The David Pakman Show - 3/10/23: Biden proposing new taxes, disinfo keeps spreading

Episode Date: March 10, 2023

-- On the Show: -- President Joe Biden will propose a new 25% tax on billionaires, raising the top tax bracket from 37% to 39.6%, and raising the Medicare tax from 3.8% to 5% on income exceeding $400,000 -- Former Republican Senate candidate Lauren Witzke appears on Fox News and says that being near a person vaccinated against COVID-19 made her sick, which is impossible -- Fox News guest Stacy Washington says that the lack of bibles in hotel rooms is responsible for increased "lawlessness" -- Caller talks about the mayor of College Park, Maryland getting arrested for child porn -- Caller discusses Republicans no longer running on policy matters -- Caller asks about moving out of a red state -- Caller wonders if Republicans will riot if Donald Trump gets indicted -- Caller questions whether the Republican Party will collapse if it keeps being so extreme -- Caller wonders why people don't blame Trump for inflation -- Caller asks if it will be easier for Democrats to defeat Trump or DeSantis -- The Friday Feedback segment where David responds to viewer emails and social media messages 👕 Leisure of NYC: Use code PAKMAN for 15% off at https://davidpakman.com/nyc 🥄 Use code PAKMAN for $5 off Magic Spoon at https://magicspoon.com/pakman ⚠️ Use code PAKMAN for a free supply of BlueChew at https://go.bluechew.com/david-pakman 🍷 Crunchy Red Fruit: Code PAKMAN saves you $20 at https://crunchyredfruit.com -- On the Bonus Show: The Friday Bonus Show with Producer Pat -- Become a Supporter: http://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/thedavidpakmanshow -- Subscribe to Pakman Live: https://www.youtube.com/pakmanlive -- Subscribe to Pakman Finance: https://www.youtube.com/pakmanfinance -- Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/davidpakmanshow -- Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave us a message at The David Pakman Show Voicemail Line (219)-2DAVIDP

. Bloomberg first reported and Axios was able to independently confirmed that President Joe Biden in his new White House budget is going to be proposing a number of new taxes. I am going to tell you what they are and then we will discuss whether they are likely to become a reality. Axios writes the new budget request to Congress set to be released Thursday includes a 25 percent minimum tax on the richest zero point zero one percent of Americans. This is a billionaire tax. It would also increase the top tax rate for those Americans making four hundred thousand dollars a year up to thirty nine point six percent from thirty seven percent. That was the rate prior to Trump's twenty seven tax bill, twenty seventeen tax bill. It would go back to that prior rate.

It would raise income levies on corporations and billionaires, and it would set the corporate tax rate at twenty eight percent, still below the thirty five percent rate that was in place prior to Trump's twenty seventeen tax law. That is not the only thing that Joe Biden plans to do. He also plans an increased Medicare tax. Remember, when we talk about Social Security and Medicare, sometimes people forget about the Medicare piece. What Joe Biden wants to do is increase the Medicare tax rate from three point eight to

five percent on income exceeding four hundred thousand dollars per year. And it would apply to both salaries as well as capital gains. It would likely increase tax revenues by over one hundred and seventeen billion dollars over 10 years. So about eleven point seven billion a year, according to prior estimates from last month by the Tax Policy Center. So a couple of different things. Is Joe Biden sticking to his promise not to increase taxes on people making under four hundred thousand dollars a year? By all reasonable assessments of these proposals, the answer is yes. Joe Biden is not raising taxes on anyone making under 400 K. Secondly, is this likely to pass? And the answer is no. I made this analysis when Donald Trump

would release his budgets. And it is the same analysis when Joe Biden releases his budgets. White House budgets are political documents, political documents. You have to get this through the House of Representatives currently controlled by Republicans in order to make it a reality. And so this is a sort of wish list. This is what you could say Joe Biden would do if he could wave a magic wand. And to be totally honest, sometimes presidents include things in White House budgets that they wouldn't actually do if they had full power to do it. They included in the budget as a signal, a virtue signal, we have to admit, knowing that it's not going to pass. Which category are these proposals under? Well, we don't know because we know that it is a White

House budget, which is a political document. So it will be interesting to see, however, are there negotiations to be had where Republicans who control the House would be willing to come to the table on some of these proposals from Joe Biden in exchange for what? Well, we don't really know in exchange for what we will be watching it. But so far, these proposals, as unlikely as they are to become the law, are keeping Joe Biden adhered to the promise he made about Americans making under four hundred thousand dollars per year. The conspiracy theory that has been widely debunked that being near someone vaccinated against covid-19 can do something to you has not gone away. We have another one of these

very dangerous clips. This is by the way, this is Lauren Witzke. Lauren Witzke is not some random person in the sense that she was the Delaware Republican Party's candidate for the Senate in 2020. Thankfully, she lost. She is now claiming she became sick after being around someone who had their covid vaccine. And she insists she's not crazy. Listen. Yeah. And the shedding is extremely real. That's how I caught whatever it was. And you can't tell me it wasn't a bio weapon because I've had flus before. I've had, you know, tons of stuff wrong with me before. I've never experienced anything like it. It was like in your head. It stole your joy. You couldn't like had zero energy,

brain fog. Like it was almost like I was poisoned. It felt like, you know, and you know, you can't tell me COVID itself wasn't a bioweapon, but I didn't catch COVID. I campaigned up and down the state of Delaware. She probably had COVID 2020 during COVID and didn't catch anything. I shook a thousand hands, didn't catch anything. I was around a family member who just got boosted. Didn't tell me I've never been so sick in my life. And it wasn't like sickness. It was like, I don't know how to explain it, but whatever is shedding off of them made me sick. And I've never quite been the same. I'm not as sharp as I used to be. I go back and I watch my interviews from 2019, 20 or 2020. And I'm like, wow, I was completely different person that she's like, I'm stupid. No, really. It did something to me.

