The David Pakman Show - 3/21/23: Nation braces for Trump arrest as anti-DeSantis mania explodes

Episode Date: March 21, 2023

-- On the Show: -- President Joe Biden quietly accomplishes many things as Donald Trump's arrest looms -- Donald Trump may be charged with racketeering and conspiracy in Georgia, as the New York arrest looms -- A desperate and panicked Donald Trump releases a bizarre video at midnight -- Republican Florida Governor Ron DeSantis tries to straddle Donald Trump and Stormy Daniels with a bizarre smear -- Donald Trump goes homophobic, suggesting Ron Desantis might be gay in his latest attack -- MAGA Trumpists and Right Side Broadcasting are brutally trolled at a terrible failed rally in support of Donald Trump in lower Manhattan by our friends The Good Liars -- Donald Trump Jr is shot out of a cannon in his latest podcast in response to the Trump arrest rumors -- Donald Trump Jr explodes on Ron DeSantis as the Republican civil war rapidly accelerates -- Donald Trump has disastrous technical problems during a bizarre religious interview and call for prayer, and Trump blames the "radical left" for hacking his phone -- Fox News host is unable to define woke, claiming it can be a "feeling" or a "sense" -- Radical Republican Congresswoman Lauren Boebert recites a bizarre Christian prayer in the Capitol rotunda -- Voicemail caller is notably agitated and expects a Trump dictatorship -- On the Bonus Show: Biden issues first veto, Paris stinks as uncollected trash mounts, North Carolina urges Supreme Court to toss elections case, much more... 🧻 Reel Paper: Code PAKMAN for 30% OFF + free shipping at https://reelpaper.com/pakman 😁 Zippix Toothpicks: Code PAKMAN10 saves you 10% at https://zippixtoothpicks.com 💪 Athletic Greens is offering FREE year-supply of Vitamin D at https://athleticgreens.com/pakman 💻 Stay protected! Try Aura FREE for 2 weeks: https://aura.com/pakman -- Become a Supporter: http://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/thedavidpakmanshow -- Subscribe to Pakman Live: https://www.youtube.com/pakmanlive -- Subscribe to Pakman Finance: https://www.youtube.com/pakmanfinance -- Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/davidpakmanshow -- Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave us a message at The David Pakman Show Voicemail Line (219)-2DAVIDP

Speaker 1 Let's start today with some of Joe Biden's recent accomplishments. You know, on the bonus show today, we'll be talking about President Joe Biden's first presidential veto that was ordered. I'm not going to do that now because we have a plan to talk about it a little bit later. But as the former president seems to be closer and closer to a criminal indictment, it's important not to lose sight of the fact that without controversy, without drama, without drawing with a Sharpie on a hurricane map or asking about nuking Europe or a hurricane or whatever the case may be. Joe Biden has accomplished a bunch of

little things, none of which individually are completely mind blowing, but it's a lot of little, very important things. Let me know if you find this interesting. Let me know if you find this informative. Here's some examples. The FCC is going to release some additional funds this week to support what's called the Affordable Connectivity Program. And this is a program. It's part of the bipartisan infrastructure law that was passed under Joe Biden, and it will provide households that are eligible with a $30 credit towards the cost of their internet service plan or a $75 monthly credit for households living on tribal land towards

their internet service. And so the idea here is get more people broadband. The effect you might say, well, how many people will that help? It'll help a bunch of people. And then it will it's expected to get broadband to 16 million households that don't currently have it. That's like five percent of the United States. That's a really big deal. Not exploit. It's not a new health care plan, but it is a program with a measurable benefit that will get something that is increasingly a requirement. How do you increasingly how do you exist in the world and avail yourself of all of the

normal amenities that many of us take for granted if you don't have broadband Internet? Well, this will get 16 million households broadband Internet. That's a great thing. The Department of Health and Human Services, HHS, is releasing half a billion dollars in low income home energy assistance funds. And the idea here is help people cover home heating costs. We've had inflation. Energy prices are high. The Biden administration in November announced the distribution of a bunch of this money and it is now happening and it's getting a little bit of a bump to help people pay for heating. This is a great thing. Again, it doesn't solve the problem that groceries are expensive. It doesn't deal with stagnant wages. But now we've got credits towards broadband and funds for home heating. That's a really great thing. Then we go to prescription

drugs. There are new details on which Medicare Part B drugs. Now, remember, if you get access to the bonus show, we recently talked about what are these drugs. Medicare Part B drugs are expensive drugs administered by doctors. If the prices of certain drugs go up faster than inflation, there are going to be funds to subsidize the cost of those drugs back down. Does this fix the problem of health care prices or prescription drug costs? No, but it's going to identify drugs that will be qualified for inflation rebates or excessive price increases when the price of these drugs goes up above and beyond the cost of inflation.

