The David Knight Show - Wed Episode #2151: The Fentanyl Lie Behind Venezuela War
Episode Date: December 3, 202500:09:06 — U.S. Embraces Syrian Terrorist Aligned With Al-Qaeda Knight exposes how a former Al-Qaeda fighter ended up inside Trump’s political orbit, revealing deep contradictions in U.S. foreign ...policy and counterterrorism narratives. 00:10:44 — Manufactured Fentanyl Threat Justifies Colonialist War Policy Knight argues the fentanyl pretext used for Venezuela intervention is fabricated, serving as a cover for resource seizure rather than legitimate national defense. 00:12:30 — Trump’s Open Colonialism: “Take the Oil” Foreign Policy Knight shows how Trump repeatedly advocated seizing foreign oil fields, framing Venezuela as part of a long-standing colonial resource agenda. 00:14:21 — Supreme Court Case May Redefine Religious Liberty Knight highlights a Mississippi street-preacher case that could determine whether Christians must repeatedly violate unconstitutional restrictions before being allowed to challenge them. 00:30:18 — Big Tech and Big Government Merge Into One Power Structure Knight argues that corporations like X/Twitter are no longer private entities but extensions of state power, forming a unified surveillance-regulatory machine. 00:47:22 — U.S. Allies Halt Intelligence Sharing Over Killings Knight reports that countries like the UK and Canada have stopped cooperating after concluding Trump’s naval strikes violate international law and target civilians. 00:59:10 — Leaks Reveal Plan for Long-Term Venezuela Occupation Knight uncovers Defense Logistics Agency documents showing preparations for a multi-year U.S. military presence in Venezuela through 2028. 01:03:10 — MAGA Crowd Cheers Illegal Killings as Political Entertainment Knight shows how influencers celebrate extrajudicial killings, revealing a culture that treats war crimes as partisan spectacle. 01:04:46 — Massive U.S. Military Buildup Signals Imminent Venezuela Strike Knight reviews mounting military activity around Venezuela, arguing the administration is preparing an undeclared, unconstitutional war. 01:07:53 — Nazi War-Crime Parallels: Prisoners and Shipwrecked Survivors Knight draws direct comparisons between the Venezuelan strike and WWII executions of incapacitated POWs, emphasizing the seriousness of Trump’s orders. 01:47:48 — Somali Fraud Network Allowed to Loot Billions Knight covers whistleblower claims that Minnesota officials ignored massive Somali-run welfare fraud due to political considerations, allowing billions to vanish. 02:40:14 — U.S. Follows China Into a Corporate–State Technocracy Knight warns that America’s public–private surveillance, infrastructure, and transportation policies increasingly mirror China’s authoritarian model. Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to https://davidknight.gold/ for great deals on physical gold/silver For 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to https://trendsjournal.com/ and enter the code KNIGHT Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.com If you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.
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in a world of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act it's the david night show
as the clock strikes 13 it's wednesday the third of december year of our lord
2025 well we're going to talk today about crypto what is going on with crypto a lot of
articles over the weekend. Is this the crypto collapse? Is this the bursting of that bubble?
And is it a bubble? So we're going to talk a little bit about that, but also going to talk about
a follow-up to, I guess we call it the Pentagon piracy that is happening because there's
nothing at all that has any basis in law, constitution, or morality that we see happening
down there. And we've seen some very ugly things from the people that are being labeled by
Trump supporters as the seditious six. They basically don't have a foundation to stand on either
in terms of when actually called out. So we're going to take a look at that. Judge Napolitano
called it as it was. And he said, I hate to see this happen. But he said what he thinks.
needs to happen we'll talk about that coming up as well we'll be right back yeah we're going to
have eric peters on today in the third hour looking forward to talking to eric it's been a while
since we talked uh i'm going to begin however uh instead of beginning with the uh problems that are in the
world. I want to go back to the foundation that we really need to recover. And this is something
that is going to be recovered. If it is recovered, it's going to happen one by one. One person
at a time, one family at a time. This is a grassroots recovering of our civilization.
And that is to recover the Christian foundation of our civilization. And yet, we can see some of the
handwriting on the wall as we bring in these different ethnic groups. You think the Muslims are bad?
well you might want to take a look at the Hindus and what they do and what the Hindus do
in India against other religious groups right against the Sikhs against the Christians
especially and of course against the Muslims are all they're both of them are fighting
they're just as bad as the Muslims and we have a case here the Supreme Court in India now
has called a Christian Indian Army officer quote a misfit for the Indian Army
army. Why? Because of his Christian faith. He's not fit to be in the Indian army. And this really
kind of gets to the essence, I think, of following illegal orders. You know, it is, ultimately,
there is a higher source than your military officer, than your law or constitution in your
country. Ultimately, you will be answering to God. This is a Christian officer who had allegedly
refused to enter the sanctum sanctorum of his regiment's place of worship, supposedly for
all faiths, on the order of his superior, citing his Protestant Christian monotheistic belief.
And so he had a pastor who advised himself. That's not a problem. Can you imagine a pastor telling
somebody to violate their conscience? Again, this comes back to, I think, a personal
understanding because you have, you know, Paul talks a great deal about how meat sacrifice to idols.
He says, we may know that it means nothing, but you don't offend somebody who thinks that it does.
And again, you don't violate your conscience.
And that's what this guy refused to do.
He says, I'm not going to go participate in these religious services to seek and Hindu gods.
And we had, that was really kind of the basis of a lot of Christian persecution.
in the uh and in rome at the very beginning uh you just had to go take a little bit of instance
and throw it on the fire to the emperor as an act of uh obedience what's the big deal about that
well christians refused to do it and they died because they refused to do that now two judge
bench on the supreme court comprising chief justice of india and uh another justice um came down
heavily on the officer and called him a soldier who, quote, allowed his religious ego.
Whose religious ego are we talking about here? See, whenever you talk about religious freedom,
it eventually comes down to whose religion? Are we going to have a Christian-based worldview
and religion that's going to be there? Are we going to have secular humanists, for example,
or Hindu, or Sikh, or Muslim? And this is after he had lost. And this is after he had
lost repeatedly at lower courts.
They took it to the Supreme Court.
He had first gone to lower courts in Delhi, and then they took it all the way up to the
Supreme Court, which really slammed him.
They underlined that soldiers cannot prioritize personal religious beliefs.
This case drew massive attention across the country as the undercurrents of religious
divide between the minority Christians and majority Hindus.
in India continue to grow, fanned by Hindu nationalism. And I got to say that this particular
government that is in India right now under Modi, who, when he came to America, he was celebrated
by Congress and by the president and so forth. And Trump has put a close ally of this political
party and this religious group, and that would be Tulsi Gabbard. He's put her in a very
sensitive position. He joined the Indian Army as lieutenant in 2017.
and he was now troop leader of a squadron.
He was dismissed from the army for refusing to enter the Sanctum Sanctorum.
Actually, that was in 2021.
So it took him four years to become a troop leader.
He's been fighting the dismissal since 2021.
He was dismissed for refusing to enter the temple, despite repeated instructions from his commanding officer,
and advice from a pastor that his faith would not be affected.
a pastor who tells you to violate your conscience.
And we had a lot of those during COVID, didn't we?
This is not just an Indian thing.
We had a lot of really bad, quote-unquote, leaders.
So his lawyer in the court said that the officer's faith was monotheistic.
He refused to enter the innermost area because it housed a guru d'wara and a temple.
He argued that his client,
being compelled to perform rituals prohibited by his faith.
So I said, they told him this is the Supreme Court.
Well, you can have your personal belief, but, you know, just, just obey mine first, right?
Keep your personal belief to yourself.
And in terms of what you do outwardly, you have to do what I say.
See, we see these same issues over time.
We see it in different countries and different cultures, but it's always the same
thing. And the name of multiculturalism and being nice to everybody, do what I say. I'm not going to
tolerate you. You need to tolerate me, that type of thing. Remarking that his behavior reflected the
grossest form of contempt and indiscipline, the bench added this type of, quote, cantankerous
attitude is not acceptable in the armed forces. Well, again, we'll be talking about illegal orders.
And this is really where it begins.
Experts are sounding the alarm on the gruesome Christian persecution in Syria.
You know, this is the guy that came to visit Trump in the Oval Office,
has Trump virtue-signaled by what he said about Nigeria.
And he's done nothing at all about Nigeria.
Not that he needs to go to war with Nigeria.
But he hasn't applied any pressure to Nigeria.
I don't know what pressure he could apply.
It's not like they manufacture anything that we buy.
think. And yet, when you look at this guy, you've got a lot of leaders talking about how horrible
the massive persecution is there after Assad has been removed. They said, this is a former
al-Qaeda fighter. He fought Americans in Mosul during the Iraq War. He was commander of the area.
Then, of course, he went to Syria, joined another terrorist group, and that terrorist group ended up
overthrowing Assad. And I would say, with help from the Pentagon, the Pentagon, the Pentegram. I call
Pentegram so often.
Anyway, these evil people in the Pentagon, and I make no apology for saying that, I truly
believe they are evil.
They're evil like the CIA.
And when you look at the fact that they were using A10 warthogs as air support for these
people, that was really clear that we joined with the terrorists.
We've been saying for the longest time that we were working with al-Qaeda in Syria.
I remember when that was said and everybody, oh, that's a conspiracy.
He said, that's not true.
And yet it was true.
We could see the final analysis who gets put in there.
That's what the CIA in the Pentagon does.
That's why when you look at this phony drug war down in Venezuela, give me a break.
We've got, you know, at the same time, Trump is boasting and defending the war crimes and murder that are happening down there of civilians.
They are coming after this imaginary cartel that is supposedly shipping imaginary amounts of fentanyl.
None of that is true.
The fentanyl coming from Venezuela is not coming from Venezuela.
Everybody knows that.
And this cartel of the Suns is a non-existent organism.
But, of course, we've already had a dress rehearsal for all of these lies with a pandemic.
Regardless of whether or not you believe that there was a virus,
and I do not believe there was a virus at all.
They never isolated it.
But you had a pandemic declared when even they said there were only three or four people in the entire country that had an issue.
And China, same thing.
As Gerald Sinty points out, six people, they said.
Even if that were true, that's not justification.
So if they can have all of these draconian measures and lockdowns and everything over a non-existent pandemic, over a non-existent,
virus. And of course, we can have a war over a non-existent organism that is supposedly, but not
really, shipping fentanyl. It's insane. But they've established that we will go along with that
and that there will not be any consequences for them. I've come to a conclusion that religious
freedom is the most sacred human right of all, said one of the people, talking about what's
going on in Syria. He says, think about that. If you don't have religious freedom,
what do you have? Religious freedom is the canary in the coal mine. If you don't have
religious freedom underneath it, you're going to have terrorism. And that's what we see in Syria,
yet Trump has no issue with real terrorists. And this guy is really a terrorist. That's not what
the situation is in Venezuela. And as I said yesterday, playing that clip of Trump saying, well,
you know, in Libya, we should have just gone in there. Where we made the mistake, we should have
gone in there. We should have done a deal with him.
him, even though he's a terrorist, right? And we should have taken half of their oil.
And of course, Venezuela has more oil than anybody. This is classic colonialism. You know, we
see the left throw these terms out, racist, colonialists, and all this kind of, so many times
that it destroys that word. Basically, people get inoculated against it. It's like crying wolf,
except this is really a wolf. This is the wolf of colonialism. That's what colonialism was. You go in,
you overthrow the government and you loot the country of its natural resources.
And that's what Trump is doing.
He's an old 19th century colonialist, a New York City Democrat as well.
But that's what he really is.
And, you know, when you talk about genocide, oh, don't use that word.
That's been used so much.
And yet, when it does apply, they get really upset about that.
So sometimes it does apply.
We have here, meanwhile, in the U.S., and not just in the U.S., but in the Bible Belt, in the south, we have a street preacher talking about free speech and free exercise of religion, case involving a Mississippi street preacher, arrested for sharing the gospel outside a concert venue, has now reached the U.S. Supreme Court, setting the stage for a ruling that could reshape how Americans defend their constitutional rights against local restrictions.
I wonder if the Supreme Court will pay any attention to their precedent of Marsh v. Alabama.
And you've heard me talk about that over and over again.
Just to briefly recap, somebody was handing out religious tracks in the public square in a town.
And the town was privately owned because it was a coal company that owned the town.
And they threw this person out.
This person sued, went all the way to the Supreme Court.
And Marsh v. Alabama and the Supreme Court.
and the Supreme Court said, even if the public square is privately owned, you cannot stop
these rights that we recognize as being basic human rights of free speech and free exercise of
religion.
And, of course, that case involved both a free exercise of religion and free speech.
This one does as well.
But I use that case over and over again because you had Jack Dorsey at Twitter said
at least eight times in congressional hearings, that Twitter was a digital public square.
Musk has said the same thing since about X, you see, after he bought Twitter.
And so that's the principle that applies here.
And it should apply here.
And I'm wondering if they're going to obey that, if they're going to throw that out and set
a new precedent here.
Officers barred him from sharing Christ outside the Brandon amphitheater.
The city forced him into, quote, a designated.
protest zone, designated protest zone. And I've seen this over and over again. Before the Bundy
Ranch thing, I had already talked about the RNC and the DNC, the Republican and Democrat National
Conventions, when they have their presidential nominating conventions. What they do is if you want
to protest that political party at that event, they have a designated protest area. And it is
many, many blocks away from the convention center where they're having their meeting so that nobody
sees them. And they have a cage. And if you want to protest the Republicans at the Republican
convention or the Democrats at the Democrat convention, you go down to that cage and they'll give
you a microphone and a soapbox. And you can scream your lungs out in this remote cage because
nobody will hear you. And they literally are caging free speech. It's
It's an amazing metaphor.
But we saw it again at the Bundy Ranch when I was there.
When we got there, they had cordoned off an area with like some construction.
I don't know.
What do you call it fencing?
It's like really set up usually to stop silt.
You know, when you've got construction going on, they'll put these, this orange plastic stuff up.
Yeah, I know what's fencing.
No you're talking about, but don't know the name.
They had that around the area.
It was first thing Josh and I took a picture of.
And they had a very professionally printed sign that says free speech area.
You know, don't go anywhere else.
You go here.
This is out, and it was amazing how remote this was.
This is out in the middle of nowhere, northern Nevada where the Bundy Ranch was.
And there was nobody up there except for the Bundy Ranch people and the protesters who
are there in a different area.
But they wanted you to go to this particular area.
And somebody put up a handwritten sign that said, free speech is not an area.
It is not an area, but they do it at the political conventions, they do it at other protests,
now they want to do it in terms of religious street preaching as well.
And he said, I just love to tell people about Jesus.
I come to the venue to hand out gospel tracks and to tell people about Christ.
Same situation that was happening in Marsh v. Alabama.
The city used a broad ordinance to push him away from the crowds,
an action that he and his attorney say amounts to viewpoint discrimination.
The Supreme Court is not deciding yet whether the ordinance of the city violates the First Amendment.
Instead, the justices will determine whether he even has a legal right to challenge the ordinance after receiving a conviction but no jail time.
Lower courts dismissed his civil rights lawsuit, claiming he could not challenge the constitutionality of the ordinance because he had already been convicted under it.
even though he never served jail time and could not file a habeas appeal.
This is crazy.
I mean, how in the world can you get convicted of something?
And you don't have a right to appeal that now?
The guarantee of religious liberty is meaningless if we don't have the opportunity to protect those rights in court.
And these are principles that apply for every part of the Bill of Rights.
Under the Fifth Circuit's view, people like Mr.
Oliver must either break the law again or surrender their constitutional rights.
Brandon City officials say that he shouted at passerbys and he displayed graphic pro-life
signs.
Well, actually, what he was showing was graphic anti-abortion, showing pictures of abortion
murders.
You know, pro-life sign would be family having dinner at Thanksgiving or something like that.
This is pictures of babies that have been ripped apart.
by the abortionists.
It prompted complaints, of course, and so the police got involved.
They don't like you talking about murder, do they?
Christian ministries and free speech advocates warn that designated protest zones
are increasingly being used nationwide to push Christian expression out of sight.
And we see this in every aspect.
I mean, you know, when you look at the Supreme Court decisions that hit in the middle of the 20th century,
where they started putting a gag on anybody saying anything about their religious beliefs,
their Christian religious beliefs.
You know, we're talking about the other stuff.
That's fine.
But you want to talk about secular humanism?
You want to talk about evolution?
That's great.
You want to have feminism?
That's great.
But those worldviews are approved, but you can't talk about your Christian faith.
