The David Pakman Show - 4/12/24: Trump's plan to prosecute Biden, another attack on American Jews

Episode Date: April 12, 2024

-- On the Show: -- Axios reveals Donald Trump's plan to criminally prosecute Joe Biden if he wins in 2024 -- Donald Trump says Jews who vote for Democrats are mentally ill -- Caller asks about how the right-wing will react if Trump loses again -- Caller points out that Trump supporters don't care that he tried to steal the election -- Caller asks whether the polls can be trusted -- Caller wonders if Robert F. Kennedy Jr is an actor serving as a spoiler candidate -- Caller is dating a Marxist -- Caller asks if Trump supporters care about facts that prove them wrong -- On the Bonus Show: OJ Simpson dead at 76, US to close gun show loophole, even Kari Lake thinks the Arizona abortion ruling goes too far, and much more... 🔥 Kasual App: Get 35% OFF at https://davidpakman.com/kasual 🛡️ Incogni lets you control your personal data! Get 60% off their annual plan: http://incogni.com/pakman 👍 Use code PAKMAN for 10% off the Füm Journey Pack at https://tryfum.com/PAKMAN -- Become a Supporter: http://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/thedavidpakmanshow -- Subscribe to Pakman Live: https://www.youtube.com/pakmanlive -- Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/davidpakmanshow -- Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave us a message at The David Pakman Show Voicemail Line (219)-2DAVIDP

. With the modern Republican party, allegations are often confessions and the allegation that the failed former president Donald Trump has been making for months, if not years, that there is a weaponized justice system targeted at he Trump by Joe Biden, the current president is not only completely without evidence. New reporting suggests that it's actually a confession of what Donald Trump plans to do to Joe Biden if he were to get elected and replace Biden in 2024. Axios reports Trump and Republicans plot a twenty twenty five criminal probe of the Bidens, Bidens plural Republicans impeachment probe of President Biden is unraveling because of a lack of evidence.

But their work could become the basis for federal investigations and even prosecutions of the Biden family. If Trump wins reelection, Axios has learned a source close to the Trump campaign says everything you have seen from the Biden DOJ, you can expect to see from the Trump DOJ. One Trump ally argued there is precedent for a second Trump administration to investigate and prosecute the Bidens, the current federal charges against Donald Trump. Where do you even start with something like this? Number one, the authoritarian framework of Project 2025 is not only at a general federal

level, it is also part of this unflinching desire to get Biden for what Trump claims is Biden seeking the DOJ and I guess the attorney general of New York and I guess the state of Georgia. Right. I mean, you'd have to believe a lot of crazy things. But Trump is alleging Biden is running these investigations and indictments of him. There's no evidence of that. But what does appear to be the case and Trump has alluded to it and now Axios is reporting it directly, is that Trump's plan is to weaponize the Trump DOJ against Joe Biden.

Now understand that, again, Biden's been in elected office for decades. They have nothing on him. It has been the sole focus for some Republican members of the House to find the dirt on Biden. And they haven't even found impropriety by Joe Biden, never mind anything approaching criminality. The witch hunt that Trump claimed was against him and was meritless had merit. The witch hunt against Biden really does appear to be merely a witch hunt, and it has completely fallen through. And it's because the facts and the evidence aren't on the side of those going after Joe Biden.

But it's not going to stop them from trying it. Once again, Catherine Stewart told us Ellie Honig told us all of these folks have told us you have to believe these people when they tell you what they're going to do and they are going to try. It is not going to stop them. And you know what? There's two sides to the James Comer realization that they're not impeaching Biden. Just as a reminder, James Comer has been one of the lead Republicans in the House who has been going on TV and pushing forward this Biden crimes narrative. They're just all of the blockbuster evidence is just barely out of reach. They're about to get it. And he has now Comer has started sending out fundraising emails where he says, listen, the impeachment is not going to happen. Part of why it's not going to happen is Democrats control the Senate.

They would never vote to convict. But the criminal referrals are why I need you to donate to me. And so they're being very clear. If you zoom out, Trump has alluded to it. Comer has said it. And Axios now has been able to report it. They want to remain in control of the House of Representatives in 2025 going forward, and they want to take control of the Senate in 2025 going forward with the idea that they are

going to be able to completely and totally function as an arm to target Biden and his family. This includes criminal referrals, which hopefully a Trump DOJ will carry forward. Now, as far as bogus investigations go, they arguably made a mistake and it was a timing mistake. And again, the Alec, it's all projection. Trump has argued that these indictments came at the time to be most advantageous for Democrats and for Joe Biden. I have argued that that doesn't really make sense. It would have arguably been better if what if Biden was directing Trump's indictments and they wanted to time it to be as useful to Biden's reelection as possible, they would be doing it later. They would be doing it now. They would

be dropping the bombshells over the summer when more voters are paying attention. But again, the idea of timing of this stuff, what Republicans should have done to do more damage to the Biden campaign was launch all of this Biden crime stuff later as well. Republicans seem to have mistakenly started it too early. It's completely petered out like a wet. It's just like a wet noodle. It's collapsed. There's nothing there. Voters are realizing it. So when it comes to timing, Republicans do seem to have made a mistake. So it's a great thing that Axios got the scoop and has published this. At the same time, if you've been paying attention, it's obvious they tried it with the Hillary Clinton email lies and acid washing and bleaching

