The David Pakman Show - 9/13/24: Trump staffers defeated, debate conspiracies explode

Episode Date: September 13, 2024

-- On the Show: -- Multiple reports surface that staffers for Donald Trump are completely defeated after his disastrous debate performance and are ready to give up on the campaign -- A flailing and desperate Donald Trump wildly claims that Kamala Harris was given the questions for the ABC debate in advance -- Lara Trump implodes when asked for evidence of voter fraud during an appearance on CNN -- CNN plays a Donald Trump cognitive decline reel, but it's too little too late -- Nikki Haley against attempts to defend voting for Donald Trump during a CNBC interview and it does not go well -- Will MAGA riot at polling places in order to shut them down in November? -- Donald Trump is 78 years old and barely coherent, and corporate media is mostly silent -- The Friday Feedback segment -- On the Bonus Show: Right-wingers claim Kamala had microphone earrings at debate, and much more... 🩳 SHEATH Underwear: Code PAKMAN for 20% OFF at https://sheathunderwear.com/pakman ☕ Beam melatonin hot cocoa: Use code PAKMAN for up to 40% OFF at https://shopbeam.com/pakman 😁 Zippix Toothpicks: Code PAKMAN10 saves you 10% at https://zippixtoothpicks.com 🛡️ Incogni lets you control your personal data! Get 60% off their annual plan: http://incogni.com/pakman 💪 Athletic Greens is offering FREE year-supply of Vitamin D at https://athleticgreens.com/pakman -- Become a Member: https://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/davidpakmanshow -- TDPS Subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/thedavidpakmanshow -- Pakman Discord: https://www.davidpakman.com/discord -- David on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave a Voicemail: (219)-2DAVIDP

Speaker 1 Speaker 3 Welcome, everybody. It is it's almost going to be fall soon. I've got some upstate apple picking planned for this weekend. I'll tell you how that goes. Maybe on the Monday bonus show. Listen, one of the you know, after a debate, the candidates are always going to insist that they won and the campaign is mostly going to in public insist that their candidate won. Although Robert F. Kennedy Jr., now a surrogate of Trump's, maybe one of his most prominent

surrogates did admit on Fox News two days ago that Trump did not win. But if you really want to get a sense of how the debate went, what you want to hear about are the behind the scenes comments from the staffers. And we now have a couple of different bits of insight into that that I want to present to you. And it all paints the same picture of Trump staffers that are defeated and devastated, troubled that Trump wasn't able to do what they told him to do, which is do not start screaming and take the bait from Kamala Harris. Control yourself.

Stay on message. Wasn't able to do it. And that many Trump staffers are ready to just give up altogether and are privately conceding that Donald Trump completely blew it. Let's look at a couple of examples of this. Here is a report from MSNBC. I believe that this is John Heilemann talking about the behind the scenes from staffers. Take a listen to this. Completely set him off. And as many people noted last night, that became then a rally version of Donald Trump,

which is to say, talking about these obscure subjects that the average normie voter, as we like to call them here, who has a life and isn't tuned into this every day, says, what is he talking about? I don't even know. I don't understand what he's what he's getting at here. So, John Heilman, you're there in Philadelphia. You were in the spin room last night. What was the sense of things from both the Trump campaign and the Harris campaign afterward? Well, good morning. And, you know, Joe talked before about how you watch something you, an old political consultant's trick, which is to watch debates with the sound off and you can get a lot on the visual there.

That's true. And it definitely was the case watching this debate. I'll tell you what else you could watch with the sound off and have a good sense of how things went last night. The activity in the spin room where the Trump forces were dejected, defeated, deflated, dispirited. Dilapidated, I would add, for alliterative purposes. There was a photo last night of Matt Gaetz and Steve Miller coming in a few minutes before Donald Trump came into the spin room that went wildly viral on Twitter because it looked like sort of sort of saggy road. It was like a shot of kind of this is what this is what defeat looks

like, folks. These people have been talking about Donald Trump before the debate, like he's Muhammad Ali. He's the greatest debater in the history of presidential debates. He's done it more than anybody else ever. He's going to wipe the floor with her. There will be surprises, Jason Miller said. She won't know what hit her. And they looked like they had had their dogs and cats eaten over the course of that debate. It's also the case, I will tell you that I can report definitively that there is one point of agreement inside the Trump war room and the Harris war room, where both of those war rooms were looking at their dial groups in real time last night. The dial groups that the campaigns are looking at last night showed the same thing, that in real time, the undecided voters that they were looking at, Harris crushed Trump throughout the night.

