The David Pakman Show - 10/30/23: Most dangerous Speaker in history as Trump's brain fails badly

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

-- On the Show: -- Republican Speaker of the House Mike Johnson is, by far, the most dangerous and extreme Speaker in modern political history -- 2024 Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis is interviewed by NBC's Kristen Welker and the interview goes horribly wrong for DeSantis -- Failed former President Donald Trump forgets what city he is in during an event in Sioux City, Iowa, yet another apparent cognitive incident -- Failed former President Donald Trump once again rants about "hummus" as major cognitive concerns grow -- Derange and dangerous former President Donald Trump cannot stop glitching, with another series of cognitive "beauties" during a speech in Las Vegas -- Former Vice President Mike Pence ends his 2024 Republican presidential primary campaign after failing to secure even 4% support in polling -- Actor Matthew Perry's death at age 54 immediately triggers a series of unfounded COVID vaccine conspiracies -- Actress Roseanne Barr appears on the PBD Podcast with Patrick Bet-David and unleashes unhinged conspiracy theories about Donald Trump currently being Commander in Chief due to some "2015 executive orders" -- Republicans in Colorado turn on Republican Congresswoman Lauren Boebert after her public sex act fiasco -- Voicemail caller is very concerned that Donald Trump does not like dogs -- On the Bonus Show: Maine Congressman apologies for opposing assault ban after shooting, Chicago considering opening a municipal grocery store, ChatGPT's latest upgrades are getting insane, much more... 🔊 Babbel: Get 55% off your subscription at https://babbel.com/pakman 🚽 Hello TUSHY bidets: Get 10% off with code PAKMAN at https://hellotushy.com/pakman 🧠 Mindbloom: Use code PAKMAN for $100 off at https://mindbloom.com/pakman ⚠️ Try Ground News and get 30% OFF the Vantage plan at https://ground.news/pakman 😁 Zippix Toothpicks: Code PAKMAN10 saves you 10% at https://zippixtoothpicks.com 👩‍❤️‍👨 Try the Paired App FREE for 7 days and get 25% OFF at https://paired.com/pakman -- Become a Supporter: http://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/thedavidpakmanshow -- Subscribe to Pakman Live: https://www.youtube.com/pakmanlive -- Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/davidpakmanshow -- Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave us a message at The David Pakman Show Voicemail Line (219)-2DAVIDP

Speaker 1 We've had the weekend now to learn a lot more about the new Republican speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. And it is not an exaggeration to say that this is the most radical and ideologically extreme Speaker of the House in modern political history. You know, it's hard to go and say in the history of the United States, Mike Johnson may well be the most extreme Speaker of the House in the history of the country. But when we talk about the full history of the country, norms and context, everything has changed. It's less easy to make such an apples to apples comparison. Certainly in my lifetime, this is the most extreme and radical speaker of the House we

have ever had. We knew that Mike Johnson was a MAGA extremist. We knew that he played up the, oh, Joe Biden didn't really win in 2020 stuff. But it turns out that that is just a sliver of the totality of Mike Johnson's extremism. And part of what happened over the last week is that Johnson's rise to power was so quick. Nobody was talking about this guy as a serious candidate. Next thing you know, he's speaker of the House. We only now have had the opportunity to do a deep dove into his career and his positions. It's been done and it is utterly horrifying.

Let's go through some of it with video. Johnson is a 2020 election denier. We knew that close ties to Trump truly magas maga, I guess we could say. But on every issue, he's a radical. He called wind and solar power the most inefficient energy sources we have. He said living near wind turbines can cause depression and cognitive dysfunction. Maybe that explains why Trump's mush mouth these days. Maybe he's living near a wind turbine. In 2016, Johnson gave a sermon where he said that mass shootings are caused by teaching evolution in schools like this is this is not just I'd like lower taxes than you would.

This is very serious stuff on cannabis. I mean, obviously, he exposed the opposed the expansion of medical marijuana in Louisiana, the state he's from. Johnson also joined the Republican state attorney general Jeff Landry and Christian evangelist Kirk Cameron, the TV guy, to argue under the First Amendment for student led prayer and religion in schools. Of course, that's the opposite of what the Constitution actually calls for. Johnson co-sponsored federal legislation which would ban abortions once a fetal heartbeat is detected. That's usually around six weeks into a pregnancy.

No exceptions for any kind of illness. Just period. That's it. Fetal heartbeat. No abortion would be one of the most extreme abortion standards, I guess we would call it in the country. He once wrote that homosexuality will lead to, quote, chaos and sexual anarchy and described it as, quote, inherently unnatural and a dangerous lifestyle. He also wanted to criminalize gay sex. He wrote in favor of criminalization of gay sex. This is the epitome of the Christian nationalist. Now, he also seems like one of these. I hate to use this word because

the word is so morally loaded. But do I even I was going to say a pervert, but I don't even know that I want to go in that direction. He's just one of these really strange guys. He was talking about his wife being worn out from being on her knees last week. He married his wife in what's called a covenant marriage. Now, if regular marriage isn't enough for you, you can avail yourself of something called covenant marriage. Covenant marriage is like a it's like a hardcore marriage. Only a few states have it in Louisiana. They have it. And if you as part of a couple choose to enter into a covenant marriage, these people are so insane. You agree to undergo premarital counseling before you can even consider getting a divorce. You have to get marital counseling if there's trouble during the marriage.