And you can't tell me it didn't because I know it did. And I'm not crazy. Right. She's definitely not crazy, guys. So listen, the most likely explanation is the simplest, which is she got COVID. She was around someone who had COVID and she got COVID. The entire vaccine shedding thing. We've talked about it before. OK, the idea of shedding is someone gets vaccinated and then they shed something off of their body. It's not supported by scientific evidence. It's not a real thing. The COVID vaccines that are used in the US don't contain any live virus, so you can't shed virus. And the concept of shedding vaccine just doesn't really make any sense. Now, if you're sick with covid. Then you are shedding the virus when you cough

and so on and so forth. And it seems that that is probably what happened here. Now, one interesting thing, she says she hasn't been as sharp and whatever. As many of you remember, I got covid in early December. I am experiencing a long covid symptom, which is my sense of smell is diminished. Now, I never lost my sense of smell or taste when I had covid. It didn't go away, but it was diminished. And what I realize now is that it is still a diminished sense of smell. And honestly, the way that I came to realize it is since having covid, I don't notice from just being in a room with my baby daughter that she needs a diaper change. I used to just perceive it from the smell. People are understanding, I think, what I'm saying.

I don't notice anymore. And my girlfriend will say, does she need a diaper change? And I'll say, oh, I don't know. Does she? Yeah, it stinks in here. I genuinely don't notice that. I can smell stuff, but it is diminished. And I've read it can be 12 to 18 months. Thankfully, I'm not experiencing the brain fog that Lauren Witske seems to be struggling with. Hey, this you have to see a Fox News guest, Stacey Washington, serious radio host, says that one of the reasons why we are seeing more lawlessness in the United States is that when you go to hotels now, they don't always have those Bibles in the nightstand. That's the introduction. Let's listen to what she said. Will they be? I'll tell you what will happen because it's New York.

Unless you basically murder someone, you don't get in trouble here. They're in hoodies. They're in masks. Will we be able to even find out who did this? If we were, they would be either charged as juveniles or they'd be right back out on the streets. That's right. And to Ainsley's point, Stacey, these businesses, these ones that are open now are the ones that survived COVID. They survived the absolutely mind-boggling costs imposed upon them by the government to make sure that they complied with COVID regulations, the decrease in customers because of the lockdown and the pandemic. Now they're finally back on their feet. They're dealing with heightened taxes from this administration. They're dealing with zero foot traffic, massive rent payments because states like this

are trying to make up for the lack of revenue and just to get their business destroyed and potentially their livelihood in one five-minute fell swoop. So you see the increase in lawlessness when we take God out of everything. So we're so far down the continuum on that. And I'm talking about the fact that if you stay in a hotel anywhere, you can't even find a Bible in the nightstand anymore.

Now, admittedly, the Bible is on your phone, but it's just a thing. Isn't that amazing? So I have to admit, I am partially to blame for there not being as many Bibles in hotel hotel nightstands anymore. When I go into a hotel. When I look in the nightstand, if there is a Bible there, I put it out in the hallway like your room service tray that you're done with. I take it.

I don't want it in the room. I admit that I do this now. Sometimes I'll put it in the recycling bin, but I my instinct is that the housekeeping staff probably takes it out and puts it back in the nightstand. I don't know. But my move is to take the Bible and to put it in the hallway and then it disappears. I just don't want it in the room with me. Now, where do these Bibles come from? This goes back to actually 1899. There's a group called the Gideons International, and it was two traveling salespeople, Samuel Hill and John Nicholson. And they started,

you know, they wanted to spread the word of God, I guess, to as many people as possible. They thought hotel rooms are the place because you've got people there traveling or whatever. They might not have access to a Bible. So you stick a Bible there. And next thing you know, instead of going out and hiring a prostitute or seeking drugs, they'll say, I'm going to stay in and read the Bible and so on and so forth. And so this started sometime between 1899 and 1908. And the Gideon started distributing these. There are other groups that now do it as well. But Gideon's is the big one. So my move is blame me for it. Blame me for the lawlessness. I will, if I find one of the Bibles, put it in the hallway. It's not part of the hotel room that

I am looking, you know, double vanity, a rain shower, a shower head, free Wi-Fi. I'm right there with you. A couple of free Fiji waters, maybe. I love it. I don't need the Bible in the room with me, so I put it out in the hallway. I guess I'm responsible for the crime wave in New York City. Everyone should have a go to financial partner to guide you through a continuous and ever changing life journey. Our sponsor facet can help you not only start that conversation about money, but support you every step of the way. Facet, can help you not only start that conversation about money, but support you every step of the way. Facet memberships give you unbiased, personalized, affordable financial advice for any financial

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You can call in through the David Pakman Show Discord, which, by the way, you should join anyway at David Pakman dot com slash discord. Let's start today with Dan from Maryland. Dan from Maryland. Welcome to the program. What is on your mind today? I'd love to hear what what you've you've been thinking about. David, can you hear me? Yes.

