The David Pakman Show - 9/12/22: Trump Arrest Rumors Fly as 2022 Debates Build

Episode Date: September 12, 2022

-- On the Show: -- Donald Trump arrives in Washington DC unexpectedly, surging rumors about a possible impending arrest -- Republican Congresswoman Lauren Boebert gives the same answer, about Nancy Pe...losi, to numerous questions during her latest Congressional race debate -- Former Democratic Senator Al Franken turns Republican strategist Alice Stewart into a sputtering mess by asking her one simple question -- Republican Senate candidate Herschel Walker delivers his most incoherent interview yet -- Speculation grows that Donald Trump moved documents sought by the FBI at Mar-a-Lago to another of his golf clubs, most likely Bedminster -- Donald Trump wants taxpayers to pay for the "special master" that he convinced a judge to grant him -- Donald Trump appears to turn on his own former Attorney General William Barr, making fun of his weight during a strange speech at his own golf club -- Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene shares the medical photos of a child in a bizarre anti-trans rant -- The next Alex Jones defamation trial is starting --Voicemail caller wrongly believes David uncritically praises Joe Biden -- On the Bonus Show: King Charles won't have to pay inheritance tax on Queen's estate, Nigeria will become first country to ban foreign models in television ads, companies are dropping vaccine mandates, much more... 🌳 Use code PAKMAN for 20% off HoldOn plant-based bags at https://holdonbags.com 💻 Get Private Internet Access for 82% OFF + 3 months free at https://privateinternetaccess.com/david 🔊 Try Blinkist for FREE and get 25% off at http://www.blinkist.com/pakman 👍 Get 20% off an Allform sofa or armchair at https://allform.com/pakman ❄️ ChiliSleep: Get 30% OFF your new bed-cooling sleep system at https://chilisleep.com/pakman -- Become a Supporter: http://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/davidpakmanshow -- Subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/thedavidpakmanshow -- Subscribe to the Pakman Live YouTube Channel: https://www.davidpakman.com/pakmanlive -- Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave us a message at The David Pakman Show Voicemail Line (219)-2DAVIDP

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Speaker 1 This is a very sort of surprising way to start today's show. But there is now speculation that Donald Trump is in Washington, D.C., and may be getting arrested or indicted imminently. Now, it is speculative, but the speculation is based on a previously unannounced, seemingly last minute trip that Donald Trump made to Washington, D.C. last night. Newsweek reporting Donald Trump's surprise visit to Washington, D.C., sparks arrest speculation. Trump made a surprised and unannounced visit to D.C. Sunday, prompting speculation and rumors about the reason for his trip. The video of Trump arriving at Dulles Airport in Virginia,
Starting point is 00:00:57 an airport frequently used by those heading to the Capitol, was posted online by freelance reporter Andrew Lydon. Trump can be seen getting out of a plane, heading into a vehicle. Trump appears to be wearing golf shoes and a white polo top. Now we're getting into details that seem so trivial, but there have already been counterpoints that it appears to be a golf, his golf shoes, but those are not actually shoes Trump wears to golf. And thus the idea is he is not just showing up to golf or necessarily coming from the golf course. But Trump does stay at his golf courses when he travels around if there's one available. And the motorcade then is believed to have gone in the direction of one of Trump's golf courses. Now, there is video of what took place and there are a number of very strange things in the video.
Starting point is 00:01:44 We're going to play it. See if you can spot some of them. Then I'll mention a couple of things that I notice and that others have noticed as well. We see Donald Trump coming off the plane, holding something not totally clear what he is holding and getting into a vehicle is making its way off. And then this is at six thirty one p.m. And then they drive away. One of the really, really strange things that was pointed out is that it sort of looks like Trump is carrying a bottle of ketchup, a bottle of ketchup, which is an extraordinarily strange thing for a president, a former president to be carrying. But it might be something else could be a MAGA hat folded up or who knows what it is. So there's a couple of different things going on here. First of all, do we really know why he's in D.C.? We don't. Do we know that it is an unexpected
Starting point is 00:02:37 and unplanned trip up until the last moment? We do, because there generally is awareness of the soon to be whereabouts of the former president. One explanation would be some kind of medical issue. Certainly a possibility. Second possibility. He's he's back to be reinstated as president of the United States. Not one I believe is likely, but there are already the sort of Q people and conspiracy people that are speculating along these lines already. And number three is that it has something to do with the federal investigation against him for he's in there in the city for meetings that were previously undisclosed based on who knows what is going on. OK, fine. This is strange. There are a number of strange things here. And for people who understand sort of protocol and the amount of information that is known ahead of time about where Donald Trump plans to be, this is certainly unusual.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Now, for those who are continuing to have this idea of the perp walk, the perp walk that at some point may happen if Donald Trump is indicted. I don't think it makes sense to hold our breaths for that. As I've said before, every indication that if indeed Donald Trump is going to be indicted, that there is going to be a sort of coordinated handoff involving Secret Service and that there is not going to be the perp walk that many of us admittedly would love to see of Donald Trump at some point in time, but no shortage of the conspiracy people immediately jumping to he is back to be declared president by, I don't know, the newly anointed King Charles the third or who the hell knows what. That is not what Donald Trump is in Washington, D.C. for.
