The David Pakman Show - 6/22/23: Trump malfunctions in Fox interview, MTG and Boebert clash

Episode Date: June 22, 2023

-- On the Show: -- Luke Beasley, host of The Luke Beasley Show and TDPS correspondent, fills in for David -- Tim Scott does a Fox News town hall -- Donald Trump gets cornered on his death penalty for drug dealers policy during a Fox News interview with Bret Baier -- Trump continues to struggle when talking about the COVID-19 vaccines to his right-wing base -- Chris Christie mocks Trump over his federal indictment -- Lauren Boebert introduces articles of impeachment against President Joe Biden -- Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene clash on the House floor -- Ron DeSantis goes to San Francisco to claim the left has destroyed the city -- Republican House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer expresses support for defunding the (federal) police -- Former Republican Congressman Will Hurd announces he's running for president -- Jessica Tarlov debunks right-wing talking points about Hunter Biden's plea deal on Fox News's "The Five" -- On the Bonus Show: House censures Adam Schiff, more on MTG/Boebert clash, Christie on Trump wanting to skip debates, more Trump recordings, and much more... 🌱 Ounce of Hope: Get 25% OFF with code PAKMAN at https://www.ounceofhope.com/ 🩺 Sign up for Wild Health Premium at https://wildhealth.com/premium 🪒 Henson Shaving: Use code PAKMAN for FREE blades at https://hensonshaving.com/pakman ✉️ StartMail: Get 50% OFF a year subscription at https://startmail.com/pakman 💰 Public.com: Start getting a 5% yield on your cash at https://public.com/pakman 💻 Get Private Internet Access for 83% OFF + 4 months free at https://www.piavpn.com/David -- Become a Supporter: http://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/thedavidpakmanshow -- Subscribe to Pakman Live: https://www.youtube.com/pakmanlive -- Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/davidpakmanshow -- Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave us a message at The David Pakman Show Voicemail Line (219)-2DAVIDP

Welcome back everybody to the David Pakman show. Luke Beasley here filling in for David while he is away. We have a fantastic show ahead of us, so let's dive into it. Republican presidential candidate and Senator Tim Scott did a town hall on Fox News with Sean Hannity and wasn't super interesting, but the one moment I do want to look at that is interesting to me is in line with what we've seen from both Tim Scott and some of these other Republican candidates in this current 2024 primary field where they're polling really low, but they refuse to criticize the guy who is polling the highest being Trump. Tim Scott is petrified and so many of these other individuals, whether it be Vivek Bhalaswamy or Nikki Haley, they're petrified of criticizing Trump or at

least distinguishing themselves from Trump. And instead, it's this weird message of, well, I just want to distinguish myself from Biden. But you can't do that. You can do that, but you can't do that alone until you get to the general. Otherwise, you won't get there if you don't win this primary. Of course, that's how these election processes work but tim scott is still very afraid and you'll notice that in this clip of criticizing trump or desantis and he says a little thing on ukraine which okay good he's trying to distinguish himself there but then outside of that he says but i really want to show you the difference between me and President Biden. Yes, my name is Erin, and good evening, Senator and Sean. My question is this. In a world that we know is kind of in a downfall, and we can all agree to that, what are your main differences with

the other candidates, such as Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis? What are your main policy differences? So the first thing I'd say is that I do care who wins the Ukrainian conflict. I believe Ukrainians are willing to put their lives on the line. And I hope Zelensky pulls it out. This summer offensive will be really important in that engagement. But more importantly, what I would say the biggest difference is between me and Joe Biden. That's where I'm focusing my attention. He's our problem. So I agree with him on Ukraine in that I disagree with a lot of the Republicans on

their odd and incorrect stance on Ukraine, where they pretend like supporting Ukraine is somehow being a warmonger or something like that we've seen that from maga recently but outside of that he just says the biggest difference is between me and joe biden yeah every republican is going to say they're different than joe biden that's not going to win a primary for you and so then i want to get to a bit of analysis on cnn from uh sarah longwell who does a lot of focus groups with maga voters and she kind of broke down what's going on here where the primary is becoming while it's getting more and more full it's still becoming this uh this

movie where trump's the main character and everyone else, they're just supporting actors and actresses. And so because of that, unless something changes radically, Trump's definitely going to be the nominee. And so then the question has to be, what the heck are all these candidates doing then? And she believes at least a number of them are trying to become Trump's VP choice. Take a look. You know, I think this is actually the key question is that is there anybody with the the necessary political talent to take on Donald Trump? And I think for a lot of voters, they thought Ron DeSantis was going to be that guy. You know, when I was doing focus groups several months ago after DeSantis had his big win and Donald Trump had sort of suffered a string of losses for the people that he's and he had endorsed had endorsed. I was seeing a lot of activity in

the focus groups where people were really interested in moving on, and they all really liked Ron DeSantis. The problem is that the more that they've seen of DeSantis, the more they say things like, you know, I don't think it's his time yet, or he'd make a good vice president for Trump. And because Trump, whether it's the indictments or because he's able to play grievance politics, he's able to sort of suck up all or the political will to seize these moments and elevate themselves. They're all deciding to just play second fiddle. And I think there's a lot of people in this race that are playing for VP already. I guess that would make sense. I really wish.

