The David Knight Show - Tue Episode #2326: The Establishment Is Building Its Own Opposition
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Of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
It's the David Knight Show.
As the clock strikes 13, it's Tuesday, the 11th of August.
You're of our Lord, 2006.
Today we've got a busy day.
We have Dr. Shiva Ayadourey.
He's going to be joining us live in the second hour.
And one of the reasons I went to get him on is because he's running as an independent candidate.
We have Tucker Carlson talking about a new party, a manifest,
What does it take to have a third party?
How is the election rigged?
Yes, it is rigged not only from start to finish, from ballot access to debates to counting the votes.
And the GOP is just as guilty of it as anyone.
But we're going to take a look at the Trump executive order to change the child vaccine schedule.
What does it do and what does it not do?
We'll take a look at that and an update on the FLOC data center,
police surveillance state. There's now a partisan move to try to split the bipartisan opposition
to these things. Across the board, everybody opposes these. So we've now got people saying,
well, it's these other people, these radicals on the other side, they don't like these things,
so you should liken them and defend them. That's the game that they're going to play with you.
We'll be right back. As a matter of fact, I've seen, if you go to the internet and you search,
You'll find one article after the other.
The right likes or opposes the data centers or the left is against the data centers and blah, blah, blah,
always there to try to fire up the divide and conquer Hegelian dialectic to make sure that,
hey, well, you know, if these guys on the left of the Democrat, socialists don't like it for whatever their reasons are,
then it must be a good thing.
And I mean, seriously, they're doing that type of thing.
It's happening more on the right with that, but the left will look at it.
say, well, we've got a Georgia activist, one-time flight attendant who cut her teeth during the Tea Party wave.
She joined the Maga movement.
She helped organize January the 6th.
So maybe she's one of those crazy conservative radicals that was there on getting to January the 6th, right?
That's the way they part out.
And then say, now she has started a new group active in 37 states against data centers, had 18 rallies on one Saturday.
Most of those in 37 rallies and 18 of them were in Texas.
But then you look at the right side, and this is the sun, the New York Sun,
the left's crusade against data centers threatens the future of our digital economy.
If people actually visit these facilities, they'll be astounded by the jaw-dropping technological wizardry that lies within.
Maybe this person has never seen Jurassic Park doesn't understand why Michael Crichton wrote that.
Just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should do it.
And you should always take a look at how these wizardry tools are going to be used.
And then on the other side, we've also seen that anger over data centers is fueling a new political movement.
This is coming from Politico, and they're championing the fact that leftist here in Tennessee,
Justin Pearson, who was one of the Tennessee three, remember he had three legislators who disrupted the Tennessee legislature,
shut it down with protests, bringing in people.
they were leading the protest.
Well, he is a radical leftist.
However, he's also become, as they point out,
one of the loudest voices amid a growing national backlash
against pollution and the politics of America's AI buildout.
And so when you look at this,
I've just got to say to the right,
don't lose this opportunity.
If Republicans are going to push back against this
because you got some high-profile Democrat socialists,
don't abandon this popular issue to them.
It is a bipartisan issue.
We do not want a police surveillance state.
We do not want to have these powerful tools in the hands of government, any government.
You should never put these tools in the hands of the police and just hope that they're not going to abuse them.
They will abuse them.
That's human nature.
You will always find people in the system that will abuse it.
And there is no way to police the police in this.
You know, we just had primaries here in Tennessee.
And he had the three GOP candidates.
And two of them, the one who won, Marsha Blackburn, absolutely wrong on all of these issues, on flock, on data centers, on everything else.
And so was the second place runner, who was a congressman running.
Monty Fritz got it right, but Monty Fritz did not make this an issue.
I couldn't even get him to give me a formal statement.
And so I had to infer from it, you know, from other statements that he had where he was on these issues.
And he's exactly in the right place, but he wouldn't talk about it.
However, the two Democrat candidates for governor, both of them were aggressively opposing these things.
And for the right reasons.
And they had policies in place to say, here's how we stop this.
We're going to let town councils have non-disclosure agreements with companies to keep this stuff hidden.
So all of a sudden, boom, what's this thing over here?
Oh, well, we've already approved that a couple of years ago.
And now it's under construction.
You can't stop it.
You know, when you look at Marsha Blackburn,
It's almost comical what she did.
There is a meme that you'll see on social media.
And when person bits up, well, China was by far and away, the leader in the police state.
So America says, hold my beer.
We're going to catch up to that.
How hard am I going to crack down on China?
Well, on China?
Marsha Blackburn worked with President Trump to take on communist China.
As governor, Marsha will fight to protect Tennessee land from Chinese front companies.
close who pulls and hunt down every communist who tries to defy us.
It doesn't take a fortune cookie to figure it out.
Here in Tennessee, we're going to stop communist China and protect Tennessee land.
Yeah, we're going to become communist China.
She wants to put everything in that they have done to control their own citizens.
Going to beat China by becoming more like them.
We can't have a tyranny gap.
Yeah, that's right.
Well, Justin Pearson is over in Memphis.
And in the area where he is, they point out, you know, he's got a painting up on his wall.
And it is a dystopian picture of an orange skyline American flag in the, in front of it,
and a person wearing a gas mask while reading the Bible and a stack of books that includes George Orwell's 1984.
And there you see the picture there, right?
And so he's in a situation, an area there where there's 10-minute drive to Elon Musk.
Colossus 1 data center, a 15-minute drive to the southeast to Colossus 2, and an army of 69
methane gas turbines located just over the state line of Mississippi that currently powers a
supercomputing hub, with most of these without any pollution controls typical of those required by
federal rules.
So what's going on with this?
This is Elon Musk, who became the world's richest man by profiting off-forces.
of this green
McGuffin, right? The climate
McGuffin. And his greenwashed profits
that are there now, he doesn't, not even
subject to federal regulations
on pollution, let alone
emissions and heat generation,
which is what these people have complained
about for years. So bottom line is don't
let this bipartisan
opposition to the police
surveillance state. Don't allow them
to make this a partisan issue.
get you to cheer what is happening with this.
And a lot of this, as I said, much of it is coming from the right because people who are
conservatives typically have a predisposition to the police.
They want law and order.
The problem is, who's going to follow the law?
When they don't have a law, when they said that you don't have any due process, when they
take away your constitutional rights of Fourth Amendment, what does it mean to be law and order?
And they also, you know, play the game with them, oh, we've got to,
have AI there because if we don't have it, the Chinese will have it, and they'll have an
advantage over us. Well, they're using AI for different things other than military. They may
repurpose it for the military. Nevertheless, their cost, when you just look at it from a business
standpoint, their costs are 1% of Anthropic, which is the leading engine out there. And so,
are you going to pay 100 times more if you're in business to get something from an American
company rather than getting it from a Chinese company? I don't think so. What happens, said the Iowa
rep that I talked to last week since Iowa State rep. So what happens when they go out of business?
Because, you know, their cost factors are 100 times more. Some of the others are not quite as
expensive as anthropic. But what happens when you have this blight of these data centers where they
have lost their business? Because that's going to happen down the road. Not every one of these companies
is going to survive. Think about that. So the problem is it's always been a bias
towards for conservatives to support business against any regulation. And it's always been a bias
to support the police because you want law and order. But you need to be wise about that.
Not every business should be unregulated. Pharmaceuticals are one, for example, right?
Why do they have legal immunity against any damage that they do to children of all people?
Right. And so there are some things that we need to have government protect our life and our liberty and our property from. And so don't have a knee-jerk reflex to this stuff. Let me just recap what we talked about yesterday over the weekend. We had this massive traffic stop, a very dangerous stop. They thought they had somebody that was wanted for murder. You had a lot of police cars boxed in this car, created a massive traffic jam that was up near Milwaukee, I think.
it was. But here's the rest of the story, as you've heard in the past. This woman was actually
flocked and arrested twice in just a couple of days. It was a false arrest in both cases.
Now to a Foxx exclusive scary moments on the interstate as guns are drawn on a woman
near Brookfield. Brookfield, police say they thought they were pulling over a murder suspect yesterday.
Turns out it was a mistake by another department with the flock license plate reader technology.
Ben Hansen spoke with the woman seen on video who says,
this isn't the first time this happened to her this week.
Like, where can we go?
Like, it was just a whole lot.
Amber Newell is still shaking up from Thursday.
I haven't been to sleep since this happened.
Every time I closed my eyes, all I can see is guns.
When Brookfield police surrounded her car on 994, drew their guns,
and told her to come out with her.
hands up. Can you imagine?
I wanted to call her so bad yesterday, but I'm like, if I make a sudden move, it's going to be
over. It's going to end my life. Friday, we learned Newell did nothing wrong. It was very embarrassing
because while they put after they put us to Cubs, they walked us to the car. I'm not knowing what's
going on. I'm scared. All you see is people in their car is recorded. Milwaukee police say they
accidentally didn't remove the alert previously placed on her vehicle in the flight camera system.
At one point, the vehicle was suspected of being tied to a homicide.
Eventually, Milwaukee police were no longer interested in the vehicle.
But the department didn't cancel that alert.
So when Brookfield police saw the vehicle on a flight camera, they responded.
Brookfield's chief says his officers did nothing wrong.
Something they say was you contact Milwaukee Police Department.
It's their fault.
That's all they kept saying was it's their fault.
It's not our fault.
It's their fault.
MPD declined an interview.
Newell says last Monday, the same thing happened when Milwaukee police pulled her over.
with guns drawn. She says officers never explained why towed her car and let her go. Newell says
she's still scared to drive her car and her daughter is too. My daughter keeps asking Mama,
is the police going to get us? She don't want to ride in the car tomorrow because she don't know if the
police going to pull us over and do it again. Now she's hoping for an explanation and an apology.
I'm really mad at walking MPD because y'all felt, y'all felt the system. Y'all felt me. Y'all felt
everybody like y'all. I'm traumatized now.
In Milwaukee, Ben Hanson, Foxx 6 News.
And of course, that's one example. I could just make a show how to play these examples.
Another one, which is also very egregious. I mean, when you got somebody's a murder suspect
and everybody's got their guns drawn, they are on a hair trigger. And she pointed out
it was a very dangerous situation. They could have shot her very easily. There was another case,
which I did not, there's a video of it. I'm not going to play it for you. But there was a guy
who he was reported that he had a stolen car.
Now, in this particular case, they're saying that, well, it's a human error because these guys
were supposed to take her license plate that had been put in out of the database they left it in,
and so Flock did its job.
Well, in this other case, Flock did not do its job.
It misread the license plate and flagged the car.
It got one of the characters wrong.
It was off by one.
The police pull over, guns drawn again because they think this is a stolen car.
They get the father and the mother and the one.
year old child all out of the car they arrest the father and they put him in the car and lock him up and
the mom's like what's going on what's it can't get any answers and then eventually figure out what
it's happening and then you say sorry about that drive off this is this is why we do not want to have this
stuff i mean people are going to get somebody's going to get killed over this kind of stuff and so when you
talk about privacy is it something that the flock CEO believes himself is important
Well, look at this report.
After surveilling the CEO of Flock for three days, my private investigator found three separate cars, three separate routes, and three different plates.
If the man who made his fortune recording your license plate changes his own every day to preserve his privacy, then what does that tell you about the value of privacy itself?
The reality is the evidence that Flock prevents crime is non-existent.
Cities that have been covered in Flock cameras saw the same crime redact.
as cities with none because crime fell nationwide everywhere at the same time.
Flock simply stood in front of a falling curve it didn't cause and called it proof.
Like the back scenes.
Graph is trying to tell us.
So it's from the Council on Criminal Justice.
It's from 2021 through 2025 and it's for homicides.
So this is a crime index.
It's saying the nationwide from 2021 through 2025, crime fell 36%.
And then it's saying in Houston, Texas.
Texas, it fell at that exact same rate at 36%.
So why is this significance?
Why Houston, Texas?
Well, there's a big reason why.
And because in Houston, Texas, they are very heavily saturated with flock cameras.
They have around 3,800 flock cameras in the entire area of Houston.
So if you have 3,800 flock cameras, you would expect that the crime weight would fall much sharper.
It would be a much more drastic decline, but that's not what we're seeing.
what we're seeing. Even with 3,800 flock cameras, crime rate only fell at the national average.
Well, of course, I've got an even better example than that. In Atlanta, flock's hometown,
they've got over 5,000 cameras, as I pointed out last week. Crime was flat or increased in every
category. Now, you have one of the categories that it was flat in was automobile crime.
you would think that of all things these automated license plate readers, which is its primary function,
you would think that when it came to car theft and other issues like that,
that they would have a big effect.
They had no effect on the crime statistics as collected by the FBI.
But this, as you point out, you know, standing in front of a falling curve and taking credit for it,
we have seen this done over and over and over again with pharmaceutical companies and the vaccines.
You know, you've got a lot of people are getting.
sick with a particular case and as it's a particular disease or diagnosis and as these people
create a vaccine all of a sudden it just falls off and it's not due to their vaccine at all.