I mean, David Plouffe and David Binder are not champagne cork popping kind of guys. I'm not suggesting they actually popped into champagne corks last night, but their attitude was that of metaphorical champagne poppers last night. And the people in the Trump war room last night were popping something different, which I think might have been caught up in or or or mailbox. One of the two. So listen, the kind of zoom out on what happened here is if you're a Trump staffer and you watch what's happening, you know, I'm sure you don't like Kamala Harris.

I'm sure on some level you really do believe that Kamala Harris's policies are the bad policies and Trump's policies, to the extent that he has them, understands them or that you understand them are better policies. OK, I'll concede that on some level you really do believe that Trump is better than Harris. But it would be impossible to be a clear thinking, rational individual, sit through that debate and not come away terrified by how easily Kamala Harris was able to elicit this triggered reaction from Trump, where he starts sweating and gripping the lectern and yelling cats and dogs. She set such obvious traps

when she brings up out of nowhere. I would like you to go to a Trump rally and you'll see people bored and people leaving. That is so obvious, a trap for Trump. And he failed on it. He started with, well, no one goes to your rallies, but then he goes further and he says the attendees are paid to be there and he starts screaming and his upper lip is glistening and sweating. And it's hard to look at that and say, man, if in a debate stage format with just three people in the room. Trump is not able to control himself and you can elicit the exact emotional reaction you want. What's happening when he's in the room with Putin? And of course, we know we know what happens when he's in the room with Putin. He

comes out and he goes, no, I don't know. I asked Putin about the hacking. He said he didn't do it. I believe him. He said it very, very strongly. Hillary Clinton pointed this out in 2016. And I know it's really popular to keep hating on Hillary. Not enough people seem to care when Hillary pointed it out in 2016. He is constitutionally not with it. He is not what it takes at a per. He doesn't have what it takes at a personality level to even be able to do this. And, you know, back with not to revisit 2016, but you had some sexism, this multi-decade smear campaign against Hillary Clinton. The media enamored with the ratings that Trump was generating and then Trump won in 2016. Now, here we are many years later, and I'm hopeful that the country is just way more sick of this crap now than

they were by November of 2016. I don't know. Here is another clip about reporting about what Trump staffers are saying, feeling and doing. This one's from CNN. I lead source tonight might be the main reason why Trump was knocked so off his game. We'll speak to him in a second. But I do want to start with some new reporting for you tonight on what happened in Philadelphia last night. I'm told that as soon as Donald Trump exited that debate stage, he immediately began quizzing those waiting in his viewing room about how the last 90 minutes had gone. Now, this, of course, classic sign of insecurity. Did I do OK? Was it OK? How was it?

Did I was it good? Was it not good? And of course, on some level, Trump knows that it was not good. But please, please, how did I do? Was it? Is it? While several people praised him to his face, telling him he did a great job. That's not what a lot of them are saying privately today.

Instead, those around Trump have described what happened as a draw at best and a loss at worst. Several of them told CNN they were stunned that the former president failed to do a better job executing on the talking points that he had been preparing with his team for weeks against Vice President Harris, her record, her policy reversals. Trump had actually done more debate prep ahead of his first meeting with Harris than he did for his debate with President Biden earlier this summer. Yet they didn't believe that he made some of the central arguments against her, including this one about why she hasn't carried out the promises that she's making now in the last three and a half years that she has been in office. He didn't go there until his closing argument that surprised a lot of people in his inner circle. Instead, they believe that Trump

