The David Pakman Show - 10/7/22: Herschel Walker Press Conference Disaster as Women Trend Left

Episode Date: October 7, 2022

-- On the Show: -- Georgia Senate candidate Herschel Walker holds a disastrous press conference to address the allegation that he paid for a woman he dated to get an abortion back in 2009 -- Young women are trending more and more liberal over time but young men are not -- Caller talks about how Georgia Republicans justify still supporting Herschel Walker -- Caller wonders how bad climate change will have to get before Republicans will start to care -- Caller talks about conservatives in Pennsylvania -- Caller doesn't like the Trump family's nepotism and corruption -- Caller doesn't believe there was anything fishy about the assassination attempt against Argentian Vice President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner -- Caller wonders whether the haters bother David -- David reacts to viewer emails -- On the Bonus Show: Biden pardons federal cannabis possession convictions, federal prosecutors believe they can charge Hunter Biden, Alex Jones promotes Brazilian voter fraud conspiracy theory, and much more... ⚠️ Use code PAKMAN for a free supply of BlueChew at https://go.bluechew.com/david-pakman 🎠 Busy Box Child: Save 10% with code PAKMAN at https://busyboxchild.com 👍 Munk Pack: Code PAKMAN saves you 20% at https://thld.co/munkpack_pakman_1022 -- Become a Supporter: http://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/thedavidpakmanshow -- Subscribe to Pakman Live: https://www.youtube.com/pakmanlive -- Subscribe to Pakman Finance: https://www.youtube.com/pakmanfinance -- Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/davidpakmanshow -- Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave us a message at The David Pakman Show Voicemail Line (219)-2DAVIDP

. Well, this you have to see. Herschel Walker did what was probably not a good idea. He held a press conference to talk about this scandal that has surfaced as he is accused by one of the mothers of one of his children of urging her and subsequently paying for her to get an abortion, despite claiming to be completely against abortion, claiming that abortion is murder, claiming that he is against any exceptions for abortion, health, life of the mother, incest, rape, all these different things. And this one was essentially an abortion of convenience, according to the mother who said

he said it wasn't the right time for him to be having a baby. He decided to hold a press conference. And I have to tell you, this is the most disastrous press conference I can remember. This is as bad as any Trump press conference. And I remember when Trump talked about injecting bleach. OK, Herschel Walker can barely speak. And so when you put him in front of reporters who are going to ask questions, it's bound to be a disaster. And it was. I don't even know where to start. Herschel Walker was asked, have you now that it has been identified that the woman making

the claim about the abortion is one of the mothers of your children? That's a known number of people. Have you reached out to one of the mothers to ask them, hey, are you the one? And he says no. And the explanation is seems like something out of a Dr. Seuss novel. Any of the mothers of your children? No. To ask why? Why not? Why do I need to? Well, because according to the article, one of the woman who says that you paid for her to have an abortion is also the mother of one of

your children. It seems like that's that's an easy way because of the article. I have more kids. OK. He says because of the article, I had more kids. OK, he says because of the article, I had more kids. What does that mean? I don't know. An article forced him to have a child somewhere. The article impregnated someone with his DNA. What does that mean? Because of the article, I had more kids.

That's why I reached out to you don't want because I said no. And that's what I mean when I said no, I said it's not correct. That's a lie. And that's what I mean. That's a lie. Thank you. You said that if this did happen, there's nothing to be ashamed of. How do you know what I said? I was talking about now. He did say that and I'll have the clip. So first of all, he's told you said this morning in an interview, if this did happen, it's nothing to be ashamed of. He's like, I never said that he did.

And I'll play it for you in a moment. I'm totally different. And if it did happen, I said, when I was with my ex-wife in my past, nothing to do with what this woman said. I said this this year, the abortion thing is false. It's a lie. And that's what I said. I said, you know, they have my wife or what Christian was talking about. I don't know. OK, so he said, I didn't say that thing this

morning. And yet here he is saying that thing yesterday morning, that it would be nothing to be ashamed of if it were true. I'm saying I've been forgiven because of all the things I did when I was my thing with my ex-wife and all that and things I did when I went to my thing with my ex-wife and all that and things I did, I don't know how many years ago that I wrote in my book. I said, guys, I wasn't perfect. I had my problem with mental health and I've

been born again but I have a new life and I've been moving forward and if that had happened, I would have said nothing to be ashamed of. If that had happened, I would have said it because it's nothing to be ashamed of. There he is himself saying the thing and not exactly sounding like a guy who has his story

straight. That's for damn sure. And this is one of the worst candidates, not just this election cycle. This is one of the worst Senate candidates I have ever seen. Quite frankly, he should be dropping out of the race, but he might win. I mean, the voters in Georgia are coming up with so many post hoc rationalizations for this. He might actually win. We'll take a look at what polling looks like after the weekend. Here's another moment from this disastrous press conference. He's told, hey, the lieutenant governor said the only reason you're even in this thing is because

people know you from football. And he's like, what's the what's that guy doing now? And they're like, well, he's the lieutenant governor and he doesn't seem to get it. Hershel, the lieutenant governor, Jeff Duncan, went on TV, I think, last night and had some very critical words of you saying that the Republican Party was in disarray. I think his direct quote, paraphrasing it, was the only reason he's a Republican nominee is because he scored a lot of touchdowns for the University of Georgia. Now, who was it you said went, did it? Jeff Duncan. Oh, what is he doing now?

