The David Pakman Show - 10/8/24: Dueling campaign rallies, Fox defends Trump's brain

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

-- On the Show: -- A deep dive into the origins of the "crime is up" narrative that has been pushed by Donald Trump and by Republicans, including the role of John Lott, a former guest on the show, of generating the claims that Trump has been making -- Speaking in Flint, Michigan, Vice President Kamala Harris brutally destroys Trump's gaffe line about "concepts of a plan" from the presidential debate -- Fox News host Brian Kilmeade is absolutely furious that the New York Times has finally started to report on Donald Trump's cognitive decline -- At a bonkers rally in Juneau, Wisconsin, Donald Trump glitches, threatens any Kamala supporters in the crowd, and terrifies the world -- Donald Trump attempts to take questions from the audience in Fayetteville, North Carolina, and it goes very poorly -- On the Hugh Hewitt show, Donald Trump uses eugenics rhetoric about "genes" being indicative of which immigrants are likely to commit violent crimes -- Yet another Republican, this time Senator Tom Cotton, is asked whether Donald Trump lost the 2020 election, and he refuses to answer -- On the Bonus Show: David discusses his trip to Las Vegas and what he's going to be up to this week, Philadelphia restaurant bans Republican who claimed fundraiser was for autism awareness, crypto bros feel betrayed by Trump, much more... 🌱 Ounce of Hope: Get 20% off with code PAKMAN at https://ounceofhope.com 🥐 Wildgrain: Use code PAKMAN for 30% off & FREE CROISSANTS at https://wildgrain.com/pakman 💪 Athletic Greens is offering FREE year-supply of Vitamin D at https://athleticgreens.com/pakman ⚠️ Ground News: Get 40% OFF their unlimited access Vantage plan at https://ground.news/pakman 🩳 SHEATH Underwear: Code PAKMAN for 20% OFF at https://sheathunderwear.com/pakman -- Become a Member: https://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/davidpakmanshow -- TDPS Subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/thedavidpakmanshow -- Pakman Discord: https://www.davidpakman.com/discord -- David on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave a Voicemail: (219)-2DAVIDP

Welcome to the show, everybody coming to you for the rest of this week from Las Vegas, Nevada, as we are now four weeks away from the 2024 presidential election, Senate election, House of Representatives election. And we will know roughly in 28 days, 29 days days maybe at the most 30 something days no matter what happens i think that's probably the outer limit we will know the direction that this country will be going in in terms of who will be controlling the major national legislative and executive bodies of this country? Will we hit the body with bleach or will we hit it with something that makes a little more sense?

I don't even know what I'm talking about. I want to take a tour today of the predominant narratives that are now taking up and consuming space and oxygen on corporate media and on the campaign trail. And we start with Kamala Harris in Flint, Michigan. There's something particularly interesting about Harris visiting Flint, Michigan and

talking, for example, about Donald Trump's plan or lack thereof for health insurance. Flint is a place where having a plan, executing a plan, and having the concepts of a plan, as Donald Trump said he has about health care during the recent presidential debate with Kamala Harris, that difference between concept, plan, or nothing is of critical importance when you look at the year after year that Flint, Michigan water has been undrinkable. Kamala Harris directly addressing the crowd and saying to everybody, you saw the debate concepts of a plan. That's really not going to be enough. Take a look at what she had to say.

And on top of all this, Donald Trump intends to end the Affordable Care Act. Even after he tried to repeal it time and time again when he was president and still has no plan to replace it. You watched the debate. You watched the debate. You saw that. He said, he said, he quote, has concepts of a plan. Concepts. No, you know, I have said that I do believe he is an unserious man. And the consequences and the consequences of him being president again are absolutely critically serious. Because think about it. Even on health care, he has a concept of a plan. So he's going to threaten the health

insurance of 45 million people in our country based on a concept to take us back. You remember that? When insurance companies could deny people with pre-existing conditions. Remember what that was like? Well, Michigan, we are not going back. We are not going back. We are not going back. We are not going back. No. We are not going back. No.

Because we will move forward. Ours is a fight for the future. You know, usually Donald Trump would claim to have a plan and he'd be lying. Now he's only claiming to have the concept of a plan. Are you willing to put your health care at risk, not even for a plan, as terrible as that plan might be, but for a concept of a plan, an extraordinarily dangerous proposition, and you need only look at the last plan to know that. This is just not a time to be messing around with people who don't know what they are doing. Kamala Harris was first accused of having no specific plans or policies, and then she put

them out, and understandably, expectedly, whatever, not to our surprise, the MAGA people said, we don't like these plans or she's not actually going to be able to do these things. Well, that's the name of the game with Donald Trump, right? We're going to solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in one term as we pay off the full national debt and also build a wall with Mexico that Mexico will pay for. The idea that campaigns lead to promises that are a wish list that you might not achieve, that's not new. But the problem is that when Trump had the opportunity to put forward a plan, it was a disaster. Remember the plan in 2017, I believe it was, that Donald Trump and Republicans actually put together on health care. It would have led to somewhere between 24 million and 32 million Americans losing health insurance. The plans are a disaster.