and swiffering and all of it. The emails, they're going to try it again. What we can hope for is they lose the house and they lose the White House and they lose everything and they have no opportunity and they're in shambles going into 2028. That's what has to happen if we want to make sure that they don't get the opportunity. But they're telling us what they're going to do. We should believe it. Donald Trump suggests that Jewish Americans who vote for Democrats, including for Joe Biden, are mentally ill. They're sick in the head. They need to be examined. We didn't get to this yesterday, but I want to get to it today because the continued. Attacks, but also assertions that to be a real fill in the blank,

real Jews don't vote Democrat, actually, most Jews do vote for Democrats. Jews are one of the most left wing voting blocs in the United States. Here's Trump outside of his plane in Atlanta on Wednesday. I don't know if he was getting on the plane or getting off the plane. Here is Trump saying you need your head examined if you're Jewish and voting for a Democrat. They brought down the rates so fast. We just want to get elected. And it's going to work out just fine. Have you called Netanyahu? Have you spoken to Prime Minister Netanyahu?

Obviously, the White House is issuing a start warning. Do you think that the U.S. is not doing enough to show support for Israel? Or are you going to go? Biden has totally lost control of the Israel situation. He has abandoned Israel. He's totally abandoned Israel. And frankly, you know, he's a low IQ individual. He has no idea where he is and who he's supporting.

He doesn't know if he's supporting the Palestinians, but he knows one thing. He is not supporting Israel. He has abandoned Israel. And any Jewish person that votes for a Democrat or votes for Biden should have their head examined. Have your head examined if you are Jewish and voting for Democrats. So what Trump is saying is most Jewish Americans are mentally ill. Jews are one of if not the goes back and forth with black Americans, the most left leaning,

democratically supporting voting blocs in the United States. And Trump is saying most of them should have their heads examined for mental illness because of the way that they are voting. Now, it's also not lost on me the irony that you have a contingent of the left that says that Joe Biden is a genocidal pro Israeli maniac. And on the other side, half of the electorate believes that Joe Biden is some kind of anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic extremist who doesn't care about Jews here, there or anywhere. Conflicting narrative, certainly, about Joe Biden and Trump insisting you got to have your head examined if you're Jewish and voting for Joe Biden.

Now one other really funny thing. Moments after this, Harris Faulkner pretends that she's never heard Trump say any of this stuff. I'm going to play something for you where Harris Faulkner's guest mentions these things Trump keeps saying about Jews and she goes, what are you even talking about? It happened moments earlier. He said Biden has totally lost Israel on that issue and abandoned Israel. And then he went on to say, if you are Jewish in this country and you vote for him, you need your head examined. That was the full context of that. So Marie,

the way you made it sound was he just willy nilly said it. What he's saying is that, look, this is a problem. They're anti-Israel protests right up until the line in front of Biden's home in Delaware. I mean, the Secret Service holding that perimeter around the president. They're showing up everywhere. The president's handling of the war against Hamas, Israel against Hamas, is costing him dearly. Because, Harris, that's exactly the point. Because he's standing by Israel. No, no, no. I said it's handling. I didn't say it's policy. There's a difference. It's not a support for Israel.

He vacillates. He says he supports Israel and then gives them tons of ammunition. No. And so Arab Americans are saying, you're wrong, Mr. President. The reason there are protesters at every Biden event is because he has continually stood by Israel. He has repeatedly given them advanced weapons, more and more military aid to fight and to prosecute this war against Hamas. He has absolutely stood by Israel. And that's why you see these protesters.

He didn't stand by them with the U.N. He has repeatedly questioned the loyalty. He has repeatedly questioned the loyalty of Jewish Americans. He has said anti-Semitic and offensive things about how Jewish Americans should vote. When? I mean, over and over. Over and over. Donald Trump has said anti-Semitic.

He just did it five minutes ago. He just did it five minutes ago. To each of you. Literally. Literally. Anti-Semitic, anti-Israel, anti all of it. All of it is what we are covering here and we have to get our facts right. I didn't hear what you're talking about, Maria, but what I did hear him do is call Biden out

for not having clear policy or Harris. Faulkner read the comments at the start of this segment. 90 seconds earlier, Harris Faulkner read the comments. Jews who vote for Democrats should have their heads examined. And then the guest mentions it and Harris Faulkner goes, I don't even know what you're talking about. I haven't heard you read the comments. Harris, of course, it goes to the fact that Karis Faulkner would argue, saying that when

Jews vote for Democrats, they're mentally ill. It's not anti-Semitic. It's not anti-Jewish. It's not anti-Jewish. It's not problematic, but it is what it is. It's Trump again, grouping voters in this particular way and then attacking them and saying the only way, listen, excuse me, if black folks are voting for Biden, they don't know what's going on. If Jewish folks are voting for Biden, they don't know what's voting.

They don't know what's going on. And anything short of undying loyalty to Trump signals either some kind of personal failing mental illness or who the hell knows what. This is not the venue. And I think that the guests are learning this. This is not the venue in which you're going to have serious conversations when you refer to something Trump said that was read 90 seconds earlier and the host says, I don't know what you're talking about.