Lieutenant governor. Oh, God. This is so insane. What's that guy do? It is the lieutenant governor. He's like, you know, but what is he doing? No. What is he doing? He's a he does work for who don't go on some TV show.

No, no, no. Don't go on TV and talk a lot. He's still no, no. Don't go on TV and talk a lot right now. You know, people like that. Do I listen to, you know, people told me I couldn't play football. Listen, the that's true. The lieutenant, as far as I know, the lieutenant governor has absolutely no no touchdowns to

his name. That's that's absolutely true. What's your reaction to people so close to you saying you were dishonest like his own son? Here's his answer to that. What's your reaction to people so close to your son you were dishonest like his own son. Here's his answer to that. What's your reaction to people so close to your son, a mother of your son, someone who says that she's the mother of your kids saying that you're lying. What you're actually people so close to you saying don't trust you. Just like what I just said, a Democrat is desperate for this.

Democrats. Oh, God. His son, Christian Walker, is a devout MAGA Republican. This has nothing to do with Democrats. It's a bit I've never seen anything like this. Who who advised them to do this? Porter, they're very desperate for this. See, I love my family.

I always love my family. I'm going to win this race. I know I'm going to win this race. Dear God, what an absolute and total disaster. I am hopeful that by Monday or Tuesday, whenever we get the latest polling on this race, I'm hopeful that this will be essentially over. Now, if we look at the polling again, we're we're still waiting on new data. We only have two polls right now that include

any polling after the start of this scandal. And most of these polls were still before the scandal, but it represents about a four point swing in the direction of Raphael Warnock. As you can see, sort of before this entire thing, scandal, this this scandal before the scandal started, you had them roughly tied and Warnock has jumped out to a roughly four point lead. And you see the red line there is Walker. If you're looking along with me, Walker's polling declining. Ninety five percent of the polling here is before the scandal.

So Monday, Tuesday, after the long weekend, hopefully we will have some new data in which it looks much, much worse for Herschel Walker. And again, in a normal country, in a normal planet, in a normal universe, a galaxy, whatever this guy would have no shot. But this is not a normal situation. There is a new report out which finds that young women are trending liberal and that young men are not trending more liberal. The Hill has a piece.

Forty four percent of young women counted themselves liberal in twenty twenty one compared to twenty five percent of young men, according to Gallup. The gender gap is the largest recorded in twenty four years of polling. The finding culminates years of rising liberalism among women ages 18 to 29, with no increase in their male peers. The article notes, quote, Several societal forces have conspired to push young women to the left, including the MeToo movement, former President Trump, rising LGBTQ identification and most recently, abortion policy.

Slow cooking trends in marital status and educational attainment have also nudged the needle. There is another aspect to this. All of that is true. There is a ton of nonsense about masculinity out there that I believe is impacting the number of men willing to say that they are on the left. Now, I think some of them are on the left but are unwilling to say it. But that's difficult to actually prove. So we can even keep it outside of this discussion. That's just an opinion that I hold. And it's it's based merely on anecdotes. I think there are some much like for a time when, you know, lots of times you hear there's more gay people now than

ever. Well, are there more gay people or is it that gay folks on average are more open to saying that that's how they identify, whereas in the past they were not for different societal pressures? I think right now there is a societal pressure, particularly among without a doubt the right wing and even among the center where men have been convinced that there is a lack of masculinity in progressive beliefs, that there is a lack of masculinity in to some degree empathy. You look at you look at silly little things like the electric vehicle thing. We recently talked about Marjorie Taylor Greene suggesting that Pete Buttigieg's support of electric vehicles is somehow feminine, that that it's emasculating to for a man to drive an electric vehicle. And of course, there it was homophobic. Pete Buttigieg is gay and it was all

mixed up with this homophobia that is just a big thing for Marjorie Taylor Greene. You know, also people to judge being an involved dad when Pete Buttigieg and his husband had twins. Pete Buttigieg took paternity leave and he was widely ridiculed by the right. Lauren Boebert even saying, what is he chest feeding? That's a quote. Is he chest feeding? That's a quote. Is he chest feeding? And again, the idea that gay man paternity leave. Well, it must be somehow feminine. Well, he's just being a good dad. That's all it is. And so I believe that that's a factor as well. And sadly, some of these sort of guru type figures that are predominantly appealing to those on the right.

Although Jordan Peterson appeals to many on the left as well, I'll be totally upfront about that, although it may not be explicit from Jordan Peterson. He puts together a pretty clearly defined kind of archetype for masculinity that doesn't really include the types of empathetic, sensitive, progressive beliefs and perspectives that, quite frankly, have nothing to do with masculinity. So I think there's a lot going on here. And it is not surprising that we see in terms of overt identification, young women identifying more to the left, but not young men.

