The David Knight Show - Tue Episode 1,949: Gaza Gambit, Penny Purge, and Digital Dominion!

Episode Date: February 11, 2025

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In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. It's The David Knight Show. As the clock strikes 13, it's Tuesday, the 11th of February, year of our Lord, 2025. Well, today we're going to begin by taking a look at what is going on with Doge. And it is both good and bad news. It is a sweeping change. The question is, what is coming next? And what are the conflicts of interest?

I would like to see this type of thing happen. We always wanted to see something like this. But it comes with some real concerns about conflict of interest. So we're going to talk about that as well as, let's take a look at the other money issues. And that is Trump removing the penny. Is that a small thing? Or is it the first step towards something much larger? I see the removal of the penny setting a very dangerous precedent for removing us from cash altogether.

The same reasons, same thing that we saw with the bump stock. I think the removal of the penny is removal of something that is useless and unimportant in and of itself, but a very important precedent like the bump stock was. We'll be right back. Stay with us. Well, as we've all known, the federal government has been criminal in its neglect and its abuse and fraud. And so now we see, here's a good example. The Doge team going through all of the data, they've basically taken over the computer systems and they can do a real audit. And I said, I was very skeptical that anything would come of it. And I was wrong about that because I've seen these commissions come and go, come and go. But now that everything is computerized,

that means that somebody who comes in with some crack programmers can crack the system and they can get a hold of everything. And so they have been hoisted by their own petard, so to speak, blown up by their own embrace of computer systems. And that's a lesson for all of us. It's how all of the good parts of society by their own petard, so to speak, blown up by their own embrace of computer systems. And that's a lesson for all of us.

It's how all of the good parts of society could go down, just like the bad parts could go down, because everything is computerized. And so they're able to go in and do real audits. And what we're finding out is stuff like this, for example. In one week, FEMA sent $59 million to luxury New York City hotels for illegals. In just one week. One week. And this was in direct denial or disobedience to an executive order from Trump as well. But when you look at what FEMA has been doing, again, from the very beginning of these natural disasters,

the Hurricane Harleen that went through North Carolina with such devastation in the mountains, and we don't have any money. We gave it all for the illegal immigrants who are coming in. They come first. And so for four months, they have done nothing. But they're still doing this same thing. They still haven't changed their priority. And when we look at this, the only relief that has come, and we'll take a look at some of the

relief that has come, has come from the Army Corps of Engineers, which Biden didn't even dispatch for four months. That's how criminal this abuse is. And so $59 million in just one week to luxury hotels in New York City. As Musk said, this is in gross insubordination of the president's executive order. That money is meant for American disaster relief. Instead, it's being spent on high-end hotels for illegals. Nothing for North Carolina, nothing for California. And you have to wonder how much total have they done if they're still doing like 60 million a week. Musk did not specify which luxury New York hotels received FEMA

funding, but he noted that, quote, a clawback demand will be made today to recoup those funds. A December report revealed that New York City politicians spent $220 million in the sweetheart deal with Pakistan to lease the prestigious Roosevelt Hotel in midtown Manhattan for illegal alien housing. New York City paid a foreign government to house illegals. Now, as all this is happening, Trump is also building bridges to new york city mayor eric adams um it's far more important to him to have an ally there than it is uh eric adams was on the take who knows what's going on with that i i would expect if it was a

republican mayor i would have expected that the the Biden administration had been doing it for political reasons and that there wasn't a crime. However, since this is a Democrat mayor, I don't know. I mean, there's certainly there's division within the Democrat parties. It could be that they came after him for for political reasons. But I think that Trump is getting this case dropped against him for political reasons. But I think that Trump is getting this case dropped against him for political reasons. I think he wants an ally in New York over these issues. Places like North Carolina, Maui, get a pittance because FEMA says they don't have the money. But we have to send our military there to do the work.

And that's exactly what is happening. We had, after four days of this brief interview with someone from the Army Corps of Engineers talking about how much debris they'd gotten out of the river. It's great for us to be here and to have a very quick impact. We've only been here since Monday. We've removed 9,000 cubic yards of debris off of this waterway over the course of about a mile and a half. So exciting to be here, excited that we're making a difference. Awesome. God bless all for the work you're doing. And that posting is filled

with people who responded who live in the area. And they said, look at this. All of these, they showed smashed up cars that were on trailers being towed out of there so these things have sat there for four months fema did nothing biden did nothing nothing at all and of course fema will not do anything as i reported from the very beginning handy who is an ems said the call went out and said anybody who who's in AMS, you can get this. It was something like $8,000 a week. And he said, they were just sitting in luxury hotels doing nothing themselves. They go to the areas and they put them in temporary housing. But if you've got temporary housing, as a resident who's lost your home, they kick you out. The local government is doing that as well

so a good job there by the army corps of engineers and give credit to the trump administration for putting this in western north carolina have only begun receiving fema assistance amid the ongoing recovery from hurricane helene i mean this is the bare minimum that you would expect. Now, $59 million in one week for immigrants in New York City. Now, over the course of a year, you remember, I didn't play the clip, but we talked about it a little bit. This woman who calls herself a bishop. Bishop Marianne Buddy. B-U-D-D-E, I guess. I don't know. But she's been a hero to the left because as part of the Trump inauguration, somebody in the Trump administration had her come in to do a benediction

with Trump and his family and Vance's family all sitting there and the expressions on each other's faces. The UK even had a lip reader saying, what are they saying to each other? And they're all making eyes like, what can you believe this? Because she's just lacing into Trump for his immigration policies and for his LGBT policies. This woman who calls herself a bishop, so-called bishop. Episcopal Migration Ministries is what she runs. And she has, and I talked about this at the time.

I said, she's got a long history of protesting the trump administration my question is who in the world was responsible for bringing her in i mean if i was there i would not only fire that person but i fire the person who hired the person who brought her in it's just ridiculous but what we find out the reason she's back in the news is because we see that she got 53 million dollars in taxpayer funds so 59 million dollars to migrants in new york city hotels 53 million dollars to this female bishop who is also supposed to be the husband of one wife that type type of thing. This is the obvious elephant in the room. When these women put themselves in these positions, they have already thrown the Bible out as a guide. But she has Episcopal Migration Ministries, and she got $53 million in 2023. Now, we don't know how much she got in 2024, but when she got $53 million in 2023, that was to resettle 3,600 people.

Now, in 2024, she did almost twice that many, 6,400 people. In 2023, she got $53 million to resettle 3,600 individuals. That's about $15,000 apiece. And then in 2024, it went way up. These new arrivals are immediately eligible for all forms of welfare, Medicaid, cash assistance on the same basis as U.S. citizens. Cloward and Piven, written large. And these are, as I talked about yesterday, the zombie denominations, the zombie Christian denominations, the walking dead, completely dead. They keep their organization going by getting funds from the U.S. government. And when these people come in and get all of the rights to welfare, that's the thing.

Somebody comes in, they should have no right to welfare. You want the Ellis Island experience? No welfare. That's the Ellis Island experience. Those people came for freedom, not for free stuff. And when they come in, they not only get same or superior, and I always say superior. You know, we've seen this with the educational benefits.

For example, you come in as an illegal alien and you can get in-state tuition in any state that you want to go to. American citizens don't get that and many other things like that. But we see that they also come first. They get the head of the list. People in North Carolina, people in California, well, you have to wait. We have migrants that we have to take care of. And these people can bring in friends and relatives. They can sponsor them. It's called chain migration. And that applies for these people as well. Biden expanded it recently.

They're not saying that that has been taken down by Trump. So to get $1, here's how the grift works for these zombie institutions again completely dead spiritually dead disconnected from christ and christianity these churches survive by doing this they get a dollar for every dollar department of health and human services hhs money they have to contribute only 10 cents along with 90 cents worth of used cars furniture and monetized volunteer time look you look at a if you got a um a treasury a a um if you got a um a um an organization that is doing charity to people. And you look at how much they take in and how much they give out. That's how you can tell whether or not they're grifting.

The Episcopal Church also earns a commission for collecting on travel loans made to refugees resettled by EMM. Yes, this is, she has the audacity to lecture anybody about showing the love of Christ. Because, you know, that's what Jesus said. He said, let's get the Romans to pay for everything for everybody, right? No, he didn't say that at all. He said, that's for you to do. They're not doing it. They're taking the money from the federal government,

and they're taking a commission on all of this stuff. Render to Caesar what is due to Caesar. That's not what they're saying. They're saying, Caesar, render this to us, and we'll render to caesar what is due to caesar that's not what they're saying saying caesar render this to us and we'll render to ourselves the u.s taxpayer funds the international organization for migration which loans money for airfare for the refugees flight to america if the refugee pays the interest-free loan back the church not Episcopal migration ministries, the church pockets 25% of the money if the loan is not paid back. No one is the worse off except for the taxpayer. So that's how these zombie so-called Christian churches operate. So you got in a year,

she gets $53 million, probably a lot more than that last year and one week 59 million dollars to migrants to stay in luxury new york city hotels and then this is the thing now the the the maga people are with me on all this stuff but i point out that, you know, $53 million a year for the bishop, $59 million in a week for the migrants, and then $50 million for Trump to go to the Super Bowl. They don't like that. I said, why doesn't Doge look at that? Oh, shut up. How dare you criticize him? You know, we have to have national security here.

He has to have massive bodyguards all around him. I said, well, you know, the bottom line is that no other president decided to spend that money. But the bigger question is, they don't want to talk about it. Why do we have to spend tens of millions of dollars for the president to go somewhere? Why are we so hated? Could it be the, Hans, are we the baddies here could it be the wars the assassinations the coups that we have been doing for decades is that why they hate us uh and and because this is this is the presidents of both parties, right? And because both parties, the presidents, make themselves the public face of the real government.

The CIA, the military industrial complex, that's your real government, folks. You know, you've got the bureaucrats in there that are just robbing everybody blind and stealing money. But the real government is the CIA and the military industrial complex. And when these presidents make themselves the face of all that, then they become the point of anger of everybody worldwide. The cost of flying Air Force One from Florida to New Orleans, all the additional security that was even more than they would typically have at the Super Bowl, extra tight security measures put in place all around the city and so when i mentioned that oh

boy that really hit a nerve with the maga cult oh you i used to like you but you're a bitter old man type of stuff right i said one guy said yeah you're right i'm old maybe by the time you get to my age if you survive if the country survives maybe you'll figure some of this stuff out because i've seen it you don't want to learn anything from somebody who's been there uh seen it and and all the rest but um no they they said um you have a messed up sense of priorities and i said oh really uh what are messed up sense of priorities. And I said, oh, really? What are messed up sense of priorities? Could it be that our priorities are wars, assassinations, and coups?

That's what's messed up about our country? Why do we do that? Why do we do? You want us to be the policemen of the world, don't you? You want us to be an empire, don't you? That's a pretty foolish perspective, quite frankly. So I put this out and I said, yeah, you know, we are stuck between the never Trumpers and the never blame Trumpers. That's right.

Let me. Jokers to the right. Here I am. Stuck in the middle with you. Yeah. Yes, I'm stuck in the middle with you. And as the stuck in the middle, we're stuck in the middle with you. Yeah. Yes, I'm stuck in the middle with you. And as the stuck in the middle, we're stuck in the middle class. They've cut off the rungs of the ladder above us, and they're taxing us to death.

We're stuck in the middle. Stuck in the middle class right here. So, yeah, I also reminded them that it was Trump. It was Dave Chappelle who said you know the thing about trump is he'll come out of this meeting with all the elites and he'll tell you everything that's that they're doing that's evil and he'll go right back inside and do it i thought well the perfect example of that was when he told everybody in 2016 he said we were lied into the iraq war with lies about mass destruction. And he takes a woman who tortured prisoners, who did the cover-up, and who sold the lies,

Gina Haspel, and he makes her the head of the CIA. Yeah, Dave Chappelle was right. Well, the Washington Post is trying to make a case for not cutting any money. And so the Washington Post says, farmers are on the hook for millions after Trump freezes U.S. Department of Agriculture funds. So I'm looking at this and I'm saying, so what is this?

Is this like, you know, the FDR types of price supports and things like that? It's like, no, it's not actually. They are missing millions of dollars of funding that they were promised by the usda now think about this when the government gives you money and they make you dependent like a pet for a handout and that's the whole point i'm not criticizing farmers and i understand and understand that this is a trick that the government runs all the time.

But you can be pacified and be completely dependent on the federal government. That's the point of throwing out all this money. And when we talk about how the lockdown and all the rest of that stuff operated, it was because this money was being thrown out there. They ran a two-step process. And it happened very quickly. We could see it over a short period of time. Trump says, point a finger at somebody and say they got COVID, $13,000.

Put them on a ventilator, $39,000. And now you're $52,000. A ventilator only costs $50,000. And now you can charge them for the use of the ventilator until you kill them. Because they killed about 90% of the people they put on the ventilators. And not only that, but everything that you do, the ventilator, everything else will give you a 20% bonus. Now that ran from the time that he did the emergency order that released the money. So that ran from March around to when Biden comes in and then he puts the mandates on people, right?

The following September. So for a year and a half, they get accustomed to this massive amount of windfall profits that were there. And then Biden comes in and says, if you don't inject yourselves, inject your staff, I'm going to pull that money away from you. That's how this operates. And so whether the farmers realize it or not, that's what's being done to them. They're being made dependent. Now, like the doctors and hospitals, what are they going to tell the farms and the farmers that they have to do coming up? Well, I wonder if it's going to be going to vaccinate all of your animals.

That seems to be where they're headed. That's at least one of the things. So Trump ordered the USDA to freeze funds for several programs designated by Biden's signature clean energy and health care law, the 2022 so-called Inflation Reduction Act. What a lie that was. But here's the thing. It's not like some kind of farm price support system

that's been around since FDR. This is about building green infrastructure. The freeze paused some funding for the department's Environmental Quality Incentives Program, which helps farmers address national resource concerns, and the Rural Energy for America Program, which helps farmers address national resource concerns and the role energy for America program, which provides financial assistance for farmers to improve their infrastructure. This is garbage folks. This is not buying food. It's buying garbage.

And the key thing is it's buying farmers, farmers who signed contracts with the USDA under those programs paid upfront to build fencing, to install renewable energy systems with guarantees that the federal government would issue grants. And here's an example. It's a woman who has a Maryland flower farm. And she said she signed a contract with the USDA to cover half of a $72,900 solar panel installation. And now she's been told that her reimbursement payment has been rejected because of Trump's executive orders.

And I'm not sympathetic to this. These are things that are not essential. What does a USDA administration have to do with paying people to put solar panels up? It doesn't have anything to do with putting paying people to put solar panels up something to do with food nothing at all how is that even in their uh in their authority you got the usda running around killing chickens by the tens of millions every month to create egg shortages disruption of our food supply and they're going to tell these farmers you know if we don't kill your chickens or whatever you're going to have to take the vaccine or we're going to wind up killing your chickens you take the vaccine and maybe you know we won't come around with this pcr nonsense and claim that you've got an infected bird and kill

every animal on your farm that's the game that they're running. Meanwhile, they're going around giving people tens of thousands of dollars for solar panels. Do you see that the USDA is fully on board with the World Economic Forum, UN agenda to destroy our food supply and to destroy our energy and to put in all of this green stuff? Shut it down. Why are they waiting to shut down the USDA? It's just amazing to me that this continues to go on. I don't see it on their list of agencies that they need to shut down. I know it's a long list, but it'd be my top priority because it's coming for our food.

