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If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor. Free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. All right, joining us now is Dr. Peter Hammond. I've talked to him in the past about his amazing life and experience doing missions in South Africa and through the southern part of Africa, going into Marxist nations and the Muslim nations. And he had a very interesting take, I think, on the Olympics. Why are the Olympic Games promoting paganism, perversion, and blasphemy?

He had a, but it's an overall comprehensive take on the history of the Olympics, the ancient history of it, as well as how it's being used to push the new world order and many other things. So joining us now, and of course, let me tell you where you can find him at frontlinemissionsa.org. Dr. Peter Hammond, thank you for joining us, sir. Dr. Peter Hammond Thank you so much, David. I'm sure we've all been absolutely horrified over the deliberate blasphemy, and it's not just offensive to Christians. That's not so important. How I feel isn't very important. The important thing is blasphemy, and it's not just offensive to christians that's not so important how i feel isn't very important the important thing is blessed to me and it's offensive to god almighty god our creator

and the eternal judge before whom each one of us will stand and you know it's kind of extraordinary first of all have this nonsense that the olympics committee claimed oh it wasn't meant to offend anyone we're just wanting to have a tolerance and inclusion. And interestingly, at first they said, no, it wasn't meant to be a parody of the Lord's Supper, based on Leonardo da Vinci's iconic painting. No, it was actually meant to be some pagan festival with Dionysus. And yet, it bore a remarkable resemblance to Leonardo da Vinci's iconic painting,

and the press received on the program that this would be the Last Supper. In fact, even sets and press releases beforehand, the programs distributed to the people on the banks of the Seine River, that section of the procession of the opening ceremony was going to be the last supper and you had an interesting take on this which i had not talked about when i talked about it i said you know we've had parodies of the last supper it's a piece of art and so forth a lot of people have done parodies of it but the thing that was interesting about this one and so offensive was the fact that they combined a parody with debauchery and And your take on it was interesting because you talked about the subtext of the fact that

it was Dionysius, a Bacchanalia. And talk about that, the wine aspect of it. Now, we've seen at Olympics openings, they've been going increasingly back to the pagan roots of the Olympics. And you can see, you know, whether you're talking about Athens or Atlanta or Barcelona, London, they all have been getting increasingly more pagan type of occultic even ceremonies, which is going back to the roots of the Olympics, which always was dedicated to Zeus and a whole pantheon of Greek gods. We're grateful that they don't sacrifice hundreds of animals and engage in animal cruelty at the beginning of the Olympics, which they used to. Yeah. Nevertheless.

That may be coming. I don't know. But now what they're doing is, if you think the Lord's Supper is so critical to Christian faith, this isn't about Leonardo da Vinci. This is about the Lord's Supper. They're not trying to mock Leonardo da Vinci, the artist. They're trying to mock the Lord's Supper because the Lord's Supper symbolizes, I mean, this is where the communion service was inaugurated.

The Last Supper before our Lord was betrayed and crucified, the body of the Lord symbolized by the bread. His body will be broken for us. And the wine is symbolic of his blood shed for us. This is at the heart of our salvation. And now in this Olympic ceremony, opening ceremony, which of course costs millions of Euros to put together,

this is a massive operation, and you have the Greek god Dionysus, who is the god of wine and the god of debauchery lying on the table where the bread and the wine should be. So you've got debauchery, instead of celebrating salvation, they are replaced with celebrating sin. And remember, Christianity believes in salvation from sin, whereas the pagan religion of Sabbatanism, which many of the modern elite hold to, is salvation through sin. You are saved through sin. In fact, it is through debauchuchery through breaking all the laws of god

it is the whole sabbatan religion which is at the heart of the illuminati for example sabbatanism which started in 1666 uh through sabbatai zebi um which is obviously the religion of many of the elites in hollywood and government today, you can see it. Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein epitomize Sabbatianism, salvation through sin. You deliberately break all the laws of God, and you throw yourself fully into debauchery. So you celebrate sin instead of celebrating salvation. Yes. Instead of Christ's sinless body, what you're doing is you're using the body to create sin and to celebrate that, as you pointed out, salvation through that sin. It is an interesting juxtaposition.

And then, of course, you know, the wine aspect of Dionysius and the Bacchanalia, you know, saying that it's not, the wine is not representative of the blood, but, you know, it's wine and it's drunkenness. Yes, and it's almost a religious ceremony that you engage in debauchery and getting drunk. This isn't a sober recognition that my sin led to the broken body and the shed blood of my Savior, which is, of course, something of repentance and regret in our hearts and souls as we look at this and think, you know, this is terrible what my sin caused,

the suffering that this caused my Savior. But instead they are celebrating a debauchery, they're celebrating drunkenness, and it's got almost a religious significance. They really do worship their sin. They celebrate their sin. They love their sin. That is obviously the religion of many of the elites in the world today. they really do worship their sin. They celebrate their sin, they love their sin. That is obviously the religion of many of the elites in the world today.

Bear in mind that despite the huge amounts of outrage around the world, the French church outrage, Christians around the world outrage, and even Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the Speaker of the House of Representatives saying, this is disgusting, this is shameful, this is outrageous. And yet the French president, Macron, he comes out and says, we're proud of this. And this ceremony is about who we are as Frenchmen. And the mayor of Paris also said that they're proud of this and this is wonderful and this represents who they are. You know, blasphemous

junkets and anti- wonderful this represents who they are you know blasphemous junkets and and anti-christian pagans uh they they are actually proud they're not actually rebuking this chap now interesting that the person who put this together you know putting some um freak show of um perverts and people who look more like the degenerates in the Hunger Games panem, the capital of the Hunger Games scenario, all with their weirdly dyed hair and their bizarre outfits, and you've got the bearded man or the bearded woman who's dressed in this provocative type of dress with a whole lot of things hanging out,

and absolutely gross, disgusting, bizarre freak show, and transvestites and perverts and the whole LGBT crowd, they're not celebrating tolerance for all kinds of religious beliefs. They're celebrating only one kind of religious belief, and that's LGBTQ and the whole perverted bunch and the trans crowds. This is what was being promoted there and this is what the french president and french mayor of paris claims they're proud of and this is about who we are and they paid millions of euros to put together this whole um event which by the way it's got more than that um obviously attacking the heart of our salvation the salvation of christ

is a very bad But they also said the pale rider of Revelation riding down the Seine carrying the Olympic banner. And you know the pale rider, hell follows after him. And you can also think of the golden calf that's up on the platform with the Olympic rings. So why would you choose a golden calf? And it reminds us of the… It's just a coincidence. Right? It's not, yeah.

Remember what President Franklin Delano Roosevelt said, in politics nothing happens by accident. That's right. And that was also repeated in different words by the American ambassador to Britain, Joseph Kennedy, the father of President John F. Kennedy, Joseph

Kennedy once said, in politics, there are no accidents. That's right. And I think that this is true, and people don't spend tens of millions of euros on something if it doesn't epitomize what they believe. You can be sure the opening for the Olympics was not just approved

by the Olympic Committee, it was approved by the French government and the Paris City Council because it represents all of them. And they wouldn't have been allowed to bring it to fruition unless it had been approved on a national, municipal level, as well as the international Olympic Committee level. And so they've got all these bizarre things, including a figure of Mary Antoinette walking around decapitated

with her head under her arm, which is not even funny. I mean, that's disgusting. The French Revolution beheading 30,000 people, including women and children, it's not something to be proud of. It's part of French history. But there's many other things they could have celebrated. They could have had John the Ark. I mean, you think ofance has got some great history

they could have turned to but why did they have to turn to paganism and occultism and even anti-christian blasphemy is that really what they are about is this epitomizing the new world order and the powers that should not be i think it is yeah it's nihilism as you pointed out you know the pale rider the the death that was there, the golden calf, all that stuff is very deliberate when they they think a great deal about the sets that they have and the symbolism that they put out there. This is not an accident. And as you mentioned, we've got Republicans who criticize it, but they're still going to fund it. And you've got Jill Biden who loved it. Jill said this is just great.

And so she she loved it as much as the Marxistist mayor of paris and as much as macron loved it so they're getting what they want and and of course in the lead-up to this they're they're bragging about how they changed all the laws and are setting up all kinds of surveillance and things like that which is going to remain that's going to be part of the permanent infrastructure to create more surveillance more of a police state And so it is really pushing us into that new world order, isn't it? At BetMGM, Ontario's best casino action is just a click away. Play thrilling games like Premium Blackjack Pro, the dazzling MGM Grand Emerald Knights, or try to score a Gretzky Gold Lucky Tap.

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advisor free of charge. But MGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Incredibly. So, and this isn't just the Olympics. We've been seeing statues and monuments to all kinds of pagan gods over the years. At the Athens Olympics, of course, they had Zeus, they had Athenia, they had Eros, the god of love hanging over it all.

They had under Eros, there's a bunch of these frolicking, scantily clad people clutching and releasing one another and arrows hovering over them. So they've had a bunch of pagan depictions, centaurs, half man, half horse, launching shafts of life at the beginning of Olympic ceremonies. At Lancer it was also extremely pagan and lots of the ancient pagan Greek gods and after the Athens Olympics, it was said, Zeus must have been very pleased.

Never has so many people worldwide sung his praises, and never has he had such a large flock. And so it seems that the powers that should not be, the globalists, the New World Order, are using these Olympic events, which, let's face it, over a billion people watch these opening events. So this isn't somebody offended somebody at a school play. This is the biggest global event, and the New World Order crowd cannot resist the opportunity

to promote their religion. I mean, consider, if you or I were invited to speak at any major event, no matter where it is, we would inject our faith. I couldn't help you do it. It doesn't matter where I'm invited. I've been in universities, army bases. I've been in Muslim terror camps. I've been in communist events.

I've been in cults, churches, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and others. At every occasion, I'm brought in the gospel. I can't help it, that's who I am, and I've got my message and I'll bring it in. Well, the International Olympic Committee chose a well-known LGBTQ activist who's into the trans movement and so on to put together this whole debauchery on the Seine River. As some people said, this was insane because the name of the river is the Seine River. So what you saw was an insane opening ceremony

to the Paris Olympics. And the whole ceremony was done on the Seine River. And it's like an open sewer, just like the Seine itself is an open sewer. The imagery is as well, isn't it? It is an open sewer because the 777-kilometer river, it's like the heart of Paris, and Paris is built around the Seine River. And interestingly, you'll find it's almost impossible to believe.

I mean, I don't understand how it's possible. They spent a billion euro. That's euro. Yeah. A billion euro to clean up the Se sand so it would be clean enough for this operation and paris must do a lot of litter and pollution if it costs that much to clean up the river i mean i would have thought a million euro could have done the job but what do i know but they didn't clean it up they've got athletes who are in the hospital with e coli i mean the two of

them are in the hospital so it's pretty bad you You talked a lot about the original Olympics, and I think it is kind of interesting that, you know, to contrast the ancient Olympics with the modern Olympics. I think that's very important because when the Olympic Committee also got under criticism because some Christian athletes have been forbidden to have Christian symbols on themselves. On one case, a man on a surfboard, a Brazilian athlete was warned, you get the imagery of Christianity off your surfboard or you're disqualified from the Olympics.

Yeah. So when they were criticized, they said, well, the Olympics are very strictly non-religious. Really? Non-religious? That is not true. The Olympics have been, from the very beginning, exceedingly religious. Pagan, of course, but very religious. So, the original Olympics were all done in the name of Zeus, and in fact, the whole pantheon of gods, and every athlete had to swear allegiance to Zeus, and there was a procession which involved taking the sacred fire, the embers, up to the temple of Zeus and the priests carried the embers up and they put the fire in, which

is now symbolized by the Olympic torch coming and lighting and the torch has to start in Athens and it's all very symbolic and so on. And so this is all pagan worship and And then they sacrificed 100 bulls. There was a lot of animal sacrifice before, during, and after every Olympic game. So every single Olympic winner had to sacrifice after their winnings to the Temple of Zeus. And by the way, one of the rewards for the Olympic athletes who won was prostitutes from the Temple of Aphrodite, who's meant to be the goddess of love, so-called, and more like goddess of lust. But the original Olympics were exceedingly pagan, lots of religious activities, and for the Olympics committee today to say, we have strict neutrality, there's nothing religious.

Well, what do you call worshipping Zeus and Eros and Dionysius and all these other things? Are they not religious? I think when I say non-religious, what they mean is non-Christian because they're certainly not non-religious. That is just not true. And so the original Olympics were exceedingly violent, by the way, not only with the killing of animals for sacrifices before the Olympics

and afterwards and after every match but there were one of the Olympic sports was a pentagram and that was where you could use anything from chokeholds dislocations of arms breaking of bones one of the there was really almost no rules. One of the famous athletes, Dionysius, he specialized in thrusting his fingers into a person's abdomen and ripping out his intestines. Another one of their

contestants specialized in breaking fingers. That was one of the sports. The four-horse chariot races were famous exceedingly popular you know think ben hur um but these chariot races involved gory pileups people were often disfigured beyond recognition you know very gory with people cheering these things on so the olympics were really bloody olympics and not just violent to of poor animals who were sacrificed but violence to the contestants and by the way the contestants had to compete completely naked of course only men

were allowed to participate women were not allowed if they were married married women were not allowed in the stands and they'd risk the death penalty like being thrown off the nearby cliffs head first if they attended in the stands but single women attend, and prostitutes from the temple of Aphrodite were part of the rewards for winning athletes. So, you know, the original Olympics were not this good. I don't know why we couldn't have launched an international sports event that wasn't rooted in ancient Greek paganism and was such a checkered past. I mean, was it really necessary? I think it's time for us to launch a new form of international sports.

We don't need the Olympics. And the Olympics seem so corrupt and so anti-Christian, so pagan, and after this, so blasphemous. I don't know how Christians can want to participate. I come from a sporting family. I've got several of my children have won national colours and represented our country overseas. So my wife was very much into sports. And so we love sports. My father used to run the Western Cape Cricket Union. So I feel a little bit of a traitor to speak like this, but we are not against sports, of course. Christians are not anti-sports per se.

We're against idolatry and paganism, but the Bible does have a lot of athletic terms. So, we read in the Bible about running the race and keeping the faith. And in 1 Corinthians 9, the Apostle Paul speaks about every athlete goes into strict training to compete in the games and they do it for a crown that will perish but we do it for a crown that will last for all eternity and he speaks about how we've got to subdue our body and make our body our slave that we will not be disqualified so that we can run the races to get prize. So these are good biblical images. 1 Timothy 4, we read that physical training is of some benefit. That's not of eternal benefit, but it is of some benefit. Our body is the vehicle with which our soul travels this earth to be useful on earth.

So physical sports is lifted up as something commendable, much like being in the military or being a farmer is lifted up as a model of the Christian discipleship walk. So we can learn from sports. play according to the rules, to be gracious winners, to be gracious losers, to play the game for the sake of doing it right. And so in some ways they said sports was preparing us for life. Other times they said sports was preparing us for war. We were told by some teachers, war is the real thing. Sports is just the practice. Yeah.

When you learn some of the skills that you're going to use in the battlefield, you learn on the sports field. And so I'm not against sports, but the Olympics have become absolutely debauched and pagan, and the hostility to Christianity is such that you can understand why so many people, including Elon Musk and Hobby Lobby and others have said they're boycotting the Olympics, withdrawing advertising. And even after all this protest, you still have the French president saying he's proud of this and this is what we are and this is what we are as Frenchmen, as Parisians.

