The David Pakman Show - 5/9/24: Worm ate RFK's brain, Biden goes for it on job creation
Episode Date: May 9, 2024-- On the Show: -- Dr. Elizabeth Landsverk, dementia and Alzheimer's disease expert, joins David to discuss cognitive concerns about former President Donald Trump and President Joe Biden with regard t...o their age and brain function -- President Joe Biden is on the offensive against Donald Trump on the issue of jobs on the heels of a major announcement about an AI center on the site of Trump's failed Foxconn deal -- Republican Speaker of the House Mike Johnson feels that illegal immigrants are voting in elections, despite acknowledging there is no proof -- A worm at a part of Robert F. Kennedy Jr's brain a few years ago, but his campaign says it will not affect his ability to be President -- Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene's attempt to remove MAGA Mike Johnson from being Speaker of the House fails miserably, with Republicans booing her relentlessly -- After a disastrous week of failed PR for her book, Republican South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem starts canceling her television appearances -- A confused Donald Trump asks for help at Mar-a-Lago when asked whether his campaign can accept cryptocurrency donations -- Donald Trump openly celebrates the criminal rioters from January 6 at a bizarre event -- Voicemail caller is in hysterics over RFK Jr. having a literal brain worm -- On the Bonus Show: Georgia appeals court grants Trump's request to consider Fani Willis disqualification, Taliban affirms stoning as punishment for adultery, most FTX customers will get all their money back, much more... 💪 Athletic Greens is offering FREE year-supply of Vitamin D at https://athleticgreens.com/pakman 🪒 Henson Shaving: Use code PAKMAN for FREE blades at https://hensonshaving.com/pakman 🖥️ Malwarebytes: Get 50% OFF with code PAKMAN at https://malwarebytes.com/pakman -- Become a Supporter: http://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/thedavidpakmanshow -- Subscribe to Pakman Live: https://www.youtube.com/pakmanlive -- Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/davidpakmanshow -- Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave us a message at The David Pakman Show Voicemail Line (219)-2DAVIDP
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I want to start today by talking about jobs. We both have some sort of tepid news about jobs today
and also some extraordinarily good news about jobs related directly to the Biden administration.
And I think it's important to keep in mind that when you have a record of very high
level of job creation, at some point it's going to slow down. This is sort of the way the economy
works. And there is a lot of focus being put on an apparently negative headline that I think is
very important to contextualize. So let's let's take a look at this kind of in pieces. First and foremost, weekly jobless claims have jumped to two hundred and thirty one
thousand.
And this is the highest since August.
Now a lot of this, remember, is in the way you write a headline.
The numbers are jobless claims total to seasonally adjusted two hundred and thirty one thousand
for the week ending last week.
That's up twenty two thousand from the week before and the highest
number since August 2023. Now, bear in mind that that's about the last nine months. And President
Joe Biden has now been president for more than three years. So there is a lot being made out of.
Oh, this is the worst number for new jobless claims in nine months. But the bigger picture is really an extraordinary record
of job creation to some degree buoyed by the recovery from the pandemic that is completely
external to the Biden administration, to some degree buoyed by global business cycles and
things that have nothing to do with Joe Biden. It's really important that this is not a
show where I play the political football with the jobs and with the debt and with the deficit and
with gas prices. Presidents have some to do with this, but a lot of it is much bigger. But the
important takeaway here is that we had a Republican Party and a Republican candidate in Trump and a
right wing movement in MAGA that for all of 2020, we were told if Biden wins,
the economy will end. You will have a 1929 style depression. No one will be working. The stock
market will be in the toilet. You will have no indoor heating, no indoor cooling. I mean,
you'll have to flush toilets 10 to 15 times. None of these things happened. Save the power flushing
by Trump. We know that's for whatever reason. And it's the documents or
whatever. He's flushing toilets 10 to 15 times. But other than that prediction, none of this stuff
has come true. And while the big picture job creation record is very good there, we are seeing
that not every month can be a record. Now, let's move to some very interesting jobs news that relate to this as well. President Joe Biden yesterday touted a Microsoft artificial intelligence center.
Excuse me on the site where Trump's Foxconn deal went completely wrong.
This is a major investment expected to create 2000 permanent jobs and 2300 temporary union construction jobs
to build the center. This is really a big deal because it's in Wisconsin. It's a critical
election state. It's a critical state where there is some high tech in Wisconsin, but it is not the
state known for high tech. And so this is a big deal in a
number of different ways. Joe Biden appearing there and then also giving an interview to CNN's
Aaron Burnett during which he is going for the jugular against Trump, saying, I'm doing it.
