The David Pakman Show - 5/20/24: Trump freezes during NRA speech, Giuliani served at birthday party

Episode Date: May 20, 2024

-- On the Show: -- A deep dive into the total lack of whistleblowers about Joe Biden's supposed lack of involvement in his own administration and claims about his cognitive states -- Democratic Congre...sswoman Jasmine Crockett ridicules Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene's "butch body" after Greene goes after her "fake eyelashes" in a Congressional hearing gone wrong -- Republican Congressman Byron Donald's wildly suggests without evidence that President Joe Biden receives "injections" to hide his dementia -- Actor Terrence Howard has a strange mental breakdown on the Joe Rogan show, presenting a baseless hypothesis about the periodic table of elements in which some elements have bisexual "tones" -- Rudy Giuliani is finally served his indictment papers during his 80th birthday party in a dramatic turn of events -- Republican Congresswoman Elise Stefanik loses it when confronted with her own prior statement that Donald Trump is a "whack job" -- Donald Trump appears to silently freeze for 35 seconds during a speech in Dallas, Texas in a scary moment -- Donald Trump almost falls off stage during an absurd, scary rally speech in St. Paul, Minnesota -- Donald Trump ultimately will not testify in his first criminal trial because the testimony from his former lawyer Michael Cohen is obviously true -- Voicemail caller calls David out for dying his hair, which David does not do -- On the Bonus Show: Iran's President killed in helicopter crash, Paul Pelosi's attacker sentenced for 30 years in prison, "Stop the Steal" symbol displayed at SCOTUS Justice Samuel Alito's house, much more... 🌱 Ounce of Hope: Get a THC Seltzer for just $5 at https://ounceofhope.com 🥂 ZBiotics: Use code PAKMAN for 15% OFF at https://sponsr.is/zbiotics_pakman_0324 🔊 Babbel language learning: Get up to 60% OFF at https://babbel.com/pakman 👍 Use code PAKMAN for 10% off the Füm Journey Pack at https://tryfum.com/PAKMAN 💻 Get Private Internet Access for 83% OFF + 4 months free at https://www.piavpn.com/David -- Become a Supporter: https://davidpakman.com/membership/ -- Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/thedavidpakmanshow -- Subscribe to Pakman Live: https://www.youtube.com/pakmanlive -- Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/davidpakmanshow -- Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow

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Starting point is 00:00:00 . Well, here we are, everybody. Hope you had a good weekend. You know, if I said to you the phrase bleach blonde, bad built butch body, you might assume that it was part of either. I don't know, an old episode of Jerry Springer or maybe some kind of satirical show. But it's actually a phrase that was uttered during a congressional hearing. And it was a reference to radical and repugnant reactionary Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene after Greene invoked the physical appearance of Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett and referring to her fake
Starting point is 00:00:45 eyelashes. And there's a couple of important points that I think need to be made here, the biggest of which is about the degrading and debasing of the political discourse of which both Democrats and Republicans are a part. I think it should be said, but primarily driven by the race to the bottom that has been MAGA Trump ism. So let's start. I don't know, I guess at the beginning, because there's no better place to start.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Axios has a little write up about what happened. Taylor Greene and Crockett's personal appearance fallout spills into a fourth day. And it explains how there were hearings about there were hearings during which during which a lot of the focus and discussion became physical appearance. I'll play the beginning for you here, which is where Marjorie Taylor Greene refers to the alleged fake eyelashes of Jasmine Crockett as getting in the way of her being able to see what's going on. And then you may also hear someone in the background say, is that a porn star? And I think that that might have been Congressman Goldman, although I'm not totally sure.
Starting point is 00:01:57 I'd like to know if any of the Democrats on this committee are employing Judge Mershon's daughter. Please tell me what that has to do with Mary Garland. Is she a porn star? Oh, Goldman. That's right. He's advising. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:17 He's advising who? Do you know what we're here for? You know we're here about AG. I don't think you know what you're here for. Speaker 6 Well, you want talking about I think your fake eyelashes are messing up. Speaker 1 Oh, I know. Speaker 6 OK, so not that we need to referee this childish spat, but this was the opening of the door to comments about physical appearance. OK, so now a lot of people go low during this, some in more humorous ways than others. But this is objectively the start of the physical
Starting point is 00:02:49 appearance barbs. Mr. Chairman, even more of your committee order. I do have a point of order and I would like to move to to take down Miss Green's words. That is absolutely unacceptable. So this is now AOC. Well, how dare you attack the physical appearance of another person. Move her words down. Oh, girl, baby girl. Oh, really? Don't even play. Baby girl?
Starting point is 00:03:16 We are going to move and we're going to take your words down. I second that motion. So who will have to pay? Ms. Green agrees to talk her words. I believe she. No, no, no. OK, so. So this was the initial thing.
Starting point is 00:03:32 And then sort of like an indirect thing from Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, who asked a hypothetical question. Would you be allowed to say that someone has a bleach blonde, bad built, butch body, which, of course, refers to Mark? I'm trying to be like a sort of fair describer. It's a reference, if you're not familiar to Marjorie Taylor Greene's physical appearance, which I guess comes at the hands of some combination of genetics and CrossFit. I don't know. But this is the way that Jasmine Crockett, obviously, she's referring to Marjorie Taylor Greene, but posing it as a hypothetical.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Miss Greene, for four minutes and 21 seconds. Mr. Chair, point of order. It's me. Ms. Crockett. I'm just curious, just to better understand your ruling, if someone on this committee then starts talking about somebody's bleached, blonde, bad-built, butch body, that would not be engaging in personalities, correct?