I don't remember. And I don't I didn't see any of that. More of this is going to continue. What the voting groups need to remember as a Jewish American who is planning to vote for Joe Biden rather than Donald Trump. There's nothing mentally ill about recognizing the lies that are being told about Biden and the reality of what Biden offers and looking at it soberly and saying, oh, Biden's obviously the better option. Nothing really mentally ill about that. The David Pakman Show David Pakman dot com. someone local and sparking a random conversation. It's totally free. Or you can sign up for a

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We take calls on the Friday show via discord at David Pakman dot com slash discord. The quality of the calls varies dramatically from week to week through no fault of my own. I want to mention it's just coincidence. Let's start today with Brian from Virginia. Brian from Virginia. Welcome to The David Pakman Show. What's on your mind today? What can I do for you? What have you been thinking about? Hey, can you hear me? Yes, I can. Hey, David, thanks for calling me. I had kind of a topical political question and then just kind of a different question, if I may.

But my first question is just one thing that really honestly scares me is just the potential for, you know know, as we saw in 2021, January 6th, having them having now learned from, you know, whatever their mistakes were. Well, their mistakes. Mistakes as they see them. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. What do you think can be done by like individuals as well as just kind of on a societal platform to mitigate or negate that? Well, listen, there's two different things.

I share your concern that there could be violence from Trump ists if Biden wins. Although if I'm I don't want to be hyperbolic. I also think that as long as law enforcement is prepared, it's going to be OK. That that's my that's my expectation. I think as long as far as law enforcement goes, as long as they are prepared, the amount of hijinks that the Trump supporters will will cause if Biden wins, I think will be controlled in advance as a society. We need to just make it clear that there's no place for that sort of violence. You go and you vote. And if your side wins, great. Now you've got four years to govern. And if your side loses, you lost. Elections have consequences and you don't vote, lose and then go and become violent. And as a society, we need to

really show that it would be shameful behavior to go out and commit acts of violence. And to the extent that people are very much influenced by peer pressure and groupthink, the more that it can be made clear by people on both sides of the aisle, I should mention that there is no place for violence of that kind and that you are going to be ridiculed, socially ostracized. And if you commit a crime, you also might end up being prosecuted and rotting in jail for a while. I think that that is an important part of it. And then, yes, law enforcement has to be prepared as well. But also, Brian, let's not

count our chickens before they hatch, if you know what I mean. And let's first deal with November 5th. If November 5th goes the way we hope it goes, then we'll figure out, OK, what sort of security and plans need to be in place for December and January for both the counting of the electoral votes and the inauguration? And I think law enforcement can be more than well enough prepared. And up, there's kind of how like at the last inauguration, they kind of step things up as a result of January 6th. Yes, they did. And then there's kind of a, I guess, kind of off the wall question.

I know you've said that you're like, I think you've said ethnically and culinarily Jewish, but not religiously. So I'm was I've been raised Christian my whole life, so I've celebrated Christmas. But my family is also, in a lesser lesser degree celebrated Hanukkah. Do you think that's weird or inappropriate for someone who is not like ethnically or religiously Jewish to kind of partake in that? I've been asked this before, and I even have friends who aren't Jewish whose kids hear about Hanukkah in daycare or something, and then they want to light the candles. I don't take any offense to people who aren't Jewish lighting Hanukkah candles or getting each other gifts.

It's just, you know, there's so much going on. Who am I to get offended or upset if some non Jews want to celebrate Hanukkah? You know, it really doesn't make any difference to me. The questions of cultural appropriation or whatever. I just don't care. You know, have at it. Light the candles if you want. All right. That was that was why I thank you so much for talking to me, David. Hope everything's

going well for you. All right. Brian from Virginia. Great to hear from you. Let's go next to I hope I'm pronouncing this correctly. Is it Koji Do from Mississippi? How do you pronounce your name, sir or ma'am? It is Koki toe. Koki toe. Okay, well welcome to the program. Thanks for having me on David. So as an individual from Mississippi, um, come from a Ruby red conservative state, been here my whole life. I noticed there's a bit of a, say an epistemological crisis among the Republican party. It's an inability to accurately come to what the truth is. I've had a lot of conversations with friends and family in regards to January 6th, the fraudulent slate of electors. I've shown them the Eastman memo. I've showed them the

fraudulent slate of electors on the National Archives website. I've showed them Kenneth Chesbrough, Trump's lawyer, pleading guilty to filing these false documents. Jenna Ellis pleading guilty to filing these false documents. I've showed them Mike Pence, say, attesting to the fact that Trump asked him to overturn the results of the election. I've shown them Trump's tweet himself when he said, if Mike Pence comes through for us, we will win the presidency on January 6th. It's no doubt that he illegally attempted to overturn the results of the election. Yet these, yet for some reason, there seems to be a broad percentage of the population that can never accept this happened. And in the condition that it did happen, would support it regardless, because it's not democracy they value. What are we to do in this scenario? How do you converse

with these people? I hate to say it's to a point where it's impossible to change minds, but it sort of appears that way. Yeah, there's two answers to this. There's what do you do on a personal level if you just want to converse with an individual to change their mind? And as I've laid out before, I know some in the audience will say, David, you've said this a thousand times. You ask questions.

How did they come to their beliefs? What beliefs, what what facts would change their minds if they were to be presented? Socratic method of questioning, empathetic listening, all of those things. That's that's at the individual level. Separately, there's the question of what can we do at a population level to deprogram some of these folks such that it will make an electoral difference. I think it's a lost cause from a practical perspective because we only have 50 to 60 percent voter turnout. We are way better off.