Trump promised that he failed. I've never failed. I'm creating jobs. And I think this is an
extraordinary way to head into the election in November. I'll explain failed. I'm creating jobs. And I think this is an extraordinary way to
head into the election in November. I'll explain why in a moment.
In here where we are for Foxconn, he promised 13000 jobs and only about 1000 of those actually
exist right now. So I know you're promising more than 2000 union construction jobs and
that 100000 people are going to get trained in A.I.
here. Why should people here believe that you will succeed at creating jobs where Trump failed?
And the funny part is, I mean, we'll let Biden answer it in a moment. The answer is because
Biden has succeeded in doing it and Trump failed. It's the proof is simply in the numbers.
He's never succeeded in creating jobs, and I've never failed.
I've created over 15 million jobs since I've been president.
15 million in three and three quarters years.
And secondly, Microsoft is a serious player,
and they're very much engaged in making sure that they pick this area
as sort of the home base for their AI initiative in the nation.
And they're going to do it.
And just like, and by the way, well, I shouldn't go into it, but Trump is,
he started off with the golden shovels, you know.
For the groundbreaking.
For the groundbreaking.
And talked about this being, you know, for the groundbreaking, groundbreaking and talked about this being,
you know, the eighth wonder of the world. When has he ever done anything? He said,
I'm not being facetious. Think about it. He started off, he lost other than Herbert Hoover.
He's the only other president lost more jobs and created in this four year term. He's in the way he managed the end of his last year when.
Speaker 1 So listen, I am with you that this does not exactly
reek of effervescence and vigor. I'm with you. But this is a powerful message because when you
look at the polling, economic issues are at the top for voters going into November. Now, some of these are
indirectly economic issues, like, for example, health care is at the very top in terms of issues
that people care about. It is. I don't even know that indirectly health care is an economic issue
because in the United States it's primarily tied to jobs. And if your job doesn't provide you with
health care, health insurance, then you either need to go into one of these marketplaces and pay for it.
It's economic.
Inevitably, it's an economic issue.
And so I think that it is very smart for Joe Biden to focus in on issues that are ranking
high on voters list of important issues and issues on which he is strongest.
And this is absolutely one of those issues.
Now let me go a little bit further because I do want to be thorough. And I think it's important not to have this. You know,
every president loves to talk and every elected official loves to talk about bringing jobs back
and getting more manufacturing jobs in the United States. And they're now talking about
even reindustrialization. No matter who is in the Oval Office, we really do need to have a broader
conversation about the big picture, feasibility of actually bringing back manufacturing to
the United States and this idea of reindustrialization, because there are a lot of difficulties.
We can bring back manufacturing and supply chains to the United States.
Most people wouldn't actually want what it would mean if you start manufacturing in the
United States. Stuff will be more expensive. There's higher labor costs. Most people wouldn't actually want what it would mean if you start manufacturing in the
United States.
Stuff will be more expensive.
There's higher labor costs.
To as an economy, we decided 40 years ago implicitly by outsourcing manufacturing to
other countries.
You individually might say, no, I'd rather pay more and have the local jobs. Maybe I would, too. But as an economy, we have decided that
there is a skills gap. If we were to bring if we decided we want the higher prices and the
domestic jobs, let's bring it all back. We would probably have a shortage of skilled workers
in certain manufacturing areas
because for decades now we've said we're going to outsource those jobs. Global competition. There
are other countries other than the ones we are currently manufacturing in which might be able
to offer some kind of in between where some aspects might be done domestically, but not the
actual manufacturing. And so it may prove more difficult
than simply deciding we're bringing the jobs back. So my point is there is a lot more to this idea
that every elected official says we're going to bring jobs back. Smarter seems to be to create
new jobs. The Artificial Intelligence Center is interesting because this is a new type of job.
The manufacturing, the construction jobs
will be there temporarily building the facility. So it's important to remember that there's a lot
of lip service paid to this bringing back manufacturing jobs. I think that if you told
a lot of Americans exactly what it would mean for prices on everything, many Americans wouldn't be
so thrilled with it. We hear a lot about facts over feelings. Facts don't care about your feelings
from Republicans. And we now have MAGA Mike Johnson, the speaker of the House, who is putting
forward a bill to ban noncitizens from voting, saying we don't have any evidence, but intuitively
we know that illegal immigrants are voting. He feels like illegal immigrants are voting, but we have no evidence of that.
And in fact, it's already illegal for undocumented immigrants to vote.
I'm going to play a clip for you.
This is the epitome of the bottom of the barrel.
It's just what we feel stuff from Republicans.
The question is hard to hear, but you're going to hear Speaker Mike Johnson say we know intuitively
that undocumented immigrants are voting.
I don't really have any evidence, but we just know it.
And there are.
No. And then a quick follow-up, what are the Democrats saying about this bill? They're basically saying it's a huge, sort of, the former president's convention.
