The David Knight Show - Tue 6Aug24 David Knight Show UNABRIDGED Judge Says Google is Evil; New AI Surveillance

Episode Date: August 6, 2024

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Well, today we're going to take a look at the day after the financial panic. And the real issue is, as some of the exchanges are recovering, Japan has recovered a great deal. Bitcoin has recovered half of what fell down yesterday. But the question is, is the Fed going to cut rates because of this? We'll take a look at that. We'll also take a look at the monopoly trial and the verdict against Giggle. You know, the search engine that is designed to hide things, the search engine that is a joke, Giggle.

Must have been a tough day yesterday at their headquarters. Had to stock drop as well as a court ruling that dropped on them. I guess I had to keep Sundar Pikachu away from the windows. But we're also going to take a look at Trump and the raging on Saturday, still angry about the election. We're going to have in the third hour someone who wrote a book on the 2020 election because he was involved in the recount auditing. We'll be right back. Well, we had the Federal Reserve leaving the interest rates unchanged. We also had the Bank of Japan raising interest rates as they were going into a recession. And so when we look at the net result of all of that, we had as well as algorithmic training or trading once everything got kicked off into the AI bubble and other things like that.

People have been signaling for quite some time they're ready to hop off of the AI bubble train. You had Warren Buffett get out of a lot of tech stocks, and so the big ones that they call the Magnificent Seven crashed significantly. So yesterday it was a slaughter in the markets, but by the end of the day, things started to go up. Japan's stock exchange saw the biggest route since 1987 and a black Monday then.

But so far today, it had gone up by 10%. It's not enough to recover what they had lost, I don't believe, since they had wiped out. They'd hit all-time record highs, but they had wiped out all the gains for the year. So I think a 10% increase still does not get them back to where they were. And it was spread around the world and in a lot of different things. We had gold go down 1.5%.

Apple went down 3%. NVIDIA went down 5%. Bitcoin crashed nearly 20%. 19.5%. It has now recovered half of that. By the end of the day, it recovered half of that drop, but it was still down 10% at the end of the day. And so people are asking, what is going to happen with interest rates? Because that's the key thing. You know, stocks are, all these different things are always going up and down uh and some of them are more of a roller coaster ride than others that's one of the reasons why i said i'm i don't have the stomach anymore for riding

roller coasters and i i learned my lesson in the dot-com crash so i was not uh buying into any of the AI stuff at all, that AI bubble. But yeah, it is a bit of a roller coaster. But you've got people now pushing very hard for the Federal Reserve to do a rate cut and not even to wait until September, but to do an emergency rate cut. And it was reported to be considering that uh on cnbc jeremy siegel who is a professor at the wharton school of business at the university of pennsylvania said i'm calling for a 75 basis point emergency cut in the fed funds rate with another 75 basis point cut indicated for next month at the september meeting and he said that's a minimum well that's what he would like to see thinks that we're headed into recession thinks we are in recession but who knows what the federal

reserve is going to do they're not accountable to anybody you can't even audit them people who were buying treasuries you know federal reserve, started betting that there would be an emergency rate cut. So bond traders were piling in, says Bloomberg, on bets that the U.S. economy is on the verge of deteriorating so quickly that the Federal Reserve will need to start easing monetary policy aggressively, potentially before their next scheduled meeting in order to head off a recession uh just the opposite of what the bank of japan did and it's considering the fact that this all all this stuff kicked off when the bank of japan ignored the economic conditions goldman sachs says they see not a 75 point basis basis cut, but a 50-point basis cut.

They've raised the risk of U.S. recession to 25%. Many people would say that we're already in that, quite frankly. And, of course, the real issue is the hidden aspects of where this economy really is. They misreport the jobs numbers. They misreport the inflation numbers. Everything is rigged. They're constantly rigging the metrics. And they have for the longest time,

especially in the labor market. When you look at the labor market, they always release figures and then uh revise the previous quarters figures to make this one the current moment look better they're always doing that always uh you know they'll put out uh what what it is right now and then three months from now they'll go back and say no it was worse three months from now, they'll go back and say, no, it was worse three months ago. You know, they'll they'll worsen the numbers for today. Three months from now, they always do that. And one of the things that they do with these numbers is they have a new accounting rules for how you report property loans that are underwater, especially commercial real estate. You know, when inflation starts really taking off, they change the way they calculate inflation, of course.

And you can go to shadow stats and you can see what the inflation would be under the original calculations. And so they play a lot of games with what they count and what they don't count. Well, because the commercial real estate is such a big issue. And Gerald Slenty has been talking about this since the lockdown. You know, this is going to be the consequence of the lockdown that Trump did. No doubt about it. And then it's going to have consequences for the banks as well. And so the banks are trying to protect their, uh, their parents and how they

look on the balance sheets by sweeping these bad property loans under the rug. Uh, this is from Bloomberg. They say, um, new accounting rules should give investors an early warning, but surprises are cropping up and there could be more to come. The old system was called the incurred loss model. To book a loss, a lender had to conclude that it was probable that one had already happened. The term probable was not defined numerically, but the bar was widely interpreted to be very high perhaps a 70 or greater likelihood yeah that's all probable uh bankers used to explain uh conveniently that they would have booked more loan losses if only the rules would have let them under the new system in place at

most large companies since 2020 the lenders from day one are supposed to continually estimate their credit losses over the life of a given instrument, whether it is a loan or a bond. The threshold for recording losses is supposed to be much lower when they are expected, rather than waiting until losses probably happen happened this was supposed to lead to more aggressive and more timely loss recognition but the loan the office loan market that's a commercial real estate market is testing investors faith in the new expected loss model as with other commercial properties loan payments on office buildings often are interest only until maturity and this is exactly what you know this is this is compounding all of the low occupancy rates there the fact that these

are interest only and they just keep rolling this thing over well now they're going to have to roll it over into a very high interest rate maybe they just walk away from the thing and then they leave the bank holding the bad note. And as Gerald Slinty has said, it's going to cause a lot of banks to go under. When rates were ultra low, many lenders and borrowers went into these loans, assuming they would be refinanced rather than paid off. That would mean no defaults as long as they could keep rolling over the loans. But the pandemic sent office values in many big cities tumbling

as more people worked from home. Now, for many borrowers, refinancing isn't an option. That makes defaults inevitable. Until then, though, the owners still may be current on their payments, and hope springs eternal until it doesn't. So, again, Gerald Slinty has been talking about this for four years it's amazing really that it's gone on this long as he talks about he said look you can easily project trends and he does that in trends journal by the way you can save 10 off if you use

the code night uh gerald slinty a long time um friend of this broadcast and uh really nails it on the trends like he said i'm i don't predict anything because you can't predict the timing when this is going to happen this has been baked in for four years and if you go back and you um margin call um was that a big short big short yeah big short if you look at the big short i mean everybody's saying you know looking at the finance the financials and nothing makes sense it's like how can they keep this thing going on and on and on and they did kept it going for a very long time and got a lot bigger but uh so you can never predict the exact timing but you can see where the trends are going to be and um you know it's um it's important to see that again uh trendsjournal.com and you can get 10 off of that

with the code night and uh so we're going to leave it at that point with the economic news you know we'll see what happens with the interest rates uh the interest rates the high interest rates have locked up the housing market for a lot of people as well uh and there'd be a big political advantage for the biden administration which includes la la if they were to do that so there's a political pressure but again as we've seen over and over again these central banks don't really care about the economy they don't care about the politics they you know the economy is down here number two maybe is political nest feathering but the number one issue is to maintain their power to maintain their currency and that's what they're going to really focus on.

We're going to take a quick break. And when we come back, we're going to take a look at Google and what is happening at Google in terms of this monopoly decision. I'm sorry. I called him Google. It's giggle. We'll be right back. Thank you. Sous-titres par LaVacheSquid Thank you. Making sense common again. You're listening to The David Knight Show. is a joke it is a sick joke uh giggle uh giggle under sundar pikachu uh they offer fake news they offer fake searches it's a manipulation of people and it is political and i find it interesting

that it is uh garland and his department of justice and the biden administration really pushing hard on this and um you know a lot of people in the republican party of course believe that no business can ever do wrong and so they side with a giggle but i i think that all the issues aside from the monopoly and antitrust stuff uh when you are um acting uh when you're lying to people as a search engine when you are manipulating politics and all the rest of this stuff i mean whatever they can get with these people i'm for i don't think that anything is really going to happen to them though again as i said before it's kind of like locking up Dennis Hastert for taking money out of his account and trying to avoid the reporting limits when he takes the money out. Not when he puts it in, but when he takes it out.

It's like, that shouldn't even be a crime. reference the fact that he was a pedophile that he was taking the money out because he's paying off a student former student uh that he had molested and he didn't want to have that detected so they don't send him to jail for being a pedophile they send him to jail for something that's not a crime and i've said that about trump as well all all this political persecution by the biden administration when the reality is is that he poisoned and smothered people, smothered them with his ventilators, poisoned them with his jabs, bragged about it all, and shut down the Constitution, shut down our liberties, shut down Main Street businesses and all the rest of this stuff, and put us into debt. No, that's not a crime, and it's not a crime. Why? Because the Democrats did it as well,

and because other Republicans were in on it as well. It was a bipartisan crime, and so he doesn't pay any penalties for that. But again, when you look at Google, the monopoly of the antitrust issues, they have a de facto monopoly, that's for sure. They're saying it's because they're so good. Really? Are you kidding me? That's worth a giggle, isn't it? monopoly that's for sure they're saying it's because they're so good really are you are you

kidding me that's worth a giggle isn't it after having carefully considered and weighed the witness testimony and the evidence the court reaches the following conclusion giggle is a monopolist and it has acted to as one in order to maintain its monopoly uh we all know you know that it is predatory dishonest that it controls the internet uh it's a propaganda machine uh those should be crimes but they're not and and here's how you know that nothing is going to happen okay giggle is still shifting the information away from Trump and over to Lala. You can't even find the Trump website when you search for it. So, you know, they're not concerned about this.

They're going to appeal it and, you know, they'll probably be able to avoid this or they'll get a slap on the wrist as we've seen over and over again with the banks that are too big to fail you know we've had multiple criminal convictions against um jp morgan and against uh hs um hsbc um and and others and whatever happens nothing and you know obama's department of justice Attorney General said, well, they're too big to jail. Can't do that. We'll give them a couple billion dollar fine.

Who cares? Everybody will look at that. Wow, billions. They made $280 billion in revenue last year. What are you going to do to fine them and make them really hurt? You could make them pay off the debt. They could pay it off in a few years. They're about the only entity that could.

They and a few other of the magnificent seven could pay off the debt in a couple of years. But they would just move somewhere else. They're going to find a way to get around this. They're going to find some politicians or judges that they can work with. They'll get a slap on the wrist, just like jeffrey epstein was convicted of being pedophile they gave him a jail term that was kind of like otis from uh the andy griffith show you know he gets to he's out all day and then he lets himself in at night and sleeps it off in the um in the jail cell uh so nothing is really going to change with this folks and we look at the whole history

of antitrust stuff does it ever work never worked with standard oil that was when they first went after this stuff trying to do it with the rockefellers all they did was they just they split it up but they still had interlocking directories and all the rest of the stuff they found ways to get around it interesting the judge's name is meta now not like the company that owns facebook and all this spelled with an h in the middle of it the department of justice accused giggle of illegally monopolizing the online search market not about um being a predatory dishonest and controlling the Internet with propaganda. That wasn't an issue.

Giggle's fate will be determined in the next phase of the proceedings, which could result in anything from a mandate to stop certain business practices to a breakup of Giggle's search business. Giggle plans to appeal the ruling. The decision recognizes that Giggle offers the best search engine, said their lawyer, but it concludes that we shouldn't be allowed to make it easily available. Do you think that's the best search engine, if it lies to you? There are certain topics, of course, that are off limits.

And the people who talk about those certain topics that are off limits, they themselves get banned. Yeah, the best search engine. Give me a break. DuckDuckGo, whose CEO testified against Giggle in the trial, applauded the decision because they're competitors. They said the prospect of losing tens of billions of dollars in the case of Apple, for example, guaranteed revenue from Giggle, which presently comes at little to no cost to Apple. It disincentivizes Apple from launching its own search engine when otherwise it has built the capacity to do so, they said. You see, when you look at their penetration in the marketplace, Giggle's monopoly in general search increased from about 80% in 2009 to 90% by 2020. If you look at what it is on smartphones, it is 95% of the market. And part of that is because Apple gets a big fat check of like $20 billion a year just

for making Google the default browser on their phones. Bing, by comparison, has less than 6% of the market share. Uh, there is no price that Microsoft could ever offer Apple to preload Bing, said the judge. So, yeah, that's the way this thing is working. There are Fortune 500 companies, he said, and they have nowhere else to turn other than Giggle. And most people don't believe that its's searches are a joke one of the most significant revelations from the case is the size of giggles payments to apple to secure the default search engine spot on iphones again uh 20 billion dollars for that default position uh and also um the uh well, the $20 billion that they just got,

is because they share 36% of search engine ad revenue from Safari with Apple. So they made them an offer they couldn't refuse. And the $20 billion that Apple gets is a small amount of their $280 billion in revenue. But it helps them to get 95% of the market in the smartphones. But again, when I say that it's a search engine designed to hide things,

it's a search engine that lies to you. Just one example of many, many, many that I've seen in my personal life. I mean, this is a personal thing between me and Giggle, because they personally looked to ban me on everything that they own which is a lot of stuff just like i've been banned on paypal on venmo this is a future for all of us all of us

you toe the line or they ban you right now you know it's just a few people that they're doing this stuff too quietly uh but if you again if you look for David Knight journalist on giggle you will find that the first pick is some guy first thing that comes up is a social media account that has 900 followers on Twitter give me a break the journalism professor and it gets worse and it gets to the point where a giggles YouTube purges me when I have a Christmas music, uh, channel even, so it's not just about money. It's about hiding information. And then it's about banning the people that give you that information

that they're trying to hide. And, uh, so, um, this still will be overturned it'll there'll be a workaround there'll be a slap on the wrist it's not going to be any big deal and this is why you know this you know this because giggle is still working with and for the democrats who are supposedly um coming after them it's just all for show. This whole trial is just another one of these examples like a Jim Jordan show trial. It's like, oh, look at this kind of stuff.

