The David Pakman Show - 10/21/24: Obama brutal on campaign trail, Trump falls asleep

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

-- On the Show: -- Former President Barack Obama holds a rally for Kamala Harris in Las Vegas, Nevada, and goes directly at Donald Trump's obvious cognitive deterioration -- "Comedian" Jim Breuer once again makes us wonder why right wing comedy is so terrible -- Donald Trump is cancelling large numbers of interviews, believed to be because he lacks the energy for them -- Donald Trump furiously wanders around a rally stage for 17 minutes after his microphone fails -- Donald Trump denies that he has cognitive issues during a Lancaster, Pennsylvania town hall-style rally hosted by Sage Steele, who Trump refers to as "Paige" -- In a Fox News interview with Howard Kurtz, Donald Trump doubles down on the debunked claim about Haitian immigrants eating cats and dogs by talking about "the goose" -- At a bizarre rally in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, Donald Trump waxes poetic about the supposed size of the late golfer Arnold Palmer's genitals -- Donald Trump appears to fall asleep at a campaign event -- Another Russian oligarch is dead after "falling out of a window," this time 64-year-old Mikhail Rogachev -- On the Bonus Show: Trump "works" at McDonalds', Stanford prison experiment psychologist dead at 91, Musk offers possibly illegal giveaway, and much more... 🧴 Amallow skin cream: Use code PAKMAN for 15% off at https://amallow.com/pakman 🍽️ CookUnity: Get 50% OFF your 1st week with code PAKMAN at https://cookunity.com/pakman 🔊 Babbel language learning: Get up to 60% OFF at https://babbel.com/pakman 🛡️ Incogni lets you control your personal data! Get 60% off their annual plan: http://incogni.com/pakman  🛏️ Eight Sleep: Get $350 OFF the Pod 4 Ultra at https://eightsleep.com/pakman ⚠️ Ground News: Get 40% OFF their unlimited access Vantage plan at https://ground.news/pakman 🩳 SHEATH Underwear: Code PAKMAN for 20% OFF at https://sheathunderwear.com/pakman -- Become a Member: https://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/davidpakmanshow -- TDPS Subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/thedavidpakmanshow -- Pakman Discord: https://www.davidpakman.com/discord -- David on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave a Voicemail: (219)-2DAVIDP

. Welcome to the show, everybody. Hope you had a good weekend. Very busy weekend now is one of the final weekends in the 2024 election cycle, presidential elections, Senate elections, every member of the House of Representatives up for reelection. And it is multiple rallies a day at this point. We can't cover all of them. I don't want to cover all of them. I wouldn't subject you to covering all of them. But Barack Obama, you remember the guy, right?

The former president. Exactly. Barack Obama this weekend in Las Vegas delivered what was truly a masterclass in political speech, distilling an election between two candidates who really shouldn't even be close. The fact that this is a coin flip election is a sign of the real problems in this country. Kamala Harris said, I'm not going to criticize half of America, but I'm not Kamala Harris. I'll do it. We have a problem here in this country.

Barack Obama really distilling down what's at stake here and Obama choosing to go right to the dementia cognitive decline situation with failed former President Donald Trump. I've spoken about Donald Trump's intentions, what his concerns are. They are not you. But there's another concern that I have about Donald Trump, which is his competence. Yes. Have you seen him lately? I mean, he is out there. He's given these two and a half hour speeches. Just just a word salad. You don't know, he's giving these two and a half hour speeches, just a word salad. You don't know what he's saying. At any given moment. He held a town hall meeting where,

now the point of a town hall meeting, I've had like maybe a thousand of them, the point is you meet with people and you answer their questions. He just stopped. He's all like, I don't feel like taking questions anymore. And then we're just going to – he just played music for half an hour. Just swayed to Ave Maria and YMCA. I mean, imagine if, if, if a Jaguar ride did that, now our playlist might be better, but it is strange behavior. All right. So you get the point.

Barack Obama going directly at the growing certainty that something is just wrong with Trump. And if you paid any attention to Trump's rallies this weekend, mounting evidence of that. But we'll get to that later because Barack Obama also addressed those who feel sort of hopeless, sort of like, ah, it's all looking so bad. And does my vote even matter? And are we really going to achieve anything? And Barack Obama laying out, yes, elections matter and your vote matters. As frustrating as climate, politics just seems so mean

and nasty. And there's so many lies floating around. People get on these doom scrolls on TikTok. And it's like, oh, man, that's terrible. Oh, that's worse. That's terrible. Oh, my God." And so you get frustrated, and it feels like nothing's going to work. But the truth is, when you vote, it matters. It can make your life better or it can make it worse. Sometimes I talk to folks who don't think it's going to make a difference whether Kamala Harris or Donald Trump wins. No, no, you guys know people like this, right?