Well, one of the things that needs to be done is to make sure that we know what is being done
in our communities and that means we have to get involved in the local community to know what's
happening but we also need to have a town councils and city planners that are transparent
in what they are approving.
This is a new Amazon data center that Stoked worries
that it will be the most polluting power plant in the U.S.
Amazon is investing in natural gas burning power plant
as part of a huge data center in Texas.
And as I pointed out before,
the New York Times said, well, you know,
we're looking at the massive amount of carbon dioxide.
They're still worried about that, right?
I'm not worried about that, but they are.
But we have to lose all.
of our cars, even though these data centers are doing more pollution than any other power plants.
And they're going to give them special exemptions because it is going to provide the tools of
tyranny that our federal government so craves.
And so they get their exceptions.
They get their special favors.
Amazon emissions have gone up in each of the past several years.
And when they look at this, it's going to soon be equipped.
to, when you look at their data center and everybody else's, it'll soon be equivalent to all of the
passenger cars in America, just from the data centers.
Is that really worth it?
You know, when we look at that and we look at what is happening with the flock stuff,
just always remember this graphic right here.
Your city spent millions on cameras to spy on you, not on potholes.
Think about that.
And nearby Knoxville, they've got, they spent nine and a half.
million dollars on roving flying cameras from axon they're going to be drone surveillance devices
and that's just the beginning they're going to have a annual fee of that that's just to install the
things what if they were to use that to fix the roads there's a novel idea there's something to run
for if you're going to run for local office just stop that a i dentist centers are causing
an unfathomal amount of air pollution as they point out each new one they build
is they don't have to comply with these regulations just like Musk and Memphis.
So in one year, they'll rival the output of half the passenger cars in the U.S.
And that's just the ones that they've already planned and have under construction.
And a California town that is known for producing garlic, Amazon built a data center without
anybody knowing about it.
They had one person in the planning office that had rubber stamp this.
Nobody knew about it until it broke.
ground and started going up. And this is something that you see over and over again.
And that's California where, what is it, like two thirds of the produce in the U.S. is made?
So is this going to affect the price of garlic?
I don't know. But, you know, it's also California where they have a lot of regulations
and where they are really into all of this climate change and pollution and so forth in a big way.
So if they can do that in California, you think they can do it.
And your red state, there's absolutely no doubt about it.
Elon Musk, meanwhile, is going to build the biggest building in the world,
spanning a colossal 100 million square feet.
Think about that.
And he says he's going to turn it into fabrication center for silicon.
He calls it TerraFab.
And it's going to be in Texas.
He's going to spend $17 billion, 100 million square feet.
It blow past every structure ever built.
Instantly become the largest building in the world.
For example, some of the bigger ones, Mall of America, 5.6 million square feet.
Apple Park is 2.8 million square feet.
You have the Pentagon is 6.6 million square feet.
He's going to be 100 million square feet.
Think about that.
It's just amazing.
And this is just an example of how,
the extraordinary wealth accumulation of some of these people allowed them to do anything they want
and that includes buying the prostituting politicians who will sell us out for a song.
Well, we have a few more minutes here before we need to take a break.
So I want to start on the pharmaceutical aspects of what happened.
You know, there was a very touching story.
Children's Health Defense had it about where is the outrage about autism?
Well, we saw a lot of outrage yesterday.
Trump said, well, we're going to change the childhood vaccine schedule.
We're not going to have as many of them.
And we're going to space them out somewhat.
Boy, there was outrage everywhere.
Outrage from the pediatric society.
Other physicians, you had Cassidy, who was a physician and an outgoing senator, was furious.
And mainstream media, which is, let's be honest, owned by the pharmaceutical companies.
They were outraged.
Where is the outrage about autism?
The guy starts out.
I said, if I'd walked in my fourth grade classroom in 1978, told my teacher that one day
virtually every school district in America would have multiple classrooms dedicated to children
who could not speak, who required one-on-one AIDS, who wandered, who self-injured, who had seizures,
who would require lifelong care, she would have assumed I was describing some dystopian
science fiction novel, yet here we are.
Why are we accepting that?
What does it matter with these people?
You know, when you look at this and how severe this problem is, you have to ask some of these people who are complaining about any change to vaccine schedule.
Unfortunately, it is far too little that he has changed as he's adding the MRA flu vaccine that's there, but mandating it by the Navy.
Nevertheless, when you look at this, why, as bad as this problem is, you got to ask, why wouldn't you question everything?
when it comes to cause of autism.
They only want to question people who want to question what is causing autism.
Those are the people who get attacked, but they don't attack autism itself.
They're not interested in exploring every avenue.
Where did we see this before?
Yeah, we saw this exact game plan because we saw it with COVID,
because that's the way these people have always worked.
Country artist Tyler Hudson came through the U.S. last week.
He's a Texan living in Australia.
And on one of his Instagram posts about autism, he did something that really doesn't happen to me anymore, said the writer.
After 22 years as an autism, dad, it choked me up, he said.
And in the post was an excerpt from his new book, The Missing Lyrics.
His son is Lyrick, and his son has severe autism.
It discussed a poem written by his daughter about his teenage son with profound autism.
He said, I was fine until I got to these words.
He's never been to a party.
He's never walked into a friend's house.
If I could cure him, I would.
Acceptance looks really nice on a T-shirt until he bites himself so hard he bleeds.
If I could cure him, I would.
It's love that makes us fight for a cure that makes us fight for a life.
So you look at this.
Isn't this amazing?
This folks is a picture of how much they hate us.
And they hate us.
They want to kill us.
They want to injure our children and kill our children.
And who are they?
Big pharma and the prostitutes that they've bought in politics and the media and the rest of this stuff.
He goes on to say, I remember the world before profound autism became commonplace.
He said, that's not nostalgia talking.
It's memory.
I went to an elementary school in 1970s.
He said, I played Little League.
I rode my bike around the neighborhood until the streetlights came on.
I went to church, summer camp, birthday parties, county fairs, airports, shopping malls, and movie theaters.
I sat and packed gymnasiums, crowded cafeterias.
I stood in line for the scrambler at the fair.
Behind 100 kids I'd never met.
I was surrounded by children everywhere I went constantly for my entire childhood.
Looking back, I can remember many of them, the kid who always picked his nose, the kid who couldn't stop talking, the class clown, the bully.
The shy girl, the future valedictorian.
I even remember the girl and my sister's grade with Downs syndrome because there was exactly one.
What I cannot remember, not a single time, not once, not anywhere, was a child who couldn't speak.
A child who wore a helmet because he smashed his head in the concrete.
A child who shrieked uncontrollably for hours.
Parents wrestling a teenage son twice their size to keep him from hurting himself.
A mother scanning a parking lot in panic because her nine-year-old bolted and can't say his own name.
I've asked hundreds of people my age the same question.
I get the same answer every time.
Usually a long pause and a puzzled look.
They don't remember anybody like that either in their childhood.
If those children existed in our world, they were so extraordinarily rare that none of us ever encountered them.
That's right.
and the most astonishing part
isn't that our world changed
is that we stopped acting like it did.
As a matter of fact, if you go back and look,
and I don't think, we don't have the chart in here,
do we on 4-1?
Or do we?
No, we don't.
If you go back and look at the number of vaccines,
they had 10 vaccines required in 1983,
autism was 1 in 10,000.
It's gone from 10 to 32.
36 to 72, now to 96.
And we're now at the point where amongst boys in 2026, it is one out of 20 from one out of 10,000.
Now, it's kind of interesting to see how it's ramped up as the number of required shots have ramped up.
Now, correlation is not necessarily causation, but it's something it should be looked at.
When you look at what it's like to have severe autism like this, so he's describing, why wouldn't
you look at every cause? Why should anything be off limits? And why should the pharmaceutical companies
be given immunity for childhood vaccines? They know that or they wouldn't have put the immunity in there.
That's why Fauci did it in the first place. Because he knew that even with just a handful of vaccines,
it was going to put the vaccine companies out of business because of the harm that they were doing.
So he got them childhood immunity.
Then they multiplied it, knowing that it was harmful.
And that's where we are today.
And so...
About the whole one in 20, yeah, people will dismiss it all by saying,
oh, they've just expanded what it means to be autistic.
You know, they now include largely normal people,
which they have done as a smokescreen, I would say,
to hide the fact that the extremely autistic people,
the ones that, you know, wear helmets and scream,
are climbing at a precipitous rate.
That's right.
Well, you know, the example that I always go back to is this family in Tennessee.
They moved to Tennessee because they went to homeschool their kids.
Then the mother wanted to get a divorce.
And in court, the judge said he was a vaccine proponent.
And so it was brought up and her lawyer knew that.
So he brought that up.
And the judge was outraged.
He thought that was child abuse not to get your child vaccinated.
So he said, whichever one of you will agree to get your kids caught up, I'll give that parent
custody.
And so the mother said, yes, I'll do it.
And she did it.
And for the daughter, they spread it out because she had already had a couple of, she's the
oldest one, she'd had a couple of bad reactions to early vaccines.
And so they spread out over a couple of days.
For the two younger boys, they gave them all of them at once.
They went straight into intensive care.
One of them got out about a week or so in there.
the other one was in there longer.
When he came out, he's so severely autistic that he's going to be in diapers the rest of his life.
Well, we're going to pick up with this on the other side of the break.
Folks, we will be right back.
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Let's pick up with this.
The children that we've all seen in the grocery store are becoming adults now, he said.
That's not a projection.
It's arithmetic.
The kids who started arriving in the 1990s and started getting injected with a massive number of vaccines.
are now in their 30s.
The public imagination stops at the sweet, non-speaking eight-year-old because an eight-year-old
is easy to feel something about.
But nobody has a mental image for a 34-year-old man with the same needs who is six inches
taller than his father, who has a raging libido who has whiskers that he can't shave himself,
whose father is 71 and his mother just had a hip replacement.
So what do we do about that?
parents are aging out of the ability to lift their own sons. This is all done so that
Big Pharma can become billionaires. And so the Fox News and CNN and all the rest of these
media whores can make their money as well. Here's an example of how the medical community is
always upping the ante. Whether you look at what they have as acceptable blood pressure
levels, they have constantly changed that, where you look at the cholesterol measurements,
it's always something to sell more drugs, isn't it?
The American Cardiology Associates, the American Heart Association came out with a new set of
guidelines just earlier this month. And they are a fascinating study in the creation of disease,
because according to the now, the recommendations around when you should be testing somebody for
high cholesterol have changed. Instead of just testing older people, we should be testing younger
people. We should be screening children. We should be getting people to submit to a cholesterol
test every five years. And the level at which they set the LDL target, this is a kind of low
density lipoprotein, is that about, it's about 100. Something like 25% of the American population
has an LDA level that's over that.
So if you do the math,
the new definition of high cholesterol
is about almost 100 million Americans.
How about a third of the population?
This is the massive market.
So I've been asking my friends in the cardiology role,
like, what's going on here?
Why is the industry suddenly,
the industry and these organizations back in cholesterol?
And the reason is so obvious,
Alan, it's because there's so much money in it.
because there are new cholesterol-lowering drugs.
There are new ways to take healthy people and turn them into candidates for which they would be.
Lifelong customers.
And, of course, one of the biggest selling drugs out there are statins.
And so if they can redefine what is an acceptable level of cholesterol, then they say,
well, according to our guidelines, you should be on this drug.
And they put the fear of God in you.
Not so much the fear of God is fear of death, right?
So what is behind Trump's order that he just signed?
And again, remember, the outrage coming from mainstream media, mainstream medicine about this,
this is just cannot be tolerated.
They can tolerate autism, but they can't tolerate fewer vaccines for kids.
Trump signs in order to limit childhood vaccines and to split the MMR shots.
So he signed the executive order.
Now, here's the bottom line.
This is, folks, a head fake.
It is a virtue signal for his people.
Because his executive order has no effect.
These things are set at the state level.
He doesn't get to set these recommendations.
Now, of course, some of this stuff is coming from the CDC,
but he's not going to stop any of that.
We just had the FDA approve a new MRA flu shot and cover up the danger signals on it.
The Navy is now mandating it.
in spite of what War Pete said about the mandated vaccines, they're doing it again.
So now they've got an MRA flu shot that they're going to mandate.
So in the executive order, and as they were talking about it on Monday, he said,
decades ago, children received only a small fraction of vaccines required today.
The order recommends that the number of childhood vaccines drop to 11 from the existing
18 recommended by the American Academy of Pediatrics.
Now, that in and of itself, that number I've seen repeated on multiple.
articles. That is a lie. It is a bull-faced lie, folks. They've got 18 conditions that they want you
vaccinated for, just like they want you to take statins for the redefined high cholesterol,
and they want to have you take blood pressure medication for the redefined blood pressure.