took the bait every single time Harris offered it up. Yep. While multiple Trump allies described what happened last night as a missed opportunity for the former president, they have since started downplaying the debate's significance overall, arguing that it won't shift his numbers with voters in states like Pennsylvania. Trump himself is noncommittal today about a potential second debate. But almost every ally of his that I spoke with said they do ultimately believe he will agree to one. All right. So I don't know that he's going to ultimately agree to a debate, but that's very interesting

insight. We've been learning over the last three, four days, three days since the debate that Donald Trump tried much harder to actually win the debate against Kamala Harris. He didn't really seem to think he needed to prepare against Joe Biden. And maybe he didn't. And he didn't really seem to think that he needed to have a strategy as such against Joe Biden. And maybe he didn't.

He just kind of told some lies and didn't get too agitated. And next thing you know, Joe Biden's out of the race. Trump recognized I need to do something here. He had Tulsi Gabbard helping him to prep, which, by the way, that certainly seems to have backfired. Hopefully nobody asks Tulsi Gabbard for debate prep help anymore. And despite Trump's efforts to actually be prepared to defeat Kamala Harris in this debate, she she didn't even sweat. I mean, it's not not metaphorically. She was calm, cool and collected. And Trump was visibly sweating from his upper lip the entire debate and looking pained.

His eye was almost swollen. Shot. He was screaming, gripping the lectern. If there is to be a second debate. I don't know that there's really more Trump can even do to better prepare. But one of the things he is now alleging is that she cheated. When you lose, you claim the other side cheated. Let's talk about that. A flailing Donald Trump, absent any evidence, is now alleging that Kamala Harris was given the questions in advance by ABC

News. And hilariously, he's so shaken by everything that happened. He actually says she was given the answers in advance. There's not only is he lying that she was given the questions. He also says she was given the answers, which kind of doesn't make sense or does it take a listen at a rigged show with somebody that maybe even had the answers. I mean, I'll be honest. I watched her talk and I said, you know, she seems awfully familiar with the questions

and you get pretty good at that stuff after a while. I absolutely love this. So let's put aside for a second the hilarious confusion between someone gave her the questions and someone gave her the answers. OK, put put that aside for a second. Trump says she seemed a little too familiar with the questions. I have shocking news for Donald Trump. She did have the answers in advance and the questions generally were available to both of them. It's called prep. Abortion's going to come up. Well, I got one of the questions. Yeah. Abortion is going to come up. Here are the answers. Trump won't say that he will veto a federal ban on abortion.

Here is what he said at ABC dates. Here is one, two, three things that what. Right. It's called prep. The questions and the answers are available. It's not cheating. It's just called being prepared. And there's this funny irony where Trump always wants to frame it as if it appears that I lost, someone must have cheated. It appears I lost the 2020

election. I didn't. They cheated and I actually really won. Well, maybe the explanation is simpler, which is you didn't actually convey a positive vision, nor did you prove that you deserve another four years based on the way your first term went and people voted a different way. You know, Kamala Harris, she seemed prepared for the questions. She seemed to have the answers. She must have been given the information in advance. Well, kind of everybody was Ukraine's going to come up. Abortion is going to come up. Tax policy is going to come up. What would you do about this is going to come up. And here is how you should be prepared to deal with it. So there's something almost comical where what the average person says is just prep. Trump considers some kind of unfair advantage.

He could have had that same advantage. Could he actually focus during prep and come in ready to stick to what he was told you should do? He did everything, everything the opposite. So next week, I'm guessing by next week we will know whether there's going to be a debate. You know, the end of next week is going to be the 20th, I guess. If by the end of next week there isn't another debate scheduled, particularly since, you know, by the 20th, it'll be only 10 days until the VP debate. And then from then on,

you only have four and a half weeks until Election Day. So I think we will know next week whether there will be another debate. Advice for Trump. If there is to be a second debate, try prepping, try actually prepping and sticking to what you're supposed to do. Make sure you're subscribed to the YouTube channel, youtube.com slash the David Pakman show. We'll take a quick break and the Friday show will continue. Not all men's underwear is the same with traditional underwear. The sticking and the rubbing are something many of us know all too well. But our sponsor, Sheath Underwear, puts it

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not so much generically, but specifically when it comes to mail in ballots. And Lara Trump sort of tries to explain why Trump's statements are coherent, but they're not. And it is really a reminder that when these claims are subjected to any serious scrutiny, they fall apart, particularly in the context of what happened during the debate between Trump and Harris on Tuesday night when it was so egregious and outrageous for Trump to say, I did win 2020 or whatever, however he phrased it.

