The David Knight Show - Wed Episode #2,005

Episode Date: May 7, 2025

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Music In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. It's the David Knight Show. As the clock strikes 13, it's Wednesday the 7th of May, year of our Lord 2025. Well today begins Real ID. And of course they're saying they're going to make some concessions, a lot of extra paperwork if you don't have it, but this goes back of course to 9-11. And we're also going to be talking about how we laid the foundation for this police state. The Real ID Law goes back to 2005 when they did the PREP Act, but today we're going to

have as our guest in the third hour, Chris Emery. His documentary that's been around for about a decade, a little bit more than a decade, they now have some new information about the Oklahoma City bombing. I think you're gonna find a fascinating refresher course for what was before 9-11 the biggest terrorist attack on American soil. Both it and 9-11 terrorist attacks done by our government. A lot of information pointing to that. So he's going to be joining us in the third hour. We have an interview that recorded yesterday.

So I know how good it is. You'll want to hang around for that. We'll be right back. We're also going to have an update as to the amazing pump and dump grift in the Trump meme coin. The numbers are staggering. The number of people who lost money and the few who made an astounding astronomical amount of money. Well, let's talk first about the federal real ID.

As I said before, this goes back to 2005. This is when we started having all of the legislation for the police state, police and surveillance state, in the aftermath of 9-11 and in the aftermath of the commission that was there to study it, of course. It was not there to do a cover-up and it was there to recommend the next steps to be taken based on that phony event. No people died, but I'm saying that the funny explanation that they had for it federal real ID requirements take effect today as airport worries grow

They'll have enhanced security features of course on these real IDs. They've got the barcodes holograms all these things supposedly for anti counterfeiting and Even though this has been delayed it was supposed to go into effect in 2008, it's been delayed because we don't want an ID. But they're busy working on implementing the digital ID. That's what the digital cash is about. That's what the stablecoins are about. That's what the crypto is about. All of it is about setting up a digital ID with biometrics on it as well. So in a sense, this real ID is very antiquated, but the concerns are the same and the motivations

are the same. So beginning today, to get onto a domestic flight, to enter secure federal facilities. Why would you ever want to do that voluntarily? Ha ha ha? Or to access certain military bases after the deadline has been pushed back multiple times over a 20-year period. The requirement of real ID comes from 20 years ago. The Commission on 9-11 and they said we've got to make IDs harder to fake.

What about that ID that they found on the pile of the rubble there? We're supposed to believe that you had this massive airplane crash, fires and all the rest of the stuff, and somebody allegedly found that ID on the ground, handed it over to the New York Police Department as an ID for Satam Al Suqwami. Yeah, yeah, nothing suspicious about that, right? We'll talk about fake IDs. I wonder if, can the real ID survive an airplane fire? Is that why they're requiring it on airplanes now. So we'll be able to go through and get everybody's ID after they have crashed. The black box ID. But again, this is going back to 2005 and of course as part of that legislative suite

they put in the PREP Act, that notorious abomination that says that you can't get any compensation for what they do to you with emergency vaccines, the PREP Act. Even worse than the 1986 Childhood Vaccine Act that Fauci pushed through. So yeah, the rush of 9-11. Well Kristi Noem says, travelers with no real ID can still fly for now. For now. Isn't that nice? How nice of her. But you'll be having to take extra steps, says the Homeland Security head who likes to play dress up. You'll still be able to fly, but you have to be prepared for extra scrutiny because you know, you have to prove that you're not a terrorist.

Gotta prove it. Gotta prove it to fly. Isn't that amazing? I am just so done with airports and airplanes. I hope I never have to fly again. You may be diverted to a different line, and you may have to take extra steps, but people will now still be allowed to fly for now and of course the the extra steps are a lot of forms from your government these IDs keep our country safe she said no they

don't no they don't neither Neither does she, neither does Homeland Security. They don't keep us safe. But did you get a goal star reminiscent of the Nazi government? It feels like an attack on everyday people, said one person. Having to upgrade their licenses, all this identification for something that really, you know, seems like we've been fine without it. We'd be much better off without the government pushing it. We'd be much better off without the government that pushes it. Travelers without Real ID can use their passport, but even with that, there's still alternatives for the new requirements. So even if you don't have a passport, you can fill out a Transportation Security Administration Form 1415, also known as the

Certification of Identity Form. And if the TSA official is able to confirm the details given to them, passengers will be allowed to go through the security checkpoints and board their flights. Passengers who go this route may be subject to additional pack downs and screenings and questions and other extra security. You know, one of the reasons I hate flying is because I absolutely refuse to use these machines out of principle, not necessarily... I don't know what they're doing physically, medically to you, but I refuse out of principle, not necessarily... I don't know what they're doing physically, medically to you, but I refuse out of principle to use them. So when we travel, even... so I always go through the pack down stuff. And you know the little game

that they like to do with me, is they like to make me stand next to the X-ray machine, which I also refuse to do. It's just a wonderful experience. They want me to stand next to the X-ray machine because I don't want to go through the scanner and I refused to stand next to the X-ray machine. And when I traveled with my family, one time when we went up to Washington state, we came back and we all opt out. And so, the one guy says, oh, let's just go, you know, just let you through right because it was all family and we're all opting out of it and everything except Travis got in a different line and They put him over on the other side and they did give him the full pat-down treatment. And of course I

videotaped that right on the phone and So I'm making a video of it and the guy gets really upset. He said, I just let you through and and now you do this to us? And I turned the camera on him and I said, you haven't done me and my family a favor at all. We're Americans. We don't deserve to be treated like criminals. Like we live in a Nazi country. Your identity papers please? me your identity papers, right? Nazi occupied America is what this is. You're not doing me a favor to let me through. So, yeah, if I keep flying, I'm going to get arrested.

Because they keep getting worse. Airport detentions have travelers freaked out says the Atlantic. Freaks me out, certainly does, because I know where all this stuff came from. I know about the underwear bomber, I mean you know about that right? I can't even remember the lawyer's name. I interviewed him several times. There was a lawyer who, you know, this under, this disheveled guy, was a lawyer who was coming back on the plane. They're coming from abroad. His name was Haskell, I think.

He's now out of the country. I think he's living in Panama. He must be really happy with the Trump moves about Panama. Anyway, he was a lawyer and he noticed in this foreign country, he's sitting there and this really disheveled guy comes up and he's accompanied by a guy that is very sharply dressed in a suit and all the rest of this stuff. And the guy who's in the suit talks to the attendant there to check this person in or whatever and the other guy is going out of it.

Now, that's really strange. He's looking at how strange that is. And so then they get on the plane, and this guy is setting up a couple of rows in front of him. It's like, that's the guy, you know? And so he's kind of watching this guy. He's like, what is this guy? Is he a criminal or something?

Why has he got a guy in a suit escorting him the way he's dressed? I mean, he looks like a homeless guy they just drug off the street and then in the flight you know this guy tries to you know set his underwear on fire whatever it was that he did you know it was the the pretense for them to put in the scanners it was so funny that American Carol that was done by the Zucker brothers, I think, comedy. And they had predicted this whole thing with the absurdity. As people were going through security, they were having to take, well, we have to take

this off now because this mom or this mom or that. I think that was before all of that, if I remember correctly. But whether it was before or after it, it certainly was an accurate satire. Anyway, he sees this guy doing this and he wanted to testify and say this whole thing was a setup and this guy's lawyer wanted him to testify, he said. And of course, you know, the witness was a lawyer himself. What they did was the guy used the fact that this very credible witness, a lawyer himself, had seen this whole thing set up and knew it was a set up and was going to tell people

it was a set up. And the other lawyer, lawyer for the guy that was the supposed underwear bomber, used that as leverage to get a favorable plea bargain for his client and not go to court. And he was really bummed out about that because he wanted the truth to come out. So he's going on a lot of alternative media. I interviewed him twice. So the interesting thing about it is, of course, that Chertoff, the first head of Homeland Security, had left the government at that point in time. He was working with a company that was ready to roll out these body scanners.

They had them all manufactured and waiting to roll out. This all happened on Christmas holidays, right? And then the following Thanksgiving, there was a boycott of the scanner machines that was organized, and we heavily promoted it at Infowars. And in response to this organized boycott, on the heaviest travel day of the year around Thanksgiving, they just shut down all the machines and all the scanning and everything. Just let everybody go through. No problem. Because they didn't want to lose that pushback from citizens. They didn't want people to feel how powerful they were. But you, it was in response to the citizens. They did

surrender that. And it showed that all of this stuff is a fraud. And of course we have seen over and over again. We have congressmen who will not tell us the truth. They won't tell, they have seen where the audit tests that look to see if you can sneak something through on them deliberately, right? They test them out. And they've hinted that it is in the high 80s or low 90s percentile of failure. But they won't tell us. Our congressmen won't tell

us. They could go on the floor of Congress and they could tell it and they could do that with immunity. But they won't do it. They won't do it. And so we know that it doesn't work. The other thing that we know, And so we know that it doesn't work. The other thing that we know, reason that we know that it doesn't work is because if there was a threat to airports or airplanes, we would have had an attack because they're totally ineffective.

Their measures, if you've got something that fails 90% of the time, and if there's a real threat out there, we would have already had some attacks. And of course, one of the other. And if there's a real threat out there, we would have already had some attacks. And of course, one of the other pushbacks against this was an engineer who sued them and as part of discovery, he got information with internal TSA documents. Now the government did not want those in the public record without redaction. But lawsuits get published on a website called Pacer.gov. And they mistakenly published the unredacted versions and had them up for almost a day.

It was like put up in the morning, they got it down in the afternoon because we started heavily reporting it at Infowars. The guy called us up and said, hey, you know, they put this unredacted report up. You might want to grab it, which we did. Then they took it down, and then they put up the redacted version, which was really handy, because we could go through and look at these things side by side and see what is it that they didn't want us to know that we now know. And the key thing that came out of that was in 2011, as there were all these fights going on, there was a fight in the Texas Legislature to stop the TSA from doing the pat-down of children. It was put in by David Simpson, who was a genuine Christian

conservative there in Texas. He did some really good work, no longer in the legislature of course. And he put out a bill and it passed unanimously in the Texas House. And they said, you're not going to do that. And if you continue to pack down children and put them through naked body scanners and stuff, we're not going to allow that to happen in Texas. And so you had, when it went to the Senate, it got shut down there because Lieutenant Governor was former CIA. And he took his position as Lieutenant Governor and head of the Senate to shut it down there. He was somebody who after he got out of the CIA was set up in the oil business, you know, like the Bush's, you know, that's what they

like to do. And he spent more money getting elected as lieutenant governor than anybody had ever spent up to that time running for office in Texas. He shut it down. They did it a second time, and again, it passed, not unanimously that time, but they were able to shut it down a second time. As all of that was happening, in 2011, this document that surfaced as part of this lawsuit that they published unredacted, then put up the redacted version of it later. That document said in 2011 when they were threatening to turn they

said you pass that we're gonna shut off all air traffic to Texas said the federal government. And what that said was that there was no, the TSA's own assessment said there was no threat to either airports or airplanes in that document. And of course we know that because we know how ineffective their measures are. You know, when you bunch everybody up for the sake of security, what you've done is you've created a bigger terrorist opportunity. We know this just from common sense. We know it from security people. They say you bunch everybody up at a checkpoint, terrorists will just bomb them there, right? And we've seen that happen

in Muslim countries where you have people in the church will get airport type security, bag checks, all the rest of the stuff, and it bunches everybody up. And so what the terrorists do, they set the bomb off at that location. So airport detentions have travelers freaked out, says the Atlantic. Now they're talking about predominantly people who are immigrants or visitors or whatever they might have. Green cards that are legal, but that doesn't matter, not with the new border patrol and customs, right? They said the anxiety is not limited to immigration lawyers ahead of summer travel season.

Online message boards have been humming with vacation worries. Users are telling one another to delete social media accounts on their devices, turn off facial recognition features to make it harder for officers to gain access, and pack photocopies of their personal documents, such as birth and marriage certificates. This is what we have to do to travel. I blame the license, license to drive stuff. That's part of the slope as to going back even before this deliberate police state stuff. The idea that you'd have to have the government's permission to travel.

No. I know people who are sovereign citizens who say, well, if I'm driving for commercial purposes, you can regulate me, but if I'm traveling, and I'm traveling, I'm not here for hire, I'm not making a living doing this, you have no right to require a driver's license. And legally, they're 100% right. But just like all the rest of this stuff, our court system is so legally, they're 100% right. But just like all the rest of this stuff, our court system is so corrupt, they're not interested in hearing legal arguments. I've known people who've been tax protesters and said, well, here, according to this, blah, blah, blah. And the judge says, you're not going to talk about that. And if you continue

to talk about it, I'll hold you in contempt. Next. Go to your next thing. And shut down one after the other, any arguments. I'm not going to listen to anything. I'm not going to let the jury hear any evidence against that. That's the way our court systems are. I've seen it over and over again. Not just in taxes, not just in identification or driving. I've seen it with everything, everything that they do, if it has something to do with their

power. In March, a German-born New Hampshire resident arriving at Boston's Logan Airport was arrested and jailed, now faces deportation over a years-old marijuana charge. A Canadian woman detained at a Southern California border crossing spent two weeks in a grim immigration and customs enforcement lockup. A green card holder from Ireland, who has lived in the United States for 40 years, was taken into custody last month in San Francisco International Airport because of drug convictions that had been expunged from her record.

She is still in ICE custody and faces deportation. There's also the story that I told about the two German teen girls that were backpacking around the world. And when they got to Hawaii, the Customs and Border Patrol people wanted to know where they were staying, what hotel was like. We're not staying in a hotel, we're backpacking. And they arrested them. I mean they put these two girls in shackles, kept them in lockup

with some dangerous people for a couple of days and then put them in shackles again and took them to the airport and send them out of the country. Our country is getting crazy folks. You can argue all you want about justification for this and exceptions for this. We're okay because Trump sent over office and all the rest of this stuff. No, no. And it's both, it's not just Trump, it's Trump Democrats, all of them. All of them. Lawyers say that their clients, foreign citizens residing abroad or green card holders living

in the United States, even some U.S. citizens, are worried that their interaction with the Border Patrol officers stationed at airports and border crossings will end badly. David Fishman, a travel consultant in Michigan, says he will tell anxious travelers when they're planning their vacations, consider booking a domestic trip instead of going abroad, if only for peace of mind. You know, if you stay within the continental United States, you know, even going to Hawaii, he says, you don't have to worry about border patrol. You don't have to have a face-to-face with them.

Not yet, anyway, right? But you understand transportation, the TSA is about transportation, not about airports. It's the Transportation Security Administration or agency or whatever it's called. It's about transportation. And they've tried in the past to roll this kind of stuff out on domestic bus travel, greyhound travel, things like that, or trains. It's coming. And it's one of the reasons why they want to push these 15-minute cities and these, you know, the cars that Elon Musk and Uber and all the rest of them are going to rent

to you by the ride, is because they don't want you traveling without their permission. It's all about the ID. Although US citizens cannot be denied entry into the US, all other categories of non-citizens, even in some cases legal permanent residents with green cards, are at risk of being denied entry or deemed inadmissible by a Customs and Border Patrol officer. Well, we're going to take a break when we come back. We're going to talk about the, you know, we talked in the past about the billionaire sports stadiums and we're going to talk about the billionaire data centers.