And the people in the uk understand this because what has happened there that the conservative party in the uk was doing the same stuff folks they were doing the same stuff as the labor party it didn't matter during covid and all the rest of but when it comes to the green stuff the conservative party was doing the same thing now that the labor party is in they've accelerated and so people are starting to understand what the situation is but it's the same thing that we see here people are going to get a false sense of everything is okay that's what this this rush of the beginning is and i don't know how much of this is real and how much of it is pr when we look at the deportations for example that was a big part of the of the trump program and a big part of his pr campaign look at what

we're doing we got this tough talking guy homan out there of course they kind of undermine that a little bit with their uh the barbies going around you had nancy mace and you had Christine Ohm going around with their bulletproof vests and earrings and heavy lipstick and everything else. But that kind of clues you in that it's theater. But, you know, Holman talks really tough about this stuff. And yet the deportation rates are less than they were under Obama. The deportation rates are half of what they were under Biden. How is that? How is that?

I understand it takes a while to get some things going. But if you listen to their PR and if you believe their PR, oh, this is exploding. They're throwing everybody out, that type of stuff. Well, that's absolutely not true. It's half of what Biden was doing. So I don't know how much of this is PR and how much of it's half of what biden was doing so i don't know how much of this is pr and how much of it's going to be real you know we're we're in a situation where it's like the fog of war you know both sides are telling you different stories and eventually we're

going to be able to sort out what's real and what isn't and we're seeing that a lot of this deportation stuff right now is hype hype so i don't know how much of this doge stuff is really hype or if it's going to be real we'll see what happens and a big part of this is going to come down to the real fight is not even going to be the auditing process and the hacking of the computers real fight is going to be whether or not they are going to take on the judiciary. It's judicial supremacy that is going to be the determination of whether or not this stuff is real. All the rest of this stuff is a lot of public relations at this point. But in the UK, they understand what's going on because Keir Starmer and the Labour Party

have escalated and sped this up. Whereas in America, everybody's going to sleep because Trump's in place here's what the UK farmers are saying about what we can expect from the farming groups today okay well we're looking at probably having over a thousand maybe 1200 tractors uh in Whitehall we've got over 120 here today uh many of them have traveled up from Exmoor down from Shropshire um all over the country from the north and the south some of them actually drove their tractors up last night from Dorset they started arriving on Thursday now as you've seen in the this yard at the moment we have over 40 tractors in the rest of the farm

we have about another 80 plus and I have all the low loaders parked in another part of the farm at about 11 o'clock we're going to set off down the a4 into whitehall to have our rally protest as you said today but also it's for charity so we're raising money for the royal agricultural benevolent so anybody could actually give us some money for that because that's what it's all about but we've got to go there we've got to explain it's as they say for rachel from accounts and also uh prime minister who's the prime minister for we don't know who but doesn't seem to be for british farming british farming is suffering so much all the time and it needs to be saved if we don't have any farmers we don't have any food we're going to have to import things if they think importing it is a good way for ticking boxes of what we don't do here, it's not going to happen. And I think they realise now that the farmers

are a force to reckon with. Douglas, the government say that their commitment to farming is steadfast and that Steve Reid, the Environment Secretary, understands the concerns, but they're going to continue with this policy regardless because it's necessary for the public finances guessing you don't buy that what's your reaction to hearing steve reed and the government say these things steve reed said that farmers have to do more with less we've always done more with less they say we've got to diversify so if we diversify we're not actually growing food that's right they're not growing farms now feeding the. And they don't seem to want us to grow food. When they put the inheritance tax at a million, well, we can have tractors and combine harvesters and crops for a million. It's got to go to at least 10, if not 15 million. And when they say they need it for the finances, how come allegedly they inherited a black hole of 22 million? And then a person who we are told is our prime minister goes around the world giving away all of the taxpayers money it's not his it's not the government's money to give

away it's the taxpayers money and we make food if you don't have food you don't have a future you don't need a car you don't need a mobile phone you don't need to watch television unless you're watching gb news of course but you do need to eat two or three times a day douglas yeah well there you go right and look there it's they want to eliminate all farms and they're doing it going to do it through the inheritance tax but they got a lot of other regulations that they can do as he pointed out they're going to take all of the tractors and all the farm equipment roll that in oh well is that worth a million pounds okay well now we're going to take it away from you and that's why they took away the inheritance tax because it's going to shut down all small businesses but especially the farms and they

won't don't want people to have any food we're going to buy it from another country well no they're doing this in every country it's not just the british government it's a global agenda and that's why i say the usda is 100 on with this global agenda of shutting down the farms. We'll give you money for other things, let you diversify into other things, but just don't grow food or we're going to shut you down. Johnny Gospels said they shut down a third of the Nettleton farms in the 2030 sustainability plan. Insanity. And it is insanity. It is insanity, but they know exactly what they're

doing it's evil it's not crazy it's evil it's crazy how evil it is um while niagara says they give migrants superior benefits because they want us to hate them because they want a civil war that's right that's why they want to bring in massive numbers of people in an unsustainable situation it's only going to get worse when people start losing their jobs to robotics and ai and so everybody's going to be fighting over this they're bringing them they want us to fight each other they want us to fight foreigners that they bring in because they don't want us organizing against them and this is what is happening with the trump administration. At the same time,

they bring in as adjutants, migrants who don't like us, don't like our culture, and don't want to adapt, and many of them dangerous criminals. At the same time they do that, they pacify us with all these stories about how we're winning with Trump and with Musk and the rest of this stuff. It's a two-part program. We're All Dead says they don't want you to grow food because according to their projections, there won't be people to feed. Well, that's self-fulfilling prophecy. So meanwhile, we've got, as Trump is calling USAID a tremendous fraud,

and it is, ABC News points out that his wife and daughter, Melania and Ivanka, in the first administration were traveling all over the world selling USAID and promoting its work. Well, this is not something that we, this hypocrisy from the Trump family is something that we've seen on many different issues. I've talked about it with LGBT. While they're out there courting the Christian vote, they're selling rainbow merchandise for Trump.

While he is saying, we've got to end this tranny nonsense, he was one of the first people. He and people like Mike Flynn were selling the tranny stuff over a decade ago. I played the clip for you. Now look, Trump wants tr wants trainees in his beauty contest. Was it Miss Universe or something that he had? And Melania is getting awards from them on a regular basis. And yet, we're supposed to believe that he's against it.

So he was for it before he was against it. He was for USAID before he was against it. We see this all along. Early adopters, strong supporters, but now, now they reinvent themselves to tell the MAGA crowd what they want to hear. We care, and we want to show the world that we care. And I've partnered, and I'm working with USAID, said Melania, in 2018, during a trip to Egypt. She says, and that's what I want to share, that we care. She feels your pain. That's so much like the Clintons, aren't they?

On her four-country jaunt around Africa in 2018, Melania Trump offered praise for what she described as successful USAID programs as she observed them up close. I wonder if she's going around singing the praises of the CIA organization. She didn't notice anything unusual. This is somebody, you know, she was in Egypt. I'm sure she was in Cairo. And this guy shows you what the USAID compound looks like in Cairo. In case you've got any questions whatsoever. This is the CIA.

Just take a look at this. Okay, so he's driving down there. Approaching the USAID office in Cairo. You'll notice it's fortified. Yeah. It's part of what's called the Smart Village. Smart Village. You have tech companies here.

Look at that. You also have embassies, but among them is USAID. Yeah, how about that? I wonder why, if we're a charitable organization, and in Malawi, she handed out bags and school supplies and soccer balls. If we're handing out school supplies and soccer balls and giving people food, why do they need to set up an armed fortress for their headquarters there in Cairo? Why do you think that is? Well, because it's all a lie.

The Trumps are lying to you. Musk is lying to you. The USAID is lying to you. They've got classes in that, as Mike Pompeo reminded us. He went to the CIA. And we lie, we cheat, we steal. We start wars, we do assassinations, we do coups, and we have classes on all of that stuff.

How in the world could Melania not see this and not think, let's see, we're doing all this good work of handing out soccer balls to people, and yet they hate us. Why do they hate us for our soccer balls? I don't understand. For decades, USAID has been unaccountable to taxpayers as it funnels massive sums of money to the ridiculous and in many cases malicious pet projects of entrenched bureaucrats with next to no oversight so the white house now in a memo well thanks for

the memo i've also got a memory of what these people have been doing. And it is the CIA writ large. Doge has now also scrapped the Fauci Museum exhibit as part of $182 million in cuts. They had in this Fauci Museum, they were going to set up a fauci museum or have done so whatever they'd allocated this money in the nih the national institutes of health they wanted to set up a museum for anthony fauci 168 000 well they went cheap i guess i don't know you would think somebody who ran the country for a couple of years they could do a little bit better than that i would imagine that we'd have like the fauci library like most ex-presidents get i guess the question would be do they have the covid virus isolated at the fauci library uh did they isolate it and put it on display i don't think so do they have any viruses isolated and put on display

uh it's a million dollars you said thousand uh well no let's see his his was 168 000 and that was part of 182 million but you know so that's like one thousandth of the cuts that they made but they want to focus that because of the hatred for Fauci. So as I said, it's very clever PR that is there. Clever PR. Do you think maybe at the Fauci Museum, do they have the framed award that he was given? You know, medal or whatever it was. I said, you know, everybody wanted to argue with me.

I said Trump gave Fauci a medal on his last day in office for running operation warp speed along with the other traders who did that to us i said it wasn't a medal it wasn't a medal okay so it was a commendation it was an award was it a certificate suitable for framing suitable for the fauci museum what exactly was it i guess we will never know since they've canceled the museum there. We'll not be able to see his special Operation Warp Speed award. Will they have the pedestal that Trump put him on? Will they have the interim president seal that I'm assuming he had, right? Remember when Steve Jobs was kicked out by that bean counter Scully out of Apple,

and then they begged him to come back because the company was rapidly circling the drain. And so he said, all right, I'll come back. I'll just be an interim CEO. And so he put a sign on his door that said, I, CEO, lowercase I, I, CEO. And then he created the iPhone, the iPad, the iMac. But Fauci is part of the five I's, the people who watch you all the time

and who share information in five English-speaking countries. So who knows what's going to happen? Maybe theia will do one for him i don't know how many different organizations he worked for because as i said before if you're 100 federal employee your salary is supposed to be capped at the level of the vice president which is a little over 200 000 but he got more than the president more than the 400 000 dollar salary of the president which is really kind of strange. I mean, we do have these bureaucrats running the TVA, as I pointed out last week. It's kind of a

quasi, you know, it's federal, but it's not the same type of thing with the CDC. Is it civilian? Is it military? Is it federal? Is it private? Because they sell vaccines and make a lot of money on the vaccines what is it who knows it just exists in this twilight zone of graft and corruption and criminality uh so messenger uh on messenger exile on twitter on x says now is a great time to kill the h1b yeah hey Musk, have you noticed that? You want to do something about that? He's not going to do anything about that, no. As a matter of fact, Zero Hedge had a graph up over the weekend, said, over the last reporting

period, which I think was a quarter, there were a million jobs created. Okay, fine. But when you break it down, who got the jobs? Well, a million jobs went to foreigners who were here. Yeah, H-1B visas and stuff like that. No jobs to people who are American citizens. Basically zero. Zero.

Zero jobs for Americans. That's your net zero. There you go. And a Zero jobs for Americans. That's your net zero. There you go. And a million jobs for foreigners. There are over one and a half million people here on the H-1B pipeline visas. And another three and a half million H-1Bs who are needlessly given citizenship to replace Americans. They're the ones getting jobs. We're not we've got five million americans with

stem cells stem stem cells stem skills uh that science technology engineering math uh cooling their heels under or unemployed because of h1b and because people like musk and rama swami want it that way they're not american they have no loyalty to you it's a it's an outrage that these people are in the position that they're in rama slimy touted to win the the governorship in ohio which is so i guess so he can throw out more americans to replace him with the good people who are not American. Congress and Trump's rhino oligarchs are going to open it up in March 2025 to 125,000 new H-1Bs. Probably another 350,000 H-1B renewals, 30,000 H-1B to OPT conversions, and best of all, almost 200,000 new H-1B dependent H-4s. Now, Zero Hedge will point out that the jobs are going to foreigners and not to Native Americans, but they won't criticize Trump and they won't criticize Musk.

And you know why? They don't want people to stop reading their publication. Well, I tell you, the hatred. You speak against their God. If only Christians guarded the reputation in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord, as much as these MAGA people are zealous to defend Trump, it'd be a different country, wouldn't it? Well, like DACA, it's a lot of phony posturing.

Because he says the OPT and the H-4 programs are Obama presidential executive orders. And we're supposed to believe that Trump isn't tough enough to remove these obama executive orders well that's what he did with daca remember now they're talking about and musk is very angry and rightfully so because you've had this single judge that was cherry-picked because he's leftist and he had a hearing without the department of Justice officials being there. It's called ex parte. In other words, you're not allowed to participate in this. You're ex parte, right?

And so he has this hearing, and he says, No, you can't do any of this stuff. We're going to block you from doing this. And so Musk says, Impeach him. Trump never said that. Trump didn't want to take the heat for removing DACA. And so he used the excuse of the judiciary when they told him, you can't remove the executive order from Obama. And by the way, it wasn't even Obama's executive order.

It was his Homeland Security Secretary's order. But Trump was not allowed to do it. And he just kind of said, oh, OK, good. I'm done. They won't let me do it. Sorry, folks. I'd like to keep the promise, but, you know, I can't really do it and he just kind of said oh okay good i'm done they won't let me do it sorry folks i'd like to keep the promise but you know i can't really do it so um you know we look at all the border crossing and all the the uh hoopla about that the one thing that you have seen is that

the border crossings have dropped the deportations have not the deportations have dropped also deportations are half of what they were under Biden. But nobody is coming across the border. And remember, the same thing happened in 2017 as well. People in other countries heard the tough talk from Trump. And so there was a pause for a few months. And then it came back with a vengeance. They came back with caravans right in his face. And so we're going to take a break.

When we come back, we're going to talk about what's going on with this judicial thing, trying to block the auditing that is happening there with Doge. JimZ7, thank you for the tip. He says, kill two birds with one stone and convert Gitmo to a Fauci exhibit complete with a living Fauci. I really endorse that uh johnny gospel seed said they'll make it illegal to grow food or have animals kami for me fornia has already started it bird flu you know and drought that's exactly the way it's going i mean when you look at the way they shut down these farms in the netherlands and of course the people they're organized and they kicked out mark ruta who was deeply connected with the world economic forum

deeply connected with bill gates as a matter of fact as people in his family who had a relationship with bill gates and this food delivery system called picnic so they wanted to shut down the farm so you buy the food from gates and the labs and they're going to also deliver it to you and netherlands one of the most productive probably per acre more productive than any other country on earth and so they you know used mark ruda to shut him down well these people organized and they threw him out then where did he go well they put him in his head of nato because you know he's somebody who wants to kill people so of course you're going to put him in there so well it's a war against us it's a weapon against us geesebusters uh good to see

you there how does a guy get a museum and a pardon that's right what was it that he did wrong that he needs a pardon for but we'll build a museum for him as well and he got both the museum and the pardon from biden now the medal he got from trump they all love him he's been there since 1986 he's been there through reagan and bushes and clintons and obamas they all love him uh we're going to take a quick break and we will be right back. You're listening to The David Knight Show. All right. Well, we've got a couple of comments here as well. Naburo2029 says, The best way to train domesticated wild animals is to feed it the best food, then gain its loyalty.

