The David Pakman Show - 8/10/23: Trump lashes out at prosecutors, Republicans uncertain about impeaching Biden

Episode Date: August 10, 2023

-- On the Show: -- Luke Beasley, TDPS correspondent and host of The Luke Beasley Show, fills in for David -- Joe Biden mocks Lauren Boebert for praising the infrastructure project in her district that she voted against -- Former conservative judge J. Michael Luttig calls out Donald Trump's threat to democracy -- Donald Trump lashes out at prosecutors during a Newsmax interview with Eric Bolling -- House Republicans can't decide whether they want to pursue bogus impeachment charges against Joe Biden -- Fox News host Laura Ingraham claims that Donald Trump represents the average American citizen -- An FBI raid leads to the death of a man who threatened President Biden's life -- Fox News floats a wild conspiracy about Joe Biden doing an interview with the Weather Channel to send a "secret signal" to Hunter Biden's business partners -- More of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas's lavish gifts are revealed -- On the Bonus Show: Mike Pence fills truck with gas in strange campaign video, Obama warns of Trump's political strengths, and much more... 🌎 Babbel: Get 55% off your subscription (rules & restrictions may apply): https://babbel.com/pakman 🌱 Ounce of Hope: Get 25% OFF with code PAKMAN at https://www.ounceofhope.com/ 💪 Athletic Greens is offering FREE year-supply of Vitamin D at https://athleticgreens.com/pakman 🛡️ Incogni: The first 100 people to use code PAKMAN will get 60% off at http://incogni.com/pakman 🌳 Use code PAKMAN for 20% off HoldOn plant-based bags at https://holdonbags.com/pakman 🧻 Reel Paper: Code PAKMAN for 30% OFF + free shipping at https://reelpaper.com/pakman 👂 MDHearing: Just $149.99 each + free charging case. Use code PAKMAN at https://mdhearing.com -- Become a Supporter: http://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/thedavidpakmanshow -- Subscribe to Pakman Live: https://www.youtube.com/pakmanlive -- Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/davidpakmanshow -- Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave us a message at The David Pakman Show Voicemail Line (219)-2DAVIDP

Welcome back everybody to the David Pakman show Luke Beasley here filling in for David while he is away I know many of you get sad when David's gone. Totally understand that. But stick around because I'm going to make it worth your while. I can guarantee that starting off with this. President Biden very nicely and brilliantly, you could say, called out Lauren Boebert, mocked Lauren Boebert for one of the subjects I love to see Republicans called out on the most, which is when a Democrat can identify a Republican taking credit for or no longer opposing something legislative action-wise, Democratic agenda-wise, that they very aggressively opposed when it was actually time to implement that policy. So in this case, Biden's recognizing that now Lauren Boebert is pretty okay with some benefits her district is getting because of

Democratic agenda items that she fought against. And then we'll get to him calling out someone else as well. So here's this from a recent Bidenomic speech in New Mexico. What Arcoza is doing here is part of a much broader clean energy manufacturing. It's going to happen in big cities and rural communities as well. Like in Colorado, where C.S. Wynne broke ground on what will be the world's largest wind tower manufacturing plant. And coincidentally, C.S. Wynne is Congresswoman Lauren Boebert. You know, that very quiet Republican lady. It's in her district, who, along with every other Republican, voted against this bill. And it's making all this possible. And she railed against this passage.

But that's OK. She's welcoming it now. When I ran for office, I promised to be president for all Americans. Whether you live in a blue state or a red state, I'm going to keep my promise. Before we made this, when our cause is. I think that's the way to do it. Recognize that, hey, Republicans in Lauren Boebert's district, this project and these or this funding is going to benefit you and your district and know that the person representing you would have had it a very different way if she got her way and didn't want this funding, this project to be made possible in your district. But I'm not punishing voters who didn't vote for me and I'm not only trying to benefit voters who voted for me, I'm going to try to benefit all Americans'

lives. I think that's a very good message that a lot of people can resonate with for sure. And then before discussing further, he also made a similar point about Tommy Tuberville. Already, we're saving nearly 170,000 New Mexico families $30 a month on their internet bills. So far. We're making investments like this all across the country. I was just going to pause for another second. There's a distinguished senator from the state of Alabama who used to be a pretty good football coach. And he's railed against this legislation.

And then I noticed he had a big announcement. Alabama is going to get a billion, 200 million dollars right now. And I thought, wait a minute, did he rail against that for a long, long time? I was inclined to go down and help him celebrate, but I decided not to. Look. In one way, it's funny and a little jab you can make but in another it's so aggravating because anytime you point out these different either individual projects or just concepts of governing such as progressive programs like medicare social security that you know the conservative ideology both fought against and would fight against if this debate was coming

up today knowing that all of these things wouldn't be possible if the conservative ideology and whatever party it was manifesting at that point in time got its way is really aggravating and should be aggressively called out and so sometimes i think it's funny doing it in a sort of humorous way. And then sometimes maybe you get a little bit more serious. And if you pull up, I've done this before on my show, you can find that of course, at Luke Beasley on YouTube, just looking at the various projects and you can go find this yourself. Super interesting, interactive map that I'm pulling up on screen will describe for the podcast listeners where you can see where this different funding is going towards in the bipartisan infrastructure law that Democrats pushed for and Biden led on and just dive into the specifics of