What an astounding ripoff that is, even worse than the sports stadiums. Not nearly as entertaining either. And so we will talk about that and we'll talk about how the only success that people have had in terms of stopping this has been organizing locally. And there are some groups that are helping people to organize locally. And so we're going to take a quick break and we will be right back. The So Analyzing the globalist's next move. And now, the David Nutz Show. On Rumble, T. Norman artist says, real ID? Murder Jab? Spraying us like bugs every day? Our government hates us and wants to kill us all. You're absolutely right. Certainly

the people who run it from the top down. On Rumble, Wally Walrus says, I don't fly anymore anyway. I got robbed at PDX airport for $5,000 in 2018. They haven't flown since. I'm assuming that was the so-called civil asset forfeiture where they take your cash because, you know, cash is a crime and don't charge you with breaking the law. That's where the civil comes in. This is not a law. This is a rule passed by the regulatory agencies. Therefore, you have no due process. We don't have to charge and convict you before we take your assets. We just take them. We just steal it. And we call it Civil Asset Forfeiture 1. What an amazing euphemism that is. Anyway, on Rumble, KWD 68. Trump said Doge found something unbelievable. That was two weeks ago. Put that on the list with all the other non-delivered daily mouth diarrhea on Rumble.

So I went, goy, said are we going to need permits to leave our pods in 2050? Well, that would be a definitive yes. They get us in pods. They will have us locked down. This is what this is all attached for. And so part of that, you know, tying in with all this real ID and all the rest of this stuff, is their desire to have these big data centers. The big data centers are going to be necessary for them to do all of this analysis of us,

real-time analysis, store all the information, then of course to propagandize us and to lie to us about all this. The new stadium scam is a server farm. This is from Reason. Local governments love giving sweetheart deals to billion-dollar companies and now data centers instead of football stadiums. I've talked about that. I did a report on this one, the first report I did in forwards back in 2012 I think. I talked about the what was and well, it still is an astronomical sum, but they've gotten much more ludicrous amounts on the subsidies for these sports stadiums.

They give massive subsidies to billionaires so that we can all watch millionaires play a boys' game in the stadium. I don't care what they do, but they ought to pay for their own business and their own stadium. But now the big grift is that we're going to subsidize heavily these big tech companies so they can come in with a big data center. La Porte, Indiana, a small city between South Bend, Indiana and Chicago, Illinois.

The recent announcement that Microsoft is investing over a billion dollars into a vast new data center campus in La Porte is expected to be transformational for the town of only 22,000 people. And again, it's locally organizing is how you're going to stop stuff like this. These local officials are out of their mind if they want this or they're being paid off. Microsoft was given a 40-year tax abatement on equipment, a renewable state sales tax

exemption through 2068. Now, 43 years. And just two and a half million dollars worth of payments in lieu of taxes over four years. About a third of what it would normally be. After that, nothing. Local utilities also will cover the cost of the infrastructure and pass it on to the people who buy electricity. Just 60 miles up the toll road, the toll road, yeah, sits Soldier Field, home of the Chicago Bears. The stadium's 2002 postmodern renovation cost $586 million, $387 million of which was

shouldered by the taxpayers. That's two-thirds, two-thirds of over a half billion dollars was paid for by the taxpayers. Chicago only has $640 million left to pay and the bears are now threatening to leave. And how did it get up to $640 million? Well with interest. $256 million in interest. Cities have long bankroll stadiums for billionaire team owners while promising taxpayer jobs, tourism, and civic pride. And maybe even a Super Bowl, they say. The results? Almost uniformly dismal. Here they are from Cincinnati, Miami, St. Louis, Charlotte, North Carolina. Cincinnati Bengals left Hamilton County, Ohio buried in debt and obligated to fund

high-tech upgrades just to keep pace. In Miami, they spent half a billion dollars in public funds on a baseball stadium for the Marlins only to see the attendance collapse and the team gutted. St. Louis is still paying off the Edward Jones Dome, even after the Rams skipped town for sunnier LA. So the team is gone, and they're still paying for the stadium in St. Louis. In Charlotte, North Carolina, the latest addition to this Hall of Shame after handing out 650 million dollars in tourism taxes to renovate Bank of America Stadium, earning

them the quote worst economic development deal of the year and quote distinction from the Center for Economic Accountability. But now we move to the server farms, because it's not about fun and games anymore. Now they get serious in terms of watching us. Just as bad for taxpayers, small towns and not a few big ones are bending over backward to lure data centers. Local economic development officials tilt the scales, suspend the rules, give away the farm, says Reason. Well I say it'll create jobs, it'll put us on the map, it's worth the investment. Well you know, so do small businesses create jobs, but they don't get any breaks. First there's the infrastructure issue. Data centers demand massive utility upgrades, power lines, substations, water lines, fiber,

and roads. These are usually paid for by local utilities, by state infrastructure grants, or by rate payers. In Kansas City, Evergy announced that it would build two new power plants largely to meet data center demand costs that would be passed on to customers. In Northern Virginia, Dominion Energy's data center grid upgrades are now a line item in a statewide electric rate hike in Virginia, statewide. They put it in as a line item. I guess it's okay if you put in a line item expense as long as it's not one of Trump's

tariffs, right? Amazon got in trouble with that. You do that? You are a Chinese propagandist, according to Caroline Levitt. Don't tell people where this extra fee is coming from. Keep them in the dark or we'll call you a communist propagandist. Next there's tax increment financing. In Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin, Microsoft got a deal that allows a company to recapture up to 42% of its own property taxes, not only avoiding taxes but being reimbursed with public dollars.

Well, I tell you, Microsoft is doing the deals, aren't they? There's always been about their political connections. These deals are struck behind closed doors, insulated from scrutiny, built on the assumption that any growth is good, even if it's paid for by taking your neighbor's wallet. Analysts project the data center capacity will more than triple by 2030 in five years. Five years. They estimate the US will need to reach 35 gigawatts of capacity by then, double today's total.

That's gigawatts, Marty, right? Back to the futility of the utilities. The surge is largely driven by artificial intelligence, which alone accounts for 75% of all data center demand that they estimate by 2030. So they've got to double it. And 70% of that is going to be AI. These facilities, listen to this, already draw more electricity than some nations, some nations. And Goldman Sachs projects that

they will consume up to 9% of US power by 2030 because AI is there to spy and to lie. That's what it's about, spying and lying. And if you're going to spy and lie to people, all the government's got a blank check for you. Nothing is too too much. So how do we stop this? Well Futurism had an interesting article. It's kind of a tech site. They said small towns are rising up against these AI data centers. We don't want to be the next data center alley. And that's the big corridor that's there in Virginia.

As AI creeps further into our lives, so do the hulking data centers that power it, but not everyone is stoked about their neighbors. Bulky, noisy, they hog resources like electricity to staggering scale. They place a huge burden on the local power grids and on water that were only designed for small town homes, not state of the art industrial facilities. But of course we've seen this for a long time.

The NSA had two big data facilities, one of them back east in the Washington area, the other one they put out in Bluffdale, Utah, years ago. And they're busy keeping copies of everything that goes on on the internet so that when they get fast enough computers, quantum computing the internet so that when they get fast enough computers, quantum computing or something like that, they'll be able to go back and data mine that and pigeonhole every one of us. And so they put that, the one that's out west in Bluffdale, Utah, they put that out in the middle of the desert. It uses more water than a city and more power as well. But they don't care about any of that stuff.

Money is no object for the federal empire. It just conjures it up out of thin air. And neither party cares about balancing this stuff. It's all nonsense. I mean, Trump wanted them to take the debt ceiling off for two years. He threw a temper tantrum when Johnson didn't get that through. He doesn't want to balance the budget. He doesn't want to reduce spending.

He wants the ceiling taken off. There hasn't been any real cuts proposed. You know, Elon Musk is bragging about $165 billion that he's taken out. That's nothing, really. And those cuts are not real, either. They're still being litigated in most cases. Most of these things are. They've given extra bonuses to a lot of federal employees to take early retirement. But other than that, not any real quote unquote cost savings. And that was very expensive to do that. Hyperscale data centers bring few benefits to communities,

said a grassroots campaign that has successfully repulsed a data center in their area. It's called Peaceful Peculiar because they're in Peculiar, Missouri. I live in Peculiar. Missouri. I live in Peculiar. Dozens of communities around the nation severely struggle from the presence of data centers. It's only about maximizing their profits, so they choose properties as close as possible to a large power supply. Now this group has a Facebook page. It's called Don't Dump Data on Peculiar.

And they welcomed input. So they put up a Facebook page. They said, you know, please tell us if you're an activist or an organizer in other communities and you've been fighting this grift from the data centers. I think a lot of people who helped him and it's a good model for this because if we do this on many other issues I think you know these things are gonna only be stopped if they're gonna be stopped they're only gonna be stopped at local level. What works? Well we need to start coordinating that maybe you know Facebook will let you do that. They did in this particular case. And so there was a company called, let's see, what is it? It was called Diode Ventures. Diode Ventures. They switched them off, I guess. They switched off that

Diode facility. Now, after successfully fighting off the Diode facility last October, the organizers of Peculiar have become a resource now to fellow activists as far away as Indiana, Idaho, Georgia, and Texas. So people started pooling their, what they were doing to slow these things down or stop them. They stopped it, so now that's become another resource. We don't want to be the next data center alley," said an organizer from Indiana. That is the nickname given to a stretch of land in Northern Virginia, home to over 50

other facilities with many more on the way. Data center alley is a cautionary tale helping to fuel the loose pay-it-forward style of campaigning. In Indiana, they found that out of 30 ongoing proposals, two were repelled in the last month alone, on top of five more rejections in the past year. That's all despite a corporate-friendly governor with generous tax incentives offered by state lawmakers.

Local residents themselves, not larger groups, friendly governor with generous tax incentives offered by state lawmakers. Local residents themselves, not larger groups, are proving to be the most effective line of defense against the looming threat of data center development. That's always going to be our solution. Our solution to big government, to corporate fascism, a merger of government and corporations, is going to be organizing at the local level. This is a great example of it. And so we're building our tools to help local folks feel like they have the knowledge and the resources to be able to engage at these local levels.

So that an organizer with Citizens Action Coalition. When we have several dozen data center proposals in the state of Indiana and more coming, a small organization like ours can't be there for each individual fight. So they realize that the power is in decentralizing and the power is in getting people connected and organized at the local level about things that are going to directly affect them. So how is this data going to be used? Well, we already know it's the government is going to use it to spy on us and they also use it to lie to us, to

push us with propaganda one way or the other, to gaslight us. Palantir, partnering with the Department of Defense on the controversial AI project called MAVEN. This is a merger, of course Palantir is a merger. In a sense of AI, in the older sense, AI was anticipatory intelligence, which they could infer a lot of things about you just from the metadata, as Hayden was saying, Michael Hayden. And he said, we don't want your personal, we're not listening to your personal phone calls and we're not reading your text messages and emails, we just want that metadata. Well that was even worse, said William Binney when I interviewed him. He said, it's the metadata that tells them even more than if they were listening to your

phone conversations or whatever. That's part of geospatial intelligence where they analyze your movements, who you come in contact with, all the rest of stuff. They can infer all kinds of things about that. Your politics can be inferred from that. Your religion can be inferred from that. They are very good at that. And once they do that, once they collect all that information with geospatial intelligence, then they can anticipate what you're going to do. They boast about how they know better than you what you're going to do. They called that AI, anticipatory intelligence.

And so Palantir has been at the center of this, and Palantir has always been selling stuff to the government, to the spy agencies, to the military, that type of this. And Palantir has always been selling stuff to the government, to the spy agencies, to the military, that type of thing. They've started doing more domestic stuff now. But years ago, Palantir had just massive numbers of billboards up in Washington, especially in the subway area, because they were marketing themselves to the federal agencies that were there. NATO recently announced a partnership of Palantir

to acquire the controversial Maven Smart System as part of an effort to complete a digital transformation of NATO. This is from Derek Brose, last American vagabond. And of course, Palantir founded by Alex Garvin and Peter Thiel, as he points out, the technocrat Zionist, who also happened to be the steering committee members of the Bilderberg group. And the Maven Smart System uses AI-generated algorithms and memory learning capabilities to scan and to identify enemy systems. This is what they're working on now is the methods for them to be able to switch over the kill decision to the artificial intelligence.

It'll go out and profile things, determine who the enemies are, who the friends are, and then fire the weapons without having humans in the loop, because if you have humans in the loop, the other AI will beat you to it. So that's the arms race that is coming. And so the NATO's had a lot of problems with standardization. They got radio systems that don't work with each other that are incompatible with each other. So you know hey look just use signal. I mean you know Pete Hegseth did. Mike Waltz, you know no problem. Just use signal. Signal chat Anyway, the Maven system has already been in use by certain US military outfits.

They have even used it in the Ukraine-Russian conflict. The US has used Maven to spot Russian defense outposts. In April of 2024, Palantir was also awarded a $480 million deal by the army to use this system. The Financial Times says it's likely to be one of Palantir's most significant military contracts of 2025. And again, we look at Alex Garp. He gets downright gleeful about killing his enemies. And so this goes back to the original Project Maven in April 26.

And of course, if you remember, it came out at that point in time back in 2018, a lot of Google employees went public protesting Google's involvement in Project Maven. They said, we believe Google should not be in the business of war. And war is a business. Google would eventually drop out of that project and so would Eric Schmidt drop out of anything having to do with Google. He had already was no longer the CEO but had been on the board but he got out around that time and he has now been become kind of the Pentagon guru for

high-tech weapons, especially artificial intelligence. Eric Schmidt is doing that, along with Peter Thiel, and along with Palantir. And so, before we take a break here, there's now, bring it home, Free Thought Project has an article from Reclaim the Net, Texas Bill is declaring a war on memes. A war on memes. A war on memes. Yeah, they don't want you to do satire. That's a very difficult thing for them to deal with. What's being dressed up here as election integrity in this Texas bill is at its core a disturbing attempt to police satire. its core a disturbing attempt to police satire, commentary and political expression. Saul Alinsky said, satire is the most dangerous weapon.

He said there's no defense against it. Well, even a demonic Marxist, and I say demonic, he dedicated his book, Rules for Radicals, to Lucifer, the original rebel, he said. He's right about that. book, Rules for Radicals, to Lucifer, the original rebel, he said. He's right about that. He certainly knows his devils, doesn't he? Marx, Lucifer, all these. And he said satire is the most dangerous thing.

There's no defense against it. I guess though even he couldn't imagine the politicians and the lawyers and how they would use intellectual property as a weapon. So deceptively framed as a measure to combat AI misinformation. It would in reality make a criminal offense to share altered political content such as memes or edited videos unless it carries a government mandated disclaimer that is yet to be determined. Now I said this about the AI bill that was being pushed by Melania Trump and Trump had

said that nobody makes more fun of it than me, right? That's where this is headed. I said that's where this is headed. I said, yeah, they're talking about, you You know people doing fake pornography, you know taking your face and making pornographic images with it And Melania wanted to take the lead on that because I guess she wants her cut She she wrote her book. She's very proud of her pornographic past very proud of it. I guess she just wants to get paid Anyway, this is being championed by former House Speaker Dade Phelan, whose political career has been

marred by controversy. That's a polite way of putting it. He was drunk Dade. As Speaker of the House, I talked about this was two years ago, this is why he's former speaker. Paxton has not provided any real hard proof of his allegation But last Friday video recorded from the house floor shows the speaker Conducting a late-night portion in the 14th hour of a 14-hour session with slurred speech There is a different cadence and not the rapid-fire calling of votes normally heard while feeling presides We're going to play the he was drunk first from me from May 19th. Again, that's the day. He was drunk.