Starting point is 00:04:20 You now know everything that is known to us as of this moment. And by the time today's episode goes live, by the time this clip gets up on YouTube and Facebook and elsewhere, since it takes a couple of hours for us to turn the show around, there may be more known and we will then follow up about it. I have some amazing video from a radical Republican Congresswoman Lauren Boebert's recent debate. As some of you may know, there is a 2022 midterm election just around the corner now about seven weeks away. And some of the main debates are starting. We are following very closely. Will John Fetterman and Mehmet Oz debate? Will Herschel Walker finally agree to debate Raphael Warnock? And we are following all of these. Lauren Boebert participated in a debate against her opponent,
Starting point is 00:05:13 Adam Frisch, and she seemed to glitch very, very badly. I don't know how many of you remember when Marco Rubio during a Republican primary debate in 2016 repeated the same answer multiple times, almost like a glitchy robot. I don't know how many of you remember Kelly Loeffler with her radical liberal Raphael Warnock repeated it repeated line during her debates with Raphael Warnock. Lauren Boebert answering close to a dozen questions by talking about Nancy Pelosi and her con game. It is bizarre. The Boebert bot glitching badly. Check this out. Candidate Boebert, you have three minutes for that. Nancy Pelosi is running a con game in Washington, D.C.
Starting point is 00:06:02 By the way, Nancy Pelosi is not Lauren Boebert's opponent. In case you thought maybe that's why she kept talking about Pelosi. Nancy's con game works like this. Fire Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi's. I'm Adam Frisch. I'm not Nancy Pelosi. I'm Adam Frisch. I'm not Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi plays in it with Pelosi's con game. Pelosi pushes this, but she will put a 2,000 page bill on our desks at midnight. Nancy Pelosi's con game, playing Nancy's con game to do it. Yeah. DC to play Nancy Pelosi's con game.
Starting point is 00:06:38 It makes me terribly sad when Nancy Pelosi uses the. It meant more inflation, more borrowing from China. And Pelosi knows it. Pelosi's con games. This was a blank check. And. OK, I'm Adam Frisch. I'm not Nancy Pelosi. There was no interest.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And Nancy Pelosi is running a con game under Pelosi. Democrats are told the Pelosi con game in Aspen. And just like Pelosi budget committee and Nancy Pelosi will not. It's not time to help Nancy Pelosi. It is time to fire Nancy Pelosi. This election say no to liberal extremists and their army of IRS agents. I'm Adam Frisch.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I'm not Nancy Pelosi. I'm Adam Frisch. I'm not Nancy Pelosi. OK, they have quite literally nothing to offer. There is nothing to offer there. And if you live in Lauren Boebert's district in Colorado, it's a very red district. I understand that. And Boebert. Oh, no, actually, this may be a district that was redrawn. So in any case, the previously Boebert's district was was a very red district. Fine.
Starting point is 00:07:48 You don't like Nancy Pelosi, but don't you as a Republican in her district, Boebert's district still want to hear some vision of what Boebert will do, even if it's things that I don't agree with. Don't their own voters want to hear here are the types of regulations I'm going to try to get cut. Here's how I would change the tax code. Here's here are the types of projects I would support in order to bring dollars into this district. Like it seems weird that even the voters in Colorado are so concerned with Nancy Pelosi in this way that this would be an effective campaign strategy. But the saddest thing about it is this stuff can probably work OK in these
Starting point is 00:08:31 highly weaponized electorates. When you have such a highly weaponized constituency as Lauren Boebert does, where they don't even really understand the types of things Lauren Boebert could be advocating for for them. They have become propagandized to the point where her own voters believe the role of someone like Boebert, whoever is their member of Congress, is to do things like fight the Pelosi con job. We have such a lack of education and understanding of what these elected officials can even do for us, that there was a time where the way that these debates would go would be it would be a focus on the district.
Starting point is 00:09:15 And sure. Yeah. I mean, listen, Congress has a investigative role when it comes to whether to bring articles of impeachment and Congress has an oversight role. Of course, they choose the speaker of the House. Yes. But there was a time when what voters wanted to hear was their candidates understanding of their district, not what's going on in Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco or in Washington, D.C. Understand what's going on in our district. Hey, you know what? In our district, we have a dozen bridges that are rated low, whatever high risk of possible failure. Here are the three ways in which I'm going to take care of those bridges in our district so
Starting point is 00:10:01 that all of your commutes to work are safer, so that we don't risk huge traffic interruptions when these and loss of life. We prevent loss of life when you and your kids are driving over. This is just an example. But there was a time where that was the approach and the candidates would debate about, well, I would like to better our infrastructure this way versus the other candidate wants to better our infrastructure that way. I'm talking 30 years ago, at least. OK, but that's the way it used to be. It's now, oh, Nancy Pelosi's con job. And this is something they just they've tried before with this stuff. It fortunately failed for Kelly Loeffler. But remember when Kelly Loeffler pulled this or tried to pull it against Raphael Warnock during that special election in 2021? The Democrats want to fundamentally change America. And the agent of change is my
