Eric Schmidt, who's become one of the biggest guys in the military industrial complex, and he's doing it very quietly. Always there. Remember the interview that I had with a guy who was talking about artificial intelligence. Of course, the main thrust of the book was about how we're going to fight a war with
Starting point is 01:03:51 China. And in it, he kept talking about the footprint of Eric Schmidt. And so we're going to pick up with this when we come back. But I'm really anxious to talk to our guest. We scheduled him in the second hour today because of his he's in a great deal of demand obviously somebody who's had a lot of experience working in the secret service and i'm very interested to see what he
Starting point is 01:04:18 has to say about what happened over the weekend but i'm also interested in seeing his life view somebody who is always, every day he goes to work, he's thinking about taking a bullet. And the name of his book is Cheating Death. And he's talked about that, and that's what I really am excited to talk to him about. But we'll also talk about the Trump assassination attempt. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back with Ken Valentine. Thank you. You're listening to The David Knight Show. All right, joining us now is Ken Valentine.
Starting point is 01:06:35 He has worked in the Secret Service. He worked under three presidential Secret Service details. We'll find out how many years he worked with him. But there was an excellent quote from Dan Bongino in support of his book. I haven't read his book, but I wanted to get him on because he wants to talk about his view of life, what that gave him working in the Secret Service.
Starting point is 01:06:58 It's called Cheating Death. Dan Bongino said this about his book. He said, there's three people I've met in my life who've had as deep of an impact on me as Secret Service agent Ken Valentine. His new book, Cheating Death, is a masterpiece about leadership and perspective in a difficult world. His stories from his time in the Secret Service are overlaid with leadership and with life lessons that he learned in a way that readers will embrace and appreciate. So I'm very interested to talk to him, even though I haven't seen the book. So welcome, Ken Valentine.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Thank you for joining us. Yes, sir. Proud to be with you. Thank you. Tell us a little bit about, first of all, how long you were there under three different presidents. How long did you work for the Secret Service? Sure.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Well, my career spanned from 1996 to 2020. So 24 years with the service. I was on the president's detail two times for a total of 10 years. Started at the end of Bill Clinton's term, so I was with him for his last year. And then the first four years with President George W. Bush, bounced around the country in headquarters doing different things. And then I was promoted back at the start of the the president obama administration served another five years so that was my tenure i i retired as the special agent in charge of dignitary protective division i want to talk to you about what happened over this last weekend but before we do real quickly the title cheating
Starting point is 01:08:20 death that also got my attention because that is the kind of thing every day that you guys are going to work you never know if there's going to is the kind of thing every day that you guys are going to work. You never know if there's going to be some kind of a violent attack, if you're going to have to take a bullet for the president. I guess it's kind of like living with cancer for a very long time, isn't it? Talk about that. Absolutely. And since that's been in our family, my wife cheated death, beat breast cancer. So cheating death was a term that we threw around when I was on the president's detail among the agents. It was just it was kind of a way to to to prod each other a little bit. It was a good reminder of the importance of the mission and what's going to happen if we don't do our job, if we don't pay attention to detail, if we don't follow through on the methodology, the protocol, but it was also a lighthearted way to just punch each other and
Starting point is 01:09:07 a little joking kind of inner circle. The book was close to having another title that wasn't nearly as good, but thankfully we came to that at the end. Kind of graveyard humor there as you're doing a very difficult job. And as you point out, what can happen, cheating death, what can happen if you don't pay attention to the details? Now, what we saw over the weekend was an astonishing lack of attention to detail. I can't believe what was happening with that. First of all, how did the shooter get into the event carrying a gun?
Starting point is 01:09:41 How did he get onto a roof that was that close to the clear line of sight talk a little bit about your impressions about this yeah you know uh having done this for 24 years and and sort of lived and breathed that um even though that's what we prepared for it was still a bit shocking uh to see someone that that we've been given the mission to protect whisked off the stage bleeding from a gunshot wound. That is not supposed to happen. You've been given a mission. It is an enormous responsibility, but it's a privilege that comes with consequence if you don't do it right. The Secret Service Director came out early this morning, thankfully.
Starting point is 01:10:23 She's someone that I've known for a long time and encounter as a friend. But it's Tuesday. This happened Saturday. And thankfully, we're taking ownership for that. There's no way around that. So there were failures. Every time you set up a site, it takes an enormous amount of time, enormous amount of collaboration and effort.
Starting point is 01:10:47 And, you know, we're not the know-it-alls. We have a lot of experience in that. But we always lean into other partners, federal, state, and local partnerships to do that. But at the end of the day, the Secret Service has the final say. We sign off on it, and we coordinated that so you've got to take ownership for that i was glad to see her do that this morning yeah because what we saw for the first several days was finger pointing back and forth uh well that was local uh job they should have done this or done that and they said they were ones running the show they were coordinating
Starting point is 01:11:21 everything you know and so yeah so i guess she has finally said something about that. I saw a quote from an individual who said, I've been to five Trump rallies. And at four of the five, we went through wanding and all kinds of stuff about weapons and everything. But he goes, not at this one. They just waved me through. And so I guess that's my question. You know, I mean, that kind of thing would catch somebody that's got a concealed pistol or something but how do you get into an event like that carrying a rifle and who knows what else yeah that that doesn't make any sense to somebody like me uh that just does not
Starting point is 01:11:57 compute you know weapons and secured events uh this don't come out of the same mouth. So the perimeter was set up, again, it's an architecture and every single one is different. It's like a painting or something. And so they're all different. If it was cookie cutter, you could easily say, well, what was the security failure? I think in this instance, with the way the security perimeter was drawn and where this building was, obviously the final outcome was failure. But I think the investigation is going to reveal probably multiple mini steps of failure. But the game of protection is prevention. And when we don't prevent bullets from flying into what we would call a secured event, the word failure ought to be at the forefront of the confession there because that is just failure. You can't have that.
Starting point is 01:12:59 And they did. did so i i the you know that the impressive thing to me was watching and and i know some of these individuals that that did react and you know the security is made up of layers it's then there shouldn't be a single point of failure so i'll be interested to see what the investigation reveals and and how any of those points led to failure. But the reaction by the shift, what we would call the working shift around President Trump, was pretty fast. It was quick. It was coordinated. They did exactly what we were trained to do. The unfortunate part of that is that they were reacting to bullets flying and President Trump's own reaction to being hit and most of
Starting point is 01:13:48 the time that is just simply too late yeah and you we train for that but you don't ever want to be in that situation i would much rather have seen them with that kind of quick reaction having received verbal um you know information that we have identified a shooter on the roof. We're in the process of neutralizing, but, you know, get him out. And that didn't happen. I don't know why that didn't happen. I'll be, you know, waiting just like everybody else to see, you know, what were the sequence of events here that led to bullets flying into a secured area? And of course, now we're seeing things coming out from local law enforcement saying that there were reports of him walking around 30 minutes ahead of time
Starting point is 01:14:28 but i guess one of the questions that i have is um why wasn't there wouldn't it be standard procedure for there to be somebody on that roof uh if it's that close or or do they just kind of watch it i mean the other part of it is we saw the guy who was kind of elevated as a sniper and he seemed to be pointing his gun at that guy did did he have to have special orders to shoot the guy if he sees somebody laying prone in a position with a rifle does he have to have some special permission to take action or how does that work well i'll address that first the secret service counter snipers operate on a green light, so they don't need permission. They need a circumstance that warrants taking the shot. So they're, you know, I've heard
Starting point is 01:15:13 some of those stories too. And so all I can say is that the entire time that I was there, the snipers are your best friend. They are your overlord. They are watching way beyond your back, taking care of you. And so that the working shift around the president can maintain their focus a lot closer in. The snipers are incredibly well-trained and disciplined. But like everybody else, I saw the photos and now videos of what they were looking at. And typically the snipers work in tandem. You have a shooter and a spotter and they both can become shooters. But one person is using the binoculars for looking around. Sometimes they're both doing that. But as soon as they have a a threat identified then one gets on the rifle the other maintains spotting and and you coordinate that shot um but it it just seemed
Starting point is 01:16:13 like there was some kind of delay and i don't know if that was in acquisition i don't know if it but it should not the delay should not and would not in my experience come from any kind of permission because they have the green light to do what needs to be done real time, all the time. Yeah, that's one of the questions that I have, because I looked at the video and there is a video where he seems like he's acquired the guy. And then he takes his eye off of the of the eyepiece and then you hear a bunch of shots. And then whoever is filming it with a phone phone they start moving around and you lose any visual of what is happening what I read was that somebody else then at a further distance rather than 150 yards somebody that was about 450 yards and then took him out I I don't know that's just what I've
Starting point is 01:16:57 seen people say but what seems strange to me was that you know he seemed to have acquired him then pull back and took his head removed his head away from the eyepiece. And then you hear all the shots happening there. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be interesting. I think the other question with respect to the to the counter snipers is how many teams were in place. It's a little unusual in my experience to see just one team because there's a lot of ground to cover. You know, you asked if
Starting point is 01:17:26 it was typical or, you know, you would expect this or that. And again, every security venue and event is so different. So the architecture, the infrastructure is going to be different. And so I would be curious to know how many sniper teams there were and what their area of responsibility was. And if this team that we keep seeing the videos of, if that was within their area of responsibility, then they should have been seeing a shooter on the roof. The coordination to your first question about how someone would get access to that roof and wouldn't it be part of the protocol to not allow anyone on the roof? I can tell you in my experience, people get on the roofs all the time. And the way we mitigate that, we try to prevent people from getting on roofs through locked doors, through posting police officers and agents.
Starting point is 01:18:25 And then you also utilize roving counter surveillance and identification teams that patrol in those areas. And so it's a little hard for me to even appreciate the notion that this guy, number one, got access, scaled this building without some kind of communication going out. Or number two, the rumors that I've heard is that he was up there for quite a while. So a little hard for me to digest that because it just doesn't square with my experience that this would go, you know, it's certainly not going to be casually dismissed. Someone's on a roof. That's a direct threat to the security of the venue. So I wish I knew. It'll come out.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Certainly more information is coming out on a daily basis. When you said you wish you knew how many sniper teams there were, the reports that the Trump campaign had asked for more coverage and had not received it. And, of course, they denied RFK Jr. any coverage, but now they have changed that for RFK Jr. Do you think that might be something that was in play? I know it's too soon to say, but might that be a possible explanation for why there wasn't something more done about the venue? Even though they had people there to screen people, they just weren't doing it coming in. But, you know, in terms of the roof or something like that and coverage of the roof, there was a personnel maybe.