The lack of plans is a disaster. And Kamala Harris is really connecting with voters in a significant and serious way. You just can't take a chance on this is the point that she's making, and it's a good one. Kamala Harris also asking the crowd, are you ready to make your voices heard, which I think is also politically astute. Let me explain why in a moment. So Flint, today I ask,

are you ready to make your voices heard? Do we believe in freedom? Do we believe in opportunity? Do we believe in the promise of America? And are we ready to fight for it? And when we fight, we win. What I like about are you ready to make your voices heard? It's that you are saying it's up to the voters.

Donald Trump's view, we've already talked about the positive vision versus the apocalyptic negative vision from Trump. Kamala Harris's view is it's just up to you all, you all being us. Depends on who votes, depends how you vote, depends if you get out there and vote. Trump, on the other hand, is saying that the election will come down to whoever counts the ballots and whoever controls the machines and whoever suppresses your vote and undocumented migrants

who don't even have a legal right to vote. The empowering narrative is the one of Kamala Harris. If the question is which of these narratives is more likely to encourage people to get out and vote, the one where you're being told your vote won't matter because it'll either be canceled out by an illegal vote or someone who counts the votes or controls the machines or the computers is going to invalidate it. That's not really encouraging to get people out and voting.

On the other hand, the message that it's up to you, go out there and do it, is a much more inspirational get out the vote message. Excellent stuff from Kamala Harris. Later, we'll see what Donald Trump was up to. I spoke to you yesterday about how the New York Times, they looked under a rock and they looked underneath a pillow and they checked the couch cushions and they found that Donald Trump's brain is starting to decline. They didn't have the testicular or ovarian fortitude to call it cognitive decline. Fine. They called it cognitive change. They came up with it 29 days before the

election rather than years ago when we noticed it. Fine. But at least the New York Times found the story. Fox News is Brian Kilmeade doesn't like it. He's upset that the New York Times is now talking about this. And he just wants to talk about Kamala. He doesn't like the story about Trump to talk about Kamala Harris doing serious interviews tomorrow. Brian, she's going to be on The View, Howard Stern and Stephen Colbert. Friendly interviews. A lot of times she blows them, too. So, yeah. So I think it happened. Her prompter stopped on Friday and she kept repeating the same 32 days four or five times. But yet the front page of The New York Times last night and maybe it's today's that just broke last night is is Donald

Trump mentally OK? He just spoke for an hour and 45 minutes in front of maybe 60 to 100000 people times last night and maybe it's today's that just broke last night is is donald trump mentally okay he just spoke for an hour and 45 minutes in front of maybe 60 to 100 000 people he does three interviews a day he's going to do a whole bunch uh he's doing wabc this morning and do a whole bunch of interviews all week and then is donald trump okay why doesn't he do a cognitive exam you have kamala harris who can't get through any type of interview and make any sense. And that's why the people that closest to her don't want to do any. They asked a follow up question to what you said about lying about IVF. He goes, do you have an abortion ban? So Shannon Bream, so when he says I'm not going to sign an abortion ban, do you think he's lying to

you? He goes, yes. What are you supposed to say that? So lying when you disagree with the policy that'll push your campaign further. All I can tell you is the polls are a flat footed tie and we'll see who's going to outwork the other. It looks like 60 Minutes is not going to get Donald Trump. But she sat down for a 60 Minutes interview that's not going to air until next Sunday? That's bizarre. Now, also, contrary to Brian Kilmeade's claims of 60 to 100,000 people, it was a big rally. I told you yesterday, do not for a second think Trump has no momentum in Pennsylvania. This is a big crowd. But it was not 60 to 100,000 people. By all estimates, it was like 24, 25,000 people.

And just because Trump spoke the idea that, oh, he spoke for an hour and a half. Clearly, there's no brain issue. It's not just how long you can speak. Lots of people with cognitive decline will talk to you for six hours. That doesn't mean what they're saying makes any sense. That's what matters. The New York Times, way too late, in a way too careful, guarded way, found the story about what's going on with Trump's brain. Fox News is furious, and they should be, because if people knew what was going on with Trump's brain, I don't know that he'd have nearly as much support. We are going to take a break. So much happening in the last 24 hours. Glad you're with me. Make sure you're subscribed to the YouTube channel at youtube.com slash the David Pakman show. Donald Trump threatened Kamala Harris voters in his audience while glitching badly at a rally in Juneau, Wisconsin.