Starting point is 00:04:23 A what now? Chairman, I make a motion to strike those words. I don't think that's a part of it. I'm trying to find clarification on what. It's like what words. It's a point of order. That's the funny part about it. Chairman, motion to strike those words.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I have no idea what you just said. We're not going to do this. Look, you guys earlier literally just said. You just voted to do it. I did it first. So you don't you guys earlier. Literally, you just voted to do it. I'm trying to get clarification. Look at calm down. Calm down. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Because this is what I do. I'm sorry. You're not right. All right. So anyway, the point here was this was an attack on Marjorie Taylor Greene's physical appearance. It is childish. It's certainly far more clever than referring to fake eyelashes, I will tell you. So there is a bigger point
Starting point is 00:05:08 that I want to make here. It's a serious point. But before doing that, just to follow this through the hilarity that it is, I actually decided to produce a song about this because the phrase bleach blonde, bad built, butch body is so alliterative and perfect from a artistic standpoint. I produced a little song over the weekend. It's called Bleach Blonde, Bad Built Butch Body. Let me play it for you. This is debuting now. This is serious now. We created this over the weekend. Take a listen. Marjorie, you're sad to see what you please. Stick with it.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Yep. Right. Marjorie. Oh, Marjorie. OK, so. So that could be the song of the summer. I think that down in Aruba and the US Virgin Islands, British Virgin Islands, on all of the little waterfront bars, that's what they're going to be listening to. So listen, on both sides, personal attacks like these represent the degradation of political discourse. And when lawmakers result to childish insults during hearings paid for by my tax money and your tax money rather than substantive debate, it's bad. At the same time, we shouldn't both sides this thing, because the reason we got here, the reason we have
Starting point is 00:07:07 fake eyelashes and butch bodies distracting from the real issues in part is the degree to which MAGA Trump ism has gotten us away from real issues. And case in point at the hearing, even before the eyelash butch body stuff started, Marjorie Taylor Greene was asking, does anyone on the committee employ Judge Juan Merchan's daughter? That's the judge in the Trump criminal trial who judge says and conflicted. And she's being Trump's lapdog by going out and suggesting the very things Trump was told to stop saying because of the gag order. So even the presence of Marjorie Taylor Greene there is really the degradation.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Now, if we want to play it down the middle, you can argue what Jasmine Crockett did, albeit much more clever, is also going down, going low. OK, and I would be there with you to say that that's true to some degree. But we have gotten completely off base here with regard to exchanges that distract from the real issues. We should be focusing on policy and the mere presence of MAGA Trump ism in our political system is the main problem. Can you say Jasmine Crockett deserves some blame for what she did?
Starting point is 00:08:15 Sure. But she's really only stooping down to her. Marjorie Taylor Greene pulled her. And at the end of the day, it was just a point of order. It was a hypothetical question. If someone were to say something like bad bill, bleach, blonde, butch body, would that be a problem given what Marjorie Taylor Greene said is apparently OK? Ugly stuff. But it's MAGA that pulled us down there. All right. What sort of injection could President Joe Biden be getting to hide his dementia?
Starting point is 00:08:43 That's the medical question we will seek to answer in this segment. And I believe that it is time to do this because these right wingers just won't stop. Here's yet another example of Congressman Byron Donald's, a Trump loving Republican on Fox News, completely baselessly, recklessly suggesting to Maria Bartiromo that Joe Biden is getting injections to appear coherent. Let's take this seriously for a moment. Here's what Byron Donald's had to say. Then I'll tell you what the truth of the matter is. OK, so what did you see when you were at the State of the Union? You heard what your colleague Greg Murphy said. He's the head of the doctor's caucus. He says, quote, Joe Biden was jacked up. Now you've got President
Starting point is 00:09:27 Trump saying he wants drug testing. Should there be drug testing before these debates? Marie, I'll tell you, I absolutely agree with that. There should. You could tell that Joe Biden comes in, he's jacked up. And then as the hour goes by, he slowly winds down. So the American people need to understand if they're giving him some injection so that he can actually look like he's coherent and he's with us. All right. So that's the that's the allegation without evidence. He's jacked up. And then during an hour period, he winds down and we need to know what sort of injection he might be getting. Now, first of all, slowly winding down is kind of normal, right? Like as speeches and days go on, you get tired. It's not
Starting point is 00:10:12 a crazy smoking gun. If after a 90 minute speech, your energy is lower than at the beginning of a 90 minute speech. But let's put that aside for a second. There aren't an unlimited number of substances that could be given to Joe Biden. Now, put aside for a second that many of these would be taken orally. They wouldn't even be injected. Let's just generally talk about what could Joe Biden be receiving stimulants. Right. You've got your Adderall and your Ritalin and drugs typically prescribed for ADHD. They increase alertness. Sometimes they're used for study drugs in college. They increase attention. They increase in energy level. They last four to six hours. Adderall's four to six hours. Ritalin's three to five. So even if Joe Biden were taking
Starting point is 00:11:00 such a stimulant, there's no reason that after a 60 or 90 minute speech, it would be wearing off because they last three, four, five, six hours. In addition, stimulants don't improve cognitive function in people with dementia. So. All right. So the idea is stimulants. Also, I don't know why it would be injected. You normally take these orally. Doesn't make any sense. And by the way, you risk anxiety and agitation because in a lot of people, these drugs generate a sense of anxiety, agitation and jitteriness. So you risk Joe Biden actually coming off less coherent if the point is you're trying to make him more coherent. So, OK, the stimulants, not a likely candidate. What about nootropics, nootropics like modafinil. Nootropics are substances that claim to enhance cognitive