Oh, sorry, guys. I really wish that if you were getting into a race, a presidential race, it was because you actually thought you had a shot of winning and you actually thought that you should be president of the United States. Not this weird just raising your profile thing or trying to become a VP choice. Obviously, that's often the game that's played. And so we just deal with it. But I do wish it was always an authentic attempt to become president, because then the analysis of these types of races are a little bit is a little bit strange. Right. OK. Tim Scott, does he really think he's win or he could win or is he just trying to become the VP choice? But that doesn't seem likely at all, because Trump, at least behind the scenes, based on reporting reporting has indicated he wants to choose a female running mate and so that makes sense for someone like nikki haley but then in a primary trump can't help himself to speak very poorly of all these other individuals nikki haley being one of them he's kind of criticized so that would make it less likely he chooses her as his vp running mate who knows what's going to end up happening, but definitely an odd environment developing in the primary field, at least on the GOP side. And as Sarah Longwell mentioned, because of Trump's legal troubles, even though that's hurting him generally with

Americans, that's my belief and polling seems to indicate that, in the primary field, it's creating a situation where all these Republicans, because they have to go along with a two tier justice system talking point that hurts Republicans, helps Democrats, and they can't make the base mad. They have to go along with the idea that Trump's this huge victim. But if you go along with that, then the narrative becomes Trump is this brave warrior who's fending off the terrible deep state trying to take him down. So then all these candidates who are supposed to be saying they're the good choice are serving a role in propping up Trump as this hero. And that is the exact opposite thing you'd want to do if you were trying to defeat Trump, of course.

And it's not aligned with the facts, of course. So not a good strategy in my mind, but that's what's happening on the Tim Scott campaign front. Well, speaking of Donald Trump, he did a Fox News interview with Brett Baier that you saw a little bit of from producer Pat's show yesterday. And round two was broadcasted out or something on Fox News, and so we have more clips from that. And the moment I have for you now is so dang bizarre, stunning, humiliating for Trump, and just a moment on television you don't see too often where Brett Baer poses a very good question to trump based on something he was bragging about and trump just has a complete confused malfunction um as you're about to see before i look at that moment with you um this is from usa today huh donald trump pardon recipient

would face the death penalty under his new plan. Part of Donald Trump's record in office, freeing convicts with long prison sentences for relatively minor drug offenses, has run up against one of his 2024 campaign planks, the death penalty for drug dealers. Trump seemed rattled this week when told that Alice Johnson, a high-profile pardon recipient,

would be vulnerable to execution under his new criminal justice proposal. Huh? Trump said during an interview broadcast Tuesday when Fox News anchor Brett Baier told him that she'd be killed under your plan. And indeed, confusion was gushing out of Trump in this moment after he was told that, as the article noted, Alice Johnson, an individual who was a nonviolent drug offender who Trump pardoned while he was president under his new proposal that he's been campaigning on of implementing the death penalty for drug dealers. She would be someone subjected to possibly being executed.

Take a look. As an example, a woman who you know very well was in jail. She had 24 more years to serve. Take a look. marijuana mostly marijuana and she got like 50 years in jail but she'd be killed under your plan huh as a drug dealer no no no under my oh under that uh it would depend on the severity it would depend on this ad let's just watch that little part one more time that's a level of panic that you don't see too often for many of these individuals, but Trump included. Take a look. Involved in selling marijuana, mostly marijuana. And she got like 50 years in jail.

But she'd be killed under your plan. Huh? As a drug dealer. No, no, no. Under my, oh, under that? It would depend on the severity. It would depend on the severity. Here you run this ad, ad she's technically a former drug

dealer she the she had multi-million dollar cocaine ring any drug dealer look so even al shawson in that ad she can't do it okay by the way if that was there no she wouldn't be killed it would start as of now so you wouldn't go to the test as a so this highlights a couple things the first being how incorrect of a policy proposal that is but the second being and i think we're all very aware of this even the things he says he proposes and he promotes he doesn't understand care about or have any actual substantive belief in based on some policy analysis come on as if and so there he probably never thought about the fact that on one end he'll promote the fact that he pardoned non-violent drug offenders such as alice johnson and on the other end he's talking about executing people just like alice johnson and that just there

occurred to him based on brett bear's questioning and you saw the confusion that came of it but indeed he has been promoting at rallies and elsewhere the idea of the death penalty for drug dealers i am calling for the death penalty for drug dealers and human traffickers which will upon its passage reduce it will reduce drug distribution. And it once again shows us how everything is for applause. Everything is how does this play in this given moment. Over here, people kind of liked that I pardoned someone like Alice Johnson. So I'm going to talk about that. And over here, people cheer when I say death penalty for drug dealers. There's no coherence

and there's no policy principle. It's just for the applause and for Trump's ego. Here's another example of this. I'm calling on Republicans and Democrats immediately to institute, to get to Washington and institute the death penalty for drug dealers. You will no longer have a problem. Yeah. So then when those two applause lines contradict, we get the moment that you just saw.

