The David Pakman Show - 11/11/24: Kari Lake loses again as global horror spreads over first Trump picks
Episode Date: November 11, 2024-- On the Show: -- Donald Trump selects Tom Homan as his "border czar," Congresswoman Elise Stefanik as his Ambassador to the United Nations, and Susan Wiles as his Chief of Staff, all disastrous c...hoices -- Donald Trump humiliates Nikki Haley after her months of her sucking up to Trump by saying he will not be offering her a role in his administration -- Kari Lake loses again, this time losing her Senate race against Democratic Congressman Ruben Gallego in Arizona -- The left should stop promoting bogus election fraud conspiracy theories that make us sound like Trump supports from 2020 -- Los Angeles and Massachusetts announce that they will simply not comply or assist with Donald Trump's planned mass deportations -- After a brief decline for progressive media post-election, bloodthirsty pro-Trump influencers are circling and hoping to destroy progressive media completely -- Exploring how Donald Trump won young male voters in 2024 -- Scottish politician Patrick Harvie blasts Scotland's First Minister John Swinney over his congratulation of Donald Trump -- Donald Trump's allies are privately panicking and we discuss why -- On the Bonus Show: Dems did better than Harris downballot, exploring abortion rights voters who also voted for Trump, judge will decide whether Trump's hush money conviction can stand, much more... 🧴 Amallow skin cream: Use code PAKMAN for 15% off at https://amallow.com/pakman 😁 Zippix Toothpicks: Code PAKMAN10 saves you 10% at https://zippixtoothpicks.com 🐶 Ollie dog food: Use code PAKMAN for 60% OFF your first box of meals at https://ollie.com ⚠️ Ground News: Get 50% OFF their unlimited access Vantage plan at https://ground.news/pakman 🛡️ Incogni lets you control your personal data! Get 60% off their annual plan: http://incogni.com/pakman 💻 Get Private Internet Access for 83% OFF + 4 months free at https://www.piavpn.com/David 🛌 Helix Sleep: Get 25% OFF and 2 free pillows at https://helixsleep.com/pakman -- Become a Member: https://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/davidpakmanshow -- TDPS Subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/thedavidpakmanshow -- Pakman Discord: https://www.davidpakman.com/discord -- David on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave a Voicemail: (219)-2DAVIDP
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Welcome, everybody. Hope you had a good weekend. We genuinely have a great show today. I actually
said to Pat today, let's not immediately delete all evidence of today's show. Like, I think
it's a good enough one to include in the archives. We are going to start with global horror or horror, as Bernie Sanders would say, over
Donald Trump's first new hires.
We suspected it would be wacky.
We suspected it would be weaponized.
We suspected it would wow the world in terms of incompetence.
And it is not disappointing. Let's start with Donald Trump's
announcement that he will be appointing Project 2025 contributor Tom Homan as his, quote, border
czar. Donald Trump putting out a post on Troth Central, quote, I am pleased to announce that the former ICE director and stalwart border on border control Tom Homan will be joining the Trump administration in charge of our nation's borders.
The borders are including but not limited to the southern border, the northern border, all maritime and aviation security. I've known Tom for a long
time and there is nobody better at policing and controlling our borders. Likewise, Tom Homan will
be in charge of all deportation of illegal aliens back to their country of origin. Congratulations
to Tom. I have no doubt he will do a fantastic and long awaited for job.
This is the worst of the worst of the worst. Tom Homan is a real, if one man could be
a humanitarian crisis in and of himself, a human rights fiasco, it would be Tom Homan.
He has the mass deportation plans and has expressed his intentions to implement these
large scale deportations that Donald Trump has been talking about.
He said that he will quote run the largest deportation operation in this country's, uh,
this country's ever seen, which as we know is going to be a total disaster.
He is a big advocate for family separation.
He's promoted the great replacement conspiracy theory of a Democratic plot to systematically
replace white people with non-white people in order to something. They always it gets a little
shaky at the in order to, but it's still part of it. Uh, Tom Homan's been linked to policies that have faced legal challenges as well as public
outcry, including the use of detention camps for immigrants, which, uh, is constitutionally
questionable for sure.
Aggressive enforcement strategies, which have raised civil rights concerns, especially when
it comes to due process,
when it comes to the humane treatment of migrants. If you like law and order, this is the wrong guy.
If you like human rights, this is the wrong guy. If you like common sense, this is the wrong guy.
Now, in addition to Tom Homan, CNN is reporting that Donald Trump has offered brown nosing suck up Republican
Congresswoman Elise Stefanik, just a vomitous person. Trump has offered Stefanik the position
of United Nations ambassador. I'm sorry, United States ambassador to the United Nations, a major humiliation. Stefanik is truly horrible, hard to find a more committed, total brown nosing Trump loyalist.
She promoted the 2020 election fraud conspiracy theories.
She opposes even basic climate change mitigation initiatives.