Starting point is 00:10:50 opponent, radical liberal Raphael Warnock. My opponent, radical liberal Raphael Warnock, radical liberal Raphael Warnock, radical liberal Raphael Warnock, radical liberal Raphael Warnock, radical liberal Raphael Warnock, radical liberal Raphael Warnock. Radical liberal Raphael Warnock. Radical liberal Raphael Warnock is a socialist. Radical liberal Raphael Warnock. Radical liberal Raphael Warnock. Radical liberal Raphael Warnock. Radical liberal Raphael Warnock. Radical liberal Raphael Warnock.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Anyway, it goes on from there. Now fortunately in that special election in Georgia, it didn't work and there were some special dynamics, including quite frankly that Trump and people around him were saying it was all rigged anyway in Georgia in November. And that probably dissuaded a lot of Republicans from even going out to vote on January 5th in that special election, because, listen, even their dear orange leader told them it's all rigged. Your vote essentially doesn't matter. So a lot of special things went on there. And so it didn't work for Loeffler. But this is not a new thing. And it has succeeded for them to some degree because their constituents accept it. They have come to embrace a complete lack of policy discussion in exchange, accepting things like,
Starting point is 00:11:59 well, Warnock's a socialist and Nancy Pelosi's running a con job. Let's see how it works out for them in November next week on nine 19 September 19. We will be doing our next one day membership special folding in many new members into the ranks of membership. I hope if you've been thinking I would get a membership, but it's got to be a good deal. Get on my newsletter at David Pakman dot com. And then next Monday, 919, you'll get an email from us bright and early in the morning telling you how to take advantage of this great membership discount. Plastic is everywhere we look and not enough is being done about it. One hundred billion plastic bags are used and thrown away every year. But you can help make a change. Our sponsor Hold On makes
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Starting point is 00:15:10 orientation of the court. And I have not seen anything like this in a very long time. Al Franken turned Alice Stewart into a sputtering mess over the issue of Republicans holding up nominations, including that of Merrick Garland. And it is it's truly a pleasure to watch. And, you know, one of the things we've been talking about on the show is Democrats need to be on the offensive. Gavin Newsom said Democrats need to be ruthless. And I completely agree. We need more like this, because when you actually don't allow them to squirm away from direct questions like when else was this strategy
Starting point is 00:15:47 used to deny nominees a hearing other than for Merrick Garland? Alice Stewart completely implodes. This is so well done. Take a look. A week before the election. That destroyed the legitimacy of the court. Alice, what do you think? Did Chief Justice Roberts sort of, I mean, he sort of ignored some of what Al is talking about there and that there is a tremendous amount of controversy
Starting point is 00:16:19 as to how this court got tilted in the direction of the far right. Just to throw a little accuracy in some of what Al said there. Look, Merrick Garland was held up because we had a divided government. We had a Democrat in the White House and we had Republicans in control of- That's not what was said. That's not what McConnell said. But that's the way historically this has been. When you're in close to an election year and you have divided government.
Starting point is 00:16:46 That's not the way it's been historically done. Yes. And when you have divided government, there typically is. Now you'll actually see the moment she starts sputtering. Inclination to. Tell me when this happened before. When you. Tell me when it happened before.
Starting point is 00:17:01 When you're. Well, Merrick Garland is certainly one. When there's a divided government. No, before Merrick Garland. They're not moving forward when there's a divided government. Tell me when this happened before. Al, I'm telling you, this is what the Mitch McConnell says. Tell me when it happened before.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I can't give you an exact... You said this is what happened historically. Tell me when it happened before. Look, this is the way that the Republicans... When? Like, I can't give you an exact example of when this happened in the past. No, you know why you can't? Because it hadn't happened before. Look, the basis for not appointing a little piece of a speech that Biden had given in June of 80. And Biden said they wouldn't take up if they weren't consulted.
Starting point is 00:17:59 And this was about someone resigning in June after a term of the court, which is very different than someone dying. Scalia died in February. And you saw, you guys, if you can find the tape, you can find Lindsey Graham saying, keep the tape. We will not take up a judge if someone dies, a nominee, if someone dies in an election year in the next election. This is total hypocrisy. And you actually, I'm surprised that you're claiming this and you can't come up with an example because there is none. To get back to the point of the conversation here. is the no, I'm just this is the point.
Starting point is 00:18:48 That's exactly right. We're talking about Kamala Harris and her calling Kamala the current Supreme Court justices, activist justices, because she doesn't like the outcome of the ruling. And when they're made their decision. Yeah. And of course, the point here is how did this court even become what it is? I think that to some degree, this is what Democrats need to do every time Republicans lie, call them out, shame them, continue to expose that they are lying. Now, why was why did this even happen? You have to understand, right? It's because Jim Acosta allowed it to happen
Starting point is 00:19:22 in many other settings. The anchor or the interviewer will will prevent this from happening, either for reasons of time and formatting or because they want to bail out one side. Jim Acosta at any point could have jumped in and saved Alice Stewart. She didn't deserve to be saved. And it's a good thing that Jim Acosta didn't. She was lying. And the other person she's arguing against called her out for her lies. And it was silly to think that you were going to be able to get away with that with someone
Starting point is 00:19:51 like Al Franken. Al Franken identified the silly game and he called it out. Now this is representative of a bigger issue with the Republican Party right now. They have zero integrity in politics. If there is no precedent or a rule that says you can't do something, they will do it and then they will say that's the precedent. I mean, think of the I want to stop short of calling it evil genius because it's it's these things aren't really that smart. They work because the system tolerates them and the people tolerate them.