I mean, they're not bad people. They're just like, oh, you know, politics, it's not going to make any difference in my life. They figure it's not going to have an impact. And I constantly have to remind them, yes, whoever's president, they're not going to end poverty overnight. They're not going to end racism. You're not suddenly going to not have to go to your job and listen to your boss. Things are not going to suddenly be perfect.

But you know what? It makes a difference. When I passed the Affordable Care Act, almost 50 million people got health care that they didn't have before. That made a difference in their lives. More than 50 million people with preexisting conditions can no longer be denied coverage or charged more. It made a difference to them. Listen, when I was president, I'll give you just one other example. And I want you to use this example when you're talking to folks who say it's not going to make any difference. I had been talking to scientists for a while.

And so in my last year in office, we put together a playbook for how to deal with the eventuality of a pandemic. Because scientists had been saying with globalization and travel, et cetera, rising populations, that at some point there was going to be a pandemic. So I said to my team, I said, we've got to have a plan, just like you do for hurricanes or tornadoes or natural disasters. So we put together this whole playbook, and we ran, we practiced the playbook. We'd get all the agencies. This is how we're going to respond. This is how to make make sure that the public health systems in all the states are working. Here's how we we're going to think about the schools. And when Donald Trump came in,

we gave over that playbook. This is a really good call for civic engagement. And as I often say to people when they think they've got this, you can't defeat this gotcha. When did these elections ever come down to one vote? Well, I think there are a couple of examples of elections that came down to one vote. There are certainly precincts that came down to one vote. But think a little more about that idea. When would my vote alone make a difference?

Let me frame it a different way. A lot of people have that thought. It's not just you sitting there going, when when would just my vote make a difference? If you think of all of the people to whom that occurs, if that whole group stays home, if everybody who says to themselves, should I vote? When did it come down to one vote? If that whole constituency stays home, now you have an election flipping constituency that is saying, I'm not going to vote because it's never come down to one vote. As far as I know, that entire group swings an election depending on whether they stay

home or they go out and they vote. Barack Obama also talking during this event about spending up a lot of spending a long time cleaning up the mess of Republicans and then what he handed to Donald Trump when Donald Trump took over. Yeah, it was good because it was my economy. All right. Some of y'all remember what it was like in Nevada when I came into office. The worst financial crisis in history. The housing market collapsed here in Nevada. You remember that? Boarded up homes everywhere.

Folks, mortgages underwater. I spent eight years cleaning up that mess that the Republicans had left me. And then I handed over to Donald Trump 75 straight months of job growth. And all he did with it was give a tax cut to the people who didn't need it, drove up the deficit in the process, and now he wants to do it all over again. So, if you're talking to somebody, and y'all know somebody, who's all like, well, I don't know.

I remember Trump, you know, the economy seems that was pretty good. You remind them it wasn't good because anything he did. All right. And I think as good as Barack Obama is at this, I will mention presidents have relatively little to do with the economy. The American economy tends to move more or less in parallel with the economies of our Western Democratic allies, although it's worth mentioning that when you look at, for example, inflation, the period of high inflation and then lower inflation during and after the pandemic, even though these economies were moving in tandem, we had lower peak inflation and a faster decline

in the United States. And so certainly on the margins, presidents make a difference. But Barack Obama doing a very good job of pointing out all of these stories about how Democrats are terrible for the economy and Republicans are great for the economy. Not only do the facts not bear it out, but they aren't even really being honest about what the history is. Few people as good at this as Barack Obama is, and hopefully he'll be on the campaign trail heavily between now and November 5th.

And I believe that that is indeed the plan. Why is right wing comedy so terrible? It's a question we've been asking for a long time. I have some thoughts. I have some principles, some guideposts that I believe will be illuminating as to why right wing comedy is just so crappy. But in order to remind ourselves what we're talking about, this is tough to watch. I have a video from Mike Flynn's QAnon crypto fascist rally in North Carolina. This is, quote, comedian. I use that term so loosely,

quote, comedian Jim Brewer. He's doing an impression of Kamala Harris. If you're watching, you will see that there are people in hysterics in the crowd, incredibly sheltered people. I have to imagine this will be our jumping off point to resume this. I find it a very interesting question culturally and sociologically. Why is right wing comedy, so-called comedy, so damn bad? And Jim Brewer, if you're ever looking for an answer to that question, a good place to start is with Jim Brewer. Here is comedy from Jim Brewer, right wing comedian. So the Fox guy goes, 70 percent of America says we're heading in the wrong direction. And what do you have to say to those 70 percent of Americans. And Donald Trump's been running.

