The David Pakman Show - 11/6/24: Trump defeats Kamala, Republicans take Senate, a dark era begins
Episode Date: November 6, 2024-- On the Show: -- Donald Trump defeats Kamala Harris in the 2024 presidential election with Republicans also taking the Senate, and the House of Representatives still counting votes -- A review ...of the Presidential, Senate, and House results in the 2024 election -- Donald Trump delivers a confused and dangerous victory speech in the middle of the night -- The blame game has started as to why Kamala Harris lost, most of it misguided and incorrect -- An increasingly likely reality is taking shape where Elon Musk and Robert F. Kennedy Jr will play major roles in the forthcoming Trump administration -- A review of the good news and positive results from the 2024 election -- Unlike the way Republicans behaved in 2020, Democrats are accepting election results, not crying fraud, and not being violent -- There is now a very real possibility of a MAGA Supreme Court until 2050, thanks to the victory of Donald Trump over Kamala Harris -- Senator Marco Rubio says Trump should be allowed to do whatever he wants as he won a "mandate" in a "landslide" -- In the end, a candidate experiencing cognitive decline has won the presidential election after all -- Concern grows that the left will abandon politics at the absolute worst possible time -- On the Bonus Show: Producer Pat joins David for more discussion about the 2024 election results, the path forward, the future of politics, and more 🌱 Ounce of Hope: Get 20% off with code PAKMAN at https://ounceofhope.com 😺 Smalls cat food: Use code PAKMAN for 50% off & free shipping at https://smalls.com/pakman 💻 Get Private Internet Access for 83% OFF + 4 months free at https://www.piavpn.com/David 🥄 Use code PAKMAN for $5 off Magic Spoon at https://magicspoon.com/pakman 🥦 Lumen lets you master your metabolism. GET 15% OFF at https://lumen.me/pakman -- Become a Member: https://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/davidpakmanshow -- TDPS Subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/thedavidpakmanshow -- Pakman Discord: https://www.davidpakman.com/discord -- David on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave a Voicemail: (219)-2DAVIDP
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Well, welcome to the show, everybody. It was a very long night and I completely lost my voice. And now we just kidding. I wouldn't do the show. I wouldn't do the show if my voice were that bad. I am tired. My voice is strained. It was a long and sadly, uh, uh, not a positive night, but I am here.
Let me just say right up front, I know what so many of you are feeling.
I'm getting the messages from some of you that you're tuning out.
We are seeing the cancellations.
We are seeing the people on subscribing. Here is my plea to you.
Give me the next hour before you finalize that decision.
Let's see if we can get a shared understanding of what needs to happen.
Let's see if we agree as to what the next steps are.
Give me the hour.
There's plenty of time to tune away and never pay attention to politics
again. There's we have time for that. You can decide that in an hour or 45 minutes if you
listen at one point to five speed. And then let's make that decision. So let's start with the
obvious. No way to sugarcoat it. Very bad news. Failed former president Donald Trump is poised to become a failed
president once again. Donald Trump has defeated Kamala Harris. It has shocked the world that
there are tens of millions of Americans in this country willing to do it again. But it then, but it is and we have to accept what is as of this moment that I am recording today's
program.
Donald Trump has secured not only the electoral college, but has also seemingly won the popular
vote for the first time ever for him.
Of course, he lost the popular vote in 2016, lost the popular vote in 2020.
Just about everything that could have gone wrong for Kamala Harris did go wrong. Pennsylvania
gone to Trump, Georgia gone to Trump, a margin of victory in Florida for Trump.
That is more than four times bigger than his margin of victory in Florida in 2020.
The idea that maybe North Carolina could save Harris gone to Trump.
Wisconsin called for Trump.
Biden won it in 2020.
Michigan and Arizona, both states won by Biden in 2020.
Not yet called. But as of this moment, Trump leading by one point four in Michigan,
Trump leading by four point two in Arizona and then Nevada, a state won by Biden in 2020, falls to Trump, called for Donald Trump.
When did I first say to myself something might be going wrong here?
Well, everybody who was on my live stream yesterday knows when that moment was when we got at 7 p.m. Eastern. The first numbers from Indiana and
Kentucky states that, of course, Trump was going to win. And I saw that Trump's margin in Indiana
was way bigger than it was in 2020. And Trump's margin in Kentucky was way bigger than it was in
2020. That was the first moment that maybe things aren't going to go
well. Here's the moment that Fox news called it. There's a reason why I'm picking Fox news.
If we are going to dig out of this and we have to, because people's lives depend on it.
If we are going to say, what's the next step and put one foot in front of the other when we're
ready. Okay. I'm going to get to that. I'm going to get to that when we're ready. Uh, we need to all
experience together the dreadful feeling that is associated with what I am about to play
for you. Here is the call from Fox news. The Fox news decision desk can now officially
project that Donald Trump will become the 47th president of
the United States. The former president's comeback will be complete with a win in Wisconsin, a state
that he narrowly lost four years ago. He is now the second president in U.S. history to win
non-consecutive terms. The first was Grover Cleveland in the late 1800s.
My boy Grover.
Senator J.D. Vance will become the 50th vice president of the United States. Voters express
deep frustration with the Biden administration and former President Trump and the future President
Trump overperformed in urban areas, particularly with men, proving that the strategy that they
doubled and tripled down on over the course of the last few months absolutely succeeded
and brought him back to the White House.