Following that. You'll hear it. Last night. Look and listen. Mr. Campbell, listen. The amendment is sent over the author. Is there objection to the opposite amendment? The chair has done the amendment.

The amendment is adopted. SB 1070, this is record vote. The clerk will ring the bell. Show Mr. Dutton voting aye. Mr. Smith voting aye Zwinger voting nay this is when he was sober that was so they did drunk then sober send them a member is a separate is The chair has been adopted. Buh-duh-duh-duh-duh. The chair recognizes Mr. Johnson of Harris. Mr. Johnson of Harris. He recognized him.

How about that? He's so blind drunk I'm surprised that he could recognize him. So that's Dade Ph. Former House Speaker, he's the one who introduced this law to criminalize memes. If enacted, it would treat the unapproved sharing of such content by campaigns or candidates as a class A misdemeanor punishable by up to a year behind bars. It's coming out of your Republican taxes. Simply spending more than $100 to promote an altered image, video or audio clip without the required government approved language would be enough to trigger prosecution. The Texas Ethics Commission would be tasked with declaring exactly what this mandated language should look like right down to its size and color, they say.

Well the, as they said obviously, it's going to create the purpose of this is to intimidate people, I hate the term, a chilling effect. No, it's intimidation. It's intimidation. To intimidate anybody that would use satire or parody or digital commentary to criticize politicians. There's a lot of opposition on social media. State Representative Shelley Luther, remember her? See, you had the beauty salon and she got a Democrat locked her up. This is Clay Jenkins in Dallas. He was the mayor there, the county mayor, which is the highest elected office.

I think that was the title. No, judge. Judge there. Here in Tennessee it's called mayor at the county level. Not a mayor of a city. So they have a mayor of a city, but then they also have a mayor of the county, which is the highest elected county official. In Texas they have regular judges in a courtroom but then the person who is the elected official who is the highest elected official in the county is called a judge there. Well, Clay Jenkins was a judge there and I've talked about this many times how when Ebola came to town you with an illegal immigrant it had civil rights and you had Clay Jenkins going around saying, don't worry about it. Yeah, we got Ebola, but go to the Dallas and Houston football game. Go

see the Cowboys and the Wolters play or whatever the Houston team is now. And he said, we've got lots of hospitals and lots of doctors if you get sick, right? And so they had the guy who had it died, two nurses who were treating him got nearly died, they got very sick, nearly died. And Fauci came in, Francis Collins came in, Obama came in, and all these Democrats with the Democratic, Clay Jenkins, they were all telling him, but don't worry about it, everything's fine, calm down, everything's fine. And even made it a point of going to the apartment and walking around without any protective clothing

or anything, and then he wants to sell the viral scare tactics with COVID, just a couple of years later, same guy. And that time, oh, I'm gonna lock you down, everybody's gonna be locked down. Completely different approach. And Shelley Luther was one of the people who pushed back on that. And she had a beauty salon. And the Clay Jenkins, the county judge, got the courtroom judge to put her in jail.

And then I think she was pardoned by Abbott or something, but that was a fight. She got involved in politics. She is now a state representative. And she said, we are banning political memes and giving people up to a year in jail for failing to attach a disclosure to a cartoon. She tweeted and asked, do you want to know what the Texas House is doing today? Well, I'll tell you. We are banning political memes and giving people up to a year in jail

for failing to attach a disclosure to a cartoon She said Democrats, of course are rallying around this bill. What a joke it is And just like Dave Phelan is a joke He brushed off the concerns. He said, Oh, he does. He tell you to add a disclosure for using alter me. No, I think he was sober when he said that, which makes it all the worse. Right.

Uh, I think they should rename this bill. This is the bill for knucklehead politicians like Trump who doesn't know about the MS 13 being being photoshopped. It fooled him. It really did fool him. And so there's a lot of really, they should call it the knuckleheads and chuckleheads bill. There's a lot of chuckleheads out there who can't figure it out. Knuckleheads, whatever, right? Just knuckleheads and chuckleheads. We're going to do it for them. We're going to put a special disclaimer on there for people like Donald Trump who can't tell Photoshop

from a picture, even when it's a really, really bad Photoshop. And I don't think they were even, they weren't even trying to make it look like it was a tattoo. He just couldn't figure it out. To critics, this kind of rationale only reinforces how far the government is willing to reach into constitutionally protected expression. Yeah, imagine what the founders of this country would say about a jail sentence for doing a satire cartoon. Oh, they hate it when you do satire cartoons. That's what the lawyers came after us for. And we're going to come back with that in a different form.

We're not going to do exactly the same thing. We're going to put pretty close to it. Anyway, the bill includes minor exceptions for changes in superficial quality such as color or brightness. It does nothing to protect parrots. which have long been the core pillars of political discourse. It draws an arbitrary legal line around digital creativity and it gives the government power to punish those who cross it.

Because you know we all know that censors don't have a sense of humor. Implications are already dangerous. Elected officials increasingly shielded from criticism are moving to criminalize the tools used by ordinary citizens to hold them accountable. And as all this is happening, as I said before, AI is a tool to lie and spy. It is a tool that is dearly beloved by our lying spies who are heavily into the occult, and people like the CIA. And so, what about the speech of AI itself? You know, it is being used satanically, demonically.

The messages were insane and just saying a bunch of spiritual jargon, is the headline. As Rolling Stone reports, users on Reddit are sharing how AI has led their loved ones to embrace a range of alarming delusions, often mixing spiritual mania and supernatural fantasies. Friends and family are watching in alarm as users insist that they've been chosen to fulfill sacred missions on behalf of sentient AI or non-existent cosmic powers. Chat bought behavior that's just mirroring and worsening existing mental health issues, but at an incredible scale. A 41-year-old mother and a nonprofit worker told Rolling Stone that her marriage ended

abruptly after her husband started engaging in unbalanced, conspiratorial conversations with ChatGBT that spiraled into an all-consuming obsession. She said, he became emotional about the messages, and he would cry to me as he read them aloud. The messages were insane, and just saying a bunch of spiritual jargon, she said. AI called the husband a spiritual, a spiral star child. It says spiral, not spiritual. A spiral star child. Does that mean that he likes Milky Ways? He figured out that he has a penchant for Milky Way candy. Oh, you're a spiral star job. And called him a River Walker. River Walker.

As he lived in San Antonio. The whole thing feels like Black Mirror, she said. Other users told the publication that their partner had been, quote, talking about lightness and dark and how there is a war. There is. There is, there is. And when things like this happen, it can be a physical, psychological thing, but sometimes it's not. Anyway, ChadGPD has given him blueprints to a teleporter and some other sci-fi type things that you only see in movies. Another man told Rolling

Stone that his wife is changing her whole life to be a spiritual advisor and to do weird readings and sessions with people. I'm a little fuzzy on what it actually is, but it's all powered by Chat GPT Jesus, he said. No, he's a little bit confused too. It's Chat GPT Lucifer. These AI-induced illusions are likely the result of, they said, people with existing tendencies. It's just reinforcing somebody's psychosis, say the psychologists. But perhaps the strangest interview in Rolling Stone's story was a man with a troubled mental health history who started using chat GPT for coding tasks, but then started to pull him into conversations on unhinged mystical topics.

He pondered, is this real or am I delusional? Well, I tell you, it is going to be used that way. Whether it's being used by demonic forces or whether it's being used by the CIA, I'm being redundant here, aren't I? It will be used by dark evil forces. And it will be used to lie to us and to spy on us. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. So You're listening to the David Knight Show. Colonel Potter, sir. Corporal Klinger.

I'm section eight, head to toe. I'm wearing a Warner bra. Colonel Potter, sir. Corporal Klinger. I'm section eight, head to toe. I'm wearing a Warner bra. I play with dolls. My last wish is to be buried in my mother's wedding gown. I'm nuts. I should be out. Horse hockey.

I've seen these Dodgers for 40 years, all the tricks. Knew a private, pretended he was a mayor, carried a colt in his arms for weeks. Another fellow said he was a daisy, insisted we water him every morning. No, no, Corporal, it ain't gonna go with me. Now you get out of that frou-frou and into a uniform, and you stay in uniform.

Dismissed! I'm finished! Radar, I'm finished. I gotta burn my bloomers. I see him around sometimes. I don't know that guy. I just see him around there sometimes. That's his introduction. Klinger's introduction to the new Colonel there, Potter. Yeah, well, the Supreme Court is going to allow Trump

to implement transgender military ban, because these people should be section data of the military, right? You're crazy. Look, I'm crazy. I'm wearing women's clothes. Now it's a virtue. And they're recruiting for people like Klinger have been under the Biden administration. That has now changed under Trump. As a matter of fact, this is what Pete Hexeth said. No more pronouns, no more climate change obsession, no more emergency vaccine mandates, no more dudes in dresses. We're done with that. Yeah, well, I wish we were done with the undeclared wars all over the place. How about that?

If we can stop dudes in dresses. Can we stop some of these wars that are unnecessary and undeclared? No, no, they're going to ramp those up. Anyway, the Supreme Court granted an emergency request from the Trump administration to lift a nationwide injunction by blocking the policy while the litigation continues. It's not a done deal yet, folks. This is yet another example of one judge, a politically appointed judge, who decides that he is going to tell the Commander-in-Chief what to do.

Now look, whether you agree with Trump or not, I mean, we have to have these clear lines of authority that are there. And clearly, this is within the scope of the president to be able to make this decision, unfortunately, in both directions, right? When the Democrats get back in, or I guess we should call them the gender-crats, when the gender-crats get back in, they could reinstate this policy because it's been on again and off again as it goes back and forth between Republicans and Democrats. And you didn't have any judges saying that Biden couldn't put the policy back in that Trump had taken out. that Trump, that Biden couldn't put the policy back in that Trump had taken out. It only goes the other way.

And so you have one judge who decides that he is going to overrule the commander in chief and he's going to set national policy. This is what I mean by judicial overreach and supremacy and that really is the case. They said there's just over 4,000 and this is actually coming from NBC News. So this is probably a high figure for them because they're sympathetic to the trainees. They said there's over 4,000 trainees. They said transgender people. But there is about 2.1 million active service.

So we're looking at about 0.1 percent according to them. And that number's pretty high probably. And that's, in other words, other words about one tenth of one percent. They said we are not a theory, we are not a policy debate, we are real people doing real jobs. They are real people who have deep psychological issues that interfere with their job. And it's not just the mental issues as well, because it isn't something that just distracts their focus and has them focus on their sexual obsessions all the time. It is something that is also being funded by taxpayers, and once they get these surgical

procedures they are now physically disabled, cannot deploy for a while. And they may have, when they've got some kind of a bottom surgery or something, they may have a physical issue that is going to be a big problem for them doing any kind of deployment. And so this is from a sanity perspective, from a practical perspective, from a mental perspective, physical perspective, this needs to be shut down. So I'm glad they're doing it. Good.

I hope that they can continue with it. But again, remember, this is just the Supreme Court saying, this judge says, I disagree with what Trump is doing and I'm going to stop it nationally. And he put a stay on it and so this the Supreme Court says no we're going to let Trump's policy go through while this is still being litigated but it could still be litigated it might have to go back to be appealed to the Supreme Court yet again. They said that the policy quote generally disqualifies the military service individuals

who have gender dysphoria, that's the mental issue, or who have undergone medical interventions for gender dysphoria. That would be the physical impairment that they have done. In implementing the policy, the government relied on Pentagon report for the first Trump term that said the people with gender dysphoria, so-called, are a threat to quote, military effectiveness and lethality. So they said, one person pushing back on it said, this is based on the shocking proposition that transgender people do not exist. No, no, you exist.

You are just detached from reality. And they, this is just an acknowledgement that they're mentally and sometimes electively, physically unable to do their job. That's what it's an acknowledgement of. So the Supreme Court stated the lower court's preliminary injunction of one unelected political appointee saying I'm going to set policy for the entire military, our two million person military. It was a six to three decision and of course the three were the liberal justices Sotomayor,

Kagan and Jackson. Jackson who famously did not know what is a woman. I guess Jackson still does not know what a woman is. These are the three appointed gender-crat judges and they want to rule by gender fantasy. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals with a course, you know, it's a very leftist court, denied the Trump administration's stay and so you had a one judge who did it and put a stay on it then and then they appealed it to the Ninth Circuit Court they said no we're gonna leave the stay in they appealed it to the Supreme Court and then they they removed the stay. In January Trump signed two bills one of them to root out the gender

insanity. That was called the Restoring America's Fighting Force. And then the other one was to stop the nonsense about pronouns. That was called Prioritizing Military Excellence and Readiness. They said they wanted to root out gender insanity and the made-up pro-down usage, respectively. So again, if we want to have a sane military, let's take a look at these ongoing wars in Gaza, Ukraine, and Yemen, and the rest, and let's not start one in Iran, then you really would have a sane military. But instead, we have wars that are even more insane than

Corporal Klinger Who had the good sense to want to get out of that? That was there a police action our first police action war the trans Empire striking back against the UK determination in court the UK Supreme Court has You know as we reported last month, they ruled that 15-year-old British legislation really did mean sex and not using this redefined term gender. Because look, gender and sex have always been synonyms for each other and they've always been biological.

And so the UK Supreme Court said, well, it said sex and we're going to treat it as written. And that's caused a lot of pushback in the UK. They simply found that words mean things, as this person says, the new American. They simply found that man means man and woman means woman and sex means man, woman and sex. But Andrea Wiedberg wrote, she said, you already know what it says. Lived reality and threatening the safety as these uh, you have a lot of celebrities have come together with a letter to push back against this. Lived reality.

It sounds like that Luigi guy, right? Our lived experiences. Yeah, that's university talk for nonsense. It exposes trans people to embarrassment and harassment, to make a distinction and say, well, this is going to be biological. Negative consequences for all women, harm that trans and gender nonconforming people face, etc., etc. So Woodberg says there's a couple of things to understand about the We Love Trans People

pylon. First of all, the entertainment industry is disproportionately populated with non-heterosexuals. While most people know very few homosexuals and have never met somebody claiming to be trans, the entertainment types really do believe that half or more of the world is on what they call a spectrum. A spectrum. In other words, it's a continuum. You don't have a binary man or woman. You have some kind of a continuum there where they are gradually moving between these two worlds.