All right. So you probably heard by now that my mayor was arrested for child pornography. Your mayor. I don't even know what city you live in. College Park, Maryland. Oh, no, I did not hear about the College Park, Maryland. Speaker 1 He was arrested by 50 counts of child pornography. Wow. And I am absolutely disgusted and disappointed because, you know, I volunteered for him. I campaigned, I voted and you feel pretty gross, you know, after this happens. But my comment is more of, you know, she is an openly gay man. And I feel like this is kind of feeds a narrative of, you know, the pedophile, you know, homosexual, their praise on children. And I feel like with what's going on with the anti trans and the drag queen

shows and the more of the laws that are happening, I just feel like it's a. I don't know, it's a log on the fire, if that makes sense. I totally understand what you're saying. And of course, I mean, as as we know, overwhelmingly, the people arrested for child porn are heterosexual. And I don't know of anyone who is saying we have a problem with with heterosexuals as a result of that. And one of these things is what people create a narrative and then they look only for examples that confirm it. But this is the first I'm hearing of that story. It sounds like like he's been charged, but not found guilty at this point in time. That's always important to keep in mind when we talk about these things.

But you are without a doubt right that it will be a way to throw a log on the fire. And that's the last thing we need right now. Yeah, because also 12 mayors so far this year have also been arrested for similar, I guess, actions as well. And it's just, I don't know, it's just disappointing that, you know, you live in a city and your mayor gets arrested. So, yeah. So I just want to say that, you know, I don't really have a question. I just wanted to put that out there. But I also want to say that I've been a longtime listener and I'm glad that you are keep going with the show and you do a great job.

Thank you very much, Dan from Maryland. Appreciate the call. You're welcome. Bye bye. All right. There it goes, Dan. Let's go next to Kevin from I hope I pronounce this correctly. Is it took wheeler? It's so cool. So cool. Yeah. OK. What state is that in? It is in Washington state. It's like 10 miles south from Seattle. All right. Well, welcome to the show. since we last talked, and I will go to you for some really important questions if I don't know the answer to them. And I have one in particular, and I have a follow-up. Okay. So the question that I have is, do you feel that the Biden's green energy plan through the Inflation Reduction Act is like selling the cart before the horse? In what sense? There is the concern that these green energy projects might not – there's a process that makes it so these green energy projects are not giving – and given the permitting at the pace they should be giving their current system.

And that's why Senator Manchin introduced permitting reform. There's also the concern that perhaps, like, there's probably not enough people that can assume, that can take on the initial jobs, those green energy. Oh, I see what you're saying. No, listen, I'm not concerned by that because sometimes in order to create so you've got to generate if if the government doesn't first fund some of these things, the businesses aren't going to start hiring and training the people to do the work, because in general, businesses aren't going to say, hey, the government might pass this. So let's like

hire and train a whole bunch of people. So I don't see that as a bottleneck. I don't see it as a problem. It might serve as a temporary bottleneck. But I think the right way to do it is the government says, hey, we're investing in these industries. Go grow, hire, train people, and there will be a lag time, but that's okay. I see. Um, but do you, do you also feel that, that there, that there might be, um, I don't know, some, some, some additional, um, ways to make the process a little bit more, more, more efficient, assuming that there's the dire need to meet the demand for addressing climate change? I'm sure there are. And whether it's government assisting in the training so that people can be hired more quickly to do some of the jobs for these energy retrofits to move to new renewable technologies. I'm sure there's a dozen ways to do it. But bottom line,

I think the right way is the government says we're investing in this stuff. We're going to get right to it and then figure figure out the rest. All right, Kevin, thank you very much for the call. I do appreciate it. Let's go next to Mike from Massachusetts. Mike from Massachusetts. Welcome to the program. What's on your mind today? Hey, David, thanks for having me. Pleasure. Can you hear me all right? Yeah, I can hear you fine. Awesome. So my so obviously with everything going on in the country lately, like, you know, especially, especially on like, you know, the front of like, you know, LGBTQ rights, well, you know, Tennessee just banned gender affirming care.

