The David Pakman Show - 3/22/24: They finally admit the truth on Biden impeachment, Republican runs away

Episode Date: March 22, 2024

-- On the Show: -- Fox News anchor John Roberts admits the truth about the Biden impeachment inquiry, which is that no matter what they do or don't find, it won't end before the election -- Michele Morrow, the Republican nominee for North Carolina public school superintendent, runs away when asked by CNN reported about her posts saying Presidents Obama and Biden should be executed -- Stormy Daniels says in a new documentary that she worried Donald Trump would have her killed if she did not sign the NDA associated with the hush money payment she received -- Caller predicts the end of the United States -- Caller wants help dealing with Trump-supporting family members -- Caller argues that Biden not being in charge is a dumb talking point -- Caller reflects on how we ended up with Donald Trump -- Caller discusses the Electoral College -- Caller is a bartender who has to deal with Trump supporting clients -- The Friday Feedback segment -- On the Bonus Show: Trump claims he's scrapped together $500 million in cash, Kyle Rittenhouse runs away from debate, and much more... 🖥️ Malwarebytes: Get 50% OFF with code PAKMAN at https://malwarebytes.com/pakman 🩳 SHEATH Underwear: Code PAKMAN for 20% OFF at https://sheathunderwear.com/pakman ⚠️ Try Ground News and get 40% OFF the Vantage plan at https://ground.news/pakman 🛡️ Incogni lets you control your personal data! Get 60% off their annual plan: http://incogni.com/pakman 💪 Athletic Greens is offering FREE year-supply of Vitamin D at https://athleticgreens.com/pakman -- Become a Supporter: http://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/thedavidpakmanshow -- Subscribe to Pakman Live: https://www.youtube.com/pakmanlive -- Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/davidpakmanshow -- Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave us a message at The David Pakman Show Voicemail Line (219)-2DAVIDP

. You know, when Fox News gets it right, I have to hand it to them. Fox News anchor John Roberts admitted the truth yesterday about the Joe Biden, Hunter Biden impeachment crimes, bribery, investigation, whatever you want to call it. And here's the truth. There's an election coming up. Republicans aren't going to let it go until after that election. That's what this is really about.

It's not about the evidence. It's not about the crimes. It's not about the allegations. It's not about what, who did what, to whom or when. It's about there's an election coming up. They have nothing and they're not going to let it go. Let's take a listen to this. And I have quite a bit to say about never been the purpose. The purpose is doing the investigations.

We have a formalized impeachment inquiry because some of the initial information we uncovered, by the way. So first we're hearing from Byron Donald's, the congressman. Then we'll hear from the reporter. Then we will hear from John Roberts. The anchor has led us to the current information now where we have actually found the money trail to Joe Biden and other issues along those lines. Now, the president remains on the campaign trail today, so we'll see if he has any to weigh in after yesterday's hearings. As for next steps, House oversight could send criminal referrals to the Justice Department, John, but we don't know what DOJ would do here. But also the timing of all this. Like you said, we've got the election approaching very soon.

Yeah, and there's no way the Republicans are going to let this go before the election. I would think no, regardless of what they find or they're going to say, regardless of what they find or don't find, there is no way that Republicans are going to let this go before the election. That's what this is all about. That's the end. That's the end point of this entire thing. The evidence doesn't matter.

And look, guys, Byron Donald says we've been able to prove the money trail. All you've proven is that Joe Biden gave his brother some money and then his brother gave him some money back. That's all they've been able to prove. We have checks. We have bank records. Yes. Joe Biden has a bank account. Wow. What an explosive revelation. Yes. Joe Biden sometimes adds money to that bank account. Connections to China criminality. Listen, every time they're asked what crime was committed. We looked yesterday on the show. Congressman Reshan Thaler can't name a crime. Tony Bob Alinsky can't name a crime. He's sure there was one. Can't name it. Nobody can name the crime.

Rico Rico is not a crime. It's a framework. So that is the bottom line. This is they talk about the weaponization of investigative powers, the weaponization of the justice system, the weaponization of oversight. That's this. It's projection all the way down. That's what they're doing.

There is nothing here. And my promise to you remains if it turns out that despite decades of Joe Biden being in public service and there being no evidence of his crimes, if all of a sudden the evidence appears, I will be the first to come to you and say if they warrant impeachment, let's impeach. If it warrants criminal referrals, let's refer criminally. Because I don't have any personal attachment to Joe Biden per se. There's just no evidence that the guy committed any crimes whatsoever. They don't even have the smoking gun of evidence. Having a checking account, having a son who worked in Ukraine, none of that points to Joe Biden's criminality.

If they find it, I will be the first to tell you that they found it. Hey, this you have to see. There is a Republican nominee for superintendent overseeing North Carolina's public schools. It's 11 billion dollar budget. And the person who won the nomination is Michelle Morrow. She's a conservative activist. She upset the incumbent superintendent. And now CNN has been trying to talk to her because it turns out that she previously called for the execution of Barack Obama and the execution of then president elect Joe Biden. She's been refusing to talk to the media. So CNN's Shimon Prokopez went and found her. And I have mixed feelings

about the ambush journalism technique. And I will discuss that in a moment. But let's take a listen to how the conversation went. I'm a tomorrow. How are you? How did it go in there? Yeah, great. Yeah. Good. Who are you guys with?

