The David Knight Show - Tue Episode #1994: CO2 Pipeline Peril - Elite’s Deadly Green Grift Threatens Lives and Liberty

Starting point is 00:00:00 The In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. It's The David Knight Show. As the clock strikes 13, it's Tuesday, the 22nd of April. You have Our Lord 2025, and it is also Earth Day. And so today on this Earth Day, we're going to take a look at the Green Bonanza, but rather than look at the 55 years of the world's going to end and all these false predictions and prophecies. Instead we're going to take a look at a new dangerous policy. Yeah, we've looked at deindustrialization, a kind of neo dark ages, starvation policies denying us meat and dairy and many other things, eat the bugs, immobilization, no autos, no

Starting point is 00:01:23 flights, nothing, even limiting the amount of clothing that we can buy. But today we're going to take a look at another kind of insanity, a very dangerous kind of insanity that is associated with carbon sequestration and pipelines. And guess what? Elon Musk and Donald Trump are at the very center of this, along with the governors from North and South Dakota. They're now a big part of the Trump administration. We'll be right back. Well, on this Earth Day, and here we are, this is, let's see, the first one was 1970, so we're 55 years under this. They've been doing this Earth Day scam as long as Klaus Schwab was the head of the World

Starting point is 00:02:24 Economic Forum, he stepped down as well. Same age as the Pope. They have a lot in common, as a matter of fact. We'll talk about that later. And of course, Kristi Noem, who is going to green light the pipelines going through, she's now there at DHS. These people who want you to have real ID and all the rest of this stuff.

Starting point is 00:02:47 She just had her purse stolen with all of her high level clearance documents and all the rest of the stuff in it. Plus, $3,000 in cash. How much do these people make? Well, actually, they don't make that much. She's got another source of income somewhere. I haven't done a deep dive to's got another source of income somewhere. I haven't done a deep dive to see if it was her family business.

Starting point is 00:03:07 They had a farm. It could be a very, very big farm, a very successful farm, or maybe there's something else going on when she goes down to El Salvador and stands in front of that Paris prison and shows off her $50,000 watch. She's got a watch that costs $50,000. She's got a purse that's got $3,000 cash in it. These people should have got her watch. Obviously not doing their research. I mean it was all over the news that she had a $50,000 watch. I told that to Whistler and he said it must keep really good time. No, it's just an ostentatious

Starting point is 00:03:46 display of wealth, isn't it? But let's talk about the ostentatious display of arrogance and tyranny in this net zero. And you got the net zero zealots. We're talking about their time frame varies anywhere from from 2030 to 2050 for most Western countries. China and India are going to get there someday, they say. 2060, 70, something like that. But after everybody else has shut down all their industry, maybe they will at some point in time.

Starting point is 00:04:20 But there's an interesting article on Exposé News out of the UK saying net zero zealots have forgotten that 6,000 products are made from crude oil, including the equipment that is needed for their green agenda. Yeah, we can kind of sum it up mostly in one word. Oh, yeah, that's not working though, is it? I just want to say one word to you. Just one word. Oh, yeah, that's not working though, is it? I just want to say one word to you. Just one word. Yes, sir?

Starting point is 00:04:53 Are you listening? Yes, sir, yeah. Plastics. Yeah, yeah. You need to get those college graduates who have been propagandized for 12 years. Maybe longer, kindergarten, right? Maybe even earlier, they're watching some of these other programs. So you need to get a hold of them. These people have been brainwashed and gas-lit all of their lives, graduating from college,

Starting point is 00:05:21 maybe graduating from graduate school. And I tell them plastics, plastics. Yeah, amazing how that comes back, isn't it? Net zero policy makers the world over appear to be unaware that electricity is generated after oil, that renewables only produce electricity, not the products and the fuels needed to support the world's population. By the way, as I said, I used to work with a group that was fighting this climate change nonsense. And one of the guys who would go around, he'd worked for the EPA for 30 years, and then he

Starting point is 00:05:54 retired and went into opposition to them because they had their mission creep. It was a metastasizing bureaucracy like a cancer, and now they were no longer interested in cleaning up the environment. Instead they were interested in weaponizing this climate change nonsense. So he went into opposition against them. He would go around and he'd talk to people at different presentations and he'd say, �So what's your favorite form of energy?� Meaning do you want to get your energy from oil, coal, gas, solar, wind, nuclear, biochemicals or biomass and that type of stuff?

Starting point is 00:06:31 What's your favorite form of energy? It's that it never failed that somebody would raise their hand and say, electricity. No, that's the product of all those things. And that kind of answer is a product of extreme public ignorance about all those things. And that's the, that kind of answer is a product of extreme public ignorance about all this stuff. That's how they get us. So everything that needs, everything needs electricity, iPhones, computers, and they are made with the petrochemicals manufactured from crude oil, coal, or natural gas. Even the green agenda needs hydrocarbons.

Starting point is 00:07:05 All electric vehicles, solar panels, wind turbines are built with products, components and equipment made from crude oil derivatives. Plastics, of one sort or the other. Getting rid of crude oil will eliminate electricity. More than 6,000 products in demand by hospitals, airports, communications, transport, the 8 billion people on this planet. See, that's the design though. That's their purpose. They want to get rid of most of the 8 billion people. They don't want there to be more than a half a million, half a billion or something like that. They want to get rid of most of the people. They've made that pretty clear over

Starting point is 00:07:39 and over again. For the people that remain, if they're even necessary at all, actually, you know, the numbers that they put up on the Georgia Guidestone that was maybe not taking into consideration all their wonderful robots that are going to do everything for them. They don't even need us as their slaves. But they want to put us into a neo-feudal system, a neo-dark ages, de-industrialize everything. Today, net zero policy makers are setting green policies and this author says they are oblivious to the reality that so-called renewables only generate electricity cannot make anything. They are not oblivious to reality. It's the public that is oblivious to the reality. These

Starting point is 00:08:26 people know full well what they're doing. Full well. Everything that needs electricity like iPhones, computers, made from petrochemicals manufactured from crude oil, coal or natural gas. Electricity came after oil as all electrical generation methods from hydro, coal, natural gas, nuclear, wind, solar are built with the products, components, and equipment that are made from oil, from derivatives manufactured from crude oil. All EVs, solar panels, wind turbines built with products, components, equipment made from crude oil derivatives, all transportation fuel for cars, trucks, merchant ships, aircraft, military as well.

Starting point is 00:09:09 For manufactured raw crude oil. Getting rid of crude oil would eliminate electricity in more than 6,000 products. The ruling class in wealthy countries is not cognizant that the planet's population has increased from 1 to 8 billion after oil over the last 200 years. No, I disagree with that. They know that exactly. They know that it is cheap available energy that has not only created the lifestyles that we have and has given us more freedom and independence from things that we had in

Starting point is 00:09:46 the past. But they know that it's also led to an increase in life expectancy and in population. And they don't like any of those things. They don't like us having our own energy. They don't like us having independence. They don't like us having mobility, food, any of this. They don't like us. And so it's not just about them changing our lifestyle and enslaving us. They want to get rid of life expectation.

Starting point is 00:10:13 They know exactly what there is. It's amazing to me to see how somebody can give them the credit when they have said it over and over. I'm not drawing conclusions here, although that would be very easy to do based on their actions. But they've admitted it, said it over and over and over again what their objectives are. Lifestyles before the 1800s are drastically different. The world did not have any infrastructures that we have today. They go through a list, you know, transportation,

Starting point is 00:10:45 hospitals, medical equipment, appliances, electronics, telecommunications, communication systems, space programs, heating, ventilating, military. Well, they did have military. Always have had military. Even if you just got the strong men in the Roman legion with their shields and swords, they've had the military. But the rest of the infrastructure for the military. And it was not there. Of course, it's not a good thing that they have magnified their capability to reign death from the skies

Starting point is 00:11:16 on civilian populations and they do it with nauseating regularity. All the above infrastructure needs electricity, the same electricity is based on wire and insulation, which are made from the same oil derivatives, manufactured from raw crude oil. Today we have more than 50,000 merchant ships, more than 20,000 commercial aircraft, more than 50,000 military aircraft that use fuels manufactured from crude oil. We've had more than 200 years to clone oil to support the supply chain of products demanded by society and we've been unsuccessful at that. Now there are other people who come up with alternative forms of energy who have been shut down, bought out, quietly moved away.

Starting point is 00:12:01 It's not to say that we can't have some and of course I'm'm not here in defense of big oil, I'm here in defense of oil. I'm not here in defense of big food, I'm here in defense of food. And so on and on. It's the bigs that have to be concerned about. The wealthier countries have all the above infrastructure, and they have greater longevity than the other 80 percent of people on the planet earth. Yeah, it's not just lifestyle it's lifespan.

Starting point is 00:12:30 The cheap available energy is. So what do our governments in the west want to do? Well, they want to attack that. The foundation. That's what all this nonsense about Earth Day is. This is what all this these false alarms and false alarmism that's been going on for over 55 years is all about. Saying people put that thing together,

Starting point is 00:12:52 as I've mentioned over and over again, Paul Ehrlich and others were all about reducing population. It all came from the depopulationists. They just changed the narrative for public consumption and started using the government institutions to propagandize Future generations the Australian government has a target of net zero by 2030 the German government net zero by 2045 California by 2045 now, of course, we've seen these numbers move down to 20 30 20 30 many times

Starting point is 00:13:26 those numbers are malleable. That's the maximum amount of time they're going to take. It doesn't say they won't move those numbers further down. The UK, net zero, 2050. Canada, 2050. EU, Japan, and South Korea, 2050. The Biden administration, 2050. India Biden administration 2050. India 2070. They get another 20 years to dominate us and China 2060. After all industry has moved to them and then they'll say well you

Starting point is 00:13:55 know we can't shut that down. We have to have that keep them going. 24 states Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia have 100% clean energy goals. And again, to call something clean or dirty, that's just a politicized term. You can make any of these things clean. It's just a question of technology and cost. You know, it's very expensive to make a zero emission, essentially zero emission diesel, but you can do it. I mean, Mercedes has got their blue goo or whatever they have,

Starting point is 00:14:28 they can capture all of the things that we imagine are going to kill us, they can capture all that stuff. It's a matter of expense and technology, but you can put that there. And when you look at it from that standpoint, then why is it that the one that works has to be banned and we're going to

Starting point is 00:14:45 go to something completely different? Both of them require investments of money. Both of them require refinements in technology. But the one is the people is something that is there by the organizations that need to be replaced. And we have to have some brand new stuff for the people who have bought their politicians. That's the way the politicians do it. Sorry, you can't use that anymore. We have declared that to be dirty, unclean. It's unclean. Unclean,

Starting point is 00:15:13 unclean, like leprous, you know? So don't use the leprous technology. We're going to tell you now that you've got to use this stuff over here, which Bill Gates or Elon Musk has developed and isn't quite developed yet. And it's extremely expensive and it's more expensive than if you were to quote-unquote clean up the unclean. But you must do that because we said so. Before the decarbonization pledges go into effect and significantly reduce the availability of products and fuels made from oil that support life on Earth. All the world's net zero plans need to be amended to identify the replacement to fossil

Starting point is 00:15:52 fuels that can support the 8 billion people on this planet." Again, it's good this person is listing all the things that we use these unclean leprous technologies for but He doesn't realize that they want to get rid of the 8 billion people on it You got to tell us how you're gonna support 8 billion people Should we tell him that that's not the plan to support 8 billion people? Should we tell them that we don't care about having a replacement? Yeah, it's gaslighting to think this is about CO2 or climate. It's not about that at all.

Starting point is 00:16:31 It's about depopulation. And so this was, I got a heads up from Ryan. Thank you for sending that to me. I didn't realize that the John Burke Society is going to be premiering a video and they have a YouTube channel. It's pretty small. I imagine they're heavily shadow banned, and if they get any more attention, they'll

Starting point is 00:16:50 be taken down. But you can find their stuff on the places where, you know, there isn't censorship. Odyssey, Bitshoot, Rumble, places like that. And so the John Burke Society is putting out a documentary, unveiling it today on Earth Day, because it is about the issue of CO2 pipelines and the danger. This is an accident that happened back in 2020. It was reported a year later by NPR. Mainstream media has not really talked about it.

Starting point is 00:17:30 And it is something that really hasn't got much attention and that is the danger of what can happen when a CO2 pipeline bursts. The CO2 that is typically only zero point What is it? Zero point zero four percent of the atmosphere. I think it's zero point.04 percent. It's extremely small, tiny trace amount. One person put up, you know, the miraculous CO2 gas, this tiny trace amount in the atmosphere, and look at how it's changing the world's climate. Absolute nonsense if you understand that. Anyway, the small trace amount that is there in the atmosphere, once you concentrate it in massive quantities in a pipeline, if this thing bursts, it can suffocate the people around there. And it can hang there for quite some time.

Starting point is 00:18:17 So it can be quite dangerous. And when we go back, remember before the election, we were talking about this pipeline thing that was happening. We had this Summit pipeline, the CEO of Summit, one of the biggest of these pipeline companies. We wanted to build a pipeline going across continental United States, at least halfway across it, and to deposit it into the ground in North Dakota and South Dakota. And so the North and South Dakota governors, Christy Noem and Doug Burgum,

Starting point is 00:18:51 a billionaire in his own right, both of them went to Mar-a-Lago, along with the CEO of the Summit Pipeline, and met with Trump before the election. And we said, well, we know what they're gonna do with us. It's a massive green grift. And you need to understand that the carbon sequestration stuff

Starting point is 00:19:14 is the green grift that the conservatives and Republicans really like, because it's also tied to the oil industry. And so it's a way to keep the oil industry, you know, it's a way that they don't have to fight this false narrative of climate change. They can just get an indulgence and they can make more money by setting up this carbon sequestration, these pipelines, all the rest of the stuff, and then a lot of other people can get cut in on it as well.

Starting point is 00:19:44 And you and I are the big losers. We wind up having to pay for all this stuff. We wind up with the dangerous potential of an accident with this stuff. But mainly it is the cost that is there. And so, Kristi Noem is now the head of Homeland Security. Doug Burgum is now the head of the Interior Department. There has been something of a setback for this because this pipeline was going to go through and just confiscate people's property.

Starting point is 00:20:11 They're going to give this corporation eminent domain and let them steal the property. That has suffered some court setbacks. We'll see how long that lasts because there's a tremendous amount of money to be made in this. But again, this is an NPR story and they had an angle in it as well. In the same way that the oil companies want to push the carbon sequestration, NPR wanted to oppose it because they oppose the oil companies. And so that's the bottom line. But before we get to the bottom line, there's the issue of what actually happened and the pipeline danger.

Starting point is 00:20:51 And this is the this is a trailer for the documentary is being put out by the John Burt society released today. Stand your ground. He was a tremendous rower. Tremendous rower. What if you suddenly couldn't breathe? Get the kids in the house. I said why? He said the pipeline has exploded. And 9-11 couldn't help you? That's an 1800 foot, what they call the kill zone. That's lethal. If you're within that range, you will be killed. This is the dark truth about CO2 pipelines. One liter of liquefied carbon turns into 20 cubic yards of gas in a millisecond once it reaches the atmosphere.

Starting point is 00:21:33 And then you just have this bursting cloud of gas. Danger ground against the CO2 pipe. You translate a 9 inch into a 36 inch pipe. That kill zone is five miles. We would never be able to get people to safety in time. Unearthing. And they put that in there as UN earthing. Standyourground.watch. If you want to see that document being released today. I haven't seen it yet. I've just seen these trailers and thanks to Ryan for sending that to me. So the NPR story, written a year after this happened on February the 22nd, 2020, about

Starting point is 00:22:17 a month before the lockdown chaos, right? A clear Saturday after weeks of rain, a couple of people and their cousin decided to go fishing. They headed home when they heard a boom and saw a big white cloud shooting up into the evening sky. Burns' first thought was a pipeline explosion. He didn't know what was filling the air, but he called his mom to warn her to get inside and told her he was coming. Brown gathered her young grandchild and great-grandchildren

Starting point is 00:22:45 she was watching, took them into the back bedroom and got under a quilt with them and waited. She said, but they didn't come. She said, ten minutes, I knew they would have been here in five minutes, but they didn't come. Little did she know that her sons and nephew were just down the road in a car, unconscious, victims of a mass poisoning from carbon dioxide pipeline rupture. As the carbon dioxide moved through the rural community, more than 200 people were evacuated, at least 45 people were hospitalized. Cars stopped working because they need to have the oxygen.