And every time I see Jim Jordan, oh, we're going to have an inquiry into this. My mind automatically goes back to those old movies with Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland. Let's put on a show. And all the kids get together and they put on a show and all the kids get together they put on the show and the movie is about them putting on a show uh and that's what congress is about because let's put on a show they just don't have any they don't sing and dance

but it's the same kind of song and dance with every one of these things 4.3 million Americans' personal information was exposed in a hack linked to Microsoft. Giant hacks coming up every week that you hear about. There's a lot that you don't hear about. Hackers access the information through an unnamed third-party vendor that had access to HealthEquity's Microsoft SharePoint data data which allows companies to create and store important files and customers full profile information somebody needs to tell lala that their cloud was stolen they just lassoed it and took it away the cloud was stolen uh and uh but we don't know where it is it's it's gone somewhere else and so when you look at the purpose of google uh to cover up things they're going to get much much more sophisticated

about all this stuff of course that is the uh the primary purpose of artificial intelligence propaganda surveillance and tracking uh all of this stuff uh and so um a good example this is what is happening with the paris olympics and this is an article uh by the bbc bragging about the fact that they have um that they're using artificial intelligence to surveil people who say mean things about Olympic athletes. And of course, we all know what happens in sporting contests. People are constantly saying, they get so involved in it, sports fans, because that's short for sports fanatic and they get so involved in we know somebody like that in our family don't we not our immediate family but our extended family

you know a family member that basically uh female even that basically disowned my sons because they didn't know who the new york yankees were or care no i made a joke about the new york yankees and she didn't send me a christmas present after that ever ever she was so angry about that uh and you know i i just we just never were into sports we went to orlando and there used to be a restaurant there that was really neat I liked it because it had all these NASCAR actual cars that were up in the ceiling and everything's you know kind of tilted so you could see them but they had a great gift shop there at the beginning and they had all kinds of NASCAR things that you get and then when you go into the

restaurant they had loops that were playing all the time of car races and car crashes and they had again all of the original cars all over the place you could see them really well but you couldn't get to them because they're elevated and so we decided to take the kids to it as they're on international drive uh in orlando where they had a lot of interesting places and stuff. And we walk in and we didn't know it, but what was the guy's name? I don't follow anything. Thank you. Thank you. He had just died in a crash and we walk in as a family and they thought we were coming in to get some memorabilia for him. And it was a live TV broadcast,

and the guy comes over with a microphone to the kids, and he says, so are you here because of Dale Earnhardt? And they said, who's he? I was briefly the most hated child in the South. Yeah, that was so funny. And I knew the name. I didn't know what had happened and um but they didn't know the name at all so yeah but you know you better not say anything about the

new york yankees around this particular relative you're on our blacklist forever so when we look at this we know that people get really involved in sports obviously they say uh very passionate uh hateful things sometimes and so this has to be policed now can't have this kind of cyber bullying it's just another excuse for censorship and they're bragging about it they're going to protect these poor tender athletes who have never had a situation where uh people are cheering for the other side and saying you know horrible stuff about them an ai algorithm is wading through the oceans of content social media users are posting about the olympics with a singular mission neutralizing online abuse and this is especially going to be about the troll tranny issue you can bet it will be

whether it's trannies or whether it is an intersex thing, the bottom line is these guys are genetically men. And that means they have a competitive advantage in terms of hormones. Think of it as a doping scandal, right? Think of it as taking testosterone injections or whatever. But the 2024 Summer Olympics will generate more than half a billion social media posts. That doesn't even include the comments. Assuming that an average post is 10 words, to be conservative, that's a body of text

around 638 times longer than the King James Bible. And it would take close to 16 years for somebody to read through this if you gave each post just one second of your time. You're just flipping through these things. You could do that for 16 years. You know, we can really waste our life on social media, can't we? Usually you look at this and you'd say, how many hours are people sitting there watching TV? And of course, that still happens. But now we've also added the time waster of social media.

And, you know, we can flip our life away with this stuff. But, again, it would take 16 years for them to go through this. So enter artificial intelligence because that's its superpower. The International Olympics Committee is exploring a new solution for a problem that is not really a problem. Next time you post about the Olympics in the coming weeks, an AI-powered system

will review your words to keep athletes safe from cyberbullying. If they want to protect these athletes, I'd get them out of the same river, but they don't really care about the athletes because they're going to let them swim in a sewer, a literal sewer. They don't care about these athletes.

They're just using this as an excuse to try out their new surveillance state, because, again, everywhere in Paris, they wrote new laws. So they could put up more and more surveillance and take away more and more privacy. If you want safety, you're never going to have liberty. Those who will give up essential liberty for the promise of safety will not get either one of those. They don't deserve either one of those either. Moderation of content is no virtue, especially when you've got to protect somebody from cyberbullying. Come on. Yeah, we don't like it when anonymous people say hateful things about you. But if you're going to be in public, that's part of it.

You know, and just, you know, you can push back on it if you want to. But you don't need to be protected by the government and at the foundation of all this is the lie that speech is violence speech is not violence conservatives are capable of playing that game too as we just saw interpersonal violence is something that can be perpetuated in physical form, but it can also be perpetuated online. No, no. Speech is not violence. And so what they're saying is that this is beyond going through

and looking for certain keywords that would be obnoxious. They're using artificial intelligence, they said, in order to look at your intent. Isn't that nice? Isn't that great? So it's not looking for phrases like curses or racial slurs.

Language is often more subtle than that. So when you're dealing with an ocean of content, you need a tool that can sort through meaning. And that's where AI comes in. They have a tool called Threat Matrix. And what it does is it extracts the attitudes from the text. So it's going to look at what you write, and it's going to determine your attitude and flag that for you.

They said it would take an army of human beings to do the same kind of work. Isn't that interesting? Because, you know, this is coming from the army, or at least the military. It is coming from DARPA. Yeah, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, right? They're the ones who are pushing all this artificial intelligence stuff. The army.

The military. The military is pushing this censorship agenda. Nothing to worry about. Nothing could possibly go wrong with any of this stuff, right? Well, um, they said it is critical to nip this in the bud right now. They said, yeah, I say this calls for action. And now nip it in the bud. What are they going to call one of these AI things Barney?

Because that's like a Barney 5. They actually said that. We got to nip it, nip it in the bud, right at the beginning. During the games, Threat Matrix will scan social media posts in over 35 languages languages in partnership with facebook instagram tiktok and the savior of free speech x x it will then categorize different types of abuse and flag the post to a team of human reviewers and SWAT teams i'm sorry that mentioned the SWAT teams that comes later Professional athletes are highly exposed to cyberbullying, the poor things. And that's the toughest thing they've got to deal with, right? Well, if that's the toughest thing they've got to deal with, it's not too bad.

But AI has other uses, of course. Besides determining your attitude and sending the police after you for your attitude. It can also be used to up the speed cameras and the surveillance inside of your car. This is something that was reported on, had rolled out already in the UK. Quite a few jurisdictions in the UK already have this. And so now they're on their way to the United States to make even more money these new ai cameras

are set to be rolled out across the u.s to catch motorists using mobile phones at the wheel or failing to wear seat belts or driving over the posted speed limit stories from winepressnews.com the new ai technology is enabling police not only to catch speeding drivers but also to clamp down on motorists distracted by their phones even if they have them on their lap while at the wheel at least a quarter of the 44 police forces in england wales and scotland are already deploying cameras that can catch motorists who are using mobile phones at the wheel if caught drivers holding a handheld device behind the wheel can face six penalty points and a 250 fine increasing to 1300 and a driving ban if taken to court i don't know is that is that saying that you can't appeal it and they'll have extra

punishment i'm not sure. So what it does is it captures images of the vehicles as they pass. One is taken from a shallow angle to see if you got the phone up to your ear. The other one is looking down to see if you've got a phone in your lap. That's evidently a crime now, too. Or to see if your seatbelt is not buckled. Wow. And so then what the AI does it makes these determinations and it can send a violation package that's what they call it a violation

package to the police and that package might be you know speeding talking on the phone and not wearing a seat belt and of course you didn't hit anything but that doesn't matter you're a violator uh so uh yeah you know here's what i think about this stuff we've had toll roads i have the license plate readers and stuff like that and uh in texas for the toll roads nobody in my family uses toll roads. We oppose them in principle. And you would think that one thing that would be pretty easy for these things to determine would be the numbers on your license plate, wouldn't you? And yet we have been sent so many of these bogus things, and they've continued to send them. About once every six months, we get something, a new one from Texas, even though we don't go there we don't live there we don't travel there but we keep getting these things and you can either pay them a couple of dollars or you can spend 30 minutes to an hour to get them

to take this off say show me the picture you picture. They're supposed to take a picture of the car, the tag, and the person behind the wheel. And then when they look at it and you finally get somebody on the phone, they'll say, oh, never mind, never mind. But this is, so now they're going to do this with a lot of different things. And who's going to pay for all this stuff?

Well, you know, this is very profitable for local jurisdictions to have it. But even more so, they're going to boost it with the so-called infrastructure bill. $15.6 billion. That's running through Boudier's office, the Federal Department of Transportation. So Boud booty is going to be boosting this stuff for everybody and he's going to be bribing them to put in this surveillance system because you know they'll be able to use it for so many more things it's just going to be a multi-use thing just update the software uh and um so speeding increases both the frequency and the severity of crashes they said

well i'm living proof that's not true uh eight states specifically forbid the use of speed speed cameras while another 24 have no specific legislation to support their use as a matter of fact um if you challenge this in court whether it is a speed camera or whether it's a red light camera, some kind of automated violation generator, should say revenue generator. If that's done, then what you do is you take them to court and you say, I have the right to confront my accuser in court where's the representative from this company not the cop the cop's not accusing me uh i need somebody from this faceless box that is accusing me that that company that says i need to be able to interrogate them they won't show up uh so that's a very effective strategy, by the way. Tennessee has banned these speed cameras unless it is in a marked school zone where they say it's a school zone and we got speed cameras. Or if it's on an S curve.

And that was going back to 2015. But there's going to be $15 billion of federal fiat currency just printed out of nowhere, handed out to people to incentivize them to buy these AI cameras for surveillance. And so it is truly amazing how artificial intelligence is going to be used in that regard. And then, of course, in the music industry, people are very concerned what is happening in music everything is becoming so computerized and they can generate uh generic music uh so far all of it i've heard is pretty generic and it's a problem for the people who are selling um like storyblocks they sell um you know video that you can use or they sell uh license-free music that you can use of the background for a video or something like that so it's a problem for them i don't really see it although i i take that back if you listen to the top 40 today if you listen to uh what is is really popular um maybe ai can do that easily enough

but um when uh what they're talking about is using uh licensing people's voices isn't it interesting um i guess it was back in 2013 or so there was a movie that came out called the congress it had robin wright in it and i did a long report about it at the time and it was about the first part of it was very interesting because it posed exactly this type of situation but then it kind of devolved into this animated weird thing that was unwatchable but the first part of it posed an interesting question and it they actually referred you know used her real name robin wright and you know she needed some money for this stuff the first part of it posed an interesting question and it, they actually referred, used her real name, Robin,

right. And, you know, she needed some money for this stuff for, I think her kid was sick or something like that. And so they offered her a deal, said, you won't ever have to work again.

What we'll do is we'll pay you up front and we're going to completely digitize you, your body, your voice, your mannerisms, your movements and everything. so we can use you forever as you are now and we'll just pay that to you but you'll be prohibited from acting again and so it was really kind of about that and uh so we're starting to see that now with this

what they're saying is imagine a famous actor actor that you could use their voice on something like a Siri or something like a chat GBT. You know, they just stole Scarlett Johansson's voice for the chat 4-0. They said, no, we didn't. We got somebody sounded like her, a lot like her. They had approached her first. She said, no, thanks. So then they did something that sounded almost exactly like her. And then they removed it when she threatened to sue them.

But that's what they would like to have. They would like to have a chat box that carries on a conversation with you and the voice of a famous actor or something like that. So now they're working on licensing that. And the agents don't like that of course because it cuts them out agents and lawyers but the screen actors guild likes it and we've already seen this with um the music business to some degree i mean we just had randy travis who um we when my daughter came from texas um we went to a restaurant and she saw Randy Travis there she got up to go the bathroom and she came back said Randy Travis is here and he was there in

a wheelchair he'd had a stroke a few years ago he can't sing and yet the people around him used artificial intelligence to put out a new song and maybe it's a new album i saw something about it uh but they they put it together so already this is uh showing up and it's going to be more than just a speed bump i think it's going to be a big crisis for the acting in the movie industry but we're seeing yet again i'm not going to go into detail about it, the limiting factor of artificial intelligence is the human factor. And the fact that it has to mimic us. And they say that as artificial intelligence puts information out on the Internet that's not from humans,

that is, they call that synthetic data. They know that it's not from humans uh that is they call that synthetic data they know that it's not quite right and if it starts feeding on synthetic data and we've had now several different studies that have pointed this out as i said it's very much like mad cow disease where you feed cows to other cows or yakov kreutzfeld disease if you cannibalize humans, those humans, the cannibal humans, eventually get Yakov Kreuzfeld disease, which is a human version of mad cow disease. And the same thing is likely to happen, or actually been shown to be happening with artificial intelligence, the capability of doing that. They've done some studies on it.