Starting point is 00:11:48 function like executive function or creativity. Usually those last 12 to 15 hours. There's no reason it would wear off during an hour the way Byron Donald's is suggesting. And again, nootropics don't address underlying dementia pathology. If that's what you're trying to cover with a nootropic, they can't conceal or reverse the sort of cognitive deficits that they claim Biden has. You then have I hope I pronounced this correctly. It's colon, ester, race inhibitors. These are drugs like don't a puzzle and rivastim mean.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I'm sure these are abortive pronunciations, but these are often prescribed to manage symptoms of Alzheimer's disease. They have very long half lives. The Nepezel has a half life of 70 hours. One of the other ones is 10 hours. So these effects last a really long time, but they're they're extremely mild. They wouldn't jack you up with the energy that they claim Joe Biden is jacked up on. And then beyond this, we're in like super speculative stuff, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:58 like the bottom. What about ginkgo biloba stuff that's not at all proven antipsychotics, which wouldn't improve cognitive function? So the most plausible thing is coffee. Is coffee the cognitive smoking gun? Now we're banking on coffee being the dementia hiding super drug that is being injected so that you jack up Joe Biden. And of course, the effects of caffeine usually start 15, 20 minutes after consumption. They can last three to five hours. The half life
Starting point is 00:13:31 is like five hours. And usually the peak effects last one or two hours. Caffeine doesn't impact cognitive impairments caused by dementia. Caffeine temporarily causes an increase in alertness and can make you feel less tired. So the bottom line here is even if we want to seriously deal with what they are suggesting without evidence that Joe Biden is being injected with something, there really isn't a something that would do what they say it is doing. So it's time for them to stop the reckless speculation. We should look at what the actual mental health experts are saying. And they've been very clear. Donald Trump's behavior is far more disturbing than Joe Biden's when it comes to cognitive state. Monday is Memorial Day. We are doing our first of the year and first of the new website membership drive.
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Starting point is 00:18:23 sent to me. There was a very interesting in some sense episode of the Joe Rogan program the other day with an actor named Terrence Howard. I am going to play a clip for you during which Terrence Howard has a mental crash, the likes of which I don't remember seeing on any recent program of any kind, even considering Donald Trump's recent statements. But it is something that many people are hearing and saying this guy is absolutely brilliant. And this goes to a broader and important point that I write about in my forthcoming book, The Echo Machine. Yes, the title of the book has been changed. It
Starting point is 00:18:56 is now called The Echo Machine. I'll tell you more about it when we get closer, which is that there are certain kinds of conversations that are absolutely impossible to have if we don't start from a common understanding of some basic facts. And this goes beyond politics. This is just really an extreme example. They're talking about the periodic table of elements. Terrence Howard has ideas about the periodic table. It relates to the noise that different elements make. He says that there are elements by elements. I don't mean like elements of medical the way Trump talks about. I'm talking about, you know, boron and plutonium and carbon. Some elements make bisexual noises. You're probably saying, David, what the
Starting point is 00:19:37 are you talking about? But they make a bisexual noise. What do you like? Neon is neon's gay. What are you talking about? That's exactly right. So I'm going to play this for you. It is difficult to listen to. But my main point here is thousands of people saw what I'm about to play for you and said, this guy's brilliant. This is why we can't just listen to the scientists, because this guy's brilliant. Let's let's dive into this. Get the popcorn out. It's Walter Russell's periodic table that he put together. Now you compare that to what we meant. Middle middle layoff, middle layoffs, periodic table. You'll compare Walter Russell's to it and you'll see something completely different. It's unwinding. Whoa. It's unwinding.
Starting point is 00:20:26 All right. So he starts to explain this whole thing about the real periodic table. And then we get into what I would consider some of the wackiest stuff. One substance. Now, the problem is the first thing that we're able to perceive is hydrogen that's the first visible element because before it is too dense for us to perceive it you understand what i'm saying okay but as you reach into the next octave the carbon octave and they call that the a bisexual tone because the carbon has two tones to it. It has a negative side and a positive side, the part where lithium behaves. Right. I mean, this is an interesting question.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Which are the bisexual elements? Which are the gay elements? Are there lesbian elements? Do any elements transition? These are not things that are well understood by the scientific world because they make no sense whatsoever. This is what I showed this to chemistry people and I showed this to mental health people. The chemistry people said to me, David, there is not even a vague overlap between this entire thing that Rogan's going. Interesting, man. Interesting. There's not even a vague overlap to reality from a chemistry standpoint. And the mental health people I showed it to said this. This is very serious. This is you might classify without diagnosing. You might classify this as severe mental illness if someone
Starting point is 00:22:04 presented in your office and and said this stuff. Let let's listen to a little bit more of it. And it only gets wackier. I mean, can it really get wackier than bisexual elements? Oxygen, that's why it's it. And what they've tried to keep from us, if you have you want to break water into its component parts of hydrogen and oxygen, all you have to do is introduce beryllium or the sound of beryllium.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And oxygen will violently. I once heard beryllium make a racist comment and it almost caused a black hole. Break away from any other thing, even hydrogen, to bond with that beryllium. And now you can have it just with the frequency of it. And since the hydrogen is smaller. So it just goes on like this. I mean, I have other clips. I don't even know if it makes sense to play a lot of these. But but it on every topic, it was two and a half hours of this time for a new laptop you know oh wait sorry this is this is the wrong one here we go the lie if you're right so many people are wrong everyone's wrong oh well the universe the universe backs me up and i have the proof of it you have all these physicists that's saying
Starting point is 00:23:19 something different but none of them have 97. None of them have introduced a new form of flight with unlimited midair bonding. So listen, you know, a lot of mental health professionals, I showed this to said this often is like, you know, I don't even want to get into it because it's just like we should we shouldn't be diagnosing. But the point is, this would be often like the way people speak when they are in and ultimately medicated by psychiatry, which I'm sure Terrence Howard has a vision of and an opinion about as well. You can't solve problems or figure things out with people who disagree about the fundamental nature of reality. Now, this is an extreme opinion, right? This is different than,
Starting point is 00:23:59 hey, you know what? You think low taxes make more sense. I think higher taxes make more sense. In fact, often with those sorts of conversations, you can ultimately come to a shared understanding on 90 percent of stuff. And then the last 10 percent is just about opinion or ethics or what you think is right or what you think. So there actually is a lot of space to work with people with whom we disagree about conclusions to solve problems. That is actually possible. But in between that, like disagreements about tax policy and this is a large area where you really can't deal with these people. A lot of MAGA is beyond just we disagree about what tax