And people like Rachel Biddecoffer and other forecasters and political analysts, they all essentially agree with me that as an electoral strategy, sitting around trying to convert people like the ones you're talking about is an inferior strategy to just trying to identify folks who already sort of agree with us but don't plan to vote and explaining to them why it's so critical and important that they do choose to vote. So there's the individual question more about personal choice and personal interactions. There's the electoral strategy part of it. Unfortunately, I think on electoral strategy, as far as 2024 is concerned, we've just got

to go around these people and win despite their presence rather than trying to convince them otherwise, because it's going to be very difficult. All right. And final question, as someone who wants to make a change or difference in the election, would you recommend, say, I know there's a lot of resources for canvassing and donating, say, for example, whether that be to the DNC, Biden directly or phone banking, either through the DNC or Progressive Victory or say the turnout pack. Is there a particular organization that you would recommend for people who want to get involved to help turn out that existing voter base?

You know, there really isn't. I think it's for me, it's always go directly to the campaign. Whatever campaign you want to help will help you phone bank or get involved with door knocking or whatever you want to do. But as far as PACs and political organizations, I wouldn't be able to name any specific ones. All right. Thanks so much for your time. All right. Thank you so much. Very much appreciate the call. Why don't we go next to. Oh, how about Audrey from Central Florida? Audrey from Central Florida.

Welcome to the program. How's it going? It's going well. All right. I'm trying to think of a question I wanted to ask. I guess I would. Speaker 1 Thank you very much. Remember, as we said before, you got to know what you want to ask or don't raise your hand.

We can go back to you a little bit later if you come up with a question. Let's go next to Zach from Korea. Zach from Korea. Welcome to the program. What can I do for you? Yeah. Hi, David. Can you hear me?

Yes, I can. Excuse me. Yeah, in fact, I'm actually also calling from central Florida as well, but have spent about 10 years in Korea recently. Interesting. And I thought I might bring it up because I thought it was quite interesting that it's not been an issue at all as of late.

The topic of Korea, if you remember, actually, when Trump came into office, one of the things he talked about, excuse me, was how Obama told him it was going to be the big issue for him. Right. Yeah. I'm wondering, I mean, I can share some of my insight, but wondering if you had any insight as to why it's not really been an issue this time. Well, this is so interesting, Zach, because one of the things one of the story there were

a bunch of storylines that were really ominous and threatening storylines that we got from Trump in the lead up to the 2020 election. You might recall one of them was if Biden wins, we'll have a 1929 style stock market depression. Instead, we've had all time high after all time high after all time high. Another narrative was that only thanks to Trump, the situation with Kim Jong Un and North Korea simmer down. And it's because Trump was able to go there and have these conversations with Kim Jong Un and they wrote each other love letters and all this stuff. Only because of that have we not had flare ups with North Korea and under Biden.

It'll be a disaster. And in fact, it's been quite the opposite. It's been one of the calmest periods when it comes to North Korean belligerence that we've had in a long time under President Joe Biden. So I don't necessarily have an explanation for it. A lot of what the cycle what I'm curious to hear from you, but it seems to have a sort of cyclical nature with North Korean leadership, where depending on how bad famine gets or depending on what's going on globally, there's flare ups and then we give them food aid and then they kind of back off of their

belligerence a little bit. But at least, you know, without being able to say the stock market's doing well because of Biden or North Korea has been quiet because of Biden, the fear mongering from Trump that it would all implode certainly hasn't happened. Now, why do you think it's been quiet with North Korea? Yeah, it's been quiet with North Korea? Yeah, it's quite interesting. Excuse me. On a side note, it's kind of interesting here in the U.S. anytime when I tell someone that I lived in Korea for a long time, how many people will ask, oh, North or South? It's even possible. So, I mean, it's understandable to a degree that it's

a tiny country on the other side of the world that you know a lot of people aren't going to be too familiar with what's going on there so it makes sense but honestly i think there's just a really unfortunate uh huge misunderstanding in the media here um about what's going on there essentially kind of people ask me all the time too like weren't weren't you afraid living over there? Wasn't it scary being that close to North Korea? But generally the consensus of people in South Korea is that they just kind of just don't really pay much attention to North Korea. Honestly, the Kim Jong-un and the government there is basically just, they just want to be in power and they just want to be left alone. And so long as they're left alone, they're in power and they're happy and

there's not really any problem for them. So, yeah, when they need something, maybe they might stir up, you know, international attention in some way. But honestly, so long as they're left alone, those that are in power are happy and they don't want to. I mean, why would they cause an issue that might cause them to lose their power? Right. That's interesting. And, you know, friends of mine who either have lived in South Korea or have family in South Korea say very much the same thing, which is really nobody on a day to day basis is talking about North Korea nor the Kim family. They're just going about their lives.

That matches up very much with what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, people are, you know, sad that the country is not united. Most people in the South would, I mean, they still consider North Korean people as all the same people, right? They want to be united. A lot of people still have extended family there. So people hope that the situation improves. But I think it's just a situation where there's really just not really much that can be done unless some sort of collapse happens from the inside there. And I think it was basically seen from everyone there at the time that Trump's visit was pretty much not anything but a photo op for Trump.