No. So, Aisha, on the first question, I mean, the answer is that it's unanswerable.
That is the problem.
States are not allowed right now to prove, if somebody claims on that simple form,
that they're a citizen, they can vote.
They're not allowed to prove whether it's true or not.
We all know, intuitively, that a lot of illegals
are voting in federal elections, but it's not been something that is easily provable.
We don't have that number. Right. Yes. Legislation will allow us to do exactly that. It will
prevent that from happening. And if someone tries to do it, it will now be unlawful and
the states will have a mechanism to prove whether they are or not.
It is already against the law to vote or to try to vote.
If you are an undocumented immigrant or a big picture, if you're just not a citizen,
you could be a legal immigrant.
If you're not a citizen, you still can't vote.
And it would be against the law to try to do so.
So I can translate what he's saying.
We have no evidence.
We can't prove anything.
We made it all up.
And we, the Republican Party, regularly spend a lot of time
on things that do not exist, do not exist. We need a law to stop this really scary thing that we have
no proof is happening whatsoever. And remember that we have facts on our side. It's not our
feelings versus their feelings. It's multiple state governments have done investigations to
find evidence that noncitizens are voting. The Trump campaign hired Ken Block to investigate it.
We interviewed Ken Block. Ken Block said we found no evidence of it. We just there's just no
evidence that this thing is taking place. And so in order to believe that what they are telling us
is true, you have to believe
that despite all of the efforts to find evidence of it and despite the fact that it's already
against the law for noncitizens to vote, not to mention you can't even get on the voter
rolls if you're not a citizen.
So what it would require for a noncitizen to vote is to go to a polling place knowing
which citizens haven't yet voted and to claim that you are
that citizen.
There's no evidence that it's happening.
And if it were happening, it would be a really stupid way to try to steal an election.
It doesn't make any sense.
There's no evidence of it.
But intuitively, they know that it's happening.
Their intuition has absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever.
And remember, small government, their principle is we are small government conservatives.
Government should only be involved when it is abundantly clear that government must be
involved because there is no other solution.
You don't even have evidence of a problem, but you're passing a bill which is meant to
solve a problem you can't even prove exists.
This is another example of how Republicans
abandon every single one of their stated principles when it's not convenient. And next
week, we're actually going to do a deep dive on this. We've been working on it for a little bit.
We are going to do a deep dive on what does conservatism to there's no conservatism left
in the Republican Party. That's the point. But what does conservatism claim as its top line values? And is the modern Republican Party
adhering to those stated values? I'll preview for you that the answer is no,
but we're going to do a deep dive and look at all of the examples. So let's hear from a sponsor or
two literal brainworms for RFK Jr.
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After this very short break.
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Right. I mean, these days, impervious is great. A literal brain worm ate part of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s brain,
but he's fine now. It's actually not a funny story. It's wild that we've been talking about
metaphorical brain worms for so long and an actual worm got into his brain. An incredible story. The
New York Times reports RFK Jr. says doctors found a dead worm in his brain.
The presidential candidate has faced previously undisclosed health issues, including a parasite,
he said, ate part of his brain.
And they tell the story.
This goes back to 2010 and 2010.
RFK Jr. was experiencing memory loss and mental fogginess.
And there was concern about a brain tumor.
Went to the doctor.
Doctors found a spot
on his brain scans and said it's a tumor. And he was scheduled for a procedure with a surgeon,
but he got received a call from a doctor who had a different opinion and said, I think it's a dead
parasite. I think it's a brain, a worm that got in your brain and then died in your brain after eating a portion of it.
Terrifying. Absolutely terrifying. Interesting. The New York Times points out that as an
independent candidate, he has portrayed himself as the vigorous, athletic and relatively young
candidate over Trump and Biden, which is certainly interesting and regularly showing
up and lifting weights or snowboarding, skiing, etc..
So it is an interesting thing that he had this this health issue.
But we are told by his campaign that everything would be completely fine if he were president.
Best Levin writing in Vanity Fair. Everything you
need to know for one thing is campaign says it won't affect his ability to serve as president.
And it does appear as though everything is fine. You know, we often talk metaphorically about
MAGA brain worms. This is literal brain worms. And Robert F. Kennedy Jr. putting out a tweet about it where he said, quote, I offer this
is wild.
He said, I offer to eat five more brain worms and still beat President Trump and President
Biden in a debate and then said, I feel confident of the result.
Even with a six worm handicap, as all of you know, I have no interest
whatsoever in his campaign as someone I would consider voting for. But these tweets are
genuinely kind of funny. So it's a we're glad he's OK. He should be defeated, not because he
had a brain worm, but because his ideas are not so good and all he can really
hope to do, quite frankly, is help Donald Trump become president, which, by the way,
some people suspect is exactly what he is trying to do.