I think this for minors, I think Mississippi did recently too, or something like that. But, um, anyway, there's a lot and plenty of other topics as well. Things just don't look awesome at the moment. So it's, you know, I was looking into kind of how in the 2020 election and the 2022 election, it seems that younger voters, particularly Gen Z, as they're becoming a voting age now, seem to be changing the electorate, the face of the electorate. And I came across this, it's not a report, or maybe more of a study from the Brookings Institute that they updated in 2020, that kind of project how, you know, project how, you know, with baby boomers getting older, and J&Z getting older, and just where the

Republican and Democratic Party stand on certain social issues, how they project that the electorate is going to change and how various states are going to change political leaning wise over the next decade or so. And I know maybe this is a little naive to say, but even the most conservative friendly model from that report is exceptionally optimistic looking for the Democrats. So it's kind of a two part question. One, do you believe that all these demographic shifts and the continued demographic shifts that a lot of people seem to be portraying coming down the line with Gen Z and the diversification of voters? Yeah. Do you think those are genuine reasons to be optimistic going forward for the next decade or

so? You know, I do think so. But at the same time, it's been 12 years at least of people saying the demographic shifts in Texas are going to make it a red state, a blue state. The demographic shifts in Georgia are going to make it a blue state. And it's like, well, Georgia did vote for some Democratic senators. That's true. But continued Republican governors in Texas. I mean, yes, the 2020 presidential was as close as it has been in decades, but it's definitely not a blue state. So on the one hand, the predictions and the models seem sound. But I'm also aware that people have been talking about this for 12 years and it hasn't yet happened. So so I think it's plausible that it will eventually happen. But I don't think it can.

It's a strategy for Democrats anytime soon to just rely on demographic changes. Speaker 4 No, I understand. And I think like, yes, people have definitely been talking about certain states, particularly Texas, shifting from red to blue for quite a while now. It seems like we are kind of finally reaching a point, like I guess I would use the term inflection point, where, you know, the oldest baby boomers, and I don't mean to be morbid about this, but the oldest baby boomers are only a year or two away from the average life expectancy in this country. So that voting base is going to start declining in Gen Z, which is by every poll we can find overwhelmingly liberal and progressive. No, I agree. I agree. It's just a matter of when. And so in the meantime, we've got to do the best we can to win elections the normal ways, which is making the right case on issues, doing the campaigning, doing the work, et cetera. But at some point I see it as hopefully a bonus that is coming, which is the demographic advantages.

Speaker 3 Oh, absolutely. They definitely need to keep campaigning to win people over. They can't just rely on these changes, but it will make things easier. And I guess the second part of my question is, if these projections end up being even relatively accurate, I mean. What exactly would be a possible approach for the Republican Party to remain politically relevant? They're already doing it. It's just try to steal the elections. I mean, that's why they're already doing it. They're already losing on policy with the electorate that we have. And so the approach is let's make it harder for people to vote. Let's say we won even when we didn't win. Let's look at purging voter rolls. They're doing all that stuff. They're just going to do even more of it. Speaker 4 No, 100 percent. It's just I feel like that stuff can only get you so far.

Speaker 1 Well, we'll see. I mean, let's let let's see. Let's see how far it gets them in 24 and then go from there. Fair enough. Fair enough. Like I said, it was just something that I came across and I was like, is this too good to be true or is this genuine reason for optimism in the next decade or so? So, you know, I mean, let's just hope that the ship, the ships keep happening and the Democrats keep not completely shooting themselves in the flood. All right. Mike from Massachusetts. Very much.

Well said. Always good to hear from you. Let's go next to how about Chris from Iowa? Chris from Iowa. What's on your mind today? Hi, David. Can you hear me OK? Yes, I can.

Wonderful. So this is a question from a expecting father, myself, to someone who's currently a father. And today is what you call golden age of ignorance. Some advice on how, I mean, I know that your child is very young, but how to raise a child with a lot of really poor influences out there when it comes to ignorance. I currently live in Iowa, and right now our state has gotten more and more down that road of ignorance, and it's very concerning. And I know you live in a much more, you know, much more progressive area, but what advice would you have to kind of keep those, you know, ignorant influences away

while being aware that they still exist and not being completely shielding from them. So there's a couple of different things here. First of all, there are some things where if your child is eventually going to have access to media or be around other people, be in public, go to public school, et cetera, there are certain things that are realistically not going to be you public, go to public school, et cetera. There are certain things that you're that are realistically not going to be you're not going to be able to prevent them from seeing and being to some degree influenced by whether you're in a red state or a blue state

because of media and what is in media. So, first of all, you've got to be realistic. So unless you're going completely off the grid in the middle of nowhere, that you can't just kind of protect forever. I don't think that all being said. And this is a really tough thing to even really talk about. But if it comes down to what's best for your family, I would understand people looking and saying, hey, you know, Mississippi, Arkansas, Alabama, the Dakotas for picking a few states and saying, look at the infrastructure, look at education, look at life expectancy, look at the quality of the health care system, look at crime, look at all these different things and look at the countries that are equivalent when it comes to those metrics to

those states. And then you look at states like Connecticut and New York and Massachusetts and Vermont and to some degree, you know, Maryland and Delaware. And you say, wow, the metrics in those countries are similar to if you were to live in Norway or Sweden or a lot of the places we think are great. at a certain point. There's there's the thought of am I living in the right state for what I think is best for my family? And obviously, I'm not understating what it means to move to a different part of the country, job, housing, family, all these different things.