You are limited in the reasons for which you're allowed to get a divorce. Now, Mike Johnson also has bemoaned and decried no fault divorce. No fault divorce just means if I don't want to be married anymore, I can choose not to be married anymore. I don't have to prove to anyone and give anyone an approved reason for wanting a divorce. Mike Johnson is against that. And he personally is in a covenant marriage where there's all these requirements. You're required to live apart for a bunch of time before you can get a divorce. It's bonkers stuff. He also, by the way, has said that democracy is not so good. Really what we need is biblical law, the epitome of trumping all over separation of church

and state and Christian nationalism. Here is Mike Johnson from a few years ago. You know, we don't live in a democracy because a democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what's for dinner. OK, it's not just majority rule. It's a constitutional republic. And the founders set that up because they followed the biblical admonition on what a civil society is supposed to look like.

You know, we don't live in a democracy. There you go. It I mean, listen, we democracy. Forget about that. That's what the Speaker of the House who believed that Trump actually won the 2020 action to a 2020 election believes about democracy. He also has blamed the problems in the country, including mass shootings on things like no fault divorce. Here is a speech he gave, you know, at one of these crazy right wing events. I think this is one of the right wing events where evangelicals pretend to like Jews in reality because they think that supporting Israel will bring about the second coming of Jesus Christ.

This is bonkers apocalyptic rapture stuff. In reality, because they think that supporting Israel will bring about the second coming of Jesus Christ. This is bonkers apocalyptic rapture stuff. Here is Mike Johnson. This is now the speaker of the House. Dangerous radical. Some of you are around in the late 60s. You remember that what that was about? The counterculture revolution, Woodstock and drugs and peace and free love and all that.

But more about the undermining of the foundations of religion and morality. Because if you remember in the late 60ss we invented things like no fault divorce laws we invented the sexual revolution we invented radical feminism we invented legalized abortion in 1973 it was invented for the state the government sanctions the killing of the unborn all these things happened because as collectively as amer, we began to get together in growing numbers and thumb our nose at the creator and say, we don't believe that anymore. We're rejecting the founders natural law philosophy in favor of moral relativism. And we are going down another path.

This is this is a full on extremist. This is now the most powerful member of the House of Representatives. Well, we tolerate in moderation our children, excuse and excess. What happens when you fast forward another 30 or 40 years? Well, here's a picture's worth a thousand words. Go to the next one for me. I mean, we know that we're living in a completely amoral society. And so people say, how can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates? Because we've taught a whole generation, couple of generations now of Americans that there is no right and wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest and you evolve from the primordial slime.

Why is that life of any sacred value? Because they're slime sounds about right when thinking about this guy. So why is having an extremist, the Speaker of the House, so dangerous? This is the critical part so that once you understand it, you can decide I want to vote in 2024 or I don't care about this. I don't want to vote. The Speaker of the House is second in the line of succession to be president of the United States. You've got the vice president and then the Speaker of the House. This extremist lunatic ideologue is now after the vice president in the line of succession to be president of the United States.

If that doesn't scare you, I don't know what will. More practically, the speaker of the House sets the legislative agenda in the House of Representatives, decides which bills come to the floor. An extremist speaker can prioritize harmful, divisive legislation, potentially leading to the enactment of policies that undermine democracy, which Mike Johnson would clearly like to do and can simply keep out, keep off the floor, sensible and important legislation. The speaker of the House plays a major role in determining committee assignments. And what they can do is they can take over every committee, committee on education, committee,

whatever area you care about. The committee can be taken over by the extremist brown nosers who suck up to Mike Johnson. They take over the committees. An extremist speaker can directly oppose a president's agenda if they're from a different party or they can support it if they're from a different party or they can support it if they're from the same party. And so now Mike Johnson can oppose everything Joe Biden wants to do. And if Trump becomes president in 24 and Republicans keep the House and Mike Johnson stays a speaker, can rubber stamp everything that Trump wants to do. That's insane. And also

the speaker of the House influences the rules of the House themselves. And as we know, the more extreme Republicans love to change the rules in the House for their perceived benefit. Sometimes it backfires, sometimes it doesn't, but it's for their perceived benefit. So this is truly a disaster. And when I talk about Christian nationalists getting into positions of power, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene, she's in the House. Next thing you know, she could be in a position of power. This is the sort of thing we're talking about. Mike Johnson embodies exactly that. So it's another reason to say we have to vote a year from now. It's basically a year almost to the day from now, November of 2024.