I got more votes than ever and all this stuff. It's a reminder that just because there are thousands of hours of this stuff on Rumble and on right wing YouTube channels and it all seems like, wow, it sounds like they're saying it so much and I'm not hearing any counterpoint. Maybe it's true. As soon as you subject it to scrutiny, it all falls apart. Let's take a listen. Laura, I also want to ask you about something he posted

uh recently on truth social where he actually called on the rnc the the organization you're co-chair of to activate now and this was around mail-in voting he said uh he was quoting tucker carlson here with an election expert that 20 of mail-in ballots in pennsylvania are fraudulent broad here we go again. Where is the attorney general, the FBI to investigate? Where is the Republican Party in Pennsylvania? The RNC must activate now. Now in August, the RNC, your RNC, and the Trump campaign launched a get out to vote tool where Pennsylvania voters can request a mail-in ballot directly. Is the former president saying that Republicans in Pennsylvania should not ask for these ballots? No, quite the opposite. Donald Trump wants every voter,

no matter if you're voting Republican, Democrat, or third-party candidate, to feel comfortable that you can vote. So why is he saying that 20% of them are fraudulent? He's specifically referencing information from the 2020 election. What we're talking about right now is making sure that every vote matters and every vote counts. And I've worked very hard. What information do we have? What evidence is there that 20% of the mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania in 2020 were fraudulent? I didn't see that report, so I'd have to go back and look at it.

So I can't directly speak to that. But what I can tell you is we've worked very hard on the ground at the RNC to make sure every voter in this country feels like when you cast a ballot, whether it's via mail, whether it's early voting in person or whether it's on Election Day in an election office around the country, your vote matters and your vote counts. And Donald Trump very much wants every Republican voter to vote however they feel most comfortable and every voter in this country to vote however they feel most comfortable.

So I would have to go back and look at that. I have not studied that. Now there I'm going to I'm not going to pick on CNN, but I want to point out a couple of different things that are important to mention here. First of all, she allows Lara Trump to get away with. Trump was referencing information from 2020. I don't think so. I don't think so.

If you actually look at the post, Trump didn't seem to be saying this was a problem back in 2020. Trump seems to be saying that this is a problem now and it's about why now we have to do this, that the other thing and invoke all of these different major actions in order to stop the illegal votes and all of this different stuff. I think Lara Trump was let off a little too easy on that. But more importantly, this whole concept of Donald just wants everybody to vote however they're most comfortable. And that's why now he's talking sometimes about mail in early this, that the other thing, even though at times past he would say it's all completely fraudulent. You have to apply a filter. You know, sometimes we say looking at the world through rose colored glasses,

you have to apply a filter of what's actually best for me. In 2020, Trump calculated anything other than same day in-person voting is bad for me. Why? COVID. He correctly assessed probably that his voters aren't going to have any hesitation to go stand around large groups of people on Election Day, but that Biden voters might because they are more conscious of the pandemic. And so Trump calculated if I try to shut down every other way to vote that doesn't expose people to pathogens and say, you must go in and stand around the big crowds, it probably helps me. That's the filter, the prism through which Trump saw it in the intervening four years as the midterms didn't go too well, as these other forms of

voting, they're not really other forms of voting, other schedules of voting, either early or by mail, et cetera, have become more normalized and mainstream and just kind of part of how we vote as they should be, because many most developed countries have versions of these. Trump now realized, wait a second, telling people not to do that stuff probably hurts me at this point in time. So now I have to say that it's good, except anecdotally, I'm being convinced that it's not good. So Trump is in this impossible pretzel as he always is voting early and by mail is bad, except he did it in 2020 and he did it in 2024 in the primary.