I mean, if you go back 40 years, blood pressure was typically, as a rule of thumb,
it was the upper number was 100 plus your age, right? But now it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
matter what your age is. Oh, if you're above 130 or 40, you need to be taking all this blood pressure
medication. So they redefine that to drive business to themselves. So I've seen this figure of 18
all over the place. If you go back and look at the schedule, you'll find that for these 18 different
conditions, they're injecting people over and over and over again. Sometimes multiple times a year
for the same thing.
They call them booster shots.
But folks, it adds up because what we're talking about here in most cases are the dangerous
things like the adjuvants, like aluminum, the preservatives that are in there, like formaldehyde
and other things like that.
That's what makes these things so deadly, especially in combination when they put these
in.
And that's why the kid who got the catch-up vaccines and got a whole bunch of them all at
once got lifetime autism from it.
Think about that.
The immunizations recommended.
For all children under the order are for measles, mumps, rebella, diphtheria, tetanus, pertussus, polio,
hemophilius, influenza type B, anemocococcal disease, human HPV, and chickenpox, right?
So we're reducing them, said Trump.
Well, he's not really.
You know, they're giving people, maybe they're going to reduce the number of booster shots.
but if they're going to play the game and say, well, we're only got 18 different diseases out there that we're going to inject you for.
But if they take it from that down to 11 diseases, but then for those remaining 11, you're going to get four or five shots each.
And that's not an exaggeration.
You're still back up to 40 or 50.
So it's a slight improvement, but it is a head fake.
It is virtue signaling.
It is a limited hangout.
This is just for the base to applaud him.
Nothing real here.
Nevertheless, the establishment freaked out.
And the president suggested the MMR vaccine could be quite lethal if given all at once.
He said, experts say, here's where the BBC and all the mainstream media come back and say, well, experts say,
the allowing time between the jabs means that children are more likely to contract diseases in the interim or that they're more likely to miss appointments.
if there's multiple shots.
So this is about making sure that you go to your pediatrician frequently, is it?
Yeah, yeah, we're going to drum up business for them.
It is a RICO business, folks.
It is racketeering.
That's what the American Pediatric Society is.
They've got a lawsuit accusing them of RICO,
and I think it is 100% accurate.
And what a ridiculous statement,
if you just think about that for a second,
are they saying that the vaccines,
are safer when you take them all together?
Yeah, we don't even talk about that.
They don't address that.
Yeah.
So, you know, experts say that allows time to get these diseases between jabs, you know,
in case you were about to catch it in the few months in between if you space it out.
This is this nonsense about herd immunity.
And folks, it is nonsense.
If you've heard that fantasy, get over it so that you don't become part of the herd,
which is what they want you to be part of.
So they said, getting the vaccine is much safer than getting measles, mumps, or rebella.
Well, no, actually, it isn't.
It absolutely is not.
We all, in that society that he was talking about growing up in the 1970s, we didn't have an MMR shot.
It's not amazing.
As he pointed out, he went all these different places where there are tons of kids, weights in line with kids he doesn't know.
And, you know, he made it through.
And we all had measles.
and we all had mumps.
And so that was the world in which we lived, and we did not have autism at all.
But we had those childhood diseases, and they were not serious if you had them in childhood.
So the federal government does not have the authority to implement the new recommendations from Trump.
Shots that are required for school attendance are set at the state level.
So where does that put us?
This is the same type of thing that, you know, oh, what's going to be the bad?
Democrat governors that are going to do it.
And Trump is not going to tie any money to this like you did all the COVID rules,
a lockdown, put your mask on, stay six feet apart, all those different things.
You comply with that, and I'll keep giving you federal funds.
I'll give you increased federal funds.
But if you don't do that, I'll take the money away.
He's not going to take money away from these people, so they're all going to continue to do this.
Delaying or skipping shots is risky.
That's the message that Senator Bill Cassidy wants you to think about.
He said, vaccines are overwhelmingly safe.
Vaccines are effective.
And Senator Cassidy is lying to your face.
So is Fox News and the rest of these creeps.
Just take a look at this.
The person put this up and said,
I took this photo at our pediatrician's office this morning.
Attention student athletes.
Sports physicians are done,
are done primarily to make sure that you feel that you're not at a high risk for sudden cardiac
death on a playing field. So now in many jurisdictions, they are because they force these
vaccines on kids. They now have to do cardiac analysis on them before they're allowed
to play in sports because they've had so many kids drop dead. That's never happened before.
It's just like the autism thing. Why should we have a situation where, and they even point out,
COVID vaccination affects your risk.
But they still push it on kids, don't they?
So if you've received doses of any COVID shots, we will not be able to clear you to compete
in sports without performing this work and possibly an echocardiogram to lick at potential
heart damage.
But Senator Bill Cassidy, that lying prostitute, wants to tell you that lecture you, oh, vaccines
are overwhelmingly safe.
And now they've got an MRI flu shot that they're going to be pushing out to everybody
as well.
How often and how many vaccines children in the U.S. receive is based on the times when the vaccines
will work the best with their immune system.
Yeah, you know, like immediately after birth, when they don't have an immune system, they
can handle that, and certainly can't handle the aluminum and the other contaminants that they put
in there, they call adjuvants, they put things in deliberately to trigger your immune system.
and sometimes that triggering never stops.
So when you're talking about vitamin K and hepatitis shots
and give these things to infants,
you got that time?
Is that correct?
No, what we're seeing here, folks, is a magician's trick.
Yeah, the pharmacia, the sorcerers, right?
This is a magician's trick,
a trick of misdirection that Trump is doing.
Now, watch this hand over here,
and while you're watching that hand,
he's got the other one doing something else, right?
this is an executive order over something that he has absolutely no authority over.
He's not going to stop the 1986 Legal Immunity Act that Fauci ran through and got Reagan to sign.
He's not going to stop that.
He's not going to stop the MRA stuff.
Yeah, they're going to no longer recommend it, but they're going to do it anyway.
They're still going to do the COVID shots.
This is what I criticized Florida for us.
It's great that you got Latipo and DeSantis down there, the Surgeon General of Florida,
the governor in Florida, saying, well, we don't want to recommend these for anybody.
But why wouldn't you stop it when you see how harmful it is?
That is fraud and that is harm being conducted on people.
You are there as government to protect the life and liberty of people.
The FDA is there to make money for pharmaceutical companies.
You need to step up and do the right thing.
Still requiring a Vax, just fewer them, and spaced out a little bit.
But now he's going to add the MRNA flu shot to all of this stuff as well.
So yet again, we see a head fake from Trump.
But there is no end to the complaining throughout mainstream media, both in America and abroad.
They're outraged about this.
Trump unends the check upends the childhood vaccine schedule, including splitting up the MMR shot.
Imagine that.
The executive order would call for states to reconsider guidance for vaccine
requirements for schools. It's a nothing burger. There is absolutely nothing to this. And yet look at the
outrage. And look at the acceptance of children having heart attacks when they play. Look at the
acceptance of severe autism. That's what these people are willing to accept, because they hate you,
they hate your children, they want to kill and cripple all of us. Citing no evidence, Trump alleges
that the MMR vaccine, long a boogeyman of any anti-vaccine activist thanks to a long,
discredited study by disgraced British exposition ex-physician no Andrew Wakefield is not
disgraced when they what they did to him was a disgrace to the medical community everybody
sees it just like what they did to people who pushed back against the COVID pandemic
garbage it was a disgrace for them it wasn't a disgrace to the people who got purged
out of the medical system it just showed what a disgraceful medical system we have
They don't give you information or if they do, it's a lie.
And if they, and they don't want your consent, of course.
So it also removed the recommendations for the COVID-19 jabs,
but did not remove the COVID-19 jabs.
And I talked about that as well.
I keep thinking of that movie.
It was called Montenegro.
And the only thing I remember about that movie was that she had this Bassetown.
We had a Basset Hound.
It was a great-looking Basset Hound.
And this woman was having this mental crisis and she put some poison in the milk and she says,
well, you know, the dog's name, you know, well, Rover, that's poison in that milk.
If I were you, I wouldn't drink it.
But here it is.
And I said, that's exactly what DeSantis and Lattapo and Trump are really doing with this stuff.
If you know that it's poison, why would you leave it there available when you know that you also have commercials on TV and talking
heads on TV and crooked physicians who will do anything to their patients for money.
When those people are telling them, urging them to drink it or to inject it, why would you
put that poison out? And so when you look at the MRA flu vaccine, Trump giveth and
Trumpeth taketh away, doesn't he? So the first MRA flu vaccine and the FDA has played a very
shady game to hide the serious safety signals a part of this.
As they point out, children's self-defense,
legacy media coverage focused almost exclusively on efficacy.
Serious problems with the trial data published in the New England Journal of Medicine,
and yet that was relegated to an appendix behind a paywall.
And so the reality is that they are the big headline that they've got out there.
It's like, look, we've got this MRA flu vaccine.
It's 26% improvement of the old flu vaccines.
And I'm going to say, how does that math work?
What is a 26% improvement over zero?
Lens, do you know what that is?
It's kind of like dividing by zero.
I guess it's whatever you want.
It doesn't make any sense at all.
So what they did was they had a study where they compared people who got this
mRNA flu vaccine, the people who got the traditional flu vaccine,
and a study evaluated an optimized version of their vaccine.
But in reality, in absolute terms, the vaccine reduced the risk of illness by only 0.8%.
So they overstate its efficacy, saying that it's 26% more effective than the other flu vaccine,
which, again, begs the definition, most of people get the flu vaccine, wind up getting the flu.
Most concerning, however.
I guess they're saying that the regular one is,
0.6% effective. This kind of sounds like it's just noise in the statistical data. That's right.
Most concerning, however, were the serious adverse events data, which was buried behind a paywall
in the appendix. Here's reality, folks, six-month data, and when we're talking about, first of all,
let me say what the serious adverse events are. They point out they're not mild events. They're
usually severe enough to require hospitalization to threaten life to cause significant disability
or result in death. So that's what we're talking about. Hospital, disability, and death.
And with the regular flu, after six months, the regular flu shot had 389 of those events.
This is just so incredibly crazy when you actually look at the data. But the new MRA flu shot
was not 389, it was 449.
So they had an extra 60 people who had serious adverse events.
And that's, you know, the ones that have an immediate reaction.
The thing about mRNA is that they kept on seeing long-term problems come up a long time after
receiving the dosage with a lot of these mRNA tests.
That's why none of them passed the testing before they ignored all of that.
That's exactly right.
And so, you know, when we look at this, the flu vaccine was already the most widely reported thing causing injuries before you had the COVID-19 vaccine.
So now what they're doing is they're ramping it up.
They're taking the flu vaccine, which is most widely reported as damaging things.
Now they're going to make it MRNA to make it even more damaging and significantly by that as well.
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Analyzing the globalist next move.
Well, Dr. Sheva is going to be joining us to the top of the hour. We're going to be talking about running as an independent candidate, third party candidate, and what the system actually looks like to you when you do that. I've had some experience.
that as well. Before we get to that, I want to talk about Tucker's new manifesto and his talking about
a third party. But before I get to that, I want to really quickly, this is someone who did us a
huge favor. Roger at Five Rivers Land Company in Dandridge, Tennessee was a person that came to our
rescue. We would not have made it here because we had so many people who couldn't get off the
ball, couldn't get off the mark and get things going. We had a bank that really made.
messed with us and we nearly lost our deposit as well as this house that we're in right now.
And you heard me talking about it.
And he contacted me and said, hey, I'm in the area.
I can do an appraisal if you need an appraisal.
And he did it.
And he did it right away.
He turned it around right away.
And so I really do appreciate that.
He has a real estate company here, Five Rivers Land Company in Dandridge, Tennessee.
And he has a house that he wanted me to tell people about it.
It's a special house that they have.
have a motivated seller who was retiring. It has been a lifelong farm homestead for he and his
family. As a matter of fact, this goes back to the 1800s of this property, built in 1890,
14 acres, so it's ready as a farm. It's a farmhouse with acreage, a motivated seller.
Make an offer on all or part of the land. He said, it's owned agriculture, so bring your
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vintage 1890s house with authentic wood paneling and other things that are you can find that on zillow
and so if you want to contact him his email is five rivers land and that's spelled out fivee
at protonmail.com and we'll put the link to that in the show notes so it looks like a great
house and as I said the person needs to retire and they're motivated seller so get in contact with him
Let's talk a little bit about what Tucker is doing here in terms of a lot of people are saying,
well, this is all what MAGA really wanted in the first place.
He also, as some of the reports are saying, Ross story says, well, he hurls Epstein and Trump's face
again as he launches a MAGA takeover.
Well, I don't know.
When I look at these types of things, I always look, especially because of the Tea Party.