So, you know, we saw that kind of, what it essentially did was to create in the same way
that I was talking about these designated protests on.
it created areas where the First Amendment free expression of religion was not allowed.
So it's kind of, it's now prohibited unless we allow it type of thing.
If they can limit your free speech in a public park, they can take away a fundamental right.
It's absolutely true.
And so do you have the right, this is what the Supreme Court is looking at,
do you have the right to challenge an unconstitutional law before being forced to violate it?
again. Under the Fifth Circuit's interpretation, Oliver and I guess it's Olivier and others in his
position face an impossible dilemma, either surrender their First Amendment freedoms and comply with
a restricted ordinance or knowingly break that ordinance again and expose themselves to fresh
criminal penalties just to gain access to the courts. Constitutional scholars warn the
Supreme Court's ruling could determine whether citizens can still preemptively defend their
religious liberty and free speech, or whether they must endure repeated prosecutions before being
allowed to contest government overreach. It's important to fight against this stuff, but we have
to realize that our rights don't come from government. Government can take them away, the way
Thomas Jefferson said, he said, life and liberty can be destroyed, but they cannot be separated.
that's true of all this stuff. The government has the power to destroy, but they can't really
separate you from God, right? The case arrives when many believers see is an increasing hostility
towards public expressions of faith in the U.S. And it's only going to get worse as we bring in
people from other countries who have absolutely no tradition of tolerance. That is a Christian thing.
Christian students have all faced growing government pressure to stay silent or to stay out of sight.
So, again, whose religion is it going to be?
The secular humanists, plan parenthood and feminism, Hindu religion, what is it going to be?
If the court rules in his favor, it may reaffirm religious liberty does not depend on government permission.
Of course it doesn't.
That Christians do not lose their rights because others find their message uncomfortable.
So we're back into hate speech territory again.
If the court rules against them, local governments may gain expanded authority to
confine or to restrict public evangelism, setting a precedent.
And that is always the case.
You know, when you look at the hate speech, hate speech is just a facade for censorship.
They're going to shut down the speech that they have.
hate. They will call it hateful. Well, I just want to, you know, I want to take a quick break here,
but I thought this was an excellent point here. This is something that I think we've all seen,
but maybe we missed something that's very significant in it. The Charlie Brown Christmas special
is hitting its 60th anniversary, December the 9th, so in about a week. And it was December the 9th,
It's 1965, 60 years ago that it premiered.
And this person who wrote an article about it said that he was in the first grade when they were doing Christmas pageants.
He said, our class performed a version of the Charlie Brown Christmas.
Since I was kind of a bookworm and already had a blue blanket, I was chosen to play the part of Linus.
As Linus, I memorized Luke 2, 8 through 14, and that has been hidden in my heart ever since.
But while working so diligently to learn those lines, there's one important thing I didn't notice, and I didn't notice until now.
I'm going to play a little excerpt of that for you.
See if you can notice a significant thing.
He said, even though Linus' security blanket remains a major source of ridicule for the otherwise mature and thoughtful Linus, he simply refuses to give it up until he gets to a certain point.
Watch this.
Everything I do turns into a disaster.
I guess I really don't know what Christmas is all about.
Isn't there anyone who knows what Christmas is all about?
Sure, Charlie Brown, I can tell you what Christmas is all about.
Lights, please.
And there were in the same country shepherds,
abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night,
and lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them.
them. The glory of the Lord
shall round about them, and they
were sore afraid, and the angel
said unto them, fear not.
For behold, I bring you tidings of
great joy, which shall be to all people.
For unto you is born
this day in the city of David,
a savior, which is Christ the
Lord. And this shall be a sign
unto you. You shall find
the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes
lying in a manger.
And suddenly there was with the angel,
a multitude of the heavenly host, praising
God, and saying, glory to God
in the highest, and on earth, peace, goodwill
toward men.
That's what Christmas is thought about, Charlie Brown.
So did you catch it?
When he gets to the park,
he says, fear not.
He drops his security blanket right there.
So, is it a coincidence?
I don't know.
I think that Charles Schultz was a pretty strong Christian.
That's why he put that in there.
And he got a lot of pushback from CBS for putting that in there in the first place.
So he's got Linus dropping his security blanket right there.
As he points out, he said,
Jesus separates us from our fears,
frees us from the habits we're unwilling or unable to break for ourselves.
He allows us to drop the false security blankets.
They've been hanging to.
Yeah.
The world is a scary place.
Most of us find ourselves grasping for something temporal for security, whatever that may be.
Essentially, ours is a world in which it is very difficult to fear not.
So we'll take a break.
And then we'll come back.
We'll talk about the things that are bad that we do not fear.
We'll be right back.
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Says the Marshview, Alabama case,
destroyed the principal of private property,
leaving its definition in the hands of government. Once it is defined by the government put into
private prop, that's the death of private prop, but anything supported by tax money is public,
open to all the arguing and dissent. Once the government makes something, its plaything,
it becomes subject of the tragedy of the commons. Well, I would disagree with that guard.
I think that what we're looking at here is the fact that our ability to speak and our
religious liberty is something that can't be taken away, not by Elon Musk, not by the
richest of the rich. The purpose of government is to protect our God-given liberties. And that is,
I think, more important than property. I know that Murray Rothbair looks at all human rights as a
property issue. I disregard. I don't agree with that. I think that is simply a secularist,
materialist point of view that he's trying to argue for. So I don't agree with that at all. But
let's talk a little bit about yeah you want to say it is it's the government is there to prevent a
even worse government from taking its place if you just have a power vacuum the person with the
biggest guns is going to implement whatever government they want so it's there to ensure those
rights was the goal of a just government it's uh well i mean from a standpoint i mean you could
say that your your free speech your religious liberty is as murray rothbart says a a a
property right.
So then you have a clash of property
rights that are there. And, you know,
if you have a clash of property rights, if somebody
moves their fence under your property,
you take it to court,
have the court arbitrate
about that. That's a legitimate
purpose of government. One of the few
legitimate purposes of government.
But, you know,
if you want to take the Rothbard
approach, that would be what it is. But I don't take the
Rothbard approach. I think that's trying to
justify
human rights in terms of materialist perspective. What did you want to say, Lance?
Yeah, I was just saying that once these companies get large enough, they start to take on government-like
powers. Like the clock cameras can surveil you in a way that the government is specifically
prohibited from doing. And if they're permitted to do that, it's essentially the same thing.
Once something gets big enough, it becomes government-esque, whether that's by,
financial power or military power, and I feel like the just government is to restrict these things from imposing and limiting citizens' rights.
Yeah. Well, you know, we understand that the whole adage that behind every billionaire there's a crime.
Well, I think one of the things we need to understand is that there's not these two separate groups out there.
It's just like there's not really the Republicans and Democrats.
They have this common agenda.
and there is this regulatory capture issue that we see over and over again,
Big Pharma, military industrial complex and so many different other things like that
where there's a merger.
Just take a look at Elon Musk.
You know, Eric Peters will be coming on later.
And first time I talked to Eric, it was about the fact that Elon Musk became so wealthy
simply because he was a king of crony capitalism.
And so you can use that relationship that you have with the government to make yourself wealthier.
And, and it's really, you know, the socialist Democrats will say that the government can do no wrong and the corporations can do no right.
The opposite approach from libertarians and conservatives is to always champion business and to say that government can't do anything right.
The problem is that we're fighting between big government and big business, we're fighting a unified evil that is there.
They're not two separate things.
They're just two heads of the same hydra that are there.
Got comments here.
Three little birds.
I'm fighting preferred pronoun usage being mandatory in the workplace.
I have the same obstacles you mentioned in this case you discussed.
Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that.
Then there's some disgust as well.
Yeah.
Disgust in D.I.S.G.S.T.
Well, we have a GOP senator says that the report on this kill order.
that came from Heggseth said, quote, shocked us all.
That is Lisa Murkowski.
And she is, again, you know, one of the left-leaning Republicans.
So she's not so much a part of the tribe.
She's kind of independent.
She was asking an interview.
She said, they said, can I ask you about the boat strikes?
Well, the Washington Post reporting, your thoughts on that.
If you think that they were too far, any concern with that conduct?
She said, well, I have spoken out, I think, through my support for the King resolution twice already.
So, yes, I have concerns, absolutely.
Follow up, they said, well, can we talk about the Washington Post story in particular?
There are some folks who say that Hexeth and the commander who ordered the strike are liable for war crimes.
Is that your interpretation?
She said, I think you're talking about the second strike.
Well, actually, I said that about the first strike.
And I said that about the first strike before it came out that in the first strike,
they had turned around.
There was absolutely no way that they were a threat, not to the military that was there.
They were not shooting at them.
They were running from them.
And they were not, they didn't have boats that could come to America.
And they didn't have any fentanyl.
We know that because, I say we know they didn't have any fentanyl because every one of these organizations that has been set up to monitor this stuff has said that they don't have fentanyl.
So why is Trump making a story up?
Well, he got away with it in 2020 with the pandemic.
So she said, yeah, I think it certainly raises that concern.
When you have individuals that are literally in the water, not the threat that they had initially presented, perhaps.
So, yes, I have expressed the concerns and continued to have them.
Thank you.
She said, so the reporter pressed again said, well, war crimes specifically for that act, for that second strike.
And again, there was no declaration of war.
There was no justification for the first strike.
There was no threat against them.
She said, I think, I think what we have heard shocked us all.
And I think most would say that when you have two individuals that are literally floating in the water,
a second order to kill them all is not something that we would consider within the rules of war.
Hegseth on Monday night appeared to shift the blame for the second strike.
to the Admiral, Mitch Bradley, and this is why the first guy probably got out, because he knew
that was going to happen. They were going to shift it down to away from Trump and War Pete, his
sidekick. They're going to shift it down to the guy in charge of the area, which is what
they're doing. And, of course, I don't know, will he be able to shift it down to people below him?
Will he do that? But then he comes on, he says, but he is an American hero, a true professional,
has 100 percent my support. I stand by him. What they reminded me,
me of. And Britt Hume said, this is amazing to see how he's throwing this guy into the bus.
But when I read that, it reminded me of Brutus's speech from Julius Caesar, where he's, sorry, Mark
Anthony, where he's talking about Brutus. He says, yes, he lays out all these different issues
of Brutus. And he says, yeah, Brutus is an honorable man in almost a sarcasm type of way.
So he pretends to praise him, and yet what he is doing is he is setting him up for the mob.
Several Murkowski's GOP Senate colleagues have raised concerns over the same strike on survivors,
but told reporters on Monday that they wanted to see further video evidence of the strike
and audio of the moment that the order was given before weighing in.
I just have to say, I spent a lot of time on this in the past,
and I'm doing this because I think this is a central issue.
this is a very important we all look at the military industrial complex and how it is out of control
in this country and they have spent money and blood over and over again on wars that could best
be described as hoaxes right look at the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 9-11 and the
Vietnam Gulf of Tonkinism and over and over again and when are we going to learn when are we
going to push back in this particular war. Not only are they obviously lying to us about all
of the basis of this thing. It's not a war. They weren't being threatened. Everything about this
is a lie. And so we need outy. It is a podcast. It's all a lie, damn it. Everything is a lie.
And that certainly is the truth about this particular case. And this is an opportunity for us to
call out the military industrial complex. And it needs to be, it needs to be highlighted. Now,
you got Mark Kelly says that the DOT didn't mention the second strike on the boat. They said
the congressional briefing was very evasive. He said they didn't say there was a second
strike when they briefed us on the first one in September 2nd, and they didn't share all the
information. Rubio and Hegseth had briefed a group of top congressional members behind closed doors
in November, and Kelly revealed the General Counsel for the Defense Department had seemed, quote, evasive,
despite a bunch of questions from lawmakers, he said.
Well, the problem is that when you ask Mark Kelly, he also gets evasive on this stuff.
U.S. Defense Secretary says he did not see any survivors before the follow-up strike on the drug boat.
Now he didn't see anything, right?
Schultz from Hogan Ceros
I know nothing
I see nothing I don't see it
We were just blowing up the water there
That's right
We were fishing with ballistics
Yeah
Yeah there's something very fishy about all this
And it is a fishing expedition
They're still fishing for a reason to be there
And to take the oil
What? There were people in the water we blew up
That's right
so he didn't see any of this at all right except again this is not about the second strike
I think you know they want to make this about the second strike fine but it was really about
the first strike as well the first strike was not would not have been justified even if they
weren't turning around but then when they were turning around you had a lot of former jag
people said oh that's a very different situation now and they're not a threat it's the same
principle, as I said, if somebody breaks into your house and they're coming at you, you are
allowed to shoot them in self-defense. But if they grab your television, set and are running out
with it, you're not allowed to shoot them in the back. Same thing is true of police, supposedly,
and we see the police get away with this all the time, but you're not supposed to use lethal force
against somebody when they're not a threat to you. And yet, that is especially true of the military
because of the lethality that Higgsath likes to talk about all the time.
Problem is he has focused so much on lethality that he pays no attention at all to
legality, right, or to morality.
So he said he did not personally see any survivors before a deadly follow-up strike
on a ledge boat in the Caribbean.
How many times are going to change the story?
You know, first he said, well, we had to do a second strike because we're worried
about debris in the water being a threat.
to shipping.
The remains of this boat that they just blew the smothering is going to be a problem for some
of the big military ships that are there.
There might be some atoms that get in the way.
Amazing.
Hegseth attributed the strike to the fog of war in a chaotic situation.
Well, the problem with the fog of war argument, which is basically the way that had McNamara
excused what he was doing in Vietnam in the Gulf of Tonkin.
lie, the falsifying lie that got us into that war. The problem is that you're all fog and no
war because you don't have a justification. The Venezuelans have not attacked us. Trump wants
to pretend that the smuggling in a fentanyl is an attack on us. Even if they were smuggling in fentanyl,
that's not an attack. And all the conservatives who are saying that it is are simply lying to cover up
for Trump. But they're not even smuggling in the fentanyl. Trump, for his part, also defended
Admiral Bradley, although he distanced himself from the decision to strike the vessel second time,
saying, we didn't know anything about that. I know nothing. And I can say this, I do want those
boats taken out. And we're going to start doing it on the land as well, right? That's what he's saying.
So I guess they're going to start blowing up boats on the land.
And, you know, you have to drop bombs on Venezuela because they might build boats at some point in time of the future if you don't bomb them to smotherines.
So, Hegseh had gone on Fox News just hours after the no-survivorviv's boat strike and bragged, I watched it live.
So, okay.
Heg-Seth bragged on Fox News that he watched in real-time the controversial boat strike that he is now distancing himself from after Revelation.
that two survivors were subsequently killed.
Again, it turned around.
So he would have seen that.
He can't say that he left before that was seen
because he was there before they dropped the bombs.
Heck, Seth was blamed for giving the order for initial reporting,
but his sense pointed the finger at the admiral
while claiming to fully support him.
And that's what Brett Hume said.
said, he, quote, tweeted Hegseth's post, and he said, this is how you point the finger at somebody
while pretending to support him.
Early in the day, Hume had said on Fox News that the story could be, quote, a big problem
for the Trump administration.
It should be.
It should be.
Ryan Goodman, a former general counsel for the Department of Defense, said that if Hegseth
ordered everyone on the boat killed, then the secretary is ultimately responsible for the
can strike, regardless of Bradley's involvement. And, you know, Trump is responsible for sending this
massive armada down there, right? I mean, you know, they're sending these troops down,
and then there are at the same time saying, you do what I say, whether it is legal or not.
So if there's not a legal war, you still have to kill everybody if they tell you to kill
everybody. So Trump and Hegseth are saying, our orders are to kill everybody. And then
when they kill everybody, they say, well, we didn't order that, you know, you ordered the troops down
there. You ordered the troops to kill. You are complicit in all of this. I'm from Marilago, and I say
kill them all. Worst case scenario is what the Washington Post is reported, what CNN reported,
which is that Secretary Hegseth is the one who told Admiral Bradley that he wanted to ensure that
there would be no survivors. That is the worst case scenario. The best case scenario for him,
is that he gave some instruction to Bradley, who then interpreted it to mean the very same thing.
But that would also hold Hegseth responsible.
Again, it would also hold Trump responsible because Trump's the one who sent them down to do that.
He's getting very serious about it.
He's canceled Christmas leave for these people.