If Democrats take the House, this guy is done. Even if Democrats don't take the House, but are able to prevent DeSantis or Trump or Nikki Haley or whoever from becoming president, then at least there will be no insane Oval Office agenda for Mike Johnson's House of Representatives to rubber stamp and to pass. So whatever we think is the most likely outcome in 2024, we must vote to make it the least bad outcome possible. This is the worst of the worst of modern Maga. And as Matt Gaetz said last week, the guy is right.

He's wrong about a lot of things, but he's right about this. MAGA is still in control. And when you see MAGA kick out Kevin McCarthy, by the way, not a moderate guy, just not insane enough to be MAGA. They kick out Kevin McCarthy and they put in Mike Johnson. You realize that MAGA is still in control and it is an extremely scary thing. Ron DeSantis is involved in a presidential campaign that is all but dead. He had a completely whacked appearance yesterday on NBC's Meet the Press. He was interviewed by Kristen Welker. I'm not going to play the entire thing. It's quite vomitous, but I'm going to play for you a really funny 50 seconds from this thing. Ron DeSantis cited the usual stats about how low crime is in Florida, how much lower

crime is in Florida than when he became governor. Kristen Welker predicting, obviously, that the San DeSantis would go this route was prepared with the numbers. Firearm homicides are actually up in Florida. I don't know if DeSantis pretends not to be able to understand what she's saying, but this goes really badly for him. He looks visibly confused. Check it out. This is basically the embodiment of the entire DeSantis candidacy. You can look, you know, in Florida, our crime rates at a 50 year low and our violent crime rates down 30 percent since I've been governor. So so we're handling it strong. Governor, actually, statistically speaking, the CDC says that the fire mortality rate is actually higher under your administration than it was under your predecessor's administration.

But I do want to move on to the campaign. And just the what mortality rate? No, no firearm mortality rate. But. Was actually higher than your predecessors. That's according to the CDC. Let me move on to the campaign. All right.

Because well, because you had COVID and all that stuff, right? COVID and all that stuff increased the firearm rate mortality. What? What is he talking about? Mortality? Is that what you're saying? That went up everywhere in the country from 2020 on. Our fire. The fire on mortality. Let me move on to the campaign because I want to let you. I mean, I don't know if he's pretending not to know what she's talking about or if he genuinely doesn't know what she's talking about, if he doesn't know the owns his own statistics of what's going on. And I don't know what the explanation is. The entire interview went

about that poorly. And when you see that, any normal person would say, how is this guy even running for the Republican nomination? How is this guy still a contender? And the answer is he's increasingly kind of not. And if we look at recent polling and we'll do a deeper dive on polling at the end of the week or something like that, DeSantis campaign seems dead. DeSantis is the green line down the middle of your screen here and where he was once polling more than 31 percent among the Republican primary. He's now been stuck between 12 and 13, going all the way back for months. Nikki Haley continues surging. Nikki's now at eight and the sanctus is at 12. It very well may be the case that in a month, as I said, Nikki Haley may actually be the one in

second place. So the DeSantis campaign, no momentum, no charisma, no common sense, no factual basis for even saying I should be the next president of the United States. That's how poorly it's going. And he may genuinely find himself. People were talking about DeSantis pushing into first place when it was early January. The difference between Trump and DeSantis was only about 12 or 13 points. DeSantis is now almost 50 points behind Trump and risks falling into third place. He doesn't seem to be ready to end his campaign. Mike Pence did end his campaign, and we'll talk about that later. But DeSantis may soon find himself even lower

than second place. I don't see any path to this nomination for him. If you see a path for DeSantis to the nomination, I'm curious to hear what it is. Let me know. I don't know which early primary state DeSantis is well positioned to overperform that will then, I guess, give him some momentum into subsequent primaries. I'm just not seeing it. If you see it, let me know and I'll gladly follow up about it. Let's take a very quick break and we'll be back with so much more. You know, one of the odd things that goes on in bathrooms in the United States, where is this going, is, you know, when I moved to the U.S. from Argentina, there's really no bidets in the United States. The bidet is just a part of life in Argentina. And why would you make a compromise in the bathroom? Why not have the elevated level

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Donald Trump got the name of the city that he was speaking in wrong, once again raising concerns about cognitive decline. Trump giving a series of speeches over the weekend, glitching badly at all of them, losing his train of thought, thanking people in a city he's not in. And tomorrow on the program, we'll have a deeper dive about how the attacks on Joe Biden's cognitive state are falling increasingly flat on the basis that every time Trump over opens his mouth, his brain seems to be falling out of it. Let's start with Trump's appearance in Sioux City, Iowa, where Donald Trump talked about being in Sioux Falls. You will hear Trump say that you will see someone whisper to him, probably something like, sir, it pains me to

tell you this, but you're in Sioux City, not Sioux Falls. Take a look at this raising the specter of Trump's cognitive decline once again. Very big hello to a place where we've done very well. Sioux Falls. Thank you very much. Sioux Falls. Thank you. And you can hear someone go, it's Sioux City, Sioux City. And Trump goes, oh, oh.

