The David Pakman Show - 1/24/23: DeSantis Bans Black History, George Santos Lies Again and Again

Episode Date: January 24, 2023

-- On the Show: -- Republican Florida Governor Ron DeSantis defends banning an AP black history class over "queer" theory and "indoctrination" -- Former NFL coach Tony Dungy invokes Damar Hamlin in anti-abortion rant -- Dangerous "Doctor" Sherri Tenpenny is back, this time warning people that 5-10 people you know will soon die from the COVID vaccine, which is untrue -- Lying Republican Congressman George Santos is caught in another lie, as it turns out he regularly dressed in drag under the name "Kitara" -- Lying Republican Congressman George Santos claimed that he was under "police protection" for "attempted murder," surviving an assassination attempt -- Voters in lying Republican Congressman George Santos demand that he resign -- Failed former President Donald Trump mistakes his accuser, E. Jean Carroll, for one of his ex-wives, during a deposition -- Radical Republican Congresswoman Lauren Boebert's recent Christian nationalism statements are horrifying -- Failed former President Donald Trump now leads President Joe Biden in a new 2024 Presidential election poll from Emerson -- Fox News propagandist Tucker Carlson is very concerned about a floating space vagina above Turkey -- Voicemail caller jokingly criticizes David for not recommending Robert Kiyosaki's "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" series of books on personal finance -- On the Bonus Show: FDA wants to simplify use and updating of COVID vaccines, first AI-powered "robot" lawyer will represent defendant in court, M&M's puts spokescandies on pause after uproar, much more... 📺 Get Curiosity Stream for 25% OFF (code PAKMAN): https://curiositystream.thld.co/pakman_0123 💻 Get Private Internet Access for 83% OFF + 3 months free at https://www.piavpn.com/David 🧻 Reel Paper: Code PAKMAN for 30% OFF + free shipping at https://reelpaper.com/pakman 😁 Zippix Toothpicks: Code PAKMAN saves you 10% at https://zippixtoothpicks.com -- Become a Supporter: http://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/thedavidpakmanshow -- Subscribe to Pakman Live: https://www.youtube.com/pakmanlive -- Subscribe to Pakman Finance: https://www.youtube.com/pakmanfinance -- Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/davidpakmanshow -- Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave us a message at The David Pakman Show Voicemail Line (219)-2DAVIDP

Speaker 1 So the Florida Department of Education recently decided to ban AP African-American history. Now, AP is relevant here. That means advanced placement. These are not only elective courses, but they are above and beyond that courses that depending on whether you take the AP test can actually go towards college credit, optional, elective and a very small percentage of students take these courses. And the reason that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is now giving

for the reason that this class has been banned is completely and totally absurd. The department says that the class was teaching students activism, intersectionality, encouraging the war, encouraging ending the war on black, trans, queer and gender nonconforming and intersex people, that it's queer theory and that it is indoctrination. Now, again, this is not a mandatory class that's being pushed on anybody. It's an elective class that students can choose to take if this is subject matter they are interested in. And they are issues that should be determined from within the community, not by Ron DeSantis in terms of what is taught. DeSantis was asked about it during a press conference. And here is what he had to say.

Speaker 4 Speaker 5 The African-American studies course that was rejected by the state and a lot of criticism of that move. People saying, you know, this is exactly what we were fearing with the individual freedom bill. I don't know if you or the commissioner could maybe expand a little bit more about... Sure. I mean, I think, so, you know, as you know, in the state of Florida, our education standards not only don't prevent, but they require teaching black history, all the important things.

That's part of our core curriculum. This was a separate course on top of that for advanced placement credit, require teaching black history, all the important things. That's part of our core curriculum. This was a separate course on top of that for advanced placement credit. And the issue is we have guys. So he admits that that's interesting. We're going to get back to that. And standards in Florida, we want education, not indoctrination. If you fall on the side of indoctrination, we're going to decline. If it's education, then we will do this course. So when I heard it, we didn't meet the standards. I figured, yeah, they may be doing surgery. It's way more than that. This course on black history.

What are one of what's one of the lessons about queer theory? Now, who would say that an important part of black history is queer theory? That is somebody pushing an agenda on our kids. And so when you look to see they have stuff about intersectionality, abolishing prisons, that's a political agenda. And so we're on that's the wrong side of the line for Florida standards. We believe in teaching kids facts and how to think, but we don't believe they should have an agenda imposed on them. When you try to use black history to shoehorn in queer theory, you are clearly trying to use that for political purposes. So there's a couple of different things that are important to talk

about here. First of all, I don't know me, David Pakman. I don't know whether queer. First of all, I don't know whether queer theory is part all, I don't know whether queer theory is part of that course, but let's imagine that it is. I don't know whether it's correct to have a part of a course about black history include queer theory. I don't know whether that's appropriate or not. I don't think Ron DeSantis knows either. He's not an expert on black history and neither am I. So the idea that if that is the case, that that is part of the subject matter, then the course is bad or wrong doesn't make a lot of sense to me. That's first and foremost. But again, this is an elective

associated Associated Press AP Advanced Placement course. OK, these are, in a sense, college equivalency courses. When I took AP economics, for example, in high school, I got college credit for that course. In college, it would be completely normal to have more niche classes of this style. And it would make sense that the AP black history course would differ from whatever is taught to every high school student. But what DeSantis and other people in Florida are doing, it's sort of slick in a sense. They want to act as though seven year olds are being taught queer theory, for example, or that prisons should be abolished. Even if it's true that those things are in that course,