That's right. They're hand-feeding people. And, you know, the welfare system, for the longest time, has done that. It's been well-documented by Thomas Sowell and many others who looked, as a matter of fact, one of the people who documented it, Charles Murray, who wrote Losing Ground in the 1980s, he documented how the welfare system had eviscerated the middle-class black families and cities and stuff because of the welfare that's what it's intended to do but now charles murray is now advocating the same thing for all of us with universal basic income

the hand feeding and uval harari these other people the world economic forum understand that completely elon musk heavily funded an unknown person who ran for president because his central thing was universal basic income. Bloomberg said, we've got to figure out how we're going to placate the people whose jobs we're taking. The smart ones of us are taking everybody's jobs. So we've got to figure out how we pacify them with universal basic income so they don't come after us with guillotines he said guillotines so i like goy are americans rotting out ratting out their neighbors for having chickens yet yeah it'll um uh it'll um it'll happen pretty soon won't it and uh of course you may not need your neighbor they might figure out

where you are before the cock crows three times. The roosters will not shut up. Musk has called for the impeachment of the Obama-appointed judge who blocked Doge access at the Treasury. And, again, as I said before, Trump never called for any of these judges to be impeached for blocking what he was doing to get rid of the previous administration's executive orders. Musk has called for the impeachment of the Obama appointed judge who barred Doge and the Treasury Secretary from accessing payment systems at the U.S. Treasury. So this is the judge who said that um um has put a limit on it friday night democrats went judge shopping uh writes zero hedge to ask that musk team be stopped from accessing treasury systems knowing that the only available judge would be Paul Inglemayer,

who held an ex parte hearing without Department of Justice lawyers. Inglemayer did not cite any case law and did not cite any precedent for his ruling, which many have criticized for vast overreach. The order prohibits special government employees, along with those from outside the Treasury Department and the Treasury Secretary himself from accessing the system. See, this is a classic case of judicial overreach, of judicial supremacy. This is something that is entirely within the purview of the executive branch. These people, you know, they complain, well, Musk, who elected Musk?

Well, Trump got elected and Trump appointed Musk. That's the way this works. And the judge needs to understand that as well. But he's even getting rid of the blocking the treasury secretary from looking at the treasury department's records. How in the world can you do that? How politicized is that? On Saturday, Musk said a corrupt judge protecting corruption.

He needs to be impeached now. Will the Republicans in Congress do that? Do they have the votes to do that? I don't remember. I think it's a simple majority. Maybe you can impeach them in the House. Then you have the trial to do that i don't remember was it um i think it's a simple majority maybe you know you can impeach them in the house then you have the trial and the senate i don't know if it's a simple majority if they've got to have a bigger majority i don't i don't recall in an earlier post musk wrote it's time in response to a suggestion that activist judges should be

impeached engel mayor's ruling came in response to a lawsuit by 19 Democrat state attorneys general who panicked over Doge investigating waste, fraud, and abuse within the U.S. government. As one person wrote on X, Jeff Carlson said, you guys went judge shopping for a lunatic left-wing judge who issued an ex parte ruling and you did it all to prevent Democrat corruption from being revealed. He says the court's firm assessment is that for reasons stated by the states, they will face irreparable harm in the absence of injunctive relief well that's absolutely true when we i'm going to take a quick break and when we come back we're

going to talk about trump removing the penny is that something that should be done you got a lot of people who are cheering him for doing that saying i hate these things they're all over the place i got friends who see a penny they won't even pick it up. And that was 20 years ago. So are these things the bane of our existence? Or is this the first step towards taking us to a cashless society? We're going to talk about that when we come back. ¶¶ © transcriptF-WATCH TV 2021 Liberty. It's your move. And now, The David Knight Show. Every time it rains, it rains pennies from heaven.

Don't you know each cloud contains pennies from heaven. You will find your fortunes falling all over the town. Be sure that your umbrella is upside down. Well, you know, when Sinatra did that, you actually could buy things with pennies. You could buy things with pennies even when we had our stores. We had some penny bubble gum and stuff. But why is it that it's so useless now?

Is it because of inflation or something? All these people seem to ignore that and say, yeah, good. Let's get rid of this cash stuff. Well, I always said that Trump made no sense. And now I've been proven right. It's going to make no sense. And he's going to leave us penniless. So you better make sure your umbrella is upside down, or at least your financial system is upside down. Well,

you got to catch all that stuff from the cloud, I guess. But no, that's where our money is going to be. Our money is going to be in the cloud. Instead of pennies, we're going to have digital credits in the cloud. So make sure your umbrella or your financial system is upside down so you can get those little pennies from heaven. Look, we can talk about these different reforms that are there, but they're moving very fast towards the digital money that the people who bought this president want. That's what's happening with this they want to make us all

penniless cashless digital slaves using surveillance money that's the bottom line and so um you know well when when you look at where this stuff is headed get excited yeah we're gonna get rid of this uh fauci museum and all the rest of this stuff. Fine. Fine. But is that just window dressing for the big World Economic Forum, UN global governance by controlling our finances and getting rid of cash? I'm very concerned about this because when you look at the arguments being made to shut all this stuff down, it's saying well you know to make physical money it costs money you know it cost us a couple of cents that's what trump said he said it cost us two cents to make a penny and that doesn't make any sense so i'm not going to make any sense and then doge

comes out says it cost three cents to make a penny well um maybe there's some other uh issues here but people in power will always make two mistakes rather than admit to one or to change the fundamental issues i wrote on twitter this also got the ire of the uh mago worshipers trump's quote pragmatic unquote argument for ending the penny is simply a trial balloon for the technocrat billionaires want to take us into de facto cbdc the label cbdc doesn't mean a thing i know i know trump has said we're not going to have cbdc going to have something better going to have something that won't have a name right it'll just happen to you and you won't even know that it's happening. You don't

even know how much of it has already been put in place, do you? Many of us do. I'm sure that those of you who listen to the program do. No, CBDC and the name doesn't matter. What matters is transactional financial privacy, as Catherine Austin Fitz always points out. Digital money is a surveillance trap, but it's just fine if Trump does it, isn't it? Right? See, that's the issue here. This is not about cost. This is not about efficiency. It is about inflation, and it is about control through currency. And so Trump has directed the Treasury Secretary, Scott Besson, to stop producing new pennies. You know, maybe we ought to. I had a friend send me a Bible verse this morning, Proverbs 11.1. The Lord detests dishonest scales, but accurate weights find favor with him.

I guess he must hate the Federal Reserve as much as we do, right? There you go. There's proof. God hates the Federal Reserve and the Washington bureaucracy. Trump announced that he had instructed Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent to have the Treasury Department stop making new pennies, explaining that it costs more than two cents to make them. Then, as I said, Doge says, no, it's three cents. But it's not about that at all.

He said, let's rip the waste out of our great nation's budget, says Trump, even if it's a penny at a time. Well, you're talking about virtue signaling. But what about about physical money? You see, if you are going to argue that it costs too much to make the pennies, you could easily make the statement that, well, it costs too much to print up paper currency because we've got to do all these counterfeit measures to it. Make it pretty expensive, I'm sure.

So let's just get rid of physical money all together in the name of efficiency so the price of manufacturing the penny has grown over the past several years why is that because it's not even copper is it's got a thin veneer of copper you know everybody in washington likes thin veneers to describe to disguise what is truly at its core what is at the core of the penny is zinc but even zinc is getting too expensive because of inflation and um it's actually you know the deflation of the value of the dollar so i guess we could say it's not worth a plug nickel. Then I use any of the real stuff on any of these coins anymore. They said the price per metric ton of zinc is now double what it was in 2016.

See, if you start to look at real stuff, you start to realize how worthless the U.S. dollar is. See, the problem is, it's not that zinc and copper and gold are all going up. It's that the dollar is going down. It's the financial theory of relativity. But if the argument is going to be the cost of making this stuff, then all physical currency is gone. It's just that simple. So John Stossel put out a little bit of his report that he put out a few years ago. He says, President Trump has ordered a stop to penny production.

Good. I covered the stupidity, he says, of government losing money in order to make pennies years ago here's a the short clip that he put up some are paid to make pennies most americans no longer want pennies but government still makes them at a cost of three cents each three cents to make one cent losing taxpayers a hundred million dollars a year that's government yeah that's government except you know in the constitution what i thought was interesting is that the constitution says that congress has the power to coin money and to regulate its value stated in article 1 section eight clause five but of

course you know uh coining money they were they were talking really about gold and silver weren't they not about zinc with a thin veneer of copper on it or something like that this is where we are right now and of course the executive order that gifk put out saying he's going to issue silver certificates now that got him in a lot of trouble with the um federal reserve didn't it a lot of people think that that executive order was part of what he was assassinated for i don't know we'll find out when they release the jfk papers won't we i'm sure it'll all be there written down as to who did it and why they did it all the mysteries will be solved on it well the reality is is that congress should have some say in this so you

know why is trump doing this uh but let's talk a little bit about the consumer financial protection board uh this is the frankenstein child of liz warren and the former director of this monster, and it was only created in 2011, but he says, hey, if we get rid of this, we're going to go back to the wild, wild west. Isn't that funny how people always refer to freedom as the wild, wild west? Makes you kind of nostalgic for the wild, wild west, doesn't it? I'm ready. Let's go back to the wild, wild west doesn't it i'm ready let's go back to the wild wild west you know for 200 years we didn't have a consumer financial protection board somehow in the wild wild west we prospered and became the richest nation on earth we didn't need these bureaucrats and we

didn't need uh liz warren and one of the worst things about the Consumer Financial Protection Board, and this is going to be part of the legal fight to try to save it, is that Liz Warren and the people who went to war against us gave it its funding from the Federal Reserve to make it independent of Congress. Well, that's a constitutional issue right there. We've already had Samuel Alito weigh in on the fact that he thought that that was unconstitutional. So we're going to find out, although we already know that it's unconstitutional. But here's Liz Warren having a hissy fit about her Frankenstein child, the Consumer Financial Protection Board. If you have a bank account or a credit card or a mortgage or a student loan, this is code red. I am ringing the alarm bell. Elon Musk and the guy who wrote Project 2025,

Russ Vogt, are trying to kill the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. If they succeed, CEOs and Wall Street will once again be free to trick, trap, and cheat you. Oh, she's the defender of the little guy agency working to shut down scams and fraud on payment apps like uh zelle and paypal and cash app it's the agency that's in when the big bank trips up and repossesses your car it's the agency that's working to cut hey crazy fees that banks are paying. Did you talk to PayPal when they kicked me out? Buried down in the fine print, and then you got to pay for them. Already, this little agency has

forced giant banks and corporations to give back more than $21 billion directly to families they cheated. And that includes hundreds of millions of dollars back for veterans who got cheated by predatory lenders so why are these two guys trying to gut the cfpb not rocket science trump campaigned on helping working people but now that he's in charge this is the payoff to the rich guys who invested in his campaign and who want to cheat families and not have anybody around to stop them. Yeah, it's another scam. After the 2000s. Yeah, she's going to protect you.

You believe that? You believe that? Yeah, they've paidaked in because her organization that she puts out there is protecting the little guy and the consumer against the big banks. It allowed the big banks to drive the medium and small-sized banks out of business by about $150 a year for about six years after this thing was put in because of the massive regulations they could not compete in other loans it basically drove them out of entire categories of loans and allowed the large banks to were able to comply with these onerous this onerous paperwork burden that they had on it but you know liz Liz, has always been the champion

of the little person. And she has championed us against the big pharmaceutical companies as we saw in the hearings with RFK Jr. Do you believe anything this woman says? Warren says her great-great-great grandmother is Cherokee. But genealogists have yet to confirm that.

Warren referenced a photo of her grandfather on her mantle as part of the family lore. My Aunt Bea has walked by that picture at least a thousand times, remarked that her father, my papa, had high cheekbones like all of the Indians do because that's how she saw it. And she said, and your mother got those same great cheekbones, and I didn't. She thought this was the bad deal she had gotten.

Yeah, yeah, she's an Indian, too, you know. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Like the Seminole, Navajo, Kickapoo Like those Indians, I'm an Indian too Just like rising moon, falling pants, running nose Like those Indians, I'm an Indian too Running nose, falling pants, lying Liz. Big chief son of a bear. And I'm an Indian too. I'm an Indian too. I'm an Indian too.

I'm an Indian too. Yeah, and she's a protector of the little guy against big banks and big pharma. Absolutely. Check her website. I don't take contributions from big pharma executives. I don't take any corporate PAC money. And you and your allies already know that. Yeah, Open Secret knows that she does. Liar Liz.

She's an Indian, and she doesn't take money from big pharmaceutical companies, and she's there to defend the little guy against the big banks. It's all exactly the opposite of what she had to say. Well, this guy, Richard Cordray, who first was handed the reins of this institution again, she set it up to be funded by the Federal Reserve so that it was independent of Congress. He said, we'd be back to the wild, wild west for financial services that affect families all over the country in terms of what their terms would be on their credit cards or mortgages and other products. There would be no oversight of that well um yeah they uh drove the small banks

out of business with those kinds of demands project 2025's playbook calls for abolishing the cfpb calling it unconstitutional highly politicized damaging and utterly unaccountable federal agency well i guess we could apply those uh that description to pretty much all of them, couldn't we? So yeah, get rid of it. Cordray said Musk's targeting of the CFPB could be a conflict of interest, considering that X has plans to provide financial services on the X platform. Musk has shared his ambitions to turn his social media company into an everything app, including a digital wallet,

a digital payment system, a partnership with Visa, and something that he's going to have to replace electronic fund transfers that he calls X money, and all that's going to happen later this year. He says it's a direct conflict of interest, and it is totally unethical for him to be making these decisions. And look, I agree with that. You know, CFPB is unaccountable, unconstitutional, fraudulent, damaging, and needs to be shut down.

But at the same time, there is a conflict of interest with Musk and with this digital money. And I think that it's not disconnected from the shutting down of the penny. They do not want to have physical money. And yet everybody is cheering the shutdown of the penny. And not too many people, except the people on the left, are looking at this conflict of interest. That's a real thing. That is a real thing. I'm glad that they're able to audit this stuff. I'm glad that they're able to shut down some of this stuff. Let's hope that that goes through and it's not blocked.

I really do hope that they're able to shut down stuff or at least gut the government if they can't kill these institutions but at the same time you have to ask yourself what is their goal they're not doing this out of altruism musk did not buy twitter because he wanted to say free speech he bought twitter because he wanted to have an everything app he bought twitter because his plans from the very beginning even before he merged with PayPal, were to have exactly what he's trying to build right now. And so he's always been angling for this. And that's why he bought Twitter. Again, he didn't spend $43 or $44 or $45 billion as a philanthropic move to save free speech

for us as Babylon B and so many conservatives have portrayed it. That's an absolute lie. And they don't understand what his motives are. And so you need to understand what's going on with this. And I think it folds in together with this penny thing, a penny for your thought. Let me know what you think of this stuff. But the team's initial entry into CFPB Thursday had been accompanied by an assignment agreement. And again, I'm going to read this because I like the way that this is being done.