I'm sure my poker cousin with CNN. Oh, have you been parked in my neighborhood by any chance? We've been trying to talk to you. Yes. Okay. Well, you can go through my. I understand. But I have you now.

So why don't we talk now? No, no. Why not? Well, I want to ask you, do you still stay? I'm not talking to you, ma'am. Do you still stand by your comments about former President Barack Obama and that he should be executed calling for the death of other press? I love the casual nature. Hey, do you still think Obama should be killed?

Can you just update me where you are on that? The casual nature with which he asks it is just perfect. Do you stand by that? Do you stand by those comments? Do you stand by what you've said about the public education system and that it needs to be destroyed? Do you stand by that? Do you understand the concern that people have with this nomination

that you now have? Do you vote in North Carolina? Then keep your eyes on your own paper. Well, let me ask you, I've, I've, I've read, I've read papers over here too. People have with your nomination and the things that you have said, people in New York have concern over North Carolina. Really? Why are they concerned about North Carolina? Do you know that education is a problem in this entire country? So maybe they need to focus on what's going on in your state of New York, which by the way, is where I grew up. Maybe they need to focus on what's going on in California where children are not getting the education that they need. Maybe they need to focus on what they're doing in Michigan. Because right now in North Carolina, I'm focused on helping the families of North Carolina

for their children to get quality education, for them to be safe, and for us to be sure that our money is going into the classroom rather than bureaucracies. That's what I've been focusing on. That's what I've been fighting for for the last five years, going to the General Assembly and dealing with those issues. So that is why I'm running. I understand, but you have said such hurtful things too, in terms of the education system. I have to tell you. About transgender students.

Everyone is so done with the gotcha moment. This is not a gotcha. These are your own words, ma'am. Do you still think Obama should be killed? It's not exactly a gotcha. These are your own words. This has nothing to do with education. You have said that the former president- How do you know those are my words? Because you tweeted. It's not exactly gotcha. These are your own words. This has nothing to do with education. How do you know those are my words? Because you tweeted. Are those not your tweets? Do you deny saying that? You have an opportunity now. Do you deny saying that? Are you denying that you said that in those tweets? I am telling you that I'm going to discuss education. Have you talked about the indoctrination of children by teachers?

I am telling you. have you talked about that? Have you said that about students? Have you seen any of me going to the school board for the last five years? Because you will have my answer. There you go. So listen, ambush journalism, right? Shimon Prokopas, this is someone running for a public office. Shimon Prokopas and CNN have been trying to get a hold of her. They weren't able to. So he ambushes her. What about that? You know, I have a couple different thoughts on this as a general matter, as a general principle. I am not a fan of ambush journalism in the sense that people don't have a responsibility to speak to every journalist that wants to talk to them. I've been in situations at conferences

where people just come up to me and demand I answer questions and they have a camera out and whatever. And I just say, hey, listen, you know, I'm going to my panel. You can ask me for an interview and maybe I'll do it. Maybe I won't. I think there is a little bit of a difference when you have elected officials paid for by taxpayers or candidates to be elected officials paid for by taxpayers, where if indeed they are just refusing to answer questions, does it become more legitimate to try the ambush? Now, I still do think you have to have privacy concerns in mind if you're going to do the ambush in a place where it'll, for example, expose someone's home address or something like that, I think you've got to be careful with that.

There's a sensationalism aspect to the ambush journalism. But I do think that there is a difference between ambushing a celebrity actor with photography and questions or whatever versus a public official or want to be public official who is avoiding speaking to the media despite the fact that they are arguing that they should be in a taxpayer paid for position. So I'm not big on the technique overall when it comes to elected officials and people who are on the taxpayer payroll. I think there's a different situation, but you've still got to be careful about privacy

and ethics concerns. If there's kids around or involved in potential for conflict, all of that should be considered. She didn't seem particularly interested in answering the question. Do you still think Obama should be killed? I would love to get an answer from her at some point about it. Maybe we will. Stormy Daniels in a new documentary expresses concerns that if she didn't take the hush money from Trump delivered to her by Michael Cohen, her his then lawyer, that Trump would have her killed. Is this reasonable? What do people think? Take a listen

to what she had to say. Speaker 4 My friend was like, you might actually have a problem. I don't want to scare you, but based on the things you've told me now, you're the whole Republican Party's problem and they like to make their problems go away. Speaker 1 A recording of Donald Trump made more than a decade ago has surfaced. It is lewd, it is vulgar, and we caution you, you won't want young children to hear it. I'm automatically attracted to beautiful. I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Whatever you want. Grab them by

the pussy. The Access Hollywood tape immediately gave Stormy's story more salience. Hello. How are you? Hi. Mr. Trump, how are you? Nice seeing you. Terrific. The campaign is more sensitive to any kind of news coming out about Trump that's negative.

And so now the National Enquirer, they're very much interested in the Stormy story. When Cohen finds out about her story, he initially goes to David Pecker, hoping that, like, Pecker's going to kill it. And Pecker's like, not this time. You know? No. I was very relieved when Gina started reaching out and offering me the chance to keep it quiet.