Starting point is 00:20:23 And maybe maybe we shouldn't. But the the idea here is she says, OK, well, we did this thing with Merrick Garland. And Al Franken says, but what's the precedent for that? And she says, well, it happened with Garland. Right. No. But what's the precedent at that point? What was the precedent? We did it with Garland. No, but that Garland can't be the precedent for Garland. It's all so stupid and it's such a base and fundamentally vapid sort of framing of the debate. But when they're allowed to get away with it, of course, they're going to continue doing it. And, you know, to go back to the Al Franken thing, we've talked about this before. Al Franken did engage in a very distasteful joke. You know, this photograph that that led to his eventual resignation from the from the
Starting point is 00:21:09 Senate. I do think Democrats were a little quick in order to show their lack of hypocrisy in demanding that Franken resign when compared to so many other things that have happened for which no one has resigned. It was so minor. And we've talked to Democrats who say, yeah, I was it was actually a little bit jumping the gun on demanding Franken resigned just to show how non hypocritical we are. Franken is really good at this and absolutely humiliating there for Alice Stewart. Also humiliating, by the way, new interview on the anniversary of 9-11, the twenty first anniversary of 9-11, which was over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Republican Senate nominee in Georgia, Herschel Walker, appeared on Fox News's program with Maria Bartiromo, and he tried to make a statement about the twenty first anniversary of 9 11. And it was completely unintelligible and confusing. Very shaky. The entire interview was very shaky. He is now winning in more polls. Walker is now ahead of Warnock in Georgia. And look at how he can't even make sense of anything.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Well, you know, you got to pay tribute to the 9 11 victims, you know, but also you saw America come together. You saw America come together because this country was, you know, it was on the war with a country that didn't believe in us. And what this country was on the war against a country that didn't believe in us. And then the country came together. Does he think that the Iraq war was related to 9-11, even though that's been widely debunked for decades. Does he think that the war was with a different country? It's not clear what he's talking about. Now we have leaders in Washington like Joe Biden doing venomous speeches. Right. That doesn't believe in American people. Right. So Walker continuing to really struggle to make any sense. Walker at one point raised the great Maya Angelou and tried
Starting point is 00:23:28 to use language that certainly would make Maya Angelou up in the heavens, roll her eyes, I'm sure. But for this country, I'm fighting for Georgia because if we give up that seat and I know Maya Angelou said it, when you see what when somebody tells you who they are, believe them right now, since Raphael won't have been in office, we hire taxes. We got higher gas prices. We got the economy is gone. It's terrible. Right. We have almost full employment. We have gas prices seeing one of their fastest declines in a long time. The gas price increase had nothing to do with Warnock. The gas price decrease has nothing to do with Warnock. And then as far as taxes going
Starting point is 00:24:10 up, they're just there has not been a tax reform where, quote, taxes have gone up in the in the vague and overarching way that Herschel Walker is talking about. Just none of it makes sense. During the same interview, Walker saying 70% of drugs go through Atlanta, Georgia. Tell me about the issues and what needs to be done regarding the border and crime. Well, one of the things that people don't know, Georgia is not a border state, but 70% of the drugs coming into this country goes through Atlanta, Georgia. And that's something that my opponent don't want to address. Well, he's not addressing it because there's no evidence that it's true.
Starting point is 00:24:45 It's really unclear what Walker means by 70 percent of drugs coming into this country go through Atlanta. I researched it under any of its possible meanings. I was unable to verify that claim. Does he mean that the 70 percent of drugs are coming through the Atlanta airport, which is a major airport? Does he mean that 70 percent of the drugs are being driven through Atlanta, Georgia, on the roads? By no possible definition, was I able to verify that? And then lastly, Walker with I think that this is a transphobic statement,
Starting point is 00:25:19 but it's not even really clear. That's something that my opponent don't want to address. You don't want to address the border. Have you noticed that it seemed like everyone on the left don't want to address the problem of this economy crime. They don't want to address. They don't address men and women's sports. They don't want to address. They even talking about Ray Rother talk about whether a man can get pregnant.
Starting point is 00:25:39 That's not important right now. He really has a way with words, but I don't know what the hell he's talking about. And he is increasingly winning, winning his race. Can you believe that? If we look at the latest polling data, the last three polls have Walker ahead. The last three polls have Walker ahead. This is a guy who should have zero percent support. But our electorate and particularly the electorates of states like Georgia, to some degree, particularly among Republicans in Georgia, horrifying, weaponized, propagandized individuals.
Starting point is 00:26:20 It's scary stuff. Extraordinarily scary stuff, extraordinarily scary stuff. John Bolton and Michael Cohen both speculated that Donald Trump likely moved at least some of the documents the FBI wanted to a different golf club. And it is now increasingly looking like that may well be the case. Did Trump transfer documents to Bedminster? That's another one of his golf clubs. Ex FBI official floats the theory. Peter Strzok had a very interesting tweet thread over the weekend where he said, better
Starting point is 00:26:54 check Bedminster on May 6. Nara emails Trump to say material is missing and maybe at Mar-a-Lago that we know this is part of what ultimately led to the raid. On May 9th, Trump gets on a private plane from Paul Beach to met Bedminster on video. Several boxes are seen loaded onto the plane. That is indeed true. You see in this picture, there are boxes being loaded onto the plane. OK, but we don't the boxes are boxes. There could be, you know, just Sudafed in there. It could be anything. Peter Strzok goes on to say, does the type and brand of box look familiar?