It was just a photo. Well, they're absolutely. Yeah. Most people there kind of understood it. So. All right. Well, Zach, thank you so much. Really appreciate the call.

All right. Thank you. All right. Zach from Korea. Let's go back to Audrey from central Florida, who I am told now has thought of a question. Remember, folks only request to speak if you have a question. Audrey, do us proud. Let's go. All right. I did want to ask about your opinion on the reliability of polling the last few election cycles? My analysis is that by Election Day, the polling is basically accurate and does reflect the will of the people. The tricky part is that because the elections are so close presidential elections, they come down to sometimes under one percentage point margin in five to six states.

Even polling that's really good and gets us accurately within a two to three margin of error, two to three point margin of error. Its predictive value can be limited because, you know, at the end of the day, if the election comes down to Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia and Arizona, with half a point to one and a half point margins in those states, the polling can all be accurate within a point and a half to two and a half points. And it won't actually predict anything because it just comes down to a tiny margin on Election Day.

Does that make sense? Yeah, for sure. Yes. So that's my view. I mean, the polling is generally accurate, especially when it comes to the national popular vote. But in terms of really confidently telling us what the Electoral College will end up being more difficult because elections are coming down to about half a million votes

in five states. All right. Well, thank you for the answer. All right. Audrey from Central Florida, thank you for the answer. All right. Audrey from Central Florida, thank you for the call. Let's take a very quick break and then we'll go right back to discord and hear from a few more people. So stand by.

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Jenna. All right. Well, welcome to the program, Jenna. Hi. So I have a couple of things. I came in a little bit late. So the other guy from Virginia, I forget his name now, talking about violence. That's actually something that my husband's kind of afraid of, but he's also a veteran,

so everything kind of looks like it could lead to a war to him. But so I actually wanted to talk about something that was from last year's State of the Union, I believe. OK. The when when Biden talked about the the fees and how they had to publish everything up front, so you know what you're paying. Are you talking about medical or credit cards or which fees? Speaker 6 Basically, like everything, like when you go to book a plane ticket or something or like a hotel. Yeah. And then you see the price.

But then when you actually pay, it's like one hundred dollars more. Speaker 1 Oh, price transparency. So like in other words, hotels have a practice of showing you a low room rate, but then there's a mandatory resort fee when you check out and it's like it's just more money. You should really tell me that up front in the room rate. Yeah, exactly. So I immediately thought, oh, my gosh, that's brilliant because, you know, I've traveled a lot.

And now that my family has grown, I have four children, we have to think about, you know, we have to really budget well. So one of the things that I thought of after that was, what if, well, so my question really is, what would you think this would be a good idea? So I had thought of afterwards, what if we went a little bit further and things like when you're watching commercials and that brand power comes up and it's just like the more expensive brands that are, you know, like you're paying for the name. Yeah, they have. Yeah, the special commercials. So what if like products like that? They had to actually. Put their prices.

On those commercials. And what what do you mean mean special brands and special commercials? I don't know what you're talking about. So like when you're watching regular TV or like. Not not like YouTube, but just like regular TV, they have what's called brand power. And so it comes up and there's like a little purple symbol that says brand power and then it's just somebody talking about like swiffer for example or um i'm trying to think of other brand name things but it's just like buy these brand name things instead of the the store brand the generic okay yeah so and you want what the price to be on the screen

yeah well like actual price comparison so like when when commercials come up for like things that you buy on the tv they always publish the price and usually it's like $19.99 or something but with like name brand things they're always more money but they don't tell you why or what the actual price is they just say oh well I'm just gonna use Swiffer as the example but they say like oh oh, Swiffer. WetJet picks up, you know, things with this. Add that. Walmart also has so. Yeah. OK, it's an interesting idea.

I don't know how you would enforce it. Also, a lot of times brands like, for example, when Mercedes is advertising on TV that, you know, they have 30 different vehicles with five different trims. I don't know how you really like get the price up on the screen necessarily. But, Jenna, listen, it's an interesting idea and we do need price transparency. We do need disclosure. I'm all for more information. I just don't know how you enforce or put in place exactly what you're saying, but I'll look into it. Cool. Thank you. All right. Jenna from Virginia.

Great to hear from you. Why don't we try going next to James from D.C.? James from D.C. Welcome to the program. What's on your mind today? Hey, David. Big fan. Thank you.

Appreciate what you do. Thanks. I'd like to hear your thoughts on RFK because from where I stand, he seems to almost have evil intentions. I really can't say he has evil intentions, but what I can tell you are a couple of things. Number one, he has no path to victory for two reasons. He doesn't have enough support and he doesn't have the ballot access. Number two, we covered the video of his New York state director, Rita Palma, essentially saying that RFK campaign shares a goal with Trump's campaign of just denying Biden 270 electoral votes, in which case it would go to the House

of Representatives, which they hope will be controlled by Republicans, which then means they will make Trump president. So the fact that deep down it kind of seems as though the real point here is to get Trump elected, especially as there are rumors that RFK might be in Trump's cabinet if that were to happen. For me, none of it is interesting. I'm voting for Biden. I think that's our best choice.