I was f I was terrified. I mean, people had been suspiciously killed for political reasons. It was really about two things, trying to keep the story from coming out so that it would not hurt my husband and my daughter and I wouldn't lose my life and that there would be a paper trail and money trail linking me to Donald Trump so that he could not have me killed. So what do you think? Is it beyond Trump? The idea that he would have someone killed. This is so radioactive that I don't even know that I have

or want to give an opinion. I just don't know. I want to hear from you. That's really the main point of putting this forward. Do you think that even for Trump, it would be beyond him to try to have someone killed? And here's what I am comfortable saying. I know Michael Cohen now a little bit. He's been on the show a couple of times. I've been on his show. We've exchanged some we've had some conversations off the show. I really struggle to think he would have been willing to have any involvement if Stormy Daniels didn't take the payoff and signed the NDA. I struggled to think Michael Cohen would have participated in an effort to have Stormy Daniels killed. But would it be beyond Trump? That's the question I'll leave it with Cohen would have participated in an effort to have Stormy Daniels killed.

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the cost of a membership. Let's hear from some of our friends in the audience, the most important people. Without you, I'm a guy in a literally padded room with a microphone talking to no one, which would be very sad. That's why the audience is so important. We do calls on the Friday show via discord. You can join the discord at David Pakman dot com. Let's go next to Peter from Allentown.

Peter from Allentown. Welcome to the program. What's on your mind today? Oh, what are you thinking about? David, can you hear me OK? Yes, I can. Nothing really of current events, but just a thought experiment that I think about a lot while I drive forward, that with all the problems that are occurring in the United States with inequality, equality, and political divide, eventually, in the future, the United States will no longer be an entity. What do you think would be the ultimate cause for the decline and dissolution of the United States as an empire, as a country?

You're saying you expect the United States to end as a country. Is that the premise of the question? Well, I mean, I don't think it will last forever. I mean, eventually, you know, countries change and crumble. I mean, the Roman Empire did not last forever. Speaker 1 You know, the you know, it's interesting you bring that up, Peter, because there's a lot of people who have this perspective, which is all great empires in the past have ultimately fallen and thus someday the United States will also fall. You know, that's possible. Here's the reason I think sometimes those predictions are a bit fraught.

We are entering a different era of homo sapiens in our relationship to structures like governments. And war is less common than it has been arguably ever since nation states have started to exist. Even though there are still violent conflicts, it becomes less and less likely that an individual is going to die in war or violent conflict. I'm call me naive, Peter. I'm open to the idea that maybe we've gotten beyond the stage of civilization at which what happened to the Roman Empire will happen to some modern countries. Now, that being said, forever is a long time. Eventually the sun will swell and will engulf the earth before it will go out and no longer provide us with life sustaining

heat. I mean, right. Like for what are we talking about when we say forever? But I think it's plausible that the United States will be around a thousand years from now, you know, which would already put it in the in the margins of the some of the more longer lasting empire. So I don't know that I accept the premise necessarily. Well, I think about it because people are talking about just with this next election that it could end our democracy. To me, it would just it sounds like we're on the verge of a civil war and, you

know, states are thinking about seceding. Yeah, I mean, I mean, that I mean, makes you want to think, well, gosh, you know, we could we last another 100 years. I know why you're saying that. I understand. I'm going to choose to remain cautiously optimistic that in some form the United States will survive and hopefully it will become a better place, not a dystopian authoritarian nightmare for Trump's wet dreams. That's my hope.

Call me naive. I'll take it. Thanks for taking my call. All right. Peter from Allentown. Great to hear from you. Let's go next to Kara Marie from Utah. Kara Marie from Utah. Welcome to the program. What's on your mind today? Hi, David. Can you hear me OK? Yes, I can. Perfect. I just, um, one, I just want to say thank you for all you do. I watch your show and I am a huge fan. So important thing. Um, I have family who are hardcore Trumpers, hard time, even just discussing anything with them, politics, anything. I guess I just wanted to ask, do you have any advice for those of us who refuse to give up on our never Trump or families? Well, let me ask you this. Do they live in Utah like you do? Yes. So here's the thing. The stakes are a little different because this election,

like almost all of them recently, is going to come down almost certainly to under half a million votes in a handful of states. And Utah is not one of those states. OK, Donald Trump is going to win Utah. And so I think for you, the stakes aren't. Wow. This group of five, 10, 20 people quite literally could decide who the next president is. They're not going to. Now, that doesn't mean it doesn't matter. It just means the stakes can be a little different.

So what I would allow myself to be led by in your situation is what sort of relationship do you want to maintain with these folks? You know, when people call and it happens frequently and they say, how should I deal with the folks that are in my family? And it's all about, well, what kind of a relationship do you want to maintain with them? And for me, the best balance continues to be a respectful and empathetic, Socratic method of questioning, asking them why they believe the things they believe, where they got their information rather than attacks or beating people over the head. And by the way, Cara Marie making it clear that if they do start to second guess their

support for Trump, you're not going to make fun of them. You're going to welcome them. You're going to empathize with that and that it's a welcoming environment in which to do it. I think that's the best advice. Thank you. That is fantastic advice. Yes, I really appreciate that.