Now, then there's that other X factor. And it's are some of these young men actually progressive, but they don't say it because of that very same societal pressure. And I don't know the answer to that. Someone who knows more about research methods might be able to say, well, here's how you could study where there is a sort of reticent progressivism among some young men. Let me know your thoughts. I don't think this is particularly good if I'm passing some kind of a moral evaluation of it. I don't think it's a particularly good thing for society. Let me know your thoughts. Find me on Twitter at Deepakman. And if we get some interesting feedback, we'll do a follow up. same active ingredients as Viagra and Cialis in a chewable form and at a fraction of the cost.

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what you say, across the aisle about the Herschel Walker and Warnock campaign. Okay. I have a lot of neighbors that just want to vote for Herschel because he was a damn good dog. And I mean, as a native Georgian, I understand that and I get that. But I'm like, try to talk to these guys about how he's definitely not a good representation of what it means to be a Georgian or Southern Belle these days. And so let me help me understand that. And this is interesting because you're talking to these folks. Herschel Walker is completely unable to explain his position on even a single issue. How do these people that like him do? Do they not even care what his positions are? Do they

pretend like they understand what his positions are? What how do they explain his incoherence? Speaker 4 I mean, I try to say, to say like you know i appreciate his time in football but his tte is just not what we need yeah um when it comes to his positions um they say you know it doesn't matter you know he's just republican he's just gonna vote republican i'm like y'all y'all worried about uh uh warnock being a biden boy and i'm like, y'all worried about Warnock being a Biden boy. And I'm like, he's going to, as soon as Walker gets there, he's just going to be, I don't know, Moscow Mitch. He's not going to do anything for Georgia. He's just going to be told to vote and how to vote. interview, you see his what he called news conferences that Walker is about as coached

as you can get on some of his background. The kind of. Yeah. And and still incoherent. Have you heard from any folks about the reaction now to the whole abortion scandal? Do they care about this story or are they calling it fake news or they don't care? I have one guy I talked to on a regular. He says it's fake news.

Oh, he just doesn't believe it. Another guy says, you know, he says it's taken court. So we'll see how the dollars fly. OK, at least you're willing to listen to the court. But I'll be honest, this is a story and I haven't had much time to talk to you. That's really depressing. Yeah. Let me ask you this. Are some of these folks who support Walker, are they otherwise normal, moderately intelligent people or are there people who, if you probed their beliefs on just about everything,

are a little bit wacky? I'd say it's a mix of both because uh you know you'd go down to the the bar for a football game they're commercials you talk to people will talk normal stuff but then all of a sudden but yeah it can get a little odd sometimes but yeah i'll be honest it seems like most of the time georgia fans just want to vote for herschel because he was a damn good dog. Okay. And what do you mean a damn good dog? Oh, I'm sorry, David. The college football thing down here in the southeast United States, damn good dog is a Georgia saying for any good, particularly good football player.

Oh, okay. But I myself am a damn good dog. I'm a graduate of the University of Georgia myself. But you get the damn good dog, I guess, title if you really show how just how good you are. All right. Very good. Is that a bike chain I hear in the background? Yeah, I apologize for that. My windows are open. It's a nice day today. Is that genuine? Did I pick it? It actually is a bike chain. Yeah. Oh, well, hardly going by. All right. That's all. Oh, OK. I thought it was like a bite. All right. Very good. All right. Mr. Rogers, thank you. Let's let's hope Warnock wins. You know, let's let's let's hope.

Indeed, thank you. Thank you very much for the call. There's Mr. Rogers in Atlanta making a number of very, very important declarations there. Remember, anybody who wants to participate, name and location as your nickname. If you have only one or the other, I will be unable to call on you. Let's go next to Noah from New York. Noah from New York. Welcome. Hey, David, good to talk to you. I've been watching you for a while, so a little nervous, but thank you for bringing me on. Well, so far, you're doing great. Your audio is good. So we're off to a good start, really. Thank you. I had to really look around the

settings, figure out how to turn off the discord notifications. Good. Anyway, though, I would say I got a question for you. It's just a little more of a silly question. It's not too serious because we can't really know. It's like, you know, what would you do in a zombie apocalypse type stuff, right? I'm just curious. I want to kick this back and forth with you. How do you think what's happening if climate change is going to pan out? We're not going to clearly avoid it.

We're not doing nearly enough. What do you think the end result of all this is going to be? I mean, the damage, what's what's going to happen, how it's going to affect our dialog and politics moving forward? What do you think? Speaker 1 It's so difficult to say and we're so terrible at predicting things. So let me give you one claim that's made and then I and which I don't believe and then we'll back up from it. There are some who say, listen, I don't deny that what climatologists have identified is real and it's coming. I just am confident that science and engineering is going to be able to keep up to prevent it from ever really getting that bad. OK, that's something some people say.

