The David Pakman Show - 6/5/23: Anti-woke in shambles as drag ban collapses, 24 GOP primary goes nuclear

Episode Date: June 5, 2023

-- On the Show: --Utah's right wing book ban backfires as the Bible is now banned in some schools, and the Book of Mormon is being considered for a ban -- The anti-woke movement suffers another defeat as the Tennessee drag ban is found unconstitutional -- Donald Trump's Fox News town hall goes so terribly, even friendly host Sean Hannity can't make Trump look good -- Donald Trump holds a disastrous series of speeches in different parts of Iowa -- Donald Trump is confronted by an anti-vaccine lunatic, the latest example of losing control of the monster you've created -- Florida Republican Governor Ron DeSantis enters a "woke" coma, uttering the word numerous times while essentially saying nothing -- Casey DeSantis, the wife of Ron DeSantis, steals Donald Trump's "tears in their eyes" meme and tells her own version of the story -- 2024 Republican candidates Nikki Haley, and previously Ron DeSantis, are asked to define woke, and are unable to do so in any manner that makes sense -- Radical Republican Congresswoman Lauren Boebert is caught lying about her non-vote in the debt ceiling bill by hilarious video of her sprinting outside the US Capitol -- Twitter is collapsing under Elon Musk's leadership, with ad sales down 59% and multiple high level employees quitting -- Voicemail caller has an interesting question about vegetables and evolution -- On the Bonus Show: US fighter jets respond to unresponsive aircraft near DC, Saudi Arabia cuts oil production to increase prices, Disney welcomes gays as DeSantis battle rages, much more... 🩺 Wild Health: Get 20% OFF with code PAKMAN at https://wildhealth.com/pakman 🦛 Happy Hippo: Use code PAKMAN for 20% off at https://happyhippo.com/pakman 🏠 Watch David’s “Replace Your Mortgage” interview at https://replaceyouruniversity.com/pakman 👂 MDHearing: Just $149.99 each + free charging case. Use code PAKMAN at https://mdhearing.com 💻 Get Private Internet Access for 83% OFF + 4 months free at https://www.piavpn.com/David 🧠 Mindbloom: Use code PAKMAN for $100 off at https://mindbloom.com/pakman -- Become a Supporter: http://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/thedavidpakmanshow -- Subscribe to Pakman Live: https://www.youtube.com/pakmanlive -- Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/davidpakmanshow -- Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave us a message at The David Pakman Show Voicemail Line (219)-2DAVIDP

. Well, welcome, everybody. I hope you had a great weekend. It was an insane weekend of political happenings and news and events. And I want to start with two examples of anti woke backfires. Now, later in the program, we'll get back into the perversion of the term woke. We don't have to do that here, but we're first going to talk about one of these anti woke book bands completely and totally backfiring. I told you weeks ago that in Utah there was already an attempt made to ban the Bible from

public school libraries specifically because of the rule that right wingers put in place about violent and sexual content in books. And indeed, that has now succeeded in some schools. NPR reports a Utah school district has removed the Bible from the school from some schools shelves, frustrated with book challenges and bans in their school district. A parent in Utah submitted a complaint of their own about the Bible. Now, good for the Davis School District. They took the objection objection seriously. They placed the Bible under review and the district officially decided to remove the religious text from elementary and middle school libraries for containing vulgarity

or violence. The ban takes effect immediately, with Bibles being removed from classrooms even as they close down for the summer. Additionally, the Book of Mormon is now under review as a result of the exact same thing. So let's talk about what's going on here. The Utah book ban by right wingers is a case of censorship backfiring. The ban was hoping to block the normal, the usual suspects, right? Books on LGBTQ plus topics or by certain authors of a particular identity, racial issues, etc. But what it has led to because of how it is written, violent content, sexual content. The Bible is filled

with violent and sexual content. It has led to the Bible being removed for violence and sex. This shows a number of different important characteristics of this movement that we are now seeing. Number one, their hypocrisy, because all of the right wingers who said we like the rule opposed the removal of the Bible. And we've confronted some of them on the show and they call in, et cetera. And we say, well, hold on a second. If these are the rules, if this is the standard, if this is the barometer, the checklist, violent content, sexual content, here it is in the Bible.

Here's examples of violence in the Bible. Here's examples of sexual content in the Bible on it. So many of them, they say, well, that's different. Well, OK, in what way is it different? They can't really articulate any difference other than they don't want the Bible removed. The ban is also part of this law. So it's arbitrary. It's capricious.