Well, it shows you they are so committed to their pagan religion that these powers that should not be, the globalists, are willing to alienate a lot of people, a lot of sponsors. It's not financially viable to do this. I don't know if you've noticed, but the stands are often empty and they're having trouble selling tickets to the Olympics. People are not filling the stands. People are boycotting.

Many are bored out of their mind or disgusted. And so the Paris Olympics have had the lowest attendance ever. They've never had such bad attendance. And, of course, that's excluding the COVID cult. Lockdown lunacy of the Tokyo Olympics, which was postponed a year, and then they still didn't allow spectators in stands. It all had to be remotely which that's got to be one of the most dull

dud Olympics ever what's an Olympics without spectators well they seem to masquerade madness, lockdown lunacy salvation by vaccination, COVID was more important than the Tokyo Olympics but now you can see

their paganism and their anti-Christian blasphemy is more important than the Tokyo Olympics. But now you can see the paganism and the anti-Christian blasphemy is more important to them than a successful Olympics. Yes. Olympics are meant to be about sports, you would think. But notice how politics is intruding more and more. Now, intriguingly, you might have noticed that Russia and Belarus are not allowed to take part in the Olympics in their own name, with their own flags flags and they're not allowed to have the national anthem played if any of them win anything so they're the as individuals not under the country the march on the country's flag

now i find this interesting because throughout the entire cold war the soviet union was never excluded even while they were oppressing and tormenting and murdering millions of their own citizens. That's an excellent point. I had not heard anybody else point that out. Yeah, that's amazing. I mean, just think that the Soviet Union was invading countries, fomenting

wars and terrorism all over the world. And when they invaded Czechoslovakia in 1968, when they invaded Hungary in 1968 when they invited invaded um hungary in 1956 they were boycotted from the elections from the olympics so this is kind of interesting but at the same time as the soviet union and red china were marching in the olympics with the red flags or the stars and hamas and sickles and so on we in rhodesia and south africa were being boycotted from the olympics we couldn't

take part because we were fighting for our lives against the same communist terrorism that the soviet union was sponsoring worldwide and so little rhodesia and south africa were not allowed to take part in olympics for decades throughout the 60s and 70s and the 80s we were being excluded from the olympics and to let politics interfere with sports, I think, is so wrong. I don't think you should ever be boycotting a country because of the politics. The sportsmen should be allowed to participate because isn't this what helps to lessen tensions and bring about reconciliation between nations and helps alleviate wars? When people can compete and meet with and interact with people of other

nations that might be their political enemies, it is a good thing for the country. That's why we have student exchange programs and sports teams going across the world. It's a lot better than sending armies and bombers across the world. So I think the politicization of it is shameful, but the hypocrisy, the double standards is just so outrageous. How can the Olympic Committee exclude Russia now that they've escaped from communism? But they never boycotted them when they were the most virulent, atheistic, communist, aggressive nation, totalitarian state, smashing their neighbors and exporting terrorism and weapons of mass destruction all over the world.

And we experienced it when I was growing up because we in Rhodesia were having a civilian airline is shot down by Soviet strela missiles, heat-seeking missiles, and the survivor's been cooked and eaten. I mean, for goodness sakes, what kind of atrocities? And this sort of thing was going on in the 70s, and Rhodesia couldn't go to the Olympics, but the Soviet Union could. So, I must say, I despise the International Olympic Committee's hypocrisy. You know, every kind of sin is bad, but the hypocrisy really offends God. And you can just read Matthew 3 to see what the Lord Jesus thinks of hypocrites. His speech against the scribes and the Pharisees,

hypocrites all. And the Olympic committee is shocking in its hypocrisy. And the French government is disgusting in its hypocrisy too. And for them to pretend that, you know, we're neutral when it comes to religion and that we never intended to offend anyone and even lied saying this wasn't meant to be based on the Leonardo da Vinci depiction of the Last Supper. But people who participated in it said they knew that there were to be based on the Leonardo da Vinci depiction of the Last Supper. But people who participated in it said they knew that they were emulating,

they were parodying Leonardo da Vinci's iconic depiction of the Lord's Supper. And it was even on the program. So they lie. That's right. And then when they say intent to offend anyone, that's not true either, because the person they chose to design it all was a well-known lgbtq plus pro um pedophilia type activist who they paid millions to produce this and then he stands up and says i didn't mean to offend anyone well of course he did he's just sorry he got caught yeah he's just sorry he got caught you know the, the point that you're making, too, and I didn't realize all those years that South Africa and Rhodesia and everything were excluded from the Olympics.

I remember, though, the rabid competition between the U.S. and Russia as to who got the most medals. And also with East Germany, you know, that was also a big part. And they wouldn't even total it up. You know, the country's behind the Iron Curtain versus the free countries. And here's how we're competing with medals and that type of thing. So it's always been a big nationalistic thing like that. It was always about the communists. But that's a very interesting point.

They would allow the communists to compete for that. But then when you were fighting the communists, they excluded you. Now, you made a point about why don't we celebrate the heritage of life and liberty that have been the fruit of christianity yes indeed because in fact the only religion in the world you're allowed to denigrate is christianity now i think that's because it's only christian that's true because they're not out there um denigrating, because they're not out there denigrating false religions. They're not out there denigrating, for example, well, let's say, for example, the Quran or Muhammad.

Well, first of all, that gets some serious violence, backlash if they try that. I mean, can you imagine anyone trying to have ridiculing Muhammad or Islam in the opening of the Olympics? I mean, unthinkable. Paris would be burning and so on. But they go to Christianity. Let me interject here. My son says, when are they going to have

a draw Muhammad opening at the ceremony to show how fair and even-handed they are? Yeah, they wouldn't do that, would they? Especially not in Paris with all the migrants that they've got there now. I mean, can you imagine having an depiction of Muhammad being a pig farmer or having a pig on his table or something like this that's exactly it yeah i mean

why would they depict jesus christ as an obese trans woman and um his disciples as a bunch of perverts um and cross dresses and uh bearded woman and you know just the whole lgbtq freak show bizarre and in a sense that's their evangelists you know jesus apostles are his evangelists and the bread and the wines or what's on the table symbolizes his body broken on a cross his blood shed for us and so they replaced it with a pagan greek god of the poetry and wine and you and he's a naked character dressed in blue, painted in blue. Some people say he looks like the smith. And what on earth is this depiction?

Well, you know why he's blue. It's because he's dead. I mean, that's a depiction as well. This is a dead god, this Dionysius, but he symbolizes wine. I mean, he's drunk himself to death, basically. And this is where we should focus our visions of salvation. Salvation in sin, salvation through sin, not salvation from sin. We don't celebrate salvation, we celebrate sin.

And this is what France and the EU and the New World Order actually do represent. Macron is right in that. They represent occultism, blasemy paganism sabbatanism they love their sin they hate the savior and it's also a war on women as you were pointing out earlier the women were not allowed to watch unless they were prostitutes or something and under penalty of death uh they would compete naked and uh but the women were kicked out and so here we have a situation where you know they they had very violent fighting matches and stuff like that. But now we have women who compete in boxing, but now they're having men box the women.

And so many people talked about that aspect, how misogynistic it really is. At the very opening ceremony, they replaced it. It was supposed to be a man and a woman jointly holding a torch. Well, they replaced the woman with a tranny. And then they have some intersex guys who are beating up women and that sort of thing. But it is very misogynistic. And so the question is, you know, not only are they celebrating this culture that is pagan and debauched and everything, but it's also very anti-woman.

And, you know, know that culture that religion and that's supposed to be that's another aspect of hypocrisy they always claim they're there for women and yet when you look at this it is very very anti-woman yes in fact you wonder where are the feminists they meant to speak up for women but in fact they've allowed uh trans men to be proclaimed woman of the year, getting all kinds of women's awards, and then supporting a man, excuse me, a man beating a woman in the face. I mean, that's just so disgusting. And this woman was terrified.

They were afraid she had a broken nose and so on. How is this sports? And we meant to have categories, male, female, and different categories in terms of weight when it comes to boxing and so on, so that it's fair. This is not fair. This is not just. This is not sports.

This is abusive women. And women are seeing their sports invaded, their safe places, even their changing rooms invaded. Women are being excluded. And what are you saying when men are taking women's awards and even Women of the Year awards and this and that? What they're saying is nobody can be a woman as well as a man can. I mean, that's just ridiculous. It's so disgusting.

I think the— Well, you pointed out the heritage of Christianity, and you said in your essay you were talking about how the athletes were professionals, and sometimes they would be highly paid, as our professional athletes are today, but many times part of the compensation would be to be given a slave. Well, it was Christianity that abolished slavery. It's the only culture that has abolished slavery. And slavery still exists in Muslim countries and that sort of thing to this day.

But we also Christians abolished infanticide, which these same people are bringing back. And then on the other side, Christians creating hospitals, libraries, universities, and colleges. These are the types of things that, you know, it is antithetical to what they're doing.

And yet they celebrate. Look at those things. We say, well, those are all good things to save the babies and to recognize that women are equal to men before God. We have different roles, but they are equal in the sight of God. That was a very radical change for the pagan world, wasn't it? Yes. To study what the world was like before the time of Christ, the world before the time of Christ was a world without charity,

without kindness to strangers. It was a world without compassion or even respect for women. Women were treated as lower than slaves. And no Hollywood film does justice to the life of women before Christianity because they will depict a woman walking around freely with open face in Rome and Athens and so on, whereas actually no woman was allowed to walk around on their own in the ancient Roman and Athens. They had to go under male guardianship, even if it was a male slave. But a woman, even a free woman, a princess

couldn't walk around on her own. She didn't have that freedom. She always was under male control. They weren't allowed to even attend meals in their own home without special permission. They were just meant to be bussing around the kitchen and serving, and they had to be in their quarters. And there was such a lot of abuse of women. Women couldn't walk outside without wearing a veil. And this, you wouldn't notice from the Hollywood films, because which actress wants to walk around with her face obscured in these movies?

But, you know, if they were taking the ancient Rome or ancient Greece streets, they wouldn't have had these women walking around with their head and hair and face uncovered. They were compelled to be covered by law. They could get the death penalty for not wearing a veil. And you think that's only Islamic. That's the way the whole world was, Greek, Roman, before Christianity. Christianity deliberately worked to free women on every level. And just think of how the gospel, the message of the resurrection, was first proclaimed by a woman. The first convert in Europe was a woman, Lydia.

And you think how Mary Magdalene was the first at the tomb and the first to proclaim the resurrection. And Christianity gave women worth and respect that had never existed before and only Christianity brought an end to slavery to think every society practiced slavery and human sacrifice even ancient Rome and Greece which is so well thought of

they were sacrificing not only strangers and slaves, they were even sacrificing their own children or wives on occasion you think of how Agamemnon sacrificed his own daughter at the beginning of the siege on Troy in order to bring victory and favorable waves to them. So these Greek kings and Roman kings, they were doing all kinds of hideous things, human sacrifices. Julius Caesar did human sacrifices on occasion and so on.

And now the world has something of selective memory and now idealizes these pre-Christian pagan societies of Greek and Rome and the Olympics, for example, but they don't recognize how Christianity has brought about everything good in this world. We would not want to live in this world if it hadn't been for Jesus Christ and the influence he and his followers and teachings have made on this world. If you just look at literacy, universities, uni veritas, the very name, the etymology of the word, uni veritas, testifies to its Christian origins. Most university professors today don't even believe in truth or want truth, all that can

be known. So I think the pagans of today, they should open up diversities, aversities, polyversities, but a university by definition should be Christian. It's Christians who pioneered the universities, in many cases ministers and missionaries, by the way. In fact, even the whole Slavic language and alphabet was set to writing, created by Christian missionaries to russia so the whole slavic uh alphabet when the communists used to write out their dates and so on they were having to use an alphabet designed by christians and even today when we speak about paris olympics 2024 2024 what yes year of our lord even the dates testifies to the centrality of christ we haven't built built our dating system on the birth of Julius Caesar or Muhammad or anyone else.

It's all Karl Marx. No, our dating system is on Jesus Christ, the most important person who ever lived. He split the river of the ages asunder. He is the hinge of history. All of history is dated B.C. before Christ and Anadomini in the year of our Lord, A.D. And they might even try to change it now to BCE and CE,

but it's still centered around the life of Jesus Christ. He is the one who splits our dating system into going backwards in BC and forward in AD. So even the very name, Parasolumbics 2024, testifies to Christ. Every atheist, pagan, and blasphemer testifies to the centrality of Christ when it arrived to date. And even the fact that we have a seven-day week is because of the acts of creation. God created the world in six days and he rest in the seventh.

The very name restaurant, it first came from Paris. And it came from the scripture, Matthew 11, 28, come unto me all you weary and heavy laden, I will give you rest. The whole scripture is put on the outside of the first establishment for eating in a pleasant environment. And over the years they shortened it to restaurant, which of course is from the French. But the very term restaurant, this came from Christianity. There's so many things that in our society we take for granted. Like if you say goodbye, it comes from the old English, God be with ye.

That's why the spelling is so unique. It's an English prayer, God go with you. And in fact, if you go to Austria today, they greet you with gruskot, or greetings in God. In Switzerland,itzerland's abbreviated gritsy and so again again you can see christianity is throughout our western societies and they're forgetting it in fact they're not forgetting it they deliberately trying to obscure it and denigrate it and replace it with debauchery there's a consistent effort in europe especially

by the eu just think how the european Union has built their parliament in Strasbourg, and I've been there. It's like the Tower of Babel. It's an incomplete building with even the scaffolding on the outside. It's based on Bruegel's depiction of the Tower of Babel, who's a Belgian artist. And you go to Brussels, and I've been there too, and they've got a statue outside the EU building of a woman riding

a beast. For goodness sakes, a woman riding a beast. Why would you do that? And these are all biblical images of Antichrist. Yes. Even Richard Dawkins recently was saying, you know, he still doesn't like Christianity, but he really likes the fruit of Christianity. Let's cut down the tree, but let but he really likes the fruit of Christianity. You know, let's cut down the tree, but let's try to keep the fruit somehow. And Elon Musk in many ways said similar things, not as,

not as direct and as, you know, spreading it out like a dock and said, Oh yeah, I love the culture of the Christians and I, I love the, the cathedrals and I love the, you I love the Christmas music and stuff like that. But that is the type of thing.

People, here's the key, and this is what I liked about your essay. If you go back and you look at the original pagan Olympics, it tells you so much about their society. And if we look at that and what the elites are pushing us towards, we can see what they admire. And we can see that what they want to do is take us back to that kind of a situation where there's a few people running everything and the rest of us are poor and slaves and living in mud huts. That really is what they're doing and of course exercising that against a lot of the athletes in terms of removing their air conditioning removing meat for the most part having them sleeping on cardboard beds and all the rest of the stuff they want austerity they want slavery and that's the what what we're going to get with this kind of pagan society so i think it is very interesting to go back and look at what these people admire,

and what they worship, and the kind of society that they want to take us into. And I think that is all there to some degree in the Olympics. What do you think? It is. I think, you know, what we are seeing is the powers that should not be are putting on display what they want as a globalist religion. Now, bear in mind, Revelation 13 warns us of a one-world government with a one-world economic system and a one-world interfaith religion. And so, there you have it in Revelation 13, warning the beast is wanting to impose a one-world religion. And what's standing in the way? Well, those obnoxious individuals who say, my conscience has kept the word of God. Jesus is the way, the truth, and life. No one comes to the Father but

them. They don't want that. They hate Christianity because Christianity is true. And Christianity, of course, teaches that leaders should be servants. The very concept of civil servants. I mean, the very fact that Britain has a prime minister. A minister means a deacon, a servant. So the prime minister is the first servant. And you've got cabinet ministers who used to sign the letters, your humble servant. This comes from Jesus' teaching that the lords of the Gentiles, they lord it over them, and they call themselves benefactors. But it is not to be like that with you. The greatest amongst you must be like the least, and like the youngest, you should be the servant of all. And so Jesus taught servant leadership, and he modeled servant leadership.