And so people who benefit from these funds will see the prices of these drugs to them lowered in some cases significantly. That's another really great thing. Now we go to the EPA. It's really broad spectrum stuff Now we go to the EPA. It's really broad spectrum stuff. We go to the EPA. The EPA has taken a step forward in delivering clean water, particularly to disadvantaged communities by proposing some new standards, national standards for drinking water, contamination levels and what what amounts

of certain elements are allowed to be there in terms of PFAS substances. This is expected to prevent thousands of deaths and reduce by tens of thousands the number of illnesses attributable to those types of water contaminants. Is it perfect? No. Does it fix everybody's water everywhere? No, it certainly doesn't. But is it a good thing with a measurable impact? Yes, it is. And then a couple other small things. A Department of Transportation is launching its community electric vehicle charging program. Oh, but not everybody can afford electric vehicles. Right. But as we go towards affordability, hopefully one of the big impediments is having infrastructure to charge your car where you live and or work. And the Department of

Transportation is launching that. That's a program that was previously put in place, but it is now launching. And then the Department of Energy is moving forward with seven hundred and fifty million dollars for clean hydrogen research. Now, I know there are people who say David, hydrogen fuel is not the future. Well, it might be it might not be the future for vehicles, but maybe it is elsewhere. It's certainly something that should be researched. And that money is now being made available. These are all modest changes that will have measurable positive impacts for in some cases, thousands or tens of thousands or with some of these bigger programs, even millions of people quietly accomplishing

things. Couple different thoughts. Number one, is this interesting to people? Is it interesting to hear about some of these things that are happening? Number two, is there a disconnect between those who benefit from these programs and making the connection that, oh, this is because either of the Inflation Reduction Act or because of other programs? I like that. Maybe I am more satisfied with Joe Biden's job performance than I thought. And what I mean by that is very often people are asked, do you approve or not of the job that the president is doing? And oftentimes people say I do or I don't. And very often it's driven by what's in the news. Oh, the Afghanistan withdrawal went well or it didn't go well. I approve or I disapprove. When you would think if people were more aware of some of

these programs, if you're now getting 30 bucks a month towards broadband and they're starting to build charging stations near where you live and you're getting home heating assistance and a Medicare Part B drug is now being subsidized for you. That's tangible stuff. But only if you know about it, might it influence your level of satisfaction with the job that Joe Biden is doing? So that's another aspect of this. Let me know your thoughts. Do you want to regularly hear these sorts of updates? Curious to hear what people think as we wait to see whether Donald Trump will be arrested and indicted in New York. We have new news out of Georgia that there may be potential racketeering and conspiracy charges there coming against the

failed former president, Donald Trump. This is, again, the belief about mounting legal troubles without yet even knowing whether the New York indictment is going to happen. Now, before I get into this CNN report about what we have learned, I want to remind people that one of the possibilities, if and when the New York indictment of Trump comes down, which Trump said would be today, certainly not seeming like it's going to be today, but we will follow it. One of the reactions was it's kind of a weak charge. It's not the strongest charge that could be made against Trump. And I agreed with that. And the hope was that we know there have been prosecutors who, despite having great evidence against Trump, have been hesitant to be the first to indict

a sitting or former president and now a former president. Is it possible that the Stormy Daniels charges will break the levy and then we will see other indictments come in? That's the hope. And if that's the case, CNN reports that Georgia prosecutors are considering racketeering and conspiracy charges. And this is all related to Trump's effort to overturn the results in Georgia in the 2020 election, where, of course, Joe Biden won because Joe Biden received more votes. CNN reports Atlanta area prosecutors are considering racketeering and conspiracy charges. Fulton County District Attorney Fannie Willis could make decisions on charges this spring.

Willis will bring her charging recommendations to the regularly seated grand juries, each serving two month terms. Two regular grand juries were seated in March. The next batch will be sworn in in May. Investigators have at least three recordings of Trump pressuring Georgia officials, including a phone call that he made to the Georgia House speaker to push for a special session to overturn Democrat Joe Biden's 2020 victory. There is also a recording of Trump's call to a top investigator with the Georgia secretary of state's office where they were looking into quashed allegations or of irregularities with signature matching. And then, of course, Willis kicked off the investigation soon after the infamous January

phone call, wherein Trump pressures Brad Raffensperger to find the votes necessary for him to win. This is the next layer. Media also reporting Trump's legal woes go from bad to worse as CNN reports potential RICO charges for pressuring Georgia election officials. So what do I believe is going to happen? I have no idea. As I've said for a long time, I believe indictments are plausible and prison time is essentially an impossibility for Donald Trump. I've explained why numerous times, so I won't do it here. This is very serious stuff. There's no doubt that these are potentially very serious charges. At the same time, many of you like me have been stuck in this sort of time loop where we're always close to possible charges,

possible charges stemming from this or that blatant violation of a law that we read about. And yet, quote, nothing happens. On the one hand, I feel that frustration. I share that frustration. And there is a feeling that this is just never going to happen. On the other hand, when you speak to legal experts, they do say these things take a while. Oftentimes, when you look at white collar crimes by non presidents, just by, you know, a CEO of a tech company or a bank or whatever the case may be, it can take years to build these cases. Here we're talking about a man who was and is now a former sitting president. And so the timeline is not actually that unusual. It's just that in most cases,

we're not following investigations and we're not aware of possible charges until much closer to when those charges are announced. So I am not really taking a position as to whether I do or don't think any particular indictment or charge or arrest is going to happen. Trump said he was getting arrested today. It doesn't seem like it's happening. And now the discussion is about either tomorrow or next week. I don't know. I remain convinced, convinced that Trump will never see the inside of a prison cell. And the big picture of that is that at the very worst case, if there were a plea or a guilty verdict and there were to be confinement allocated or assigned to Trump, it would be served as home confinement.