We need to be extremely honest with each other and with ourselves.
A little bit later in the program, I'm going to start going through some of the explanations
that people associated with the Harris campaign and Democrats at large are giving for what
took place here.
Explanations that are wrong.
We really need to be honest about what happened.
A lot of the United States of America likes what Trump is selling.
It's not that they were confused.
Some of them were.
I will get to that.
But they like what Trump is selling.
They love transphobia, despite it being statistically a nonissue.
Men in women's sports, as Trump describes it, is resonating with much of America. The idea of a mass deportation of disproportionately brown
people that they've been convinced have or will will wrong them at some point in the future.
Trump ran on it and a lot of America liked it because this is not just an electoral college win. It is as of this moment, a popular vote win as well.
There is a preference overall right now among Americans. There is a preference
for a convicted felon billionaire wannabe fascist over a black woman with a completely uncontroversial sort of center left economic message and policy.
Trump won the popular vote.
He might pardon himself federally and get away with it.
And we have to acknowledge that this is where we are because you can't fix the problem unless
you have identified it.
Donald Trump ran one of the worst campaigns you can't fix the problem unless you have identified it. Donald Trump ran one of the
worst campaigns you can imagine. He was barely conscious at some of his events. We covered his
events on Monday night. Well, I do know we've, we've got to do it because, uh, they're, they're
taking over. They're just, they're taking over. They're, they're coming from prisons. They're just, they're taking over. They're coming from prisons. They're coming. It made no sense.
None of it made any sense.
And he won the electoral vote and he won the popular vote and they're getting the Senate.
We'll talk about that.
And the house is still up in the air.
He had a Nazi style hate rally at Madison square garden a week and a half ago.
So it's all bad in that sense. Arguably the worst president in
history. When he was voted out, he tried to stage a coup. He took national secrets and stored some
of them in his bathroom. And we now are going to face what some other countries have faced before. And if there's
any reason for optimism, it's that other countries in their history have faced this. We haven't,
but other countries have a government that falls into the hands of an unrestricted, unfettered,
authoritarian madman with his right wing henchmen and henchwomen who are obsessed with dismantling
our institutions, ignoring the rule of law, saying F you to our global alliances and totally
abandoning constitutional norms.
Other countries have survived it.
And I believe the United States will also survive if we stay engaged.
And from some of the early data we are getting internally from our show, it seems that there
are people here who are not going to stay engaged. And I will have a message for you very, very soon.
There is the possibility here of a Republican government, at least the Senate, if not both house and Senate
Trump as president. And this means that in terms of appointments, when it comes to Trump's ideas
on economics and tariffs, Trump's ideas on mass deportation camps, Trump's ideas on get the
environmental regulations the hell out of here. He could have something approximating
carte blanche to start doing whatever he wants. Cenk Uygur in the middle of the night said there
will be anarchy and there will be chaos. And what he means is caused by the incoming Trump
administration. That is all absolutely true. But it will be way worse. It will be way worse
if we get out of their way and we let them do it. So I'm literally rolling up my sleeves just
because it's more comfortable with the particular sweater that I'm wearing. But metaphorically,
we have to roll up our sleeves. Let's take a deeper dive into the results. And then we are
going to talk about what happens next. As I've said, give me this hour to lay it results. And then we are going to talk about what happens next. As I've
said, give me this hour to lay it out. And then you decide I'm in or I'm out and we will talk
about it. All right. Let's now dig in to some more specific results from yesterday. Presidency,
Senate and House. Let's go through them one by one.
As I've already told you, when it comes to the presidency, not every state has yet been
called, but a very powerful victory for Donald Trump.
I'm looking for the numbers here.
Uh, these are, these are no good.
Let me get my better numbers.
Here we go. As of this moment, Donald Trump leading the popular vote by 4.5 million votes.
Trump flipped Pennsylvania for himself.
Trump flipped Georgia.
Trump flipped Nevada and Wisconsin.
And by the time the votes are counted, he may have flipped Arizona and he may have flipped
Michigan.
This is being called a landslide mandate by some Republicans.
Later we'll see if we believe that that is the case over in the Senate.
It is indeed the case that Republicans are taking control of the Senate.
There are still some races outstanding, but with gains in West Virginia,
where Jim justice, a Republican has won the seat previously held by Joe Manchin in Ohio,
where Bernie Moreno has defeated incumbent Sherrod Brown. Uh, we are seeing gains here,
gains here, uh, Deb Fisher defeating Dan Osborne in Nebraska. Republicans
are taking control of the Senate. Now they will not have a 60 vote majority. We are still waiting
on results from, uh, Maine, Pennsylvania, where Dave McCormick may be poised to defeat Bob Casey and steal another seat from Democrats
in Michigan.
We are waiting on a final result in Wisconsin.
We are waiting for a final result, but it looks like hopefully Tammy Baldwin will be
able to hold that seat in Arizona.
If you say, David, what's the good news from yesterday?
I'll do a segment on good news later.
One of the best pieces of news from yesterday is that Carrie Lake has been made a two time
loser.
She is being sent home with another loss.
Our friend, former guest on the show, Ruben Gallego, has been elected the next senator
representing Arizona.