I mean, the Lord got on his knees, took a towel, and cleaned the feet of his servants, his disciples. When people were walking with sandals through streets that were dusty and dirty and filthy and donkeys and horses walking around, and you can imagine it would have been a dirty job to clean people's feet when they came into the house. You'd normally leave your sandals at the door, but now you're sitting on couches for eating, so one person's head is close to that person's feet,

and they want to have clean feet, especially for the mealtime, the last supper. The Lord does the humblest task. And this is the leadership of a Christian. A Christian leader leads from the front. He leads by example, and he serves. And that is even a Christian concept that we don't have big chiefs, emperors who, you know, cast the instructions, unlike the Pope who expects people to kiss his toes and things like that.

No, Christian leadership is servant leadership where we care for the people. You do it as unto the least of these you've done unto me. No. Christian leadership is servant leadership where we care for the people. You do it as unto the least of these you've done unto me. And so why would Christianity not be respected? And why would people not be grateful to it? But no, at the Olympics, they're choosing every single Olympics to celebrate the pagan religions, which all abused women were involved in. Animal cruelty, human sacrifices, occultism, and paganism,

why would they want to replace Christianity with paganism? That's right. And, you know, who today wants to say, I think slavery is a good thing, I think abusive women is a good thing? Well, they might think it, but they're not going to easily say it. But they want to celebrate and lift up that which is pro-slavery and pro-debauchery and paganism and abusive women. And that shows you, as you said earlier, that's the hidden goal. They must like that. You wouldn't be lifting up and worshipping it if you don't think it's good. That's right.

And a model and what you want for the future. That's right. You are not going to spend, in some cases, 100 million pounds or 100 million euros on opening ceremonies if it wasn't presenting the message you want. I wouldn't spend a dime on a printing job or any project that didn't glorify Christ and present the solo scripture of Protestant beliefs that are at the heart of my faith. And I can bet that these pagans are not going to be putting a hundred million euros into something that they don't wholeheartedly agree with and just like i proofread every single line and letter over and over before i give the authorization for the printer to go ahead with the print job i want done there's no

way that these powers that be didn't approve everything of this olympic before somebody thought of this golden calf somebody thought of this pale rider somebody thought of a golden calf. Somebody thought of this pale rider. Somebody thought of a decapitated Mary Antoinette walking around with her head under her arm and things like this. Somebody thought of, let's put some trans woman in the place of Jesus, and let's put a bunch of freaks and LGBTQ bearded women and things like this with a child, mind you. I mean, what's a drag queen without a child in this last subject? That's right. And somebody thought of this, and everybody signed off on it. The president of France, the mayor of Paris, probably the whole city council, the whole IOC, they must have all approved this ahead of time.

It wouldn't have gone ahead without the approval all the way up to national and international so this what they're telling us is this is what we believe this is what we stand for this is what we want which includes nothing but contempt for christianity not even an acknowledgement of christianity as depicted in the notre dame and the notre dame cathedral i've been it's a magnificent cathedral stood for a thousand years and it's burned down. Interesting, while Notre Dame was burning, it was, while it was still burning, President Macron said, Arsenal has been ruled out. It's not Arsenal.

I was in a fire brigade. You cannot determine the cause of a fire before the fire's out. It takes a lot of forensics afterwards. And in the fire brigade, we were often being rushed to give a verdict. We would not give a verdict until we had examined the evidence. And yet the Paris Fire Department and Police Department were not allowed to investigate.

They were just told offhand, the prison said, we've ruled out arson. That was a year where there were 1,200 attacks on churches in France in one year, 1,200. And those churches desecrated, bombed, burned, damaged in different ways, all by Muslim jihadists. But Notre Dame, the most iconic picture of Paris, the greatest architectural masterpiece in France, that was definitely not arson, said the president. So they just could not afford to allow people to see this is the fruit of our multiculturalism, bringing people to hate Christianity and so on. And they had spades of arson attacks at you. And that just was not to them.

You can't even look there for arson. It's not arson. It ruled out. The firemen were still fighting the fire. The fires were still blazing. And PrismaCon really put it down. This is not arson. We've ruled that out.

And how could they rule that out? On a political basis, but not on a forensic basis? That's for sure. Well, and of course, the true arsonist was Macron himself. He wants to burn down the country and he knows he can do it with the migrants and the policies that they have. But it truly is amazing. And, you know, we've had, again, several people recently from Dawkins to Elon Musk talking about the fruit of Christianity, but of course they reject the root of Christianity. You can't have Christianity without Christ. You can't have Christianity without the Bible. They don't want any of that morality.

They don't want Christ at the center of this, and we can see if we look back where this is all taking us in the future if we go down that dark path it's great talking to you and very insightful i really enjoyed listening to you and let me give your website again and is it mission plural or mission singular frontline mission mission secrets frontline mission sa.org okay frontlineissionSA.org is where people can go to find your books that you have there, as well as to keep up with the busy life and ministry that you've got going there in South Africa. And it truly is amazing all the different places that you have gone, and hostile areas that you have gone in terms of Marxists as well as Muslims and the different areas, and amazing stories that you've got about how God has

taken his word in different places. And so I really do appreciate your faithfulness and fearlessness and putting that out there and taking it into these dark areas. We just have to make sure that we keep the lights on here at home as well, right? They're starting to go out. I'm getting deeply concerned for the West, and I think back to how General William Booth wrote the book In Darkest England back in the 1800s,

but I think that's more true now. So much in the West, the capitals of the West, France and Britain, are turning away from Christ and turning deliberately to paganism, atheism, Islam, anything but Christianity. And I'm deeply concerned for the United States, and your whole future's at stake, and I trust that people are praying for a biblical return. We need a back-to-the-Bible reformation. We need a heaven-sent, Holy Spirit-empowered revival.

That's right. And it's going to come from the bottom up. It's going to start with each and every one of us. And so that starts with us and our family, you know, and then moves up to the government. That truly is… There's no salvation in politics. That's right.

And anyone who's waiting for the government to save us is definitely deluded. We've got to start from the ground up. Street evangelism, personal prayer, family-by-family devotions, one individual at a time. We've got to win our countries back to Christ. Europe became Christian by the hard work of missionaries like Boniface and evangelists like George Whitfield and John Wesley. We've got to have these hardcore evangelists, the Dale Moody's, the Charles Spurgeon's.

We need dedicated servants of God, and we need the foot soldiers on the ground too, winning neighbors, friends, and family to Christ. We've got to work very vigorously because our whole civilization is in danger of falling to chaos and paganism. We don't want a dark age of paganism. We want to go further into the future in the light of Christ. And I think you've just seen in Paris some of the darkness, including a full-on blackout across the whole city of Paris the day after this mocking of Christ at the insane opening ceremonies. Yeah, yeah, that was interesting, wasn't it?

All blacked out. Insane. Absolutely. So, yeah, it's going to be done one by one. They want to destroy the family. Men need to take the leadership in this, but the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world, as they used to always say. That's why they don't want

families. They don't want motherhood. Motherhood is devalued like everything else. But that's the important thing. So we take it back from the bottom up. We take it back with our relationship with Christ, our family's relationship with Christ. Frontlinemissionsa.org. Thank you so much, Peter Hammond. Appreciate it.

Peter Hammond Thank you. And if I can say a last word here, and that is the best way for you to revolt against this revolting, disgusting, new world disorder is to be straight, get converted, love Christ, study your Bible, get married, have lots of children, homeschool them. I mean, this is the way that we will beat the New World Order. When we, you know, they want you to abandon Christ, we embrace Christ. They want you to keep quiet, we will preach the gospel. They don't want you to pray, we will pray. So the thing is, whatever the state and the globalist New World Order and Hollywood's telling you to do, do the opposite,

and that's a pretty good rule of thumb. That's the way to do it. Thank you so much, Peter. Appreciate it. Have a good day. Thank you, David. God bless. Thank you. god bless you © transcript Emily Beynon 🎵 🎵 ¶¶ ¶¶ AI parenting tips.

These are the, you know, this is the AI that's going to make decisions about whether or not you should be able to get a home loan or move into a rental place. All these types of things. And the question is about Google's AI telling parents, giving parents a tip on how to potty train their young children. Telling them that they need to smear poop on a balloon. I think smearing poop on a balloon is why you potty train them. How to teach wiping poo during potty training. The AI says, make it fun. You can try a balloon bathroom activity where you put a little poo on a balloon and then tape it to a chair. Have your child practice reaching around to wipe the balloon.

Well, this may be a excrement hits the fan scenario. That thing pops, right? The idea, and where did it get this idea? It looked at a video that's out there that is one of the high-ranking videos. And what the person was doing was they were showing shaving cream or they were showing peanut butter or something like that being put this on the balloon and teach your kid about wiping you know using this poo you know quote-unquote poo well ai didn't get the fact that that was not actually poo first of all secondly i don't know who came up with this kind of crazy idea

anyway i mean do you really need to you really need to model uh wiping uh by putting i don't think you're gonna need to do this travis i'm not giving you any parenting tips here but i except i would say this is absolutely not the way it's been taught uh for many many generations uh if you do this uh and it worked out for you, that's fine. Don't write me any letters. I don't want to know. Um, but they, they emphasize shaving cream or peanut butter, but uh, Google AI did not get that memo.

Uh, so when we asked Google point blank, whether it was a good idea to wipe poop on a balloon. It said yes. And then it broke down the balloon method in detail, telling us that we should use a little bit of poop. Start with a small amount of poop. Yeah. And then you can build up to big amounts of poop until it pops. And so, again, it came from its misunderstanding. But that's what we should have making decisions. And in Nevada, they've already California grabbing nuisance, uh, wants

to do it for a lot of different departments, but in Nevada, they've already started putting AI in charge of deciding whether or not somebody should be able to get unemployment benefits and paid Google. The same people are telling you to put poop on a balloon. They got these wonderful experts with their science, the science like PCR stuff and everything. And here's the problem. These kind of decisions, as they bring in artificial intelligence into government, into um you know rental property

ai is going to rapidly be seen as unchallengeable because hey it's an expert it's the computer it's science right it's all and and 50 years ago they were telling people don't trust this simply because you got a computer printout. Garbage in, garbage out. Just because somebody did a computer model or a program, that doesn't make it right. This does not have some special anointing from God because it's a computer printout. It was a human who put that in there. And humans are putting all

kinds of bias and and nonsense into the ai stuff as well but nevertheless uh that memo just like they like to use real poop on the balloon uh the fact that you don't give real credibility to these computer printouts that's somehow been lost on people that's harder to understand than the fact that the ai would think that it was real poop on the balloon people think that this is real truth because it came out of a computer Terima kasih telah menonton! Thank you. All right, welcome back. And joining us now is J. Warner Wallace. He's been a guest once before. We've talked about his background. he was a cold case detective this is somebody who goes back and investigates

murder cases things that don't have a statute of limitations murder cases where perhaps all the witnesses have died and he's just going back looking at the physical evidence of it he's now written a book called the truth and true crime and I love the tagline here. When investigating death teaches us about the meaning of life. It looks like a fantastic book, and so I wanted to get him on to talk about that one as well. Thank you for joining us, sir. Well, thanks for having me. I really appreciate it. This is my favorite book I've written so far, so I'm glad to talk about it. Oh, it looks like a great angle and and you know and something that is uh you know really affects all of us and everybody loves uh the the crime aspect and the things that you glean from it too is are really interesting i think yeah i think there's actually some hidden like i was not a christian through all my career but through you know the first eight years or so

i was not a believer until i was 35 i i became a believer by by examining the Gospels kind of from a forensic perspective. How do we know, or why would we trust if we tested these people as eyewitnesses? Why would we even think, number one, that they are written by eyewitnesses, or even anybody who had access to eyewitnesses? And if you did believe that, how would you test them to see if they could pass the test? Now, once I was in, I started to look at human behavior a little bit differently. If you work murderers, you are seeing people at their rawest point, the point at which all of the bars are off. Sadly, when you get to the point where you're willing to do

something crazy like this, it's probably because you've been pushed to a certain limit and your true nature is now going to be revealed. And it really, I think, exposes all of our true nature. So I wanted to write a book that just talked about like, what are these attributes, the 15 attributes of human flourishing that I discovered in 15 separate crime stories? And then talk about, you know, is that something number one? Yeah, secular people, they do studies on this, and they confirm that these are 15 things that if you simply embrace these 15 principles, you will have a better life. But it turns out these are 15 ancient descriptions of human nature from Scripture that people, for the most part, think they're discovering them in the last three decades, when in fact, these have been on the pages of the New Testament for 2,000 years. And so, I really wanted to do a book where I kind of demonstrated that. That's amazing. Yeah. And why did you do a forensic investigation of Christianity in the

first place? Well, I was 35, so I was probably about 1995 or 6, right in that range. It took me about 18 months, I would say, to complete that stuff that I was so skeptical. I'm not raised around Christians or anybody really who believed in God in a way they could articulate. So, I didn't have like a leg up, like somebody who could say, hey, look at this or look at that. I had to come at it raw. And so, I bought my first Bible. I was 35 and it took me a while to kind of go through the Gospels. And I was just tearing them apart from just word usage you know all the attributes i wrote about this in a book called cold case

christianity and that book just kind of covers that journey uh but that's something that it'll get you to the point where you might believe it's true look i think that that as a boomer as somebody who's older i have a high value for whether something is true or not. And there are people in my generation would probably agree, but I don't know that that's the case for young people, Gen Z and millennials. I think they're not as concerned about whether something's true because they've co-opted that word. That word doesn't mean it's true anymore. It means it's true for me. That's right. It's true based on my lived experience, or it's true based on how I have applied it to my life. It doesn't mean it's true for them now when i use the word true i'm using it in a more objective

way but it's true for all of us whether we like it or not i think that this generation i'm talking to now is more concerned about whether or not it's good because they believe they've been sold by the culture that christianity is the source behind every evil intent, misogyny, racism, homophobia, whatever it may be. It's really, they are going to attribute to it, to this traditional Western culture worldview that we hold as Christians. So, so I wanted to show that, yeah, but if you didn't believe in Christianity, you're probably already employing its teaching if you're flourishing.

And the more you detach from its teaching, the more you're going to struggle. So I just, look, this is what we're seeing in culture. And so I wrote a book this time, which really looks at all of the data. So most of my books, I spend a lot of time researching. And although this book has about 50 pages in the printed edition of footnotes, there are 200 pages in the PDF file we provide online. Why? Because I want you to see that if I'm making this claim, it's supported by the data, but it turns out that that data simply supports what was claimed in Scripture 2,000 years ago. So, it's eye-opening for me to realize that our human, it makes sense though, think about it. If we are designed by a creator God who knows something about us and we are in his image,

then it turns out that that book we have called Scripture, called the Bible, ought to describe us the way we really are. And if it does describe us the way we really are, you could consider that. I was listening to a pundit who usually talks about politics recently who's Jewish. And when asked, when he defends why he's Jewish, he says, well, because it turns out that these principles work. I thought, oh, that's interesting. And he sees that as an evidence that the worldview is true. Okay. And by the way, that may or may not be an evidence that the worldview is true okay and by the way that may or may not be an evidence that your worldview is true but it strikes me that if your worldview is true

it ought to describe you the way you really are and so in that sense it could provide you with some insight into your human nature and how you could flourish yeah it would be necessary not necessarily sufficient but it would be necessary for that to be true. Yeah, that's right. Exactly right. Yeah, what's the most surprising thing that you found out about human nature in investigating this? Well, so every chapter is a crime story, right? So in one of these stories, I talk about celebrity and how sometimes when you are a local, especially in the gang cultures, if you're somebody who's known locally, you kind of become like a celebrity in your own neighborhood, or at least in your own clique or your own gang. And I've got one of these stories here to show how detrimental our pursuit of celebrity is.