And so this is an article from msn they said um uh in late july a paper from the journal nature titled ai models will collapse when trained on recursively generated data in other words trained on its own garbage but it was much earlier than that it's probably about six months ago that i reported somebody else and i forget who did the original research but then they said a week later rice and stanford universities published a paper titled self-consuming generative models go mad mad they mean by that model autophagy disorder autophagy means it's consuming itself. And it's like mad cow disease. And so they talk about two studies done a week apart,

but there was one that was done several months ago. So now there's at least three of these studies, all of them saying the same thing. That may be something that saves us from this horrific thing. And then we have Gun Owners of America filing suit about a Florida ban on open carry. And I thought this is really amazing. You know, in Florida, what they did was they came up with a constitutional carry bill, but it didn't allow for open carry. What it said was you can carry concealed without getting a privilege license,

essentially, from them. But it did not include open carry, which is really, really strange. 46 out of 50 states allow open carry. Gun Owners of America is filing a suit in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida. So this is blatant infringement. On April the 3rd, 2023, DeSantis signed legislation making Florida the 26th constitutional state in the Union to allow so-called constitutional carry.

However, unlike many other states where constitutional carry means that you can carry open or concealed for self-defense without a permit, in Florida, Constitutional Carry only applies to carrying concealed. Gun owners of America will argue that Florida's ban on open carry for self-defense cannot survive the Bruin test from the Supreme Court, which says that we're going to look at tradition. Tradition. Now, just look at what the Constitution says. It's ridiculous um but anyway it is if they look at it from the tradition standpoint it fails especially because why did we start to get uh concealed carry permits in the first place everybody could carry open but the

idea was is that if you got uh you know you got a derringer up your sleeve or you're you're concealing your gun that maybe you're up to no good you know having your gun there people know this person's armed and they treat them with respect of course you know as robert heinlein said in his science fiction novel an armed society is a polite society he wasn't the first one to say that that was the observation of a british colonel who came to america during the civil war arthur freemantle wrote a book three months in the southern states and he said um i was just i'm amazed that everybody in the south is carrying a firearm and he said and everybody is so polite there's a reason for that you see somebody

is carrying a firearm you you get a little bit more polite and so robert heinlein just condensed that for us uh so on may 20 uh 2021 uh south carolina governor henry Henry McMaster signed legislation making South Carolina the 46th open carry state in the nation. And so 46 states allow open carry. And yet Florida, even though they signed in the constitutional carry law last year, did not include open carry, which is really strange. And about half the states have constitutional carry law last year did not include open carry which is really strange and about half the states have constitutional carrying everywhere else it includes open care and here's the issue okay so you don't have to have a permit to carry concealed well let's say you got a jacket on and you you know, somebody sees the gun. Oh, no, you know, that's a crime.

It's a crime. It's crazy. It entraps people. And speaking of entrapment, the World Economic Forum has an article saying what I've been saying for a very long time. Essentially, we have to enact this global agenda locally. Their headline, why local action is crucial to addressing global climate change. They have a global agenda, and they have to enact it locally. And so they have a whole article about this from the World Economic Forum. Climate change is a global issue.

But communities and collectives, collectives, what is a collective? Are making, working locally, they're addressing these specific circumstances. So they're going to work locally to get the changes that they're achieving for a scalable blueprint for the planet. The Climate Reality Project, June 2024. What a joke. There's nothing at all real about any of this imaginary climate stuff. They are training a cohort of 1,000 climate leaders, approximately 10% of which are global shapers i tell you every one of their labels just

is cringe isn't it they've shown that there is a global network of inspired activists who want to take regionally relevant action locally and it's not really about that it's about lining the pockets of corrupt politicians locally they even have a part of this, they have a thing called Green Areas Intercity Agreement. Well, they put that together so they could call the organization Gaia. Gaia. The Greek pagan goddess

that supposedly represents Mother Earth. Mother Earth, where humans are considered to be a virus we're a virus that's going to kill mother earth you know mother earth it's a sentient being and these people literally believe it you know this is why jennifer lawrence and others say mother earth is angry look we got storms out here and all the rest of stuff not because we're eating margarine but it's because we're driving suvs now one of the key messages at davos 2024 was not to underestimate the power of partnerships locally and we make that mistake when we focus everything on federal elections and so when we come back i'm

going to talk about what's going on with federal elections just to help you to realize that you need to focus on things locally we'll be right back © BF-WATCH TV 2021 S.A. I am the king of the world. You're listening to the david knight show on rockfin dustin helm thank you very much for the tip i appreciate that and also on rockfin dusty milton says if they don't have a clear picture of the driver what's to stop them from charging the car with the offense and confiscating it well nothing of course i think dusty knows that uh all about civil asset forfeiture you know they've been charging inanimate objects with crimes for the longest time and nothing they don't even charge charge the owner let alone find them guilty and yeah, there's absolutely nothing that would stop them from doing that.

Except if people have had enough of this nonsense. At some point, we're going to have to do something about it. Because the politicians aren't going to do anything about it. Trump may have just lost Georgia on Saturday. Many people were saying. I was going to cover this yesterday, but I didn't have the time to get to it he repeatedly attacked governor kemp in georgia and that has evidently left gop leaders in the important battleground state of georgia absolutely furious a pair of reports from the atlanta urinal and Constipation and Politico,

quote, a number of prominent Republicans, some on the record even, some of them on background, anonymous, but, you know, many of them put their names out there. They're so angry. They said they're equal parts angry and confused by Trump's attacks on Saturday in Georgia. Bobby Sapero, the former Kemp campaign manager, said, I'm sitting here scratching my head.

Attacking the popular governor of a pivotal swing state makes zero sense. If we want to actually unite, ask for the support of the guy who beat your endorsed primary opponent by 52 points and handily defeated stacy abrams that's right um in 2018 trump had endorsed kemp and he won barely and then there was the dispute about the election in 2020 and so in 2022 trump endorsed a different candidate and the endorsed candidate of trump was trounced by 52 points by kemp and then kemp went on to

beat this national avatar stacy abrams in the general election so what's the takeaway from all this stuff as ty cobb his former lawyer said trump is motivated he's a deeply wounded narcissist who's motivated by revenge and incapable of acting except in his own perceived self-interest or out of revenge somehow he thinks this is in his own interest, but I think more likely in this particular case, he's focused on revenge. We've seen this from the head of the conservative Freedom Caucus in Congress

who endorsed DeSantis. And then Trump came after him and got him thrown out even after when desantis uh dropped out of the race uh he endorsed trump but trump wasn't going to have any um uh unity he wasn't going to consolidate things no this is personal you endorsed that other guy desantis and so now i'm going to throw you out of congress uh during the rally trump told his supporters kemp is a bad guy he's a bad man i'm gonna wish him into the cornfield sounds like billy mummy in the twilight zone the eight-year-old uh he's a bad guy he's a disloyal guy and he's a very average governor and he said georgia has gone to hell the former president's feud with kemp has been simmering since the 2020 election he blamed the

governor for his loss his attacks on kemp whose approval rating clocked in at 63 percent in a recent poll making him one of the most popular governors in the country, did not set well with Republicans in Georgia. I think the more important point is that you're trying to unify your party, and then you personally attack the most popular politician in the state who has said that he is supporting you. Oh, no, it's too late to support me now. I'm not going to take your support. It's amazing and not only that but um uh when kemp responded on social media

what kemp said was he said trump should focus his efforts on fighting crime not fighting unity and the republican party uh he trump also criticized kemp's wife marty and alleged that both of them were once grateful for his endorsement when kemp won the 2018 governor's race but now they're both a couple of ingrates they're bad they're disloyal because see the only thing that matters issues don't matter they don't matter at all to Trump. Nothing. You know, he endorses Kerry Lake and all these people who, you know, they don't care about issues either. It's about personality. And it's about loyalty to him.

So he doesn't care about issues. He cares about loyalty. He doesn't care about the Constitution. He cares about loyalty. Trump railed on Kemp for defying his demands to help overturn the 2020 loss in the state. And of course, as I reported the morning of January the 6th, I said, okay, like I've been saying, they're not going to do anything to fix the situation in Georgia. They're going to have vote by mail and all the rest of this stuff. Trump is saying the election system can't be trusted, and yet they didn't do any reforms at all.

No Republicans were interested in doing any reforms in Georgia. So on that Tuesday, January the 5th, before Wednesday, January the 6th, they lost both Senate seats in a runoff election, and the Republicans lost the senate to the democrats and then i said and don't show up today because it's a trap there's going to be agent provocatories there they're going to trap the people who show up and they're going to use it to entrap and to vilify all conservatives as well kemp told trump he said leave my family out of it. And he urged him to stop, quote, engaging in petty personal insults, attacking fellow Republicans and dwelling on the past. And so, you know, when you look trump would refuse to go on abc because he's going to be interviewed by this highly highly partisan uh and dishonest uh george stephanopoulos

and you can see how partisan and dishonesty is in this interview that he had with jd vance and what i think is interesting the most interesting thing about it however is that jd vance says in here the remedy to what happened on 2020 was the same thing that i said on december 14th uh 2020 when the electoral college votes were reported in i said it's over and i said here's why and here's what could have happened. And now it is over, and all this stuff about January the 6th is just a stop-the-steal grift to make money for Alex. And of course he fired me, that's fine. But here's what J.D. Vance said.

So you're not troubled by the sexual assault and defamation. Let me ask you about January 6th. You've been mentioned as a possible vice president for Donald Trump. Had you been vice president on January 6th, would you have certified the election results? Oh, George, this is such a ridiculous question, in part because the law has changed here. We, of course, had a major legal change to the electoral compact. I didn't ask you about going forward. I asked you what you would have done.

I asked you what you would have done. George, here's what I think happened in 2020. And I know you guys are obsessed with talking about this. I have to make a point here. You constantly say to people like me, why do you talk about January the 6th? Why do you talk about the election of 2020? And then you ask about us multiple times during a six-minute interview. But look, you ask the question, and I'll answer it. Do I think there were problems in 2020? Yes, I do. Do I think it was a problem that big technology companies working with the intelligence services censored the presidential campaign of Donald Trump? Yes.

Do I think it's a problem that Pennsylvania changed its balloting rules in the middle of the election season in a way that even some courts in Pennsylvania have said was illegal? Yes, I think these were problems, George. And I think there is a political solution to those problems. So litigating which slate of electors was legitimate, I think these were problems, George, and I think there is a political solution to those problems. So litigating which slate of electors was legitimate, I think is fundamentally the political solution to the problems that existed in 2020. It's a reasonable debate to have, and I find it weird, George, that people like you obsessed with what I call what happened in 2020.

You're so curious about what actually happened in 2020, which is why so many people mistrust our elections in this country. We've got to do better, George. I'm not the least bit in curious. In fact, you laid out a litany there, but you didn't answer the question I asked. Would you have certified the election results had you been vice president? If I had been vice president, I would have told the states like Pennsylvania, Georgia and so many others that we needed to have multiple slates of electors. And I think the U.S. Congress should have fought over it from there. That is the legitimate way to deal with an election that a lot of folks, including me, think had a lot of problems in 2020.

I think that's what we should have done. So it's very clear you would have done what Donald Trump asked you to do there, not what Mike Pence did. You said that that's not true because Pence said the same thing. Pence said the same thing. Massey said the same thing. Massey and Pence said they didn't give us anything to work with. And that's what he's talking about. He said we should have had different slates of electors. How do you get that?

Well, as I talked about on the 14th of December 2020, I said you got four states, razor-thin margin of error. Instead of playing all these games with Rudy Giuliani and, you know, pretending that you're doing a legal test of this stuff, and all of the judges were running from this stuff left and right, the key thing was to take the case to these four states that had a razor-thin margin for Biden, but had Republican legislatures, and two of them had Republican governors. And to say to them, okay, here's our evidence,

and if you believe our evidence, then you, the legislature, the Republican-controlled legislature, need to say, we recognize, officially recognize the Republican slate of electors. And if they had done that, then there would have the Republican slate of electors. And if they had done that, then there would have been a slate of electors that would be sent by the Board of Elections in those states, and then a second official, quote-unquote, official set of electors

sent by the legislature and the state. And then at that point, people likeence and people like thomas massey people like jd vance could have said okay which one of these are legitimate as he said you would have litigated different sets of electors but trump didn't do that and there were people who were saying you needed to do that but nobody in the trump organization did that there wasn't anything else that could be done. There was only one official slate of electors. You could have said, well, who gets to choose this?

Is this something that the executive branch in the state gets to do? Or does the legislative branch get to do this? Because it says in the Constitution that the electors will be selected by the legislatures. Because in those days the electors were selected as individuals not by a political party. And so you could have legislated that. Anyway, I think it's interesting that after four years, I hear J.D. Vance saying the same thing that Thomas Massey said, the same thing that I said in the middle of December about this camp and by the way next hour we are going to have

a man who spent a great deal of time as a technology entrepreneur and looking and exposing fraud he saved texas a billion dollars in welfare and food stamp fraud and inefficiencies. And so when all this stuff happened, the Trump campaign came to him and said, we'd like for you to take a look at this stuff. And he did. And he's written a book about what he saw and more importantly, about what needs to be done to reform the system. It's not simply about getting revenge.

That's the problem with the MAGA movement. They're not about reforming anything. They're not about reforming anything. They're not about any issues, not even the election issues. Instead, what they want to do is they want to get revenge. So Kemp has proven to be a rare Republican nationally who could hold his ground against Trump without sacrificing his power, his popularity. And ultimately, he has expanded it. As I said before, he narrowly won in 2018 when he was endorsed by Trump. But after four years, his popularity increased, just like DeSantis's popularity increased.

And so in 2022, he trounced by 52 points the person that was endorsed by Trump. And then he beat Stacey Abrams by seven and a half percentage points. As this article from Fox said, a veritable blowout to beat by seven and a half points in a battleground state. Kemp will chair the Republican Governors Association for the 2026 election cycle when he leaves office. He's widely known to be National Republicans top choice to take on the Democrat Senator John Ossoff and the midterm cycle. Eric Erickson said Trump can't help himself. That's right. He can't help himself.