Not Juneau, Alaska. This was Juneau, Wisconsin. Now, in the clips I'm about to play for you, you would be completely within your legal rights to wonder, why are we seeing Donald Trump from the side? This is a very strange angle for a rally to be filmed. And the reason is that Donald Trump is now speaking at rallies in a bulletproof glass box so thick that light makes it impossible to see Trump through the glare in a normal head-on shot. So we will see him through a side view.

What a world that we now live in. Donald Trump with a warning in case there are any Kamala Harris supporters in the crowd, don't identify yourselves. It could be very dangerous and you could get hurt. Are you, is anybody, okay. Is there anybody here that's going to vote for Lion Kamala? Please raise your hand. Please raise your hand. Actually, I should say,

don't raise your hand. It would be very dangerous. We don't want to see anybody get hurt. Please don't raise your hand. Yeah, that's a really strange thing to say when you're trying to argue that it's the left that foments violence, that it's the left that actually got you shot because they say things like, I don't know that Trump respects the institutions of democracy, violence. And yet here is Donald Trump saying the Kamala supporters should not identify themselves because they may be hurt. Trump also glitching during the speech with the word mid worst and listen to this one with four more years of Kamala.

Every Wisconsin small town and mid worst. And I mean, the Midwestern cities are just devastated by this. Yeah, it is just it's the worst. It's the mid worst. And Trump claimed during the speech that the victims of Hurricane Helene need big doses of Starlink. Now, when Trump called them doses, that was red flag number one, that Trump doesn't know that Starlink is an Internet service. Then he admits he doesn't know what itlink is an internet service. Then he admits he doesn't know what it is, but he wants Elon to deliver it. But they want Starlink. So I said,

whatever it is, let's sell. I call Elon. I say, and you can't get as really popular. It's very hard to get, but they need it and they need big doses of it like fast. And I'm calling Elon. I said, Elon in North Carolina and parts of Georgia. And the governor is doing a very good job, by the way, in Georgia, I have to say a very good job. But in parts of Georgia, in parts of Georgia and in real big parts of North Carolina, they need something called Starlink. I don't know what the hell it is. And you don't have to tell me because I don't want to waste a lot of time, but would you be able to get it? And we talked on the phone for a couple of minutes. And during my conversation with him, I got a call from North Carolina thanking me for getting Starlink. I said, I said, how the hell did you do that? You're talking to me. You didn't

have time. He said, well, I have a system. I think he's doing exactly. We need big tariffs, but Trump doesn't know how they work. We need treatments for covid, but Trump thinks flu shots, ivermectin and or bleach might work for covid. We need a wall with Mexico, even though it wouldn't really solve the problem of undocumented immigration. And we need Starlink, heavy doses of it, gallons of it, even though there's no factual basis or knowledge for Trump in calling for this thing. More proof that it's whatever someone whispers into his ear before he goes on stage. Now, the interesting thing about the side view during the rally was that it made it a lot easier to see people leaving. People leaving were really easy

to identify because of this very interesting side angle. And in this video that we're showing you, you can see people actually heading for the exits that Trump speaks. I like this angle. It's actually a great choice. Another fly got near Trump. This is happening frequently at these rallies. It's just all over Trump. And I don't know what it is about flies being attracted to the guy. I think the Bible says something about it. Take a look at this. A coal plant a week. I don't like flies. Get out of here. Fly. Never been never been a big fan of flies. You don't mind my bringing that up, do you? Anyway, this is a very aggressive sucker. That is this one. This one in particular is very aggressive. Like I'm going to be aggressive for our country. You can probably say.

If this could. So Trump, very bothered by insects of different kinds in a completely Kafka esque moment. Republican Senator Ron Johnson got on stage i i can't believe they keep telling these stories does anyone believe these stories he says that wisconsinites come up to him you know where this is going with tears in their eyes saying they appreciate trump so much behalf of the hundreds and literally thousands of wisconsinites that i've talked to over the last Trump so much. for your tenacity, for your love of this country, for your willingness. They realize you didn't have to do this,

but you're willing to do it because, like them, you love this country fervently. So on behalf of all those Wisconsinites, I want to say thank you. Thank you. You know, on the flight here to Vegas, I stepped onto the plane. Four people stood up sobbing and said, David, YouTube has been treating you so unfairly. They then saluted and bought me a drink and gave me pretzels.