Starting point is 00:27:37 Well, yeah, I mean, it does look like the exact type of box that is pictured in the image of Donald Trump's office where the documents were found. Great visual, says Peter Strzok, though number one might be two stacked boxes, meaning nine, not eight boxes. Good example of harm to national security from waiting to use Mar-a-Lago classified documents, I.D. and interview these folks, compare their fingerprints to those on the seized documents and empty folders. And certainly when you look at this video, you do see a lot of boxes that look identical to the ones that were carried out that were photographed in Trump's office being carried onto the plane. That is absolutely true. Now, it is speculative. This is a speculative case,
Starting point is 00:28:20 but it makes perfect sense. And remember, Trump's own former national security adviser, Michael Michael Bolt. It would be like Trump to have Michael Bolton as is. I make what happened. There is Michael Cohen and John Bolton. It's a portmanteau. Michael Bolton, the singer, John Bolton, Trump's former national security adviser, said he probably moved documents elsewhere. Michael Cohen, who knows Trump well, said he probably moved documents elsewhere. Michael Cohen, who knows Trump well, said he probably has documents elsewhere. These are likely not all the documents. Then we find empty folders marked top secret. And of course, Trump didn't take empty folders. At some point they had something in them. And where the documents are remains a question. We don't know for sure. But as we build up a picture of what
Starting point is 00:29:06 took place, we see that the likeliest scenario, the simplest explanation is that there are documents elsewhere somewhere. And now it's a matter of finding them. We'll have the clip I played of the boxes being loaded. If you're just listening today, we'll have that clip on our Instagram. Find us on Instagram at David Pakman show. If you want to take a look for yourself. The David Pakman show's longest running sponsor is Blinkist, the app that takes thousands of nonfiction books, boils each of them down into an explainer you can read or listen to in 15 minutes. Blinkist also condenses episodes of popular podcasts into 15 minute explainers. I've been using Blinkist for years to supplement the books I read. I love reading. I read all the time, but there's even more books I don't have time to read. And you can often find those nonfiction books on Blinkist and consume the entire thing in
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Starting point is 00:32:18 dot com slash Pacman. That's a LLFOR M dot com slash Pacman. The link is in the podcast notes. Well this you have to see to believe or maybe not. Donald Trump wants you and me taxpayers to pay for his bogus special master that never should have even been granted. So let's back up and I'll tell you what's going on. Business Insider headline Trump wants to split the cost of the special master with the government, but the DOJ wants him to pay for it.
Starting point is 00:32:52 A judge granted Trump's request for a special master, but the DOJ has appealed the decision. Now, remember, Judge Eileen Cannon granted Trump's request for a special master. A special master would take control of all the documents seized from Trump's Mar-a-Lago, would review them and would see are there documents here that shouldn't be part of the FBI investigation because they are in some way privileged? Are there documents here that shouldn't be part of the investigation, maybe because they contain medical information or whatever the case may be? That granting of a special master has been found by legal experts who have weighed in to be absolutely absurd and raises major questions about Judge Eileen Cannon.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Fine. But then we get to the question of who's going to pay for this. A new court filing shows the two sides disagree over who should pay for the special master. The government said Trump, as the party requesting the special master, should bear the cost. But Trump wants the government to split it with him, even though the DOJ does not agree. The filing also outlined disagreements between the government and Trump's legal team regarding how the entire special master process would unfold. No surprise there. Trump's team proposed to split evenly the professional fees and expenses of the
Starting point is 00:34:11 special master and any professionals, support staff and expert consultants engaged at the master's request. But the Justice Department has already started reviewing the seized materials, doesn't want a special master appointed and disagreed. The government's position is that as the party requesting the special master plaintiff should bear the additional expense of the special master's work. This actually could be so hypothetical. If Judge Eileen Cannon is coming around to the fact that her decision to grant the special master was the wrong decision, if she's coming around to that, this could be a way to get out because we know Trump doesn't pay for stuff. And the decision could be made. You pay for all of it or there's no special master. That would be one thing that to look at that would be interesting. But the whole premise of Trump's argument and the judge ruling with him is that his documents must be protected and sorted through. The government doesn't have such a concern. If the government believes that they were authorized to obtain the documents, that everything was done on the up and up, all of those things. And, and, uh,
Starting point is 00:35:25 indeed remember that classified and top secret documents, those aren't Trump's documents. Those are government documents. If Trump wants to make the case, they are his documents and they shouldn't be released and all these different things. It should be him. It should be he who actually ends up paying for it. And we don't know if that's actually the direct the direction it's going to go. It doesn't make sense that Trump gets to dictate to the government what of its own documents. Because remember, as William Barr has said this, who else has said so many Republicans have now said these aren't Trump's documents. These are government documents.