this is not being taught to first and second graders. This is an elective college equivalency advanced placement class, but they don't want to let the students make their own decisions. Remember, nobody's going to be forced into this course. Students in consultation with guidance counselors, their parents, whoever can decide based on their interests whether this is a course that they want to take. He's removing the choice and proactively saying we're going to get government involved to ban a class. This is part of the decidedly anti LGBT bent, by the way, that Ron DeSantis has been on. And it's been extra clear lately. Just a few days ago, DeSantis requested information from school, from universities statewide of every student who has I forget the exact wording, but basically it's like a list of trans students, which, as we've said in other states, Texas tried this. It doesn't appear that

that's actually legal. So DeSantis is making his intentions very clear, even though he claims to be small government. Government shouldn't do something unless absolutely necessary. It is not necessary to get involved in banning this optional advanced placement class. And that's what he's doing. And instead of promoting education and promoting understanding and promoting choice, hey, there's things available to you. You can choose what it is that you want to study, particularly if you're looking at AP classes. It's instead censorship and it is ignorance and it's all of those things. So the class should be reinstated. Nobody should be forced to take it. It is an optional AP class. Might have been 12 students who were going to take this thing, but they don't care. It's pathetic.

And it's very clear that this is, again, people like DeSantis loves to love to say the left is virtue signaling coming out against this class and trying to ban it and pretending like it's being forced on children is exactly the type of virtue signaling they claim to be against. There was a march for life and this is an anti-abortion event. Former NFL coach Tony Dungy, who I didn't realize was a sort of right wing extremist. He spoke at the March for Life and he drew a parallel between NFL football player DeMar Hamlin's cardiac arrest and abortion. What is the connection? I sure as hell don't know. But let's see if we can understand it as Tony Dungy explains it. Well, those prayers were answered. DeMar's

recovering now. He's home. He's been released from the hospital. But what's the lesson in that? You know, an unbelievable thing happened that night, a professional football game with millions of dollars of ticket money and advertising money on the line. that game was canceled. Why? Because a life was at stake. Huh. And people wanted to see that life saved.

Even people who aren't necessarily religious got together and called on God. Well, that should be encouraging to us because that's exactly why we're here today. Wait a second. Because every day in this country, innocent lives are at stake. The only difference is they don't belong to a famous athlete and they're not seen on national TV. But those lives are still important to God and in God's eyes. So I did not realize that Tony Dungy had these views. And there are a couple important things, I think, to mention here. You can be individually pro-life or pro-choice, you know, for abortion, against abortion in some cases or not, whatever. Right. I mean, it is your choice when we say pro-choice. I'm certainly not saying pro-choice means everyone

must be in favor of abortion being safe, available and legal. I'm saying it should be everyone's choice. If you or Tony Dungy or whoever is opposed to abortion, then I don't think anyone should force you or a mother or whoever to have an abortion. That's what I when I say choice, I mean choice on both sides. But when they liken abortion to the DeMar Hamlin situation, which, by the way, it's such a stretch, it doesn't even make any sense whatsoever. You are starting to go over into this extremely authoritarian perspective, which is it's no one's choice. Well, it's Tony Dungy's choice that no one else be able to decide for themselves what the right decision is. There are people who can choose not to get an abortion for whatever

reason they want. That's part of the choice. But they want to take choice away from everybody. They want to take bodily autonomy away from women and families in consultation with whoever they want to consult with. If you as a pregnant woman. Want to consult with your clergy about what you should do, that's your choice and that's fine. That's part of the choice we're talking about. But to say that the woman should not even have on the table the choice to say, well, what's right for me is an abortion. That is where these people go completely haywire. And by the way, against their own principles of keep government out of stuff to the extent that we can. One other thing, the stick to sports crowd is very silent, very, very silent. The shut up and

dribble LeBron people are very, very quiet when it comes to someone like Tony Dungy expressing an anti-abortion view, which is just part, of course, of that hypocrisy that they have. Anti-vaccine so-called expert Sherry Tenpenny is again spreading fear and promulgating disinformation about the COVID-19 vaccine. She is now warning everyone that is close to you is soon going to die from the covid vaccine, not from covid from the covid vaccine. Sherry Tenpenny is now warning about a tsunami of deaths in 2023. She says by the end of this calendar year, the year of the Lord 2023, every one of us will know five, maybe 10 or more people who have died from the covid vaccine. OK, let's listen to what she had to say. This is very instructive in terms of fear mongering

and so many other things. Let's listen. Now we're seeing the tsunami of deaths. So now that I've been talking about since the beginning of 21, millions of people are going to die. You know, when Judy Mikovits came out on pandemic at the beginning of 21, millions of people are going to die. You know, when Judy Mikovits came out on Plandemic at the beginning of that. And by the way, that was one of the biggest nonsense propaganda films, Plandemic and Mikovits. It's crazy to even mention it. That more than 50 million people are going to die. And everybody was like, whoa. And when they started interviewing me and I then asked asked me what did I think about that number, I said it's way too low. It's going to be much more than 50 million people

in America alone. And we're already starting to see it. We're not. So the tsunami of deaths is coming. It's already here. And I believe that what's happening now and is starting to happen now is the tsunami of regret of the people that fell for the lies.