Isn't this funny? People in the crowd are close to a medical emergency from how hard they're laughing. How sheltered do you have to be to find this funny? Her handlers are coming out. You don't think China was watching that going, oh, my gosh, she's so funny. She has a no question. So funny. OK, so why is right wing comedy so terrible? I have a few ideas. First of all, as you can see, the timing is it's just it's completely bizarre. Even if you wanted to do a sort of kind of physical comedy type bit of this kind where you're hopping around and you're popping your mic and you're acting as though you are having

some kind of medical emergency. The timing is completely off. And very often you will find that right wing comedy, the timing is whack, like this thing is either way too long or it just the timing doesn't make any sense. Secondly, there's an overuse of outrage, even when it doesn't make any sense. You know, one of the funny things about real comedians is that they will often poke fun at a situation where we actually should be outraged. We're busy living our lives, so we may not be outraged. It may be something from everyday life or whatever. Right. But they're

using outrage in a way that is appropriate. What are they even out there? They're all Jim Brewers is outraged at how Kamala Harris dares to answer questions. But like what what's the outrage? She gave a fine interview. Third, there's no moment where they subvert expectations. One of the things that makes comedy sometimes funny when real comedians do it is that it's going in a certain direction and then there's you. You turn all of a sudden you make a 180 and part of the punch line or part of what's funny is that it's going against your expectations with this stuff. It's yeah, we know what you're going to do.

You'll come up with some you'll you'll mock someone's accent like he was mocking an Asian accent there at the end. It's all completely expected. So the payoff never has any. Oh, that was actually sort of clever. And then the other aspect to this is that there's often a punching down. The targets end up being marginalized groups, weak groups, whatever. And it lacks all interest and nuance and ends up just kind of relying on stereotypes.

Now left wing comedians will also play off of stereotypes. I just watched a couple of comedy shows with some friends over the weekend where you're using stereotypes still, but you're not doing it in a way that feels like you're punching down and everything about Jim Brewer is just so unfunny. So I think these are a few of the reasons why right wing comedy is so damn bad. And it's almost like a feedback loop because you put this totally unfunny stuff in front of people who I guess are really sheltered or they're looking for someone to reinforce that they have the right political views by finding something funny about it.

And so they go crazy laughing, which makes the comedian think, man, this crap is really working. And so they keep doing more of the hopping around and, you know, hitting the mic like he's an idiot. This is really bad stuff. And if you have more as to the mechanics of why it's so bad, I would love to hear from you. Info at David Pakman dot com.

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And there's a couple of different options. But let me first tell you what's going on. A number of appearances over the last 10 days have been canceled by Donald Trump, as there are fears that he simply doesn't have the energy or the wherewithal to really take serious, difficult questions where he will be pressed. CNN reporting that Trump was scheduled to do an interview on economic policy with NBC News today that has been, quote, postponed. The postponement is indefinite. So you tell me whether postponed or canceled is the right term. The Atlanta Journal Constitution is now reporting that Trump was going to be doing an NRA rally

with Trump in Savannah, Georgia tomorrow. That has now been canceled. Trump does have other things on the calendar tomorrow, Tuesday. And Donald Trump also for tomorrow canceling an interview with CNBC's Squawk Box. Say what you want about CNBC. That is an interview where he would have gotten real questions and real pushback, including from Andrew Ross Sorkin, probably not from Joe Kernan, but maybe. But I can assure you that Trump's claims about the economy where he doesn't

even understand how tariffs work would not have stood up to any scrutiny from Andrew Ross Sorkin. That's been canceled. Trump recently canceling 60 Minutes under certainly a black cloud of suspicion that it went so poorly last time he did it, that that's the last place he wants to go anywhere near. And also, of course, as you know, refusing to agree to a second debate with Vice President Kamala Harris after he delivered one of the worst debate performances in American history during that debate with Kamala Harris some months ago, some weeks ago. So what's going on?

The speculation is sort of obvious. Number one is it's led by Trump. Trump is saying, I'm too damn tired. I'm I'm exhausted. That's one possibility. And Trump did appear to fall asleep at a campaign event over the weekend. There is no doubt that, you know, you're 78. You sleep supposedly four hours a night. You're all over the place doing staged photo ops at McDonald's and this and that and traveling on an airplane where the you know, the the the atmosphere on a plane is like being up at, I think, on a 757, like seven thousand feet. It's all exhausting, admittedly, and it would be exhausting for me.

And Trump's 78 and he's clearly exhausted and he's the one saying, I can't do it, guys. Second possibility, I guess we would say, is that he is really worrying his campaign that he is not going to be able to get through these interviews without making a complete and total fool of himself, humiliating himself and hurting his own cause. So that's that's also a possibility. It could also be both. But needless to say, the cancellations are coming fast and furious now. And if you look at Trump's schedule over the next week, I'm not doing that. He's he's in the basement thing. He's not in the basement. He's doing events, but they're carefully curated events. The McDonald's where he

served fries at over the weekend was actually we found out that the McDonald's was reportedly closed. The gist was, oh, Trump's working. Wow. Someone comes through the drive through. I'm so surprised to see you here. The report is that the entire restaurant was closed and the whole thing was staged. So it's all got to be cushy. It's all got to be easy for Trump at this stage of the game. And if you need a reminder as to how poorly it goes, when anything goes differently than what is planned, we need only look at Trump's event over the weekend in Detroit, Michigan. Donald Trump wandered around the stage for 17 minutes after a massive verbal glitch and a disastrous audio glitch at this Michigan rally. We have not seen something like this, I think, for the entire campaign to date. And it's very different than what we've been seeing in recent rallies. So