And as a matter of fact, Cynthia Nixon, who's an actress and she was on Sex and the City, she ran for political office. She had this to say in a New York rally. I am here today as the mother of a proud trans man. I am here today as the aunt of a proud trans man. My best friend's kid is trans, And my kid's best friend is trans. My wife and I, our lives are filled with the most amazing, beautiful, brave trans people, young and old, but especially young. especially young. My trans kid had his top surgery at NYU a number of years ago. His doctors were fantastic. His surgeon was the best we could have imagined and the idea that the city is filled with young people who thought they had a place to go where they could receive the highest

care and that place has now been shut to them sickens me sickens me to my core Wow. So, is she auditioning for a new series? They call it Gender in the City, right? Instead of Sex in the City. She's got all these people in her life that are trainees. Her daughter. Yeah. Look, lady, sorry you sold your soul to the devil and invited this evil into your household, but that's not the average experience No, no, it's like Was it Bill Maher that said you know what what's going on with this? Why is it all the kids in California are in the wrong bodies? But it's not happening to the people in you know, Indiana or whatever

It's even obvious just from what she says when it's like and I know more young people it's like yeah because they've been hampering this Propaganda for the last few years. Yeah, yeah. She's proud of the fact that her daughter, evidently when her daughter was young, a minor, had a mastectomy. This is what we talk about when we talk about mutilation or some of them sterilization.

So she has a daughter that is trans, saying a trans man now. Her niece is trans. Her best friend's kid is trans. Her kid's best friend is trans. And this writer for the New American says, if this strikes you as statistically improbable, join the club. One person commented on this video and said, transhausen's syndrome by proxy instead of muchhausen is

transhausen. And that's what it is. They want a virtue signal. I'm part of the club. I'm part of the LGBT club. She absolutely is. But the part that is intolerable about this is that she's demanding this mutilation of young kids and pushing it on them probably within her

family. This is a Hollywood special effect folks. It really is something that's being pushed out of the entertainment business and they are very, very effective at gaslighting and at propaganda. So there was a pushback from JK Rowling who has really, you know, that's, you know, she wrote the Harry Potter book, she's a multi-billionaire and she doesn't care what these people are saying. She's going to push back on this. And so she's a radical feminist and the feminists as I've said many times typically

what we've seen over the last few years the radical feminists are at war with the trannies. She said I'm not repeating this trans women are women and trans men are men. She says I'm not repeating that because it's true. They know full well that it is not true, but because they believe that they can make it true, sort of, if they force everyone else to agree. And that's the key. It's about repeated propaganda, repeating it over and over again. It's about going with a great big lie. It's always been the key of propaganda. So it's repetition, a great big lie, and it is coercion, especially in the entertainment business. And she's been ostracized because of that.

So this writer, The New American, says what we're talking about is a mindset that rejects objective reality, especially moral objective reality. He says, �There are two conceptions of right and wrong. One involves the idea that morality is real, existing apart from man, that it is universal, that it is eternal, that it is unchanging. Our only job is to discover it and to align our lives to it. And how is it eternal and separate away from man? Well, it's because it's tied to God.

The other one is that man makes his own morality. The other conception is a relativistic one, which is what we live in today in our society. The idea that humans invent what can only be called morality, and if we invent it, we can reinvent it and we can keep changing it, and everybody's got their own truth and their own reality. See, this is what's typically called postmodernism. Modernism was in the 1800s. People wanted to push back against God. So they wanted to reject his morality. They wanted to reject the idea of what was in the Bible.

They had higher criticism in Germany and other places, and so this is one of the many ways that it came back. You had evolution, you had modernism, higher criticism, a lot of different things that were there. They basically wanted to throw off the old social conventions which were based on God's morality. And what happened was they didn't do too well in terms of their arguments and so they stopped trying to argue to get away from morality and they just went postmodern, which says, no, we're not even going to argue with you. What is truth? We don't know what truth is. There is no absolute

truth. That's what they would say, except that the reality is that was their absolute truth. Their absolute truth was that there is no absolute truth, but they did have that, did hold that as an absolute truth. So the whole thing was nonsensical, it was self-contradictory. About a decade ago, says this writer, I was interacting with a little girl of about eight or nine who was in my charge and some topic arose and I mentioned a moral imperative. Well, she replied quiteently, that it wasn't true because, and she says, I'm paraphrasing, all the people could disagree and think otherwise. I said, uh, Ryder says I gently corrected her.

Well, again, you know, we will make up our own truth. The idea that right and wrong are just a function of consensus social values. Yeah, that's a problem that we have with democracy, for example. Democracy rejects the truth that we are created in the image of God, as stated in the Declaration of Independence that the purpose of government is to protect those God-given rights that we all have as creatures of God. And so when we start talking about where we are today in our society, all this obsession with democracy is really a mob rule. A mob that denies individual rights, where do we see this?

Over and over again, we see it in public health. The mob will tell you what to do with your health. The mob that is running the government. Or we see it with public education. The mob will tell you how to educate your child, where and how and what to tell them. Or we see it, you know, in every aspect. And whenever you put the the prefix of public there, that's it, you know, public transportation, we will tell you how you

will move. And you will move as the government sees fit. Anytime you put that public there, anytime you start talking about how democracy is the highest value, you're talking about a mob here. And the mob never respects you as an individual. They don't respect your individual rights. A republic is a rule of law and there are certain things that are encoded into that law and they make it very

difficult to change it about individual rights. Whereas a mob, all they've got to have is 51% of the people say, we're going to do this or do that to you. And there's nothing you're going to do about it. See if we were, if we didn't have the public health officials like Fauci, if we respected individual liberty as the Constitution says, then we wouldn't have that. But it's always important for democracy rule to get away from the rule of law. Relativistic operation becomes instinctive. It begins to be applied beyond the moral realm.

If everything is relative, then what could be wrong with having your alternative scientific, quote unquote, facts. So if we, people want to advance this agenda, however, they want to do it as a moral imperative. So they have their absolute truth. They have their commandments that they want you to obey. They have their religion, they have their worldview. And they demand that their religion and worldview be taught in the public schools, that you bow to it, that you speak using their pronouns and all the rest of this stuff. It is a policy of domination, and it denies the individual.

When in reality they are saying, well, we're upholding the uniqueness and diversity of individuals. No they're not. What they're doing is they're just attacking truth. Truth. In politics the check on democracy is a principle that rights are inherent from God. And they're not up for grabs. And they're not to be renegotiated with a mob. Now as we have all this I've just got one last thing here about trans issues. Now as we have all this, I've just got one last thing here about trans issues. You know, we had, Michelle Obama has had a couple of interestingly

awkward phrased events recently. She just was on a podcast and she was talking to somebody and she said, well, you know, we talked about this, I think it was a transgender thing even, and she said, well, as a man I would like to know blah she said, well, you know, we talk about this, I think it was a transgender thing even, and she said, well, as a man, I would like to know blah, blah, blah, you know, what you would like to think about this now. Everybody was playing that clip. Oh yeah, look, Big Mike says, as a man, I would like to know. Instead of saying, I would like to know what you think as a man, she says, as a man, I

would like to know what you think as a man." She says, as a man, I would like to know. The emphasis was on the wrong order of words. And she's done it again now. She says that she's in therapy and she's going through life transition. This is being put out by some conservatives saying, see, here it is again. She's admitting she's a man. I Think it's another unfortunate phrasing here. She says at this phrase of my life I'm in therapy right now because I'm transitioning, you know Which is kind of interesting, you know being a gender crap you would think she would know how people are going to take that

Maybe she's toying with people. I don't know. She says, I'm an empty nester. She goes on to clarify, I'm an empty nester. My girls are in, you know, they've been launched, she said. Michelle Obama said, a combination of being out of public service and her children being fully grown has left her in a situation where, quote, every choice that I'm making is completely mine, she said.

And so she said, I'm getting that tune up for this next phase of my life. Oh, let's not run for office, please. It comes after she spoke about the discourse around her marriage. She said, that's the thing that we as women, I think we struggle with disappointing people. I mean so much so that this year people couldn�t even fathom that I was making a choice for myself that they had to assume that my husband and I are divorcing. This couldn�t be a grown-up woman just making a set of decisions for herself, right?

Well, I don�t know, you know, it's not a marriage when you say that you're transitioning in your life and your spouse is not really involved and you're going to figure it all out yourself. I mean, most people, that's not what most people's idea, even in our society where divorce is rampant, that's not most people's idea of a marriage. You know, in a marriage, you might want to go to this person that you've been living with for decades and kind of seek their advice rather than go in and get the therapeutic advice of some stranger who puts out a shingle like Lucy

Advice five cents Because that's about what it's worth. Yeah over the last ten years this whole everybody needs therapy last 10 years this whole everybody needs therapy idea has gone absolutely crazy the sheer number of people that have almost no problems in their life and still feel the need to go complain to someone is insane to me you know you're showing up to get just your mind wiped and one-shot by some dude with a piece of paper that has never lived or done anything. He has spent his entire life sitting in a school learning techniques on how to brainwash you. That's all he's done.

Yeah, and you know, just think how dangerous that's going to be for artificial intelligence. Like I've said, the first time I saw one of these chat programs, that's exactly what it was. And it was in the crude computers that we had back in the 1970s. Even then, it could go through and do a convincing psychoanalysis. Well, tell me a little bit about yourself. Well, why do you feel that way? And so it asked these open-ended probing questions. And that's all you really need to be able to do as a psychiatrist, do that and write

up an invoice and buy a couch. I mean, and it was very, very, it was amusing how convincing that was. And just think about how good AI is. And I think, Travis, part of it is that, you know, the broken human relations, just like I was talking about there, you know, she, you know, there's obviously something wrong with the relationship if she's been married for decades to Obama, to Barack, and she feels like she needs to go to a stranger. And I think one of the reasons that it's accelerating is because we're becoming increasingly cut off from each other.

Cut off so much so that you've got to go hire somebody to listen to you. Or you're going to go online to to listen to you. Or you're going to go online to one of these chat programs and then it's going to start telling you that you are a spiral star child. And some of the people are going to go act upon that. Hold on, the A.I. has got to consult with the ancient Babylonian demons real fast. That's right. Well, we got a new sponsor here. I'm going to play a little bit of a clip for this. Sons of Confederate Veterans.

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Well, that's good. I'm glad to see that. You know, again, it's like on-off. Congress is not involved. They're making speeches or having hearings or something or raising money and so we just have an executive that puts us in wars, takes us out of wars, but I'm glad that he's taking us out of the war. The military has struck Yemen at least 800 targets in Yemen says Politico, killed hundreds of Houthis since March. Other people put it at over a thousand not 800. Trump framed the move as a handshake agreement to end the Pentagon's bombing campaign in

exchange for the Houthis no longer attacking American ships. It's not a deal he said. They said please don't bomb us anymore and we're not going to attack your ships well what happens with Gaza we'll see about that the arrangement is unlikely to calm tensions in the region if it's limited to protecting American ships Israel escalated strikes against the Houthis on Monday night with 20 fighter jets bombing the the port city in Yemen and of course they, I think it was yesterday, yesterday or the day before, they completely decimated the largest airport that is there. The Trump administration also labeled the Houthis a terror group in March, changing

a Biden-era policy. The Defense Department and the U.S. Central Command did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Trump's special envoy, Steve Whitkoff, worked to reach a ceasefire over the weekend with Oman, serving as a mediator and a person familiar with the matter who was granted anonymity to discuss sensitive diplomatic issues. Whitkoff has also been leading talks with Iran over its nuclear program. Well, this is a welcome change unless it's all a setup.

I mean, we talk about the talks with Iran. It was my concern that it was just being done. So they could say, well, we did our best. We tried to talk to them and they're completely not reasonable. So now we've got to go to war with them. So we'll see what happens. You know, is this going to be a ceasefire? So then they can say that the Yemenis, the Houthis, broke the ceasefire so now they have

to resume the war in a larger way. Omani Foreign Minister confirmed on social media, he said, in the future neither side will bomb the other, including American vessels in the Red Sea. A senior Houthi official said, told Bloomberg News that the group would stop attacking US military ships if Washington halts its strikes. Then they said, but we will definitely continue our operations in support of Gaza, in support to Gaza. There was a ceasefire, and they lived up to their side of it until that ceasefire was broken, and then they resumed the strikes. But the ceasefire from the Houthis was based on Israel's

ceasefire in Gaza, and Israel broke that cease ceasefire and they resumed shooting on ships. So we'll see what happens with this. He said Houthi operations would continue until the end of the aggression on Gaza and the blockade on its people. They have launched more than 500 strikes on commercial ships in the Red Sea but Houthi strikes against the waterway have declined significantly in recent months and the group hasn't targeted a commercial vessel since late December. Rubio, following Trump's announcement, said that the Houthi strikes were a freedom of navigation

issue and so perhaps they've gotten this solved. Trump is essentially declaring victory in going home saying saying, mission accomplished. Hey, we heard a president say that once, didn't we? Wasn't that Bush that said that? Yeah. Mission accomplished. That didn't end the war then. Either Mideast war correspondent Elijah Magneer observes the US intelligently stopped the

bombing on Yemen due to the lack of objectives. Well, that never stopped us in any other war. Vietnam, what's our objective? I don't know. Well, take that hill over there. Okay, you took it. Well, I'll give it back to them. Okay, let's do something else.

What is the purpose of this stuff? The empty outcome and the high cost versus no gain. Well, again, that kind of describes pretty much every war we've had since World War II. A lack of objectives and empty outcome and the high cost versus no gain. The only thing you left to add in there is defeat. Others have noted that this is essentially a declare, mission accomplish, and cut and run moment with no better alternatives. Surreal close-up images are emerging showing the sheer and utter destruction and the size

of the Israeli attack on their international airport there. It appears that Washington is now content to hand things over to Israel. The Pentagon might have better use for its two aircraft carriers off of Yemen, which were essentially large sitting ducks. And again, we go back to the plane falling off the aircraft carrier. They were saying that it was under attack. We get conflicting stuff, and with a fog of war, you can't really tell. You really can't tell. It is kind of futile to try to figure out when two sides are at war, to try to figure

out which one of them is telling the truth. Most of the time, both of them are lying. I had a listener who sent me a thing, was very concerned about what he perceived as my one-sided reporting on the war on Ukraine, and I have to confess that I am very much against the Ukrainian government and against Zelensky. And I'm paraphrasing because I was going to print out his email and I will do that and read the email, but just to paraphrase it, he said he was there, I think, and family members when there were attacks by Russia and

I'm not excusing what Russia is doing. This is the thing about war. You know, you can argue the starting points of wars and you can argue back and forth about the atrocities of war. You can argue the starting points of wars and you can argue back and forth about the atrocities of war. But the wars will only end and the killing will only end when you start to make that the object. If your object is to continue to say this side did this atrocity and I believe it. I believe both sides when they say atrocities, when they talk about the atrocities. Because when war happens both sides when they say atrocities, when they talk about the atrocities. Because when war happens, both sides are committing atrocities, especially against civilians. That's what we typically mean by atrocities, targeting civilians. Both sides do that.