And the reason why I wrote that chapter is because I don't think it's just, it's not just a few of us who are seeking celebrity anymore. I mean, there are no gatekeepers. You know this, even think about it. We are able not to develop our own personal platforms without a gatekeeper at NBC, ABC, or CBS. They used to be, or Salem, whatever the radio station was, they used to be the gatekeepers that kept people from becoming a celebrity. Those are gone. So now all of us, if we can develop a following, we can make it from zero to a million listeners without any support. And that's where I

think we have to be careful. It turns out that one of the most powerful attributes that we could adopt as humans that would change your life. As a matter of fact, if you simply embraced this virtue, you will have increased flourishing in every single metric that we use to actually measure human flourishing, longevity, mental health, physical health, the deepness of your relationships, that improvement will improve your marriage. They'll make you a better employer, a better employee. You'll learn at a higher level. You'll get better grades. You'll make more money. I mean, every way that we measure flourishing improves if you simply adopt this one thing. And it's really the opposite of celebrity.

It is the attribute we know as humility. Now, they've been studying this for about three decades and looking at all kinds of studies that are out there that talks about how humble people succeed at levels that are far higher than the rest of us and why that might be true. Okay, fine. But it turns out that humility is one of those things that I think if I asked people, hey, what do you think the one attribute you could adopt that would help you in every aspect of your life at a higher level than anything else? I don't think many people would come up with humility. Yeah. But it turns out. Yeah, it is actually the thing we need to embrace.

Now, what's interesting about that, think about every worldview that's out there. None of them leverage humility like the Christian worldview. What I mean is, if your theistic worldview, your spiritual worldview, encourages you to do these certain things to reach the highest level that your spiritual worldview offers. In other words, if it is about earning something, it's a transaction between you and God, a transaction between you and the universe. There's no way to avoid pride in that kind of a system, because at some point you're going to look across the room and say, I'm doing better than that did. We measure based on our achievements, right?

And I have a friend who's now no longer with us named Mike Adams. Mike and I would travel and do a lot of events together. And he used to always tease, I'll write this book, how to become humble in 10 easy steps and how I made it in eight. You know, it's like this, there's no way that you can pursue humility without at some point doing just the opposite and becoming prideful. So, it turns out that humility is something you, it's an assessment. Spurgeon calls it the proper assessment of who we are before a holy God. Now, Christianity leverages this because it's the one worldview that says, no, it's not a transaction. There's nothing you can do to earn this. As a matter of fact, if whatever the highest thing you think you hope to achieve in your worldview is, we're going to give it to you.

It's a free gift over here. Why? So that Paul says no one can boast. It's an antidote to pride and celebrity. It's an antidote to look what I did. It's look what's been done for me. This view requires us to begin in humility because the people say, okay, there's this God and it's not me.

Well, that's a very humble position. I'm not the God of my own. I'm not the center of my own decision-making universe. Well, this begins and ends and our Savior says, have this add pulses, have the attitude that Jesus had, who, although he existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God,

a thing to be grasped, but instead emptied himself, taking the form of a bondservant, taking the form of God did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but instead emptied himself, taking the form of a bondservant. Taking the form, in other words, it's all humility start to finish. And as difficult as that is for us to achieve, if we don't recognize its power in our lives, we'll never even try to submit. We'll never even begin to let go of the things that possess us. So, I just want to spend one chapter in these 15 chapters talking about the role that celebrity plays. And by the way, almost every crime you're going to commit is driven by these three, it's a different chapter, but these three prideful motives. It's the pursuit of money, the pursuit of sex, or the pursuit of power.

Now that pursuit of power, that's a huge category of misbehavior. And that's where celebrity fits. All of us, look, you and I both, would we like more people to listen to what we're saying? Of course we would. So, although we might protect ourselves from the pursuit of money and the pursuit of sex, knowing that that can derail us, we don't usually protect ourselves from the pursuit of celebrity. In fact, what we typically do is want to increase that area of our life so we can argue, oh, because I want to reach more people with this divine message. Really? So, we will increase the celebrity. Now, here's the danger in it. And this is a

different chapter, but there's a danger in this. I have never known anyone of those three motives for misbehavior. And there are only three. There's not a fourth motive. There isn't. And you can discover this secularly working as a homicide detective, or you can discover this on the pages of scripture because John writes about it in one of his letters. But the point is, there's only three motives out there for stupid. And if you don't protect yourself from those three motives for stupid, you will eventually do one of them. Now, the point is, there's only three motives out there for stupid. And if you

don't protect yourself from those three motives for stupid, you will eventually do one of them. Now, here's what I've noticed. If you begin to scratch one of those itches, you will eventually scratch the other two. Because the other two become available to you on the basis of what you've achieved in the third. So, you see this in even Christian leaders, right? Where they fall for someone. Why? Well, here's why, in my opinion. Because as a congregation or as your deacon board or your elder board, they're trying to protect their pastors from the sex and money. But everyone wants their pastor to be known more so they can build a bigger church.

And when you increase your celebrity, you only open the door to the other two. So this is why I've struggled with this, even in writing this book. Because as I'm writing this book, if I'm going to heed my own advice, I have to do less of this. Because it turns out all of this, talking about a book you've written, is about you trying to amplify your platform, amplify your influence and culture. And that's, I think there's a good, by the way, all three of these things have been designed by God for his glory and for our good. We just happen to distort them. So, sex, money, and power is something that God is giving us in a positive way. This is another chapter in the book. It's a chapter about a guy who was basically homeless and was killed. And I'm thinking, what are these three motives? What did this killer have to gain from this homeless guy who was so sweet? They called him Santa Claus because he

looked like Santa Claus. And he was as sweet as Santa Claus. And what does he offer in terms of sex, money, or power that would be worthy of killing him. Well, here's what happens is that when we focus on those things that are given to us by God instead of on the God who gave them to us, we're stopping one level short of our worship. And we all worship. Everyone worships whether you're a believer or not. There's something that you think is of utmost importance that you dare not take that from me because that's the thing that I covet. And this idolatry is what causes us so in this particular case um this poor guy had had slipped over they

were he was recycling stuff every day he would go out spend the first half of his day picking up trash cans he's picking going through trash cans picking up recyclables then he would take him to the recycling center and get just enough money to go. And he would buy alcohol and food in the afternoon. And that was his day every day. Very, very workmanlike. And he had slipped into an area of our city that another guy who was doing the same thing felt was his alley. Don't be picking trash out of those two cans. And although the amount of money that Santa Claus probably got from that was what pennies dollars maybe it was enough so he confronted this guy he confronted santa claus and said don't be don't be doing that anymore at a recycling center and santa claus kind of just blew him off

well it turned out in that one moment he had triggered the two of the three things number one he had disrespected him so the idea idea of power, authority, respect, that's in the third category. Now I'm upset because you disrespected me in front of my peers. Two, you're taking pennies or dollars, but because I've turned both of these things, I covet them at a high level. I've now turned them into idols. You dare not try to destroy my idols. And that night he stabbed him to death over virtually nothing. This is the power of idolatry. And by the way, it's not just people you work and work in homicides. It's all of us.

And so on that chapter, what I try to do in every chapter is show you, Hey, if you're, if this is your struggle, whatever these things are, here's a way for you to address it. And in this chapter,

I just ask 15 questions like what you want to know what your idols are because we all have them uh well ask these 15 questions and you'll probably identify them and then once you've identified them you can start to actually think okay look it's something that god has created rather than the god who created it we simply have to transfer our worship up one level just from the level where we're stopped in god's creation and back to the creator and so it's something that if you do it you will flourish you will you will not number one you'll protect yourself from stupid and number two you'll actually start to pursue the things that contribute to a meaningful life and when you do that you do that

with uh thankfulness because when you say when, thank God for what that is, and sincerely think about what it is that God has given you, you look at it as not something that you've achieved, then that does move it to the higher level. Yeah, there's enough help with that, right? Now, again, I'm skipping across a number of different chapters here, but yeah, I think you're right. I think that part of it is, is that what I've discovered, and it's true of all of us, is the least thankful people are the people who think they have nothing to be thankful for. Or the least forgiving people are the people who think they have nothing to be forgiven for. So it does turn out that a proper assessment of who you are, because it's really easy for me to think, well, everything I've got in my life, I achieved that. I am the reason for all my success, the reason for everything I've got in my life i achieved that yes i am the reason for all my success the reason for everything i've ever possessed okay if that's your view well that kind of pride is it doesn't lead any more positive that's right because anytime anyone challenges that that might

not be the case you're now offended and and so it turns out that that that whatever it is we've we've worshipped that becomes the master the master that you dare not question the master that i'm now willing to give up tons of time for resources for um i can say that you know i i had that early on when i was young i i had a lot of success a lot of stuff very easily and i did think it was what i had done and and i got to say it was such an amazing blessing for god to take that away from me and humble me you know and that's exactly what it was and i thank god for that uh taking that away from me one of the biggest blessings of my life and you're absolutely i think you and i as guys we are even more prone to this because and this is a different this is chapter two of the book. It's an identity issue for us. I mean, a lot of it is, is that I don't have my, as a Christian,

I ought to have my identity in Christ, but, but the way we form identity, and I covered this in the book, we don't typically form it that way. What we typically do instead is we form it as men in our achievements, in what it is we've achieved. So if I asked, you know, who are you, David? Well, you're going to say, I'm the host of the show. If you said, who are you, Jim? Well, I'm a cold case detective. Okay, is that who I am? Look, I haven't been in a Dateline episode in three years. Okay, at some point, you need to say, okay, who are you really, Jim? And this struggle of identity is so key to how we function in the world, because identity really exposes our forms of worship. Because I guarantee you, as men,

we typically form our worship based on what we do. You know, identity, when you study it in the surveys and in the research on this, it's inseparable from value and purpose. And unfortunately, a lot of us form our identity based in reverse. In other words, we ask the question, where am I valuable? What am I good at? What do I have purpose in? That's who I am. Rather than say, well, no, who am I? I want to form my value and purpose based on my identity first, not my identity based on my value and purpose. Because that's the problem. Because there's nothing but pride that comes out of forming your identity

based on what you're good at. Because it's about what you're good at. Yes. So this is, and it's the biggest one single move that leads to contentment is to reform your identity, not based on what you can achieve, but based on what you receive from a holy god that is amazing when you're talking about that you say you know how do you define yourself you know is it the show that you have is it the book that you've written or is it the career that you have it makes me think back to the austrian empire when they

would have their emperors die they had these big elaborate funerals and they would take them to this amazing crypt uh actually i've been been there with my family to see this thing and it truly is amazing. And they would have, as they bring the body into the crypt, they would knock and the person inside would say, who goes there? And they would give all of the big political titles. You know, he's an emperor of this and the king of that

and all the rest of this stuff. I don't know him. And then they would knock again and they'd say, who is it? And he would give family relationships, right, that he has. I don't know him. And then he'd knock a third time and it would say, and he'd say, a humble sinner, Franz Josef. I know him. Enter.

You know, that's kind of an interesting thing. Awesome. Yeah. That's an awesome, just a word picture of what we're talking about here. No, this is something that is, and I don't know how much time we have on this, but let me just say, I've got a friend named Joe Martin, who's a doctor,

who is a philosopher and a theologian. We got plenty of time, by the way. Okay, good. So he says that men are all about the Asians. When we have conversations, it's all about the Asians. And I think it does expose how we form identities. So for example,

he would say when we meet another guy, we shake hands and we say, what do you do? The first Asian is occupation. Okay. That's the first Asian. And we're not really asking, what do you do? We are because of how we form identity as men. We're asking, who are you? Now, as we ask that, all identity, remember, is comparative. It's not about, well, how wealthy are you now as we ask that all identity remember is comparative it's not about well how uh wealthy

are you it's how wealthy are you compared to this guy or everybody else that's how you know if you're wealthy how smart are you compared to others sadly um identity is formed by comparing and that's why it's so prideful right because we have a have a tendency to say, well, I'm better over here. I'm better over there. So occupation's the first Asian. And then when we're measuring, we're saying, okay, well, I know what that job requires in terms of education, second Asian.

Now we're saying, well, he's better educated, or I'm better educated. We're measuring. Here we are in that first conversation with another guy. And by asking, what is your occupation? We're starting to measure the other Asians. Second one is education.

Third, we're asking, well, I know what that makes. If you're a surgeon, I know you're making some, or if you're an accountant, whatever it is, you're measuring compensation. That's the next station. So at some point, then you're asking too how good are you at this you could be a doctor but just be a terrible doctor reputation is the next asian what are we doing here well we're measuring based on and we're assigning value based on the answers here and if you're a guy if you're a cop especially you could be somebody who's that's got nothing more than a high school education and you're working as a parole officer and you're not even making

that much money you've never you know tried to do anything other but if you're six foot eight and cut like a greek god you're still the biggest dog in the room because now it's about intimidation the last station so so i think he's got a point it's very unlike now i'm sure that for all of us if you're not a guy you're a woman and you're listening to this then there's probably some other level of but but be honest we do this all the time and because identity is comparative it really takes it rears its head most notably in group gatherings where you're introducing yourself because now you're you're getting the opportunity to compare well there's the danger in it and and and identity becomes the thing that sadly is behind so much of of our trauma and struggle this is a separate chapter of this book

i'll give you an example of this we would do do a lot of work now with officers through Billy Graham Association in the summer. So we're getting ready to leave in two weeks here to do the first of six weeks of counseling for marriage resiliency for officers who have been involved in critical incidents. And now they're struggling in their marriage. And sometimes they only get there before they get a divorce. They get a divorce. They say, we're not coming. I always say, just hold on. Just try to get through this trip first before you make a decision that big. But this is the dire straits they're in. Okay. I discovered probably three or four years

ago that the thing that is the biggest struggle for officers is, especially if you're injured, is identity. It turns out that if you were to look at all of the trauma in your life, whatever it was, if it was an injury you suffered a divorce a loss of a job a child being lost whatever you lost whatever it was you suffered in a trauma you'll see that at that same point you were suffering the trauma you had a relatively dramatic shift in your identity you thought of yourself as married now you're divorced you you see yourself differently identity is simply how you continuously see yourself. The self is at the issue.

And every time you suffer a trauma, you suffer an identity shift. So it's interesting that trauma typically causes an identity shift. But the opposite is also true. An identity shift often causes trauma. So if you wanted to protect yourself from trauma or minimize the kind of trauma you'll experience, you need to put your identity in something that can't be shifted, stolen from you, taken from you, bruised in some way, damaged in some way. And of the three ways that we form identity, inside out, outside in, or topside down, only one of these three ways is stable enough to protect you from shifting. If you're forming your identity outside in, where you say, like, this is how the ancients did it, you know, this thing outside of me existed before I was ever born, and I'm just going to reach out

and grab that and form my identity. So, it's a tribe. It's the tribe I was raised in. It's the name of my family name. It's the profession of my family. We're all cops. So that's like who I am. Okay, that's outside in identity. And all of us do some of that inside out based on my desires, my preferences, even my sexual preferences. I'm going to ask you outside of me to identify me based on my innate heart's desires. Okay, that's inside out identity

both of those are unstable because at some point your job ends you're going to retire then who are you then uh or you're going to get injured and and or your desires are going to change because your heart is fickle it's just the nature of it well then get ready to suffer some trauma in the course you're now if you formed your identity topside down, where you put it in something that's transcendent and unchanging, then you're going to have lows in your life, of course, but they're going to be not quite as deep. Because the day before you suffered the injury, you were a child of, you were in Christ that day.