I'm not understating it in any way, but I think it is an important thing just to ask oneself, am I in the right place for raising kids the way I want to raise them? And, you know, it's it's it's a difficult question to answer in some cases, but I think it's an important one to at least ask. Yeah, no, I really appreciate that. You know, just to follow up briefly on that, you know, I've always heard, you know, you hear the grass is always greener somewhere else, but sometimes you got to mow your lawn. Right. And I, you know, do what I can to vote the people who need to be in power into power. Right. At least, you know, do do as much as I can. Hundred percent. I do love this area, but I am quite concerned about the direction it has gone in. And, you know, with a child coming on the way in the summer, you know, that just exacerbates all of the concerns that I have

here. Yeah. And I've talked to people about this who say, hey, you know, what I would really like is to stay where I am and achieve positive change. So it's a better place for my kid. Beautiful. I think that's fantastic. In some places, what that change would be is so lopsided and so overwhelming. And your kids, three, four or five, they're starting to enter the world in a certain way. I don't blame anyone for saying I'm bailing out for the good of my family. Not everyone can afford to do it. And there's all these ifs, ands and buts. But I wouldn't blame people for doing it if that's what they decide is best for them. Wonderful. Well, thank you so much for your for taking the time. Appreciate it. All right. Chris from Iowa. Let's

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Yes, I can. So just hypothetically speaking, yes, if Trump were to get indicted sometime this year and Trump supporters were to violently riot in response, yes, would that hurt Republicans in 2024? Speaker 3 It's interesting question. I think the answer depends on who's the nominee, right? If Trump is indicted and his supporters riot and Trump doesn't denounce it and he is the nominee, I think that that hurts Trump.

If Trump gets indicted and his supporters riot and Trump either drops out or loses the nomination, I think that whoever is the eventual nominee probably isn't affected negatively by these hypothetical Trump riots you're talking about. So I think that it depends on who is the nominee. Interesting. Yeah, I was kind of thinking along similar lines where it definitely would hurt Trump kind of in either way, kind of damned if he does, then if he doesn't kind of thing and deservedly so, I'd probably say. What do you mean by that? Damned if he does, you're saying whether or not he denounces or what do you mean?

I think either way, he definitely would face a lot of backlash, obviously, from the left. But I think in a lot of pockets of the right, if a combination of a Trump indictment and violent riots were to occur, I think a lot of the smaller pockets of the right who are more quiet about their disdain for Trump would be a lot louder. And I think would get a lot more support because of such a violent occurrence. That very well, maybe that very well, maybe. Let's hope there is no such violence. That would be the best thing.

Yeah, that would obviously be the best, the best course of action. And as a kind of unrelated side question, I was wondering if you had any book recommendations related to U.S. foreign policy. I really don't. I tend not to read sort of like new foreign policy type books. I have so many other things on my on my pile, including science and narrative nonfiction and history and different things. I just don't I'm not really reading in that genre right now, so I don't have any recommendations. Speaker 1 OK, that's fine. All right. Thank you for taking my call.

Speaker 1 All right. Joseph from Tucson. Great to hear from you. Let's go next to Jack from Pennsylvania. Jack from Pennsylvania. Welcome. What's on your mind today? Speaker 5 Hello, David.

First time calling here. Just a quick hypothetical question for you. Well, I think I first want to start off with a scenario here. Well, first, actually, do you think it's possible if either two parties grow more divided between Democrats, for example, the progressive and the moderate camp and the Republicans, the moderate and the MAGA camp, do you think it's possible to see something like what happens in a Whig party in the 1800s and the Republicans, the moderate and the MAGA camp, they think it's possible to see like something like like what happens in a Whig party in the 1800s, where like the entire party collapses or like the like splits up into two other parties. I do think it is possible, but the very entrenched system we have for the major parties, including financing and commission on presidential debates

and all of these other status quo entrenchments that we have would make it much more difficult to see what happened to the Whig Party. It's possible, but I don't see it as likely. OK, and then I guess like for follow up on that question, if it does happen to one of the other parties, let's say they're like magas and they say like the Republican Party like collapses, do you think it would be smart for the progress for the progressive caucus in the Democratic Party? Hello.

All right, we lost Jack. Jack was getting to some follow up, but we lost him with a very strange digital noise right at that moment. Let's go next to Edward from Colorado. Edward from Colorado. Welcome to the program. What's on your mind today? Hi there, David. Can you hear me OK? Yes, I can. OK, so I had a question, a patrol. Some presidential candidates. Speaker 1 You're cutting in and out, Edward.

You said you had a question about presidential candidates. Speaker 3 About a potential Gavin Newsom candidacy. Speaker 3 Oh, okay. Go ahead. Speaker 1 So I guess with him. Do you feel like. Like the severity of California's covid lockdowns would kind of thing. Oh, my God, Edward, you're cutting in and out with the severity of the lockdowns do what? Do you think it would be a substantive enough criticism that it would hurt him substantially electorally?

No, I don't. All right, Edward, the connection is atrocious, so I'm going to let you go. It's just it's very, very, very, very bad. Let's go next to Burt from New Jersey. Burt from New Jersey. Welcome. Please save us. Let's hope your connection is better than the last two have been. Hey, David, how's my connection? It's beautiful so far. Awesome. Awesome. Thanks for picking on me. Pleasure. Here's my question. When people criticize Biden. Yes. From the from the right right typically, right, first thing they talk about is inflation. This is Biden's economy, Biden's inflation, Biden's inflation.