He's a very good guy and I like to see that.
And then in Nevada, it seems as though it has not been called.
Jackie Rosen, the incumbent Democrat may lose.
So worst case scenario here, uh, it does look like Angus King will win in Maine, but it
just hasn't been called.
If Dave McCormick wins Pennsylvania and if, uh, let's assume Baldwin holds and, uh, S
Jackie Rosen loses Nevada, that will mean that Republicans will have
54 Senate seats and Democrats, including the independent caucusing, Angus King and Bernie
Sanders, uh, will have 46 that will bolster Trump's ability to get things done.
We have to be honest.
And finally, let's now go to the house in the house. 218 seats are
required to take control of the house right now. Neither party has it. What is the case is that
Republicans currently have one 97, whereas Democrats have only one 77 Republicans need
21 more seats to take control. whereas Republicans need 41 more seats.
We will go through specific races once they are clear.
But the hope right now, if you are a Democrat, the hope is we at least see Democrats hold the house, which will be a check, particularly, particularly when it
comes to anything that involves spending.
It will be a check on Trump's white house and a Republican Senate.
That's where we are potentially more complete results tomorrow.
All right.
This is tough to watch.
I'm going to play some clips for you of Donald Trump's confused and terrifying
victory speech from the middle of the night. I know that this is tough to watch, but we have to
do it because we have to harness the feeling of seeing this into action. And whether we say I'm
going to take a pause and resume after the inauguration, that's fine. But this is what we are now up against.
Here is Donald Trump. It's vomitous. I'm going to warn you, it is vomitous. Here is Donald
Trump being welcomed to his victory party at Mar-a-Lago.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome President-elect Donald J. Trump, First Lady Melania Trump, and the Trump family,
accompanied by Vice President-elect J.D. Vance, Second Lady Usha Vance, along with friends and campaign staff.
And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know my dream. All right.
I'm not going to play the whole song, but I am going to play a few of the things that
Donald Trump said.
Trump in his confused and disoriented manner, the guy with cognitive decline, one, the guy
with cognitive decline, one, we'll get to that later.
Donald Trump saying he's going to do stuff.
He's a little confused in how he's saying it, but he's saying he's going to do stuff
and we love the family and we're going to have a great four years and we're going to
turn our country around, make it something very special.
Lost that little thing called special. We have to make it so. We're going to make this so great. We lost that little thing called special.
It's the greatest country and potentially the greatest country in the world by far.
And right now we're going to just work very hard to get all of that back.
There you go.
Not exactly clear what he's going to do, but there are things he is going to do.
And absolutely terrifying.
This is exactly what was at stake.
We talked about the stakes.
Trump saying that he will bring in Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to make America healthy again.
This is endlessly horrifying.
We can add a few names like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Make America healthy again. Ay, ay, ay.
Bobby! Bobby! Bobby!
And now he's a great guy, and he really means it.
He wants to do some things, and we're going to let him go to it.
I just said, but, Bobby, leave the oil to me. We have more liquid gold oil and gas. We have more liquid gold than any country in the world, more than Saudi Arabia. We have
more than Russia. Bobby, stay away from the liquid gold other than that.
So essentially saying, Bobby, kill the vaccines, kill the CDC, kill the FDA, but let us keep drilling
for oil.
Trump with the delusional reset for this forthcoming term where he says, just like he used to keep
all of his promises, he's going to keep keeping them.
There's no job like this.
This is the most important job in the world.
Just as I did in my first term, we had a great
first time, a great, great first time.
I will govern by a simple motto.
Promises made, promises kept.
We're going to keep our promise.
And of course, as you all remember, Trump's promises all failing, replacing Obamacare
with something better, failed building a wall that
Mexico will pay for, failed ending the Israeli Palestinian conflict in one term, failed paying
off the entire national debt in one term, failed.
I could go on.
It was all failure and we must expect that there will be more Donald Trump seemingly
recognizing at his, uh, victory speech that the J.D. Vance selection was maybe not
so good at the beginning, but all's well that ends well, says Donald Trump. Donald Trump's leadership.
Thank you very much. He's he's turned out to be a good choice.
I took a little heat at the beginning, but he was I knew I knew the brain was a good
one about as good as it gets.
And finally and horrifyingly, we are heading rapidly towards an administration that will involve not only Robert F. Kennedy,
Jr., but also Elon Musk.
Trump making that clear as well.
Let me tell you, we have a new star.
A star is born.
Elon.
Now he is now he's an amazing guy.
We were sitting together tonight.
You know, he spent two weeks in Philadelphia
and different parts of Pennsylvania campaigning.
You know, he sent the rocket up two weeks ago.
And I saw that rocket.
I saw it coming down.
I saw it.
It was, when it left, it was beautiful, shiny white.
When it came down, it didn't look so pretty.
It was going 10,000 miles an hour and it was burning like hell.
I said, what happened to your paint job?
He said, we've never made a paint that could withstand that kind of heat.
And okay, I can't even play the whole thing.
We have to contend with a Trump administration that involves RFK Jr. Elon Musk, as well as other
dignitaries. And I use that term completely sarcastically. So I hope that you'll give me
the hour today to lay it all out. Step one, which we've just done is what are the results?