Very much. Let us know how it goes, OK? Will do. Thank you, David. Thanks, I really appreciate that. Very much. Let us know how it goes, OK? Will do. Thank you, David. Thanks, Karen Marie from Utah. Quite a quite a complicated situation that's going on there, that's for sure. Why don't we stay in Utah for now?

We'll go to Caleb in Utah. Welcome Caleb. What's going on? Hey, David, can you hear me? Yes, I can. Awesome. You'll have to excuse any? Yes, I can. Awesome. You'll have to excuse any background noise. I'm at work.

You're not like running a lathe or anything, are you? No, I'm not. So I don't have that issue. Excellent. So I recently saw your segment about how Biden raised a I don't remember the exact amount of money he raised after the State of the Union. Well, it was, I think, 10 million bucks in the 24 hours after it. And then I think his February fundraising in total was 53 million, which was

before the State of the Union, but still like explosive numbers. Yes. So during your segment discussing his amount after the State of the Union, you talked about briefly about how you didn't really endorse the current campaign financing system we have going on. Yeah. So I was wondering what you thought was a better option or alternative to like our current system that we have for donations. I would like to have a publicly financed system for elections with a hard limit on their duration such that you would be prevented from running campaign ads or doing formally campaign funded events more than a certain

amount of time before the election. I think making the elections more compact and limiting the amount of money rather than who can raise more, saying here's the amount of money that's allowed to be spent. You can spend it however you want. But this this is the limit when it comes to PACs, individual donations, etc. The exact legal structures obviously would have to be worked out. And I'm not pretending to put that forward right now. But that's that's what I would like. And, you know, whenever we do those those fundraising numbers, they're very interesting in that they work as a proxy to

understand voter enthusiasm. But at the same time, it's a completely broken system. So that's why I'm always so conflicted when I do those segments. But I think we need we've got to limit how long the elections can be. We need public financing. We got to get the super PACs out. Obviously, Citizens United was a disaster. But at this point, I think we need a total rework.

The idea of just cancel Citizens United is sort of like cancel Obamacare. It's here. It's part of the infrastructure we have. We really got to rebuild this thing from the ground up. OK, awesome. Thank you. I think that that answered my question. All right. Caleb from Utah. Great to hear from you. Very much appreciate it. Let's see. Where are we going next? How about Susan from it says Boone slash rally. Oh, boy. I'm hearing myself. I think Susan, are you there? I'm here. Can you hear me, Mr. Beckman? Yes, I can. How are you today? I'm doing well. Thank you. I actually had an interesting question.

I'm originally from Raleigh. I moved to North Carolina. Excuse me. I moved to the Boone area a little while ago. I had a question about something that I was thinking about. Do you think if we were to give local businesses in, say, North Carolina, for example, give a tax incentive to say local businesses that prop up that are from North Carolina or headquartered in here, do you think that could help with gentrification or like larger buyouts from companies that are outside of the state or even outside of the country?

I'm not sure I know what you mean. Give a tax credit to small businesses based in North Carolina. Yes. What kind of tax credit against which tax? Oh, I'm sorry. Hello. Yes. Against which tax? I don't know.

You don't know. I'm so sorry. That's OK. Listen, I'm not sure how to answer the question. I think that there's a number of different ways to help small businesses. I do think that tax. All right. I'm going to let you go since it sounds like you turned me up in the background. It's a little bit chaotic, Susan. Let me move on and let me devote a little bit more time to thinking about that tax credit issue and then we'll we'll come back to it. Let's go to Christina from Pittsburgh.

Christina from Pittsburgh. Welcome back to the program. What's going on today? Christina from Pittsburgh, you're on the air, but you've got to select the appropriate audio device in order for us to hear you. And last chance for Christina from Pittsburgh, you are on the air, but due to a self-inflicted audio problem, we are unable to hear you. All right.

And there goes Christina. Let's go to Derek from Boston. The call segment particularly implosive today, I would say. Let's go next to Derek from Boston. Derek, welcome to the program. What is on your mind today? And Derek, you've muted yourself, so, Derek, you need to unmute yourself if we if you want us to have any chance at all in hearing you. All right, and there goes Derek.

Let's go to Patrick from Los Angeles. Patrick from Los Angeles, welcome to the program. What's on your mind today? Please save us from this scourge of audio problems. Speaker 4 Can you hear me? Yes, I can. Speaker 5 a long time and center for a time caller. Thanks for everything you do. I am just so frustrated in people saying that Biden is not in charge because a real leader is not someone who does all the work. They have strong leaders around them who are experts in their field, helping

them do the work. I mean, the idea that, right. And they delegate. And the idea that it's never talked about on normal media, that you don't need to be the brightest person in the room to be in charge. You don't need to be the sharpest tool in the shed to be capable of leading people. It just, it's so apparent that while obviously we need someone much younger in the Oval Office, he's doing just fine. He's getting a lot of stuff done and it just it's really frustrating. So I just want to not only that, I would even go further. Patrick, sometimes it's actually great not to be the smartest person on any particular topic and recognize it because then you're willing to have the humility to go and find

the people that actually do know more than you. And that's what's so dangerous about Trump saying he knows more than the scientists and he knows no more than the generals and he knows more than the doctors and he knows more than the teachers and he knows more than the astronauts. You know the whole thing, right? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, just wanted to share. Thank you. Well said, Patrick from Los Angeles. Very much appreciate that. Why don't we go next to how about Roberto from Italy? Roberto from Italy. Welcome to the program. I think. Welcome back. I think we've heard from you before, if I recall correctly. Speaker 4 Yes, I can. Speaker 5

Yeah, I think I was called some time ago, but actually I did not get to speak to you. So yeah, speaking to you, thank you for accepting my call. My pleasure. I watched the show, actually, even if you know I'm not American, but still, I think it's nice to hear about American politics. I'm also wondering how many Italians there are in your audience. I guess not a lot. Sorry, you were asking what? How many what? How many Italians there are in your audience, I guess not a lot, but sorry, you were asking what? How many what?