It's just like the way he's got so much pride and narcissism that he keeps patting himself on the back for his poison keeps patting himself on the back for his lockdowns keeps patting himself on the back for smothering people not just poisoning them smothering them to death uh with the ventilators trump is really trying to build unity in Georgia by attacking Republican governor, a sitting Republican governor, whose ground game he will need to win, and also attacking the governor's wife, said Erickson. And if he loses, if Trump loses, it'll be because of this stuff, not because it's a stolen election. But understand that if he loses, there are so many MAGA people who are absolutely certain

that he is so far ahead that it's not possible for him to lose. That if he loses, it's a corrupt election and we need to fight this, maybe physically. There'll be people who, you know, people who will be identified by the FBI. And then they will be escorted and helped by the FBI to do something about it. And it will redound on everyone. Everyone. So Kemp says, leave my family out of it. And quite frankly, I would say the same thing about my family.

I want my family left out of this civil war. I don't want to have anything to do with any of these candidates from either of these parties. They're not worth anything. They're not worth going to the poll to vote for, let alone having a civil war. So, Kemp said, you need to focus on being Lala Harris and the Democrats, not on my family, he said. And Lindsey Graham got into this, trying to make peace. He told Trump to focus instead on winning the battleground state rather than settling scores. Do you want to win or do you want to get revenge?

Right? He's stupid. Trump is stupid. He's stupid in a different way than Lala Harris is. But he is just as stupid. This is as dumb, if not dumber, than the stuff about the cloud that we're all laughing at Lala Harris about. Mr. President, said Lindsey Graham, this is your election to lose. It's important you win to reset a broken border and get the world in good order.

Let's win this election. How about that? Let's win an election that we can't afford to lose. You want to stop with a revenge tour? No, he will never stop. In fact, he's being mocked by Rod Stewart because he talked about Lala Harris turning black from being Indian. And so Rod Stewart mocked him and said, put up pictures of how his complexion has changed over the years. Said he's turning orange.

Well, I think that orange is the new black, maybe. Certainly when it comes to politics. But again, she's a chameleon. That's the point. You know, the DEI aspect of it was her own DEI, doing it with herself. Which ethnic group do I want to belong to for the best bang for the buck?

And then that brings us to Kyle Rittenhouse, who said, well, I'm going to focus on the Second Amendment, and I'm not going to reward somebody who attacked the Second Amendment. Well, that only lasted for 14 hours over the weekend. About 14 hours after Rittenhouse shared his video explaining that he would not vote for Donald Trump because of Donald Trump trashing the Second Amendment, he said, I'm going to write in Ron Paul.

And he said, you must stand by your principles and he said he spoke with members of the trump team however 14 hours later and he said now i'm 100 behind trump will he be forgiven no because the people who support trump are just as vengeful and their minded and disregarding of principles as Trump himself, a pathetic response from these anonymous people, especially a cat turd who got a lot of publicity out of this aptly named by the way, I should say. Um, and he, he bragged about it. This is a guy that's got a couple of million followers.

I don't know how many followers Kyle Rittenhouse has, but he bragged about the. This is a guy that's got a couple of million followers. I don't know how many followers Kyle Rittenhouse has. But he bragged about the fact that he had blocked Kyle. And Reason Magazine, Reason.com says that nobody owes Trump their vote. Not even Kyle Rittenhouse. And I think the best comment I saw from people that were discussing this on social media, one person said, wait a minute, wait a minute. Did we support Kyle Rittenhouse because he supported Trump, or did we support Kyle Rittenhouse to support the Second Amendment?

Well, we know what Cat Turd and the Maga Tards, or you could say the Maga Turds. They're not Maga Tards. They're Maga Turds. We know what they were supporting. They're not MAGA tards. They're MAGA turds. We know what they were supporting. They're simply about the man. They don't care about anything, including the Second Amendment. One of the primary reactions to Rittenhouse's choice for president is that he's guilty of betrayal, says Reason. Well, Reason doesn't ask that. And Cat Turd.

They quote Cat Turd, they quote Cat Turd, who said, I can stomach a lot of things, but backstabbing millions who supported you at your lowest point, then turning on Trump right after he got shot, I can't stomach it. I won't put up with it. Forgotten forever. And he blocked him. Oh, imagine that. Imagine if you were bullied, cyberbullying by cat turd.

Who could stand that? Well, evidently, Kyle couldn't stand it. But, yeah, what about all those people who showed up on January the 6th for Trump at his lowest point? And then he just abandoned them. He didn't pardon them. He could have pardoned them. General Ford pardoned Nixon before he was charged. Andrew Johnson, who became president after Lincoln was shot, that whole insurrection act that was there that nobody was ever charged with,

the reason nobody was ever charged with it was because Andrew Johnson preemptively pardoned all of the Confederate soldiers that it was targeting. Trump didn't do anything like that. And you want to talk about betrayal. Did Trump betray the Second Amendment? Did he betray Main Street America with lockdowns and other things? Did he mail voting? Did he betray the election?

Did he poison and smother people? Yeah. Rittenhouse is supposedly, according to people like Cat Turd says reason Rittenhouse is allegedly in debt to Trump and his followers for supporting his claims of innocence he was acquitted in 2021 of all charges including first degree reckless homicide two counts of first degree recklessly endangering safety, first-degree intentional homicide, and attempted first-degree intentional homicide. And Reason said that acquittal was the right decision because that's what the evidence

supported. And that was the, you know, and the jury made the right decision the right to self-defense is not selectively available to people with certain views and your second amendment rights don't belong to you any more than your first amendment rights because you are a democrat or because you're republican see this is the problem with both the democrats and the MAGA turds at this point. They think that you ought to be censored if you don't agree with them. And if you support the Second Amendment, but not their candidate, oh, well, then we're going to throw you to the wolves and let you be persecuted politically, even though you're not guilty.

Kyle Rittenhouse was not guilty. That's the bottom line. And all these people out there who are tearing their clothes over the fact that he said he's not going to support Trump. Disgust me. These people are disgusting. And of course, Cat Turd was the leader of the club in all this mob. So why did Trump fail to gain Rittenhouse's support? Says Reason.

Well, if you cannot be completely uncompromisable on the Second Amendment, I will not vote for you, he said. And Reason Magazine says, well, there's Trump's record, including a bump stock ban, which reasons Jacob Sallam noted turned peaceful gun owners into felons by fiat and his support for red flag laws. But that reason doesn't even get to the worst of it. See, gun owners of America and some other gun rights groups understood, unlike the NRA and perhaps unlike Reason, they understood that the real issue with the bump stock was the precedent that it set. The precedent for gun control by executive order.

It's bad enough that Congress will presume to write laws that conflict with the Second Amendment. But it's even worse when an executive is going to do it by fiat dictates. And Trump also did it with a pistol brace. And then stopped it when the NRA opposed that in December of 2020, and then immediately Biden jumped in on that. The president was immediately noticed, as dumb as she is, Lala Harris, right after Trump said that. I said, when he said, I can do the bump stock ban myself.

And I said, you watch, the Democrats are going to pull this up. And immediately, immediately, Lala Harris, who was running for president at that time, said, yeah, I'll give Congress 100 days to enact my gun control measures. And if they don't do it, I'll do it by executive order. She immediately understood the precedent and wanted to jump on it. And so the issues don't matter. Not even the Second Amendment to these MAGA turds. Predictable responses.

You're helping the other guy. And as Reason says, that vastly overstates the power of a vote. And that vastly overstates the power of the vote, I would say, even if the elections were honest. And these people don't believe the elections are honest. And they don't want to do anything to fix them. They just want revenge. Even if it were true that Rittenhouse's vote would have some sort of earth-shattering effect on the election,

a vote is earned. It is an expression of support. No one is entitled to your vote. They are not entitled to it simply because they're a member of a particular political party. They're not entitled to it for supposedly being less bad than the other side. And they're certainly not entitled to it just because they said supportive things about you in a time of need, simply because they supported an innocent person who was being politically persecuted. See, I think a lot of people supported Kyle Rittenhouse, and they knew that this was a

precedent that was being set. If you're going to have people politically persecuted like this, that's going to set a very important precedent. And he needed to be supported for their own purpose see liberty and justice is something things that you can't have unless you support them for other people as well now here's the bottom line if trump is unwilling to defend his record against other Republicans even in debates. And he was. He did not want to talk about his record.

And he made sure that he didn't have to. And the Democrats were more than happy to put him forward, rather than somebody like DeSantis, who had been far more challenging. They put him forward because they made a martyr out of him. And all of these MAGA turds fell for that hook, line, and sinker. And now they see him as a martyr. Six out of ten Republicans see the Biden administration's hand in the Trump shooting. Now, the purpose of this, fine, investigate it. But what is happening with this is that it's building up this civil war over a martyr messiah. They're demanding that their guy win.

Oh, you tried to kill our guy. I am not certain what happened with that. But the last thing that we want to have, regardless of what happened with that shooting and regardless of what happens with the election last thing we want to have is a civil war over these guys like i said about january the 6th i said these people were not willing to go to washington and protest when they were locked down when they were humiliated with masks on their face when they were told you can't get six within six feet other people, when they were told that they needed to hang in there because you're going to take an experimental jab, they didn't push back against all that stuff. When their businesses were taken, when their jobs were taken, when they were humiliated

publicly with a piece of cloth on your face, they couldn't stand up for that, but they're going to stand up for the guy who presided over all that who paid for all of that and see that's what disgusts me about uh particularly about january the 6th all these people who are quiet about that oh now we gotta support trump he's our only hope well he wasn't any hope in 2020 and now they want to do it again andGA, we trust. Trump was chosen by God, say, worshipers of the MAGA church. You know, this guy's name is Moon. I thought, well, he's just like the Moonies. Actually, he's the son of the so-called Reverend Sun Yung Moon.

He now lives in America, in Tennessee, as a matter of fact. And when Trump went to the Coliseum in Charlotte, North Carolina, this guy, Sean Moon, who has what he calls the Rod of Iron Ministries, his sect of people show up with AR-15 rifles by their side for worship. What does that teach them? Maybe they should pull out the Psalms where they say,

some people trust in chariots and horses, or some people trust in AR-15s, or some people trust in politicians. Now, my trust is in the Lord God Almighty, in the Lord Jesus Christ. You trust in these other things. That is not Christian at all. Moments before Trump took the stage, he got up in Charlotte and he said, we believe that

God has chosen Trump and preserved his life during this terrible assassination attempt that the whole world saw. He also said that Trump stands for Christian principles. Please name one. This guy is covetous. You can go down to the Ten Commandments, right? Covetous, adulterous, liar, murderer, with the jabs, with the ventilators, with the jabs with the ventilators with the drugs

with the withholding of drugs all the rest of this stuff. Now we could go down every one of the Ten Commandments. How about honoring God? Does he do that? No. As Michael Brown says

vote for him if you must or if you wish but never say that trump has christian values and moon calls the biden government quote a satanic cult of power well i agree with him problem is it's not limited to the biden administration the satanic cult of power. Biden isn't running anything, obviously. You know, Pelosi wants to put him on Mount Rushmore.

Joking with Karen this morning, I said, yeah, right. I can just imagine how they would portray him. You know, he would be, you know, he'd have his mouth open, breathing through his mouth with an astonished look on his face, looking up to the left. Put him down at the bottom. You do the same thing with, bookend him with Hillary Clinton. That look of astonishment she had when they dropped the balloons at the convention. That's a look that he has all the time. It would work out pretty good when they have the fireworks. They'd be making the same face that everybody else does when we all look up at the fireworks.

Anyway, a satanic cult of power. That's what Washington is. And the presidents are just puppets. They're just a front. They're just a facade. Washington is a satanic cult of power. It was a satanic cult of power when Trump was there. It'll be a satanic cult of power it was a satanic cult of power when trump was there it'll be a satanic cult of power if trump gets back in there uh so um uh he is um absolutely clueless that's what is really going on and uh it is very important

um and they they interview this is uh the son out of the uk they talked a lot of people who said well i really think trump's going to win i think he's protected there was divine intervention when that bullet missed there's a reason for why that happened another person said this is a once in a lifetime thing i don't know if i'll ever get this opportunity again i like trump because he's not going to let anyone f over our country what was this person in 2020 the only thing that president trump wants to do is to save us is that right and one guy is going around all these different events selling um honey instead of being shaped and you know there it is thank you travis instead of it shaped and, you know, there it is. Thank you, Travis. Instead of it looking like, you know, the bear,

this is Orange Man. They've got a plastic bottle that looks like Trump and has got honey inside of it. And he's traveling around. Other people are traveling around selling grifting trinkets off of this stuff. The only difference between them and people like Glenn Beck and Mark Levin and Alex Jones is the amount of money that they make. And so Michael Brown wrote this op-ed piece, and he says, if you will, vote Trump, but

know that the GOP is not God's party. And he has to start with a disclaimer so the cult will listen to him he says i am a two-time trump voter i'll vote for him again uh but he said uh but i want you to listen he said i'm urging each of you christian conservatives who vote for trump and the gop to do with your eyes wide open recognizing that the gop is not the god okayO-D. He didn't say that. He said it's not God's party. But we need to make a big distinction. And too many Christians think the GOP is G-O-D,

if not specifically Trump. Trump is not the Jesus-centered leader of the Christian right, he said. Far from it. He said, for instance, featured speaker at the RNC was gay billionaire Peter Thiel, a personal friend of Trump, who said every American has a unique identity. I'm proud to be gay. I'm proud to be Republican.

But most of all, I'm proud to be an American. He said, I don't pretend to agree with every plank on our party's platform, but fake culture wars only distract us from our economic decline. And nobody in this race is being honest about it except Trump. So here's a billionaire. What matters to him? The rich, young ruler. Money. Money.