Starting point is 00:36:05 These are the people's documents, for lack of a better term. It doesn't make sense that Trump gets to tell the government what they need to do with their own documents. And then they also pay for that. It is Trump who has to get to do that. He wants the special master. He should have to pay for it. It doesn't make sense to keep deferring to him in this way.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Now what's the strategy? The strategy is just a delay. That's the strategy. And it's a well-known legal strategy. You often it applies often in criminal trials where most criminal defense attorneys will tell you the longer we can delay, the better for everybody. Number one, and this is I sort of say this tongue in cheek, but also not. The more motions to delay that a lawyer can file and succeed with, the more the lawyer gets to bill all else being equal and continue extending, extending, extending. And listen, at the end of the day, yeah, lawyers want to make money. Oh, the bonus show where you want to make money.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Yeah, sometimes people want to make money. OK, but that's not to suggest lawyers would unethically do that. There is also the legal explanation, which lawyers have told me, which is the longer you can delay a criminal case. Witnesses might die. Witnesses recollection becomes less accurate. Documents might be lost. Evidence might be misplaced. And it generally speaking favors defendants to delay, delay, delay in criminal trials. Laws might change. This applies
Starting point is 00:37:33 more to like white collar. And even though generally speaking, the way you are prosecuted is based on what the law was at the time. It's still not going to hurt you if the law changes in a way that is favorable. All these different things can happen. So that's the strategy here. Delay as much as possible, period. And this is it's like a kid trying to delay bedtime. Well, you know, I need to use the bathroom and I'm getting thirsty. And oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:56 I need to check what's my lunch tomorrow. And now I'm hungry. And then, oh, well, I got to brush my teeth again. It's the same type of thing. And now Trump wants you to pay for it. And hopefully that is rejected. Let's talk a little bit about William Barr. William Barr was the attorney general at the end of Donald Trump's failed presidential
Starting point is 00:38:17 term. And William Barr has basically turned on Trump, but would probably still vote for him over a Democrat. I know. Think think that through. But William Barr has now said, listen, all of this stuff about privilege doesn't make sense. Trump having documents at a country club doesn't make sense. None of it makes sense. And now it does appear as though Trump has fully turned on William Barr as well. Sort of a deranged open mic night feel at Bedminster over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:38:47 That's one of Donald Trump's golf clubs. And in what is just an absolutely terrible, terrible attempt at stand up comedy, Trump went after Bill Barr basically by calling him fat, saying all he wanted to do was eat. Check this out. And I apologize for the poor audio quality. Yeah. What's crazier, the things that Trump says, like my attorney general was fat, even though, by the way, Trump doesn't exactly look like he's missed too many meals or the fact that the cult members laugh as if this stuff were funny, as if this stuff were fun. Both are kind of weird. Another clip. This also I believe this is also from Bedminster, but in a different room or something here, Trump is already suggesting that Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who's running for governor of Arkansas,
Starting point is 00:40:11 and yes, she's the daughter of former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee. Trump already is floating that Sarah Huckabee Sanders is going to have the election stolen from her due to this ubiquitous and ever present fraud. I bought a Trump tie. Can you believe that? Right. And I said, I love this guy. I love this guy. But Mike has been a friend of mine from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:40:30 His daughter, as you know, I give Janet the credit. I give Janet the credit. But and they're both here, by the way, two incredible people. But his daughter is just an incredible person. And I think that's what I'm trying to say. I think that's what I'm trying to say. I think that's what I'm trying to say. I think that's what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I think that's what I'm trying to say. I think that's what I'm trying to say. I think that's what I'm trying to say. I think that's what I'm trying to say. I think that's what I'm trying to say. I think that's what I'm trying to say. I think that's what I'm trying to say. I think that's what I'm trying to say. I think that's what I'm trying to say. I think that's what I'm trying to say. I think that's what I'm trying the credit. I give Janet the credit. And they're both here, by the way, two incredible people. But his daughter is just an exceptional person.
Starting point is 00:40:51 An exceptional person. And when you see what they have right now, feeding us the information, and then you compare that with Sarah, it's not even believable. She was so incredible, and she took abuse abuse and she gave it back when necessary. But she took tremendous abuse. And they were nasty right from day one. Terrible. But there was nobody ever like her.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Now she's going to be. I mean, we don't want to talk. There still is an election in November, Mike, right? You know, so she still has to win it. They say pretty routine, but there's nothing routine in politics, Mike. You know, maybe those votes don't come in. Maybe they find a couple of million votes like they did with us.
Starting point is 00:41:29 There'll be a big dump at three or two in the morning in the state of Arkansas. More dumps votes will be found and she will have lost by one hundred votes. Now it's not going to happen, but she but she still does have an election. So we have to remember that. But she's an incredible person. Yeah. Now, Trump is right. It does seem like it's that George the Arkansas gubernatorial seems like it's mostly going to be a formality. Doesn't look like a Democrat's going to take that one. But this is the constant undermining of confidence in our election systems. And there's nothing concerning happening in Arkansas, period. There is nothing concerning happening in Arkansas as far as the election goes.
Starting point is 00:42:08 It's an extremely red state. And Sarah Huckabee Sanders will probably win. But in some other places that are slightly less red, red, but slightly less red. We've already seen Democrats win and they immediately say that there's fraud. There is no evidence of fraud. It's that we do have a unique situation where many Americans are completely sick and tired of these Republican nuts. You have many Americans who are seeing Roe v. Wade, nothing done on gun safety, nothing presented as far as policy, just attacking Democrats, attacking liberals on and on and on.
Starting point is 00:42:41 And they're sick enough of it that independents primarily, but some Republicans are choosing to vote for Democrats and turning out in greater numbers. And so we've seen some relatively surprising Democratic wins early so far. And we will see what happens in November. It's not even a question. They're going to do the voter fraud routine again. It's not not even a doubt. Sarah Palin has already done it in Alaska. Carrie Lake did it in Arizona. Interestingly, nobody's saying there was fraud where Liz Cheney lost her primary in Wyoming. Very interesting.