all these different projects that will benefit all different regions of the country. And these things matter. And I think when you recognize the way that Republicans kind of, once these things start being implemented, or once these programs are popular, such as Medicare and Social Security, then want to absolutely be seen as on board and a part of the solution, that proves that obviously it's good policy. And all of the accusations of Biden's going to be this socialist, he's going to make America bankrupt with crazy projects that have been paid for, it's all just nonsense. It's all political. It's not actually a thoughtful critique of the policy

because again, I think Pete Buttigieg I covered in the past said something to the effect of the sign of a good policy is those who opposed it didn't want to take credit for it, which is definitely what we see. Then one more just funny moment where he takes a jab at Trump. Be like, what the hell's a wind tower? That's a key component. You know, you have to have it to hold up those. But you know how long, by the way, I was in eastern Colorado, looking at the blades manufactured, those blades are 103 yards long, longer than a football field. And by the way, they don't cause cancer. And, of course, referencing his predecessor, Donald Trump's claim to that effect. Rather absurd. I do think our previous conversation about Republicans taking credit for Democratic policies is a reminder of the fact that you

really should press for specifics when someone says the Biden administration has been a complete disaster and all of his policies are creating mayhem and it's terrible. Not because there aren't fair criticisms of the Biden administration. There are. I think most of them, though, come from the progressive direction. But because often the people making that accusation the most boldly don't actually have the details to back it up. Because a lot of these policies are just really good, especially Biden's landmark achievements. And the list I'll go through whenever I hear something like that with people is the American Rescue Plan. Let's just go through this.

American Rescue Plan, is that the thing you have a big issue with? Trillions of dollars of relief when relief was needed after the economic downturn that the pandemic caused millions of jobs created based on an independent analysis because of that legislation first major gun safety bill in decades pulling out of america's longest war largest investment in green energy in history millions of green energy jobs will be created in the future because of that lowering prescription drug costs including medicare being able to negotiate drug prices and capping the cost of insulin at 35 dollars out of pocket per month for medicare recipients republicans blocked that being applied to all americans raising the minimum wage for federal government workers katonji brown jackson

on the court many conservatives do have an issue with that all of them uh pact act health care to veteran toxic burn pit victims of chips and science act bringing more semiconductor manufacturing to america once in generation infrastructure law rebuilding roads and bridges increasing access to clean reliable drinking water repairing airports expanding broadband investing in passenger rail are those all the things that prove biden has been a complete disaster and is destroying america that doesn't make much sense, right? And that's why I think getting into a conversation about the specifics of the policies and not just

vaguely Biden's terrible is important. Again, not because there aren't criticisms, but because these policies, a lot of people aren't as comfortable saying, yeah, all that's terrible when you really go through it. Or even his economic record, they'll say he's run the economy to the ground. But considering the context he took over within, the economic downturn that the pandemic had caused and the pandemic that Trump had mishandled, and now we're all the way back down to historic low unemployment, 50-year low getting hit while Biden's president when it comes to unemployment inflation down to 3% after it's spiking because of that economic reality and the response to it and dropping lower than other G7 countries on inflation in the United States, real wages increasing 2.4%, GDP growth. These are good metrics, especially when you consider the reality that Biden took over within. And so that's why if

you really push for details, some of these arguments hold a whole lot less water. Super interesting. A retired federal judge, Michael Luddick, who is known to be a conservative, is speaking either calling out Trump or debunking some of the talking points that people are dishonestly using to defend Donald Trump amid his third indictment. So first, here's Michael Luddig calling Trump out as a threat to democracy. People to remember, Mr. Secretary, you're a Democrat, Judge Ludig, you're a Republican, and you're working together on this. This is very bipartisan. Judge Ludig, we will all remember when you testified before the January 6th Commission and you called Donald Trump, quote, a clear and present danger to American democracy. He is now three times indicted, potentially four. He is by far the Republican frontrunner. Do you think he is still a clear and present danger to American democracy?

I do, Poppy, more so today than he was last summer when I testified before the Congress of the United States for these obvious reasons. The former president has continued to insist and persist in his false claim that he had won the 2020 presidential election and that it was stolen from him. And his Republican allies and the Republican Party have joined him in that persistent claim to this day. So for the two and a half years since January, and he continues, but we'll stop it there for the sake of time. He goes on to say that the, as he calls it, there being no Republican party, but kind of the current state of the Republican party is what is putting our democracy quote in grave peril meaning that yes it's so dangerous that trump tells these lies and did the things that he did based on the lies he was telling and also it is especially dangerous that the republican party doesn't push back that now a massive portion of the party is just in lockstep with donald trump and at, if not endorsing his lies, not condemning them as should be done.