And so all this stuff about culture war is just a distraction from him being able to make money. And there's a lot of people in the Republican Party that speak to that. You know, they're primarily about money. But understand that, you know, our liberty and our prosperity is a blessing from God. It's downstream from that. The founders of this country understood and acknowledged that, regardless of what their personal beliefs were. I mean, I'm not holding them up as religious leaders any more than I would any other politician.

But they acknowledged God and the fact that these were spiritual blessings. When did you ever hear that from a politician today? And the culture war is downstream from the spiritual war. The culture war, what is happening in our culture, as well as our prosperity, is all downstream from our relationship with God. And so Michael Brown says Republicans like Thiel don't need to worry about differing with a party platform. All affirmation of God-ordained marriage has been removed from the GOP platform,

along with all opposition to same-sex mirage. That's why the headline to an op-ed piece on Newsweek said, quote, Trump's new GOP platform is a massive win for LGBT Americans. He says in that op-ed piece, he says, while Trump made history as the first president to take office accepting gay marriage, the Republican platform he formally ran on in 2016

explicitly endorsed traditional marriage and traditional family based on marriage between one man and one woman. But see, the thing is, Trump was never a part of that. Trump always pushed LGBT issues. He pushed trans people for his beauty contest. He said, I think it'd be great. Let's have some trainees in here. And so what has changed is the fact that it has now become his party.

He completely owns it, lock, stock, and barrel barrel he put his daughter in charge of it and so uh when you look at what the platform says understand it is his it encapsulates what his views have always been and the new 2024 platform says the newsweek op-ed republicans just released this language is nowhere to be found. The document says nothing about gay marriage at all. There's no endorsement of traditional marriage, no call to overturn the Supreme Court's decision or anything else, because

the Constitution doesn't matter to them either. You know, that's a separate issue. You know, there's the moral issue, and the Christian issue, but then there's also the constitutional issue. Does the Supreme Court have the authority to define when life begins, to define what marriage is? And of course, the answer is no.

And neither does the Congress, unless you amend the Constitution. I think it's important that we respect the Constitution, because if we don't, we wind up with things like the drug war. And things that come out of that pandora's box like civil asset forfeiture and all the swat teams and the militarization of the police and the corruption of the courts and all the rest of the stuff that has come out of that pandora's box of prohibition because we didn't respect the constitution like they did when they prohibited alcohol and so um as a headline to an op-ed piece of the National Review stated, the GOP platform is a major loss for the pro-life movement.

For decades, the Republican platform has invoked the unborn child's fundamental right to life, which cannot be infringed. It has called for a constitutional amendment and legislation to make clear that the 14th Amendment's protections apply to children before birth, but no longer. The Trump GOP has gutted its language regarding abortion. Because understand, all issues are unimportant. All that matters is loyalty to Trump. You know, Kemp needs to learn that lesson.

And, you know, congressmen that he pushes out, Republican congressmen who are conservative, they need to learn that lesson. The only thing that matters in Trump's GOP is personal loyalty to him. So, again, only the chosen one. So despite Trump's frequent professions of faith most recently he did it at turning point usa believers summit i love you christians i'm a christian and michael brown says uh and despite him saying the quote-unquote sinner's prayer uh privately with different Christian leaders.

He says, I've heard this from them anecdotally. He said, there is no real evidence that Trump understands what it means to be a Christian. As for Trump being a changed man after coming within an inch of his life, he's jokingly stated that the change lasted for a few hours at most. But, you know, when he says whatever he does with these pastors privately, publicly, he said over and over again, I played for it. He says he needs no forgiveness. And I've used that as an example, not to attack or to condemn or to judge Trump, but to show the attitude that many people have, not just Trump. Many people don't think that they need God's forgiveness. They think that they can earn their salvation. I can just do good things and I'll wipe it out. I'll balance out the bad stuff

that I've done. The problem with Trump and what he really needs prayer for is these very preachers who surround him, like Paula White, who sells him a prosperity gospel, which is the only gospel he's interested in. He got that from norman vincent peel and he's found paula white who will give him the same stuff uh so what does he mean when he says i'm a christian i don't know what what does flynn mean when he says uh when he says he pretends that he's a christian and he leads people in prayers to pagan ascended masters. Plagiarizes them verbatim. Or when he celebrates Pride Month and this seal, the second annual pride thing in 2014.

That's Michael Flint giving him an award. I've not heard him weigh in on that subject and when we talk about uh trump having a um profession of faith uh he just all he says is i'm a christian at the turning point usa believers summit you know i just we had uh recently we just had some very good friends of ours been friends for a very, very long time. They came to see my daughter when she came with her baby. And she said something about this Charlie Kirk thing. I said, do you realize who Charlie Kirk is? And she did not want to hear it at all.

Didn't want to hear, didn't want to see video. I'm going to play for you. This is what happens when we as when we get tied in to a particular person where they're she's not tied into Trump. She's tied into Charlie Kirk and she thinks he's a great Christian leader. Well, you know, we talk about being a Christian leader, you know, before Charlie Kirk was pushing the idea of being a Christian, he was not fighting a spiritual war. He was fighting, five years ago, a cultural war. And so, as a cultural war, he thought it was going to help him win to virtue signal about being on the side of lgbt and the black guy that he had there is still on the uh charlie kirk's website turning point usa as one of their speakers he said i'm more hated because i'm a republican uh then because i am a black homosexual he said well uh the people who are are doing that uh that's that's not uh you know

christian value to hate him you know we don't hate people we warn people about the sin that god hates but uh to use this as a virtue signal and charlie k Kirk was not mistaken. He was grifting. What he was doing was he was putting this out so he could enlarge the tent and bring more people on board who are going to make it not about issues. You know, if he wants to come in, he wants to be a co-belligerent on a particular issue, for example. You don't have to share my beliefs. I don't have to agree with your lifestyle.

But if you're going to make it about celebrating your lifestyle, celebrating the fact that he's gay, which is what Charlie Kirk was doing, then we're talking about something completely different. They're coming together over some issues like, let's say, you know, fighting abortion or something like that. Here's the challenge that was made to Charlie Kirk about his so-called culture war. E. Michael Jones' groundbreaking work, we now understand that sexual liberation is political control. It's a form of political control. And you have multiple times advocated on behalf of accepting homosexuality, accepting homosexual acts as normative in the conservative movement. How does anal sex help us win the culture war? I'm going to let the gay man answer that. Wait a minute, wait a minute.

So can I ask you a question? Can you have the balls to ask the gay man on the stage that question and don't defer to him? So ask me that question. I want to answer you that question. No, no, no. I'm going to ask you. You already asked the question, so I'm going to answer that question.

I'm going to ask you that question. This is America. This is the greatest freaking nation in the world. We realize that America is great because we have Western values. We realize that, no, no, let me finish, dude. We realize that gays and lesbians are able to contribute to American society in the same way that everybody else is. And let me tell you, And let me tell you, and let me tell you, when you continue doing that, okay, you realize that we are here,

we are able to do everything. And let me tell you something as well. I served in the military, right? I served five years. I did an Iraq tour. What's up? How does homosexual sex help us win the culture war? Who said homosexual sex helps you win the culture war? That is the question that I'm asking. Why are you promoting it? Well, it's a BS question. Why make it about that? It's a question that is...

Why are you making it about that, then? It's not a good faith question. I'm going to be honest. It's the dude that's not a good faith question. Honestly, I don't care what two consenting adults do. So, that's... That's everything. And your hyper-focus on it is kind of weird. Thanks for being here.

You seem to be really interested in gay sex. I'm pretty sure if you're into that, you can go find somebody. So that's how they respond to it. They accuse him of being into gay sex. Again, it's directed to Mr. Kirk because he was raised as a conservative. You know, as the guy before us said, us said, you've advocated for homosexuality, said that there's a place for the gay agenda within the conservative movement. My question is, and you're also comfortable conservatives should take a moral stance on Christian morality,

or should we abandon it altogether? So in other words, what is TPUSA's, what is your brand of conservatism doing to actually conserve Christian morality? If we're ceding to the left on transgender, gay rights, gay marriage, we don't want that in conservatism. So you don't want him in the conservative movement? I just want to be very clear. Let's just be... So you don't want me in the movement? Hold on a second. I want to be very clear. Hold on a second.

You're bringing some very charged language. I'm going to try to calm down the temperature in the room so I can try to rationally understand an irrational position. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. What is the culture of war that this conservative is trying to conserve? The Bible is the greatest book ever to exist in the history of the world. And I believe Rob Smith has decency and dignity as an individual in the United States of America.

Hold on a second. We're not a theocracy. We never have been. But now he's holding religious revivals. Because I'm in it. He's addressing me. The thing that I don't understand, well, I'm addressing you. How about that?

You don't even have the courage to address the gay man on stage. So the problem that I have with, as somebody that is a gay Christian, and this is the problem that I have, because my relationship with God and coming back into the church over the past year and a half is one of the greatest gifts that has been given to me in terms of being in this movement. So my question, and my question to everybody who tries to say that, oh, you shouldn't be Christian because you're gay, why are you trying to turn people away from God? So if you love God, and Christianity is so right because I do love God. So what? So they're not trying to

turn him away. They're trying to turn him toward God. Jesus said, why do you call me Lord, Lord, and you don't do what I say? So the Bible is not the greatest book ever. The Bible is God's word. And if you want to know what defines a Christian, if you want to know what a disciple is, then maybe you should read God's Word, not a great book. And he says it's not a theocracy. And yet, what is he trying to do now? You know, he is presenting himself. Five years later, he is now presenting himself, and he still has the same speaker there.

He still has the same values. But he's presenting himself in believers' summits. Folks, Charlie Kirk is just another one of these grifters, and he will use God or Trump or anything to make money in the same way that Alex Jones will use Blair White, the tranny, the same way that he was all about Milo Yiannopoulos when he was a gay conservative. And now that he's not gay, that he's not gay that he's just conservative he's not really interested in him anymore it's a grift it's an act and people need to understand uh what is going on with it on rumble am i too okay um uh thank you for the tip

he says hit that thumbs up yes i would appreciate that thank you and on tip. And he says, hit that thumbs up. Yes, I would appreciate that. Thank you. And on Rumble, M. Seller says, last week, our MAGA neighbor gave us a Trump coin. Said a friend of his gave it to him and said to pass it along. You'll know who to give it to. God will show you. So he chose us.

This is a cult. It is us this is a cult it is it is a cult this is again uh these people they will back off when you start to say but what does god actually say oh well you want to make it a theocracy and yet they're the ones who are pulling in religion, a false religion, a false religion, in order to make money with their MAGA cult. That's what must be opposed. Costs us friends, it costs us viewers, but so be it. We have to oppose that. We're going to take a quick break and we will be right back Thank you. Kau takutkan kuatir, you're listening to The David Knight Show. On Rock Fanta, Syrian Girl said,

I would appreciate your prayers. I've been struggling with pneumonia. I'm very sorry to hear that. And we'll keep you in our prayers. And we just pray that God will bless you. God is the one who heals. We treat. We have doctors who treat. We treat ourselves.

We try to do what we can. But we understand ultimately that it is God who gives us our health, who sustains us in our life. And I just pray that God would bless you as you honor him and look to him for help. England, let's talk about this. I didn't talk about this yesterday. Of course, a lot of things happening over the weekend we have a lot of people saying it is on the border on the verge of civil war and we know how this has been uh gradually and deliberately brought to the people in the uk

with open borders they're doing it to all of the countries with open borders. And now the new Labour leader, Starmer, has vowed swift action against anti-immigration extremists. Very much a double standard, and people in the UK are calling it two-tier policing. Here we call it a double standard uh what um predicated this is the slaying of three young girls and the stabbing of eight others including children the teacher that was there was extremely um was seriously injured and it was done by a 17 year old and uh part of what what the mainstream media is focusing on they're using this as an opportunity to do uh to ramp up the police state to ramp up censorship and other things like that because there was a missed report and i wanted to cover this because i had um read the original missed report as well a A lot of people covered it.

It was from a news organization called Channel 3 Now, which I thought was a UK channel. But it turns out that it is one of these kind of quasi-Russian things like Before It's News. They just came up with a new name for it. And they came up with an invented name, a Muslim name, and said that the 17-year-old who did this had just recently come over on a boat. It turns out that he was a second-generation immigrant, 17 years old. His parents came from Rwanda. He was born in the UK. But as I've said before, we see this many, many, many times

where you have somebody come in from a Muslim country and the second generation, not the first generation, but the second generation is usually the one that does these types of attacks they grow up and they are isolated and they are resentful they're even taught by the government schools to hate the people and the the native people in their country you know the brits are bad the americans are bad and that type of thing everybody's taught that but they're also are ostracized they're struggling their parents are poor maybe they don't speak english very well they don't have a lot to help them get started and it makes them very bitter that is escalated by the schools and it is frequently the case that it's the second generation that will do these violent attacks downing street spokesman said the prime minister set out

that the police have our full support to take action against extremists. Prime minister ended by saying that the right to freedom of expression and the violent disorder we have seen are two very different things. There is no excuse for violence of any kind and reiterated that the government backs the police to take all necessary action to keep our streets safe. And of course, many people feel that way about it. But what they're doing is they're using this as an opportunity to ramp up the police state,

to ramp up surveillance, to ramp up censorship, to ramp up the ideas of hate speech, and to also make it all about this false report. Essentially, that report is a distinction without a difference, really, if you look at it. So you've had Farage, his deputy, said many millions of concerned British citizens are furious at lawless Britain. It's not just this particular incident. It's not just the mobs that have come out to attack these hotels where they're housing massive numbers of migrants. They said children are being slaughtered. Machete mobs are abounding.