I think that that is the absolute worst case scenario. But we're not even at that step yet. We are now at the step of there are four at least major investigations into Trump. Will any of them lead to an indictment or an arrest? We may know within hours. We may know tomorrow. We may know next week. But the big news from the last 24 hours is whatever happens with this New York Stormy Daniels hush money case. It is not the end of the line, as Georgia, I have believed, is the strongest case for a while now. And it seems as though the most serious

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midnight video last night, early this morning, wherein he calls all four investigations into him just Democratic left wing bias in yet another sign that he is both not only really scared, but very, very disconnected from reality. This video was released through rumble and embedded on truth central. Here is Trump very late at night claiming that the weight of his massive polling lead. Where did you think I was going with that? The weight and size of his massive polling lead is forcing desperate Democrats to try to charge him, of course, ignoring the reality that these investigations have been going on for a long

time before he was even a candidate for twenty twenty four. Let's take a look. These four horrible radical left Democrat investigations, by the way, I know people seeing this are going to write to me and say, David, how can you not comment on the fact that it's not even orange that Trump is anymore? It's almost like he he's he's painted himself so dark that it doesn't even make any sense. And his lips look white and folks, I get it. I get it. But it's not the focus here. I get that he looks like a like a reverse mime, I guess we would say. But we're not focusing on that here. Your all time favorite president, me, is just a continuation of the most disgusting witch hunt in the history of our country. It's gone on forever with Russia, Russia, Russia and Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, and the Mueller hoax.

It's an absolute disgrace what's going on. They even spied on my campaign. Of course, that's not true. Should I explain that again? I guess I'll briefly just be it's been a while. Just I if you know the explanation, I apologize. The the allegation from Trump is that they spied on my campaign. What happened was that Trump's 2016 campaign was in touch with so many suspected criminals

who were themselves under surveillance that when those suspect suspected criminals would make phone calls to people associated with Trump, Trump's associates associates would incidentally be surveilled because they were talking to suspected criminals. They weren't spying on Trump's campaign. And remember this with all of the work that they did on Mueller, no collusion. That's what the answer was, was all no collusion, whether it's the Mar-a-Lago raid or the unselect committee hoax, the perfect Georgia phone call that was absolutely perfect,

or the stormy horse-faced Daniels extortion plot. There it is. They're all sick, and it's fake news. Our enemies are desperate to stop us because they know that we are the only ones who can stop them. And they know it very strongly. And they're looking at the polls where not me, but we are up by so much.

They can't believe it. Is that true? We'll look at that. We won twice and now we've got to win a third time. They know that we can defeat them. They know that we will defeat them. But they're not coming after me. They're coming after can defeat them. They know that we will defeat them, but they're not coming after me. They're coming after you.

Right. This is a classic, which is by trying to hold me accountable for crimes for which there is evidence you are really being targeted. Like, no, no, no. They're targeting you for the things you allegedly did. I'm just standing in their way. Right. And I always will stand in their way. Thank you very

much. That video released just after the stroke of midnight early this morning. And of course, as unhinged, panicked and desperate as ever. All four investigations are merely Democrats going after Trump because the polls are so great for Trump. The truth is that the polls are good for Trump. They're not absolutely fantastic. And in fact, Trump does worse against Joe Biden than does Ron DeSantis. Just for being thorough, if you look at some recent polls, yes, there continue to be polls in which Trump is doing very well in the Republican primary. But there are also polls that are quite close. And it really depends on which poll you look at. These are Republican primary polls. And Trump is winning depending

on the state or whether it's a general poll anywhere from between two and twenty eight over Ron DeSantis. But these are not big surges. These are what the numbers have been. And then importantly, if you look at the general election, Biden against DeSantis versus Biden against Trump, Biden does better against Trump in every one of these recent polls. So it's not really true that there's a polling motivation to try to get Trump out of the way if you are Democrats. And by the way, Democrats, Justice Department, Biden in D.C., prosecutor, D.A. in New York, the Georgia. These are all different groups is the truth. And just to say these are just all Democrats is also not accurate.