So Sioux City, let me ask you, OK, I'd love to hear more about Joe Biden's cognitive decline. I really, really, really would. The cognitive beauty is continuing. Here is Donald Trump claiming that Hungary has a border with Russia. Of course it does not. You might remember last week Trump said that Viktor Orban, the Hungarian leader, is the leader of Turkey. Trump getting his strongman dictators mixed up.

Here is Trump getting the map mixed up once again. Viktor Orban. Did anybody ever hear of Viktor Orban? He's the head of Hungary. Hungary fronts on both Ukraine and Russia. That is not true. If you look at a map, we have these thing called maps. If you look at a map that Trump hasn't taken a sharpie to, there is no such border. Trump's mind turning to mayonnaise before our very eyes and not that really good Kewpie mayo. I'll tell you that that's for sure. Trump talking about trade deals and unable to read the teleprompter. This is the very same teleprompter that he criticized Obama for even using Obama. This is the very same teleprompter

that he criticizes Joe Biden for even even using. And Trump reads about the country of Kenya, not Kenya and not Canada, Kenya. With a teleprompter, you can't make a mistake. The only one that can't do a teleprompter is Biden because he can't. Right. He can't read the tell. He can't read the teleprompter. He can't do anything. I ended the NAFTA disaster, the worst trade deal ever made, and replace it with the brand new USMCA, the best trade deal ever made. They all say a giant win for farmers and manufacturers. Mexico and Kenya can Kenya.

There you go. Kenya won big. So just a cognitive disaster. The entire speech when it comes to Trump's authoritarian wet dreams, he talks about how he will route the media. I don't know what he means by this, but it doesn't sound good. Let's put it. It doesn't sound like it's a pro-democracy move. We will route the fake news media. We will route them. They have to come back and they have to be honest. They're going to be routed. I don't know. Trump in the middle of talking about defunding schools that have vaccine mandates and somehow get sidetracked into a story about LeBron James being a lot taller than Hillary Clinton.

This was the entire speech, folks. This is not a well man. So remember, Ben, when LeBron James endorsed Hillary? Now Hillary is small. She's small. LeBron is not small. And they stood on the stage and Hillary came slightly below his belt. Oh, I said, that's the greatest endorsement I've ever seen. This was this was not a good

endorsement. This was that good. This was that good. Now let's get back to our subject ahead. That was a good day. There you go. It was an incredible day for Trump ism when Hillary was much shorter than professional basketball player LeBron James Trump doing his transgender weightlifting routine, which increasingly is actually it's it's a pretty vile routine for more than just the transphobia. Let's put it that way. And they're proud, they're clapping, they're going crazy. I can't do it. There you go. So presented without comment, because any comment would probably be inappropriate for an audience that includes youngsters as we have. And lastly, Donald Trump continuing his brutal assault on electric vehicles.

He doesn't know anything about them. Republicans don't seem to know anything about electric vehicles, but they really hate them. That we can tell. Happiest day for a person in electric car is the first 10 minutes after they get the charge. After that, they become a scrambled bunch of maniacs that say, where do we get the next charge? That's how I drive around in my electric car. I go, where's that sweet, sweet charge? Give me that sweet charge. I need it. These people don't know anything about electric cars,

apparently, but they know that they are against them. And that is the theme of modern MAGA Trump ism, extreme confidence in things that we know absolutely nothing about. So not exactly a cognitive achievement in the wait a second. Is it Sioux City or Sioux Falls? Now I'm confused. Now it's in Sioux City and it didn't get any better in Las Vegas, where we will go next. A Trump with a big weekend of speeches, if you can call them that. I mean, technically, he used his voice box to try to create language and communicate meaning. It's sort of like basic phenomenology, I guess, whether it's a speech in the colloquial sense, I don't know that I can say here is Trump very strongly saying that the border patrol has put out a warning about hummus hummus. He's doing it again. Customs and Border Patrol distributed a warning that Hamas has anyone ever heard of

Hamas? Not nice, not nice. And Hezbollah and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad could try to infiltrate. There you go. A very, very strong warning about Hamas. By the way, they are also looking into the concept of a queso cheese because queso is just cheese. It's like saying cheese, cheese. It doesn't make any sense. It's like, why? Why would you even say that? Or like, for example, when people say RBI's in baseball, the R is already plural. Right. So why? Why? It's just RBI runs batted in. It's similar when you when you talk about queso cheese. That's what needs to be investigated. Hummus I'm fine with. But this is all extraordinarily dangerous stuff. Trump also says that there's lots of young men coming into the country and they're trying to get into women's sports.

I guess this, you know, I've heard about Islamic terrorists are coming in through the U.S. Mexico border. I hadn't previously heard about how men are coming into the country to play women's sports. What is Trump talking about is the real question and into our country. Thank you very much. You know, the same people that attacked Israel are coming into our country, too. And did you ever notice somebody said the other day, some fool on CNN said, oh, isn't that nice? They're all nice young men. They have young men, 23, 24, 22 years old, strong. They like nice young men.