So there is the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. story.
When we talk about his brain worms, we're talking about literal brain worms.
When we talk about a lot of the MAGA people, they are metaphorical brain worms.
And this is two different things.
Marjorie Taylor Greene, the reactionary and repugnant Republican congresswoman, is apparently
ready to go down with the ship attempting to remove yet another speaker of the House.
This time it's MAGA Mike Johnson.
Her attempt to remove MAGA Mike Johnson
going down in flames. Why does she want to remove yet another Speaker of the House? Well, she feels
I don't know if there's evidence she feels that MAGA Mike Johnson is more working with Democrats
in the House than Republicans willing to work with Democrats to pass
Ukraine aid, for example, something that Marjorie Taylor Greene is against. But alas, the House has
blocked the resolution and many of Marjorie Taylor Greene's colleagues on the Republican side of the
aisle not pleased with her. Here she is introducing the motion to vacate the speakership. And she is booed
even by her own Republican colleagues. Take a listen to this. I seek recognition to give notice
of my intent to raise the question of the privileges of the House. The form of the
resolution is as follows. Right. Declaring the office of Speaker of the House of Representatives to be vacant.
This is the uniparty for the American people watching.
Gentlelady will suspend.
Order.
Order. Order.
The gentlewoman from Georgia is recognized.
Whereas the House Republican Conference
elected Mike Johnson on October 25th, 2023,
after three and a half weeks of trying to decide
on a new Speaker of the House. Mr. Speaker, the House is not in order. All right. So long story short, she introduced this as a
privileged resolution, meaning that it either must be defeated or brought up for a vote within two
legislative days. And indeed, the House very quickly voting to table the resolution to table the motion,
rather.
And it failed completely.
Hundred and ninety six Republicans, one hundred and sixty three Democrats joining to end this
nonsense.
And here is that moment.
Both the yeas are three fifty nine and yeas are forty three.
It was seven answering present.
The motion is adopted without objection. A motion to reconsider
is laid on the table. All right. So cheers, because it was indeed defeated. This is the
latest attempt for Marjorie Taylor Greene to, I guess, kind of like out MAGA MAGA in some sense,
MAGA Mike Johnson, of course, making every attempt to ingratiate himself with
Donald Trump, even making a pilgrimage down to Mar-a-Lago a few weeks ago and Trump looking a
little bit a little bit distant, I would say, from MAGA Mike during that appearance. And Trump,
interestingly, actually waited to see whether this would fail or not before weighing in on it and
putting out some generic statement. I won't even bore you with about Marjorie Taylor Greene is great, but blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah.
So, listen, I think that there is an attempt being made here.
But the value of Marjorie Taylor Greene in the House of Representatives is greatly diminished.
There was a time before Lauren Boebert was a complete and total joke when Lauren Boebert
was only 90 percent of a joke as opposed to 100
percent of a joke. And MAGA Republican Madison Cawthorn was in the House. And there was a bit
more strength between the House MAGA movement. It genuinely did appear as though maybe Marjorie
Taylor Greene was latching on to some kind of pseudo grassroots contingent, the contingent
that ousted Kevin McCarthy from the speakership. But now, particularly with a diminished MAGA
movement, with a diminished Trump, while at the same time splitting MAGA, because you've got the
non MAGA part of the House Republicans, then you have the MAGA people that are behind Mike Johnson.
And then you have this anti Mike Johnson sub MAGA wing. It's all kind of a mess. And just a reminder
that taxpayer money, my taxpayer money, yours, your neighbors, all of our taxpayer money is going
to this sort of nonsense. And so part of what's on the ballot in November, it is MAGA Trump is a more broadly
and quite literally it's also Trump himself. But it's also very important to remember that it's
this entire package of doing nothing but grandstanding at great expense, wasting my
money, flushing my money down the toilet and flushing your money down the toilet. I'm going
to be voting against it in November. You vote however you want. All right. After a disastrous week of PR,
Kristi Noem's team, I guess, has decided no more interviews. And Dana Bash announcing this
yesterday on CNN. Take a look at this. And this little package includes a reminder of how this
week has gone very, very wrong. Governor Kristi Noem has taken hit after hit on television this week about the story
she tells in her own new book about how she shot her poorly trained dog
and about not really meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, despite saying she did.
Over the last week, I should not have put that anecdote in the book.
I'm not going to that anecdote in the book.
I'm not going to talk about my meetings. But an anecdote indicates that it happened, right?
I'm not with President Trump.
Did the dog story come up in your conversation with Trump?
I talk to President Trump all the time.