Starting point is 01:19:56 I don't know. Yeah, that's another difficult thing for me to get past me is the idea that people were coming into the venue that were not being screened for weapons. That's a little hard to take. It's a huge crowd. It's right up against the RNC. Use of magnetometers should have been there. So I've been working under the assumption that they were there. And i'm going to maintain that assumption i i'll be very disappointed if if people were coming into that venue without without passing through a magnetometer and being cleaned up there's there's no point in having a perimeter if you're not screening people coming in there that that means there really is a lot of yeah
Starting point is 01:20:42 that's right uh well that i think uh we pretty much covered what happened over the weekend. Let's talk about your experiences. I'm sure you had some very interesting experiences personally over 24, 25 years. I tell you, I loved my career. I had a storybook career, and I wouldn't trade one day of it for anything. I loved it. It's a passion of mine. And when I went back to the president's detail for a second tour, I served as a shift leader.
Starting point is 01:21:16 And that's kind of the operational quarterback of the president's detail. And that was such a fun job. It typically has a one-year burnout. I did it for two years and seven months, and they had to throw me out to get me to stop doing it because I just loved it so much. And it's a great mission. It's good. I think it's just part of my DNA to want a mission-driven job. And, you know, the fact that you can't fail at anything drives you.
Starting point is 01:21:47 It can wear you out. But I still loved it. What was your background? What got you into that? That's such an unusual job, actually, I think. What got you into that? Not too many people get into becoming a Secret Service agent. Yeah, I'd be glad to tell you that story because my dad and my uncle were both FBI agents. So I broke family tradition and they talked me into going to law school. So I went to Purdue
Starting point is 01:22:14 undergrad and then Mississippi College for law school. But they finally got me diverted. My dad had the opportunity in a Ronald Reagan visit, to participate in the intelligence aspect of the advance. And, you know, he got to engage with the agents, be brought in to see the culture behind the scenes. And, you know, he was comparing that, the FBI culture to Secret Service culture, knowing his son, he said, you know, if you just insist on going into federal law enforcement, I'm going to push you to secret service. And, and so he did. I think that was wise. I, I enjoyed it. I loved it and, and wouldn't trade. Now, you know, we all see
Starting point is 01:22:55 the presidents all the time, but you get to see them behind the scenes. Uh, how different is it seeing them behind the scenes versus their public persona? Well, it really depends on the president. And I don't want to hand anyone out necessarily. I can tell you this. I am near and dear to my heart because I spent four years with him, George W. Bush. There was no on-camera persona whatsoever. So I can safely say that he didn't have a different persona at all. There was no, oh, the cameras are on, let me change, because he was just that genuine. So I did appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:23:40 We had an incident, several several where he saved us. So we know he was very much dear to me and appreciated his his demeanor toward us. And, you know, we certainly weren't friends. It didn't like that. But the only time he called me by my name was was when my family came in for a departure photo when my time was up. So it was a very professional relationship that's great and he didn't have a dog that bit you either right he had dogs and i remember one time i had to to pick pick it was i can't remember which dog it was probably barney uh up and carry
Starting point is 01:24:18 the dog to him and you know some of my colleagues are like really dude you're you're you're carrying the dog and i'm like look uh if i don't pick this dog up and carry the dog to him, he's going to stop, come back and get the dog. I said, this is just quicker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk a little bit about what you saw in terms of insights you got in terms of leadership and integrity and things like that. Can you talk about that in a general way? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:47 That's part of my heartbeat now. It's part of what I'm doing. I serve on the board at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children at the Well House and on another technology company called Base Molecular Resonance Technology. And leadership is what I'm teaching and preaching. In fact, I'm in Pittsburgh. This is my glorious studio, is my hotel room here. But I'm at the International Conference of Police Chaplains to speak to them about leadership.
Starting point is 01:25:14 And I serve as a Point Man Leadership Institute teacher. And so we're going to talk about leadership, even amongst chaplains. And my, you know, leadership mantra that I lead with in the book is to keep it simple and continue with direction over perfection. And so I talk about vision, the importance of vision, discipline, and integrity. And those are my big three. I feel like all the other, you know, attributes of leadership can fit somehow into one of those three categories. And if you major on the major with those three, then it's a little hard to go wrong. Vision and integrity. What was the third one that you mentioned?
Starting point is 01:25:57 Discipline. Discipline. Let's talk about that vision thing because that's something George W.'s father talked about. How would you define vision for people uh you know sometimes vision has to do more with faith than it does with sight um in in the book i talk about uh vision and i and i talk about an outing with president obama and with tiger woods and we came up to the 18th hole at the Floridian and it'd been a long day uh Tiger Woods was enjoying talking to me a lot more than President Obama for some reason it was very uncomfortable
Starting point is 01:26:31 but uh President Obama got up to the 18th hole and and I'm not a golfer but the the fairway was off to the right and then it jutted back to the left to the green he hit a nice shot almost to that clearing. Tiger Woods gets up to hit his shot. And I talk about the importance of being able to see differently than everybody else. And so I said, sometimes it's more about faith than sight. Tiger Woods didn't hit the ball to the right. He didn't go straight for the green. And we've been talking about the collaborative nature of the Secret Service and our security infrastructure. And I pointed out the Coast Guard boat out on the water to the left and the Coast Guard helicopter up above. And we had agents on the boat and agents in the helicopter.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Tiger Woods launches the ball out to the left, out over the water. And I really thought for a second he was trying to give the Coast Guard and the agent out there a left out over the water and i really thought for a second he was trying to give the coast guard and the agent out there a souvenir but the ball uh took off and kept rising rising rising and then it started slicing back to the right coming back to earth lands on the the left edge of the green rolling toward the the hole and it's just like well tiger woods looked at this problem and saw it differently than everybody else out there. He had some skills. He had some tools, experience, and know-how that gave him a vision for getting this ball in this hole different than other people.
Starting point is 01:27:56 And when I was about a year into the president's detail, you had to pick a specialty. And they selected for me because I wanted to do other stuff. But they put me in the transportation section, and that's the folks who drive the limousine and work out the motorcade routes and all that planning. You have to pass the protective operations driving course, and it's not an easy thing, but that's where you learn all those cool driving maneuvers, and you learn to go fast and to steer and brake and do the crazy turns and all that stuff. But, you know, to stay in the transportation section, you had to pass protective operations driving course. And to pass, you had to make it through the obstacle course in a certain amount of time without hitting cones.
Starting point is 01:28:41 And every cone you hit took time off of your score. And, you know, we're approaching the end and nobody's passing. And our instructor finally said, do you want to know the secret to managing the obstacle course? And of course we all did. And he said, we've taught you how to brake. We've taught you how to use the accelerator and the steering wheel. But the key to navigating the obstacle course is your eyes. And if you look at the cones, you will hit the cones. But if you look to where your goal is, the little bitty opening at the very end of this
Starting point is 01:29:15 big banana curve, you'll hit that. And so your hands and your eyes work together when you've got good vision. And so you have to lift your gaze. And I, you know, I point to scripture saying that, you know, he, he wants us to fix our eyes upon him. He wants us to lift our gaze off the problems and the troubles of life. When we look down, we see problems, we get bogged down. When we lift, when we look up and lift our gaze, then we tend to hit where we're gazing. So that's, for me, that's a little nutshell about vision and something that I enjoy talking about. Yeah, that's a great lesson.
Starting point is 01:29:53 And, you know, in the middle of talking a lot about money and its effect and how we treat it, Christ said, you know, if the light of the eye is is darkness how dark is it on the inside of your body it's what you're looking at right what are you focused are you looking as you pointed out are you looking at the problems are you looking at the things that you want that you don't have and that type of thing if you do you're going to miss the goal it's going to become your master uh that that's a very important lesson i really that. But I can't go away from the driving thing without finding out. You know how to do Rockford turns? Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Yes. That's one of the things they teach you. We call them a J-turn. Yeah. And you have to master the J-turn or you can't make it through because it's part of the obstacle course. You have to, you know, drive down into a dead end and then do the J-turn and you have to do it fast. In a limousine no less not a sports car that's the key thing and and i've seen pictures of them uh navigating a cone thing
Starting point is 01:30:51 backwards is that part of it as well it is wow wow that's very impressive um yeah that's that is really impressive uh driving skills there uh talk a little bit about how it affected your family life. Well, there's a huge impact on the family life, and that's another thing that I do talk about in Cheating Death is the impact on the family, and I'm very thankful to have a wife who was not only supportive, but encouraged me to get out there and do that, and so I have a chapter in there about decision making, and, and I talk about the importance of including, you know, your, your
Starting point is 01:31:31 spouse in the decision making process. But, you know, what I found is that if the two of us are, are one, and we're seeking him, then those decisions tend to come out better than if I just go on my own strength and my own understanding and then inform her. I have some examples in the book where I did that, and they don't come out very well. So I learned the value of seeking her advice, her counsel, and agreement in making these decisions and then navigating a job that is not family friendly. It just isn't. So I took on focus on the family because they put out an article about a Secret Service agent who quit. And they hold him up as the example of what you must do if you're going to be a good husband and a true father to your children.
Starting point is 01:32:20 And I said, I'm not sure about that. I can't find a biblical example of anyone that God told you lay up because I've got someone else to do this mission for you. I see plenty of examples of men in particular who were told, you know, go out and and do as I say, leave your home. But but it's it you know, this career wouldn't have been much of a career without her support uh without her so much of the time taking care of the family and you know that carries forward to today my my mother is in the hospital i have an open heart surgery tomorrow my mother said you must go just go i'll be fine my wife I got it, and I want you to go slay the dragon. So here I am in Pittsburgh doing what I had planned to do, but not without tremendous support from the family. That's such a great example. A difficult career, constantly traveling,
Starting point is 01:33:19 often away from your family, a situation where your life really is in danger frequently, more so than in many other law enforcement jobs, perhaps. And so it is, I think, probably going to be one of the more interesting parts of your book. Like I said, I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but I think to see what those family dynamics are there and how a family can work. We have lost sight of that in America, haven't we? We have indeed. It's just such a tragedy that we have so many homes that don't have a
Starting point is 01:33:55 solid foundation. They don't have the infrastructure. In the Point Man Leadership Institute, we talk about these ten foundational principles and then the eight character traits that flow from that. And so many homes don't have grandparents or two parents to give guidance, to share those principles with children. And so I fear for the future with a generation, generations to come that haven't had that infrastructure. They haven't had that teaching and that training. So where do you turn? What's right from wrong?