It was an incredible sight. I don't know how anyone believes these tears in their eyes stories. And if they were true, which I don't believe they are for a moment, but just hypothesize for a moment that it's true, that people are crying this frequently whenever they talk about their love for Trump, there's nothing wrong with crying. There is a shortage of emotion out in the world. But if Trump supporters are

crying this often, it's just another sign that they're in a cult. And it is very, very scary stuff. Continuing the apocalyptic dystopian vision of the future of this country, if Trump doesn't win, Trump says the country is finished if he loses, by which I think he means he might end up in prison if he loses. Take a look. It's not good. It's not good. And we can't play games. I'd like to be nice. I want to be nice. I think I'm a nice person, but we can't take him. We can't. If we lose this election, this country is finished. I really believe it. This country is finished. Yeah. The person most worried about Trump losing seems to be Trump. I think we'll probably be OK if Donald Trump loses.

And then finally, Donald Trump reiterates, yes, he wants to be a dictator, but just for a single day. So I have to be careful with this. I said once about a month ago, you only have to vote this one time. And after that, everything will be good. And the fake news said, see, he wants to be a dictator and take over the country. No, no, that's not what I said. We got to fix the country, got to make sure. And then the country will be great. And we're going to have hopefully some great person, whether it's J.D. or somebody else.

And when the great Sean Hannity asked me a question and I jokingly said, he said, OK, let's get this. You don't want to be a dictator, do you? I said, Sean, I only want to be a dictator for one day and I'm going to close the borders and drill, baby, drill. But after that, I never want to be a dictator. So the fake news took that answer. And they said, Sean, I want to be a dictator. Click, click. So they said, Sean, I want to be a dictator. And they go, he wants to be a dictator.

They cut the rest of the... These are the worst people. These are the worst. They said he's a threat to democracy. He wants to be a dictator. No, you know, the threat to democracy are when you put incompetent people in charge of our country. That's a real threat. Now, I don't know how much you know about dictators. I don't know how much Trump knows about dictators. Dictators famously are not known for wanting to be a dictator for just a single day and then gladly giving up the dictatorship.

They don't typically do that. And then finally, the now nearly universal sign that a rally has ended. Donald Trump doing the double jerk dance while the village people's YMCA plays at volume levels dangerous for human hearing. So there it is. Let me give you a little glimmer of hope. If we're lucky, if we have the votes behind us, if we can get out the vote, if we have God on our side, Baruch Hashem, we may be only 28 days away from never having to endure such an abortive, atrocious rally as that ever, ever again.

The problem for today is not only did Trump do a rally, Donald Trump also did a town hall, and it was arguably even worse. In Fayetteville, North Carolina, Donald Trump took questions in an effort to show how great he is at staying on message, at synthesizing language to communicate things of meaning. Andald trump once again as the questions came in embroiled in a battle to the death against merriam-webster dictionary as well as his own tongue and teeth and brain all of them conspiring to not allow Trump to put together coherent thoughts. Almost beyond parody, Trump starts the event in North Carolina by vowing bravely to restore Confederate names to some military facilities that were renamed away from Confederate.

I hate to call them heroes, but I guess they're heroes to the losing side. Listen to this. Should we change the name from Fort Liberty back to Fort Bragg? First question. Right. So here's what we do. We get elected. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. And we're leading in all the polls. We should get elected.

But remember this. They cheat like hell. We got it too big to rig. We need to be. You cannot make this stuff up. Trump is bragging about and promising to rename things back to Confederacy era members of the military and people in the crowd are cheering. They're cheering for it in the crowd. What's worse, that Trump promises it or that the crowd cheers. Also beyond belief, a Vietnam veteran presented Trump with a purple heart that the Vietnam vet had received for his service there.

Trump famously said that his personal Vietnam was avoiding STDs and Trump avoided the real Vietnam with a note about his feet. Take a look at this. This to the crowd. He had actually written a letter to you after you'd been shot in Pennsylvania. Dear President Trump, watching you during the Butler rally and you getting back up, both my wife and I gave a sigh of relief as well as a few tears. I would be honored if you would accept this small token that I received as a young Marine in Vietnam. My wife and I both thought it appropriate. God bless you, your family, and the United States of America.

Sincerely, Dwight. Dwight, where you at? Thank you. Whoa. Looks like a check. It's a check. It's cash. For those of you who may not know, Dwight had given President Trump his purple heart.

That's right. That's right. I couldn't thank anybody more deserving of a Purple Heart. Thank you very much. You took it, you laid down there, you got back up, and the first words out of your mouth was, fight, fight, fight. You didn't even have anything to shoot back at. It is shocking to me that anyone would even want to give Trump their Purple Heart.

And then the last question Trump takes is from a Space Force veteran who says he was fired for criticizing DEI trainings. Turns out that's not true, but let's listen to what he said. My name is Matt Lohmeyer. I was an Air Force F-15 pilot, and I was a commander in your newly created U.S. Space Force. I am also the first veteran of the Space Force, because under the Biden-Harris regime, I was fired from my command and lost my pension for criticizing DEI trainings that were rampant in the military.