I don't subscribe to that. I don't subscribe to that. However, I do think that after there is a bunch of damage done by climate change and we're already starting to see it, we see pollution deaths, we see sea level rising and certain places increasingly underwater, like we're already seeing it. But I think after there is some significant damage from climate change, I think then much of the world will kick it into high gear. And yes, it'll be too little too late, but it will speed up to a degree that then we can say now we're making some progress, but it'll be after a bunch of damage

is done. That that's my genuine prediction. Like once things really actually start to get bad. Yeah, that's what I thought, too, is that like you're not really going to see it taken seriously until you get issues with like climate refugees and mass migration to a lot of, you know, what we call first world countries or damage there. And the thing is, a lot of people are going to hear our conversation, Noah, and they'll say, but guys, that's already happening. And I don't deny that. But I'm saying it's going to have to be more. It's going to have to be more. Yeah, it's going to be massive. Yeah, I think. Do you think you're going to see like almost some crackdowns on like those who have opposed or do oppose it? And and generally, do you think like I'm talking like authoritarian

situation? Because I do wonder this, like if things get very bad and desperate, are you going to see like hard line measures taken by governments that are going to cause like pushback and stuff? Absolutely. There are countries that already lean more authoritarian, the countries that lean more authoritarian. Whenever we get to this imaginary point that I'm talking about, I think you will see some very hard line action by some governments. But you will have to wait and see exactly what governments, which governments those

are at that time. Yeah. And how that will go. And one last thing. Do you think people who are like hardcore denying it are ever going to come around or do you think there's probably still going to be like a block that are just going to convince themselves that it's like Antifa changing the weather? Yeah, there will always be people who believe it's geoengineering or something like that. All right. Listen, Noah, before I let you go,

can you off the off your the top of your head, can you name four countries that start with the letter L? Let's say Lithuania. Yeah, man, you're putting me on the spot here. So now it's like it's like when people are asked to name a book. Yeah. They're like, name any book. And they're like, oh, God, which book? There's so many. I mean, Lithuania is a good start.

Stein. Lichtenstein. Yep. Yep. I would have also accepted Luxembourg, Latvia and Laos. Yeah. Here we go. Yeah.

Yeah. That's all right. No. Thank you for the call. Appreciate it. You to take care. Take care. There's no off from New York bringing up some sad but relevant and important issues, I have

to say. Let's go next to Chuck from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Chuck, welcome to the program. What's on your mind today? What's going on, David? Can you hear me? I can. Not really a question.

Just kind of giving you guys an update from PA here. Yeah. The important Senate race coming up here. And gubernatorial. Yeah, yeah. Well, so, yeah, I don't actually live in Pittsburgh. I live south of Pittsburgh about an hour. But it's like really the only notable thing. Uh, so that's why I put that, but, uh, I live in Fayette County and it's pretty, pretty red here. Um, but I mean, it's just, it's pretty disgusting when I drive around, like,

um, everybody's got all of these, uh, Mastriano signs in there. So it's got me a little worried. The only thing I, you guys, or you cover like the uh the polling yeah it's looking pretty good right now for shapiro yeah it's looking good so that's that's got my hopes up um i know that like when i drive around like i said it gets me a little worried just because you know i live in like a red area so that's all i see. Yeah. But another thing, I was at the Washington County Fair, which is actually the county to the left of me. And we say to the west. Is that what you mean? Yeah. To the west or left. If you were like looking on a map. I don't know if you meant like left the way you're sitting right now or something like that? Oh, no. Um, uh, but, um, as we were leaving the fair and again, I'm, I'm not a big fair person. I just kind of went because I don't know, I haven't been in a

while and, uh, we were leaving and we're, we're walking back to, through this like field to our car and like the, this family is walking out and they got like three kids and they're all, I can't remember if they were, I think they were just waving either american flags or uh like doug mastriano flags or something but their kids were chanting fjb and it was just a very very disturbing sight to see like how old were the kids oh probably like nine oh my goodness yeah it was like very cultish. But it was pretty disgusting. And then another thing real quick is like where I live, I actually fly an American flag off my house just to kind of, because like I feel like a lot of Republicans, like, you know,

if you're not a Trump or if you don't support the U.S. or like if you don't fly a U.S. flag, I feel like you're like looked at as like a demon. It's stigmatized. Yeah. So I just fly an American flag off my house to maybe, you know, not get my house shot up or something by an angry Republican. That's not bad.

I mean, you know, the the egg man who's a Jewish progressive but lives in upstate New York, he wears flannels and grows a big beard to try to blend in. So I understand. Yeah, I grow a beard. I don't grow a beard for that reason. I actually just enjoy a beard. But it actually does help fit in, I guess, a little bit. It certainly does. All right, my friend, thank you so much for the call. I appreciate it. Yep. No worries. All right. Interesting calls today from all over the place. I'm I'm I'm liking it. Let's see. Where do we want to go next? How about let's go to Lahav from Greensboro. Lahav, welcome to the program.

Hi, David, can you hear me? I can hear you fine. OK, I want to play a quick fire game. We're going to play a game now, you and I. Yes, OK, I list a politician and I want to play a quick fire game. We're going to play a game now. You and I. Yes. OK, I list a politician and I want you to say the first word you think of to describe them. OK, let's try it. Elizabeth Warren.

Oh, boy. Buttoned up. Kissed in the cinema. Confused. Buttigieg. Vicious. Jamal Bowman. Don't know enough about him to really comment with one word.