first, let me talk to you about this big glitch. Trump glitched on Kamala starting to say Kalam and then doing one of his infamous glitches. Saudi Arabia and Russia will repeat. Oh, exactly. Here is Trump glitching while trying to say Kamala's name as a senator. Kala Kala. What is happening cognitively? We don't know. So this set Trump up for his mic to glitch. It was verbal glitch after technical glitch. We don't know if Antifa or Black Lives Matter or communists or Marxists or socialists or

anarchists were running the audio at Trump's rally. But the mic cuts out. Trump infuriated, sort of sulking around on stage for 17 minutes. The CEO of Bloomberg interviewed me and I think he understood it. And I think the Wall Street Journal now understands it because to me, the most beautiful word in the dictionary, it's not love. It's not respect. OK, so Trump's mic has now cut out.

Trump doesn't yet notice it. And now he notices it. He starts looking around. He's not pleased. He's pointing to his mic. Now he's upset. He's looking to his left. He's speaking.

OK, I'm obviously, although it would make an interesting podcast episode to play 17 minutes of silence, I'm not going to do that to you. I respect the audience too much to play 17 minutes of silence as Trump sort of sulks and skulks around the stage. But as you can see here, Trump looking around and then he kind of wanders off and so on and so forth. Imagine if it was President Biden who did this. And this is emblematic of what a Trump presidency would be like.

Here is Trump continuing to wander around, pissed off with no audio. Just so that everybody who's watching right now understands what's happening. They're clearly having a microphone issue. We saw a person bring two microphones over to the president that were unsuccessful. Now, you know, it's fantastic is they brought the mics to the president. Well, why would you hand them to Biden? This is a Trump rally. Speaker 5 President Trump's team came to us here at RSPN to see if we could help out with one

of our microphones. And our camera operator, Will Lawrence, he actually just jumped into action. And he right now is working on a heroic right wing media guy jumped into action. So Trump then blaming the entire city of Detroit for the microphone failure. And I don't want him to get up and use this crappy microphone that they sent. I don't want him to do that. I want to keep him good and healthy. Unlike Trump, I want him to have his voice tomorrow. When I get up tomorrow and I can't speak, I'm going to say Detroit did it to me. There you go. And then a very grumpy and exhausted Trump saying he won't pay the audio bill. Thank you. So now what happens is I won't pay the bill for this stupid company that

rented us this crap. I won't pay the bill. And then we'll have a story that Trump didn't pay the bill as if Trump needed an excuse not to pay the bill because that's his go to. So then we get to the point where people are just leaving while Trump is speaking. This is the middle of the rally. People on stage are leaving the border. She's a grossly incompetent person. And we can't let this happen. We have to get the hell out and vote and get them out of here. Off they go. All right. So people leaving while Trump is speaking.

And then at the end of the speech, Trump indicating that he is completely exhausted and blowing out his voice, which certainly doesn't contradict the allegations that he is completely exhausted and blowing out his voice, which certainly doesn't contradict the allegations that he's just exhausted and he can't do this. Day in America. And when I get rid of this microphone at the end of this speech, it's going to be Liberation Day for Donald J. Trump because I'm blowing out my voice to get this sucker done. I'm blowing out my voice, but I'm going to get through this speech because you're from Detroit. We're going to turn this place around. We're going to. All right. So Trump clearly struggling there with his voice, which only reinforces the claims that he is exhausted. And then with an unorthodox closing message for a presidential campaign, you don't usually see a presidential campaign closed out like this.

Trump's messages get your fat husband off the couch. Early voting is underway, so get everyone you know and go out and vote. Go tomorrow. It's just starting. Go and vote. Go tomorrow. It's just starting. Go and vote. Make sure you vote and bring all our friends that want to vote for us. Tell him, Jill, get your fat husband off the couch. Get that. By the way, I don't know if when he says Jill, he means Jill Biden and he's referring to Joe Biden, which is weird because Joe Biden's of

normal weight and Trump is obese. Why is he saying Biden's fat? Everything is just every every instance of this stuff is really more about Trump than it is whoever he's targeting. Get that fat pig off the couch. Tell him to go and vote for Trump. He's going to save our country. Get that guy the hell off. Get him up. You slap him around.

Get him up. All right. So Trump really rallying the voters with what a crazy year. Trump really rallying the base with allegations of being fat, hurled at other people and being pigs. And I mean, listen, he he he referred to Rosie O'Donnell as a fat pig in 2016 and he became president. So maybe he knows more than I do. And this is a good strategy, but not a typical end of campaign message. Wow. We have let's look at this as optimistically as possible. Possible. We might only have a few more days of this before Trump ism. It goes to the dustbin of history, OK? As Ron DeSanctimonious would say, let's hope that that's where we are. And it's just a couple more weeks and then no more.