Starting point is 00:24:40 rates should be. It's beyond that. It's more here. And so when we talk about we've lost a shared basis, not only of what the facts are, but what count as facts. I assure you that on some of this stuff, Terrence Howard believes that he's talking about facts rather than assertions for which one probably couldn't even find evidence or couldn't even really describe what the evidence would be. I mean, listen, some of the elements make a bisexual noise. What? What? How would we even say let's agree how we would determine the home, the homosexuality or heterosexuality
Starting point is 00:25:20 or bisexuality of the of the tone generated by oxygen. Right. We we wouldn't even get to that. And so the point here is to take this extreme example of a guy who sounds like he's really going through some stuff to say that if we are going to solve some of the biggest problems that we are dealing with right now and move forward as a as a as a species, we're going to need to get people together where at least we have a common and shared understanding of reality as a mere starting point. And even that won't guarantee success, which is pretty disappointing and scary to think about. Rudy Giuliani has finally been served the indictment papers. It happened at his own birthday party. Rudy Giuliani has really become the truest example of what happens
Starting point is 00:26:09 when you sacrifice reason to become a Trump loyalist. Everything bad happens. Now, you might remember that last week I told you that they had not yet found the they hadn't yet turned over, submitted, preserved is the word I'm looking for. They hadn't yet served the indictment papers to Rudy Giuliani out of Arizona because they couldn't get access to him. They showed up at his house and security. The doormen didn't let them up to Rudy Giuliani's house. And it seemed as though maybe Rudy Giuliani was just going to run out the clock.
Starting point is 00:26:40 But no, they found him at Rudy Giuliani's 80th birthday party. This is wild. NBC News says Rudy Giuliani is served indictment papers at his own birthday party after mocking Arizona attorney general. He this is, of course, in connection with the alleged conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election results. Two hours earlier, Rudy Giuliani was taunting the Arizona attorney general, Chris Mays, for failing to deliver the indictment. Just two hours later at Rudy's birthday celebration in Palm Beach, Florida, for his 80th birthday, the indictment was delivered. Rudy had posted this on X. If Arizona authorities can't find me by tomorrow morning. They must dismiss the indictment. They must concede they can't count votes. And he subsequently deleted that after it was served. So the wheels of justice with Rudy Giuliani will start to turn a legacy that has been ruined by criminal indictments
Starting point is 00:27:41 and financial destruction. And Rudy Giuliani's fall from grace. I mean, listen, America's mayor, not a guy I love, but undeniable that in the aftermath of 9-11 and in general, overseeing what is perceived to be crime reduction in New York City, if it's because of anything Rudy did is a different question. He was extremely favorably viewed even by many Democrats for a decade. And now a fall from grace associating himself inextricably with Donald Trump, although Donald Trump has essentially abandoned him. It is all caught up with him at this point in time. And the fact that the indictment caught up with Rudy reminds us that no one is above the law, even those who believe themselves to be untouchable. So the underlying story here, the ongoing chaos, the legal troubles within Trump's inner circle. And there is a picture being painted here of
Starting point is 00:28:37 disarray and scandal, even among Trump's closest allies, even among people he met, not doesn't necessarily speak to anymore. So they got him. They got the indictment. Rudy has been formally served. We will now see what comes next. And honestly, I don't even know if the guy has any money left at this point. We're going to look now at something that took place on Fox News with Republican Congresswoman Elise Stefanik. Elise Stefanik is a big Trump suck up, but she hasn't always been. And in fact, there are prior reports about her referring to Donald Trump previously as a whack job and insulting to women during the 2016 campaign. Well, Elise Stefanik went on Fox News yesterday and Shannon Bream mentions to her, you previously
Starting point is 00:29:23 called Trump a whack job. You said he was insulting to women. But then now you're one of the big Trump supporters that there is. And Elise Stefanik did not like it. But there's a really interesting takeaway here, which I will explain in a moment. Take a look. Leadership. Want to talk to you about the veep stakes.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Your name is continually thrown out as being on the shortlist list potentially that this trip may be part of an audition. The New York Times had a lengthy piece where they talk about your transformation. They say from somebody who was not supportive of President Trump to somebody who is full-throatedly supportive of him. They say you called him a whack job at one point. They add this. In August 2015, she told a New York radio station that he was insulting to women and that his candidacy would hurt the party's efforts to attract female voters. According to her former friends, they continue, she thought Mr. Trump was too awful and ridiculous to be taken seriously. Her revisionism still shocks those who have known her the longest and who remember the disdain she expressed for Mr. Trump back then. So the question is when, more importantly, why did you change your mind about
Starting point is 00:30:25 President Trump? Well, Shannon, it's a disgrace that you would quote the New York Times with nameless, faceless, false sources. But they're calling you a friend, so I'm giving you a chance to respond to that. No, no, no, Shannon, Shannon, they're not quoting my friends. Those names are not included because they are false smears. I was attacked as the only Republican from, no, Shannon, just to be fair, there are a number of names. No, Shannon. People. Just to be fair, there are a number of names. This is fantastic. People who are quoted in the article. Shannon, let me correct you. People can read it for themselves. This is a false smear. And let me tell you, let me tell you a fact, Shannon. In 2016, I was attacked as the only elected Republican from the Northeast who voted for President Trump.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Democrats spent hundreds of thousands of dollars attacking me for that fact. So to say that I didn't support him is just false. I have been proud to be one of the strongest supporters going back to when he ran for 2016 was which was when it was my first reelection to the House. I have strongly supported him. He is going to be the next president. The United States, the American people know that my constituents know that. So she really didn't like this. She really didn't like this. And it's not just the least the panic, but it is many Republicans who originally expressed what I honestly think are their real views about Trump.