And so because of that, Trump's strength within the GOP continues to be what it is, which is incredibly dangerous when you have a side of our political process being convinced into believing that the only way an election can be fair is if their side wins. And the actions that that justifies, as we're seeing laid out in the third indictment of Donald Trump, are horribly detrimental. And if Trump was successful, he would have overthrown a democratic process and blocked the lawful governmental process from proceeding. Luckily, he wasn't eventually successful, but it could change in the future. And that's why accountability, even legally, is so important. Then we get to Ty Cobb, who gets asked about this free speech defense of

Donald Trump amid his third indictment. And this is Trump's former lawyer saying, no, that doesn't make any sense. He asked in an aspirational way. He went on to say asking is not speech. It's not action. That's the heart of this, right? Speech versus action. Does that defense fly here? Not at all. I'm not aware of the aspirational defense or the free speech defense to a gang leader saying to two of his subordinates, I need you two to please rob a bank for me and they do it um you know that's that's aspirational um but it leads to a crime and that's exactly what trump did uh did with pence so in every way that defense is ridiculous if you haven't heard it

lately people defending trump will say that he's being indicted for questioning the election or for claiming it was stolen or whatever it might be when that's just not the case at all in the indictment explicitly it says that's not what Trump's being indicted for he had the right to even lie about the election of course and he had the right to legally challenge the results it is the potentially unlawful actions that were taken that are at issue here. And so then on one end, it's the actions that are on the table that are at issue and the coordinated possible legal conspiracy, illegal conspiracy, that was an effort to disenfranchise voters, overthrow a democratic process, block a lawful proceeding from going forward. And that is the

center of this indictment. And also, if you're pointing to the instances in the indictment where he's using his speech to potentially direct people to take unlawful actions, yes, that's also something you can do. You can direct illegal actions and thus be yourself breaking the law with your speech. But it's not just him claiming the election was stolen that is the problem here. And then finally, Alberto R. Gonzalez, who was the attorney general under President George W. Bush, wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post titled, No, fellow Republicans, the Justice Department is not biased against us. Last week, I watched a former president of the United States for the first time in history be arraigned in federal court

for attempting to obstruct official proceedings and overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. I found myself less troubled by the actions of former President Donald Trump than by the response of a significant swath of the American people to Trump's deepening legal woes. I'm among a number of jurists with experience at the highest levels of our government who grow more concerned as support for Trump mounts in direct proportion to the number of indictments against him. Sadly, this has led on the right to a growing distrust of and rage against the Justice Department.

And then he goes on to say, I can understand the skepticism, but based on the known facts in each case, I do not share it and walk through a lot of the reasons as David has and I have in the past, why these claims are not valid. And the specifics of the case would not lead one if they were honestly analyzing them to believe that there's this two-tier justice system and Trump's being targeted and all of it. And the job of the DOJ is to follow the facts. And yes, the facts as they follow them have led to a Republican being the one that is being focused on, but not because he's a Republican or because he's Trump, but because of what he potentially did that was unlawful. walked through with legal knowledge and a history of being within the GOP or at least conservative probably won't sway MAGA. It's still important that they speak out to try to move as many people as possible to understand this isn't some liberal attempt to take Trump down but instead an example of Trump being held accountable for his possible violations of the law which is what we should all no matter our political persuasion, want the DOJ to do quick break

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And now that he's expecting a fourth indictment out of Georgia, he's also been targeting Fannie Willis. And we'll look at both those clips in just a moment. Truly dangerous stuff as he panics further about his legal troubles. And anyone who dares to try to hold him accountable for his possible violations of the law he will make a target uh starting off with this the next question uh jack smith yeah biden gets america erlin to get jack smith to do these investigations of you the rain she's like no evidence of biden being involved deranged human being i watch this guy what's his motivation? I think I think

he's just a sick guy. He destroyed the lives of many people. He was overturned unanimously in the Supreme Court. I believe he's 0 and 5, in other words, he takes it to the end. He was involved with the IRS scandal, the big Lois Lerner IRS. That was him. That was his baby, where the government had to end up paying money, damages and apologies all over the place, where they went after Christians and they went after incredible people. Jack Smith, he's like a he's like a deranged individual. And I think we're doing very well with that guy. But he is he's a sick puppy. And, you know, you look at the boxes. I come under the Presidential Records Act. I'm allowed to do everything that you see. Biden didn't. Biden's got 1850 boxes. He's got boxes in Chinatown.

Just a whole lot of nonsense that is, again, dangerous. I think, as I've mentioned before on my show now multiple times, it is the sign of someone who really can't defend the allegations effectively, really can't defend the allegations effectively, really can't explain why the evidence being brought against him is illegitimate, because he only focuses on the person and tries to attack the character of the person, spews a bunch of nonsense about the person who dares to attempt to hold him accountable, not actually address the specifics, the details of the allegations because of how damning the evidence is being brought against him. Or when he does try to provide an

illusion of addressing specifics, he just makes up arguments or addresses arguments that aren't even relevant to the conversation. And that definitely comes up with his third indictment, him saying, I'm being indicted for my freedom of speech, when it's not that at all in the indictment explicitly outlined that that's not what he's being indicted for. Or with the first federal indictment in relation to his willful retention of national defense information, he'll say, everything I was doing was in accordance with the Presidential Records Act and now they're indicting me for that when in reality he's not being indicted for violating the Presidential Records Act and he wasn't in compliance with the Presidential Records Act. So in both directions there that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Then he moves on to Fannie Willis. No, of course not. Look, I don't think the people of Georgia, where I did very well and I won it the first time and I won it, I think, by much more the second time.

I can say that about the whole election, too. I don't think that Stanford, this woman is not a capable woman. She's a woman that has I mean, and maybe she'll change her mind. And I don't know what she's doing. I really don't know. All I know is she could have done it two and a half years ago if she was going to do something. And this is about a perfect phone call, a call where I'm questioning the election. Eleven thousand seven hundred and eighty votes. I'm telling them that in my opinion, the election was rigged and they're saying that I was I did something incorrect. I didn't do anything wrong.