Complete and total confusion and panic. The other moment I wanted to take a look at from this Fox News Brett Baer interview with Donald Trump, round two, part two of this, was a question about the vaccine, the COVID vaccine, and watching Trump interact with this and try to contend with the fact that a lot of his followers have all these conspiracy theories about the vaccine, but he's someone who always wants to take credit for anything that he can take credit for and because the vaccine was something that got developed um the covid19 vaccine specifically while he was president he wants to be able to take credit for that and also doesn't want to make his followers mad and he has such a hard time with

that um and you'll notice him in this clip dealing with that in real time we'll watch it and then discuss this thing on covid in your, did the COVID vaccine work? It's such an interesting question because not only that, I also did the Regenerons of the world, you know, the whole, we did a tremendous job on that. But we had a vaccine. Now you have different, you have different COVIDs. You had COVID-19 and then you have different COVIDs, but we had an original was COVID-19, which was the roughest one. So I have a Democrat friend who's very smart.

Hopefully he votes for me, but he's very smart. He said, I don't understand one thing about you. I watch your rallies. They're incredible. You talk about beating ISIS. You talk about taxes. You talk about regulation. You talk about everything. But you never said that... I've never heard you about how the incredible job you did with the vaccines, because as you know, I got them done in nine months, and it was supposed to take anywhere from five to 12 years, trump he pretends he was in the lab figuring it out but i do think for all the damage that trump did at least he didn't mess up the development of the covid vaccine too much the fda because they were very bureaucratic and i got it done and he

said you may have saved in the world, throughout the world, 100 million people and you never talk about it. I said, I really don't want to talk about it because as a Republican, it's not a great thing to talk about because for some reason it's just not. For some reason? Yeah, for some reason. Because people love the vaccines and people hate the vaccines. But conservatives aren't.

And I understand both sides of it by the way i understand both sides very well what i didn't do is the mandates the mandates and the vaccine you had these governors mandated and by the way ron de sanctis pentagon did ron de sanctis and everything comes back to ron de sanctis uh so this is you know we talked about with this last fox news clip uh from this same interview how everything about trump's life is for the stroking of his ego and for applause lines and so here in living a life that is centered around that he's trained himself to absolutely often take even more credit than he possibly could reasonably for absolutely anything possible but then that now is running up against his ambition to please his movement and keep them cheering for him and so then he goes i developed it

and people say i'm getting a hair in my eye, people say that it saved hundreds of millions of lives because of me. And also, I understand why my movement doesn't like it, but it's good, but they think it's bad. And I get that they think it's bad, and I understand that it's bad, but it's good. And I've never understood this about the MAGA movement. I've tried to ask people at these rallies that I go to, if you believe these conspiracy theories about the vaccine it's a plot to put a microchip in you or whatever why is it that as you watch trump and he's softened up he stopped uh recently because of the booing and stuff at rallies but he has taken credit for multiple times the development so why do you not think that's Trump's conspiracy then? If he

multiple times has even taken too much credit for the vaccine, why is it that you don't think he's a part of the conspiracy theory? And there's always some bizarre answer of, well, no, he trusted people and they were lying to him and this, that, and the other thing. But it is one of the rare issues where Trump's movement, and we correctly identify the hardcore MAGA supporters as cultists, where almost everything they're fully in line with Trump on. He can say, all of a sudden, grass is purple, boom, grass is purple. Except on this, even when he tried to say, hey, the vaccine though, kind of good, huh?

They rejected it. And you probably remember pretty infamous moments where he gets booed at rallies over this issue. And that's why he stopped talking about it. And the movement rejected his line on it, which is very strange for this cult-like movement. And then the other interesting thing that will be fascinating and terrifying to watch in this GOP primary field is the fact that DeSantis is using this issue to attack Trump. So then Trump is going to try to run away from this issue and make the whole movement likely even more detached from reality on the subject of the medical community and the science on vaccines. And so DeSantis has been saying Trump was too in line with Dr. Fauci, which if you were around

during that time is wild for someone to believe. But genuinely, DeSantis is constantly saying Trump was too pro-Fauci, too pro-vaccine, too, too pro mandate. So then Trump likely will have to argue, no, no, no, I'm not. No, I was so irresponsible. I promise I did not handle anything correctly or in line with the medical community. And that will be the argument. And that's a very sad, dangerous and concerning reflection on the modern state of the Republican Party. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be back with much more after this. One of our sponsors is Ounce of Hope, offering high quality THC cannabis products shipped right to your door anywhere in the US, 100 percent federally legal, giving my listeners 20 percent off. Ounce of Hope is an aquaponics cannabis company, which means that their process is sustainably

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I personally have criticized a lot. He endorsed Trump in 2016. We have so many differences, but at least he's a Republican who's willing to actually aggressively, accurately criticize Donald Trump. And that's rare in this current political environment. And it's good to see, especially within presidential candidates and Chris Christie does it really effectively. And so I know David's gone through examples in the past, and I have another one for you here. Chris Christie mocking Trump over his indictment. And the question of Trump is, do you trust his judgment? He's showing us his judgment. They are literally begging him to return the documents,

letter after letter from the National Archives. Then they send a grand jury subpoena. That should get any normal person's attention. Nope. Why doesn't it? I mean, you've been around the guy a lot. Because he is so overwrought that he lost to Biden. And I can't blame him.