Did you bring up the dog with Trump?
Yes, enough, Stuart.
This interview is ridiculous, what you are doing right now.
When you recorded your own audio book, you didn't notice this passage?
I'm not going to discuss about my meetings with world leaders.
I'm not asking you to. I'm asking you about recording the audio.
Did you want to talk about something else today?
Now, Noem had been a top candidate to join Donald Trump's ticket.
Here's what Trump himself said about her yesterday.
I like her a lot, so, you know, I don't want to comment on anybody on the list,
but she had a rough couple of days, I will say that.
Governor Noem was scheduled to be on this program inside politics today.
Her team reached out to us weeks ago to book her here.
And we reconfirmed earlier this week she abruptly canceled last night.
We want to say, Governor, you are, of course, welcome on the program any time.
Also, Kristi Noem canceling on Fox News because of snow, which is kind of weird.
The Daily Beast reporting on that and saying that they cited a snowstorm in South Dakota
as the reason why she couldn't do the interview.
But at the time, Noem appeared to already have been in New York City.
So it's not really obvious why already have been in New York City.
So it's not really obvious why if you're in New York and scheduled to do interviews in New York, you can't do you can't do them because it's snowing halfway across the country.
So listen, this is clearly too little too late.
It's the right decision.
There is no way out of the hole that she dug for herself.
She was asked direct questions in every interview, which she refused to answer.
She bailed on multiple interviews now. And as bad as that looks,
I mean, listen, the press over bailing on the interviews is going to be short.
It's a one day news cycle that she's bailing on interviews. She destroyed her shot at being Trump's VP by doing the interviews. So it does make sense. The smart move would have been to
cancel the interviews up front and not even start this nonsense on Sunday.
But she also may be contractually obligated to do interviews with her publisher in order to promote her book, which I don't know anything in the reviews, but I hope that the book is failing and she certainly
has self-destructed completely and totally.
So hopefully and listen, by the way, I'm not itching to hear from Kristi Noem.
I couldn't care less what she thinks.
And so I think it's a good thing that we push her out of the national spotlight because
her ideas are disastrous.
She's a disaster.
And hopefully this entire episode, it's going to put her in the dustbin of history. OK, as Ron DeSanctimonious
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disease expert, a geriatrician as well.
Dr. Liz, it's so great having you on.
I really appreciate it.
Well thank you.
I appreciate the opportunity to teach about dementia.
So yeah, I mean, listen, let's start. I think at this point, the two major presidential candidates,
Donald Trump and Joe Biden, have seen a number of very confident and boisterous allegations made
about their cognition and their state of mind. We talked about a literal brainworm that Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. experienced in the early 2010s as well.
And maybe you'll have something to say to say about him. Can you give us just like a brief
overview about when we are looking at individuals who we know mostly through media, television,
audio? What is it you look for? What is it we can and cannot glean necessarily?
Well, it's a huge topic. I'll try and be brief. When we're talking about
does someone have capacity for an intervention, the question is, what is it? As a geriatrician,
often I get asked, do they have financial capacity in relation to someone who's maybe
financially abused, or do they have medical capacity, or can they sign a will? So if you
don't, if you only understand, you know, what assets you have, your house and who you'd like
them to go to, that's called testamentary. Cool. Medical, you have to understand the medical
interventions. Like, you know, you have an infection in your leg, they want to cut it off.
That means you're going to be in the hospital for a while and you're not going to be able to walk on it.
Can you repeat that back? The financial is most complicated because you have to understand
abstract concepts and reasoning. And basically, I'm taking this as an opportunity to talk to,
you know, the home audience. And when I have someone who is acting strangely and isn't taking care of their bills or they're getting more angry than they used to or they're just, you know, they personality seems different.
Then I ask the families to have the person draw a clock, have it say 1110 and have them calculate 25 percent of $22.50. Seems really simple. But our society is so conditioned
that if you sound socially okay, we think you're okay. And I've had a number of patients where one
gentleman was very successful businessman, but he drank too much and he was getting a divorce.
And I could see he wasn't eating. He couldn't take care of the house. He couldn't get groceries. He needed the care. And the lawyer
said, well, you can't have that care because, you know, of the divorce settlement. And so
they hadn't recognized he had the dementia and needed the help. And so I said, nope,
you've got to make sure that you've got care for him. This happens all the time. So
I'm not going to point out and say Trump or Biden or RFK has got dementia. I'm going to say what I
look for. I look at function. And first, I hear a lot about Trump got Obama and Biden confused. He got Pelosi and Haley confused. Those are fairly serious because these
are the people that, you know, this is his job is to run for president. And Biden got confused
about Mitterrand and Cole. You know, those are old age changes, you know, where you get the names wrong. What I often look for is,
oh, the other bit that I remember hearing about is that Trump was talking about Gettysburg and
he didn't really understand, you know, what the Battle of Gettysburg was for.