How many Italians there are in your audience? Oh, I have no idea. I have no idea. I mean, we have an OK audience from Italy as far as non English speaking European countries. Certainly not the biggest place for us, for our audience. But we have Italian listeners and viewers for sure. That's very interesting. OK, that's very nice. I guess I'll go to my question. So the thing that I was wondering is, you know, from an outside perspective, right, I am Italian. I think before Trump in 2016, we really believed that America could never vote somebody like Trump, right? Because I guess what we were thinking is that American people like the quorum,

American people like presidents that tell the truth. So really, I think nobody expected that the American people could vote for Trump and Trump could win. So it seems that all of a sudden we went from presidents which were very nice, like, I don't know, Reagan or, I don't know, Kennedy, and we went to the possibility of having Trump. So I wonder what has changed in these 30 years? Has the electorate changed a lot? Or did the politician change their behavior and so the electorate then changed. You know, I want to understand because it's such a dramatic change right between before

and now that I really don't understand what went on. Right. It's a great question, Roberto. And the answer is it's really been both. It's been a change to the electorate, in some sense influenced by a change to the elected officials. And in a certain sense, the elected officials have changed as reflective of the changes in the electorate.

I actually have many YouTube segments where I explain exactly this. How did we go from Reagan to Trump? I have a full chapter in my forthcoming book still to be named about exactly this. I call it how things broke. And so it takes about 15 minutes to explain fully. I have a bunch of YouTube clips that explain it. I actually even spoke to Noam Chomsky about it when he was on. It's an excellent question. It's been a slow change. It took 40 or so years, but it's been exactly as disastrous as you point out. And yeah, I have a full book chapter on this and it's something I've explained and it has everything to do with the civil

rights movement. It has everything to do with the so-called war on drugs. Newt Gingrich in the early 90s. Obama. I mean, all of these different points in history played a role in getting the Republican Party to where it is today. And it's a sad state of affairs. And I guess maybe also social media could have an impact on this. Right. Because I guess social media and the social media bubbles and the distortion of the truth, maybe also that has played more recently, for sure. But that's really the last 10 years. This is a 40 or 50 year story, though. So there's a lot more to it. But it's a great question. Very, very interesting. I will. I will definitely read your chapter in your book about

this. I guess I have a second last question, a curiosity that I have. So sometimes we talk about the risk of Trump becoming a dictator, right? Yeah. I know you talked a bit about this, but I actually want to understand how likely you think this is. Of course, I know it's a hard question to to ask, but I wonder really how worried you are about this and how worried you are that actually Trump will manage to break the democratic system in America. And here's the way I would answer this question. I think we need to take the threat extremely seriously. And I remain cautiously optimistic that Trump will fail to do it either because he will lose in November or because at

least enough of our infrastructure will prevent him from becoming the dictator he wants to be. Now, that doesn't mean we ignore the risk, but I am cautiously optimistic he will fail to do so. Speaker 4 OK, that's very nice. Thank you very much, David. Keep up the good work. I really like your show and the way in which you articulate your points. So yeah, keep it up. And thank you for taking my call. All right. Roberto from Italy.

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Let's hear from some more people. It's the Friday show. Let's go to discord at David Pacman dot com slash discord and see what's on the minds of the people. At the end of the day, the people that matter the most. We will go to Jefferson from Texas. Jefferson from Texas. Welcome to the program. What's going on?

I was curious about your thoughts on on the Electoral College and if there is a real possibility for the national interstate or national popular vote interstate compact to become a reality. So two part question. I like it. First part, I am against the Electoral College. I believe we should have a national popular vote. All of the reasons that the popular vote that that the Electoral College was initially installed no longer seemed to me like good reasons to maintain it.

Now, on the national popular vote, Interstate Compact, for people who don't know who this is, this is a way to get around the very steep requirements of a constitutional amendment to get rid of the Electoral College. And the way it would work is as follows. Individual states can apportion their electoral votes however they want. So you could take a state like Ohio. The way it works right now is Ohio gives their electoral votes to whoever wins the popular vote in Ohio for the presidential election.

But Ohio could decide differently. Ohio could say we will give our electoral votes to whoever wins the popular vote nationally. We don't care who wins in Ohio. We care who wins nationally. If you get enough states to do that such that you can assemble the required 270 electoral votes from states choosing to go with the winner of the national popular vote without a constitutional amendment, you have effectively created a national popular vote. Now your question, Jefferson, is a good one, which is can will it happen? Can can we do it?