She's expressed skepticism towards international
agreements in general, including the Paris climate agreement. This is one of the underpinnings
of the United Nations as a concept, global cooperation. When we enter an agreement,
we stick to it. Well, Elise Stefanik doesn't believe that another disaster. And then we have news that Susan Wiles, who was
the co-chair of Trump's campaign up until a few days ago, has been selected as Donald Trump's
White House chief of staff. She was the CEO previously of that completely deranged and
dysfunctional Save America PAC that Trump had. She will enforce Trump's version of
loyalty among his staff. There will be no dissent among the ranks. Uh, the beatings will continue
until the morale improves, I think is a slogan or motto that we could very much ascribe to Susan
Wiles. So that's horrible. And then of course we still have the to be determined what is Robert F. Kennedy junior
going to be doing in this administration?
What is Elon Musk going to be doing?
So we are days in, I guess six days, five days in and we already have a few selections,
some probable selections and it is completely and totally dystopian. If you are terrified about
this, well, I understand why. But later in the show, I will tell you that much of what these
picks would seek to do can be resisted by mayors, by governors and others, which just reinforces
the importance of the off year elections,
the down ballot elections, et cetera. So we will get to that. But I do want to mention someone
who will not be hired by Donald Trump. Donald Trump has pre fired Nikki Haley.
Nikki, was it all worth it? Remember that Nikki Haley completely humiliated herself after saying
Trump is not fit to lead after saying it would be a global and domestic fiasco for Donald Trump to
be president. That's when she was running against him in the primary after she lost.
She thought about it after Trump made fun of her husband, who was deployed for not being
at her events.
After all of it, Nikki Haley, she kissed the ring.
She said, well, we're not going to vote for Kamala.
So I do support Trump maybe holding out hope for some kind of role in Trump's administration.
And Donald Trump has committed the ultimate
humiliation of Nikki Haley. He has pre-fired her posting to Troth Central quote, I will not be
inviting former ambassador Nikki Haley or former secretary of state Mike Pompeo to join the Trump
administration, which is currently in formation. I very much enjoyed
and appreciated working with them previously and would like to thank them for their service to our
country. Make America great again. It's not going to happen for Nikki. And you know, I, I, I have to
tell you, we saw last week's election as an inflection point for MAGA.
If Trump had been defeated last week, it would have effectively been the end of MAGA as an
independent political movement.
Now with Trump's win, it is likely that the Republican party will be MAGA for a while.
Nikki Haley, as someone who has now been very clearly delineated outside the
movement, sorry, Nikki, you're not going to get a role in my administration. She now gets the worst
of both worlds. She now has ultimately come around and debased herself after saying unequivocally,
this guy can't be president. This guy's dangerous. He's not fit.
He's declining. He can't do it. She came out and she said, actually, I'm going to vote for him.
And you should to completely embarrassing herself that way. And for what? Because Donald Trump has
now said, sorry, Nikki, you're outside of MAGA. And as designated such, she is going to be on the outside of the Republican party looking in.
If MAGA continues to be the policy package or ideology that reigns Supreme in 2026 and in 2028,
Nikki Haley through her sequence of running against Trump saying he can't possibly win
and debasing herself by saying, actually, you got to wait, You got to vote for him now ends up squarely with nothing.
Was it worth it for Nikki?
I wonder what she would say privately.
Publicly, she will, of course, say, oh, I make decisions not based on someone's whether
going whether someone's going to do me a favor by giving me a job.
I just make the decision that's right for our country.
And Trump was right over Kamala for the country.
Privately, I would be very curious to hear what she says about being pathetically pre
fired by Donald Trump.
Let's go from a, I guess, non MAGA Republican Nikki Haley, although she did say vote for
the guy.
So maybe she is MAGA Republican Nikki Haley, although she did say vote for the guy. So maybe she is
MAGA. I don't know. Two hardcore ultra giga MAGA cringe MAGA Carrie Lake. I have fantastic news
for all of us and for the country and for Arizona and for the world. Carrie Lake has lost again and I am now begging her, Carrie, please go away forever.
I don't ever want to hear your name again, except Trump may hire her now and make her
part of his administration.
We will get to that.
We have new reporting from the Hill.
Ruben Gallego, friend of the show, great guy, former guest on the show, soon to be former
congressman because he's going to the Senate.
Ruben has defeated Carrie Lake.
They were starting with the hijinks once again, but it didn't work.
Ruben Gallego with 50% of the vote defeating Carrie Lake in Arizona.
It has been called.
They're still counting ballots.
They could be counting ballots in Arizona for who the hell knows how long, but mathematically it is out of reach for Carrie Lake
Rubin at this moment, leading by 66,000 votes. I take great pleasure. I have to call me a bad
person. Say, David, that's so mean. I take great pleasure that as recently as
yesterday, Carrie Lake was posting excretions to X where she was saying, quote, the deadline to
cure ballots is five p.m. tonight. Let's make sure every vote counts. She was still pushing yesterday that she had a chance to win.