I believe I won that election by many, many votes, many, many hundreds of thousands of votes. That's what I think. And I expressed that on the phone call. And I said, I don't know what the number was, like 11,000 or something. I said what I need, you know, the number 11,780 votes, it's 11,000 votes. I won this thing by hundreds of thousands of votes that's my opinion it's a strong opinion and i think it's borne out by the facts and we'll see that it's absolutely not and that will prove itself when eric bowling at the end of the interview has to note that newsmax doesn't necessarily endorse the opinions that trump shared there and accepts the results of the 2020 election results. We'll get to that in a bit. But again, we haven't even seen because Trump hasn't been indicted out

of Fulton County yet, specifically what he would be charged with. So it's hard necessarily to address the talking points he's saying there. But as is the case with the third indictment, second federal one, it would not be him questioning the results that he's being charged with. Obviously not. It is something such as a criminal conspiracy to overturn unlawfully and keep yourself in power despite the democratic results of a free and fair election and block the lawful certification process and disenfranchise voters and all of the steps involved in what could have been an unlawful attempt to keep himself in power

despite losing, not just him questioning the results, which he is allowed to do even when it's very baseless. And then you have this. They're doing this type of thing and you're answering indictments and arraignments. Well, it's incredible. I mean, it really is incredible. And, and I'm answering them not for that. I'm answering because I question an election, not only question, I, I totally dispute that election. I think it's ridiculous what happened and that they allowed that to happen and that the media doesn't want anybody to talk about it, but now we can. And we did. The media talks constantly about your claims about the election.

It just has to be fact-checked. Something yesterday, you know, now that we have the subpoena power, because we now have subpoena power, all of a sudden the J6 committee, the unselects, I call them, everything was deleted and destroyed, the documents, everything. And that's the other thing that is fascinating. We've seen from one of Trump's lawyers and Trump himself, them saying that now that we have subpoena power and now that we'll be able to be in court again, we're going to prove some of these claims. Which if the goal is going to be let's go into court and defend ourselves or defend Trump by proving the 2020 election was stolen, have at it

because that's not going to be successful at all and would be a complete and total disaster legally. Then he moves on to the subject of Ron DeSantis. And just like they said that they didn't believe it. But like they said that now they said, oh, well, we want to really run against DeSantis is a failed candidate. If I didn't endorse DeSantis, he wouldn't have ever won. He was at he was out. Then I endorsed him and he went up and he was able to win. He went up massively in one night after I endorsed him. But he was a failed candidate. And you know what? He's a failed candidate again. He's got no personality. He's got nothing going. And he's he's dropped like a rock. I don't even think he's going to be too number long. I mean, somebody is going to come along like maybe Tim Scott or somebody and probably take his place. And probably this stops him in 28. You know, he could have walked into 28. Maybe you still have to campaign. You don't walk into anything. This is a tough world in politics. This is a nasty, nasty world, as we we found out probably it's never been nastier than it is right now because we have because of you uh so the talking point of desantis could have walked

right into it in 2028. it's correct to say you don't know that for sure but it will be fascinating to watch now that it's pretty clear Ron DeSantis is dropping as said, like a rock and is not going to be successful in this election cycle, it's going to be fascinating to watch how that affects his future in politics. Will MAGA forever be bitter with him? Will MAGA be relevant when he would try to go at it again? Or will he just kind of fade back into being a Republican governor and people are okay with him and he takes another shot at it later? That's something I'm very interested in. And because of his revealing of how dangerous he is as a candidate, as a governor, in an attempt partly to make MAGA like him more, and that hasn't been successful making them love him,

but it has been successful at least in revealing to us how dangerous he really is. Hopefully that will be remembered if he takes another shot at it later on. I really do hope that's the case. And then Eric Bolling at the end of the interview has to say this. Oh, we thank you. The American people. Thank you. I thank you.

And great job. Great success. You're doing a fantastic job. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you. All right, folks. Now, just to note, Newsmax has accepted the election results as legal and final. There's that Dominion lawsuit fear rippling through the media where he goes, we've accepted the election results as legal and final, which is kind of the legal version of Joe Biden's the president. Whenever people will get asked who are sort of election deniers

or don't want to make election deniers mad, do you accept the results of the 2020 election? They'll say, Joe Biden's the president. Yeah, but we're asking, do you accept that that's the legitimate result and there wasn't widespread voter fraud? There wasn't outcome determinative voter fraud. Do you accept that?

And they'll go, Joe Biden was president. Just continue saying that. Same thing there. Newsmax has accepted the election results as legal and final. Okay. I don't know if that's exactly as far as you should go, but you're trying to protect yourself. Very interesting. Make sure you're subscribed to the David Pakman show as you're watching this channel and go hop over and check out my show at Luke Beasley on YouTube. Well, you've probably heard that Kevin McCarthy is now on board with the idea of an impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden based on the rather baseless accusations against President Bideniden from republicans as james comer has tried to prove unsuccessfully of him being bribed i know david has walked through extensively the kind of uh one embarrassment after another as republicans try to prove this again unsuccessfully

but despite the lack of success of the house oversight committee investigation into these claims kevin mccarthy is still charging forward with an impeachment inquiry. Interestingly, though, things aren't going well already for Kevin McCarthy. And there are some more moderate Republicans who are saying, I don't know about this. Do we have enough evidence to really move forward with this? First, here's Kevin McCarthy floating this idea. We don't do it for political purposes. We follow the Constitution. That's exactly what was played out during the Nixon administration in Congress. They voted to have an impeachment inquiry.