The problem is the following. The states we already have a bunch of states that have opted in to the national popular vote interstate compact. They don't add up to 270 electoral votes. So in order to get there, we need more states to opt in. And because red states let me put a different way, because Republicans benefit from the Electoral College, it's going to be very tough for to convince red states to opt in. So can it be done? Yes.

Is it the most simple path to a national popular vote? Yes. Do I see it happening imminently? I don't, because it's going to be very hard to convince red states to do something that would hurt Republican candidates. Right. Of course, I think the follow up my follow up to that would be what would be the best way to to approach advocating for it?

I would think that the best way would be to make it clear that because of the way the Electoral College functions, not everybody's vote counts equally. And there are people who who advocate that the Electoral College is really a mechanism for the states to elect the president rather than the people. I personally believe that the people that the president should represent the people then more so the states, primarily because the first three words of the Constitution are we the people. But that's a beautiful that's a beautiful statement. It's not going to convince these these red states. Honestly, here's what I think is the best way to convince them.

It's to say, hey, you know what? The Electoral College has worked in your favor for many elections, but it may not always be that way. And here's why. And maybe we come up with some reasons why it may not be to their advantage indefinitely. We need to make them worried that it will hurt them in order to get them to change it. And I don't know exactly what that case could be. Maybe it's something about demographic changes. I really don't know. But I think you've got to make them believe that it's good for them

to change the system. And the truth is, historically, for the last several decades, it would have been bad for them, not good for them. So I don't know how we do it. Well, it's an ongoing process. Thanks so much, David. All right. Thanks so much, Jefferson from Texas.

Very much appreciate the call. Let's go. Where are we going to go? I'm let's go. Let's try Christina from Pittsburgh again. I'm told that she has fixed her audio. Let's see if we can make the connection. Christina, are we now able to hear you?

Can you hear me now? Yes, I can. We got it working. OK, I think I just forgot that I had it on to push the talk the last time. That's why I know I can hear me. Push to talk is a travesty. I'm glad we fixed it. Yeah.

So I've been on your thing before. We talked about how I work at a very predominantly Republican sports bar. Yes, of course. And you mentioned that the MAGA people don't tip you very well. Yeah. I had actually a different case happen where they actually did tip me pretty well this past Friday. OK, but that doesn't ever happen, really okay but I was super duper busy to begin with and I was walking through in that MAGA table first off I had no idea they were MAGA people because they were the nicest people I had ever met the nicest like usually I can tell that like when they're MAGA people they're they always have their little MAGA hats and

you can just tell okay these people were ISIS people so I'm walking through I don't have time really to like converse with them but I hear them talking to another table which I know that table is a MAGA table because they were regulars and they said and this is based off something Trump said. They said that if Trump's going to be a dictator for one day, they need to get rid of the Democratic Party completely because the Democrats have no idea what they are doing and that Joe Biden, that there should be an age limit because Joe Biden is too old. Right. Unless you make the age limit seventy nine, it would also preclude Trump from being president.

That's the crazy thing. And my boyfriend, like he works at the same place as I do. And we're like, we really have to deal with this constantly. But then as I'm walking by, they look at me and they're like, who are you voting for? I said, do you really want to know who I'm voting for? Yeah. Or if I tell you who I'm voting for, you're going to go elsewhere. And they're like, well, that's because you young kids are so clueless on anything.

But so my question is, is it possible for Trump to actually and on his day one of being a dictator, quote unquote. For him to actually remove a party like that. No, no, no, no. I mean, listen, I don't even know what it means to remove the Democratic Party, but in any sense of the word that I can understand, it's not something that he would be able to do now. So basically, you revealed to them that you would not be voting Trump and they said, oh,

you young people don't know what's going on. So then what was the rest of the conversation? They just started saying how because I'm a Gen Zer started saying that Gen Z are the laziest group of people they ever met. Huh. And they're saying this as you are working and bringing them their food and drinks. Right. Yeah.

As they are not working. Right. They were just sitting there literally drinking alcohol. And I literally was like, well, I work two jobs and I go to college and I live completely on my own and own my own car and still barely make enough money to live. And I said, the reason that I am voting for him when they asked me is I was like, because when I retire in my seven sixties, I don't want to retire in my seventies. First off, like some of them plan to do.

I would like to have some money in my pocket. And what did they say? They're like, that's just bull crap. They're going to take away our guns and take the Democrats are going to take that all away from us. And you're not going to have anything. Oh, man. You know, in the future, Christina, here's an idea for the next one of these, because

these happen all the time. I want you to tell them, hey, you know what? Go and look up the average stock market return when there's a Democrat in the White House versus a Republican. Go look up unemployment when it's a Democrat versus a Republican. Go look up GDP growth. Go look up unemployment when it's a Democrat versus a Republican. Go look up GDP growth. Go look up jobs created. Every single one of those metrics does better under Democrats.

Prove me wrong and come back here. See what they say. Speaker 4 And then our other I have a regular that comes in and he is a Democrat and constantly he'll pull things like that. He'll be like, do you have a brain? And he just sits there and argues with them. He goes, that's why she's he tells me I'm his favorite server because I'm the only one that votes Democratic.

Now how does he tip? He tips very, very well. All right. Glad to hear it. He gets one or two beers and then gives you 100 bucks. Really? Wow. That's that's inspiring stuff.