Mitt Romney. Timid. Let's man. Gretchen Whitmer. Milk toast. I'm. AOC. Passionate. Jill Stein. Very nice, I guess. Jeb Bush. Bush. Very nice. How many more of these are there, by the way? Oh, I'm sorry. Did you say Jill Stein? I thought you said Jill Biden. Hold on. Jill Stein. Jill Stein. Cuckoo. Speaker 4 Yeah, that's better. Okay. Tulsi Gabbard. Speaker 1 Despicable. Speaker 4 Okay. And let's see here. Speaker 1 Let's let's let's let's leave it there. I think that's good. That's a lot. I don't know that I have too many of these left in me. OK, thank you. All right. Thank you very much

for the call. Appreciate it. By the way, milk toast is M.I.L.Q.U.E. for everybody who now is looking that up. It's not not like milk, like from cereal and milk. All right, everybody, let's take a very quick break. But we're still going to take calls after the break. So if you're holding to chat with me, hold on just a little longer and I will hopefully get to you. Quick break. One of our sponsors today is Busy Box Child.

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in our audience. We take calls weekly via discord. You can find our discord at David Pakman dot com slash discord. That is the place to go. Let's try Jojo from Melbourne, Australia, which can sometimes go well. Sometimes Jojo's calls get a little risque. Jojo, what's on your mind today? Oh, yeah. Um, gosh. Jojo. Hello.

Hello, Jojo. Did you have a question for me today? Oh, yeah. Can you hear me? Yes. Oh, hi. Hi, David. i do have a question for you yes um uh okay i'm going to talk about nepotism did you see the uh wave of it coming uh did you think it was abnormal um so obviously first of all there was the family that took over the White House and then

there's Clarence Thomas and his wife this is nothing like I would have seen in my country anyway but is did you think think it was abnormal or was it just something that. I think the nepotism in the Trump administration was particularly brazen, but not altogether surprising. Yeah, I mean, I thought it was in particular, but then it just capped it off with the Judy Thomas and Clarence Thomas thing, which I think I mean, in a normal. Well, I would think that he would resign his place in the Supreme Court, but that's just me. I'm not sure.

Yeah, I don't know what the Clarence Thomas thing is necessarily nepotism. I think it's more corruption, you know. And yeah, I don't know that nepotism is the word I would apply, but it's certainly disgusting. That's for sure. Oh, absolutely. Well, not necessarily, but a what do you call it? What is it? Well, it's certainly corruption inside a trading. I don't know. Are you interested in a trivia question? Can I give you a trivia question? Absolutely. Can you name countries that start with the letter J? Countries. Give me how much? Oh, my God, you put me on the spot. And can you give me another

letter? Well, that's the letter I have. Jojo, listen, I've got a whole bunch of people here. I do have to move on. Johannesburg is a city. Johannesburg is a city. No, I know it is. I know. I'm really good at geography. Please give me another letter. Johannesburg is a city. No, I know it is. I know I'm really good at geography. Please give me another letter. One. That's the only letter I have, Jojo. I have to let you go. I apologize. Mm hmm. All right, Jojo. Jojo from Melbourne, Australia. Very much appreciate it. Would have accepted Japan would have accepted Jamaica and would have accepted Jordan as well. All would have been acceptable. Let's go to Shelly from Indiana. Shelly, welcome to the program. What can I do for you today? Speaker 4

Hi, David. How are you? Speaker 1 I'm doing well. Speaker 4 OK, great. So I was thinking about the governmental program and how we have so many people that disapprove of them. And I was wondering if the left maybe took more of the approach of what the Swedes do, where they offer programs to everyone, no matter the no matter what the income level is, that way more people would be on board with it and that it would help people. You're saying eliminate means testing and then maybe there would be less opposition to social welfare programs in the United States if everybody just got them.

Right, exactly. So obviously there would be like people on the lower end would get more benefits. But if if the people that made more money felt like they were still getting something out of it, then it wouldn't be the one paying into it. And I'm not getting anything from it. I totally understand the idea. I don't think it would make a big difference to many Republicans, unfortunately. I think with some it would.

But I think with many it would not. Well, and the reason why why I thought that it might be a good idea is because when when they were doing the stimulus checks and there was more people on the higher end that were still getting you saw people that that were really wouldn't normally approve of those programs that were happy to get it. And so it's like, well, maybe if we expanded this where people felt like they were still getting something out of it. Yeah. I don't know.

It was just the thought it's an idea. I think it would do a little. I don't think it would make a big difference. That's my instinct. OK. Yeah. How are things in Indiana? Things are OK there.

You're you're welcoming back Mike Pence and everything. Oh, I'm sure they are. I'm not sure. But the weather is really good. So that's good. Yeah. Good, Shelley. I appreciate the call.

All right. Thank you so much. All right. Shelley from Indiana. Always great to hear from her. Let's go to Lucas from Brazil. Brazil, of course, will have a runoff election on October 30th. And things are quite wild there. Lucas, what's going on?

Hello, do you listen? I can hear you. So I want to ask you about a video you made two months ago about Christina Kirchner assassination attempt. Do you remember the video? I do. Well, it's kind of a hard question, let's say. Don't you think it was a bit Do you remember the video? I do. It's kind of a hard question, let's say. Don't you think it was a bit conspiratorial, the video? Yes, I admit that in the video. I mean, even the right-wing media in Brazil, they hate Argentina.