Got you. Got you. I don't for Biden. I think that's our best choice. Got you. Got you. I don't know how else to say it, you know? Yeah. Do you do you think there's a potential that he's an actor? Like I know people in the right love to accuse politicians and stuff, but it just seems that way. He seems not genuine. You know, I know why you're asking that question. I really don't want to. It's I would be merely speculating and I have no evidence that this is an act of any kind. So I wouldn't be comfortable making that assertion because I don't have any evidence to support that. Oh, fair enough. Thanks again. All right. James from D.C., thank you so much for the call. Very much appreciated. Let's go to Dave from Mesquite, Texas.

Dave from Texas, welcome to the program. What's on your mind today? What can I do for you? Dave from Mesquite, Texas, second chance to accept my invitation here. And he's gone, OK, why don't we go next to oh, I don't know, how about Jen from Massachusetts slash Rhode Island? Jen, welcome back to the program. We've spoken before, right?

Jen, please accept my invitation. We can't drop two in a row. That would be really a grinding the show to a halt. Yes. Hello. Hi. Hi. There we go.

All right. They updated the app and I didn't quite know how to use it. It's been a while. All right. Hi. All right. Long time to speak. Thank you. So, yeah, I moved from Rhode Island to Mass, but I'm working in Rhode Island, so I'm right on the border. Got it. All right. So, yeah, I'll get to it. So I am a Democratic

socialist like you, but I'm not a Democratic socialist. I'm a social Democrat. Totally different thing. Oh, excuse me. All right. All right. Other way around. Sorry. So I am currently in a serious relationship with a very serious Marxist. He's great. He doesn't push it on me or anything. But, you know, meeting more of them and everything. I'm curious, what is your whole take on their desire that they think that, oh, in the next 50 years or so, they'll be able to overthrow capitalism and change the entire system. I'm not going to dash his dreams or anything, but part of me thinks that it's kind of a utopia that's not going to be able to happen. And, you know, I met them. They're all like they're very nice people. I went to an entire convention. They're well educated. They're very passionate. Yeah, but I just I don't quite know what to make of their world. And I was just wondering, what is your whole opinion on, you know, the big like serious

Marxist communist movement that's happening? Well, as a non Marxist and non communist, obviously I'm not in favor of it. Now the predictive question of will there be the downfall of capitalism and the rebuilding of a Marxist or Leninist communist state in the model of maybe the Soviet Union or whatever example does the guy you're dating is he does he say it would be great for it to be like X, Y or Z country or what? What's the what is his ideal? Their ideal is basically after the Russian Revolution, basically the Lenin. Yeah, the Lenin Marxist kind of thing of it that, oh, we won't need cars anymore and we won't need this

anymore. And yes, evidently, like Star Trek isn't even communist enough for them. Star Trek is Stalinist. Well, listen, that, oh, you know, predictions are worth what you pay for them and you're paying zero for this one. I'm very skeptical that in the next 50 years that's going to happen in the next hundred and fifty. Could it happen? Sure. It wouldn't be something I would push for because I think that markets directing resources in a large number

of industries is fine. I don't want the government owning or controlling entire industries and businesses like it's just they're not my values. And I have a video why I'm not a socialist, which also deals with communism and Marxism. And you can check that out as far as the prediction. I mean, listen, we just have to wait and see. I doubt that the United States will have collapsed and been rebuilt in the mode of the post-Russian revolution, Leninist Marxist model. But it's not impossible. We'll just have to wait and see. Speaker 1 Yeah, I just see it as like, how are you going to overthrow this current system when it is so ingrained and, you know, with the government having so much power and everything. Well, sometimes they say it's not that we're going

to overthrow it. It's that it's going to collapse in on itself. So it depends on what their view is. Sometimes they believe it's so unsustainable, it'll just collapse and then they'll get they'll be able to rebuild their communist paradise. But I mean, I'd be shocked if either happened in 50 years. But, you know, when Trump says we will never be a communist country, never is a very long time. What about 150 years? What about 500? What about a thousand?

I don't know. Maybe we will. Yeah, I guess. Oh, hey, real quick. I actually left. I was able to travel the country for the first time last August and happened to be in Spain at the same time as you. Oh, is that right?

Where in Spain did you go? Sevilla. And how'd you like it? Oh, God, I loved it. We went to Marseille right before that. But I rather Spain a little bit more, even though it was like one hundred and six degrees. Yeah. When I was in Madrid in August, it was like ninety seven every day. It was crazy. I was in their train station. I think that was the one with the big jungle inside of it. I didn't go to the train station, but I'll take your word for that. But just so hot, but beautiful country, high quality of life. Yes. And those green conures everywhere that

evidently the locals hate. I call them a plague. All right. Well, great to hear from you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Take care. Why don't we go next to Jay from Detroit? Jay from Detroit. Welcome to the program. What's on your mind today? Jay, welcome, please. Your turn to speak. Hey, David, how are you doing? Well.

So listen, I wanted to ask you about something I've I've had on my mind for a while now. OK, I've been concerned for a while that Russia and Saudi Arabia, who may have a political interest in seeing Trump victorious over Biden, may reduce oil production or exports to otherwise inflate oil prices in the U.S. with the strategic intention of increasing the price of gasoline right before the presidential election. As of early March, both countries have already extended production cuts through the end of the second quarter. And the price of gasoline in my area has risen about

60 cents over the last few months, maybe since the beginning of the year. How much of a problem is this, in your opinion? Speaker 1 You know, I think that the I haven't looked at what you're telling me, but I I accept that you're right on the facts. My instinct is that it is going to have in the let's say they're trying to do exactly what you're saying for exactly the reasons that you're saying. I think the effect on gas prices will be relatively limited and the impact of gas prices alone, if inflation is otherwise stable, is going to be limited. And if inflation is otherwise stable, it's not going to change the bigger picture that if the economy looks more or less like it looks today, it's a pretty good economy.