Soldiers are being stabbed. Police are violently attacked at the airport. And instead of doing anything about the crime, instead of empathy, Keir Starmer labeled people as far right and out of touch if they have a problem with this. And so former Labor MP, current government advisor on political violence, John Woodcock, who argued that the government should consider a coronavirus style lockdown in order to stamp out the uprising if it continues to persist. You see, that's the purpose of the open borders. The purpose of the open border, the purpose of George Soros putting in district attorneys who will let criminals out right away. As we see, you know, shoplifting, you can arrest them for shoplifting. We just let them go as long as they don't take more than 900 and something dollars per visit they can pilfer the stores endlessly and they can create organized mobs to do that as well and we can bring in people in massive numbers

who have absolutely no prospects no means of support Bring them in as dependents upon the state. They live in poverty and dependency. They get angry, and the second generation gets violent. So we have Balaclava-clad mob storms, a migrant hotel, about 700 anti-immigration protesters draped in St. George's flags, that's a flag of England as opposed to the UK flag, attacked the hotel in Rotherham, South Yorkshire about two o'clock on the weekend. And so obviously something needs to be done about the violence. But the violence is there because nothing is being done about these other issues. As JFK said, if you make peaceful change impossible, you make violent change inevitable.

They understand that. That's what they want, you see. We are now in this fourth turning. They know precisely the rhythm and the pattern of social change and they're doing everything they can to enforce this so we have civil wars so we have a world war so we have a great depression they want to be able to reset the table and this is all part of it and so part of this is a or the red herring of talking about Channel 3 now in order to divert attention away from the fundamental issue that the government doesn't want to do anything about, and that is the borders. So, again, this guy never existed.

It was a made-up thing, but that doesn't change the fundamentals behind all of this and the fact that the government is going to do nothing to correct anything. They want to sow chaos and confusion and destabilize. And it's the government who wants to do that, not just a Russian paper. Dr. Roger Watson writes in the Daily Skeptic, he said, civil disorder has come to my hometown. He said, when I returned from Hong Kong on Saturday, there was a larger than normal police presence at the Hull railway station. One of the local Islamic centers near the city center was surrounded by local Muslim men,

presumably in anticipation of trouble. He says, but why Hull and why the Royal Hotel? He said, it was once described as a first-class hotel by Travel Weekly, but it's changed hands several times in recent decades. Each time they find themselves under management, progressively less prestigious owners, he said. The most recent owners, therefore, must have been delighted to have been approached by a housing and social care provider, which is under contract to the home office

to provide accommodation for asylum seekers. Initially, only a few were housed there. But he says, but the number has increased to the point where the hotel is no longer accessible to the public. The attractive Art Deco entrance from the station has been locked for months.

The issue has united local MPs, one of them conservative, another one labor. But both of them have raised concerns in Parliament. And these problems will not be fixed. He said in the past decade, the face of Hull has changed noticeably. Two main shopping streets with small businesses are now almost completely in the hands of Muslim shopkeepers and restaurant owners. The streets are now ostensibly Muslim areas with large groups of young men hanging around

at the entrances to businesses. There is little, if any, trouble, but some locals feel increasingly uneasy and are vocal about their concerns. Their country has been taken away and given over to other people. And let me just say this. As I said before, prosperity is a blessing from God. And over and over again in the Bible, we see God saying to people of Israel, people that he said, here, I'm going to create you as a special nation. And yet he says, because of your disobedience, I'm going to hand you over.

I'm going to hand your country, I'm going to hand you over to other people. This type of thing that is happening to us in the West is a curse from God. You know, there's not any intermediate place there, right? You're either blessed or you're cursed. There's no third option. And that's really what the spiritual war and the cultural war that is downstream from that is really about. So he says the immigrants to Hull are largely former asylum seekers that have been granted a place to live in the UK, but placing hundreds of young, mainly Muslim, mainly men in the heart of the city has tested the city's resolve.

People in the city center feel particularly galled at the fact that while those in the more middle class parts of Hull will wax lyrical about the need to house asylum seekers, their enthusiasm wanes at the thought of having them in their backyard. Well, we know about that. He says, I share concerns about the influx of asylum seekers to hall and the changing face of many parts of our small city but we do not want riots here and we do not want outsiders with malicious intent attacking the police the property or these migrants you see that's precisely why precisely why this has been done and um when we look at um uh how this is being played out uh oh travis just tells me lala has chosen

minnesota governor tim waltz as her vp running mate well that's weird so he was the guy who was uh really pushing that stuff with a weird uh thing about jd vance uh i saw uh on the hill kind of mainstream political publication they had an interview with some guy named charlemagne the god i don't know what he's the god of um he's some rapper i don't care what actors and singers and rappers think about politics actually i'm pretty sure charlemagne has never been a rapper just a rap critic oh okay is that what he is he's a rap critic pretty sure okay so he talks about people who talk anyway uh they said uh he said well don't talk about uh la la being dei he says the only dei is the fact that she's got to find a straight white dude for her vice president and i said well

see there you go that that's a minority position in the democrat party if you can find any straight white dudes, they have to be elevated because they are a minority. Well, our guest is ready, and I don't want to keep him waiting too long, but I do want to play a little bit of this, because when they're going around attacking free speech, this is what it looks like. An elderly person who is confronted at his house by these police. Am I going to be locked up for the night? Do I need to bring my medications, he says. Okay, so...

What do you mean I can't have any alcohol? Okay, well, I'll tell you. Okay, the time's 20 to 3, 1440. I'm arresting you on suspicion of improper use of the electronic communications network. What? 1, 2, 7, communications act, okay? So you do not have to say that it may harm your defence.

Do not mention one question, subject to later on in court. Anything you do say may be given evidence. Do you understand that? So I'm actually being arrested? You're going to be arrested, okay? Right. So you've got to the police station. This is in relation to some

comments that you've made on the Facebook page. Yeah, the speech police. Facebook crime, is it? Okay. Facebook crime. We need to ask you some questions about that. Alright. Yeah, and it goes on. It is absolutely deplorable.

We have Facebook police. we have hate speech as i said before extremism in defense of free speech is no vice and moderation of content is no virtue and it is deplorable that this would be used this this is an old guy um if he was uh out there uh getting violent and beating people fighting the the police or something, that's a different situation. But he's being arrested because of speech. And that's precisely why they have engineered this situation. We're going to take a quick break. We're going to get our guest on and we're going to talk about the election.

The name of the book that he has written is Ken Block. The book that he has written is Ken Block. The book that he has written is Disproven. My Unbiased Search for Voter Fraud for the Trump Campaign. The data that shows why he lost and how we can improve our elections. Imagine that.

Taking a look at how we can reform things. Who would have thought that anybody would do something like that? We're going to take a quick break and we will be right back. ORGAN PLAYS © BF-WATCH TV 2021 ¶¶ Defending the American Dream. You're listening to The David Knight Show. All right, welcome back. And our guest is Ken Block. And the book is Disproven, My Unbiased Search for Voter Fraud in the Trump Campaign,

the data that shows why he lost, and how we can improve our elections. And we're going to spend a lot of time on election reform, not so much about litigating 2020. He's got a lot to say. How did he get involved in this? Well, he is president of a software systems company, Simpatico, a software engineer and entrepreneur, specializes in database technologies and groundbreaking projects such as the country's first statewide debit card benefit system and in texas he saved them a billion dollars off of the

fraud and waste and their snap programs but he said he wasn't really interested in getting involved in politics but you know sometimes we find that politics is interested in us. In the past decade, he's analyzed voter data from more than 40 states. The few that he has yet to analyze do not provide their data to the public. He has served as an expert in legal challenges that involve voting data, voter fraud, and election integrity. So we'll talk to him about all these things and about what he has learned as he investigates this. What can we do to make sure that we have honest

elections that are not going to be contested? Thank you for joining us, sir. Thanks for having me. It's very important because we've got a lot of people are very concerned about this, and rightfully so. A lot of people are ready to have a revolution if the candidate that they think should win does not win and in a you know equally divided country like this half the people are pretty much feeling that way i saw that your foreword was written by brad raffensperger of the georgia secretary of state that uh you know again over the weekend i talked about this at the beginning of the program. Trump was furious at Governor Kemp. He didn't talk about Raffensperger, but they have in the past. And so, you know, he is, and I said this about him, I said, it's unfortunate that he is so focused on revenge that he can't be focused on even winning, let alone on reform.

And so I want to talk about that. But before we get into what we can do for reform, tell us a little bit about your take on what happened in Georgia where you investigated. Yeah, it's the idea that in states that are whisker close, and we have a bunch of them. We have Arizona, Pennsylvania, Georgia. Michigan is not really whisker close and we have a bunch of them we have arizona pennsylvania uh georgia michigan is not really whisker close but close enough nevada the idea that if the election goes one way as

opposed to another that the only explanation for it must have been fraud uh is a not an accurate way to depict what happened in these elections and in georgia in 2020 uh there are there's a ready explanation for what happened and georgia is maybe in a lot of ways the closest state uh that we have in terms of being evenly divided between democrats and republicans uh the the results of the 2020 election have been gone up and down and backwards and forwards and sideways, and there really hasn't surfaced any credible claim of voter fraud that could be proven. And in my work for the Trump campaign, I was hired very specifically to do data analytics that would stand up in a court of law. My job was to find enough voter fraud to matter in one of the swing states, document it, and have it be so rock solid that when it got taken to court, the other side's experts wouldn't be able to tear it apart.

That's sort of the gold standard when you're dealing with legal challenges to elections. You have to have a foundation of fact in which to be successful in court. And the simple fact of the matter is, whether it was Georgia or any of the other swing states, while we found some voter fraud, we didn't find nearly enough to cover the margin of victory. And the margin of victory in Georgia was roughly 12,000 votes. It was roughly 11,000 votes in Arizona, roughly 90,000 votes

in Pennsylvania. And in none of those states did we find enough voter fraud to cover what those margins were. And that's just a plain statement of fact. And there were so many election challenges that failed in the court system because the nature of their proof wasn't acceptable proof in courts of law. Right. And that's just sort of a... Was there any talk about them taking their findings? I know that you were there to prepare the findings that they would use to argue the case. But did they ever talk about taking the case instead of to a court, to the legislature? Because I know four of these razor-thin margin of victory for Biden for these states had Republican legislatures. Were they ever talking about presenting a case to the legislature to get them to acknowledge a Republican slate of electors officially?

And then you would have had, as Thomas Massey talked about, as Pence talked about, as J.D. Vance recently talked about, to have then a court case as to who gets to decide who the electors are. Is it going to be the governor and the executive branch, or is it going to be the legislative branch? Was there ever any talk about taking the case to the legislatures? So I wasn't part of any strategy meetings uh inside the campaign my job was incredibly focused and i had 30 days to do

what amounted to about a year's worth of work so i i was i was uh highly occupied and uh segmented away from everything else that was swirling around the campaign at the time. What I would say in general is that legislatures probably are not the best body to try to ascertain a very technical determination, which was did fraud occur and how did it occur? Many members of legislators don't have that in their background. So it would be my preference that if it's going to be contested, that it gets contested in a venue where they can handle highly technical presentations and digest the facts. And our court system does that all the time. Legislatures typically don't. So that's just from a process perspective. That's kind of where I'm at. Sure. In Georgia, there are three different data points that really help document what really happened in Georgia. circles uh secretary raffensperger is not well liked uh but the data that he brought forward and and can document has documented and it's hard proof uh he showed that about 30 000 gop presidential

primary voters in georgia in 2020 took a pass on the general election uh those are lost presidential votes for president trump and he lost by fewer than 12 000 votes now those 30 000 votes were probably moderate republicans call them rhinos whatever you want to call them who probably voted against trump in the primary and then decided they couldn't they couldn't bear to vote uh in the general election and there was another 30 000 votes that raffensperger brought forward and has the proof for that showed that uh the presidential selection was left blank but all the down ticket republicans received votes and again that's a sort of symbolic protest votes by very likely middle-of-the-road republicans uh who liked to down ticket uh gops but didn't like what was at the top of the ticket uh and that's hard evidence

to overcome and there's really no credible fraud that you can look at that comes close to having the solidity of the numbers that uh that raffensperger brought forward uh that matches with what with what my nationwide findings are and uh those are basically that trump lost about two and a half percent support across the board everywhere in 2020 relative to 2016. and those are the rhinos i'm pretty sure those are the rhinos who took a hike uh and left it's not a lot of voters but in a whisker close election it was enough most probably people who were not too happy with what had happened the first part of 2020 let me ask you uh you know the lockdowns and things like that that kind of soured a lot of us uh on on what was going on but

uh let me ask you about the vote by mail thing, because that was a function of the lockdown as well. And we'd never done that before. How did you audit or how did you view the vote by mail stuff? So we looked at the mail ballots, not so much from the process of mail ballots. Were there changes to rules made to allow mail ballots to be changed, how mail ballots were used? My role in looking at them was, were dead votes cast by mail? Did people who voted by mail vote twice in two different places?

The nature of what I was looking at was those sorts of things. You know, it was really a remarkable period of time in a lot of different ways. And honestly, I think maybe had we not had COVID, I actually believe there was a better than even money chance that President Trump would still be President trump right now i think covid cost him dearly uh in this election uh did mail ballot use tip the balance i don't think so because i think anybody who was motivated to vote would have figured out how to vote one way or the other uh the presumption is were mail ballots used used in some nefarious way? Was massive mail ballot fraud happening? And I didn't see evidence of that. I mean, to commit mail ballot fraud, you're either going to steal someone's identity and vote as somebody else, or you're going to steal a deceased person's identity and do that.

And we found a couple of dozen dead votes in most of the swing states uh we found a couple a hundred duplicate votes uh across the swing states and and the the campaign spared no expense on this we we exhaustively looked at uh every single mail ballot to ensure that the person whose name that mail ballot was cast was among the living what do they do to cast a ballot? Do they have to request it? And is it mailed to them at an address or something? Or do they just pick it up and then mail it in themselves?