Starting point is 00:43:17 I wonder why that is incredible. With years of fraud in every race, suddenly the Wyoming primary for Liz Cheney was totally clean. Well, what can you do? Must be some explanation for that. But they're going to keep doing this. And it's it's totally plausible it will again lead to violence at some point in the future. Horrible stuff. And they do it so casually. It's very anti-American. The science has shown us that one of the ways to achieve consistent deep sleep is to lower your core body temperature at night. It also is just really uncomfortable to be too hot when you're trying to sleep. Our longtime sponsor, Chili Sleep, makes customizable climate controlled sleep solutions that improve your sleep by keeping
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Starting point is 00:45:47 sharing the medical information of a child. Now, we're going to look at an article from LGBTQ Nation. There's nothing really concerning in what I'm going to show you. But there are like sort of very mild medical pictures that are going to come up as part of what Marjorie Taylor Greene tweeted. Just as a heads up, Marjorie Taylor Greene shares child's medical photos in bizarre anti-trans rant. It's not clear the congresswoman even knows what the photos show, but she's sure they show a minor and she shared the pictures anyway. OK. Marjorie Taylor Greene shared pictures of one or more minors on Twitter in order to attack the family of a possibly transgender young person. This child is not old enough to vote, buy cigarettes or watch an R-rated movie, but they let her choose to have them cut her breast off, she wrote while sharing a tweet
Starting point is 00:46:43 with two pictures. One of the pictures shows a girl in her early teens fully dressed. The other shows a young person in their late teens or early 20s shirtless after what happens, what appears to be a double mastectomy. My Protect Children's Innocence Act will stop this, she wrote, referring to a bill she introduced last month. Green retweeted anti trans activist Chloe Cole, who wrote reality reality check, nothing is OK about this. OK, so the pictures are here. OK, there's there's really nothing. There's almost nothing that we can see here
Starting point is 00:47:14 on the left. Again, it's a picture of what appears to be a young woman. And then on the right, you can't even really tell if it's the same person. You can't really tell anything about it. There's someone with with band aids over their nipples and there's a scar and there could have been a double mastectomy there. We don't even really know who this is or what it is. But Marjorie Taylor Greene's belief is that it's all the same person and that at least in some of these pictures, maybe all this individual is a minor. Now what's called gender affirming surgery is not performed on minors, writes LGBTQ
Starting point is 00:47:55 Nation. In fact, the oft repeated claim was rated false by PolitiFact. Nevertheless, the idea that children's hospitals are performing gender affirming surgeries on young children has gained traction on the far right, leading to harassment and death threats against pediatricians. OK, I don't even care about that part because we've covered that part before. This is not a HIPAA issue. What Marjorie Taylor Greene did here is not a HIPAA issue.
Starting point is 00:48:19 HIPAA relates to medical professionals and related organizations sharing information about patients. But if Marjorie Taylor Greene is concerned with medical privacy to the point where when she's asked by a journalist, are you vaccinated? She goes, that's my HIPAA. You don't get to ask me that. Then she really should care about this. This should be wrong based on her own apparent moral compass. There is no such thing as a low below which this woman will not stoop. She's a horrible person. I hope that there are consequences for this. These people offer nothing substantive. And as we talked about earlier in the show, when Lauren Boebert during her debate against her opponent in Colorado mentioned Nancy Pelosi's
Starting point is 00:49:08 job a dozen times. Part of it is that stuff works to some degree with their electorate because their electorate is so weaponized. The other part of it is they don't actually have anything substantive to offer. Marjorie Taylor Greene doesn't offer any policy. And this is what you get when you put these people in power, retweeting pictures of individuals she believes are minors. We don't know that they're minors. We don't know the origins of the picture. We really don't know anything. But she believes that at least in one of those pictures, that individual is a minor, if it's even the same person in both pictures. And she still is retweeting and amplifying it. It's absolutely horrifying. Hey, here's very interesting news.
Starting point is 00:49:56 The next Alex Jones defamation trial is starting. Now, I know many of you are probably thinking, David, we we just had the defamation trial. What do you mean, Alex Jones? There was a judgment against him for 50 million. You interviewed me. I interviewed the attorney, Mark Bankston. Well, remember, Mark Bankston told us that was only the first of many trials. And the Associated Press is now reporting trial set to begin for Alex Jones in Sandy Hook case a month after losing one nearly 50 million dollar verdict. Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones is set to go on trial a second time for calling the Sandy
Starting point is 00:50:35 Hook Elementary School shooting a hoax and causing several of the victims families emotional and psychological harm. A six member jury with several alternates in Connecticut will begin hearing evidence Tuesday on how much Jones should pay the families since he already has been found liable for damages to them. The trial is expected to last about four weeks. Last month, a Texas jury ordered Jones to pay forty nine point three million to the parents of six year old Jesse Lewis, one of 26 students and teachers killed in the 2012 shooting in Newtown, Connecticut. Jones lawyers, Jones lawyer said an appeal is planned. This is going
Starting point is 00:51:12 to get really bad. This could be the end of Alex Jones and Infowars. And I have to tell you, the world would be better off if that were the case. The Connecticut case has the potential for an even larger award than the 50 million because it involves three lawsuits which have been consolidated that were filed by 15 plaintiffs, including the relatives of nine of the victims and a former FBI agent who responded to the shooting. This is going to be a really big deal. And the best and most fair if we want to talk about justice, the most just thing that can happen here
Starting point is 00:51:45 is for Alex Jones to have to pay all of these victims for what he did. And this may end info wars. That's true. At the same time, Alex Jones immediately started fundraising on the last verdict and Roger Stone recorded videos supporting Alex Jones fundraising on that verdict. And it's not clear that this is it for his followers. It actually may be motivating his followers from from just little spits and spurts that I've been seeing on Twitter and elsewhere. Some of the InfoWars audience is quite motivated to donate and to buy whatever stuff Alex Jones is selling on the basis of what they believe is a completely unfair verdict. So I don't think it is obvious yet that this is the end for Alex Jones and InfoWars.