The day after you suffer the injury, you're still in Christ. You're still the same. God sees you the same way. Now, are you going to injury, you're still in Christ. You're still the same. God sees you the same way. Now, are you going to struggle because you're injured? Of course. But who you are hasn't changed. And it turns out that's the thing that we struggle with the most, even in an injury. It's not so much just the pain of the injury. It's who am I now? And that's why we have to kind of really be serious about our identity formation or we're going to find ourselves. It's about human flourishing.

It really is. Yeah. And, of course, you know, it's about integrity. And we often think about integrity as how other people perceive us or something. But it really is how you perceive yourself. Do you have that integrity? And you have that integrity if you're thinking about that from top down. This is so wise.

I'm really enjoying listening to you talk about this. And I think about how unique things are right now. As you began talking about that, you said, you know, this lure of being famous or a lot of people following you, that all comes with the social media stuff. It truly is amazing to me to see that and how that has transformed younger people and it is such a transformational thing to think that there is some value in having a bunch of people that you don't know you know following you and everything i'm going to tell you focusing on that it's amazing yeah that that is something that we take for granted david we take it for granted because yes we are now in an age the information age has become the identity age why because um so how do we start if you go on our social media platforms what's the

very first thing we have a moniker like what is the public name i'm going to adopt that i want you to see me as yes second we're going to put a bio now we're going to list a series of priorities identity priorities in the bio so all of this then we're going to spend the next, how many years on social media posting only in a way that amplifies the way I already want you to see me. That's right. So I'm not going to reveal something of myself that, that violates the identity I've already established. And even if I'm not even thinking about it, My posts always expose who I am. And there were times in generations prior where you didn't know who people were in the way you know who they are now. Having access to everything we think gives people complete access to who we really are.

And I think we know that if we're a public figure. And so we're careful. You know, I never post anything about my family on social media. I stay pretty focused in that area of what it is I'm trying to communicate related to the gospel. And I just stay focused on that. Now, that gives people a view of me that's not actually true. It's the view that I'm crafting for them. And we have to be aware of that. But everyone

does that. I mean, I see people I follow who you think all they do is eat. But it's really, there's not just that we are in some way forming and sharing our identity. It's that we are also revealing our idols. We're revealing our priorities we're revealing this stuff that we think is so consequential so important that we are willing to um to proclaim it that's one of the ways you can you can see what your idols are ask yourself like look at your social media streams i want to know what your idols are i can kind of figure it out if you've got a social media platform yeah right that's right yeah we got a full life log that is up there and you know it's such a shallow things we're talking about with social media it's there so that you know you can glorify

yourself isn't it interesting that in the last days people become such lovers of self that to the extent that we've never had those tools to it was always there but we've never had the tools to magnify exactly level yeah and i think at some point we are going to have we're going to see that this is not beneficial to our well-being and we're going to voluntarily uh pull back a little bit or we're going to reach a point in our lives where we're going to burn out on it and we're going to so you might be more active on social media at some point in your life than you are later but i i'm also trying to be very careful not to be the old guy who's just shaking his fist at the moon, right? Because I use social media as much as anybody else.

But I do want us to be very practical about it. Like, look, if we're trying to protect ourselves from what causes us to do bad things, we have to have a very honest assessment of who we are. Are we, and this is a different chapter in the book but are we by nature innocent born innocent born virtuous and we are corrupted by our families by our environments by the systems that are in place even from government systems is that who we are or is the flip true that we are by nature fallen and depraved enough that no matter what system you put us in, we'll find a way to corrupt it, even religious systems. Which of those two things is

true? We need to figure that out because if the second is true, which has always been the claim of the Christian worldview, that we are by nature fallen, well, now we can explain certain aspects of what happens in culture and we can put our resources in the right direction. Look, Luther put it this way. We are so inwardly focused that we can take even things that are good and corrupt them and do them for selfish. You can even behave uber morally, but you're doing it for selfish reasons. Yeah. Even our efforts to do something godly are entirely depraved and selfish is what his claim is.

This is what you find also in the modern studies about altruism. Like people are trying to figure out like, well, how could it be that someone who's could be a Pulitzer Prize winner can also kill his spouse or her spouse? How could that be? How could it be that there's somebody who for the last 30 years has been an exemplar in our community? The deacon at the church, the doctor who delivered my babies, yet 30 years ago, he killed his wife. How could that be? There's no way he could be that duplicit, is there? This enigma of man has to be sorted out. Now, what I see in the studies is that, yes, we do have good examples of the altruism of humans humans are capable of great altruism they are until it doesn't serve them personally

so in other words i i'm usually the studies show that humans are usually pretty generous until resources get tight then we start hoarding toilet paper well why are we doing that because we are at our base nature self-serving and even when we are doing good for others it serves us in some way that's why we're doing it we want to be seen a certain way very seldom do you see people who you know do good things who aren't proclaiming to you that they do good things that's how you know they're doing good things. Well, that's because that's that proclamation is what they're really after. Yeah. OK, that's the truth.

If that's the case, then now we can make a proper assessment of our own condition. Number one, it causes me to know that I am not trustworthy, that I am no different number one, it's leveled the field for me. So I never went into an interview once I had this realization. I never went into an interview and thought I was somehow better than the guy I was interviewing. No, I knew that we're all the same person. But for the grace of God, my buttons haven't been pushed the way that this poor guy's buttons have been pushed. Now, look, this is not to try to elevate people

who do bad behavior. I'm a justice guy. So we're going to take care of this. But I recognize that I am just like him. We are all just like him. When you watch an episode of Dateline, I'm hoping you're not sitting there and going, yeah, what an idiot. I hope you watch it with a certain amount of introspection and you're thinking, oh, that could easily have been me. Yeah. Because that is where humility begins. It begins when you realize the proper role. By the way, if you know the fallen nature of humans, if you know that's really true,

well, that also changes the way you establish systems. This is why our country was built in a way that had the kinds of checks and balances between the three arms of the federal government. Why is that there? Because the people who formed it knew you can't trust people. You can't trust humans. We are by nature fallen.

If we don't have a way to check and balance each other, if we don't have a community, basically, this is why the Christian worldview has not lived in isolation. Because this is why marriage is so, this is another chapter of the book, why marriage is so important. Because I have, I'm close enough to another human that i have given her permission to tell me where i'm wrong i've given her permission to help shape me toward what it is god wants for me and if and if you're not in a relationship with somebody who you know well enough to have given them permission to tell you what an idiot you are right now and you don't have

true friends yeah and you don't have the kind of relationship that'll that'll urge you towards something better so it turns out that those are other things that sociologists have discovered it was a chapter in here about true friendship well why because i've worked so many cases where people were killed by somebody they thought was their true friend. Well, so what is the nature of quality relationships? What do we, what, what we need to kind of dig into that, because it turns out that there are some relationships that if you're listening, that you're holding right, the first thing I'm going to do if I'm working your homicide is I'm going to look back at all your relationships because the chances are that it's somebody you knew really well who killed you. And in the end, we have to ask the question, what am I doing wrong that I'm hanging out with somebody who I have not in some way vetted better? i think that a lot of this is important for us as christians to say oh yeah by the way the scripture has an antidote for that the christians got great

guidance for that we just haven't been paying attention in this generation it seems yeah you you have a statement many crime stories are centered around poor relationships you know not having a relationship or having a relationship that's going to i guess goad you into that right some way yeah i mean this is why so if you're looking at what causes, and we've got enough time, I think, here to cover this, that if you look at what is causing, what really describes relationships that will cause you to flourish, it turns out that studies show this. One of the longest studies ever done on human happiness, looked like a 60-year

study that was done and and and really revealed that is your relationships they're at the key the core of what causes you to feel content to be happy to have satisfied life satisfying life but it's not just any kind of relationship it turns out it's the kind of deep relationships that you cannot have with hundreds of people on social media so it's there's three things, three things that lead to the flourishing in your relationships. Here they are. First, you need deep, committed relationships with people you've given permission to be like a brother, to say, hey, you know what, dude, you're off the rails here. And that has to be with a small

number of people. You can't have those kinds of deep committed relationships because they require a certain amount of vulnerability and a certain amount of time. So if you're somebody who says, I know lots of people, I got lots of friends. Well, they're probably not then these kinds of friends. You need to have a small number of deeply committed relationships with third base virtuous people. Now, here's the reason why. I've met lots of folks who are deeply connected to others who are not virtuous, and they're basically a part of their crime family.

And so you can have deep connected relationships that lead you astray because there's no virtue. Now, here's the tricky question, is what do we call virtuous? Who gets to decide? So there's a code of ethics amongst gangsters is that what is virtuous what they say is because they would say hey if you offend us we're going to come over there and kill you that's just the code you knew better before you did that

you should have known that was coming yeah because we you know that's what you're going to get and so who just gets to decide what is righteous right or wrong virtuous who gets to decide that is it a group of people or is it a single individual or is there something that transcends all of us that it overarches all communities so it turns out that virtue is something that does require a transcendent unchanging overarching virtue giver the authority that we would actually say virtue is grounded in. Because if we say it's grounded in groups, then get ready for all kinds of stupid. And we're already seeing this because what's virtuous to even politically, what's virtuous to one side or the other is very different. Then we're arguing as if there's no transcendent overarching virtue. So, this is one of those areas, your relationships, that does benefit

from a worldview in which you can ground virtue objectively. There's a couple of places where that happens in this book, but this is one that's very important. Because we can say, you tell your kids all the time, but don't be handling those bad people. Who gets to decide they're bad? This is now suddenly caught, is going to have to cause us to think about how do we ground good and bad? How do we ground righteousness? And if you're going to ground it in just the opinion of people, well, that's every case I work. At some point, we have to be wiser than that. And that's why I think it's important for us to adopt the one worldview grounded in humility that provides you with an objective transcendent source for virtue.

That is such great wisdom. I'm really looking forward to reading this book. And, of course, it's just come out. But it is available now, right? Yes, it's available now. And I appreciate it. You can learn more at the truthintruecrime.com, the truthintruecrime.com. And because I'm so sensitive to the idea that this should not be about us just building a platform and trying to sell something, what we do with that website, you'll see there's a ton of free stuff that comes with a purchase.

We simply wanted to try to level that a little bit, right, so that you don't feel like this is about spending money on a book. I really want to advance the causes that are in the book, and that's the challenge, of course. Excellent. Excellent book. Again, it is The Truth in True Crime. That's I-N, not and. TheTruthInTrueCrime.com. And just before you go, I know you've got to go.

This message is from Gard Goldsmith on Rockfin. He says, thank you both. Cold case Christianity is excellent. And in the conversation today, I'm reminded that the trap that even catches people who try to spread freedom messages or biblical messages, it seems that one must beware of commoditizing oneself. Difficult to promote one's work, even freedom or biblical work, without that promotion becoming self-promoting rather than praising God. That's absolutely right.

So good. So good. Yeah, that's a great observation. He's written me before. He loved Cold Case Christianity, which he got the first time I interviewed you. But I'm really looking forward to The Truth in True Crime. And again, there's a website, thetruthintruecrime.com. Thank you so much for joining us, sir.

Excellent stuff and such wisdom. It truly is amazing. Looking forward to reading it myself. Thank you. Well, I'm indebted to you. Thanks so much for having me on. Well, Thank you. Well, I'm indebted to you. Thanks so much for having me on. Well, thank you. © transcript Emily Beynon Thank you. The Hillary Clinton. the hillary clinton yeah she is funding these lunatic criminals just stop oil their most recent caper if you recall uh what was it the summer solstice or something like that or equinox

whatever it was um and they run out with fire extinguishers that they put some colored paint in and they wanted to spray stonehenge except that they're running when they started spraying it they were headed into the wind and all this stuff blew back on them when you talk about blowback from a protest that was quite literally it uh hillary clinton funds these lunatic idiot criminals some of which have just gotten several year prison sentences and well deserved they blocked traffic on the m25 motorway back in november 2022 a reckless act frankly you know you have people who may have an emergency they need to be able to get to the hospital or something like that. Not to mention how many people had their time wasted by these lunatic idiots.

We're just going around destroying things, you know, spraying paintings and all the rest of this stuff. You know, climbing bridges and putting stuff up but they also threw soup over vincent van gogh's sunflowers in a museum caused damage exceeding 5 000 pounds they face a jail sentence for that but five of the activists who blocked the m25 motorway got jail sentences one of them sentenced to five years the other is getting four years each some uk members of parliament have called for the group to be designated as a terrorist organization but um hillary clinton doesn't think they're deplorable she loves them she gives them money gives them money through an organization that goes into another organization that's the way they always

do this stuff that's what soros does you. He puts money into the Tides organization. And then there's all these other things. What they do is they have all these different layers. It makes it harder for people to find out where the money is coming from. Gives them plausible deniability. And we've seen a lot of that in the recent elections here at the state level in Tennessee. A lot of outside money being filtered through a lot of different organizations for both Republican and Democrat candidates at the state level.

You know, it's Frank Nicely who just lost because of that. He tried to stop that out of state funding. It failed. Both Republicans and Democrats, majority Republicans wanted that out-of-state funding and so the result is that you know if you oppose the banks you oppose the out-of-state funding the out-of-state funding comes for you with a big campaign of posters and ridiculously absurd lies as absurd as this just stop oil stuff on thursday the telegraph revealed the involvement of hillary clinton and funding criminal activities in the uk just stop oil's largest financial backer

is a california non-profit the climate emergency fund one of the climate emergency funds major supporters is onward together a campaign organization that was founded by Hillary Clinton. So they only went two levels in direct, right? So it's even closer than Kevin Bacon. The report notes the donations of the largest contributions by Mrs. Clinton's organization to a nonprofit in the last three years and are funded by public contributions and the sale of merchandise from her online shop she's got an online shop i'm with her uh onward together donated three hundred thousand dollars to the climate emergency

fund in 2021 and a further two hundred thousand in 2022 Isn't it nice to have that kind of money when all you've ever done in your life is work in politics? Never had a career doing anything. Just like Obama, the Clintons got so rich. The money was then put into a fund and eventually used to pay for Just Stop Oil's protests in the UK. Just Stop Oil recently vandalized Stonehenge, as I said before, and then after that, they caused disruption at London's Heathrow Airport.

As we've previously stated, Just Stop Oil is an offshoot of Extinction Rebellion, which is also funded by billionaires. Shock troops for globalist technocrats are pushing for the same net zero agenda. And they're the ultimate creatures of the establishment. Oh, that is absolutely true. Here's the key about Paris. Here's what's interesting about Paris. Paris is a preview of what the Paris Accords want life to be like.

We're talking about the miserable sleeping accommodations and everything else and no air conditioning in the Olympic Village, and no meat. And, of course, a filthy, filthy river that the mayor of Paris cannot be bothered to clean up. All of this is a preview of what these people want for us, the utter contempt that they have. And then, of course, the social and religious agenda that is a key part of it as well paris olympics lacks meat-based protein so the athletes are complaining about this and some of them are as they shipped in air conditioning they're shipping in food now to feed their people because the parisians won't do it and of course, Paris is governed by a Marxist mayor. The same Marxist mayor who put on a wetsuit and waded in the water

and said, see, it's fine, gets out. Now these people are getting really sick who are having to participate in events there. British athletes flew an additional chef out to Paris to bridge a shortfall of supplies. Their own chef, their own supplies. The CEO of the UK Olympic Association lamented the lack of protein, especially chicken and eggs.