Starting point is 00:23:22 It displaces that as well. Hobbling emergency response. People lay on the ground shaking, unable to breathe. First responders didn't know what was going on. Jack Willingham, emergency director, said it looked like you were going through a zombie apocalypse. And again, isn't it strange we've never heard anything about this from the media really? NPR picked it up only because they want to attack the oil industry, which they see as driving this. It's economic activities, that's a part of it. It's why the Republicans are jumping in on the side of this. I mean they should jump in and just say, all of this climate change stuff, it's just gaslighting,

Starting point is 00:24:02 it's not real, shut up, we're not going to spend the money. No, instead they come up with a scheme, their own green grift, to get the money like the Democrats. They've just got a different rationale and a different group of people. But hey, they're not going to let a business opportunity like that go. If you can make that kind of money, like Elon Musk did to become the world's richest man, you're not going to let that go. You're not going to tell people the truth. You're not going to say the Emperor's got no clothes and this whole thing is a pile of failed lies and prophecies for 55 years. You're not going to say that. You're going to exploit it, right? Three years after the CO2 poisoning from the pipeline break. This was written in 2023.

Starting point is 00:24:48 Some see the incident as a warning of a critical moment for US climate policy. The country is looking at a dramatic expansion of its CO2 pipeline network, thanks in part to billions of dollars in incentives from the Biden administration. Yeah, he saw money at everybody on both sides of this stuff. Last week the Biden administration announced $250 million for a dozen climate projects

Starting point is 00:25:18 that focus on CO2 transport and storage. So wait till you see what the Trump administration is going to do with this. Because look when it comes to the global agenda of stuff like when it comes to surveillance, global ID, global digital currency to track everybody, things about shutting down are they're all on the same page. They're all on the same page. Now, Trump will position himself as being different, and then he will come back in with things like stablecoin. I'm against CBDC. And then he comes back in with stablecoin in the background.

Starting point is 00:25:52 Whereas, I'm against all this crazy environmentalism. And then he'll come in with Doug Burgum and Kristi Noem and the summit pipeline people. He'll come in with carbon sequestration in the pipeline. And Musk is fully on board with that as well. So there's about 5300 miles of CO2 pipeline already in the US, but in the next few decades that number could grow to more than 65,000, about 12 times. 12 times. It's a big growth industry, isn't it? So the expected growth in CO2 pipelines is tied to a nationwide push for more carbon capture and storage. This is even under the Democrats, and it's going to be that with – I think it's going to be the preferred thing for the Republicans, especially because Elon Musk, as we have pointed

Starting point is 00:26:42 out, he's got a 100 million dollar prize. The winners are going to be announced today as well of this X prize for carbon capture. He began that contest the year after this happened. So this happened in 2020. He began the contest in 2021. This article was written by NPR in 2023 after Biden had pushed through this massive green chronic capitalism that's out there. NPR says the idea of sucking up carbon dioxide generated by things like power plants, cement makers, and steel factories because we don't want power plants, we don't want any cement, and we don't want any steel. So stop all that stuff, right?

Starting point is 00:27:29 And then storing it underground before it heats the planet. Fossil fuel companies, big oil, such as ExxonMobil and Chevron and their congressional allies like Joe Manchin are pushing for higher tax credits for carbon capture in the climate legislation of 2022. So that's why NPR is on it. This is the green griff that is preferred by Republicans. And of course, you look at ExxonMobil. Rex Tillerson trumps for secretary of state. When that's being floated around, I remember I was, you know,

Starting point is 00:28:09 I knew that Alex was in touch with Trump and so forth, but I wanted, you know, through Roger Stone and things like that. So I saw this stuff about Rex Tillerson. I tweeted out, you know, hey, look at this. Look at this guy. he is thoroughly into all the climate stuff. This is the guy who brought homosexuality into the Boy Scouts when he was there. I said, do you know who this guy is? I tweeted that at Alex and I tweeted that at Trump. I put a reference to them on that.

Starting point is 00:28:39 And I get this message from Alex, I'm on vacation, and I happen to see that. You know, why you tweeting that stuff at me? You know, stop doing that, you know, and I was gonna say, Alex, I'm on vacation and I happen to see that. You know, why are you tweeting that stuff at me? You know, stop doing that. You know, and all this kind of stuff. I'm like, oh, okay, well, I understand. You don't want to criticize Trump no matter what he does. I get it.

Starting point is 00:28:55 Okay. Well, you know, Trump is fooling people, make them think that he's on their side. He's always been with big climate, just like he's always been with big pharma. He gets people out there like RFK Jr. Oh, look. Oh, look, R.F.K. Jr. is going to make America healthy again. He's going to oppose the vaccines. He's going to oppose autism and everything. And then you get this, right? This is an individual tragedy as well. Autism destroys families. Yeah, it does.

Starting point is 00:29:20 More importantly, it destroys our greatest resource, which are our children. Yeah. These are children who should not be... But I can't talk about the real source should not be suffering like this but I can't talk kids who many of them were fully functional and Regressed because of some environmental exposure some environmental exposure. Oh, okay There's not vaccines at some environment something in the environment we're going to have to take a look at it. So that's why this is the misdirection, the red herrings, the limited hangouts, you name it, just flat out lies that these people operate under.

Starting point is 00:29:55 And so Trump has always been there, a big farmer, he's always been there, a big climate, and people think that he's going to fight this stuff. Now the government is on the verge of pouring over $10 billion into this technology, not a quarter of a billion, but $10 billion, through a combination of grants and loans with billions more available through tax credits. Pipelines are needed because when companies suck up carbon dioxide, they often can't store it where they capture it. So they use pipelines to send it to underground locations with the right geology for storage,

Starting point is 00:30:28 which can be states away. Problem is when you run these pipelines through certain geologies, it causes them to rupture, but we won't talk about that. Do we want to capture carbon dioxide and store it? If you do, we're going to need pipelines, says Jenkins, who is an engineering guy making money off of this stuff. Well, guess what? I don't want to capture carbon dioxide. It's natural. It needs to be out there. I don't want to capture it. So yeah, I don't need the pipelines because I don't need your lies. I don't need this lie, this narrative, this fear mongering.

Starting point is 00:31:07 People in the South and Midwest face the prospect of new pipelines in the communities and they see what happened in this town of Satartia, I guess is the name of that town, as a potential warning. The rupture occurred at 7.06 p.m. It spewed CO2 for about four hours. This is in Mississippi. The 911 center there in the county was flooded with emergency calls.

Starting point is 00:31:35 The Climate Investigations Center obtained recordings of the 911 calls and shared them with NPR. In one 911 call, a mother pleaded for help because her daughter couldn't breathe. Her hacking audible in the background. Another 911 caller stranded on the highway described what was happening to her friend. She said she's laying on the ground and shaking. She's kind of drooling out of her mouth. I don't know if she's having a seizure or not. Can you send somebody quickly? Humans always breathe some carbon dioxide, but too much causes a thirst for oxygen, disorientation,

Starting point is 00:32:09 heart malfunction, and can lead to death by asphyxiation. It can replace the oxygen. That's why the car engines are not working, or the people are collapsing. So the use of carbon dioxide to kill pigs and abattoirs is now under scrutiny over whether it complies with federal laws on humane slaughter. So is it a humane way to kill people? We'll have to see what they decide, right? Carbon dioxide in open air can disperse, but potent clouds of CO2 can sometimes hang

Starting point is 00:32:48 in the air for hours after these guys concentrate it. Quickly it became clear the cloud of carbon dioxide was hampering emergency response. Combustion engines need oxygen to work. Many cars stopped running, especially the emergency cars. Call on the highway said, I don't know what's going on. My car stopped. It won't move. We just got out of the car and started walking.

Starting point is 00:33:10 A fire coordinator, Jerry Briggs, was searching the area in a utility terrain vehicle when he and his team found the three men that we're talking about passed out on the car. And so they didn't know what was happening. They were all unconscious and had been unconscious for quite some time The good news is that they survived but they

Starting point is 00:33:32 Went home from the hospital after a few hours, but we're still struggling to breathe. They had to go back to the hospital they lived with oxygen tanks for several months They lived with oxygen tanks for several months. One of the guys says he still, his mind is still very foggy because if you deprive oxygen, it can damage your brain. He said he is still, he's unable to work, so he used to do construction work and everything. Now he's too unstable.

Starting point is 00:34:02 His hands shake, he has difficulty concentrating, and he has muscle tremors as a result of all of this. Fortunately, he did not die. Federal regulators who investigated found that pipeline operator Denbury, Inc. violated several regulations that night, including emergency response. The company's CO2 operations center detected a pressure loss immediately triggering our emergency response protocol. They said there was no injuries to local residents, our employees, our contractors, reported an association with the leak. It didn't happen. It didn't happen. It was just like the pharmaceutical companies. Nobody was harmed. Hey, if somebody gets harmed, it's rare, right? Emergency responders said that the company never alerted them.

Starting point is 00:34:46 I never heard from them, said the county emergency director. Nobody contacted us to let us know what was happening with it. The director of regulatory affairs for Summit Carbon Solutions, the big pipeline that's allied with Kristian Ohm, Doug Burgum, Donald Trump, that is constructing CO2 pipelines across the Midwest, said the incident CO2 pipelines across the Midwest said the incident speaks to problems with the pipeline operators. It's not a problem of the industry. It's that particular pipeline operator.

Starting point is 00:35:14 But the fireman who rescued those men from that car says when people in the industry say pipelines are safe, he gets frustrated. He thinks people need to understand the risks of CO2 poisoning. He said it happened. I am living proof to tell you that it happened. Maybe it hasn't happened before this event, but it did happen. People were hurt. People didn't know the pipeline was here. Something needs to change. They didn't even know it was there. And so they're planning on one particular company that works for Exxon Mobil, said that about 70% of the CO2 they're going to move is going to be gas, the rest of it is going to be liquefied CO2.

Starting point is 00:35:54 While CO2 in its supercritical liquid state is regulated by federal government, the gaseous state and other states is currently unregulated. It is odorless, just like natural gas. Unlike natural gas, they don't add any odorant to it so that you can tell that it's leaking. So I don't know, is CO2 not dangerous? It's not dangerous unless you concentrate. Anything can become dangerous and can kill you in the proper if it's concentrated enough. You know, just like we talk about fluoridation.

Starting point is 00:36:25 And I always talk about that contest where they had radio contests. It was a joke having people drink water and they're not letting them go to the bathroom and so forth. And the woman who was participating, who was the smallest individual, she's drinking the same amount as other people, she died just from having too much water. So anything can kill you in excess and what they're doing with this co2 is concentrated but it's also concentrated corruption concentrated cash and that's why this is happening. So on their side an NPR the reason they're covering this a Democrat says well okay we can handle the safety issue we think But what's really the

Starting point is 00:37:07 problem, says U.S. Representative Jared Huffman from California, a Democrat, says we really have to be concerned about this from a climate perspective as well. This entire strategy is being represented as a climate solution, when most of the time it's really not. Most of the time it's just really part of the climate problem, because it's allowing these oil companies that produce essential fuel to have an indulgence and to be allowed to continue to operate. Is this a good way to spend money to reduce emissions? Do we need to reduce emissions of CO2?

Starting point is 00:37:47 That's the question that needs to be asked. Huffman, the congressman from the Democrat from California, where he's admitting CO2 pipelines and carbon capture projects will end up extending the life of fossil fuel operations. This CO2 pipeline scheme is their lifetime. Lifeline weather, he says. So we've got to get an indulgence. And if you don't want to have something like this, just understand that the government, that's this massive grift of giant corporations and big government are going to just keep

Starting point is 00:38:18 coming and coming. This is another part of another promotional video for this John Birch Society. Stand your ground. When we had the meeting with the rep from Summit, he said to us, either you cooperate with us now, or when we get eminent domain, we'll put the pipeline wherever we want on your land. They're coming for you and your land. Trump's friends. The man leader with Summit came up to me and he said,

Starting point is 00:38:48 I'm going to tell you one thing, Suzanne, if you plan on putting the depth deeper than four feet, we will sue you, we will sue the rest of the commission, and we will sue your county. They will stop at nothing to get it. Hey, we don't want it down deep. They've been rude, They've been pushy. They've lied to us. Don't give them what they want. Their whole approach has been to intimidate people. Stand Your Ground against the CO2 Pipeline.

Starting point is 00:39:16 Again, that's going to be today from the John Burt Society. You can see that at StandYourGround.watch. StandYourGround.watch. That's an unusual extension. .watch instead of.com. But yeah, you'll be able to find it there. So, let's talk a little bit about Elon Musk and the X-Prize. The X-Files. Right? Well, we're going to do that when we come back. I'm going to take a quick break and we will be right back. Music You're listening to The David Knight Show. Well, let's talk a little bit about what Elon Musk is going to be doing. Presumably today, this contest has been running for four years, and today is supposed to be

Starting point is 00:40:42 the day that they announce the winners in this $100 million contest that Elon Musk is doing. I don't know, does he get the intellectual property rights for this after these people have done it? He's talking about how well, you know, the idea is great but you know, it's putting it, scaling it up and getting it to where that's where all the real work and capital has to go into it and everything. So you know, maybe he'll pay them off for their idea and he'll own it and then he'll develop it with government subsidies because there's not any green grift out there that

Starting point is 00:41:15 Elon Musk doesn't have his doge fingers on. Give me a break. He's going to look at government waste and everything and yet the man who became the world's richest man in history, the richest man in history, becoming rich off of this green nonsense, he's not going to take a look at these types of things. So, breakthroughs that benefit humanity. That's what the Musk Foundation is about. You're going to wind up seeing this everywhere, just like the Gates Foundation. And so in celebration of Earth Day, they kicked this thing off back in 2021. And then this is an article that was written one year after. And they had 15 milestone winning teams one year later had been awarded $1 million to recognize their efforts to date and to support their continued work to scale solutions. The overall winners will be

Starting point is 00:42:14 awarded $80 million in 2025 today. So this is the X Prize is what Elon Musk said four years ago was to fight climate change and rebalance the Earth's carbon cycle. This $100 million competition funded by Elon Musk and the Musk Foundation is the largest incentive prize in history and the X Prize carbon removal teams represent the largest collection of innovators working on carbon removal. Our goal is like basically to do something that is, you know, to have it be sort of interesting, fun, and ultimately useful and to spur creative ideas for what is actually the smartest way to take the trillions of tons of carbon that we've removed from the ground and will remove from the ground, from

Starting point is 00:43:11 deep deep underground and we've placed that carbon in the atmosphere and oceans, which obviously changes the chemical constituency of the surface of the earth. And since we know that long-term we're gonna have to have renewable energy anyway. What utter nonsense. 0.04%. Well, right now to oil and gas it's not gonna last forever. Yeah, it will. So we know where this ends up. It has to end up with renewable sustainable energy. It's tautological. It's really just a question of do we try to get there sooner or later?

Starting point is 00:43:46 And we just try to get there sooner. It's obvious. Why run the experiment? How long do you want to run this experiment? Tomorrow we've got the third astronaut launch to the station. Before we dive into the carbon removal rules and so forth. I mean, it's obviously a bit of a dichotomy because our rockets do produce carbon. And you're like, oh, what a hypocrite. Sure, no, no. He's obviously a bit of a dichotomy because our rockets do produce carbon, you know Yeah, true.

Starting point is 00:44:05 And you're like, oh, what a hypocrite. Sure, no, no. We got it. He's obviously just in for the money. No, yeah, you are. Let's talk about the crude two-minute. I feel like I should address this. Why are you being a hypocrite by launching rockets that produce carbon?

Starting point is 00:44:19 The problem is, right now, there's really no way to get around the physics of a rocket. So I think it's important for the long term. It's necessary for my stuff. Preservation and ultimately the expansion and extension of the scope and scale of consciousness and the long term probably survival of humanity. Don't breathe that CO2. We must become a multi-planet species. A multi-planet species. A multi-planet species. Well, see, rockets are necessary.

Starting point is 00:44:49 And so he gets a pass on that. Just like the private jets are necessary for all the captains of industry and the big politicians to fly around. They've got to take private jets so they can talk about how they're going to take stuff from us, right? And you heard the lies there about renewables. Well, you know, we've only got so much oil in the ground. Sooner or later, there won't be none around.

Starting point is 00:45:14 That was what they were saying with the oil crisis. That was a song from Tower of Power. But they're not interested like they were, you know, 55 years ago. They said, well, you know, alternate sources of power must be found because there's only so much oil on the ground. No, they don't want you to have power. And they want to pull CO2 out and put it in the ground and leave the oil in the ground. You know, this whole thing about peak oil was invented by the CIA. It's a CIA invention. It's a lie. It's gas lighting.