So, again, the fog of war, when the quote-unquote war has not been declared and it's unjust.
to start with it's not going to get a declaration but they're not going to do that they're just
going to do it illegally uh free thought project says blowing up boats won't stop fentanyl ending the drug war
will and i agree with their general thrust here because um and i've said this many times
one of the things that happens when you have prohibition and of course they don't want to call this
prohibition. They want to call it a drug war. And I think that there is a reason for that. It's not
just that, you know, they got a war on poverty. They got a war on this. They got a war on that. They like
to have czars about the drugs czar and all the rest of this kind of stuff. However, I think it's very
important for them not to call it prohibition because that would highlight the fact that there's no
constitutional authority for the drug war. You had to have a, you had to have a special amendment to the
constitution to prohibit alcohol and then a second one to bring it back the 18th and the 21st
amendment it's easy to remember that because those are the drinking ages in various states 18 and 21 so
the administration calls the people killed narco terrorists says a free thought project and this is
actually an article from john vibes says that the strikes are necessary to protect american
lives from the fentanyl epidemic however the coast guard statistics suggest this is what
Rampao said he's about a quarter of the time. It's very specific.
27% of the suspected drugboat searches come up empty.
Figures have shown that fentanyl is not exported to the U.S. from Venezuela.
It's all a lie to justify regime change, and it's not even a good one.
And, you know, it's not even just regime change.
I mean, this is what the left has always been screaming about with colonialism.
There is a point in time.
which these words do have meaning.
And if you're going to overthrow the country so that you can steal the oil,
which is what Trump has said over and over again,
he said about Libya, he said it about Syria,
and that's what he's doing in Venezuela.
He's wanted to do this for a very long time.
The strikes have triggered unprecedented pushback from America's closest allies,
for example.
The UK has stopped sharing drug interdiction information with the United States
because the British officials concluded that these strikes violate international law
and they amount to extrajudicial killing.
The UN's human rights chief said the same thing.
Columbia's president said the same thing after an innocent fisherman was blown up there.
That was a Colombian citizen.
He ordered his security forces to suspend intelligence sharing until the attacks stop.
Canada has also made a...
clear, that it doesn't want its intelligence used to target boats for deadly strikes.
Even within the U.S., and that's a key thing, because you know, look at Canada and the
UK, they're part of the five eyes, you know, the five intelligence agencies or the, you know,
the five eyes of Sauron.
They're looking at us, and they share intelligence on everything, but now they're pulling back
and saying, we, this is, we don't even want to have anything to do with this.
It's kind of like, you know, what they did with, the Royal Family did,
Jeffrey Epstein, going to several ties of this. This is too hot for us. And yet, you know,
Trump just soldiers on. He's going to cover for Epstein. It's amazing. Even within the U.S.
military, the operations provoked serious concerns. Admiral Alvin Holsey, who commanded the U.S.
Southern Command, oversaw the strikes, raised questions about their legality during a tense October
meeting with Pete Hegseth. He offered to resign, and then he stepped down.
after just one year in a position that typically lasts for three years.
When your own admiral quits over legal concerns and your closest allies won't share
intelligence because they think you're committing war crimes, you're probably committing war crimes.
Think about that.
Venezuela plays essentially no role in the fentanyl crisis.
The State Department's own research shows that Mexico is,
the only significant source of illicit fentanyl reaching the U.S. Fentanyl is almost exclusively
smuggled over land from Mexico, not by boat through the Caribbean, and not across the Canadian
border. Think about the lies that Trump has told us to create conflict, lies about fentanyl
coming from Canada, and how he fomented conflict by saying, we're going to take over a Greenland.
That kind of disappeared, didn't it?
The boats coming from Venezuela carry cocaine, and most of that cocaine is headed to Europe, not to the United States, because European prices are higher, and enforcement is weaker.
The administration is killing people off in the Venezuelan coast.
Listen to this.
To stop a drug that doesn't come from Venezuela in boats that are not heading to the U.S., and they are killing them in a war that doesn't exist, claiming that they are throwing.
claiming that they're threatened by people who have been shipwrecked and are clinging to a burning
boat.
I mean, this is literally the example that is used in the American textbooks to tell the military,
you do not shoot at people in the water when they've been shipwrecked.
They're no longer a threat.
They're out of combat.
And according to the Nuremberg Treaty and other treaties that we've signed, that is a war crime.
And so everybody knows it's a war crime.
Everybody knows it's a lie.
Also, we have to think about, you know, these are boats that are probably loaded with cocaine, and they're headed to Europe.
The European techno scene is suffering right now.
We're not going to get any good techno music for who knows how long.
And this is something we need to be concerned about.
This is another, this is something else that other people aren't considering.
We need to think about these things as well.
Well, again, the administration's killing people to stop a drug that doesn't come from Venezuela and boats that are not headed to the United States.
is 4D chess.
Maybe it's four-dimensional lies.
Maybe that's what we're really getting from Trump yet again.
It's beyond stupid, but he got away with it.
He got away with it in 2020 with the pandemic stuff.
And he had the press, same people who were covering for him on this, covered for him on that.
Don't worry.
It's not the bad vaccine that Gates wants.
It's the sugar water of this there.
Come on, you can take a little bit of aluminum and mercury being injected in your veins.
That's not a problem.
I know I told you for 20 years.
that's a problem said Alex Jones but now it's not because it's Trump so everything is fine and because
you know we were against wars in foreign countries like Iraq and everything but now this is Trump
Alex Jones is trumpeting the the fact that we've got to go to war with Venezuela we need not
just overthrow the regime but we need to go back to 19th century colonialism the mismatch between
their rhetoric and reality reveals something important about the drug war the actual flow of
has never been the point the war on drugs has always been about control and you know we look at it from our
perspective what prohibition does is it corrupts the police it corrupts the courts they want the
police and courts corrupted they don't want to have due process they don't want to have any limits on
what they do about anything they love this idea of militarized police that's what darrell gates did
in L.A.
He was the one who started these SWAT teams
and the armored vehicles
and everything. They love that kind of stuff.
This is their excuse.
All of these, everyone in government basically
wants to be their own
petty little dictator. So if they can get
their own militarized SWAT team
or police force underneath them,
they would be pinning
medals to their own chest if they could.
They'd be walking around like any one
of these third world dictators you see
with the epaulettes and the chest
loaded with metals.
That's every single one, anyone
in your local city or town
or all the way up to Congress and the president.
That's what they want. They won't admit it,
but that's what they desperately want.
And cops love to just steal stuff
and not have to go through any legal process,
which is what civil asset forfeiture is.
They love the no-knock raids
and the militarized raids and all the rest of this stuff.
People use hard drugs
because they're looking for an escape
from stressful, painful lives.
They're self-medicized.
for trauma or for economic desperation, for mental health conditions that go and treated because
they can't afford care, or because the stigma makes them afraid to seek it.
Attempts to cut off the supply do nothing to address why people want these drugs in the first place.
All it does is to make the drugs more dangerous.
And before we talk about how they get more dangerous, understand, you know, this article here on
Free Thought Project is looking at this from a purely secular standpoint.
but understand it is a spiritual issue i mean these people are missing the fundamental issues in
their life and so they're looking for some substitutes for god and it is a poor substitute
and that's why i say it is you can say it's a medical issue but i think at its heart it is a
spiritual issue that is there and as i've said before i've talked many times a law enforcement
against prohibition leap and um these are for the most part they don't talk about it while they
still have the job. They get out, they retire, you know, they're no longer a prosecutor or a judge
or a police officer. And so now they talk about how futile and useless and corrupting the entire
war on drugs has been to the part of society that they were working in the institutions that
they were in. And they point out that this is a problem that is, again, you can say it's medical
or psychological, but it is spiritual. And you're not going to solve that by,
using this hammer of law enforcement.
So how does it make drugs more dangerous?
As he correctly points out, when you crack down on supply, you don't reduce demand.
You just push the market towards more potent, more dangerous substances that are easier to smuggle.
And this is not a theory.
We had seen this before, I've been saying this for decades now, because I've been pushing back against the drug war for decades publicly.
And we saw this with alcohol prohibition.
what happened you know prior to alcohol prohibition most people were drinking beer or wine which have
much lower alcohol content that all shifted to harder forms of liquor and even dangerous
improvised forms of liquor cause people to go blind and that was a result of prohibition
it started moving people to harder liquor overall it really shot up why do they do that well as
they point out, it's easier to smuggle stuff that is more potent and more dangerous.
And that's how we got fentanyl in the first place.
As enforcement made heroin harder to move, traffickers switch to fentanyl because it's 50 times
more potent, meaning that you can smuggle the same number of doses in a much smaller package.
Every escalation in the drug war has now made drugs deadlier because you don't always get
the dosage right.
don't always cut it down right.
And that's how people overdose and die.
So is this something that is, you know, we're going to go in and we're going to throw
out this imaginary cartel.
Well, the U.S. is planning to keep troops in the Caribbean through 2028.
This is noticed by a military reporting site that saw the documents from the Defense Logistics
Agency.
They've been contracted to supply large amounts of baked goods, including wrapped honeybuns, vanilla cupcakes, and sweet rolls.
There we go.
Junk food for a junk war.
We take our American cuisine with us.
Honeybuns and vanilla cupcakes.
We're playing a long game.
We're going to poison the Venezuelans with honey buns.
But in about 20 years, they'll be so obese and sickly.
They can't fight back.
We'll drop them from planes.
Anyway, so a long list of stuff.
But that was at the top of the list, literally in the article.
They're dropping it for the Puerto Rico zone.
From November of this year to November of 2028, junk food for a junk war.
And this is supplies for the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines, and Coast Guard.
That's earmarked for this area and for them being there.
The U.S. military has already amassed 15,000 troops in the Caribbean, including 5,000 sailors aboard
the USS Gerald Ford, aircraft carrier, which has more than 75 attack, surveillance, and support aircraft.
Trump has paved the way for the invasion of oil-rich Venezuela, again, actual colonialism, not a misuse of that word.
Trump has provided no evidence of Maduro's involvement in drug trafficking.
There's little evidence that this cartel even exists.
This is a zero-hedge article.
I mean, everybody knows this.
everybody who covers this says all of this is a lie there's no fentanyl there's no cartel there's no
there's no declaration of war there's no threat again he got away with these kinds of draconian
measures he went to war with us with a lockdown and the pandemic lies based on pandemic lies
and a non-existent not isolated virus the procurement's length of time and the level of effort
seemed to point to these operations continuing at the current level for several years.
Well, you know, they said over and over again, I remember reporting this, people in the Pentagon
saying, we're going to stay in Afghanistan until 2050 or whatever.
You know, I mean, they wanted to be there for another 20 years, they were saying.
And it doesn't always work out that way, does it?
We're not in Afghanistan now.
that was a total unmitigated disaster.
I don't know, even though when it's asymmetric warfare, they don't have a big,
they don't have a way to defend against this aircraft carrier, but we don't have a way
to put boots on the ground and take all their oil, I think.
It's significant because it means that the Navy will maintain a large presence in the
Caribbean that is far larger than what it has been in recent years.
It further implies that the Navy will be involved in these counter-drug operations.
And again, as Marky, Mark in New Jersey said, when he was on naval vessels, they had to have the Coast Guard people that were legally trained to do this.
They had a strict protocol about how you would do interdiction, how you would handle all of this, and they had specialists who handled all that.
Well, yesterday I talked about Megan Kelly, and I think this is something that needs to be focused on again, complaining that Trump is not.
causing these people to die slowly. She said, I'd really like to see them suffer. And I think
that she needs to get called out for what I think is the most reprehensible take I have seen on this
from anybody in politics or comments from the left or the right. I think Megan Kelly has the
most disgusting take on all of this. I really do kind of not only want to see them killed in the
water, whether they're on the boat or in the water, but I'd really like to see them suffer. I would
like Trump and Hexseth to make it last a long time so that they lose a limb and bleed out a little.
Like I'm really having a difficult time ginning up sympathy for these guys who 10 seconds earlier
almost got taken out by the initial bomb, but because they managed to get ejected, you know,
a little too soon, had to be taken out in the water.
I realize legally it may make a difference, but truly, Mark, this is a tough case to really gin up
the sympathies of the American people.
Wow, really?
really. I'm really having a difficult time taking her, I've got to say. She does understand,
of course, that Trump and Hakeseth are responsible for this, right? But she has no problem with
that because she likes that. This is a person who's never seen war. She's never even reported
on war. This is a person who had never even heard of civilized set forfeiture. She doesn't
know anything about the drug war. She doesn't know anything about real wars. She doesn't
understand the consequences of these things that she's talking about. And she has absolutely
no moral compass whatsoever.
That video is utterly insane to me.
It's the type of thing where it's so absurd,
it almost feels like satire,
but she's being serious.
It's,
you know,
you can tell because she's like,
oh,
I just want to see them suffer.
She's not taking it to some absurd point
where she's trying to be funny with it.
She's not saying something like,
you know,
I really wish we could make it worse for them.
You know,
like what if we blow them up
and then drop sharks in the water around them?
You know, really scare them.
She's not alone.
I've seen this over and over again on social media.
And we got MAGA out there cheering this stuff and cheering this illegal war, this colonialism, this piracy that we're doing and murder.
And I see people over and over again putting this stuff up and saying, I voted for this.
They love this.
They love this.
They love this.
As it appears that an American strike is coming within days.
These are photos of the B-52 Stratafortress, America's biggest bomber.
and these are photos that the U.S. has released off the coast of Venezuela.
Right now, the only plane in the sky near Venezuela is an American spy plane.
20% of the entire U.S. Navy is near Venezuela.
And a second aircraft carrier has shown up alongside B-52 and B-1 bombers.
This is the largest military buildup America has done since the Iraq War,
and it is the largest naval build-up since World War II when America fought Japan.
The firepower off the coast of Venezuela could potentially turn the capital into rubble within
hours, as the amount of explosives on these American ships is just mind-boggling.
We do know that the CIA is operating in Venezuela right now.
There have been routine simulated strikes from Puerto Rico with bomber jets toward
Venezuela, and each time they veer off at the last second.
All it takes is one day for Trump to give the green order, and they're not going to veer off.
I've seen this post head over and over again.
Like, ooh-rah, yeah, go for Trump.
That's what I voted for, right?
you voted for this massive waste of money waste of life you voted for the CIA to conduct its wars
and for Trump to boast about it you voted for that and you're stupid enough to to to to boast about that
on social media you know better than Megan Kelly these people it is a sadistic evil and yeah I voted
for that I want to see that happening great let's kill everybody right it's that same attitude
Pete Hegseth is one of them, okay?
He's like these Yahoo's out there who are posting that video.
And that's what you wind up with.
You wind up with war crimes and mass murder because that's all this is.
Heg Seth had denied.
He personally ordered the strike.
So that may get Hegseth off the hook, said Kelly.
But she thought it was, quote, kind of annoying to even debate it.
Yeah, who cares about the legal issues?
You know, who cares about any of this stuff?
I mean, so what?
You know, if you've got the power, you just do whatever you wish.
You kill whoever you want.
And, you know, remember, I referenced this yesterday, the Great Escape,
where they finally catch some of these guys and remember what they did to them.
Surprise, I expected either a long stay or a very short trip.
Yes.
I have to admit, I'm a little worried that I have, to God, I haven't blotted 70-odd ledgers.
Oh, no, no.
We're all over 21, foot loose and fancy free.
We'd never have got as far as we didn't without you, Roger.
For what is worse, I think he did a damn good job.
I think we all do.
At that point, they separate to go their different areas.
because they're going to kill them all.
These are people who are prisoners.
They are out of combat.
Just like people who are shipwreck
are out of combat.
We've all understood that you don't murder those people.
It was something that the bad guys did.
What is lost for Sylvie?
All right, you can get out now.
Switch your leg for five minutes.
It'll take hours before you reach the camp.
So when I see people like Megan Kelly, Pete Hegseth, and these people who say I voted for this,
I got to say, Travis, are we the bad guys? Hans? Hans, are we the bad guys?
It's a baddies.
All this, the organization tunneling, Tom and Harry, can be alive.
Even though we...
I've never been happier.
You know, Meg?
To which Megan Kelly, when she saw that movie, I guess.
I wanted to see them suffer.
I wanted to see them bleed out longer.
They were killed too quickly, right?
Well, maybe they were just firing the guns and didn't realize that they were going to be hitting people there.
There was no order given to shoot the people.
They were just shooting off some rounds in celebration.
I'm sure the commander left before the machine gunist actually did it.
I didn't see anything.
I know nothing about this.
She said, our armed forces should not commit war.
crimes. Yeah, there you go. We should like, you know, not commit war crimes, I think.
Like, maybe. She checks her notes to say, yeah, we shouldn't commit war crimes. That's a note
to sell here. But she said, I also feel like I object to even the scrutiny of this event
because it's all kind of manufactured. She said, the criticism was only being done to retroactively
justify the video by Democrat members who called them, who Trump has called, and she
She's called the Seditious Six.