It's hypocritical. The ban is also part really of a larger trend from the right of censorship while claiming the other side is doing the censoring and then using lawmakers and government to achieve that very censorship of which they accuse the other side. I am against book bans for a number of different reasons. Number one, they are taking teachers out of the decisions as to what materials are appropriate for children of what age and putting it in the hands of parents, parents whose expertise is not education, whose expertise is not literature, whose expertise is not a child development. So we're saying let's

give people who are less qualified the ability to decide what is in school libraries. They silence authors. They silence librarians. They damage the trust and the dialogue between schools and communities. And also they can have the very corrosive effect of tying schools up, not only in protests, but in legal challenges. That's not good for anybody. That's not good for learning as a progressive. Right. I'm a progressive. I'm not for censorship. I have to pause there. I know the right says we are the ones wanting to censor. No, no, no, no. I'm a progressive. I believe in the power of books to educate, empower and empathize. I believe in the power

of reading to develop vocabulary, language, knowledge, et cetera. I want to let teachers decide what's appropriate at which age maintain separation of church and state, meaning the Bible gets no special status. And when it comes to teaching religious texts, I'm not against teaching religious texts, but they shouldn't be in science class. They should be taught as religious texts, maybe in comparative literature, comparative religion class or something like that. Probably not to second graders would be my sense in a public school. So I oppose book bans and I oppose the book bans based on ideology and morality and common sense and all of these other things. I'm glad to have a dialogue. I'm glad to collaborate with teachers to determine what are the appropriate texts at different ages.

We might say, you know, I remember I think it was second grade when our teacher would read Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry, a book that in its unabridged version contains the N word. It contains violence about slavery, etc. Was it inappropriate for second graders? I don't think so. I remember being riveted, horrified to learn about the treatment of slaves and the legacy of slavery and all these things. Could you come out and say, you know, that's probably really better for like

third graders or fourth graders? Sure. I mean, listen, these are reasonable discussions saying we're going to ban the book. No, I don't think so. So I stand with the anti-censorship groups, the student groups, the teacher groups, et cetera. They are a threat. And now what we are seeing is this backfire on themselves in Utah as the Bible has been banned in some places. The Book of Mormon is now on the chopping block. This is the monster they created. They have no one to blame but themselves. Another major defeat for the anti woke clowns. This time it is that drag ban ruled unconstitutional. This is the beautiful detail, folks, by a Trump appointed judge. The Tennessee anti drag bill violates free speech and expression. It's too broad and too vague.

The Associated Press has a great report on this. Tennessee's first in the nation law designed to place strict limits on drag shows is unconstitutional. A federal judge says the law is both, quote, unconstitutionally vague and substantially overbroad and encourages discriminatory enforcement, according to the ruling late Friday by U.S. District Judge Thomas Parker, appointed by failed former President Donald Trump. Quote, There is no question that obscenity is not protected by the First Amendment, but there is a difference between material that is obscene in the vernacular and material that is obscene under the law. Simply put, no majority of the Supreme Court

has held that sexually explicit but not obscene speech receives less protection than political, artistic or scientific, scientific speech, said the judge. The article also says the law would have banned adult cabaret performances from public property or anywhere minors might be present. Performers who broke the law risk being charged with a misdemeanor or a felony for a repeat offense. This is a bonkers law. It deserved to be taken down. And so far, that is the decision. Now, will it be appealed? We will see. But we knew, you know, it's funny. It's important to let legal scholars and jurists weigh in on these things. But we could all see that the use of the word obscenity was being used, not as it is required

to be used under the law, but just colloquially. Oh, that's obscene. I don't know. I see a picture of a drag performer that's obscene and that's my opinion. That's not legally obscene. And that's actually what matters here. And good for the Trump appointed judge for pointing that out. The bill is vague. It's broad. It doesn't really define what is an adult cabaret performance. What is a male impersonator? It leaves room for

arbitrary enforcement, discriminatory enforcement. But the most important thing is, listen, the first obstacle is let's get a legal opinion that shows the nuts and bolts of this Tennessee anti-drag bill are ridiculous. That's step one. Step two, let's remember that it is again being pushed by hypocrites. Tennessee Governor Bill Lee, who previously dressed in drag, now says this is a danger to our children and this is the law we need. So they are hypocrites, legally problematic, hypocritical. But the zoom out the 30000 foot is that this one bill is just a part of the larger wave of the anti LGBT legislation that we're seeing in many right wing states. It's targeting trans youth. It's banning

gender affirming care. It's limiting access to bathrooms. It's doing all sorts of different things. And it's all motivated by the right saying now it is trans people who are the scapegoats. For a long time, it was gay men. Maybe for like a week it was lesbians. They never really were too worked up about lesbians. For a while it was gay men. Now they're shifting over to saying the problem is trans people and it's motivated by fear. It's motivated by misinformation. It depends on stereotypes and myths about. Remember, the first it was the stereotype and myth of the gay man is the pedophile. Didn't make any sense.

But gay men are interested in other gay men who have gone through puberty. We're not talking about pedophilia. Now they're applying that to trans people. People are going to say, oh, I put on a wig and now I'm a woman so I can hit on little girls in a bathroom. That's already illegal. Doesn't matter which bathroom you're in already against the law. Don't need any new laws to prevent that. And it also essentially never happens. And they're now targeting drag shows to completely benign. We interviewed a drag performer a few weeks ago who was very articulately able to explain

the absurdity of all of this. So the hope here is that if this decision is appealed, it will be upheld. Not that the bill will be upheld, that the unconstitutionality of banning drag shows will be upheld. And this is, again, another one of these issues where the right now is saying, look at all of these leftists wanting to die on the hill of drag shows. We're not the ones who started this thing. We're just saying the law should be enforced and the bills should be the laws should be evaluated for their constitutionality. It is because of the right making this an issue that this is an issue. Left wingers weren't going around saying, let's go