But the idea that Democrats would be saying, let's charge Trump to get him out of the way. Why? DeSantis does better than Trump. It wouldn't make any sense to try to do that. Ron DeSantis attempted to straddle Donald Trump and Stormy Daniels. I know it sounds weird and it sounded weird to me, too, but he did it. He tried to straddle them when asked about the looming alleged indictment and arrest of Donald Trump for the potentially illegal hush money payment made by Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, to Stormy Daniels. Ron DeSantis tried to ride the fence. He tried to straddle them and both say that there are politically motivated prosecutors involved, but also to attack Trump for paying off. I think he refers to her as a

porn star in this video. I have to tell you, folks, I don't think this is going to get DeSantis very far, but take a listen. From the Florida Standard, we wanted to know what your thoughts are on the rumored Trump indictment and if you have any role in it, if charges are brought on him, any role in extradition to New York? So I've seen rumors swirl. I have not seen any facts yet. And so I don't know what's going to happen. But I do know this. The Manhattan district attorney is a Soros funded prosecutor. OK, so he's on message in terms of what a lot of the pro Trump people have been saying, which is George Soros

is at the end of the day behind this and this is politically motivated. So he's on one side of the fence, which is this is what the Trump people have been saying. But he doesn't stop there. He doesn't lose this opportunity. Speaker 3 And so he, like other Soros funded prosecutors, they weaponize their office to impose a political agenda on society at the expense of the rule of law and public safety. He has downgraded over 50 percent of the felonies to misdemeanors. He says he doesn't want to even have jail time for the vast, vast majority of crimes. And what we've seen in Manhattan is we've seen the crime rate go up.

OK, so remember, he's he's continuing with the Manhattan crime rate, ignoring the fact that many Republican run cities, including Oklahoma City, have higher violent crime rates. So so far, this is like a totally Trump answer. But wait for it. And we've seen citizens become less safe. And so you're talking about this situation with and look, I don't know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to to secure silence over some type of alleged affair. I just I can't speak to that. OK, so now he's taking the dig at Trump and this really triggered Trump and it really triggered Don Jr. And we will get to that. But DeSantis now jumping a little bit to the

other side of the fence. But what I can speak to is that if you have a prosecutor who is ignoring crimes happening every single day in his jurisdiction and he chooses to go back many, many years ago to try to use something about porn star hush money payments, you know, that's an example of pursuing a political agenda. Now, of course, the truth is Michael Cohen went to prison over this and he did it all in service of Donald Trump. So it's only logical that if Michael Cohen committed a crime, you at least need to seriously look at whether Donald Trump did as well. But I have to tell you, I don't know that this is going to win too much, quite frankly, for Ron DeSantis. And what I mean by that is this is some real both side stuff trying to straddle

the fence. But I don't know that it's going to bring in anybody on either side. DeSantis had days to think about, listen, at some point I'm going to be asked about this. What is it that I should say? And what he comes up with is Soros. And I'm not really going to get too involved and I don't know anything about paying porn stars. I just don't know that this is going to bring anybody to his side. And as we've talked about before, the Soros stuff is basically at this point code for Jews and globalists and nefarious elite cabal conspiracy theories. And he's jumping fully into that. And the people on the Republican in the Republican Party that don't like that aren't going to be thrilled with

this. But at the same time, he goes after Trump with the whole hush money porn star thing, which many Trump supporters have not exactly been thrilled about acknowledging. So DeSantis doesn't have to approach it this way, but he chooses to. He doesn't, by the way, mention, no, I wouldn't get involved in extraditing Trump to New York if it came to it. I don't believe it will. And it's not going to be something that comes up. But DeSantis opting not to even answer that. And I don't think that this is really going to help DeSantis in any way. It's quite frankly, he's trying to play both sides in ways that both sides will ultimately end up being turned off by. That's my view. If you think this approach by DeSantis makes any sense in hell, let me know.

I'm curious to hear from you. Donald Trump also now hitting back at Ron DeSantis and going with an attempted homophobic smear, suggesting that Ron DeSantis may be gay. Yes, it is March of 2023. And this is where we are. Donald Trump, apparently out of ideas going with it's possible that DeSantis might be into men rather than into women. I know it's crazy. I know it's crazy. Donald Trump posting to Truth Social in response to DeSantis's recent statements about the Trump looming indictment, which we just looked at, quote, Ron DeSantimonious will probably find out about false accusations and fake stories sometime in the future as he gets older, wiser and better known when he's unfairly and illegally attacked by a woman, even classmates that are underage or possibly a man. I'm sure he will want to fight these misfits just like I do. And again, this is only a smear to homophobic people. Right. If I found out

a candidate I liked or was thinking about supporting were gay, I would say, oh, I don't care about that. What are their policies? But to a group of people that would immediately not consider voting for a candidate that was gay or might be gay, suggesting that there may be men who come out of the woodwork is a smear. Now, when you look at the exact language of it, it sort of seems like Trump would be saying, well, these would be false allegations against DeSantis. But still, it's that idea that with DeSantis, it might be men who come out of the woodwork and then following up on this attack with another attract attack on Truth Social Central quote. Ron DeSanctimonious is dropping in the polls so fast that he soon may be falling behind