InfoWords calls them that as well.
Who had posted a video urging troops to refuse illegal orders.
And look, I understand.
You know, we've seen Mark Kelly, former...
They posted like a video saying don't follow illegal orders.
Now they're trying to see if the orders are like illegal.
And that's crazy.
Well, we've seen Mark Kelly, who is a former Navy officer and pilot.
and we've seen a retired CIA person.
And when they've been asked point blank by reporters,
what illegal orders have you seen?
Folks, it is all illegal from the very beginning.
I've said that over and over again.
I'll just repeat it one more time.
And yet both of them will say,
I haven't seen anything.
We're just concerned because of the rhetoric
that Trump has used that he might do this in the future.
So they back away.
Now, when you look at that,
and, you know, Megan Kelly knows that this is illegal.
She has no problem with it.
So she understands that this is partisan stuff, right?
In other words, Mark Kelly and this CIA Democrat senator,
they don't care about the principles of a just war.
They don't care about a declaration of war.
They don't care about war crimes.
If it was a Democrat president, they would be fine with it.
And I'm sad to say that.
But the message needs to be still, it's still true.
You do not follow illegal orders.
And that includes going out to fight a war that is based on a false flag and that the government has been conducting in a way that has absolutely no regard for the lives of their troops or civilians.
As I've said many times, I wasn't going to go to Vietnam.
It ended before I had to make that decision.
But I would have gone to jail or another country.
No way I was going to kill people for that government.
For Richard Nixon, Henry Kissinger, no way I was going to go kill people for them.
They rejected my objection, but they weren't going to make me go fight.
War is when you kill the people they tell you to kill.
Revolution is when you figure it out for yourself who the enemy is.
You could also just say that since war hasn't been declared,
that by necessity, all these orders are technically illegal.
No matter what they're telling you from the very beginning.
But even if you stipulate that they were there legitimately in a legitimate war,
which is a huge stipulation, the way they have conducted this from the very beginning is illegal.
Mark Kelly, she said, his video was based on nothing.
She said it is a fishing expedition, as if Trump is not on a fishing expedition blowing up fishermen in Venezuela,
trying to find a reason.
They're trying to find something to accuse Hegsteth of doing.
Here's the big problem.
You know,
when they go after Venezuela or Vietnam,
and as I said before,
we probably get caught in this quagmire,
we should call it Vinaynom or something.
I'm partial to Vietzuela.
Yeah.
But, you know, when they go down there,
they do these kinds of provocations,
and they're hoping, I guess,
that they can go the other side
and to actually,
shooting back or something, but they don't have anything to shoot back with. And so that kind of
has backfired on them, the fact that they're not getting any conflict out of these people.
So she said, so I really kind of not only want to see them killed in the waters, you heard,
whether they're on the boat or in the water, but I'd really like to see them suffer. I would
like Trump and Hegsseth to make it last a long time so they lose a limb and they bleed out.
Again, that she learned this sadistic dominatrix act with Roger Ailes or something?
I mean, this is disgusting.
But she also note that she understands that it's Trump and Hegsa.
We're ultimately responsible for this.
You would think she would at least have the common sense, the good sense,
to shut up about something like this.
No.
To not say this.
Part of it is I think she wants the publicity.
You know, the whole thing.
I mean, I've heard Roger and Alex Jones say this all the time.
or Stone, there's no bad publicity, the old axiom. They really live by that, right? I don't care
whether it's true or not, and I don't care if it's bad. I want the publicity and whatever I have
to do to get it. Megan Kelly is the same way. I mean, you've heard her learn to curse like a sailor
because every time she does it, she gets headlines. Look at what she said, right? And they quote her.
So she wants that. So on CNN, they had a legal analyst. Yeah.
Also just go to show, like very frequently in history, we see that the most,
bloodthirsty and cruel individuals turned out to be women when they were given power for some
reason you know they have this sort of disconnection from it so the monstrous regiment the women
as John Knox said well I think to just generalize that it's always the people who are not
going to be part of the fight and their kids are not going to be a part of the fight either legal
analyst Ellie Honig said on Monday in a word they were illegal as they corporates
principle of the rule on the law of war that you cannot target and kill people who have been
rendered incapacitated or defenseless. That conflicts with the Geneva Convention. There was a group of
Judge Advocate General, Jag people, former military attorneys who came out with this statement
over the weekend saying these acts would be patently illegal. Colonel Cedric Layton just told you
15 minutes ago on air that it would be illegal. If you look at the Department of Defense's own
manual on the law of war. Listen to this. It uses as an example of something that would be illegal
this exact scenario. It says that if you have survivors of a shipwreck, they cannot be targeted
because they are incapacitated. It's no different than what the Nazis did to the great escape
prisoners, folks. And if we accept the principle that we can slaughter civilians, that we
We can slaughter people after they're out of combat, even if they were soldiers at some point.
Now they are shipwrecked, incapacitated, prisoners, just kill them.
That kind of evil government will turn on all of us.
That kind of tyranny is going to come home against all of us.
Judge Napolitano weighed in on this.
He was on Fox News.
Actually, no, he wasn't on Fox News, but he said, you know, he worked at Fox News for four years
of Pete Hegseth. He said, it gives me no pleasure to say this, but he should be prosecuted for
war crimes. He said the people below him are in the military, and they should be court-martialed,
but Hegseth should be prosecuted for this. And he's absolutely right. Hegseth is so focused
on lethality, lethality, lethality. He doesn't care anything about legality, as I said before,
or morality, the higher moral law,
which is if he's going to put Christian tattoos all over himself,
maybe he ought to think about that.
Maybe he ought to learn something about what he professes to follow
and the person that he professes to follow.
The principles of just war were formulated by Christians,
and he should brush up on that.
Do a little bit of remedial reading.
He also needs to look at the war manual
that defines what war crimes are.
Trump, again, says,
I want all those boats taken out.
And if we have to, we'll attack on land also.
Again, he doubles down.
The pirate king of the Pentagon.
Maybe what they should do, you know, the casting around,
they can't call their football team the Washington Redskins anymore because that's
politically incorrect.
They call them commanders.
So maybe they should call them the Washington pirates.
I don't think there's a football team.
I've not really paid attention for several decades there, but I don't think there is a Raiders,
I think still, but in Oakland.
We're out of our depth here, folks.
So that name is already taken, but I think Pirates is available.
I think there's a baseball team called the Pirates or something.
I'm not sure.
Called the Orange Skins and have that all implied.
The Orange Skins.
That's right.
Piracy implied.
Rades implied.
And while I said before that Mark Kelly,
who has been given a golden opportunity to go up against Donald Trump when Donald Trump is 100% wrong.
He blew the opportunity, just like this CIA senator.
He still can't identify any illegal orders, he says, from Trump after the video message to military personnel that they said,
do not follow illegal orders.
12 days after telling military personnel that they must disobey illegal orders,
Mark Kelly of Arizona
appeared on NBC's Meet the Press
and still couldn't name
an illegal order from Trump
He's not trying very hard actually
I could on a whole list of them
Trump accused the gang
now known as the seditious six
of sedition
This is coming from the New American
And I've got to say I do not agree
With the tone of this article
The tone of this article
From the New Americans, Mike Kirkwood
Also it's a little bit
poorly written you know now and as the seditious six accused them of seditions like oh really is that what
he accused them of the seditious six well you notice how they call them a gang uh you want to see a
gang go look at pentagon that's the murdering gang that we're talking about here while medal
of honor recipient dakota mayor said that more than once that the group was confusing young
enlisted personnel we don't want to confuse them we don't want them to have to think about law
and morality when they're out they're just follow orders right nurember
style. Politicians warning troops about illegal orders that haven't happened is the same as yelling
fire in a theater. Reckless, dangerous, and meant to scare people, she said. Well, the actions in the
Caribbean are all illegal from the start. There's no declared war. There is no justification to
declare a war. So you can start right there. Many veterans noted that troops don't need to be
reminded that they cannot obey illegal orders, says the new American article. I disagree.
It looks to me like they do need to be reminded. I mean, they just murdered people floating in the
water. I tell you, I just, I look at the conservative movement, and I despise them as much as I do,
the lefties out there who are trying to groom little kids. They have different crimes that they do,
you know, and both sides, the leaders are into pedophilia.
and rape.
But they have different crimes that some of them want to mutilate children.
Others want to mutilate people who are in the water.
You tell me the difference between the Republicans, Democrats.
I had some person said, you know, David Knight just hates everybody.
I hate these politicians.
I got to say, I despise what they do.
Well, so this is looking forward, said Kelly.
They said, what specific orders has he given that are unlawfully?
So, well, this is looking forward.
I'm not going to, you know, second.
guess him on this illegal colonialism that he's got going on down there in Venezuela. We know that
it's about the oil folks. There's no question about it from the very get-go. He said, but let me give
you a pass, an outline of things that he has said. In 2016, said Kelly, Trump said that
the U.S. military will follow his illegal orders. He was given, he was said something on the
debate stage and was reminded that that would be illegal. And he said the military will not refuse
his orders, regardless of whether they're legal or not.
You know, the same way that he said, I could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue, and these people
would still follow me.
He said, I can give illegal, illegal orders, and the military will still follow me.
And then he goes and gives illegal orders.
And then he does shoot people not just on Fifth Avenue, but everywhere with his poisonous
vaccine.
Anyway, he said, the military will not refuse his order, regardless of whether they're legal or not.
He also talked about shooting protesters in the legs.
How un-American?
How unconstitutional is that?
Fortunately, there was a Secretary of Defense that stopped this.
He's also talked about sending troops into U.S. cities to use those cities and people for training.
He said, so this is a simple message.
Follow the law.
And it was looking forward.
They did a follow-up question to him.
This is a Velker on Meet the Press.
She said, well, let me talk to you about some of what's happening right.
right now, the Washington Post reporting that Heggseth gave an order to kill everybody.
Are you calling for U.S. service members to actively disobey orders like those?
He said, well, if orders are illegal, not only do they not follow them, they're legally required not to follow them.
So do you think that constitutes an illegal order, she asked?
Well, I think that needs to be investigated.
Seriously?
you as a senator don't have the courage to call this out.
How do you expect people, the rank and file guys who are out there,
how do you expect them to have the courage to stand against this?
I've said this over and over again with people, with parents who say,
well, I'm sending my kids to school to be salt and light to the other kids in the school.
I said, do you understand the circumstances that are there?
They're not on a peer-to-peer relationship with a teacher.
and there's a lot of peer pressure against them,
but there's also this authority figure pressure on them.
You're sending them into a spiritual war.
They haven't been properly trained and equipped for.
We don't use child soldiers.
That's right.
And yet, you know, here is Kelly saying,
well, I think soldiers need to push back against orders
when they're in the field,
but I'm too afraid to even criticize what Donald Trump has
has already done, not even what he has proposed that he could do.
So, again, you're required not to follow these orders, just like the Nazi machine gun guy,
okay, he's the one who actually killed them.
He's responsible, but so is the guy who gave him the orders responsible for that.
He says, as for what I would happen to military personnel who refused to obey orders
that they consider illegal, Kelly admitted that that would be their problem.
he doesn't have the guts to do it but he expects him to ask whether he would obey in order to sink a drug boat
Kelly said he's never questioned an order during his career and he had he said attacked boats during
the first Gulf War and again he has also never questioned an illegal Democrat war
he has never questioned the unconstitutional drug war either he is a man who has no courage
And neither does this CIA senator, Alyssa Slotkin from Michigan.
She was asked, so do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal orders?
He was asked that on ABC News.
And she said, to my knowledge, I'm not aware of things that are illegal.
There you go.
So they are writing checks that they are afraid to cash.
They're telling other people to do.
Illegal.
What's that?
I work for the CIA.
I don't know about things that are illegal.
Yeah. If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
The Admiral who ordered the follow-up strike on the alleged drugboats is going to brief lawmakers tomorrow.
So we'll see what happens with that. Talk about that on Friday.
The U.S. military is becoming more and more religious, however, as the nation remains more secular and moves in the opposite direction.
That all begs the question as to what is religious, right?
Is it attending church? And that's what the metric is here.
They look strictly at church attendance.
What percentage of people go once a week?
What percentage of people go once a month?
What percentage of people go more than once a week to church?
A number of military personnel who attended church weekly is increased from 21% in 2010 to 28%.
And this is looking at a demographic that is increasingly moving away from church 18 to 45-year-olds.
They looked at the people who are not in the middle.
military. They said during the same time period, the number of surveyed civilians who attended
Church Weekly stayed at 16%, while those who attended more than once declined from 9% to 7%.
So they said, the devotion of military members has gone up while the rest of the population has
moved more secular. I guess it's because, as they say, there's no atheists and foxholes.
You know, but when you look at church attendance, there was a lot of talk about the fact that Warpeep was a part of this church plant in Washington, D.C. from Doug Wilson.
And I've got to say, there needs to be some accountability there.
There needs to be some instruction as what's going on because it's more than wearing your faith on your sleeve or tattooing it on your arms.
You are not following the way.
You're not following Christ.
when you do this and we need to call this out whether it's people who are excusing genocide
for the israeli government or it's people who are uh excusing these war crimes
for the pentagon i'm not going to have any part of it and i hope you don't either we need to call
this out if we profess christ we need to call these people out for what they're doing i don't want to
see this done in my name you know there's a lot of people who are jewish who don't like what
But Netanyahu is doing in their name.
And I don't like what the American government is doing in my name.
I don't support this at all.
Some people are excusing it's Venezuelan war,
these war crimes and it's colonialism,
just like they defend the Gaza genocide.
And, you know, you can throw these terms around like genocide and colonialism and stuff.
But in this particular case, the shoe fits,
and we should make them wear it.
You got some comments.
That's right. Three Little Birds says I refuse to use pronouns was fired for it from a top five worldwide company.
It was defended by Littler Mendelssohn, the largest employment law firm. Well, good luck with that. Good luck.
I'm sorry about that. Yes. Thank you for standing on your principles. Yeah.
That's the key thing. You know, and I'll just say to you that I've seen, I've talked to so many people after what has happened in 2020 and 2021 where Biden was,
using economic pressure to get corporations to force this injection on people.
And the military was doing it as well.
And I've talked to so many people, the ones who don't have regrets are the ones who did not cave.
And many of them wound up, it's not a guarantee, but many of them wound up with better
circumstances than they would have had if they'd remained at that company.
So sometimes, you know, it's like we tell kids when they're dating, you know, sometimes
if you get rejected, you might look back at that.
at a later date and say that was a good thing I really dodged a bullet there I didn't realize it I've had in my life many things that I really thought I wanted and looking back on I realized just how bad and harmful that would have been if I'd actually gotten what I wanted defy tyrant 1776 says DK don't you think the seal team who murdered the people clinging to the boat wrecked it should be put on trial for murder yes the court-martialed yeah yeah absolutely that'd be the approach as in the
said, you know, the war crimes, that's what you should put Trump and Hegseth on trial for.
The military people from the admiral on down to the people pull the trigger.
They should be brought up on court martial because the civilian law does not apply to them.
So, yeah, I agree.
He says, it's not the order givers who are the most responsible.
It's the order followers.
Yeah, I mean, that guy didn't have to pull the machine gun trigger when he shot the prisoners who were.
no threat to anybody, right?
Though I would say that I think it's the other way around that ultimately it's the order
of givers that are the most responsible and it's not just to go after the followers and not
the givers.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Solo cat in 1980.
Yeah, it rots from the head down.
It really does, yes.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Says Trump and Higgseth don't want any survivors from their boat strikes.
I'd be able to testify against them.
Dead men tell no tales.
That's right.
that's right absolutely right but they did pick up one survivor after one of these
incidents but i do think that's a big part of it dead guys don't prosecute wali walrus you have to
declare war before there can be fog this is the fog of perpetual conflict uh executive action
what are we call so bogus says when was war declared and like we were saying three little
it says it was declared in the fog.
Got lots of fog.
Lots of fog.
It was scaring everything.
Yeah, Trump does get a little bit foggy at times, doesn't he?
Actually, there was an article done about it.
And it was like the funniest thing I've heard Colbert say, and I can't remember when.
But they were talking about the fact they got the MRI and people were asking Trump what
it was and goes, I don't know what they did it.
It wasn't the brain.
I passed those cognitive tests with flying colors and everything.
And then you had his physician come out and say, well, men, his age, we like to get an MRI of general cardiovascular and abdominal health and things like that.
And so, Colbert said, you know what else is good for the health of men, his age?
Retirement.
I thought that was funny.
Anyway.