Well, listen, Christina, you're doing a great job. Say hi to your boyfriend for me and hope all is going well. All right. I will. Thank you. All right. There goes Christina from Pittsburgh working hard, work two jobs in school, dealing with MAGA lunatics.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Really weaponized stuff, I think, is the way that that I would say it. Why don't we go next to Fahim from Florida? Fahim from Florida, welcome to the program. What is on your mind today? What sort of question can I answer for you? Fahim from Florida, you have to accept my invitation. You know, I'm not even going to give the three strikes and you're out, it's we just don't have time for this nonsense.

Let's go next to James from Nevada. James, thank you so much for being a website member as well. I really appreciate that. Yeah, absolutely. Hi, David. Hi. I'm a relatively new listener and I kind of have like a heavy question for you. Please. I'm a parent. Are you? You're a parent, correct? That's true. Okay. I recently and I'm a little nervous. I don't have the details in front of me, but I recently read something very, very upsetting or nerve wracking about climate change. Yep. And I'm wondering, as a parent yourself and you're more informed, you're very, very thoughtful. Does that mean the fact that you are a parent, that you have hope that there is a possibility

we can turn things around? Absolutely. I don't buy into these sort of anti-natalist arguments about there are problems in the world and so we need to stop bringing any children into the world, which, of course, the natural conclusion of would be the dying out of humanity. I think that we do have the potential to solve the problems that we are facing. And the only way we're going to do it is by having children who might be the people that solve it. I think we are essentially conceding. We're just forfeiting. We're losing if we say, and let's give up and not go any further. Now, do I worry that there are specific things that won't be solved by the time that they

affect my daughter and she may have to live with circumstances that in some ways aren't good or aren't what I would want? Absolutely. But I think the way we even have a shot at getting some of these problems, problems fixed is by bringing people into the world who might fix them. That's cool. OK, that's comforting. I appreciate that. Thank you. All right. James from Nevada. Great to hear from you. Very much appreciate it. And on that note, we will end for the day. Not the whole show, just the live calls part. We will take live calls again.

The show continues. Then it's the bonus show. Make sure you check out the new children's book. Think like a voter at David Pakman dot com slash book. Leave a review. Please leave a review. We need those reviews, folks, that I can tell you. We'll take a quick break and be back right after this.

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The ingredients are sourced for nutrient density and absorption. If you want to take ownership of your health, start with AG1, try AG1 and get a free one year supply of vitamin D3 and K2 plus five free AG1 travel packs with your first purchase Let's get into Friday feedback for the week. You can email info at David Pakman dot com. Love to hear from folks. A lot of different topics represented today. notes. YouTube comments or Twitter replies or tick tock comments. The point here being, number one, many ways to participate. And number two, if you're acting like a fool on any of these platforms in reaction to our content, it may end up in the Friday feedback. We start today with F Salazar, who says as a Republican, not of the mega cult, if my vote can't go toward Nikki, then we'll give it to Biden.

No way I will may waste my vote on Trump again. Worthless. Again, we welcome this. Oh, but they don't agree with us on abortion. OK, if they agree with us on attempting to preserve democracy by not giving Donald Trump a vote, we say we have many disagreements, but we agree Trump shouldn't be president. Biden's a better option. Let's vote to make it a reality. We're not going to name and shame. Now, I know that, you know, I've had conversations with Andrew Yang, for example, where when he launched this forward

party, which I think is going nowhere when he launched the forward party and he talked about a coal, a set, a coalition of left and right or something like that. And I asked him, well, what about white supremacists? Do you welcome them? And he said, yeah, I think I would if they agree with rank choice voting and whatever. And he was criticized for it. It's important that there are two different things. On the one hand, there is are we looking to build a coalition that includes white supremacists?

Obviously not, especially myself being Jewish. A separate question is when we know what the two choices are and we know which is best, do we turn away anyone who recognizes one is better than the other? No. And so it's different than I'd like to create a movement where white supremacists are welcome versus you probably believe some wacky things. But if you're going to help us defeat Trump and make Biden president, I'm not checking voter ID at the door asking you what your other views are.

You should vote the right way and you should be welcome to do it. So we want to make sure that we are allowing those former Trump voters to feel welcome and willing to jump and go over to Joe Biden. Etheri Marasha, Etherty Marasha. I don't know how to pronounce this, says my lifelong Republican 72 year old father was impressed by Joe's State of the Union for the first time in the 28 years since turning 18. My vote may not have to cancel his. That's an amazing thing that is to be celebrated. And it is a really, really good

thing to see other messages regarding the 2024 election. D. Win D.C. says I voted for Haley in the primary and will vote Biden in November. Joe Biden is a good man that I happen to have some policy and ideological differences with. However, because Donald Trump has proven to be an unhinged threat to national security, I am willing to put some of the policy issues that I am concerned about aside and vote for Biden in order to preserve democracy and the Constitution. Once we secure the country and we make sure Donald Trump is kept as far away from the White House as possible, then we can go back to having conversations around policy and

elect candidates accordingly. Yeah, you know, I had a conversation with some of my Republican friends recently who are all anti Trump and they say Biden's fine. You know, it's not perfect, but Biden's fine. We'd like lower taxes. I say to them, you know, it would be great to get back to. Nobody's destroying or wanting to destroy democracy. And we can disagree as to what the tax rates should be.