There's something going on. There's something going on. It's not a good thing. They have a lot of young men, young, strong men. I don't want to insult the women, but the young, strong men, even though, as you know, they want men to play in women's sports, you know, we're not going to allow that. I guess what he's saying is hummus terrorists. And also maybe bean dip terrorists are all coming in to play in women's sports, which is I mean, listen, you got to hand it to Trump.

Nobody else is talking about these issues. I think it's because they don't exist. But certainly Trump is the only one willing to talk about this stuff. Trump also saying during this brain fest that he is an extraordinary athlete. I want to do that, too. I'm an extraordinary athlete. I want to play. I want to. There you go. And then lastly, Trump says that he will lower taxes in order to pay off the debt. And the math is not really checking out on this one. But we're going to start paying off debt and we're going to lower your taxes further. You know, we got you the biggest tax cut

ever. Right. And as soon as he gets rid of all taxes, the debt somehow is also going to go away. So we've looked at Iowa, we've looked at Las Vegas, and then we will now look at one what I would call giga glitch. Donald Trump glitched again and very badly. This was another Las Vegas event. This one for some kind of Jewish Republican group, which is quite a small group. I will tell you, American Jews, one of the most Democratic voting blocks that there is alongside black folks. It's actually quite wild. So here is Trump attempting to read off of the teleprompter about anti-Semitism short circuiting badly. It's a book, you know, where he just kind of like it's like the record skips and his shoulder twitches. And we all

have to pretend that this is normal and that it's Joe Biden who doesn't know what day it is. Take a look. Colleges and universities will purge the anti-Semitism and pro-terrorism. What you're doing, the terrorism is. There you go. But the real concern, remember, is, of course, Joe Biden, a disastrous, disastrous cognitive weekend for the failed former president. And tomorrow, if I have time, if not Wednesday and if not, we'll get to it, you know, next month or something. No, sometime this week, we are going to look at how the narrative has shifted dramatically over the last month on Biden's too old and Biden's demented and Biden doesn't know what day it is. The narrative has shifted dramatically because it is every every weekend Trump is having

one of these things. We I ran against Obama and I won. You ran against Hillary in 2016. What on earth are you talking about? Viktor Orban is the president of Turkey. No, he's not. He leads Hungary. What are you talking about? And it is glitch after glitch after glitch. And I'll tell you, the biggest beneficiary of this is Joe Biden. It doesn't mean that if you look online, you're not still seeing the same right wingers talk about Biden. It's just not landing in the way it was because it is glitch after cognitive glitch after cognitive glitch for Trump. And by the way, I am issuing no diagnosis

here. This could be 100 percent the stress of four criminal trials, two civil trials, being found to be a criminally liable rapist and the weight of it bearing down on Trump. It could be that it's not. Oh, yes, dementia. I'm certainly not saying that, but something is not right here. It seems the pressure is getting to him. And we'll talk about how this is certainly taking the attention off of Joe Biden. We're almost at two million YouTube subscribers.

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Former Vice President Mike Pence has ended his twenty twenty four Republican presidential campaign in total humiliation. He made this announcement during a speech to the Republican Jewish Coalition. I believe it's called a bunch of the Republican candidates spoke to this group over the weekend, and we already looked at some video of Trump speaking to that group. Pence just never really was able to get going with the campaign. It's not a big shock. It's sort of like the same thing as Tim Scott, you know, with Tim Scott, who's a

black Republican senator from South Carolina. It just didn't pass the sniff test. You know, if voters recently if Republican voters recently voted for Trump, who ushered in a sort of public welcoming of racism and xenophobia, it's very difficult to imagine that Republican voters are going to go. Let's go from the guy who coalesced racism to a black guy. It just didn't seem likely. And similarly, Mike Pence was the guy they were trying to hang quite for. That's actually what they said. We want to hang this guy on January 6th. It's similarly hard to imagine that the Trump supporters would go from being on the side of chanting hang Pence to supporting Mike Pence. And indeed, it didn't work for him. Here is Pence making the announcement, citing biblical passages and who knows what else.

Take a listen. I just couldn't sit this one out. But the Bible tells us that there's a time for every purpose under heaven. I'm traveling across the country over the past six months. I came here to say it's become clear to me. This is not my time. So after much prayer and deliberation, it's funny that when you're polling 3% for months you have to pray to know what to do. It's like I think if you showed the polling numbers to a six year old, they'd be like, I don't need to ask God about this one. My I have decided to suspend my campaign for president effective today.