Starting point is 00:45:50 And I've shown many times the time in Newsweek stuff, the oil crisis that happened in 1979. They're both putting out stuff. We're going to be out of oil and natural gas by the mid-1980s, they said. Well, here we are 40 years later and there's even more of it. I don't think that it's coming from dinosaurs. See all of this stuff, you know, I mean even Sinclair oil used to have the dinosaur. Remember 1964 World's Fair. Now they had the all the dinosaur stuff and everything. And the CIA saying, ah all the oil comes from dinosaurs. So it's a limited supply. And you're going to have to pay us a lot to get that, right? No it's not. No it's not. It's a limited supply and you're going to pay us a lot to get that, right? No, it's not. No, it's not. It's probably just something that is coming from organic

Starting point is 00:46:31 material as it decays and gets recycled. But whatever. There's vast amounts of it. We've got more of it today than we did 40 years ago. And so all this stuff about peak oil, that's a lie from the CIA. And they laid that out there. First of all, it's limited, we're gonna run out of it, and no time at all, peak oil, all the rest of this stuff. Then they started talking about, well, what's renewable? Oh, well, renewables are wind and sun and all the rest of this stuff.

Starting point is 00:47:00 It was all just a game. It was all just semantics. So that was One year after the contest that was as a contest was kicking off then right this article was written one year afterwards They said the competition's now completely resets before the remaining 80 million dollar prize purse is awarded in 2025 today But they had more to say about the prize, Elon Musk and this other guy,

Starting point is 00:47:26 who I think is with the Musk Foundation. So, Elon, this is the largest prize ever, ever. Largest and center prize ever. And I would argue for one of the most largest of civilization scale challenges we have. Sure. And we can get into the rules in a second so that folks who are looking at creating teams can understand why we created those rules.

Starting point is 00:47:48 But why did you fund this? Let's start with the why there. It's amazing to see how he shifted. I wanted to spur ideas and thinking about the long-term need to capture carbon and you know I think this is one of those things that's gonna take a while to figure out what the right solution is and especially to figure out what what the best economics are for for co2 removal and and and all the things through all the consequences you know what the cure to be worse than the disease. Yeah. So,

Starting point is 00:48:27 Yeah, it's definitely worse. There is no disease. I'm like, that's not so easy. It's like there's no COVID pandemic. Sure, exactly. And then you got to like, okay, well, you need to get fertilizer, you're gonna water them. Where's the water gonna come from?

Starting point is 00:48:38 What habitat are you potentially destroying where the trees used to be? Trees are no solution. So the question is that, for a team to win this, so we'll talk about the prize amounts and so forth, they've got to actually build something that works and demonstrate something that can extract a thousand tons per year, a kiloton of carbon per year as a demo scale model. And the hardest thing is that the winning team has to prove to our judges that

Starting point is 00:49:04 their approach can actually scale to a gigaton level. Otherwise, it's not going to be useful. Exactly. It can't be niche. It can't be inherently niche. So let's talk about the prizes that are up for grabs. First place is going to be $50 million, which is significant. Our hope is that it's going to attract enough cognitive surplus out there to focus in on this. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:49:28 30 million split between sort of a second, third and fourth place prize, and one of the things that you and your team put forward. I wonder what that Musk Foundation guy, I wonder what he thinks of his boss today. You know, that was three years ago. You know, he was all about, oh, this is civilizational type of stuff. We've got to save the world and all the rest of stuff. What does he think? I mean, does he really believe all that stuff anyway? Is he

Starting point is 00:49:53 really that dense? Or is he just doing it for the money? If he's doing it for the money, he's fine with his boss, Elon Musk. But this is one of the reasons why these people are so upset with Elon Musk. Part of it is the Trump thing, but another part of it is that hell hath no fury like a climate alarmist who's been scorned. These people, they see Elon Musk is not only a betrayer to them politically, he was on their side. He was a hardcore leftist Democrat just a couple of years ago. Now he suddenly switched sides and he's on the side of Trump, a man that they hate. But he has betrayed them over something that these true believers think is really going

Starting point is 00:50:37 to kill everybody on the planet. And they don't realize that the people they've been following, the people who created this fake narrative, want to kill most of the people on the planet. And they've chosen the green new deal to do it. So to win the grand prize, it's going to be announced today, the teams had to demonstrate a working solution at scale of at least 1,000 tons removed per year. They had to model their costs on a scale of 1 million Tons per year and then show a pathway to achieve a scale of a gigatons per year now. I have no idea How much that is? I?

Starting point is 00:51:16 Just gotta remind you that there's not that much co2 out there in the atmosphere Is he gonna turn earth into Mars? Is it going to turn Earth into Mars? This dead, lifeless planet where the plants can't grow because they don't have any CO2? The Musk Foundation creates grants that are made in support of renewable energy research and advocacy. Grants about human space exploration and research. Grants about human space exploration and research. Grants about pediatric research. And safe artificial intelligence to benefit humanity.

Starting point is 00:51:51 Well, again, he's not going to look carefully at the rockets. As the rockets go up, as the rockets come down, it's not my concern. I'm here to get rich. But anyway, war, private jets, none of that stuff. It's going to be of any concern to Musk and his grifting cronies. On Rumble, Soylent Goy says, �Yeah, the peak oil BS argument again.� Yeah? And that was just a couple years ago. Elon Musk still making that.

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Starting point is 00:52:52 That should be at 3 eighths, but we are still really low for the month. We're coming in towards the end of the month and the gas gauge is, I don't know, we got hit with a CO2 cloud or something. I don't know, it just kind of sucked all the oxygen out of the support, I guess, maybe moving to the kick or something has sucked the oxygen out of there. As we go to break, I'll just show you this. One person said, so where was Greta when the US blew up those pipelines and released a massive amount. Now that was natural gas, but you know all gas is bad isn't it? Yeah so you know we had this massive release of all of this stuff and and that's not a problem. Not a problem

Starting point is 00:53:34 when it's war. It's not a problem when we have military jets and tanks that get gallons per mile. When we blow things up, set the planet on fire, that's not a problem No, it's only a problem if you're using it for your car. That's that's when it really is a problem Well, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back Decoding the mainstream propaganda. It's the David Knight Show. The Common Man. They created Common Core to dumb down our children. They created Common Past to track and control us.

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Starting point is 00:55:49 TheDavidNightShow.com Well, we have the climate is actually going to the dogs, or I should say the climate alarmists are going to the dogs and going to the pets. They will not leave anything alone. And it's kind of interesting that just in the last week, it was the end of the week last week, we had the story about that toddler who got lost in the wilderness there in Arizona, led to safety by a rancher's dog, an Anatolian Pyrenees. I don't know if that's different from the Great Pyrenees. I've always known that breed as the Great Pyrenees. Fantastic dogs.

Starting point is 00:56:42 I had somebody, a listener, who to give me one and I really appreciate it but we're full up with dogs right now. We've got four of them and that's a big dog and all the other dogs are in the house. But anyway, they're great for protecting livestock and also for protecting two-year-old toddlers who get lost in the woods evidently. He escorted this child seven miles through mountain lion territory and to safety according to the people who were there, the rescue workers. It was about 100 miles south of the Grand Canyon National Park.

Starting point is 00:57:21 About 5 p.m. Monday they realized the child was missing in a blue tank top and pajama bottoms. They had more than 40 rescuers out there looking for him, but it's okay. The dog had it under control. 16 hours after he went missing, rancher Scotty Dutton found him on his land seven miles away. The boy was safe and well and had apparently been led to his property by the rancher's dog, Buford." That's a great name for a...it looks like he's getting kind of old there as well. But yeah,

Starting point is 00:57:57 Buford is a very calm, collected, in charge, based, grounded, you name it, great name for a great dog like that. I got in my truck to go down to town and I saw Vuford walking down the side of the fence with a little blonde kid with him, he said. I'd heard about the missing child this morning, so I knew it was him. Dutton asked the boy if he had walked all night. He answered, no. I laid up under a tree.� The beef farmer said the boy was in good shape but upset. The rancher traced the boy�s steps,

Starting point is 00:58:29 found the dog had escorted him for at least a mile, said, �Buford normally patrols his land and wards off coyotes. He went through some rough country. It�s all mountains and canyons and boulder piles, and it�s rough for adults, let alone for two-year-old kids. He did a remarkable job to go seven miles, like he did, he said. Of the dog, he said he loves kids. I imagine he wouldn't leave him once he had found him. Well, that's what we love about dogs, isn't it? But you won't believe who the climate change nut jobs are targeting now. That's right, they've got a new villain in their sights and that is dogs.

Starting point is 00:59:05 Dogs, cats, you name it. Right? Well, what do you expect from the people who hate humans anyway? Dogs have extensive multifarious environmental impacts according to them. Excuse me. Mult multifarious, multifarious, not just nefarious but multi-nefarious stuff, right? They disturb wildlife. They keep lions from eating children, mountain lions. Polluting waterways. Do you realize that your dog is polluting waterways? And they've got a picture of a dog who is polluting the tree there with some waterways. And contributing to random emissions, I'm sorry, not random, carbon emissions, there you go. Well, you know, let's just put them on the list.

Starting point is 00:59:57 We've already got cows and cars and chickens. Now let's add, let's go to the Ds, okay? You can also put the cats in there before you leave the C's. So we got all the C's and now let's go to D for dog. We can get rid of them as well. But then on the other side of this, the mainstream media like Reuters will also warn people that climate change is going to kill the dogs. So some groups want to get rid of the dogs. Others are saying climate change is going to kill the dogs. So some groups want to get rid of the dogs, others are saying climate change is going to get rid of the dogs. So we've got to get rid of climate change to save the dogs. So it depends.

Starting point is 01:00:34 The message is malleable depending on which dupes you're talking to. So they said during a flood a dog may become separated from its owner, because you're going to have floods because of climate change, right? All the polarized caps are melting, the seas are rising. Oh, none of that is happening. None of that is happening. They were all supposed to have been melted decades ago anyway, according to their failed predictions.

Starting point is 01:01:01 So your dog in a flood might become separated or might get trapped inside rising waters or in the wildfires, floods and fires, everything, every calamity is based on CO2. So, you know, this is that side of it. Or maybe they won't die in floods and fires. Maybe they'll just die from the excessive heat. Dogs could be among the first victims of climate change, excessive panting, drooling and lethargy, from increased risk of heat stress. As the planet warms, dogs face an increased risk of heat stress, which can have dire consequences for their health. Unlike humans, dogs do not

Starting point is 01:01:52 have sweat glands all over their bodies. They primarily cool themselves through panting. Have you seen any dogs dropping dead from heat exhaustion? No. I haven't seen the birds dropping out of the air either. The wild birds. I haven't seen the birds dropping out of the air either. The wild birds have seen massive kills of that. The only kills that are happening are the US government, not the Mexican government, not the Canadian government, the governments anywhere else, just the US government killing tens of millions of chickens. But this is from the Independent in the UK. Global warming might be causing dogs to become depressed, says Pet behaviors. So there's another thing to worry about. They could be getting too hot. They could be getting too depressed. They might drown in the ensuing floods, or they might burn to death in the fires coming from climate

Starting point is 01:02:35 change. Or maybe they themselves are the problem. And I guess they deserve all that, right? Throw a dog a bean. How to reduce the carbon footprint of your pet. This is coming from the deranged climate nuts at the Guardian in the UK. Did you hear the one about the luxury aviation CEO who claims that pets cause as much carbon pollution as private jets? There you go. That's their defense. Yeah, but pets.

Starting point is 01:03:03 Yeah, don't take away my private jets. Or Elon Musk's rockets. Because you know, it's the pets that are really destroying the planet. That's what the Lux Aviation Chief Executive, Patrick Hanson, told people in Monaco. Monaco. Yeah, you know those peasants with their cats and dogs.

Starting point is 01:03:22 We need to take those things away from them as well. They can have virtual pets. They can get online and they can have virtual pets. So they said the average size dog produces 770 kilograms of CO2 emissions per year. I'm so sick and tired of hearing about this, the quantity of quote unquote carbon and how it has to be sequestered. You understand, it's where these people are now. One of the company's customers produces about 2.1 tons of CO2 a year with a private jet.

Starting point is 01:03:54 They say that's the equivalent of owning three dogs. We could have had a private jet, Travis. How did we go wrong? I guess I'll have to downsize, get rid of three and just keep one, huh? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So, throw the dogs a bean as omnivores' dogs can enjoy the equivalent of two or three vegetarian meals per week.

Starting point is 01:04:15 Wait a minute. If you give them beans, isn't that going to cause another kind of CO2 problem? Yeah. The environmental impact of pets. Working towards sustainable pet ownership. Constantly hectoring us about that. Raising a pet doesn't have to be environmentally harrowing for the planet, but you know, don't have any cows, cats, chickens, children or dogs. Just stay on the computer, listen to the news, and they'll tell you what to

Starting point is 01:04:49 panic about. So So So So You're listening to The David Knight Show. Well, Trump tweeted out on Easter, said, the golden rule of negotiating and success is that he who has the gold makes the rules. Thank you, he said. Oh. I guess he who has the fiat currency issues the fiat orders. That's not what fiat is. It's just you do what I say. It's a dictatorship thing. But

Starting point is 01:06:53 I wonder who has the gold. And I wonder why Trump is trying to kill the goose that laid the golden egg in so many different ways. Yeah, he who had the golden rule negotiating is whoever has the gold makes the rules. Well, it seems like his fiat orders are not doing too well for the markets. In a sign that investors are rotating investments away from the US dollar, Deutsche Bank said that Chinese clients have reduced some of their treasury holdings in favor of European debt. European high-quality bonds, Japanese government bonds, and gold are the potential choices for investors as alternatives to treasuries. Because Biden and then Trump have weaponized the fiat currency, and people are having reservations about the reserve status of the dollar.

Starting point is 01:07:52 Justly so. The hedge funds are selling the dollar against virtually any currencies, after National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett said on Friday that Trump is still exploring ways to remove Fed Chair Jerome Powell. Hassett then suggested that the Fed under Powell had appointed that was appointed by Trump during his first term had acted politically in order to benefit Democrats. Did you realize that the Federal Reserve is political? No, really? Who would have thought that their manipulation of financial markets would be at all political? The policy, he said, of this Federal Reserve was to raise rates the minute Trump was elected last time, to say that the supply-side tax cuts that were going to be inflationary, has it said,

Starting point is 01:08:52 Fed officials opted not to go on TV and at IMF meetings and warn about terrible inflation from the obvious runaway spending from Joe Biden. Then they cut rates right ahead of the election." Well, he's right. They did all that stuff. It is blatant political manipulation. All of it is. All the economic policies coming out of Washington. So stocks tumbled yesterday. Dollar hit three-year low as Trump bashed Powell again. The Dow fell 972 points, about two and a half percent. The broader S&P 500 fell 2.36 percent. The tech heavy Nasdaq Composite slid 2.55%. The three major indices slumped throughout the day before pulling back slightly in the afternoon.

Starting point is 01:09:32 The sell-off on Monday was widespread as nearly every company in the Dow and the S&P 500 closed lower. All three major indices are coming off of a weak in the red and are on pace for their worst month since 2022. So when stocks slump, investors usually seeking out a safe haven in the U.S. government bonds and the dollars, but not this time. Investors are selling the dollar while other safe havens like gold are soaring. The dollar has broadly weathered this year potential

Starting point is 01:10:06 signs of waning confidence in the US. The test case of US-Japan negotiations failed to reach a deal on trade and tariffs late last week." So that's what they're watching. This is a guy with a global FX strategist at Macquarie And what he's saying is that they were looking to see if the US could come to an agreement with Japan No agreement happened so that bodes ill for other countries, especially China which Trump has a great deal more animosity towards if he can't reach an agreement with Japan Then what's going to happen?

Starting point is 01:10:45 That suggests a period of bilateral negotiations that will last into July, at least, casts doubt about the willingness of the US and its allies to make bilateral concessions easily. So the sell-America trade is crushing the markets, and Trump is now butting heads with the Federal Reserve as he's butt heads with everybody else that comes anywhere around him. And now this is a new thing. This is a new tactic from the Trump administration, deciding that they're going to start charging Chinese-made supertankers.