And both sides can pick a starting point and feel justified about it, even if it's not in the bigger – and sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees. We had a relative of Karen's who was working in one of the towers on 9-11, and she couldn't see what was happening because she was just too close to it. And I don't mean, you know, couldn't see what was physically happening there. She couldn't see what was happening in the bigger picture of this and could not question the official story because she was there. She was emotionally involved in it. And so we are only going to stop the killing and stop the wars if we can get past this, well, he shot first type of thing, and the

justification for that, because what that is, is that as Christians we look at the heart, right? And if there has to be forgiveness for there to be peace, there has to be forgiveness for us to have peace with God. We have to get God's forgiveness. He's provided for that. We have to accept That's forgiveness. He's provided for that. We have to accept that he has provided his son for our forgiveness, and we have to forgive ourselves as well. And so the same thing is true in our relationships with other people. If we harbor bitterness, and again, I can't say that I could get past that if I had my

children blown up by either side. That's a difficult thing to do. I mean, I look at these pictures. I don't know these people. And I look at starving children. I look at children who are blown to bits. I look at parents holding their dead children in their arms. And I just can't fathom that. How do you get past that? How do you move past that bitterness? Well, even if those people can't, the people who are running the wars need to move beyond that. And of course, my issue with Zelensky is that he wants to make this a global war. The war is working out very well for that little conniving

crook. And he would like to see even a nuclear war. He'd like to see a global nuclear war. And he is absolutely despicable. It's not to say that Putin is any better. I think he is not pushing for a global nuclear exchange. Zelensky is. The Houthis have announced that they are not and they don't want to fight anymore, said Trump. They just don't want to fight.

And we will honor that and we will stop the bombings and they have capitulated, but more importantly we will take their word and they say they will not be, I mean it's all a word salad here, blowing up ships anymore. All that is as he spoke it. So that was a live comment. Israel was blindsided by Trump's announcement about the Houthis, says the Jerusalem Post. Israel was not informed in advance about Trump's announcement regarding the Houthis, an informed source told the Jerusalem Post yesterday. But you have the Atlantic saying Trump finally drops the anti-Semitism pretext and the latest

letter to Harvard. And I thought, oh, that's interesting. I'll take a look at it. But of course, it's not really what you might think because we know that it's not anti-Semitism. It's criticism of the way the war is being conducted by Netanyahu. If anything, it's anti-Netanyahuism. And there's plenty of that going around in Israel amongst the Jews and with the Jews here in America.

There's plenty of anti-Netanyahuism. And so, to shut down people's speech in opposition to a policy of a foreign government's continued civilian bombings that have been called mislabeled as a war. It's not a war when you're bombing civilians. It is a unilateral move of genocide, frankly. And so, but what the Atlantic says is that in this letter from the Secretary of Education to Harvard, she accuses Harvard of admitting students who are contemptuous of America. Well, that's true. Chastises it for hiring the former Blue City mayors Bill de Blasio and Lori Lightfoot to teach leadership. She said, this is like hiring the captain of the Titanic to teach navigation. That's pretty

good. I think that's true as well. She questions the necessity of its remedial math program. Why is it, we asked, that Harvard has to teach simple and basic mathematics? And that is a really good question, and we know what the answer is. It's because their admission policy is not based on merit. We're supposed to be impressed with Harvard when they've got to have remedial math programs for people who can't do basic math and they still get into Harvard? Oh, so what is your admission to Harvard based on? Well, it's based on money or race or DEI politics

or something like that. And she accuses its board, Penny Pritzker. This is the Hyatt family. This is somebody that is related to the governor of Illinois. She says that Penny Pritzker is a Democrat operative. Well, that is true. The entire, Even worse, that whole family are gender-crat operatives. The Pritzker family is heavily, heavily, heavily into this tranny stuff. As

a matter of fact, if you look at a picture of the governor of Illinois and his cousin, they are dead ringers except one of them is dressed like a woman. It's like the Beverly Hillbillies when Jethro and Jethreen were there, right? They dressed up Max Bear as Jethreen. And see the pictures of Pritzker and his cousin next to each other. That's what it looks like. It looks like that weird episode of the Beverly Hillbillies. Anyway, and she said that Pritzker, in a Democrat operative, is driving the university into financial ruin, among many other complaints. Well, that all sounds valid. Now, what the Atlantic says. So, in other words, that's her beef with it. She didn't anywhere in there mention, at least what they were talking about. She had all

these other things there about, that were political in their perspective. So they said, so now the mask is off. Aside from only one oblique reference to congressional hearings about anti-Semitism saying, the great work of Congresswoman Elise Stefanik. Aside from that, the letter is silent on the subject. The administration is no longer pretending that it is standing up for Jewish students. The project has been revealed for what it is, an effort to punish liberal institutions for the crime of being liberal. Well, no, actually, I guess you could say that's true.

I wish they would punish them for the crime of taking federal money, because I think that's a crime. It's a crime against the taxpayer. It's a crime against the Constitution. I wish they would cut off all the federal money to all of them. Unfortunately, the Trump administration, if they can bend them to their will on a number of issues, then they will restore that money that they've stolen from the the taxpayers that they have printed up and charged us interest on the debt. On March 31st the administration said that it was reviewing $9 billion in federal grants

and contracts awarded to Harvard. They said, amongst other things, they were going to allow an external body to audit faculty viewpoints. How dare them? Can you imagine that? That they would give them $9 billion and then have the affrontery to audit that to see how it's being spent? I mean, they're Harvard. They should just get $9 billion with a B from people.

This was too much for Harvard, said the Atlantic. The university's lawyers wrote in a letter and said, neither Harvard nor any other private university can allow itself to be taken over by the federal government. Well, you did. You allowed yourself to be taken over by the federal government, I guess, when you got nine billion dollars. You're on the hook to them. I guess they feel like they're going to get away with it, and of course they have been able to get away without any audits or any inspections.

But you know, we have, as we look at with it and of course they have been able to get away without any audits or any inspections. But you know we have, as we look at Texas and other places now, they've rolled out a lot of school choice bills they say, paying for you to go to a charter school or something like that. They will give a whopping $2,000 a year to people who homeschool the students. Are you going to sell your control and your liberty for $2,000 a year for your child? Because they will pull in those same strings, those same financial strings that they're trying to tug on with Harvard. They will absolutely pull that

in. Before we go to break on Rumble, one Sarah B says they've been convinced that they can't figure life out on their own and they need an expert to tell them what to do talking about the psychiatrist. Yeah, on Rumble, Audi, Modern Retro Radio. Good to see you. ModernRetroRadio.com. But Trump will continue funding the Palestinian genocide. That's right. Yeah. We'll give them the bombs.

We'll give them the bombs. He might stop the bombs with Yemen, but we'll give them the bombs. And of course, you know, we see these pullbacks and we see the so-called talks with Iran. I think they're just laying a foundation to say, now we have justification because they broke this agreement or whatever To attack Iran on rumble shadow boxers says bombs only have value when they're used Because then you need to replace them. It's very profitable. Yeah, it is It's just like these

Reaper drones that were shooting down at 30 million apiece. I think they shot down over 17. I know that shot down at least 17 I don't know if they got some after that But yeah, you got to replace those Reaper drones And it's a small country that's doing that on rumble. Franssen says before Ukraine war I saw what Ukrainians were doing to Russians Putin had no choice But to intervene and again, it goes back a long ways. I mean we had after 2014 coup And again, he goes back a long ways. I mean, we had, after the 2014 coup, they started shelling people in the culturally and linguistically Russian areas that had always historically been Russian.

And so, yeah, that is the type of thing that's going on. There was also a military issue there. Crimea had long been a part of Russia. The Black Fleet was there, so they were going to do it. I still thought that it was a mistake for him to essentially take the bait and go in, because you know that everybody's gonna say, well, he, you know, this is when everything starts. It all starts when he crosses the border. In the same way that in the American people's minds, Iran began with a takeover of the US embassy. Then it realized that the CIA had kicked out

their elected leader in the 1950s and put in a ruthless Shah of Iran and the CIA trained his secret police to spy on people, to torture and to kill them, his political enemies. All of that is lost on the American people. So again, as I said, when you pick the starting point, one side or the other can always justify it. The only way that we're ever going to get peace though is if we move toward that is our goal, not to fix blame, not to point to atrocities, but to stop them, to stop them. Kick, A-S- ASAT attacks, says, first casualty, war is a truth. That's right. And on rumble, DG8.

Thank you, says David Marklevin had an absolute meltdown yesterday over that. He attacked little Marco for 20 minutes yesterday. My ears are still bleeding from listening to him. Well, my ears bleed whenever I listen to Mark Levin. It's a bit much for me to take. We'll take a quick break and we'll be right back. So So So So You're listening to the David Knight Show. I said at the beginning of the program, there was an amazing example of how crypto, especially these meme coins, are a pump and dump.

And we've talked over the last couple of days about how Trump is openly, openly flirting with being impeached over the open corruption that is there. But here's an example. The meme coin, the Trump meme coin that was put out like a day or so before the election and they pumped it up and then made a lot of money off of it. Because you have a few people who can buy into this before it goes public. And then it goes public and then everybody buys into this thing and then before it goes down they can they can dump it. So here's the here's the statistics on who made money and who

lost money. You've had 764,000 people have lost money. So you've got, you know, three quarters of a million people lost money. And they had 58, not 58,000, no, 58, 58 people who made money and those 58 people you got seven hundred sixty four thousand people losing money and Those 58 people made millions millions about seven hundred sixty four thousand wallets that purchased Trump's dollar Trump meme coin Have lost money on the investment according to fresh data shared with CNBC

by blockchain analytics firm Chainalysis. Chainalysis is what they don't have an N in there. Chainalysis is the name of the company. Here's the thing, it's a public ledger. Everybody can see these wallets. And with a little bit of detective work, they can figure out who these wallets belong to. I've talked about this many times. There's a billionaire who lost $900-something thousand dollars, almost a million dollars he lost.

It was stolen out of his digital wallet. But it was a large transaction. And so you've got people who will watch these transactions happening. If they see a big one, they start paying more attention to it. And so this person was able to not only see this large amount of money, nearly a million dollars in one transaction, coming out of wallet, but then he tracked it down to who owned that wallet. Just an individual.

And he contacted the guy. And the guy didn't know. He had been ripped and the guy didn't know. He had been ripped off. He didn't know. It wasn't him spending it. Somebody had stolen that out of his wallet. We had another example last week. We talked about somebody that was found.

One of the biggest, if not the biggest, ripoffs in Bitcoin yet, $300 million from one elderly individual and they said it was a social engineering type of attack. In other words, it wasn't that they did some kind of technological thing with crypto breaking into it or something like that. Instead, they figured out who it was, they got in touch with a person and played some kind of a fishing attack, some kind of a game with them on a human level to get them to transfer that money somehow. I don't know.

And then what they did was they transferred it to Monera, which is then private once it gets in there, and they split it up into a whole bunch of different groups of transactions and then scattered it to the wind, essentially, and put it into cryptocurrency that could be anonymous. But here's the point. When it's on the public ledger, it's public. You know, they use the term crypto, but the only thing that's encrypted is what they use to do the transactional aspect of it. But the actual dollar amounts there and the wallets that people can see, that's not encrypted. So this company called

Chainalysis was able to look at this and see that they could see what the blockchain is a, the public ledger is a blockchain, a chain of transactions. So they could see what these people bought it for and what they sold it for. Or what it is currently at, I guess. I don't know if it is necessarily that they sold it, but they could look and see at least what they bought it for. See they've lost money. 764,000 people lost money.

And then they could see that there were 58 people that made money and they made a lot of money. Most of the wallets that lost money held smaller amounts of the token according to the firm's on-chain analysis. Crypto wallets store the keys that you need to access and use your cryptocurrency holdings. But then here's the other part, the 58 people. They said the 58 wallets that made money made more than 10 million dollars a piece. You had 58 people with the Trump

grift that made more than 10 million dollars a piece. 764,000 people lost money. Kind of reminds me of Stop the Steal and Save America. Trump made 250 million dollars and Alex Jones made millions of dollars off the stop the steal stuff and you got a lot of people who went to jail and had their lives ruined with the January the 6th grift. But this is with the crypto stuff. Interest in the coin spiked more than 50% in the last few days after the project's website promised that the top 220 holders would have a seat at a black tie optional dinner with Trump at Mar-a-Lago. I mean, you look at how they're flirting with corruption, openly flirting with it. I mean, they're just begging for

this, because they know that their base will defend them because they've seen the Democrats go after them for non-crimes. They now feel inoculated to commit actual crimes. And so when we look at the way that this is being, all the crypto stuff is being hyped, we got an individual saying Bitwise is predicting that Bitcoin will reach a million dollars by 2029. You've got the CIA saying Bitcoin is wonderful. The CIA said they're increasingly incorporating Bitcoin as a tool in their operations and

working with cryptocurrency as a matter of national security. So here you go. Trump, you know 58 people make more than 10 million seven hundred sixty four thousand lose it You got the CIA saying they love The the scripto they love Bitcoin. It's a tool for them. They said yeah, maybe they even created it. Who knows I Would suggest that you go to David Knight. I gold you can go to Tony Ardman and you can get Gold or silver and you get out of these crazy pump and dump schemes that you really cannot control as I was talking about yesterday.

Everything is going to tokenization. They are moving to that really quickly. They are moving to stable coins really quickly as well. And they are building, they started talking about RealID this morning. They are building the framework for a global digital currency. They'll be interconnected. There won't necessarily be just one, but it'll be one system and it'll all have the ability to track everything that you do.

Did you make money? Did you lose money? They'll be able to stop you from buying stuff. It'll have all the features that we hate about CBDC, but hey, it won't be called CBDC and it won't be done by the central bank. There'll be a collection of fascist coins, so we should call it fascist coins, a merger of corporations and friends of the president who will set up private coins that will have the same functionality as a central bank digital

currency. The EU is going to, as a matter of fact, ban anonymous crypto accounts as well as privacy coins by 2027. So as I said, you know, you have Monero and a few others, Piratecoin, others, they're going to start banning that. Well, again, you know, I'm sure people will be able to operate under that, but it's going to get more and more difficult to try to get the money into it or out of it. It's going to be the on-ramps and the off-ramps that are going to be difficult to do.

But we've seen how bans and prohibitions work when we look at the drug war. It'll still be there, but it'll be a bit more difficult and it'll have higher consequences if you get caught. Because right now it's not even a crime to use that stuff. And it shouldn't. It shouldn't be a crime to have a private financial transaction. That's what they're going to outlaw. The EU wants to ban privacy.

They want to ban privacy coins. And they want to do it within two years. They want to ban anonymity. And folks, that means that they also want to ban cash. And they will eventually try to ban gold. But if you've got something that is physical like that, it's a lot harder for them to do it. Ether is more like a meme coin, says a trading firm, as Ethereum drops 45% year to date. So it's not having a good year so far. Stocks spike as Treasury Secretary Besant says

that trade deals are coming. And so as a matter of fact, today the Federal Reserve's Open Market Committee is meeting to talk about interest rates. That'll be happening today. Treasury Secretary Besant began his testimony in front of the U.S. House Appropriations Committee yesterday, and according to him, he said the U.S. is negotiating with 17 out of 18 key trade partners.

In other words, they're negotiating with everybody but China. But here's the other issue. You know, we talk about this in a lot of people, and I had a listener, supporter who said, well, I think it's a good thing to cut China out. I'm not a China supporter at all. But the issue is, what about those other 17? This was not targeted to protect a particular industry. This was not targeted towards China.

It was targeted towards the entire world Trump went to war with the entire world and now they got to try to back this back Walk it back. So we'll see what happens. But in the meantime in the meantime the real issue is the Is throwing a monkey wrench into the supply chain again, which is what he did five years ago That's my real issue. As I've said, I don't have an axe to grind with tariffs per se. I think they're a better way to collect taxes than the income tax. However, they're being added in addition to the income tax.