What happened? What's happening next? The next step
is going to be to try to gain some understanding about what happened. The third step will be to
start talking about what happens next. I know people are unsubscribing and canceling from all
of our shows. I'm hearing from Brian Tyler Cohen, Jesse Dollimore, Farron Cousins, everybody is getting hit right now.
And I worry that it's happening for the wrong reason.
So stick with me here.
This is a crisis, but one that I believe we can deal with together.
Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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There are starting to be lists of explanations circulated as to why Kamala Harris lost the
presidential election and all of the things that she did wrong.
The blame game has started.
And one of the most important things I think has to happen, uh, is that if you are going
to solve a problem, it must be diagnosed correctly.
It must be diagnosed correctly.
If you have a cut on a finger and it's diagnosed as a headache rather than a cut
and you take headache medication for the cut on your finger, the cut on your finger isn't going
to get any better. You need a bandaid, maybe a little antibiotic cream. And so we have to start
from a place where we say what happened here and what didn't happen. One of the claims that is now
being floated about is that Tim walls was the wrong running
mate for Kamala Harris and that if Josh Shapiro had been selected, he would have carried the
blue wall States.
Uh, Harris would have won Pennsylvania and uh, she would have won Michigan and she would
have won Wisconsin and so on and so forth.
We have absolutely no evidence of that whatsoever. And in fact, there are real reasons to wonder whether choosing a Jewish running mate in
Josh Shapiro combined with Kamala Harris being a woman and half black and half Indian.
I don't know that that would have been any better.
In fact, maybe it would have been better in some parts, but it would have been worse in
others.
And to assume that the reason Kamala Harris lost is because she selected Tim walls when
Tim walls favorability was off the charts and JD Vance's favorability was in the toilet
does not seem like the right blame game to play.
Secondly is the claim that Kamala Harris didn't explain or stake out her positions
clearly enough.
Well, maybe there is something to people didn't necessarily know what her positions were on
certain issues.
But I would argue to a great degree that's because it wasn't really a referendum on that.
This was a referendum on, to some degree, that's because it wasn't really a referendum on that. This was a referendum on to some degree identity.
Do I want the wannabe dictator convicted felon white dude or do I want the black woman?
And unfortunately in this country, a lot of people didn't want the black woman who as
usual had to fend off allegations of Marxism and communism and socialism.
Should she as a general principle have focused more on policy?
I as an individual say yes.
I don't know that at the national level that is what would have made a difference.
Third, the focus on Trump's a fascist failed Kamala Harris.
People want to look forward.
Harris talking about a fascist Trump was looking backwards.
I don't know that I buy that talking about fascist Trump is looking backwards because Trump is saying he wants to be the future and talking about whether you want the future
to be a fascist future or not seems completely
relevant.
The problem is that there is far more of an association with communist socialist Marxist,
which were the labels thrown at Kamala Harris.
That's way more effective than saying, oh, Trump's a fascist or he wants to be a fascist,
et cetera.
So I struggle to believe that that's the explanation.
There is the claim that too many cooks in the kitchen in Harris's campaign muddled the
campaign messaging where it was joy, but it's also Trump's a fascist, but it's here's my
economic policy and it's, we're going forward, not back. I don't think that that
is unique to this campaign, but it is true that Trump essentially ran on everything's terrible
and I'm going to fix it. Even if that's not true, uh, I'm going to deport a ton of people
and a lot of this country like that. Uh, men and women's sports are a real
problem and there are contingents in critical States that that resonated with, even if it's
not showing up anywhere as a major issue overall. Uh, and that certainly may be a factor. And
finally, another element of blame that's being put forward is that Kamala Harris's
team focused too much on setting up for a legal battle, assuming it would be way closer
than it was.
Trump ended up blowing her out in Florida, uh, the Pennsylvania, Arizona.
You know, we look at all these, not Arizona yet, Nevada.
A lot of these were nowhere near as close as they were in the past and therefore all
of the effort going into preparing for the legal battle was for nothing.
It should have gone into campaigning.
That may be true, although that is one of those hindsight is sort of 2020 situations.
I don't think a single one of the, uh, blames that I just, uh, outlined for you really explains what made sense here. Uh, what
took place, it makes sense of what took place here. To me, what happened is actually far simpler
and it's going to come off as far more offensive than these explanations, but I think it is far
more accurate. Number one, millions of Americans quite literally
have no idea what's going on. And I know that it's sort of like, Oh, David, are you doing the
Republicans are stupid thing again? Listen, there's plenty of uninformed Democrats. There's
uninformed independence, but there is a degree to which millions of these Trump voters have
literally no idea what's going on. At a recent rally, a bunch of young white men, Trump voters were asked, why are you
voted for voting for Trump?
And they said, because gas prices are so high.
The truth is that gas prices are at their lowest post pandemic point, tied with a bunch
of post pandemic lows. That is just the truth.
So saying I'm voting for Trump because of high gas prices, when gas prices are low,
you are simply clueless and Trump benefits from the clueless vote. Same thing with inflation. Oh,
inflation's so high. Inflation has come down dramatically under Joe Biden. And in fact,
it's come down faster than in other Western developed nations. Um, uh, so, so that's one thing that a lot of people are just completely clueless
about what's going on. Number two, Trump made a play on men with a particular perspective on
masculinity. Now, as many of, you know, we did a piece on it. Many of you also know I've been recommending that you check out some of Scott Galloway's
recent sort of monologues and discussions of masculinity, of a more logical approach
to masculinity.