around creating defenses for drag shows. And for as long as the right keeps pushing these nonsense laws, my hope is that the left and sane thinking jurists are going to do what needs to be done to point out that the laws are not only hypocritical, capricious and unnecessary, but also unconstitutional in the way that this one is. Let's take a very quick break. Make sure you're subscribed on YouTube at YouTube dot com slash the David Pakman show. We are powering towards one point seven five million YouTube subscribers, which will put us within that final two hundred and fifty thousand subscriber push to two million. Be a part of it. We'll take a quick break and be right back. nutrition and exercise and sleep and supplements and all of those things. And the whole idea is just for you to function at your best. It's really a quite it's a simple goal, but it's a complex

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the room to this. OK, so those are cult members, as you can see, finishing up Vincent Bugliosi's book about the prosecution of the Manson murders. Many, many, many, many, many, many similarities between the family, as Manson's followers recalled, and Trump's followers, Trump bringing up. I mean, listen, I dare I'm not even going to tell you what he brings up because I don't know. I dare you to decode this clip from Trump during the town hall. Oh, boy. And the clip is glitching badly. Let's hope we don't have this. This would become a humiliating segment. Hold on. Here we go. And your soldiers, believe me, that's going to be like the greatest deal you've ever made is to give us the twenty eight thousand. And they gave us twenty eight thousand soldiers free of charge. And they stop people. You know, they have no rules

that you're not allowed to talk fresh to somebody or they put you in jail for the rest of your life. These soldiers are tough soldiers in that sense. So are ours. But our soldiers are told to do things that are horrible. I am. It's I'm as clueless as you are about what he's talking about. If you speak a little bit harshly, can you imagine if you go back to MacArthur and you go back to some of these tough generals, they wouldn't be able to be thrown out of the military. How about Patton used to slap, slap him around? You get out there and you've three people clapping about Patton slapping people. He would have been out within two days.

He would have been out of the military. Look, we've gone. We've gone so bad. It's so sad what's happened. Yep. OK, completely unintelligible word salads and the crowd just cheers for anything, anything he says the crowd cheers for. Trump did make an interesting claim.

Trump says that he got CNN to do his town hall at eight instead of nine, specifically to not compete with his friend Sean Hannity and take away ratings. Isn't that something Speaker 1 get their best rating in 11 years? That's pretty good. You know, normally, normally if you do that, you have a success. So they got their best ratings and they want to fire the head of CNN. So it's supposed to everything is like April Fool's Day nowadays, right?

You get good ratings. You're supposed to get a bonus. Right. And you know what I did? I said, I'll do the show, but I'm not going against Sean Hannity. Is that right? That's why I was on at eight o'clock. They had me at nine. I said, wait a minute, nine. Sean's on at nine. I said, nope, I'm not doing it. They said, well, then we'll call it off. I said, I don't care. They wanted to do it. I didn't want

to do it. They said, we'll do it at eight. Now, how nice is that? There you go. Nice little favor to Sean Hannity. And as with most of these stories, number one, completely irrelevant to whether Trump would improve this country as president. And number two, we never know whether these stories are fabricated whole cloth or whether there's even a grain of truth to them. Trump reacting to Ron DeSantis claiming he'll have eight years to improve the country. Trump saying you really don't need eight years. I only need six months. People say, oh, you can't.

It's just like when I hear the sanctus, when I hear the sanctimonious come and say, we need eight years again. If he needs eight years, don't vote for him. I'll have that. This country will be hopping in six months and a lot of it's going to do with energy. And it will be hot in six months. You know, it's funny. Trump could become president.

And then on the day of the inauguration, January twenty twenty five, if the economy looks like it looks now, Trump will just point to the existing numbers. He'll say, look, unemployment so low, black unemployment so low, wages are up, inflation is down, stock market steady. There is no way. Of course, the economy will be hopping in six months because the economy is doing fine right now. Could we have a recession, a depression?

Of course we always could. But this idea that it's a disaster and Trump will fix it. Laughable, laughable idea. Trump then pulls out this claim that he'll end the Ukraine Russia war in 24 hours. Hannity actually says, how will you do it? And as you can see, very shaky. Trump's going Trump's got the talking point down. I'll end the war in 24 hours. He needs to figure out what to say when people ask him, how will you do that? But I want to stop the war. I don't want that war to continue. And I'll stop that war. Mark my words. I'll stop that war in 24 hours. But we're in a position.

The only way he could stop in 24 hours would be to force Ukraine to fold. I can't think of any other way he could end it in 24 hours. Mr. President, let me ask a serious question. How do you stop that war in 24 hours? I know both. And frankly, Zelensky was very good because, you know, he was part of the phone call and he said he didn't say anything wrong to me. The Democrat could have gone and grandstand and said, well, I felt threatened. I felt threatened. He didn't. I get along with him. Democrats could have gone in grandstand and said, well, I felt threatened. I felt threatened. He didn't. I got along with him.