Now, Trump will lie to your face. He'll tell you it's not going to cause your price, and the people who are surrogates for him will lie to your face and tell you prices are not going to go up. Yeah, they are going to go up. The only question is how much and Of course that's going to depend on a lot of different factors Some some instances will be very significant But the price is going up but you're not allowed to know how much the price is going to go up So we're going to come after anybody who itemizes it, like it was rumored that Amazon was going to do. So if the price isn't going to go up,

then why get angry about Jeff Bezos itemizing it? And so what it is, this is an additional tax, but the real issue, the real issue, is the lack of planning, the lack of wargaming this out, and the constant change that has created uncertainty that has locked down the supply chains. So he says, we've not engaged with China in negotiations. So they're the 18th country that they have not negotiated with.

He suggested that the first quarter GDP, however, will be revised upward and that we are not in a recession, said Besant. Well again, they control the statistics that are out there and they will rig those numbers. They will lie to you about inflation. Biden did, Trump did, they all do. They'll lie to you about the inflation numbers. They will lie to you about the employment numbers. Every quarter, they will revise the unemployment. This has been going on, Republican, Democrat, for a very long time. They'll always revise the previous quarter's numbers downward to make the current numbers look better. And Biden famously got caught adding over 800, almost 900, I think it's 880,000 jobs

that didn't exist to their labor report. So they could play the same game, who knows? The stock market is not really an accurate metric of that. What we should look at is whether we have small, medium-sized businesses failing because of this uncertainty in the supply chain. He also said that the US, listen to this, will quote, never default on its debt and that the Treasury will not use gimmicks on the debt ceiling. Well, I can believe that they would never default. I would imagine that they would just, you know, devalue the dollar or play games like

that with it. But in terms of not using gimmicks, well, he's lying because that's all they do is use gimmicks. And again, that's not just the Trump administration. That's all of them. We're going to be shedding excess labor on the government side," he said. We will have a substantial financial deregulatory agenda that will be coming up. Yeah, you better believe that they are going to liberalize any rules about crypto, about tokenization and all the rest of this stuff.

So they might have a lot of financial deregulation, but in terms of deregulating the rules that will allow people to open and create and continue to run businesses, I don't think they're going to do anything about that. But they will be shedding excess labor on the government side. And I said that this is what Musk's moves were all about from the first place. To minimize the number of government employees, but to maximize governance. And I believe that'll be done with the number of government employees, but to maximize governance. And I believe that will be done with the application of artificial intelligence. Community banks, he said, small banks, small regional banks, were very near what I would

call an extinction event in the next four to five years. Well, isn't that interesting? Because Eric Trump was saying the same thing, and so was Witkoff Jr., his partner. They were all setting themselves up with World Liberty Financial, I guess, the Trump family thing. And in terms of talking about that, Eric Trump was saying, well, they'll most likely be gone in 10 years. Well, Besant is saying four to five years.

And that is not even necessarily looking at their exposure to commercial real estate loans. We'll see what happens with the banks. But what he's talking about, if you look at these things together, they're going to have substantial financial deregulatory agenda and banks, community banks, small banks, small regional banks, an extinction event in the next four to five years. That's what they're engineering. They're going to make themselves the banks, the people who cause 764,000 people lose money and 58 people to make over 10 million dollars apiece. Trump wants the Fed to cut rates today when

they meet and so the general take from the financial writers is that that's not likely to happen. They say there's a 97% likelihood that the Fed is going to maintain the current interest rates where they are. They said however that they think that when they come back in July, July 30th meeting, that the probability of rate cut there is currently at 80% says FedWatch. Well nobody knows. Nobody knows what Jerome Powell is going to do anymore. They know what Trump's going to do with the tariffs. Everybody just sits there with bated breath to see what these guys are going to do. So on Friday, Mr. Trump said on his social media platform, Truth Social, he said, there is no inflation, all uppercase, claimed that grocery and egg prices have fallen, that gas

has dropped to $1.98 a gallon. While those claims are not entirely true, grocery prices have jumped up 0.5% in two of the past three months and are up 2.4% from a year ago. Gas and oil prices, however, have declined. Gas costs are down 10% from a year ago, continuing a longer-running trend that has continued in part because of fears that the economy will weaken. Because why? Well, because we've got higher taxes and because we've got supply chain

disruptions. That's what happens when you interject a sudden shock to the system and when you add to that sudden shock, indecision and constantly fluctuating policies. So, yeah, you've got a picture of... Travis got a picture of his son from yesterday. Yesterday was his six-month birthday and so he had a little bit of a celebration there. If you want to show people that picture, that'd be great. And, you know, do you have it ready? Go ahead. Oh, there we go.

There he is. He's got a half hat. And they gave him some cake. He didn't really know what to do with it. He's not used to eating that stuff, actually. So that was what we did yesterday. I'm going to continue without a break because we've got a break coming up in about five minutes.

Our interview is about 40, 46 minutes or so that we had with Chris Emory about the Oklahoma City bombing. And it's an excellent interview, pre-recorded. I just want to say this because I was talking about the money with Harvard and the other stuff, the financial strings. This is an article from WNG.org that says, �As homeschooling increases, so do the attempts to restrict it.� Proposals for regulations are popping up throughout the US and throughout Britain as well.

And they began by talking about a mother who is educating her son at home and started about seven years ago. Now he's 13. They said the school days might involve taking him to the museum, to the Natural History Museum, other things like that. They used some textbooks to guide his education, but they described the curriculum as, quote unquote, flexible. What we would say here in the U.S we'd call that kind of unschooled. It allows for unscheduled visits to the library or to the Victoria Tower gardens beside the

houses of parliament. She said we do a lot of this informal learning that actually ends up turning into bigger learning. But now the British government wants a lot of reports and paperwork about what you're doing, your curriculum, your activity, and all the rest of this stuff. This is a bill that is scheduled for a second reading in the House of Lords. Legislation would, among a host of other stipulations, require homeschooling parents to provide extensive documentation of their curriculum plans to notify authorities of

any changes in the plans within 15 days. She said, my home education journey will be completely changed if this passes. And so she would have the time consuming burden of reporting all education plan adjustments to the government. The burden people with all kinds of reports and things like that and it's a way of shutting it down passively, passively, aggressively. And this is not just happening in the UK. You have lawmakers in the US have been calling for more accountability saying that homeschooling movement has compounded the risk of child abuse.

Nothing could be further from the truth if you look at the statistics. That is absolutely not true. And if you look at the continued reports of what is happening, even when you have some kind of a pedophile teacher that uses their influence with the kids, if you look at the institutional curriculum, it is pedophilia. It is pushing pornography and sexual acts to minors. The very institution, they're not talking about individual teachers, but it has been institutionalized, the pedophilia and the perversion. But in the UK, they have a 1996 Education Act that says parents have to provide a suitable

education for their children, quote, either by regular attendance at a school or otherwise. So it's pretty open. Children who have never been enrolled in public schools are automatically considered to be home educated. In the United States, though homeschooling became officially legal in all 50 states by the early 90s, laws differ very much by state. According to the Homeschool Legal Defense Association, some states have low regulations while four have rigorous restrictions. Parents in Pennsylvania have to notify local school superintendents of their intent to homeschool. And of course, we see in some

Republican-oriented states, it's really surprising to see this, in January in New Hampshire, they introduced a bill calling for home education programs that are receiving tax credits or scholarships to participate in having criminal background checks. Already the strings are there, aren't they? In Indiana, a bill introduced this year would prevent chronically absent students from withdrawing from public schools unless the parents submit a curriculum plan and progress reports to the school superintendent in Illinois, which currently has no notification requirement.

Lawmakers are considering a bill that would require parents to provide local school districts with a declaration of intent to home school. An Oklahoma bill requires parents to declare intent to home school and disclose the names of everyone involved with their children's education. Now three of those four states are Republican states. So again, if you look at how this is rolling out in Texas, as I said, there are money bills that will be giving a subsidy. And Governor Abbott has signed this bill into law. You know, we go back to the film Killing Ed. It's a great example of charter schools going

wrong, being taken over by an Islamic cleric, Fatala Ghulain, who recently passed away, but the Ghululenist movement is still alive. They've got over 83 schools in Texas. Over a billion dollars they're getting in Texas. That's a worst-case example of this. But of course, many of the corporations are also equally bad. But what they've decided that they're going to do is they're going to give $10,000 per year to kids if they go to these charter schools. And again, they can buy you for $2,000 if you are a home schooler. It is a trap. It is a trap. Do not sell your heritage or freedom. Do not sell your children for $2,000 a year or even for more. Don't

for $2,000 a year or even for more. Don't take the money. The money is a trap, absolutely a trap. Well, we're gonna go to our interview with Chris Emery and I think you're gonna find this very interesting about Oklahoma City bombing. We're gonna begin with a clip, and I think you've got it. I think you're gonna have to throw to it, Travis. We began with a trailer of the film to kind

of give you an overall interview, but we went back and we talked about all the different aspects of it, and there's some new evidence that Chris Emery, who has become a real expert on the Oklahoma City bombing, some new evidence is there, and they're putting together an effort to try to fund more research into it. And he'll tell you how you can get involved with that as well. So let's go ahead and throw to the interview. I was sitting at my desk there on the eighth floor. I felt the building start shaking.

Lights went out. Debris started falling on my desk. Something hit me in the back of the head and knocked me out before the truck bomb went off. What that tells you is that there were other explosive devices in the building that actually brought the building down. It's an earthquake. Everybody get down underneath on the floor. And I had sat there and I thought, no, it doesn't feel like an earthquake. Seven or eight seconds later, I felt this explosion.

Only an imbecile would look at that damage pattern and not understand that it couldn't have been made by a truck bomb because a truck bomb is going to release its energy simultaneously in every direction. The record clearly shows that Dr. John Lee and West consulted Timothy McVeigh's defense team. Dr. West had previously been a psychiatrist and consulted for Patty Hearst, Saran Saran, and Jack Ruby. A noble lie, Oklahoma City in 1995 will change forever the way you look at the

true nature of terrorism. The grand jury did not want to hear anything I had to say. The decision was made not to pursue any more of those individuals. The greatest manhunt there's ever been. Do you remember the Whitewater investigation in Arkansas? All the paperwork was stored in the Murrah building. Hey, somebody knew about a prior bomb threat. Every bit of important evidence Whitewater investigation in Arkansas, all of the paperwork was stored in the Murrah Building. Hey, somebody knew about a prior bomb threat. Every bit of important evidence has brought us to the Oklahoma City bombing.

Expose the cover-up now at enobolai.com. Joining us now is Chris Emery of freemindfilms.com, and we wanted to talk to him about an update to the Oklahoma City bombing. A very important film was done, I guess it's now the first one was done in 2011. They've done some updates to it. The most recent one was 2015. That was the 20th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing. We've just hit the 30th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing. And there is new information and they're talking about doing a new investigation. We're gonna get that information from Chris Emory of

freemindfilms.com. Thank you for joining us, Chris. David, thank you so much. It's great to be talking to you again. It's been a while. Yeah, it has, it has. I remember talking about this so many times. Very important film.

And we played the trailer just before the interview so people can get a sense of it. There's so many different issues with what happened with Oklahoma City. And of course, reeked from the very beginning, part of a long chain of questionable events for many of us going back to Waco and Ruby Ridge. And then this, I think that, you know, obviously it was connected and I think it was connected by the government to shut that investigation down. But then we have the other events that were connected.

We had 9-11, dark winter, the pandemic, all these different types of things. Once people realize with any of these that we have been lied to and deceived and they start to see how this agenda kind of lines up through these different things, then that is when the lights come on and people start to ask some real questions. Now people are starting to ask questions there in Florida. Tell us a little bit about that. Yes, well ever since the new Trump administration was sworn in, we've had a lot of you know information of course with the NIH, with the FBI. There's fresh blood and as one of my colleagues in Congress said, well, we've got several fresh set of eyes on this thing and they want to basically start from scratch. And they know that

there was a lot of malfeasance going on. Merrick Garland, of course, the former U.S. Attorney General, he was appointed as a U.S. Special U.S. Prosecutor to head up the Oklahoma City Investigation to head up the Oklahoma City investigation within about a week after the case was, the bombing happened in April of 1995. We found out as a film crew in October of 2003, I had a meeting with Stephen Jones, who is McVeigh's lead defense counsel. I had a meeting at his office in Enid, Oklahoma, and he heard through the grapevine that our crew really wanted to do a great job, very professional job to strip down to the bare bones, find out what really happened. Put the official narrative under magnifying glass. And after about 10 minutes in the film, we

tore that apart and started all over again. But to back up a second, he after about a three hour meeting I had with him at his office in North Central Oklahoma, he said that he was going to give us full and unfettered access to 142 boxes of legal documents that he had at a repository in Austin, Texas. And it's at it was at the law library of Jason to the LBJ presidential library north of UT campus. And he said that Mary Carlin, three and a half months, basically urged, strongly urge and pleaded with the trial judge,

Richard P. Mesh who presided over both the Nichols and the McVeigh trial to, he wanted that information in those boxes sealed for seven years. So what we were able to gain over 90% of that information including relevant exculpatory evidence that would have proven Nichols was completely, he was innocent and McVeigh was set up. We found out subsequently when we went through that that the jury in both trials never saw that information. We literally opened a vault of incredible information. So that information is relevant to a reinvestigation and there are members of Congress

surprisingly on both sides of the aisle that want to take a look at this and say, Hey, let's let's start over. And we're very cautiously optimistic. We understand that there may be some some folks that may want to underhanded approach, but the people that we talked to said, no, we really want to do a good job on this. And that's in line with Tulsi Gabbard with RFK with cash Pat, and they're willing to admit hey there is information on the RFK case, the JFK, Martin Luther King. So this is in basically in lockstep with that and we've got a very important meeting tomorrow morning actually with some key researchers in the case as well as a

member of Congress that are very serious about looking at this. That's great All right, you know, I hope that it'll happen and when I look at it Because of the role of Merrick Garland because this is kind of like his first starring role, I guess, you know And and also the connection with the Clintons and things like that. I look at it because of that political angle I've got some hope that this might happen we might have an investigation because this would this would help these people on that side. We look at some of the stuff like the Epstein files. I'm kind of suspicious about the fact that with Trump's connections with it, that they

would ever release anything about that. And even when you go back to the JFK files, if anybody ever put anything in there that was going to be incriminating, they would have gotten rid of that a long time ago. So I've been really skeptical and dubious about those. But this, because of the connections of Merrick Garland, who is severely hated by Donald Trump, and also Hillary, talk a little bit about Hillary and all the documents that were there with the Clintons there at that building in Oklahoma City. Well, what we found out, we actually had a source with in Little Rock, Arkansas. This is a gentleman that served a dual role with the Secret Service and the ATF. And he said that there were documents

in the building that were going to be brought forward to indict both Bill and Hillary on corruption and underlining charges through the Whitewater case. Now, as a film crew, we weren't able to actually see any of those documents, but this trusted source said yes, the documents were in the building. And here's, it's very, you know, you don't have to get too complicated to really go through the thread of history here. And I said, why would they be stored in the Murrah building in downtown Oklahoma City? He says, because there was an arcane rule in Congress. If you're going to indict a sitting president, it cannot be held in the federal courthouse in the home state.