Trump made the play for men.
He won men and he is deliberately and overtly trying to appeal to a certain type of man going on the
Rogan show, going on the milk boys, the NELC boys, whatever they call themselves, uh, bringing in
RFK, who I believe is, is known that he's a steroid guy. I think is, I thought it was known
anyway, um, sort of bolstering this idea, um, of the roid raging type aggressive man and saying, welcome and come on in and
you can be more like that if you vote for me.
That worked.
And as great as Tim Walz is, he can fix cars and trucks and he hunts and he knows football.
It was not enough to counteract what was an appealing message to white men from Donald
Trump.
And then third, and here's it,
it hurts to say it. Millions of people liked what Trump was genuinely offering.
Trump was genuinely offering the opportunity of a feeble, cognitively declining wannabe dictator,
authoritarian who would, uh, who promised mass deportations.
They preferred that over the black woman Democrat period, period, full stop. They preferred it.
This isn't a narrow electoral win. Trump won the popular vote as of right now.
So the blame game is useful. If you're accurately diagnosing the problem.
I don't believe it's accurately being diagnosed based on what I just told you. As far as the
talking points, I think my three talking points more accurately reflect what's happening. Now,
I want to hear from you on this because if we're going to move forward, we need to understand what
happened. Not everybody may be ready for that, but when we are, we have to discuss it.
All right.
Later, I'm going to talk a little bit about the future of the Supreme Court and if there
is any reason not to disengage right now, it's the future of the Supreme Court.
But I want to revisit something we touched on at the top of the show.
We are going to see a very different second Trump administration than the first Trump
administration.
At the beginning of the first Trump administration, Trump at least paid lip service to, I'm going
to bring in people who even if we on the left disagree with them and find them to be deplorable
characters, they at least are people who understand sort of like how diplomacy and administrations
work and are going to function somewhat normally.
Even if we disagree with their policy positions, I'm talking about, you know, Rex Tillerson, Rex Tillerson was not the worst secretary of state in the world.
He recognized where Trump had no idea what was going on. He at least had a true business
background of administration and management and not the guy would have chosen disagreed with the
politics, disagree with him on fossil fuels. But Rex Tillerson was at least like, okay,
he's at least sane to some degree.
We are about to see the Bobby Kennedy Jr. Elon Musk style cabinet under Donald Trump.
I'm going to replay a couple of clips from earlier just to reset this. Here is Trump
telling us Bobby Kennedy Jr. will be a part of all this. We can add a few names like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. And he's going to help make America healthy again.
All right. So I played that earlier. But just a reminder, it's not just Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
It's also Elon Musk that Trump is now welcoming with open arms.
Let me tell you, we have a new star.
A star is born.
He's on.
Now he is.
Now he's an amazing guy.
We were sitting together tonight.
You know, he spent two weeks in Philadelphia and different parts of Pennsylvania campaigning.
You know, he sent the rocket up two weeks ago.
Okay. Yeah. He sent the rocket. So we have to now contend with what does happen to the FDA
if Robert F. Kennedy Jr. oversees it? What happens to the CDC if Robert F. Kennedy Jr. oversees it. Does RFK want to ban vaccines?
He says no.
He says no.
Elon Musk wants to come in and do efficiency.
He wants to deal with government efficiency.
What does that look like and what does that mean?
There are rumors of the Trump friendly judge from his own trial, Eileen cannon as maybe attorney general.
There was an insane rumor of Trump's kooky lawyer, Alina Habba as possible attorney general.
He is going to try to do all of it and this doesn't even yet touch the Supreme court,
which we are going to be talking about later.
So one thing we have to push and hope for is that the house of representatives is not
lost.
That's a critical thing we have to regroup, but they, an unfettered Trump, he's not going
to mess around with Rex Tillerson.
The people he picks are going to be out of their gourds.
And this is another aspect of what we have to be ready for.
All right, let's look at some of the good news from election night.
It wasn't all bad.
It wasn't all bad.
You have to look sort of deeply, but there are things here that we can look at and say,
Hey, that's pretty good.
First and foremost, uh, our friend Ruben Gallego did defeat did defeat Carrie Lake.
This is good not only because Ruben Gallego is super smart and a great person.
He's been a guest on the show, was a great congressman, and now he gets to be senator.
But the idea that we are now really sending Carrie Lake into the dustbin of history where she belongs, as the sanctimonious would say, Carrie Lake lost the governor's race two years ago.
She's now lost her Senate race.
I never want to hear from Carrie Lake again.
I suspect we will.
But it is over for Carrie Lake.
Also, good news. Remember that whack job Royce white that I interviewed not long ago who said, Hey, what's
wrong with spending campaign funds at a strip club as long as you spend it on the food and
not the strippers.
That guy has fortunately lost.
Now shockingly, he did manage to secure nearly 39% of the vote in his Minnesota Senate race, but not enough to defeat Amy Klobuchar,
who with 58% of the vote vote has secured reelection in North Carolina.