Starting point is 00:52:38 But Mark Bankston, the lawyer, the plaintiff's lawyer who we interviewed not long ago, he told me I probably don't have a defamation. Remember, Alex Jones has attacked me. I don't know how many of you guys remember that. Thank your lucky stars every day. You're not Dave Pacman. Oh, the bonus show where you want to make money. Everybody else that makes money to fund themselves is bad. Pacman's a loser. Yeah. Unfortunately, that, according to Mark Bankston, does not raise my case to the point of defamation. But this is probably going to clean out Alex Jones, even if there are comparatively smaller
Starting point is 00:53:11 verdicts. There are so many plaintiffs in this next case. This could be the end and we will be covering it and we will see what happens. We have a voicemail number. That number is two 1 9 2 David P. Here is a caller who uses very disgusting language, some of which we've had to clean up for our broadcast version of the show. But he also is making a point that is just wrong, that I disagree with. Let's just lost my microphone. Oh, my goodness. Did you guys see that? That was crazy. I literally just lost my
Starting point is 00:53:43 microphone. Let's see if I can get it plugged back in. OK, I don't think that's ever happened on the show before. OK, that will probably be memed. We're back. The phone is back. Let's listen to the voicemail. Hey, David, I just want to know why you prefer to gargle Joe Biden's nuts. That's a technical term, the gargling of nuts. On a regular basis. Like I prefer the young Turks because they're at least willing to admit that he is a failure of the president. Right. He is a joke. He does nothing. Yeah, I've not seen that episode of TYT. Speaker 2 You you sit back and waiting for headlines. That make Joe Biden look good in your own eyes. You know, you know, they don't suck his nuts.
Starting point is 00:54:38 The entire segment, that's what you do. So are you funded by the Democratic Party in any capacity or are you that much of a show for the Democratic Party? I don't understand. I thought you were smart initially, but. Oh. Now, I'm starting to doubt my initial assessment of you. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Come on, man. All right. So let's go through it point by point. Joe Biden is basically 20 months into his presidency for the first 17 of those 20 months. When Joe Biden had an accomplishment, I would tell you that he had an accomplishment. And my growing sense was this presidency was not going well. The approval rating or lack thereof reflected that there was there were long periods without any major legislative accomplishments.
Starting point is 00:55:28 There were a number of different events that took place for Biden that were not useful to him. And I called out all of it. And yes, in the last three of his 20 month presidency, there is new life in Joe Biden's presidency, a number of important legislative accomplishments, a number of good economic factors that only relate a little bit to Joe Biden. Remember, as as as I always have, when we see something happen in the economy that doesn't really have anything to do with the president, I gladly tell you that.
Starting point is 00:56:02 And I mentioned it still helps the president when good things happen in the economy. So I think that like many callers, one of two things may be going on. One, they see one of my clips in a vacuum where I praise something Joe Biden did. And their takeaway is that I am gargling Joe Biden's let's use a more polite term, apple bags, OK, that I'm gargling the apple bags sucking up to Joe Biden, I guess the phrase would be because they don't see my other clips and they haven't been paying attention to the show long. And that's one possibility. Other possibility is these people just don't care and they just want to make these allegations. And the third possibility is that they meant to call a different show that often will happen. I will sometimes get people who
Starting point is 00:56:50 call and they go, David, that thing you said about, you know, someone I've never even talked about. That was absolutely horrible. I'm unsubscribing. I don't think you were even subscribed to me because I don't even know what you're talking about. So any of these possibilities are on the table. But I have been very critical of the Biden administration. The last three months have been significantly better for him and many indicators looking better and better economically in the United States. That's the reality. We have a fantastic bonus show for you today. It turns out that the
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Starting point is 00:58:12 drop vaccine mandates for covid. The most interesting thing to me about this is that for years we were hearing from the anti vaccine right. The vaccine mandates at work are just the first step in whatever some dystopian authoritarian slippery slope of tyranny. And we, the reasonable people knew all along, that's not going to happen. That's not at all what this is. This is just vaccine mandates for when it makes sense. And then it's all going to kind of fade away. And that's exactly what happening. And those people are completely silent at this point in time. All of those stories and more we will talk about on today's bonus show when I'm joined by producer Pat Ford. You can sign up at join Pacman dot com. A couple of the things to tell you about.
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Starting point is 00:59:32 My business manager is saying, David, no. Our lawyer is saying, is this discount even legal? It's so huge. And I am saying we're doing it. We are doing it for the people. And so I look forward to seeing you on the bonus show either today or after you get that discount.

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