They think it's like far left or whatever. They weren't saying that. I mean, it seems like you did some Clinton body count, but Christina body. Yeah, listen, I mean, I say in the video it could absolutely be perceived that way. It's it's just, you know, I'm not pointing fingers at anyone in particular, just the entire thing stinks to high heaven. And I it's certainly not a unique, you know, Argentinian media have have suggested it. And yeah, but I say in the video, it's conspiratorial, without a doubt. You I think that's a little bit problem with breaking news, breaking news media coverage in general, you don't have all the information and so on.

For example, I it didn't have anything to do with it being breaking. I still have the same opinion today. I mean, and now it's you know, it's been two months, so I don't know. But you still think that it was kind of a fake flag today or. I think it's completely plausible. This is one of the most corrupt people in the history of Argentinian politics on the cusp of very serious evidence being presented against her. And I would put nothing past her morally, for sure.

OK, so I guess you just a bit bites the bullet on the conspiratorial stuff, I guess. I'm biting the bullet. Yep. The frogs are turning gay and everything. You got no problem. No problem. One little question about rank and choice voting. Do you think it's a good path forward?

Or I mean, what do you have on the take on it? Yes, I have a dozen videos about this, where I including go through the different forms of it, single transferable vote and others. And generally speaking, some version of ranked choice voting is very appealing to me. I see. Well, I guess that was my questions. Thank you, David. All right, Lucas. Thank you. And who do you support in the upcoming election, by the way? In the second round, Lula, but in the first, a politician named Cyril Gomez. That didn't go very well.

OK, fair enough. But Lula in this. All right. Well, we're going to be watching it closely, my friend. Good, good. Thank you. Thank you. There's Lucas from Brazil with a very, very important election upcoming.

Let's go to Grant from Iowa City. Grant, welcome to the program. Hey, David. So I know you get a lot of criticism and stuff, obviously, from people on the right side of you and the left on the spectrum. And again, the left to that is going to say so for when you get criticism from people left of you, for me personally, I like it just gives me like a ton of anxiety. I get nervous about it because I am afraid of being perceived as like this, you know, negative whatever a negative Nancy. Speaker 2

is that we're just like we're not supposed to use negative Nancy anymore. Speaker 1 I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know either. Like even stuff like that, I guess, like hearing that, I would be like, oh, gosh, like, you know, please don't think I'm a bad person. You know, I ate an egg. Please don't kill me. Yeah.

So I guess how do you kind of personally handle, you know, getting criticism from people left of you who would say, you know, you're either you're a horrible person for what you believe or whatever, as for me, just kind of naturally wanting to live at peace with everybody. It just like, yeah, I don't know. It really bends me out of shape. Speaker 1.: Well, here's the thing. A lot of this stuff in person would not become what it is when you're leaving someone a voicemail or leaving a comment on their

videos. People are just by their nature much more confrontational online. And so I see, you know, these people who attack me from the left, but we agree on like 95 percent of stuff. I don't get too bent out of shape about it. Quite frankly, I don't really pay much attention to any of it. I just kind of do my thing and and try to focus on what I'm doing and learn and read as much as I can and modify my views when I feel that the facts point me in a new direction. And I try to screen out as much of the noise as possible left and right. Speaker 1 Right, right. I'm sure it's absolutely necessary for you as well. Yeah. You know, having such a, you know, a lot of encounters with so many

people. I could not do what you do. Definitely. I'll say that much. Absolutely. But yeah, no, I was just wondering, and has it gotten easier for you, like as you get older to just like, is it easier to screen out the negative noise? Absolutely. And not take things so seriously. Absolutely. Without a doubt. Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, at the beginning it was like one negative comment, which was, by the way, we only would get one comment a day and it was like a really big deal. But yeah, it definitely becomes easier. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm just curious because it's like I'm thinking like I'm way behind on this stuff because I'm almost 26 now and I'm like, I feel like I get bent out of shape as if I'm

a seven year old or something. Yeah. I mean, I think part of it is one of the things is really understanding that for a lot of these people that are so willing and eager to criticize others, they probably don't feel that great about themselves. And often attacks on others are more a reflection of the attackers, either low self-esteem or trials or tribulations. And once I started thinking that, like, wow, this person must really have some horrible

stuff going on to be spending an hour on the Internet leaving me 100 negative comments. I kind of feel bad for them more than anything else. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Sorry, my question wasn't a political one or whatever. No, that's like you. Do you want a trivia question before you go? Oh, gosh, you can try. I'm going to totally botch it because I'm quite nervous.

But OK, here we go. We can go for it. I guess what is the typical name for a dried plum when you buy it as a dried fruit? What do they call a dried plum? A prune as a dried fruit. What do they call it? Dried plum. A prune. You're absolutely correct. OK. You did it. I don't know why that made me so nervous. All right, my friend. Thank you for the call. I appreciate it. Thanks, David. All right. Take care. There's Grant from Iowa City. Really excellent, excellent execution there on the on the trivia trivia question that could have gone bad. It could have gone very bad.

And thankfully, it did not. Let's go to Samar from Metro somewhere. I can't see it's met. Where are you calling from, Samar? Samar left. OK, Samar apparently did not want to be on. That's that's interesting. Let's go to instead Garrett from Chicago.