young Vivek Ramaswamy. People are beginning to find out that Ron wanted to destroy Social Security and raise its minimum age to at least 70. He also had strong plans for cutting Medicare and still does. Nothing good happens when you are a disciple of Super Rhino Paul Ryan. Also, Florida did great long before the Sanctus came along, got my coveted capital E endorsement, shot up like a rocket and won. And of course, I won't look at the polls a second time with you because we just looked at them in a recent segment. But it is not true that DeSantis is falling in the polls. DeSantis is doing roughly just as well as he has been doing. He does better against Trump in head to head matchups. DeSantis doing worse against Trump when you include Nikki Haley

and a whole bunch of other people that might run for that Republican nomination. So this is a full blown civil war right now. Trump with a looming arrest going after DeSantis, DeSantis going after Trump. And later what you will see is Don Junior's involvement in this. But that is going to be much later today. We're going to take a short break. And next, I want to look at this is really something else. Our friends from the good liars, Jason and Davram, they went to the lower Manhattan, quote, protest yesterday against Trump's arrest. They were interviewed by Right Side Broadcasting Network, and it is the stuff of legend. So we're going to look at that after

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I hope you enjoy this. So yesterday there was a protest or a rally in lower Manhattan near where presumably Donald Trump would be arrested and booked if indeed that happens. Right side broadcasting was covering it live. We covered it live and it was just a complete and total mess. Barely anybody showed up. There seemed to be more media than there were actual protesters. It was wild. Right side broadcasting is doing interviews. And while of right side broadcasting is interviewing a young guy draped in some kind of flag wearing a red MAGA hat. Jason from the Good Liars, which is this satirical left wing comedy duo. They've done really, really good stuff in the past.

Slowly, Jason from the Good Liars, who if you're watching right now, you see is sort of like screen, right? Jason drifts into the shot and the kid who's being interviewed immediately recognizes Jason and says, oh, the good liars, the interviewer from right side broadcasting apparently doesn't know what the good liars is, who they are, doesn't recognize Jason. And Jason just brutally trolls that the protest was totally flaccid. And I know that technically the word is pronounced flaccid, but nobody says it that way. So I'm going to continue saying flaccid. So people know it was like a wet noodle protest. Totally pathetic. Jason slips in and it's just you have to see the execution here. Let's take a look. Meaners and change some misdemeanors to felonies and specifically prosecuting Donald Trump when

he didn't he did very little wrong, if anything. He's prosecuting around the city right now. I mean, there's crime everywhere. So the kid immediately recognizes him and says, hey, the good liars, what's up? And Jason just tries to shake his hand and keep going. The interviewer has no clue what's going on. And this this this is just so well done. Good to see you.

There's good. There's crime everywhere. And I think like this is a political prosecution. It has to be right. Like that's that's the only way it could be happening right now is if they're going after him political politically. The only other option is that Donald Trump lost by 7 million votes and is a loser who can't deal with the fact that he lost the election

because he based his whole personality on being a winner and calling people losers. So you think his attitude, his approach, his personality is what... Is what got us in this mess in the first place, potentially? Or I'm just going to choose to believe that the election was stolen and everything that he says. The interviewer has no idea what's going on. Because I kind of like based my whole personality on supporting Donald Trump. So I'm not going to maybe accept the option. You live in the city?

I live in the city, yeah. So how's the city changed over the last couple years here? I mean, I know crime, but I don't live here, so I don't I can't judge whether that goes. It's gone up or down. Yeah. New York City, I think, is maybe fifty ninth in crime right now. I think there's four cities in Indiana that has have more crime. Oh, man. And the kid next to Jason, who's really a MAGA guy, knows exactly what's going on. But he's allowing this to continue, which is just amazing. Mark does. Yeah, exactly. So I haven't really noticed a lot of crime, but I do see it. And on Fox News, they say it's it's much more dangerous now. I don't I haven't seen it.

I haven't seen any more crime. So like maybe that's it might not be true, but I'm going to choose to believe that it is true because I did see that on Fox News. Of course, because what we see on Fox News is true, right? Just like CNN and MSNBC. If you see it on if you see it on cable news, it's got to be true. Donald Trump said CNN and MSNBC are fake news. That's right. We got to use the fake news.

OK, OK. So and then just one more clip here. And this is just so brilliant. He's asked to weigh in about like the size of the rally. And he also slips in some good stuff here. So, I mean, what's your take on it so far? I mean, there's a lot of people out here. Yeah, it seems like there's a lot of media. I would say just it's basically all media. And I guess there's is a Braxton Braxton. And then I see another guy with the flag. It seems like there's about 10 Trump supportersxton. And then I see another guy with the flag. It seems like there's about 10 Trump supporters here. The rest are media. Yeah. Oh, man, this is just absolutely fantastic. And, you know, the other the other really funny thing in general about this is that the Trump sort of like asked supporters

to be ready to protest or whatever the case may be. They're not seeming like that willing to do it, interestingly enough, except a few did go out front to Trump Tower. And I think it's quite literally five people and a woman blows a shofar. So there are one, two, three, four, I guess five or six people to holding Trump one signs and one woman blows a shofar. And that's what they were able to sort of coalesce at Trump Tower. This is starting to become surreal as if it hasn't been surreal for the last six days. It is unbelievable what is going on here. And that's not even counting what Donald Trump Jr.'s last 24 hours look like in his first

podcast episode. Since we learned that at least Donald Trump thinks he's about to get arrested. Donald Trump Jr. delivered a manic episode seemingly about what is happening with his dad. I've never seen Junior like this, and I've seen Junior pretty hopped up. He also seems to have developed like a new accent for his podcast where he speaks in an extraordinarily strange way. And his show is called Triggered, which is very, very apropos of his demeanor here. Take a look at this. Who really gives a crap about law when you're weaponizing your office in a leftist state and where everyone there agrees with you.