Starting point is 01:11:21 Now it's not necessarily supertankers that are bringing stuff from China, but it's Chinese-made supert tankers. Now, it's not necessarily super tankers that are bringing stuff from China, but it's Chinese made super tankers. And so, if China pulls into a U.S. port in order to buy oil, and by the way, China does buy a great deal of oil from the United States, about 10 million barrels per day, 10 million barrels per day. Ten million barrels per day. And at about $70 a barrel, we're talking about $700 million of oil per day that the Chinese have been buying. Well, I guess we don't want them to buy anything from us.

Starting point is 01:11:59 Because if they show up with a Chinese-made ship to buy oil from us, then Trump is going to hit them with a $5.2 million fee. I mean, for that they could get a gold card and become American, right? That's what they should do. Instead of $5.2 million, I'm going to give you $5 million and I want my ship to be made an American citizen. Can I do that? And with all rights and of course,

Starting point is 01:12:26 you know, with that five million dollar gold card, you don't have to pay taxes on any income that you make outside the United States. It's a better deal than being a U.S. citizen. So I don't know, maybe they could get a gold card for these super tankers. But this is the crush everything immediately, do it now because I said so, type of approach. We're going to have a lockdown and we're not going to have any transitional period here. This is what impatient, petulant dictators do and that's what we have right now. The US is introducing fees on Chinese built vessels that come to US ports. These fees could reach up to 5.2 million dollars per large supertanker. And so just go away, buy your oil from somebody else so

Starting point is 01:13:13 we don't need your money here. This is the way a casino operator who bankrupted his casinos is going to run the country. The previous proposal was a per port entry fee of up to one and a half million dollars on Chinese built vessels and up to a million dollars per port entry fee on any vessel for operators that have any Chinese built vessels in their fleet at all. So maybe this is not a, maybe this particular vessel you bought from America, but you got some Chinese vessels in your fleet, so you're still going to get the charge. And now they're not talking about a million dollars, they're talking about $5.2 million.

Starting point is 01:13:54 The US Trade Representative, Jamie Greer, said ships and shipping are vital to American economic security and the flea-fro of commerce. Therefore, we have to shut that down." How did they come up with these non-sequiturs, right? Yeah, shipping and commerce and all that is vital. And so, you know, it's got to be U.S. ships are nothing. Okay, well, it'll be nothing then for a while. How do we dig ourselves out of this hole that he's going to throw us into? And for the smaller people, he's not even going to give you a shovel. The Trump administration's actions will begin to reverse Chinese dominance and address threats to U.S. supply chain and send a demand signal for U.S. built ships. How long is that going to take? Are they just going to make some later this

Starting point is 01:14:45 afternoon? Well in the meantime we're going to shut down any shipping to the US and so you know until these people get themselves together and they start making more American ships. What idiotic stuff. Again it's just like Biden. I want you to stop driving gasoline cars right now and you go out and get EVs. I don't care how much they cost and I don't care whether they've got range or they've got other issues. You go buy an electric car. You're not going to be driving a regular car. Well, it's the same kind of nonsense that is happening. Oil traders are booking vessels seeking some that are not built in China, trying to comply

Starting point is 01:15:28 with all this insanity. That was Bloomberg earlier this month. By the way, Ryan sent me a video about the Trump merchandise being made in China. He said that was a bootleg video. He said that they have American manufacturers of the official merchandise. But of course, that's part of the China price, isn't it? And I've talked about this many times as well. Intellectual property theft. I know, I know. It's hard to think of Trump merchandise as intellectual property. Strictly in the legal sense, okay, it's intellectual property theft.

Starting point is 01:16:08 That's a key part of the Chinese thing. Making exact copies of what other people have and selling it as authentic merchandise. But officially, the official Trump stuff, I guess the sneakers as well, I guess they probably found, does anybody still make the gold sneakers in America? Or are they having to get those from Vietnam as well? I don't know. Anyway, so what American hardline retailers are saying about the tariff fallout. What do they mean by hardline retailers? I mean big ones like BJs and Walmart and Target and Dix and Dollar General and so forth. And it's kind of interesting to see how some of them think this is going to shake out.

Starting point is 01:16:48 BJs is telling their investors that they really don't stock a lot of general merchandise like that and they said, �We kind of put the stuff in our stores, it's kind of like a treasure hunt mode. We're out there looking for something right now and we're looking for a particular deal. So we don't think it's going to affect us that much. Dick's on the other hand is saying that it's going to be good for them because they've been really high on inventory, meaning that their sales have been down. I wonder why that is. Is it because of Dick's sporting goods advocacy for gun control that

Starting point is 01:17:24 offended so many sportsmen? So now it's a feature. We've got high inventory. We were unable to sell stuff, but now we're going to be able to sell it at the existing price and it'll look like a sale price. I don't know. Then you've got Target, for example. They said, well, we're going to have to raise prices.

Starting point is 01:17:43 And we're starting to do that right now so the dollar has nosedived into a three-year low with all the tariff stuff as a matter of fact it goes no bid so dear zero hedge five things to know I'm sorry that's not zero heads Cohen coin telegraph five things to know about Bitcoin this week, said Coin Telegraph. Bitcoin is seeking a change in trend as the US trade war fuels gold records but punishes stocks and the dollars. So the Bitcoin people are saying, so is that going to punish us as well? So far Bitcoin has not done very well.

Starting point is 01:18:20 Bitcoin has not been viewed as a safe haven. But gold has. And gold has been viewed as a safe haven not just by individuals, but especially by central banks who are not out there collecting Bitcoin. Bitcoin is on its way up, they said, nearing $88,000. Took a big dive from the, what was it, $106,000, $109,000 or something that it got up to as part of the Trump euphoria. Again, Tony and I were talking about that. Tony Aarderman of Weiss Wolf Gold.

Starting point is 01:18:52 We're talking about that when everybody, oh, Trump's been elected. That's great for crypto. That's great for Bitcoin. He's gonna do a Bitcoin reserve and all that. And then people saw, well, wait a minute. Trump is just into this as a family grift. The Bitcoin reserve, he's not even talking about Bitcoin.

Starting point is 01:19:09 He's talking about some of these closely held small currencies that are really about, they're not even currencies that have been held as an asset. They're really about facilitating exchanges, things like Ripple and SOL and things like that. And so all those things combined along then with Trump's economic chaos has driven everybody to gold. That is shattering all-time highs again. The Bitcoin people are hoping that Bitcoin is going to start reacting to it. But on the financial horizon, of course, the thing that people are looking at and saying, �This looks like this might take off� is going to be stable

Starting point is 01:19:52 coins. As I said, this is going to be the back door to a global digital currency. And this is what the Trump administration wants. That's why you've got people like Howard Lutnick in there, or Lutnick, I can't remember which one it is, how you pronounce his name, but he's the king of stablecoins, of Tether, things like that. He buys treasury bills and everything. Stablecoin not only is going to push people toward crypto and it will have all of the capabilities that they want from a digital currency, full on surveillance, being able to block people from having transactions that they want, but digital currency, full-on surveillance, being able to block people from having transactions if they want.

Starting point is 01:20:27 But right now, they're talking about farmers getting the stablecoins. And why would farmers do that? Well, what they're saying is that if they want to sell into some of the markets, developing markets where they are desperate for food, like Africa, for example, they said the financial system in Africa is in shambles. It's undeveloped. There's inefficiencies. And so they said there's really high transaction cost if you want to sell food to Africa that desperately needs it. There's really high transaction costs. There's delayed cross-border payments, very high interest rates for loans. Large corporations can navigate this without a problem, but that's not the case for small

Starting point is 01:21:11 farmers. So if the small farmers start accepting payment in stablecoin, not only do they get their money back in just a matter of minutes and save a lot of fees instead of having to wait sometimes for weeks or months to get their money from these places, they get it right away. With Africa's food and agriculture market predicted to be valued at a trillion dollars by 2030, stablecoins stand to be much more than simply another financial trend for the industry. Again, they can get their money right away in just minutes, rather than in weeks or months. Stablecoins mean that farmers and traders can bypass

Starting point is 01:21:53 banking inefficiencies. They can get intermediaries out of the way. They can transact instantly with lower costs. And they can save between between 3 to 6 percent per payment as well. So it makes a lot of sense for them individually. And this is the way this is going to operate. They're going to make it more efficient to get everybody in there. In the same way that when you look at social media, why they do they made it available for free for everybody. Everybody gets into their little walled garden and all of a sudden they shut the gate. That's the way this will roll. Well, gold went above $3,400. It got up to like $3440 or something, I think, when we saw it. And Goldman sees

Starting point is 01:22:40 gold going over $4,000 an ounce by mid-2026. Well, you know, we've had in the last month, we've had three days where gold has jumped by $100 in one day and setting all kinds of new all-time record highs. I guess when they say only 4,000, they've been conservative. Remember that, you know, they were talking about, well, gold should go to $3,000 an ounce back when it was in the mid to low 2000s last fall. Should go to $3,000 an ounce in the first quarter. Then they dropped that when Trump got elected. They lowered that.

Starting point is 01:23:22 Now they're back to saying $4,000 an ounce, but in 2026. So I'm assuming that their assumption is that Trump is going to somehow stabilize his economic actions and terrorists. I frankly don't see that happening. But somehow that maybe he stabilizes everything and everybody starts to, they start to go back to normal after the Trump chaos and disruption. And then gold would level off or even fall, perhaps, that things would start to, but then it would gradually start to resume as gradual increase in value as inflation is constantly

Starting point is 01:24:02 and gradually eroding the purchasing power of the dollar. So I guess that's how they're looking at 4,002 years. Gold's recent rally up 60% since the start of 2024. It's small compared with the rally though of 1979 to 1980, which I remember. I remember when that happened. It increased at that point in time three to four fold, three to four fold. That's 300-400%, right? So, so far it's gone up 60%, but in just one year it went up three to four times back in

Starting point is 01:24:38 1979-1980. Similar factors are in play now, such as persistent inflation and stagflation as well and a rewarding of reordering of the global financial system so gold's potential is not limited said Bloomberg and as Tony Ardaban was saying last week he said yeah we're gonna start seeing some urban mining going on people gonna start selling gold jewelry and stuff well. Well, it's on. It's on now. Consumers are rushing to sell their jewelry as gold prices top $3,400 an ounce. Again, we just saw the third one-day $100 rally in the price of gold compared to the dollar. Customers are selling their damaged and unwanted jewelry,

Starting point is 01:25:26 maybe pulling out some teeth, who knows. I'm just amazed at all the stuff that I'm seeing in gold and I don't know if I would have seen it at $2,700," said one person at a store. Literally, the writing is on the wall after somebody brought me 20 gold pins that they wanted to sell. Well, the central banks, however, still turning to gold and have been turning to gold for quite some time because of the fundamental restructuring of the financial system, thanks to the actions of the professional wrestling team of Biden and Trump, their tag team operations. It's the erosion of trust, trust in the dollar, and the times are

Starting point is 01:26:09 changing. And the erosion of trust is because of the financial warfare, the bipartisan financial warfare of this tag team. So people no longer trust the US dollar. So to sum it up, as Zerohedge said, you know, gold is ripping higher with momentum accelerating and capital flowing in as the everything hedge, that is gold, shines bright. As Trump put it, he who has the gold makes the rules and right now they said gold is ruling, is writing the rules. Trump thinks he's writing the rules but there is a reality that is out there. These people can suspend reality for only so long, you know, and then it's like a Looney Tunes cartoon where the character, you know, the Wile E. Coyote runs off of the cliff and he can run for

Starting point is 01:26:58 a while until he realizes that there's nothing underneath him and then it comes crashing down. On Rumble M. Sellers literally walking my dog right now we're being environmentally friendly. There you go. On Rumble, Gondolf the Rogue says should have sold out like Alex you'd have a jet. That was a great interview with Dr. Jane Ruby David. Thank you. You know I need to do a better job of giving people links to the interviews that I've had. I had one with Derek Brose and a long-time listener, Noel, said it was a really good interview. Send that to me. I didn't see the link from Derek and I'm not sure where to put it out, but I did have an interview

Starting point is 01:27:40 with him as well and I need to start putting out some of these interviews that I have. On Kik, Angry Tiger, good to see you there and of course Angry Tiger Report, Nights of the Storms, you can see all the different places where you can find people. If you go to nightsofthestorm.com they've got like a schedule of people that are not sold out, people that will give you their honest opinion and you can find that there at Knights of the Storm. This is your TV guide for live shows, and they've got it right there. Anyway, Angry Tiger says, I've been monitoring the Dixie for two months. It is way below.

Starting point is 01:28:17 The support level is sinking like a lead gator. The fireworks industry is devastated from the tariffs. The ports are clogged up with all kinds of different items. People are cancelling orders not only in fireworks but many different goods. Wow. And it's just amazing, the chaos. We've never seen chaos like that that was imposed on us with a lockdown. Not in my lifetime. I don't think anybody ever seen anything like that. And you know, just everything

Starting point is 01:28:45 locking down, just like that, because he said so. Because he paid governors to do it. And he's doing it again. You keep voting for the same people and thinking that they're going to do different things and yet they're not. On Rumble, DGA, thank you for the tip, he says David Allen Greenspan said, he could care less about what the federal government says. The Fed doesn't listen to them. Trump is crashing the economy to bring in the reset while his cult applauds him. Dix sells $300 Nike's that cost $10 or less to manufacture.

Starting point is 01:29:22 Yeah, that was the interesting thing too. On some of these platforms like TikTok, some of the Chinese manufacturers are going, trying to go direct to the customers and saying, hey, you wanna pay $300 for that Nike plus the tariff and everything? Well, you can get it from us direct for $10. We'll sell to you. Some of them are starting to sell that way.

Starting point is 01:29:45 And even if you've got a 245% tariff markup on that, that's still a tiny fraction of the markup that Nike puts on there. On Rumble, Obermintz, thank you very much. That is so kind and helpful. Thank you very much. Says, keep up the due diligence. Thank you, appreciate that. And on Rumble, Three Little Birds says, the illegal immigrants received money on cards

Starting point is 01:30:11 from Soros. That was the prototype testing of digital currency. Yeah. And it was also showing how this is their program to do all that stuff. They were, you know, you got to stop that. It's not just the money that they get on cards from Soros, but it's also coming in they put them on welfare. Yes, universal basic income. Come on in, you know, we'll put you on the dole. Can't have enough of that. Well, that was Three Little Birds. Let's listen a little bit to Thirty Birds. I'm gonna be there You're listening to the David Knight Show. Well, welcome back. On Rumble, Sonia Lintgoy said, lockdown has wrecked a ton of small businesses.

Starting point is 01:31:52 I wonder if these terrorists will do this. Oh yeah. Oh, absolutely. You know, the people who have all these big government programs, I remember when Hillary Clinton was selling the Hillary Care thing, and people said, well, you're going to destroy small businesses. It's going to be difficult for them to make this adjustment and all the rest of the stuff. They're really struggling.

Starting point is 01:32:13 I said, I couldn't care less about undercapitalized businessmen. In other words, you've got a lot of money that you can give to me. Can you pay to play? Well, well, then fine. We'll listen to you. But if you don't have the money to bribe me, I don't really care what happens to you. And I remember when that happened. I remember the day I got fired. I was very emotional about my contempt for Trump and how he had destroyed small businesses

Starting point is 01:32:42 with the lockdown. It's like, why are people working so hard to try to keep this guy in office? He kicked people out of everything, out of their businesses and their sweat and blood and capital they poured in and it's destroyed their lives with that, kicked people out of schools, kicked people out of churches, all the rest of stuff.

Starting point is 01:33:04 And everybody wants to keep him in the White House? Good riddance. I don't care if he goes and the other guy is going to be horrible as well. But yeah, it bothered me a great deal because, as I'd said, I'd had that experience when we had a storm come through. And it was the only time that we shut down all of our businesses. We had six different stores that were scattered throughout the Triangle area. They were all shut down because we were out without any power for several days.

Starting point is 01:33:31 I mean, you have a bad snowstorm, people would find a way to get to the video store. I would find a way to get employees there. We would stay open and give them videos. But when nobody's got power, they can't watch any movies anyway. So nobody was coming in. We got power at one store. We went in. Karen and I operated it on our own. And then as everything was starting to die down

Starting point is 01:33:50 about five or six o'clock, the cops came in and told us that we had to shut down. I said, why? Well, because people are gonna come in here and they're gonna risk getting out in the weather and all this. I said, so what? I said, and you got Walmart across the street that's

Starting point is 01:34:05 opened up. You're like, are you gonna shut them down? No, we're not gonna shut down Walmart. I said, but you're gonna shut me down, right? And so I understand what that is like. You know, big guys get to play. You know, they're essential, Trump said. But if you're mom and pop, you're not essential. I've had it with that kind of stuff. I've had it with that. So they said, you're gonna consolidate more economic power into mega monopolies, buying up smaller businesses. That's right, the Wall Street guys can go.