I get along with Putin. It's it would have been much easier to stop it before it started. Putin would have never done this would have been much easier. Right now it's a mess. Now they're hitting Kiev and they're hitting all sorts of things that weren't supposed to be hit. Right. The country is being decimated.

By the way, the deaths are far more than their report. You know, when they say not if you're waiting for the answer, it's not in here. An apartment house has got knocked down and two people got hurt. They now know hundreds of people died. The the numbers are much different than what you're being told. I will get them into a room and they will. And I know an exact way. Number one, you tell one, you're not going to get anything unless you make a deal. You tell the other one, they're going to get a lot unless you make a deal. And you just sit them and you put them in and you have to make a determination. And I'm telling you, the crowd

convinced by this completely unintelligible, meaningless explanation from Trump as to how he will broker peace between Ukraine and Russia within 24 hours. Trump also during this deranged town hall taking credit for ending Roe v. Wade, which, by the way, was not a very popular change with the majority of Americans. I don't know that I'd be bragging about this. This might be why Republicans didn't do so well in the twenty twenty two midterms. I didn't think when I started my radio career in 1987, I'd be talking a lot about, but education, kids,

gender identity classes, CRT. I never thought we'd really have this deep debate about whether or not biological men could be playing in women's sports. So crazy. On all of these issues, you know, what is the best way that you see to settle? Well, I did something that nobody thought was possible. I got rid of Roe v. Wade. And by doing

that, it put pro-lifers in a very strong negotiating position. Now they're negotiating different things. And, you know, I happen to be of the Ronald Reagan school in terms of exemptions where you have the life of the mother, rape and incest. Rape, incest, mother's life. So you have that. And I think, you know, for me, that's something that works very well. And for probably 80, 85 percent, because don't forget, we do have to win elections. But I did something that nobody could do. And I also made them the radicals because they are willing and able to kill babies in the ninth month. They're willing to kill babies.

That's radical pro-life isn't radical. OK, so this is crazy stuff. Of course, it's all untrue. But if I were Trump, I don't know that I'd be bragging about ending Roe v. Wade, given the unpopularity of that decision. And then lastly, here is Trump again, unintelligible, I guess, talking about documents and Chinatown. I don't know. I mean, these these rants really are putting putting linguists through their paces. I have the right to declassify as president. He's got eighteen hundred and fifty boxes that he doesn't want anyone to see. He had seven or eight boxes in Chinatown in Washington, D.C., where nobody or eight boxes in Chinatown in Washington, D.C., where nobody even speaks English in Chinatown. Chinatown is very it's it's in

favor of China. Yeah, Chinatown is in favor of China. So even with the most friendly questions, almost no pushback other than like, oh, like, how would you end the war in 24 hours? Trump unable to coherently put together a policy vision. There's nothing he's not articulating any policy vision other than to sanctimonious is bad and Joe Biden's bad and so on and so forth. Now, if you thought that the Fox Town Hall was bad, just wait until you see Trump's speeches. Over the weekend in Iowa, failed former President Donald Trump gave a number of speeches in

different parts of the state of Iowa, an early state in the primary process and an important state. He gave a speech in Urbandale. He gave a speech in Des Moines. He gave a speech in Grimes and potentially others as well. Now I mean, it's almost automatically satirical. The crowd chanting USA when Trump enters. You are.

You are. You are. You are. You are. You are. You are. You are. You are.

You are. You are. You are. You are. You are. I want to thank you. This was a little bit of a surprise for you. I heard. But there you go. Trump's surprising the crowd and the crowd chanting USA. One of the claims Trump made during these events was that we need to bring religion

back into the country. Now that may come as a surprise to those who realize not only has religion not left the country, we still have religious influence in government at the state and federal level. You regularly hear religious arguments made during civil policy debates when it comes to abortion or gay marriage or whatever the case may be. Many of us wondering why is there so much religion given that we're supposed to have separation of church and state? Trump says we have to bring religion back and we have to bring religion back into our country because that's

something that's something that is, as you know, it's under it's under attack. A lot of us are under attack and we we're not going to we're going to win. We're going to win big. We're going to win bigger than ever before. Just. Yep. Bigger than ever before. We're going to bring religion back.

People wondering where did it go? It seems to be very front and center. A hilarious moment. Fox News dipped into Trump's speeches at one point. And right when anchor Harris Faulkner cuts to Trump in Urbandale, Iowa, Trump is defending the January six rioters. This is always a risk. If you cut into a live Trump speech, he could be defending anyone. And in this particular case, Fox goes over and Trump is defending the rioters. Speaker 1

Trump is speaking at the West Side conservative breakfast in Urbandale, Iowa right now. Let's watch. What happens to these people? And then you look at what they've done to the January six people. They've destroyed them and destroyed their lives. And a lot of them didn't even go into the building. It was a disgrace. What's going on? That is a whoops. Let's cut away. Disgrace. That's that's going to go down in history ultimately. And Ashley Babbitt was killed, shot by, in my opinion, a rogue cop. He had no business doing that. He shot her, shot unarmed. And actually, people say she was trying to hold back the people that were pushing her. Right. She was a good Samaritan there. I mean, of course, the investigation into that shooting didn't find any of that evidence,

but she was a good Samaritan. Suddenly the officer was in the wrong. Say the always defend the police people. Ashley Babbitt was the one that was killed. She was the one that was killed. And they like to say five people. That's the truth is. And there happened to be somebody else also in addition to Ashley.