Yeah. Let me remind the audience on that. It was sort of a seeming
non sequitur about Gettysburg laced with superlatives and hyperbole about, wow, what
about Gettysburg sort of thing? Yeah, right. And so you want the president to be able to understand complex international situations and be able to be very focused on
what's the best thing to do for America. That said, I think that, you know, Biden has
made some stumbles. He's not the most dynamic person around. He never has been. I look at the function
of his programs, you know, that they've brought back manufacturing, that brought NATO together,
that they are, you know, working to protect Ukraine. He's looking, I mean, the Middle East
is extremely complicated. And Hamas, who got money from Russia, you know, attacked Israel and took hostages and killed 1100 on October 7th, which is Putin's birthday.
So there's a lot of really complicated movements.
And what I see the team doing is trying to connect with all the players and the Middle Eastern leaders and keep the war from spreading.
So other experts have generically said, as you're sort of pointing out, that some of
the things that are publicly noticeable about Trump are more concerning to them when it
comes to capacity than what they are seeing from Biden.
Generally, do you agree with
that or not so much? Well, so the things that concern me are not understanding the context of
a historical event like Gettysburg, but also when he was under deposition. So what I look for is
function. So depositions are great as opposed to,
you know, I guess he was noted to have 30,000 lies. So when he has a rally, you, you know,
whatever he says may or may not be true. So there's one kind of dementia related with alcoholism.
That's not for him. It's got confabulation where you just make stuff up. But he was in his deposition and they asked him if he had any medications or any reason he couldn't answer the questions that day.
And he said no. And I've been in depositions as an expert witness.
And I know the lawyers go through step by step exactly what you're supposed to say.
And right in front of him, he had this, you know, long written out statement about how
this was a witch hunt, you know, from Biden. Yeah. And he his lawyer had to go read the statement,
read the statement. So he didn't understand the context. So that's concerning that if he's in a
situation where, you know, it's tense negotiations that he may not be catching the cues.
The other, but the thing that's challenging, particularly for Trump, is that, you know,
there, and I'm not going to make a pronouncement here. I would say this is someone that should have
geropsych testing, which is like four to five hours long,
because you have to see a decline in function from your previous state. So Rudy Giuliani is
an easier one, and I'm actually quite worried about him. You know, here's a man who in the 90s
brought down the mob. I mean, you have to be on the top of your game to do that. And then just a
year or two ago, you know, he was having a presidential press conference at the Four Seasons landscaping parking lot.
I mean, that's concerning. I really get concerned about him with these legal cases that he is not quite understanding everything that's going on. And when someone doesn't understand the implications of
an intervention, in this case, the legal issues, then they don't have capacity for that.
When it comes to go back to something you said about comparing to an earlier baseline.
Yeah. As a layperson, when I see Trump's speeches from the 2016 campaign and his TV appearances from 2012
and his Letterman appearance from 2005, the dynamicism, the diversity of vocabulary,
there's something that seems to be gone from the way that he speaks. I can't discern whether it
would be expected based on his age at these different
times or whether there's more to it.
What do you think?
Well, there can be a diminishment, you know, like Biden is diminished relative to 20 years
ago as well.
So I'm not going to criticize that. that uh what i will say is he i i watched his campaign um rally in washington uh wisconsin or
michigan and he was saying things like hey i'm only using the teleprompter eight percent of the
time and 92 of the time i'm not yeah i'm like, well, what is that about? I mean, a regular candidate would
not. And the other thing about Trump is whatever he's feeling or worried about tends to come out
in his speech. And so one of the frontal lobe tasks is it has your reasoning. It has your
social filters. So it keeps you from saying things you really shouldn't say. So this is like an
inhibition mechanism of sorts.
Exactly right.
So he's lost some of his inhibitions.
Dr. Liz, you said you wanted to mention something also about RFK Jr.
because he's not getting as much attention as far as this sort of stuff goes.
What's your impression?
Well, so as I said, you know, I particularly look at function.
You know, what did Trump do during his presidency?
What did Biden do during his presidency? What did Biden do during his presidency? Although these days, I've got to say that the news media has really made
things problematic in that, like with Trump, you know, buried Ivana in his golf course. And I looked
it up. And in New Jersey, a cemetery is exempt from judicial seizure. So, you know, I talked to someone who watches
Fox News all the time and he's like, that didn't happen. I was like, no, look.
So I think that our country is kind of in silos, which is definitely a problem.