And I raised it on this show not long ago that because the actions of the Biden administration withholding information, that that would rise to the level where we'd need impeachment inquiry to give the strength of the congress to get the information that we need to give to the american public so there's the speaker of the house head of the republican party saying that which you would think would indicate there's some support enough support within his party to really do this but as nbc news reports vulnerable republicans aren't sold on impeaching biden they have mixed feelings about whether to launch a formal inquiry but they broadly agree the gop doesn't have enough evidence to impeach him their votes will be decisive house speaker ken mccarthy

faces unease within his ranks about impeaching president joe biden with some politically vulnerable and sinister republicans indicating they don't believe there's enough evidence to take such a drastic step those republicans are also conflicted about whether to launch a formal inquiry typically the first step before impeachment proceedings and their anxieties highlight the practical and political dilemmas that mccarthy and gop leaders will have to navigate it talks about how the far right hardliners definitely want this and are pushing mccarthy to do it but then you have quotes from for example mike lawler saying impeachment should not be political by any stretch. We've seen what happens when Congress acts in a political matter, does not serve the interests of the American people in any way.

And then the question to me right now is, do the investigations, are they producing enough facts and evidence that weren't taking it to the next step? I don't think it's there at the moment, but these committees are doing their job. I don't disagree with that. And then you have other quotes, for example, here from Don Bacon saying stuff about the president. He thinks that Biden was more involved with his son's business dealings than he admitted, but it's, quote, too early for a formal impeachment inquiry. We should have more confidence that actual high crimes and misdemeanors occur before starting a formal impeachment inquiry and it continues so already trouble in paradise for kevin mccarthy and then interestingly this comes within the context of james comer the head of the

house oversight committee who's been leading this investigation into President Joe Biden. Releasing yet another memo saying and outlining what he feels is the evidence against Biden. But then as The Washington Post reports and Philip Bump says in this op ed, so where's the bribe, James Comer? It has now been more than three months since House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer and Senator Charles E. Grassley issued a release in which they accused President Biden of having been allegedly engaged in a bribery scheme with a foreign national. And it outlines the accusation that has been covered extensively on this show and mine. But the issue is, as Comer released a new assessment of payments made to Hunter Biden, Archer and others while Biden and Archer were in business together none of them were shown to have

gone to Joe Biden as has consistently been the case and time and time again as this op-ed nicely walks through the promises they've made about what they're going to prove just hasn't actually occurred and so then it becomes more and more obvious that you're not following the evidence. You're not following the facts. You're just trying to find some set of kind of manipulated stories you can tell to muddy the waters and make it to where a lot of people go, yeah, Trump's corruption and Trump's crimes, but there's some stuff I've heard about going on on that side. I don't know, Biden might be caught up in something.

But see, on one end, the accusations against Trump have solid evidence behind them. On the other, it's a whole lot of innuendo, a whole lot of baseless accusations. And so it's becoming more and more clear, as if it wasn't from the beginning, that these investigations are politically charged, are politically motivated, as much as they accuse the Trump-related investigations of being just that. Quick break. We'll be right back. There's something really disturbing we've been seeing in the news lately. The FBI is now

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get a break. As Med media reports on the clip they're about to watch saying fox news host laura ingram declared that donald trump a billionaire and foreign president who is under indictment in three jurisdictions represents a quote regular citizen really let's see what they have to say the doj the fbi coming after a former president that they do not like and so they haven't moved away from Donald Trump. What it's actually done, Laura, is made some of those voters who really didn't like the tone and tenor of President Trump, they liked the policies, but they wanted to find someone else other than the president.

They've angered them. And now to stick it to... You've angered them. Fox News has angered them. Lies about Trump being this big victim, that's what's angering people. If networks like Fox News were more honest, then more people would understand this is an example not of Trump being a big victim who's being targeted, but instead of someone who possibly committed crimes being held accountable for that. To the Department of Justice, to stick it to the

deep state, they've come back on board for Trump to go, you know what, we're going to show these jerks that Donald Trump can win and he's going to root out the corruption. And so they're making him stronger, not weaker by these indictments because there's a lot of nothing there. Well, I think he kind of represents to people at this point, after all these years of their coming after him, he kind of represents this, the regular citizen who seems like they can't get a break from the federal government. The government's always on your back. It's always taking your money. It's always regulating you. It's always hassling you. And that's kind of what they're doing to Trump, obviously in a much worse way. But do you see that we'll let Sean Duffy respond after responding to that. So yeah, nothing says regular citizen like being a billionaire who got handed 400 plus million dollars from their father or being the guy who as president attempted to overthrow a democratic free and fair election and keep themselves in the White House despite losing that election and pressuring election officials and trying to disenfranchise voters and possibly committing the crime while doing so. Nothing says a regular

citizen like someone who kept classified documents after being president and then after multiple demands from federal authorities held on to them and possibly conspired with staffers to keep them out of the hands of federal authorities and then allegedly destroyed evidence to cover that up regular citizen hmm on well so it's a line that he uses on the on the campaign trail often he's like they're they're not coming for me they're actually coming for you and they're coming for me first and so i think a lot of americans see that they're going after donald trump but they see the same thing happening in their communities and in their country whether you're're going after parents who are protesting at a school board, you're a Latin mass Catholic, you're a pro-life activist. They're seeing the Department of Justice classify them as domestic terrorists and they're coming after them.