Most of the prosecutors there don't know what the hell to do about this because even they, like the most radical of the radical left. Isn't this the most bizarre delivery? Realize that it's insane. All fairness, like, isn't she like paying his legal bills or something like that? I don't know. But, you know, the district attorney is going to district attorney, right? The Soros-funded district attorneys are going to do whatever the guy that's bankrolling them wants them to do. The law be damned.

The Constitution be damned. Your rights be damned. Because, you know, when you hate America, what difference does it make? This prosecution isn't based on facts or the law or anything that even resembles that. How would he know that? Pure Bolshevik style witch huntry. The hot take on Twitter was that these guys are trying to do this. This was the hot stupid take on Twitter over the

weekend, like the dumbest take ever that they're trying to do this to make sure Trump's the nominee like they weren't trying to put him in jail for the last eight years, like they didn't accuse me and the rest of my family of treason and other things. OK, and then at another moment, I guess, ostensibly, Junior on this episode was interviewing Ronnie Jackson, the Republican congressman who used to be Trump's doctor. And again, it's like it's not really an interview because Junior is just ranting uncontrollably. You know, as you know, I had a really good relationship with a lot of guys on my Secret Service detail, like so much so that they move guys off of my detail because they were like, oh, you're too comfortable with this. I was like, I promise you guys like like, you want me comfortable with my guys because if something goes wrong, like, I'm the guy that thinks I'm always right.

Like, I get that. Like, I want to like the guy because I'll trust him a lot more. Plus, everybody knew you had more guns than I did. Well, that, yeah, we won't even get into that one. Clearly, clearly. So, you know, we had a good time. But, you know, the one sort of thing, you know, four years of, you know, guys rotating in and out, I mean, that was the one thing they said with you.

You know, you took care of those guys, too. You know, when they were going on international trips, when they were pulling multiple day type. Understand that what Junior is doing now is saying Ronnie Jackson, as Trump's doctor, would give sleeping medication to Secret Service agents. That that's really the core of what he is praising him for here. You were the guy that took care of everything that they ever needed and did so professionally. Those guys love you. And that stuff means so much more to me than if the boss likes you. Right. You know, when the guys that, you know, you could blow off. Right. You know, I don't need to pay attention. He's lowly or whatever. He's not high up on the totem pole. He can't help my promotion or my career.

Right. You know, when those guys are a huge fan, you know, that's when I'm like, OK, yeah, now I respect it so much more. And so watching that attack on you, right. Again, a rear admiral obviously served in the Navy. Just a bizarre, bizarre show altogether. And maybe the most interesting thing about the Don Jr. show on Rumble is that it in the last three to five days has taken a decidedly anti Ron DeSantis perspective. And that's what I want to briefly

look at next. Apparently taking a cue from Donald Trump, starting the homophobic attacks on Ron DeSantis. Donald Trump Jr. now went on another one of these manic rants, this time targeted at Ron DeSantis. And he basically says DeSantis is terrible in every way that the DeSantis you think might exist from TV reports doesn't really exist. This is getting very ugly and it's only going to get worse. Take a look. That's what it is, guys. He's owned by the billionaire donors, 100 percent controlled opposition. Let's see which way the wind is blowing. Let's see which way they want me to respond, and I will do it. So I was hoping for a strong response, but we got a milquetoast response. We got weaker than most rhino Republicans. We got a weaker response than a lot of never-Trump

Republicans. And guys, here's the deal. You can hire influencers to post videos of you dunking on what was like a hot Twitter take 10 days ago on some moron local reporter. You can get plenty of people to do that, as Ron has. But that doesn't make you ready for the big leagues. If you can't understand that this is a fundamental issue of our time, then you're not ready. Then it's not your time. As even people like Mike Cernovich, who have been big DeSantis supporters, just heartbroken that DeSantis doesn't understand what Soros DAs and the Bolsheviks are going to do to this country. The Bolsheviks. Can you imagine? Listen to this guy. He also said DeSantis blew it today. The only people saying otherwise

personally hate Trump or were never Trump in 16. And again, even some of those are coming out. And not just coming out like milk toast, they're coming out significantly stronger than Governor DeSantis. Okay, again, I know when you're ready for the big leaves, I spent a lot of time with these guys. I spent a lot of time with DeSantis personally. The image created online by the paid influencers, guys, unfortunately, one on one, it doesn't exist. And this week made it clear. So the best and most accurate sign that the Trump team sees DeSantis as a real threat is the amount of attention they have paid to Ron DeSantis over the last two weeks in particular. Trump posting daily on Truth Central about Ron DeSantis. Trump starting with the homophobic

smears against Ron DeSantis, Don Jr. starting with the attacks on Ron DeSantis, people associated with Trump, including Steve Bannon, Mike Pillow and others going after Ron DeSantis. You go after those that you believe pose a threat to you. This is why Trump seemingly encouraged Nikki Haley to run as far as we know and is going bonkers attacking Ron DeSantis. He sees him as a threat, even though I still think it's important to remember Trump is in a position of power in the Republican primary. If and when the indictments come, we will evaluate how that changes those prospects. But if nothing changes, this really is Trump's nomination to lose. Everyone should have a go to financial