When the Tea Party came out, I looked at it and it's like, okay, so yeah, taxes are too high,
were taxed enough already. That was what they were talking about with the Tea Party. But what is your
solution? Do we, what do we do in terms of spending? What are we going to cut? Or do you want to,
you don't want to raise taxes anymore? So what do you want to cut? Or do you just not care about the
deficit? And there was no clear philosophy or principles really coming from the Tea Party. It was just a
movement of frustration. And I felt the same way with MAGA as well, except it also added a cult
of personality. So what's the big idea behind Tucker's manifesto? What is the principle under which people
are going to organize, or is it going to be another cult of personality? That's what I always look
for. So he has availed this 10-point manifesto, and part of it is attacking Epstein, which, again,
it is an easy target to go after. But he also called for punishing officials who lie. And
He said we've been deceived about things like the JFK assassination and about 9-11.
And he said, we need to have people who are honest in government.
And so when I look at that, it's like I agree with a lot of things that Tucker is saying today.
I've had a lot of disagreements with him in the past.
And I haven't really heard him correct the record.
He has had things like he said, well, you know, you can't talk about Building 7 or you get fired.
And he did not talk about that.
But when you look at some of the other things that he had to say, here's a clip from Tucker Carlson, folks, three days before the Friday of the 13th that Trump issued that executive order to lock everything down.
Here's Tucker Carlson preparing the way like he was some kind of a satanic John the Baptist for this pandemic that was going to be unleashed on us.
Good evening. Welcome to Tucker Carlson tonight. The Chinese coronavirus epidemic turns out to be just that, an epidemic.
There's no denying that now.
According to the official count, this country has recorded more than 500 cases of the virus and suffered at least 24 deaths.
The real number is without question far higher than that.
Soon we will have a better sense of just how much higher.
By then, this epidemic will have caused economic damage whose effects may dog us for years.
People you know will get sick, some may die.
This is real.
Is it?
This is real.
Be afraid.
Be very afraid.
and that was three days before Trump issued the order.
They were preparing it for him to do that.
And when you look at what he did with other issues,
and I think this is during COVID that he's eating chocolate-covered crickets
because they want you to eat chocolate-covered crickets.
Yeah, correct.
What part of the cricket?
The entire, well, the legs are shaken off,
but it's pretty much the entire crickets.
Including the loins.
The loins are included in that piece.
Yeah, that's right.
Hmm, I love it.
That's delicious.
I love your will.
Well, you know, it was crickets when it came to talking about Building 7 for Tucker Carlson, wasn't it?
He did not want to talk about it at all.
Do you have any of them told they were bombs in the building?
Sure, sure.
Let's start with the collapse of Building 7.
Can you roll the video clip that I sent to you?
Okay, I'm not sure if we can, but to specify that.
Maybe there's some kind of code.
You just don't show the collapse of Building 7.
I don't know what it is.
care if you think the earth is flat. It's not a threat to anyone. But if you say like,
what actually happened with Building 7? Like, that is weird, right? It doesn't, like, what is that?
Right. If you were to say something like that on television, they'd slip out. They would flip out.
You'd like, lose your job over that. Why? Why? Yeah, I'm not going to talk about that. I'd lose my
job. It collapsed on September the 11th, 2001. It had not been hit by an aircraft. It had been damaged by
falling debris and fire, but by 5.20 p.m., most of the fires have been extinguished.
Although the building was 47 stories high, it doesn't fall sideways, nor collapse unevenly.
Control demolition.
For this to have happened, all of the building's vertical supports must have given way
at almost exactly the same time.
Yet the Federal Emergency Management Agency reported that the collapse was due primarily to fire.
But what does it look like to you?
Yeah, it looks like something that Tucker Carlson doesn't want you to see,
something he won't allow being played on his show.
And so his 10 points are basically, a lot of these don't even have anything to do with government.
The first two do.
Fair, we've got to have the same rules apply to presidents, federal agencies, and elites,
and to Jeffrey Epstein, right?
And so, yeah, we want to have a legal system that is,
blind that is a same standard for everybody.
He said, we also should have sovereignty.
We shouldn't be controlled by foreign nations like Israel.
Well, I agree with that as well.
Those are both government things.
But then he gets into things like beautiful.
He talks about urban planners that are uglifying American cities and have brutalist
architecture and a whole bunch of other things.
Yeah, you should have a lot of kids.
These are not the roles of government.
And he doesn't have anything that he is talking about in terms.
of what he would do about the things that actually are about government.
We'll talk more about this when we come back.
We've got to take a quick break in the top of hour.
We'll be right back.
In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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Welcome back, and while we're waiting for Dr. Shiva to join us,
let me just go down some of these things in a little bit more details.
I pointed out, first thing, just list these manifestos.
Government needs to be fair, sovereign.
We need to be productive, beautiful, healthy, honest, optimistic, generalized things like that,
for which he doesn't really have any solutions.
But again, I agree that we don't have a just system.
It is not fair and equitable to everybody.
And we are not sovereign.
We're controlled by Israel.
But when he goes into productive, I've got to ask, what is the government's role in this?
He said America should rebuild farming, manufacturing, and craftsmanship while rejecting an economy
that is dominated by finance, real estate speculation, surveillance systems, and weapons.
Well, what do you do to rebuild your farms and things like that?
Do you get rid of regulations as so?
Say so.
That's what I think needs to happen.
What does he think should happen?
Is government going to rebuild farming, manufacturing, and craftsmanship?
Or are the people going to do that?
And what is government's role in that?
The government's role is to get out of the way.
And then he says, beautiful.
He says, Carlson said, urban planners,
deliberately have uglified American cities.
They've betrayed brutalist architecture, graffiti, public drug use, violent crime.
So deliberate attack on the public.
Again, what is government's role in all of this?
And does he then support Trump's neoclassical, gilded architectural approach that he's running across Washington?
Is that really what the solution is?
I don't really understand where that falls in all this.
He doesn't see actually the CIA's role in pushing a lot of these architectural issues
as well as a lot of social and sexual and drug issues.
Those are things coming from the CIA.
Say so.
Except Carlson is also coming from the CIA.
I've never known anybody.
I've said this in the past.
I've never known anybody who's had family members who are in the CIA.
But his dad ran their mouthpiece, Voice of America, for many years.
And Alex Jones had family members who were proud of the fact they were in
CIA and interestingly enough they both got family members who are named Buckley immediately
there's a lot of overlap there and all of that honest government officials should be punished
for lying to citizens about the JFK assassination 9-11 he said what about media figures like
Tucker Carlson that lied to the public about 9-11 and covered that up should there be any
accountability for that and then he said optimistic he argued that children are a biological
imperative and the foundation of long-term thinking.
And he blamed childless leftists for all of our problems that we have here.
Look, let's understand.
This is another one of these issues.
What is the role of government in terms of making sure that we got more children?
Do you want to stop the childhood vaccines, make sure we got healthy children?
Make sure that we don't have, you want to do something in terms of the garbage that is in our
food and water or drugs? Do you want to talk about that? What exactly should we do about all this stuff?
That's not really the role of government. The government should be involved in some of the things that are
taking that away, but that really is a spiritual issue. And downstream from the spiritual issue
is the cultural issue. And quite frankly, the government has been very involved in terms of
opposing families and policies that make it difficult to have families, but he doesn't address that.
He says, we need to be wise.
And he says, schools should teach.
All right, stop right there.
Yeah, if you want to be wise, don't send your kids to schools to be taught.
It's just.
And so then he goes through his laundry list of things he doesn't like that schools are teaching right now.
Let's understand folks that conservatives thought it would be a great idea to have schools because they'd make great citizens out of our children.
So they pushed government schooling.
Then the left took it over.
That is where wisdom lies.
To understand, don't set up structures that can be taken over by people that you disagree with
that can be then used to coerce and propagandize children or adults.
And he says, decent.
He said, the U.S. should apologize and pay restitution for killing non-combatants and reverse Trump's
Department of War.
Well, I agree.
We should maybe in any of this, I don't see anything about following the Constitution.
You know, when you go back and look at the 10-point plan of Newt Gingrich, his contract with America.
He had specific policies that he was going to enact in Congress.
And in a sense, I guess this is kind of meant to be an echo of that and give a general sense of where he wants to see the country go.
But there's no concrete issues in there at all.
And of course, neither this plan nor Newt Gingrich's plan talked at all about the Constitution.
That's why when I ran for Congress, I said, here's my election cycle after Newt Gingrich, I said,
here's my 10-point plan for America.
It's called the Bill of Rights.
But anyway, we got our guest ready.
So I want to go without any further ado to Dr. Shiva Ayadou Ray.
Thank you for joining us, sir.
Good morning, David.
How are you?
I'm good.
Thank you.
And I wanted to talk to you.
I don't know if you heard me.
I was just talking about Tucker's manifesto and what is there and what is not there.
And it's very much a limited hangout.
It's very much just kind of a mom and apple pie type of thing with no concrete examples of anything that are there.
What's your take on the third party aspect?
You're running for Congress again.
You've had a lot of, or Senate, I should say, you've had a lot of experience in terms of running as an independent candidate.
And you know how the major parties push back against.
anything that's not under their control.
Tell us a little bit about that.
Yeah, so a couple of things, David.
I want to remark, makes my sort of commentaries on Tucker Carlson.
I call him something else.
I'm being fine.
He is a limited hangout.
He comes from a CIA family.
And I think when I speak about what he's doing,
it is an opportunity for people that really learned this repeated lesson,
that the swarm is very, very creative
and how it continues to distract people
from building a true independent bottoms up movements.
I'll talk about that.
But before that, what I want to let people know
is that I'm a big proponent
that when you look at history and you look at the evidence,
it has always been independent bottoms up movements
from everyday people that has changed anything for humanity, period.
Yep. Anything that has oppressed people, enslaved people, or has always come from top down,
and it has always been a manipulation, sometimes presented as I was going to save people. So that's
from the time of Christ or even before to today. Christ was the obvious establishment. He was fighting
the Romans, but the not so obvious was the Sadducees and the Pharisees who acted like they were
preaching the words of God. And we don't, and Tucker Carlson falls into that same realm.
as the saddisees and the Pharisees.
The establishment knows how to create fake versions of real fighters and manipulate people.
And I can't see anyone taking Tucker Carlson seriously at all,
just a face that he makes absolute insincerity.
But we'll come back to that.
But I've spent my whole life, David, as you know, being a proponent of this,
having grown up in a caste system in India before I came to the United States,
and then having studied what America is truly about,
it's always been bottoms up movements that have changed everything.
So when I ran against Elizabeth Warren in 2017 and 18,
we ran as independence.
And I just want to let people know that the establishment
does this repeated mantra that you're wasting your votes
when you vote for independence,
and independence can't do anything.
The reality is what I share with you will show that
as an independent candidate, as an independent force,
our movement has always led the way it has many, many victories.
And I want to walk people through that.
So we break through this brainwashing.
So for example, if you look at in 2017-18, we ran as independence.
And we ran on a campaign of only the real Indian can defeat the fake Indian.
Now, that slogan itself was a very powerful slogan.
People loved it.
Yeah, it was very clever.
It was a great slogan.
I mean, I still, everyone, I have two guys doing some masonry work in the house, two hardworking guys.
And they said, oh, we voted for you, Dr. Schia.
We love that slogan.
We still have the signs we'd say.
We had a picture of me and Elizabeth worn on a headdress and it said, only the real Indian can defeat the bacon.
But anyway, we keep part of that independent movement that we did.
And the Republicans didn't like it.
The GOP here didn't like us saying that.
And obviously the Democrats said, but what it did was from the time we started doing it,
in the in the and the thousands of flyers and huge posters we put up if you look at the time
that it started we really started this whole thing about Elizabeth Warren um fake Indian
ancestry to a much more deeper way to reflect that she's actually the racist
um defining racism as someone who uses race for their political advancement yes for their
capital advancement that's racism someone calling people names that's just ignorance
but Elizabeth Warren practices racism because she used race to you know,
uh,
uh,
garner her wealth.
And that's racism using race.
And so that and me saying that as a Indian,
but not an Indian,
depending on how you look at it,
was quite hilarious for people.
And I think it really took off.
But we forced that fake Indian to take the DNA test.
We had these huge signs,
eight foot by 10 foot.
everywhere. People would put them on their lawns. And she couldn't get away her own party forced her
to take that test. And they had to throw in Peruvian jeans to even get her out of 1024. But the point
was, we destroyed her aura, right? So that was, so we started that in 2017 and it just took off. That was
an independent movement. After we did that, then Donald Trump came and he started, you know,
I offered her my $10 million building in Cambridge if she could prove she was, you know, an Indian.
And then Donald Trump Jr. did it. And Trump tried to take credit for that. But it was our movement
of everyday people put up these huge signs, you know, massive signs everywhere. People would take
their lawns on highways. That's what expose Elizabeth Warren. That is the power of an independent
movement. That's one entertaining example, but nonetheless, it shows what happens when things
come bottoms up. And by the way, who's the guy, Matt Schlapp, complete? You know, I don't have
enough four-letter words to describe him. When we went to CPAC, very interesting story, in the
middle of this campaign, we paid $2,500 for our booth. We went there. We got confirmation, but when we
showed up, they wouldn't let us in. They didn't like that.
like our fake Indian real Indian.