And again, whether you're coming after my car or my gas. Okay, and then that's deriving itself from a really dishonest talking point. He brought up the school board meeting point saying parents were just voicing their concerns and then were labeled domestic terrorists by the Department of Justice. That didn't happen. What happened was during the time where a lot of parents were voicing their concerns, which you can do, going to school board meetings, being mad, absolutely. Also alongside that, some people were getting so angry that they were threatening public officials, threatening school board members. And that is what was labeled as a potential domestic terrorist threat. Yes, if you make a violent threats that could be followed through on, you might be labeled as that by the Department of Justice, which is what we should want them to do.

Make sure public officials are safe and people aren't having their lives threatened. But continuing. officials are safe and people aren't having their lives threatened but continuing a stove my hot water heater i think americans see the country going in a direction that they don't approve of by the way also you're going after my kids you want to i mean you want to have a real fight with me come after my kids in their education try to sexualize my child try to get kids to huh who's doing that transition me knowing, and you're really going to make people angry. And so again, I think it all feeds into why they love Donald Trump. And I think they see that he's going to actually fight that machine. And by the way, he's the only one, Laura,

who stood up to the machine. I'm going to tell you what, I would have been cowering in the corner under Russia collusion. I would be cowering in the corner with all these charges. He's looking at over a hundred years in prison And the man continues to stand strong. He appears to be upbeat. Then the idea that because Trump is being accused of all of these different crimes and thus having to interact with the Department of Justice and with the federal government in that particular way, he's best suited to fight back against the deep state or something makes absolutely no sense because the mission will be, and he's made this very clear, retribution. It's going to be a victimhood presidency of him trying to get back at all the people he feels victimized by, even though again, it's him being held accountable that's it that's

what we're seeing and if there were less lies being paraded on networks like fox news more people would understand that and we would have a less hot temperature right now in the country when it comes to this subject and interestingly i wish people recognize this but trump sees this whole presidential run as his only shot of getting out of accountability. And so all the people supporting him are really just assisting in and a part of Trump's runaway from accountability and his attempt to block that from and prevent that from happening. And so all those donations, $40 million spent this year from his campaign on his legal fees, it's all in service

of that instead of in service of what we should want candidates to be focused on which is putting forward a policy agenda that is aimed at benefiting the lives of the people they want to be their constituents but that's not what trump's run is about it's about him and so all the conversations as we see when we go through these interviews and these speeches are about him and him being this big victim instead of about how he will, if he became president, benefit the lives of Americans, which we know won't happen. And I wish more people saw that. Make sure you are subscribed to me on YouTube at Luke Beasley. We talk a lot about, I know David does and I do on our respective shows, the lies that are told about Biden weaponizing the DOJ and Trump being wrongfully targeted and

prosecuted and it's all terrible and Trump's a big victim. And it's important to call those out because of the dishonesty on his face and because we want to be accurate and want to be honest and we want to correct people when they're not being those things and it's aggravating and rhetorically it's enraging but it also has real world consequences these lies and it's important to note that as well as media reports i have an example of this for you quote time is right for a presidential assassination. Utah man who threatened to kill Biden and Trump prosecutors shot dead in FBI raid. So he had been threatening those trying to prosecute Trump and Biden. FBI agents shot and killed a Utah man during a raid

on Wednesday morning after he allegedly threatened President Joe Biden and federal prosecutors with assassination. The raid happened hours before Biden was expected to land in the state, according to the FBI. Special agents attempted to serve Craig Robertson a warrant in Provo when the shooting happened at 6.15 a.m. The Associated Press noted that the complaint alleged that Robertson mentioned presidential assassination and made threats against Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, Attorney General Merrick Garland, and New York Attorney General Letitia James. And you know the common thread through those people is all being individuals that have become targets of Donald Trump's dishonest

rhetoric, and he's called them enemies for trying to, or something to this effect, wrongfully prosecute him. That is how they're identified in the minds of his supporters and so then you have based on this robertson putting on facebook the time is right for a presidential assassination or two first joe then kamala he was facing three criminal counts interstate threats threats against the president and influence impeding and retaliating against federal law enforcement officers by threat and i can't even read this particular quote it's so uh vile but to jump around to a few of these he said i hear biden is coming to utah digging out my old ghillie suit and cleaning the dust off the m24 sniper rifle uh we're done here oh that's so then before reading more of these quotes he was confronted by fbi agents before they had a warrant they came to

his home and he said after a little bit of an exchange we're done here don't return without a warrant so then they came back with an arrest warrant and then it ended in him being shot based on a confrontation presumably that took place then it was written on facebook by him perhaps utah will become famous this week as the place a sniper took out biden the marxist and again there is more but it is so vile i don't think i would read it on this show so violent threats being made toward the exact people that lies are constantly being told about when it comes to the prosecution of trump trump is being held accountable for his possible violations of the law and a lot of people are believing that is some huge wrong

that trump is being victimized in some terrible way and believing that so far to then make threats like this and then based on fbi agents serving an arrest warrant a life is lost craig robertson shot and killed now i don't have a whole lot of specifics we don't right now about how this went down and is it conceivable that the fbi agents did something wrong on their part and escalated it too much? Absolutely. That's always possible right now. There's no indication of that. So I'm presuming that the death was not wrongful in the way that the arrest warrant was being served. But still a tragedy based on the fact that he didn't have to buy into the lies that justified