But Ashley Babbitt was a big supporter of everybody in this room. And there you go. By every account, she is an incredible person and a great patriot. And he shot her like just like he had no problem. And then they. Yeah. So not exactly the best moment for Fox News to carry Trump's speech. Trump then complained many people who use the term woke can't define it.

Now I want you to remember this moment because we're going to get back to that a little bit later on. A very big on on school choice. Can you imagine we even have to talk about parental control and having parents basically having parents get involved? We have school systems that don't even want to talk to the parents about their children. And you talk about changing gender and things where the child can make a choice and the child can be unbelievably young. The country has gone sick. It's gone sick. And I don't like the term woke because I hear woke, woke, woke. You know, it's like just a term that use half the

people can't even define it. They don't know what it is. Right. But you look at these things like women getting, you know, competed with with, you know, men that were men. He barely is able to keep the sentence going. And our men and they're out there swimming and setting records. You see the records that are being broken, records that lasted for 19 years of being broken by, you know, 30 seconds. They're trying to win by a sixteenth of a second for in swimming on one of the events, a sixteenth of a second.

They're trying to win for years. And a guy comes along and breaks the record by, you know, numbers that will never be broken. All right. So you get it just over transphobia, confusion and disorientation there. Someone in this was kind of a funny moment. Someone in the crowd praised the governor of Iowa, Kim Reynolds. And Trump is just so insecure that he immediately has to say, hey, it was thanks to me that she won. And they ought to look at his past record, by the way. Take a look at his past record. Thank you for giving us Kim Reynolds for governor of Iowa. I hate to say it without me.

You know, she was not going to win. You know that, right? I gave you a couple of them without me. They wouldn't have won. It's me, me, me. It can't just be praised for someone else who's doing a good job. And then lastly, here, someone in the crowd asks Trump, hey, when you become president day one, you know,

this growing list of day one promises that are never done. What are you going to do to bring back respect for law enforcement in this country? The Mueller report, the fake dossier. How about the dossier, which was written up by the Democrats, all fake stuff and a disgusting thing. And I had to go through a long time. And still, we did more than just about any president in history with all of that stuff on my shoulders. They tell me, oh, I was a Russian agent. OK, I was a Russian agent. I used to say at first I thought they were kidding when I heard that. I said, you know, that's sort of funny. I didn't know what the hell I hadn't even spoken to anybody in Russia. You know, they went through five million phone calls and I didn't

make one call to Russia. That was a little bit bad, but they didn't denounce that. They didn't talk about that. Not totally unintelligible word salad when asked about respect for law enforcement. We have a very, very corrupt system and it's got to be and we need from the top. We need great people. We need heads of the FBI. We need heads of the the top people at the Department of Justice.

Right. This is. There you go. So unable to answer even a single question. And now we go to maybe the most interesting moment from all of Trump's Iowa speeches during one of Trump's speeches in Iowa over the weekend. A voter confronts Trump about the vaccines, the very vaccines which Trump takes credit for and takes pride in as one of his biggest accomplishments during the covid pandemic, those vaccines that his supporters mostly are against and won't receive. A voter says we lost a lot of people because you supported the jab.

And this gets super interesting. Take a look at this. Yeah. Well, you know, everybody wanted a vaccine at that time, and I was able to do something that nobody else could have done, getting it done very, very rapidly. But I never was for mandates. I was I thought do something that nobody else could have done, getting it done very, very rapidly. But I never was a mandates. I was I thought the mandates were terrible. And, you know, there's a big portion of the country that thinks that was a great thing. You understand that not a lot of the people in this room, but there's a big but there is a big portion. Some people think the vaccine was a good thing.

You know, I would have loved to have seen Trump say when she says we've lost a lot of people because you supported the jab. Trump goes, Yeah, I would have preferred Trump to say, what do you mean we've lost a lot of people because I supported the job? What exactly are you talking about? Force the voter to say, well, hundreds of thousands, millions have died from the covid vaccine. Now, I think it's important, given the opportunity to remind everybody, there is still no credible evidence about covid vaccine related deaths. There was a misleading

report put out by a group called the Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge. They used completely bogus methods and assumptions to estimate probably 300000 people died from the vaccine. They used an excess death sort of calculation. What's funny is they didn't even include the possibility that the excess deaths were from covid from the thing that was actually killing people. There was a false claim that Pfizer revealed data that death as a possible side effect was a common thing when people were in the test group, the trial group or whatever. That's been completely debunked. What it relates to is that there are people who died in the few months following vaccination, which you would expect from groups of humans. Some people die for reasons that have nothing to do with the vaccine. So the