Starting point is 00:31:33 They're disgusted by him. And then eventually they kiss the ring when he becomes the nominee, when he becomes the center of Republican power. This is not a serious political party at this point in time. And this incident really reminds us of the fear that Republicans have of crossing Trump. And it just reconfirms the influence that he has within the Republican Party. Yes, 40 percent of Republican primary voters voted against the guy. Many voters don't like him. But the elected officials, with very few exceptions, Romney, Kinzinger, you know, a few of these
Starting point is 00:32:02 guys and gals, Liz Cheney and others, with very few exceptions, theyney, Kinzinger, you know, a few of these guys and gals, Liz Cheney and others with very few exceptions. They don't want to be on the wrong side of what they perceive to be the power centers of the party. And they rightly perceive that to be Trump. The defensive reaction from Elise Stefanik is interesting because it's a damage control reaction. It's there are internal conflicts and insecurities here. But I need to be on the right side of my relationship with Donald Trump and the power dynamics at play are serious. She knows she must conform to party lines, even if she has to contradict past past statements or to put it a different way.
Starting point is 00:32:39 She would rather be seen as a hypocrite who said one thing but probably didn't mean it changed her mind. Now she's friends with Trump. She would rather be seen as a spineless hypocrite than to be on the wrong side of Trump at any given time. And there are many examples of this. I mean, listen, even Romney, who now is against Trump, Romney was very much against Trump. Then he thought, hey, he might make me secretary of state. He went and had lunch with President Elect Trump in 2016. They had frogs legs and turtle soup or whoever knows the hell what. Then it seemed actually you're not going to get secretary of state.
Starting point is 00:33:13 And slowly Romney turned back against Trump. Lindsey Graham was a strong critic of Trump's in the 2016 primaries. He called them a race baiting, xenophobic, whatever. And then Lindsey Graham became one of the biggest supporters of Trump. Ted Cruz, Trump said Ted Cruz's wife is ugly. And Ted Cruz denounced him and eventually got behind him. So this is the theme here. The theme is they ultimately get in line because they don't want to be on the wrong side of power. And the power for now and for the foreseeable future within that party connects to Donald Trump and Elise Stefanik indignant, indignant
Starting point is 00:33:53 that prior reporting about her with sourcing about things she allegedly said would be brought up on Fox News, no less so. You know, we give them a little pat on the back at Fox News. At least Shannon Bream didn't back down. Good for her as far as that goes. Wildly triggering Elise Stefanik. Many people in the audience know I speak multiple languages. I first learned Spanish when I was born in Argentina. Then I learned English. I learned some Hebrew in Hebrew school. I learned French in junior and high school. I am no stranger to the language learning process. And one of the most useful tools I've ever used is the app called Babbel. The way our sponsor Babbel teaches you languages truly works and it works fast. Instead of a bunch of silly quizzes and games like a lot of the other apps, Babbel is designed by real people for real conversations. All of Babbel's tips and tools for learning a new language are approachable. They're rooted in real life situations and conversations. Babbel's bite
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Starting point is 00:37:37 He doesn't know his kids names. He doesn't know his wife's name. And they have been going over and over and over these talking points so many times over the last year. The very first year he became president, it was obvious he was in rapid decline. Brain dead Biden brings us our video of the day during a campaign speech in Las Vegas. He regaled everyone with a story about sitting down with Francois Mitterrand just a few years ago. But Mitterrand has been dead since 1996. To be fair, that might be the same year Joe lost consciousness. And we have a man who's absolutely the worst president in the history of our country. Can't put two sentences together. Now, what's going on here
Starting point is 00:38:15 is that Republicans would prefer not to debate the substance of Joe Biden's extraordinary policy achievements, and they would prefer not to deal with the fact that their presumptive nominee is facing 88 criminal charges. So instead, they are running with Biden's demented, desperately hoping that it will be enough to distract Americans from what actually matters. Now, setting aside that Biden and Trump are essentially the same age, there are well documented signs of Trump exhibiting symptoms of gross dementia as Dr. John Gartner and Dr. Harry Siegel have explained on our show. But it's not just Dr. John Gartner and Dr. Harry Siegel.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Dozens of former cabinet officials for Donald Donald Trump have come forward to express concerns that Trump is unfit to serve as president of the United States for a second term. Start with Mark Milley, Donald Trump's former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, responding to Trump's suggestion that Milley should be put to death. Milley went after Trump as the wannabe dictator that he is. We don't take an oath to a country. We don't take an oath to a tribe. We don't take an oath to a religion. We don't take an oath to a king or a queen or a tyrant or a dictator. And we don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator. Joe Biden's chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Charles Q. Brown,
Starting point is 00:39:39 has not expressed any concerns about President Joe Biden. William Barr served as Donald Trump's attorney general in 2023. He called Trump a consummate narcissist. He is a consummate narcissist and he constantly engages in reckless conduct that that puts his political followers at risk and the conservative and Republican agenda at risk. Would he put the country at risk if he was in the White House again? He will always put his own interests and gratifying his own ego ahead of everything else, including the country's interests. There's no question about it. This is a perfect example of that. He's like, you know, he's like a nine year old defiant nine year old kid who's always pushing the glass toward the edge of the table, defying his parents to stop him from doing it. It's a means of self-assertion