Starting point is 01:34:34 Because they've got the money to pay to play. They can buy the politicians like Hillary and Trump. Because they were always at the same parties together. On Rumble, T Norman Artist says, manufacturers stealing small companies customers and selling direct to them contributed to the dot-com boom. Yeah, we'll see what happens with this. We really don't know where this is going to go. Like Gerald Slinty always says, you know, it's the Trump is the wild card by the way we're talking about

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Starting point is 01:35:48 experience with them. And there's a lot of people that I don't want to sell their products. I couldn't do it in good conscience, but Tony, I can. And so if you go to davidknight.gold.com, I'll take you to Tony Arderman. And as I mentioned before, if you listen to this program, you know that you can sign up for Wolfpack and you can start buying stuff on a monthly basis and gradually start to accumulate gold and silver and get out of the system. But you can also do a one-time purchase in a lot of different ways. Again, David and I.Gold will take you to Tony.

Starting point is 01:36:20 And I mentioned Gerald Slinty. If you go to TrendsJournal.comcom you can save 10% off of a subscription there. As Gerald is fond of pointing out, an entire week of non-fluff publications there at Trends Journal is less than half the price of one day of The Wall Street Journal, which is now kind of going into a fluffy USA Today entertainment, big pictures type of mode as opposed to hardcore data. Gerald focuses on the hardcore data and you can save 10% off with the code NIGHT at Trends Journal. Let's take a look at what's happening with the big tech guys. We've got Cyborg 1.0, the world's first RoboCop. Debuts with facial recognition and a 360 degree camera vision. This is

Starting point is 01:37:14 in Thailand. An authoritarian government if ever there was one anyway. So that's exactly what they need. They need an army of RoboCops, don't they? That's what we're all going to wind up getting. You talk about robots replacing human workers, let me tell you, this is where they're going to replace them with the police and the military. This will be one of the first places they do it. The RoboCop is named Police Colonel Nakhan Pafom, Plaud F Phi, they say, which means, you know, that long name, Nakhan Patham, is his name, that means that this robot is safe.

Starting point is 01:37:56 It's safe. It reminds me of, remember the movie Marathon Man? At Lawrence Olivier and Dustin Hoffman. Lawrence Olivier was this, I think he's a Nazi scientist in hiding. I forget most of the aspects of the thing, but he was a Nazi that was in hiding and they thought that Dustin Hoffman knew something. He didn't know it. They abducted him. They take him in and they start removing and pulling his teeth, making it extremely painful. And the, uh, Lars Olivier, the Nazi kept saying to him, is it safe? Is it safe?

Starting point is 01:38:31 Is it safe? I don't know. Who is it safe? And he's pulling out his teeth and he goes, it's not safe. It's not safe. Well, these Robocops are not safe. Even if they call it, uh, police colonel safe. It's not safe. The Robocop is able to detect your weapons such as knives and wooden batons and in neighboring China humanoid robots have already started

Starting point is 01:38:53 supporting police patrols. Remember when they had the video I played that for you? They had a ball that was going around and I said look at that. There's not any of the dystopian sci-fi stuff that they want to copy. I mean, it's like Rover from Patrick McGuinn's The Prisoner, The Village, right? And The Village, they had Rover. These robots have been seen engaging with pedestrians, waving and shaking hands and responding to voice commands. Right now, they're at the mode where they help little old ladies across the street,

Starting point is 01:39:24 right? Wait until they start swatting you on the street, literally, with the back of their metallic hands. And this thing runs on an open source platform. That's kind of interesting. How long do you think it'll be before somebody hacks this thing and does something with it. It allows developers worldwide to contribute to this evolution by adding new features and capabilities through secondary development. LOL. I wonder what kind of new features and capabilities some hackers might add to this thing. Last year, again, we saw the autonomous spherical robot, the rover type of thing from the prisoner. This year, again, we saw the autonomous spherical robot, the rover type of thing from the prisoner.

Starting point is 01:40:07 This year, we hopefully will be able to make about 5,000 Optimus robots," said Elon Musk. I talked about that. Talked about the fact that Chinese company wants to match him on that as well. We're technically aiming for enough parts to make 10,000 maybe 12,000, but since it's a totally new product with a totally new like everything is totally new, I'll say that we're succeeding if we get to half and then go to the 10,000. Well, we'll see. There's a lot of big talk. He was telling everybody that he had a million Cybertruck orders and we see after they did a recall of every single Cybertruck orders and we see after they did a recall of every

Starting point is 01:40:45 single Cybertruck as I mentioned yesterday that in two years they sold 50,000. So we'll see about that. The robots I think will be cheaper than a Cybertruck. Depends. Again, we don't know what it's really going to be. He said, but even the 5,000 robots, that's the size of a Roman Legion. Yeah, that's the size of a Roman legion. Yeah, that's what we want. We want Roman legions of robots marching down the street. How's that for a standing army? He said, maybe we'll have ten legions next year. I think it's kind of a cool unit, you know? Units of legions. So probably 50,000ish next year, he said. Well, I don't know if he's gonna do that or not. But of course, he's not the only one that's trying to work on that and you've also got a Chinese company that is working real hard on that and

Starting point is 01:41:35 The guy who put that company together is something of a genius based on some of his other accomplishments got a lot of Venture capital funding from the Chinese communist government because of his other accomplishments. Got a lot of venture capital funding from the Chinese communist government because of his stuff. So he may be able to do it. We look at the figure robots they've just as I played for you last week, they had a scandal. They were claiming that they had robots in the BMW factory in South Carolina that were doing a lot of work that that turns out that they weren't doing. So we don't know how much of this is hype, but unfortunately this is where they want to go. And we don't know if how soon they're going to get there, but this is the destination that they want to go and we don't want to go there. Robots run Beijing's first half marathon and people

Starting point is 01:42:19 are worried about an upcoming robot army, because everybody can see this. So, it's a half marathon and you can see the robots So it's a half marathon, and you can see the robots, and they're moving kind of slow compared to the other people that are there, to the other people, to the people that are there. One or two of them tumble over and have to be set up by their human handlers who are walking alongside them. So the people on social media are making jokes about the robot army, Terminator bots, and all the rest of stuff. But quite frankly, it's not really funny, because that is the design of the governments

Starting point is 01:42:59 who are pouring all their money in. This is the ultimate of what Eisenhower warned us about, the military industrial complex. The fact that the military was going to be taking over all these different research projects and using them as weapons against us. And that's what they're doing. Technology is no longer our friend, because technology has been taken over by the governments that are our enemies. Naughty AIs are spilling their users super personal chats on to the open web. Now in this particular article from Futurism what they're talking about is a some chat bot sites that are not safe for work. In

Starting point is 01:43:39 other words they are pornographic or something like that. And they said that they're leaking the explicit users' chat contents out into the open web and that the contents are a bit disturbing if you see them. This is according to Wired Magazine. And the security firm UpGuard has revealed that its investigations focused on 400 exposed AI services all of which were built on an open source AI protocol

Starting point is 01:44:14 and so they were able to determine that 117 IP addresses connected to these poorly built services were leaking user prompts into the digital wild. You think that, you know, what you're saying on social media is being examined by a lot of different people. You think that what you're interacting with, when you're interacting with a chatbot, you think that that is not being leaked to a lot of people. They collected nearly a thousand leaked user chats, and again this is a sex site, where they're interacting with what they call erotic chat bots. Five of these leaked site, five of these leaked chats out of the thousand centered on child

Starting point is 01:44:57 sexual abuse scenarios. Pedophiles. Now is that a problem? I've had interviewed a guy and he said, you know, they've got these dolls that, you know, they're like sex dolls but they're like children and he goes, you don't think there's anything wrong with that. That's not a real child. I said, well, what is it that you're feeding?

Starting point is 01:45:23 You know, what is that monster inside of you that you're feeding with that? And how long do you have to feed that monster before that monster gets big enough to act on it? So that's one of the things. You know, Christians always talk about that, you know. As Christians we have two different natures. Everybody does, but most people aren't paying attention to it. Christians should have the discernment to pay attention to it. Most people aren't paying attention to it. Christians should have the discernment to pay attention to it. You have your human nature, which is just animalistic. Just do whatever feels good, whatsoever, in my best advantage, and all the rest. But you also

Starting point is 01:45:54 have a spiritual nature, which is what is in the image of God. And that is what we are trying to grow. That is what we are trying to feed. Unless you do this kind of stuff. And then what you are doing is you are feeding your human nature, which is predatory, which hates other people, wants everything for itself and so forth. And when you start feeding that, you know, which are these things that are going to dominate your life? Well, it depends on which one you're feeding and which one you're starving.

Starting point is 01:46:30 That's why you need to pay attention to what you feed yourself in terms of what do you read, what do you watch, what do you listen to, what do you meditate on. Is it something that's going to feed your spiritual side or is it something that's going to feed your spiritual side, or is it something that's going to feed your animal side? And that's what the issue is with all that stuff. Well, you're talking about blow-up dolls, or you're talking about virtual stuff or whatever. That's the issue here. And now people can rationalize it and say, well, it's just virtual. I'm just talking. It's just virtual. Those images that I create, I just told it to create some images for me. That's not real kids

Starting point is 01:47:10 or whatever. That's not the issue. What you're doing is you're feeding a monster and that monster is going to take over your life, maybe take it over for eternity. So as all this is happening, as I said before, we look at what is happening with robots and all the rest of this, and it really is a military industrial complex that is at the heart of all this. And there was an interesting article on Exposé News that goes back to 2006, 2007, when people were talking about the sentient world simulation, to be able to simulate the world and have avatars that are created to model different people, different groups of

Starting point is 01:47:55 people and that type of thing, and then try to model how they're going to react to what the government does. And of course, this is a massive part of what government does. As I've talked many times, the dark winter simulation was there to war game, to simulate a public interaction, and also to train the people how they were going to do their press releases, how they're going to manipulate the public, to say that there's a pandemic, that you've all got to lock down until we've got an experimental vaccine that we're going to hit you with and all the rest of the stuff. That happened two weeks before 9-11.

Starting point is 01:48:35 And then 9-11, then the week after the anthrax attack, and then two months, I'm sorry, not two weeks, I say two months before 9-11, then two months after the anthrax attack, you had the model legislation that was sent out. And then everybody gets to practice that and get that all put in so the hammer can drop by Trump that everybody believes is not a part of the global collective and they all trust him because trust is the plan. And so anyway, that was all a simulation and they ran that for a very long time. We look at social media, same type of stuff. They are propagandizing you, they are looking at how you react to this all of the time.

Starting point is 01:49:14 Geospatial intelligence created in the 1990s as the internet was starting to become useful. That was all about anticipatory intelligence, that AI, to try to predict what people are going to do. And that's where this falls in as well. The fastest growing part of the intelligence community is the geospatial intelligence. So the sentient world simulation, this goes back again, 2006, 2007, because they've been working on this stuff, actually starting to implement and practice it in the mid-90s. And of course the ideas for doing all this stuff, the idea for the internet,

Starting point is 01:49:48 goes back to the early 1960s. J. C. R. Licklider at DARPA, a psychologist. They just didn't have the practical capabilities to start doing that until you know the end of the 90s and end of the early 2000s. And so when you look at Dark Winter, when you look at Operation Warp Speed, these are PSYOPs. That's what they're always about. So the Sentient World Simulation, this is from X-Rose News, a project developed by the

Starting point is 01:50:14 U.S. Department of Defense, and people brought you Operation Warp Speed, to create a digital copy of the real world aiming to test psychological operations and to predict human behavior. It assigns a digital avatar to every person on earth and uses data collected from their online activities to create a predictive model of each person's behavior." This is big data AI. This is why the social media sites are so precious to them. Why the fight over TikTok and all the rest of this? You know, they want, instead of fighting over the big board like Dr. Strangelove, they're fighting over the big data, which is all of you. You know, we can't let TikTok in here.

Starting point is 01:50:56 They'll see the big data, right? We got to own the TikTok. It also replicates financial institutions, utilities, media outlets, street corner shops, applying theories of economics and human psychology to predict how individuals and groups will respond to various stressors. So again, this goes back to the original paper that came out, it was in 2007, 13 years before they started Operation Warp Speed and stuff like that. But of course they began Dark Winter and all the other programs on an annual basis for a couple of decades.

Starting point is 01:51:33 It was developed at Purdue University by Dr. Ilok Chhatyurvedai. Chhatyurvedai? I don't know. I don't know where this guy, I don't even know what nationality he would be. But he's the founder of Simuleks and the co-developer of SWS. The simulation aims to achieve a one-to-one level of granularity for its simulations. However, he insisted that his goal was to have depersonalized likenesses, although government agencies and corporations could add personally identifiable information from their own databases.

Starting point is 01:52:10 It is part of a broader initiative called Synthetic Environment for Analysis and Simulations, or SEAS, as in S-E-A-S, seven C's, and they love to have these little puns like the five I's that are watching you. You know, it was initially developed to help Fortune 500 companies with strategic planning, later used for military and recruitment purposes. Of course, Palantir fits into all this kind of stuff as well. A concept paper for this was published in 2006. The program went live in 2007. These things have been around for quite some time. There is a video on YouTube that has been removed, says Exposé News, because of course anything that tells you something important they will remove.

Starting point is 01:52:56 But you can still watch it on Odyssey, Rumble, BitChute. That's why those are the sites where we are. Those are the sites that support free speech. All the rest of them will remove you when you tell people the truth about what is happening. The video, if you wanted to watch it on those sites on Odyssey, Rumble or Bitshoot, is the DARPA HiveMind Control Grid. We're feeding all of our information back into this quantum computer that has basically got a virtual world while all of us information back into this quantum computer that has basically got a virtual world,

Starting point is 01:53:25 while all of us have a digital avatar in there. Well, I don't know if they've got a quantum computer yet, or not, but they're working on that. They're able to manipulate the digital avatar in a virtual world that's actually translated into effects in the real world. A kind of MKUltra in the 21st century. you know, it's psychological operations. The claim is that there's a digital simulation of every person on earth, but as Exposé News points out, you've got to understand that, you know, roughly a third of the world doesn't have access to the internet, so they can't know anything about them. But they're not worried about that part of the world. They're worried about the western part of the world.

Starting point is 01:54:03 But they are addressing that, you know, they're rolling Skylink out so that they can get everybody in the world online and start analyzing everybody. Because all of it is a big data trap. It's all about getting information about you, about looking at you personally, about modeling you as a group. Geospatial intelligence is about being able to discern people's politics and their religion and all the rest of the stuff and going back to the 1970s you had the big new Brzezinski saying well in the coming technocratic age we're gonna know better than you what you're

Starting point is 01:54:37 going to do. We're gonna be able to predict your behavior and we'll be able to control and to block that behavior as well. So as I say in this most importantly, SWS will never be able to collect data on or simulate or influence our spiritual lives. See, that's the issue, right? We don't have to despair about this stuff. It's not hopeless. Now, for the people who only want to live their life referencing their animal

Starting point is 01:55:08 nature, it is a big problem for them. These people like B.F. Skinner have spent a lot of time modeling and manipulating us in terms of our animal nature. And they can do that very effectively. Positive operant conditioning, you know. B.S. Skinner could train pretty much any animal to do anything he wanted to do with positive operant conditioning. And of course, they can also add some negative in there as well. But the positive is really important, just like we're talking about stable coins, right?

Starting point is 01:55:37 Rather than going out and dictating to somebody, you will do this. That's the Joe Biden Democrat approach. They use negative operant conditioning. You will take the vaccine or you'll lose your job. The Republican approach is if you take the vaccine you might win a million dollar lottery prize. You know that's what DeWine and Vivek Rama Slimy were doing in Ohio. That's the positive operant conditioning. Or you could say to the

Starting point is 01:56:04 farmers, well look you know stable coin which is going to be a way that we can bring the digital global currency in the back door, that's going to allow you to skip all these fees and to get paid instantly and all the rest of this stuff. So they do the positive operant conditioning. How do we see this as Christians? How do we navigate in this? Well, we have to understand that our weapons are mighty. We have something that is far stronger than that. And there's absolutely no way that if we're grounded in the Lord Jesus Christ, these people

Starting point is 01:56:39 are going to be able to manipulate us. They just can't do it. Because we don't live for this world. You can offer all the positive or negative conditioning that you want, but you're not going to change a Christian who is grounded in the Lord Jesus Christ. And that's the way you escape this. We're not people of this world. We're just pilgrims that are here.