But you know what?
Forget about curing ballots.
She can air fry, poach, saute or grill those ballots.
It won't change the fact that she has been rejected again by Arizona voters and it is
time for her to go away.
Now there's a secondary pathetic Ella secondary.
There's so many pathetic elements to Carrie Lake.
First of all, it's the pathetic element that she was an Obama supporter previously and
she seems to above all else be an opportunist.
Oh, I can get attention by attacking Democrats and hitching my completely whacked out wagon
to Donald Trump.
I'll do it.
And then, of course, she lost in 2022 and Katie Hobbs became governor.
And then she says, I'm running again, but I'm still trying to overturn that other election.
But I'm running here and she loses again.
It's all pathetic.
But here's a little pathetic cherry on top.
Her loss is particularly funny given that Trump won Arizona by 185,000 votes with 1.58
million votes and Carrie Lake at latest count lost her Senate race by 66,000 votes with 1.49 million votes.
This means that there are about a hundred thousand Arizonans who took the time to vote,
supported Donald Trump, voted for Trump and went out of their way not to vote for Carrie
Lake down ballot.
Think about that. This is how for Carrie Lake down ballot. Think about that.
This is how hated Carrie Lake is.
This is how on the serious a person and a candidate.
Carrie Lake is that a hundred thousand Arizona Republicans said, Oh Trump, yeah, absolutely.
Carrie Lake, I'm going to leave it blank.
Maybe vote for the third party candidate.
Maybe vote for Ruben Gallego
or write somebody else in. They went out of their way not to vote for Carrie Lake, despite the fact
that they were in the voting booth, filling out their ballot and voting for Donald Trump.
Please let this be the final humiliation for Carrie Lake, who has no business being involved
in electoral politics.
She shouldn't be dog catcher.
She shouldn't be the person who tries to collect overdue book fees at the local library.
She really shouldn't be trusted with any responsibility.
And let's hope that she's not.
Although I am worried that Donald Trump is going to hire her.
Let's take a very quick break. It's a packed
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dozens of messages. Okay. I mean, listen, it's not hundreds. It audience. I've received dozens of messages.
Okay.
I mean, listen, it's not hundreds, it's not thousands, but dozens of messages claiming
that there really was voter fraud in 2024 and that this time the voter fraud is why
Trump won rather than why Trump lost as he claimed in 2020.
It's obvious the people writing to me say no one believes that turnout really declined
so much from 2020 David, it can't be clearly Trump's little secret that he alluded to at
one of his final rallies was a plan he had in place to rig and steal the election. Now, I always keep an open mind and I resisted just
dismissing this stuff without looking at it because I want to be sure that I am thorough
and convincing here. But I looked and there is no evidence I was able to find of even reasons to
suspect voter fraud as the reason why Trump won and
what I need to communicate.
And I say this with peace and love and total humility and, and flattery.
When we start this stuff in 2024, we sound like the mega Potamans from 2020.
Okay.
Trump really lost in 2020 period.
There's I don't feel the need to say anything. He lost in
2020. Trump really won in 2024. Now stay with me until the end. I know you're already typing a
furious YouTube comment. Just stay with me until the end and then start the attacking comments.
Okay. I will tell you where the real tampering is, but first let me
lay this out. Now I want to clarify, I'm not doing this for any reason other than we don't want to be
like them and make bogus claims. And two, if you don't diagnose the problem, you can't possibly
fix it. If you become convinced that your car won't start because the alternator isn't working,
you won't be able to fix the problem. If the issue is there's simply no gas in the gas tank.
You've got to diagnose the problem to be able to fix it.
The primary claim that people are writing to me about is that in 2020 Biden got 81 million
votes and Trump got 74 and supposedly in 2024 Trump got 74 million votes or something like that.
Uh, but Harris got only 69 million.
And so Harris saw a decline of 12 million votes.
That just can't be, there's no way 81 P 81 million people voted Biden in 2020 and only
69 million voted Harris in 2024.
It's, it must be fraud.
The first thing is a lot of people started
claiming this while votes were still being counted. If we just wait a few days, the numbers
change. And the latest projection based on the outstanding vote count right now is that we had 155 million total votes in 2020 and close to 155 million total votes in 2024.
Uh, it is indeed true that Trump, uh, uh, had an increase in the number of votes and
it is true that, uh, the democratic candidate had a decrease in the number of votes, but the total decline is expected to be about
half of 1% in total vote count from 2020 to 2024.
This is not the massive decline that some are claiming would be a huge red flag.
Trump's support went up about four and a quarter million.
The democratic candidate support went down about
5 million. This is not some huge red flag that some are claiming. Now, another claim has been,
we have had so many new voters since 2020 and we're supposed to believe that turnout is down.
That must be fraud.