This is what the audits should have been, going back to the Grace Commission or any of these other things. But, of course, they could not get to everything if it wasn't all computerized the way that it is now and so the fact that it's computerized the fact that we are where we are right now the fact that they have ai they can summarize stuff and scrape it this is all is making this possible and so i'm glad to see this happening and this is the way it is happening i would talk to goat tree yesterday said i'm glad they went in. They got the back doors. They shut off the access to these other people. They can do reveals to show what is happening with their political enemies.

The question, though, is what is going to come out of it, and how are they going to help themselves? Because he does have an interest in this. He does have an interest in this. And it's just amazing that people pretend that he doesn't, that he is some altruistic, patriotic American who's just doing this out of the goodness of his heart. No, he bought Twitter to make money. And he's making a lot of money out of this thing with the way he's putting it together. He bought it to make it a WeChat for Americans.

So they came into the the building they explained the authority for this operation emanated from january the 20th executive order also said the scope of the doge team's efforts would include quote work on software modernization initiatives unquote said the use of software engineering to quote champion the use of modern technology development and management approaches unquote the memorandum of understanding which bore the seal of the executive office of the president, says that CFPB leadership will see to it that DOGE will, quote, have full and prompt access to unclassified agency records, software systems, and IT systems. Initially, CFPB officials were told that a DOGE team needed just read-only access

to their human resources, procurement, and finance systems. By the next day, by Friday evening, according to an email sent by one of the people there that was seen by Bloomberg News, they'd instructed CFPB to give Doge administration access, a much broader form of permissioning. A few hours later, CFPB's X account was deleted, and the homepage of the agency's website was partially dismantled. Visitors to the website now see a 404 page not found error. Good. Good. Change it.

This should have a 405. Agency not found. I'd love to see that all over the place. These people are very competent. And the question is going to be, what are they going to do with this competency? And that concerns me. The Doge team were given senior advisor titles at the agency, worked from a conference room in the basement of the headquarters. The union attempted to greet them at the door, but the doge team was standoffish and didn't talk to anyone so what so what according to multiple people familiar with the matter the

doge employees largely stayed in the basement one was sporting was spotted emerging to pick up chipotle order for lunch in the lobby i I mean, watching them like a hawk. All these bureaucrats have been feeding at the gravy train and looking at this. And these guys are in the basement. What are they doing? Oh, look, he's getting a sandwich now. It's called the Washington Post. By Saturday afternoon, according to five people familiar with the matter,

the Doge team's administrative access had expanded, giving users the ability to choose which of the agency's internal systems they can explore. They've completely taken it over. And so the question is, I'm glad to see this happening. But the ancient question about government and whoever has the control of government is, who watches the watchers? And we could also add, what are the motivations for these watchers? And he's got publicly declared motivations. Now, all of these tech billionaires, years ago, you had Zuckerberg put out a white paper for a global currency that he called Libra.

And there was one sentence buried in the middle of it, said, this will serve if you give me permission to do this to the governments that he sent It said, this will serve, if you give me permission to do this, to the governments that he sent it out to. He says, if you give me permission to do this, this will serve as a global ID. It is a massive control system. And it's going to make him the richest man in the world. It's going to make him even richer. But at the same time, I have no love of the CFPB. I'm glad to see this thing shut down, but you have to be concerned about the fast track that we are on into digital slavery.

That is a real concern, and the conflicts of interest are a real concern as well. Jason Barker, good to see you. of the storm uh twitter and rock vent uh says they can figure out who has chickens by analyzing their spending that's part of going digital that's right yeah years ago in the war on drugs you'd have these dea agents hang around gardening stores and they would um look at people they would go in and they would tell we need to see your records of who bought this and who bought that if you bought some grow lights to be able to grow stuff indoors oh well you're probably secretly growing marijuana plants and you'd get busted with a SWAT

team or something like that even if it was legitimate this is what they'll do the hang out at the um the rural farm feed stores and stuff like that just watch people take their license plates down it'd be real simple for them to do it um of course you could also feed your animals z-bugs you know instead of eating z-bugs from uh klaus you can feed z-bugs to z-chick chickens uh wild agra i think it's been more than a decade since we here in canada got rid of the penny and we just round to the nickel now i believe we'll be rounding to the dollars because of inflation yeah that's right uh right over here when i lived in the chicago area i used to use pennies for tolls just to get rid of them now it's a it's digitized by using a

pass that is charged to your account and when that was first put in in the netherlands people revolted against it they said um and they they said it's a privacy violation i've told the story before you know they they love to keep records on people the government did and they didn't have any malice in any of it. But they had so much information on so many people, they had three-by-five cards that were stacked in drawers. And when the Nazis came in real quick, they tried to burn them. And they were trying to set fire to a log. And so they didn't burn, and the Nazis got them.

And they were able to get all that information, round up the people they didn't like politically, ethnically, you name it. That's what this is always used for. When we look at geospatial intelligence and anticipatory intelligence and all the rest of this stuff, it's always been about identifying people by their politics, by their religion and other things like that and figuring out who they are through their friends and, you know, doing hop skips and jumps through all that alien poop evolution. If they didn't waste so much ink with satanic symbols on the dollar, it would be much cheaper. That's right. Yeah. That's a lot of that in there.

Isn't there? Well, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. So So So So So So So So So So

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Let's take a look at what is going on in Gaza, because when Trump floated this in the meeting that he had with Netanyahu, there was immediately they tried to walk it back to the White House. And you had the press secretary very articulate he said no no no what he meant to say was um temporary not not permanent temporary and no this isn't really what you think it is well over the weekend and on his trip to the super bowl on the plane as well as an interview with brett bear uh he doubled and tripled down on this. He says he's very serious about all of this. I'm committed to buying and owning Gaza. As far as us rebuilding it, we may give it to other states in the Middle East to build sections of it. We are committed to owning it, taking it.

We'll make it into a very good site for future development. I'm committed to buying and owning Gaza. As far as us rebuilding it, we may give it to other states in the Middle East to build sections of it. Other people may do it through our auspices. But we're committed to owning it, taking it, and making sure that Hamas doesn't move back.

There's nothing to move back into. The place is a demolition site. It'll be, the remainder will be demolished. Everything's demolished. I mean, you can't live in those buildings right now. They're very unsafe. I wonder how that happened. It just got demolished somehow.

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how that happened. Funny how that happened. It just got demolished. Whistler says, I wonder what other states he's thinking about giving it to yeah well i've got an idea about that actually what's i want to tell you in a minute here but you know he's getting a lot of pushback from u.s allies in europe and the middle east turkey is pushing back on it i don't know anybody that really likes the idea even his own white house doesn't like the oh netanyahu likes it yeah netanyahu I don't know anybody that really likes the idea. Even his own White House doesn't like the idea. Oh, Netanyahu likes it.

Yeah, Netanyahu. That's the only one that really matters, right? He said, think of it as a big real estate site. And the U.S. is going to own it and will slowly develop it, he says. We'll build beautiful communities for the 1.9 million people. We'll build beautiful communities, safe communities.

Could be five, six, could be be two but we'll build safe communities a little bit away from where they are where all of this danger is in the meantime I hate you from home this think of it as a real estate development for the future it would be a beautiful piece of land with the Palestinians right money's turned no they wouldn't because they're going to have much better housing, much better. In other words, I'm talking about building a permanent place for them because if they have to return now, it will be years before you could ever. It's not habitable.

It will be years before it could happen. I'm talking about starting to build, and I think I could make a deal with Jordan. I think I could make a deal with Egypt. We give them billions and billions of dollars a year. Oh, yeah, bribe them. Bribe them with your money. As Brett Baer says, so would they have a right to return? No, of course they wouldn't, because they'd have a better place somewhere.

So that's how that works. You've got a better place somewhere. You don't have a right to return. Your human rights are taken away if you've got a better place somewhere. I wonder how much of this stuff he would do to put us into his freedom cities. Make this whole thing into a big freedom city. Make it look like the USAID complex in Cairo, for example. That's wonderful. You know, just hand out the soccer balls and things.

He says there's nothing to move back into. The place is a demolition site. The remainder will be demolished. Everything demolished, he points out. How's that happening? I don't know. I mean, was it a hurricane? A fire?

What happened? Trump appeared to be confident that he'd be able to bring Gaza's neighbors, Egypt and Jordan, on board with his plan, even though both governments have strenuously objected to his by Gaza proposal, Jordan's King Abdullah. Second is scheduled to meet with Trump in Washington on Tuesday today. So let the bribery begin. Trump's got unlimited amounts of money. You think this guy can be bought?

Yeah. He's going to bribe him with your money, unlimited amounts of money that think this guy can be bought yeah he's going to bribe him with your money unlimited amounts of money that you will pay back but doge isn't going to be a fly on the wall for that meeting in private the jordanian government is reportedly terrified that its huge existing population of nearly six million palestinians will riot if trump's by gaza plan ends their long-standing but unrealistic dream of carving an independent state out of israel so it's not just the one and a half million palestinians but they've already got six million palestinians in jordan and if they get angry about this saying well that's it it it. It's over. As Gerald Sunti says, when you lose everything,

you lose it, right? The Jordanians are also said to be terrified that millions more Palestinians will be resettled in their territory if Gaza is emptied, according to Trump's vision. But hey, look, we bought the Shah of Iran. We can buy anybody, right? All these guys have to realize is that they've got a private jet and a golden parachute to get out of town. Such an influx of refugees could easily make the Palestinians a strong majority in Jordan. Well, you know, that's no problem because we can just we just use the United States as a dumping ground. Right. Look at that Gulf of America thing he's got next to him. the United States as a dumping ground, right? Would you accept Palestinian refugees? Look at that Gulf of America thing he's got next to him.

I'd have to look. I think it's a very far distance for them to travel. But I'd have to look at individual cases. But I do think that coming into the United States, we've taken a lot of people. But coming into the United States, it's a long way for them to travel. They're far away from their families

and their friends and everything else. I think they'd be very happy to the United States. It's a long way for them to travel. They're far away from their families and their friends and everything else. I think they'd be very happy staying in the general area with a place that was safe, where they could be safe and lead a good life. They don't want to go back to Gaza. As I said, I've said it a lot, they only go back because they have no alternative.

They don't want to go back to Gaza. So we'll see. We hope that we'll be helped by Egypt. We hope that we'll be helped by Jordan. We hope that we'll be helped by other countries. We hope that some of the, like Saudi Arabia and others, can spend some money on it. They have tremendous amounts of money. They'll spend some money on making people comfortable and safe. Yeah, maybe they'll spend some money with Jared, too.

He's doing this conference in the plane on his way to the Super Bowl where they're spending $50 million to make sure that he can go for half of the game or whatever it was that he stayed there. And he's got this cardboard sign with Gulf of America written or Gulf of Mexico. You say, what a joke he is. What a joke. Okay, so let's talk about Egypt. Let's talk about Egypt.

As for Egypt, its foreign ministry said on Sunday that the president, El Sisi, anyway, will host an emergency summit of the Arab League in Cairo. Maybe they could do it at the USAID complex. Oh, wait. Maybe they don't have the money for refreshments. I don't know. To discuss new and dangerous developments in the Palestinian cause. The Egyptian foreign ministry said last week that relocating the Palestinians out of Gaza, even temporarily.

But no, Trump is talking permanently. They can't go back they can't go back we'll just demolish them if they do that would be quote a blatant and flagrant violation of international law and an injustice and violation of the legitimate rights the pal Palestinian people, they said. Well, you know, by hook or by crook, Trump is going to get what he wants. Just go back and remember the, I've got a clip here from the 2016 presidential election early on when Jeb Bush was still in. And listen to this back and forth between Trump and Jeb about casinos in Florida. One of the reasons Mr. Trump is a frontrunner, Republican voters say, is because they like the fact that he is not bought and paid for by wealthy donors. Mr. Trump has repeatedly said that the $100 million you've raised for your campaign

makes you a puppet for your donors. What's that make Trump $250 million from just a month? No, absolutely not. People are supporting me because I have a proven record of conservative leadership. Where I cut taxes $19 billion over eight years. We shrunk the state government workforce. We created a climate that led the nation in job growth seven out of eight years. We were one of two states to go to AAA bond rating.

People know that we need principle-centered leadership, a disruptor to go to Washington, D.C. The one guy that had some special interests that I know of that tried to get me to change my views on something that was generous and gave me money was Donald Trump. He won a casino gambling in Florida. I didn't want it. Yes, you did. Totally.

You wanted it and you didn't get it because I was opposed to casino gambling before, during, and after. And that's not, I'm not going to be bought by anybody. I promise if I wanted it, I would have got it. No way, during, and after. And that's not, I'm not going to be bought by anything. I promise, if I wanted it, I would have gotten it. No way, Ben. Believe me. No, I know my people.

Is there anything else you want to say about this? No, I just will tell you that, you know, Jeb made the statement. I'm not only referring to him. A lot of money was raised by a lot of different people that are standing up here. And the donors, the special interestsists have very strong power over these people i'm spending all of my money i'm not spending i'm not getting any i turned down hun i turned down so much i could have right now from special interests and donors i could have doubled and tripled what he's got yeah just from musk i've turned down last week five million dollars from somebody. So I will tell you, I understand the game. I've been on the other side all of my life and they have a lot of control over our politicians.

And I don't say that favorably. And I'm not sure if there's another system. But I say this. I am not accepting any money from anybody. Nobody has control of me other than the people of this country. I'm going to do the right thing. You got, according to what you said on one of the talk shows, you got Hillary Clinton to go to your wedding. That's true.

Because you gave her money. Maybe it works for Hillary Clinton. It doesn't work for anybody on this stage. I was a businessman. I got along with Clinton. I got along with everybody. That was my job, to get along with people. But the simple fact is— Excuse me. One second. No. I didn't want to— The simple fact with everybody. That was my job, to get along with people. But the simple fact is...

Excuse me. One second. No. The simple fact is... He can get along... I paid her to be there. That's the famous quote. I paid her to be there.

Well, you know, he can get along with El Sisi and Abdullah and all these other people, as well as the Adelsons and Netanyahu. He can get along with everybody because, you know, it's all just about money. Let's make a deal. And how much taxpayer money can we give you with all this stuff? And so he's got big plans. Big plans. Here's the Trump Casino Gaza.

I know a lot about hotels. I own some of the finest casinos in the world. I know how to show people a good time. That's why the Trump Gaza Strip is going to be the crown jewel of the Trump properties. The Riviera of the Middle East. It's a real beauty. All my idea, of course. Hey, Ahmad, maybe we close

these windows for now until the view is a little less Mogadishu. Why gamble with your lives when you can gamble for fun? We have a world-class buffet. A total hit with some of the biggest stars. Work out in the state of the art Arafat No More Gym. Here's some of the top singers of all time.

Then play a round of golf by the ocean. There are way more than 18 holes. So come on down to the Trump Gaza Strip. Why wait for 72 virgins in paradise when you can get one night with a pro on sheets with a high thread count? And don't worry about the Palestinian people. Why do you think I took over Greenland? And some might even stay. Free, free glass of wine. Maybe. And I can accrue Dalek Al-Hassan Al-Hassan, you say it, Neuberger. Men, Anna. Yeah, Mr. Neuberger. Who? Me?