RFK, he doesn't have, you know, any experience running any big things. This whole question of
having a dead worm in his brain, that's usually
cysticercosis, and that causes inflammation. And also, you know, he was shooting drugs as a kid,
and he got hepatitis C. So that causes scarring. All of dementia is scarring. And mainly, it can't
be cured, you know, no matter what the MD gurus say, but you can do things to decrease how fast it will
progress. And he, RFK said in the 2012 deposition that he had memory loss, long-term, short-term,
and he couldn't work as much. But now he's saying that he's all better. So that's not how it works.
You get, it's kind of like a heart attack. You get damage to the brain, whether it's from strokes or Alzheimer's or alcohol or head injuries or.
So if I understand correctly, you're saying that whatever damage, whatever symptoms he was experiencing from that at the time, that these would be sort of permanent changes to the brain.
Yes. So the inflammation from hepatitis C, it's an inflammatory process in the whole body.
It can cause changes in the nerves, the brain, particularly the liver and the sister circosis.
So it looks like there is some scarring definitely in one part of his brain.
And that part is just going to stay scarred.
I mean, if they treated him with antibiotics, it's going to keep him from getting new infections in his brain. And so it may just be stable, but, you know, that it's not likely it would be extremely unusual that if he had cognitive problems and couldn't work very much and earn a living
in 2012, that all of a sudden he would be better.
I mean, now he's also saying that, you know, Ukraine needs to be denazified.
Like, where is that coming from?
You know, it's a very strange year.
It is a very strange year.
That is for sure.
We've been speaking with Dr. Elizabeth Landsberg, a dementia and Alzheimer's disease expert.
Dr. Liz, really appreciate your time and insights today.
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Well, yesterday was finally the treasured day off from his criminal trial for the failed
former President Donald Trump, And he's been complaining.
This trial is keeping me off the campaign trail.
I should be in Michigan.
I should be in Wisconsin.
I should be in Pennsylvania.
I should be West.
I should be east.
I should be north.
I should be south.
So certainly yesterday he went out in campaign.
Right.
Very much wrong.
Yesterday, Donald Trump spent the day hosting the people who bought his NFTs at Mar-a-Lago via non fungible tokens.
He had no public campaign scheduled yesterday, but he did an event with his NFT customers
at Mar-a-Lago. And remember, the NFTs, an alleged money laundering scam and welcoming those individuals to his home.
We have a couple of clips from the event. At one point, someone asked, can we donate to your campaign in cryptocurrency?
Another very juicy potential way to launder money into his campaign. Right.
Trump immediately says yes, but then says he's actually not totally sure.
And asking for help.
Does anyone know if I can accept crypto?
Yeah, please.
Can we donate to your campaign using crypto?
Yes.
If you can't, I'll make sure you can donate to the Trump campaign using crypto.
I believe the answer is yes.
Is there somebody that can help me with that answer?
This gentleman can help you through.
Yes or no.
Yes.
I love that.
That's one of the greatest.
I like the fact that history, I like the dash in the middle.
Take it back.
It's an NFT.
The hat.
Oh, the greatest NFT ever.
So we can do crypto. We can do crypto. OK, my company can help you with that.
As you can see.
First of all, my company can help you with that.
The guy who asked wasn't actually looking to donate any money.
He was looking to help Trump process crypto donations.
Everybody there is grifting.
OK, as you can see, it's of critical importance
that Trump not be in court so that he can be on the campaign trail or I guess at his
home doing this stuff. Another bizarre video from this strange event.
About eight months ago, we had one of these. Who is it the last time we came to Mar-a-Lago? The best looking people I've ever seen.
Let's go.
They come in and I say, aye, aye, aye, I can't, I never wanted to leave.
In fact, I was supposed to leave about an hour ago and they didn't let you know, I have
a fake trial going on with these- The trial is fake.
The charges are real, but the trial is fake.
Fake news, Fake news.
Horrible people. They drummed up some nonsense. It's a shame for America. It's a shame. But
we've never had better poll numbers. Poll numbers are the highest we've ever had.
Notice that the truth, of course, is that Trump is increasingly underwater in some critical swing
states with Joe Biden building a lead. It's just it's just not true what he's saying,
but he would love to believe it. That's for sure. He didn't crooked Joe Biden by a lot in the national polls and in the swing
states. We're beating him when I just saw it wrong. We're leading by a lot in every single
swing state. That's where we have to keep it, because he's the worst president in the history
of our country. There's never been a president as bad as this guy. Right. Sleepy Joe. In an office that they can't keep like they did last night. It's funny someone yelling Sleepy Joe.
Trump's not using that anymore because he's sleeping at every day of his trial. And then
lastly, Trump in another one of these behind the curtain moments pointing, I guess, like often some
balcony somewhere on a portico somewhere at Mar-a-Lago. There were a couple people shaking
hands or doing something. And Trump says, look, where are all my rich people? They're doing deals
over there. Take a look. This is sort of like Trump's where's my African-American type moment.