Right. The very nature of how inflation occurs is you increase the money supply, right? So Trump in four years increased the money supply more than any U.S. president in the history of our country in only the four year span. Right. So my my question is, why don't people call that out? We're OK. You're you're against inflation.

Well, how are you for Trump? That that conversation increasing the money supply, depending on how it's done and for what purposes can have an inflationary effect. It is not a guarantee that it does. So I think at least we on the left want to be a little more precise with that and tactical in terms of when when we when we bring it up. But you're right that at least as far as the right is concerned, that is true. And listen, this is not new ground in the sense that I've said before, when Republicans say that

Biden's covid stimulus caused inflation, Trump did two of the stimulus is or stimuli as well as PPP, which became a fraudulent slush fund. So the I think the way I would approach it is, aside from debating the money supply issue, if you blame Biden, you have to blame Trump at least two times more because he did two of the covid stimulus packages. And of course, they don't because they don't actually care or know. It's just about what can I get away with saying and who can I criticize who's on the left? Right. And maybe my supply is not the right word.

What I'm really getting at is deficits. Right. It's Trump had an $8 trillion budget deficit in four years, right? That gets funded not through borrowing money, not through raising taxes, through just creating money supply, right? That alone has a huge catastrophic effect on inflation. It's no coincidence it started when Trump was leaving. Yeah, I think that the, you know they're modern monetary theorists disagree with that premise and are working hard to explain to us that that's not actually the case.

Where I will leave it is you're absolutely right in assessing the conventional wisdom around a lot of these issues. And Republicans are complete hypocrites in their ignoring of it as it pertains to Trump. One hundred percent right on that. Right. Right. So you can't be a New York Giants and a Philadelphia Eagles fan at the same time. It's like, I guess not. I guess not. That sounds tough. Yeah. All right, Bert, thank you for the call. I appreciate it. Thank you, dude. All right.

There is Bert from Jersey. Great to hear from you. Why don't we go next to a treaties from Boston, a treaties from Boston? Welcome. What's going on? Hey, David. So I had a question about Florida. Okay. Okay. So it's no secret that I mean, the Sanchez won by the highest gubernatorial margin in Florida history. I think it was 1.5 million votes. And in his four years of um in elected office he's especially in the last couple years been basically drunk with power you know what the don't say yay bill uh the jerry ring a whole list of things and just recently you talked about how he wanted to um or at least his state senate wanted to ban the Democratic Party from Florida. Yep. How he wanted to ban journalists from criticizing him. In fact, I was just listening to your colleague, Farron Cousins, last night saying that he

who lives in Florida is considering moving because of this. I basically wanted to ask the broad question, is Florida beyond saving at this point? Or do you think the pendulum is going to swing back at some point? No, I wouldn't say Florida is beyond saving, because what you have to remember is that the number of Democrats in Florida is insanely high as a result of the fact that Florida's population is so large. And although that margin certainly was was a record record for for the governor's race, I would not in any way think about abandoning Florida. I think Florida is a project where it has certainly started to lean more red than it

was, you know, in the Bush era, for example. But I would I would be I think it would be a disastrous idea for Democrats to abandon it. I think it's a great opportunity. The pendulum does often swing back. And I mean, listen, if DeSantis became president, it could create a vacuum in Florida that could actually be really good for Democrats. I think it would be a very bad idea to say we're not we're not thinking about Florida anymore. Yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat as you. I just I hear a lot of talk of it's time to let Florida go. No, not in the same way. Like, yeah, no, I agree with you. I mean, it has,

from what I understand, the fourth highest LGBT population. It's a state that Obama won twice. It has very high person personal person of color population. So yeah, I agree with you that it's not beyond saving. I just think there's there's definitely a lot of panic among the left. Yeah. What to do, Florida. Let's not panic and let's keep working because I think it's a it would be a huge mistake to give it up.

A treatise from Boston. Great to hear from you today. I do appreciate it very much. Let's see if we can speak to Darryl from Boston. Great to hear from you today. I do appreciate it very much. Let's see if we can speak to Daryl from Texas. Is that the right way to say it, Daryl? Yes, it's Daryl. Like, hi, David. It's my first time on the show. I've been watching your show for a while. Kind of nervous, but you're doing great so far. What's on your mind? OK, so I just saw this clip from MSNBC where like Mondaire Jones basically talked about how Democrats should be happy that Trump has like a stranglehold over the GOP and that Trump has a real shot of like winning or like winning the GOP nomination.

Yeah. And like my question to you would be like, should Democrats like like should Democrats have the attitude of like, oh, oh, we should we should want Trump to be the GOP nominee because he'd be easier to be in the general. I just talked about this with Adam Schiff earlier this week. Adam, I mean, I'm more sympathetic to what you're saying because I think Trump would be easier to beat and also would be less disastrous if he were president because the Sanchez would get more done.