Yeah, Mr. Neuberger there. That's really funny. The Arafat no more gem. Way more than 18 holes in Gaza, that's for sure. Yeah, he can get anything he wants. He knows how to bribe people and to give them your money. You know, when I look at that and he says, maybe we close the windows until it looks a little less Mogadishu because it's just massive destruction out the windows of this building that's out there all by itself. When we go back in 2016, when he was running, I put up a video that really got the ire of Alex because he was cheering Trump at the time,

and it was straight out of the movie Up. I even wondered, I said, did they get this idea from Trump? Because when they did Back to the Future, the people who did it said, yeah, we patterned Biff after Donald Trump. Well, this story was straight out of Up, where the guy is a widower

and he doesn't want to move. He's got his house there and they're building this development and he's the last house standing and he doesn't want to give it up. And so they're going to condemn it and knock it down and all the rest of the stuff. Well, that was what was happening with Trump

at his Atlantic City casino. And there was a widow. She didn't want to sell her home, and he went round and round and round with her. Finally, he went to the local government and got them to condemn and take her home. And then after it was gone, his business went bankrupt. As a matter of fact, here's his imploding casino business there. This is one of his many casinos that went bankrupt. a matter of fact you know here's this imploding casino business there this is one of his many casinos that went bankrupt look at that i mean just like 9-11 going straight down actually um a little bit a little bit of a twist there you know not quite

as clean a job as 9-11 but you know kind of same idea and so uh just just remember that uh when trump is going to bring these people in he's going to do the same thing to our country that he's done to his casinos, in my opinion. He says the ceasefire deal, he said this just yesterday. He said, let's cancel this ceasefire deal if Hamas doesn't release all the hostages by Saturday. He said that by high noon on Saturday, he's given them an ultimatum. And he said, I don't think we're going to get all the hostages because I think a lot of them are dead, but let's kill more people and finish the demolition for him to build his casinos or whatever he wants to do, whatever deal he wants to do. And so he said, if they're not here all hell is going to break out he said cancel it all bets are

off that's right roll up the roulette wheel uh we're no more bets not taking any more bets today trump says there is no right of return for palestinians under the gaza plan yeah i remember the white house press secretary was walking that back no no no he meant no. He meant temporary. No, no. He meant permanent. He came back right away with that. And now he said it again over the weekend. Netanyahu praised Trump's proposal as revolutionary and creative. You know, when he says all the people that he's talked to love it. I think all the people that he talked to were the Netanyahu administration.

Trump says that he'll consider allowing Gaza refugees in the U.S. on a case-by-case basis, as I played that clip for you earlier. We're back to using the USA as a dumping ground for Israel's problems. Trump said he'll look into individual cases to allow Palestinian refugees to enter America. Because, look, this is all about Israel first. Maybe we could give them H-1B visas and maybe Musk could hire them give them a green card if they've got any degree at all you know they could get a junior college degree in basket weaving and he you know you get your green card

right there remember Trump said that when he was running even Trump said on the campaign trail that he would ban refugee settlement or resettlement terror-infested areas like the Gaza Strip. That's how he referred to it. Bloomberg reported on September 2024, quote, Trump says he'll reinstate the famous travel ban and will ban refugees from Gaza. He said, I'll ban refugee resettlement from terror-infested areas like the Gaza Strip and we will seal our border and bring back the travel ban.

That was the only time that he sealed the border was for COVID. But he said that at an event right beside billionaire donor Miriam Adelson, who owns him lock, stock, and barrel. Yeah, he talked about how Jeb Bush is on 100 million dollars he's gotten 100 million dollars well she gave him 100 million dollars by herself you know i must 250 to 300 whatever the number is we don't know and there was a lot more money besides that he's owned by these people that's exactly what he was saying everybody was like oh look trump doesn't need the money he's independently wealthy he's not going to be beholden to anybody that's the way he sold it to people in 2016 but now he's completely owned he should wear all of the different sponsors logos like a race

car driver nascar driver remember the famous travel ban he said we didn't take people from certain areas of the world and we're not going to take them from the infested country yeah these people are less than human aren't they they're vermin just eradicate them as far as us rebuilding it we may give it to other states in the middle east to build sections of it and this whistler is what i think he's going to do i think this is part of the um part of the bribe hey how would you like to have some beachfront property? And you can have a share in whatever is built there and all the rest of this stuff. Personally, you can have a share of it. The Egyptian and Jordanian rulers there.

Again, he repeats it. I'm committed to buying and owning Gaza. Forget about what the White House press secretary said. Forget about the Constitution either. And forget about any action from Congress. They're not going to do anything about this. Forget about what the White House press secretary said. Forget about the Constitution either. And forget about any action from Congress. They're not going to do anything about this. Erdogan in Turkey, also in NATO, says Trump's Gaza plan is futile.

He says the proposal put forward by the new American administration regarding Gaza with pressure from the Zionist lobby has nothing worth considering or discussing, he said. He described the idea as, quote, completely futile. He said, no one has the power to remove the people of Gaza from their eternal homeland that has been around for thousands of years. Gaza, the West Bank, East Jerusalem belong to the Palestinians, he said. Saudi Arabia's foreign minister strongly rejected the proposal arguing that palestinians are the rightful owners of their land not intruders as he said or immigrants who can be expelled at the will of the israeli occupation well dg8 says david gaza is 18 christian or higher that's right are they going to send the Christians to Jordan or Egypt for more persecution? Nobody cares about the Christians, right?

Especially Trump. Especially Trump. They don't care about the persecution of Christians in India by the political party that's allied with Tulsi Gabbard. The political party, she's going to be put in as director of national intelligence. And already they've been assassinating their enemies, their religious enemies in other countries like the Sikhs. But yeah, they don't care about that, especially the Christians.

Where is the voice of the Christians of Gaza? Notice that Christian persecution is ignored. It's ignored, especially by people like Mike Huckabee. He doesn't care about Christians at all. Quite frankly, I think a lot of these people who put this, because of their eschatology, because of their theology, they have not only lost any concern about Christians. They don't really care about Christ. They have made an idol out of the political state of Israel, and they don't care about

Christ. He says, David Miriam Adelson and Jared Kushner have been eyeing this for decades. Yeah, Miriam's $100 billion investments are paying off. Our tax dollars to tear it down and get it ready for development. Yeah. Matthew Ronson, why doesn't Trump do this with Detroit? Yeah. Well, unfortunately, he may.

He may wind up doing some freedom cities. That's what he's got his, I don't know, yeah, geesebusters. Build it right over the dead bodies. That's right. Maybe they're just pulling those bulldozers that Rudy Giuliani used to make a quick cover up of 9-11 and just do it real fast. He's taking over the waterfront property. He said, I mark it sold.

Swamp lover. Why is it that our country's job to build communities in gaza that's not and why isn't anybody concerned about trump doing this you think people would be concerned as we talk about conflict of interests you know uh that's the big issue isn't it with trump with musk all the rest of them jason barker by Gaza. Who gets the money from the purchase? Well, that's like what I said about Greenland. You know, we're going to get Greenland. It's got all these riches and everything.

Well, who gets all that money? Well, we're going to take a break, and let's see. Karen Carpenter says, Disney Gaza with the Tower of Babel and the Third Temple rides. That's good. That's good. Yeah, if they don't turn the United Kingdom into an amusement park as well after they bankrupted it. We're going to take a quick break.

When we come back, we're going to talk about some more money. We're going to talk about gold and what is happening with gold and tariffs and the rest of this when we return. So we will be right back. so uh You're listening to The David Knight Show. Yeah, we'll see what can Trump rename the area. As Whistler said, maybe you can call it the Gaza of Israel instead of the Gulf of America or whatever. Maybe they could just call the whole area Trump land or something. I don't know.

But let's look at what is happening with gold and silver, Bitcoin, other financial things, as well as Trump is shutting down the penny. We've got gold and silver skyrocketing because of new tariffs that began yesterday. And because people are looking at this and saying, well, you know, that the tariffs didn't last very long with Canada and Mexico. They're on 30-day probation, though. And these tariffs look like they are part of his longer-term plan. So these were imposed yesterday. 25% tariff on steel and aluminum. Caroline Leavitt said that the new tariffs, the White House spokesperson, the new tariffs would come on top of existing duties on steel and aluminum. Any steel coming into the U.S. is going to have 25% tariff, she said. Or he said that on Air Force One on his way to the Super Bowl.

Gold and silver set fresh records on skyrocketing prices and demand trump's initial forays and tariffs are over quickly with both canada and mexico but this one is different this one is more about protectionism and revenue generation see this is the problem when i talk to these people that are in the never-blame Trumpers, the people who are in the delusional cloud that they live in, they don't want to talk about the fact that Trump has added an entirely new revenue service. Now we've got the internal and external revenue service. And this is my problem with it. I said for the longest time, and I'm really

serious, I think that a tariff, a government that is funded by tariffs, and you know how many times I've quoted Thomas Jefferson on that. No internal taxes at all from the federal government, but only external taxes. And that's the way the government was always funded, except for the brief interlude where Abraham Lincoln, that other idol of American culture, instituted an income tax along with a draft, along with martial law and all these other things that, you know, Trump hasn't done the draft yet, but he did the medical martial law. And now he's giving us another revenue service. And this is always the issue, as I've said over and over again. We can talk about all the different ways that we could have a better and more equitable, fair, more private tax system. We could have national sales tax. We could have flat taxes if we kept the income tax. All these different things. Remember Herman Cain with his 9-9-9 thing? There's a lot of different things that we could do, but everybody would always say,

you know what, we're going to wind up keeping the system that we've got and adding some new taxes. Well, that's exactly what Trump is doing, and nobody cares, because guess what? It's Trump. And there's like some magic reality distortion field around him that nobody wants to criticize him. Nobody wants to pay attention to what he's doing. And so it really is about revenue generation.

It was always his intention not to get rid of the income tax, but to add a brand new tax to it. That's his point. Can you imagine if a Democrat were to do that? Oh, he's tax and spend. Well, that's right. Trump actually is a Democrat, isn't he? He's a New York Democrat.

Trump told reporters that he would soon announce, quote, reciprocal tariffs on February the 11th or the 12th, today or tomorrow. By the way, happy birthday to Ryan's mom on February 11th. He just told us that. Ryan, for the love of the road. Anyway, February 11th or 12th, meaning that the U.S. could impose duties on products from countries that have placed tariffs on U.S. goods.

So if you're going to retaliate, he's going to retaliate again. It's called a trade war, an escalating trade war. This is as foolish and will be as destructive as Biden's sanctions. Did not accomplish what he wanted to accomplish. Both of these guys are weaponizing the financial system of America. It's like going out and taking one of his bejeweled golden candelabra off of his grand piano or something

and start beating people with it. Hey, man, you're going to break your candelabra. That's what they're going to do to our financial system. Gold prices have been projected to break $3,000 per ounce this year. Well, actually, if you remember when it was doing one all-time high after the other in the fall, and I had Tony Arter been on Wise Wolf Gold, and we were talking about it, and you had one analyst after the other. We're saying, I think it's going to break $3,000 in the first quarter.

And then everything changed towards Trump, and as Trump gets there and gets elected, everybody, oh, no, you know, it's not going to, let's put all our money into cryptocurrency and Bitcoin because he's going to roll out the red carpet for all the crypto stuff and he wants to have a Bitcoin reserve and everything else. Well, now, yesterday, it hit 2920, 2920, because eventually the reality distortion field around Trump and the bubble that he's created, people are going to realize what the true reality is, that nothing has changed. We still have this massive debt, and now he's going to add a trade war to it. He doesn't have any way to affect inflation, and he doesn't care about inflation either. He wanted to remove the debt

ceiling for two years, just like the Democrats said, well, we don't care what the deficit is at all. Unless it's Republicans, unless it's a tax cut, then we care a great deal. We can't have any tax cuts. But other than that, they have their modern monetary theory. They don't care what the deficit is. So again, we're back to this and it looks like we could very well make that $3,000 in the first quarter. I mean, we've still got another two months to go before it gets up there. So it goes over $2,900 as China is also involved in this. It's not just Trump and his tariffs. It's also China resuming purchases by the central bank, the Chinese central bank, as well as the Chinese government pushing insurance companies to hold gold.

Oh, maybe all states should have thought about that. Hot on the heels of the People's Bank of China's recent resumption of official gold purchases after a six-month pause amid ongoing economic turmoil domestically and trade war threats geopolitically beijing has launched a pilot program that allows insurers to buy gold for the first time and it could free up billions of dollars of investment in the middle in the metal adding further impetus to the record-setting rally that hit a new high of 29.20 yesterday, 10 insurance firms in China, two of China's biggest, will be able to invest as much as 1% of their assets in bullion. That would translate to a potential 200 billion yuan, or about $ billion dollars worth of funds so uh this is you want to talk about reserve that's what they're doing now for their insurance companies

they said insurance companies lack options for mid and long-term assets with stable yields the policy tweak makes gold the first commodity that Chinese insurers have been explicitly permitted to invest in. China has restricted insurance funds from taking positions and assets without stable cash returns, as they said. And it limits the amount that they can put into bonds and into stocks. So now the Chinese government, the central bank, is resuming gold purchases. And they've been buying a lot, but they hadn't bought any for six months. And now they're pushing insurance companies to invest in this. All signs point to potential for another explosive gold rally driven by Chinese demand,

much like what unfolded last spring. The central bank's renewed gold purchases alongside new insurance gold purchasing pilot program reinforce the broader shift toward gold as the preferred asset. If these factors align as expected, the next phase of this bull market could be even more dramatic than what we saw happen in 2024. And so Zero Hedge headline says the gold brothers are winning three thousand dollar surges are incoming they said and when we look at what is happening to metal prices i mean it's not just gold and silver but it's all these other metals as well like copper for example you know the penny thanks to uh rather traders in the u.. are paying much higher prices for copper, aluminum, steel than their European counterparts. As they rush to buy the metals ahead of Trump's tariffs.

See, he's an agent of chaos. He creates chaos in the stock market. He creates chaos in the commodity markets. He's going to create chaos in Gaza. The looming tariffs have created an unusually wide transatlantic price gap with a premium for benchmark New York commodity exchange copper futures widening to more than $800 per ton over the London price. So people are going to arbitrage that and make a lot of money they can buy it a lot cheaper in london and sell it in new york assuming that they can

get the metal because this has been a problem with both silver and gold i don't know if it's that way with copper yet uh it is this this is the highest differential that has been seen since at least early 2020. The commodity exchange copper on Monday was up 2% at just over $10,000 a ton. The high U.S. premiums reflect a distorted market, said an analyst, reflecting fears about a, quote, starvation of supply rather than the more usual reason of increased demand. It's not supply and demand. It's Trump messing with our supply again, throwing a monkey wrench into our supply chains again.

Who would have thought that he would do it? Again. And again. And again. Same stuff. Didn't see that coming, did we? Yeah, right. After his previous U-turns on tariffs against Canada and Mexico, analysts say many traders are waiting for more clarity, with some avoiding taking positions until the policies become clear. Who knows what he's going to do?

So we have dictators like Trump or like the Federal Reserve, right? What's the Federal Reserve going to do? Is he going to raise or lower interest rates? What's he going to do in terms of printing money? Is he going to do quantitative easing? These people are moving markets, and everybody waits for whatever they're going to say. It hangs on every word. This is the power that they love.