Wow. Wow. I'm leaving this campaign, but let me promise you, I will never leave the fight for conservative values. And I thank God for that. We'll never stop fighting to elect principled Republican leaders to every office in the land. Right. So help me, God. Really brave and powerful statement from Mike Pence. Now, just as a reminder, if we look back at the polling, you know, you got Trump at almost 60 and you've got DeSantis at 12 and Nikki Haley at eight and Vivek Ramaswamy at four and a half and then Mike Pence at three point five percent. Now, I don't think we should just be making fun of Mike Pence like we all knew he had no shot. We all knew his campaign

was dead on arrival. But we should give him some credit because there are lots of other candidates who also should realize right now that they can't win and they aren't having the decency to drop out. They're insisting on sticking around. If you're DeSantis, I guess you can justify staying in. I mean, after all, you're in second place. You're the only person other than Trump polling in double digits. If you're Nikki Haley, you have gone from one to eight percent and gone from whatever place she started in to third place. She has a path to second place. If you're Nikki Haley, I think you can justify staying in Vivek Ramaswamy at this point. Pence, Christie, Scott Hutchinson,

Burgum. I don't think any of them can really justify staying in. So at least Mike Pence is doing the thing that makes sense. And if these Republicans want a shot at beating Trump, they should have the humility and the common sense and the pragmatism to say, hey, if we all stay in this thing, Trump's definitely going to win. If we start getting out and maybe we all endorse the same person, maybe there's some way, some way that we can at least get positioned for a strong showing in Iowa or New Hampshire or Nevada, South Carolina. And then maybe there's some way to claw away some support from Trump.

But if it stays this way, there is simply nothing, nothing that is going to get in the way of Donald Trump being the nominee. So good for DeSantis. I'm sorry. Good for Pence. He realized he couldn't win. He wasn't going to win. The only real question is, why did he get into this thing in the first place? Is this the end of Pence's political career?

I mean, probably. Right. I don't know. It sort of seems like it. How old is Mike Pence? Let me see if I can find that. It's got to be close to 70. No, he's 64. I mean, listen, could he try it again at age 68? Maybe it just would have to be a very different Republican Party at that point in order to even consider somebody like Mike Pence. So off he goes and we will see who is next. We learned over the weekend of the death at age 54 of actor Matthew Perry. I was I've never seen a single episode of Friends. The few minutes I've seen did not appeal to me, but that's not what this is about. This is a story about how once again, if the one tool you have is a hammer, everything is going to look like a nail. And for the anti-vax extremists, the death of Matthew Perry is again proof in their minds

that the covid vaccine is killing people, a claim for which there is no evidence. It's actually insane. Every time I debunk anti-vax claims, we get flagged on different platforms as promoting covid falsehoods. It's insane how bad these algorithms are. So let me say it again. I am debunking the claims in this video of the anti-vaxxers. Let's take a look at some of this stuff. Newsweek reporting Maga pushes vaccine conspiracy theory after Matthew Perry's death. Penn Live reports Matthew Perry's death had anti-vaxxers posting conspiracy theories. Fans were not having it. Absolutely disgusting. The Hindustan Times says MAGA circles point fingers at covid vaccines in Matthew Perry's

tragic passing. The reporting so far is that he drowned in a jacuzzi. A number of medical doctors have weighed in and said, you know, usually folks who are not on drugs don't die in a jacuzzi unless you have a heart attack, which makes you unable to get up, get out and you end up aspirating water. This is speculation right now. But there is, of course, no evidence that this has anything to do with the vaccine. And yet a right wing guy who says he fights for freedom, Robbie Starbuck, posted Matthew Perry has died at age 54. The call was for a suspected cardiac arrest. While anything is possible, many will point out Matthew was a big supporter of the covid vaccines and even sold shirts saying, could I be any more vaccinated? So I think it's fair to

ask that it be investigated as a potential cause of cardiac issues. Regardless, it's a tragedy. He brought joy, et cetera. We have another example of this. Candace Taylor. She's one of those crazy MAGA candidates. I believe she ran for a couple of different things in Michigan and lost badly. She said, what was he vaccinated? And we could look at countless more examples. And indeed, there are many. Laura Loomer, the right wing extremist, posting Matthew Perry is dead at 54. Sounds like he drowned in the jacuzzi. Wonder if it's covid vaccine related. He often talked about how he was proud to be extremely vaccinated. You get the picture that this is what it is. You know, I saw a couple of other posts which were something along the lines of, you know, listen, you've got Bob Saget, who supposedly died in a hotel room from blunt force trauma 21 months ago.

And then now Matthew Perry dies in completely different circumstances in a jacuzzi of apparent cardiac arrest. That seems like too much of a coincidence. It must be the vaccines. And if that sounds really stupid to you, you're absolutely correct. The idea that two deaths among celebrities. Twenty one months apart or something like that. In different circumstances, in different settings, men of different ages with different health backgrounds, that it's obvious that we should be pointing to covid vaccines.