That disgusting Republican Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson, who was caught admitting on
online forums to peeping in girls showers, who was caught online saying that he's a black
Nazi who was caught online saying that he's a black Nazi who was caught online saying that he
doesn't really think slavery coming back would be so bad.
He seems to think that he would be owning slaves, which is interesting because that's
not the way it worked historically in the United States.
Mark Robinson is a black man, one of the most unhinged right wing lunatics he has lost.
Josh Stein, the Democrat, has defeated Mark Robinson to become
North Carolina governor. That is very good news. Not surprising, but nice to see Senator Bernie
Sanders easily winning reelection in Vermont by roughly a two to one margin with 63 percent of
the vote over challenger Gerald Malloy and a ton of ballot initiatives. And one of the things that we see happening quite a bit is that a lot of states did have
constitutional rights to abortion pass.
Arizona passed a constitutional right to abortion.
Colorado passed a provisional one.
Maryland passed one.
Missouri passed one. Montana, Nebraska, Nevada,
New York, blue and red States alike past, uh, constitutional state constitutional protections
for reproductive services, abortion and family planning.
And that's a really good thing.
I'm not here to tell you this is the best election ever.
There are disasters here.
There are disasters here.
But there are also wrinkles of positivity, which we are going to be focusing on and building
on.
So let's take a break.
I am going to tell you what is happening with left wing media over the last 12 to 14 hours.
It's not good.
OK, let's take a quick break and be right back.. the David Pakman show at David Pakman dot com slash David.
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I want to call attention to the obvious expected reality the day after the presidential election.
We on the left accept the results that Donald Trump won.
Hey, MAGA, see how it's done. Trump won this election.
I can admit that I have been saying for months, the difference is going to be if Kamala Harris
loses barring actual evidence to the country, we are going to come in and we are going to say,
I wish it were different. I didn't vote for the guy, but Trump won. I believe that Trump back in
office is a huge mistake. The consequences are potentially disastrous, but Kamala Harris lost. It would be wrong to do anything to try to force
her into office, even though she lost the way that Trump and his followers tried to do when
Trump lost in 2020. This is a critical difference between left and right. We were joking. We're going to find out on election day. Does Trump win
or was it rigged? And of course, Trump and his followers spent years spreading conspiracy
theories about rigged elections and fraud and stolen votes and all of that. And here we are.
We accept that Trump won because that's how democracy works. It's exactly what he and his supporters refused to do when he lost in 2020 for four years.
Trump and MAGA have worked to delegitimize elections, insisting they won in 2020.
Trump arguing that he should be president anyway when he lost in 2020. And now the American people
have had their say. Tens of millions of Americans want the wannabe dictator. That's the reality.
And we're not going out and rioting in the streets. We're not storming government buildings.
We're not sending angry mobs to harass election officials or coming up with slates of fake
electors.
We are disappointed, but we can be vocal and disappointed and respect the process.
And Maga didn't do it in 2020.
Now there is another side to this. There is another side to this. I'm already
getting the threats. I have people writing to me saying, David, you've got to get it.
You should leave the country because now you are the target and everybody that does what
you do are going to be the target. Uh, I can only hope that Donald Trump's win doesn't embolden their side to try to come and do
whatever it is that some of my viewers are worried they might try to do.
And similarly, just because we accept the results doesn't mean we're okay with everything that comes next.
Marco Rubio, you'll see later in the show is now arguing Trump has a mandate to do whatever the
hell he wants because of a landslide victory. He is going to have, I mean, listen, he can do
executive orders, but just because we accept the results because that's what we do in a democratic country doesn't mean
we say have at it, Haas, do whatever the hell you want to do.
Democracy means we accept the wins.
We accept the losses.
The stakes are very high.
So they won this one.
I think a lot of them have no clue what they voted for.
Many of them have ethical
and moral compasses that are completely broken or backwards. They may regret it, but they
voted and we have to stand by that. We're not going to the Capitol on January 6th to
riot. We're not demanding that they check whether sandwiches were brought in that don't
correlate to the number of votes or whether bamboo fibers from China suggests that the ballots were flown in from overseas. We're not doing any
of that. On the other hand, Donald Trump has still not accepted the 2016 popular vote results. Still,
it's been eight years. He has still not accepted any of the 2020 results, there are differences here. And as I get into the next topic,
which is going to be a difficult one, I think it's critical to remember that there is a difference
and we do have the moral high ground here. Now, with that being said,
I have to have a difficult conversation with you. I'm going to tell you something that is terrifying me.
I always try to come here and put a positive face on everything, but there is something
going on that is terrifying me.
When I woke up this morning, we had lost 5000 YouTube subscribers compared to where we were
last night.
Now, the first thing I thought was,
is this a glitch? We've been on YouTube for 15 years or something like that. And
subscribers always just go up. They they they just never go down. They go up.
Is something wrong with my channel? Is someone attacking my channel? What's going on? So I started texting and I texted
Brian Tyler Cohen and I texted Tyler Cohen and Brian Cohen and Brian Tyler, all of them. I texted
all of them. I texted Jesse Dollimore. I texted Luke Beasley and Farron Cousins and Sam Cedar.
And every single one of our channels since last night is hemorrhaging
subscribers.
What is it that is going on?
Here is a graphic.
As you can see, subscribers just go up, up, up, up and they are down.
It is not just YouTube subscribers.