Your friends and family members and parents and children and all they did to your grandchildren just could not be told otherwise. But now that people are dying like flies, I mean, my business partner has 83 close people in his life that have died. You know, most the truth is most people don't have 83 people in their lives that they are close to. This is like a separate issue. But these are obvious lies. Eighty three. Yeah. No, it's the beginning. And I predict that by the end of this year, every person in this room and every person listening behind here is going to know a minimum of five, probably 10 or more close friends and family. You don't have as many friends as her business partner. So you'll have only five to 10 people die. Members that have died from these shots. Right. So I want to remind everybody.

And this is so controversial. Every time people say, David, is Sherry Tenpenny a doctor or is she not a doctor? And when I explain it, people get mad. Sherry Tenpenny is not a medical doctor. She is an osteopathic physician. Now, whenever I make that distinction, people start writing in, including osteopaths saying, David, you shouldn't act as though that is less than being an M.D. I'm not saying anything. I'm just telling you she's not an M.D. She's an osteopathic physician and her claims have no scientific basis. It doesn't mean every osteopath believes the things Sherry Tenpenny believes. I'm not saying that at all. All I'm telling you is actual medical doctors have debunked her claims. Health organizations have

debunked her claims. Many osteopaths have also debunked her claims, but in the sense that osteopathic physicians are doctors, she is indeed a doctor. Now, if she sounds familiar and this is really the big point I want to make, it's because we have listened to her predictions in the past. And of course, none of them have come to pass. What I would like is accountability for these people. When they make these predictions. Let's remember. And then we can follow up and say, hey, that stuff didn't happen, because remember when she said this last year, the more shots you get, the more the more you destroy your immune system and the faster that happens. And it's anticipated the German data says. That by the end of 2022, every fully vaccinated person over the age of 30 may have

the equivalent of full blown vaccine induced immune suppressed AIDS. Ladies and gentlemen, as a fully vaccinated person over the age of 30, I am here today today to tell you I do not have full blown vaccine induced immune suppressed AIDS. I do have a little neck pain from a weird movement I did at the gym three days ago, but I don't have full blown AIDS. So the point is, it's fear, fear, fear. And we're going to talk about this later. I can't believe I'm saying these words. But later on in the show, I'm going to talk to you about Tucker Carlson fear mongering about a space vagina. I know it sounds insane, but it's what it is. They have to induce fear. Fear generates the environment they need in order to then sell you something, whether it's tickets to an event or a product or liquid, liquid silver, whatever it is they sell you. And then there's no follow up and there's no accountability. We have to hold these people accountable for their

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sense that I don't believe drag queens are a danger to children. I don't believe drag queens are a prominent or important political, social, cultural or economic issue to be describing or talking about. I just to me, drag queens are a nonissue. Republicans have made drag queens an issue, claiming some of the things I just said I don't believe, claiming as Republicans have that putting together children and drag queens is dangerous to the children in some way. Working to get drag queen story hours of different kinds where men dressed in drag read stories to kids. They have made it a political issue and have claimed that there is a fundamental immorality to drag queens. And now it turns out that lying Republican Congressman George Santos

regularly dressed in drag. Now, I don't know if there is a pejorative connotation to saying drag queen. I don't know if there's a difference between dressing in drag regularly and being a, quote, drag queen. I don't know the difference, but it seems to me that George Santos was a drag queen for a period of time. Business Insider now reports George Santos partied in drag over a three year period. New videos appear to show despite a suggestion it was a one off. I want you to remember he initially said it's not him in the pictures when these pictures came out of Santos reportedly dressed in drag. It's not me. More recently, he said, it's me. I did it once. I had fun. So sue me. But now videos and photos spanning a three year period, 2005 to 2008, appear to show Santos in a drag persona. He went by the name Katara.

So we are now we've got George Santos. We have Anthony DeVolder. Now we have Katara, which was his drag character, George Anthony Kat Kitara, Santos, DeVolder. They have been fear mongering against the LGBT community. They have been fear mongering about drag queens. And now it turns out that one of their own who they are very hesitant to just condemn and say, this guy is such a liar, he shouldn't resign. He just he should resign. Members of Congress have not been doing that in any significant numbers. They now are saying nothing about it. And the story first broke last week when freelance journalist Marissa Cabus published a Substack post about the drag queen past of George Santos, and it included the pictures and testimony of friends and all of it.

And even in the follow up of this story, George Santos continued to lie, first saying it wasn't him, then saying he did it once. And then now we have evidence that he was regularly dressing in drag. I don't care that George Santos dressed in drag. I don't care. What I care about is he lies about everything, everything, everything. And of course, the selective outrage from Republicans about if and when he's doing the right thing or the wrong thing versus when it's Democrats is disappointing. It's disgusting and it's pathetic. So, yeah, I'm disappointed that there are more lies, but it's also important to call out their hypocrisy. And I still am increasingly convinced that Santos is going to be able to just stick this out and eventually media is going to move on. But

the stories continue coming. And I've got to talk about a crazy one next. I don't I don't even know how to introduce this. George Santos says he survived an assassination attempt. That is the latest. Rachel Maddow has surfaced video of an interview that George Santos gave in Portuguese. OK, so the clip we're going to look at is in Portuguese with subtitles. And I'll pause momentarily, you know, brief every once in a while to tell you what's being said. He claims he was the victim of an attempted murder that he survived, and it led to him being under police protection. There is no evidence of this. I should mention, listen to this.