Pfizer one was a big thing. Now, it is true that people occasionally die from common vaccines. They are insanely rare cases and they usually involve a sort of known theoretical risk of death. And the real numbers are so, so, so small. A couple examples, anaphylaxis, which is a really severe allergic reaction after any vaccine. There can be anaphylaxis usually happens within minutes of the vaccine can be treated with epinephrine. The rate of anaphylaxis after vaccination is believed to be somewhere between one and 10 cases per million vaccines administered. And of course, the epinephrine shot will will save most of those one to 10 per million. There is something called intussusception, which is a type of bowel obstruction. When

you get the rotavirus vaccine, which is given to infants and young kids, really important to protect against severe diarrheal disease. There can be a risk of into secession after the rotavirus vaccine. One to five cases per hundred thousand doses administered. GBS, Guillain-Barre syndrome, very rare nerve damage disorder can happen after the flu shot. The risk is about one to two cases per million doses. And then, you know, you can look at the yellow fever vaccine. There's something called Y.E.L.A.V.D. to severe reaction to the yellow fever vaccine. And that is important in some parts of the world. The risk of that is under one case per hundred thousand doses administered. So can people die after a vaccine? Yes. Is it so, so, so rare? Absolutely. Is there any proof that people are dying from the covid vaccine? There is not. But this is what we call when a Trump

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will wage a war on the woke. We will fight the woke in education. We will fight the woke in the corporations. We will fight the woke in the halls of Congress. We will never, ever surrender to the woke mob. We will make woke ideology. Leave it to the dustbin of history. It's gone. So that's seven works in the first twenty eight seconds

there. Now, has DeSantis ever defined woke? He tried. We're going to look at that a little bit later when we also look at Nikki Haley's attempt. I think the really we'll we'll talk about the definition of woke a little bit later here. What I want to mention, and it's particularly important if we want to understand the DeSantis campaign, the whole anti woke crusade that DeSantis is pushing is rooted in. I'm not going to say fascist ideology. It's fascistic ideology, which wants to silence dissent and uphold whatever. Right. It used to be we silenced dissent and uphold white supremacy.

When you look to some prior fascists, it could be for whatever reason. At this point, we want to silence progressive voices or we want to silence LGBT voices or whatever. And so he's using this fascistic fear mongering and of course, misinformation to demonize those who challenged DeSantis is narrow and extraordinarily biased view of what the world and how the country is supposed to operate. And so he will label any attempt to teach or to learn about history and reality of racism and oppression and all these things. He will limit it. That's what he does.

And of course, it completely ignores the educational value, the cultural value of learning about those things and of diversity and of inclusion. He ignores the harm that these policies have and the suppressive and oppressive impact on speech that they push forward. And so the dissent is anti woke obsession is not only fascistic in its origins. I believe it's also bad strategy because it doesn't reflect the views or interests of even if you don't want to say of most Americans, of roughly half of Americans. According to recent polls, a majority of Americans support teaching about racism, support teaching slavery in schools, oppose banning books support teaching about racism, support teaching slavery in

schools, oppose banning books that deal with those issues. A majority of Americans more than ever before support LGBT rights and immigration reform and voting rights. All of that stuff is actually as popular or more popular than any other positions on those issues. And so DeSantis ends up alienating himself from mainstream public opinion and catering to a fringe base that's driven by fear and resentment and scapegoating and bigotry. We know all this. The question is, will obsessing about this stuff allow DeSantis to appear to be a leader rather than just a demagogue.

And if the voters of the Republican Party want a demagogue, they've got their guy already and it's Trump. So it's not particularly good strategy. Totally a laughingstock. Truly, Ron DeSantis his wife, Casey DeSantis, is stealing Donald Trump's they came to me with tears in their eyes routine. So DeSantis is already stealing the Joe Biden basement line from Trump. Casey DeSantis is now stealing these stories. Just as a reminder, Trump often tells these stories, you know, they came to me, they said, sir, and they were crying. These were big, strong generals. And then they said, we don't have any we don't have any bullets left. Obama left the

cupboards bare. And we always wonder, are these stories real? I think the answer is probably not. Now, Casey DeSantis is taking a shot at one of these stories. Like I have the responsibility to come out here and say this because I see him in front of the cameras and I see him at home behind the cameras and I see him with his kids, six, five, and three. He never changes. He never wavers. He never backed down. He always, always stands up for what's right. He does not take the path of least resistance. He doesn't cower. And it really is refreshing to see that somebody is standing up for what is right, standing up for the rights, liberties, livelihoods, and up for the rights, liberties, livelihoods, and happiness of the people that he was voted to represent. And that was true in spades when you saw COVID. I can tell you stories of moms in the midst of COVID, single moms coming up to

me with tears in their eyes because they didn't know how they were going to be able to put food on the table for their kids. They didn't know whether their children were going to be able to get an education, to be able to live up to the table for their kids. They didn't know whether their children were going to be able to get an education to be able to live up to their God given potential. But they were crying. They would go to they weren't even going up to Ron DeSantis. They were going up to Casey DeSantis with tears in their eyes and crying. Listen, is it possible someone cried in Casey DeSantis his presence during covid. I mean, sure. Do we in general believe that everybody is constantly crying in front of politicians who clearly don't care about them? I struggle to believe that this is a legitimate story. Let me know what you think. Let's now get to defining

woke. Here is Nikki Haley also running for the twenty twenty to twenty twenty four presidential Republican presidential nomination. She got herself a nice little CNN town hall. She was asked to define woke. It did not go well. Define woke. There's a lot of things. I mean, you want to start with biological boys playing in girls sports. That's one thing. The fact that we have gender pronoun classes in the military now. I mean, all of these things that are pushing what a small minority want on the majority of Americans. It's too much. It's too much. I mean, the idea that we have biological boys playing in girls sports. It is the women's issue of our time. Is it? My daughter ran track in high school. I don't even know how I would have that conversation with her.