You know, all the as we saw, oh, Florida. But that's different because it's Pennsylvania's where the problem, Florida is no problem. So he's in this ridiculous position. And the absurdity of it trickles down where you end up with Lara Trump on CNN having to just lie and go, oh, no. When he said the thing about the mail in ballots and fraud, he was referring to 2020, even though he was clearly referring to now.

This is what you end up with. And to a normal person with average critical thinking ability, you see this and you just say to yourself, these are just lies. There's there's there's no basis in fact here. These are lies. We've heard from the people paid to go and find the fraud. People like my guest, Ken Block, and he has explained beyond satisfactorily that this is not happening.

The people claiming it is happening seem mentally ill, like Mike Prillo, for example. It just doesn't make any sense. happening seem mentally ill, like Mike Prillo, for example. It just doesn't make any sense. And yet they continue to go on TV and claim it because they are still kissing the ring. And of course, I mean, her last name is Trump. Of course, she has to go and say that there is more that could be done here as far as pushing back. But it is increasingly clear that this is just nonsense and it doesn't seem voters are

actually falling for it in any significant capacity at this point in time. CNN did something funny the other day. Jim Acosta played a Trump cognitive decline reel, you know, a little bit later on in the show. I am going to hit corporate media hard for the fact that there is a complete and total double standard when it comes to the way that Joe Biden's cognitive state was covered, particularly in the aftermath of the June 27th debate and the way that Donald Trump's brain has been covered or maybe better said, not covered for the last many years. And that is the totality of the story. Corporate media

has had a huge double standard and you can occasionally crowbar into corporate media a story about Trump's brain. But good for Jim Acosta. He played a little Trump cognitive gaffe reel the other day. And you like to see. I mean, this is different from the last debate between Donald Trump and President Biden. Democrats are pointing out Trump is now the oldest of the two candidates by nearly two decades this time around, and voters may be focused on his age and mental acuity. Last week, he gave a rambling response to a question about child care policy,

and it's not the first time we've heard him rambling about. Let's listen to some of what he said on the campaign trail recently. The late, great Hannibal Lecter is a wonderful man. He oftentimes would have a friend for dinner. This is inflation. This is tic-tac. This is this is inflation. This is what's happened. But you know what I do if there was a shark or you get electrocuted? I'll take electrocution every single time. I'm not getting near the shark. So we could end that, we could end it for boats, we could end it for trucks. You can do it, baby. I love you so much.

Magic. And this bad news, bad things are happening. Uh, uh, mom, I'm sorry. Uh, mom, I didn't do a bomb. Didn't do it. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. They've only got 17 seconds to figure this whole thing out. Right.

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Boom. OK, so listen, the correct thing, if you wanted to say, hey, what's the evidence? What are the facts? How should corporate media behave? The correct thing would have been that for years now they would have been covering the very obvious problems that Donald Trump is having. They would have had the experts on to analyze, as we have been doing. They would have been having the serious and tough conversations about whether Trump has what it takes to even run for office, never mind be president again. They haven't been doing it. And we're going to address that bigger picture in a little bit. But you still like to see this occasionally on CNN. Now,

I would even argue CNN doesn't seem as well acquainted with sort of like the biggest glitches and gaffes. I think that's another thing where they're not even really selecting the worst ones. Saudi Arabia and Russia will repeat. But listen, they're doing a little something. So I give them like a two out of 10. At least they are mentioning it. I'll deal with the bigger picture of that a little bit later. It's been very entertaining in a way and troubling to see the evolution of Nikki Haley justifying why she is supporting Donald Trump. Now, I want to preface everything I'm about to say by telling you that Nikki Haley

is disgusted by Trump, hates Trump, doesn't think he should be president deep down. This is my opinion. And I believe it's an opinion based on the things that she has actually said over the last many years until it came time to kiss the ring and endorse Trump. So all of this is a farce for public consumption. Earlier in the week, I played for you a video of Nikki Haley explaining on ABC why she is supporting Donald Trump. And of course, it's weird that she would, given that she said he is just flat out unfit to be president and many other horrible things she said about him. But her argument was essentially that, well, Kamala's bad. It's just just Kamala's bad. And he is the Republican nominee. And I'm a Republican. And it's all about self-preservation. She thinks this gives her a better shot at continuing to have a path to major national politics for the Republican Party.