I mean, Joe Biden's never beat anybody outside of Delaware in his entire career. Right. And now you lose to him. He doesn't want to believe he's not president anymore. And when the raid happened, I had a bunch of people said to me, well, why do you think he kept the documents? Is he going to sell them to a foreign government? Is he going to blackmail somebody? I'm like, you people are nuts. You don't know Donald Trump. This is all about showing off.

That's why he kept them, because he wanted to continue to pretend to be president. Think about this. He would ship the documents to Bedminster for summer vacation, like they're a frigging family member. Oh, we're going off for summer vacation. Don't forget the documents what's he doing with the documents all summer here's an alert to him you are no longer president you don't need to have the documents around you anymore you don't need them you're out it's absurd absurd is an understatement And I do think that that played into this and that could be a central part of why he held on to these documents. He couldn't accept that he still had this information because as of now we don't have any evidence that he was doing anything beyond that with the classified sensitive

information he had his hands on and so within that context it leaves you wondering what the heck was he risking violating the law for why was he holding on to this and it's because of his own insecurity sensitivity and ambition to constantly stroke his own ego and uh this plays into a lot both of these situations are dangerous but the second situation where this applies is the most dangerous possible one which is the election part of the reason that he just could not and cannot or chooses to not stop lying about the 2020 election is he is deep down to his core so deeply insecure and sensitive that he can't accept that he lost to Joe Biden. He can't accept that he lost the election. And so instead, he has built this whole alternate reality that he can live in.

And his followers will support him in that. And that's what we're seeing with all this election tonight. That's what we're seeing with the anti-democratic efforts by his movement. Because at the end of the day, he couldn't accept in 2020 that he lost. It's as simple as that and it is pretty wild to think about Both with the classified information and with his election and I how it comes down to a deeply insecure broken Narcissistic man, and that's pretty stunning. Here's more from Chris Christie during a different recent Foxy's interview Oh, you got to take with grain of salt everything he says, including last night saying he didn't

have time to go through the boxes that the government was asking him for for a year and a half because he's too busy. Every picture I saw Donald Trump since he left the White House is him on a golf course playing golf. Maybe he could have spent a few hours going through the boxes so we could avoid what's happening here to the country. Yeah, that was completely nonsense. He said during that Fox News interview, oh, I was just going through the documents because I didn't have or I was holding on to the documents because I didn't have time to go through them and I had to get my personal things out.

Really? That's why you conspired with other individuals to keep it out of the hands of federal authorities and lied to federal authorities and did all these different things to keep the documents just because you didn't have enough time? As you're spending, as Chris Christie pointed out, days upon days on the golf course? I don't think so, Donald. Well, Lauren Boebert is pushing to impeach Biden. Whoa, you'll never guess it. Seems to be now the move that a lot of these MAG Republicans take whenever they don't feel like they're getting enough attention, they're not relevant enough within the news cycle. I'm going to impeach Biden for anything, whatever. So I'll first show you a recent interview where he talks about why she's impeaching Joe Biden. And then we'll look at her on the House floor advocating for her articles of impeachment.

The single greatest country in the world. I introduce these articles of impeachment not for personal gain or even political popularity. I introduced articles of impeachment on behalf of the American people. And if there are members of Congress in the Republican conference who don't want to bring this up and debate it in committee, then I will make sure that a privileged resolution comes to the floor and force members of Congress to vote on these articles of impeachment. I'm tired of waiting around. Americans all across the country are screaming that we need to do something. They're tired of only having hearings and investigations and just talking heads on TV saying what they

want to do or what they're going to do. And so I made sure I drafted these articles of impeachment in a manner that I could call them up for a vote at any time. So I want to see if they're going to bring them up in committee. And if not, then we are going to force this on the House floor and really hold members of Congress in a place and in a position to say, do you think that this man should stay in office or not? Now, of course, we... Okay. So apparently it's over the border, the southern border, which is yet another example of many of these Republicans choosing the political attacks, the political stunts over a real discussion about actual solutions

in regard to problems that we do experience with our southern border. They've been around for a while, humanitarian problems logistical systemic and there are real discussions that should be had there are real reforms that we can make but none of that can happen if we're over here having to deal with lauren bobert's impeachment of joe biden and apparently we'll get to in a later segment mar Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert clashing, it seems over this because Marjorie Taylor Greene is unhappy. I guess that Lauren Boebert's taking her limelight. But Kevin McCarthy, the Speaker of the House, is also apparently frustrated with this. This is from CBS. A push by some House Republicans to impeach President Biden has become the latest headache for House Speaker Kevin McCarthy caused by conservative hardliners. GOP Representative Lauren Boebert of Colorado

introduced articles of impeachment against Mr. Biden on Tuesday as a privileged resolution, fast-tracking its consideration under House rules by circumventing the normal committee process. The articles focused on the president's handling of the U.S.-Mexico border and immigration. On Wednesday, McCarthy expressed frustration with Boebert, calling her effort to impeach Mr. Biden premature. She had never told members about it or never talked to me, McCarthy told reporters. Before you put something forward, shouldn't you first talk to the conference about it? Because we're doing investigations.