So at the top of the show, I went through a long but definitely not exhaustive list of the known lies of freshman Republican Congressman George Santos of New York. You're probably familiar with some of the greatest hits by now, the volleyball star and Wall Street fortune and all that stuff, right? But here's something you have not heard before. Did you know that Congressman George Santos also claims he was the target of an assassination attempt, which required him being put under official police protection? Wow. That is what George Santos claimed last month in an interview with a Brazilian podcast. The podcast is called Radio Novelo Apresenta. Forgive my pronunciation. Radio

Novelo Apresenta. They shared this video from the interview exclusively with us. So you won't see this anywhere else, but I want you to see it. In this interview, then-Congressman-elect George Santos is speaking with a host in Portuguese, so we have subtitled it. He starts off talking about an alleged act of vandalism, which he says was targeted at him simply because he's a Republican. But then in the midst of that, he says, oh, also someone tried to murder him. In January, the 21st, my house suffered vandalism. So he says this happened in Florida at a near after New Year's Eve party. So he says the vandalism was because he was at a Republican party. So there he casually mentions, I already suffered an assassination attempt, which I survived. Or a car to me, a sad door to the police, a squad of police in front of our house. Yeah, very, very casual. We had police protection, et cetera, et cetera.

We have already suffered an attempt on my life, an assassination attempt. Yeah. There was an assassination attempt. Really? Then Congressman-elect George Santos did not elaborate on his claim in the interview. We have tonight reached out to Congressman Santos' office to get more information about him saying that he was the victim of an attempted murder. Yeah. Getting New York police protection at his home as a result.

There ought to be a record of that sort of thing if it happened. We've inquired about this claim from him. We have not heard back. We do live in hope. Mr. Santos did offer more detail about a different act of violence he says was committed

against him. In this interview with the same Brazilian podcast, he said he was the victim of a very, very, very brazen mugging in the middle of the day, in the middle of one of

New York City's busiest thoroughfares. Very logical. for those who are men. And if you can't get the route now for only a little bit. Oh, my God. He says, oh, God. So first of all, he says this was at fifth and 55th. OK, I don't understand how any such mugging could take place at fifth and 55th in the middle of the day. He volunteers before asking me any questions.

They weren't black. They were even white, but they still even white people. These weren't even black folks. And they still had the audacity to rob him in broad daylight. They took his watch and his shoes in the middle of the day on 5th and 55th. And it's funny. Now, the news of the year, I don't think it's important to talk about what's happening in my school. I don't know if I got a job. I don't know that any of these things are true, but these are extraordinary claims. And it appears as though the lies simply will not stop. Voters are now furious with this guy. He claims I'm not hearing from anybody who wants me to resign. Let's talk

about that next. Camilla Deshalus or Deshalus, I'm not exactly sure the pronunciation is a congressional reporter at The Washington Post. She did a great thing where she spoke to a bunch of residents in George Santos's district who voted for him. And here is what some of them had to say about whether they want Santos to go. Do you feel like regret for voting for him? Yes, of course. Why? Because he's dishonest and he has no experience. I am outraged by it. And the idea that he should, you know, be able to remain in office is ludicrous. When you voted for him, what was your initial like why you wanted to vote for him? Oh, he seemed to be, you know, somebody who gave a damn about this neighborhood

and cared about people in general. So I thought that he really was going to make some kind of a difference. I just wish, why? Why do people lie? He shouldn't be in office. Yeah. So Santos insists that none of the people that voted for him want him to resign. But it seems that they do. And I continue to be disturbed by the ease with which none of this stuff surfaced before the election. And, you know, again, I'm not necessarily pointing fingers, but opposition research didn't turn it up and journalistic work didn't turn it up. It seems like if you go to get a job at a cell phone store, you are vetted more thoroughly, ultimately, than than how George Santos was vetted.

Now, this news spoke to high schoolers from his district who will be able to vote in the next election. Here's what they had to say. Port Washington, New York, Schreiber High School in Long Island's Nassau County is in the heart of Representative George Santos's third congressional district. I mean, I think he's an embarrassment and a pathological liar. True. We sit down with a group of AP U.S. history students at Schreiber High. They are 16 and 17, which means they will all be old enough to vote in 2024. Speaker 2 How many of you would register as an independent if you registered today?

Speaker 1 None. Speaker 2 Many of you would register as a Democrat? Speaker 1 All but two. Speaker 2 How many of you would register as a Republican? Speaker 2 Two of them. Speaker 2 Their history teacher estimates Republican leaning students are outnumbered by Democratic leaning students by an almost two-to-one margin at the school. But...

I haven't found one kid who is sympathetic to George Santos. They know the importance of the numbers in the House of Representatives. And although Santos represents them for issues that they agree on, they don't have sympathy toward the man. 16-year-old Tej Parek is one of the future Democrats. I think it's a very scary situation for us, having someone who's so clearly lied and so clearly fabricated his entire resume representing all of us. 16-year-old Nathan Jackman is one of the future Republicans. I like how the Nassau GOP came out against him. But obviously, Kevin McCarthy should come out against him.