Starting point is 01:34:29 And, you know, where are we going to go from here? But we do have five children and we're, you know, so blessed to have two girls and three boys. And that's really, that was the audience for the book originally, was just trying to pass that legacy of faith and leadership of decision decision-making, even when it gets hard, on to the next generation. That's really important. As you're talking about family, you know, we don't have, because everybody is so mobile, because people follow careers around. And, you know, even in engineering that I was in, we would, you know, people would frequently advance their career by going to work for another company. And that might be a move across the country. That's so common
Starting point is 01:35:08 today that we've lost the multi-generational family that used to have when we were more of an agrarian society and people would know their grandparents, maybe even their great grandparents. Then it got reduced to a nuclear family, just a mom and dad and the kids. And now with divorce, that's become so common we do have split that atom i guess so the nuclear family has kind of gone through a real radical fission i think your experience and being able to hold this together in a very high pressure job like that uh there's a lot for you to uh to tell people i think about that tell us a little bit about um well i got another question when you said you had take on focus on the family was there a report about a guy who was in this high pressure
Starting point is 01:35:48 job and he quit it so that he could uh work with his family was that what they were talking about yeah yeah that was the article uh it was about a very young secret service agent that lived in washington and and was supporting the the uh the full-time details on probably a part-time basis. But yeah, it talked about how he missed birthdays and he missed this and that and how he just gave that up so that he could spend more time with the family. And what I was trying to do was give my kids an example of how to go about making a hard decision. And I said, I, I don't think that's the,
Starting point is 01:36:27 that's the most important factor. I, I, because I just can't find a biblical example where it says, you know, if it's easy, that must be the right way. It just like,
Starting point is 01:36:36 uh, God has a, has a grander plan and it's not quite that simple. So I, I, I lay out what for me has been a good way to go about making decisions. And so you pray, you seek wise counsel, you dive into Scripture and then you wait. Psalm 37 says
Starting point is 01:36:55 trust, delight, commit and then be still and wait for the Lord and see what He says. And that's been a good model for me to follow. It's not the only way to go about making a decision, but certainly when they tried to say that if it impacts your family negatively, then it must be wrong. It seemed like a poor working model for how to make a decision. And again, just finding that biblical example of that was a little tough.
Starting point is 01:37:26 Meanwhile, a lot of examples of biblical figures who are told to go and do hard things. And God will be with you as you do hard things. That's right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. But again, a part of it, I guess, is trying to figure out what it is that God is calling you to do. Maybe that guy, that wasn't his calling. Maybe that wasn't something that was really a good fit with him because he couldn't figure out how to manage it.
Starting point is 01:37:50 You were able to manage a very difficult thing that most people would really struggle with because you really were called to do that, I think. I'm a huge supporter of Focus on the Family. And when I talk about that in the book, that is exactly what I say. Obviously, God's will was done in this fellow's life, and praise God for that. He found another job and pursued that. But what I took issue with was the working model of how to make a good decision, which didn't, didn't seem to square, uh, for me. And so I, that's what I was trying to provide my kids. And now the, the audience of cheating death with was a, was a working model of how to make a good decision.
Starting point is 01:38:36 And I think that in our society, we, we've lost the idea that we should try to do the hard thing. I think that's a really important thing that has been lost. And so I think that's another aspect of your experience that's very valuable. So you talk a little bit about faith and how that plays a role in terms of your prayer, in terms of reading and understanding as well as you can God's will, but then also praying about it and waiting and trying to get direction on that. How did that all play out?
Starting point is 01:39:10 And what type of things are you doing now that you have retired from the Secret Service that are part of your Christian faith? Yeah, faith. You know, I actually didn't become a follower of Jesus Christ until I was in law school. And I was in law school. And I was confronted with the gospel. I grew up in a Christian home with faithful parents, faithful grandparents. But, you know, I strayed and wandered through the college years in early law school. And I was confronted with the idea that you could know for certain. And, you know, I was caught up in the idea that that somehow uh you had to be
Starting point is 01:39:46 good enough uh for uh to be saved and and so the the fellow that talked to me asked me if i die tonight would i go to heaven and i said well i think so but i don't know and he said he cut cut through all that and and gave me first john 5 13 which says i write these things to you who believe in the name of the son of god so that you may know that you have eternal life. And so I really grabbed that and ran with it. I like the fact that you can know for sure that salvation is yours. And now how do we get on with the rest of our life? And so that's where I want to live.
Starting point is 01:40:18 And so at this point, having retired from the Secret Service, I'm pursuing a number of things. I've got the book. I'm serving on a number of boards and out teaching and training and leadership. And that's one of the things I want to do. One of the boards that I serve on is a technology firm called BMRT. And, you know, unfortunately, we were in Florida last week with them looking at technology that that would have alerted the Secret Service to the presence of a man with not only an explosive in the car, but to realize that this technology, which we're trying hard to get to the forefront, it would actually have prevented that by virtue of giving them an alert and actionable item of intel to pursue versus having to wait until he crawled up on a roof and gotten ready to squeeze off around. So it's been a pleasure to, you know, to be retired from the Secret Service, to have the freedom to get out, teach and train, and talk about these things that are important to me. And, of course, it always is, you know, a concern.
Starting point is 01:41:39 And while we look at ways whenever we have something that is a disruptive event like that, our first instinct is to clamp down harder and if we're not careful that moves us right into a totalitarian society you know when we we uh try to make everything completely safe it's a double-edged sword we have to be careful with technology but i want to talk to you a little bit about um the things that you again as you're there with a president and you're watching a lot of the most powerful and wealthiest people in the world come all the time, you have a chance to watch these people. And you talk a little bit about what makes life fulfilling, what makes people happy.
Starting point is 01:42:20 My question to you is, as you see all these rich and powerful, uh, elites, uh, coming into the presidency, uh, do they strike you as being a happy and content? Is it something that you envied, uh, to look at these people or is it, uh, I'm kind of guessing that it wasn't, but I don't know. What was your take on, on seeing these people? Cause I've had an opportunity to see a lot of well-known famous people. And, um, uh, I re I feel really sorry for a lot of well-known famous people and um i re i feel really sorry for a lot of them quite frankly i do too i you know it's amazing to me you
Starting point is 01:42:51 if you're around them long enough you can see uh then let their hair down a little bit and you know my my contention is my my belief is that we all have about the same number of problems and troubles in life and and they're just different you know the the rich the very rich have a different set of problems than the poor have but probably about the same number of problems and and it doesn't go away the acquisition of wealth and power and and all of this does not eliminate the problems it just changes them so you really have to have your North Star set on something besides things of the earth and things of this world. And that's why I, you know, in good
Starting point is 01:43:31 weather and in bad, for richer or poorer, my Savior is Jesus Christ, and it's not going to matter to me. It isn't going to affect my happy meter, my contentment, my joy, my peace, the outcome of an election, you know, because that's already set. That perspective is already rock solid, and it's built on a different kind of rock than, you know, the outcome of human elections. So that's my perspective on that.
Starting point is 01:43:59 And I see these people, but I don't envy any of them. Yeah, that's right. Nothing can come between you and God, right? Nothing of this. And that's the thing that really is the foundation of our life. And I know you've had this experience as well. You know, we see people who are rich. We see people who are famous.
Starting point is 01:44:17 And I've dealt with them. I've dealt with, see common people all the time as well. And there's not really any correlation to uh joy and contentment as a matter of fact it's just the opposite it's usually the people who are not rich and famous who are most content and who have the most joy even though what's happening to them and their happenstance and their circumstance is not necessarily something that any of us would want. They seem to often have greater peace and joy because of that Christian faith, I think. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:52 Yeah. I agree. Well, it is a very interesting book, and I think a great perspective for people from what I can tell. Again, I don't have an advanced copy of it because we wanted to get you on very quickly and talk about what happened over the weekend. But I think when we talk about cheating death, there's really only one way that we're going to cheat death, isn't it? And that is to have a relationship with the one who defeated death, isn't it? You have to lean into him if you want to cheat death in the end you know we we would take the president out we would bring him back hand him off to uh another team and you
Starting point is 01:45:30 cheated death for the day and your reward is that you get to come back tomorrow and do it all again and you know that's the that's the hamster wheel that the secret service lives on and so what i tried to do with the book is to say you know know, there is a much bigger picture out there, and that we pass from death to eternal life with Christ if we're hidden in him. So that's my goal. Well, I think it's a fascinating book. Cheating Death, Three-Time Presidential Secret Service Agent Lives to Tell You How. And I think there's so much in there for people.
Starting point is 01:46:06 People are always interested in what is going on at the center of power uh but the real center of power is not located in washington it's a lot of it is located in your family and you got some great advice i think in terms of how that operates thank you so much for joining us and and uh is there a website for people to get it or just amazon uh to get your book yes sir it's definitely available on amazon barnes and noble walmart all that but i put all the links to that on kennethvalentine.com and and you can you can order it either way okay kennethvalentine.com we'll put that in the notes uh thank you so much for coming on thank you for telling your story thank you for your encouragement to everybody. We're going to take a quick break, folks, and we'll be right back. Thank you. you're listening to the david knight show well welcome back. And let's finish talking a little bit about J.D. Vance because, again, it's kind of interesting to look at his life,
Starting point is 01:47:49 his policies, and things like that, but we never really know what somebody's going to do in advance. There hasn't been any contraindication in terms of his integrity except for the rapid change that is there, and that is concerning. But we can take a look at what he has done and pushed in the short period of time that he's been in the Senate, what was said in his election, and of course there was a great deal that was discussed about his life. And along with his priorities, he says, are to dismantle the big tech oligarchy.