Brian and Deb McCartney says drugs of mass distraction.
Yeah.
Trump Burger.
I can guarantee there were no drugs or money.
there was no drugs or money was on the boats the CIA would have taken that off first
that's funny yeah you want to go after the real source of all this stuff it's not the cartel of the
sons it's the cartel of the intelligence agencies out there the CIA yeah the cartel of the
SOVs defy tyrants 1776 government trying to stop people from hurting themselves by
willingly willingly taking harmful drugs yet forced them to take deadly vaccines
LOL can't make this crap up.
Well, they want to be the ones to get you.
That's a good point.
Yeah, the symmetry.
I've talked about how in many ways this is like 2020
and what Trump was able to do
with all the absurd lies that he pushed to people
and yet, you know, going to kill you by forcing you to take drugs,
but they're going to kill other people
supposedly to protect the people who are willingly going to take these drugs.
That's the amazing thing.
Of course, CIA running the...
poppy fields so they could have flood the country with an opioid epidemic nobody connected the
dots to that in the mainstream media or most of the alternative media either
pezzanobante 1776 bottom line a government unbound by the chains of the constitution and armed
to the teeth is much more dangerous than any scourge of drugs i agree a Syrian girl it's so absurd because
she is sucking up to the dc criminals i don't believe kelly has any normal human
empathies there for sale to the highest bidder yeah i mean you could kind of see that
there. She doesn't have remorse
and she doesn't even have any excitement.
She's just saying things.
She's just reading off a script.
I don't think she believes anything she says or ever
has. She wants attention.
She wants attention. That's the reality
of it. She'll do anything
for it. Say anything for it.
Possum King. Kelly did illegal
bombing himself.
Yeah, exactly. I never
question any orders. I kill anybody they tell
me to you. Just tell me who, where,
when. New Republic Rising
The truth is there is a buildup of a culture of disregard for ethical combat law.
It's championed by heroic special forces types, and it comes along with mission creep and
undeclared unlawful conflict.
Yeah, when you look at what the seal teams are really set up to do, they're set up to go
kill people without any declaration of war.
And that's basically where this all comes from.
It's a real, we all look at it.
It's amazing what these guys can do.
But it's a, it's like Michael Crichton,
Jurassic Park, you know, just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should do it, right?
You should have those skills to be great if you're using it defensively against people that are
actually attacking us.
But if you go out there playing James Bond, killing people that we've not gone to war with,
people that are not even a threat to us.
Again, going back to that mission in 2019, where they killed all of those North Korean
fishermen just because they're afraid they might say something, you know.
Wally Walrus says, my son is.
is 23 and he is getting ready for the army because he sees no future and is seeking financial
security. Gen Z sees no future for themselves. Yeah. Yeah. It's a hard time. It's been slowly getting
worse and worse. Gen Z is now at that age where some of them are, you know, fully out of high
school and getting out of college and they just, they're realizing, oh, everything I was promised
is a lie. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to talk about that when we come back. The mom and pop businesses are
going bankrupt at a record amount.
And, of course, this is-
But the economy's doing great.
This is part two of Trump's attack on Middle America and Main Street.
He loves Wall Street, but he doesn't care about us.
We're non-essential.
Hi. Boost says, this is literally WMDs all over again by the same war-mongering GOP,
making up a fake boogeyman to start a fake war.
And, of course, who was it that sold all the stuff and who oversaw the torture and then
covered it up. Gina Haspel. And who did he, who did Trump make his head of CIA during his first
administration? Gina Haspel. So he campaigns and saying that, you know, the Iraq war was based on a
bunch of lies. And the other politicians were afraid to say that, just like Mark Kelly is afraid to say
that this operation down in Venezuela is illegal. So the other politicians were afraid to
to say that it was a war based on the lie. Trump says it. And then he puts,
the liar-in-chief in charge of the CIA.
Hi, Boo, says Dick Cheney is upset.
He isn't alive so he could participate.
Yeah.
And he says, is Tony Blair and W. Bush advising Trump?
Yeah, that's right.
Same as it ever was.
They're set up to make a lot of money off of what's going on in Ukraine,
these other places.
Once the shooting stops, they will go in with their reconstruction stuff.
We're going to take a quick break, folks, and we'll be right back.
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Well, Bloomberg reports,
So mom and pop business bankruptcies hit a record as debts rise.
Well, the debts rising is an effect, not really the cause of all this stuff.
And it's kind of interesting.
They said that there was, and I wasn't aware of this, I knew about the CARES Act and
these other things that were supposedly going to help people who are losing their jobs
and people were losing their small businesses because they didn't have access to unlimited
amounts of capital on Wall Street.
You know, these people operate outside of market realities.
And I know that firsthand because we operated for a very long time against Blockbuster Video.
As soon as they were bought by Viacom, the parent company of CBS and Paramount, they never turned to profit.
And they continued to operate for 20 years.
And they operated with very predatory policies against mom and pop stores where we were.
they would pick one store and they would open up right in front of them everywhere.
They'd spend fabulous amounts of money to buy an out parcel so they could get in front of the
store that was already there in line.
And they did that to put people out of business.
And they were able to do that even though they were losing money.
And so when Trump said mom and pop stores were non-essential,
What he was essentially doing was recapping what Hillary Clinton said when she was trying to push through Hillary care.
People said, you know, small businesses are going to be killed by what you're proposing.
She said, I can't be bothered by all of these undercapitalized small businesses, you know.
So if you're little, who cares?
Not Hillary, not Trump.
And so as Trump was pushing this lockdown and the first wave of massive disaster for Main Street and mom and pop,
They also were very kind to put in a federal program that was designed to help the smallest American businesses cut debt and get a fresh start to help you to declare bankruptcy without going through the bankruptcy courts.
You could have something that they called a subchapter five made it cheaper and faster to go through bankruptcy rather than having to go through the existing structure that was there.
Wasn't that nice of them?
You know, Trump does the lockdowns and says that you're non-essential.
And then they set up a new way for you to declare bankruptcy to streamline the process.
Isn't that nice?
Maybe what they were thinking of was how to streamline the process so they didn't clog the bankruptcy courts.
And so now that has been in effect for six years.
Going back to when Trump did that back in 2020.
Now high borrowing costs, cautious consumers and the Trump administration's
Trade War are weighing in on the earnings for the small businesses.
Again, we said this is going to happen from the very beginning.
It's pretty obvious.
Year to date, these subchapter 5 cases have increased more than 8%.
2,221.
At the same time, Chapter 11 petitions are up about 1%.
To a little more than 6,000.
And so the subchapter 5 program began in 2020 as a way to let individuals and small businesses
with less than $7 million in debt,
avoid the cost and delay of using the traditional reorganization process.
So they come in and they say,
you're not essential.
You will own nothing.
But, hey, we're going to make you happier.
We're going to take away some of the paperwork for you going bankrupt.
How about that?
That's the way that Trump helped people.
You know, this whole CARES Act thing?
Massive, massive fraud.
And yet, apart from the overall fraud,
aspect of it was the fraud of Trump saying that it was relief for small businesses more than 50%
of the money went to less than 5% of the applicants and it was the big businesses that got the
lion's share and I reported on this over and over again as it was happening in 2021 2021 you had these
people who had small service businesses retail type of thing mom and pop stores and they said they
couldn't get anything from the banks. Meanwhile, you got the, they redefined, Trump redefined
what, the definition of a small business was. So small business, before that was a business that
had fewer than 500 employees and said, well, we'll make that fewer than 500 employees per
location. So all of his hotels qualified for it. Isn't that nice? Well, the Trump tariffs are
also going to make toys more expensive this Christmas shopping season. Baumbug, I guess we go from
orange man to green man to orange man right
grinch the in trump's first term he exempted many
Chinese toys and household items from tariff hikes this time
they're going to be subjected to a 30% import tax and it is
amazing how the amount of toys that we saw when we were
in China we went to a what was that toy market I guess but it's like
giant warehouse with all
these individual vendors that were there.
It was amazing. I've never seen anything like it.
Yeah, just they had all their little stalls set up and they were just packed in.
And we bought a lot of little trinkets and stuff so that we could, we knew it was going to be
difficult for her daughter because she didn't speak English.
We couldn't explain to her what was happening.
She's going to be on a very long plane flight.
And so Karen planted out and bought all these little trinkets and she's going to introduce
these new toys to her a little bit at a time on the trip back.
We had to go through TSA and TSA confiscated every single.
one of those toys. Don't you love TSA? I mean, it's just fantastic. And as they're pulling these
things out of the bag, she's looking at him like, oh, you know, and no, you can't have that
throwing it away. And that started her off right there. Anyway, Santa Claus might be able to evade
customs checkpoints in TSA as he magically snuggles toys into the country. But I don't know.
We're going to get the customs and border patrol after him. Maybe they'll show up the next day with a form
telling you that you got to pay the tariffs on it.
How about that?
I'm sorry, is this from the North Pole?
What did Trump put on the North Pole?
I mean, he did have, remember McDonald's Island?
I remember that because it's like,
hey, Trump eats there, doesn't he?
But he put tariffs on McDonald's Island,
which has nothing but penguins, I think.
Why wouldn't he tariff the North Pole,
even though there's no Santa Claus there, right?
This year, when they do that phony thing
where they track Santa Claus around,
you're going to have Pete Hegseth come on
and just be like,
shoot him down!
shoot him down now kill everybody yeah the and then meg and kelly kill everybody it'd be like
the beginning of scrooge right where they have do you have any idea how many magical reindeer
he had pulling his slate you don't need that many if you're just delivering toys not only that
but look at all the elf slave labor we could have that slave labor here in the united states what's the
matter we can't what's the matter with people that they allow that to happen anyway imports from
China, where the basic toys and most of the basic toys and games are made, will now be subject
to a 30% tariff. And guess what? That's going to be passed on to you. He put a 15% tariff
on Japan, and lo and behold, it's just a coincidence, I'm sure. Nintendo said that they are
going to be raising prices by 15%. Hmm. But they don't pass the tariffs on, right? They absorb
them. It's going to be paid by Nintendo. It's going to be paid by Japan. No, it's going to be paid
by the consumers.
It's a tax on you.
One of the biggest tax increases in the history of America.
By this tax and spend Democrat from New York, Donald Trump.
Anyway, maybe the children, he said,
we'll have two dolls instead of 30 dolls,
says the man who played house with little girls and Jeffrey Epstein.
You know, it just,
so again, he did call out Tim Walts,
not for being a criminal, but for being retarded.
I guess he's retarded because he got caught, right?
So now a Somali run election scheme is breaking on local news there.
You've got a lot of people, whistleblowers, saying that they told Waltz about this,
but they were shut down.
Many of them were threatened over this stuff instead of action being taken.
Benny Johnson tweeted out, he said over 400 Minnesota Department of Human Services employees
have accused Governor Waltz of ignoring widespread Somali.
community fraud warnings and retaliation against whistleblowers.
After months of reports that whistleblowers were ignored or punished,
and after the state watched more than a billion taxpayer dollars disappear into the
black abyss of shell nonprofits and fake meal programs, waltz is officially under investigation.
Washington was forced to step in because Minnesota's own leadership refused to protect
its citizens and its money.
And I imagine, you know, a lot of this money is coming from Washington so they can say that it was mismanagement of federal funds.
A major House committee and the Treasury Department have opened investigations and the early statements coming out of Congress are, well, quite blistering to say the least.
And one person, Kevin Dalton, has said, well, I know everybody's angry about Tim Walts and the billion dollar welfare fraud in Minnesota, but I find it strange that nobody.
seems to be talking about the $50 billion in welfare fraud that Gavin Newsom has amassed in
California. We'll just wait. They will be talking about it, probably waiting until they get a little
bit closer to the election. That's the same kind of thing that they did with Hunter Biden's
laptop. And we knew about that long before it became a mainstream Republican narrative. And they did
that. They did it too late. And then, of course, it got covered up. And if they had done it earlier,
they might have been able to fight back against the mainstream media and the government cover-up of
the Hunter Biden laptop issue. But they probably do the same thing when Newsom wait too late.
You've got to pace yourself when revealing your enemy's scandals. The American public has such a short
attention span. If you start talking about Gavin Newsom now, by the time he's actually a threat,
no one will care anymore. He's already inoculated against it. Nothing.
happens to these people they simply get trotted out and the public looks at him and goes oh yeah that was
bad yeah it's kind of and then they go back to whatever they were doing two schools have thought about
that you know one of the schools of thought is that well we're going to drop this on like election
night eve you know some scandalous thing about somebody they did that with uh i think it was john
mccain they made some statement about how he had a illegitimate black baby or something like that
which was uh totally mischaracterization of of what it happened or i don't know if that was him
anyway they do that type of thing you know wait to the very last minute like you're in some
kind of an online auction you know we need to put in the bed we got to sniping with a scandal right at
the last second uh but the other part of it is if you're going to throw out something that's got a
little bit of splaining to do uh you better give yourself enough time to spain it and you better
give yourself enough time to countersplain it when the other people come back with their
excuses for it uh GOP senator is saying that the Minnesota governor should be jailed over
these fraud allegations and this is tommy i think it is tubberville i'm not sure if it's tuber
tubber i think it's tubber i think somebody corrected me with that um i don't listen to
tv news i just read it so i sometimes don't understand um how to pronounce these names i put
the emphasis on the wrong syllable with some of these people but if they want their names pronounced
correctly they should have them spelled phonetically he said um tim waltz is directly responsible
all uppercase, for the all uppercase $1 billion in fraud that is funding all uppercase
Islamic terrorists.
Oh, that's true.
And then, you know, we look at this.
Lou Rockwell had an op-ed piece about hate speech, made it on to zero hedge.
He said, you know, what is hate speech?
Well, and we're told that it is negative remarks about various groups, including women,
blacks, homosexuals, Jews, Muslims.
can it, it's alleged, have a negative effect on members of the group who hear or who see the speech?
And it encourages people to hate them, and it cements negative stereotypes about them in people's minds.
Free speech may have some value, they say, but whatever value it has has been outweighed by the evil of the hate speech.
Almost any group can claim to be victimized by hate speech, except for,
white, heterosexual males, and Christians,
but hate speech applies primarily to members of these so-called protected classes.
Lou Rockerel says, from a libertarian standpoint,
the question of banning so-called hate speech is a no-brainer.
You don't do it.
Banning any kind of speech, whether it's good or bad,
is incompatible with a free society.
Yes, that's absolutely true.
As a matter of fact, we had Trump.
Here's his definition of hate speech that he gave us just recently.
And what do you make, Pam Bondi saying she's going to go after hate speech?
Is that, I mean, a lot of your allies say hate speech is free speech?
She'll probably go after people like you because you treat me so unfairly.
It's hate.
You have a lot of hate in your heart.
Maybe they'll come after ABC.
Well, ABC paid me $16 million recently for a form of hate speech, right?
Your company paid me $16 million for a form of hate speech.
So maybe they'll have to go after you.
Yeah, none of that is true.
It just shows what utter contempt Trump has for the Constitution Bill of Rights, doesn't it?
What does it say in the Bill of Rights?
Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech.
As Lou Rockwell says, no law means no law.
But of course, these laws have you got executive orders like Trump.
Or if you can do lawfare like Trump.
Or if you can use the FCC to threaten and blackmail people into settling with your personal lawsuit.
That includes laws against so-called hate speech.
And we're in a difficult situation with it.
So, you know, we'll talk about what's going on.
Javier Malay converted to Judaism and not just any Judaism, but to the Chabad Lubavich sect.
And he has switched around Argentina from being.
one of the biggest critics of Israel to being one of the most fawning followers of Israel.
And so he's coming up with something that he calls the Isaac Accords, coming after the Abraham
Accords again, right? I wonder who's going to be sacrificed in the Isaac Accords.
But, yeah, he knows where his bread is buttered, and he's going to be able to get a lot of money
and other things from Israel for pushing their interests.
As a matter of fact, I look at this,
and I think perhaps this is the answer as to why this guy
who is hanging out with Trump and Trump likes him and everything,
but look at what Trump did, how the Trump administration gave him $20 billion
and said, and we're going to arrange for another $20 billion
and private funds to be put together.
Maybe that's going to be some of the Jewish billionaire friends of Trump
to put together money for them.
But perhaps that is why he gets such special treatment and moves to the front of the line instead of anything being done for the farmers or for the ranchers in this country.
And I think that I've not seen anything about the alleged promises of helping the farmers who've been hurt by this trade war that Trump has created.
you had trying to come back and agree to buy some more soy soybeans from American farmers,
but that lasted for like a week or so, and then they stopped it again.