True. And they should have a vote on the House floor in order to expel him from Congress. Put every single member of Congress on the record. I want the liar to stay or I want the liar to go. We this guy's got to go. And I every day that goes by that he remains in office, I worry that he is going to be able to stay. If you want to check out these clips I've played, we'll have them all on our Instagram, which you can find by searching Instagram for David Pakman show. We're going to

take a quick break. What a program we have for you today. One of our sponsors is CuriosityStream, Thank you so much, David. I'm always finding great documentaries on CuriosityStream that I can't find on any other platforms. It's really the only place to go for documentaries. And they have a special deal for my audience. You can get CuriosityStream for 25 percent off. Just go to CuriosityStream dot com slash Pacman and use the code Pacman. That's Curiosity S.T.R.E.A.M. dot com slash Pacman and use the code Pacman. That's curiosity. S.T.R.E.A.M. Dotcom slash Pacman. Use code Pacman to get a subscription for 25 percent off. The link is in the podcast notes. Some of you may remember that Donald Trump is being sued by author E. Jean Carroll for defamation

and for sexual assault, and this is all related to an alleged encounter in the 1990s. Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction. We have now learned that Donald Trump mistook an image of E. Jean Carroll for his own ex-wife, Marla Maples, in a deposition that took place at Mar-a-Lago last year. Now, you know, Trump has argued I wouldn't have sexually assaulted Jean E. Jean Carroll because she's not my type. Now, a lot of people might react and say, I don't sexually assault people. So it doesn't matter what the woman looks like because I don't sexually assault people. OK, fine. Trump said I wouldn't have done it because she's not my type. Fine. So the fact that he thought it was his ex wife suggests maybe she actually is his type. It's unbelievable. There's a Washington Post article by

Shana Jacobs. Trump thought photo of accuser was of ex wife during deposition. Donald Trump mistook his sexual assault accuser, E. Jean Carroll, for his ex-wife, Marla Maples, when shown a photograph from the 1990s in a deposition at Mar-a-Lago last year, potentially undermining one of the common defenses he has used to deny an attack. Trump, who's being sued by Carroll for defamation and sexual assault stemming from the same alleged encounter, has repeatedly said Carroll is not his type, suggesting an assault could not have occurred because he would not have pursued her romantically. That's Marla.

Yeah, that's my wife, Trump said when he was examined by Carol's lawyer, Roberta Kaplan, in a new selection of excerpts from the deposition that was unsealed. Trump's blunder in a sworn deposition was quickly corrected by his attorney, Alina Haba, who told him it was Carol, not Maples. Maples was Trump's second of three wives. Trump did not immediately have a comment. The black and white photo at issue has been circulating since Carol made the allegations detailing an account in her memoir of a forced sexual act. Trump has denied ever knowing her, said she's not my type. OK, we all

know that this is a stunning situation. And if this didn't deal with things as serious as sexual assault, we could all just be laughing at it. But one of the ways that Trump has tried to dismiss these allegations and dismiss and undermine the credibility of E. Jean Carroll has been to say she's simply not my type. I'm not attracted to her. I wouldn't have been attracted to her in the 90s. He's basically saying she is not desirable enough for me to even pursue her. Never mind force myself upon her or something like that. Here we learn, oh. An image of her in the 90s, Trump actually believed was his own ex-wife, someone who I would assume Trump was romantically and sexually interested in. Now, the bigger problem, of course, is that this entire

line of reasoning perpetuates some really horrible societal stereotypes about women and sexual assault. And it when Trump mistakes his accuser for his ex-wife, it not only continues to go along that line, which is like, was she attractive enough for Trump to sexually assault her or not? Right. Which is like a crazy conversation to be having. But it also more generally raises questions about whether anything Trump says can be believed, whether any of Trump's defenses can be believed when they might be based on complete misapprehensions by Donald Trump altogether. This is not the first time Trump has been accused of sexual assault. He has a history of denying allegations, undermining the credibility with similar statements. Not my type wouldn't have done it, that sort of thing. I don't know whether this is going to go anywhere, but Trump mistaking the accuser for his own ex-wife is really wild, wild stuff.

Christian nationalism is something we've spoken about a lot on the program. Christian nationalism is very generally speaking of you where you believe that Christianity should be not only one of many religions that people in their private lives can choose to follow, but directly connected to the law of the land and civil government. Christian nationalism includes the idea that the doctrine of Christianity should be first and foremost and in the forefront of what determines what are our civil laws and civil government. Now, Congresswoman Lauren Boebert from Colorado, who recently just barely, barely, barely won reelection.

She recently made some comments about Jesus and Christianity, and it's really the stuff of nightmares. She spoke about the end times and the rapture. And let's look at the clip first. But I want you to just have in mind, and I know I've said this before and people get offended. What is the line between religion and delusional mental illness when it comes to the sorts of stuff she talks about? I don't pretend to know the answer,

but let's listen to what she said. And one thing that I love, just an analogy, maybe maybe it's true. Maybe it's not about the second coming of Jesus. I've heard stories of, you know, people believing that Christians are going to be hiding out in caves and, you know, and just locked down. Maybe it's a lockdown, maybe it's a government lockdown, but they're shut in and they beg for Jesus to come back. He comes back and rescues them. I don't think that that's the way it's going to be. If the Old Testament is a type and a shadow of the New Testament, and you look at the Exodus from Egypt, Pharaoh, he was the one who called for God to get his people.