It's a sad state of affairs. Now, as a reminder, people will say, David, look at the VAERS reporting system and look at all the people who died. Remember, the VAERS reporting system tracks people for months after they've received vaccines. And if they die for any reason, you die in a car accident after getting a vaccine, you can show up on VAERS. And then it is up to us to figure out is the vaccine even related? There are false reports submitted to VAERS, et cetera. We still have no evidence that hundreds nor thousands nor tens of thousands nor hundreds of thousands nor millions of people are dying from the covid vaccines. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. And this is yet another tragic situation. Very sad news

about Matthew Perry. He was important to a lot of people who like the programming that he participated in. And hopefully there will be something more definitive about cause of death. I don't know that that will really do anything for the anti-vaxxers, but at least there will be something more definitive to point to. kids demand so much attention, which is why I love our sponsor paired, which is the app for couples. The app will prompt you with a daily question or a game or a guided conversation, all designed by leading psychologists. And the point is to just have a deeper connection with your partner, boost intimacy, build a deeper knowledge of one another. My girlfriend and I will use the prompts on paired throughout the day to stay connected. For instance, we answered a prompt about what we remember most

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where one of our correspondents will interview wild conspiracy theorists at some rally, for example, or something like that. And obviously, we know that those are real people that our correspondents talk to who say Trump's still the president or whatever, but they can appear less real in the sense of it's like, well, yeah, I guess there's like random people out there who believe this sort of stuff, but they're not people that we really know specifically who have some kind of background. We we don't know the man or woman that Luke Beasley interviews in terms of where were they five, 10, 20 years ago. Roseanne Barr, someone who's been in the public eye for a long time.

And something has happened where she genuinely seems to be completely off her rocker. And I'm going to play for you part of this video. This is with Patrick Bet David. Remember, I was on his program as well. A few months ago, went down to Florida, did a couple hour appearance. And Roseanne was on there for a couple hours and she said a lot of crazy things. The craziest of which I think is this portion, this two minute section where she says Trump is still the commander in chief. Biden is the CEO of a bankrupt corporation.

And there are executive orders from 2015 that are the reason why Roseanne believes Trump is still the president. And yet everything bad that's going on is still Biden's fault, even though Trump is president. If your head is spinning, if you're going to struggle to understand this, know that I also am struggling to understand it because it makes no sense. Real nice bow and a really great epilogue. You think he's going to win? Oh, yeah. There's not going to be an election, but if there is, you think he's going to win? Well, I think if there is an election, yeah, he'll definitely win. But there's not going to be an election.

We know that. I said I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't, and I don't think there will be because I think something else is going to happen. Can I ask one question, Roseanne? We're being hypothetical. If there is, and I mean from the right, I mean, Vivek and all these guys, we see that there's no chance Trump is a whole different message. Well, a lot of us think that he's still commander in chief. 100%. Do you think that? Yeah.

Okay, so Trump is still commander in chief. Statement number one. You think Trump is the current commander in chief of Statement number one present. You think Trump is the current commander of chief and chief of the United States of America? Yes, I do. OK, what evidence do you have of that? A whole bunch of. Executive orders from 2015. Now, remember, in 2015, it was Barack Obama who was president. So Trump, understand the timeline. In 2015, Obama did some executive orders which allowed Trump to, despite losing the election in 2020, still be the commander in chief in 2023. At what point does this go from I'm confused about something to I'm extremely sick and delusional?

I don't know. I don't know. Does this count? I'll share it with you. OK, so then then all this stuff that's happened, the withdrawal from Afghanistan, the inflation, the high prices, the consumer price index. Is that now Trump's fault? No, I told you, Joe Biden is the

president of a defunct corporation. Right. Trump is still president thanks to 2015 executive orders from Obama. Right. But everything bad that's happened is Biden's fault because he's running a defunct corporation, even though Trump's commander in chief in D.C., he's causing all that. OK, so what is Trump doing since he's still the commander in chief in all this? He's the commander in chief of the. Constitutional Republic of the United States of America. Right. And I think they're two

different things. And I'll tell you what are his rules. He I would. That's too long of a conversation, but I'll show you. She doesn't know the answer, but it's a very long conversation. What is Trump actually doing now as the secret commander in chief while Joe Biden runs the defunct corporation in D.C. I'll show you all the stuff I have. This is I don't know this world. I generally don't. Is this QAnon? No, it's from Dr. Jan Halper Hayes. If you look up Dr. Jan Halper Hayes, what you find is that Dr. Jan Halper Hayes is. A Ph.D. of some kind, I mean, there's just nothing it's it's all really weird what you find and some conspiratorial stuff. So listen, I don just nothing. It's it's all really weird what you find and some

conspiratorial stuff. So listen, I don't know what's happened to Roseanne. It does seem sad. It does seem more like mental illness than anything else. And of course, most mentally ill people understand that Joe Biden is the president. So the point here is not to say, oh, that we're stigmatizing mental illness or whatever. And these most mentally ill people are is not to say, oh, that we're stigmatizing mental illness or whatever. And these most mentally ill people are still able to say, oh, Joe Biden's the president of the United States, period. Full stop. He was inaugurated in January of twenty twenty one. This there is more to that. There is a sort of level of delusion that exists here that on some level is scary because Roseanne is so confident. She's so confident when she says these things. And I don't know what it would take to disabuse her of these beliefs. I don't even know if it