Starting point is 00:40:25 and exerting his dominance over other people. And he's a very petty individual who will always put his interests ahead of the country's. Barr has also referred to Donald Trump as despicable. To me, it's amazing that you read through the indictment and his behavior in that indictment, and it's nauseating. It's despicable behavior, whether it's criminal or not. Someone who engaged in that kind of bullying about a process that is fundamental to our system and to our self-government shouldn't be anywhere near the Oval Office. Despite these harsh words, Barr recently came forward to confirm he will vote for Trump in November, proving what we already knew. He is a doormat of a man. So just to be clear, you're voting for someone who you believe
Starting point is 00:41:10 tried to subvert the peaceful transfer of power that can't even achieve his own policies, that lied about the election even after his attorney general told him that the election wasn't stolen. And as the former chief law enforcement in this country, you're going to vote for someone who is facing 88 criminal counts. Well, look, the 88 criminal counts, a lot of those are, and I've said- Even if 10 of them are accurate. The answer to the question is yes, I'm supporting. I'm supporting the Republican ticket.
Starting point is 00:41:41 But can you say that you're voting for Donald Trump? Because you're not saying his name. You just say you're supporting the Republican ticket. I've said, that you're Donald Trump because you're not saying his name. You just say you're supporting the Republican ticket. I've said I as between Biden and Trump, I will vote for Trump. But this doesn't diminish the significance of his previous condemnations of the guy he worked for. On the other hand, Joe Biden's attorney general, Merrick Garland, has not called Biden a consummate narcissist, nor has he expressed any concerns about Biden as president.
Starting point is 00:42:04 We then come to John Bolton, Donald Trump's national security advisor. At one point, Bolton has characterized Trump as stunningly uninformed. You wrote the president was not just uninformed, but stunningly uninformed. Can you give us some examples? Well, there were things that we went over again and again and again that just didn't seem to sink in. Like, why was the Korean Peninsula partitioned in 1945 at the end of World War II? And what did that lead to? And how did we get to that point? You say in the book that Trump asked General John Kelly if Finland was part of Russia. He said those things, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:42:42 And when you're dealing with somebody who asks questions like that, it's very hard to know how to proceed. Joe Biden's national security advisor, Jake Sullivan, has never referred to Biden as stunningly uninformed and has not blown the whistle about any aspect of Joe Biden. We then come to Mike Pence, Trump's very own former vice president, who says that Trump asked him to put Trump over the American constitution. President Trump was wrong. He was wrong then. He's wrong now. I had no right to overturn the election and more and more Americans are coming up to me
Starting point is 00:43:16 every day and recognizing that. And, and for my part, I'm running for president in part because, frankly, President Trump asked me to put him over the Constitution that day. But I chose the Constitution and I always will. He has also now said that he will not endorse Donald Trump. It should come as no surprise that I will not be endorsing Donald Trump this year. Joe Biden's vice president, Kamala Harris, has never said that Biden asked her to put him over the Constitution. Now, let me be very clear. This is not an exhaustive list. There are dozens of other examples of former high level Trump administration officials who have since come forward to say
Starting point is 00:43:56 he is dangerous and he is unfit to serve. It is an extraordinarily long list and it ranges from James Mattis and Mark Esper. We mentioned Mark Milley, Trump's first secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, Nikki Haley, Chris Christie, H.R. McMaster, John Kelly, Mick Mulvaney. I could go on and on and on. There is a report from the Brookings Institution that shows that Trump's rate of turnover was 92 percent, shattering historical records. So the first question is, how do the Trump supporters contend with this? Because even those who support Trump would have to admit that at the very least,
Starting point is 00:44:39 he's a terrible judge of character, given that so many of his own former associates turned against him. But more importantly, we have to think about the flip side. If any of the allegations about Joe Biden were true, Biden's dementia, Biden's not really running anything. He doesn't know what's going on. He doesn't know who Jill Biden is. He doesn't know anything. He can't do anything. If it were true that he was just a shell of a person doing nothing and knowing nothing. Why has there not been a single person from Joe Biden's inner circle or even like the next circle around that that has blown the whistle, confirming even a single one of these allegations? Trump has boasted he only hires top top people and would fill his administration with the best, most serious people. If that's true, I guess we should listen to what Trump's former hires have said and heed their warning. Don't reelect Trump in 2024. As many of you no doubt know,
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Starting point is 00:47:01 Donald Trump spoke to the National Rifle Association convention the other day, already just outrageous that he would even speak to that group. But a really scary moment. We've never seen this happen to Trump before. Trump appeared to freeze on stage for thirty five seconds when the QAnon music started. Trump rose and he seemed completely unable to speak. Some people reacted by saying he's doing it for effect. He has never, never frozen for thirty five seconds.