We are seeing record cancellations of paid memberships, record cancellations.
These are the people that keep the show running. Now, for a moment, I thought if it's just YouTube,
maybe YouTube is purging people who are inactive subscribers. And once a year,
usually YouTube does this and you see a little decline
and then numbers go back up. They're not doing it. They're not doing it. And if that were the
case, we wouldn't be seeing paid membership cancellations on the website. So now I understand
what is going on. It's terrifying, but it is happening. Um, a lot of people are checking out.
I heard anecdotally from a couple dozen people who
said, you know, David, I just can't do it anymore. I just can't do it. I'm checking out. I'm out.
And the reason that this is terrifying, not only because it puts everybody in left wing
media's livelihoods at stake and at risk, It terrifies me because our instinct is the opposite of what the right does and we will
get crushed if this is the way we respond to a defeat.
The right wants us not to exist.
The right wants to decimate independent progressive media.
And so when I lose 5000 subscribers and Brian loses thousands and Ring of Fire loses thousands
and everybody's losing thousands of subscribers, understand that when the right loses, they
get organized, they fund and they create insanely effective organizations like Turning Point USA, investing in the Daily
Wire and building out this huge network of right wing idea ideas and influencers.
So if you're feeling burnt out, I encourage you take a break until the inauguration.
It's months.
OK, mental health break.
Do it.
But when we start canceling the subscriptions, we are in an algorithmic desubscription spiral
right now because when people start unsubscribing on YouTube, YouTube thinks, oh, we probably
shouldn't recommend this content because it's generating a lot of unsubscribes.
So then the content doesn't get recommended and then the message doesn't get out and then
next election they win by even more.
So I do understand the instinct, but if we seed ground to them, they crush us everywhere.
Now we're up against a MAGA Supreme Court potentially till
2050. We'll talk about that later. We're up against a completely uninhibited Trump. I actually have
an entire chapter in my forthcoming book, The Echo Machine, about exactly this. It's actually
it's not it's the introduction in the introduction. I explain how it's disgusting to me. It's disgusting to me that when you engage in politics, you can't just find solutions.
First, you've got to convince people climate change is even happening.
You can't just find solutions because half the country doesn't even accept the science
of vaccines.
I outline this in the introduction, but I also make the point in the book that if you actually care about the world for ourselves,
children, grandchildren, other people, families, friends, people we care about when you disengage
because they've gotten so extreme, you seed ground to them and you say, do whatever you
want.
I'm disengaging.
Do whatever you want.
And we really can't do that.
Okay.
So my request to you today is please resubscribe to the YouTube channel.
Don't watch the clips for months if they don't, if they're not doing anything for you.
Okay.
But all of a sudden in, in 12, 14 hours, the entire progressive media ecosystem is under
a threat I have never seen before.
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and then we'll take a break and get to some other things. There has never been a movement that succeeded when they exited activism after a loss.
No movement has succeeded when they take a loss and they go, I'm out.
Never happened.
And on the other hand, if you look at the advances and victories of the progressive
era, the advances and victories of the new deal era, the advances and victories of the civil rights era.
They've all come after setbacks. They've all come after setbacks. So that's my plea.
We are very worried. I would love to sugarcoat it, but we have never seen numbers like this ever. Numbers this bad. Consider it. Do what you feel is right.
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the day is landslide and also mandate. I heard Jason Miller, Trump advisor saying Trump won
in a landslide. He has a huge mandate. Marco Rubio, the Republican Senator who, uh, was
a much, uh, ridiculed by Trump previously,
but of course he fell in line and ultimately kissed the ring.
Um, Marco Rubio was on CNN this morning and he was asked, Hey, do you think this is a
Senate that would even confirm Robert F Kennedy Jr to anything?
And Marco Rubio says, listen, it was a stunning victory, overwhelming landslide mandate, et
cetera.
This is critical in terms of understanding how they
are going to view any checks and balances on Trump over the next at least two, if not four years.
If you are part of the Senate, you'll have a say, of course, in confirming Donald Trump's
nominees. He's obviously campaigned with Elon Musk extensively. And Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has recently expressed interest in
a cabinet level post. Do you think the Senate would confirm him to a cabinet level post?
Well, I think the Senate's going to give great deference to a president that just won a stunning,
what I think is an electoral college landslide when all is said and done, and a mandate. And
he's being given a mandate to govern. And I think presidents who are given a mandate to govern deserve from the Senate the opportunity
to surround themselves with people that are going to help them execute their policies.
We have to understand the job of anybody that President-elect Trump puts in place. The job
of those people is not to be a check on Donald Trump or to control him. It is to help carry out
what the American people have sent them there to do and sent them there to do in a pretty overwhelming fashion by modern standards.
So I do think that that's important. Obviously, I have to be qualified and all these sorts of
things. But beyond that, these are we have to ensure that he has a team around him that helps
him execute his public policy, not undermine it or stand in the way of it. That's the same thing
Joe Biden and every president we've ever had has wanted to be surrounded by his, you know,
people that are going to do a good job.
But ultimately, so listen, you know, Marco Rubio does this.
Well, of course, you've got to be qualified.
He throws that in there.
But there will be great deference given to a president who won with such a landslide
and has generated such a mandate.
Let me clarify.
Let me interpret this for you in clearer lay person terms.