Why would you do this? We're doing investigations. We're doing one political stunt lauren why are you making it messy with another political stunt but despite the frustration she is charging forward and this was her on the house floor recently to seek recognition mr speaker pursuant to clause 2a1 of rule 9 i rise to give notice of my intent to raise a question of the privileges of the House. The form of the resolution is as follows. H. Rez 503 impeaching Joseph R. Biden Jr., president of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors.

Resolved that Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors resolved that Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors and that the following articles of impeachment be exhibited to the to the United States Senate articles of impeachment exhibited by the House of Representatives of the United States of America in the name of itself does anyone else get the sense that when she's doing stuff and this is different than a lot of uh bad faith actors she seems deeply confused about what she's doing a lot of individuals they know what they're doing it's bad it's dishonest they might not be knowledgeable people but they at least know what's going on and they're just doing bad things lauren bober is doing bad things but seems to be deeply confused about what she's

even doing um what's going on here which is fascinating um make sure you are subscribed to the david packman show make sure you're subscribed to my channel luke beasley on youtube to get more of what you're getting now. And after the break, we'll talk about Lauren Bober and Marjorie Taylor Greene seemingly over this subject, exchanging some words. cutting myself or getting those nicks on my skin, which are so common with the cheap disposable razors. You have to meet our sponsor, Henson Shaving. Henson actually manufactures parts for the International Space Station and the Mars rover, and they are bringing that exact same precision engineering to the shaving experience. It hurts when you shave because blades extend too far and thus they wobble

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feud has exploded it is pretty bonkers what we're about to talk about um so of course marjorie taylor green lauren bobert two of the most radical most extreme mag republicans super detached from reality super anti-democratic, super dangerous. But despite being similar in those ways, apparently, personally, they very much despise one another. And we talked about in the last segment the fact that Lauren Boebert is now trying to impeach Joe Biden. And it seems based on that and some other things that have built up, but that has been or that is for this story kind of the spark uh marjorie taylor green is very upset with lauren bobert because she feels like lauren bobert is copying her or taking her attention very strange and this built to reportedly a moment

of marjorie taylor green calling la Boebert as the Daily Beast writes. And actually, I'm trying to think about the radio and television affiliates of the David Packman show. I'll just say for this story, little b word, okay? I think you can figure out what that is. This is from the Daily Beast. Marjorie Taylor Greene calls Boebert a little b on the house floor. The messy feud between two of MAGA world's biggest stars burst into public

view on Wednesday when Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene called Representative Lauren Boebert a little bee to her face on the floor of the house, a U.S. House of Representatives. The angry exchange came as the two lawmakers have been swiping at each other over their competing, this is so, their competing resolutions to impeach President Joe Biden. I want to impeach Biden. No, I want to impeach Biden. But tensions came to a head on Wednesday after Boebert leveraged a procedural tool to force a vote on her own impeachment resolution.

We talked about that in the last segment within days undercutting Green, who had offered her own resolution, but not with the procedural advantages of forcing a vote look at yourself maga look at yourself in the mirror uh green apparently cursed out bobert while the house was voting wednesday afternoon as the two spoke in a center aisle we'll look at this video in a moment of the house floor part of their interaction was captured on C spans cameras According to sources that saw the exchange and a third familiar with the matter the back-and-forth began when Boa approached green Then seated in the chamber and confronted her over statements You made about me publicly all three of the sources said green called Bobert a B

One of the sources said green called her a little B so you can take your pick on which one you think actually Boebert a B. One of the sources said Green called her a little B. So you can take your pick on which one you think actually happened. Not a really big difference to me. Apparently Green said that Boebert copied her articles of impeachment, but Boebert denies that. So that is as immature and as MAGA GOP as it gets. And here's the video. There is no audio of them saying this, but we can just imagine. Take your conversations to the back, off the floor.

For what purpose does the gentlewoman... Order, please. Okay. For what purpose does the gentlewoman from Florida, Mrs. Lona... I'll mute the video, but you can see it seems somewhat heated just by what you're watching on screen, but with the added context of what is being reported, what a moment.

And you combine that with what we saw during the speaker vote where Matt Gaetz was lunged at by another member and there's just chaos within this MAGA GOP. And is that necessarily a reflection of how outrageous their policy positions and rhetoric otherwise are? No. But it is interesting that the party with the most dangerous views also happens to be a chaotic mess with low character interpersonally it just so happens and i think those things tend to coincide that that's the characteristic of this movement as well you could never imagine with all the differences democrats will have you remember

there was a big divide between joe manchin and progressive democrats during kind of the build back better debate era and you can never imagine something like that happening. There's a level of seriousness, professionalism, and maturity within the Democratic Party that apparently is just completely evaporating within the Republican Party. Pretty wild. And it's all over their argument over who should get the attention, I guess, for impeaching Joe Biden. Make sure you are subscribed to my YouTube channel if you want to get more of what you're getting today. Luke Beasley on YouTube. Presidential candidate Ron DeSantis posted a very bizarre

video where he's standing in San Francisco next to a wall with some graffiti on it talking about how San Francisco is collapsing, it's gone to hell, and it's all terrible because of leftist policies. He looks noticeably confused, disoriented, talking about this subject, and we'll dive more deeply into this subject after taking a look at this. Look around, the city is not vibrant anymore. It's really collapsed because of leftist policies. And these policies have caused people to flee this area. They don't prosecute criminals like they do in most parts of the country.