He said, get your people out of here. And I believe if that type and shadow is true for the New Testament, the church, God's people, will be out in such a great force that Satan himself will call for the second coming of Jesus. You say, I cannot do a thing in this earth with your people here. You come and get them. Come on. Wow. Incredibly powerful stuff. Now, I really need you to understand what she's talking about here. This, you know, second coming of Jesus stuff, resurrection, rapture, end times. This is all, you know, there's different flavors. And I know no matter which summary I give, someone will write in and say, David, you're misunderstanding

this or that aspect of it. Remember, there's a thousand versions of this, but it is some combination of there is going to be some kind of end time event where the Christians that are alive and the resurrected believers are going to rise in the clouds and here on Earth, bad things are going to happen. In some of these versions, all of the Jews die. And some of these virgin virgins versions, 144000 Jews survive. There's every everything under the sun. It's all pretty bonkers, OK, from just an earthly perspective. And it is apparently in some circles not only acceptable, but welcomed to hear elected officials talking in this way. And they use these beliefs to inform what they believe the law should be. For example, the very same place that Lauren Boebert gets the ideas you just heard, she gets her ideas about abortion, which then she

uses to say, here's what the law should be, even though we're supposed to have separation of church and state. So comments like these are just completely appalling. And her desire to inject this sort of stuff into civil government is an obvious violation of the separation of church and state. It if if if she got her way, it would lead to unofficial discrimination and marginalization of non-Christians, of non-religious people altogether. And it is one of the scariest things that is going on right now as a movement within the Republican Party. Yeah, MAGA stuff. It's wacky. It's scary. Space lasers, all of it. Right. It's crazy. But the Christian nationalism stuff is particularly dangerous. Here's another clip from the same interview.

This was the Faith in Action podcast, I guess. Lauren Boebert says God tells her re-election would be like the prophet Elijah in the Bible defeating the prophets of Baal. This is what this is what God said to her. I don't know if this was like at a cafe, at a bar or in private prayer. But and then this one, it was just the Democrat myself. He campaigned as a Republican. The media allowed him to do that. They called him a conservative, just allowed him to define himself as that is bizarre. But I won again with 51 percent of the vote. I just took a lot longer to get there. But, you know, throughout all of this, I was telling you, you know, God was really pressing on my heart. The story of Elijah. OK, she's saying God spoke to her. OK, I really need

everybody to understand. She is saying that a man in the sky, I think they still say he's a man of sorts or a masculine entity in the sky. Spoke to her about specific passages in the context of her reelection. He said the true God will answer by fire and those who worshiped bail. They they believe that bail was. I said ball. I guess it's bail. The true God, he said, Elijah said prove it

if Baal is the true God tell him to answer by fire and they're calling for him, they're screaming they're hollering, they're cutting themselves they're acting a fool, you know we've seen that like in 2020 riots and stuff but their God didn't show up

Elijah was mocking them well maybe cry a little bit louder. Maybe he can't hear you. Maybe he's sleeping. Maybe he's on vacation. I love that so much. And then he went and he said, you know what? I'm going to do you one better.

I don't want you to say that this is some kind of fluke, some sort of combustion that just happened. I'm going to drench the altar with fire or with water three times. Fire or water, whichever. Three times he went and drenched the altar with fire and God with water and God still showed up by fire. And that's what he was showing me with this election. He said it may look impossible in the natural that there will not be a victory. You may hear the voices, you may hear other people, but I am going to show up. Now, of course, these are always stories that are that are told with the hindsight of knowing

how the election turned up. She barely won and she could have lost. Would she still be telling the story? Listen, God came to me and he said, your reelection is going to be like when Prophet Elijah defeated the prophets of Baal. Then she loses. Oh, I guess God was wrong. No, but God, God is never wrong.

But this is the sort of stuff, even if they don't say it, that a lot of members of Congress are thinking when they think about how they are legislating. Now, I know many of you will write in and say, but, you know, David, this it's really not a big deal because you look at in Italy, everybody's Catholic, you know, although elected officials are Catholic and it's just no big deal. It's really important to understand that not all religions are the same. And I know lots of Italian Catholics. I have many Italian Catholic friends. What it means to them to be Catholic is a very different thing than what it means for

evangelicals like I believe she's evangelical Lauren Boebert to be evangelical. And the comfort that folks like Boebert, to be evangelical and the comfort that folks like Boebert have, even despite the separation of church and state that we're supposed to have saying things like we need Christian nationalism, we need the church to be guiding government and all of the things I've covered her saying over recent years. A lot of people with some connection to reality would be embarrassed to be on video saying the things that Lauren Boebert says, not not for the religious reasons, but because it would be seen as so inappropriate to come out and say, I believe that my religion, not just religion, but my religion, not anybody

else's, not any other religions should be dictating how government works. You talk to Catholic politicians in Italy who are nominally Catholic and would consider themselves religious in the way that many Europeans do. They would be humiliated to be caught saying things like what Lauren Boebert says. So it's not all the same. And it's a really important thing to understand this particular brand of Christian nationalism that often comes from born again Christians and evangelicals, etc. It's not just kind of wacky in terms of the things they say it is, but it's not only that. It also is extraordinarily dangerous in terms of what it would mean if they got their way. And when you look at what's happening in the Supreme Court and Amy Coney Barrett and others

who are on that court, who at least to some degree share a lot of these views, you realize that if things keep going the direction that they've been going, it's not completely out of the question that in some ways the Boebert types could get their way. And that's a horrifying thing to think about. There is something you use at home every day that is significantly harming the planet. And it is your toilet paper. Thirty million trees are destroyed every year for toilet paper in the U.S. alone. Deforestation is a contributor to climate change. And I think moving away from tree based toilet paper is something we can all do. And that's why I asked real paper to be our