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You know, before we get to some serious stuff, you know that one of my favorite things, if you watch my live streams, is when Donald Trump has technical problems with his audio, and it actually happens a lot. And I'm incredible. All these people don't know what the hell they're doing. Further scream that his days are numbered. This is a gross deal that included the largest agricultural worth of our farm product. OK, but I think, Eric, they're not like they lived up. I used to check it every week. Are they buying? Are they buying? OK, so yesterday, apparently in the middle of thinking he's very close to getting arrested, Donald Trump called in to some pastors for Trump show.

I don't even know how he gets booked on this stuff, to be totally honest. And it's all really weird. And about 50 seconds in when they ask him for a prayer call, the audio just goes completely crazy. And then Trump claims that the radical left hacked him. It's let's just listen. And we are ready to introduce the president of the United States. By the way, the the president, the president of the United States is Joe Biden, isn't it? Donald J. Trump is coming on live with us, the 45th and going to be the 47th president of the United States of America. President Trump, welcome to Pastors for Trump National Prayer Call for you.

How are you doing, sir? I'm doing well, Jackson. I appreciate it. And it's an honor to be with you. And I just heard a great General Flynn and my friend Roger. So we already have the echo, but this is nothing compared to what happens. And I was very honored to give them full pardons because they were treated horribly by government, these radical left lunatics and full pardons. They're almost as clean as you are right now, Jackson. That's a very special category, okay?

But they're two terrific people that really suffered greatly at the hands of crazy people. So this was my great honor. And Clay, thank you very much for the great job you've done. And Kristen Davis, we appreciate it very much. Very much. President Trump, I wanted to uh tell you i i was in my wife my wife and i were attending the ncaa wrestling event in tulsa oklahoma and we could see you and all i could say is that my wife and i pastor jackson everybody out there is praying for you and i think a lot of people are looking for a specific uh what is the prayer that you would like for the thousands of pastors who are tuning in right now?

What is the specific prayer request that you have tonight, sir? Yeah. Hmm. This is all still live. Remember, Speaker 3 they can't hear that. That's Trump saying they can't hear that. Speaker 1 Somebody's working on something. Very, very important stuff here. Some people thought maybe Trump got arrested and that's

why he went quiet, but that was seemingly not the case. More Trump whispering. One of the hosts gives a thumbs up. And they're getting very, very close here to fixing the audio. It's not even really clear what the problem is because you can hear Trump kind of breathing in the background. Strangely enough, they may not have prayed hard enough everybody's getting upset now. Okay. Can you imagine waiting all day for your interview with Trump and then this happens? Okay. I guess we have a little phone miscommunication. And I think what happened is the radical left.

The radical left was working on the phone. There's no question about it. But I think you heard what I said previously. Is that right, fellas? Hello. Anyway, that's basically enough. Now, there were people there were people who wrote to me and said the reason this happened is because Trump doesn't like to answer religious questions.

Right. Remember this? You mentioned the Bible. You've been talking about how it's your favorite book. And you said, I think last night in Iowa, some people are surprised that you say that. I'm wondering what one or two of your most favorite Bible verses are. I wouldn't want to get into it because to me that's very personal. You know, when I talk about the Bible, it's very personal.

So I don't want to get into it. I don't want to get into it because to me, that's very personal. You know, when I talk about the Bible, it's very personal. So I don't want to get into it. I don't want to get into it. It means a lot to you that you think about or cite. The Bible means a lot to me, but I don't want to get into specifics. All right. So anyway, I actually don't think that's what happened. I think that was genuine tech trouble. And I loved absolutely every second of it. A Fox News host is unable to define woke saying woke might just be a feeling or a sense that you get this coming from the people who say if you can't define woman right now, then you're some kind of postmodernist wokest from the wokeocracy of Wokestan. Here is Dana Perino.

And this has come up before. When you say woke and you're anti woke. What do you mean? What is woke? And we see it backfire time and time again. Of course, the reason is that it's been completely perverted by the right. If you want to talk about a loosey goosey postmodern explanation of woke, listen to Dana Perino yesterday on Fox News. One of the things about woke is can you explain it to your mom? Think about that. And I remember when President Trump was running and it was before he won in 2016, he used to get standing ovations initially when he would say political correctness is ruining our country. And everybody that was clapping knew exactly what he meant. No, they didn't see. That's the thing. People clap at Trump rallies without understanding

anything that's going on. This is Dana Perino's first mistake that you know it when you see it. Everybody in the crowd knew what political correctness was, even though Trump didn't define it. No, they don't. They're like trained seals. They clap at anything. But it's sort of like the Supreme Court definition of pornography. You know it when you see it. So the Democrats want to get you in an argument where you're having to find defined woke ism as if the Webster's dictionary is defining it. Sort of like you want to get into discussions with people as if the definition of woman is what you find in a 50 year old version of the Webster's.