But I still see Trump as having a really good shot of winning in 24. Adam Schiff disagreed with me. I think it's really a matter of opinion. I don't think there's like an objectively right answer on this issue because we're estimating we're making a prediction as to what Trump would do if he were president for more years from age 78 to 82 or whatever it would be. We're being forced to say what would happen and based on what we think would happen, what's better. So it's a matter of opinion. But I am sympathetic to the idea that it is better for Democrats to run against

Trump. I could be wrong. We're not going to know. At minimum, we're not going to know until it happens and it may not happen. Speaker 4 Oh, gosh, OK. Yes, I just thought it was interesting to mention because I remember during 2016, like the Hillary campaign. Yeah, I believe they tried like doing like the Pied Piper strategy where they were like like they wanted to push Trump to be the nominee with the expectation that Trump is easier to beat. But we all saw it backfired. Backfired. So you're right. And that's something I've brought up. Yes. Yeah. So I just I'm just worried that Democrats like like they could get complacent, you know, and potentially bought it again like 2016. Well, that's the biggest and most important thing, which is no matter who is the eventual Republican nominee, Democrats can always find a way to screw it up. And that's

what should really scare us. You just got you, OK? Yes, that's my question. I just thought it was interesting to bring up. All right. Thank you for the call. Thank you, Daryl from Texas. Great to hear from you. Let's go to a break. That does it for calls today. I will take calls again and I hope to be able to speak to you next time. I like wine, but I know very little about it and I am completely clueless when I go to a wine shop. I just don't know what I'm looking for. I don't know what I'm looking at. I couldn't tell you anything about varietals or if there's hints of persimmon or any of it. And so if you're like me wishing you had a seasoned expert by your side when you're choosing wine, crunchy red fruit is the answer. Crunchy red

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hell Kyle's talking about, and I've heard this before, that the people's rights are being taken by the drag and trans community. Since drag and trans are two different things. Let's maybe see if we can think that through. I can't even think of any bad arguments that the drag community is taking anybody's rights. I know the right might might say, well, they're taking away parents rights not to be around drag queens. They're really not. And when you look at the details of all of these drag time story hours and whatever, parents are bringing their kids to them. So I don't understand how anybody's losing a right there. If anything, parents are continuing to have the right to say, here's what I want to show my kid or here's what I don't want to show my kid. Now, as far as the trans community, I think the argument they love to make is if I, quote, have to call someone by

a certain pronoun, then I've lost my right of free speech. But of course, that's not really the case. What we're talking about here is decorum. There are situations where states might have a law, for example, with regard to being able to change your driver's license or at work changing your employee file if you've transitioned. But these things don't really have anything to do with rights. And it's sort of like if you're just out in the world and you don't want to use someone's preferred pronouns, it's not a question of rights. It's just a question of decorum and politeness, the same way that you could choose to use racist words around people. It's not a matter of rights.

It's a matter of how are you going to treat others? So as usual, they talk about free speech when it's not a free speech issue. They talk about rights when it's not a rights issue. OK, a lot of people don't like my analyses and coverage of Trump speeches and rallies. Laura wrote to me and said, you're horrible. It's the wrong you're. Required. It's the wrong you're. You're horrible. Making from of Trump. I assume I assume Laura means making fun of Trump. You're horrible. My horrible making from of Trump the best ever get a life and find another job. You aren't funny. Fact worthless, she adds. My favorite thing I have to I know that this some people don't like this. My favorite thing is when people hate that this is my job and it's a great job to have with tons of great benefits and perks and the ability to communicate with great people every day and

build a community. So you know what, Laura? I think I'm going to keep my job. And if you don't like my thoughts about Trump speeches, you don't have to watch. Cooper left a comment. You're free again. It's the wrong. You're guys. You're free.

Why? Oh, you are free to do whatever you want as long as you're prepared wrong, you're to suffer the consequences. So keep on doing drag shows for kids and you'll eventually get what's coming to you. Is this a threat of violence against the drag performers? Because who's doing the drag shows, the drag performers and and what on earth could possibly be coming to them. They're not doing anything wrong. Everybody's fine. I was thinking the other day talking with a friend of mine, you know, when my daughter

is at whatever age she might find. And if this entertaining, would there be anything damaging if she saw a drag performer? And I really couldn't think of anything. It just would. How would that even rank? How would that be anything to even be remotely concerned about? So I don't know what the consequences are going to be, and I don't even know what Cooper says the consequences are to the people seeing the drag shows.

It's all wild abortion. Still an issue for many in our audience. David wrote in, left a comment and said, what young people don't understand is you will reach out to God on your deathbed. How will you explain your stance on abortion or the abortions you had, you will reach for hope no matter what in the end. David, I'm ready to make a promise to you today. I am never, never, never going to feel the need to explain to anyone the abortions I've had because I'm not going to be having any. But this is a really common guilt thing. This is a big I would say this is a really Christian thing. Now, many Christians would say that's not that's not the spirit of Christianity. What I mean is a lot of evangelical Christians will fear monger in this way, which is when the time comes for your ultimate judgment

here on Earth. You're going to repent for what you did if you chose to have an abortion. These folks need to move on from something to something other than fear, except the fear works really well. That's why they keep at it. Many people not liking my Bill Maher criticisms lately. Sammy wrote in and said, bro, bro, you could do better than attacking Bill Maher. If you don't see wokeness as a problem, you're not looking hard enough. Well, remember, even Bill Maher couldn't define wokeness. He was given the opportunity by Jake Tapper on CNN. What do you mean by woke? And he said something about Abraham Lincoln.