Anyway, one of our guys said,
screw this and he sneaked into the hall,
and we just set up our booth.
The idiots didn't even know we were there.
So we were there for two days.
And everyone loved our booth.
And then we started handing out our flyers,
and then Matt Schlapp had the police throw us out.
Okay?
But that's Match Lap.
So the GOP did not like the slogan.
Just to let everyone know,
but it was the independent movement
and us getting on the ground
that forced Elizabeth Warren to take the DNA test,
completely destroyed her character
and exposed to her as a racist that she is.
So that's one example of the power of an independent movement.
Now, in 2020, we ran again for Senate against a guy called Markey.
We still had our movement, but we said, okay,
a bunch of the Trumpers were like,
oh, Dr. Sheba, we love you.
Why don't you run as a Republican?
We still had our independent movement.
We ran under the Republican banner.
We raised $2 million, all swam.
small dollar donations.
We had huge, you know, signs 2020.
We were running against a guy called Ed Markey.
And the GOP, top down, they find a guy called O'Connor, nice Irish name in Boston.
Give him $250,000.
A guy couldn't even raise $1.
We raised $3 million bottoms up.
And on election night, even the GOP chairman said, you guys won the election.
and that's where in Massachusetts
has nine counties
and one of the nine counties,
Franklin County, we won by 10 points.
We're all the ballots are hand counted, paper ballots.
And in all the other eight counties,
we lose 6040, 6040, 6040, 6040.
To a candidate in the primary, no one even knew.
But again, if you came to Massachusetts,
you would see huge billboard signs,
25,000 lawn signs, 10,000 bumper stickers,
3,000 volunteers.
This guy didn't even have one lawn sign up.
And let me jump in.
here and say, I've seen this over and over again.
You know, we see candidates who, uh, they show up.
There's like two people that are there at the meeting.
And, uh, and yet you got somebody else that's get big crowds.
And I've seen this over and over again.
And who wins the election?
It's the guy who's got two people who show up to see them.
Right.
So there's something definitely wrong with elections that turn out like that, I think.
Yeah.
So, um, I'm just changing this for you.
So, so, um, so what happened out of that election,
Again, we moved our campaign to a write-in campaign, David.
Okay, again, key thing to rep, even though we ran as an R, we were an independent movement.
So we were quickly able to move the campaign to a right-in campaign.
So we're still a bona fide candidate.
We collected all the signatures to get on the ballot.
And it was in that period of September.
Our movement said this completely doesn't make sense.
We went to the Secretary of State.
and demanded to see verification that we had quote unquote lost the election.
And the verification of that is we demanded something called the ballot image.
Now, when you go to vote, if you're not doing a paper ballot and you vote on paper or an electronic voting machine, your ballot goes through a machine.
A photograph is taken of your paper ballot.
Right.
That photograph is then tabulated.
Okay?
So what is the ballot? Is it the paper? No, it's the image. And that image is called a ballot image. So I just want to emphasize that to every American listening, 99% of Americans don't know this. Your paper ballot is photographed and the photograph is tabulated. Now, we know that the photograph could have all sorts of erroneous marks. Digital images can be manipulated much faster than this. But it is the photograph which is used to tabulate your boat. That photograph,
is officially called a ballot image,
ballot image, the image of the ballot.
So we went to the Secretary of State
in September after we quote unquote
lost this election. We demanded the ballot images.
Our movement did.
We have it on photograph.
The Secretary of State of Massachusetts said,
ha, ha, ha, we deleted those images.
We don't have to preserve them.
We turned the switch off.
Now, when the paper ballot goes through the machine,
a picture is taken in local
memory. It has to be. Just like if you opened your computer and you created a Microsoft Word
document, right? The Word document is created. You may decide not to save it, but it is created in
memory. Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to work on it. When this case, on the machine is a setting,
save image, delete image. They set it to delete. By a federal law passed during the civil
rights era, 50 years ago, by Democrat majority, all records.
in connection with a federal election, U.S. Senate as a federal election, must be preserved for 22 months.
And in fact, it was Biden's DOJ, which clarified it beyond a shadow of a doubt that ballot images also need to be preserved.
So it's absolutely clear. It's a federal law.
Massachusetts is deleting them.
So when we found that out, our movement, I is a leader of the movement with my nearly six, I think three million followers,
on all my social media put out Massachusetts deleted ballots dash the ballot images.
Deleted 1.7 million ballot images, right?
I said ballot images, the ballots which are used in electronic machines.
That starts going viral.
I get thrown off Twitter.
Wow.
Okay?
That was in September 24th, 2020.
And then one of these fact-checking organizations wrote a hit.
piece on me saying, oh, Dr. Shiva's lying.
Ballots were not deleted.
I never said ballots. I said the ballot images.
But in that news article,
they stated that
they had contacted the Secretary of State of Massachusetts
and he admitted he had contacted Twitter
to silence me. Now, this is
a grossest violation of the First Amendment.
No lawyer in Massachusetts
wanted to take it on. I had to write
the briefs. We raised
our movement, raised more money
to support all of our legal
filings. And in federal court, we filed. I represented myself against three Harvard trained lawyers
from the Attorney General's Office of Massachusetts. And we win that lawsuit, the preliminary injunction.
And it was in federal court. We cross-examine the social media director of the Secretary of State,
young girl, and she admits, young woman, and she admits the judge and I asked her, how did you
decide to throw me off? Oh, we were very concerned. He was saying this
ballots were deleted.
And then the judge said, what did you do?
Oh, we have a special VIP portal and saw a transcript where we went to Twitter and told
them to silence Dr. Shiva.
And then they did.
And the judge said, how did you feel?
Oh, we felt relieved.
And the judge says, you know, I'm sitting under a photograph of William Brandeis.
Do you guys know what the First Amendment is?
Why did you simply respond to his bad speech with your good speech?
Anyway, he gave us a preliminary injunction, which is very hard to.
get told galvin you cannot go on twitter and silence dr sheva but this was after the election ended you say
then i got hit back on twitter and thrown off again when i shared the same fact then the judge called
twitter into the courtroom now was me against seven lawyers this is in may of 2021 we have a massive
movement and we're the ones who found that the all governments have this unholy alliance with social
media companies. We wrote to Effer Carlson, if that's okay, okay? And Glenn Greenwald and said,
hey, look, we have, this is one of the most historic cases. We've shown that government and
social media companies are doing stuff. And you can go to winbackfreedom.com and you'll see everything
documented, including my emails to Tucker Carlson. He did nothing, David. He silenced it.
Yeah, yeah. And Glenn Greenwald silenced it.
Like he silenced the architects who wanted to question Building 7 collapsing in his footprints.
Exactly.
So when the proverbial shoot is hitting the fan, right?
These grifters who are part of the establishment, they work for the CIA, their agents of the swarm, hit everything.
Then they wait two, three years.
Promote it to get credit for something.
It's after someone's been raped and killed.
You talk about it.
And you try to win a polar surprise.
But when the person's getting raped and killed, you intentionally do not do anything because for two reasons, you don't want Dr. Shiva Adre to get the limelight as a hero who exposed this because that means we build our own brand equity independent of you.
And second, you are actually against this news because you don't want to expose to the public the unholy alliance between government and private companies.
But we won the TRO and that after we started exposing this, David, the judge tried to bribe me.
Through a lawyer he appoints for me.
He says, oh, you're doing so well.
I want you to do better.
And the lawyer said, drop all the cases against the government and just go back on Twitter.
He'd be a great hero.
I refuse.
And then we were lambasted.
And it's all documented.
But the important point is that was in 2020.
It was an independent movement, which showed the unholy alliance.
And then there was Boobie Kennedy who tried to take credit for that and others, right?
But we were the ones who brought this up.
We were the ones who exposed it.
to the world.
An independent movement did that,
independent of the establishment.
That's a number two victory.
Let me give you another example.
It was in 2020 as an MIT PhD,
as a world-renowned scientists on the immune system.
I got invited in 2019 to deliver the prestige lecture
where they only invite one scientist
at the National Science Foundation on the immune system.
I was giving talks like the vaccine model of 1915
doesn't make sense when you just apply a
single vax model to upregulate antibodies. The immune system is much more profound. And everyone
agreed with this. But as a scientist, I was the one in 2020 who led to Fire Fauci campaign.
Hashtag Fire Fauci. We wrote to Rand Paul. He didn't do anything. He waited one year to use our
tag to raise money. Now, and again, in fairness, Rand did do something. He had his wife buy stock in
Gilead Pharmaceutical. Yes. Yeah, sorry. He did do something for himself. But the point is,
It was an independent movement.
We collected 108,000 signatures.
I drove our bus day and night in the middle of COVID down to the White House,
delivered these signatures to the White House and the Republican National Committee.
And wrote a letter to Trump.
It's out there.
Marlama Maple's hand delivered it to Trump.
It says, do not shut down the economy.
As an MIT PhD in Biological Engineer, as a foremost scientist on the immune system,
here is a protocol that you can use to help save people, which was zinc, you know, vitamin D.
I mean, the whole thing was written out.
That protocol went viral.
Zelenko stole my protocol and started making money off of it.
But we saved a couple hundred million people's lives at minimum.
But it was our movement which did that.
Again, Boobie Kennedy was promoting lockdowns.
You can find us tweet.
March of 2020 says lockdowns will save the climate.
It's good, right?
Except me, except our movement, we did the Fire Fauci campaign, got 108,000 petitional signatures, delivered them to Trump.
They did nothing.
That's an independent movement.
So our movement saved lives.
And in that same year in 2020 is when, after I saw my election stolen, is we're the ones who figured out on the machines, not Mike Lindell, who's a complete grifter maximus.
And Mike tried to enroll me into his thing until I figured out what he was about.
he was about selling using this to sell pillows.
But the real issue is that on the machines,
there is a feature called a weighted race feature
where you can flip votes.
So two candidates are running.
You can multiply the votes of one candidate by two.
So if you got 1,000 votes, he gets 2,000 votes.
The other candidate got 1,000,
and you can multiply it by 0.5.
It is a feature in the manuals that was designed for housing associations.
They, quote, unquote, left this feature in on election machine.
So it was I who discovered that, shared it.
And I must have done day and night without being paid a penny.
30 different analyses.
We ran 3,000 audits, educated people on where we showed the number of voters that came in,
didn't match a number of votes.
That was done by our movement.
And then Mike Lindell and these guys came in.
And then Trump came in, stopped the steal.
And they tried to hijack our core findings and made money off of it.
Trump made a half a billion off of my work.
And you can read his emails.
He's putting in my work.
Okay?
but an independent movement found the heart of the election integrity issue, which is this weighted
race feature and the deletion of ballot images.
You know, going back to 2014, when we talked on the phone, I told you, I said, we had a candidate
who ran in a local election, and again, that's not under the federal rules, but this was the
guy who was running the board of elections in Texas brought in by the Republicans with somebody
who had worked at the Rose Law firm with Hillary Clinton.
They brought this guy in to run the elections, and every single election, and this
This would include the federal elections as well, although that wasn't part of her case.
But every one of the elections, he would tell all the counties, delete your ballot images.
And she said, this is blatantly corruption.
You know, you're supposed to keep that stuff under the Texas Constitution.
You're supposed to keep it.
And yet he would tell people to do exactly the opposite.
So we know what's happening.
You know, they're hiding this stuff.
They're adding weighted measures to these different issues when they got it an electronic voting machine.
and again, you found that stuff as well independently.
Yeah, and we did the analysis in Michigan.
Then Rudy Giuliani and the Arizona Senate called us in.
I did all the ballot image analysis, not the garbage.
So what happens when you actually find real stuff, David,
a heart of something, the CIA and the deep state or swarm establishment
will have other people suddenly start talking about this real issue,
but pollute it with crap.
Yeah, that's right. Mike Rendell was talking about IP addresses changing this idiot Jovon Pulitzer, whose name isn't even that. It's Jeffrey Fulia. That's his name. He was brought in. That's his name. And P.H.I.L.A. Look it up. Okay. He started talking about bamboo, right? So the bottom line is, and this is a classic CIA technique. Yeah, it is. Contaminated and make it ridiculous and make it unbelievable. Take the truth to make it unbelievable. Make it unbelievable. But the heart of the issue,
is a true election integrity issue is that ballot images, which are the ballots are being deleted,
to cover up the fraud. Now, coming to, so, so again, independent movements are the ones who expose
Elizabeth Warren and destroyed her, you know, exposed her racism. It was the independent movement,
which started the fire Fauci campaign. It was the independent movement, which exposed unholy
alliance between media and social media companies. It is the independent movement of truth,
Freedom Health and our Senate race, which exposed the real issues with election integrity,
which is ballot images are being deleted, okay, to cover up election fraud and both parties
are doing it.
These were all done by an independent movement, which is massive victories for the American
people.
Now you go to, then we ran, our movement ran again in 2020 for David for president.