The uncertainty creates skittishness. He is an agent of chaos. China imposes retaliatory tariffs on $14 billion worth of U.S. goods. And as a result of some of this, and they've also shut down supplies of a lot of metals that they have, if not, you know, that they have a controlling supply of, not just a rare earth, but a lot of other things. Shares of tungsten, of a tungsten mining company here in the United States erupt. Why? Well, because China has choked off supply. And so everybody rushes to buy shares of this tungsten mining company's stocks. Problem is, is that this is going to create havoc throughout the

supply chain. Even if people pay exorbitant prices for it, there still isn't going to be enough of it. Beijing has imposed restrictions on key minerals such as tungsten, tellurium, bismuth, molybdenum, indium, along with certain metallic compounds derived from those. Bloomberg reporter spoke with chief executive officer of North America's Almonte Industries. His customer base, he says, is in a state of disbelief after Beijing's export controls on the metal used in electronics, defense systems, and machinery. He said, it's the warning shot because we cannot exist without this. Our economy, our manufacturing, our defense,

everything is so dependent on it and yet Russia, China, and North Korea have about 90% of the output. Huh. Well, it's not really smart to be throwing our weight around with this kind of stuff, is it?

With a trade war, then? Shares of Almonte in the U.S. have surged 40% in recent days. The company describes itself as, quote, the largest tungsten mining company in the world outside of China. The question is, how much will China tighten the screw to be heard? I think the news is bad, but I think it's going to get worse, he said. Beijing's willingness to restrict exports of critical minerals to the U.S. became evident in late 2024 when it banned the export of gallium, germanium, and antimony. And so they can wreak havoc on our supply chains, but it's ultimately Trump who is kicking this stuff off. The EU is also breaking silence about Trump's tariffs and threatening a full-blown trade war.

How is this in our advantage to have a trade war with the EU, with China, with everybody else. While his primary focus has been real estate in Gaza and how he can take this over and perform for his masters, Adelson and Netanyahu. And then let's take a look at what is happening with the paperwork. You know, Tony Arterman and I have talked about this many times. The disconnect between these ETFs, the paper gold, the paper silver, between the disconnect between the reality

of what is there. And so, he said, what many don't realize is that we're heading into what could be the most significant silver bull market in history. One that could make the 1970s look like a mere preview. This is from Kevin Bambrough, and he said he worked at a company called Sprott from 2002 to 2013.

He said it would have accumulated a significant position in silver in the 2005-2007 position. He said these weren't small positions. We're talking about substantial tonnage that was supposedly safely stored and readily available. But what unfolded next exposed a troubling reality about the paper silver market. And I believe it led to the huge run in silver that followed it, as ultimately it ran to its all-time high in nominal terms. When we decided to take delivery, what should have been a routine five-day process turned into a nine-month odyssey of excuses and misdirection. We strategically contracted to store our silver in Canadian's government mint refinery and storage facility, ironically the same facility that had been emptied when Canada foolishly sold off all its gold and silver reserves. Did you know that? I didn't know that they'd sold off all its gold and silver reserves. Did you know that?

I didn't know that they'd sold off all their gold and silver. Must have been under Trudeau. But he says, at first, our counterparties claimed that it was merely a logistical issue. First, they said the silver would come from New York. Weeks went by. When that didn't materialize, it was supposedly coming from Chicago. Months passed. Then England became a source.

With a couple of more months, shipping estimate assurances. Finally, they claimed that it would come from China, requiring cross-Canada rail transport as a way of explaining a few months more of delay. When I demanded bar numbers for our inventory purposes, we were met with weeks of silence and more excuses. Our legal position was frustrating. Our lawyers advised that we couldn't effectively sue because what damages could we claim?

Missing out on the enjoyment of looking at our silver bars? That wasn't exactly a compelling legal argument. Meanwhile, the silver prices kept climbing. Well, there's your damages right there, right? They never had the physical silver. He said this situation likely triggered the 2006 to 2010 silver rally and foretells what will likely occur again soon. The reality is that over many decades, bullion banks have been caught repeatedly manipulating commodity markets.

When squeezes start due to actual physical demand, they engage in unethical conduct, delaying these deliveries to buy themselves some time. Today's silver market is facing unprecedented pressures. We have medical applications for silver, high-tech electronics, solar panels, electric vehicles, and of course, that's going to be things like copper as well, emerging solid-state battery technology. What makes this time different is that we're on the cusp of robotic revolution. The coming wave of automation will

require massive amounts of silver for solid state batteries and for electronics and so the same thing is happening with gold in a slightly different way this is happening in the london metals exchange and there's been so much repatriation of gold into new York and also into Asia that they can't come up with it. And so this is what Tony Argument has always talked about. He said, you know, it's not just the issue with inflation and the weakness of the dollar and other things like that, but it's the fact that there's a great deal of silver and gold that have been sold multiple times in this paper silver and gold stuff. It's been sold over and over again, stuff that they do not have. And when people realize that, that's going to create an even bigger panic on top of the fundamental issues about inflation and the rest of this stuff so just a

word to the wise about what is happening and how you want to try to get out of this i'll just say one more thing this was back it was a year ago when i was talking to senator frank nicely who tried to stop uh election money from coming out if i'm out of state election money from coming into the state the other republicans did not support him on it and so the out-of-state money got him out of office but in the senate he introduced this and bud halsey introduced it in the house a bill to make gold and silver legal tender in the state you know we were talking about getting rid of the penny and the fact that congress could um you know mint coins and things like that well it also says that states cannot issue anything other than gold and silver

this would be a good thing to do unfortunately um that didn't happen and i'm not really sure what the situation is going to be. But you don't have to be dependent on the state doing the right thing. You can still do it yourself. If you go to DavidKnight.Gold, that'll take you to Tony Ardaban. You can get gold or silver directly. You can get it in any amount. So you can hold it yourself.

You can also put it in an IRA. And you can also get into a program when you gradually accumulate it. That's the Wolfpack program. You pick how much money you want to take out of the fiat currency and put into gold or silver each month. And he will do that for you and send it to you each month. We're going to take a break. And we've got a guest who is, Jason Barger says, won't Gaza be underwater by 2030? Yeah.

If you believe their predictions, that's right. And of course, they don't believe their predictions. Obama bought oceanfront property that they all show on their websites. This is going to be underwater by 2030, that type of thing. But we've got a guest who's going to be joining us, a January the 6th, who's been pardoned. He was tried and convicted given years in prison and so we want to talk to him about his experience because folks we need to be concerned about what is happening to regardless of what people think about any of the politics

don't we all want to have a genuine justice system where people can get a fair trial where we're not going to have excessive punishments and all people are going to get a fair trial, where we're not going to have excessive punishments and all the rest of this stuff? I think that is incredibly important. So we're going to take a quick break, and we will be right back. Stay with us. Good evening. Tonight's tale is a story of paranoia and a most unexpected perpetrator, the common cow. Or more specifically, what comes out the other end. Yes, the air is thick with intrigue, as it seems that in our modern age of propaganda, even a humble bovine's backside can be branded a national security threat. The menace is invisible, silent, yet deadly. Carefully contrived to panic the masses

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Well, let me know if that's the right way or not. 32 years old, Navy contractor, held a government security clearance. And he was there on January the 6th. I want to talk to him about what happened there and especially about what happened with his trial and with his prison sentence. And, of course, the way he was attacked in the media. He was significantly attacked in the media. So joining us now is Timothy Hale Cusinelli. Did I pronounce your last name correctly? That would be correct, sir. Good job. Thank you. Okay, well, great. I'm glad you're out of prison. And I've looked at this. And as I just

so you know where I'm coming from, I strongly encourage everybody to stay away. I was worried that it was going to be an entrapment. And it turned out to be a bigger entrapment than I had anticipated in terms of 1,500 people being given excessive charges and excessive punishment for what happened there. But I'd like to get your story. Tell us a little bit about why you went. Well, sure. You know, look, I was a government employee. I served the country for about 12 years by the time of my arrest. I majored in history. I very much believed in civics. I went to the Capitol in a suit and tie,

and we'll get into how they sort of did a frame job on me. But I went there thinking that essentially it was just going to be a historic day. From my perspective, it would either be the last public speech President Trump would give as president, you know, with his one term, or if they did pull a rabbit out of their hat, then this would theoretically be the beginning of his second term. I thought it was going to be a historic day regardless. And so I just went there to support the president. And that was essentially it. I didn't even realize there was going to be any protests over at the Capitol. I thought it would just be the speech at the ellipse so that was uh that was a surprise to me i think that's what a lot of people expected yeah tell me

a little bit more about what would the rabbit be that they would have pulled out that that day yeah i mean theoretically if you know if mike pence had done Mike Pence had done as Trump and his supporters had wanted, if they had done that and they, let's say theoretically, they challenged the certification, then maybe they could have sent it back to the states. They could have analyzed if there was fraud, anything like that. I mean, that was pretty much it. And it's not to say that it was a 100% guarantee. I don't think anybody really felt in their heart that everybody in Congress was going to do everything that they wanted. But it would have been nice to at least seen it challenged,

because it seemed that from election night onward, there was just sort of an attempt to brush things under the rug that people saw as inconsistencies and things like that and so a lot of people were there the judges were just running from they didn't even want to hear the case you know and i i i got fired because i said on the 14th of december i said okay well that's it they've turned in the electoral college so their window for contesting this stuff is essentially over thomas massey said if they'd sent us a second slate of electors and of course there were four uh republican states uh republican controlled legislatures and um two of them had republican governors as well and if they had taken instead of since they were getting

thrown out of the courts and left and right and none of the judges wanted to put themselves in that position it was too hot of a potato i said if they would have gone to these made their cases to these republican legislatures they might have gotten enough of them to send a second slate of electors and then as thomas massey said we would have had a choice you know do we go with a slate of electors that's coming from the governor or the slate of electors that's sent by the state legislature but they they didn't do any of that. So that was the thing. I said, it was on the 14th, I said, well, that's it.

There's not any official slate that you could even make the case for that. Because you could always make the case that the legislature had the power to do that. And that's where they would have heard the determination, if there'd been a difference between the legislature and the executive branch in these different states as to which slate of electors they were going to have but yeah that's all beside the point uh so you went because it was going to be a historic day uh you went to overthrow the government in a suit and a tie right unarmed as all these people did right yeah disavow no yeah no it's a you know yeah then that's the thing it doesn't sense from, uh, even when you look at people who went in there, like body armor and stuff like that, people wore armor for instance, because they previously

had stopped the steel rallies. People were getting stabbed by Antifa. There's a context to this, but you know, I mean, if you know, Trump supporters, you know, that there's, they, if, if that was their motivation, they mostly wouldn't have gone unarmed or armed with flagpoles. And so the narrative makes no sense. That's right. So after the day, how long before you start to have engagement from the Biden Department of so-called justice?

How long did that take? Right. It took about a week. So I was a union rep. You had mentioned I worked for the Navy. I was a Navy weapons contractor. So I secured Navy bases and the kind of facilities that rearmed warships. So I was a security contractor there and I was also a union rep. So I had a very poor relationship with the management of that company because they violated, it doesn't matter, but basically they

violated laws that protected veterans. And so we were always at odds. And I was actually working with my local congressman, Chris Smith, who threw me under the bus after the fact. But basically... Was he Republican or Democrat? Yeah, he's a rhino. He's a rhino out of New Jersey. And so management tipped off NCIS that I was at, I was in DC, not necessarily

that I did anything wrong, but just that I was there. And so they came to my home, my apartment on the base looking for me and then ended up finding my roommate and they strapped a wire to him to get him to, uh, incriminate me. Wow. And, uh, they went to extreme lengths to, to try to set me up. Yeah. Uh, so, um, they have him wearing a wire

and they tried to get him to get you to say certain things. Were they successful in that? You could say, yeah. I had been drinking that night somewhat out of depression. I was like, that did not go the way

I wanted it to go that day. And I was just kind of like, you know, waiting and just, you know, they were saying each day just got a little bit worse in the coverage. These guys were insurrectionists, 20 years in prison. It's like, oh boy, my roommate, my roommate was a BLM guy, but we had gotten along. We'd known each other for years. We lived together for years. And so typically saying incendiary stuff was like not out of, you know, it was not strange in our household. And so, yeah, he had basically recorded me saying, yeah, I think there might be a civil war.

And then when I said, I don't actually want a civil war, they cut that out of the transcript so they could use it to deny me bail. So I get denied bail and I get sent to solitary confinement in what they call the D.C. Gulag. So, yeah. How long were you in the D.C. Gulag before you got a trial? 16 months, a year and a half before I got a trial in solitary. And then I was there for about two years in total before I finally, after I was convicted, I was sentenced to four years. So I did another year in the Bureau of Prisons. But President Trump signed what's called the First Step Act.

So that gave me first step credits if I took classes and stuff. So I only had to do three years on a four-year bid. So that was nice. Tell us what it was like in the D.C. Gulag for 16 months. You know, there's, how do I put, you know, there, when we first got there, there was a solitary confinement. So you're in your cell 23 hours a day. You barely got out an hour to shower or to, um, use the phone. You couldn't get legal visits. as an excuse not to provide you visitation with family, to see your lawyer. If your lawyer did show up and he did get in the building, sometimes they would just not allow you to leave the unit. It's funny enough, Marjorie Taylor Greene came to the jail to inspect her conditions in the summer of 2021, and they turned her away. The same day, they also turned my lawyer away.

So they would play games like that. You couldn't have religious services, you couldn't receive communion. There was basically no medical care. And what's interesting is that a lot of these things, they would hold you hostage. They would basically use... Well, COVID was sort of a Trojan horse for the facility in DC to deny you any civil rights. But what they would also do is very tricky. They would offer you civil, they would offer you your rights if you took the COVID shot. So they would basically hold you hostage to the, to the jab. So, oh, you want to, you want to go to church? Okay.

Well, you mean you just take the shot and you can go and they would promise. And granted, not everybody took it. A few people did and they lied to them. So, um, it was all just a carrot and stick. So even after they took the shot, they wouldn't to them. So it was all just carrot and stick. So even after they took the shot, they wouldn't give them the promised privileges, right? Yeah. Yeah. We were segregated from the rest of the unit as well.

So we were forced to be, and I wanted to be in general population, actually, because we would have had more freedom. But they actually segregated us in a facility called CTF. You had CDFdf and then there was ctf cdf is central detention facility that's the main jail we were in central treatment facility it was a literal madhouse it was a nut house um feces hair clumps stuff jammed into the walls and the corners of everything um the and the the guards actually admitted they cleared that out for us weeks before january 6 they knew they would that they knew we would be there um so yeah it was a set of houses there it was a setup absolutely was um how big was the cell that you were stuck in for 23 hours a day

let's say it's about seven feet you know so yeah seven by seven yeah roughly and of course you're in solitary confinement you don't have any anything to read uh you don't do you have a light what kind of situation is it with that uh yeah there's a there's a light switch um and then but i mean you don't necessarily need it even though it's uh dark in your cell you know there there's artificial lighting throughout the entire unit non-stop um and even outside of dc like i went to a facility before that the marshals move you around the country they call it diesel therapy they just bounce you around until you settle down where you're supposed to be i remember they did that to a congressman and and and just destroyed his body doing that.

He transferred him from one place to the other. Yeah. I mean, and that's what it was. So before DC, I was in a place called Northern Neck, Virginia, or the Warsaw facility. And they just kept the lights on in your cell 24-7. So, I mean, good luck sleeping. And there's just other things like that. But, yeah, I mean, in DC, your cell had a toilet, a bed, quote, unquote.