Starting point is 01:57:01 The kingdom of God is within you. And if the Lord Jesus Christ is your King, you have freedom and dignity that they want to take away from everybody else. You are not here strictly as an animal to be manipulated by DARPA or by B.F. Skinner or by these behavioral psychologists. You can transcend that. Because again, the Christ Kingdom is not of this world. And if Christ is within you, if God is within you, that makes all the difference in the world. And that's one of the reasons why they have to identify us by religion. Because that's the way that we're going

Starting point is 01:57:42 to fight them. This is a spiritual war if ever there was one. These people in the CIA and DARPA are allied with the darkest of satanic forces. There's absolutely no doubt about that. If you look at what they do, their occultic stuff, their drugs, all of it is as dark as it gets. These people are fully on satanic. They're capable of anything. When you look at Epstein, right? Epstein, is he CIA or is he Mossad? You know, I saw a debate about that

Starting point is 01:58:14 on one of these other things. It's like, what difference does it make? There's no difference between those different groups. You know, they're just different thugs, but they operate exactly the same way. And so you want to be able to get out of that system. On Rumble, MAV 2022, Jesus overcame this world. That's right.

Starting point is 01:58:33 Absolutely right. Well, we're going to take a quick break. Do we have our guests today? Yeah? Okay. Well, we'll take a quick break and we'll come back and do a little bit more. I want to talk a little bit about Klaus Schwab, who has just departed us. Not exactly.

Starting point is 01:58:49 He's still alive. He's just not at the World Economic Forum in the speaking role, I guess. But we'll be right back. Here's a little song I wrote You might want to hear it in your pot You'll owe nothing and be happy Ain't got no cash, ain't got no car But 24 booster shots in your arm Oh nothing, be happy You can't even buy s**t in the store Because of your low social credit score Oh nothing, be happy

Starting point is 01:59:49 Be happy. You will own nothing. And be happy. Be happy and eat the bugs. They're doing what in the place they named after me? Good thing I have the David Knight show to keep me informed on the plots of these traders. Making sense common again. This is the David Knight show. Well, Herr Claus, as Ursula von der Leyen refers to him, has stepped down from the World Economic Forum as chair. He's been there for 55 years, since 1970. The Geneva-based institution has announced earlier this month that Schwab would be stepping down without indicating a time frame. He's 87.

Starting point is 02:00:37 He says, following my recent announcement and as I entered my 88th year, I decided to step down for the position of chair and as member of the Board of Trustees with immediate effect he said yesterday. And so, actually not yesterday, it was on the 20th, it was on Sunday. So he did not do this in reaction to his friend the Pope dying, but they're both the same age. They have quite a bit they're both the same age. They have quite a bit in common, actually, besides their age. The World Economic Forum board said in a statement that it had accepted Schwab's resignation

Starting point is 02:01:14 at an extraordinary meeting that was held April the 20th. Though they did it all at once. I wonder if he's having some health issues. I don't know. Vice Chairman Peter Brabeck-Lietmoth will become the new interim chairman. And so it remains to be seen whether he can speak like a Bonvillain or not. Klaus Schwab. I hate to see him leave because he's been infinitely entertaining with his Nazi speech. But as he leaves this, there was an interesting...we've got our guest. I'm gonna go to James Bovard here. But it's kind of interesting to see how the

Starting point is 02:01:50 Pope, who also died at about the same age, how much they had in common, their utter contempt for humanity, even though you've got a lot of people out there who are trying to say nice things about this Pope. From the very beginning, it was clear, you know, when you look at his emphasis, you know, the old joke is the Pope Catholic, that is, you know, LifeSite News, which is Catholic, had a long list of places where he is opposed to Catholicism. But of course his real passion was globalism. His real compassion, his real passion was climate alarmism and all the rest of this stuff. One of the first things that he did was to do this statement, his climate encyclical, which he had a Vatican scientific group who knew.

Starting point is 02:02:38 But the guy that he had writing this stuff was John Schulenberger, if I remember his name correctly. But he was on record as one of the most radical depopulationists that were out there. So it is kind of amazing to see this. The old guard is being changed out, but the new guys are coming in. A lot of people tried to make excuses years ago as the great reset was coming in. They said, well, you know, yeah, it looks like the Pope is fully on board with Klaus Schwab in the World Economic Forum with taking everything away from everybody but he the difference is that

Starting point is 02:03:15 unlike Klaus Schwab the Pope's vision is anchored in God's grace. Well if you believe that I've got a Brooklyn Bridge. It's okay. Totalitarian social control is just fine, and it's the perfect remedy for any crisis. And if somebody is the Pope or if they're Donald Trump, you can forget about holding them accountable for what they push out. We're going to take a quick break, and we will be right back with our guest, James Bovard, who has something to say that I think you're going to take a quick break and we will be right back with our guest James Bovard who has something to say that I think you're going to find really interesting.

Starting point is 02:03:49 He's had a great op-ed piece on Mises.org about the lead up since we had the 250th anniversary on Friday and Saturday of Paul Revere's ride in Concord and Lexington. He's got a great story to put things in a real context. So we're going to take a quick break and we will be right back. Unlike most revolutions where the people rise against a real economic oppression, in our case here in Boston we are fighting for purely an abstract principle. It is however not nearly so abstract as the young gentleman supposes. The issue involved here is one of monopoly. Hey!

Starting point is 02:04:28 Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!

Starting point is 02:04:32 Hey! Today, the British government will monopolize the sale of tea in our country. Tomorrow, it will be something else. Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Yeah! liberty. Liberty, it's your move. You're listening to the David Knight Show.

Starting point is 02:05:35 All right, and joining us now is James Bovard, and you can find his writing, his links to where he writes, because he's published all over the place. He's got a piece on Mises.org that we're going to talk about here that's excellent in historical context. I think you're going to find it fascinating. But you can find him at jimbovard.com because like I said, he's published all different places all the time. Great to have you on, Jim.

Starting point is 02:06:01 Thank you so much. David, thanks for having me back on. It's always very entertaining to talk to you. And I covered this a little bit yesterday, about the 250th anniversary of Concord and Lexington and Paul Revere's ride and everything that happened this last weekend. But you put this in an excellent historical context. And so, I wanted to go through some of that. And you talk about, you began by talking about Arthur Schlesinger. I remember this guy. He's like the prototypical fighting whitey guy. Oh yeah, we got some rascals here. I remember him.

Starting point is 02:06:32 We got rascals. Yeah, yeah. And he was, you know, he'd always have that pipe there, you know, and he was like the, you know, the Mr. Wasp guy of the CIA or whatever out there. What was it, what was his attitude towards 1776, the American Revolution? Well, I mean, he had the same attitude that King George III had, so basically a bunch of uppity peasants. There was a line that he had a few, I guess, 20 years ago before he pegged out. He said, historians today conclude that the colonists were driven to revolt in 1776 because of a false conviction that they faced a British conspiracy to destroy their freedom.

Starting point is 02:07:13 And you have to get rid of so much evidence in order to say it was a false conviction. It's kind of like, yeah, like the government was shooting blanks at Waco, you know, whatever. I saw somebody that had an op-ed piece, Jim, that said tariffs are what American freedom is based on. It's like, what? I think tariffs were kind of what they were fighting, don't you, at that point in time? I mean, it was just taxes, right? When they said, you know, no taxation without representation, they were talking about tariffs,

Starting point is 02:07:44 weren't they? Well, I mean, tariffs were part of it. Tariffs were a major, you know, it wasn't just a tariff. It was a blockade. Yeah. I mean, because it wasn't like that they had to pay 10% more for the shoes that they imported from India. It was more like that the Brits were prohibiting them

Starting point is 02:08:05 from making any kind of iron type goods, nails and stuff like that. And they were just completely subjugated on the trade issue. That was a major issue in the Declaration of Independence. A lot of people, that's not too convenient to remember at this moment, but it was. But there were so many ways that the British were so abusive and

Starting point is 02:08:25 um, uh, contemptuous of Americans. And, um, it took a lot to get those farmers to get up early in the morning, get their gun and go out and start shooting the British soldiers as they were running back from Concord to Boston. And as you point out, there were pretty good shots too. Uh, you had a, I had a quote of it. The British soldiers. Yeah. I mean, the British soldiers, there were pretty good shots too. You had a quote in it. I like the British soldiers. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:08:47 I mean the British soldiers, there was a wonderful line from his story almost a hundred years ago. He said the British soldiers were the worst shots in the world and they would not be able to hit a horse at ten yards. Well, you know, that's something I imagine in those days there were, you know, not everybody had, they were shooting muskets and things like that, and not necessarily accurate rifles. I mean, we saw that in the Civil War. You know, these people line up and, you know, once the first volley went off, there was

Starting point is 02:09:13 nothing but a white cloud anyway. You couldn't see anything to even try to target anybody for the most part. And so, you know, it's just like, you know, loading fire as rapidly as you can and hope that you hit something, you know, load and fire as rapidly as you can and hope that you hit something, you know? They did have sharpshooters that were operative both in the Civil War and in the Revolutionary War, and it was those sharpshooters that really took a toll on the British, right? Yeah, it was the Daniel Morgan's men

Starting point is 02:09:37 from the Winchester, Virginia area were famous for that. I think at Saratoga, they shot down a lot of their British officers. But there was a whole mindset, okay, a lot of the Americans did have Muscas like the British, but I mean, it's a different incentive system. If you're a government soldier, then you need to shoot close enough for government work. Whereas if you're a farmer and you're counting on your hunting and you need to be able to hit the damn deer you shoot at, you need to hit it. And the same way you've got a guy with a red coat there marching down the street, you know,

Starting point is 02:10:12 okay, that's not too hard to hit. So that's right. Yeah, their ammunition is deer and when they're going out to try to get the deer, so they've got to make every shot count. They've had a lot of practice of that. As you point out, you had a great quote here. He said, the colonists revolted because they were being bayoneted down the road to Serfdom, you know, going back to the Hayek.

Starting point is 02:10:33 And that's exactly what was happening. As you point out, it was the taxes, it was the tariffs. And I've come across a lot of people like Arthur Schlesinger. He used to take the kids when they were younger to Colonial Williamsburg, which is a Rockefeller thing. So they'd hire a lot of people to try to downplay the American Revolution, you know, and they would always say, so why did they push back against this? You know, and they wanted me to say, no taxation without representation, I would say, because taxation is theft. And they would go, well, no, not really. And it's like, well, no, really really it is, you know And then they give you their pat answer about what they want to do

Starting point is 02:11:07 but yeah, they'd kind of try to downplay it and they would try to you know, try to We work the image of the British a little bit there as well without being Without pushing down the Americans too much. It's been a long time since I've been there. I mentioned it It's probably pretty bad pretty bad now. That was back in the 90s. Yeah, that was in the 90s. Yeah, it's probably gotten a lot worse, like same as Monticello. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:11:32 I mean, that's a social justice tour at this point. Oh yeah. Yeah, we took him once. One year we were up in Plymouth Rock for Thanksgiving. And I couldn't believe how politically correct all of that stuff was. We did that about a decade after we'd been going to Colonial Williamsburg and it's like,

Starting point is 02:11:51 oh, this is crazy. It's just this self-flagellating parade of beating themselves up. It was crazy. But still, we could go and we could see the ships. I guess it was worth it for that maybe you know yeah I mean it's the same trouble with historical narratives in general when I was I was up in Boston some two summers ago and I was curious because I had not been not knocked

Starting point is 02:12:18 around Boston for quite a while I used to live there and I wanted to see how they were portraying the history, especially the American Revolution. And it was very much, it's almost a myopic focus on the plight of the slaves. And the slaves were of course badly treated. And Massachusetts was one of the states, well the first states to get rid of slavery.

Starting point is 02:12:41 But it was, you know, it was the same same puzzle I had when I went to Richmond a few years ago. And I'd gone to Richmond quite a bit as a boy. I was a big enthusiast for the Civil War. And they had Civil War museums then and now, but nowadays the museums seem to focus mostly on the plight of women and slaves during the Civil War. And I was thinking, well, actually there were also some battles.

Starting point is 02:13:06 You know, I'm archaic. What can I say? Yeah, that's right. That's what the, up at Plymouth Rock, you know, it was all about the Indians. And what they really kind of sloughed over was the fact that the Indians and the pilgrims got along pretty well for a couple of decades or a couple of generations until they started having a King-Phillips war and that type of thing. But they wanted to ignore that. But getting back to your op-ed piece here and the lead-up to what caused all this, you

Starting point is 02:13:34 talked about the Sugar Act of 1764. Tell us a little bit about that and what that was involved in. Okay, so basically what the British did with the trade laws and regulations was make it clear that Americans were completely inferior to the British. And this Sugar Act of 1764 resulted in British officials confiscating hundreds of American ships based on mere allegations that the ship owners

Starting point is 02:14:03 or captains were involved in smuggling. Once a British official made that charge, it was up to the ship owner to somehow prove his ship had never been involved in smuggling. It was very difficult to prove a negative. I mean, this is kind of the same thing we have now with asset forfeiture law. They've been so vexatious for the last 40 years. But the philosophical,

Starting point is 02:14:28 I mean, what so many of the histories of the American Revolution do is ignore the philosophical aspects. And the Americans back then could see the broader picture better than they do now. There was an act that Parliament passed in 1766, the Declaratory Act of 1766. It said Parliament had, had, and have right, ought to have full power and authority to make laws and statutes of sufficient force to bind the colonies and people of America subject of the crown of Britain in all cases whatsoever. That meant Britain could never violate the rights of Americans because Americans had no right. And something I did not realize until I was digging into this, writing this story was it was modeled after an act of the same title that the Brits had used on Ireland

Starting point is 02:15:23 50 years earlier. Really? And the British were notorious for treating the Irish as bad or worse than slaves. Yeah, oh yeah. Well, you know, what you do is you start out by saying that this class of people is somehow inferior, subhuman. They're not really human. You know, you look at this and you can see this being repeated in Gaza or wherever, but also, as you point out, it's very much like civil asset forfeiture.

Starting point is 02:15:50 I think that this ship was involved in smuggling. And you just take it. You don't have to, I guess, I don't know if they would charge the people with crime or they'd just steal the ship. That's what they do today with civil asset forfeiture. They just take your property and they never even charge you with a crime, let alone convict you of that. It saves paperwork. Yeah, absolutely. You know, it kind of reminded me too when I saw that. I thought it was funny,

Starting point is 02:16:14 you know, we had the Declaration of Independence came exactly ten years later, and it was a real response to this declaratory act, I guess, because the declaratory act is saying you don't have any rights, and they said, no, we do. And our rights don't come from government. They come from God. We have them innately as a human being. And so it was a direct response a decade later to this declaratory act. And I thought back, you know, to one of movies that I had watched as a kid that I really liked because I liked Patrick McGee and I loved The Prisoner.

Starting point is 02:16:45 And I remember the scarecrow thing that was done by Disney at the time, because Walt Disney used to take a positive view of American history and of Americans. And so – It's a long time ago. That was a long time ago. Things really changed, haven't they? And so it was in that one, he's got this cleric, their pastor whatever his title was, and he moonlights as the scarecrow that's doing smuggling. And so these guys are smuggling and it's all presented as justified and the British are

Starting point is 02:17:19 the villains and everything. And it's kind of interesting because they also show the press gangs that were going around and kidnapping people and putting them into service. And of course, that was a big part of what was happening at this time as well. They had press gangs that were coming after Americans, not just after British. Yeah, and that was part of what sparked the War of 1812, decades later. No, I mean there was an attitude of complete contempt for anybody who wasn't part of the aristocracy or didn't have this title or was friends of this person. And that was part of the novelty of the mindset of the government that was created in I, I guess, 1787. It did not have

Starting point is 02:18:08 that aristocracy. It did not have those legal privileges. I mean, the federal government claimed them pretty quick. It made a mockery of a lot of the ideas, but still, at the start, it was good. Yeah, yeah. You mentioned them too, and it was pretty much a universal attitude of contempt by the British. There were some exceptions, like William Pitt, you've got a quote here, it is forbidden to make even a nail for a horseshoe. He was liked by Americans because he kind of leaned toward the American side. I was talking about it yesterday in North Carolina, one of the oldest towns there is

Starting point is 02:18:38 named after him, Pittsburgh, and it's in the community Chatham County, which is, you know, it was Lord Chatham and everything. So, it seemed like he was held in high esteem by them, but he did push back against King George to some degree, I guess, perhaps. Not enough, but he did. Yeah, and the same with Edmund Burke, one of the, a member of parliament who later became a well-known philosopher and writer. I mean, there were a lot of radical Whigs in England who recognized that it was important to stand up to stop oppression in the colonies because the same precedents would echo back home eventually. Yes, yes.