Those trainings are still dividing our troops, and thank you for saying you would fire those few woke generals who are a big problem. I'm going to suggest that it might, in fact, require ongoing oversight and a persistent, consistent, watchful eye within the Pentagon to ensure this monster never returns to the Defense Department. Will you consider establishing a special task force, office, or position to ensure that these monsters never return to the Defense Department. And you know what I'll do? And I'm pretty good at this stuff. Sometimes you get it wrong, I'm going to put you on that task force. I think it's good. Not going to do better than him.

I'll put you on. Make sure you give the name. Thank you. Beautiful man, right? I have your approval. Yes, sir. I have your approval. We're not going to get better than him.

You're right about it. You're right. Thank you. I'm cut. Mr. President, this guy was not fired because he criticized dei he was fired because he went on a podcast while on active duty using his rank and title to accuse fellow members of the military of being marxists that's not allowed the doj doesn't like it when a commanding officer accuses his own enlisted of being Marxists. They're lying about what's going on and they're lying about what they're doing

and they're dying, lying about what's happening to them. What's worse, Trump speaking off of a teleprompter without taking these questions or Trump taking the questions and making an even bigger fool out of himself, you're going to have to decide. Crime is sky high. People are getting murdered everywhere. They're cutting the throats of little girls and soccer moms just taking their Volvo XC 90 to practice after practice. But that's getting off track. You're hearing a ton of this crime stuff from Trump and Trump supporting Republicans lately. And at the same time, if you look at the data, crime is down.

Crime of all kinds has been coming down in the U.S. since before Trump was president. It's kept coming down since Joe Biden became president and sometimes under record speed. But this crime is up stuff is really good fodder for MAGA rallies and Trump speeches. Trump often telling the lurid stories about specific crimes, sometimes involving immigrants, sometimes not. So we're going to be exploring the sick origins of these ideas. Trump didn't just pull them out of thin air. But before we do that, I do kind of want to say one thing.

I don't know if I need to say this, but I want to get it on record. A country of 330 million people will have some crime just because crime is coming down. I don't want you to think that this in any way diminishes the tragic nature of the crimes that have taken place. I can see it now. Oh, David, you say crime is down. Don't you care about Susie who was carjacked? I do care. But in a country of 330 million, crime can be down but still exist. And we're going to

talk about the broader crime trends, not whether Susie was carjacked, which is a tragedy regardless. It turns out that the origins of the crime is up nonsense comes from the same place as the more guns make people safer stuff. Does the name John Lott ring a bell? If it does, it's because he's been on this show before arguing about what he claims is more guns making people safer. The same guy behind that story is behind the crime is up under Biden story. And John Lott has a long history of unethical behavior. Before we debunk crime is up. Let me tell you a little bit about John Lott. John Lott is a pro gun

advocate who has been caught fraudulently claiming to have published a study in the peer reviewed econ journal watch, even though the journal rejected his paper, fraudulently claimed that more than 94% of mass shootings occur in gun-free zones by counting each fatality over 20 years as its own shooting. Six people died and six people injured in a shooting. Well, that's 12 shootings, according to John Lott. Pathetic, falsely claimed that the mass shooting rate in Europe is the same as in the US, even though his own research showed that the US has double Europe's rate of mass shootings. L Lot falsely claimed under oath that every country that has banned guns, some murder rates go up despite the fact that to pick one example, Japan's homicide rate fell more

than 75% in the decades after it passed a series of laws banning firearms. And John Lott also got caught fabricating an entire survey on defensive gun use. When asked to provide the hard evidence of the survey, he said, my computer crashed and I lost the data. Oh, my dog, my dog ate it. I could go on. There are many more examples, but I won't because we're here to talk about crime. But you get the picture about John Lott's lack of ethics

and honesty. So now we get to crime and the last few months. In recent months, the Trump presidential campaign has featured John Lott at its press conferences. Trump himself has directly cited Lott's organization and research. Trump's data based crime claims come predominantly from John Lott. Elon Musk entered the national conversation on guns and crime also by promoting a video about John Lott's work undermining the FBI, which was viewed more than 11 million times as a result. So this guy is having a major influence over the crime is up story

that Trump and MAGA is telling. So now let's talk about the claims that John Lott makes about crime. John Lott has a three pronged approach to claiming that crime is up. First is claiming that in polling, Americans think crime is going up. We'll get to that in a moment. But understand one of one of his cited pieces of evidence for crime being up is that Americans think crime is up. We'll get back to that. Secondly, Lott has criticized the FBI's crime data, which shows that crime is down.