Starting point is 01:48:28 Now this is a guy who basically became part of the big tech oligarchy and it is possible that now he wants to dismantle it i mean he's part of a you know uh one that the key people there peter teal uh the um the paypal mafia you know so many people who came together and created paypal and of course, Peter Thiel and Elon Musk merging their two companies together. And then so many people that were in the PayPal corporation went on to fund venture capital firms themselves and to fund other people's ideas. So he wants to dismantle what he says is the big tech oligarchy now maybe perhaps what he's talking about with that as a social media companies because that's what he has mentioned in the article facebook google he said they have an unfair advantage in the marketplace uh there's not a marketplace anymore uh the digital town square doesn't exist except in theory it should be there it should be supported uh at a y Combinator event earlier this year,
Starting point is 01:49:27 Vance said he's a fan of strong antitrust rules. He noted that blockchain technology, like that used by Bitcoin, will be necessary to challenge social media companies. Now, that's good. That's wise. You're not going to be able to break a monopoly ever by doing legislation. It'll always find a way to do it. Just take a look at what happened with Roccofone, the standard oil, the way that he just, you know, yeah, okay, we'll break it up and we'll have the, you know, the different companies just like AT&T and the Babybels and things like that,
Starting point is 01:50:01 but they still will be able to maintain that monopoly. The only thing that's going to change any of that is going to be changing the technology that is there. That's what changes monopolies. That and only that. Vance is also an advocate for domestic natural gas and oil production, opposes electric vehicles and solar power. Ohio is ranked sixth in the U.S. in gas production. It is the eighth largest consumer of coal.
Starting point is 01:50:27 Vance has denied climate change and called the whole EV thing, he said, a scam. All of that is very good. I mean, that I 100% agree with. But, of course, he's also been on the other side of the climate change thing. He supported it, climate alarmism he supported, before he was opposed to it. Now he is opposed to it. Now he is opposed to it. J.D. Vance, in terms of abortion, the Middle East, he's skeptical, he says, of American overseas intervention. He says raising tariffs will create new jobs.
Starting point is 01:51:00 And yet even as he says he's skeptical of American intervention, this was sent to me by Mary Ellen Moore, is independent, or if he's owned by the tech companies, if he's owned by Israel, what are the things that are out there? Again, he's capable of flip-flopping as all these politicians and reinventing himself evolving. If we will, uh, Vance says he opposes abortion rights. Even the case of incest or rape says there should be exceptions for cases in which the mother's life is in danger. I would agree with that. He ran for Senate in 2022,
Starting point is 01:51:35 a headline on the issues section of his campaign website, simply read ban abortion. Uh, that said says the New York Times, Vance, like Trump, opposes a national abortion ban, saying the issue should now be left to the states. But look, that is the constitutional legal position.
Starting point is 01:51:54 And it's not the constitutional legal position because the Supreme Court says so. It's the constitutional, it's the legal and constitutional position because the Bill of Rights says so, and the 10th Amendment. And they finally recognized so in the Tenth Amendment. And they finally recognized it in the Dobbs case, as I said, for the longest time. When are we going to have a governor who's going to stand up and say, as Andrew Jackson said to the Supreme Court, you've made your decision, let's see you enforce it.
Starting point is 01:52:16 If you call their bluff on these issues, like the drug war, like the redefinition of marriage, like the definition of when life begins and when we can supposedly take it. Innocent life. If you stand up to them, they don't have a basis. It's patently absurd to think that anybody in the federal government, whether it is the Supreme Court or whether it's the President or whether it is the Congress. None of the three branches has the authority. Nobody in Washington, no bureaucracy, no legislative executive or judicial branch has the authority to do the types of things that they've all done.
Starting point is 01:52:59 And so from a constitutional standpoint, they don't have any authority. Like I said before, if you don't like that, change the Constitution. But having a law passed by the legislature and signed by the president is not the way to go. That just nullifies the Constitution. That takes us down a very dangerous path. And then from a pragmatic perspective, we can see that nullification, as it has been practiced, will mean that if you take this legislative path and you define it in Washington legislatively instead of judiciously, judicially, I should say. If you're going to take that path, you're going to wind up having more babies killed.
Starting point is 01:53:39 It's just that simple. You're going to lose it all in pursuit of absolute control over this because you're going to have the blue states will nullify it the so-called red states will not uh on ukraine he has good positions and he has taken some good actions and i think that perhaps this is one area that i would expect that he's solid on because of his military experience. Vance has been one of the leading opponents of U.S. support for the Ukraine war with Russia. And he says, I think it's ridiculous that we're focused on this border in Ukraine. I've got to be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:54:19 I don't really care what happens to Ukraine one way or the other. That's refreshing to hear somebody say that. That is my core belief about all of these wars. Whether you're talking about Ukraine or Israel or what's going on with Taiwan, I don't care one way or the other. Our politicians should be focused on what is happening in America. We've got too many problems right now to be trying to be the global empire. That in and of itself will destroy this country alone.
Starting point is 01:54:55 He led the battle in the Senate unsuccessfully to block the $60 billion military aid and package for Ukraine. Again, he's got more integrity than Mike Johnson with this, far more. He said, I voted against this package in the Senate and remain opposed to virtually any proposal for the U.S. Senate to continue funding this war. He said, Biden has failed to articulate even basic facts about what Ukraine needs and how this aid will change the reality on the ground. In terms of the vaccine, I searched long and hard and I could not find any criticism of the vaccine. Like the rest of the GOP, J.D. Vance will take the position that the mandates were bad,
Starting point is 01:55:41 but I'm not going to say anything about the vaccine. As a matter of fact, he wrote an op-ed piece in 2021 opposing vaccine mandates at Ohio State University. He said, I'm an Ohio State alumni. And he said, I oppose this as an outrageous invasion of medical privacy. But again, they don't oppose the poison because it was produced by Trump. And you won't find anyone in the GOP, including J.D. Vance, that will oppose the vaccine. The safe thing is to oppose the mandate. The safe thing is to talk about the fiction of how this is created in a lab to produce the idea that it was a real pandemic when it was
Starting point is 01:56:26 not but he spoke out against the vaccine mandate and again he was running at the time for senate and his op-ed piece he says first let's start with a basic timeline a lot of people chose ohio state over other schools because it didn't mandate a vaccine but now having reached the point of no turn having in no return and having invested time and money and their ohio state university decision they learned that the universities now change this policy second the policy suffers from the confused messaging that is so common in today's fear heightened environment this is again jd vance writing this op-ed piece in 2021 there's no reason to effectively ignore the effects of natural immunity he said third these are new vaccines
Starting point is 01:57:21 and while they've been proven safe in the short term no no but he doesn't want to oppose trump the long-term risks he said are impossible to know at this point and i say this he said as someone who got the shot myself okay and he said i'm have encouraged at-risk family to do the same so he's publicly whether or not he believes this privately or not he is publicly uh buying into the alarmism of the pandemic uh buying into the shot he's only concerned about the mandates apparently. And that's if what he's saying here is true. The decision, if what he's saying here is true, he's not as wise and as smart as you might hope.
Starting point is 01:58:14 The decision to not get vaccinated, he said, is often rooted in caution about long-term risks, not a rejection of science or of the severity of COVID. Well, I rejected all of those. I mean, I looked at that. I said, long-term risk, you have no idea. But I do know that this isn't science. And I do know that COVID is not severe.
Starting point is 01:58:38 And I can see that from my own observation. Call it science or whatever you want. But real observation was what i was basing my stuff on and a knowledge of history how these people have operated what they've done over this amount of time he said that caution must be allowed in a free society not stamped out through mandates finally he said and perhaps most importantly wrote jd vance our society needs to respect bodily autonomy and family choice in the last year we've lost thousands of our fellow citizens to a new pandemic he said no we've lost them to trump's
Starting point is 01:59:11 ventilators to remdesivir to do not resuscitate orders to do not treat people that's what we're losing people to he came very close to taking on the planned parenthood people we said we need to respect bodily autonomy and family choice but i have yet to see a single republican say all you people out there who talking about being pro-choice uh you don't want me to have a choice about my body and there's no question that the vaccine is about your body. The open question, and I think it's not an open question for anybody who looks carefully at it, is whether or not the baby is your body.
Starting point is 01:59:53 The baby is not your body. Frequently, it has a different blood type. It has different DNA. Half the time, it's a different sex and gender uh so it is not your body he said had our leaders openly questioned um they came from a lab leak and upended our lives he said the world has moved so fast and our leaders should treat their fellow citizens as people trying to figure out how to do the right thing not as enemies of science who need to be ordered around well there's some good stuff in there but there's some troubling
Starting point is 02:00:31 stuff in there and i guess we could say the same thing about jd vance in general on rumble radice bro thank you for the tip says trump vance tv for tv that's. I like that a lot. It's the reality TV. Trump Vance. The initials, they say it all. That's good. On Rumble, don't frag me, bro. Writes, the vast majority of people today have zero understanding of what it means to be responsible for their own choices. That's right.
Starting point is 02:01:00 Yeah. The people who are pregnant did not have an immaculate conception let's just say it that way okay uh covet 19 rules he also came out talking about the lockdown rules where businesses are suffering called it fundamental unfairness um and he was talking about that in terms of ohio that in terms of Michigan, because one individual who was having their life's work destroyed by this superstition. It's not science. It's superstition. He said, first, just the fundamental unfairness of it, right?
Starting point is 02:01:39 You have politicians who are instituting lockdown orders where they're not following them themselves. One thing Americans are told is to follow the rules. And people who are creating the rules aren't following them themselves. Again, pointing at the time to Newsom, Cuomo, Pelosi. We could also point in other countries to Matt Hancock and Boris Johnson and so many others. Why do you think they don't follow the rules? Well, because they don't believe it's a pandemic either. If they believed that it was a pandemic,
Starting point is 02:02:09 they would follow those rules. But just arbitrary, capricious rules. It was the arbitrary and capricious exercise of power. And with something like that, we have a duty, an obligation to oppose those kind of arbitrary capricious unlawful unconstitutional orders from these people uh vance's fox news appearance came on the heels of his netflix movie hillbilly elegy which i have yet to see as i pointed out i don't know
Starting point is 02:02:41 if i'll watch it or not i just don't have time for movies. In terms of crypto, he reportedly has $100,000 in Bitcoin. And I don't know how old that report was, but they do have to file reports as to how they have their, how much money they've got, where it is invested in that type of thing. And so he is in favor of crypto. I think that's a good thing. I mean, as I've said many times, I don't personally, I'm not interested in investing in something that is as volatile as the crypto market. I'm not interested in something that is accessible to thieves all over the world and many other things like that. But, you know, I think it ought to be there.