What you must understand is that since 2020, many states implemented automatic voter registration.
Tons of people were automatically registered.
It used to be because you have to choose to register that if you register, you are more
likely to vote than if you are simply automatically registered.
It's just not
really evidence of fraud. Another claim is that Elon Musk's Starlink satellites
may have somehow changed votes. Once again, there is just no evidence of that. I don't even really
know how plausible it is, but there is certainly no evidence that it happened.
So we simply lost.
Kamala Harris was not a good enough candidate to override and supersede a generally negative
feeling about the economy.
No matter what the data said, the platform should be fixed.
You know, maybe Biden should never have run for reelection. Maybe
there should have been a real primary from day one. And lots of people liked what Trump was
offering. And there are clueless people. All of those things are true. But we can't start doing
like our versions of what they did in 2020. I have an extensive couple of chapters in my book, The Echo Machine. I'm kind of choking
here. The Echo Machine about how we got here and the claims that we are now getting about Trump
voter fraud. There's just no evidence for them. Now, what is true is that for 20 years,
Republicans have worked to disincentivize people from voting, reducing early voting
hours, purging voter rolls, all of those things.
It is totally reasonable to believe and to expect that to some degree, Democratic turnout
may have been suppressed a little bit by those techniques in critical states. The margins
in some of those critical states so extensive that it's hard to believe they would explain
Trump's win. I just don't see it. In a recent interview before the election,
Trump said that he didn't think his supporters would cause problems after the election,
but that the left would saying the left is the enemy from within and might be needed to be handled
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positive here, just as a reminder that the off year elections, the down ballot elections, this stuff really matters and can have a huge
consequential impact. We are now hearing from governors, from mayors, city councils,
that they simply aren't going to participate or help the federal government with Donald Trump's
planned mass deportations of initially undocumented immigrants. Although
Trump is already talking about just willy nilly revoking temporary protected status from those
here legally and trying to deport them as well. First and foremost, Jim McDonald has been sworn
in as LAPD chief. And he has said that Los Angeles is not going to comply.
They just are not going to do it.
He said LAPD will not assist with mass deportations.
Los Angeles is a city of immigrants.
I know that immigrants are being disparaged.
He said, my job is to protect everyone in Los Angeles and to build trust.
That's what I plan to do.
There's an aspect to this that I think is often missed when it comes to what does it
mean to support law enforcement?
What does it mean to actually say we are with the police?
When individuals in a city come to believe or come to know if it's the case that that
it's what's going to happen. If individuals in a city learn my legal status is going to be the subject of interest in any
interaction with police, you are both more likely not to call the police when it would be appropriate
to do so because you may say, I don't want my legal status here questioned.
And you are more likely not to cooperate with police when you are the subject of an investigation,
a witness, et cetera.
It's terrible for law enforcement's ability to do what they are there to do, which is to keep Los Angeles safe.
When your interactions with the general public are now clouded by, are they going
to ask me for papers?
Are they here because Trump sent them to find me or whatever the case may be.
So a lot is being made of this declaration from McDonald when it comes to it being morally
and ethically correct.
And that's fine.
That's a perfectly reasonable analysis to make, but it's also self interested in the
sense that police departments, at least when they are led by competent and intelligent
people understand that you want an environment in which both witnesses, victims and suspects
are more incentivized to cooperate rather than disincentivized.
And so as much as I like this, because it's a form of resistance
against Trump's completely inhumane planned mass deportations, it also should be considered that
it's what's best for law enforcement. Now in Massachusetts, governor Maura Healey has also
said at the state level, we will not cooperate. We will not comply with the mass deportations.
Boston.com reports. Governor Maura Healey said that state police would not be used to deport migrants and vowed to use, quote, every tool in the toolbox to counter the next Trump administration.
When we think about down ballot and we see, for example, that that whacked out Republican Lieutenant Governor Robinson in North Carolina was defeated by Josh Stein.
I just had a moment where is his name actually Josh Stein or did I just get that wrong?
Josh Stein.
Yes.
Josh Stein, the North Carolina attorney general Democrat who just won as much of a disaster
as we all know it is it to be that Trump won the presidency and that Republicans are
taking the Senate and it's looking like they're going to take the house.
We all, we're all on the same page on that.
All hope is not lost when you say, Hey, you know what?
Thanks to Maura Healey as governor in Massachusetts, Massachusetts is off the list as far as states
that will cooperate with the mass deportation.
You can be, although Josh Stein hasn't said one way or the other yet, if Mark Robinson
had won the governorship in North Carolina, you can be damn well sure that he would be
assisting Donald Trump in the mass deportations.
My assumption and hope is, and maybe he'll, he'll make a statement about it soon. My assumption is that Josh Stein as governor of North Carolina is not going to cooperate in that.