And the wreckage has really, really been sad to see. And so I've seen so many businesses boarded up. I've seen so much riffraff just running around. And it just shows you these policies matter. Leadership matters. They are doing it wrong here. Look around. Okay, so up front I'll say, does San Francisco have its problems like all places?

Absolutely. Are there specific policy decisions that have probably been made that I would disagree with? Sure. But what I really wish that a lot of these GOP politicians that talk about New York City has gone to hell and Los Angeles and San Francisco, it's all terrible because of democratic policies. I wish they would answer for the fact that when you look nationwide, the trend is actually Republican policies fail people on all of these different metrics and why is it that you're now over here in san francisco concerned about the leftist policies when there are places far closer to home you could be concerned about under your leadership ronda sanders and what i mean by that this is an interesting piece from cnn um that was put out in the wake of the murder of Bob Lee that points out the point that I'm making here.

We'll read from this. The stabbing death of cash out founder Bob Lee has prompted comments perpetuating the notion that San Francisco is dangerous and crime riddled. But data shows violent crime, especially homicides, are well below that of many other cities of similar size and if you jump down here san francisco recorded 56 homicides each in 2022 and 2021 but when you skip down to or jump down to a place near ron desantis jacksonville florida meanwhile saw 129 homicides in 2021 and 154 in 2022 not to mention countless other places we could talk about with higher crime rates or higher homicide rates specifically there it's not to say san francisco doesn't have its problems or other places don't have the problems all of them matter but the dishonesty of this notion that is pushed by

many republicans that democratic policies lead to high crime democratic policies lead to high poverty or whatever it might be it's just not accurate we talked about um or i should say i've talked about my own show previously countless times a study that was done that i know pacman has mentioned um as well that looked at in 2020 homicide rates in states that voted for trump typically red states that also have red governance and um states that voted for joe biden in 2020 and what it found was states that voted for trump have a 40 percent higher um homicide rate and that's DeSantis is never going to post a little video about, right? He's never going to go on the ground to one of those red places to discuss

that fact. And then also when you look at the top states in ranking for poverty, you have Mississippi, New Mexico, Louisiana, Alabama, Kentucky, Arkansas, Georgia, District of Columbia, West Virginia, Tennessee. What you'll notice there, almost all red states. And again, I'm not saying that because ha ha ha, absolutely not. I'm not saying that because we shouldn't also care about problems in blue areas. I'm saying that because it highlights the dishonesty coming from people like ron desantis and it's important to realize actually investing more in communities as democrats are more willing to do investing more in those who need the help it benefits everyone it benefits the community it It lifts people up in all places, in all levels of the

economic ladder. And that's why these types of policies yield better results. And I wish Ronda Sands would make a video about that. Well, James Comer is joining the ranks of Republican politicians calling for the defunding of the police, the federal police, but still the police, the FBI more specifically. And I have for you here a moment from a recent interview where he says this, that he wants to defund the FBI. And then right after it, this is a little combination of two clips. You'll see a past clip of him talking about how against defund the police he is. And before we dive into it, I'm someone who never supported the defund the police proposal. I don't currently. And it was a relatively small part of the left. But based on that small part

of the left that at least was responding to an actual problem that should be addressed just with what I saw as an incorrect solution being put forward, that became a campaign item for the right to this day. The left wants to defund the police. Oh my gosh. Even though again, relatively small part of the left. Now it's them who wants to defund the police. I have no confidence in the FBI. We need to reform the FBI from top to bottom. And that should be a major priority for the Republican majority. And at the very least, we need to significantly cut their funding. Of all the things that I've heard in my three and a half years in Congress that I disagree with, that I think isn't a very good policy, I think that the movement to defund the police is probably the

dumbest thing that I've ever heard of. And it bothers me deeply because we have to have law enforcement, especially in times where there's a lot of anxiety, there's a lot of disagreement. We need to maintain law and order. And our law enforcement personnel put their lives on the line every day. So I want to go on the record. And I hope that every one of my colleagues in Congress will go on the record to say that we strongly support our men and women in law enforcement. And certainly certainly uh never want to defund the police so and now defund federal law enforcement he says and so this is important to point out number one because of the hypocrisy and related to that because uh we can't take at face value a lot of these republican politicians statements about having

a certain principle we're opposed to that because of this principle because often the second that principle is no longer politically advantageous is no longer a principle which means they never had an authentic principle it's not about wanting to support law enforcement. It's about at that time he was okay with the state of law enforcement. Now, based on fabrication of what federal law enforcement is doing, he's not okay and he does want to defund. He does think that's the solution. It's contradictory. It's hypocritical. But it's something we've gotten very used to with a lot of these Republican politicians. And the other reason it's important to point this out is because it's so absurd, as I've now mentioned a couple times. At least defund the police after, at least when it got very prominent, after the murder of George Floyd was in response to, was trying to put forward a solution to something real. This is putting forward a solution to a fake problem that the federal

government that the fbi is being weaponized against conservatives that's not happening it's made up and that's what's sad and unfortunate about so many of these republican talking points they come from a place of fabricated fear-mongeringering subjects and issues that are created. And I wish the supporters of individuals like James Comer could wake up to the fact that the reason James Comer likes talking so much about his accusations against Biden and investigating Biden and we got to go after the FBI and the FBI is coming after you is because that's just words. That's just talk.