would be possible. I would have loved to have been in there on this day at the PBD show when she was there. I will be back in Florida soon. I'm thinking of shooting an email over to these guys and saying, do you want me to come in? I'll be in town. I'd love to do something with you. Maybe we can get some other guests in there as well. But my guess is it's not going to be Roseanne once again. So that was a couple of weeks ago, but I thought it was interesting in a kind of scary way. Let's now talk about another person who's whacked, but in a different way, Lauren Boebert. Lauren Boebert has a problem in Colorado, folks. She is now up against not only her Democratic challenger, Adam Frisch,

who almost defeated her in 2022, it came down to under 600 votes. Lauren Boebert has a bigger problem, which is that Republicans in Colorado are now turning against her. This is super interesting and potentially a real problem. Time reports Lauren Boebert's Beetlejuice scandal is boosting her primary challenger. Remember, Lauren Boebert was engaged in public vaping, causing a disturbance and public sex acts during a performance of Beetlejuice in a theater. She was kicked out. And now it is not just Democrats in Colorado that appear to have had enough. The article reads of Representative Lauren Boebert seems seemed to be turning things around.

She sat for interviews with hometown papers, met with officials to talk about policy, et cetera. And then it came undone. Literally and figuratively, in mid-September, the Denver Post reported that she was escorted out of a performance of Beetlejuice. She was accused of vaping, recording, disturbing the performance. She denied being vaping, but video clips proved she had been. She was also involved in groping with her and her date.

She apologized, but damage control proved difficult. Republican challenger Jeff Hurd has now caught the attention of prominent Colorado Republicans who want someone else. Former Colorado Governor Bill Owens, the last Republican to lead the state, said, I am proud to endorse Jeff Hurd for U.S. Congress for the third district. Jeff is a man of character. He's a hardworking, smart, sincere leader who will deliver for the district. There are a handful of prominent Republicans who are saying we are supporting heard Delta County Commissioner

Don Supes knew of heard but didn't know him personally and now says just after the Congresswoman's issues at the theater, I decided we had to do something different. So I started reaching out, trying to make sure that we had the right person in that seat for the next election. This is going to be a problem for Lauren Boebert as it was Republican challenges aside. Lauren Boebert was going to have a real difficult time trying to get reelected in November of twenty four because the margin of victory for her was about five hundred and fifty votes. And since the groping incident and Adam Frisch becoming more known within Colorado in the district, even nationally raising a lot of money, we already knew it was

plausible to kick out Lauren Boebert. And now she is also having a problem because of Republicans. Now, what I don't want, I don't know the numbers on this and I don't know if there is polling data. I don't want heard to beat Boebert in the primary if that means he's more likely to go on to win in November. If Boebert is more likely to lose to Adam Frisch because Adam Frisch is a great candidate. We want Adam Frisch to win. If Frisch is more likely to defeat Boebert than heard, then I want Boebert to win the primary and we're going to need to look at the internal dynamics of that. Bush is more likely to defeat Boebert than heard. Then I want Boebert to win the primary.

And we're going to need to look at the internal dynamics of that. I actually know some people that are working particularly on this race and to get a Democrat elected in the third congressional district of Colorado. So that's a practical and tactical question that will have to be answered. But the point here is Boebert's in deep trouble and we are going to follow this race. I do consider this to be an important race, not listen. It's one of four thirty five. But it's important because if you looked at this Maga Hydra of Madison Cawthorn, Marjorie Trader Green and Lauren Boebert, Cawthorn lost his primary in

twenty twenty two. He's gone. Marjorie Taylor Greene is almost certainly her district is different and it's going to be much tougher to remove Marjorie Taylor Greene is almost certainly her district is different and it's going to be much tougher to remove Marjorie Taylor Greene, at least in 2024. But if we can get rid of Lauren Boebert, that is two thirds of this MAGA triumvirate of sorts that came came to power in the last few years. And it would mean a lot to be able to do that. So we're going to be watching this race closely. Lauren Boebert having real issues, real issues here.

And we don't know what is most likely to ultimately lead to her demise. But I want to make sure that it happens. That's where I'll leave it. We have a voicemail number. That number is 2192 David P. Here's a caller who is pointing out something many have written in about. And it relates to dogs, the animal dogs, you know, dogs, everybody's man and woman's best friend, dogs and Donald Trump.

Take a listen to this. I just want to note that. Among other various copious and maybe more obvious reasons not to like Donald Trump. One main reason that I also have is that he seems to not like dogs. He says a lot of negative things about dogs. He says people lie like dogs and do other negative things like dogs, quote unquote. And, you know, I believe if I'm not mistaken, he was the only president not to have a dog. So, yeah, that's him. Dogs are awesome. Listen, I agree that dogs are great and it is a relatively minor thing, but it is also another strange element of Trump's personality

that he doesn't seem to like dogs, dogs, or as he calls them dogs. They are often the butt of Trump's jokes or insults. People lie like dogs. They cheat like dogs. They threw them out like a dog, Trump will say. I do find it a little bit strange. And even people who are like afraid of dogs often have a positive view of dogs as a as a species. So yeah, this is not the most important thing in the world. But many people have written to me and they said, one of the main reasons I find Trump not trustworthy is his seeming disdain for man's best friend, the dog.

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