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The link is in the podcast notes. Well, at another whacked out town hall style rally in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Donald Trump strongly denied that he has any cognitive issue, nothing wrong with his brain, nothing wrong with his memory. Just moments after completely forgetting the name of the woman interviewing him. Uh, oh, it's just, it just, you can't write this stuff. You really can't. Here is Donald Trump showing his insecurities, showing what he is worried about, saying, I have no cognitive problem.

I have no cognitive insisting. And Sage Steele, the host and anchor of this event, I don't know that she seems totally convinced, even though she's a right winger. But the one thing they said that was great. We've watched this guy for 20 years. The one thing we know is that he's got no cognitive problem. I have no cognitive. She may have a cognitive problem, but but there's no cognitive problem. It was nice that they actually said that. They said, you know, if anyone has any questions,

we would grill in this guy for two hours or two and a half hours. Got no cognitive. In fact, if anything, he's maybe better. I don't even know if I like this. Maybe he's better than he was 20 years ago. So anyway, no. Yeah, no, no, no, no problem whatsoever. And then here is Donald Trump within moments of the start of this

event, forgetting the name of the host Sage calling her page. Thank you very much. Thank you. Let's have a little fun page. Okay. Oh my goodness. You just can't write this stuff. You really can't. Uh, Trump's next, uh, insecurity or vulnerability is he recognizes that he's the old guy in the race and there's nothing wrong with that. But when you built a year and a half of your campaign against Joe Biden based on Biden's age and you're like a year and a half or two and a half years younger, it now starts to become a problem when you are the oldest part, a major political party nominee in American history.

And your opponent, Kamala Harris, had a birthday at which she turned 60. So here is Trump going, I'm nowhere close to 80. I'm not 80. I'm really not. Hold on. Let's get the right leaders in the world. And I'm not 80 and I'm not that close to 80. But in the Biden case, he's 81 or 82.

Donald Trump will be 80 in 20 months, about 600 days in 20 months. Donald Trump will be 80. Trump's cognitive and memory issues continuing throughout this event. you might know that Trump loves to refer to oil, petroleum as liquid gold. He talks about we have liquid. We have liquid gold right beneath our feet. He repeats it at every rally. He seems disoriented. He seems confused. He's unable to raise that phrase from the depths of his mind. And I'm telling you, I made it. I said at the beginning, I say it again. We have more liquid.

Think of it. We have more gasoline and gas and we have oil. Right. Trump becoming confused, doing the shoulder glitch, looking for different words. What he was looking for was liquid gold. He couldn't find it in his brain. And so he moves on. It's happening a dozen times at every rally. Trump affecting what he calls the weave where he brilliantly and articulately very erudite weaving together different topics and

statistics and knowledge. But it's not landing. It's not making any sense. He just seems disoriented. Energy is so big. It's so like amorphous. It's all over the place. If you make donuts, it's a stove and the truck to bring them to wherever they're being delivered. And at this point, sage steel seeming increasingly uncomfortable. And finally, Trump quacking like a duck on the stage. So we're going to let him frack, frack, frack, like a duck, frack, frack, frack, frack, frack, like a duck. There you go. Donald Trump doing impressions.

So the crowd at this one, not particularly engaged. And one of the really interesting things that's going on is you see the push pull between Trump and his campaign. The campaign is thinking to itself, this is my speculation. Of course, this entire show is my speculation at the end of the day. What I mean is I give my opinion on the show. What I'm about to tell you is just my opinion. My guess as to what's going on here is that Trump's campaign team sees that when he's given a speech to read off of a teleprompter rather than being

70 minutes, it ends up being two hours, two and a half hours because Trump goes off script. He glitches, he gets disoriented, he gets confused. It ends up going too long. Trump's exhausted. He's saying horrible things that make no sense. So they think, let's set it up so that it plays to Trump's strengths. I guess what Trump's strengths are at this point kind of is a mystery, but they imagine let's play up Trump being interrupted a little bit by questions so he can't just rant for two hours.

So they set up one of these town halls. The problem is that he's asked relatively simple questions and he can't or won't answer them and he seems confused and it becomes even more obvious that he's not answering the question either because he doesn't want to or he's unable to. So at this point, I don't really know what format best suits Trump. It's clearly not a debate format against Kamala Harris. It's clearly not an interview format like he recently had with the Economic Club of Chicago, I believe it's called.

It's clearly not a two and a half hour speech where he rants and raves and it's clearly not a town hall event with voters. So I don't know if there is a favorable format for Trump at this point in time. And if you think, well, what about a friendly interview? I'm going to show you a friendly interview now and you'll see it also doesn't go particularly well. Donald Trump sat down over the weekend with Fox News's Howie Kurtz. Howie Kurtz loves having a reputation for being a tough interviewer.