OK, if they want to actually explain what they mean by woke, then I'm glad to engage with it in that way. But that seeing wokeness is a problem. I don't even know what you mean by woke. And most of them don't even know what they mean by woke. And most of them don't even know what they mean. That's been something we've looked at a number of times. David says the populist left is no better than the populist right. One tends to lead to actual communism and the other tends to lead to actual fascism. Unfortunately, the more centrist positions require a lot more work to maintain. The leaders of either

side have to work harder to craft something meaningful that the voters will respond to consistently and the voters themselves must work harder to stay accurately informed about the issues. But that, in essence, is also the key to a functioning democracy. Best of luck to us. But the big picture going forward isn't very promising. Listen, I I don't know about populist left leads to actual communism. I'm not sure about that. But what I will tell you is I have called out populist rhetoric on the left and right for a very long time. What's my main gripe with populism? It's that populism is not a policy platform or a set of policy ideas. Populism is a rhetoric. And as a rhetoric, it can be used to bamboozle people

into all sorts of bad policy. The example I've used before is, you know, both Bernie and Tucker will use populist sounding rhetoric about the abandoned middle class sounds very similar. Tucker's proposal, though, is we need to do something about Black Lives Matter, who will take your house and brown immigrants who will take your job. Right. That Tucker uses the rhetoric to suggest those as policies. And so I've said for a long time, we've got to be really careful about populist rhetoric, populism. It's not really a set of policy ideas, but it is a rhetoric and it can be used in a lot of horrible ways. Joseph left a comment on Facebook about the loyalty pledge that Donald Trump is being asked to sign. Joseph

says Trump could very well sign the pledge. He would want to be on the debate. He wants the attention. If he doesn't end up the Republican candidate, I think he would claim the process was rigged in some way. I think he's determined to be on the ballot, whether as the Republican candidate or as an independent. If he becomes an independent candidate on the ballot and he comes in third, I think everyone would finally turn against him. Even the MAGA freaks will turn their backs on him. If that happens, maybe Trump will finally fade away. Yeah, I mean, listen, guys, he's 76. He'll be 78 ish at the time of the election. I think that if Trump doesn't win the nomination and or doesn't find a way to win the presidential election, his political career is over. And I know, you know, a lot of people insist, oh, Bernie should run again or whatever.

Bernie Bernie's done with running for president. I would bet money on that. And otherwise, I think Joseph is absolutely right. Trump will do what he needs to do to get on the stage. And then that is that Bill posted to the subred Reddit and says, I don't know if this is a tough, touchy, touchy subject in here or not, but what in the heck is David doing with his mustache? He's my favorite media personality, but this is getting out of control.

He looks like a teenage dirt bag. It's very off putting. Is he trolling somebody? I don't understand. It's awful. He's a very handsome guy when he's clean shaven, but it's clear whatever he's doing with his facial hair is 100 percent deliberate. So I'm utterly perplexed by his choice. I'm sorry, David, but it's one of the worst mustaches I've ever seen. It looks terrible. I love this. And I also love only two thirds of the of the audience agrees with this take. One third does not. Folks, this is satirical facial hair, satirical. OK,

I've even got a mullet going. It's just a joke. It's satire. Now I've got the goatee. I'm getting a haircut in a couple of days. We're going to reboot everything. Just relax. I'm glad it provides entertainment, but it's really not worth getting so worked up about. But an absolutely genius. If if the message what I'm wondering is, is this message satire as well? It's it's awful. One of the worst mustaches I've ever seen. I love it. All right. And then Vindo Piper via Reddit says, David, don't feed the trolls with recurring segments about stupid YouTube comments or emails. It seems to me that David is forgetting a cardinal rule of interacting online. Don't feed the trolls. Don't let them know that their idiotic waffle bothers you. Don't

engage at all. When you read out their ridiculous nonsense and complain about the grammar, you're signaling they can reach you and it affects you enough to feature in the show. Don't over explain. You don't need to preempt criticisms like you just want war with Russia or you're a communist. Adapting your viewpoint points to anticipate the BS only encourages more with affection from a longtime viewer. Ignore the wing nuts. Don't give them any time or consideration. End of rant. Yeah. I mean, listen, I don't agree with this 100 percent. I agree with it 90 percent. That's why when we do the Friday feedback segment or whatever, it's just we feature a small sample

of the unhinged attacks and mostly try to focus on productive discussions. I do think that if we pretend that they don't exist, we fall into an echo chamber. And I don't think that that's good. So I think they should be featured in a limited manner, handled appropriately. And in that sense, I think it's productive and a healthy thing rather than creating yet another echo chamber. All right. Send in your thoughts. Info at David Pakman dot com.

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