And so it's a reminder that the down ballot mattered last week, the off year gubernatorial
elections that will be just under 12 months from now, those matter. Mayorships matter. Police chiefs matter. And so
the point is, don't think that because these elections are only every two, four and six years,
right? House president and Senate two, four and six years. Don't wrongly fall into the belief
that all hope is lost and there's nothing worthy of getting involved in next year and the year
after that.
So some good news out of California, Gavin Newsom, we talked about last week is forming
this special session to try to nuke some of the things that Trump wants to do.
There is a lot of value here.
All right.
You have to see this.
I never expected that I would ever be a, be doing a segment like this, but it's where we are.
I don't know that I've ever seen a group of sore winners like the MAGA people after last Tuesday.
Everyone from Charlie Kirk to Dave Rubin, Tim Pool, a streamer named Asmongold are now gleefully taking pleasure in the short period of time
during which we in progressive media lost some subscribers after Donald Trump's win last week.
They smell blood in the water and they want to end progressive media. Don't believe me? Well,
I've got the receipts here. I told you last week, right when Trump won that we and other left wing YouTubers lost
some subscribers.
We lost about 10,000 Midas touch, lost about 30,000 Brian Tyler Cohen, Jesse Dahlem or
others.
We were all seeing it.
The loss was really rapid on Wednesday, slower on Thursday and Friday, slowly we started to see gains again.
As new people said, I don't like the results. I'm going to find someone that like-minded a media
outlet. And they say, I like this. And so by Friday, new subscribers started to outpace the
people canceling. Don't get me wrong. There's a ton of people canceling, but the new subscribers are outpacing them.
Well the Maga influencers caught wind of this and they are bloodthirsty and they want to
end us.
They believe that now that Trump won, that now that Trump is going to go after adversarial
media, now that Republicans have the Senate, that they can put us out of our misery for
good and destroy independent left wing media.
They have become obsessed with this. There are hundreds of hours of videos talking about
my explanation of what's going on. Uh, I'll give you some examples. Trump supporting streamer,
Tim pool did a video called David Packman says it's over losing subscribers and members begs leftists
to please come back. A video in which he laughs and says that our supporters must have been
artificially supported by the platforms and they aren't even real subscriber numbers that there's
a thumb on the scales was the term he uses that now is being removed because
Trump won right wing YouTuber Nate.
The lawyer did a video called top leftist YouTubers losing massive amount of subs after
Trump win blame mainstream media.
Well, I didn't blame mainstream media.
Whether losing 10,000 out of 2.6 million is a lot.
Well, I don't know. Big time streamer
Asmongold, who I have to tell you, I actually historically kind of like and find very
entertaining. Asmongold did a video that now has more than a million views where he says,
well, I wonder why Pacman and the left is losing subscribers. Oh, too bad. I'd be glad to appear with Asmongold and talk about this.
Dave Rubin, the arbiter of ideas posted about my report on this. LOL. So long suckers.
You guys have lied about everything for years called half the country racist Nazis. I never
did that and promoted every loony conspiracy theory all the while being propped up by big tech.
Your demise couldn't happen to a worse group of people.
He's thrilled.
Dave Rubin is thrilled.
By the way, he should be since we've surpassed him both in views and subscribers.
Obviously, Rubin should be thrilled about what he believes to be my impending demise.
Adam McKay, who you might remember, directed the film starring Leonardo DiCaprio. Don't look up
tweeted about my video. Good. Legacy media and Dem influencers should lose every drop of
credibility after the last checks notes, 35 years. Another major right wing YouTube channel, one of the worst of the worst
called the quartering did a video called Kamala Harris shills panic as lies finally catch up.
David Pakman has meltdown mass unsubscribes top right winger. Charlie Kirk responded to a thread
by right winger Colin rugugg, who has nearly two million
followers. Rugg posted my video with the comment Dem influencers are seeing record numbers of
subscription cancellations along with Mac mass exodus of followers. And Charlie Kirk responded,
not tired of winning. They love it. Brett Weinstein from the former intellectual dark web
sarcastically tweeted, gosh, whatever could be driving the Exodus. Even Juanita Broderick,
the woman who formerly accused famously and formerly accused Bill Clinton of sexual assault
tweeted about this. And she said gleefully the lies have caught up with them.
Maybe if they start telling the truth, things will turn around. I sort of doubt they have that courage. And even the conspiracy website, the gateway pundit picked it up with an article
called top leftist pundits are reporting reportedly hemorrhaging subscribers following Kamala's decisive defeat.
All right. You get the picture. There's hundreds more, hundreds more.
Understand that they want us gone. They smell blood. They think this is their best opportunity
to get rid of us. If Elon Musk has Twitter deprioritize us and maybe Trump goes after us and they attack
us and encourage people to cancel.
I have to tell you, I kind of respect the game.
Let me tell you what I mean.
They think we are hugely damaging to the country.
We think they are hugely damaging to the country.
They have an opportunity here.
They are taking it.