But is he really a tough interviewer when he interviews someone like Trump? Well, I'll play a couple of clips and you can be the judge. Most interestingly, during this interview, Donald Trump doubling down on they're reading the cats, they're eating the dogs, they're eating the pets. Trump confronted to a degree by Howie Kurtz, who said it's been debunked. Are you now ready to take it back? Take it back.

And Trump says, what about the goose? I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. Those things. Your famous line about Springfield, Ohio. I'm't know. I don't know if it's true or not. I read something that you don't know if it's true or not true. It's been the month. Well, they say, what about the goose?

The geese? What about the geese? What happened there? They're all missing. Exactly. What about the goose? The goose and the geese are gone. They're good by gone.

Goose and geese. Good by gone. Narcissists never apologize. Trump never apologizes. He's never apologized. I don't I'm not aware of any time in public life since Trump has entered politics that he has apologized. And no matter what you catch him with, he will not apologize.

Sir, weren't you wrong about the trajectory of the hurricane? It wasn't really going to Alabama. Oh, really? Here's a map with a sharpied in bubble and it shows that this is the direction. But didn't you write that in yourself just now? No, this is from meteorologists. Narcissists never apologize. And if you're wondering a goose, what is he talking about? There was a picture after we found no evidence that they were eating the cats, eating the dogs. After there was no evidence found of that, someone posted a picture of a guy walking with two dead geese.

I believe the guy was black, but not Haitian, just a guy from Ohio. And apparently that was like a wildlife expert of some kind. There were a couple of dead geese found in the area. And the guy whose job it is to grab the dead animals grabbed him. And Trump's like, I don't know. What about the goose? There's this missing goose. It's been debunked. Trump will never apologize. Howie Kurtz asking Trump about referring to the January 6th riots as a day of love. And Trump said there was beauty on that day. I think so. They had no guns. They had no guns. So that was a peaceful. So you're comfortable with a day of love. No, you wouldn't modify that. I'm talking about when I

made that speech. I've never seen anything like it. They came down to protest a rigged election. Very simple. They protested an election. And you know what? I think you have the right to protest in this country. I think so. They had it was there was a certain beauty to what happened on January 6th. Why not? Authoritarian insanity, authoritarian insanity. And as we continue to build up a picture of what

a second Donald Trump term would be like, we have to come to terms and not come to terms with and acknowledge that a free and independent media would be under attack. Trump again reiterates if he wins, he wants to have unilateral power to say, I don't like your media outlet. You're off the air. I don't like what you said about me. You're off the air. And Trump, again, saying he wants the power to take 60 minutes off the air. I'm sorry to take CBS off the air because he doesn't like what 60 minutes is up to. But you go a step further and you say CBS should lose its license. Well, I've never seen anything like it. She gave a horrible, incompetent dancer on a news program.

It's not an entertainment program. They call it news. They say it's a number one news program. By the way, the I don't know if that's an elevator that continues to ding in the background or if they're doing the interview near a kitchen where they're hitting the your food is ready bell. But that is a weird bit of noise to accent this interview. Trump has been clear. He wants CBS off the air because of 60 minutes. He wants ABC off the air because they fact checked him twice

during his interview with Kamala Harris. He wants MSNBC off the air because he just doesn't like their editorial stance. He banned certain reporters from the press briefing room when he was president. This is a clear and present danger to media of all kinds, corporate media, independent media, any critical media. And finally, as the interview winds down, Donald Trump saying even the generals that don't like him, he does not respect as soldiers. I thought it was support and respect the troops above all. I guess not. General Jim Mattis, who was your secretary of defense, has now joined General Mark Milley, who was your chairman of the Joint Chiefs in saying this is their quote. You are the most dangerous person ever.

I assume you'd like to respond. Well, they were not my cup of tea. They were they were woke. You know that they were not great. It's funny when when I see Jim Mattis interviewed, woke is not exactly the first word that comes to mind. Not even close. And also, in my opinion, I was asking them advice. I didn't agree with the advice. Look at the advice that Milley gave to Biden on Afghanistan. Move the soldiers out first. Now you have to move the soldiers out

last. I don't respect them as soldiers. I never did. I don't respect them as soldiers. I never did. What happened to the Republican Party that always said, even if I don't agree with the person that's president right now, America is great. Isn't this American exceptionalism belief a core part of Republicanism? Well, it used to be. It's not anymore. Now, Trump regularly says America is not great anymore. What happened to they support the troops and always respect their service, especially when Trump himself got a letter about his feet to not have to be drafted.