So it was just virtue signaling to Trump so he could declare a victory.
But he puts Israel first.
He puts anybody who is an ally of Israel, head of the American farmers and ranchers.
The Isaac Accords are being promoted in partnership with Washington.
They're modeled after the Abraham Accords, which normalized relations between Israel and several Arab countries, including the UAE, Bahrain, I should say, and Morocco.
Malai said Argentina would serve as a, quote, pioneer alongside the U.S. to promote the new framework to other Latin American countries, including Uruguay, Panama, and Costa Rica.
So there you go.
This is the kind of colonialism that the Israelis do.
Our colonialism is what you see happening in Venezuela.
We just go in and kill everybody and take the oil.
They have a much more subtle way of buying influence and buying control of other countries.
Foreign Minister of Israel, Gideon Sarr, praised Malai's love of Judaism.
He said that Malai transformed Argentina from a critic of Israel to one of its staunches supporters.
That was actually said by the times of Israel.
He was raised at Catholic, but he is now converted to Judaism and is paying off handsomely for him.
There you go.
There's how Israel is blessing people.
They bless the politicians who do what they say.
They bless them with money and other things.
Bless them with underage girls and Mossad agents and all kinds of wonderful goodies, I'm sure.
That's right.
Argentine officials said that possible joint projects with Israel
in the fields of technology, security, and economic development are already under consideration.
They'll teach them how to surveil their people and control them.
Well, there's an op-ed piece on RT from Rachel Marsden,
the Epstein Israel link that nobody wants you to take seriously.
While trafficking young girls, he was also part of the effort to export military-grade
systems to governments around the world. And that's what this is really about, these Isaac
Accords, right? They're going to pay off Javier Malay with this kind of stuff. It's just more of
the Jeffrey Epstein issues. She said, when I first moved to New York, I walked into my new
dentist's office, and I generally wondered whether I'd accidentally wandered onto a
victorious secret audition. The, was Jeffrey, was Jeffrey there, Lex Wexner?
I don't know.
Which rich Jewish potential pedophile was it?
Who knows?
The waiting room, she said, was full of stunning young women.
Eventually, I learned the dentist shared space with a modeling agency.
You couldn't tell who was getting veneers and who was getting a contract until they were halfway down the hallway.
Epstein's whole operation was like a perverted crossover episode of Law and Order meets House of Cards.
The salacious half got all the airtime.
But the geopolitical part seems to have largely ended up in the cutting room floor.
Jeremy Scahill's drop site news recently published inbox receipts showing that in 2006, Epstein teamed up with lawyer Alan Dershowitz to smack down, quote, the Israeli lobby and U.S. foreign policy, unquote, by John Meersheimer and Stephen Walt.
Dershowitz wrote that the rebuttal, wrote the rebuttal that he called debunking.
the newest and oldest Jewish conspiracy. So John Meersheimer and Stephen Walt do the Israel
lobby and U.S. foreign policy, and he does the rebuttal. Epstein blasted it out to his rich
and powerful pals, perhaps a little light reading en route to Epstein Island, or while being
rubbed down by a member of Epstein's harem. The moment anyone points out that a certain foreign
government might be exercising influence, there's always someone who starts shouting about
bigotry and playing the race card.
And I've said it before and I'll say it again.
If you criticize a government, that is not racism.
And we're criticizing the government.
And there are Jewish people who criticize Netanyahu and his government.
As a matter of fact, he just had to make the case that he wants a pardon.
And why is that?
He's asking the Israeli president for a pardon.
Trump has asked the same people to,
pardon Netanyahu? What is it that he's doing that he needs a pardon for? And again, it's
internal issues. He was not very popular in Israel. He's much more popular on Capitol Hill.
The seven richest billionaires are all Zionists who are using the CIA to control the media,
says Brian Shulhavi. Alan McLeod of Mint Press News has written about another excellent
investigative report focusing on the current big tech billionaires,
who are all buying up legacy corporate media companies.
Again, this is Larry Ellison,
and he has not only bought the Paramount stuff
and all the subordinate properties there,
but he's moving to also get Warner.
And that would be CNN.
He's angling for CNN here.
This is the new conservatism.
There's attempting to silence any opposition
to their Zionist agendas.
A handful of votes.
us determine what will be on the evening news in the broadcast, or for that matter, in the
New York Times or Washington Post or Wall Street Journal. Indeed, it is a handful of us with
this awesome power, strongly editorial power. And that is coming from Walter Cronkite, who said
that. We have to decide which news items out of hundreds of available we are going to expose
that day. And those news stories available to us already have been called and recalled by persons
who are far outside our control.
Well, Walter Cronkite said that.
At the same time, he was really participating
in the Operation Mockingbird stuff.
So is this a cry for help?
Was he blinking?
He's like, help, I'm under control,
blinking in Morse code to tell people
that he was under the control of the CIA.
Well, the Paramount Skydance,
the Ellison-owned company, of course,
has moved very quickly to put a very
strong Zionist in charge of their news organization, Barry Weiss. And this is going to be a
consolidation of media like we have not seen before. You know, we remember years and years ago,
we talked about how there was like five companies and how there used to be dozens of news
organizations all consolidate down at that point in time. Five companies that were getting the studios,
You're just like, you know, VICOM had Paramount Studios and had CBS as well.
So you saw that kind of consolidation.
Now they're moving to bring into the consolidation tent social media.
But, and that's what Olson is working on as well now.
But not just that.
But then taking these conglomerate holding companies that were already really concentrated,
and then taking over another one of those like Time Warner,
CNN companies and he wants to take that over as well. It's really amazing when you look at how
consolidated it is to become and how they are going to control information. So we really do
appreciate your support here. We try to do the best we can to stay out of the mainstream media.
We look at what they have to say. We question it and we should all question with critical
thought what they have to say. But the narratives that are going to be generated, it's going to
to be a very difficult time for anybody to be heard.
And so we really do appreciate your support.
And we're going to take a quick break.
And I have some names that I want to read as well before we take the break.
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we do our best we can but uh i do have some names here that i remember and i have uh seen these
names over and over again because it's usually the same people who contribute to make this
program go people like gretchen thank you very much uh alexander w marise g july w mary more
Sean Savka
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Rose G. Julie W.
Gregory I. Benjamin R.
Michael P.
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These are people who contributed on Zell.
Susan L. Michael P.
Sally O.
Mitchell M.
Michael P. Gretchen C. again.
Amy B. Peter.
Adam D.
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was, I've seen your name here many times, so that was a very generous contribution.
I appreciate that at the end of the month.
Ronald H. Maryland G. Ryan F., Janice W., William W., William W., and M.
Michael L.
Thank you so much all of you.
And that is,
those are people who have contributed on Zell.
And I had not mentioned their names until since the beginning of,
since the beginning of November.
I can't reach this thing here.
And Karen just handed me people who have contributed in terms of checks.
And Joni S.
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I appreciate that.
That is, I believe.
was that? Karen didn't write that down, but I believe that a new contributor and a very large
contribution, I believe. That was the name that was there. Matthew H. Lois L. and Gary B.
Thank you so much. Those are people who contributed by checks. And while we're here doing the
roll call of people who produced the show, because that is what produces the show, the people
who write the checks.
I want to thank those on Cash App.
It's a short list who contributed on Cash App this month.
Christopher, Jason J., Dustin W., Brian P., Jeffrey A., Francis E., Dave W., Hollis H., thank you very much.
And the bottom line is that we finish the month just over 80%.
And so I really do appreciate all of your support.
It worked out much better than we were thinking was going to work out.
And that came in at the very last part of the month.
And so we really do appreciate that.
Thank you very much.
We're going to take a quick break, folks, and we will be right back.
Let's see.
Oh, yes, and we're going to be right back with Eric Peters, who is our guest.
So stay with us.
We're going to talk about mobility and liberty, which we should always be thinking about.
We'll be right back.
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Eric Peters of Eric Petersotos.com.
A real soulmate when it comes to the issues of liberty and mobility, as these companies
like to call it, but, you know, it's really driving cars is what we think of.
We think of mobility.
I'm not looking at getting into some self-driving taxi, and I'm not looking
I don't think of that as mobility.
I think a mobility as being able to use a car to go where I want, when I want,
and not have to follow a schedule from some mass transportation thing
or get into a car that's owned by these corporate conglomerates.
But thank you for joining us, Eric.
Oh, thank you, David.
I always enjoy being here.
And by the way, whenever I hear that word mobility, I almost think of people in wheelchairs.
I'm a hard guy.
Well, I enjoy driving.
Well, they want to break our legs, don't they?
They sure seem to want to.
And it's really something, you know, when I think about how this country has changed in that respect,
just over the course of the last 40 years, you know, when I was in high school, most guys loved cars.
And a lot of girls liked cars, too.
That's right.
Now, you know, they have succeeded so effectively in alienating people from cars.
I get it.
You know, they've become appliances.
They've become soulless.
And on top of that, they become just impossibly expensive for ordinary people to even consider buying anymore.
So no wonder people are turning off to cars.
And that's unfortunate, getting us back to this whole idea of mobility, which really just means, as you said, being able to just go where you want to go without being leashed, you know, without having to take your hat off and beg for.
Yeah, there was a song about that, you know, got to go where you want to go, do what you want to do.
Yeah, what happened to that America.
Yeah, what happened to that song?
We don't hear that anymore.
It's kind of like the other thing we used to say when I was younger, people would say,
Somebody say, well, can't do this?
And it's like, hey, it's a free country.
You don't hear anybody say that anymore, do you?
No, I don't think I've heard anybody say that since probably 9-11.
That's 25 years now.
But that's, you know, at least that's a sign of psychological health.
At least people aren't so deluded as to think that we still live in a free country.
That's right.
But they are deluded enough to think that they should make a federal case out of everything.
That was the other thing.
Hey, don't make a federal case out of it, you know, if somebody's making a big deal out of it.
But now we make a federal case out of everything.
Every problem must be solved and managed by government, and it has to be done by government
at the highest level, and not even that, but now it has to be done by the president who will save
us from all evil.
It's this messianic figure.
You know, I was just talking yesterday about this article out of the Atlantic, and they were
talking about a study that was done by some people on the UK.
They came the same conclusions that Strauss and Howe did about the fourth turning.
They went back 5,000 years of history.
One of the things they said was, you know, the corruption and the decay and institutions,
but also people start getting very messianic about their leaders.
And I thought, yeah, that's what I see all the time about MAGA, you know.
It's got to be Trump.
He's got some special mission from God.
You know, he's specially anointed and all the rest of this stuff.
It is truly amazing.
They're so desperate for a Messiah that they'll even project that onto somebody like Donald Trump.
I know.
It's crazy.
Sometimes it's jaw-dropping.
I'm a professional writer, so usually I'm not at a loss for words.
But when it comes to Trump, I often find my jaw hitting the floor, and my eyes boggle like Cash Patel.
And I, what am I going to even say about this stuff?
That's right.
It truly is amazing.
Well, you told me when we were just connected, and you said there's some interesting news about Miata that I don't think I'm going to like.
What is that news?
Well, just some background.
The Miata's been around since 1989.
They introduced it as a 90 model, and it has been, for many decades,
one of the most successful models that Mazda has ever brought out
because anybody who's driven one will tell you.
It's just, it is one of the most enjoyable, fun cars that you can possibly get and drive.
The problem is that it's gotten to be pretty expensive.
The current model, 2025, the base price is nearly $30,000.
To put that in some perspective,
back in 1990, it was just over $13,000. Wow. Now, granted, some of that is inflation,
and some of that, of course, are what I call compliance costs, you know, having to have
multiple airbags in the things and all of the other stuff that's been added to vehicles
that has been raising the cost. People talk about inflation, and of course, that's true,
but the thing that's important to understand is that people's earning power hasn't tracked
with the devaluation of buying power. That's really what inflation is. So back in 199,
regular Americans could afford to have two cars or even more.
They could afford to have the fun car.
They get the Miata as the weekend car, the track car, the fun day car, right?
Summer car, yeah, yeah.
But they also had, you know, you got to have something that has more than two doors
and more than two seats if you've got kids.
You've got a family.
You're going to need something that's practical.
So they would buy the practical car for that purpose, but they'd have the Miata for fun.
Well, now things have gotten to be so tight that most people can only afford one car,
if they can even afford that.
So there aren't many people left who can still afford a $30,000 fund car like a Miata and a $30,000 crossover on top of that and the cost of insurance and everything else that goes along with it.
So what are they doing?
Well, when you're faced with the choice between the practical and the fun, most people are going to have to pick the practical.
That's just the way life is.
So it's not that the Miata has lost its appeal.
The problem is that there are not enough people anymore who can afford it to sustain the car as a viable enterprise for Mazda.
apparently that's why they're thinking about canceling it. Wow. Well, I got mine as long as the
government doesn't find some way to declare it illegal on the streets. I'm okay with it. I do have
mine. And from a practical standpoint, there's this, Eric, groceries have gotten so expensive that
about all we can fit in the car will fit in the back of the yacht trunk, right? It'll accommodate
your groceries, won't it? That's right. And there's another, there's another facet to this that's
kind of interesting. An additional rumor is that they're not going to cancel it, but
what they're going to do is put a hybrid drive train into it for the next generation.
The current car has been out since, I think, 2016, so it's getting a little old, you know,
in terms of product cycles.
And the reason for that is the reason why you're seeing so many hybrid vehicles now, everything.
It used to be that there was the Prius and maybe one or two other hybrid cars on the market.
And they were marketed chiefly toward people who really wanted hyper-efficiency above everything else.
You know, there's a market for that.
I wanted to a virtue signal about their greenness.
that too but now you may have noticed if you look at the new car landscape practically everything is hybrid now you know to some degree or another it's either a mild hybrid or a full hybrid or something and the reason for that of course has to do with the federal government continuing to require ever stricter mileage and so called emission standards which chiefly means carbon dioxide that awful gas that plants have used to metabolize and produce oxygen for us so that we breathe Trump by the way today is supposedly going to make an announcement about cafe that the corporate average fuel economy
standards. And we'll see whether it's any meaningful reduction or simply to kind of riff on
Orwell's 1984. Remember when the people were so happy because Big Brother had decided to
increase the Chacoeration when in fact, of course, it had been decreased. So, you know,
what they had been hinting at was that they were going to just roll them back or keep them at
where they were in 2020. Well, the reason everything's being hybridized right now is precisely
because the only way to comply with the 2020 standards was to build these hybrids.
which cycle the engine off as often as possible and put smaller and smaller engines in cars.
It's the only way that they can achieve compliance with these federal dictates.
So unless we see them actually rolled back significantly or better yet eliminated altogether,
I think we're going to see more and more hybrids.
And we're also going to see fewer and fewer interesting cars like the Miata available for people.
Well, in terms of what Trump is doing, anything less than a complete shutdown of the cafe regime
is not anything that I would be favorable of or applaud.
But if they roll it back a little bit, you know,
it'll be pushed back with the next one.
What they really need to do is to go back and change the or get rid of Nixon's EPA
and take away their power to regulate air pollution, right?
That is the emission standards.
That needs to be taken away from the EPA, and the EPA needs to be shut down.
I mean, let's not just stop with a capital.
FAA rules.
Let's get rid of the EPA and let's get rid of this finding that they can tell us about
all these gases because that is a real fraud.
We've got EV pollution is being ignored for this fake climate crisis.
This is the headline of a what's up.com article.
And it's absolutely true.
They ignore the pollution from the EVs.
But I think the biggest glaring hypocrisy with all of this has in the past.
Ben, that they would ignore the two biggest polluters on Earth, China and India.
They could make as many power plants as they wanted to and continue to make them, put no
cleaning devices on them whatsoever, and this was supposed to address a global issue.
Well, how does that address a global issue?
It's nonsense.
But now we've had this kind of come home in the sense of the AI data centers.
They want to put these AI data centers out there.
So they're obviously not interested in emissions.
anymore. And this has really made outraged a lot of the environmentalists that are out there.
But it is just another example of how it's a real hypocrisy. It's not a real problem. It certainly is
not existential. And it is, if it's in their advantage to do it, and it is in their advantage for
the AI stuff, because that's all about surveillance and control. That is the killer app. And so
they're going to do whatever they have to take. And they don't care if we own anything. They don't
care if we're able to go anywhere and they don't care if we've got any electricity you know you and I have
said that for the longest time you know they they don't even want us to have electric vehicles they
don't want us to have electricity uh nevertheless you know own a car so that's where this stuff is
all going but you know when you talk about the miata that is such a perversion of the whole idea
the whole idea of the miata was to make it incredibly light and simple and so a lot of times
you know people are talking about modifying the miadas i mean there's a company called
flying meata and and it's kind of interesting what they do with it since it's such a lightweight car
um they would uh shove in a v8 engine into the miata and um uh i would read with curiosity about it but
it was something that i never wanted because then you got to get this heavy transmission and
that was one of the nice things about the miata was um how uh how it shifted and uh you know very
responsive and and how it could turn on a dime and it was all really about being a momentum car
rather than a zero to 60 car, right?