This is a classic go to move from the crime is up people. We will address it in a moment. And third, lot points to a 2022 survey from the National Crime Victimization Survey showing a spike in violent crime. Let's deal with each of these one at a time. So first of all, lotott says crime is up because as evidenced by Americans believing that crime is up. OK, well, two important caveats here. First of all, Americans might believe crime is up because Republicans keep telling them crime is up and it's becoming a national story.

So you might believe crime is up, even though it's not because you're being told crime is up and it's becoming a national story. So you might believe crime is up even though it's not because you're being told crime is up. Secondly, it's not a new phenomenon that Americans wrongly believe crime is up. There is polling going back to the 1990s where Americans believed crime is up. Crime is up. 2000s crime is up. 2010s crime is up. And crime has generally speaking been declining over that period of time. Americans regularly believe things that aren't correct. So the first prong of John Lott's story is not true. Now we get to FBI data. John Lott criticizes FBI data that says crime is down. And what lot claims is that people no longer report crime because fill in the blank, right? People no longer report crime because the police quote won't do anything.

Uh, people no longer report crime because the local police don't report crime to the FBI. So people no longer call the police. These are classics. We've heard these many times before. The first claim that people don't report crime to the police is undercut because in general crime victimization surveys, which don't depend on police reports, they are separate data sources. Crime victimization surveys overall over time mirror the decline in crime that the FBI data

shows. Secondly, the claim that the police aren't reporting crime to the FBI has also been debunked. All major city agencies, I believe other than Tucson, Arizona, now fully report data. FBI data isn't perfect. It's never been perfect. It is not credit credible to suggest that FBI data is missing some historic surge in crime. So this now gets us to the NCVS, the specific single crime victimization survey that lot

says, look at that survey. It says crime is up. Now I have no interest in deceiving you about any aspect of this. John lot is correct that the NCVS data show in 2022, there was an increase in violent crime. But this has already been studied. And it's also very dishonest to point to that as evidence that crime has continued going up. Let me explain. When we look at homicide data from the CDC, it supports the FBI data that crime is down, not NCVS claim that there's a spike in crime. When we look at crime data from the Council of Criminal Justice, it doesn't support a rise in crime.

It supports a decline in crime. When we look at gun violence data from the gun violence archive, it doesn't support the increase in crime claimed by the NCVS. It's just not corroborated anywhere. John Lott has cherry picked NCVS 2022. And that gets me to another aspect of NCVS 2022. That doesn't make sense. The 22, why, why is he focused on 2022? You can probably guess the 2022 NCVS data was collected in 2021 and 2022. We're now in 2024, almost 2025. And John Lott is claiming and MAGA is claiming that this survey with data from 21 and 22 proves that crime is up now, that crime is up in 2023, that crime is up in 2024,

which is the opposite of what we're finding. And this is two to three year old data, very dishonest, and it doesn't make any sense. So what is this really about? You can probably guess what much of this is really about. This is about a few things and they're all political. It's all about what is useful to Donald Trump and Republicans in trying to justify saying, vote for me and not her, not Kamala Harris. Vote for Ted Cruz and not Colin Allred or whatever down ballot race we're talking about. It's about attacking so-called Democrat cities, suggesting most of the crime is in cities and it's Democrats fault. So vote Trump.

Of course, Democrats tend to run cities because cities have more Democrats. The reality is that high crime cities and low crime cities can be run by Democrats. Democrats tend to prefer to live in cities. The reality is that the crime rate is higher in rural areas that are more conservative. The reality is that the crime rate is higher in red states and red cities. For example, Oklahoma City has a higher crime rate than New York City. Oklahoma as a state has a higher crime rate than New York state. This is also about scapegoating immigrants. It's not just about scapegoating Democrats. It's also which I should mention, I guess I don't want to ignore that a lot of times it's about scapegoating urban liberal young men.

They're talking about black people. OK, you just have to be honest and understand what they're talking about. So that's one aspect. But it's also about scapegoating immigrants. And that's why when Trump during his rallies talks about crime, he will inevitably bring up some lurid anecdote about a specific crime committed by usually an undocumented immigrant. The reality that very much undercuts Trump's story is that documented and undocumented immigrants commit crime at lower rates than us born citizens. So it's also about attacking immigrants. And as a proxy, this is also about justifying contesting the election results because among the immigrant crimes are voting

crimes. Trump in his ideal world would convince people that an undocumented migrant crosses the U.S. Mexico border, rapes one person and kills another, and then goes to a polling place and says, I'm John Smith and I'm here to vote for Kamala Harris. Of course, that is a caricature and completely ridiculous. But if you believe that story, when the election results come in, especially if it's a narrow loss for Donald Trump and he goes, it was rigged and I need to do this and that and take control of voting machines and convince Brian Kemp to overturn Georgia, you might be more likely to go along with that as Trump is to have because they say,

listen, the migrants are voting illegally and crime is up and all of this different stuff. So part of the motivation is lay the groundwork for a population that will be more willing to accept challenges to the 2024 election results. My suggestion is look up the data and refuse to buy into anything that is not justified by the data. And this gets me to, you know, I love reminding people of this. I do not claim to be the ultimate source of truth. I've looked at all of the data sources. I mentioned various crime victimization surveys, CDC data, FBI data, local police departments.