And presidents tend to get reelected when the economy is pretty good. So it's sort of like even granting everything you're saying, which I haven't looked into. I don't think that it alone is what the election is going to hinge on. That's my instinct. Speaker 3 I hope you're right. For the record, Axios had a great article in early March that kind of delved into this a little bit. I guess the second part of my question would be also, is there room on the show for a deep

dive into foreign economic influences like this one? There is absolutely room. I mean, it's almost too big of a topic to make into one segment. But let me look into it and then we'll see what we can do. Great. Thanks for your time. It was good speaking with you. All right.

Jay from Detroit. Great to hear from you. And by the way, Jay, also a website member, which I very, very much appreciate. Let's go to Chris from Kansas City. Chris from Kansas City. What's on your mind today? What's going on? Chris from Kansas City, welcome to the program.

What's on your mind today? Sorry about that. I didn't accept the call. How are you? Good. How are you? All. How are you? Doing all right. Just a couple questions. One's regarding voting in general, and that Trump's done and everything that has sort of transpired since that election kind of gives me pause when I see the polling numbers. I have a hard time sort of quantifying why the polling numbers for Trump are so high.

And it makes me feel like something's wrong with the polling. But it also makes me think that maybe I'm misunderstanding how polling is done. And maybe it's just me trying to rectify the strange, you know, high numbers that Trump gets. So I was hoping maybe you could clarify maybe how polling is done and why his numbers are so high. So how polling is done, you can just read the methodology at the bottom of every poll. Every poll is done a little bit differently.

So I would direct you there as far as that goes. In terms of why Trump's numbers are so high. Depends who you want to listen to. You know, folks like Rachel Biddecoffer are saying that the intentions of voters come November just aren't reflected yet because only 15 or so percent of the country is actually paying attention to the election at this point in time. I think that number is probably a little bit low, but I do think that there are lots of folks sort of toying with the idea of voting third party who ultimately aren't going to. But if we really zoom out, part of the reason Trump's numbers are so high is there is a large share of Americans who are not in this on both sides now who aren't influenced by what is actually happening on the ground. They have just decided

which team they are supporting. And it's basically that is it. And so it's a it's an unfortunate reality. Chris, it's so loud where you are that I'm going to let you go just because it's it's it's not it's not the best. But unfortunately, a large portion of the electorate does not care what the facts on the ground are. They are either voting Trump or voting Biden exists on both sides. I would argue that it is more logical to vote for Biden based on what's actually taken place. That's my personal view. And of course, it's biased. But that's that's where I would put it. Let's go to a break. Sorry, I didn't get to everyone, but we will take calls again. Breaking a deeply ingrained habit is one of the toughest things to do. Our sponsor, Fume, can make it easier.

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You never know what is going to be featured on Friday. Feedback. Let's start with our favorite Facebooker. It is Max Shaz who continues, who continues to brutally assault me and says, David, you disrespected President Trump and mocked him. We the people are tired of this. You owe him and the American people an apology. We have determined that these messages from Max are not satirical.

We've researched Max a little bit and he is serious when he says this stuff. What I would say to Trump. So Max wants me to apologize to Trump. I would say to Trump, he has he is the one who owes the American people an apology after making a mockery of the presidency and the Oval Office and our Democratic institutions. It is he and those who voted for him, maybe including Max, who really need to be out there and apologizing. Give me a break, Max. Very, very disconnected from reality. That's for sure. A lot of comments about my new children's book. Think like a voter, which I have right here.

Logan says, are eight year olds voting now? Nice detail on the girls red hat front with a big yellow star surrounded by four smaller stars. So first of all, there is no yellow stars. They're white. I don't know what is special about that detail. What I will tell you is that, of course, the book isn't for kids because eight year olds vote. The book is for kids because too many eight year olds by the time

they're 18 don't even have any idea why it's so important to vote and to engage the political process. So, yes, I am targeting kids who aren't being taught by their parents or educators about how we choose our leaders, why it's so important, how to have a say and a stake in the democratic process. It's not because eight year olds are voting. It's because someday eight year olds will vote, but not if we wait until they're 20 before we tell them about voting. So that's the reason why. Now, a lot of other messages about the book Maddie wrote in and said, think like a voter from the guy who wanted to remove a political candidate off a ballot for a crime he was not found guilty of with charges brought by people who don't have the authority to enforce

the amendment. So I think what Maddie is referring to are the cases seeking to remove Trump from ballots for having engaged in insurrection. Now, you could say I wanted to remove Trump, but more accurate would be to say what I actually said, which is Trump certainly meets the definition of having incited an insurrection. But I would rather just beat him by voting if if you objectively say to me, did he do the thing that he's accused of? He did. It's not about crime.