Starting point is 02:03:32 I think it's a good check against the power of the federal reserve uh he drafted a bill to revamp how washington police's digital assets last year vance introduced a bill that would shield banks from regulatory pressure to cut off crypto customers and we know that's what was happening we know that was what drove the failure of those three banks as a matter of fact one of them did not fail it was simply closed under threats because it was completely solvent nobody lost any money they didn't have to dip into the fdic the the biden administration just wanted that bank closed because they dealt with crypto. One lobbyist said that Vance's draft bill is more industry friendly than the House passed legislation. Crypto firms argue that the SEC has claimed too much authority over the marketplace. And of course, that is one of the big issues as well. They still view crypto as
Starting point is 02:04:26 a security, which brings in a whole set of regulations and things like that. And that's one of the things that's been peeled back over a period of time for gold and so many different gold and silver in so many different states to get rid of the sales tax on it in so many states and to treat it as it is legitimate money and not the exchange of some kind of a security jd vance is an oil booster and a doubter of human caused climate change as i said he once said that society had a climate problem so again he's not firm on this he seems to be malleable on all these things. Right now, he's saying all the right things.
Starting point is 02:05:07 But again, in 2016, Trump pretty much said all the right things as well. As recently as 2020, Vance said in a speech at Ohio State University, we have a climate problem in our society. He praised solar energy. He called natural gas an improvement over dirtier forms of energy but not the sort of thing that's going to take us to a clean energy future now and then you fast forward to 2022 his positions on climate change took a sharp turn now he says i'm skeptical of the idea that climate change is caused purely by man as i pointed out yesterday by the way uh
Starting point is 02:05:47 you know look at the volcanic effects you know we have the big volcano that blew up near tonga the hunga volcano think about it as uh honga mus. It was really big. It was underwater though. And that works exactly the opposite of when you have a large volcano on land. And as I mentioned yesterday, Krakatoa east of Java, there was a movie about that when I was a kid. A major, major volcano that exploded in the middle of the 1800s and it threw up so much debris from the land volcano that it created very very cold temperatures for several years around the world but it works differently when you have an underwater volcano this was a huge underwater volcano that threw up so much water into the atmosphere vaporized it as you know uh water vapor that that goes up and stays it increased the amount of water vapor and if you want to talk about a greenhouse
Starting point is 02:06:53 gas the biggest greenhouse gas by far is water and it that one volcano increased that by 10 so if there is a warming of temperatures for the next few years, this year and for the next few years, it is attributable to that volcano, not to anything that's done by man. He says anything that's caused purely by man. It's not caused by man at all, except for the people that are doing geoengineering. Let's talk about that. But other than geoengineering um let's talk about that but other than geoengineering there is no man-made climate change so to kind of sum up some of the things that he's some interesting quotes that he's had um politico uh said well here's uh 55
Starting point is 02:07:39 things you need to know about uh jd vance um you don't need to know all 55 of them i've mentioned many of them already and i won't go through all these but there were a few of these that i thought were interesting he said i'll be the first to admit that i've accomplished nothing great in my life he said when he wrote the introduction to his book hillbilly elegy in 2016 uh and at that point in time, he was married. At that point in time, he'd been married two years, got married in 2014, a decade ago.
Starting point is 02:08:11 So he'd been married for two years. He and his wife were making a lot of money in a venture capital firm. But he says he had not accomplished anything great in his life. So what was it
Starting point is 02:08:22 that he thought would be great? And I think this is interesting. He says, I'm not a senator. I'm not a governor. I'm not a former cabinet secretary. I haven't started a billion-dollar company or a world-changing nonprofit. Those are the things that he thought were important.
Starting point is 02:08:42 Is that something that's on your list? None of those things are on my list list none of those things are on my list none of those things are on my bucket list to be a senator or governor or cabinet secretary to have a billion dollar company or a world-changing non-profit i think it's an interesting perspective on the guy that's how he defines himself you, as I said in the interview earlier with Ken Valentine, when you look at right in the middle of Jesus telling people about the effect of money, you know, you can't serve two masters. Don't lay up treasures on earth.
Starting point is 02:09:18 Lay up your treasures in heaven. And if you're worried about God providing for you don't worry about that he provides for the birds of the air and so forth and the flowers in the field he will provide for you you're more important to him than that in the midst of all that um the thing we were talking about before the light of the eye he's always looking at it's like what is that about you have to understand there's a context to that that's that's within all of these examples where he's talking about the effect of money on people what you value what is a priority in your life what is it that you want to achieve in life
Starting point is 02:10:00 where do you find your security where do you find contentment what do you serve what are you enslaved to and so when you look at that you know the light of the eye is that what you are desiring uh what you are focused on i think it is and uh you know right in the middle of this discussion about money jesus who said the love of money is the root of all evil you know as we talked about it before uh we have um uh the um the lust of the eye right lust of the eye i think that is greed i think the lust of the flesh, of course, that is sex. So you got money, you got sex. And you got the pride of life.
Starting point is 02:10:49 Power. Those are the three things that all of us struggle with. Trump struggles with it. J.D. Vance struggles with it. Everybody struggles with that. Those are the things that seek to dominate us. Those are the things that he's not come to terms with um that we should all think about like i said this is more important really our insights as we look into somebody's public
Starting point is 02:11:12 life in the same way that you know the bible gives us all these stories about individuals uh throughout the bible uh karen showed me a cartoon like a simpsons thing or something and homer said yeah i just read through the Bible. And he said, all these people except for one are really messed up. Well, that's the point, and that's the perspective really of God, is seeing how messed up we are. There's no hagiographies except for one in the Bible. We don't, you know, we don't worship man.
Starting point is 02:11:47 We see the flaws of men. Even people, even great people like King David had their big flaws. And so when we look at the lives of other people, I'm not looking at J.D. Vance's life as a holier-than-thou type of thing, but as the common struggles that we all face. In the same way that we look at the life of David and we see the common things that we all struggle with.
Starting point is 02:12:11 We don't hopefully look at the life of David and say, I'd never make that mistake. Watch out. That kind of attitude goes before a fall. But, you know, when we look at these uh public lives i think that's one of the key things is to uh to see that you know we we can see some things of course and other people that we don't see in ourselves and that's the difficult thing is to apply those lessons to ourselves reflecting on his first encounter with peter teal in 2011 he wrote teiel articulated a feeling that I was obsessed with achievement in itself, not as an end to something meaningful, but to win a social competition.
Starting point is 02:12:54 My worry that I had prioritized striving over character took on a heightened significance. Striving for what, he said. Well, again, that kind of introspection is good. Maybe it's a hopeful sign for him. Growing up, he said, I always distinguished my address from my home. My address was where I spent most of my time with my mother and sister, wherever that might be. But my home never changed. My great-grandmother's house in the hauler in Jackson, Kentucky.
Starting point is 02:13:37 So when we look at this and we look at the devastating effect of his broken home and the drug abuse and the alcoholism, and I would say also not just an alcoholism or drug abuse but what does that come from it comes from the fact that they don't have a connection to God and so this is he is unusual in the extent in the in the way that he was able to escape the gravitational pull of those types of addictions in his society. And maybe he has things that he can say to the public that would be helpful about that. Who knows? We'll have to wait and see.
Starting point is 02:14:16 But it ought to be a concern to all of us because the things that parents do in their in their homes have massive repercussions for their kids lives massive repercussions and just and don't just dismiss this because well jd vance was able to turn out okay you know the way that we value success in terms of what in terms of money in terms of. Yes, too soon to say about that. And it also depends on what your definition of success is. When he was in the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing, and again, I don't know, was he a photographer?
Starting point is 02:14:54 That's what somebody said here. He said, I served my country, and I saw when I went to Iraq that I had been lied to. But the promises of the foreign policy establishment were a complete joke. Who was it that lied to him? Oh, it was the person that Trump picked to run the CIA, Gina Haspel.
Starting point is 02:15:16 The person who lied to everybody. The person who tortured people illegally. And think about it. I may harp on this because to torture these people in order to get them to produce lies that you can lie us into a war, how unbelievably vile
Starting point is 02:15:32 that whole chain of sins are. She had absolutely no concern about the law. She had no concern about ethical or moral issues, no concern about her fellow man. She had no concern with the truth. As a matter of fact, she did all of these things in order to subvert the truth. And then she was rewarded by Trump for doing that. Trump said, we were lied into the war.
Starting point is 02:15:55 Did he not know who ran the lies? Did he just do what he was told? Yes, he did what he was told. And he will do what he is told in the second term as well. While at Yale, he attended a talk by Peter Thiel about technological stagnation and the decline of American elites. He saw these two trends as connected, he said. He later recalled in his first encounter with Peter Thiel, he said, if technological innovation were actually driving real prosperity, our elites wouldn't feel increasingly competitive with one another over a dwindling number of prestigious outcomes, he said. He called Thiel's talk the most significant moment of his time at Yale.
Starting point is 02:16:44 Do you believe that? He's absolutely wrong about that. He couldn't be more wrong about that. I don't know if that's his conclusion about what Peter Thiel was saying, or if that was Peter Thiel's thesis about, you know, I know that Peter Thiel has talked about technological stagnation. And that's a key theme of his. However, this, again, is this kind of technocratic lie.
Starting point is 02:17:17 It's kind of technocratic naivete, if you will, about how technology is going to solve everything. And listen to this again. If technological innovation were actually driving real prosperity, our elites wouldn't be increasingly competitive with each other. You think that's true? You think the people who have focused their life around the acquisition of money and power, you don't think they'd be fighting with each other? You don't think that they love money and power so much that they would not be fighting with each other if they're all making massive amounts of it? We have people who have more wealth. We have more concentration of wealth and more power and fewer hands than we have ever had in the history of the world.
Starting point is 02:17:56 And they're still not satisfied with it. They're still going to war with each other. He doesn't understand anything about human nature. And he rejects the fundamental insights that Christ gives us in his teaching. When he says things like, this is naive. The love of money is causing this competition, this rivalry that is increasing all of the time. The idea that the common man will own nothing, that the global elitist will own everything. We've never seen people with the kind of technology that they have,
Starting point is 02:18:29 we've seen human nature be this ruthless, but they've never had the tools to make it happen before. And it is not, more technology is not the cure. The technology just makes these people more dangerous, quite frankly. So, on Rumble, Froggy Trail says, Trump is 100% controlled opposition. Yeah, he's going to fill his administration with swamp creatures all over again, and MAGA will say he's exposing them, imbeciles.