Is Trump going to be completely out of control and expect to get everything he wants?
The answer from Marco Rubio is yes, he will.
He will be out of control and making it super clear.
Now what tools will Democrats have in the Senate? It's sort of it's still we
don't know yet, but it's looking like 54 is the number of senators that Republicans will ultimately
have with 54 votes in the Senate. There are certain things that will require 60 votes.
They'll need to get six Democrats on board. And if they're not able to do it well, then they're not
going to be able to get through what they want to get through.
And then in other areas, the filibuster is something that maybe would be used.
I'm not a big fan of the filibuster, but like I always say, you don't unilaterally disarm
and thus if there is a, uh, if the filibuster is still there, um, and there's a situation where you can
use it in order to prevent Trump and Republicans from doing something horrible, then you use
it.
But we need to, you know, I, I always am about where would I like to be, but we also have
to exist where we are and where we are is that with this potentially 312 electoral vote
victory for Donald Trump, we are potentially
in a situation where he is going to be completely disinhibited that the 54 potentially 54 Republican
senators are likewise going to be saying he gets whatever he wants.
He's the king of the party and we need to be ready with every single tool that we have
to prevent him from doing the worst of what he might want to do.
I want to talk a little bit about the age and cognitive sort of fallout of this election.
At the end of the day, the oldest major party presidential nominee with the very obvious
cognitive and linguistic decline, Donald Trump won.
Now I'm not going to rehash the reasons Trump won and the reasons
Harris lost, because we did that earlier. And that includes at the end of the day, tens of millions
of Americans just like what Trump was offering. And we talked about all about all that already.
But what I do want to point to is that I guess Biden wasn't really too old after all. Now, I don't mean if Biden had
stayed in, he would have won. What I mean is that the attacks on Biden's brain and the attacks on
Biden's age were not considered with the same seriousness by those voting for Donald Trump.
As I told you last week, a linguistic analysis found that while Joe Biden's communication
has declined over the last eight years, Trump's has declined significantly more.
And Harris, who's 20 years younger than Trump and Biden, has had no decline in her speech
patterns.
And yet we were told Biden simply simply too old and his brain's not working.
Trump who is clearly experiencing more of that exact same, uh, one and one by a larger
margin including the popular vote, something he failed to do in 2016 and 2020.
So it was never really about that.
And I think we have to come to grips with the fact that in the same vein, as I told
you, a lot of people just want the old white wannabe dictator man over the black woman
that that's the case for some people.
Similarly, they don't really want the energetic candidate.
They don't really want the younger candidate.
They don't really want the candidate whose brain is functioning and remembers who she's
running against and who was running in 2020 and who was running in 2016 and who's the
president right now.
They don't really care about a candidate that actually knows those things because they voted
for the guy who regularly forgets all of that stuff.
So it's just another reminder that Biden did something that's difficult to do.
People came to him. They said, we don't believe that you can win. He got out and supposedly it
was still going to be evaluated on the merits. Are you too old to run Trump? Is Trump's brain
working well enough to be president? The answer seems to be no,
but they don't actually care about that. And this is why they sometimes continue to win,
because they will use these weapons asymmetrically and not apply them to their own candidate. We knew that this is simply proof. All right. I want to close today with a message about the Supreme Court. If they're, you know, on a personal level,
it's humiliating that Elon Musk might be part of Donald Trump's administration. It's humiliating
on an individual and optics level. The idea that Bobby Kennedy Jr. will head up FDA and CDC
is pathetic and globally embarrassing for the United States. There is no doubt about it.
However, however. The real concern is the Supreme Court in terms of the long term
with Donald Trump's victory. It is likely that Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, two right wing
justices, realize they can retire and Trump will replace them with
right wingers.
This will make it so that Trump will have chosen 56% of the court.
If Trump gets these two more picks, that will be five ninths of the court selected by Trump.
Trump knows that he should pick younger justices.
Amy Coney Barrett is only 52 now.
Neil Gorsuch is 57.
Brett Kavanaugh's 59.
If Trump picks Supreme Court justices in their late 40s, early 50s, you are going to have
five Trump picks on the court, none older than I guess Kavanaugh would be 63 at the end of Trump's presidency.
This means that Trump is going to control the Supreme court decades. Trump will be dead and
he will still be in control of the Supreme court in the following term based on the 2028 election.
None of the Republicans, none of the right wing justices are rightly likely to retire in the term after that 33 to 37.
At the end of that, Kavanaugh would still only be 72 years old.
Thomas is currently 82.
The oldest of the current Trump picks could be around through the 2028, 2028 election,
2032, 2036, 2040.
He will be 75 in 2044. He'd be 79,
still younger than Clarence Thomas is right now. Trump will have long been in heaven or hell
and the court will be Maga. So my last plea to people thinking about tuning out to people thinking about saying, I'm out, I'm going to go do puzzles for the next 40 years or something. Maga Supreme
Court 2050 is what we need to be thinking about. Now, this is so urgent. That I would
almost say, oh, Biden has to pack the court
before he leaves. The problem is then Trump will just pack it again. And so I don't know what the
solution is, but I knew I know what the solution isn't. And it's saying bye bye to politics for
the next four years. We will be joined by producer Pat on the bonus show today. Oh, the bonus show
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