That is a far simpler time and it is far less precarious when it comes to saving and maintaining the basic institutions of our democracy. We did a poll on the David Pakman show YouTube channel. The question was, what is your top policy priority in twenty twenty one hundred and fifty thousand of you voted. This is nuts. One hundred and fifty hundred forty eight thousand of you voted. Two thirds say the most important policy priority. This election is preserving democracy, followed by 14 percent said the economy, eight percent health care, 8 percent immigration and 4 percent foreign policy. This is a good sign overall, although in this particular case, it only represents those

who chose to vote. In our YouTube poll, not scientific, not weighted and adjusted for populations or anything like that. But it is interesting nonetheless. And I think it does reinforce it reinforces that the degree to which Biden may suffer based on people who don't like what he's doing in Gaza, where it's like he's not really doing anything. But that's another story. I think that's a very, very small portion of the electorate. It's me, says why does the Republican National Committee need to pay the legal fees of a self-declared multibillionaire alleged criminal?

Well, they don't need to. They want to. It's that simple. Trump has executed a takeover of the Republican National Committee. They got Ronald McDaniel out. They are now ready, I guess you would say, to become fully Trumpian as if they weren't almost fully Trumpian before. And so it's not that they need to pay Trump's legal fees. It's that they want to pay Trump's legal fees because Trump is putting people who are hardcore Trump ists in charge of the RNC.

It's pathetic what has happened to the Republican Party. You know, I'm not one of these guys who romanticizes the Republican Party of 20 years ago. George W. Bush was horrifying, horrifying. But there was a time where at least on some of these. Around the edges, like, are we going to let the RNC become totally subjugated by one guy who, by the way, has been terrible for us electorally? You weren't seeing that 20 years ago. You were seeing lots of other horrible things, but you weren't you weren't seeing that. Anthony says, I like David Pakman, but he is off on this one. The cost of living is horrible and it simply wasn't that way when Trump was in office. Here's the really important thing to understand.

When we say inflation is down, we're not saying there is deflation. When we say the deficit is down, we're not saying the debt is declining. We're saying it's growing by by at a slower pace. Imagine that I say to you about a kid. He's growing in height more slowly now. You wouldn't expect that kid to be shorter next year. You would expect that kid to have grown less in the next year than in the last. And so in some literal sense, we haven't had deflation here. So when we say inflation came down from eight to three, things aren't getting cheaper.

They're getting more expensive at a slower rate. That's the reality of what we say when we talk about inflation. It's not deflation, which is bad for the economy for other reasons. The good news is that inflation now is very close to the ideal margin of two to three percent, somewhere in that margin. And number two, we have now had periods where wage growth has outpaced inflation. Fox News is now pretending that's bad. But, you know, I haven't said things are cheaper now. I've said prices are increasing more slowly. Doug Vanisdahl wrote in and said to me, you look too young to really understand what you were talking about. So please go and do some real research.

You might MIT. Oh, boy. Like a yeah. Just change your mind. You might just change your mind. Myself. I was glad Trump did not start any wars. W.A.R.

Apostrophe s. No boy. He had world leaders respecting the USA. We, the citizens of this great country, was doing well. I'm not going to comment on the grammar. I don't know why when we get these Trump emails from people who seemingly speak only English, it's such a disaster grammatically. I do not know. I don't want to stereotype or anything like that.

What I can tell you is I've done plenty of research. Looking at the Trump record hasn't changed my mind into thinking it was some miracle. The Trump didn't start wars is really neither here nor there in the sense that Trump did plenty of bombing. Trump did nothing about Russia's occupations in Ukraine. We have the list. It's not the big win that you think it is. When you say that world leaders did not respect the United States as per the Gallup surveys. And there was a time where the economy was doing fine and then a time where when it wasn't

is, I think, the way that I would put it. And the more I study the record, the more I am actually thinking this is the accurate perspective. Lady Gaga, 93, says Haley supporter here who will vote for Joe Biden was a Republican my whole life until the MAGA wing became anti-Ukraine, anti-Western democracy and anti-NATO. I am now an independent. Yeah. You know, many of the Republicans prominently. Mitt Romney and others that are not supporting Trump. It's not that they aren't conservative anymore.

They're still conservative on abortion. They're still conservative on taxes, whatever. It's that they see Trump as a fundamental threat to the institutions of democracy and they see Trump's willingness to abandon strategic and historical allies and sometimes even to laugh in their faces as a bad thing. And on that, I agree with them. I don't agree with them on taxes, on abortion, on a whole host of other issues, but on the importance of preserving alliances, respecting the agreements we enter into ourselves and sticking to our commitments.

I do agree that those things are important. Trump doesn't. MAGA doesn't. And I think that it is a growing trend that we hear from folks like this. It's a good thing. You can email info at David Pakman dot com if you have anything you'd like to say, we have a great bonus show for you today. We are off during the weekend. Just a reminder, I'm not avoiding a story on Sunday. We just don't do shows seven days a week like just about every other show. And a lot of people are angry about this and we will be back on Monday. I look forward to seeing you then.

But the bonus show is going to be coming up long before that