That's easy. That's not actually coming up with an implementing policy solutions that improve your life in a significant way. So he'll take easy street if you'll let him. But I wish Republican voters would not let individuals like James Comer continue to do that. Are you tired of getting crushed in the market or the volatility? There is some good news, which is that Treasury yields are surging. You can now get a whopping five percent yield on Treasury bills that is higher than any high yield savings account that I have seen.

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very full. Will Hurd, like I said, was a congressman and he also worked in the cia and he's kind of known as a more moderate republican and he is more moderate he's criticized trump it's another example though of someone who i don't really understand how he fits into the picture how he would win a republican primary with how maga the gop is right now. But here's this from CNN. Former Texas Representative Will Hurd launches 2024 bid for GOP presidential nomination. Former Texas Representative Will Hurd on Thursday launched a bid for the 2024

Republican presidential nomination, joining a crowded field looking to challenge frontrunner former President Donald Trump. We'll look at him talking about why he announced in just a moment. But continuing, Hurd has been outspoken in his criticism of Trump following the former president's indictment on federal charges over his alleged mishandling of classified documents. Trump has pleaded not guilty to all charges. And then, interestingly, it lists everyone in the race right now, in case you've forgotten. You have DeSantis.

You have Mike Pence. You have Tim Scott. You have Nikki Haley, you have Asa Hutchinson, Chris Christie, Doug Burgum, Vivek Ramaswamy, Francis Juarez and Larry Elder. And now Will Hurd. So with that being said, here's this from CBS Mornings where he's making this announcement. I want to let everybody know that this morning I filed to be the Republican nominee for president of the United States. This is a decision that my wife and I decided to do because we live in complicated times and we need common sense. There are a number of generational defining challenges that we're faced with in the United States of America. Everything from the Chinese government trying to surpass us as the global superpower. The fact that inflation is persistent at a time when technologies like

artificial intelligence is going to upend every single industry. And our kids, their scores in math, science and reading are the lowest they've ever been in this century. These are the issues we should be talking about. And to be frank, I'm pissed that we're not talking about these things. I'm pissed that our elected officials are telling us to hate our neighbors. Our neighbors are not our enemies. They're our fellow Americans who we just happen to have a disagreement with. These are the issues that we should be talking about.

And I believe the Republican Party can be the party that talks about the future, not the past. We should be putting out a vision of how do we have unprecedented peace? How do we have a thriving economy? How do we make sure our kids have a world class education, education, regardless of their. We'll stop it there. But, you know, it's interesting. I have a former Republican friend who still a friend for Republican, to be clear. And he's constantly emailing me different people he thinks could be a good presidential option. And he's like, obviously, i know you differ with this person

because i'm not a republican and any conservative i'm going to disagree with severely but would send me more respectable options do you think they would have a chance would they have a chance would they have a chance in this republican primary and i've had to explain multiple times unfortunately even though there are a lot of people that i disagree with a lot but wish would be more prominent within the gop so that we could have a more healthy, vibrant political discussion. Unfortunately, this current GOP base, at least there are moderate Republicans that still exist. But the base that's the engine that drives the agenda is so extreme. that the only person who really had a shot of defeating Trump was someone like DeSantis, who was trying to be a little Trump 2.0 and failing miserably, apparently.

And it is, yes, terrifying. It's so unfortunate, but that's the reality. And so all these people who are jumping in, someone like Chris Christie that we talked about earlier, or Will Hurd, who would be far better than Trump. They're not going to have a shot because of that fact, because they are more reasonable than Trump. And that's just not what's selling right now within the MAGA Republican Party base. You guys are probably familiar with Jessica Tarloff on Fox News. She's the one liberal host on The Five, and she just does a really good job of effectively knocking down a lot of these right wing talking points in real time as they're being spewed on The Five by the other hosts.

And I have an example of that for you here in relation to Hunter Biden. And producer Pat on yesterday's show talked about how Hunter Biden is expected to plead guilty to two misdemeanor charges in relation to not paying his taxes he has since but he um did it for a time there for two years and um he's pleading guilty to those charges misdemeanors and then will have a felony charge in relation to lying on a form about getting a firearm um even though he was addicted to a controlled substance he said that he wasn't and uh that allowed him to get that firearm and so that felony charge is going to be dismissed if he follows through with certain guidelines and of course you can expect and i think producer pat predicted this yesterday the right wing has been saying this is a big uh

example of the two-tier justice system it's a sweetheart deal and he's being treated with kid gloves because he's hunter biden and see this is this is what we've been saying but in reality it's not an example of that it's not an example of hunter biden getting preferential treatment as jessica tarloff will point out very nicely i will note these charges and the investigation didn't uncover or doesn't have to do with all these accusations we've heard from the right wing so that's part of the reason why they're really unhappy and want this to be an example of the two-tier justice system yeah i could i could it's certainly been trickling out since saturday which was the first official campaign

event and then hunter was going to be a major talking point on the campaign. And that is slowly going away, but for good reason. So to try to tackle all the points that everybody made, which were a plenty. So what Hunter is not guilty of is being a Republican. But there's a Republican very closely allied with Trump named Roger Stone, who did worse than Hunter Biden. So he tax evaded $2 million, not $1.2 million, $2 million. And guess what happened? He was allowed to pay it back and he wasn't even criminally charged. Hunter Biden, criminally charged, could face probation. Roger Stone, top guy to Donald Trump, skates free on that. It seems- Wait, didn't they raid his house? Yeah, I was just going to say, isn't he the guy that went in and guns are blazing?