Maybe she's right. Maybe she's wrong. Well, she appeared on CNBC and there are hosts on CNBC who aren't so good. And there are hosts on CNBC who do a pretty good job. And I think Andrew Ross Sorkin, especially in these sorts of interviews, does a pretty good job. And Nikki Haley's new approach to why we need Trump back, even if you don't like his personality, is that things are just worse since Biden's become president. And Andrew Ross Sorkin correctly points out, you know, certainly not as far as the stock market's concerned. We can't afford four more years. Find me one American that says that they were better the last four years than the ones before it. You can't find it. So let's say most of the people who actually have any stock in this market would tell you that actually.

They would. And by the way, not enough Americans own stock in the market, but that's what I'm saying. Americans would average Americans. If you ask them, they're just trying to make ends meet. Now, of course, there's so much more to this. Inflation has come down to where we want it to be. We actually saw a decline in food prices in August, all time high after all time high in the stock market. Yes, not all Americans own stock. But if you combine all Americans that own stock, all Americans that have a 401k or market

based retirement plan, you start putting together all of these different groups. They're all pretty happy with all time high after all time high job creation, significantly higher than under Trump, meaning many new people found jobs. You can't make this case. And Nikki now is trying to say this isn't about personalities. Yes, I've said some things about Trump personality wise. OK, but things are terrible now and they were better under Trump.

And that's why we need Trump. Nikki Haley also tried justify voting for Trump by claiming that we are technically in World War Three right now. We are not in World War Three right now in the Senate. Now, the question is, Pat Toomey, Dick Cheney, GW, they all have the same story. You know, I I think Kamala Harris is an absolute nightmare, but I can't bring myself to. It's a vote for Kamala Harris. They can't find a scintilla of difference between. It's a binary choice as a Republican.

I guess you honor their decision. I respect it. I think everybody comes. You're going to vote for Trump. I'm thinking about my kids, the future of this next four years and what that means for America. And the end of democracy and a police state and a dictator on day one. Look, we technically we're in World War Three right now. If you look at the fact that Russia has invaded Ukraine, you look at the fact that Hamas has invaded Israel.

You look at China using aggression on Taiwan. You see the fentanyl. OK, so Hamas didn't invade Israel. And fentanyl does not World War three make. We are not in World War three. This is really a reach. But think about this is the wildest, wildest daughter is married to a black guy and their kids, if they have any, are going to be biracial children in America. She wants us to believe. That having a biracial woman president who respects women's bodily autonomy has a perspective on job creation that makes sense and is backed by economists, has an economic plan that makes sense and is supported by even Goldman Sachs, which is no left wing institution, says this

is better for the economy. On what planet can Nikki Haley think about the future for her kids and potentially her grandkids and say they are better off not with the model of a competent and confident biracial woman, first woman president of the United States. But with Donald Trump as president and you all know, Nikki Haley is smart enough that she doesn't really believe that it's disgusting that she's willing to say this stuff, given that she obviously doesn't believe it. Nikki Haley, if she hadn't jumped the shark before, she certainly has now. Yikes. Zypix toothpicks are super discreet. You can use them anytime, anywhere. Smoking and vaping aren't allowed, including flights, sporting events in restaurants. They're available in six different flavors with options of two and three milligrams of nicotine. If you're not a nicotine user, Zypix also offers caffeine and B12 infused toothpicks. Zypix has already helped tens of thousands of customers ditch the

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And what many of you have written to me about is the potential plan to disrupt polling places such that people just aren't able to vote or choose not to vote because of intimidation that's going on. And I want to take this seriously because to some degree, we know that they're planning it. To some degree, they've said we want we want law enforcement. Keep an eye, Trump said. Keep an eye. We need our police officers keeping an eye on people at the polling places suggesting intimidation. We've heard about plans to have election workers challenging voters eligibility and all these different things.