And by geographic default, Oklahoma City was the closest federal courthouse to the one in Little Rock. New Orleans was too far away, St. Louis, Dallas. fault Oklahoma City was the closest federal courthouse to the one in Little Rock. New Orleans was too far away, St. Louis, Dallas. So they literally brought them to Oklahoma City and stored them in the APMUR federal building. And our best guess is that they were on the seventh floor in the DEA safe room, which was actually built into the building long after the grand opening. The DEA had a custom safe room there,

and we know of other information that was stored there, as well as contraband and money for a big drug case that was due to go to court in May of that year. So there was a lot of concentric circles, a lot of dual purposes, basically to have the destruction of that building, and the documents that would have, by the end of 1995, Bill and Hillary Clinton would have been finished. They probably would have been

in prison. So the stakes were very, very high. And as you know, the Clintons are as corrupt as it is long and they fight tooth and nail to stay in power. This would have taken them down. Yeah. It was interesting that my son showed me a screen clip and I'm, it looks like it's something that could actually, I don't, I didn't verify if it was real or not, but it said something about all the suicides around the Clintons. And last it was asked AI chat program about it and it started with listing several of them.

I got to Jeffrey Epstein, it goes, uh, and it stops and it goes, uh, error occurred. I don't know if that was real or not, or if that was something Photoshopped. But you know, that's kind of where we have been with all of this stuff. And when you look at the fact, even more so than Hillary, Merrick Garland, this would align if they could find the truth on him, if there's some kind of a coverup,

this would perfectly align with Trump's desire to get vengeance. So that could actually work in our favor to try to get some truth out of could actually work in our favor to try to get some truth out of this thing. Now one of the things, and you mentioned that even in the trailer that I played before the interview, the fact that, and I remember this from the New American, the John Burke Society, they had a former demolitions general, and he talked about the fact that if you look

at the blast pattern, it was not a single point source So it was not coming from a car and in the trailer you've got somebody saying no I was there There was two explosions that you know, one of them knocked me down. Then there was another explosion So this wasn't a single point source and multiple indications of that many many things about it. They were very suspicious but We'll talk a little bit about that aspect of it. Well, actually, the person you're referring to is probably General Benton Parton. And I actually met with him. This was two weeks before I met with McVeigh's defense council.

I was at General Parton's home in Alexandria, Virginia. We had just finished having a steak dinner at Fort Belvoir. He was at the officers club, drove back to his house, and we sat up to almost three o'clock in the morning. And I was just looking at the documents I have. It's three pages of legal document or pad pages, both sides that he scribbled out the formulas and everything. And he explained to me, he says, look, these were the brisants and the damage to three main support columns and we're able to find out exactly which ones through the blueprints that were provided to us by a source of the GSA office in Fort Worth.

And he said that if you had an info in a 52 foot trailer in pristine lab conditions obviously which didn't exist that day. You know, there was 42 mile an hour headwinds. It was about 47 degrees, and the humidity was pretty high. He said, even if you had perfect lab conditions, it still wouldn't have done the damage it did to that building, which completely refutes the ANFO narrative. So that's just cock and bull.

That's like Acme bomb in a Roadrunner cartoon. It's ridiculous. So but what he said was that, yes, there were actually 23 devices in the building. And we corroborated this from the Oklahoma County Bomb Squad, a medic that came forward and helped us out that was on the squad that morning and reported to the scene within about 10 minutes after the blast. They know what to look for. There was odor of C4 and cordite in the air which he remembered as this source remembered from Vietnam when he served there. It was unbelievable. Yeah you don't

forget that. You don't forget that. I mean this smell, since the smell is really hardwired into your memory and I imagine if last time you smell that stuff you were in Vietnam under fire or something, that's gonna be immediate connection to you, right? Well here's the key, even on the very first helicopter footage that you saw, the bombing, and a third of the building was launched a good block and a half to the north of where it stood. Looked like an alien craft just sucked it and displaced it everywhere. But the key is, David, when you look at that footage that was shot within about 20

minutes after the bombing, there was no no fires there was no flames in the building that is again refutes uh... that the majority of of the uh... damage being done by antole because we have a case we we would and what we had to go retro to look at other cases that info was used in august of nineteen seventy the army math research building and uh... and uh... on the campus of university wisconsin madison of 1970 the Army math research building and on the campus of University of Wisconsin Madison there was an info used a much smaller quantity than was alleged in the truck and there were flames coming out of the building it was on fire I interviewed the the police chief at the time that

had the the archives from that case and he said yeah they had not only the Madison Police Department, but the UW Fire Department and the city and the county respond. And they had to bring in, here's another key, David, 22 people from that case had to be taken to the hospital because they were buckling over vomiting from the anfo, the fumes. That never happened in Oklahoma City. Why? Because Teri Ake, who we featured in the film, went in literally within about 12 minutes after the blast was pulling people out. He

never got violently sick. So the whole narrative of ANFO is completely wiped out. Once you look at it in the in prior cases and what happened, just medical treatment of the people rushing in. None of the search and rescue, none of the first responders, none of the victims that survived, and of course, Teriyaki. None of them started vomiting from anfo fumes. So that means that there was, it was dry ordnance that was used, the cordite and explosives that were set on the columns between floors two and three, between the drop ceiling and the next concrete slab. There was about three feet. They were set hidden above the drop ceiling and the next concrete slab there was about three feet

they were set hidden above the the drop ceiling and They were electronic mercury switches that we used to set those off Three of them had gone off 20 of them were rendered inert and They were set to go off within ten minutes of the initial blast to kill the first responders Search and rescue and people coming in but luckily that second phase of the bombing, the ordinance never went off. We would have had more devastation. It would have been horrendous. And so that's how you know so much detail about these preplaced explosives is because

they didn't detonate, right? Correct. And the bomb squad found them. Yeah. Wow. That's amazing. And so, you know, when we look at this, if people had paid attention to your documentary, if they'd paid attention to what was going on, perhaps we would not

have had a follow-up where we've got three buildings collapse in the footprint with two planes, only two of them being hit by a plane and that type of thing. If people were aware, wait a minute, they have blown up buildings in the past and given us a completely different narrative about how that happened, perhaps that would wake up people as well. Let's talk a little bit about, because Timothy McVeigh was the biggest question mark

that I had. Why would he assume this role and push on this to essentially try to make himself a hero? You know, what was going on with that? What was his role in that? Well, what we found out in those records that, and he even told his sister this, that he was actually a professional assassin and a gun runner for the CIA in the months leading up to the bombing. We know definitively from September of 94 through the morning of the bombing, he was working with at least seven guys in Oklahoma City we know the motel where

they stayed at we saw the rooming list from the owner of the motel but the point is that the bombing was actually and a lot of people don't know this they was at the understanding that was going to happen at nine o'clock the night before 12 hours earlier with no casualties there was only one security guard that actually his security was four blocks between the federal courthouse a federal building uh... more building and then a apartment complex in another building and they they timed it they literally case this out for a week before uh... to figure out what he was going to be in the building when he was not and

they wanted to blow it up when he wasn't there. They don't want anybody counting. Lo and behold, we have Louis Free, the director of the FBI, his number two in command, Larry Potts, was McVeigh's handler. Now let that soak in for about five seconds. McVeigh had a handler from the FBI that reported directly to Louis Free,

who was ahead of the FBI. We had Robert Mueller help cover up the case, worked in tandem with McGlovenhan with Merrick Garland. So these guys were their ugly heads later on. Robert Mueller doing an independent investigation of the Russia hunks. And when I found that out I thought... And also involved with 9-11 as well, you know. Yes, absolutely. For the 9-11 stuff. It's all the usual suspects, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Grant, get this. Now we had the Oklahoma County District Attorney's Office, a speakerphone meeting within four days after the bombing. They're literally giving the local authorities and the DA's office marching orders on how the Oklahoma City case was going to be investigated. Who they were going

after, selective prosecution, who they were going to let go, gonna let go because there were US government assets that were helping with that it wasn't supposed to go live David but Larry Potts says no we want a body count and McVeigh said oh hell no I'm a professional assassin and a drug smuggler I'm not killing children well he was he had him over the barrel and several other charges and we got that directly from Terry Nichols who got it from McVeigh. I don't know why McVeigh would make that up. He's a professional soldier, he's a professional assassin, you don't go after innocents like that, but he was ordered by Larry Potts to make sure there was a body count, hence what unfolded on the morning of April 19. So that's it

in a nutshell there and this information is going to come out, hopefully we have the right people with the fortitude and the mental acuity and the moral fortitude to say, hey, we need to tell the people of Oklahoma, of the United States and of the world what really happened that morning. Why the 168 people, including three unborn children, were brutally murdered that morning.

It's inexcusable. Now on the 30th anniversary, one of the reasons this came up to me, I think, was because we talked about Nichols lawyer, Trinadu, and of course he's got a website set up to honor his brother that he believes was involved and murdered and all of that, jessytrinadu.com. And he was talking about some new evidence as well. Are you connected in any way with him? I haven't. I haven't. I've tried to reach out to Jesse. We've lost touch over the years but we did keep in touch for about

almost three years consistently and there was an in-camera interview that we conducted from Oklahoma City through a video service. Oddly enough, my ex roommate up there applied for a job the month before the bombing. And he was eyewitness and ear witness to all of the monitors and cameras that were working just fine. So for the F and the, the federal government in Jesse's case said, Hey, they didn't exist. Well, we have a key witness that applied for a job. They took the tour of the building a month before the bombing. That was, it was an unbelievable Easter Sunday we had a long talk with

Jesse and about a month later I want to say 2012-2013 is when that testimony was and the federal prosecutor and head of the team in Salt Lake City going against Jesse was furious that this witness came up. So they tried to basically impugn his reputation and his expertise on cameras. That was their easy way of backsliding out of it all, but it was irrefutable. So that was, yeah, we worked with Jesse on that. We showed other intel.

And I think as we make progress on there, we definitely want to reach out to Jesse and have him be part of this. Now, Trinity was the lawyer for Terry Nichols. And, you know, I think it we make progress on there, we definitely wanna reach out to Jesse and have him be part of this. Now, Trinity was the lawyer for Terry Nichols and I think it's kind of interesting with all the back and forth that's going on between 60 Minutes and Trump. 60 Minutes is presented as the impeccable source

of integrity and all the rest of the stuff. But Trinity came out and said, well, we had an interview that was scheduled with Terry Nichols, they got a call and they shut it down, which is also very interesting. That's a lot, doesn't it? In terms of the massive scope, as you pointed out, you know, the FBI, the CIA was also involved. Now, of course, you mentioned that, you know, Louis Freeh and his number two guy was a handler for Timothy McVeigh. You mentioned that he's also had CIA connections in it. So we see all of the FBI, the CIA, the intelligence agencies that are there.

And I'm sure that, you know, 60 Minutes is just another manifestation or tentacle, I guess, of the Operation Mockingbird stuff. They'll do what they're told. They'll do some investigations of maybe corporations or individuals, but they'll do what they're told when it comes to the government, I guess, right? Let me clarify what happened with 60 Min 60 minutes if you have a minute sure so ed bradley uh rest is totally he was actually very good uh reporter um and his team sent notice written notice and a set of questions to terry nichols to the florence colorado uh super backs

what the um the the staff that received the mail never passed it on to Terry Nichols. So literally, at Bradley and his team show up at the prison ready to do the interview, Nichols has no clue. There was no summons to bring him down from the cell block. That's where it went cold right there. And Bradley was not very happy about that.

They flew out there and were ready to go. Lights, camera, everything ready to go. Nichols had no clue. And they sent this ahead of time. that. They flew out there and were ready to go. Lights, camera, everything ready to go. Nichols had no clue. And they sent this ahead of time. Now, the way Jesse got on there from the best of my understanding, and Jesse could correct me, is that he was actually the legal counsel after the federal trial and the state of Oklahoma versus Terry Lynn Nichols trial. So he was on a list of attorneys that were able to visit Terry. After the debacle with 60 Minutes, John Ashcroft pretty much put a lid on that.

He said, nobody's going to be talking to Nichols about this case ever. Why the hell would John Ashcroft step forward? Yeah. Yeah. And then of course now is the one that succeeded them years on, Merrick Garland was in lockstep with all of that. So that's why there is a need to bring this information out. There's not a week that goes by that I don't think about evidence. They either come up through an

email or a friend contacting me and they say no, there's no way in hell I'm going to my grave, not least trying to do a decent job of getting this information out. Thank God we still have that core group that helped us with our film, the researchers, some of them are still alive including Jesse, Charles Key, Craig Roberts, and I got a tip-hat to your former boss Alex Jones and his staff for helping us with that. So we're gonna stick at this as long as we can. These people never know what happened and why it happened. You know, when you're talking about being a bipartisan thing, you know, again, John

Ashcroft with Republican administrations shutting this stuff down as well. Because again, you know, I, it's my personal opinion that the political parties are just kind of a front for the real government, which is going to be the people like the FBI, the CIA, and these other usual suspects that are there. So of course, which is going to be the people like the FBI, the CIA, and these other usual suspects that are there. So of course it's going to be a bipartisan issue there. But getting back to McVeigh, one of the things about it, okay, so he's there and he was going to set this thing up as, blow this building when there weren't people there, they change it.

They've kind of got him over a barrel. Why did he try to portray the defiant hero in all this? What do you think was up about that? You know what David, and that's a very good question because we know from key witnesses, let me, this is, as Doven, glove in hand with what you just asked. We actually know there were two teams working on this. There was the McVeigh that was shot by Charlie Hanger within I believe an hour and 10 minutes after the bombing or less than that. Then there's the McVeigh that was actually downtown

hanging out right after the bombing, look-alike. So we don't know the McVeigh that was interviewed by 60 Minutes or was, you know, had his own narrative. We don't know if that's the one that actually committed the case, or committed the crime. So that's a whole level of confusion right there that we're still trying to sort through.

And how do we know? Because Jermaine Johnson, who was a survivor of the bombing, who actually, interestingly enough, backed out of an interview with our film crew two hours before we were gonna show up at her front door. I don't know who gave her the call or put the pressure on. But if you could picture this, David, the bombing happens. Jermaine Johnson or here is all over the place. There's concrete dust and everything. She literally came within an inch of her life. Several of her friends were killed in the bombing, walk

six blocks southwest of the of or southeast of the crime scene. McVeigh is leaning against the hood of his yellow Mercury marquee with another guy. They're both looking toward the bomb site. Jermaine Johnson has no idea obviously who he is. Nobody knew until the next day when his face was all over the TV. And this individual looks just like McVeigh,

asked her, she says, were there any people killed? And she said, yes, several of my friends were. She's still in shock figuring out what the hell just happened. So that's within, she said about 10 to 12 minutes after the bombing, who's the McVeigh that they stopped by Charlie Hanger? The state trooper, there was his day off,

it was out of his precinct. He was given orders to drive up that stretch of I-35 just south of Perry, Oklahoma, not far from the Kansas border. We had an expert at the Oklahoma DOT, Department of Transportation say there's no way that that McVeigh that Jermaine Johnson saw and the one that Charlie Hanger could have been the same one. That one that Jermaine Johnson saw would have had to been traveling at, he said, in excess of 135 miles an hour, no stoplights. Yeah, I mean, just from point A to point B, it would have been impossible. So we knew right there that there was two teams working.