Starting point is 00:47:32 This has not been extended or exaggerated in any way. You'll hear the music start and Trump freezes, some calling it a terrifying, terrifying cognitive moment. Nation in the history of the world. Speaker 1 But now we are in. Even Mitch McConnell only froze a few seconds. And for people suggesting that Trump's teleprompter was glitching regular Trump when his teleprompter glitches, which, of course, you can see teleprompter there. Biden's bad for using a prompter. Obama was bad. Trump's using a teleprompter.
Starting point is 00:48:45 For those who were suggesting it was glitching, normal Trump wouldn't do nothing for 35 seconds. He would rant about the teleprompter or he would rant about something else. This is something very strange. It's not what happened to Mitch McConnell, but is very strange. And it got stranger. I have to tell you, Trump seemed confused at one point and was referring to himself in the third person while reading the prompter. And he said, says President Trump. This is really, really bad. I'm going to dig in. Yes. Oh, yes. And quickly, says President Trump. Yes. Oh, yes. And quickly again, what is he reading notes? Where is he saying, says President Trump? Where is he getting that from? It doesn't make any sense. Now,
Starting point is 00:49:33 more substantively and terrifyingly, Trump says he is going to appoint really young, extreme MAGA judges if he becomes president. This is what I've been trying to tell you. Then I called up my people and I said, I have a guy from New York who's an incredible lawyer, has got the right temperament to be a really great judge. Oh, good, sir. How old is he? I said, he's 69, sir. So he's going to be there for two, three, four years.
Starting point is 00:50:02 We like people in their thirties. So they're there for 50 years or 40 years. We don't want. And as soon as they said that, I realized, yeah, they're. So listen, this is what I've been explaining to Trump. What he did with the Supreme Court in his first term and the eventual overturning of Roe v. Wade is only the beginning. And if Trump gets four more years, he is he's going to go out and find 20 something year old judges to stuff into the judiciary. They will block progress for decades. Terrifying.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Yet another reason to make sure this guy doesn't get another four years. Trump wildly suggested that he's healthier and a better physical specimen than former President Obama. And before I introduce him, I just want to say when he was the doctor at the White House, they asked him who's healthier, who's a better physical specimen. Is it Trump or is it Obama? And he said, it's not even close. It's Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Not even close. Does's Donald Trump. Not even close. Does anyone believe that Obama? Very, very difficult to believe. And then lastly, continuing with his dictatorial wet dream fantasy, Trump suggesting two or three terms. What do people think? FDR 16 years, almost 16 years. He was four term. I don't know. Are we going to be considered three term or two term? You tell me, Ronnie, what do you think? Now it's hard to tell whether Trump is confused or speaking out his dictatorial dreams or
Starting point is 00:51:38 just referring to the idea that he's currently in his second term. Or maybe it's alluding to the idea that Trump actually won in 2020, which he didn't, meaning he won in his mind where he is a legend. He won in 2016, 2020, and he might win in 2024. Therefore, in a sense, it would be his third term, but only the second one he serves with Trump. It's increasingly difficult to know when is he confused, when is he lying and when is he just ignorant to facts? And sometimes the answer is yes to all three. So a disastrous, scary cognitive situation in Dallas at the NRA convention. And it was almost worse in Minnesota after saying previously
Starting point is 00:52:20 that if he loses Minnesota, he will never go back to the state and losing Minnesota and going back to the state and claiming he actually won it. Donald Trump gave a speech in St. Paul over the weekend and he almost fell off the stage. He. Listen, I don't I don't really know where to start with this stuff, but let's start with Trump saying he wants to debate Biden, but he needs Biden to be drug tested. Let's start there. Now, I have fake tappers. They said I just want to debate this guy. But, you know, and I'm going to I'm going to demand a drug test, too, by the way. I am. No, I really am. I don't want him coming in like the State of the Union.
Starting point is 00:53:11 He was high as a kite. I said, is that Joe up there? A beautiful rope. There is, of course, no evidence that Joe Biden was high as a kite during the State of the Union. Earlier in the show, we already spoke about what could you even take and what would the effects be? And then moments later, Trump almost fell down. I it's you know, you can't write this stuff. He'll suggest Biden's on drugs because he can barely stand up. And then Trump almost falls down. And then he blames, I guess, whoever
Starting point is 00:53:42 set up the lectern. And you know, the reason this is happening, right? It's because Trump puts his full weight on these lecterns. Terrible. But Americans are not struggling. You know, this is the worst platform. Who put this stage up? It is the way the frickin place is falling down. I notice it keeps tilting further left. Like too many other things.
Starting point is 00:54:14 All right. So Trump almost falling down and off the stage completely, which would have been a wild, wild situation. Trump made a strange claim during his speech in Minneapolis and in St. Paul, rather, where he said that if it weren't for him having been president for four years, Minneapolis would not exist today, which is a really crazy thing to suggest. Let's listen. You didn't have me as president. You wouldn't have Minneapolis today and you wouldn't have had a couple of other cities that we saved or little beautiful areas that we saved. We saved them for you.
Starting point is 00:54:50 But what? Yep. Thanks to Trump, Minneapolis exists today. Donald Trump not yet ready to retire the anti transgender weightlifting routine at the rally where he pretends to be. I don't ever I always forget with whether he's referring to an and a trans or non trans weightlifter when he does this routine. But it's pretty despicable regardless. Speaker 5 Mom, I don't know, Mom, this is good. This is a heavy sucker.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Oh, Mom, I can't do the former president of the United States, ladies and gentlemen. And then lastly, a dump of a word salad where Trump says we are going to withhold the powers and the beauty of our Second Amendment. I thought he liked the Second Amendment. Why on earth would he withhold it from people? This is just a word salad. Trump's lost in the teleprompter. I will fully uphold our great but very under siege Second Amendment.