They think they can destroy progressive independent media for good.
So I'm here to deliver some bad news for them.
This lasted about 48 hours and it's going in the opposite direction.
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There is fatigue.
Some people are checking out, but we have way more subscribers today than we ever have.
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half the youth vote overall, and he straight up one male voters, 18 to 29 with 56% of that vote.
And much of what we've said so far doesn't really strike many of you as correct.
You know, we played the video of these clueless young men saying, I'm voting for Trump because
of high gas prices.
And we pointed out gas prices are as low as they've been after the pandemic.
And that's true, but that's not enough of an explanation.
It's not good enough.
It's not comprehensive enough.
There's way more here.
Now, just a few years back, we were hearing all about how younger generations were supposedly
going to be the most progressive in history and so on and so forth.
So what exactly changed in 2020?
Biden won young men and now Donald Trump won young men with 56%.
What happened?
Is it as simple as young men prefer to vote for a man rather than a woman?
Well, probably a slice of it, but there's way more to it than that. One critical shift
has been happening quietly. It's happened almost out of our view. A lot of nonpolitical spaces have become what we can call coded C O D E D coded as right wing.
We're talking here about spaces like fitness content, men's health influencers, dating and
relationship channels, workout tips, gaming communities, sports message boards, the business and entrepreneurship channels.
These are all areas where conservative values are finding a way in. And these influencers usually
aren't waving Trump flags. They're not quoting Fox headlines. The messages are less direct and
they'll often start with ideas about self-reliance, traditional
masculinity, standing up to woke culture or cancel culture.
And it's resonating with a lot of men.
They're dealing with a world where they don't feel like they have a lot of control or security.
So you get a message about take control of your life.
It speaks to them, even if it's subtly carrying this conservative twist.
And there are really countless examples of this.
Andrew Tate and these male focus podcasters have made right wing ism feel edgy or rebellious.
They talk about rejecting what they see as the softening of men and young men are listening.
Even influencers in health or business advice talk about discipline and self-reliance and
rejecting victim mentality.
These are not necessarily political messages, but they really do align with Trump's style
and his ideology.
You can find this with Dr. Drew.
You find it with Patrick, bet David, bet David is actually an overt Trump supporter.
The NELC boys, all of these different podcasts and content creators that either overtly or
implicitly are coded to support MAGA, maybe less well known to some people in my audience.
This is a good example. Dr. Mike Israel, he's one of the
top exercise scientists with, uh, mixed in to the workout content content that is imperialistic
or finds capitalism to always be the solution. He really is an expert on exercise science,
but it's a great example of how the whole thing is coded in a right wing way.
And the messaging works so well on young men. Young men today face a new reality to a degree.
They see that the promise that if you go to high school and then he may, maybe college,
maybe not even, you'll then be able to get a good job and buy a house and build a family. It's not that simple anymore. That has changed. Many of these
young men kind of feel like they have no direction. And when they try to talk about the frustration,
sometimes they're shut down. Sometimes they're called in cells and the right wing spaces,
they don't dismiss those concerns. They often validate them and provide solutions that aren't real solutions.
But the idea here is that invalidating them, it frames Trump as a champion of strength,
of toughness, of individualism.
And you can see this in video gaming communities where these messages get reinforced.
I'm not a gamer, but I have a lot of gamer friends who tell me I'm on
the subreddit for some game I play. I'm on a discord channel for a game. I play in game
content that I watch on YouTube. The coded right wing messaging is everywhere. It's in the memes.
It's in the casual jokes. It's in the memes, it's in the casual jokes, it's in the conversations that touch on feminism
being bad or taking a stance about pro freedom.
And then we get to the problem for the left.
So the first part of it is a ton of these nominally nonpolitical spaces have become
coded and shrouded in these right wing messages.
And then you have what the left contributes, which is that a lot of the progressive media has mostly missed this. And instead of engaging with young men on these
issues, they'll just go, Oh, toxic masculine masculinity. There's no clear positive alternative.
I tried to zero in on this issue. You might remember a few weeks ago, I did a video called
the MAGA manosphere and toxic masculinity. And I tried to explain exactly this
and how there's actually a missing model of masculinity from the left that would be super
useful to appeal to exactly these young, young men. The video didn't do super well. It didn't
seem that that many people were that interested in it. So this leaves a gap and it's a gap that
these right wing influencers are thrilled to be filling. They're
openly engaging on these issues. They're framing them in a way that's relatable. It's totally
problematic the way they frame it, but it's relatable. And if you're a young man searching
for guidance or purpose, the messaging lands and you might come across that across it, looking for
business advice, how to wholesale houses or how to play a video game.
So then we look at the 2024 election.
We see the impact voting for Trump wasn't just about a specific policy choice.
It was a cultural statement to a degree.