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aftermath of the 2022 midterms, et cetera. So let's look at where the numbers are. And this morning there was a headline. Trump leads Biden in hypothetical 2024 matchup, according to a new poll. That is indeed true. Emerson College has released a new poll which finds that Trump is leading Biden 44 to 41. However, you do have 14 percent of respondents who are not in either camp yet. Ten percent say, well, I would support someone else. Four percent were simply undecided. But I think the takeaway, given that Emerson is a pretty good pollster and we'll see how good in a moment is that it is very much not a foregone conclusion that Trump can't win or that Trump is certain to win. And it is very much not a foregone conclusion that Joe Biden would have an easy

time getting reelected or that Joe Biden would be unable to get himself reelected. Neither. It is a very, very unclear scenario. Now, if we want to zoom out a little bit and say, OK, but David, that's one poll from Emerson. What if we look a little more broadly? I love that idea. So then we would go to 538 aggregation of different polls. And there you will find the Emerson poll. I just mentioned the Emerson poll. That's an A minus rated pollster in a Biden DeSantis matchup. It's essentially even it's Biden plus one. And in that Biden Trump matchup, as I just told you, Emerson has it Trump plus three. But what about other pollsters? Well, let's look.

Morning Consult, which is a B rated pollster, has a poll that's one day newer in Biden versus DeSantis. They have DeSantis ahead, whereas in Biden versus Trump, they have Biden ahead by three points. All right. What about a different poll? Well, we have one from a few days ago. This is a Harris poll. Harris is a B plus rated pollster in that poll. Biden DeSantis has DeSantis up three and Biden Trump has Trump up five. And then lastly, and this is the last one, because then we'll get kind of to our bigger observations. You gov, which is a B plus rated pollster. Biden Trump has Biden up four.

And in a slightly different formulation, they have Biden up six. That's registered voters versus what is a I forget what a is not actual likely anyway. And then in Biden, DeSantis, they have it even. So what's the real takeaway here? The real takeaway is not no one of these polls is really going to tell us everything that we need to know. The takeaway is anything quite literally could happen in 2024. We are not even really in the primary season. Donald Trump did something that's sort of out of not out of character for him, but it's out of norms historically to announce so early that he is running. He is scheduled to start campaign events soon, although I don't know that they're going to be

massive rallies. In fact, he does have an event in South Carolina this weekend. Our correspondent, Luke Beasley, will be there and we will have clips of interviews with South Carolinian Trump supporters for you on an upcoming program. The takeaway is we don't have any idea what could happen. And so any statements that sound like foregone conclusions of the sort of Biden doesn't have to worry or Biden has no chance, Trump's got this in the bag or Trump has no chance. None of those statements are accurate at this point in time. Now, what about the Republican primary? This is a very interesting question because there is a candidate who has not even announced that he is running Ron DeSantis, who had some polling that looked pretty good. More recently, it doesn't look quite so good for Ron DeSantis. In a recent morning consult poll,

Trump is leading DeSantis by 19 in the primary. In a recent Emerson poll, Trump is leading DeSantis by 26. In a recent B rated big village poll, Trump is leading DeSantis by 23. And in a recent Harris poll, Trump is leading DeSantis. Wait, Trump, Tim Scott, Trump plus 50. Oh, this is oh, this is against other people. OK, Trump is leading DeSantis by 10 in a Harris poll. So even though there was a period about a month ago or so where Ron DeSantis was actually leading Trump in a bunch of different polls, despite the fact that Trump has announced and DeSantis has not, which was quite stunning, it does not seem to be the most common scenario right now. That's where we are. Anything could

happen. Anything could change. But we will follow it probably like roughly every three or four weeks. Tucker Carlson is very concerned about a floating space vagina. That is not a headline that I would have guessed two days ago. I was going to be giving you today. This is the epitome of everything is scary. I'm going to explain right wing fear mongering to you with a segment in which Fox News propagandist Tucker Carlson is afraid of a Turkish floating space vagina. What am I talking about? OK, here's the deal. In Turkey, there was a cloud. OK, the cloud to some people looked like a vagina. And some of you will say, well, David, really, it's a vulva. The vagina is inside. We all know what I'm talking about. OK, we're using the colloquial term that