Starting point is 00:55:51 We're going to with withhold the powers and the beauty of our Second Amendment. We need our Second Amendment probably more than we've ever needed it before. It's under siege. Tomorrow I go to Texas, I go to Dallas and I'm speaking before the NRA. There's a rumor, which is, of course, disgusting. So I don't know what that means. Trump will withhold the beauty of the Second Amendment. So quite a weekend.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Trump first freezing for thirty five seconds and also at a different speech, almost falling off the stage. But it's Biden that needs to be drug tested before their debate. Pretty wild stuff. All right. Let's talk a little bit about the latest going on legally. There's a very interesting article with the opinion from an attorney that Donald Trump has no plausible response to Michael Cohen's evidence presented at his criminal trial.
Starting point is 00:56:41 And thus, that is why Donald Trump is not going to be testifying at trial in his own defense. So let's talk through this a little bit. As a reminder, this is the New York hush money trial. Michael Cohen did testify under oath and made a number of very damaging assertions about Donald Trump with regard to the crimes he's accused of. The out of court denials have insisted that Michael Cohen is just a liar. Trump has insisted many times that he will testify. There is every reason to believe that Trump is not going to testify because he never does. And one of the main reasons is that there is no plausible alternative theory to explain away the testimony of Michael Cohen,
Starting point is 00:57:24 not to mention that Donald Trump would be under oath and it would be risky to show up and simply lie. So what are we talking about here? One of the possibilities, if you believe Michael Cohen is making up the entire story, is you put Trump on the stand and you have him tell a different version of events which directly contradicts contradicts the assertions made by Michael Cohen. There are a couple of problems with that. Number one, Trump testifying at all is risky because he thinks he's smarter than everybody and he can lie without anybody noticing. But then Trump would be subject to cross examination. And when the prosecutors get up there and they expose Trump's lying about everything, it's a real problem for him. And then more generically, you can argue
Starting point is 00:58:09 it would not be a great thing for Trump to just be lying uncontrollably under oath. So, of course, it is going to be a situation where Trump ends up not testifying and they don't even have an alternative theory of events. If they had an alternative theory of events rather than a case built simply on trying to suggest the prosecution's witnesses are dishonest, they could put forward a different version of events. Court is going on right now. The X. We'll see if this happens. But the expectation is that the defense is going to rest without even putting forward any detailed alternative explanation of events because they don't actually have one. So my expectation here is that Trump
Starting point is 00:58:51 ultimately will be found guilty here. If you compare his alleged actions, as told by witnesses under oath with the law, it seems that he committed a crime. He will be found guilty, but the sentence will be almost nothing. It'll probably be within sentencing guidelines, but it'll be at the absolute lightest end. It'll be some kind of slap on the wrist to those of us who have been following the blatant and scofflaw style criminality of this guy. And then we will move on to the next criminal trial and see if there will be any real consequences here. So this is interesting in terms of future cases in the following sense. This case showcases Trump's legal vulnerabilities, which are
Starting point is 00:59:39 he doesn't really have alternative explanations for what it was that he did. And if you have mounting evidence and I don't even think this is the most powerful case against Trump, Georgia will be an interesting one. If you have mountains of evidence against Trump and Trump's defense is only trying to impeach witnesses and the motivations of the prosecutors and he can't provide any alternative storyline, it's going to get pretty difficult for a jury to acquit him. And so this is a signal about the potential liabilities of this approach for Trump going forward.
Starting point is 01:00:17 So let's see if the defense rests. But I would be I would bet any amount of money that Trump doesn't testify. We have a voicemail number. That number is two one nine two. David P. Here's a very strange call from a guy who believes that I am dying my hair. Wow. Hey, David, why do you have such a weird hair dye? Like are you that insecure?
Starting point is 01:00:39 Like where like like like why you dyeing your hair jet black? It doesn't match your skin color, doesn't match your beard. And it's just cringe. Like why you look like a fucking weirdo or at best like you have the biggest insecurities in the world. So I would like you to address like your terrible hair dye please on your podcast because it looks atrocious. Well, listen, this is not about hair dye.
Starting point is 01:01:05 This is about lighting. And I have never dyed my hair. The allegation that it's jet black is wrong. And if I move around, as you can see, it's actually not even really dark, dark brown. I think it's just the lighting. And as far as not matching my beard, it matches my beard. It's just my beard is so pathetically thin that it looks like the beard is lighter. But listen, I'll tell you right now,
Starting point is 01:01:30 if my hair just went gray right now at my current age, I absolutely would diet. I don't want to have gray hair right now. But fortunately, it's not something that I'm dealing with. And we've had these things over the years where there was a while where people with two people were writing in regularly saying, David, I can tell that you're drinking and that you're drinking before getting on the show. I can see that your eyes are glassy. And of course, at the time I said, listen, I have like at the most one drink a week. And then it's a David, you know, a lot of people who are alcoholics, they denial is the first step. So there was the the glassy eyed drinking allegations. There were the David, you you really seem to be struggling with drugs right now. I can tell from your red eyes.
Starting point is 01:02:13 These are mostly lighting and my skin just, you know, I don't know, like my eyes sometimes like look red, I guess. I don't know. So I will alert you when I start dying my hair. Rest assured. But it is not something that is going on at this point in time. Monday Memorial Day. It is the one and only.
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