Garrett, welcome to the program. Hello, Mr. David, the Pac-Man, sir. Welcome. Thank you. My question is about. Like the popularity of candidates when affecting other people that are running in the same election. I worded that poorly. Just to give you an example, in Georgia, Brian Kemp is currently leading six or seven points in most of the polls. OK. And he's a Republican, obviously, whereas Warnock is currently up anywhere from three to five. Um, what I saw is Warnock is up 1.3, 1.3. Okay. Well, um, the, I'm, I'm just, I have five 38 pulled up the most recent polls, but yeahemp affect the do you think it'll affect the turnout of the other side? Like, do you think Kemp's popularity will improve Walker's chances? Or do you think Warnock's chance or Warnock's popularity will improve Stacey Abrams chances?

Oh, I that is so specific. I have no idea. Listen, turnout in mid terms, predicting turnout in midterms is very fraught and difficult. And every election cycle is, oh, turnout's going to win it for this person or that person. And it's so difficult to predict. And your question is even more specific, which is whatever base level of turnout is to be expected. Will one candidate's popularity buoy or sink another? And I just have no idea. I think all we can do right now, we're a month out. It's basically four and a half weeks or something until the election, roughly is. Make sure you're registered, make sure you know where to vote and make sure to vote. That's it. And I think all of these calculations, they're interesting questions. We're going to know in

retrospect only once we get exit poll data. I don't know. We we've just really got to make sure not to lose any of these winnable races. OK, thank you very much, Mr. David, the Pac-Man. Do you want a trivia question before you go? Of course. What's the most expensive spice by weight? And when we say spice, we're talking about cooking. What's the most expensive spice by weight? So not the spice from Dune.

No, no, no, no. Oh, geez. Probably. Speaker 1 Oh, geez, probably. I'm going to say I can only name like three spices. I'm going to say time. Speaker 1 No, no. Time is cheap. Oh, my God.

It's almost a weed. It's almost invasive. The answer is saffron. It's saffron. Speaker 1 Oh, yes, of course. Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Very good. Thank you for the call. Speaker 1 Thank you, Yeah. Yeah. All right. Very good. Thank you for the call. Thank you, sir. All right. I really appreciate everybody who called in and spoke to me. I even appreciate people who called in and didn't speak to me. The people who didn't call in. I'm not so big on you folks, but no, in all seriousness, we will take calls again.

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make mistakes. I'm glad to issue corrections when I make mistakes. I'm glad to give a sampling of comments from people that aren't thrilled with me. David wrote in and said, you were out there, dude. Trump was and maybe will be again the best thing that's happened to this country in decades. Open your eyes. Your radio cast must be funded by the demo rats. No, the demo rats and the demon rats and the Democrats, none of them fund the show. George Soros doesn't fund the show. Whoever else you imagine is funding the show doesn't fund the

show. The show is funded mostly by our audience and then by a few advertisers. That's that's kind of what it is. The I guess all I can say is congratulations for using the correct your the correct form of your. All right. So David is waiting around for the return of Trump, almost in like a weird messianic way. It's very, very interesting. Next criticism is from Don. Don wrote in and said, you are a freaking idiot. Take your liberal Marxist socialistic garbage somewhere else. It's idiots like you that are destroying this country. The oligarchies are bringing this. That's oligarchy. Apostrophe S are bringing this country down.

And should they succeed, you won't mean crap to them. Then let's see how you will put food on your table, pay your mortgage and charge your defunct grid system car. You don't know crap and are just as stupid as the rest of your Democratic constituents. Well, a really strong condemnation by Don of a political ideology that I don't hold. I'm not a Marxist or a socialist, but maybe go find a Marxist or a socialist and criticize them. I don't know. It's always weird. They seem confused. Matt wrote in about interviews with the so-called radical left. Matt says, David, sir, just listen to your explanation of how right wing candidates may

or may not end up on your show for interviews. And it made me wonder if there are any left wing candidates that you might consider radical or unreasonable in some of their views. And if you'd be interested in interviewing them, perhaps there aren't any. And it is purely a disease of the Republican Party. I wouldn't be surprised, but I'd be interested in interviewing them, perhaps there aren't any and it is purely a disease of the Republican Party. I wouldn't be surprised, but I'd be interested in your take either way. Yeah, I mean, listen, there are extreme leftists. The difference is the extreme leftists don't ever seem to win their Democratic primaries.