Starting point is 02:19:00 That's my fundamental take on J.D. Vance. I think he is a shape-shifting chameleon who will do whatever he needs to do to advance his blind ambition as one, as Chris Zillow said. So we're going to take a quick break. And when we come back, I've got a little bit more to say about this before we move on to some other topics. And I do want to move on to some other topics. I want to talk about more questions about the assassination being put up all the time also we now see that uh the conservatives are now saying speech is violence be careful what you say you can't say anything like that you can't use these simple terms that we have always used in terms of talking about
Starting point is 02:19:46 competition or whatever no no no speech is violence i hate to see that happening and we have some updates on pandemic on cbdc and other issues so we're going to take a quick break and we will be right back. New World Order in music. One, two, three, four, five. All the unvaccinated are still alive. A little bit of Pfizer in my arm. A little bit of BioNTech does no harm. A little Johnson & Johnson does the trick. A little AstraZeneca so you don't get sick.
Starting point is 02:20:22 It's booster number five. They're doing what in the place they named after me? Good thing I have the David Knight Show to keep me informed on the plots of these traitors. Making sense common again. This is the David Knight Show. Welcome back. Let's take a, I mean, we're about halfway through this list. And again, as I said, a lot of these things I've already mentioned,
Starting point is 02:20:49 or you don't need to know of these 55 points, things that you need to know about J.D. Vance. His wife, he met, he said she would make an excellent heroine in an Ayn Rand novel, but she has a great sense of humor, he said. Ayn Rand didn't seem to have a very good sense of humor. Colleagues described her, though, as liberal or moderate. As I said before, she was somebody who clerked for John Roberts, then for Brett Kavanaugh. She met him in Yale Law School. Her parents were technical people who immigrated to California from India. Vance's memoir, Hillbilly Elegy, published in 2016, he said about the
Starting point is 02:21:37 industrial economy in the U.S., he said, there is a lack of agency here. I'm feeling that you have little control, a feeling that you have little control over your life and a willingness to blame everyone but yourself. Again, that's the key thing I was mentioning before. Key insight about what has happened to conservatives who put all their hope in getting the right person in Washington. It won't make any difference to your life and it's not going to change
Starting point is 02:22:04 anything. He credited his conversion uh to um i guess being a trumper uh via teal to the writings of a french philosopher renee gerard who he who teal studied under at stanford gerard is famous for his theory of memetic desire, that human beings imitate the desires of their peers, ultimately giving rise to rivalries and violent conflicts that are resolved by scapegoating a common enemy. Again, he's not based in Christianity. He's based in philosophies like this. One of his other influences, he's said a blogger curtis chauvin who i don't know
Starting point is 02:22:46 uh rod dreyer who i do know who is very big in terms of he's a christian he's conservative and he focuses on localism uh but um um when we look at um Trump's involvement with him in April 2022, when he wanted to win the Senate race and when he was moving. And you can use that to get to know their fathers who are going to put you in different places. And he kind of did that with a Trump family. In April 2022, Trump endorsed him and said this, J.D. is kissing my behind. He wants my support so bad uh and again big big support from don trump jr peter teal tucker carlson um mitt romney now this is kind of a an endorsement i don't know that i can disrespect someone more than i do jd vance so that's one of the best endorsements you can have
Starting point is 02:24:03 for jd vance i guess coming from it again that's what t. Vance. So that's one of the best endorsements you can have for J.D. Vance, I guess, coming from it. Again, that's what Tucker Carlson said. He's got all the right enemies out there, but that doesn't really get us there. What has he done in terms of bills? Not much, because he's only been there about a year and a half. His two biggest initiatives were done with progressive Democrats. Now, one of them was a railway safety reform bill because, and he did that with a Democrat, Sherrod Brown, who is also from Ohio. The two senators from Ohio got together to do something about a railroad safety reform bill because of that horrific situation in Palestine, Ohio.
Starting point is 02:24:44 I think they call it palestine frankenstein frankenstein um and uh it wasn't even really the derailment that was the big issue the big issue was the fact they set the thing on fire and blew it up uh but yeah uh so he did that with shard brown and then he put together something with Elizabeth Warren. An executive pay clawback provision with Elizabeth Warren. Now, that's kind of interesting, isn't it? A redistribution approach from Focahannes. I don't know that I could ever find any common ground
Starting point is 02:25:25 with Elizabeth Warren on a single thing, especially if something's economic. He suggested that the Biden administration is allowing fentanyl to cross over the southern border as part of a deliberate strategy to kill Republican voters. He said, if you wanted to kill a bunch of MAGA voters in the middle of the heartland, how better than to target them and their kids
Starting point is 02:25:42 with this deadly fentanyl? It does look intentional it's like joe biden wants to punish the people who didn't vote for him well again we look at the war on drugs and maybe he didn't get the full lesson in his family because they're all struggling with alcohol or drug addiction uh his mother um finally overdosed on drugs. She's supposedly been drug-free for a few years now. But you don't have to be at the mercy of drugs. It's there, but if you look to Christ, you have the power to say no. He gives us not only forgiveness of sin, but he gives us power over sin. And if you don't have that in your life, you need to do something about your relationship with one who can fix your
Starting point is 02:26:33 life. I don't look to Washington. I don't look to the border patrol to stop fentanyl. I stopped fentanyl by not taking it myself. I went through, I didn't have the same situation that he did, but I was in college. I was in bands and played parties, I played nightclubs, all the rest of this stuff. I didn't take any drugs. Why? Well, I had a foundation. It was Christian. I had other issues.
Starting point is 02:26:56 I saw addiction. That's why I don't understand. When you see that kind of addiction in other people, isn't that something that is a lesson? That you're not going to touch this stuff i imagine he's got a very strong aversion to ever trying any of these things but he doesn't think that other people are going to do it and so really you know he's not going to help people to get out of drug addiction as a president and he's not going to do it with some kind of world-changing NGO. He's going to do it
Starting point is 02:27:30 with a life-changing relationship with Christ. That's where your real hope is. It's not in Washington. In June 2022, he put a hold on all Biden administration appointees to the Justice Department to protest the indictments of Trump. Well, I'm glad that he stopped all the uh appointments of um biden to the justice department that's a good thing in and
Starting point is 02:27:52 of itself um and then one more thing i'll talk about he says quote the culture war is class war again this is focus on class no it's not the the the culture war is a spiritual war uh the culture war is above most is above politics i think that um i think it's breitbart that said that the politics is downstream from the culture war but the culture war is downstream from spiritual war it's not downstream from class war and. But the culture war is downstream from spiritual war. It's not downstream from class war. And one of the things that concerns me about it is not only the fact that he's clueless as to what is happening spiritually and with Christ, but he's also, I think, vulnerable to Marxist types of fixes. If he thinks that it is a class war, that leaves him open to Marxist types of approaches,
Starting point is 02:28:52 which takes us back to what I was just talking about. He puts something in with Elizabeth Warren to do income redistribution, a clawback provision for executive pay. That is a class war Marxist approach. Like I said, this guy is all over the place, and he's going to be a puppet of these people. He said that if he had been in Mike Pence's shoes in 2021, he would not have certified the results of the 2020 election.
Starting point is 02:29:21 Now, he got this right. This is exactly what I said. If I had been vice president i would have told states like pennsylvania georgia so many others that we needed to have multiple slates of electors and i think the u.s congress should have fought over it from there he said that's exactly right i said that thomas massey said that. Thomas Massey said that. Thomas Massey said, they gave us nothing to work with. And I said that on the Monday, December the 14th, that the electoral college votes were sent in.
Starting point is 02:29:54 I said, it's done. I said, there's no point in following any of this Stop the Steal stuff because it's simply a grift. I said that when I was at Infowars. I got fired two days later. So it was a grift because they could have opposed us. They were getting no traction at all in the courts. They could have and should have opposed it. There were four states that were very narrow.
Starting point is 02:30:19 He mentioned just two of them, four states that were very close. I'm not sure that Pennsylvania was one of the four. The four states that I was talking about, I know Georgia was one of them, had Republican majority legislatures, and two of them had Republican governors. And they could have looked at the evidence if they decided that there was, and they had razor thin margins of victory for Biden. So they could have sent a second slate of electors from the state legislature they did not instead you had some places where the legislators who had been put on a list said well we're we're you know to send our votes and they had no authority
Starting point is 02:30:58 at that point they have to be designated by the governor of the legislature uh so let's end this up here he's 40 years younger than trump trump is already older than reagan when reagan left office and so there's a pretty good chance that if trump wins this guy will become president one day and um like i said it is going to be interesting to see the debate of nothing else i've never seen such a mismatch in terms of wala harris and pretty much anybody else but certainly with this guy it'll be very interesting we're going to take a break and we will be right back © transcript Emily Beynon Thank you. Analyzing the globalist's next move. And now, The David Knight Show.
Starting point is 02:33:02 Well, let's talk real quickly about the Great Replacement. As we were going through that, one person who was talking about J.D. Vance said, well, he supports this white supremacist idea of the Great Replacement. Well, it's not just something that is affecting white people. It's affecting people urban, rural. It's affecting people in Democrat states, Republican states. It's affecting people of every ethnicity. Here's an example. Moped mounted crime is soaring as migrants are bringing this in from the third world. It's a tactic that they use. Latin Americans are quite familiar with these attacks. And some of them in New York are being
Starting point is 02:33:39 attacked by the new arrivers. U.S. followers of Phoenix, Arizona-based Active Self-Protection's YouTube channel are very familiar with attacks carried out by two criminals riding on a single moped or a dirt bike. The MO that facilitates both surprise and a quick getaway. Sometimes the criminals don't even dismount. Sometimes it just, you know, hits you and steal your purse or something like that on the run. In other instances, one or both may get off of the ride regardless they frequently wield deadly weapons to compel their victims to give up valuables a recent experience of two friends strolling in brooklyn's green point neighborhood after 11 p.m on thursday night they say a man in
Starting point is 02:34:22 a ski mask jumped off the back of a moped and pointed a gun at one of them, taking the 29-year-old man's watch and the 32-year-old woman's purse. The gunman then hopped back on the moped and the getaway driver sped the two criminals off into the night. It was very quick, but it was obviously super rattling.
Starting point is 02:34:39 I've lived in the area for over seven years now and I've never felt unsafe, said the woman. She asked that her name be kept out of print because she is worried about retaliation another tactic from these countries the female victim was certain that the criminals were venezuelan she said based on her familiarity with her accents thanks to having grown up in that country and then she said this it's pretty insane for this to be happening here my family left venezuela because crimes like that are very common there and they just didn't want to be growing up in that kind of lack of safety she said i've mentioned this example many times about a father who
Starting point is 02:35:26 left El Salvador where ms-13 is in control of course ms-13 was initially created by some gang members out of LA but then they really are based out of El Salvador and it was a father whose daughter had been killed and he was on long island and he said um you know there was they had a dispute or something at school and they just killed his daughter and so he had all these kids who'd come in deferred action for childhood arrivals obama's daca they had ms-13 tattoos all over their faces, literally written on their faces what they were. They were here illegally.