You're not required to be found guilty of a crime to be removed from the ballot for violating the 14th Amendment. So Maddie doesn't understand the law. Maddie doesn't understand what I said and that he doesn't understand my opinion. But I will be clear. My preference would be to just beat Trump. I said all along, we're not going to beat Trump by getting him off the ballot. We're going to beat Trump by defeating him at the ballot box. And that continues to be my view. Family Love wrote in about the books and said, Thank you, David, for your wonderful books, introducing children to the processes of critical thinking. I'm a grandmother with my own collection

of some wonderful children's books. I'm proud to say your first two books are already part of my collection and I can't wait to buy this new one. Please keep up your wonderful work, David. Well, thank you so much. And of course, you can get the books at David Pakman dot com slash book. Brian wrote in on TikTok and says, can you explain why student debt forgiveness is a good thing for the nation? Free education is one thing, but this is another. Yeah, it's a it's a totally fair question. The economic multiplier of student loan debt forgiveness is quite high. I've talked about this before. I don't want to bore people because this has been coming up so much. But just as a reminder, taxes, tax cuts for the rich,

the money overwhelmingly just goes into a bank account. Low economic multiplier doesn't do that much for the economy. On the other hand, food stamps have a high economic multiplier. Food stamps go to people who really need them. Those folks are going to spend that money. They go into their local store, supports jobs at the supermarket, supports the jobs of the suppliers to the supermarket. High economic multiplier for giving student loan debt, in particular for

folks who are struggling to make their student loan payments, has a very high economic multiplier because you're shifting that dollar amount from going to banks as interest to being kept by people who need the money and are almost certainly going to spend it in their local communities. They'll spend it at local businesses. They'll spend it at local businesses. They'll spend it at local restaurants. And so it's good for the country to take a bunch of money that was going to pay interest at banks and instead say, keep it injected into your local economy.

It's good for the economy. Now, there's another aspect to this, which is that there's this cycle and we've talked about it before many times where the cost of college continues to increase in part in part because colleges can get away with it because student loan money is so easy to access and we need to do something to push down the cost of college. Now, paying off student loan debt is not necessarily going to achieve that. But if we can do that, in addition to maybe saying it's not going to be quite so easy to get unlimited student loan money for any degree, although there's controversial, there's two sides to this.

Maybe it can be the start of a more serious conversation about how to push down the cost of higher education. Not a guarantee, but there are a lot of ways in which student loan debt relief is good for the country. Our Latha Pappas says we're all just exhausted from Donald's chaos. Even those who pretend not to want Biden have to appreciate his calming presence. You know, they don't are Letha or Letha. There are lots of folks who don't see Biden as calming.

They see him as incompetent or demented or not really in charge. Or, you know, you can really see whatever you want when you're committed to seeing whatever you want when you're committed to seeing whatever you want. I happen to agree that there couldn't be a starker contrast between the sober way in which Biden has executed the office of the presidency with absolutely no scandals. There's no scandals. Oh, but what about the criminal bribery? Yeah, there's no evidence of that.

Oh, but what about the impeachbery? Yeah, there's no evidence of that. Oh, but what about the impeachable offenses? They've still found none. There is a major difference, black and white between Biden and Trump. But there are people who see Trump as a pseudo deity and they would vote for him three, four. They would make him president for life if it were up to them. So it's up to us to make sure that the folks that don't want to see it aren't in the majority. And the way we do that is by voting in November. Fun comparison asks on the subreddit, who's Trump's favorite dictator and which one does he want to be like the most?

I think it's a tie between Hitler and Kim Jong Un. What do you guys think? No. You know, Trump is enamored with with dictators and authoritarian strongmen. I think Trump would love to be a blend of Xi and Putin. He seems most impressed by Xi and Putin for different reasons. With Putin, he seems impressed at the way everyone really acts impressed with Putin because they're scared. And Trump really seems to be fascinated by that, riveted by it, you could even say. So I think Putin's high on Trump's list. And then with Xi, he loves how she executes this brutal law enforcement paradigm where he talks about quick trials and the death penalty for drug dealers, which Trump seemingly

would love to do so. I know about the Hitler speeches on Trump's nightstand, according to one of Trump's ex wives. I know about the love letters with Kim Jong Un, but I don't think he's as impressed with Kim Jong Un. He's impressed with Kim Jong Un, but I don't think he's as impressed with Kim Jong Un. He's impressed with Kim Jong Un as look at what this young guy has done. But he genuinely seems just smitten, smitten with Putin and Chinese President Xi. If you disagree with me, let me know. And lastly, here is a viewer who is reacting to my horror about Trump by saying and Biden doesn't horrify you, please. God forbid he gets us in another conflict and bows down to those bullies pushing us around.

We need strong leadership. The world's watching and Biden's like the girl next door. Sweet, but no backbone. Again, I don't know what conflicts Biden, quote, got us into. And I don't know which leaders Biden is, quote, bowing down to. In fact, even with the allegation that he's bowing down to Netanyahu, the last week of news certainly doesn't suggest that that's the case. Getting on the phone and saying you've got to do a ceasefire, you've got to let Gaza aid through pushing for more Gaza aid. And now the IDF says the invasion has been suspended. I don't see Biden being pushed around by anybody. And if you were, I would certainly tell you. So another confused Trump supporter. But remember, you can be confused and vote. You can have a completely backwards sort of moral framework and vote. And so the only way we

make sure that these folks don't end up putting their guy in power is we have to make sure that we vote. We have a fantastic bonus show for you today. You can sign up at join Pacman dot com and get instant access. And remember that all of the children's books, including the newest one,..... . . . . .

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