You know, it's basically a metal bunk bed, and you have, like, an inch-thick foam mattress. And you have a three-inch-wide window, but there's nothing to look at. The only view I had out of my window was a graveyard. There's a graveyard right outside the jail. So it was kind of not the most optimistic thing. Yeah. Do you have, and you don't have anything that you can read either, right? They give you any?

No, no. Unfortunately, eventually we got some Bibles mailed in, but asking for that was like, you know, pulling teeth. The jail didn't want to provide us. And even to have like our own Bible studies as opposed to getting to have religious services um you know that that was a complete pain in the butt um and there were these tablets these black tablets they were like these bricks and you could theoretically find stuff on there to read or to look at but they charged you for it so in order to have entertainment tablet access you'd have to have money on your books and that wasn't exactly that wasn't exactly beneficial for people who were broke you know so wow everything everything behind a paywall so that's uh the dc gulag and then you spend 16 months there then they transfer you to another prison facility what was that like

better in some regards you know prison and jail are different animals. Uh, we were pre-trial detainees in DC in J in, uh, in prison though, I was on Fort Dix. So it's funny because in the army, I actually worked on Fort Dix here in New Jersey, but there was also a prison to it. So on the prison side, um, it's not what I was expecting, you know, working on the army base. I would be told when I was a reservist, they would say, Oh, you should get a part. You should get a job, uh, working for the, uh, working for the prison as a guard or something. It's a white collar prison. Like, okay.

I figured that meant that it would be like a financial crimes and stuff, but no, it's all child molesters and illegal aliens. It's like used as an ice facility and it's a low security for all kinds of degenerates. So that was interesting, but you know, it was just killing time then i could read so that's uh that's what i did non-stop i'm surprised that uh you know kind of a low security white collar prison would have child molesters in it i guess they don't consider pedophilia to be much of a big deal you'd be surprised what the bop considers them yeah they're uh they're a protected class actually unfortunately wow yeah well tell us a little bit about the trial and about the charges

that they brought against you um well first of all tell us what you did that day besides wearing a suit and tie um did you get involved in any kind of violent altercation was there any property destroyed uh did you go into the building? Tell us a little bit about that. Yeah, so I actually did go inside the Capitol. I was in there for approximately 40 minutes. So for that time, I wandered throughout hallways. I took some selfies with statues in an area called the Crypt. Someone had put a Trump flag in a statue's hand. I'm like, that's pretty funny. I'm not going to lie. I danced in an area called the capital visitor center and basically just goofed around until the cops told us to leave and that was pretty much it um so no i never engaged in violence

i never damaged anything i didn't steal anything i didn't really do any of that stuff but um what i was charged with was a statute called 18 U.S.C. 1512. For those who haven't been up to date on the way they prosecuted us, this is a statute that relates to tampering with documents. And so the original statute is called tampering with a witness, goes back to the 80s. After the Enron scandal, they adjusted it. They amended it with a substat statute in 2003 um and they call obstruction of an official proceeding it has to do with tampering with documents or destruction of documents that's the context and ron um they never applied that to protesters rioters whatever

you want to call it and so for after january 6th the biden administration starts indicting a bunch of people with this fake felony charge and basically saying that because both houses of Congress were in session together, that was obstruction of an official proceeding, ignoring the fact none of us tampered with documents or even attempted to. I got convicted under that, and basically all they had to do was show that there was evil intent. The term is corrupt intent, which, you know, I mean, what is corrupt? Typically, if you don't mean it's evil, then you mean that there's some sort of self gain, like a corrupt judge or a corrupt executive. That didn't really, none of that even made sense. And

so last year, actually, the Supreme Court finally overturned the application of that statute. They overturned 1512, I believe, in June of 2024. And that's great. But myself and many others spent years in prison over a statute that turned out to not be applicable. So how did that affect your sentence before Trump pardoned you? If they overturned that? Yeah. You know, I would have done a year max because my other charges were misdemeanors. So, I mean, the maximum you can do for a misdemeanor is a year. I mean, they theoretically could have stacked it consecutively, but they don't typically do that. You get sentenced concurrently.

The longest charge or the longest sentence per charge, that's what your time is based on. But because I had that fake felony, they were able to give me years and years more. Even then, even then my, um, uh, they have what are called sentencing guidelines. And so, I mean, judges, they're again, they're guidelines, but typically the judge will go within a certain sentencing range based on point systems that they use to calculate how bad your offense was, that your characteristics, this, that, and the other thing. And I should have gotten approximately like 17 to 21 months, even after going to trial and losing.

But instead, because my judge had to make an example out of me, he sentenced me to 48 months or four years. That's over twice my guidelines. So because of that felony, yeah, they were able to put me behind bars for years and years and years. And I got screwed, but I kind of got lucky compared to a lot of my other friends. I have friends from the D.C. Gulag who got, you know, 8 years, 12 years, 14 years. And so that felony was used to destroy people. It was basically a Trojan horse, just like the COVID stuff.

And they used that. And they gave it to President Trump on top of it. For those who aren't aware, they charged, in the D.C. case, they charged President Trump with 1512. It was just a weapon. The whole time it was a weapon. Of course, he didn't do any time. How do you feel about the fact that you weren't pardoned before he left? You know, I mean, I've thought about that, but I don't think he even knew enough about

things going on at the time. Like I said, I was a history major. I look back at pardons, and I don't think they should be issued flagrantly. I think back to Adams, and this is why I think pardons and i don't think they should be issued flagrantly um i i think back to adams and this is why i think pardons were a good idea but when i think back to adams you know he actually seriously studied um the cases of people like during the phrase rebellion for instance and yeah it's a funny quote where he says uh these these weren't in these weren't insurrectionists these weren't uh you know this wasn't a a rebellion, basically. He says that this was

just a riot, and these were miserable, he says, miserable Germans who were as ignorant of our laws as they were of the language, something like that. And so, you know, it's kind of funny, but I do think clemency and mercy are things that are important. I don't

think even he suspected that the DOJ under the Biden administration was going to go so balls to the wall after he left office and go as hard as they did. I don't think most Americans did. And I think years into it, people were like, why are they still doing this? And so, I mean, again again i can't read the man's mind well there is a lot of discussion there was discussion that was going on with his personal attorney um cipollone and others who were advising him not to pardon people so they were aware of it they were talking about it and of course you know there were long historical precedents even if you

go back to the insurrection act the um Insurrection Act, which was done after the Civil War, was really kind of an act of vengeance against Confederate soldiers. And you had Andrew Johnson pardon them all blanket, you know, just blanket pardon because we're not going to continue the Civil War. But within Trump's lifetime, it was pretty well known what happened with Richard Nixon being given a pardon by Gerald Ford. And so we had precedents that were there. And so I was kind of wondering, since he decided that he would pass over it, I suspected that it was his lawyer giving him advice that, you know, you don't want to kick the ant bed by pardoning these people because they'll come after you. Well, they came after him anyway,

although he didn't go to jail for any of this stuff like everybody else. But it was, I don't know, I thought it was an interesting thing. I wonder how the people that were there saw it. I saw it as a total betrayal of all of you, but you think that he really didn't know. Yeah, and here's another thing to consider too. You know, playing devil's advocate here, if most of us were just given misdemeanors for trespass or things like that, not that we should have been, but if that were the case, if the law was applied even handedly, I don't think

it would have been such a humanitarian disaster. But when Trump left office, the DOJ went crazy, and they engaged in what they call the shock and awe campaign. And they started, you know, raiding people's homes, you know, raiding people at gunpoint, putting rifles in, you know, defendants' wives' faces. Oh, yeah. You know, there are defendants whose wives had miscarriages because of how they were rated. And so they really went over the top in order to, and keep in mind, I'm not defending rioting. But when you look at the riots before and even after, because they were rioting in D. in DC after we were in jail, you know. And so it's like when you look at it all, it was a strange precedent that was set.

And keep in mind one thing also as well. I don't think President Trump, I think, I think there were elements that set President Trump up just like they did with us. I don't think he knows. I didn't, I don't think he knew at the time why the riot actually happened the media had framed everything as oh we were insurrectionists we're trying to overthrow democracy blah blah blah the average person today probably still doesn't know what actually started the riot and the riot started because capitol police officers were throwing ordinance into the crowd and they incited a riot so it was a result of it was a result of excessive force, but that video wasn't even made public at the time. So, you know, I give him leeway with that because I don't think he knew the full story. I think they were lying to him as much as they were lying about us,

frankly. Yeah. What did you think he meant when he said, meet me at the Capitol? What was, what was his intention? He didn't go, but what do you think he was going to tell people to do? No, I think, I think it probably would have been just the same thing. It would have just been people there listening to a speech or waiting to see if anybody in Congress challenged the results. I don't think it would have been anything more than that. Keep in mind, you have to make assumptions about the chronology of events. So there were people knocking barriers over at the

Capitol before Trump's speech was even over. And when I was there, if you look at the video, you can hear people are confused because there are people already leaving his speech in mid-speech at the Ellipse. There are caravans of people walking down city blocks to get to the Capitol. And you can actually hear in one of my videos from my phone, someone behind me is like, there's some sort of a march going on. And so there were people doing this even before he said we were going to go to the Capitol to peacefully and patriotically protest. You have to assume that he knew people were going to knock barriers down or something like that. And I don't think he did. I think that actually it made him look really,

you know, it made him look bad and it actually, it was embarrassing. And it actually, I think it set him up for a lot of legal trouble. So I don't, you know, I don't blame president Trump for January 6th. I actually think that if you look at like the Metro PD's body cameras, they had backup cops show up at the Capitol and they're telling each other, they set us up, they set us up. And they're like, yeah, absolutely. And so the question is, who's they? Because the Capitol Police at the time answered to Nancy Pelosi and the Metro PD answered to Mayor Bowser. And so if there was a setup, and I think there was, I think it was elements within the D.C. infrastructure and I think it was elements within the government.

And I don't even think it was just Democrats. uh i think it was elements within the government and i don't even think it was just uh democrats i think there were probably elements within the the gop leadership who probably like mcconnell maybe i don't know that but the way that both parties were sort of in unison with the insurrection narrative i wouldn't be surprised i think there was collusion the entire time and i mentioned you, the way that they weaponized the 1512 charge. The courts co-signed all that. So you really, all three branches, I think, you know, whether it be the admin and even the executive with the FBI, we know there were FBI agents in the crowd. I know some of their names. I found one of their houses here in New Jersey. You know, we've identified feds. There were feds there. You have them on satellite phones. You have CHSs, confidential human sources.

We know that the infiltrated groups like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, we know their names. So, yeah, I mean, it was definitely an operation. I don't blame President Trump whatsoever. I think he was set up as much as we were. The question is, to what extent was the infiltration? And I'm hoping with this new administration, they investigate that because a lot of lives— I think the people in the corrupt Justice Department and the judges and all the rest of them, they need to be impeached. They need to be tried and imprisoned, I believe. And I think it's interesting that Biden did not pardon Merrick Garland. If anything, he was running this whole thing thing so he needs to do it but i go back and i look at you

know we say that trump was an innocent victim and all this stuff he made more money with that save america grift that he did than he did in the presidential campaign that he had and the guy that i worked for was running stop the steal and he made millions of dollars off of that so you know they kind of directed people in it. I was trying to get people to go away from it. I could see this all coming from months ahead of time. I knew the people who were running this Stop the Steal stuff, and I knew what they were in it for. And I knew they didn't care about the supporters that they were setting up.

They just wanted the money with all that stuff. But let's talk a little bit about what happened with the trial aspect of it. You said you went to trial rather than taking a plea bargain. How do you feel about the way the trial progressed? Because I've covered a lot of these political stories, and whenever the government's got a beef against you, and it's something that is highly politicized by them, I know that they pull out all the stops. What was the trial like? It was very surreal.

And I'll start with this. You have what are called voir dire hearings. And so this is jury selection. And you only get so many strikes for cause where you can be like, no, we can't use that guy. They're biased. No, we can't use that person. We can't correct any errors there with that potential juror. Jury selection was bananas because everybody on my jury more or less worked for the government.

Yeah. They worked for the Department of Justice. Who was your lawyer? Did you represent yourself lawyer did you represent yourself or did you have a lawyer i had a lawyer his name was uh jonathan crisp he's a jag officer so he's a colonel in the u.s army and uh he represented me then um and yeah it was it was it was crazy it was crazy these were all the doj employees They actually tried to put someone from Chuck Schumer's office, one of his aides, on my jury. And people, like, it's crazy.

I mean, you would think D.C. is biased enough as it is because of the voting, like, the voting pattern there, the political bent. And then you would think it's even more biased, of course, because it was so, D.C. is so condensed. Obviously, everyone there was familiar with January 6th. Maybe not the truth, but certainly the reporting on it and the perception. And D.C. is so condensed. Obviously, everyone there is familiar with January 6th. Maybe not the truth, but certainly the reporting on it and the perception. But they were especially biased because they would tell you they're biased. Like, hey, can you be fair and impartial on this jury? No.

Okay, sounds good to me. You know, like that's seriously what I have the transcripts. It was that bad. They made their hostility towards us and President Trump very well known. How did the JAG officer feel about this? This wasn't his first rodeo. How did he feel about the whole process, the jury selection, the trial, everything? Did he feel like it was rigged?

Yeah, I mean, look, even he was surprised by how the trial went down because, you know, look look lawyers are not particularly known for being like you know particularly uh right-wing partisans you know they work within a system they it's similar to any you know professional i think that they i think that they like the uh the thrill you know i think that they like being excellent they they want to be the best and they like to win cases and so winning is their prerogative and now granted a lot of them are you know they make backroom deals with uh you know the prosecutors and stuff like that but this wasn't that situation we fought um and we couldn't get our evidence uh we we we it's crazy because you know i ended up winning like with the sentencing enhancements later on but during that trial and even before that with motions the court would

give the prosecution anything they wanted we wanted to change a venue because of bias denied we wanted bail denied we wanted to you know this denied. And so it really was that the, uh, the court was colluding with the prosecution. I mean, and that, and that's really what it was. It was an uphill battle. We were, we just, we weren't going to win. We did what we could. Um, but at the end of the day, we put the government to its burden. The government technically won by convicting me, but they still didn't actually prove their case um and so i mean let me ask you about evidence uh you know exculpatory evidence like um you know video cameras and things like that were you able to um get any of that or do they deny that to you and you said that you know they were selective and of course we know they were they cherry picked

what they wanted to show um what happened with that aspect of it so for and they're still hiding video by the way um i thought they had all that stuff no that means they got all that stuff i don't know what happened with that i think that they released some cctv but it's frankly it's not even it's barely a fraction of what exists they're still hiding thousands and thousands of hours of video. We eventually, in the DC jail, eventually we would get access to another tablet. Basically, it was this clear tablet where we could stream video off of a website called evidence.com. And basically, this is where they had all the CCTV and MPD body cameras,

though not really all of it. They would secretly at night drop like thousands of hours, like they would have video dumps in the middle of the night, especially after people's trials, after they'd already been convicted, exculpatory evidence. And yeah, basically they hid this under protective orders as well. So if you're a defendant and you want to go public, like, hey, the cop I allegedly assaulted

because they were murdering a woman at the lower west terrace tunnel yeah the video of her getting killed right here um that's under protective order i can't tell the public you know stuff like that was suppressed the government did not want the video getting released to the public they put protective orders on it the the judges imposed it and um this was really just a way to gatekeep and keep the truth under wraps. And so, yeah, I mean, it was if it wasn't an uphill battle already, it certainly was that it was almost impossible for some people to build their cases. Not everybody was incarcerated with us. We actually did eventually using that system, we kind of broke into it a little, kind of hacked it a bit, you know, quote unquote hack, not really, but we found, we found, you know, back doors to find certain things without actually having to sign the protective orders. And we were able to watch

thousands of hours of video. And we, you know, we, we proved that, yeah, there were provocateurs in the crowd, but also the cops initiated the riot. And so, but people on the outside, a lot of people who did get bail, they didn't have access to this sort of thing. And basically, when you're a defendant, if you're not actively spending hours upon hours watching video, you only have what the government provides you.