in his mind these threats. And of course, the FBI is going to have an interest in checking in on people and holding people to account when they make threats like that, that are so severe and so explicit as he was outlining on social media to make sure the president is safe. And again, it's a tragedy that it led to what it led to, but it didn't have to. And so on one end, when you think about the way that these lies manifest into real world damage, you can have public officials, the people being lied about, threatened as was happening, and their lives hurt and their family's lives hurt. And then you can also have those buying into the lies as we're seeing here, then having their lives lost or's lives hurt and then you can also have those buying into

the lies as we're seeing here then having their lives lost or their lives hurt Ashley Babbitt another example of this because of the lies Ashley Babbitt did the thing she did and it led to what it did and so it's all horrible and it's yet another example of how these lies are bad for being lies and they're bad for what they can lead to. And this is yet another example of that. One more break. We'll be back after this. 30 million trees are destroyed every year for toilet paper in the US alone, so toilet paper is a big contributor to deforestation and climate change. Our sponsor, real paper The David Pakman Show David Pakman dot com. the atmosphere as pine trees and bamboo toilet paper is stronger than regular toilet paper

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can find me at Luke Beasley on YouTube. I have a moment here for you from Fox News that is so ridiculous. My goodness. So prepare yourself. Responding to what this Fox News contributor is responding to is President Biden doing an interview on the Weather Channel. And it makes sense that he would do this type of interview on the Weather Channel. It has to do with his visit to the Grand Canyon and a decision he's made on that front. But in response to this interview, this Fox News contributor, Charlie Hurt, floats such a bonkers theory about why Biden went on the Weather Channel. So that's what we'll

get to. But first, the context on this from ABC News news biden creates new national monument near grand canyon citing tribal heritage and climate concerns declaring it good not only for arizona but for the planet president joe biden on tuesday signed a national monument designation for the greater grand canyon turning the decades-long visions of native american tribes and environmentalists into reality coming as biden is on a three-state western trip the move will help preserve about 1 562 square miles just to the north and south of grand canyon national park it encompasses canyons plateaus and tributaries that feed a range of plants and wildlife including bison elk desert bighorn sheep and rare species of cactus and is biden's fifth monument designation so there we go

and it makes sense that kind of within that context he might go on the weather channel and discuss this making environmentalists happy with this action and Native American tribes great great great but that's not how Charlie Hurt on Fox News perceived perceived this. Instead, he said this. But the whole thing, I think, was a laugh and a wink and a trying to make a mockery of the fact that if you remember, Dan Goldman said that the only thing that Joe Biden talked about with Hunter Biden and all of his business partners was the weather. And so I think that this is a secret signal to all of the business partners was the weather. And so I think that this is a secret signal to all of the business partners that we're going to stick with the story about the weather.

Now, Jesse Waters is laughing, which makes it sound more reasonable as if they're both in on this joke. But Charlie Hurt seems sort of serious. And if you get asked anything about it, if you get hauled before a committee in Congress to answer it, just say we talked about the weather. The bat signal's gone out and this is why he can't answer questions

because our very own stupid son of a bitch, Peter Doocy jumped the fence. Okay. And then they move on to something related. So if you didn't catch it there, he's saying that because of some details i'll get to from a recent uh testimony as a part of the house oversight committee with devin archer the former business associate of hunter biden this was the bat signal an indication to all those in on the biden bribery scheme conspiracy to say biden only ever talked with his son about the weather. That's the only subject that came up. And yikes.

It is the sign of someone who has centered their whole world around the Hunter Biden, Joe Biden bribery scheme that they haven't been able to provide evidence to prove. And then everything becomes a part of that. And everything points back to that. We've seen every time a trump indictment takes place they'll say this was to distract from the hunter biden stuff and at one point the uh titan submersible was apparently supposed to distract from the hunter biden stuff everything connects to the hunter biden story that again isn't at this point in time really the story they tell us that it is because they fail time and time again house republicans that is to prove their claims and what he's referencing there the devin archer testimony

again hunter biden his foreign business associate is named devin archer and uh he went in front of the house oversight committee and testified to the reality that while he absolutely biden called with his son very often, especially after Beau Biden passed away, and this would be a daily occurrence. And because it was a daily occurrence, sometimes I think it was 20 times over a decade or something like that. If business associates were around during this, this daily call, Hunter Biden, probably even to impress them would put Joe Biden on speakerphone and he would say hello. But explicitly, Devin Archer said never did business dealings come up. It would be small talk. It would be the weather. And so there,

Charlie Hurt saying, ah, see, this is the way they're going to cover for Biden now. He's doing an interview on the Weather Channel so that everyone knows, say, we only talked about the weather, even though all of the actual solid evidence we have proves that is what this is. When you talk about the connection between Hunter Biden and Joe Biden, it was unrelated to business dealings because of the position that Biden had. But what I find really aggravating about these types of stories is that there are more real meaningful conversations that could be had on networks like Fox News on the subject that they're on, but they can go in a different

direction and have a more meaningful conversation. So with this, his interview on the Weather Channel, there actually was an interesting moment that we could have a policy discussion about when it comes to Biden's actions and response to climate change, which is this. With the Weather Channel, I had a chance to speak with President Biden about why he hasn't declared a climate crisis a national emergency. Mr. President, you call climate change a code red for humanity. The World Health Organization said it will cause an additional quarter of a million deaths a year starting in 2030. Are you prepared to declare a national emergency with respect to climate change?