And for many young men, supporting Trump was a way of rejecting what they saw as the mainstream
narrative that they feel ignores or dismisses
them. It's that simple. And because so many of these spaces that they spend time in are coded
with the right wing narratives, we shouldn't be shocked that 56% of young men ended up voting for
Donald Trump. So the takeaway here is it's not that 56% of young male voters woke up as Trump supporters
last Tuesday morning.
It's been years of being exposed to this subtle messaging in spaces that the progressive voices
really are not reaching.
And so if the left wants to win back these voters, and I think that the left probably
has to win back the voters if they want to that the left probably has to win back the voters if
they want to win. It is going to require some reevaluation of how we are talking to young men,
how we're talking about masculinity. And there has to be a focus on understanding what are their
frustrations, even if their frustrations are not based in fact, even if their frustrations are a
result of lies that they have been sold by right wing influencers, it doesn't matter.
It's sort of like it doesn't matter if the economy is good.
If people don't believe that it's good, as we learn, just showing them, hey, listen, inflation is down, gas prices are down.
It doesn't actually matter if that's what people believe.
Constructive solutions, a presentation on the issue that will relate to what their concerns actually are.
So I think the young male vote, uh, going 56% to Trump is not something that should
be ignored, especially as you know, roughly 50, 50 of young voters, but in particular
more than 50% of the young men, these will be at least theoretically individuals with
increased, uh, financial and cultural power as time goes.
Hey, this is a, this is sort of interesting.
Scottish politician, Patrick Harvey sort of went after Scotland's first minister, John
Swinney.
Swinney just like issued a generic congratulations to Donald Trump.
Oh, Trump won.
Congratulations to the president elect.
And, uh, Patrick Harvey was just sort of like, wait a second. Congratulations to Donald Trump. Oh, Trump won. Congratulations to the president elect.
And Patrick Harvey was just sort of like, wait a second, like criminal what you're congratulating him. This was a very, very interesting clip from Scottish parliament. Yesterday, the first
minister offered congratulations to the convicted felon Donald Trump on his re-election. Yes.
Writing officially on behalf of the Scottish Government,
he wrote that he is sure Scotland's cultural and social ties with the US will flourish during the presidency of a misogynist, a climate denier, a fraudster, a conspiracy monger, a racist,
a far-right politician who tried to overturn an election result both
covertly and by inciting violence. Words fail me. What social and cultural ties does the First
Minister really think will benefit from a relationship with such a man? And more importantly,
what has the First Minister done so far to
reach out to the marginalised and vulnerable people whose lives are most directly threatened
by a second Trump term?
First Minister.
Presiding Officer, I have a duty as First Minister of Scotland to engage with other
governments and to represent the people.
So the argument he makes is we're going to have to deal with Trump. Why wouldn't I congratulate him?
In that process. And as part of that duty, I wrote the letter in question that Mr. Harvey
cites. And I think there are deep cultural, social and economic ties between Scotland and the
United States of America.
I think they're important.
They're important for employment in our economy.
They're important.
All right.
So he's essentially making the argument that, listen, we are connected economically.
We have to, we have to sort of play nice.
There is a, uh, we, we have to recall what things were like when Trump was president
the first time around.
And I know sometimes we just forget it And it's important not to forget it. When Trump was
president the first time around, you may have forgotten the U S was increasingly excluded
from serious conversations that our global allies were participating in. When Trump said,
you know, climate change, it's a scam from China or whatever. And the U S is out of the Paris
climate agreement. Increasingly on questions of climate, our Western liberal allies just didn't
include the United States. Now you might say, well, I'm glad screw them. I didn't like the
Paris climate agreement. It's about economics. So much of what is going to be the green revolution.
And you know what?
If you love oil, you can stick it out for a while longer. There's no question.
But ultimately, this transition is happening to green energy. I mean, sooner or later,
it's going to happen economically. If we are the one Western liberal democracy that is looked at
and said that the guy in the White House doesn't even acknowledge this is happening. They don't want anything to do with this. Not only will we lose out on the climate
mitigation, which maybe some of our MAGA friends don't care about, we will also look out what
lose out rather on the economic benefits that this transition is going to bring.
And those benefits are significant. So we I am as curious as anybody else to see,
do we see more of this? Why are we even talking to this Trump administration? It's a joke on every
issue. I genuinely, you know, as, as I said on Wednesday, I'm not going out and saying it was
fraud and let's do a riot because I'm not like them.
That's what they did when they lost.
We lost.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm not kidding when I say I want the country to do well.
I want the country to do well so that it benefits the people.
You know, we've had some some big ups in the stock market over the last few days and a
lot of people are saying, oh, it's because of Trump.
I think more than likely it's because of the reduced uncertainty.
And I know statistically that the stock market does better under democratic presidents than
Republican presidents.
But I hope the stock market does bolster the retirement accounts of people while Trump
is president.
I hope unemployment, I hope all those things.
I hope unemployment's low and inflation remains low, et cetera. But we also have to remember that having Trump in the oval office has global consequences.