It's the exact same thing. The criticism they are making is the one that many on the left make of them when it comes to the term woman. The difference being the difference being woke is a term that's been perverted deliberately by these folks. And that's not what it is. It is. It could be a feeling. It could be

a sense. And I wonder if Republicans or conservatives are going to have to define it more. She could be right. I don't know what this this will be. Yeah. Woke could just be a feeling. It could be a it could be a little tingle down your leg. Dana. Is woke ism in the room with you right now? Where exactly is it? This is so pathetic. They say facts don't care about your feelings. And why can't you just define what you're talking about if the wokeness they claim to be so widespread, so noticeable, so prominent is nothing more than a sense what you need a Ouija board in order to figure out where it is. This is why these people are pathetic when you actually try to engage them in good faith about, well, listen, when we talk about women, there's a difference when we say, what is a woman from the purposes for the purposes of an obstetrician versus what is a

woman when we're talking about how bathrooms or sports should be organized? They don't want to. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That's that's postmodern nonsense. OK, like what's woke? Well, I can't tell you. It might just be a feeling. It's a feeling in my in my arm. I can feel the wokeness in my arm. Give me a break, guys. But of course, the hypocrisy doesn't matter. We're never going to win just by pointing out that they are hypocrites. And so we've got to find another way forward. Radical, repugnant Republican Congresswoman Lauren Boebert bizarrely was praying in the Capitol Rotunda. Now, as many of you know, I am not a Christian. So I've wondered for a long time when people say they were pleading the blood of Jesus. What the hell does that mean?

I'm wondering, is this video Lauren Boebert pleading the blood of Jesus? You tell me what's going on here. Take a look. Thank you for your son, Jesus. We come to you boldly by the blood of Jesus. It's only that blood that grants us access into the holy of holies, into your presence, God. We thank you so much for your goodness. It is your goodness that leads men to repentance, that causes men to change their mind about you, God. To see a different side of your holiness. God, we love you because you first

loved us. Jesus, thank you for your redemptive work. It was complete. It was full. There was nothing missing. There was nothing lacking. There's nothing that you left out, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. You paid the price for each and every one of us. You went to hell in our place and you rose again victorious. And when you were seated at the right hand of the father on high, you did not leave us alone. How is this not mental illness? I think you get the idea. Nothing makes me respect religious people less than when they orchestrate conspicuous public prayers for publicity genuinely. And by the way, listen, I don't care what Matthew says, but in Matthew six, six, it does say when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your father who is unseen. Then your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. Not that I care what is in Matthew six, six. But if Lauren Boebert

claims to, shouldn't she be following that dictate and not orchestrating this pathetic public stunt? Anyway, is that pleading the blood of Jesus? Maybe somebody can tell me what it is. We have a voicemail number. That number is two one nine two David P. I'm going to play a voicemail number. That number is two one nine two. David P. I'm going to play a voicemail for you from a caller who is very agitated. But this doesn't seem to be a right winger attacking me, although they are attacking me. But not from a right wing perspective. This is someone who apparently expects a Trump dictatorship and is worried that I'm going to press the F you button on them, which I don't know what that is. Maybe it means that we have to bleep voicemails. I'm not sure. Speaker 4 So, dude, I really you push the F you button on me because I was on a rant.

No, you're making money on this, too. You love talking about this. This is this is disgusting. What's going on? You realize nothing's going to happen to this guy. So hit the F you button. Yeah, get do it. Who the hell cares? Look what our country, we're going to be under dictatorship by Donald Trump and his disgusting skank hole daughter and the son. You watch and see what happens. Goodbye. Before you hit the F you button. Well, if there's no F bombs, there's no reason to hit the F you button, which I don't have. The F you button is like Pat bleeping stuff. So listen, this guy's pessimistic. I get it. I get I say I, you know, the whole skank hole thing as a way to reference to Ivanka. I'm not big on that, but I sympathize with the sentiment that nothing's going to happen. And, you know, supposedly Trump's arrest was today.

And I kept saying this is what Trump claims. We don't know that that's the case. It doesn't seem as though that's happening, although maybe by the time we publish this episode, Trump will have been cuffed and booked. But I doubt it. I sympathize with this feeling that nothing is going to be done. Trump won't be held accountable and he will end up back in power with his authoritarian delusions and dreams. I hope that that isn't the case, but I sympathize with the frustration on today's bonus show. We will talk about President Joe Biden issuing his first veto. What was the veto over and what are the implications? We will discuss it. Secondly, Paris is increasingly under the weight of stinky trash. Uncollected trash has mounted

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