Must add bird flu or something. Nothing on the menu. The Paris 2024 document called Food Vision. Food Vision. Isn't that interesting? These people always talk about vision you know we have the vision zero it's part of the net zero stuff ban all the cars vision zero well food vision is the same thing let's ban all the real food when they talk about vision

it really is the blind leading the blind isn't it reduced animal protein to lower the game's carbon footprint athletes requiring high animal protein diets is a myth says the european policy manager it is a myth that has been busted a long time ago those perpetuating it in these games aren't basing their arguments on science. Well, there you go. See, he has a science and he isn't going to debate you. If you disagree with him, you're not science. In Brussels, the food issues at the Olympics sparked reactions as the EU also aims to promote plant-based diets in a similar fashion under its farm-to-fork strategy,

which is the EU's flagship food policy. You see, the insanity that you're seeing there at the Paris Games is all just to put this out there. They want to have the athletes not eat meat, so they can say, you don't need to eat meat. Look, we've got Olympic athletes out here competing, and they're not feeding them any meat. And the next thing you know, they're going to have some of these people who won medals and they're going to put them on a box of insect cereal, just like Bruce Jinder, to

sell you the insect cereal. Prescribers of these diets have underestimated the need and the desire for high protein foods offered by animal proteins in order to repair muscles and to recover between events and training sessions. But they said the policy managers are upfront about it. This is an opportunity to showcase to millions of people that plant proteins are a better alternative for the planet and can also support athletic performance. If they can do this stuff, that's why they're coming down so hard on the athletes. So you can sleep on cardboard and you can eat the bugs or the vegetables and have no protein

and you can still compete and somebody's going to win a gold medal and they can take whoever won the gold medal and was unable to uh set a record because of no sleep and no protein but they can they still win a gold medal and so we can use them as a poster child to sell these kind of measures to other people no air conditioning, cardboard beds, eating plants, and drinking untreated water in the Seine as you are trying to compete in these events. Muziki Nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopopoem, nopvin' tu, che tu s'affin' Tu, te deus, a sovin' tu, che te deus s'affin' Tu, te deus, a sovin' tu, che tu s'affin' Tu, te deus, a sovin' tu, che te deus s'affin' All right, joining us now is David Steinman. He's the author and co-author of the groundbreaking bestsellers

Diet for a Poisoned Planet and The Safe Shopper's Bible. He's also a director of HLF, featured as one of the experts and activists in an HBO Max documentary, Not So Pretty. And his investigative reporting and writing have won awards from Best of the West, California Newspaper Publishers Association, the Sierra Club and the green book festival he's publisher of healthy living g magazine and serves as director of the non-profit hlf which is healthy living foundation his book that we're going to be talking about today is raising healthy kids protecting your children from hidden chemical toxins and of course you can find that on amazon probably everywhere else as well.

Thank you for joining us, Mr. Stein. Oh, it's great to be here today. Well, thank you. Thank you. I was interested when I looked at this. Let's begin with the youngest kids, the kids that are developing and the risk to them from chemicals in the household and chemicals that the pregnant mother may come in contact with. Yeah, that's a great issue, David, because our lives have become so inundated with chemical toxins, most of them not revealed to us, but hidden. I'll just give you an example. You were

talking about our youngest kids, or rather uh during pregnancy when so much of our kids destiny really is is determined yes from exposures that we may not even be thinking about like for example cosmetics you know um a lot of cosmetics don't reveal the hidden chemicals that can cause harm to the fetus or the embryo. For example, there's a chemical called phthalate. And, you know, everyone is talking about plastic today, plastic in our water, plastic even in our bodies, in the ocean, in our food. And what researchers have found is that phthalates, which are plastics, are used in cosmetics to make them a little more pliable or hold in cosmetics. When mom is using these

cosmetics and just has high normal everyday levels, high normal everyday levels, her child is at much higher risk for being born with lost IQ points, as many as six to seven IQ points could be lost. Whoa. That's a lot. Yeah. Plus, yeah. I'm sorry, I was going to ask, what kind of cosmetics? I mean, is it, we're talking about lipstick or face powder or eye makeup or what kind of stuff?

You know, it's really pervasive. I'll just give you an example from the book. I talk about how when my kids brought home fragrances, right? You know, every teenager gets really concerned about social acceptance, so they start using deodorant, fragrances, and all. So my kid, one of my sons brought home English leather cologne, which I think, David, which I think every teenager since like 1965 is probably used that's right i remember using it when i was a teenager oh i know and it hasn't stopped my

friend it hasn't stopped but we measured it for phthalate i actually had it sent to the lab and it was loaded with so much phthalate and i told my son i said look you know i want to have grandkids and i want your kids to be really healthy. And if you keep using this stuff, I could speak frankly, you know, frankly to him. I said, it's going to damage your testicles and your sperm. Because what researchers have found out is that phthalates act like the sex hormone estrogen. So when your son's testicles are loaded up with phthalate, which they will be if mom continues to use the wrong cosmetics, not only does he lose IQ points and fertility and could be at risk for ADHD, but he loses his testosterone. Wow.

Because phthalates are like sex hormones. They imitate the hormone estrogen so when we ask why do why do our daughters now have why do our daughters have so much endometrial um endometriosis or polycystic ovary disease the answer is we're overloading them with estrogens that are hidden and one of the big culprits is cosmetics so i do share in raising healthy kids how do you find safe cosmetics i make it really simple but it's so important and of course we talked about english leather and it's been around forever but the formulations are changing all the time right uh you know today the the products that you get today are going to likely be very

different than what you use as a teenager. Even if it is the same brand and the same fragrance, it's still going to be probably a different formulation. They're constantly changing and improving these things, right? In terms of the things that they use for the manufacturing process and that type of thing. If you're looking at the ingredient list, you certainly will see that there are a lot of chemical toxins being used in cosmetics today that were not used 20 or 30 years ago and um cosmetics have always been a problem in society i mean you know the romans uh used cosmetics with lead and mercury for for the cosmetic effects you know. So really, in some ways, David, the safety has not really improved. It's probably just as bad today as it was 2,000 years ago.

It's just that we've changed the chemicals that are causing problems. And we're not telling, the worst thing is, you know, people would buy safe products if they only knew. But the way that it's, the way the game is played or rigged, industry doesn't have to tell consumers when they know there are hidden chemical toxins. I agree. And that's why my group, Healthy Living Foundation, has done so many legal actions in Washington, D.C. and California to make companies reveal these hidden chemical toxins in their consumer products. And, of course, you know, we look at this and we say, well, you know, that's going to be fine because I use that as a kid or whatever. I've always used that.

Well, that's not the same product. And you might look at these products and you say, well, I know I don't want something that's got lead in it or other things like that. But they might get the lead out. But now they put in some new chemical that you have no idea what this is or what the health effects of it are. And so that's how, as you point out, that's why you got to keep current on this, why something like your book,

your publication is going to help people because those things are constantly changing. Oh, they know about that one, so let's take that out. But we've got this new thing here and nobody's tested it. We're going to put that in and it can be something

that you don't even necessarily really internalize in terms of eating. But you're still going to be getting that in through your skin, breathing it in, other things like that. And it's going to have a big effect on you, isn't it? Yeah. You know, the thing is, there's no pre-market safety testing for cosmetics either. Yeah. The thing is, there's no pre-market safety testing for cosmetics either. So it's not like, as you mentioned, the concoctions are being tested to see what they will actually do to our reproductive capacity. We and our kids are actually the test animals in this case. That's right.

That's why I was just talking about that with vaccines. That's becoming the new thing. Oh, you got an MRA vaccine? You're approved. Go straight through. If they got a technology like 5G or something something we don't need to do any tests we need this so let's just run this thing through we'll just rubber stamp this through and of course that is going on with everything but especially with things that people are not necessarily even thinking

about in terms of cosmetics you've mentioned things like bubble baths. Yeah, as a matter of fact, a bubble bath is another big culprit. A lot of bubble baths are made using what's called an ethoxylated alcohol, and they're contaminated with dioxane. So essentially, you know, the same dioxane, by the way, is in shampoos. My nonprofit group, the Healthy Living Foundation, we sued Procter & Gamble. We sued them for having high amounts of a carcinogen in Pantene and herbal essences, shampoos. And we got them to reduce the levels by 90% in a consent judgment that we won in California Superior Court to make those products much safer. But you know, bubble bath like shampoos will contain a carcinogen called dioxane.

Here's one big tip that's in my book, though, that I want to share with your listeners. If you see an ingredient on your cosmetic label that has these three letters, ETH, like sodium lauryl sulfate don't buy it those are the ingredients that will be contaminated with chemicals that cause cancer so mom and dad when you're buying or mom and dad if you're buying shampoos for your kids or if you're just buying them for yourself or a bubble bath the big tip is avoid any chemicals with ethTH. You'll see it on the label. And if you do, you know that company is not looking out for your health or your kid's health. Wow, that's very important.

Well, we'll check our shampoo today. I'm going to get your book as well. When you look at all this, and you mentioned some of the biggest brands that are there, of course, you know, Johnson & Johnson's. And something as fundamental as baby powder. That has gone on for decades, and they continue to do it. Even after it was identified, they continued to run that through, didn't they? You're talking about the talc issue. Yeah.

That baby powders had talc. And that has been linked with ovarian cancer. So it's a really big issue. But I'll tell you something else, David. If you want to move a little from cosmetics to foods, I'll just give you an example while we're on the topic of our children. You know, in court in California, the HLF, the Healthy Living Foundation, we had to sue a large almond nut butter company. And I don't know if you want to mention names or not, but it's helpful and I don't mind sharing a little bit.

Yeah, go ahead. Because it's a public record, actually. But we sued Justin's Nut Butters, which is one of the most popular brands in the country because they have such a high amount of an industrial chemical called acrylamide that they were not telling their consumers about. Now, my kids, like a lot of kids, are trying to go healthy, and a lot of folks are trying to go paleo. So, they are buying a lot of almond butters, for example. And what I share in Raising

Healthy Kids, protecting your children from hidden chemical toxins is, when you're at that Whole Foods and you're looking for nut butters, you could reach for the Whole Foods nut butter, which we also tested and was very low and very safe compared to the Justin's. But neither is labeled for this industrial chemical called acrylamide. So the consumer is left in the dark. The problem is that acrylamide, as we were talking about with talc, is linked with an increasing incidence of endometrial cancer in our daughters. And that risk begins when they're kids and they're eating snack foods because the foods most likely to have acrylamide are snack foods

like nut butters or potato chips or french fries. And if we let our kids keep eating these foods we wonder again why is there so much endometriosis endometrial cancer reproductive cancers breast cancer all these cancers well i mentioned that some chemicals act like estrogen acrylamide also acts like the hormone estrogen so when our daughters are eating it it messes with their genes and causes them to produce a toxic form of estrogen that then increases their risk for reproductive cancers. So, again, David, these things are not being shared with consumers. And that's why I really felt it was necessary to write the book and share this information you know people can one of the fastest ways to make change in america is through the marketplace through the free market and we've

kind of always said well america is a free market we're capitalists but how free is a market when the manufacturers are withholding such vital information from the consumers and dumbing them down and that's what i'm fighting against to make people smarter and let them see what's really going on so they can protect themselves and their families. That's right. You can't have a marketplace, you can't have a free marketplace if the consumers don't have any information. Exactly.

That's exactly what we're saying. Let me ask you this. Why are they putting these industrial chemicals in? Is it to be able to process the food more easily? Is it to make it go through the machines better? Is that why these industrial chemicals are finding their way in? Is it to be able to process the food more easily? Is it to make it go through the machines better? Is that why these industrial chemicals are finding their way in? Processing is a big part of it. Sometimes companies are just cheap and they buy cheap materials and inferior materials. You know, also companies pretend like they have all these testing procedures in place.

They'll say our products are third party tested, et cetera, et cetera. What they're really saying is when we buy our materials, we tell our raw source material suppliers to test the products for us and give us those test results. But what they don't tell their suppliers is this is what we want to test you for what we want you to test for and these are the levels we want you to test at now because i've been in the trenches so long david i know what the suppliers to the brand say is well we're going to test the products but we're not really going to look for the chemicals that they're concerned about nor are we going to test at levels low enough to find them so we're going to send them a quality certificate that says that everything is non-detectable well we go in there and test the products with really good lab methods and that's when we find the

phthalates for example or the dioxane so um this is really kind of a self-induced blindness that the companies don't want to know the truth about their own products. So they leave it to their suppliers and their suppliers willingly lie and deceive them because they want to keep supplying inferior materials that don't cost as much to process. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We always see that. I mean, we see it with political polls yeah we we see it with uh when when they're uh looking at pharmaceuticals you might have three different companies and they both got pretty much the same they got three different drugs to teach a to treat a particular problem and so they'll each

hire their people to test it and uh lo and behold uh the people that you hired that you're paying are going to say that your brand is better than brand B and brand C. They've seen that over and over again. And so that's really what's happening because there isn't any oversight. There isn't any information outside this. You're our director of the Chemical Toxin Working Group. Tell us a little bit about that. Well, we began in 2012.

And our mission is to make companies reveal the hidden chemical toxins in their products and we Do a lot of testing and I'm always buying plates You know, I I spend hours every day or one of our shoppers will buying products for example We took on bumblebee Mm-hmm and chicken of the sea and we took them on for selling oysters and clams from china that were filled with lead so these products have so much lead in them that one and and folks these products are being sold in your neighborhood so if you see uh canned clams, oysters, mussels, and you want to have kids, these are not the products to buy. They have so much lead and cadmium in them, so much lead that eating one serving of one of these

products is equivalent to drinking about 20 glasses of drinking water from Flint, Michigan, during the height of the lead crisis. Wow. So I'm telling mom and dad, don't buy these canned shellfish products. If you want to have kids, you're going to inundate your fetus or your children with heavy metals. So we take on big companies. In that case, we took on Chicken of the Sea, as I mentioned, Bumblebee, Kroger, the supermarket supermarket chain and walmart all in one court case and these are billion dollar companies they joined together to fight us but we won we won in court we got a consent judgment and that consent judgment said now at least in california where we

have stronger consumer laws you have to notify the consumer on the label if your product contains heavy metals like lead or cadmium. So we run a big victory for consumers. And we continue to do that. We continue to work in the area of foods, cosmetics, vitamin supplements, and we test and we test. You know, another product we found um i never this is how we screw up fertility in america there there was a a very popular olive oil product we tested

that had a chemical called carbaryl in it they weren't telling their customers but we enlisted the help of them best the most respected researcher in this field in the country if not the world who had found that carbaryl at very low levels david the left from everyday exposures was damaging men's sperm so here you have a company selling olive oil products with carbaryl now men and women are using olive oil products daily. We use it for our health because of the fats, the different kinds of fats that are in olive oil. But if you're using it daily and it has so much carbaryl in it, and you're on the cusp of either having a family or not, as so many couples are in America, this is the kind of exposure that can bring you from able to have a child to not being

able to have a child. And it's every day and you're not being told. And, you know, your mom and dad are going, why aren't we conceiving? And dad is going, I don't know. I'm eating olive oil every day and trying to be really healthy. And what doesn't know of course is that that olive oil is tainted with carbo and that's damaging the sperm his sperm can't make it up the vaginal canal to this uh to the egg because they're not strong enough they don't have enough motility so um are they're misshapen so we really are damaging you know this is a micro world a nano world we're talking about within our bodies. Yes. But these are just examples of the kinds of things we're fighting on a daily basis.