How are we supposed to get our girls used to the fact that biological boys are in their locker rooms? OK, so she goes off the rails, asked to define woke. She says woke is stuff like biological boys in girls locker rooms. Now, she's not certainly not defining it. She's giving examples of things she believes are woke. It's sort of like if I said, hey, can you define what a fruit is? And you go, well, you know, you've got your banana, you've got your you've got your cantaloupe. Right. But what's the definition of fruit? And we would say, oh, well, the fruit is the seed bearing structure in a flowering plant formed from the ovary after flowering. Now, it's true that sometimes examples might be more illustrative than some kind of definition. But these are the people who say, if you can't define woman, there's something wrong with

you. Here was Ron DeSantis given an attempt to given the opportunity to find woke just a few days ago. We know what woke is. It's a form of cultural Marxism. It's about putting merit and achievement behind identity politics. And it's basically a war on the truth. And is that as an infected institutions, it has corrupted a lot of institutions.

So you've got to be willing to fight the woke. We've done it in Florida. OK, so cultural Marxism was the Santis's answer. So a couple of different things. The term woke has been perverted. I don't know anyone on the left who still uses it seriously because it's been perverted. It now just basically means anything right wingers don't like. What woke meant before it was perverted meant I am aware of problems in society that might

be bigger than one person. We might call them structural problems. And I think it would be a nice thing to fix those problems. That was wokeness when the term was used seriously. They've now totally perverted it. Cultural Marxism was DeSantis's attempt to define cultural Marxism is a far right anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that blames Jewish German academics known as the Frankfurt School for spreading movements like identity politics and political correctness as some kind of way to manipulate and undermine Western civilization and Christian values. That's what cultural Marxism is. It also it uses the word Marxism. So it makes it sound like it's somehow related to Marx, but it's not. It's

a misnomer. It has nothing to do with the economic and class analysis of Karl Marx. It also really misrepresents the ideas of the Frankfurt Frankfurt School as well. Like him or hate him. The Frankfurt School were a group of critical theorists who analyze the role of culture and mass media and ideology in society. So cultural Marxism is like a post factual dog whistle appealing to anti-Semitism and paranoia. That's how that's how DeSantis is defining woke. This is actually going to be a bigger issue than we might think, because the longer that they continue using woke in this way, the more it is going to seem like an actual platform or proposal when it's not. It's a misunderstood talking point that they don't even understand.

So we'll get back to it in the coming days. Nikki Haley swinging a miss and certainly striking out Ron DeSantis. I'll see you next time. answer. Private Internet access hides my IP address, prevents big tech from being able to paint a picture of who I am and what I do online. And it works for all of your favorite streaming platforms like Netflix and Hulu to access shows and movies normally only available in other countries. It's one of the only VPNs that works for peer to peer file sharing. And the best part is you can protect unlimited devices with just one account. Going online Thank you so much, David. The link is in the podcast notes. If you deal with anxiety or depression, you may have tried meditation, exercise, diet

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is a liar? But this is actually sort of an important story. There was this debt ceiling vote, of course, and Lauren Boebert is now claiming that the fact that she didn't vote one way or the other on the bill was a sort of protest because they weren't letting her do her job. And it's this big moral stand that she's taking, except now video has been released of Lauren Boebert trying to sprint into the Capitol to vote. She was just late.

She just missed the vote. That's all that happened. So let me give you the comings and goings of this. Here is Lauren Boebert back in Colorado explaining that she is protesting against the debt ceiling bill. She's against adding debt. She tweeted, quote, Call it a protest. There's no there's absolutely no way to ever justify adding another four to six trillion

dollars in debt. This is more D.C. self-created garbage that I will always fight against. And here's the video that she put out about this. Hey, everyone, I am back in Colorado, but let's talk about D.C. No excuses. I was ticked off. They wouldn't let me do my job, so I didn't take the vote. Once again, Washington's power machine shoved a multi-trillion dollar bill down our throats, refused to allow debate or amendments, disregarded everything we fought for in January to actually allow representatives to do their jobs. And instead they served us up a crap sandwich, call it a no show protest. But I certainly

let every one of my colleagues and the country know I was against this garbage of a bill. Yeah, it's a no show protest except here's video taken by CNN associate producer Morgan Rimmer of Boebert trying to sprint in and realizing being told the vote's over. You missed it. Does this look like someone who's not trying to vote? It just closed it. Yeah. There is Lauren Boebert sprinting up the steps of the Capitol to try to vote. This is a lie. She is a liar. It's political theater, but it is very low end political theater. Lauren Boebert has nothing interesting to add about the debt ceiling. She has no relevant insights. She has no particular experience that makes her someone to listen to on this issue.