Starting point is 02:19:19 And, you know, we look at all this, and at the time, you know, of course, the slave trade was still going. And that did not, that was not ended, you know, Wilbur, Wilbur Forrest, I don't forget what time he started opposing it, but eventually he stopped the slave trade and then he stopped, you know, freed the slaves, they paid off the plantation owners and the, and the Caribbean that were under them. But you know, they had that attitude, as you point out, this attitude they had about slavery. That wasn't just about African slaves.

Starting point is 02:19:48 That was the attitude they had towards Irishmen. That was the attitude they had towards Americans at that time as well. Yeah. Yeah. And it was, I mean, this is something that's hard for a lot of contemporary Americans to understand because they have this notion, they are looking backward and not recognizing how profoundly different the legal and moral atmosphere was back in those times

Starting point is 02:20:13 and the absolute swagger of the British. I mean, in my dealings with government agents, I've often come across ones that had vast swagger and I can understand how that would breed hatred and eventually if they rubbed too many noses in the dirt it would lead to a violent revolt and that's happened throughout history. But also so much racism based on skin color they just equally hated everybody right? Well yeah. Dominated everybody. It was, I mean, it was people who were inferior and Americans were inferior to British, especially

Starting point is 02:20:51 to the British officials appointed by the Crown or the British military officers or even the British customs officials who had a right to go into anybody's house and search to see if they had any property that they had not paid a tariff on. Maybe, you know, I don't, hopefully this doesn't give anybody in Washington ideas right now. But this is, this is, I mean, it was the wits of assistance, which the government would give its soldiers or others, and title them to break into anybody's house, search all their papers, search this, search that. I mean it was almost as bad as the NSA. Yeah that's right because that's what they're doing all the time whether you realize it or not. They're breaking into your house and they're

Starting point is 02:21:35 looking through your papers and your private effects by going into your computer. I've talked about that. People say we don't have a violation of the Third Amendment. It's like, do you realize what the government is doing with your computer? They're actually living in your house whether you realize it or not, they're living there with you. You just don't see them.

Starting point is 02:21:53 They're there virtually, which perhaps is even worse, I guess. Yeah, which is, I mean, but it's just good that they're there to protect us from ourselves. Isn't that great? Yeah, I feel so much safer knowing that they're in my house watching everything that I'm doing. You talk a little bit about John Locke and of course his second treatise on government

Starting point is 02:22:13 predated this stuff by about a century. But that really was a big part of the philosophical foundation. These are people who are not watching Gilligan's Island. They were reading books, they were talking to other people who had read books, and they're debating these ideas and forming these ideas. There was a full century of, you know, Lockean philosophy that was underlying their pushback, right? Yeah, and there were some wonderful lines from Lockean,

Starting point is 02:22:41 one of which resonated with the colonists was, he who attempts to get another man into his absolute power does thereby put himself into a state of war with him. Yes. And if you look at that 1776 act by Parliament, that's, you know, basically proclaiming it's an act of war, that you're just, that since you have no rights, and another one of my favorite John Locke quotes, "'I have no reason to suppose that he who would take away "'my liberty would not when he had me in his power "'take away everything else.'"

Starting point is 02:23:18 And- Was he around, it sounds like he's describing 2020. Well, yeah. Lockdown, I think. Yeah. But – He saw into the future like Basta Damis. You know, you could see 2020 in the lockdown. But what we're talking about here is human nature. And that's one of the reasons why it's important to go back and to look at, you know, the understanding

Starting point is 02:23:43 of the nature of tyranny and the zero-sum game here about who's gonna make decisions about my life Yeah, it's important for us to understand that because all these attitudes as you point out you run into a vicious Arrogant bureaucrats all the time we all do and and so it's important to understand how human nature plays into this and it's important to Understand that we have these same types of problems. I run into people all the time who say, �Well, you know, that was back then.� We're not at all like them. We're so much more advanced. I had one guy saying, �Thomas Jefferson, he didn't know anything. He wouldn't even be able to drive a car.� I was like, �Are you kidding me?� You know, so there's that kind of an attitude towards, you know, they don't know anything because they didn't have televisions, you know, and it's like, �Well know, they don't know anything because they

Starting point is 02:24:25 didn't have televisions, you know, and it's like, well, maybe they knew a lot more because they didn't have televisions. So, you know, there's this kind of, the people in the past didn't know anything, but human nature doesn't change. And that's why it's so timeless to see the types of things that Locke said, the way the government was trying to impose its authority on the Americans and how they pushed back against it. Yeah, and what people don't realize, okay, so Thomas Jefferson was not able to drive a Corvette,

Starting point is 02:24:52 and he didn't have a television, but there has not been that much change in the nature of politicians and the nature of tyranny. And so you still have, I mean, folks were saying, well, things are different now. Okay, how would you judge the moral and intellectual caliber of the average member of Congress right now? Okay, versus 200 years ago. I mean, I don't see much improvement, okay?

Starting point is 02:25:19 They might get a little better. They might have some, okay, they got a law degree, they got this, they got that, but they're still weasels. And it's kind of like, okay, so, and they're still untrustworthy. And that was one of the wonderful things the founding fathers recognized. Thomas Jefferson was very eloquent on that. Don't trust any man with power. I mean it goes back to the 1798, was it the Kentucky resolution? Yeah. I think you might have that the the key quotes on that closer to your memory than I do. Yeah because I was just talking about the you know the I see all this stuff that Trump is doing in terms of shutting down

Starting point is 02:26:00 free speech on campus and about kicking people out summarily and everything. I say this is like a reenactment of the Alien and Sedition Act. This is history repeating itself, a rhyming at the very least, isn't it? Yeah, and there were good, part of the lucid and eloquent nature of Jefferson's resolutions and the same with Madison was that they recognized how danger power was once it's off a leash Yeah, and and it's frustrating to me because hell I've been arguing that my whole damn career And I was talking to a foreign gentleman a couple days ago, and he said well looks like America's had some trouble last couple years Yeah, well, things especially

Starting point is 02:26:46 got worse after 9-11. Because, I mean, that was, you know, 9-11 turned into a grant of power to the ruling class. Yes. And they'd never given that back. That's right, yeah. Forget about declaring wars anymore. We have this authorization for the use of military forces.

Starting point is 02:27:04 Gives us a blank check to do anything that we wish. And of course we can do anything we wish domestically as well as they're rolling out the TSA and the real ID and all the rest of this stuff. We're going to start enforcing that next month. But you know, one of the things too I think that is really key is the fact that the people in Washington now are setting on such an amazing pot of gold, or actually a giant stack of fiat currency. But that is –

Starting point is 02:27:30 Yeah, yeah, I was wondering where this was going to go. That is such a corrupting thing. When you look at the amount of money that is there – and I always talk about the astronomical amounts that are being contributed to all of these campaigns. I mean, even a congressman, you know, the amount of money that they're getting. I said that is a direct metric of the level of corruption, and that is the amount of money that these people from presidents to congressmen and even local officials are getting when they run for office.

Starting point is 02:27:59 I said, you know, this is not a charitable thing. People are making investments in these guys. So that is a direct metric of corruption when you look at the amount of money that's donated in these political campaigns. Well, yeah, and it's funny, if you go back 200 years, 1700s I guess, a lot in Britain, there was a lot of concern there about the ministers and the government giving so many bribes to members of parliament to buy their support. And the same thing is happening now

Starting point is 02:28:31 with federal grants to a certain district to get that congressman's vote, this promise, that promise. And the whole idea that the government can become that big and that out of control, and you can somehow keep it honest, yeah, that's a real triumph of hope over experience. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 02:28:52 Getting back to the T, and getting back to the tariffs on it, you know, the fact – you mentioned this, the fact that not only would they confiscate ships, but they would also invade people's homes and use this arbitrary power to search everything that they had there. When you look at the response to it, one of the things I thought was interesting was, and I wanted to ask you about this because I didn't have time to look it up, you say Vermont Patriots marched in 1775 against the British Army under a flag depicting a pine tree.

Starting point is 02:29:25 Is that the appeal to heaven flag that we see all the time? Or is that different? I think it is. I'm not sure. I mean, I had not made that connection, but I think you're right. Yeah. But what you say is tell people why it was about the pine tree and why that was such a sticking point.

Starting point is 02:29:41 Yeah. So pine was an excellent material for building ships and Parliament banned cutting down any white pine trees, claiming every pine tree in the colonies for the British crown without compensation. In 1846 historian Jonathan Seawall wrote that the conflict with Britain began in the Forest of Maine in the contest of her lumbermen with a king surveyor as to the right to cut in the property in white pine trees. Back in 1926 his story Robert Albion said the royal interpretation of private property

Starting point is 02:30:16 practically rendered that term nougatory so the pines were virtually being commandeered by the Navy. They were especially good for the ship's mass. Well, you know, it's kind of interesting because we keep seeing these same types of themes coming around. I remember when Brexit was circulating around, one of the big griefs that the British had who wanted to leave the EU was they said, we've been fishing these waters for millennia, and now the EU is telling us how many fish we can take out of our own waters here. So it kind of came back to the British, but it's always about, isn't about Britain versus

Starting point is 02:30:50 every other country, it's about the nature of power. And so it's always going to come back that way. But I see parallels in that to a lot of this environmental, this aspect of the globalist and the environmentalism where we're gonna tell you how much you know resources you can consume We're gonna track your carbon footprint. You're not going to own anything. We're going to the C40 Coalition says well, we're gonna measure all the meat that you have and the dairy that you have until we just completely cut it off It's amazing to see this kind of stuff, and yet we see this throughout history. This is always, again, going back to what we just said, it's always a condition of the human nature.

Starting point is 02:31:32 It's always a condition of power, how power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. We keep seeing this repeated over and over again, and yet people today don't seem to get the picture. They're so focused on the pines. Today they would just focus on the trees and they wouldn't understand the general principle that was there, but the people in America understood the general principle. Yeah, well, I mean those pine trees were such a powerful symbol basically because it did

Starting point is 02:32:03 capture the total expropriation of property rights. Those pine trees were some of the most valuable properties up in New England. So, but you know, if you had them you were out of luck. So, it's a long tradition in Britain where they would say, you know, going back to Robin Hood stories and stuff, you can't go hunting unless we tell you that you can go hunting. Everything belongs to us, right? And we'll tell you what you can have. You own nothing, and you'll be happier. Well, yeah, I mean, Britain's got – England has a long history of that,

Starting point is 02:32:32 and that's part of the reason that my ancestors and your ancestors probably came in this direction centuries ago. So mine were kicked out of France first, but that's a different story. Thank God they were kicked out of France, but that's another story. Well, I'd love to hear that, but yeah, if you want to tell us anything, why were they kicked out of France? Because they were Protestants. Oh, okay, you can answer.

Starting point is 02:32:59 My ancestors, according to family lore, a number of them were living in Paris in 1572, and like about half of them were killed in the St. Bartholomew Day's massacre when the king and the pope tried to kill all the Protestants. And the survivors fled over to England and got their feet on the ground there. It's funny, I've been watching Wolf Hall, the PBS BBC series on Thomas Cromwell. And Cromwell's a hell of a rascal, but thanks to him perhaps, my ancestors could find refuge in England.

Starting point is 02:33:34 So yeah. Yeah, interesting. Interesting. I had not heard of that program. I have to look it up and see that. That might be interesting. Yeah, it is. And when you look at liberty, religious liberty was so intertwined

Starting point is 02:33:45 with everything, and we see it in our First Amendment. If you tell people, if you're going to try to control what people believe and control them at a very, very fundamental level, that's controlling their speech, and it's policing their beliefs and all the rest of this stuff. And of course, that had been done quite a bit, and it had been done because they would have a close connection between these organized religions and the organized government. And so if you started to move in a different direction, that was a threat to them politically as well.

Starting point is 02:34:17 So we see that's why they're intertwined, I think, in the First Amendment. That had been the long history that people had seen, that kind of symbiotic relationship there between established church and a government that was there. But it is really the impetus for so many people coming here. I don't know my background exactly. My uncle looked it up at one point in time, but yeah, I came from England and been here longer than I can imagine. But I've never looked it up myself to get the information. But yeah. Yeah, there's a simple thumbnail which I use to explain how my family moved eventually got here. I mean, my family was kicked out of France because the French were biased against Protestants and they were kicked out of Ireland because the Irish were prejudice against horse thieves

Starting point is 02:35:09 That's good talk a little bit about the firearms of course because the Second Amendment is a big part of this as well Yeah, well, I mean this here again. This is something which so many people try to downplay, but the you know the the major shootings started when the British tried to seize the gunpowder and cannons and firearms there in Concord. And of course the British screwed it up. There was a funny detail, a friend sent me some details on Concord that I wasn't aware of April, you know So the first shooting was in Lexington British shot down a number of paid militiamen It's unclear who shot first, but the British fired a volley and left eight or ten dead on the on the field there

Starting point is 02:35:58 then the British came to Concord and The British soldiers were just a damn ornery that they were grabbing people in the town and forcing them to fix them breakfast. Really? This is a great PR gesture, you know, and as I said to my friend, you know, British soldiers didn't realize it was their last supper because hundreds of them got shot down as they fled back to the Boston. Because what happened was that the British had overwhelmed, greatly outnumbered the men who showed up in Lexington. By the time they got to Concord, they were burning some various things around town.

Starting point is 02:36:39 A lot of the local militiamen had retreated outside of town. Then they came back to the North Bridge. There was a firefight there. The British took off running. And then the British eventually started to retreat back to Boston. But they had a lot of company along the way that was just picking them off

Starting point is 02:36:58 almost every step of the road. Yeah, it's kind of- They almost got captured, so I'm sorry, go ahead. An early example of asymmetric warfare, wasn't it? We never learned the lesson as Americans, you would think we had learned the lesson of asymmetric warfare, yet we have enacted the role of the British over and over again in my lifetime, haven't we? That is true.

Starting point is 02:37:19 And it's, I mean, you know, part of the lesson is don't piss off farmers with guns. Yeah, that's right. But the British weren't that smart. And then it was interesting how it played out because two months later, a bunch of militia folks had come together and they seized Bunker Hill and Breed Hill and the British decided to teach them a lesson by putting their bright red coats, some of their finest troops, and marching them up the hill. And the American soldiers just rose up and fired repeated volleys into that and broke

Starting point is 02:37:53 the British assault twice and then they finally ran out of ammunition, mostly retreated. But the American sharpshooters shot down, killed or wounded, badly wounded every British officer on the field as well as a third of the British troops. And that was a devastating blow against the British. They had a pyrrhic victory as their generals said, but that they could not afford any more such victories. And my understanding is that the British Army at that point was that the soldiers were basically, the enlisted men were maybe a little bit better than dogs, maybe treated worse than dogs,

Starting point is 02:38:32 but they were very subservient to the officers. And once the officers got shot, they were kind of like, you know, what do we do next? Is that your impression? I read an interesting book. I actually took a course on British history when I transferred – I changed majors. I transferred to different colleges and changed majors and they made me take a bunch of core curriculum over and over again. So I said, all right, I'm going to take a course on British history. And one of the most interesting books I read was The Reason Why. And it was about Lord Cardigan. What a pompous idiot he was. But he became the hero of the poem, right?

Starting point is 02:39:06 The thin red line and ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do or die and all the rest is... And it was just this comedy of errors. And you know, I don't know whether the people that were with him knew what to do, but he certainly didn't know what to do. But he became a war hero out of the Crimean War and I always remembered that. And so I thought it was pretty funny and as the Ukraine stuff was starting up about three years ago and the head of the British military said well we beat the Russians in Crimea before we'll beat them again and I thought okay well why were the Russians in Crimea when you guys fought them a couple hundred years ago right

Starting point is 02:39:43 because that was their territory. But anyway, that's another story. Going back to 1854, wasn't there a famous line in the Tennyson poem that got suppressed, some damn fool blundered? Maybe. Seriously. It's been a while since I read that one. It's been, let's see, about 50 years ago since I read that

Starting point is 02:40:06 book, so that might have escaped my attention. I don't know. It was kind of focused on Lord Cardigan and what an idiot. And he was so beloved that when he came back, he had this personal affectation of sweaters. And so everybody started copying his sweaters, and that's where the Cardigan sweater comes from, right? Because he became a hero, but he didn't really know what he was doing. He had bought his commission because he was wealthy.