Nope, still not. He never respected the generals that turned out not to like Trump or to feel it's not even about like it's more like they just don't think he should be president. What happened to we respect the service of those who choose to serve? Well, it went out the window when they didn't all lay down and pray at the altar of Trump. All of those principles they claim to adhere to really need to be reconsidered because as soon as they're inconvenient, they go right out the window. Donald Trump has made it clear in a truth social post that if he gets elected, he will

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20 percent off with the code Pacman. Go to Sheath underwear dot com slash Pacman. That's S.H.E.A.T.H. We'll be right back. At the strangest political rally I've maybe ever seen in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, Donald Trump fantasized about the size of another man's. He waxed poetic about the impressive demand dimensions of another man's twig and berries, telling his rally crowd all about another man's apple bags and baton. He was speaking of the late golfer Arnold Palmer and talking about the impressive size of his. Mm hmm. Listen to this old man. This man was strong and tough. And I refuse to say it. But when he took showers with the other pros, they came out of there. They said, oh, my God, that's unbelievable. I had to say it. I had to say we have women that are highly sophisticated here, but they used to look at our lizard bed. But he was real. Yeah. Trump is as coherent as he is going to be from this day forward on this day in

Latrobe, Pennsylvania. This is the peak relative to a week from now, a month from now, a year from now. He's going to get more incoherent. He's going to get more sociopathic. He's going to get more paranoid, delusional and deranged. And even though the part of the Arnold Palmer rant that got the most attention was the discussion of the size of his member. Trump went on about Arnold Palmer for five minutes, 10 minutes.

Other than the penis size portion, the crowd was basically dead. This is weird, even by Trump standards. Hollywood stars and it became the biggest of those companies like William Morris and all of them. And it was all because of Arnold. Arnold owned a big piece of it. Arnold was a very rich man. And I said to Arnold, I got to know him when he was 69 years old. And I played pretty much

with him, a lot of them. And as he got older, you know, when you get older, you start to lose a thing called distance. And I'm a good golfer. Not anyway. So Trump's talking and talking and talking about Arnold Palmer. We don't know why it doesn't make any sense. Eventually he gets past that part of the rally and he goes on to the insults against Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris, that you've had enough

that you just can't take it anymore. We can't stand you. You're a shit vice president. The worst. You're the worst vice president with these people, there's probably some broader explanation as to why the audio is just a disaster. But we were able to hear him say that Kamala is a shit vice president, as Donald Trump said there. Maybe the most horrifying. I want to use the term policy, but is this even policy? Maybe Trump's most terrifying suggestion from the Latrobe Pennsylvania rally was when he would say when he said that if he doesn't like a state law, he'll just overturn it.

Like for example, there's California election law that Trump doesn't like. He says he'll just overturn it. Did you see the other day he signed a bill that you are not even allowed to ask a person whether or not they have voter I.D. If you ask them, it's a criminal penalty. If you ask if you say, sir, I'd like to see your voter I.D. They want to put you in jail for saying that we're not going to say I'm going to get that thing overturned so fast.

He just signed the bill. There you go. This is terrifying. And you might be saying to yourself, you know, earlier in the show, we talked about how all Republicans always say America is always great, except now Trump doesn't say that. OK, well, they always say we respect the troops, we support the troops, we cherish their service. Trump doesn't say that anymore. He says that there are generals who don't support him, who he doesn't respect as soldiers. OK, well, they always talk about states rights. We defer to states.

States get the power. It's beautiful. I got Roe v. Wade repealed and states can now do whatever they need to do because that's the way the country was designed. Not when it comes to election law. All of a sudden, Trump says, I'm going to get that overturned. I don't like this law in California. It's because the principles do not matter to them.

They don't care. Trump earlier in the weekend said, make sure you're voting vote by mail, vote early. And yet in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, Trump attacked mail in ballots once again. Because we want ultimately one day voting. We want paper ballots. We want voter ID and we want proof of citizenship. And we're finished. I will have quick, fair elections that will cost eight percent of the cost of these very beautiful, fancy machines that go up to Mars and around and down and all over the place. You ever see this?

Where the machines, we spend all this money on machines, and then they announce, we expect to have the results like seven days after the election. If you had paper ballots, you get them at 10 o'clock. France went to paper because what we did didn't work. The mail mail in ballots didn't work. France had them. And you know what? Didn't work. So Trump is attacking mail in ballots. Yet here he is in Arizona just a few days ago saying, hey, vote, vote by mail, early voting by mail and in-person opened in Arizona

earlier this week. So if you have a ballot, return it immediately. And if not, go vote. Get your you know what? There you go. So mail in ballots are bad or mail in ballots are good. Who the hell knows? Who the hell cares?

As long as Trump wins? And then finally, Donald Trump ending the rally with his now notorious double jerking dance. You will also notice the audio completely degenerating. I can't tell if the audio is out of phase. I can't tell if there is some kind of strange feedback loop or a microphone put up to him. I don't know. Here is a very problematic song playing in terms of the audio. The song is fine. And Trump doing is now infamous dance.