Starting point is 02:36:10 The federal government would not do anything about it. They were members of MS-13. Federal government would not do anything about it. And they killed his daughter, and he said, I came here. Same like this woman. This woman says, we left Venezuela because of things like that that were happening there. This guy said, I left El Salvador because of MS--13 and now they've killed my daughter in long island
Starting point is 02:36:29 awash in hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants new york city is the top hot spot for moto crime yeah this is not some kind of white supremacist paranoia. This is a deliberate takedown of our country. A lot of people have opened up the borders. They want to sow chaos, discord, civil war, violence, crime, and everything else. I mean, just look at what the Soros prosecutors are doing in terms of turning criminals loose. Or as I reported, I don't know if it's Friday or if it was yesterday, about what was going on in California where they came after Target.
Starting point is 02:37:11 Said, you're reporting, you're calling the police too often. We're going to start fining you for calling the police. Well, their shoplifting and other crimes like that had doubled every year for the past three years. And so the approach is we're going to leave the shoplifters and the thieves alone we're going to come after you with fines if you report their crimes some victims have been targeted because of their foolish choice to wear outrageously pricey watches on june 26 a man in greenwich village had a gun pointed at his head before surrendering his $40,000 Rolex.
Starting point is 02:37:45 $40,000 Rolex. On June 18th, armed robbers stole another man's $100,000 watch outside a Manhattan hotspot. I don't know. These watches must really tell time well, don't you think? That's my son's comment on these expensive watches boy that must be really good at telling time never had a watch that expensive uh don't think you're immune from a moto attack if you don't um uh flaunt your money an iphone a purse a wallet all these could be
Starting point is 02:38:19 enticements for these people to engage in this type of attack and again these types of mo's coming in here and then the Ohio town of 58,000 people flooded with 20,000 Haitian migrants The sound familiar talked many times about the Italian town that had six thousand000, it was an island, and it had 6,000 residents who were Italian. And they brought in triple the number of people from outside Italy. I mean, who isn't excited to import people from cannibal murder land? Well, and it's flooding these areas.
Starting point is 02:39:00 You can't, these people are coming, and they're not even, they're not even coming in as families or refugees. Coming in as young men because they want to get on mopeds and steal people's money, presumably. But anyway, they've increased the population of this. In Italy, they brought in, you know, it's now three times the number of the three times the population or whatever that's there. But here it's one third of the population. Still a big deal. They don't have any way to care for these people who have no means of support remember when if you want to immigrate into a country you had to show that you had means of support that's the way it's
Starting point is 02:39:35 always been in the past not anymore this self-imposed disaster uh says Jay and spoke out about this uh JD Vance said this is self-imposed disasters crushing the job prospects of our citizens, making it more difficult for Ohio families to find homes, and draining social service programs funded by American taxpayers. People who are here illegally should be sent back to their home countries as soon as possible. Individuals here on temporary status should not expect to stay indefinitely. And they said for a few years, it really wasn't a problem, even though they had this growing Haitian community.
Starting point is 02:40:13 But they said people started to become uneasy when the Haitian flag was raised at City Hall instead of the U.S. flag during the city's Flag Day celebrations. They're marking their territory it is their territory city manager said um you know we can't add 20 000 people to a city that has fewer than 60 000 and keep this going in germany for example half of the german welfare payments are now going to foreign migrants uh social services they're taking this up a british empire must be presented like nazi germany say new curriculum guidelines this is a daily skeptic out of the uk this is the same thing they did to post-war germany
Starting point is 02:41:00 they presented all germans as nazis and now in UK, they want to use the schools to get people to hate British, you know, to hate Britain. They have to portray them as Nazis. And of course, they're doing the same thing today in the USA as well. We're all Nazis. And anything that is done to us as Nazis is therefore justified and even demanded. Well, we're going to the David H. You're listening to The David Knight Show. I want to talk a little bit about the speech is violence approach. There's been rallying cry for a lot of left-wing censors oh i don't like what you had to say about sexual orientation or about your religious beliefs or
Starting point is 02:42:52 whatever your speech is violence and now we're seeing that in the wake of saturday's um whatever it was assassination attempt i guess we say uh We're now seeing that over and over again. And the right is playing that card. I see this over and over throughout conservative media, alternative media. Oh, look at what Biden said. He's threatening Trump. And, of course, this has also been played by the left against Trump and others. I think we have to draw the line at some somewhere at a reasonable focus.
Starting point is 02:43:29 We're always going to have people who use the metaphors of combat and war, especially when you're talking about these kinds of rivalries and you're talking about politics. And when you get a little bit of a thick skin about it, you can tell if somebody is actually threatening somebody. And the problem that I've had with this is that people like Steve Bannon and Jack Posobiec are actually threatening people. Threatening specific people. And that needs to be handled differently rather than having this mass censorship, which is now what the right is starting to push.
Starting point is 02:44:01 Both the right and the left are pointing fingers at other people and saying, at what you are calling for out here here's an example uh joe biden in an interview with nbc's lester holt well let's talk about the conversation this has started and it's really about language what we say out loud and the consequences of those you called your opponent an existential threat on a call a week ago. You said it's time to put Trump in the bullseye. There's some dispute about the context, but I think you appreciate that word. I didn't say crosshairs. I was talking about focus on.
Starting point is 02:44:34 Look, the truth of the matter was, what I guess I was talking about at the time was, there's very little focus on Trump's agenda. Yeah, the term is bullseye. Oh, you can't say bullseye now. I made a mistake to use the word. I didn't say cross Yeah, the term is bullseye. Oh, you can't say bullseye now. I didn't say crosshairs. I meant bullseye. I meant focus on him. Focus on what he's doing.
Starting point is 02:44:52 Focus on his policies. Focus on the number of lies he told in the debate. I mean, there's a whole range of things. Look, I'm not the guy that said, I want to be a dictator on day one. I'm not the guy that refused to accept the outcome of the election. I'm not the guy who said that. So you get the idea, right? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:45:13 I didn't mean it. Yeah. Come on. Come on. This is ridiculous. And this game is being played by both the left and the right. Speech is violent. You use bullseye.
Starting point is 02:45:23 And now somebody took a shot at Trump. Now it's your problem. And this is the narrative that's being pushed by the conservative media it's ludicrous as speech is violence biden said it was a mistake to use a word he said no it wasn't it was not a mistake to use a word it was perfectly legitimate to say that uh so uh again uh i'm not going to play this game with anybody um and i'll probably still say trump shot uh even though i'm talking about something else and they'll probably try to misconstrue that as well how do you talk about a threat to democracy which is really said and things like that well how do you talk about competition without that as well uh the front
Starting point is 02:46:05 page of the washington post and again this is another one this is bright part again but i see this all over conservative and alternative right-wing media the front page of the washington post read biden trains a fire on trump that was a headline biden trains his fire on trump and biden said put him in the bullseye and so forth on the day of the assassination attempt oh wow really really that's the best that bright part can do it is absolutely absurd uh well we don't have a lot of time so i'm going to go without a break here i want to talk a little bit about the assassination stuff because there's a lot of questions about that. And, um, the Bloomberg, so you've been talking about, well, disinformation swirling on social media after the Trump rally shooting earlier, when I talked to Ken Valentine and said, you
Starting point is 02:47:00 know, does this make any sense? Oh, that doesn't make any sense. So they, you know, why, why would you set up a perimeter and you're checking, you're not going to wand people with a magnetometer? How does this guy, and we now have got multiple reports of this guy walking around for 30 minutes. How does he walk in with a gun? How does he get onto a roof? How do they not have that secured? And so forth.
Starting point is 02:47:19 So, again, like I said yesterday, when something is so stunningly incompetent, and it goes on and on on and on and nobody ever does anything about it, you have to ask, is there malice there? And if you have something that is so amazingly, such an incredible failure that doesn't add up, you start to have to ask yourself, well, is there something else that is going on? And when we look at this, a lot of people said, well, I think that this is a setup from Biden against Trump. I haven't seen anybody else say this. Maybe hint at it a little bit. But, you know, Trump himself was at the center of the pandemic. The pandemic was, folks, the biggest conspiracy, not a theory. You know, there's a theory about the virus. There was a theory about a pandemic, but it was the biggest conspiracy.
Starting point is 02:48:12 All these people doing the same thing at exactly the same time, and they rolled it out step by step. They did it from the inside. They did it with disruption, and they rolled it out step by step, as I've said over and over again. Look, they'll announce they're going to do such and such a measure two months from now as they're implementing the one that they said they were going to do two months ago i said this is not a reaction to a pandemic this is a step-by-step takedown into martial law and so it was a global conspiracy he was at the center of that global conspiracy trump and then he handed it off to biden he'll be the one of them but trump was at the center of the biggest conspiracy and the biggest false flag understand that as well in history the other shoe to drop from 9-11 and of course his pal rudy giuliani
Starting point is 02:48:59 was right there at the center of 9-11 himself. So don't give any of these people a pass. But just because somebody is morally capable of doing something like this doesn't prove that they did it. We should be very skeptical. And as Ron Paul has said, we may never really know what happened on Saturday on this alleged Trump assassination attempt. We may never know. And I think that's likely the case.
Starting point is 02:49:31 I don't know that we'll ever know what happened on 9-11. I know what didn't happen. I know what didn't happen on 9-11 was the official story. I know that steel skyscrapers did not collapse in their footprint. Three of them. When two of them were hit by planes. And so I know what did not collapse in their footprint three of them when two of them were hit by planes and so i know what did not happen i don't know what did happen people argue about you know was it explosives was it uh some kind of directed energy weapon or this or that a lot of theories
Starting point is 02:49:57 about what happened with that but we know what didn't happen and that's the official story and so when we look at this, we know what didn't happen. What didn't happen was the normal things that would be happening typically. And so we can say, was it the obvious? I mean, the obvious would be the DEI stuff. There's a lot of obvious failures that are there right out in the open, and those should be addressed. But then there's other questions about that.