We want a big settlement there. So Carver will no longer be found in this company's olive oil products. That's great. Yeah. You know, when we look at this, we see spermageddon. People have talked about that. Look at the decline in population. Look at the decline in population. Of course, there's a lot of different, there's sociological factors involved in it.

But a lot of this, I think, is, as you point out, a lot of it is the environment. A lot of it is the products that we use. It can be cleaning products. It can be cereal. It can be bubble bath. It can be all these cosmetics that we use. And we really don't understand that. And it is something that is

constantly changing and difficult to keep up with well one thing though for for listeners don't get don't get defeated don't throw your hands up and say it's all poisoned the reason why i wrote raising healthy kids is to give you a black belt in protecting your children in the chemical toxin jungle. Yes. Reading the book will really equip you. You'll read it once, you'll have all the information, and then you can go on with the rest of your life. There are so many things that are so important that you might not know about.

One little story in the book I'll just share. Family is in Portsouth new hampshire they just started their family they had two young kids they were sending off to preschool david what they didn't do was check the drinking water the tap water at the preschool that preschool was connected to a well that was drawing from an air force base that had been using all these forever chemicals. So their children were, their bloodstream was inundated with chemicals that caused cancer, kidney, and liver disease.

These kids were like four and five years old. The only thing they didn't do was ask the preschool, did you check your water? Do you test it? If they had just done that for 200 dollars wow they would have avoided a huge do you know the recrimination that we parents feel when our children suffer yes you know yes so there's so many things that people need to know big things that are simple but if you don't know them it can

change your life that's what i'm trying to do in raising healthy kids is give you those big tips that will protect you and your family and even as you pointed out before you know you you talked about the um uh the the products that uh one of them is bad and the other one sold uh right next to it yeah the whole foods you know if you've to eat this, don't eat that type of thing. But also, as you point out, you know, to check the water. It's amazing how much stuff finds its way into the water. It can be something that's put there by the water system or it can be something that is a spill. I remember a reporter that I talked to who was on the beat out in California. And there was a situation in a military base where they had disposed of a lot

of instruments that had radium in it. And nobody knew that. And it worked its way down into the water system. And so even though people were on well water, people out there in California were getting this radium, high concentrations of radium in their water. And it's like, you know, what's, uh, people are getting sick. So then they started investigating that.

But yeah, that, that's probably a good tip to constantly be checking your water to see if there's something there, even if you're not on a, uh, on a city system or something like that, even if you're pulling it out of the ground, there can still be groundwater contamination that you don't know about. Well, that's true. Now, some people might think that, well, what good will checking my water be if I can't afford to correct the problem? But what I did in Raising Healthy Kids is we went down to Cancer Alley, Louisiana,

and I wanted to go there to write some of the book Raising Healthy Kids because I wanted to make sure that everyone, no matter what their budget is, could do the things that I'm talking about in Raising Healthy Kids. So Cancer Alley is a stretch of river, Mississippi River between Baton Rouge and New Orleans. It's about 85 miles and there are about 150 to 200 chemical plants packed into these 85 miles you know you'll see all the ships coming up from the gulf with their oil and coal and or coming down the river with their coal and ore to these plants this is where all the chemicals in our in our cosmetics personal care products this is where they're all made as cancer alley where all these plants are the trouble is their drinking water

there is atrocious yeah we measure atrazine in it phthalates which we talked about hexachlorocyclopentadine i won't even go into what that is but lots of different chemicals and some people there though may make like 15 17 000 a year They don't make a lot of money. So what I often tell folks is, if you're on a budget, don't worry about testing your water at home. I'm talking about at home now. If you're on a budget, I want you to do these things. And this is what I share in the book, too. So this is a tip from our chapter on drinking water.

Get yourself a little faucet filter that fits at the end of your faucet. They cost about $25, right? And they do a pretty good job of filtering their water. But then I want you to get a pitcher filter like Zero Water or Brita. In our home, we use Zero Water. Why? Because it filters out those forever chemicals. So you put the water from your faucet,

and then you put it into your pitcher. So you've double filtered your water. That pitcher will cost about $30. So for about $50, David, you have filtered your water and reduced probably 85% to 90% of the contamination. Now, a really, you know, AAA system can run $300, $400 or more, but not everyone has an available $300 or $400 at one time. But most people can afford a $25, $30 purchase.

Yeah, that's right. So that's why I'm saying, now, if you were mentioning all these chemicals and your home, well, when you shower, you know, and the water gets hot, then these chemicals become volatile and you breathe them. So I want you to take another $20 and buy yourself a shower filter with activated carbon. Now for about $75, you've done most of your home but what if you garden now i want you to get a little filter for your hose so you can get them out of your garden too for another 20 or 25 dollars so for about a hundred dollars no matter where you live whether

it's cancer alley or the hamptons you can protect yourself and you need to do this because you know the chemical toxins we're talking about um tend to attack people of color more but they do attack everyone so everyone should be aware of this the point is is that all of us can do this don't let your budget be, don't say I can't afford it. I bust so many myths in raising healthy kids. People will say, for example, I can't afford organic foods because they're too expensive. Not true anymore. All the staples, David, all the staples, lettuce, celery, apples, they're all about the same price as conventionally growing now and that's because so many shoppers for the last 20 years have been waking up to to wanting food

without chemicals like pesticides or fungicides so they've grown this market again it's the free market yeah as the demand has grown prices have have gone down. So this summer, for example, or last summer, you know, I could find organic produce just by shopping online that was cheaper than conventionally sourced produce. And it's because we, the shoppers, are waking up and making a difference. That's great. Yeah, tell us a little bit about that too, because, you know, and I like what you had to say about the water. And everybody should bit about that too because you know and i like what you had to say about the water and everybody should start with water because you consume so much of that and even if you can't get one of these very expensive several hundred dollar filters it's

going to take out 99.9 percent of so many things if you can get 90 of it out that that is a huge uh difference it's going to make in your life but talk a little bit about the labels in terms of um you know something is organic something versus something that is non-gmo and some of these other things i think people get confused about that i'm sure you cover that in your book by the way the book is raising healthy kids protecting your children from hidden chemical toxins uh educates a little bit about some of these labels that we'll see out there and oh sure depend on sure well um one of the things i do talk about with regard to food is i do think organic food is a better choice than conventionally sourced food i'm not saying that organically grown foods are perfect but in writing

raising healthy kids i reviewed thousands and thousands of tests that were done on foods, organic and non-organic. And the non-organic food was really infiltrated with a lot of chemical pesticides that you're obviously not told about on the labeling. Whereas the organic foods rarely ever had any detectable pesticides. So the difference is enormous. And the reason why this is really important um again you know we're talking about cosmetic shaving iq points researchers at columbia in the north in new york city and uc davis in california found that when kids were exposed to the chemicals in our foods, like the pesticides,

they also lost five to seven IQ points. Now, the researchers in California found this among children who were exposed to pesticides because so many of their parents were farm workers. But in New York City, the kids' parents weren't exposed to pesticides because they were farm workers the kids were being exposed to these chemicals because they were eating the foods and they were also losing five to seven iq points so organic is the real thing and there are a lot of health benefits that come from organic foods i i know it's really fashionable to bash people like me who say, well, organics are great food. You want to call me a hippie or I don't know what.

But listen, the published peer-reviewed studies show that when your child is on an organic diet, they have less obesity, less diabetes, fewer skin and other kinds of allergies, lower risk of cancer. Mom, when she's pregnant and on organic foods, has fewer complications during her pregnancy too. And dad, dad will have more of those little baby sperms. His fertility will increase. So organic is the real thing now you can buy non-gmo that means the foods were not genetically modified and this is important too because one of the reasons why foods are being crops are being genetically modified

is that so farmers can apply more herbicide to them you know There's a reason why glyphosate or Roundup is showing up in so many foods in America today, and glyphosate is thought to cause cancer, among other problems. But the reason why it's showing up is so many crops are being genetically modified to withstand heavy doses of Roundup, so the herbicide companies can sell more roundup and the seed companies have modified their their crops so they can take that more roundup because they're the same company the seed companies and the herbicide companies are one in the same so you know you really do want to get non-gmo but non-gmo may still have other pesticides applied to

it that's right like i want to give you an example so you could have a sometimes non-gmo but non-gmo may still have other pesticides applied to it that's right i want to give you an example so you can have a something that's non-gmo as you said they might be putting that on there because they might want to really load it up with pesticides but something that is non-gmo can still have pesticides right oh yeah yeah and for example yeah every loaf of bread we've ever tested at the healthy living foundation has an organophosphate pesticide in it these organophosphate pesticides are nerve toxins they actually damage the synapses between your nerves and um inhibit an enzyme that breaks down the acetylcholine so at high doses they you would go into spasms and um wow be unable to function but at low doses these are what are causing adhd

in our kids yes and so every local bread it may say non-gmo but it's still going to be sprayed with herbicides or pesticides so organic is superior to non-gmo organic will still be non-gmo but it also precludes uh of the pesticides, all synthetic pesticides. And that's the key thing, that the organic is also non-GMO, right? Organic is also non-GMO, but it also precludes so many pesticides that would be used. That's right. So it's a better label. It checks both of those boxes, both pesticides and GMO. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's right so it's a better it's a better label it checks checks both of those boxes both uh pesticides and yeah exactly yeah that's good that's good that's important because it gets

confusing well what about uh do you talk anything about uh eggs i know this isn't really a chemical thing but it gets so confusing when you go there's like this is free range and this is you know all these different labels that they've got for the egg stuff is very confusing it's like i don't even know what uh the difference is with these with these uh different um labels that they got for the egg stuff is very confusing it's like i don't even know what the differences with these with these uh different um labels that they got for the eggs that that's a great question too that we're now we're talking about animals and uh for example free range pasture raised and grass-fed for beef for example is another one so um um being a bleeding heart for a for animal well uh liberal for animal welfare and human welfare as well but both of us i do try to buy products but i've looked them up and these labels can be misleading because if they say uh free range it could mean like maybe an hour or two a day that they're let out of their coop um so there are

um again i buy organic and i do look for um uh uncaged uh uh poultry uh eggs and that will it will say it on the label also you should get to know the company you're buying your eggs from, because as I said, they can claim to be free range, but not let their birds out very much. Um, because again, um,

unless it's a certain, most of them are certified. If they're certified, the animals will be treated much better. Um, also with beef, we, we also have now organic versus grass-fed beef and i'm okay with grass-fed

beef now the big thing with beef is that cattle in america are treated with hormones both estrogen and progesterone and uh testosterone and these levels can be measured in your beef so there have been articles recently about our daughters reaching menarche or puberty earlier and earlier yes and the reason why this is happening in western society again i'll come back to the sex hormones that we're inundating our kids with. If your daughter is eating a lot of beef and it's not grass-fed or organic, she's getting a lot of extra hormones. And these things will cause earlier menarche in our daughters. And that's not a good thing.

One, it increases their risk for breast cancer and other reproductive cancers the longer that reproductive window is open for for women uh the greater the chances for cancer later in life so we really want to be careful about that now with beef i mentioned i'm okay with grass-fed and i've studied this and that's because grass-fed beef also tends to be it may not be labeled organic but if you get beef that's been grass-fed from beginning to end it's still gonna it's not going to have hormones and it's going to be very low in any kind of pesticides that would have accumulated in the grains that are being fed um for example

corn-fed beef so grass-fed and organic are your best choices for beef and there's a big reason for that another good reason is ranchers who sell grass-fed beef pork and so on tend to think of themselves really as grass managers what they say is give me a little rain give me a little grass and i can give you your beef or your pork so they're very conservation oriented and i interviewed for raising healthy kids mel coleman whose ranch is up in colorado and he just talked about a hundred years of regenerative um ranching they've really remade um so much of that area into grasslands healthy grasslands because they move their herds. In this case, it was a couple thousand cattle at one time. But they move them in ways that the grass would regenerate and they were not fed corn and grains.

You want to avoid corn-fed or grain-fed beef, though that's the beef that will have the hormones added to it. You want grass-fed or organic when it comes to beef, pork, and your other meats. That's interesting. And of course, let me ask you this, because we've just had some of these cases come up with the Amish farmer, Amos Miller, who was, you had a situation where everybody's buying shares of his beef, and he was raising them grass-fed. And then when COVID came and it was difficult to get things to the market and have them slaughtered, he decided that he would do the slaughtering there, and it was kind of a club situation.

And so he did that. The USDA came in and shut him down, saying that you've got to have all of the cattle slaughtered at an official USDA site. Now, when they're taken there, they put them on grains there at the feedlots, right? But it's not enough that it's going to really make that big of a change. Is that the way we would look at it, or what do you think about that? Not every feedlot. No, grass-fed beef would not be fed. You want to be sure, but most grass-fed beef is not being finished with grains.

Oh, it's not? Okay. They're not being finished with grains. But you're right about the slaughterhouses. The USDA is really really really strict and you know even the labeling for our natural usda watered down that's why you know you're asking about labels you know you'll also see natural naturally raised on your beef products that doesn't mean anything so you want grass-fed what naturally raised means is just the they will still be given hormones or antibiotics in the case of poultry naturally raised does not mean that they weren't given hormones or antibiotics so naturally raised is not enough protection.

You want grass-fed or organic beef products. Let me ask you, you just mentioned poultry. I talked to a Tennessee state senator here, and I'm in Tennessee, Senator Nicely, and he was talking about how they finish off, in many cases, chicken with arsenic. Makes them gain weight very rapidly uh do it at the end of it and so you know you get uh this bloating of the chickens uh it's not enough to kill them before they slaughter them uh but uh what do you uh no and he said i

i've tried to get this stuff out but there's a lot of a lot of interest the the big business of the of the chicken thing they really fight uh, uh, stopping this arsenic. Is that something that you've seen or know about the arsenic and chickens at the end? Well, that, that is a new one. The arsenic. I don't know about arsenic, but I do know. I do know that generally speaking, uh, people will ask me what about when I'm

dining out, what do I do then if I don't, if will ask me, what about when I'm dining out? What do I do then if I'm not quite sure about the source of the meat? Generally speaking, and when I wrote Raising Healthy Kids, what I'm trying to do is get you the biggest reductions possible for the least effort or the least cost. Yeah, like we're talking about with the water, if you can get rid of 90% of it, that's a huge improvement. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's, you know, but when you're dining out and you're looking at meats, poultry is a much safer choice than beef. And the way to make your poultry safest or your beef safest is to cut out the fatty portions if you can resist not eating some of the fat. For example, some of the most harmful chemicals that we know today, like DDT and heptachlor, accumulate in the fatty portions of animals and humans.

So if you have a nice cut of beef with a lot of fat on it, it will tend to have more pesticide in it. If you are serving, if you're buying poultry for example and you have fried chicken you know the skin is the fattiest portion plus that breaded portion will have all those organic phosphate pesticides so you might be better off with a grilled a piece of with grilled chicken for example but when you're dining out poultry is always safer than beef turkey is always safer than um chicken and it's just the way the studies come out um so that's another tip that i bring up in raising healthy kids is when you're dining out what do you look for that's great that's great and

that's the key thing is is just being wise and trying to minimize because there isn't a 100% solution for anything. In the real world, you're just trying to minimize the harmful stuff and maximize the beneficial stuff. And that's the real wisdom of the book, I think. Well, is there a category here that we haven't talked about? We've talked about pesticides. We've talked about cosmetics. We've talked about vegetables. We haven't talked about cosmetics. We've talked about, uh, we've talked about visually, we haven't talked about, uh, cereals

and stuff. I guess, you know, when you look at the cereal and it's all these bright fluorescent colors, you might think that something's wrong, but there's probably a lot of things that put themselves out there as a healthy cereal that probably have the same problems as that bright fluorescent colored stuff too. Maybe, huh? Oh my God. You mean those fruit loops?