Look, I have all my rich people. Look, she does. That guy see they're shaking hands on a deal.
Look, they just shook hands in a ten10 billion deal. They're trying to figure
out how do they get advertising like that? Where are my rich people? So a very, very
important day off from Trump's criminal trial so that he could hang out with the people
who bought his digital trading cards. And certainly I'm sure the judge will see this
and say, you know what? It's very,
very important that you have the day off to go to a baron Trump's graduation. So a strange day
at Mar-a-Lago. Also a very strange over the weekend for Laura Trump, which I want to talk
about. Over the weekend, there was an event, some generic Republican event. You know, it doesn't
even really matter what it is. And Donald Trump's daughter in law, Laura Trump, introduced him. And one of the things they did
is they celebrated the January 6th criminal rioters, the party of law and order celebrating
alleged and convicted criminals. Many of these individuals have already been convicted.
If you didn't know this. And by the way, if you didn't know this, I'm jealous of you. I wish I
didn't know it. There is a rendition of the United States national anthem voiced by the rioters. Now
they are celebrating the rioters by calling them hostages. Hostages is the word that they are using for the
rioters. And in the midst of introducing Donald Trump, Lara Trump had them play the song. This
is a sort of treason national anthem. And by the way, I don't know what the rules are with the
national anthem. You know how you're not supposed to modify the American flag. So when you see these thin blue line flags and all of these other perversions of the flag,
you're actually violating the flag code. They're very patriotic. They respect the flag,
except when they pervert it with their various colors and lines and stripes.
I don't know if there's something similar with the national anthem, but I like to call this
the treason national anthem. They are celebrating the rioters. Yet another one of their principles,
law and order, due process, respect authority, respect the courts, respect the justice system.
Another one of their principles, which they abandon like that when it's no longer convenient.
The treason national anthem. Speaker 1 Speaker 5 Does anyone know of a single liberal who cried
because of this?
If there were any tears, it would be tears for how low the country has sunk with this
perversion of a of a political party.
All justice for all. And today I'm going to present him with his billboard award with all
of you. Would you please help me congratulate him? Right. And as you see, there is Trump often does. I was asked to do that by some great politicians and great friends.
And this is like the J6 hostages.
They actually say so.
He's celebrating alleged criminals and convicted criminals by saying they are actually the victims. It's the treason national anthem.
And Trump is standing there with his hand over his heart and just kind of, you know, hinging back and forth like he often does. What?
Yeah.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
God bless the United States of America. God bless the United Shays.
Speaker 1 By the way, how awkward is it that Trump just stands there hinged forward the entire time. Right.
All right.
So you you get the picture there.
So listen, we are going to do a segment about all of the principles that these people ascribe
to themselves, but they have actually abandoned completely and totally, of course, law and
order.
And as you see that here, defending alleged and convicted criminals, therefore law and
order until all of a sudden it's inconvenient for them and inconvenient for Trump.
Respect for institutions until those institutions are completely and totally inconvenient for
them.
Debt and deficit. Oh, we've got to keep the debt low and until they get into power and they
completely and totally blow up the debt and the deficit personal responsibility until all of a
sudden they are attempted to be held responsible for something that they did. So we're going to
go through all of this in a segment next week. But no surprise to anybody that we continue to see the defense of alleged and convicted
criminals and an attack on the justice system that is prosecuting Trump, while at the same
time saying it is the Democrats and the left who are the lawbreakers and it is the left
and the Democrats that ignore due process and law and order.
More of the same.
We have a voicemail number. That number is two one nine two. David P. Here is a caller
who just can't take the RFK brain worms situation. Take a listen to this. All right. I know you have
like three thousand of these voicemails, but please, I hope to God that you hear mine.
But here's the thing.
Dude, have you heard that RFK has literal brain worms or did or whatever?
I've never heard that term before until I started watching your show. And then to see on CNN this morning that RFK has worms in his brain.
It's just you can't make this stuff up.
Absolutely amazing.
I sincerely hope that you comment on it.
All right.
Have a good one.
Yeah, we did.
We I commented on it earlier.
And, you know, a ton of people wrote to me about it.
We're talking about a serious medical issue.
Like I simultaneously I as a thing, we don't make fun of of conditions and medical issues on this
show. And also the the the fact that he had a brainworm when what we talk about in politics
colloquially is people that are afflicted by so-called brainworms. I understand the irony.
I understand that there is something there that is of interest to people. But the story just taking
off and dozens of emails coming in
about it. So we did talk about it earlier in the show. All right. We have such a great bonus show
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