No, you say guns are blazing about everyone just because someone is carrying a gun. No one shot up any houses. No one was forced out of their house in their underpants. That was the one where they tipped off CNN, though, to be there for the helicopters. The huge crime of having CNN there. Okay. But I like the fact that you like guns now. I really don't. And actually, I think that fact that you like guns now. I really don't.

And actually, I think that there should be stricter gun control in this country. But if you look at the DOJ records about how often what Hunter Biden did is actually charged, it's basically now 200 a little Wayne. Do you notice I didn't interrupt a single person on the panel? So just give me a second. I'm sorry in 2019 there were 290 k 98 cases brought of people falsifying their gun application records out of 27 million background checks that were completed that's the year that hunter biden got that weapon that means that this is something that doesn't get charged if you want to say to the doj you should be charging on this go ahead and do that but there's no reason that hunter absolutely so number one just surface level thing if you're a viewer of fox news and you see that don't you think that i mean just the the way the style in which they present information the difference between jessica

tarlov and the other hosts and how they're jumping in like children well what about this oh you like guns now and not actually making serious points while she's calmly presenting actual uh facts just the aesthetic seems clear separate from the substance of the points that are also clearly better um to be a much more of depth presentation of the facts but on the substance of what she's talking about it's important that we go one by one so that later on as they list off all the reasons they think there's a 2-2 justice system we can reference all the different debunkings that have been done by us as well me david packman whoever it might be because as this narrative gets built, it becomes all these examples that on their own, as we'll talk about here as we are currently, aren't actually examples of the two-tier justice system.

But people don't hear that, and so they get a bunch of examples. See, Hunter Biden got this deal, and it's a sweetheart deal. Just believe us, but we're not providing evidence of that. Or the FBI did this thing and that thing that we're not really providing evidence for and so then people have a collection of examples in their heads and they think oh my gosh surely even if i hear one thing get knocked down here and there surely there is this two-tier justice system that hurts republicans and benefits democrats because of all these examples i've been hearing when in reality if we go one by one they don don't hold water. They're not examples of Biden weaponizing the government against conservatives or to benefit his son or to benefit Democrats. It's just not something that's happening. the Miami arrest of Trump, as many of you guys saw and talked to a lot of Trump supporters as

they were really unhappy. And I would ask them, OK, so you read the indictment and you think that the evidence is not real or do you think that the law doesn't apply here or why do you think this is so horrible that Trump's being held accountable? And I think every person said, well, I haven't read the indictment or haven't read the whole indictment. Most of them just said, I haven't even seen the indictment. So then how could you possibly know that this is an example of Trump being politically persecuted? And then it would be, well, what about why, oh, that's not an example of unfair treatment. That's an example of that being a different case with different facts that was investigated and is an example in reality of them being held accountable for the violations of the law in the case of Trump, of course, very prominently actually just fits into the worldview that's already been created for so many people that conservatives are being persecuted. One more example of this being fact checked real quick. Obviously, you're already hearing a lot of shouting, oh, sweetheart deal. Oh, this. Oh, that. None of us really knows the details of the possible charges here and exactly what was agreed to as part of this plea, Jennifer. But how do how does one assess whether this is the type

of deal that a normal person, not a president's child, would get in this circumstance? So you would look to other similar cases, right? So on the gun form charge, it's very, very standard for someone in this situation who lies on the form because they're an addict. The gun is long gone. Apparently only had it for a couple of weeks. It's very standard in these circumstances for this diversion to occur and to wipe out the charges, assuming he successfully completes it. So that's totally standard. And the tax fraud is similar as well. I mean, he paid those taxes back a long time ago. That's something that DOJ takes very, very seriously when negotiating these deals. And I'll also say that Hunter Biden was an addict at the time. And so there was discussion of this

back when this investigation got going. When you're talking about a drug addict, you have to think about whether you can prove the men's right. If this goes to trial, is he going to be able to undercut their case about whether he knowingly and willfully didn't pay his taxes? So given all of that and given similar cases with tax fraud, this is not a sweetheart deal. It's a deal. I think it's a good deal for Hunter Biden in that he will stay out of prison and end up with only two misdemeanors on his right. Right. So facts matter. And if you look at the facts of this case, it doesn't fall within the narrative that they're trying to build day after day. Thank you all so much for watching today's show. Again, you can find me at Luke Beasley on YouTube. And if you're a member, I'll see you on the bonus show. Again, you can find me at Luke Beasley on YouTube. And if you're a member, I'll see you

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