And there we wanted to show this fundamental issue that all citizens are created equal.
Meaning to run for the office of president different than becoming president.
Okay.
The amendment rights lets anyone run.
So we ran.
And even though I was born in India, by the way, natural born is never defined.
The Marquis de Lafayette was made a natural born citizen.
Okay.
But the 14th Amendment says equal protection clause, all citizens naturalized and natural born are equal.
Okay.
So we challenged that.
we got on writing in pretty much many states but we officially got on 14 states seven threw us off
seven kept us and in fact mississippi kept us you know what you would call red states you know it went
all the way up by the way to the supreme court in fact one is still there but the point is our movement
did this right which means our movement pushes the envelope it wasn't done all done by us no top
down lawyers so in this election what we did david um was again we have our movement independent
movement. And we predicted when we started this that you people will start seeing fake independent
movements coming up, a la F. Carlson, Tucker Carlson. Because the establishment is, has all this
data from Palantir. And the goal of the establishment is one goal to make sure you, yes,
you listening right here, that you don't get off your own butt. And you don't understand,
you don't be a good citizen. You don't understand how the dynamic.
of oppression work, and you don't take your own independent action to collectively work with
other people independently.
They want you to look to a Democrat or Republican look above, to look to a savior.
And they won't do anything to distract you from your independence.
So we predicted this.
And we predicted that they do this in a recurring process.
So typically they have the two parties, Republican Democrat, the official.
symbols of them. So Hillary Clinton or Mitch McConnell, right? The most
flagrant versions of the
Democrat or Republican. But they know that people after
well say, well, I don't really like Hillary. She's pretty corrupt. I don't
really like Mitch McConnell. He's pretty corrupt, right? Or whoever it is on
or the bushes. So what they do is the shoulders of this bird
also create the wings. And the wings are there to
flap, even sometimes against the establishment, to make the masses think they're fighting for them.
So on the left, they will create a Bernie Sanders or they will create an AOC or they'll create
a in the 80s, Jesse Jackson, who bark even at the establishment Democrats to keep the masses
entertained.
And that's the not so obvious establishment.
And similarly, on the right, they will start the Tea Party or they'll have Rand Paul hang out all day.
or Thomas Massey even, a little more clever monkey, okay, or Trump.
And the goal of these people is to make sure people don't truly leave and build a bottoms up movement that demands their rights, you know?
That's right.
So that's what they've been doing.
Now what has occurred in the last two years is people have realized particularly with the issue of Zionism that both parties are part of this.
And so they have realized people keeling away and drove from both parties in Massachusetts.
which is really the tip of the spear of corruption, global corruption, or national corruption,
67% of the voters of Massachusetts have left the party and their independence.
But yet the media brands it as a blue state.
It's only 26% Democrats, 7% Republicans, 67% independence.
Nationally, 48% of Americans are independent voters.
26% Democrats, 26 about percent Republicans. It's about the same, right? But yet we're told red versus blue, red versus blue. It's not true. So this truth is hidden from people. But the trend is people are moving away. So people like CIA agent, Tucker Carlson, right, or Andrew Yang, the Forward Party, right? They are given funds, supported, given lots of media exposure.
You mentioned Andrew Yang.
I remember when he was running, when he first started running, his issue was UBI,
Universal Basic Income.
And one of our leaders.
I gave him a million dollars.
I tried to get him on the show to talk about universal basic income, and he agreed to come on
and then canceled at the last minute because he realized that I didn't like universal
basic income.
And Elon Musk likes it.
It's an enslavement model.
Yeah.
But what's interesting, one of our leaders in our movement worked for Andrew Yang,
and he said, they're going to steal.
my election. They're going to steal my election. Had everyone on the floor of the convention
tag. And there was a lot of election issues. And then he just caved in. Okay. So the establishment
knows now that people are actually breaking, the wings are actually breaking from the parties.
So what they are doing now and the establishment is united. The Republican Democrats are
won. So the wings are not working anymore. So what they're doing is they're creating a fake
independent movement, a la. F.R. Carlson, Tucker Carlson.
I agree.
That's what they're doing.
And understand that Tucker Carlson, if you look at his entire life and you have to look at people's entire lives.
And you have to, whether personally, if you're going to be in a relationship, someone, look at their entire life.
Not what they just did, you know, the last two days, give you a gift or be nice to you.
Look at their whole life. Tucker Carlson is a master grifter.
He comes from a CIA family.
He wanted to be in the CIA.
Then he joined CIA, CNN.
All these media organizations are.
CIA. Come on, New York Times, all of them. And you're very naive, you don't think they are. And he
grifted there as a Democrat. Then he saw the trend. You know, he's like Wayne Gretzky.
You could see where the puck is going, where the money is. He said, oh, it's going to the right.
Then he goes to Fox. Okay. Yeah. And then he gets funded by an Iranian guy to create his own
network, the same Iranian guy who funds J.D. Vance. All right. So what you see is a guy who is one
step ahead, knowing where the masses are going. And that's where, and he has said it by his own
accord, I want to be famous because he knows that fame has a cachet value of power. And that's what he's
about. This guy is an absolute agent of the swarm. That's who he serves. And the Republicans and
Democrats do Woply need him to be the safety valve as people want to actually break to a true
movement like ours, truth for them out. And this is why I tell you.
Tucker Carlson will never put me on a show.
He's put everyone else on his show who's had me on their shows.
Lower, even on, but he won't put me on because I exposed him for what he is in 2020.
And even Glenn Greenwald won't do it.
Talks a big game, right?
So we have the opportunity now, David, to truly build a real independent movement.
And we have to expose, and you're one of the few people I find who gets this.
Well, Tucker won't put me on the show either.
Right, right. But I'm saying you went through the Alex Jones nonsense.
Alex Jones is an opportunist.
That's right.
Okay. He knows things are wrong, but he wants the money.
And that's really, really bad because when you do that, you confuse people.
You're not principled.
And to say, well, he had to do that.
Well, no, he didn't have to do that.
You did that because of the money and because you're unprincipled.
And when you do that, you confuse people.
You delay people's actual learning opportunity.
It's like being a bad teacher.
I remember Lionel introduced Alex Jones once at an event, and he introduced him as a guy who makes a truth unbelievable.
And it was what we were talking about before.
It's a standard CIA technique.
You know, he goes out and talks about turning the frogs again.
He doesn't talk about these specifics about what these chemicals are and how they disrupt your hormones.
He'll just give you the tagline.
It turns the frogs gay.
And he gets a lot of traction off of that, but it makes it sound like it's nonsense.
And it's not nonsense.
Right.
So when someone like me says it, you have to fight against the nonsense he's put forward.
That's right.
But we have a huge opportunity now, David, because of the hard work, our independent movement
has done consistently, because our views, you just keep going, move forward over and over again.
It doesn't matter what it looks like their victories.
Our victories are we get the news out.
We get the news out.
We expand.
We expand.
Now we have about a half a million people in our organization.
We have an organization structure.
We have our own infrastructure.
We train people.
Truth, Freedom Health is really a movement, which is about raising citizenship consciousness.
It's about making sure every family people recognize that you have to take a certain piece of your day,
just like you would do to pray or you do it to work out or take care of your oral hygiene,
whatever that is, right?
You should take a certain piece of your day to be a good citizen.
And we have a manual for doing that.
Workbooks, right?
Curricula, community.
And we give people action.
So my running for Senate in 2026 is great because we have nearly 70, 80% name brand equity now in Massachusetts.
You're going to be on the PBS debates as well. Tell people about that.
We were just invited to be on a national PBS debate, which will probably come in early October.
And the interesting thing is when we ran against Warren, one of the debate organizations put us out was a violation of the law.
And by the time we filed everything, the case becomes moot.
but this time PBS has invited us.
But they threw in two criteria in order to be on the debate stage.
One of the criteria is that we should have gotten our 10,000 signatures,
certified signatures from citizens who want our nomination papers.
Well, we were the first ones to do that.
The Democrats and Republicans have yet to do that.
So check, we did that.
Then they added in, we have to have about a quarter of a million dollars,
$250,000 in individual donations.
Now, this time, David, I decided,
I didn't need money because last time we raised two million bucks.
And we know we did all the lawn signs and we know they stole our election.
So this time, this time we decided to go much more underground, just people power.
So we have hundreds of volunteers who are handing out flyers making phone calls.
We don't need the money.
Right?
Because it's labor versus capital, right?
We have people.
Right.
So they put in the same, now you got to go raise 250K.
And they only gave us like 10 days, 20 days.
You know, they sent us a letter late.
Maybe that's why the Republicans gave that, gave your opponent $250,000.
Maybe that's the magic number they got even the debate.
I think that's what it is.
I think that's what it is.
So we are about halfway there.
So we have started doing a telethon and videos, you know, quote unquote, begging for money, right?
And we're doing that to tell people, look, if you get me on the debate stage, it's very rare.
They'll give a true independent, a fighter like me, access to national TV.
Extremely rare, right?
Extremely rare.
Very rare.
Yeah, I think, I think, David, you know how rare that.
So they've given us that a very short time window.
By September 1st, they're going to count all of our donations.
By August 12th is one deadline pre-primary, and then 12th through, you know, 19 days thereafter.
So I think we're about 60K.
We went from like 20K to 60K, 70K, literally in like five days.
So we're curving like that.
So anyone listening, you can go to Shiva for Senate.com slash donate.
and donate as much as you can, but the goal is we'll finally have someone like me on a debate stage.
I'm sure they're going to play all sorts of games, right?
Try to silent.
I mean, we'll see.
They may even cancel the debate if I show up.
That's my theory right now because I don't think they want that because it's a live debate, right?
You can't control me.
You can't control speech.
So it's going to be.
Anyway, so that's one thing.
But nonetheless, if you want to really see,
real entertainment.
Mm-hmm.
Shiva4, numeral4Center.com slash donate.
If you can share that links to David with your viewers.
But we need people to donate ASAP.
But our campaign has this fundamental slogan, which I don't have a flyer here, David,
but at some point, I don't know if you're recording this or if this gets live, if it's live.
We're live now and it is also recorded as well.
Yeah.
I don't know if I can bring up anything.
but if we go to Shiva for Senate.com and you scroll down and you'll see a flyer.
I don't know if you bring it up.
Travis can bring it up.
But if you see that flyer, it's a great flyer.
You know, I have a degree in design, but I've done lots of flyers since I was 14, 48 years.
And when this came off the printing press, I said,
Jesus is like lightning in a bottle.
And I'll tell you why.
We'll put it up in post.
People can see it when we upload it.
Yeah.
I can bring it up if you on.
But the flyer, you may to bring it up or no?
No, sorry.
We'll just add it afterwards.
But the flyer basically says it's black and white's old school 1920 style.
Mm-hmm.
One page.
And it said 65% of Massachusetts is independent.
It's actually 67.
Mm-hmm.
Okay?
Big fart.
And then below that, it says, yeah, we keep voting for Democrat and Republican.
Yeah.
And then below that, it says, look what they have done to us.
And it's got five examples, right?
Cost of living.
Bridges and infrastructure.
Elections which aren't transparent.
You know, you're getting sicker, right?
And so on, right?
So it lays these five things out.
And housing is unaffordable, right?
Because Black Rock and these guys come in and buy these homes.
And then it says, you are independent.
Now be independent.
And then to the right of it, there's a picture of me and my credentials.
It never says vote, Dr.
And we did this deliberately because we want this to be a reflection to the independent voter.
Like, what am I doing?
90% of people don't even know 65% is independent.
They think it's a blue state.
So first of all, and we go to grocery stores as people come out and we hand it.
And only the independent voters take it because we say independent for U.S. Senate.
The Democrats typically say, oh, yeah, he ran against Elizabeth Warren.
racist. That's what they say. And we say, great, you saved us three cents. Three point seven cents. We don't
have to hand you this. And the Democrats will, a Republican say, is he a trumper, right? And we'll say he
was, right? So it's great because this is landing in the hands of the independent voter.
The other thing is we did our own random calling. We called 5,000 independent voters. And we asked them,
would you pledge for Dr. Shiva? Now, out of the 5,000 we call, we have all the data, we may
publishes even, about 1,800 people actually picked up the phone. We had a conversation.
Many of it went to voicemail or bad numbers. Out of those 1800s, 1600 said they vote for me.
That's nearly 70%. Wow. It's massive. So the independent voters typically flip, a majority of them vote
right and the other vote left. And so the independent voters don't have never had a candidate.
but moreover they're hit with this relentless brainwashing.
And the brainwashing is you must vote Democrat or Republican.
It's always some Armageddon is going to take place.
If you don't, like it's always some doomsday event if you don't vote.
That's one brainwashing.
The second thing that they do is, well, this guy may be a pedophile and this guy may be an axe murderer.
Let's go with the axe murderer, right?
The lesser of two evils.
So what they're doing mentally brainwashing people is to lower their standards,
So like garbage.
And this is what they've done.
And then the third thing is they say you're spoiling, you're going to, you're wasting
your vote.