And this little speech here, the, this exchange from Scottish parliament reminds us, not everybody
is necessarily going to say, we love the idea of dealing with another Trump administration. We all have seen that Donald Trump's public speeches
have been full of bravado for his entire campaign, endless promises, attacks, distortions, lies,
but soon it's going to be time to govern. And behind closed doors, it is a completely
different story. Trump's own allies, including in red States, red state governors and others in red
States are panicked about Donald Trump's coming term. Now you might be saying, why, why would
they be panicked? They like Trump. Well, it turns out that running the country with total disregard
for what works economically is going to cause major problems. And Trump's economic ideas
might sound good. I
mean, listen, tariffs on China, I know enough about it to know it doesn't sound good, but maybe
to some people they say, oh, we're going to punish China. It's good. It's going to sound good.
These policies can wreak complete and total havoc. And we are already learning that many companies
are already setting up to raise prices to account for Donald Trump's forthcoming tariffs. But there is this rising sense of dread within some of the Trump supporting ranks and red
state governors because they are realizing, wow, Trump won.
We said stuff and then we won.
But now if Trump carries out many of these policy ideas, there are significant economic
risks, especially for governors in
their states.
We are talking about everything from economic policies that could hurt businesses like the
tariffs to tax cuts for the rich that are simply not going to help the economy, but
they will all blow up the deficit just like Trump did in that first term.
It'll be inflationary.
It will not be economically stimulative. And as I said last week, Trump's voters are going to get
what they voted for. Trump's tax strategy is of course designed to benefit his base,
but economists have evaluated it and they know that it will lead to budget shortfalls that even
red States aren't going to be able to ignore. And it makes sense. First, you say what you need to say to get yourself
elected, but the governors are people trying to run their States and a tanking state economy
is not going to be a good thing. It's sort of ironic, but now they are going to face the
instability that they always said it was Democrats creating, but they're going to face it as a result of Donald Trump winning and getting to do what he wants to do. Now there's
also the legal side because Trump's approach to law enforcement is going to make these tough on
crime law and order magas a little bit nervous. And I'm of course talking about Donald Trump's
promises to use loyalist figures to reshape the department of justice, which is
a move that according to a lot of insiders, it sounds good for campaigning, but it's making
them a little bit scared in terms of the accountability implications.
Once you set the precedent of a, I might go after this, that, or the other person, it
can be turned on anybody.
And at the state level, a lot of these Republicans are saying, do we really want that politics of revenge and vengeance that Trump is talking about
with law and order? Because when the political winds change, then it could come back on us.
Now, I know there are people who are hearing this and they're saying, well, they asked for it. Who
cares? Right. They wanted Trump in office. They wanted this aggressive authoritarian style.
Trump won. Now they're going to get it that
they suffer. Okay. Who cares? Fine. I I'm with you on the political, uh, consequences,
but there's going to be massive collateral damage here as well. And there are going to be a lot of
people at the state level that suffer. And I know it's almost cliche to say, as I said before, I,
I want, I would prefer the country do well. I think it would be a better thing.
And when Trump's economic policies, if they become a reality, which with Trump, it's always,
here's what I promised, but what am I really going to do?
We won't know until he's, he's actually in a position of power.
If Trump puts in place these policies and it starts hurting red States, okay, great.
If it hurts the Republican governor who supported Trump that I welcome, but the destruction
that it will wreak on people who did and didn't vote for Trump in those States, that's not
the type of thing that I can get super excited about.
So the question is now, where does it leave us here?
Who did not vote for Trump?
If even Trump's most dedicated allies are expressing doubts, there might be more fractures in Trump's administration
than it seems like on the surface. And if the allies start to step back or if they say,
I'm not propping up this particular policy, I voted Trump, I support Trump, but the tariff
policy, it's going to affect my state in this way. I don't like it. You could end up with a second
Trump term that could be even more disastrous
when it comes to the people that work for Trump, abandoning Trump. Then that first term, you might
recall that during Trump's first term, there were, there was significant attrition. And during that
time, the people who stayed with Trump would always say, there's always turnover. We're gearing
up for a second term, which they never got because
Biden won. So we're going to start having some turnover and changing people. The reality is that
there was massive abandonment of Trump from within his ranks due to incompetence that especially
without another Trump term to maybe stay buddy buddy with him for this time around could wreak complete and total
havoc.
And we will be watching it very, very closely.
We've got a great bonus show for you today.
Democrats, many did better down ballot than Harris, meaning there were people who went
to vote, did not vote.
Harris did vote for down ballot.
Democrats.
We're going to talk about what that means.
We will talk about
split ticket voters who voted for defending abortion rights on a ballot referendum and
voted Trump. How did that happen? What did they do? And finally, will Trump's hush money conviction
stand the 34 felony counts? A judge will decide. We know he's getting out of the federal cases. Thanks for having me.