Starting point is 02:50:28 Did Trump do the weird move and did he smash something up to side of his head? You know, I've seen pictures of his ear. It doesn't look to me like it was shot. Uh, I don't know, but, um, you know, if it was more like, um, Stephen Colbert's here, I would believe it, but I didn't see anything unusual in his ear. So he's got a little bit of blood there. Earlier posts misidentified the shooter as a man called Mark Violets. They said he was a known Antifa extremist.
Starting point is 02:50:54 According to NBC News, a misidentified person circulated in posts included a photo that was someone named Marco Violi, an Italian YouTuber. See, we see this type of thing all the time. That's why I don't want to jump into this. And we also see the type of thing where, well, it was all completely false and nobody died and all the rest of this stuff. And folks, that's not just a Sandy Hook thing. That became a standard MO being pushed by people like Steve Pachinik, CIA operatives pushing everybody to think that no event was ever real. So that's why I'm saying I'm going to jump into this thing one side or the other. And we've also seen in terms of these fake identities, Sam Hyde is always doing jokes about it.
Starting point is 02:51:35 He always puts himself or some variant of himself in these things. I think he gave himself some kind of a name that was kind of quasi-Ukrainian, but it was a picture of him and a version of his name sam hyde and he he got adam kinsinger uh to to bite on it he put himself out there so well we finally have uh the ghost of kiev revealed you know and he got adam kinsinger to bite on it we had a democrat congressman and one of these senate on one of these shootings bought into the idea that it was sam hyde and put that out there and then jake tapper reported that and i said come on i i trolled him personally on it and
Starting point is 02:52:15 and he replied and he said well we were told that by u.s congressman and i said oh so that's your standard of truth a u.s congressman that's really what you got so at that point he blocked me i that's all i had to say but i wasn't going to say anything more about it but you know that this goes in a lot of different ways but it is important for us to look at this and to say you know what is really going on this stuff really really doesn't make any sense uh this report the secret service is moving people around behind trump just before the shooting another person who um has a background law enforcement says the dei secret service looks like keystone cops in action in terms of the things that they
Starting point is 02:53:02 did he said think about the fact that you had the president reacted before the agents did once they decided to take trump to the beast uh they um it became really apparent uh trump says i don't have my shoes so they let him do the shoes uh the diversion they said is not this kind of diversion is not in the secret service playbook they then more or less manhandled the president toward the beast two of the agents were women who seem to be about five foot six trump whom they have sworn to protect stands about six foot three this would be funny if it wasn't so potentially dangerous again part of what we're talking about with the dei obvious uh failures that need to be addressed first. When they got the president safely into the beast, one of the female agents had trouble holstering her firearm,
Starting point is 02:53:55 a move that should be instinctive if she was trained. While the president has executive oversight over the agency, it is up to the Secret Service agents to protect him as their only priority. So why is this important? Well, first of all, it's understandable why Trump would want to reassure his followers that he was fine and still in the fight if there had been more than one shooter. He might have been dead by now. And the Secret Service agents did this. They didn't forcibly move him away. When he said he wanted his shoes, they stopped so they could get his shoes after a
Starting point is 02:54:25 shooting had happened all of this very very very strange then when he lost his maga hat one of his female agents bent over leaving the president vulnerable to another shot from a sniper if it had been a second one and then when they got to the stairs leading down from the platform there was a scrum amongst the agents because the stairs are not wide enough to hold the president and all the agents if there had been other shooters enough to hold the president and all the agents. If there had been other shooters, this inept decision could have proved fatal. Finally, when they got to the beast, there was another scrum as they decided who would push President Trump into the safety of the protective vehicle. It truly is strange.
Starting point is 02:55:01 And then this is the way bill maher put it i mean 2016 I'm being f***ed up always. Lucky, lucky, lucky. I mean, I saw that photo today of him with the blood streaming down his face. I don't want to say the election is over, but... I don't know, because anything can happen in an election. F***, f***, f***. I mean... Yes, imagination finally has its full marker. The lucky one runs to jail. The well shot, I gotta say, he's insane and he is a criminal, but that well shot, f***ing hell. And this, he played this scene.
Starting point is 02:56:01 What? We rehearsed it! We rehearsed it! I can't rehearse this. I can't rehearse. I mean, take one, take one with a moment. And there will be Indians, there is Indians who will say, oh yeah, they play this, right? Right, he's had it all, the guy that we met with. But he gets raised and another guy gets shot. It's so cruel. But you know, this is gonna work for him. I can see the memes now. The man a little turns to kill.
Starting point is 02:56:42 A biker can't go through with a man. A bull can't stop a truck. yeah yeah there's some of these crazy conspiracy theorists look this guy and uh whether or not it was planned oh he planned what he was doing when he did the fist fist shaking and he was no no wait a minute wait a minute we're gonna do this and again uh no protocols were followed with that uh but uh yeah um i think at this point we don't really believe anything that we are told directly american thinker uh there was a first-person account of security issues on the ground in Butler, Pennsylvania. This is what I mentioned earlier. He says, my wife and I have attended five Trump rallies, three of which were held outdoors. Once you get to the gate, security requires you to put everything you're carrying on a table for inspection.
Starting point is 02:57:40 Then you go through a metal detector, after which an agent with a wand gives you the once-over. At least that's what happened in four of the five rallies, but not in the one on Saturday. He said, yesterday, I didn't get wanded. Instead, when I went through the metal detector, which didn't go off, and then presented myself in the usual T-stance with arms out, the uniformed security simply said, you're good, you can go through. So, you know, how do you get an AR-15 into a venue like this? He said the venue itself is also a problem.
Starting point is 02:58:10 You had dense trees are somewhat close in. There were open umbrellas. It was a water tower only about a quarter mile away. It had an excellent line of sight. He says, I'm talking about Texas towerory-grade line of sight. He set a utility pole almost right next to me with foot pegs, in which a couple of people actually partially climbed, and there were no protests from security in order to get a better camera shot of Trump as his motorcade arrived.
Starting point is 02:58:38 Elevated terrain that sloped downward from spectator to podium, and on and on. You see, they are really begging for a security state aren't they as a matter of fact you know when i talked to ken valentine earlier and he says he's working for a company now to be able to detect all this stuff somehow remotely detecting the gunpowder i guess or something like that at a distance and i keep thinking about how much further are we going to go down the police state surveillance state path? That's why Drago Drazerian, who I've interviewed here a couple of times,
Starting point is 02:59:12 one of the first things he put out, as he said, he said they always want to have, in Marxist countries, they always want to have these types of issues, these attacks, assassinations, or planned assassinations, in order to move this towards that kind of police state, to get people begging to have more of a police state. We see it here. We see it in terms of equipment that people are putting together.
Starting point is 02:59:39 I want to just take you back and think for a moment about Thomas Jefferson and John Adams. I mean, these two guys, they were from different parties. That's the way they chose the vice president and the president at the time. They had a true multi-party election. And whoever was the top vote-getter would be president. And the number two guy would be the vice president. And they could be adamantly opposed to each other and be president vice president as adams and jefferson were but if you ever saw the
Starting point is 03:00:12 uh excellent hbo production of john adams really good i loved that um and uh there was a scene in it that really struck me as odd. Because in that scene, Jefferson and Adams are walking down a very busy Washington, D.C. As busy and as big of a city as you would have anywhere in the United States at that point in time. And there's people going about their business all over the place. And here's Thomas Jefferson and John Adams walking down the sidewalk, chatting as they would in ordinary times. And as you would encounter them, for example, in Colonial Williamsburg, where they have, you know, some of these reenactors would be there, and you just engage them.
Starting point is 03:00:59 That was a very common thing. As a matter of fact, during the Civil War, as I reported in the past, you had Colonel Arthur Fremantle of the Cold Stream Guards in Britain came to America because he wanted to observe firsthand what was happening from a military perspective. And he entered in through Texas, I think it was Galveston or something, and went up through Texasxas in the middle of the civil war and he was able he was wearing a uniform british soldier uniform so maybe that helped him but he's able to go into all these different camps he was able to meet sam houston
Starting point is 03:01:36 he was able to meet the generals on both sides and he was able to you know just walk into their camp and sit there and talk to them this kind of blows me away how open everything was and um and you know when you look at jefferson and adams walking down the street why was it that they could do that well i think it gets back to the very thing that i was talking about before the thing that is these politicians are getting hoisted by their own petard because they want to create a situation where they run the country where they run the world and this american empire they've created is such an abomination to everybody globally as well as domestically that they put their lives in danger if they didn't take all of that power upon themselves they'd be able to walk down the street like a normal person. But instead, they decide that they're going to run everybody's lives.
Starting point is 03:02:27 You know, in the 1990s in Switzerland, it was reported that the vast majority of people in Switzerland didn't know who the president of Switzerland was. It wasn't because they're stupid. It wasn't because they're uninformed. It was because the president of Switzerland didn't have a lot of impact on their life. There wasn't a lot that the Swiss president could do at that time to them. Oh, but now we watch every little move that the president or the vice president or anybody else. I spent a lot of time talking about J.D. Vance. And again, it wasn't simply because we need to know about this man,
Starting point is 03:03:07 because there are people behind the scenes that are just using them as puppets, as placeholders, to keep you entranced and focused on them while they do something else. But the reality is that so much has been taken over by Washington that people increasingly just pay no attention to their own lives, as J.D. Vance was appropriately saying. It becomes a drug addiction to focus on what these people in Washington are going to do. You create this kind of dependency on, well, they're going to fix my life, or they're going to destroy my life. And when you create that kind of an issue, now you've got a lot of people who want to kill them on either side.
Starting point is 03:03:52 They have created this whole thing by their desire to have an empire, by their desire to dictate to you everything. It is the price of totalitarianism the price that we all pay because they will be adding additional uh restrictions on us and everything that we do and so i didn't have time to talk about it today but brian shulhavi said things just don't add up there's a lot of unanswered questions in the trump shooting uh you've got um john rapaport saying the same thing you got paul craig roberts saying the same thing now i'm not jumping the same conclusions that they are and i'm not saying it was done by the cia or the fbi i'm saying any of them could and i'm saying that just like fbi or the cia
Starting point is 03:04:40 capable of doing this morally capable technologically capable so are trump and biden and whoever it is that's running their organizations they are morally ethically technologically capable pulling off all this stuff anyway here's the key thing don't make that your life thanks for listening have a good day The David Knight Show is a critical thinking super spreader. If you've been exposed to logic by listening to The David Knight Show, please do your part and try not to spread it. Financial support or simply telling others about the show causes this dangerous information to spread farther.
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