What I see is a continued decline in crime. That's bigger than Joe Biden. It's bigger than Trump. It's bigger than Obama. It predates all of them. And yes, policy and economic circumstances can sort of move the needle up and down. There can be spikes. Are there more carjackings in a particular city during a six month period? Sure. But overall, what I see is the crime rate going down. If I found something different in the data, I would tell you. So fact check me.

Unlike Trump, I am not telling you. Only I can tell you the reality of what's going on. What I'm finding is that Trump and MAGA are lying about the crime is up narrative. And the source of a lot of that fabrication is John Lott, a guy whose claim to fame is saying the more guns we stuff into public places, the safer everybody will be. That's the guy providing a lot of what I consider to be very unreliable research on this issue, providing that to Donald Trump. Look it up for yourselves. If you find something different and I'm being honest here, if you find something different,

email me info at David Pakman dot com. Tell me where I'm wrong. Explain to me where I can find in the data that crime is actually going up. And I will come here and eat one of my turtlenecks in and ask for your forgiveness. Donald Trump cracked on race on the Hugh Hewitt program. There is not even a pretense of only acting as though maybe you're talking about people's race. It is now full blown eugenics that the failed former president is engaging in. Here is Donald Trump speaking about migrants and says you can tell from their genetics. You can tell from their genetics you can tell from their genetics which ones are likely to murder listen to this she wants to go into government housing she wants

to go into government feeding she wants to feed people uh she wants to feed people governmentally she wants she wants to go into a communist party type system. When you look at the things that she proposes, they're so far off, she has no clue. How about allowing people to come to an open border, 13,000 of which were murderers, many of them murdered far more than one person, and they're now happily living in the United States. You know, now a murderer, I believe this,

it's in their genes. And we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now. They left. They had four. There is just so much sick and disgusting stuff here. First of all, you have to start with immigrants as a group don't commit crimes at higher rates than native born citizens. In fact, immigrants, both documented and undocumented, commit crimes at higher rates than native-born citizens. In fact, immigrants,

both documented and undocumented, commit crimes at rates lower than American-born citizens. You have to start there. But then we go to this idea of bad genes. It's in their genes. This points to a sort of hereditary genetic biological explanation for criminal behavior. Some people are inherently predisposed to violence or murder. You can check their genetics, and then if you can do that, you can say, well, you don't get to come to the U.S., but you do based on your genes, which are a proxy for race. It's scientifically inaccurate. There's no murder gene. There's no genetic predisposition to criminality. Human behavior is about social economic psychological

environmental factors it's not simply biology although certainly biology can play a part for example in how quickly someone might move to aggression in certain situations but it's a fraction of the total picture and you can't ignore the connection to nazism you can't ignore the connection to Nazism. You can't ignore it. And, you know, we have this piece this week about when is it okay to say this element of an authoritarian is like Hitler or Mussolini or whatever. This has an aspect of Nazism. The genetic stuff directly echoes the eugenics that were central to Nazi beliefs. Nazis promoted these ideas of racial purity, and they believed certain groups, especially Jews and Roma, disabled folks, are genetically inferior.

They pose a threat to society, and therefore it's justified to do what they want to do, which is remove these genetics from the gene pool, either through killing people or euthanasia, which is a form of killing people if done forcibly, or forced sterilization so they can't reproduce. This is right out of the Nazi playbook. And Trump's rhetoric doesn't explicitly endorse eugenics, but it points to the same ideology. Trump is like a dictator light. He wants to be a dictator, but supposedly only for a day.