So they have a number of brainwashing that keep hitting people.
But this flyer is beautiful because we will hand it out.
You can watch people reading it all the way to their car.
They'll take it in their car because it's hitting them in their third eye.
It's saying, what am I doing?
It's a very self-reflective mirror.
And our goal is we get these out, volunteers doing it.
We're wearing a hat that says independent.
The flyer says independent.
And you're saying it in, so you create this triangle, this visual triangle for the person.
And they're taking it volunteer.
We're not shoving it in front of their face.
So it's really powerful.
So we have volunteers coming from all over the country, David.
A guy just came in from Virginia.
Someone just flew in from California.
Someone just drove up from Florida.
Someone came in from Pennsylvania.
Because we know that Massachusetts is the epicenter of the global swarm.
It is where all the headquarters of the swarm is.
The backdoor portal to Twitter was created here.
Social media companies at the Belford School, Kennedy School.
Every major economic collapse, every major disaster, every major war can be traced to the one-mile radius between MIT and Harvard.
Everything.
All the thieves are created here.
You know, they are.
So we are in the epicenter, and my winning a Senate election would be a bomb.
Now, if you talk to analysts, they'll tell you that the 100 most powerful people on the world,
you know who they are?
They're the 100 U.S. senators.
Not in the 100 most powerful people in the world, power, is there the 100 U.S. senators.
And those senators have quite a bit of power.
They can call investigations.
They can challenge unanimous consent.
many other things.
And these senators never exercise that power, ever.
My being in Senate, I will exercise that power.
Because I don't owe anything to the other 99, because I'm not in their game.
Rand Paul plays a game.
Bernie Sanders plays the game.
It's all acting.
So that's why, if you look at my track record, David, of running an independent movement,
winning, winning, winning, imagine what can happen if I'm in the Senate.
And the last two campaigns I ran, David,
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
Those were exposing campaigns, but this one, we can actually win.
We get down the debate stage.
Number two, we get those flyers out.
And it's low cost.
We're not going to spend millions on TV.
It's those flyers.
They don't have any volunteers, David.
They don't have any people.
All they do is after Labor Day, this is how, and this is to everyone.
This is how they run their campaigns.
They raise their, each wing has their donors.
they give these guys money in their left pocket,
then they take money out of the left pocket
and put it in the right pocket,
which is all the media companies.
So it's just money circulating around
the people go to the same parties.
It's not anything bottoms up.
So after Labor Day,
both will start taking TV ads,
and that's a campaign.
That's not a freaking campaign.
And the other aspect of it is
you get a three-way debate.
They can't just play this.
Well, you know, I'm an ex-murderer,
but he's a pedophile game,
You know, the lesser of two evils.
They can't play that game because, and you can't attack both the other people.
You have to have something that you talk about.
I think that's a little bit more positive.
It's a big game changer to get into the debates.
It's difficult enough for independents and third parties to get on the ballot.
It's nearly impossible to get into the debate.
So that is a big opportunity.
Let me ask you something, though.
I began the program today with talking about how they're trying to create a left and right divide over the data centers and the flock cameras.
and the police state that's coming in.
And so I'm coming across article after article
where the left complains about the right that's opposing this stuff.
Oh, you don't want to oppose this because the right oppose it.
But especially on the right, the right will say,
yeah, you've got all these environmentalists and people like that on the left.
Look at how the Democrat socialists are protesting these data centers.
We need these data centers to fight China and all the rest of this stuff.
And so they're starting to play the left-right game over the data centers
and I've never seen an issue where there is so much agreement that breaks the partisan divide.
So they're going to focus, I think, on that particular issue.
What have you said about that?
Well, I've been speaking about this as a technologist for many years.
I don't know if you know, David, I have the three earliest U.S. patents on AI.
I was one of the leading AI researchers in the 80s and 90s.
I built one of the earliest LLM models.
It was interesting when my three patents expired on,
text-based, you know, chatbots, you can look at it via email.
That's when chatGPT came.
Okay, so we were seriously thinking about suing them because there's a six-year window.
It's very expensive.
But nonetheless, if you look at technology always comes, real innovation.
And whenever technology comes, we as people get very excited because we know it can lead to
greater liberation, innovation, wealth.
But ultimately, that technology gets consolidated by a few.
So when the printing press came, you know, it was great.
But however, five major publishing companies came.
And so if you wanted to get a bestselling book out, you had to find an agent,
and they created all these layers.
When the internet came, we and I heard a book called Arts in the Internet,
and we talked about the power of the Internet.
But now that too got consolidated, right?
Google, YouTube, you know, a few guys.
Before, the idea was we each built our own websites and we went direct.
Once the search engine companies came and they got consolidated, they controlled who had access.
So, and ultimately, when you look at AI, it's a very powerful technology, but that too is getting the real issue is who's going to own the compute.
Okay, who will own the compute.
The technology should be for all.
And what purpose will they use it for?
I mean, that's the thing that concerns me.
you look at the fact, and we saw this with Doge, they can go through a massive amount of data
and find the needle in that haystack. And of course, we all know that we commit three felonies
a day, as Harvey Silverglade talked about years ago. The law becomes so complex that if you want to
identify somebody, you target somebody, bring me the man, I'll find the crime. And Trump has
already done that. He did that with Pulte, going back against some of the people that Trump went
to attack or to get even with. And he went through their real estate history. And he found a couple
places where they said that they were going to use their property for personal services,
and they used it. They never did live there. And so they're coming after them for mortgage fraud.
That can happen to anybody when you have AI that's able to go back and audit each and every one of us all the time.
Yeah. So the real issue to me, David, whether it's AI, quantum computing, any of this is who owns it.
you know, there are certain, and I believe that
internet and AI, it's the longer discussion we'd have, should be free
and the compute should be unlimited for all people.
So there was an organization which understood this and the founders had it.
And it's going to, may sound anachronistic,
but it is the United States Postal Service.
The United States Postal Service was set up as an infrastructure by Franklin
to support a communications technology, which was a postal service.
So if you go look at the history of that,
prior to the USPS being set up of 1787,
the Crown owned all the distribution of letters.
And they would open them up.
And in fact, Benjamin Franklin was a postmaster general for the Crown's post office.
And he was aware that during the Revolutionary,
they were opening up everyone's letters.
So this infrastructure of delivering mail is a technology, right?
That was manipulated by the Crown.
So when the Postal Service was set up,
it was sort of a quasi-government,
private people's organization.
It's quite fascinating.
If you look at the history of the Postal Service,
and it allowed a letter to be sent
from point A to point B,
and the receiver is the one who paid for it.
And they made it very cheap.
And the Postal Service was an infrastructure play
that was created to support open and free communication.
And furthermore, if anyone opened a letter in transit,
22 years since in prison, that was the encryption, okay?
Right.
You got thrown in jail.
Right.
So quite a performance.
found organization. But the philosophy of the Postal Service, why the founders, Franklin,
the vision was infrastructure for people's communication. Okay. Now, in 1997, you know, I created the
first email system in 1978. And at that time when I created that, I went on to have a second
life an email to analyze email for the White House and I created a company called Echo Mail. But in 1997,
I was very concerned as my company was growing because I saw email volume was growing and snail
mile volume in 1997 was going down.
And I went to the post office and I said, hey, look, you guys should also have a public
email service that is defended by the constitution, meaning you can't open up mail because
private companies were taking over mail communication.
And when people are signing up for email, they were giving up these constitutional rights.
So government was outsourcing to private companies with email.
And the private companies could open up letters because they're not bounded by the provisions within the Postal Service was.
The Congress had put postal service that said, who are you?
Your 29-year-old kid.
You don't know anything.
We're bigger than Walmart.
Get out of here.
We don't need to be the email business, but they should have.
If Franklin were alive today, he would have made sure they were.
And in fact, I said we should have public mail and social media.
You say?
because any communication, because then you have a constitutional way to protect yourself way beyond
encryption.
All right.
They didn't listen.
And in 2011, Postal Service was going out of business.
I was interviewed by Time Magazine.
I said, these guys are idiots.
They could have made a lot of money by charging, let's say, $25 a year for a postal protected.
Now, I actually still believe that the Internet and these email services and, in fact, AI,
compute should be free for all Americans, free, unlimited, because it's going to unleash innovation.
But what the elites or the swarm wants to do is to consolidate it among the few.
We've seen Sam Altman go before Congress say, this is just too powerful.
You can't let have ordinary people have access to this.
Now, everyone needs to have access to it.
Because what AI actually is, it's not an application.
It is work.
It is workers.
So if I start a company right now, if I have an idea, the ability for my idea to get executed is a function of getting workers.
In order to get labor, I have to go to a VC.
And the VC will ultimately own 90% of my company and will dictate what I do.
But with AI, I don't have to hire workers.
Depending on my creativity, these workers can come up with great ideas.
So you can have infinite ideas, infinite wealth in some ways for all humanity.
It's two ways to look at it, right?
In that model, but the elites don't want to do that.
They want to restrict them by, and they want to get rid of working people.
Well, let me, let me turn it to the combination of flock cameras and data centers,
which makes it a police surveillance state.
That's where they want to use it.
Yeah, the ability to do, to basically do warrantless tracking of cars.
And that's really the concern that I have about it.
I mean, you've got some people on the left, they're concerned about water usage and utility,
bills and things like that, and those are legitimate concerns, but those could all be handled.
The thing that I'm concerned about is the surveillance aspect of it. Have you addressed that?
Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. If each one of us has AI compute, we will build technologies
against that, David, say? But if they have all the AI compute and it's consolidated, we don't
have any way to fight. So my view is that human, human creativity is infinite. It's really absolutely
infinite and history shows that. But the ability to execute on that creativity is a function of the
tools. Now, when I created email in 1978, how was a 14 year old kid able to do that? Because
I was given access to mainframe computers because I, you know, went to NYU as a kid and I was,
you know, I worked my butt off. But I was able to get access in Rutgers Medical School to people who were
40, 50 years older than me and given access to the compute.
Now, imagine how many other 14-year-old kids there are.
So my view as an innovator who keeps innovating stuff and new inventions is that
innovation is in everyone's DNA.
You know, innovation will occur anytime, any place by anybody if you give everyone
infrastructure equal access.
So the AI compute must be dispersed to everyone.
That's how we fight it because then we'll come up with our own solutions.
When quantum computing comes, it's going to reduce a lot of the energy issues, actually.
And it's actually going to bust up even Bitcoin, right?
Because you can break a lot of these prime factorization.
But the bottom line is there are certain technologies, particularly AI, which are human knowledge.
It's all knowledge extracted from us.
It cannot be centralized.
So once it's centralized, it becomes a surveillance state.
Once it's centralized, it's about getting rid of working people.
It's about vast depopulation.
And I think one of the things is important coming from you because of your experience in tech
and because you see the bigger picture and you've got a historical perspective,
but you also have a tech perspective,
we're putting stuff out there and we're not even thinking about how it's going to be used.
In other words, we've got a local city here in Oxford,
spent nearly $10 million putting in a bunch of flock cameras.
And they never thought about any rules about how these things are going to be used
until after the fact they still haven't put anything out there.
We had some people say,
well, you know you really need to hang on with that.
We're going to end the program, but I want to go ahead and play it.
We're ending the program, but can you hang around for just another minute or so?
Because I've got a couple of questions that people put on here,
and we're going to let it run just a little bit longer for today.
Why are you able to stay around a little bit longer?
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
Yeah, I have interesting.
Yeah, we'll stay.
All right.
Well, I want to say the people that are listening to us live on radio,
thank you so much for joining us.
And we will have an extended interview
with Dr. Shea.
We've got some questions that people had for him,
and we're going to give those to him.
That'll be on the upload that we put up later today on Rumble.
Thank you.
All right.
Now we're,
let's continue with this because I wanted to get some of these questions there.
One of them is from Lance,
who's working the board today,
and he said, what do you think about this first past the post voting system?
Because I think that's one of the things that puts us,
locks us into this two-party system.
What do you think about that?
Which one, David?
the first pass a vote. First pass a post. So that we've got, you know, as soon as somebody gets
50% they're in or the highest one that is that is in there. We don't have, in other words,
some of the alternatives like ranked choice voting and things like that would be.
Yeah, I've heard of ranked choices. Sounds like that, you know? I believe this is where
if you get a plurality, right? Yes. Well, what happens with ranked choice is you have,
everybody gets to go through and rank their choices. Now, if the first guy doesn't get more than 50%,
your first choice doesn't.
Then what they do is nobody, if nobody gets past 50%,
then they come back and they knock off the one choice of everybody.
And then they go back and tabulate these things again
until they get somebody that goes past 50%.
And then in that model, is the guy who get 50% win?
Is that the winner?
I think so.
Yeah, Lance, you can address this if you want.
So first past the post, it's the person that gets the fewest votes
gets taken off the ballot so people list, you know, their first choice and second choice.