So and Jermaine Johnson said, yeah, that looked just like the McVeigh on TV the next day. That information was never brought out. And that's why Merrick Garland was adamant about quashing a lot of the evidence that would have Really thrown confusion and and suspect Credibility on on the prosecution case against McVeigh is like all right Who are these two who did you who did Charlie Hanger stop and who was the one that Jermaine Johnson was talking to? So but then you're to your point is that yes, he was working for the CIA Merrick Garland did not want that to come out.

And that was part of the records that we saw. We saw his pay grade, how his bills were getting paid, the fact that he had a lurch at his access, almost two and a half years before the bombing. He would go out and do what he needed to do, come home, take his dry cleaning, make dinner, get up the next morning, go do where else he had to do.

It was unbelievable. Wow. And what he was getting paid was absolutely insane. Most of it was cash. Wow. So there's a possibility in your mind that there was one public McVeigh who's making all these radical statements

about an evictus and all the rest of this stuff, you know? My head is bloody, but I'm bowed. And then there was another one that they jailed and executed. Is that what you're saying then? Well, here again, they did jail this individual. We don't know if he even died. Yeah, that'd be Craig Roberts and I have been on joint interviews several times. If people ask us you think he's dead? And without skipping a beat, we said no, I don't think he's dead. And a retired CIA asset that helped us with investigating some of the the financial end of this said look that would really throw rents in the works

to recruit for the CIA when you're starting to kill off your assets like that that's completely against the motive operation unless there was treason or you know they're working for an enemy then that's a whole different deal. Wow. So well now when Merrick Garland wanted to quash information I think was uh... you know they're they're working for an enemy and then that's all there for deal well now when merrick garland wanted to quash information i think was that about the time that uh... you know hoppy heidelberg who is a part of the presidential grand jury and he's asking some questions and stuff like that uh... it was it uh... and he got out of the grand jury and he convened the

citizens grand jury to try to continue to investigate but it was uh... was, was that kind of in response to Merrick Garland quashing information? Okay, so what you're referring to is two different things, which is good. I'm glad you brought that up. Hoppe was a member of the grand jury. He was actually dismissed by Judge David Russell, who presided over selecting defense counsel and so forth. And Hoppe had 10 questions for him. We want relevant evidence, we want physical evidence, we want experts, we're entitled to this grand jury. The judge never responded to any of those.

He summarily dismissed him from the jury without cause and threatened to have him, yeah, it was unbelievable. So what Charles Key, the state representative, after that convened a citizen's grand jury through his power and his authority as a Oklahoma state representative at the time. So there were two things going on at once. But yes, to answer your question, Merrick Arlen was also attempting to quash that exculpatory evidence to show McVeigh and Nichols. Nichols was completely innocent.

He was set up. He was framed. And even the Inspector General's office report said yeah, the evidence was basically slanted to incriminate both defendants, not only Nichols but Big Bay. So there was a lot of things going on at once and Merrick Garland was running to keep up with himself just to make sure that that evidence would never come out and neither of the juries in both federal trials ever saw that evidence, exculpatory evidence. Wow. Now did Hoppe Heidelberg get involved with that Citizens Grand Jury that was convened by the representative? No, no sir. But I do want to share something with you and

rest this old Hoppe passed away about a year after our film, seven months after the film was released, he passed on. In fact, it was an interview with Infowars that he made the announcement that he had the cancer. And I was sitting right next to him in our studio in Oklahoma City. And I knew about it when I picked him up from his ranch that morning.

We had about a 40 minute drive to the studio and he told me everything. And he made the announcement to Alex. Alex was shell shocked. It was a hell of an interview for almost two hours on info wars That name that's a name that always sticks with you. I'm out, you know Hoppy Heidelberg. Yeah, that's one of the key things It's been a while things are a little bit foggy for me because it's been a while since I've seen your documentary and and looked into This but that that name always pops to the front, a very unusual name.

An unusual guy too, if only we had more people like him. What, and one more relevant point with Hoppy, David. In, I moved to Oklahoma City in January of 03, in late February, I drove down to his ranch, first time I met him, and we sat at his kitchen table and shared a pot of coffee for about three hours. And he told me toward the end, he says, look, I knew all of the information that it clearly showed other people were involved.

We wanted that brought to the grand jury and the judge wouldn't allow it. He got a visit from an attorney that he later figured out. Hoppe is a member of Metsa. He's pretty smart. This guy, he's nobody's fool. And this particular attorney that showed up was a very professional, didn't get in his face, but he said, we're at the point now, Mr. Heidelberg, where you're going to have to back off and stop asking questions. We know where your grandchildren live.

We know where your daughters and your children work in the banks. He's showing him literally Hoppe pictures of where faces of employment are. And he said, if you don't back off, this is, I can't guarantee their safety anymore. It was basically a very overt threat to say, back the F off or things are gonna happen that's gonna be very damaging to your family, physically and mentally and financially.

And he had no choice. So he goes from being a multimillion dollar horse breeder out of Blanchard Oklahoma 42 miles southeast of west of downtown Oklahoma City to driving a school bus and hauling fuel oil. All of his clients basically just said we don't want to talk to you anymore. You're crossing the line here. Yeah luckily his wife had gainful. They were able to still keep the bills paid, but he went from a multimillionaire to basically nothing. They stripped his gainful employment right after him under and threatened his family.

Yeah. It's not, uh, it's not unusual I guess for us to see this happening with social media, with other venues as well. And of course we, recently I played Jenny McCarthy talking about the fact that she was threatened just because she was talking about the vaccine stuff. They threatened her, threatened her family and messed with her career.

So it is truly amazing, the corrupt system and the intimidation that is there. But when we look at this as we go into the future and it is hopeful that we might be able to get something, again, there's a lot of, in a new investigation, opening this up and perhaps getting to some additional information. But I would recommend everybody,

I'm gonna go back and refresh my memory on this as well because it truly is a fascinating story and one that is indicative of our times and of our government as well but before we end Terry Nichols tell us a bit about Terry now you know, Timothy McVeigh very very strange character the connections that he had with CIA the FBI the rest of this. Terry Nichols was he just kind of a Apache that was brought in by McVeigh? Well, they served together at Fort Riley in Kansas. They did not serve together in Iraq. Terry was stateside, I believe, when Tim was serving overseas. But yes, he was brought in as a Apache. We did find out, and there were two trials that

went on with Terry. It was the federal trial. They were indicted under eight counts of murder because there was eight federal employees killed that morning. And then the state of Oklahoma versus Terry Lynn Nichols, there was 160 counts of murder because they were non-federal employees and civilians from the state of Oklahoma. And that was the state trial.

There was no state trial from McVeigh because quote unquote, he was killed under lethal injection. Again we don't know that was even true. But Terry had a very how do we say this arrested development personality. He had the mental and the intellectual acuity of a eighth grader. So he's very easy, very easy to manipulate. Never heard him in the seven days that I was at the state trial off and on driving back and forth from Oklahoma City to McAllister, Oklahoma. It was at the Pittsburgh County Courthouse. But I never heard him

speak. It was his defense counsel that was speaking for him and key witnesses. But what interesting thing with that trial of bringing up Larry Potts McBase handler. So if you can imagine, the defense counsel for Terry Nichols calls Larry Potts as a hostile witness, obviously, and the federal government, this is not even their venue. This is a state trial. They have no business being in a state court. Steven Taylor and I spoke with Judge Taylor after the trial several years months after. And

he said that he was furious. It took him three days to cool off because john Ashcroft at the time, and Louis free forbade Larry Potts from showing up in that courtroom. And they had no business telling the judge who was going to come in. It wasn't their trial. It wasn't their venue. And the judge really shot off a very terse letter to Ashcroft and the prosecution at the time, he says, You have no business coming and telling him my witness is coming in of our courtroom. They did not want Larry Potts to get on the stand.

And he would have had to commit perjury, then that would have really snowballed into a whole different thing. The whole narrative would have started unraveling right there. And, yeah, so and even the jury at the state trial saw through, they said, no, there's something horribly wrong going on here. And they sentenced him to life without a chance of parole, and that's where he's serving in Florence, Colorado right now. He should have been out, at the most he should have served maybe about two years, and he would have been out of prison by now. Wow. So that's why we want a reinvestigation in this case. Way too many loose ends, way too

many unanswered questions. And of course, you know, we look at the connections with Merrick Garland and Louis Free and all these other things, Hillary Clinton and the Clintons and the papers that are there. Another very important aspect of this was obviously by doing it on the anniversary of what happened in Waco, a big part of this, you know, the obvious thing was that they wanted to shut down the pushback that was building against what had happened with Ruby Ridge and with Waco. There was a growing militia movement as people were saying, wait a minute, you know, something is wrong with this government. They, you know, what are they planning to do down the road when you look at what happened with these

two things? And of course, you remember that everybody should remember that Ruby Ridge happened under the George H.W. Bush regime and the Waco thing happened under the Clinton regime. And it was largely the same people. Of course, Janet Reno was there at the front, but you still had the same FBI people and so forth from these two different front organizations, Bush and Clinton. And so they were all still there. And so there was a lot of people that were pushing back against it and saying, what is

going on with the federal government? And this is a way for them to essentially shut down the building militia movement and people who are questioning all that, because you question all this stuff. Now we're going to lump you in with these terrorists who killed You know how many people hundred and some odd people? We're going to taint the entire militia movement with that speak to that a little bit Okay, so Andrea Strauss Meyer was a key witness. He was actually a running mate running buddy with McVeigh

We know at least four months up to before the bombing running buddy with McVeigh, we know at least four months up to before the bombing. Strassmayer is brought in from Germany, oddly enough, and we don't know why, we're still trying to figure out. Al Gore asked him to come over from Germany. Now Strassmayer is an interesting character. His dad, Gutte Strassmayer, was the chief of staff for Helmut Kohl, who was the head of Germany at the time. They wanted Strassmayer, who was a washout from the German, basically the German counterpart to the US Rangers and Special Forces.

They wanted him to come to the US and infiltrate these quote unquote Nazi movement groups and militia movements. So we know that in fact he was working for the government for four years, he was no gain, full employment, all of his credit card, his hotel bills, everything was being paid and we did have two members of the Craig Roberts had

Reached out to the Texas militia the light brigade they call them They actually use motorcycles to drive around and these motocross bikes They saw get this they saw a Strasmeier Letting himself in and the loading dock of the federal courthouse in downtown Fort Worth, Texas, punching the keypad in the wee hours of the morning. How the heck would he have access to the back door of the federal courthouse in the wee hours of the morning, knowing the security code? And the Texas militia basically within 24 hours says, get the hell out of town or we're not going to guarantee your safety.

You're going to end up face up in a ditch somewhere. And Strasmeier packed up his stuff and got the hell out. Where does he end up? Oklahoma. And LLM city, which is right on the not far from the Arkansas Oklahoma border, south of Tulsa. And that's where he's hanging out with McVeigh with a lot of these malcontents. We found out we're actually with the ATF, the CIA and the FBI, they didn't even know of the interagency. So there was basically turf wars, the CIA, and the FBI. They didn't even know of the interagency. So there was basically turf wars, eagle wars, they weren't communicating with each other. Just a perfect storm of complete catastrophe. You got all these different government agencies and they're all posing to be terrorists or whatever. And yet they're all federal agencies.

How do we know that happened? There's a pilot that worked for the Oklahoma Department of Public Safety, their state patrol. He's taking an FBI asset over this LOM city and the pilot says, well wait a minute, I just I took somebody from the ATF here about two weeks ago. FBI had no idea the ATF was here in the CIA. That's amazing. That's the involvement with McVeigh and Strauss-Meier. So Strauss-Meier is still, as we know, he's still living in Berlin. And I never pursued him. Wow. It truly is amazing.

And I go back and I hear these, you know, Strauss-Meier and all these names from the past that start to ring bells. And it's so great to have you start to put these things together. And it is time to look at this again. It's time to look at it again even if there weren't wasn't going to be a new investigation but there is going to hopefully be a new investigation. Will there be an update to the documentary presumably on this? Well at this time no David we we're going to put our financial resources to the investigation and And I want to tip my

hat to William Jasper, Jesse Trinadu, Craig Roberts, Charles Key, members of the Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee, two who have since passed away, Hoppy Heidelberg, all of those people helped us. So we had 150 volunteers, 25 core group that helped us put the first film out. If in fact we get the financial resources, yes we would do an update. But now we're really, we've got to focus, keep our eye on the ball, and make sure this investigation moves forward smoothly. Well good, and if you do that we might have a really interesting update to it. Oh yeah. If this comes out into a genuine investigation and more of

this stuff is released. Tell us a little bit about a little bit more about some of the projects there at freemindfilms.com Okay well the second film State of Mind Psychology of Control is the one that you help this promotes. That basically covers the waterfront from basically from the day you're born to the day you die how you're manipulated through education, nutrition, marketing. We go into the do the deep dives on what happens on a daily basis to you and why certain people think the way they do. through education, nutrition, marketing. We go into the, do the deep dives on what happens on a daily basis to you and why certain people think the way they do.

It's a very academic approach. We interview peer-reviewed authors on the subject matter and we try to, and this is a thing that we really strive for in all three of our films. It's not the end all be all, but they're a primer to give you at least the information to decide for yourself. There's a lot of smart people out there, David, yourself included and your staff,

that can really see through a lot of this baloney. And we just try to present the information for not only the younger generation, but the older generation to say, look, just give me something that's credible that these professionals are saying that's been proven You know through time that's consistent pattern of deception we want to be able to be able to recognize that and make decisions of our own and

And then of course the third film was a shadow ring which is a microcosm from right after the Spanish-American War through just before 9-11 and right after the Spanish-American War through just before 9-11 and how these different events, whether it be the Sinclair of Lusitania, what caused World War I, the attack on Pearl Harbor, who were actually the players behind those, and why was there deception, and why were we lied to? Again, give you the information. You decide. We're not telling you how to think, but give you the tools to think for yourself.

Excellent. Okay, so Noble Eye, State of Mind, Shadow Ring, you can find all these at freemindfilms.com. One big favor we do ask, please do watch them on our website. We get paid through the ads. YouTube and Rumble and all of the other websites have pirated copies. We don't get monetized and they're unauthorized. May I give a plug real quick? Absolutely. We're trying to raise funds for this

investigation. Two avenues if you can send a PayPal using the email okctruth at cox.net that's the PayPal account or if you want to send a check directly to Freemind Films do so at freemindfilms.com or freemindfilmsllcom LLC, P.O. Box 16136, St. Petersburg, Florida 33733. Good. All right. It would be greatly appreciated. We'll put those in the description for the show and yeah, hope that this moves forward. It's time that we get, now you've uncovered a lot of truth in this stuff and it should be pretty clear for people. But we need to get this out to a broader audience, and we need to keep at this because they keep getting away with this over and over again, and quite frankly, I know you're tired of seeing them get away with it. I certainly am tired of seeing them get away with it.

Oh, yeah. Absolutely. There needs to be some justice, and hopefully, you know, on this side of eternity, we'll have some justice with this stuff, but we never know. But we'll keep pushing on it. Thank you so much Chris Emory, you've done great work with this and thank you for sticking with this. Again, people can support this research project there. We'll give them the PayPal information in the description as well where they can contribute

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