He believes genetics should tell us where people should fit into society or whether they should be part of American society at all. It strips people of humanity. It provides cover for doing horrible things to people. It is toxic, disgusting stuff, which we've come to expect from Trump. And if we do what we need to do in 28 days, maybe 2930, if Trump's still out there on November 6th and 7th, it could be the end of having to hear this stuff. Let's hope. Here is another example of a Republican being asked, did Trump lose in 2020? And he won't answer. We talked yesterday and last week

about how J.D. Vance was asked this question and he didn't answer it during the VP debate. After that, Corey Lewandowski was asked this question and he didn't answer it. And then J.D. Vance was asked it during a town hall sort of event by a member of the media and he didn't answer it. And now we have Senator Tom Cotton interviewed by Kristen Welker, asked again, did Trump lose? And he says just about everything you can imagine other than yes, and other than answering the question. Let's take a listen. I want to talk about one of the big moments this week from the vice presidential debate. We just played it in the open when Senator J.D. Vance refused to say that Donald Trump lost the 2020

election. I want to put this question to you, Senator, just to put this to rest. Can you say definitively here and now that Donald Trump did lose the 2020 election? Kristen, Joe Biden was elected president in 2020. It was an unfair election in many ways. I mean, you had states that were changing their election practices or election laws, sometimes in violation of their constitution. You had networks combining with big tech to suppress what we now know to be a truthful story about Hunter Biden's laptop and the evidence that it exposed about Biden family corruption. So obviously, Joe Biden was elected president. We know that in part because Trump loose to Joe Biden was elected, Kristen. I mean, there's a process by which we elect

presidents. There's votes in November. You have an electoral college vote. You certify the election and then you have the inauguration. Joe Biden was elected president. Everything has gone to hell in a handbasket as a result of it. As you know, though, I mean, it has been stated that this was one of the most secure elections in U.S. history. But do you just not want to say that Trump lost? Why not just say the simple question? If Biden is president, can you just simply say trump lost joe joe biden was elected president in 2020 that's why we have runaway inflation that's why we have more than 10 million illegals in this country and to go back to the point about the 2020 election it was very irregular you had networks to include this networks conspiring with big tech to suppress

evidence of biden family corruption you had Democratic states and cities like Pennsylvania, like Philadelphia, changing their election practices on the fly. That's one reason why President Trump and the Republican National Committee is so focused on election integrity in this election to make sure that Democrats aren't doing things like they're trying to do in Pennsylvania, counting absentee and mail-in ballots that don't have dates. And there's no proof that that happened. And again, just to be clear, as I said initially, Trump did take his case to court more than 60 times, didn't win those cases. Okay, so he played that game. These guys and gals love to say, it's a game when the media asks us, did Trump lose? The game is when they say, not Biden, I'm sorry, not Trump lost, but Biden became the

president. Biden was elected president. The game they're playing is they can't deny that Biden is really the president and he's really the one in the Oval Office. That's too crazy. There are Trumpists who do it. You go to Trump rallies like we've done. You talk to people.

Some of them say Obama is really the president or Obama or Trump is still really the president. There are some of them deluded enough to say that someone other than Biden is the president. Senators like Tom Cotton, they know I can't go around saying Biden's not the president. But what I can do is simply say Biden's the president and stop there. Implied in that is that while Biden was inaugurated, he only got his 270 electoral votes through some kind of cheating or there was fraud or whatever the case may be. Now, Tom Cotton also says, you know, states changed a lot of laws. They did that legally. They love to say they changed laws outside of what the Constitution allows. The truth is they changed laws about mail-in and absentee voting

as allowed during a health emergency, which there was at the time the COVID pandemic. They don't have to like it and they don't, even though now they're taking advantage of it and saying, vote early, vote by mail, do whatever, just vote. But it is not true that anything illegal was done. It is allowed in the case of a health emergency to change the rules around absentee ballot or early voting

without involving the legislature. That is absolutely okay. And then finally, when they talk about, we know that networks suppressed the big story about Hunter Biden. That story exposed nothing about the Biden family corruption because nothing has been proven about Biden family corruption. Ultimately, what they want you to believe is that if people had seen Hunter Biden's

penis and whatever he was up to with, I guess, prostitutes, that you would have voted for Trump instead of Biden. If that's true about you, if you would have voted for Trump instead of Biden, had you only seen Hunter Biden's penis, that is some really weird shit to once again, quote George W. Bush two shows in a row. If they simply said Trump lost, yeah, that's it. Trump lost. We're going to win this time. I wish Trump had won, but he lost. This question would go away. They can't bring themselves to say it out loud because they are performing for an audience of one. And that one is Donald Trump. As I said

yesterday, the danger is if they convince enough people that Trump really won 2020 and it was stolen, they might get more people to go along with, tolerate, or even donate to Trump to try to steal this November election. That's what we have to make sure doesn't happen. On the bonus show today, I will tell you what I'm doing in Vegas, what happened on my flight here. A lot of interesting hijinks. We're going to talk about a Philadelphia restaurant that has banned a Republican because they were wrongly told that a fundraiser for the Republican was actually a fundraiser for ending autism. And the Bitcoin bros are feeling betrayed by Trump. Why? Because Trump's doing everything for himself, as he always does.

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