There's also approval rating voting where you just give each candidate a number from one to 10
or one to five and tabulate that all up at the end.
Just anything.
They gradually drop off the people.
It's kind of the type of thing that we used to do in a nomination convention where we would
have a lot of candidates who would be running.
And the lowest vote total goes out and you keep doing it over and over again until you got a
winner that's over 50%.
It's just to avoid the whole splitting the vote thing where, you know, if you have two people
that are very similar in policy, they can, you know, start leaching votes from each other.
Yeah, that kind of addresses the whole wasting your vote type of argument that they have.
Yeah, so let's just look at that.
Let's say you have three candidates.
I mean, let's just apply it here.
Let's just look at a scenario, right?
Let's say a Republican Democrat and Independent myself, right?
Mm-hmm.
So in that model, people go vote, right?
So I guess you keep voting, right, in this model?
Well, what happens is, let's say that you're the number two choice of a lot of people,
and maybe the Republican drops off.
So then what they do is they go back and they take the people who had voted for the guy who was the lowest voter, right?
The people who, he was their first choice, they go back and they reallocate those.
So if you were the second choice, you would get those votes.
No, but how do they reallocate those votes?
So they do it by computer.
When you put your ballot in, you put your first choice on your self.
Second choice and third choice.
I see.
I see.
I see.
Okay.
Right.
So let's see you have Republican Democrat and independent and 30% of people vote for the Democrat,
or let's say 40% vote for the Democrat, 40% vote for me and 20% voted for the Republican.
They look at all that 20% and look at what their second choice was.
That's right.
Right?
And then they just reallocate.
So it is like ranked choice voting, right?
Sort of similar.
Right, Lance?
Yeah.
Yeah, this is ranked choice I was talking about.
Well, it's interesting.
I mean, I have to model it out, you know, mathematically.
But I think the intention there is that if the Republican was similar to my views, right?
In that case, I would end up getting his votes because people would have put him first because they were ours, right, just for party loyalty.
And they may have put me, Dr. Shiva second, because I'm an independent, but still have certain views that I'm.
support. And it also should address it. I mean, the Republicans oppose this very vehemently,
but you look at it, their whole argument is, and sometimes the Democrats, you say, well, you're
costing us a third party or an independent is costing us the vote. But when you look at it,
they wouldn't have that stolen vote argument that would be completely gone. They'd say, well,
I mean, at the outset, at the outset, Travis and Lance, it sounds not like a bad model, you know,
because it looks like if I'm a voter and I'm typically voting party loyalty,
but I know this guy's saying good stuff, I'll give my vote there as a loyalist.
And then as a principled person, at least I'll give the vote over to me.
Right.
That's right.
Right?
So in that sense, it could be pretty good, right?
I agree.
I've got another.
Yeah.
Anyway, I think it's headed in a direction that could be supportive of alternate views.
I agree. I think so. I got another question here. This is from Jerry Alatalo. He says,
please ask Shiva for his serious take on the bombshell Dr. David Martin appearance last night on Jimmy Dore. I don't know what that was. Do you?
No, but I don't know what maybe. So I have a, I've had a feud with Jimmy Dore. Okay. Jimmy Dore, again, as an opportunist.
He, I do know, I've, so during COVID, if you remember, I was the first guy who came out there.
Jimmy Dore really didn't know what was going on.
Jimmy Dore was a booby Kennedy star.
You can fill in the blank.
Okay.
And he was promoting Kennedy.
And I was hammering Kennedy for what he was actually doing,
which is promoting lockdowns,
you know, making the Vax anti-Vax argument versus, you know,
the immune health issue, you know, the fake Maha movement.
And then Dore would attack me online.
And then after Kennedy went completely pro-Zionist, he said the Palestinians are the most pampered people on the planet, then Doher started attacking Kennedy.
But more recently, he started appreciating Kennedy again.
Because if you notice something fascinating has occurred, it's a distraction piece, David.
Kennedy was on this thing and Laura Logan and these people were promoting him, again, opportunist.
Kennedy was saying, oh, my God, they're stealing Oregon.
from people, okay?
Big, you know, making that huge news.
Meanwhile, two important things got passed by his blessings.
A CDC director gets appointed who's massively pro-vaccine mandate.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
That's a big news.
And the second thing was they approved the MRI flu vaccine.
So these two things were the big things.
Now the MRI vaccine was just for COVID.
It's for all flus.
So that's what Mardana always wanted, right?
They wanted the entire market.
And he distracts people with an executive order about childhood vaccines, which is just a head fake.
I mean, he doesn't have the ability to set these vaccine schedules.
They're set by the state and local government.
Exactly.
So everything Kennedy does is to appease this manipulated maha people who we actually broke away a lot of people from him.
So I'm not sure what David Martin is except, you know, I don't know much about him.
You know, last, you know, I do know he says stuff, but if he believes what he says, people
have told them, why aren't you supporting our movement?
Here's the thing, David, we actually have built a political bottoms up movement.
You'll have these grifters talking, getting views and clicks, but we actually have an
organization.
We get people to do action.
Why aren't they supporting?
They will go to great means not to mention my name or our movement.
That's what I find fascinating.
Yeah.
It's really fast.
Like, we actually have an organization, right?
So that tells me they will expose stuff.
And that's a class that I put David Martin into.
And if Jimmy Dorr is giving him views, you know, Jimmy Dorr again will not put me on.
People have repeatedly asked him.
So I would urge, and this is not being egomaniacal, is go judge these podcasters.
Ask them, why don't you put Dr. Shivon, MIT, Ph.D, multiple degrees, right?
Inventor scientists, you know, publishes in all the major journals.
won every award, why aren't you putting him on it?
And he's been on the forefront of fighting and he has a movement.
Why don't you put him on?
And that's a litmus test for you to find out whether these podcasters are real or not.
David will put me on because David Knight, as I know, is principled and he wants to build a movement.
He wants to see fundamental change from below.
I do.
And if you got something that you're working on, why wouldn't people want to hear what you have to say?
I mean, we want to hear all views out there.
But David, I have, they all follow me.
Joe Rogan follows me.
right and but he will put others who put me on their shows who are if you look at their views
and clicks far lower than mine but they go to extreme things not to mention my name and to
intentionally not put me on because by putting me on it blows up everything for them because
I have made it even in the standards of the swarm without ever compromising you see and my journey
reveals to people that you don't have to compromise
you can be principal, then still be quote unquote successful.
They want to train people into monkey brains that you must beg to them.
You must go to Epstein Island.
You must do these things in order to get success.
I agree.
So my journey completely breaks that.
And it's unfortunate for them because all of them are bought and paid for.
Jimmy Dorr's bought and paid for.
You know, Alex Jones is bought and paid for.
Joe Rogan is bought and paid for.
They are controlled either internally by their desire for incredible wealth.
or money or by external puppet masters. Nonetheless, they're controlled by Mammon. And that's what,
that's where we're at. So I don't know about Martin, but I wasn't that impressed by him.
You know, many people have reached out to him. He does a schick, but he does not support building a
bottoms up movement. He doesn't. I agree. Yeah, it is. It really is bottoms up and it is at the
local level that we have to get active. You know, David, I'm doing your show right now. I have three
volunteers at the local grocery store who I'm going to be training how to hand out flyers.
How many Senate candidates do that?
But that's what we're doing.
That's true action.
Like I have to go out.
It's almost 95 degrees here.
People are coming in from different parts of Massachusetts.
But I want to teach them how to get over their shyness because it's very hard for citizens
to take time out of their workday, stand in front of a grocery store and interact with people.
The swarm wants us to be in this 2D social media world, which is highly, highly controllable,
manipulable.
They don't want you going out in the multi-dimensional physical world, seeing people,
and you'll find out people are not all demoralized.
People when they see our flyers are like, this is cool, right?
They get excited.
They want people to live in this mode of friction.
I've got two quick questions for you.
One of them is a little bit challenging.
The other one maybe is a home run for you to hit here.
Let's see, this is time non-tide says,
ask Dr. Shiva if he supports public health,
that is government coercing Americans.
He once said that, don't scroll that up,
hang, pull it back there, I lost it.
He once said that old people perhaps ought to have been isolated.
What would you say about that?
That old people ought to have been isolated, I guess.
No, I haven't said that.
Okay.
No, no.
If you go look at the letter,
wrote to Trump, I broke it up with four groups. I said you have people who have, who are in
ICU's, you know, who have major, you know, immune issues, right? I said, those people should be
quarantined and protected, in the worst case if they have serious illness. Number one group. The second
group of people was, I mean, we can bring up the letter. You can go to Shiva for Senate if you
people find it. But I said, there are four groups of people, healthy people.
people who have COVID.
I forget the other group.
Oh, people are immunocompromised.
And the first group are people who are actually in ICU's, okay?
And have serious health issues.
So for all of them, I said that people should take a dose of high-dose vitamin A,
high-dose vitamin Z, zinc, iodine, quercetin.
You can find the protocol.
Be healthy people should go back to work.
And they should be isolated.
They should work and they should also take about 5,000, 10,000 I use vitamin D and work normally.
There was no reason to shut down the economy.
I took a very small sliver of people.
And I said the people who had COVID, they should take that and get if they were heading into the ICU,
100 grams of vitamin C titrated because that really boosts up the immune system and stops the
cytokine storm.
So my goal was the right medicine for the right person at the right time.
That's personalized medicine.
It's not one size fits all, which is what they want to do.
So in this case, you're saying, okay, these people are healthy.
Okay, these people are heading into the ICU.
They need something to really support their immune system.
These people are immunocompromise.
And for them, they need a much higher dose of vitamin A and D, not just 10,000 IUs, 50,000 IUs.
And the people who are seriously ill, they should obviously rest and take care of themselves.
They shouldn't be, frankly, exposed to all the chaos that's going around.
Right.
Right.
Of course, the game was that starting two months before 9-11, the game was to just like everybody
down until you got your vaccine ready.
And nothing else is a line.
And none of it was, in fact, that people were isolated, they should go on a high-d
vitamin A&D in a boost, right?
But the idea was if you're already in the hospital, if you're sick, why should you,
if anyone should be quarantined, it should be those people.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay, the next one should be an easy one for you. Hi, Boo. So what is Shiva's view on Israel controlling our Congress?
I think it's an easy one, you know? I think you guys may see the video I did, which went viral, and it came out very naturally. It's a term that came out and it went viral. Everyone started using it. But just to let you know that, to me, the Israel question really brings up the big difference between being Jewish.
which is really more of an ethnic question.
A lot of my friends growing up were Jewish.
And a lot of them were anti-Zionist.
They knew the difference.
And the bigger issue is you don't have to be Jewish to be Zionists.
There are Muslim Zionists.
There are a lot of Hindu Brahmin Zionists.
A lot of Christian Zionists.
A lot of Christian evangelical Zionists.
You don't have to be Jewish.
In fact, Jewish or Zionists are a very small portion.
Since 1984, David, when I learned about all this,
I've been a big proponent of educating people on this.
I ran lots of protests against people like Mayor Kahana when he came to MIT.
You know, educating people this fundamental difference because Zionism is a political
ideology.
It's very much like Brahmanism of the caste system in India or Nazism, right?
They take some religious stuff, wrap it with politics, but the idea is to justify a few
people should rule over a lot of people.
And AAC, to answer the question, obviously, I do not support them.
is the manipulation of that at the level of elected officials,
who basically they control their policy and many, many policy of the United States.
But I think the bigger issue here is that Zionism is racism in the service of the swarm or imperialism.
That's what it really is, just like Brahmanism is.
So in Hindu, you have the Hindu religion.
We can talk about that.
Then they wrapped it around grammatical thought where a few people should control over the 1.6 billion
Hindus, right? So that was based on these people being better than the rest. So these political
ideologies when they're, you know, framed into religious contexts, they're very, very powerful
to manipulate people. That's right. And that's what Zionism is. But it was done by a guy who was an
atheist, theater rehearsal, you know? And that's the power of combining church and state,
really, is what we're talking about here. And it's very anti-American. Well, if you were going to
take money from APAC, you wouldn't be worried about getting on the debate stage. But thank you for not
doing that. And again, just to remind people, Dr. Shiva has been offered an invitation to get on to the
PBS debate there as a Senate candidate. And he just has to cross the threshold for the donations.
He'd not really been focusing on it this particular time because he'd changed the way the structure was
set up. So it's a last minute purge. If you can help him, go to his web. Where's the best place
people can go to? They can go to Shiva, S-H-I-V-A, numeral four, Senate.com. There's a
donate button or if you want to go direct Shiva for
Senate.com slash donate.
Okay. And we're very transparent.
We list how much we currently have.
There's a thermometer. It's right up there
so you can see it. Right. How much we have
right now. All right. So we'll put that
in the show notes. Thank you so much for staying
extra time even with us today. I appreciate it.
It's been fascinating to talk to you. Thank you so much. Dr. Shiva.
I already. It would be well.
Thank you. And thank you, folks. That's our program for today. Have a good day.
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