How did that work? So what's really frustrating is it's different from state to state to state. We're going to get into that down the line. In many states, you have to fill out a mail ballot application mail it in they verify your signature and then when the time is right they'll mail you a ballot that you then return that's like the absentee ballot process that we've had for a very long time right right yeah a few states and this goes this happened before covid states like california and oregon uh and colorado interestingly have moved to uh entirely conducting their elections by mail uh they send out mail ballots to everybody uh and if you don't

want to vote by mail you have to take extraordinary actions to opt out of voting by mail and instead to vote in a different way so we had a mix of those different things. Many states made voting by mail easier in 2020. The hardest state in the country to vote by mail is, I believe it's Louisiana, that has very strict usage in terms of who can use it and under what circumstances. So it's all over the map uh i didn't see any partisan uh slant to the mail ballot fraud that we did find uh it was pretty evenly divided by democrats republicans independents uh and that's been the case of all the voter fraud I've documented over the years. I have yet to find a form of voter fraud where when it happens, it's just sort of a bipartisan activity.

How would you audit a situation to find out if somebody was voting for a dead person and i asked because um i a friend of my brother-in-law's in 2012 in north carolina they have at least at that time they had the longest voting period of any state and there was no uh picture id so you could just walk in and give them you could vote early and uh when you went to vote you just give them a name and address and there was no validation of that with even a driver's license and so on election day uh this friend of my brother's and brother-in-law's goes in and um to register he gives him his name and address and he said you've already voted and so is this other person at your address and he said well that's my mom she's been dead for several years so how do you how do you audit that uh to to know if that is happening, you know, in Georgia, for example? Well, so in 2020, the Trump campaign had us process every single mail ballot voter in the swing states.

There was about 31 million of them. Wow. We process them through a data vendor who matches up the voter with their social security number. And then using the social security number, you can look at something called the social security death master file, which is the social security administration tracks everybody who dies. So we use that mechanism 31 million times for every mail ballot that was cast. What did you find election uh like i said you know we found a couple at most uh a couple of dozen in each swing state uh not nearly enough to matter uh i did predict because i had done an analysis in pennsylvania about a month before

the election i found a couple of recently registered dead voters, and I predicted that those would become mail ballot fraud, and they did. Yeah, yeah. Now, you did your research. You presented your findings to the Trump campaign and who had hired you to their attorneys, and you also reported to Mark Meadows all of your results. Is that correct? Yeah, so I didn't speak directly to mark meadows the uh lawyer who hired me and who basically was my point person throughout

this whole thing alex cannon uh he the basic premise of what i did were two different things i looked for duplicate votes i looked for voters. And then the campaign used my company to help vet every claim of voter fraud that came their way. There were a lot of them from outside of the campaign. He asked us to vet them, determine whether they were true or not before they would consider taking those claims into court. So they were operating in a very careful, methodical way. They asked us to review about 20 different claims of fraud. Some of them came in through folks like Sidney Powell and John Eastman. Others came through academics or just random people out there who did their own research. And every one of the 20 different claims that we looked at,

we were able to show why it was wrong. When we wrapped things up towards the end of November, Cannon took the summation of everything that we had done and went to Mark Meadows and told Meadows that when it came to voter fraud, we looked pretty exhaustively at it. All the claims we looked at were false and we couldn't find enough voter fraud to have changed exhaustively at it all the claims we looked at were false and we couldn't find enough voter fraud to have changed the outcome in any election and when did when was that presented what was the date that roughly that you presented that stuff well so i i didn't do a presentation to anybody every one of the claims i looked at had its own email and documentation and all that landed on Cannon's desk.

Cannon took that all together and went and talked to Meadows, I believe, right at the end of were selected the elector the slate of electors from each party that had won uh submitted their votes on december 14th the january the 6th was a formal uh acceptance of all that stuff but everybody presented that stuff on december 14th so they knew um the end of november they knew a couple of weeks before the Electoral College voted and then again about another about I guess six weeks or so before the January the sixth thing they had those results in what did you think about the stop the steal stuff you mentioned that that you debunked fraud claims are those advancing the stop the steal initiative tell us a little bit about that. Yeah, I mean, so as I looked at everything, I wasn't aware, usually, of where the claims came from.

I was able to piece a lot of it together afterwards. So, you know, from the Sidney Powell, John East eastman perspective i didn't know that the claims that i found were false that they brought forward came from them until uh about a year ago really yeah so uh it's the you know the whole problem with stop the steal and with a lot of so many people believe firmly that the election was stolen but that belief is based upon a set of facts that's at best really really squishy right what i mean by that is uh the facts on which the claims are being made that everybody's grabbing onto and says it was stolen can't possibly ever stand up in court usually for a really basic reason because because that reason is, it's more,

usually it's hearsay evidence. And what I mean by that, hearsay is often defined as he said, she said type stuff. And our courts don't allow that kind of evidence on which to convict somebody because someone can easily be lying about that, right? The court systems want to see fact-based evidence that can be double and triple checked, you know, hard facts. And most of the evidence that people are being presented as evidence that the election was stolen is squishy evidence. It's not the kind of evidence that you could take to court and win. And that to me is really something that I have a problem with because I'm a data guy. I take data to court and my data survives legal scrutiny, right? So if you can't find data that survives legal scrutiny,

I think it's sketchy to start bringing forward data that can't and then using that information to really get people amped up about what happened in our election i do not believe that the election was stolen i believe that the election in 2020 was lost i was very skeptical of it from the very beginning actually you know when i i worked at info wars i had a show there and two days after the election steve pachinik came on and said that there had that that it was a sting that they had blockchain watermark ballots that had somehow come out of the federal government at some central location but the key thing that was obviously uh disprovable was he said two days after the election so we got 20 000 national guard that are out there arresting these people who rigged the election now that obviously was not true that wasn't going to go down that path uh so we had all kinds of stuff but it was so many people

even weeks after that uh when there was absolutely no evidence of any national guard troops or any arrests or whatever they were still pushing that so So I can imagine that somebody saying, yeah, we got pictures of, or I know personally about somebody stuffing a ballot box. That's going to be much more believable than the other stuff that people were fighting about and willing to go to the mat to say, yes, there is some secret war that is going on, maybe in Germany, maybe some places in the United States where people are actually fighting and going to war over this. It really was a strange situation.

One more thing I'd like to talk about before we start talking about how to reform this stuff, and that is the exit polls, which have kind of come in to play again with this Venezuelan election. The State Department has always used Edison Research, which is the exit polling organization here in the United States. And they say that, and they use them in other countries as well. And they say that if the difference between Edison Research's exit polls and the official results are more than five points away from each other, that it looks like it's a rigged election. Now, it's just one particular company, and of course, that company can be rigged as well. We don't know about their integrity, but it is the company that is used for the exit polls

by all of the media organizations in the United States. They typically don't give us, I've never seen them give us a total and say, well, here's what they say the total is, and compare that to what the reported votes were. They'll give you demographic cross-tabulations, you know, how many men or how many women or this or that voted for this candidate. But was there ever any talk about looking at the exit polls? Anything about that? So, I didn't know it at the time, but I learned of this about a year and a half ago uh the trump campaign commissioned their top pollster to conduct exit polls in the 2020 election in the swing states that pollster's name is tony fabrizio uh and just to just to be fully transparent i'm a

two-time candidate for governor uh here in Island. And in my run in 2014 as a Republican, Fabrizio was my pollster as well. So I just like to put that out there because I'm talking about him and I just didn't want to do that without disclosing that. Fabrizio conducted a 30,000 interview exit poll across all the swing states uh and he created an internal campaign document that leaked uh and that document made its way to politico.com so anyone can find it there but what he determined was that one out of six votes voters that they spoke with were disaffected republicans who chose to vote against trump in that 2020 race another one out of six voters were brand new voters motivated to vote against trump because of covid uh so that's that's

a full third of the voters that they uh had identified were strongly against trump for different sets of reasons uh so exit polls are typically take it to the bank type things right they're usually considered to be uh pretty accurate and i've not ever heard of somebody uh manipulating the results of an exit poll uh i don't know much hardly anything at all about what's going on down in venezuela right now other than it's a mess uh so uh you know it's another one of these things right and so that that kind of gets us a lead into some of the things that we do about how to uh how to fix this based on your insights but i think that's very important i think it's very interesting that the trump campaign did its own exit polls and they didn't present that data.

So presumably that data was not favorable to them. Didn't you? Am I mistaken? Did you debate Lindell on this? Mike Lindell? I did. He and I appeared on a YouTube channel about a month ago uh and uh with a host named david packman and uh yeah we had about a 45-minute conversation about uh voter fraud and uh what is there what's not there and even we got into a little bit the things that we need to do to fix things and i know that uh he held a press conference at one point in time and uh steve bannon was there a whole bunch of people and steve bannon was just fed up he said well we were told that he had receipts and he goes he doesn't have any receipts he was really upset about does he have any receipts yet

it's evidence-free right uh that's very interesting it really is sad to see but let's let's talk about what we can do to uh to, to fix the election, um, system, uh, based on what you have seen and, your opinions about it. Yeah. So I think this is the most important thing to talk about. I mean, 2020 is long gone and it's in the rear mirror.

Uh, there's nothing that we can do at this point to alter the course of what's going to happen in 2024. Uh, it's going to be very very similar i believe to what we experienced in 2020 uh it may be almost virtually identical i wouldn't be surprised if the outcome is exactly the same because the basic same uh setup is there that we had uh four years ago uh the way we conduct our elections in this country is the way we've done it for hundreds of years,

and it no longer makes any sense, and it causes us some real problems. And the biggest set of problems that we have is that different states and many times different counties in the same state conduct the same election differently. They have different rules. They have different regulations. They have different hardware. And I'll give you just a simple example of how these differences can actually affect the outcome of a specific vote. What do you think happens if you vote early but then die before election day?

Does your vote count or does your vote not count? I would think that it would count depends on where you live there you go it depends yeah yeah so in michigan it does not count and in 2020 the state of michigan invalidated about 3 500 votes by voters who voted early and then passed away before election day uh in pennsylvania if you vote early then passed away before election day in Pennsylvania if you vote early then pass away before the election your vote does count so some of the votes that people identified as deceased votes actually counted because in Pennsylvania that's not an illegal situation as long as you cast the vote while you're alive, if you happen to then pass away before Election Day in Pennsylvania, the vote still counts. So it becomes you can see how just that one scenario causes a voter that we imagine is in this situation to have a very different experience as a dead voter in Michigan as it does uh opposed to pennsylvania let me ask you this question before we move on

and because uh when you get these these ballots in i mean what what kind of records do you have to look at a vote an early vote by mail ballot uh to to know uh that this person voted that ballot and voted it at that date you know if they're going to count it, if the person is now dead, but they, you know, to know that the person made this vote before they died. How do you audit that? What kind of information do they have in terms of auditability? Do they know the postmark date and the person's name on the ballot? So they have postmarked dates they have names and addresses on the ballot application uh which also goes on to the envelope that your mail ballot gets put into as you mail it back in the trick is getting that information and being able to determine

with certainty whether or not that voter is dead and alive or alive and most people who do these analysis don't aren't able to arrive at an answer that is rock solid for sure yeah uh big problem pennsylvania you know where it's that it's okay if they did it and then died how do you determine that that's that's tough right right well i pointed out to the state of pennsylvania uh through uh lawyers i was doing some work for in october of 2020 two registered voters who were dead clearly deceased uh identified them and because they had registered in the last month uh back in september of 2020 i said these will become very likely fraudulent votes. The state didn't do anything about those voters. They did, in fact, vote by mail as deceased voters. And it was only

after the election that the people behind those votes were contacted, arrested, and they pled guilty to election crimes for casting fraudulent votes. It's really hard. In fact, it's so hard to identify whether or not someone is living or dead. I think that the only reasonable thing to do is to probably allow the votes. As long as you're alive when you cast the vote i think that the vote should count because it's just so hard for states to determine otherwise inside a crazy window of time where they're trying to do a lot of other things you know and again we only were able to do we what we did in terms of identifying deceased registered voters because the trump campaign basically

provided an unlimited pile of money that we were able to spend to do so accurately. I guess that's really the issue, you know, in terms of how do you validate that. And I guess the key issue is that people have to have trust in the election. And so it seems to me like there needs to be different ways that they can have either transparency and have the ballots retained. I know that in Texas, it was kind of a standard procedure, even though it was in the Constitution that a facsimile image of the ballot had to be retained. You had the guy who was in charge of the Board of Elections would send out a statement to all of the counties saying you don't have to retain it. And they would not retain it in a lot of these counties.

And so it made the auditing process really difficult. But I think maybe, you know, a lot of people are looking at let's just go simple. Let's go to hand counted ballots. We know that people can always stuff stuff. But if you got hand counted ballots and you got observers from both sides it seems to me like you need to have something like that where people can have some confidence that um you know the fraud has been kept to a minimum that there's been eyes on this that they have have done that what do you think about that what are your recommendations in terms of paper ballots i know that's a big paper chase but but what would you say about that? Well, I think for sure, when you vote, the vote should be on a paper ballot so that you

have a physical representation of what happened, so that you can go back and analyze it. Any machine that allows you to vote electronically without paper ballot backup, I think is a terrible idea, and we shouldn't be there for sure uh let's use maricopa county arizona as uh sort of a proving ground for whether or not it's reasonable to count by hand all the ballots so maricopa has roughly one and a half million voters that vote in in its elections uh on your typical maricopa county ballot there's anywhere between 20 and 30 different races on that ballot it just depends on the year and where you are in the cycle of different things which means that in your typical election year in maricopa you have to if you're

going to count by hand you have to tally up 20 to 30 million different distinct votes across all the different races that are there. That is a phenomenally large amount of votes. And no human counting effort will ever be anywhere near as accurate as a machine count can be. The problem and the worry about the machines is that they can be hacked that they can uh be programmed maliciously before the election that kind of thing and i look at what the casino industry does and in my background i've done a lot of work in the gaming industry over the years. Many, many, many casino management systems have defensive software built into every one of those slot machines so that they know if the software deviates from what it should be. And I won't get into the technical details of it, but it's something that you can absolutely do.