Starting point is 02:40:30 He wasn't trained, you know, he was just, he bought his way into that thing, and he kind of took off on his own. So it was an interesting book. I don't know, I mean, I've only read the one book on it, so the guy might have skewed it to his political viewpoint, but it certainly was interesting. No, it sounded like cardigan deserved to be thrashed. Yeah, exactly.

Starting point is 02:40:52 Or keel-hauled, you know? Keel-hauled, there you go. That's a nice English tradition. Yeah. Drag from one end of the boat to the other, from stern to – from bow to stern or whatever, vice versa. Yeah, but you know, we have people that are very much like this kind of arrogance today. We have, we've heard a whole string of Democrat politicians when it comes to the second amendment. You think that's going

Starting point is 02:41:14 to help you? Well, you know, Swalwell and Beto O'Rourke and Joe Biden also, we've got a military and we can, you know, your guns don't mean anything, you know, and I've always heard that when I would talk to reporters when I was with the Libertarian Party that say, well, you know, your guns don't mean anything, you know, and I've always heard that when I would talk to reporters when I was with the Libertarian Party that say, well, you think you can stop the government? It's like, yeah. I mean, it's like asymmetric warfare. I said, it's like mutually assured destruction.

Starting point is 02:41:37 You certainly don't want it, okay? But it is a country where firearms are in the hands of the people. It is like mutually assured destruction. Certainly, you know, nobody but a fool, nobody but somebody like Eric Swalwell or Beto O'Rourke or Joe Biden would ever broach that idea, but that's what it would turn out to be.

Starting point is 02:41:55 It would be just a horrific situation, but we don't have a good track record on asymmetric war. No, but I mean, going going back the idea of using firearms to defend against an oppressive government, I was in the mountains of North Carolina taking a vacation with my wife at that point just before 9-11 and I pulled up in front of this country store and this big old bald guy comes out and says, what part part of Maryland you from? And I said, well, I'm from Rockville.

Starting point is 02:42:28 And he started chatting me up real much. He was too friendly, something was wrong. And then he finally said he thought I was an undercover federal agent. And I was thinking, where in hell in life did I go wrong? The people were suspecting me of being an undercover federal agent. So I said, well, why do you think that?

Starting point is 02:42:46 I said, well, you're driving a black car and you've got a Maryland license plate. I said, ah, you don't miss a trick, do you? I said, are there any other signs? He said, yeah, these federal, these undercover agents have got GPS tracking devices underneath the back of their car. I said, do you want to take a look under my car?

Starting point is 02:43:02 Yeah, I want to do that. So he did that. He didn't find anything, then he shook my hand. He was frowning. The reason I mention this is because the reason he suspected me was that two years earlier the FBI had flooded that area. There were hundreds of FBI agents going around because that was the area where Eric Rudolph was thought to be hiding. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And the FBI came in there, the FBI announced

Starting point is 02:43:27 they were setting their best and brightest and they would find him in no time. FBI would show up at motels, they'd throw everybody out, FBI's taken over, they'd throw people out of restaurants, and pretty soon nobody would work with the FBI. Everybody distrusted them. And the FBI didn't find anything. And the reason I mention this is that the FBI. Everybody distrusted them and the FBI didn't find anything. And the reason I mentioned this is that the you know the FBI thinks it's got all this

Starting point is 02:43:50 authority but you know you go in the mountains of western North Carolina you piss people off you got no authority. That's right. Not only that but if you think of something I mean you three words, the Barrett sniper rifle, two miles, armor, two mile range, armor piercing, you know. Yeah, yeah. You know, you are insane. And what is it in there, in North Carolina? It's a sense of community.

Starting point is 02:44:12 A sense of community that a lot of the people with the FBI who are living in an urban area where nobody knows anybody, right, they don't think about that. You know, everybody is divided, nobody is connected with each other, they're not sharing the stories of what is happening. And so it's easier for them to go into a situation like that and to dominate everybody rather than to go into a community where everybody knows everybody else. Well, and not only that, but you should not make mountain people angry. I mean, this is something you guys should have learned in Afghanistan that the point you were making was that people

Starting point is 02:44:48 are still saying that, Joe Biden was still saying this, after August 2021 when the government in Kabul collapsed and the Americans fled, I mean, you know, the Taliban did not have any major artillery. They didn't have tanks. They just had AK-47s and other weapons. Yeah, yeah. You mentioned in your op-ed piece here the declaration of the causes and necessity of taking up arms.

Starting point is 02:45:20 And I see that that was in July 6, 1775, is about a year before the Declaration of Independence. Thomas, it wasn't Thomas Jefferson's first rodeo to write the Declaration of Independence. He was co-author on this with a guy named John Dickinson. I don't know anything about John Dickinson. Tell us a little bit about, do you know anything about John Dickinson? I know a little bit. He was very eloquent. He had a very good line, you know, eight, seven years earlier, in which he said that the crucial question in colonists' mind is not what evil has actually attended specific majors, but what evil is likely to attend them.

Starting point is 02:46:01 So seeing the British actions as warning signs. Dickinson, I think he was from Pennsylvania. I don't know if he supported the Declaration of Independence. I think he might have resisted that. But I might be mistaken on that. But he was one of the best pamphleteers. Okay, not in the same class as Thomas Paine, but nobody was. But so this is a very interesting, you know, to read that declaration on taking up arms a few weeks after Bunker Hill, it's fascinating stuff. It's bracing and it focused a lot more on Parliament as a source of evil than on King George. Hmm.

Starting point is 02:46:43 That's interesting. So we have the Declaratory Act of what's called 1775 where they say basically you don't have any rights. Ten years later they have their Declaration of Independence where they say, no, we do have rights. As human beings we have rights. But the year before that Declaration of Independence comes out, and it's after the Bunker Hill stuff, you have the decoration of the causes and the necessity of taking up arms.

Starting point is 02:47:07 And so we see this stuff kind of rolling out. And as you look back, it came out in kind of a logical sequence of building, didn't it? Yeah. Well, it was important to go step by step because even as of 1775, I don't know what percentage of Americans were ready to have a clean break with Britain I think Thomas Paine's pamphlets helped a great deal on that cause but and

Starting point is 02:47:34 It was important to frame the issues in a philosophical way which is part of the reason that I was using the John Locke quotes here because this This is the prism through which the founders were seeing British action and it was not everything in isolation. It was more like, okay, you know, there's it's more like a snowball going downhill. How much further are we going to let the British go? And at some point, I mean, so there was, there was the, after the battle of Bunker Hill, you had the British commander in Boston, General Gage, basically wanted to make it treason for anyone who failed to turn in their firearms to the British and just to leave

Starting point is 02:48:17 the Americans in complete abject dependence on their British rulers. You know, the British never had a chance to impose that, though they did that in some cities that they controlled. But that was how much power the British wanted. And that's why it was so important to assume the worst of people that were trying to get absolute power over you. Yeah. And that's why we see this founder saying over and over again, no free man will ever

Starting point is 02:48:47 be disbarred the use of guns and that type of thing. They understood that that was going to be the linchpin of their freedom, but they also understood that the pen was mightier than the sword in many respects. They had to through a series of – It's good to have both. Yeah, exactly. You've got to have both of them in tandem. And so they built over a period of time, they built this philosophical understanding of the nature of government, the nature of

Starting point is 02:49:10 men, the abuse of power and all the rest of this stuff, so they could see where this was going. And so you point out that, you know, you got quotes from John Dickinson that, you know, it's the crucial question is not what evil was actually attended to a particular measure, but what evil was likely to attend them in the future. In other words, how are they going to build on this thing? This is just the thin end of the wedge, you know, and we understand that as well. You know, many times we will look at the principles involved, and I keep going back to what I consider so far to be the worst despotism I've lived under,

Starting point is 02:49:45 and that is what happened in 2020. You look at this and it's like, okay, so how else are they going to use this? And since people in America just kind of walked away, you know, at some point it's like, okay, I don't really believe this pandemic is going to kill me, what, I'm going to stop wearing the mask and stop doing this, and that people just stopped complying gradually. Now that's great. Some places, yeah. Yeah, and some places, yeah, some places are still, they're still tied up and not mask and to stop doing this and that people just stopped complying gradually. Now that's great. Some places, yeah.

Starting point is 02:50:06 Yeah, and some places, yeah, some places they're still tied up in knots and wearing masks. I still see that occasionally. But you know, for the most part they just kind of stopped playing the game. But they didn't go back and say, you know, we've got to make sure that never happens again and we've got to hold these people accountable for what they did to us. And that's what I see missing in America today is that sense of understanding, the sense that people are like,

Starting point is 02:50:28 oh, okay, well, that was awful. Now that's over with. No, it's not over with. It's not over with if you leave these people without any accountability, is it? Yeah, well, there are so many precedents from the COVID crackdowns and the lockdowns and the mandates, and most of many precedents from the COVID crackdowns and the lockdowns and the mandates.

Starting point is 02:50:46 And most of these precedents have not been banished or thrown out of the law books or their regulations. And to see how far that the government lied. This is coming out a little bit with the exposing the lab leak, the coverup of the lab leak. But there was a story I did, I guess, January 21st on- See, I even think, let me give you my theory on this, Jim.

Starting point is 02:51:12 Because I even think that the stuff about the lab leak, I think that's an alibi. I think they're putting that out there to say, we did our best, but when we were up against it, everybody was going to die, so we had to lock you down we had to vaccinate you with an untested genetic code injection. We had to do all this kind of stuff because hey we had this thing out there and I think that that does two things not only does it hold them harmless but I think that this this

Starting point is 02:51:37 lab leak narrative that's being put out there you got to ask yourself I think why you now have the establishment hanging on this so heavily when they wanted to suppress that. They want everybody to believe this is an organic thing that's running wild. Now they've got a lot of different motives for pushing that. And I think one of the motives is that, hey, we may have to do it again. You know, we'll come up again and this time, the next time we'll do a little bit differently. Maybe we'll lock you down harder next time because, you know, the first time it didn't work a little bit differently. Maybe we'll lock you down harder next time, because the first time it didn't work,

Starting point is 02:52:07 and I've already seen a lot of people talking about this. So I'm very suspicious about that. I'm a real cynic when it comes to viruses and pandemics, and I'm a real cynic when it comes to government. When you start putting these two things together, my BS alarms start ringing off the wall. Well, that's understandable. I mean, the one key for the lab leak theory to me is how it was suppressed was that if people had recognized early on that the COVID

Starting point is 02:52:38 was financed by their tax dollars in a reckless way in China and then it got out of the lab by accident or otherwise, it would have been far more difficult for politicians to promenade as saviors. Oh yeah, that's true. And for any government to do the same. That's why they had to suppress it at the beginning, yeah. You know, when it started in December, I remember looking it up and I heard this stuff about bat soup and all this, I said, wait a minute.

Starting point is 02:53:02 Then I saw that the only class of bio-level safety four lab in China was in Wuhan, right there at that spot. I said, oh okay, well maybe it is something that's real. What convinced me otherwise was seeing the fake videos of people falling down the street. I mean you've seen those. I was just, I've, they need to take some lessons from some stuntmen in Hollywood if they want to take a fall. It was the fakest looking stuff I've ever seen in my life. And I've been in China and I know when they showed the crowded hospitals and everything it's like, that's the way it is normally. It's not necessarily a different thing.

Starting point is 02:53:36 So it's kind of crowded chaos as the standard operating procedure in most of these places in China anyway. So I got really skeptical about it but the thing that was real nail in all of that narrative for me was dark winter, you know, and again, tied in with 9-11, you know, just two months before 9-11 and then they have the anthrax attack a week later and then they put out the model legislation and practiced it for 20 years. So, you know, I looked at all that stuff and I didn't believe a bit of it. And I had talked about the danger of these biosafety level labs and gain of function experiments and everything. Back in 2014, there was an excellent series of articles that were done by USA Today and

Starting point is 02:54:18 a reporter there, her name was Allison, I can't remember her last name, but she talked about how there's hundreds of these labs in the United States typically attached to universities and the bad safety record that they had. You know, they're playing with diseases and they're playing with diseased animals and they're getting exposed to stuff themselves. The diseased animals are escaping the lab and all this other kind of stuff. So it had credibility with me at the beginning, but I just, I got to the point where I didn't believe any of this stuff. Well, I mean, there were so many false statements.

Starting point is 02:54:50 Yeah. And it was, a lot of it was concerted. So, I mean, I was tiring the edge of cynicism myself. Yeah. And you look at what is happening now, you know, when you, in this case of this guy that gets sent to El Salvador. I read your op-ed piece talking about the op-ed writer who just gets whisked off of the street and had done nothing other than expressing her political opinion that was not,

Starting point is 02:55:21 that the government did not like her expressing. But you know, when you look at the situation that's going on with this Garcia guy, there's some issues there, but they're manufacturing stuff. You know, and that's a key thing. When they start manufacturing evidence, they start spinning stuff that wasn't there before. When they say they made a mistake and then they come back and they say, no, we didn't make a mistake. And look, he's got MS-13 written on his knuckles. And they don't

Starting point is 02:55:42 annotate it. They show you a Photoshopped picture of it. They're putting stuff out there like that. It really does undermine it. They can't help themselves. I mean, they've got to go the extra, they've got to keep adding stuff to it. They can't just leave it at one particular thing. And that's the key. When we look at what happened with the tyranny of the British and everything,

Starting point is 02:56:06 it was really about executive orders and that's really the way that Trump wants to operate. He wants to declare an emergency and then he's free to do whatever he wants. And every problem that he sees, whether it's economic, whether it's about immigration, or whether it's about, you know, a so-called pandemic or anything, it's all about I declare an emergency now I can do whatever I want to do, isn't it? It certainly worked out well in the past. Yeah. You know, I'd like the quote that you end up your op-ed piece with here. You say

Starting point is 02:56:36 that they understood that in defining a tyrant, it's not necessary to prove that he's a cannibal. Yes, I love that line. That was from a Virginia Senator, John Taylor, who was a cavalry officer for George Washington during the revolution. And he actually wrote several books of political philosophy. He did a wonderful book on trade and protectionism called Tyranny Unmasked. I think that's where that book came, that quote came from. But there were just, I mean, it's a different writing style that people had back then. And I saw that line and I was just infinitely charmed by it.

Starting point is 02:57:18 It was great. Yeah, I love that. Because it is, you know, somebody doesn't have to be thoroughly bad. In other words, a cannibal, right? It's just, you know, this one aspect here, they can go down that road, and that's why we have to look at what people do that are in power. We look at it as a case-by-case basis, and yet that isn't the case today. The case today is that people who are caught up in this left-right paradigm, the Democrats, Republicans, they will have to make a cannibal out of their enemy, right? It can be nothing good than that person, right?

Starting point is 02:57:50 Yeah, and it ties into what Thomas Macaulay said about how people in his early 1800s were viewing Charles I, the king, the steward king who was very oppressive, but Thomas Macaulay said that people in his time were viewing him well because he had a really nice beard. It must have been better than yours or mine. It was honorary to Tyrant. I remember when I saw that line, what came to mind about it, doesn't have to prove that he's a cannibal. It made me think of Gilbert and Sullivan's Pirates of Penzance.

Starting point is 02:58:30 There's a policeman's lot is not a happy one. They said when a felon's not engaged in his employment, when he's not engaged, otherwise engaged in crime or whatever, he loves his little innocent enjoyment, just as great as any honest man, that type of thing. So it's like, yeah, these guys, it's difficult as a cop, because we see that these guys, they're human after all. And so we have to hammer these guys, even though we see their humanity. They don't have to be a cannibal in order for the police to be able to pull them up, I guess, but it still bothered them somewhat, and their conscience are in the imagination

Starting point is 02:59:09 of Gilbert and Sullivan, I guess. They were kind of outside the establishment themselves. I was going to say the imagination. I mean, most of the police I've known, you know, they didn't lose too much sleep over that. That's right. Yeah, that was the police, as Gilbert and Sullivan would like to see them, you know, kinder, gentler police force that was there.

Starting point is 02:59:25 Of course it was also- The Cora 54 police. That's right. Yeah, where are you? It's always great talking to you, Jim. Thank you so much. And the website is jimbovard.com where people can find your latest- Thanks so much for having me on.

Starting point is 02:59:39 Thanks for, it was great to share some insights and some laughs here on a Tuesday morning in these dire political times. That's right. And it's always great to go back and look at history and see how things are really not changed all that much. Thank you so much, Jim. Have a good day. Thanks.

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