So the government will provide you their worst case scenario and they'll give you nothing exculpatory. It's called a Brady violation. And so, basically, you're screwed know if you're looking for anything that actually it works in your favor you have to go find it yourself and most lawyers on the outside didn't know what they were looking for they basically only had to go off of what the government offered them and those of us on the inside who did see the truth we were censored and we couldn't tell the public and so for and again even to this day and this is what's so messed up. And this is why like,

I look at the house Republicans, like, what are you doing? Cause I don't know if you heard this, but like they started releasing a lot of CCTV a year or so ago on a rumble page, but they started blurring people's faces. And you think, well, that's interesting because the FBI already has all this video and they have facial recognition software. Why are they blurring people's faces? The sedition hunters have been finding people just with pictures of their clothing. Like that's interesting. And I think that they were hiding confidential sources and feds inside the crowd. Personally, that's my opinion um they stopped doing it but that was that was just weird it just seemed like there were just constantly these uh these barriers

to hide the video from the public so that they can't find out what actually happened that day oh yeah oh yeah yeah i was not surprised at all as a matter of fact um the morning of january the six my program runs in the morning all this stuff kicked off about an hour and a half after the program and i warned everybody for the final time i said stay away from it it is going to be filled with agent provocateurs they're going to provoke something uh i knew this was going to be happening because of the things that alex jones was doing when i worked for him and and all the rest of the stuff so i knew that was going to happen i've been saying it for weeks and weeks um on air uh there before he fired me but i could see this stuff shaping up

right after the election happened. They immediately started talking about how they're going to raise money. It's going to be like falling off a log. And boy, certainly they did raise a lot. Let's talk about the personal attacks on you. As more than anybody else, I think. When I Google your name, I see, you know, in conjunction with January the 6th, I see the BBC, everybody coming after you as the Hitler mustache capital rioter. And they put pictures up of you. And let me see if I can pull this one up here. Yeah. Now, was this a joke, the one that they've got there because i mean it

looks like you're um well you tell me what was the circumstance of this what were you doing with this right it was a joke it was a joke and i did not go to the capitol looking like that and so just to be perfectly clear that's from a year before january 6 i was an internet like comedian comedian if you want to call that i was a satirist my whole life i produced satire and so that was that was basically political um that was political satire aimed at governor phil murphy of new jersey with the uh the covet lockdowns the long story short he did a interview with tucker carlson and tucker carlson said yeah kovitz bad and all that but what about the constitution and phil murphy says well tucker that's above my pay grade yeah i remember that

yeah and so i did what i i did a series of reaction videos on youtube and stuff like that where i i posed like that and i'm like yeah emergency powers why would you ever question the state right on you. And it was ironic. But that gets completely lost in translation. It was a year before January 6th. I did not go to the Capitol with a Hitler mustache. Like I said, I was there in a suit and tie. The CCTV shows this too.

But if you look at the pictures, it's just like, well, that doesn't match up at all. That doesn't comport with reality. And the reason they did that was, well, one, again, to further prejudice any potential jury. Two, to smear me in the public. Three, to cover up the fact that I was entirely peaceful and I didn't actually do anything at the Capitol. And four, and this is, again, take it with a grain of salt, but I think they were trying to frame me as like the next Timothy McVeigh or a far-right extremist who was a potential security threat. The FBI just came to my house last week to return my property after I was arrested for January 6th. Well, the problem is they didn't return any of my property. All my property, according to them, is still in the D.C. office.

This was the Newark office here in New Jersey. And the property they gave me, they returned to me, was a postcard. And it was like, well, that's interesting. I never got this postcard. I didn't even know it existed. Well, what's the postcard? Well, the return address is to the Russian embassy in Washington, D.C. Well, that's weird.

There were phone numbers there for me to get free money. Two numbers, one out of Nevada, one out of Florida. And it basically has a bunch of racial epithets on it. And it's like, well, this is interesting. And so what's interesting is that the officers or the FBI agents, they said, oh, yeah, this came for you right after you got arrested. It's like, well, I never got it. Well, they mailed it to the base I was living on, the Navy base I protected. Well, I still never got it. And there was, again, the address was not towards my apartment. It was specifically to the Navy. And what I suspect is that if I had not,

if I had done better during my bond, if I had been given bail, I think that they were attempting to set me up as some sort of foreign asset or something like that uh i did get bail by a magistrate judge but the district court overruled it when the government appealed so i had to go all the way to dc that's why i had to go there in the first place from jersey to dc and when i was in dc i started getting suspicious mail from white nationalist organizations asking if i wanted books and puzzles and stuff like that. I'm like, I'm not responding to any of this mail. There were multiple times where the feds were using informants inside the jail as well to

try to get me to discuss plotting another Oklahoma City bombing, things like that. They were trying to set me up as a domestic terrorist. That's one of the reasons why I, as a non-violent defendant was being constantly being denied bail they were trying to set me up and it just it never went anywhere because i knew what they were doing so um this is a very long way of saying they set me up and they framed me for a narrative yeah but uh yeah that's that's all that you see when you look at it now the bbc article says they added over the course of an internal Navy probe into you that 34 of your colleagues said that you had extremist or radical views pertaining to Jewish people, minorities, and women. When did that internal Navy probe happen?

This happened after my arrest when I was no longer the union rep, and they could basically squeeze my coworkers and my employees. So I'd mentioned the issue with management at the company. They had been threatening people at the job and I couldn't protect them as the union rep anymore. Now, first off, that report is a lie. They did not interview 44 of my coworkers. If you actually look at these NCIS reports, which took months for me to actually

get access to, and half of them are redacted, half of them are, you can barely read them. The quality is so poor. And again, these interviews were being done all the way up until March of 2021 while I was arrested in January. These weren't my coworkers. There are some of my coworkers, but for the most part, these are just Navy petty officers. These aren't people, these are not my coworkers. And so they manufactured a bunch of stuff. If you look at the, if you read the questionnaires, they say things like, well, I heard from someone who heard this, this is all, it's, it's all hearsay. And it, it's just, it was completely manufactured. I actually, when I finally got out of prison, I was able to reach out to my actual coworkers

and they sent me screenshots and stuff that completely contradicts this. I still talk to my coworkers. I actually have released screenshots that show, again, I was the union rep. They voted for me to protect their civil rights. I won every minority vote. Every black, Hispanic, and Asian employee

voted for me to defend their civil rights for management because they were the ones who were discriminating against them so this is complete nonsense it was just a narrative but again this was created by NCIS and it's not like the TV show they're not the good guys anyhow they're there and CIS they're the feds they're basically the FBI for the Navy and again the Navy and the FBI were both there to set me up and and i and so that's one of the reasons i wanted to have you on was because um you know i my sense was that um from what i've

i've seen in political trials and things like that that there is uh exculpatory evidence is withheld um and smears and things like that against people i wouldn't have you on if i really believed that that was the case but i wanted to hear it from you and give you a chance to respond to these public attacks on you, because they don't give your side of it. They don't ever talk to you in these hit pieces from the BBC. Of course, they're getting lots of USAID money as well. Let me ask you, though, you know, when you did the parody of the governor saying that this is above his pay grade. Did you get involved in any protests in terms of, you know, one of the things that's always concerned me,

it bothered me so much to see what was happening with lockdown, what I call medical martial law from the very beginning of it. And I didn't understand why people were so passive with all this stuff. I mean, I didn't go do any protests, but I wouldn't comply with any of it in the public sphere. And I looked at this as being predicated on money that was being paid by the president, by the Trump White House. He gave money to the hospitals to point finger at people and say they had COVID and gave them money to put them on the ventilators, gave them extra money to do remdesivir and all the rest of the stuff and created the vaccine. And I knew where this stuff was headed because I was

aware of all of the war games that they'd done since Dark winter on for 20 decade 20 years they had been doing this stuff so i looked at all that stuff and and i felt that trump was complicit in it did you not feel that he had any complicity in this i never really looked at it like that um the way the way i looked at it is that it was an unprecedented sort of thing in terms of the sheer scale of all of it. And when you look at the timeline of it, I don't feel like there was any attempt. I think a lot of these policies back then were really, from the top at least, I think it was kind of assembled piecemeal. That's the way I look at it.

Band-Aid here, I think that that's really what it was. I think, though, that it just provided a great opportunity for massive civil rights violations, especially more so by the governors. Right. So, I mean, eventually, after a certain point, I mean, they were still doing COVID lockdowns in D.C. a year after January 6th. So I can't put that squarely on the shoulders of President Trump. I do think that, you know, I mean, look, hindsight's 20-20. I don't think it was malice. I do think, though, that there might have been people promoting it, like Fauci and stuff like that, who are in the administration.

I mean, look, here's the fact that he put Fauci in power and gave him a medal on his last day, and the fact that he continued to push the vaccine after people were dropping dead, I covered that for years. And up until just a few months ago, Trump was still pushing that. You don't see that in hindsight? Well, you see it in hindsight, but again, that's, that's kind of what I'm saying is that at the time I think it was reactionary.

I think it was reactive, not proactive. You know, again, in terms of like malice versus, you know, whatever, I think that I think the administration now is more deliberate than it was the first time. I think that Trump came into office expecting that it was even though the government was corrupt and it was the swamp, I think he still thought that there would be more of a meritocracy sort of thing going on where he could find the best of the best and trust experts. I'm not saying that that's correct. I'm just saying that that's what I think it was now versus that versus now where he's kind of pulling people in like RFK or whoever from across the aisle to put them in that sort of a meritocracy.

That's the way I look at it. That's the way I kind of looked at it back then i i'm a pragmatist as well like i don't i think corruption is inherent in government i think people are corrupt and so i i don't see everything that i dislike or even the corruption that i that i uh can identify i don't think that it's always some massive thing i think that i don't know how to again i don't want to get into like montes and stuff like that i just thing. I think that, I don't know how to, again, I don't want to get into like Montesquieu and stuff like that. I just think that, I think that in government, you have to take it for how it is,

not how you want it to be. I'm not an idealist. I just, I think that power is something that needs to be wielded with suspicion. And I think maybe president Trump wasn't always as, as suspicious of the right people that he should have been. Yeah. But I think maybe President Trump wasn't always as suspicious of the right people that he should have been. But I don't think it was malice so much as it is that there's so much of our system that is just opportunistic and selfish and corrupt. And I wouldn't want to be

the one in charge. I'll say that. Yeah. Well, I guess we disagree on Trump, but I certainly, you know, I think that we all need to be concerned, regardless of what our political understanding of this is and what we believe. I think we all need to understand that a fair trial is essential to all of us and that any of us can be caught up in a weaponized government like this. I've seen it time and again, and it's in so many different areas. Whenever the government gets its sights put on you, if they see you in contradiction of the goals that they want to achieve, they will do anything to destroy you. They will throw the Constitution out, and they are not bound by

any of that. And I think that is something that all of us need to be concerned about. It's one of the reasons why, when we talk about the justice system, we want to make sure that even the guilty people, we don't have a lynch mob. We go through due process because we all want to have that due process. We all want to have a fair trial. And it bothered me a great deal as much as I had divorced myself from anything to do with Trump or the Stop the Steal stuff or the Save America grifts. I hated to see what happened with the people on January the 6th. And I hate the fact that the government can get away with this. And so I hope that Trump is going to do it. And I hope it's going to be done in a way that is not just personal revenge, but in a way that's going to be real reform.

I think people need to be, that the people who, the really dangerous people, the people who really committed the insurrection were the Department of Justice and the FBI people who dedicated so many resources to persecuting their political enemies. And I think they need to pay a price for this as a warning to other people, because if they don't go to jail, if they don't lose their jobs and go to jail, then these other people are going to feel that they have a free pass to do the same thing for those that they want to come after. And so I think going to jail would be a good thing. I think even for when the next administration comes around, that some of the people who are there now would be concerned that when another administration comes,

that's a left-wing Democrat version, that they would be going to jail if they were to violate the law. So maybe they'll abide by it a little bit more carefully than the FBI has in the past because the FBI has been all over the place since its creation from what I know about it. So it's good that you're out. I'm glad that you're out. I'm glad that this has been pulled back. I hope we see some real reform. I hope we see some people who did this stuff punished.

Tell us a little bit about your life now and what is ahead. Well, right now it's just sort of rebuilding. You know, it's just an unfortunate reality that you can't just pick up where you left off. So, I mean, I lost my military career. I lost my, you know, contracting job. But, you know, I think I think that, um, I think that adversity is, uh, is there to make us stronger. And so, um, now that the pardons are out and every everybody's out of jail and prison, I actually have been reconnecting a lot with all the men that I was incarcerated with. And so we're working together. Um, I've been actually interviewing the guys I was locked up with and I've been uploading these interviews and calling it January 6 Unfiltered.

And these are going to serve as primary sources. But long story short, we're actually writing a history book about this, about the D.C. gulag and about really everything. Because, again, what they did to me is just a fraction of it. Like, there were dozens and dozens of men who got framed like that. And so, you know, we're going to correct the narratives. We're going to talk about what actually happened that day from our perspectives. And we're going to record, you know, years and years of government abuses in those jails, the civil rights violations due process and all that.

So, uh, yeah, I've been covering this for a long time, going back to the Ammon Bundy trial and, uh, all the Bund Bundys and and how they railroaded that even even people who tried to help expose medical kidnapping Marty Gottesfeld and they put him in a communications management unit along with Francis Schaefer anything that's a you know look into that get some of the people talk about that I haven't heard them I don't think they put the January the six people in any CMUs, but that is another thing. It's kind of like a domestic Gitmo that they are setting up for political prisoners, and that's the way they're using this stuff. Well, I'm so glad that you're out. Timothy,

hail Cusinelli. I'm glad that you're free. I know that you are glad, and let's hope that we can get this information out and that we can get some real reform and that we can get this before the eyes and ears of the American public to understand what their government is actually capable of. First time you see it, it truly is amazing. And I guess you experienced it for the first time when, you know, you saw it when you experienced it for the first time. So thank you for joining us. I appreciate that. I appreciate you. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Thank you. All right, folks, we've got just a couple of seconds left. And I want to thank Sandy Hayes.

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But thank you. Let us know and we'll give them a plug tomorrow so that everybody, I guess if you're in the Four Corners area, you know that. But thank you so much for joining us. And as Wright Overture says, yeah, it truly is amazing that they have child molesters as a protected class. But would you expect anything else other than that out of the powers that be? I guess in reality, I'm not surprised. I'm disgusted, but not surprised. Thank you for joining us

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