I've already done that. We've conserved more land. We've rejoined the Paris Climate Accord. We've passed a $368 billion climate control facility. We're moving. It is the existential threat to humanity. So you've already declared that national emergency? Well, in practice, we've got a bug on it.

Oh, thanks. Appreciate it. So you've already declared that national emergency? Practically speaking, yes. Now, declaring a national emergency on climate change would unlock temporary executive powers to ramp up renewable productions and also pull back on activities such as oil drilling and also fossil fuel investment. It was also free up federal funds for disaster relief, despite requests from some Democratic leaders. So there, instead of, hey, maybe he went on the Weather Channel to tell other criminals in his criminal conspiracy or whatever to use weather as the excuse or the justification for these phone calls or the topic of the phone calls, I should say. We could be having a debate. Should Biden have declared a national state of emergency in the United States because of climate change? And then he would be able to access more resources as president to respond to it. Or is it not time to do that?

Is it or is it not? That's an interesting conversation we could have and it could be a good faith discussion about. We could also include. All right, let's look through what Biden has done to respond to climate change. Good. about we could also include all right let's look through what biden has done to respond to climate change good and then where he's failed the inflation reduction act being a really strong step in the correct direction and cutting carbon emissions by a very significant amount and investing in green energy more than we've seen in the history of the united states but then also approving the willow project that being a step in the wrong direction and these are the types of

conversations that could be had if we weren't spending so much time debunking claims and theories like what we just watched there. The story of Clarence Thomas becomes more and more clear as the days go on and more reporting is done. And because the awe, the shock and awe of the initial ProPublica report has kind of faded. It's getting less coverage as more and more information comes out about Clarence Thomas and his possible corruption and the massive gifts and trips that he's accepted as a Supreme Court justice, initially thought to be by one billionaire, Harlan Crowe, who's also a GOP mega-donor. But now we know it to be four billionaires and there's a really good CNN report kind of recapping what we know to this point in time and ProPublica has just been

consistently putting out a lot of new information about all of the different things that Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has accepted in the form of gifts and trips that could be creating a conflict of interest in his role as a Supreme Court justice and maybe violating the law and not disclosing some of this. The most complete accounting yet of the high life of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas shows much, much more than previously known. More private jets, more fancy vacations, more sporting events, all gifts from mega rich businessmen and documented through public and private records, plus interviews by ProPublica.

Justice Thomas has been living a life of extreme luxury for 30 years, underwritten by at least four different ultra wealthy benefactors. Earlier reports have revealed lavish gifts to Thomas, including a house for his mother and this nine day vacation in Indonesia from conservative billionaire Harlan Crowe. I've come from regular stock. Who also underwrote a film about Thomas's humble taste taste i prefer the rv parks now love that so much it's so blatant as he's being wined and dined to the most significant degree imaginable and having all of these gifts showered on him in the most lavish trip you could possibly imagine he does this documentary paid for by harland crowe where he he says, I like a more modest vacation. Now, the list of benefactors includes three more names, according to ProPublica,

David Sokol, Wayne Huizenga and Tony Novelli. The report says the four moguls collectively treated Thomas to 38 destination vacations, including a previously unreported voyage on a yacht around the Bahamas, 26 private jet flights, plus an additional eight by helicopter. And as they recap these, I can go through and do it. 38 destination vacations, 26 private jet flights, eight by helicopter, a dozen VIP passes to professional and college sporting events, two stays at luxury resorts in Florida and Jamaica. I like a modest vacation. like the rv park better

is what he said in that documentary yeah okay so as uh propublica reports here while some of the hospitality such as stays in personal homes may not have required disclosure thomas appears to have violated the law by failing to disclose flights yacht cruises and expensive sports tickets according to ethics experts and separate from the law which also matters and there should be accountability where necessary it also just violates any other judge whatsoever the ethics code they would abide by and of course he should be disclosing and avoiding those types of situations that can cause a conflict of interest because if you think about this just being completely allowed then this will be the way the special interest groups and wealthy

and powerful individuals try to leverage their power with the supreme court justice to have them rule more in the favor of that entity or individual's special interest and it's so important we don't allow that to happen there are massive structures in place right now and movements and organizations that spend everything every single day trying to affect the supreme court through a long-term uh goal a long-term vision that takes years and years elections impacting who's the president who's in the senate to try to get the proper people on the supreme court if it could be as easy as i'm going to shower this person with money so they rule in my interest which could be what any person falls into with

enough money enough gifts then we hope that's not the case but that at least could be the appearance then all of a sudden we don't have anywhere close to a legitimate supreme court and that is a massive problem so in the interest of the legitimacy of the supreme court and uh a complete absence of conflicts of interest like this he needs to be held accountable and change needs to be made on this front. I know some Senate Democrats are trying to do that and pushing through legislation that won't get through because of Republicans. But if eventually Democrats have majorities in the House and Senate and still have the White House possibly mandating a code of ethics onto the Supreme Court

would absolutely be a good start. Thank you all so much for watching and listening to today's show. It was great to be with you, and I'll be back with you tomorrow and, of course, on today's bonus show.