is usually used. Please, OBGYNs, don't write to me about this. It was really not like a huge deal. It's just a cloud. I mean, quite literally, it's a cloud. But Tucker has to fearmonger. So he does a segment saying this is really a problem. This is not normal. Take a look at this. Speaker 1 You've seen pictures of the very strangely shaped object that appeared in the skies over Turkey. Yeah. What is that exactly? It's not normal no matter what they tell you. Plus, tomorrow, millions of church going Christians in America still vote for the Democrats. Yeah, he was moving on to his next scary story that there are Christians who vote for Democrats. Maybe blame he was moving on to his next scary story that there are Christians who

vote for Democrats. Maybe blame the vaccine would be a takeaway. All right. So listen, this is it's so stupid, but this is very, very instructive. And I'll explain to you why, whether it's about big things or small things, the right relies on fear mongering tactics to gain support and to push their agenda forward. If there's a specific person to blame, even better. If there's a particular group to blame, absolutely fantastic. It's a strategy that fear creates a sense of urgency. We need to know what to do now. We need to know who is subjecting us to this and on and on and on the space vagina. He's using the same rhetoric he uses with a lot of this other stuff. I don't know that he's necessarily suggesting an investigation. He just seems confused by it, I guess, in some

sense. But the way that this works is you use the fear to create the sense of urgency and to otherize someone else, to agitate people, to scare them, to say, well, tell me what to do, please. You've scared me. Now, what is it that I'm supposed to do? And that's the point. You use the fear to get people to take action without fully considering the consequences. And this is why right wing politicians will often use fear to try to push for quick and drastic changes to policies or laws. Guys, we don't have time to sit and think about this and to debate it. There's a floating space vagina in Turkey. We've got to do something about it right now. Now, usually it's not a floating

space vagina. It's immigrants or communism that doesn't exist or Marxism that they don't understand that isn't Marxism or whatever the case may be. But that's how you slip changes through quickly that aren't actually in the best interest of the majority of people. Fear can also be used to create division and distraction from actual issues. A floating space vagina is not a real issue. Tucker's one hour show, once you take commercials away, is probably 38 minutes or 42 if it's like, you know, most corporate media shows. And every one of those minutes is going to something rather than something else. And when you do the space vagina thing, you don't talk about an actual issue that affects people.

And lastly, the fear is used to create an us versus them mentality. Now, he didn't go in this direction, but the Turkish floating space vagina could be used to make the audience suspicious of what is it that Turkey is doing? What is Turkey up to exactly? Will they have a floating penis soon or whatever the case may be? And it's part of this distraction method and it fuels all of these other techniques that I talked about. So it's such a silly example. It's a small example, although the cloud is quite large. It's a small example, small scale example of how everything leads to the exact same rhetoric and tone. And that's another fascinating and sort of funny thing. Whether Tucker is talking about a potential

nuclear war or a floating space vagina, his tone is exactly the same, which signals to people who have this stuff spoon fed to them on Fox News, they should be reacting with equal amounts of fear to both of the things. So it's quite sophisticated propaganda. And it would be better if people were more prepared to defend themselves against it. We have a voicemail number. That number is two one nine two. David P. I recently did a segment on the Pacman Finance Channel recommending what I believe to be 10 or so personal finance books that if everyone read, you would be ahead of 98 percent of the population in terms of personal finance knowledge. I did that segment last week. Someone wrote in. I'm sorry. They called in and they said, David, what about

Rich Dad, Poor Dad? Take a listen to this. David is Alan from Jersey. I'm watching your video on the Pacman Finance Channel about finance books you suggested, and your list did not include Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki. I can't believe you left this one out. I know. It's one of the best finance books that teaches you the difference between thinking like a rich person versus thinking like a poor person. For example, a poor person works hard, pays their taxes, and gets screwed over when their company lays them off. But a rich person like Kiyosaki writes a scam book, this Rich Dad, Poor Dad scam book. Then he gets in bed with Amway, which is a scam, multilevel marketing thing. Yes.

And forces Amway people to buy his book. And that's part of his whole scheme that made him the self-help guru. So yes, the Robert Kiyosaki is main strategy for getting rich is to write books and sell them to people telling them it's going to tell them how to get rich. So if you can emulate that, that is that is a way. Now, listen, I read Robert Kiyosaki's Rich Dad, Poor Dad, like the first couple of books when I was probably 16 or 17 years old, and I don't find them substantive and I don't find them serious. Now, whether he is a, quote, scammer or not, I will leave that to the critics to decide. But if you say to me, David, sir, I need recommendations

for personal finance books that are really personal finance books, not Kiyosaki telling me to get get just get start getting real estate that will generate passive income and then buy more of my books and maybe do some Amway stuff. No. If you want my actual list of good finance book recommendations, go to David Pakman dot com slash recommendations. And then we also have the finance content at YouTube dot com slash Pakman finance. I do not recommend Robert Kiyosaki's books or his courses or his whatever it is that he is selling. The books I recommend are cheap. They are complete and that they aren't going to try to sell you more stuff.

And again, if you read these 10 or so books that I recommend to you, your personal finance knowledge will be greater than that of 98 percent of the adult population. I've got nothing to sell you. They're not my books. They're other people's books. YouTube dot com slash Pacman Finance and David Pacman dot com slash recommendations on today's bonus show. The FDA wants to simplify the use and the updating of covid vaccines. What do they want to do and who is already flipping out about it? I think you can probably guess the first artificial intelligence powered robot lawyer is going to represent a defendant in court next month. This is super interesting and we're going to discuss it at length on the bonus show. And

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