And it's something that you can absolutely bring forward into the election machine software. We have the ability to know with confidence what software is running on those machines. And we should be using it. And as I said to Mike Lindell is one of the big, big pushers of we need to be counting by hand. We need to be counting by hand. And what I'll say is, first of all, there's just no way that you can count 30 million votes accurately by hand. First of all, it would take forever to do that, right? You would need an army of people conducting the count. And then, you know, human beings make mistakes and that whole thing is just it is it is too big a job i think to do it uh to do it manually and as i said to mike i said mike the problem is you're

talking about squishy reasons to count the mallets by hand but you actually haven't pointed out something that is an actual risk that's happened that justifies making such a big change. So should we harden our machines? A hundred percent. And we should have federal guidelines that all the machines have to adhere to so that we can have some confidence that they have not been hacked and that the software that they're running has been vetted and is working the way it needs to uh and all that kind of thing that's technology that's already in place uh i just don't see how i mean if you or i were to sit down and start tallying votes on a ballot maybe we could tally if we were working really fast 500 votes an hour right maybe i mean you know and now think about 30 getting to 30 million votes 500 votes an hour at a time yeah this tells you how big the number is like the

number is probably 60 000 hours of work to get that done in maricopa uh And I don't think going back to the Stone Age for how we count votes is going to be a workable answer for us in this modern age. Yeah, it's again, you know, when we look at the electronic stuff and I always talk about, and I've shown several times the example going back to the late 1990s early 2000s we have local college professors bring some kids in they say well let's uh take over this machine here and they put a virus on there that tilts everything according to their predetermined ratios and then erases itself and so you know the vulnerability there i guess is is whether or not it's connected to the Internet and whether or not somebody can reprogram it by putting a thumb drive on there and installing some software. How do you guard against that type of thing, that kind of custody of the machine, for example so you know the physical the uh in the same way that slot machines have

tremendous physical security around them in terms of surveillance uh both uh electronic and and people watching uh it's this same thing with with voting machines the the sensitive areas of the voting machine should be in uh on the back of the machine where nobody is allowed. Right. So if you're putting a USB key in the front of the machine and someone can close the curtains and plug something in, I mean, that's, it's, there are, for those who understand machine security and how to make sure that the software that should be in there is in there. It's all, that's all a solvable problem. Uh, it really is. And as part of your auditing, did you have, uh, uh, videotapes of the physical security situation? No, no, we, we were strictly focused on the data.

Okay. They wanted me on the hard data that they were hoping was going to be able to go to court. I didn't get involved in any one specific local issue. And for sure, I didn't get into any hearsay claims of any kind.

There wasn't the time to get into that. You know, look, there are... you hear a lot of people talk about election integrity, and I am a huge proponent of election integrity and making sure that the data for our elections is as clean as it can be. And one of the problems with having the states do their own voter registration, maintaining their voter rolls differently from each other, is you end up with some states that do a really good job at it. And you have some states that do an absolutely terrible job at it. And the terrible side of things, I'm going to offer up two states, New Jersey and New York. In New Jersey in 2020, there were roughly 25,000 voters registered who had a year of birth of 1800. Which, if you do the math, you realize that there's just no way any human being in 2020 had a birth date of 1800. And of those 25 000 registered voters with a birth date of 1800

8 000 cast votes in 2020. now some of your listeners are going to be like holy moly that's voter fraud it's probably not what happens in a lot of different computer systems and this is happening in new jersey system if they don't have a date of birth for a voter, they stick 1800 in there as a placeholder. They didn't have anything else. So 8,000 voters in New Jersey cast votes in 2020 that state election officials don't know when those voters were born. Okay. Now that's a problem all by itself. And it's one that election officials in New jersey still haven't fixed they have really really dirty data right and you see all kinds of different ways that dirty data can impact uh registered voters and ultimately can even impact uh whether people should be voting or not

right i think in new jersey you might find maybe some of those 8,000 voters shouldn't have been voting for some reason, but the state can't identify who those voters are. You have to know someone's date of birth to be able to identify them using data. And New Jersey can't do that. New York has a very similar problem and some worse ones, and I don't want to get too far into it, but there are millions of votes that happened in New York State in 2020 by voters that they cannot identify because those voters don't have a social security number or driver's license on file with election. That's an extraordinary thing. And it's a huge problem for New York election officials because they can't possibly maintain the data in their system without having that information. That's just two

examples. When you move from one state to another, some states are able to track down the movement and cancel the registration for when somebody moves from state to state. A lot of other states cannot. And so we end up with people with duplicate registrations. We end up sometimes with people with four or five duplicated registrations. There's all a manner of stuff like that that's happening. And for me as a technology professional, I can't stand the fact that our elections depend on data that at times can be extraordinarily dirty. And we have the technology and the means to fix this. And I think it's criminal that we don't and of course we got a lot of jurisdictions where they want to give the vote to even non-citizens so i mean

that's like the there's just there's just this whole spectrum of what is out there so uh in your opinion how do we what's the best way to fix this i mean do you have to have some kind of a national standard and some kind of inspectors i mean i think one of the reasons to have some kind of a national standard and some kind of inspectors? I mean, I think one of the reasons we have the kind of system that we've got is because there was an aversion to centralizing things. Because if you centralize things, now you've got one point that you can corrupt or you can infiltrate, and now you've got the entire system. So there's a danger in centralization as well. How would this work out so leaving any ideology out of my answer as a technologist the only sane way to conduct our federal elections is with a federal voter registration database uh if we got

rid of the 50 different implementations of the voter registration that we have right now, in fact, it's way more than 50. Most large states make the responsibility of elections at the county level. And so in many ways, we have as many as 4,000 or 5,000 different election systems that all do things a bit differently from each other uh technologically speaking the right answer and we would eliminate most of the voter integrity issues that we suffer from if we had a federalized voter registry uh i understand with states rights and a whole bunch of either ideological arguments or even the security argument of well you know if you have just one you know what what happens i don't believe that the voting should happen on a federal level with just one system but i do believe that the

voter registration should be done that way so if somebody hacks a voter registration system and by the way how many counties do you know that have high quality data uh employees working for them technologists right uh the lower down we push the conduct of our elections i believe the more likely it is that those uh the the county level is where it's most likely that you can see successful hacking because they just don't have the technological expertise that you need as you would as you move you move your way up the chain to state level technologists and ultimately federal level technologists uh yeah and of course we've also seen we've also seen the cia and the nsa and the fbi and the military hacked as well so from the top to the bottom it is vulnerable so you

know it's a real quite it's a real quandary so you know voter registration in a lot of ways is less uh the the danger of a hack there is lower than the danger of a hack to an actual election system that conducts the process of our election. Right. Right. So I don't believe I believe it would be wrong to have federalized voting. I only talk about the voter registration with an eye towards the cleanest data that we can have. You know, we live in a society and an age where there probably isn't a computer system anywhere that's hardened well enough to prevent someone who's really determined to get at it to get at it. You have to watch it really carefully

and you have to have it really carefully and you have to see what you have to have the surveillance systems in place to know when it's happening and to to stop it before it goes you can put that sort of stuff in front of a system like the if we were to do a federalized voter registration system i think that that system should also have biometrics on it uh you know we use social security numbers as the most sensitive identifier we have, right? If you're working at a job, you have to supply your social security number. It's how you file your taxes, all this stuff. You have to give a social security number to any banks that you want to open up bank accounts with. And the problem is hackers have

every one of our social security numbers, all of them, right? They've been hacked so many times, it's no longer secure. I think we should replace social security numbers with a new identifier. We're the only first world country that doesn't have a national identifier. Well, what happens if you do a biometric and somebody steals your database? Now they've stolen your face. What do you do? I mean, if they steal your passcode or something, you get a new one to go get plastic surgery to order or to vote again. What do you do with that?

To me, that's that's a big issue. have very very strong concerns about um you know creating a centralized uh state where we have to have some kind of a centralized id you know that kind of flows into uh a cbdc type of scenario and other other concerns about a global id uh and so that that gets a lot a lot of people to take the safety off their gun when you start talking about that type of thing no i get it i get it but if your concern is election integrity the biggest threat to integrity is the way we currently conduct the election i mean that's that's just a a simple statement of fact well let me say this you know as unwieldy as it is you know when um they ran elections in iraq what they did was they did it on one day. And, you know, they couldn't tell if these people were legitimate

or if they'd walked across the border, but they could keep them from voting multiple times. And so you would go in and you'd vote on paper, and then you would get this indelible stain on your thumb that's going to be there for the rest of the day so you couldn't vote again. If we go ultra crude like that, I know it's a big hassle to count this stuff. But I mean, if people really wanted a system, they would invest the time in terms of maybe volunteering or something like that.

I know that's idealistic. But I mean, why not go ultra low tech one day and the purple thumb i mean how many how many elections that way do you hear stories about a whole bunch of ballots being stuffed anyway right even even people have ink stained hands that doesn't doesn't handle the physical security of the actual ballot box sitting there uh you know look i i live in a state where it wasn't all that long ago where some elected officials were arrested driving around with a bunch of uh absentee ballots in the trunks of their cars yeah and we saw that going back to the 1960s the reports of people driving around with the voting machines in the back of their car and that type of thing you're always going to have

that i guess the thing for me personally and i've talked about this i said well because what scares me about the computerized voting is that if you're able to hack the actual voting system you know different from the from the id stuff but if you're able to hack the actual voting system that gives you access from a remote area to be able to manipulate things across the country or you can manipulate from the top of the ballot to the bottom of the ballot i mean once you get if you get in there the payoff is so incredibly large that it really is a big honeypot you know for people in terms of the allure i think no uh no differently than casino systems right and in a lot of ways the you know rigging a casino machine to walk out the door with a million dollars in cash, in a lot of ways, is probably a bigger prize than most other things.

And the industry has dealt with that threat. We can deal with the threat of the hacking and the cyber attacks on election systems we really can uh it really comes down to a question of will and money but i don't know how we don't insist that the same protections that go into slot machines aren't already in most of the uh machines that conduct our elections I know some of the machines that conduct our elections do have this in there. They all should have it. And if we have that, I think we can all rest a bit easier about it. Well, that is a good analogy. I guess we'll end on that. I think that there's many analogies that could be drawn between the electoral system and a casino. The house always wins, I think, in both cases. So uh but that is very interesting and i'm sure i

haven't had a chance to read your book i didn't get a copy of it yet because i wanted to get drawn quickly uh but i'm sure it is very interesting i think people will be interested to see uh what you found in the um in 2020 that people are still talking about and and more importantly you know what does that portend for the election that's coming up now? And I guess maybe about 90 days or something like that. And what can we do? Certainly, there's not going to be anything that we can do to fix it between now and then. But it gives us some idea of what we can still expect.

But then we really do need to take, I think one thing everybody agrees, that we need to do something to make the electoral system more trustworthy, that people have confidence that their vote is counted and counted accurately. I think that is of paramount importance. And so it's very, I'm glad to see that you wrote a book about your experience with that. And again, the book is Disproven, My Unbiased Search for Voter Fraud for the Trump Campaign, and the data that shows why he lost and how we can improve our elections.

And by the way, you can find this at KenBlock.com. There's a link there to buy the book and you can get information about it there. Anything else you'd like to tell us about the book before we run out of time? Yeah, I mean, look, the back of the book is the most important part of the book. Fixing our elections is patriotic. It's mission critical. It's the most important thing. Mike Lindell and I disagreed about the outcome of the elections, but we were in sync on the need

to make changes to make things happen better. I've spoken to Republican secretaries of state. I've spoken to Democratic secretaries of state. There is a lot of over agreement, overlapping agreement on some of the things that we should be doing to of our discussions of elections and looking backwards and dealing with whatever happens here in November, to move forward, we need to have an adult conversation about making our elections better and getting to it and taking this moment in time to really improve things. Yeah, I agree. And it's not just that we would like to get the right answers, but I mean, in this time of polarization, if we don't have trustworthy elections i'm very concerned uh that they you know be civil war over it or something like that a lot

of talk about that on both sides and so uh it's it's having something that you trust that you can audit uh that is that is really key so uh again you've got the the second half of your book is about your recommendations for how to do that from somebody who is an expert on auditing it. And you've seen the tricks that can be pulled. And so that is no system is going to be perfect. Any system can be infiltrated and has its own flaws. And so the question is, what do we do to try to minimize that and mitigate those risks? So thank you so much for the work that you do.

And again, you can find this at KenBlock.com and the book is Disproven. Thank you so much, sir. Appreciate it. Thanks, Dave. Thank you. Okay. Before we run out of time, I just want to thank some of the people on here. Rockfin, George, McDonough.

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Well, that's very kind. Thank you so much. And before we run out of time, as I was talking about the UK and saying that the real issue is uh what are they going to do to uh shut down speech and are they going to use this violence as an excuse to ramp up the police and surveillance state and that is exactly what is happening i showed you before the uh before the interview uh going by and coming the police arresting this guy because of what he posted on Facebook. Do we really want to live in a society like that? Of course we don't.

Free speech is, you know, you have the free press, and we don't want people being arrested for what they write about or what their opinions are. But when we talk about free speech, that really is social media. That's where the people have their voice. And if we're going to pretend that there is something called hate crimes, then that is the end of free speech. We can have one or the other, but we cannot have both. A scientist who called a neighbor a Spanish whore was cautioned by police for a hate crime and struck off of a list.

That's also out of the UK. She was someone who worked for a biomedical organization, and she was taken off of what I mean by struck off. They took her off of that list, essentially fired her, lost her job for that. And, you know, this is the type of thing. It was a drunken row between these two people. And she threw that out and she said, I didn't realize that it was illegal to call someone a Spanish whore. Nobody expects a Spanish Inquisition, I guess. But that's what we're going to wind up with. I guess that's a note we can end on today.

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