She isn't even important enough for anyone to bother paying attention to whether she is or isn't voting. And she's turned all of it into a big story about herself. But it was all a lie. She just was late to vote and then retroactively came up with this stupid story. The only other thing I'll say is she won by only 500 votes. She can be defeated. She has an opponent, Adam Frisch, and it would be great to defeat her in 2024.

Twitter is undeniably collapsing at this point in time. The defenders of Elon Musk's takeover insist everything is fine. Any user of Twitter, if you're paying attention, you can tell something is not right on the platform. We now have a new report. Twitter hit by a staggering fifty nine percent drop in U.S. ad sales. Twitter's U.S. ad revenue has plunged dramatically in the wake of Elon Musk's takeover of the site, according to The New York Times. The newspaper reports an internal Twitter presentation showed the company's American ad sales in the five weeks from April 1 into early May were at eighty eight million dollars, a whopping fifty nine percent lower than the same period a year earlier.

Unnamed current and former employees say Twitter's ad sales staff are worried that advertisers may have throttled spending out of concern about an increase in hate speech and porn on the platform, along with a surge in advertisements for cannabis products and online gambling. Six ad agency executives say clients continue to limit Twitter spending out of confusion about Musk's changes to the site, as well as inconsistent support from Twitter. Meanwhile, Twitter's head of brand safety and ad quality will be leaving. This was announced three days ago. This is AJ Brown, Twitter head of brand safety and ad quality, has decided to leave.

Additionally, we found that Twitter's head of trust and safety has resigned. This is Ella Irwin told Reuters Thursday she's out. She has faced criticism for lax protections against harmful content since Musk acquired the platform, apparently unable to do anything about it. She has also resigned. So listen, I am actually I don't find this to be a great thing. You know, I've been on Twitter for a long time and spent time building a following and have made some great contacts on Twitter and Twitter. As we know, it has essentially been destroyed. The verified feed is now useless because anybody can just pay eight bucks to get verified.

I used to you. I know people like, oh, David, that's so elitist. I would communicate with other verified people on Twitter and the verification served to say this is really that person. I don't now have to wonder, is this AOC or is this the AOC parody account that Elon Musk was signal boosting? That was a bad move. The new algorithmic for you feed. I looked at it today. It was posts from Michael Knowles, Matt Walsh and Brigitte Gabriel. That's what for you was pitching to me. People who don't pay the eight bucks are getting deprioritized in the algorithm. They're admitting this. This isn't even me saying Elon Musk said paying

gets you prioritized in the algorithm. So I'm really not posting much. And many people have written to me and said, David, are you going to a different platform? I'm on blue sky, but blue sky is really, really small. I don't know whether there's really going to be a replacement to Twitter. Something really intangibly bad is happening on Twitter. And it only is logical to believe that it is a result of Elon Musk's takeover because all of this stuff happened since Elon Musk took over. Could it be a correlative thing and not causative? I guess maybe. But it seems pretty clear what is going on. My hope is that it turns around because I liked Twitter. I still like Twitter as a platform. But at this point, it's just, you know, every once in a while I'll put something up there. The engagements vary. So so a ton of trolls, people I have to end up muting and so on and so forth.

And even though Elon Musk claimed that ad sales were off the charts, they're not. They're not. And Twitter truly is struggling there. By one report, Twitter's value is down about two thirds since Elon Musk purchased it. We will follow it. But so far, not exactly a heroic and inspiring tale. We have a voicemail number. That number is two one nine two. David P. Here is a caller asking about how can it be good to eat vegetables if babies don't like them? It's weird. Take a listen to this. Hi, David. In the context of evolution,

how is it possible that we eat vegetables and fruits given children's reactions to them? I mean, you know, it's like pulling teeth to get a child to try a piece of broccoli. So like throughout history, why did we eat broccoli? Oh, I think I know it's because we had no other options available. And compared to anything else, you know, if you're starving, it's like hunger is the best place. OK, I answer my own question. Thanks a lot, David, for not doing anything useful to help. And leaving me to my.

Oh, boy. So anyway, how do vegetables make sense in terms of human evolution and babies don't like them? Listen, my daughter likes every vegetable and every fruit. I mean, sure. Mango. How can anybody not like a mango but raspberry, blackberry, pear, everything. I don't really know what the caller is talking about. How could it be? I guess the idea would

be if if babies and little kids instinctively reject fruits and vegetables, it would suggest that evolutionarily blah, blah, blah. Well, but babies also don't forage for food on their own. So it doesn't really matter. It's a matter of whether the parents are giving the babies fruits and vegetables. And it makes a lot of evolutionary sense because they provide essential nutrients and vitamins and minerals and antioxidants. So, you know, sugar that gives us energy, satisfy sweet cravings and fruit. And it seems to me that eating fruits and vegetables is perfectly in line with evolution, although it sounds like the caller doesn't actually need my help figuring it out. I don't know if you have anything you want

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