And so if these people are going to put in there the, you know,
all the added weight and all the rest of the stuff to make it a hybrid,
and to make it complicated, to make it expensive,
they might as well cancel it.
Well, I agree.
And it just speaks to the kind of tone deafness of the people who are running these car
companies.
You'll see this happening across the industry.
For example, the Dodge, the people in charge of Dodge,
who thought it would be a fine idea to take the challenger in the charge
which were popular cars, sold well, and turned the thing into an EV.
And not only an EV, an EV with a base price that was $20,000 higher than the previous gas engine model.
And they thought that that would sell.
They showing, what I'm trying to get at is that they were showing contempt for their own buyer demographic.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Or Jeep.
I'm sure you wear Jeep.
You know, Jeep is French company, and they have upscaled the Jeep so much that nobody can, their market can't afford it.
People wanted something that was rugged and affordable.
and that's the same kind of thing they're doing to the Miata.
They don't, they don't want to, everybody wants to make exactly the same car
and they all want to upscale everything because they understand how expensive cars are getting
and they know that only the really rich can't afford this stuff.
So it's going to become a plaything for the rich.
It probably, I don't know if it'll be in my lifetime because I'm getting at the end of it,
but probably in your lifetime, you'll probably see the idea that, you know,
owning a car is like having a private plane today, you know.
Oh, sure.
It's going to be a reversion.
to the early days of the car industry, the car world, if you went back to say about 1905 or so,
the only people who owned a car were extremely wealthy people.
You know, go watch episodes of Downton Abbey, you know, the BBC show about that era.
Or Toad of Toad Hall, right?
Yes, because at that time.
He could afford a car and he didn't really care what the fines were like.
He was very much like Elon Musk who opened up his, he opened up a couple of businesses there,
not too far from where we used to live in Texas.
He had boring and he had, I think it was, I can't remember,
maybe it was SpaceX or something, but it was not,
it didn't have anything to do with the launching thing.
And he was violating all kinds of rules from the Department of Transportation,
as well as dumping wastewater directly into the Colorado River.
He didn't care.
They kept fining him.
They gave him the maximum amounts of fines and he didn't care.
So they said, well, we need to raise the fines up.
It's like, well, you know what they raise the fines up?
it's going to be applied against people who can't afford it,
and you're not going to be able to raise a fine up high enough
to affect Elon Musk under any circumstances.
So he's kind of like Toad of Toad Hall, you know.
Right.
You know, here's something to kind of explain the point to people
who may not be familiar with the history of it.
It used to be that when you opened the door of a General Motors vehicle,
you would see this little badge on the sill,
and it would say, body by Fisher.
Yeah.
Do you remember that?
Oh, yeah.
And that is something that harkens back to the days of what we're called
coach-built cars. Before the Model T, this is around the turn of the last century, or
1900 or so. If you wanted a car, you went to a coach-builder, and you would specify what you
wanted, and it was all custom. Everything was made to order. And obviously, only very wealthy
people could afford a vehicle like that. So it's a rich man's toy. And, you know, Henry Ford came
along and had the front street to simplify the thing and to mass produce the thing that had common
parts that were stamped out, and so that anybody who worked at a Ford plant could afford a car.
You know, and for 100 years afterward, people like you and I, regular people, could afford to have a car.
Well, they're trying to bring us back to that era when vehicles were luxury items that only the very affluent people in society could afford.
It's really despicable.
And I wanted to mention something else to get back to what you were mentioning before about the whole emissions slash climate control fraud.
People don't realize that there are EVs that you can get in Europe.
I did an article the other day about a little car call.
the micro microlina did you happen to catch that no i didn't say what the micro microlina
oh it's cute as a button it's like bootros bootro's galley so nice that they named it twice right
what it basically is is an is a small electric car that's essentially it looks just like the old
bmw isetta do you remember the isetta uh was that the one that opened in the front yes exactly
yeah i've actually set in one of those uh up in chicago yeah they had it as a display in a garment store
there. So the same concept. It's just a little EV. It's not designed to go ludicrously fast.
You know, it's designed to be an urban, suburban runabout little car. And it costs about $16,000.
Why can't we have that? Wow. You know, I attack electric cars all the time. But fundamentally,
what I'm attacking is the way they're being forced on people and the way alternatives are being taken
away from people, not the EV as such. I really don't have a problem with, you know, why can't
people buy a $16,000 basic car if they don't need ludicrous speed, they don't need to call on
highway for several hundred miles. And the point is, like, if it truly is the case that we're
facing this existential threat, the climate is changing. You know, we're all going to die unless we
don't drive electric cars. Well, why wouldn't they want to encourage these affordable little
electric cars that people could actually buy as opposed to these elitist cars, these EVs that,
you know, we're allowed to buy 50,000, $60,000 electric cars, but we can't buy the little $16,000
electric car that you can buy in Europe. It just speaks to the disingenuousness.
of the narrative, the way they're trying to tell you that, you know, you have to make this
transition because if you don't, we're all going to die in the climate catastrophe. Well, it's
nonsense. If that were true, they'd be doing everything conceivable to encourage these low-cost,
efficient, simple little cars. That's right. It's just like the pandemic. If they really believe
everybody's going to die, they'd let us try some alternatives to the vaccine. But the plan had been
that they were going to lock us down until they got their vaccine ready, and then they were going to
inject everybody and all the companies harmless with what they did.
But, you know, that was another smoking gun about that fraud.
But, you know, as you're pointing out, these little things like that, and I remember there
was also the Messerschmitt.
Do you remember that?
That was featured in Brazil.
That was the car that the character drove in that.
I've never seen one of those in person, but I have set in the BMW I Zeta.
I've said in that thing.
But, you know, these things are basically golf carts, just on it.
and go with a full vibe, you know?
Why not?
You know, I mean, back when I was in college, I drove a 74 beetle.
Love the car.
But really, it wasn't much more than a golf cart.
You know, it's right.
It had trouble maintaining 65 miles an hour on anything, you know, that was at all inclined.
That was pretty much, it's top speed, you know, if you had a downhill stretch and the wind was at your back, you might be able to get up to about 75 miles an hour in a beetle.
It was fine.
It was cheap.
It allowed me to get on wheels, you know, so that I didn't have to walk or.
take a bus. And that's why I'm kind of so annoyed about the fact that you can't buy new vehicles
like that little inexpensive EV that's available in Europe, because after all, if that thing
were on the market as a used vehicle, it would probably cost only $7,000 or $8,000, you know,
after a couple of years of depreciation. And imagine, you know, you're an 18-year-old kid and, you
know, you don't have a lot of money, but you'd like to have a car. So, you know, here's a car
that you could, that would work as your first car. And my point is, you know, we're being denied all these
alternatives. It's no longer the case that the market responds to what people want.
It's what the government demands and it's one size fits all. And that's why, you know,
you hear everybody complaining about, oh, they all look the same. Well, there's a reason for that.
The reason they all look the same is because they all have to comply with the same government
demands. That's right. Yeah, you remember, I grew up in Florida and so the Volkswagen that I
aspired to have was the dune buggy. I can't care if that was practical or not. And then really
doubled down with a Thomas Crown affair that had Steve McQueen driving one of those
remember that I forget what the company was that put those in we just called them
yeah the May that's all right the Manx and we just called them Dune Buggies for that but
Karen's first car was a pento and that was another example I remember you talk about how
that was your your right of passage that was how you knew you were an adult and how
you now had freedom it was having the wheels right and so I remember scrutinizing the
stuff and figuring out how much I would have to work in order to save up and buy a pento
before, um, you know, I was able to drive because they were very cheap. I remember they were
like, you know, $1,400 or something new. It was incredible how cheap they were. Of course,
the dollar was, I had a lot more purchasing power than it has now, but, um, um, you know,
Karen got one of those. It had rubber mats, you know, not, not carpet, uh, course, hand cranked
windows and all the kind of stuff. The trunk was so thin.
that when you
drop the trunk, it didn't have a hatchback
on hers, but it had
a little small trunk that was maybe
about a foot wide
or for it deep, you know, and
when you dropped it, it just shook.
It was such thin metal. And of course,
you know, they were infamous for
exploding when they were hit in the back.
But they cut every corner
that they cut, including the safety equipment
to keep it from exploding when it was hit in the back.
But it was
what she needed. And she was able to get one
used. And fortunately for her, before anything happened, if she had an accident, somebody stole it
from her. We were all laughing about it. It's like, who would steal this thing? Not only was it that,
but she had a slow leak in her radiator. And I was going to fix it over the weekend. But it was like
Thursday, she goes out to get into the car. She's got her water jug with her that she's going to
top it up with before she goes to work. And the car was gone. She called me up and she said, you didn't
bring me home last night, right? I drove home last night. He's like, yeah, that's right.
She goes, my car has gone. It took us a while to actually pinch ourselves and to wake ourselves
the fact that somebody had stolen the thing. He was like, who would steal this? And everybody
jokes. Did you leave it running with the keys in the car and a bad neighborhood or something to get
this to happen? But it was transportation. And sometimes that's what you need. And they don't,
they don't want us to have that anymore. Yeah, no, everybody needs that. You know,
Leah Coco, who was at Ford at the time, and who was responsible for the
Pinto decreed that it would be kept under $2,000 brand new, and they managed to do that.
Think about that.
Imagine that.
A brand new car, now granted inflation and everything, but still $2,000 for a brand new car,
meaning that five or six years down the road, cars like that were abundant on the used car market for kids who didn't have a lot of money.
I mean, just like you, when I was that age, when I was in high school, I saved the money that I earned from cutting grass and shoveling snow and all that other stuff in my McDonald's after school money.
so I could buy a car.
Everybody knows that today it's almost impossible for a teenager
to work a part-time job or cut grass
and be able to afford anything as far as a car goes
because they're so expensive.
And that's really tragic.
It's really sad.
And it's hurting not just teenagers who are trying to become adults,
but people on the lower end of the economic spectrum,
they're limited.
Their options are limited.
It's not just about, hey, I want to go for a joy ride.
If you can't drive to work, your work options are limited.
If you can only go wherever the bus,
goes or the train goes, that means you can only get certain kinds of jobs. And it probably
means you're going to have to live in an urban area. But guess what? Everything's more expensive
in the urban area than it is farther out. So really, it's a kind of an assault on the, you know,
as it's ironic, isn't it? You know, we've heard from the Democrats in the left for years about
the plight of the working man and the average guy. Well, the average guy and the working man are
the ones who are most being harmed by these things. And now it's, it's leached out farther and
it's metastasized. And it's beginning to make it very difficult for middle class people.
to achieve to have the standard of living that so-called working class people had 50 years ago.
I agree, yeah. And it's like, what are they, what is their end game with all this stuff, right? Is it just to kill us all? Or what is it? Because it doesn't make any sense that they keep taking everything away from everybody. They want to take away our jobs and so forth and put us on universal basic income. You know, what is the end game with that? It is so antithetical to what Henry Ford was about, as he said, you know, we're going to make the cars cheap enough that the people who work on the assembly line manufacture them can afford to have one. And so, you know, what, what,
What is the end game for the people?
They really do hate us.
It's this concentration.
And that was the other aspect that these people noticed going back over 5,000 years.
The frustration and the lack of the sense of control of your own life, no opportunity and all the rest of this stuff, which is precisely what the agenda is for the technocracy and the people who are around Trump that, you know, Peter Thiel and these Curtis Jarvin types.
they want a society that's going to be libertarian for them and authoritarian for us.
And that's what they're pushing to.
And it's like, how do you think that that's going to be sustainable?
People have never put up with that in history.
So, you know, they may be able to put it in for a short period of time, but I don't think it was going to last.
Yeah, psychologically, it's very interesting.
I think part of it is kind of a pathological thing in that some people, it's not enough to have generational
wealth, you know, to have enough money not only for themselves to live without any care
whatsoever about financial worries. Their kids and their kids' kids are going to be completely
taken care of. It's never enough. How many billions do you need? Elon Musk's net worth is what,
$60 billion or something crazy like that? I think it's more than that. Yeah. And it's still not
enough. They need more. You know, it's not enough to have a yacht. You have to have two yachts.
Then you have to have a private jet. Then you have to have four. The biggest shot. You've got to have
bigger than the billionaire next door.
Yeah. And so that, it's almost as if there's an element of sadism in it.
It's not that, oh, I've got something really nice.
I've got, you know, I've got a Daimler-Mayback.
But my neighbor, my God, that guy has a Chevy Suburban.
The guy down, you know, the guy who cuts some grass has a Chevy suburban.
I don't want him to have that.
Yeah.
That's somehow a diminishment.
That, you know, I feel, it's only, it's only, I only feel good if I'm the only one
who has something nice.
I think that's part of psychologically what's motivating all of this.
That's right. I think you're absolutely right.
And that's one of the reasons why they buy things like a Mayback,
because I'm the only one who's got a Mayback, right?
Or they buy a dress or a purse that costs $4,000 or $8,000 or something.
You know, it's that exclusivity.
And then there's only so far that you can go with that exclusivity
until it's necessary for you to exclude stuff from other people.
And that's really where this is all headed.
I agree.
It is really a kind of a sickness that's there.
But we've always seen that.
it's an addiction that these people have to money right the love of money it becomes like a drug to them
it really does um there's another interesting aspect of this if i if i might elaborate just to touch
because it's almost a cartoon indictment of capitalism but it's not capitalism because almost all of
these people and in almost every case they are acquiring their wealth through government that's right
first thing we talked about when i had you on was your article about Elon must being the king of crony
capitalism. That was more than a decade ago when we first talked about that. And that, as you
pointed out, was how he got his wealth. I said that earlier in the program. I said, you know,
you look at this. And so many times you see people who are libertarian or conservative and they
want to champion businesses and say, business can do nothing wrong and government can do nothing
right. And then the Democrats are the other way, right? Government can do nothing wrong. Businesses
and private companies can do nothing right. The reality is,
is that they've merged, and that's what makes it all so evil. And they don't see that.
You know, they imagine that we've got a free market or that we have capitalism, but it's not
that at all. It's this kind of mixture that we see in China, and we recognize it in China,
how they come in and say, well, you're going to have to give us a piece of that. But we're
seeing that in spades now with Trump. You know, he's using, taking over, buying a share of Intel
and using government money to start, you know, acquiring assets to own it.
I mean, that is socialism, Marxism, central planning, all the things that Republicans used to
oppose, they now applaud because Trump is doing it.
Yep, they've so poisoned the well.
And in addition to that, younger Americans in particular don't know their own history.
That's right.
Henry Ford can be considered a capitalist.
Henry Ford figured out a way to make a better mousetrap.
And he didn't use the government.
at all to subsidize his business what he did was to make a product that people could afford and a
very interesting thing about ford was that the model t got progressively less expensive with each model
year because he would fine tune it figure out ways to make it cost less and he was able to scale
things up and he sold more of them so he could make more on volume than on individual unit sales
yeah you know it was such a boon for average people because it liberated them
from the yoke of having to be tied to an urban area to a city
A farmer could buy a Ford Model T, and he could use it as a tractor.
You know, they made it to be modular.
So, you know, you could have it out on the farm.
And gasoline, of course, was portable.
So even in the time before there were gas stations, you could bring gas to where there
wasn't any gas.
And, you know, we've taken this for granted as a civilization, this idea that we can just
go where we want to go.
That was not the case once.
You know, it was almost kind of a feudal order where you were stuck where you were by
circumstances. And, you know, the dawn of that age changed that. And now we're reverting back to
that age. And we're being dragged back into it because most people just don't appreciate just how
good we had it. And they might once it's all gone. That's right. That's right. Well, you know,
a lot of this comes, and I've mentioned many times, there was an op-ed piece that really dropped
my jaw when I saw it by the CEO of Lyft. I can't remember his name. I don't know if he's still
the CEO. But the guy had been an urban planner by education.
and so he loved cities and he said cities are the best invention of mankind and cars are the
worst invention and i thought this is just so upside down and backwards uh nobody agrees
of that in reality because the reason that we have suburbs and the reason that we have what
these urban planners derisively call urban sprawl is because people don't like living all pressed
up against each other and they're willing to spend time and money so they can get
more space around them, but they hate that because these urban planners are all about control.