And one of the things we do on this show, because we can't turn the show into the, you know, ninth congressional district show where we interview everybody running for the Democratic nomination and everybody running for the Republican nomination. We tend to wait until after primaries to do these interviews as a practical matter. And the Republicans will often vote for the wackiest in the primary. And so that's who I end up interviewing. Democrats rarely vote for the super wacky, extreme left winger. And so by the time they get to me, there's been a sorting already and much the

same way that Trump would never have won the Democratic primary in 2016. A lot of the so-called radical left that Matt is referring to in his email don't pass that first filter. And that's why they don't end up on the show. But I have no opposition in principle to speaking to anybody. Robert wrote in. This is very interesting. And this relates to Roe v. Wade and abortion and other things we've been talking about. Robert says, big fan of the show. Appreciate your rational approach to controversial subjects. Wanted to write to you about abortion. People are unfortunately, but legally making end of life decisions all the time. When an individual's higher brain function ceases, the family can opt to have life support suspended. This is generally rationalized by the collective understanding that once higher brain functions have ended,

the person is already gone. If people have accepted, and this is the wrong accepted. So the right word here is ACC. This is the but let's imagine we understand what Robert is saying. If people have accepted that this is the way things are, then why can't the opposite be true? If your life ends when your higher brain function stops, then why would your beginning of life be before your higher frame brain function begins? My understanding is that dreaming is supposed to begin in the third trimester. If I'm not mistaken, this should signify the beginnings of thought and the brains need to process them. So there's a couple issues here. First of all, Robert is completely correct. And there's actually another aspect to this, which is. Quote, other people make decisions about end of life all the time,

as you're talking about in situations where people's brain function has stopped or in lots of different situations, including hospice type situations. Why couldn't the same decisions be made when a fetus has no brain function and isn't going to? So in these most extreme cases where Republicans want women carrying nonviable fetuses to term, why is it OK to make those decisions for others later and not earlier, aside from the personhood question? But there's kind of a bigger issue here, which is you're never going to convince the right on abortion with arguments like this because they will say, well, we don't care about brain function. We care about heartbeat. And that's where the heartbeat bills come from. And then you'd say, well, OK, but what about this? And they'll say, well, we don't care about brain function. We care about heartbeat. And that's where the heartbeat bills come from. And then you'd say, well, OK, but what about this? And

they'll say, now we believe life begins at conception and it's an endless loop. And so while these types of questions that Robert brings up are super interesting and they're accurate and they're relevant, that's not going to convince the most ardent anti choicers on the right. Sadly, I wish we could talk sense with them, but unfortunately we can't. Sean wrote in about my interview with that Republican candidate, Alison Hayden, who's running against our friend Eric Swalwell. And Sean says to David or whomever, whomever. I enjoy all of David's interviews.

I find them fascinating and informative. But I think my favorite type of interview is when David speaks to Republicans who seem to be confused by facts versus their opinion. Needless to say, I was glued to your discussion with Alison Hayden. As per the usual, I think David did a great job. But there's one question I would love to hear him ask of these people. If Trump would have won the presidency, would they still be making such a big deal out of the legitimacy and security of our elections? Guys, we all know the answer to that. Of course they wouldn't.

If Trump had won the electoral vote or the electoral vote and the popular vote, they would be doing what they did in 2016, which is saying sort of like there was some fraud. And my real victory was even bigger. But they would not be filing 60, 70 court complaints. Of course, they wouldn't be doing any of those things. Don't believe for a second that this is some kind of moral fight for them. It's just about their guy lost. That's all they care about. Daniel wrote in about my Republican guests and says, David, after hearing your interview yesterday with the Northern California Republican candidate, that was Alison Hayden. And after hearing several other recent videos,

interviews, I have an honest inquiry as to whether you seek out the worst Republican candidates to interview or if you're just shooting fish in a barrel. Do you specifically target the crazies or are you just giving us a sampling of what the Republican Party has generally become? Love you're taking them to task, though, and trying desperately to make them think about the word salad they're spewing. So last week we had a voicemail asking a similar question. My colleague John has been heading up these interviews. He has interviewed, I want to say, close to 50 different Republican candidates. Some of them don't even respond. Some of them do. But then they find out about how interviews are conducted here and that real questions will be asked. And then they say,

I'm not interested or they stop responding. Some will agree to come on. And then once we schedule it, we'll never hear from them again. Some confirm the interview literally hours before it's scheduled. And then they just never show up on Skype and we never hear from them again. We cast a wide net. Some of them are less crazy like that guy, Johnny T guy interviewed. I still disagree with him about just about everything, but he was less overtly bonkers and less cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. But we are casting a wide net. We're not targeting the whack jobs, but a lot of them are really wacky. And it's just a representation of who's running in that party right now. I, the zombie playal. Wrote in and

said, David, you should sit back and think about why right wingers around the world are performing better than ever. People are very angry at their politicians. Yeah, it's I think the implication here is the left has done so terribly that globally and really they mean like Western Europe and to some degree the Americas voters are going to right wingers. What's going on is that parties on both sides anecdotally have failed voters in lots of parts of the world. But the real change has been the echo chambers created by social media and modern media, which allow really stupid, quite frankly, ideas primarily on the non-science right to get repetition that they wouldn't otherwise get.

We've talked before. If Nixon had had Fox News and Facebook, it's not clear Nixon would have actually ended up resigning and it's possible he would have been impeached by the House and maybe not convicted by the Senate if senators at the time had seen support in social media the way there was support for Trump during the impeachment trials that he had. So I do think that a lot of this is thanks to disinformation, faux populist messages or maybe actual populist messages which don't really lead to any substantive policy have also kind of infected the political discussion. And so it's not about the left has been so bad that right wingers have won. That's it's not that at all. But there is a story there to be told. And so it's not about the left has been so bad that right wingers have won. That's it's not that at all. But there is a story there to be told. And I think it's an important

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