Oh, we are going to be so, so thrilled when this is all over now, whether it's all over in two weeks or whether it's all over in four and a half years, that's going to be up to the voters. Remember Sleepy Joe? Those days are gone. It's now Sleepy Don. Let me explain. Donald Trump appeared to fall asleep during a campaign event the other day. This was in Michigan. This only reinforces the belief that Trump is absolutely exhausted and simply not up to it. Here is video where Donald Trump is unable to keep his eyes open. He is he's sleeping. I don't know how else to say it. And of course, every allegation is a confession.

It is they who will steal the election. Well, Trump tried to steal it in 2020. It is Sleepy Joe. It's Trump who fell asleep at his criminal trial. It's Trump who fell asleep at this campaign event in Michigan. As you can see here, every single one of these allegations actually is a confession. And, you know, it you know, it's not going well when the part of this whole thing that Trump really seemed to enjoy, which is showing up and saying ridiculous stuff

to people who will cheer for any damn thing he says. Right. The sycophant tours and the whole thing, even that he can't stay away from. And it's just a reminder that he is, after all, the oldest major party nominee ever to be nominated for president. We have to acknowledge reality, which is he's not up for it. He's not fit to do it. He can barely speak.

Saudi Arabia and Russia will repeat. Whenever a political instinct or policy idea does squeeze its way through the glitches and the confusion and the sleeping and the canceling of interviews whenever we actually get a policy idea. It's absolutely authoritarian and dystopian. It's I'm going to take some media outlets I don't like off the air. It's all overturned state laws that I don't like, even though I claim to support states rights.

It's I'll do mass deportations of people with militarized detention camps, which was what we we I thought we said Obama did that with the FEMA camps and nope, it's actually Trump who wants to do it. He's not up for it, guys. He can't do it. And it's time that we decide let's not make him do it. OK, let's let him go and do his golfing at Mar-a-Lago where he cheats and the whole thing. Let's let him do something more suited to his current cognitive and physical abilities. Another Russian oligarch fell out a window and died. Total accident. It's just they need to do. This is really a story not about Putin's brutal authoritarianism. The repeated stories of Russian oligarchs falling out of windows and dying in Russia.

It's a building code story. The code is just not up to keeping these oligarchs inside the buildings. And so they keep falling out. Nearly a dozen Russian energy executives have died in what we would call mysterious or suspicious circumstances over the last two years. Newsweek reports Russian oligarch found dead in Moscow after falling out of a window. Former senior energy industry executive was found dead following a suspected suicide. The latest that that's according to Russian state media. This is Mikhail Rogachev, 64. He was the former VP of the disbanded energy firm Yukos.

He died after falling from a window. Law enforcement source said that his body was found on the street in the Russian capital and that, quote, the the main version of his death is suicide. The man suffered from cancer. I guess the implication that. He couldn't take his condition due to the cancer anymore and decided to take his own life. The Telegram channel VCHK OGPU, which claims to be linked to Russian Intel, says that while he did have health problems, they weren't critical.

He was in touch with his family. There was no reason at all to suspect that he might take his own life. Scattered papers were found on the floor of his residence where he blamed his doctor for a botched operation from 2018. The Telegram channel says his body was found by a driver of the former deputy director of Russia's intelligence service, the SVR. A lot of you I know often say, David, why? Why do they make it so obvious they always accidentally fall

out a window or it's a suicide? What what's going on here? That's the point. It's intentional. If they don't make it obvious, people might assume it really was an accident when it obviously was not an accident. And the fact that it keeps happening is meant to remind us of the power that they have. They are sending a message. If you consider stepping out of line, then you might fall out of a window. And the method also isn't an accident because it's relatively easy to shoot someone. It's a little bit less easy to stab someone or to poison someone. But there is a physical strength requirement to throw someone or to poison someone. But there is a physical strength requirement

to throw someone out of a window. They want people to know that they are strong. You think you can resist now? We'll toss you out of a window. It's Putin's brand. It's Putin's calling card. And remember the guy from Luke oil who fell from the hospital window under suspicious circumstances? And again, it was like, oh, he was in the hospital and he was so riddled with angst over his condition that he took his own life and and also the CCTV cameras that would have covered what happened. They were off for repairs. And it's all nothing to see here. This is what Trump is impressed by. This is what Trump is enamored with. He's enamored with the strength of Putin. Wow. He doesn't he doesn't tolerate those who go

against him. He demands loyalty. He's impressed with the quick trials of China under Xi, where the defendant is always found guilty very quickly and then executed. He's enamored with all of it. It's not for me. I prefer democracy. That's call me crazy. Call me old fashioned. Is it conservative of me to prefer the democracy? But this is the sort of stuff that authoritarians love. And obviously, we don't believe the story for a second. On the bonus show today. We are going to talk about the McDonald's stunt that Donald Trump pulled. We will talk about the passing of Philip Zimbardo, the author of the controversial Stanford prison experiment. He's been a guest on the show.

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