And when you look at the, we look at Lyft and you look at Uber, you know, they were all about
owning all of the transportation privately, right, and making it kind of a fascist-run system,
not directly owned by the government as if they would own all the buses and the rails and
subways like that. But the fact that they would partner with government to make sure, you know,
they do whatever government wants them to do.
If the government tells them that David Knight can't ride anywhere, they would enforce that for them.
And so they're all about that and that kind of a partnership that we see there.
And they're all about getting rid of, as Travis Kalalnik of Uber used to say, the reason our rides are expensive is because that other dude in the car.
We're going to get rid of that other dude in the car.
We're going to have self-driving cars.
That's where we want to go.
So who's going to be able to afford to drive in these things, right?
because it's not just one sector with artificial intelligence or robotics and everything.
They're going for every sector all at once.
They're trying to reduce this.
There's an MIT report saying that they could get rid of,
I forget how many tens of millions of jobs,
but it was massive.
It was like maybe 20 million jobs or something.
We think we can replace 20 million jobs right now with AI if we get really serious about this.
We build the data centers.
Well, they've loved to do that because it'll increase their profit margin will reduce their health care costs.
something else though you know you mentioned how this guy the lift guy uh says that cities are bad
and it's a good but cities are good it's an unconscious confession his subjective value he personally
thinks that cities are great and he personally thinks that it's bad to not live uh you know in them
and doesn't even appreciate that other people might have a different point of view and if they have a
different point of view you know theirs should be stomped yeah they shouldn't be allowed to have
their different point of view.
That's the mentality of the people that we're dealing with.
They can't live and let live.
They can't say, okay, I've got a point of view.
I like living in an urban hive.
I like living in an apartment.
You go ahead and live in the country.
You have a ability if you want to.
They can't do that.
That whole American idea that we used to have of live and let live, different strokes for different folks.
It's just being exterminated by this arrogant, one-size-fits-all.
Everybody's going to do the same thing mentality.
I agree. Yeah, I like EVs. So you're going to use an EVs. I'm going to demand that you use it.
There's not going to be any other exception. Yeah, I've got a couple of comments here.
Birdhouse Blue says, I don't even recognize the cars today. They all look the same. That's absolutely right.
And that's not by accident. The reason they all look the same is because they all have to comply with the same federal regulations.
And that greatly limits the ability of designers to come up with anything different.
It's kind of like the best way to understand it
If you follow
Cop Racing
They literally have this template
It's this thing that they put over the body of the car
The car has to be within those parameters
In order to be legal to use on the track
So that's why the NASCAR cars all look the same
No matter whether it says Toyota or Ford or whatever
They all look the same
And that's the reason why when you go to a car showroom
Pretty much all the cars look
Like they got stamped out of the same factory
And a different badge got put on the fender
Yeah. Yeah, he also has a comment. He says cars used to have character. You know, you're talking about that. That reminds me of the Superbird. And I think it was Richard Petty. They did that. Remember that? And they actually sold that for consumers. I had a friend of mine in high school. His dad bought him a roadrunner superbird and had that long extension on the front. And it had like the spoiler on the back that was like five feet above the trunk and everything. It was crazy that he was driving this around on the road. But he could do it.
That was a 200-mile-an-hour car.
Yeah, yeah.
And the really cool thing about stock car racing in those days were, they literally were stock cars in the sense that they took a production car, you know, and they turned it into a race car.
Now the cars that you see on a NASCAR circuit, they're all the same tube frame chassis underneath with this skin on the top that's supposed to vaguely kind of remind you of a Ford or a, or it's not anything at all remotely like a car that you can buy at the dealership.
for us. Back in the day, like your friend did, you could buy basically Richard Petty's car.
Yeah.
To the version of Richard Petty's car.
That's what crazy is funny.
They used to say, you know, went on Sunday, sell on Monday, and it was true because, you know, you went to the race.
Yeah.
And if you were a Chevy guy and you watched the Chevy win the race or a Dodge guy, whatever, you were happy about that and you wanted to be associated with that.
So you went and bought that car because you thought it was a winner because it won the race.
And there was truth in that.
Yeah.
Now, you know, motorsports, at least as far as NASCAR goes, I know I'm going to get some hate for this.
But I consider it.
to be the World Wrestling Federation of Motorsports.
That's a good way to put it.
That's funny.
I tell you, every time I see John in his car, you know,
he was really nice guy.
And the funny thing about it,
he was not the kind of guy that would show off,
and he didn't do that with anything else.
And he was actually,
I always felt that he was embarrassed when people noticed his car.
He's like, yeah, my dad bought it for me.
But it was so out of character.
It was amazing.
Those cars, those, those Daytona Superbirds,
those cars now are hundred,
hundreds of thousands of dollars if you want to buy one now back at the day when when they were
available to the dealers they couldn't sell them a lot of times they would sit on the lot and you know
they would eventually get fire sold to somebody for a budget price because like your friend people
felt a little awkward driving around in this thing with this huge wing on the back you know and that
bullet nose that it had on the front yeah yeah extended it as like yeah how you're going to
park that anywhere you know I assume that you didn't use that for your parallel parking
driving test it never fit in the parking space it was it was crazy
crazy. And it was always a lot of fun to see him. And I hope he didn't wreck it. Maybe if he's,
if he kept it, he's got a lot of money now he could get for that. But yeah, as the Burthouse
Blue also says, I used to buy many used cars for 500 or less back in the 80s even. That's true.
You know, but let's talk a little bit about, you got an article just came out this week,
a solution for a created problem. Tell us about that. Oh, yeah. Well, we all have experienced
the frustration of sitting at a traffic light. And the light in front of us goes,
was green. And as soon as you cross the intersection up ahead, there's another light, and it just
went red. Oh, yeah. And so, you know, signal timing. It's a problem. But it's a problem that's
easily remedied by timing the signals. So that generally speaking on a given stretch of road,
most of the lights will go green sequentially in order so that the traffic can flow. Well,
instead of just doing it the simple way, now one of these tech bro companies associated with the
University of Michigan has proposed the fine idea of collating and collecting data being transmitted
from your car, your GPS data and other data, so that the system recognizes how many cars
are on a given stretch of road at a given time, how fast they're moving, and they can use
AI to coordinate the lights. Of course, really what this is about, again, is monitoring you,
collecting data about you. They swear up and down on a stack of Brave New Worlds that it's
anonymized data, but of course it's not. It's only anonymized because they choose it to be
anonymized. All of this is tied particularly to your car. People don't realize,
Most people don't know that pretty much all cars now made within the last 10 or 15 years have what they call telematics,
which means that they are constantly in communication with the hive.
I call it the hive.
They're receiving updates.
They're transmitting this.
And you have no consent and no ability to thwart that.
And it's quite remarkable that there hasn't been more outrage, at least as far as I'm concerned.
I don't like the idea of my car being like my cell phone in that it is controlled by some corporate entity somewhere that,
can decide that it wants to update it, i.e. change it, or that it can use this device to track
my movements, not because I'm a criminal, because I have, I don't want people knowing where
I'm going. It's reasonable. I don't feel like I ought to have an ankle bracelet on unless I've
actually been convicted of a crime. That's right. You know, there was an interesting thing
reported on the last couple of weeks, and there was a guy who was pushing back against a bunch
of statists who were pushing for some new safety devices or something to be made mandatory on cars.
And this is a guy who, before he became a politician, he used to sell cars. And so he decided
he would go around and see if these people actually had bought these safety devices that were
optional on their car. So he went around and got their VIN numbers for their cars, looked it up
and found out that these people who were saying, you absolutely have to have this stuff, had declined
paying for it when they had the option to and we're going to use their money.
So he says, so now you're going to force everybody to buy what you chose not to buy
when you had the opportunity to do it.
And their reaction to it was like, how dare you get my VIN number and look this stuff up?
You violated my privacy.
And I thought, this is the most hypocritical thing you can imagine.
These are the people who are spying on us with everything, as you point out, in our car
and all the rest of it.
Of course, there's also the massive flock network.
of cameras that are out there doing automated license plate readings and not just the license plate,
but they are creating an ID profile of your car looking at the idiosyncrasies of it.
Does it have a dent on the side or a scratch or this or that?
And tracking that, literally tracking it for law enforcement all the time and doing that as a contract.
And that is exploding.
That's a kind of public-private tyranny that we see over and over again.
And I thought it was just the most amazing.
I played that clip this a couple of weeks, within the last couple of weeks.
And the attitude of these people, how dare you do this one?
They are mandating stuff for people and they are spying on people all the time.
Yeah, it's really interesting to me that, you know, this gets us into the subject of the driver assistance technology, which is related to it.
Why is it that it is made standard equipment now in every vehicle, even though,
the overwhelming majority of people
do not want this. I can't
tell you how many times I get emails
and comments whenever I do shows like yours
people say, you know, I despise
being parented by my car. I don't
like lane keep assistance.
I don't like any of that. I want to turn
it off. You can't turn it off anymore. All you can do
is turn it down. And it's interesting that
these manufacturers who you think would
not want to alienate their customers. Why would you
put something in a vehicle that most people
don't want? Well,
it's because they want it. And then
the question is begged, well, why do they want it? And I think the reason is because there's just
gradually piece by piece, putting together this system in which you will have no control over
your car beyond which, beyond what they want you to have. So the minute that you go outside the
parameters of that, you know, the car will correct you. And it may get to the point where it just
shuts off or it doesn't operate at all if you don't operate it within the allowable parameters.
And at that point, we might as well just all sign up for a Johnny Cab. And, you know,
Which is ultimately, I think, what they really do want.
It is.
It is.
And that's why these car companies have been partnerships in a partnership with government to add
all these expensive add-ons and all these things that people don't want because that drives
the price of the car up and they can charge people for that.
And but the problem is, is that they've kind of, you know, one thing that Vladimir
Lennon got right was he said the capitalist will sell the rope that's used to hang them.
And that's what's being used to hang these guys now.
is, you know, they sold all these safety device ropes to rope you in.
And now their cars are so expensive, people can't afford it.
But then, of course, the solution to that is to get even more into a relationship
and a partnership with the government so that they are the providers with this mobility stuff
that's going to be privately owned, but will be heavily controlled.
And there'll be a, you know, the government will tell them what to do.
And, of course, you'll have the politicians who will get to wet their beak.
As the mafia people say, that's basically how this is going to operate.
It's going to be a Chinese model.
That's why they opened up China for this type of stuff.
Inevitably, to speak to your point about not seeing their own self-interest,
there will have to be a winnowing of the number of manufacturers
because it just doesn't make sense to have as many manufacturers as there still are producing essentially the same thing.
Why not consolidate everything, kind of like they did in the Soviet Union,
where you could get a lot of maybe after, you know, after,
15 or 20 years on a waiting list.
It's going to be, or Trubant, you know, those were your choices back in the old Soviet days.
And ultimately, I see something like that happening.
You know, Philip Dick, the great sci-fi writer foresaw this.
If you read his novel, Blade Runner, they don't get into it.
Or the novel is Do Android's Dream of Electric Sheep.
The movie Blade Runner is the one that people are more familiar with.
But in the novel, everything is controlled by what's called the Turrell Corporation.
Everything.
It's sort of like, you know, the Amazon of our time.
It's just this, every single consumer good is made and manufactured by this one pyramidal structured massive corporation that controls everything.
You know, and he wrote that book decades and decades and decades ago, and here we are.
You know, it's very prescient in the way it foresaw, you know, what corporatism would turn capitalism into.
All these dystopia novels have become a manual for these people, I think.
Yeah, you talk about how you'd wait for decades for that.
That was one of the best Ronald Reagan jokes, basically in Russia, right?
The guy orders, I don't know if there's a car.
Let's just say it's a washing machine.
And he goes, we'll have that for you in 10 years.
And the guy says, afternoon or morning.
And he says, why do you ask?
It's 10 years from now.
He goes, well, because I've got the dishwasher coming in the morning 10 years from now.
It's funny, but it's sad.
Because those who can remember the way America used to be,
You know, never thought America would become like the Soviet Union.
That's right.
And yet we're rapidly on our way to becoming exactly that.
Well, you know, it's even to the extent that you've got a lot of these conservative influencers.
And again, these are not people who are researchers and not reporters and not journalists.
They are influencers.
That ought to tell you something.
But they're out there trying to rehabilitate Richard Nixon of all people, our 55-mile-an-hour guy,
who created the EPA and so many other issues out there.
And he opened us up to China and he set us down on this path.
And I said, you know, think about it, conservatives.
If you like Richard Nixon, you got to like Henry Kissinger, Mr. Globalism himself, you know.
But it's amazing how this has all, you know, it's a long-term plan that they've been operating on.
You know, with regard to what we talked about at the beginning of the interview, the federal fuel economy standards, you know, I think it's the best way to challenge that is to say,
Why is the government involved in that at all?
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, what businesses is it of the government to decree to you or I,
how many miles per gallon a vehicle that we choose to buy with our own money must get?
Where is that in the Constitution?
And where is the authority for the EPA in the Constitution, right?
And it's based on a fatuity.
You know, the argument is that if the government weren't doing this,
then the mean old automakers would make nothing but gas-guzzling cars,
and we'd all be at the mercy of big oil.
It's nonsense.
Before Cafe came along in the early,
70s. There were plenty of fuel efficient cars available. Yeah. So it's a lie. And, you know,
these mandates that are coming out, the cafe thing costs you money. Yeah, your car gets 35 miles per gallon,
but it also costs $40,000 now. So you're really not saving any money because you've got this
micro-engine turbocharged hybrid augmented thing with a CBT transmission. And yay, I'm getting, you know,
five miles more per gallon than I, you know, I'm, then the vehicle that costs thousands and thousands of
less, but, you know, I guess people just can't do basic math anymore.
So they buy into this nonsense.
That's right. Yeah.
I like this op-ed piece that you put out the last generation for this out yesterday.
You started by saying, before the 90s, men drove cars and kids rode bicycles without helmets.
Now men wear helmets to ride a bicycle.
And kids aren't allowed to ride in a car unless they're strapped in a safety seat.
You know, that is the amazing thing.
you know, Travis just had to get a car seat for their son.
And, of course, you know, they're talking about,
well, this is going to last up until, you know, whatever the age is.
And, you know, they make the cars so that they have different inserts that you can put in when they're small,
then they can keep staying in that car seat forever, you know, as they get older and older.
It's amazing.
It's terrible.
And, you know, one of the hidden costs of that, by the way, with regard to the safety seat mandate,
it effectively pushes people to buy a three row SUV at some point or a crossover because if you've got more than two kids, you know, it becomes just too difficult to fit the seats in the back of the thing.
Yeah.
So you need that.
So then you have to move up and buy this much more expensive vehicle.
You know, I, you know, I miss the days, you know, when we were kids, you went for a drive.
Mom and dad, you open the door, just jump in the car and go.
Yeah.
Now you got to go.
You've got to be able to get in the car and get them into the car seat and all the rest of the stuff.
I mean, we just used to climb in these cars.
They didn't have seatbelts.
They didn't have padded dashboards or anything.
We used to joke about it.
Even when in high school, you know, they started putting in the seatbelts.
They weren't mandatory yet.
And we used to laugh about it.
So, yeah, we used to just somebody have an accent.
We just hose the blood off the dashboard and saw the car again.
Sure, you know, I understand that there is an increased risk.
I know some people listening to us might be appalled at what I'm suggesting here.
But I think it's gotten to be almost neurotic.
No, I think it is neurotic.
It is neurotic.
It is neurotic.
fear that pervades our society about what might happen.
You know, heaven for fend, you know, you get in a car and drive down to the mailbox without your seatbelt on, you know, you might die.
This is the attitude that people have now, and it's just, it's over the top, and it's silly.
Yeah.
And just on a moral level, if you're an adult, you don't need to be parented, presumably.
You're grown up.
So ease off, leave me alone.
I'll make decisions.
I'll weigh costs, benefits, risks, and reward for myself.
You have no right to parent another adult.
That's right. Yeah, they would be absolutely appalled to see what happens in China when we were there, like 20 years ago.
You know, you got somebody, the family, they don't have an SUV, they don't have a car, they got a motorcycle.
And they just tell the little kids that are maybe, you know, four years old, just hang on, you know.
There's no seatbelt. There's nothing there. Somehow they managed to survive.
I used to always laugh about the magic school bus.
So one thing would come on and they would start by saying seatbelts,
everybody said there's no seatbelts on a school bus they cover them with laws and yellow paint to
make sure that nobody gets hurt you know it's always great talking to you eric we're out of time
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