You mean those fruit loops weren't that healthy? I thought fruit loops were part of a winning breakfast that's right oh no tell me they really advertise that stuff uh heavily to the kids don't they so what does a parent do if they want to get some cereal so what's the best bet on that cereal yeah um again the grains are heavily sprayed with organophosphate pesticides so your number one uh decision maker for cereals mom and dad is get it organic don't think they will be more expensive and don't let anyone tell you that you're you're being silly or dumb for for buying organic foods i know there's a lot of organic food bashing going on, but it makes a huge difference in your kid's life.

I'm really coming to you with straight facts. When you're buying cereal, you want organic. You know, I talk to so many parents who find that when they stop serving their kids, all these food dyes, like we were talking about Fruit Loops, right? And, you know, cereals can be so brightly colored with often they were and still continue to be with food dyes these food dyes are another cause of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder wow and mom and dad will find that when they remove food dyes from their kid's diet as well as the organophosphate pesticides in their grains, their kid's behavior will improve and it comes pretty fast. So organic is the big key for buying the cereals as well.

And it will go a long way towards giving your child a better breakfast. Stay away from all those food dyes that are in the cereals oh yeah and that's a key thing which you mentioned the fact that as as the marketplace says we want more organic uh then that starts to build a critical mass and it starts to get cheaper as you point out it's not a premium product anymore you can get it at the same price as you said uh some places you can find it less than the non-organic stuff so it's no longer a something is available only to people who have more money to spend on the food you could certainly make the argument that you're going to save as you did with the the water testing money spent up front on making sure that your food is

clean your water is clean is going to be a real economic decision rather than having to treat the results of eating food that is loaded with all these other things i mean you know let the food be your medicine up front and not create these situations that's the really wise thing i think yeah i i think that you know the the hundred dollars for example we talked about you may spend to filter your water if you're on a budget is going to be so much more valuable than the health insurance you get you know filtering your waters can prevent illness health insurance is going to pay for some of your illness yeah that's right so you know and these you know david these changes come when you start on on a really wholesome diet like i'm prescribing in Raising Healthy Kids,

you feel better, and these changes come almost immediately. Our bodies are extremely sensitive to our environment, our internal environment and our external environment. And mom and dad, as you put your kids on a healthier diet, their behaviors will improve, your health will improve. It really works. Plus, the big thing is, you know, we're talking about organic foods, how shoppers have created that market. You know, in my reporting in California, I used to go to a town in California called Salinas.

And Salinas is called the salad bowl of America because about 70% of all lettuce is grown in this area of california the town and all the schools are carved right out of the farm fields you'll see thousands of acres of farm field and then a little school in the middle there i used to go to these schools and they were surrounded by fields being sprayed with pesticides wow And the kids were playing in the yard. There's a chain link fence. And on the other side of the yard and the chain link fences, the farm field, and there's no buffer and they're all being sprayed. I returned to Salinas to write Raising Healthy Kids during the pandemic and went to these same schools, they were all surrounded by organic strawberry and lettuce fields. So I called up one of the teachers. I said, what's going on here? He said,

well, David, it's because of shoppers like you that have motivated all the farmers here to go organic. So they're planting organic strawberry and lettuce fields all around the schools now to grow these crops that you're buying. And I was really, David, I was really overjoyed. I was kind of crying with joy because, listen, for years in the early 2000s when there was barely an organic market, I would listen to all these people saying, you know, why waste your money on organic foods? Why pay this much for those organic strawberries? I was doing it kind of on faith that I was making a difference. But to see it materialize in Salinas like I did,

told me that my actions are not only good for my health and my family's health, but they're actually helping my neighbors, people I may never have known 300 miles north of me. But now I can see that my choices were improving their lives too that's right yeah we i always say that the uh the issues are local and we do it uh one-on-one and we do it from the ground up if we want real change and uh i've seen this type of thing even in my life i've told the story before on on the radio here that 40 years ago, we had a dog that came down with a particular type of lymphoma. And I heard a radio report about how farm workers were getting that same thing. And they said, yeah, they use this stuff.

They spray it on lawns, you know, to keep weeds down and everything. And our dog was getting out and got into that. And so it's like that really clicked with me right right there how important that exposure is and yeah it's been a that's huge david that's so huge because you know to back up what you're saying there are actually studies that show that when we use these we didn't really talk about our lawns but ask if if you're able to afford someone who's taking care of your lawn ask them what they're using please know what they're using and if they're using chemical pesticides please tell them to stop not only for your kids but david there are studies now that show that these same chemicals do cause increased cancer in our

canine friends yeah that's right so what's your dog you know the lymphoma was definitely oh yeah you see the link pretty clearly it was even the company that didn't even put a sign out said you know keep kids and dogs and pets and everything off of this lawn it's like why would you put something on there that you can't have kids and pets on in the first place but you know we weren't doing our lawn but the neighbor was and he's getting out escaping out of the fence and getting over into their lawn and so yeah it was pretty clear what was happening with it same type of cancer that they had with that so yeah it affects our lives in so many different ways and and it's something that is being done i think in many cases taking an economic shortcut uh as you point out you know they might save just a little

bit of money but it's the volume that they make it up on and so i think that's one of the other reasons why if we keep it small if we keep it local that helps a great deal but as you pointed out by voting with our pocketbook and voting for organic stuff and i think the same thing's going to happen if we do that with other products if we do that with uh cosmetics and other things like that make it known to them hey we don't want this stuff you know that's such a marketplace thing can can work with other things other than um food. We can have organic makeup and other things like that. So that's important. Yeah.

You know, there's a lot of stupidity in the world, and someone has to be the adult. Yeah. And to be adults, we need information. That's right. If they keep keeping it, you're so right, though, because, you know, organic cosmetics are now widely available, David. Again, it's because of shoppers saying,

hey, I just don't want these chemicals, and companies are responding because of the profit motive. That's right. So you're absolutely right. We are changing the market. So be a smart consumer, and one of the ways that you can educate yourself about what is going on. Very quickly, excellent book,

Raising Healthy Kids, Protecting Your Children from Hidden Chemicals and Toxins, David Steinman. quickly excellent book uh raising healthy kids protecting your children from hidden chemicals and toxins uh david steinman and uh david uh is there uh it's on amazon uh is there a place that you'd prefer that they go is there some place that you sell that directly or a website oh thank you for asking support your local bookseller the book is available everywhere so go to your local independent bookseller and you can get raising healthy kids protecting your children from hidden chemical toxins good or you can go to amazon and barnes and noble you know yeah the uh the people that uh work there guys pretty hard you guys i agree yeah get it get it locally if you can and it probably is everywhere raising

healthy kids uh by david steinman it's uh been a real pleasure talking to you, and that's a very important book, and we will be getting that for our family, absolutely, because my son's wife is pregnant, and so we really want to talk about this stuff right now. Yeah, that's right. We better get you a copy, ASAP, my friend. We will. Thank you so much, David. It was great talking to you.

A very important book, Raising Healthy Kids. Have a good will. Thank you so much, David. It was great talking to you. A very important book, Raising Healthy Kids. Have a great day. Thank you so much. And folks, thank you. We're just about at the end of the show here, and I want to thank everybody for joining us. I've got one more thing that I did not cover that was sent to us besides the flag,

and that is this book. They said I can give this to my kids. Dr. Fauci, how a boy from Brooklyn became America's doctor. Yeah, that can educate the kids about Dr. Fauci. Or I guess we could go back and get the archives for when the kid's a little bit older and I'll educate them about a lot of things about Dr. Fauci and other things that are happening in our society. Terima kasih telah menonton! 🎵 Thank you. Let's talk a little bit about fear because i mentioned this yesterday i said why do you have these christian pastors out there who are putting in a spirit of fear and to people about this election so we don't need to fear this we ought to look at it objectively and everything but we need to set the standard of morality high we need to set the standard of morality high.

We need to set the standard of Christ high. And we don't need to yoke ourselves to these corrupt individuals, and they'll apologetically say, well, you know, nobody's perfect. Well, most people don't brag about their – that's one of the things I said about Trump from the very beginning. I said, you know, for the longest time, I had said, you know, what is it about the lgbt people well they have their pride parades i said they're proud of their sin i said people don't typically parade

their sin and they're not typically proud of it but these people are and uh and i even use the analogy i said do you have adulterer parades, you know, that might wind you up in divorce court? But, you know, when Trump came on the scene politically, I said, well, I guess I have to change that analogy because he is somebody who is proud of his adultery. Right. He parades his immorality like the LGBT people do. And that's a big problem. Why would you ally yourself to that? And you have the Christian churches

who will criticize, the conservatives who will criticize the liberal Christians who attach themselves to LGBT and elevate and worship LGBT, and yet they do it with Trump. And the two of them are both proud of their sin. But it really comes down to fear.

And I saw this on World. It says, are conservative Christians driven by fear? You know, you got a lot of the so-called leaders tell you to vote out of fear. And a lot of these leaders were also telling you four years ago, like Al Mueller was telling you to take the vaccine out of fear and do it because you love your neighbor and so forth, all these different things. But the question is, you know,

should Christians be looking to Christ as their leader? Because if you're looking to Christ as your leader, you don't have fear, right? Why would you fear? If you really see yourself in his hand, what would you fear? If Christians ever, and I say Christians at large, right? If the church at large begins to see itself in the hand of Christ, if they see Christ as their leader and their protector,

that's going to make a big difference. But if they don't, they have to keep quiet. They have to not rock the boat. And they're ashamed of their faith, and they live in fear. And it's being sold to them by these people who have thousands of people show up every week to their building and um or they run seminaries like al moore and um you know they've got to toe that line or they want to have connections to politicians you know they want to be seen uh standing next to trump or praying for Trump or whatever.

You know, you stop and think about it. Christ said, those who are not sick don't need a physician. If you think you've got everything handled and you don't need any forgiveness, you're not going to get forgiveness. And, you know, you see that with trump don't you i've played for you the clips where frank luntz and um jake tapper of all people uh talk to him don't you think you need forgiveness you say that you know you kind of nod your head to the christians and so forth and no i don't really think i need any forgiveness i really don't think i need any forgiveness that is the most dangerous position where are all these people who are praying for him No, I don't really think I need any forgiveness. I really don't think I need any forgiveness.

That is the most dangerous position. Where are all these people who are praying for him? Do they really love him? If they won't tell him that he does need forgiveness and where he can find forgiveness? You got all these pastors like Paula White and this Hispanic guy that I don't know,aldonado or something, was it? The guy who has six homes, a private jet, $120 million in terms of his net assets and all the rest of it. Does he talk to Trump and say, you know, you stand condemned before God, and the only way that you're going to stop that condemnation is through Christ? They've never given him the gospel.

These people stand next to him. They make a big show out of praying for him. They hate him. How could you do that over and over again? I'm his spiritual advisor, says Paula White. How could you do that over and over again? You don't tell him the gospel? What they're doing is they're feeding his greed because these people are greedy.

Paula White and these other prosperity gospel preachers are just all about the money, and so is Trump. And they just, you know, they just grift off of each other. They have nothing to do with the gospel. They have no hope to give him. And they are trying to put that spirit of fear in you. And it's not just the prosperity gospel people either. It's a lot of these Baptist conservative preachers out there who are doing it. I said the Archbishop Vigano, who is a conservative and does politics, he's doing that as well.

And so this guy says, you know, talking about fear, he said at times, it seems like the media is obsessed with the fears that conservative christians supposedly possess and with that he's talking about how they always call us transphobic or homophobic or this it's always a phobia there right so he says well you know they they uh have a chris christianophobia christianophobia maybe um i think we just need to stop with all the fraudulent psychology, all the Sigmund Freud. Freud is a fraud. Let's stop with all the phobia stuff. Let's just understand we've got nothing to fear but God.

And if you fear God, he is a merciful God as well. But it has been argued that these fears have turned christians into monsters made them afraid of women motivated their voting and led them to become intolerant scholars have argued that conservative christianity has created a culture of fear and they've called conservative christianity the religion of fear well i gotta say you know when you look at these people who are telling you gotta vote for trump what they're doing they're telling you that out of fear they're trying to gen that that fear with people um they even accuse christians of fearing that they are declining and thus need to increase their fertility. He says, as I studied Christianophobia and academic bias, he said, I realized that the

academics have a powerful motivation to focus on negative characteristics with Christians, particularly white evangelicals. It's not simply that certain academics seek to portray Christians in a negative light, but it's also the fact that they are hesitant to see the same negative traits among other groups, particularly groups that they're a member of. You can always see the moat in the other person's eye, the log in the other person's eye, the splinter, and you don't see the big one in yours.

But these people are full of fear, aren't they, on the left? They have the atmosphere of global warming and co2 they have trump fear you know just like the uh a lot of these conservative christians are pushing the fear of lala well these people push the fear of trump when it became apparent that biden was highly unlikely to win re-election it was not merely the tone of disappointment but it was a sound of desperation and it was also the sound of fear and i say that you know he says ah look at this and i see that they have a lot of fear and they can't see their fear can we see our fear you know they were afraid with biden there it's collapsing he's not going to win everything is lost are we seeing the same

type of thing on our side right this is what was the basis of the grift of stop the steal and trump's save america was the fear got a lot of people uh into a lot of trouble unnecessarily i said there's no reason to go there I said it's going to be a trap they trap us with fear they destroy us they use depopulation shots on us because of fear we should not have fear like these other people but I see that same type of fear that he sees in the left about Biden I see that same type of fear on the sees in the left about biden uh i see that same type of fear on the right being sold by people who should be christian leaders do we believe that those

who lament about the end of democracy see both sides are saying this and if we're not careful if we don't push back against this fear this fear is going to be used to create a civil war one way or the other. That's why they're doing it. The fear that their political or religious group is going to be left out. Well, I just have to say that as Christians, we're not given a spirit of fear. So if you've got a Christian leader who is selling you fear, then they're not selling you Christ. They're selling you something else. They have a spirit that is opposed to Christ.

That spirit of fear is coming from Satan. It's not coming from Christ. And these politicians, wannabe politicians, who are standing up in front of these churches and telling people, you've got to vote for Trump. You've got to vote or it's a sin. They're selling you a spirit of fear. They're not giving you a message from Christ.

They're giving you a message from Satan. What is it? The political progressives fear. And how might that fear be manifested in their actions in our society? He said, my recent work points to a distinct source of fear for political progressives. And that is conservative Christiansians they fear christians they don't fear god they fear christians well um he says christians can say that they have a right to fear the larger culture as well ultimately i cannot determine if

the fear within progressives is higher or more consequential than the fear within Christians. As I said yesterday, repeated over and over again in the Bible, fear not, fear not, fear not. Why? Because God rules. God rules even when we have totalitarians in place in our society. God still rules. And even when the wicked succeed, God rules. I ask the question in Psalms so many times.

Why do the wicked prosper? Why do they succeed? Well, we take solace in the fact that God is in control and that he sees what is happening so let them fear we don't have that spirit if we have that spirit you better cast it out and you better stop paying attention to these people who are pushing that fear of biased and false news has has become all too common on social media. More alarmingly, some media outlets publish these stories simply because they are true without checking facts first.

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