But this is a bigger question. This is a question of straight up disrupting and creating chaos at polling places. So here's sort of like a little outline of how Trump and Trump supporters might try to suppress voting in just a few weeks with civil unrest, like straight up generating chaos. So first and foremost, how would they plan it? We know how they would plan it. It's social media platforms, the encrypted apps, the telegram, the signal straight in, you know, in broad daylight on in the comments sections of Rumble and Truth Central and whatever else. And what they would plan to do is do mass gatherings at key polling locations. They

would focus on battleground states. You might say, oh, but that's not a strategy you can do nationally. They don't need to do it nationally. There's no reason to do this in California. Trump's going to lose California by millions of votes. They would say, here's the five states most likely to determine this election. And those states right now seem like they would be. I mean, listen, certainly Pennsylvania, Georgia, it's looking like North Carolina could be one of those. Arizona, Nevada. If you want to make it six states, you include Wisconsin in there. Right. You can say here's four or five, six states. These are the key states. Let's find the critical polling locations that we know skew left. So you say, all right,

here's my five key states. The rural votes in these states are more Trump leaning. The urban votes in these states are more Democratic leaning. So we will target the urban polling places in these five states. And then you start spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories about voter fraud and rigged elections that justifies the need for being there on Election Day. And then you just start organizing groups of agitators, say, here's the polling stations, here's the states, urban areas, predominantly minority voters, and use rhetoric about we've got to protect the vote.

That's why we're going to be here. So then Election Day comes. They mobilize these groups. If it's legal to carry guns in certain states within certain numbers of feet of the polling places, they go as far as you can legally go. Maybe they go beyond the law, too, but they certainly go as far as you can legally go with the displays of weapons. They create a sense of chaos outside the polling places where they can. They try to blockade or appear to blockade entrances at polling stations, make it difficult for people to get in,

especially during the peak voting hours. This will start generating multiple things. Number one, it will start generating longer and longer lines as the polling places may be understaffed to deal with this. Number two, they begin to generate chaos as police start being called out and the presence of police and crowds start to create a sort of chaotic, disrupted effect for people who show up and want to vote. And then and this is where it can get more risky. You start provoking civil unrest. You stage confrontations maybe with law enforcement or election officials and try to provoke a response that maybe get some of these polling places shut down. You engage in clashes with counter protesters or if there's no counter

protesters with voters themselves to make people say, do I want to vote? It looks like this could get violent. I'm getting scared off. Is it safe here? I'm just not sure. And then maybe you even utilize the large gatherings to try to overwhelm the polling places. And maybe some of them say we've got a temporarily shut down. Now, all of this is always based on a sort of undergirding of misinformation. You use disinformation campaigns in advance. And while this is going on, you say, hey, these polling places are under attack. Don't go. Causes confusion. People are working. They're planning to vote between getting out of work at 445 and picking up their kids at 515. Oh, I don't know. I've heard it's dangerous. Maybe I don't go any even remotely chaotic or violent incident. You amplify it, which further creates unrest and creates the need for more armed police

response. And in the middle of all of it, you start pushing news. We have learned of large scale election fraud. They are stealing the entire thing. Get out there and help us physically intervene to stop the fraud. And if they're smart, which, you know, smart, clever, I don't know the right word. If they're prepared, they simultaneously have lawyers ready with lawsuits or legal maneuvers to say operations at these polling places are illegal. By the way, that they will argue the chaos they caused now means the polling place must be shut down or we can't guarantee the integrity of the ballots.

They must be discounted or whatever. And then you just keep it going after Election Day for as long as you can. Now, do I think that this is likely the full plan I just outlined? I don't think is actually likely. At the same time, they've admitted that some elements of this they plan to do lawyers ready for spurious legal arguments they have. So check that they have the desire to see voters intimidated either by law enforcement or protesters or adversarial election workers that they have. We know they have that. What we don't know is whether the plan, as I just outlined, it is something that they're

really thinking about. But a dozen or so of you have written to me saying it's what you're worried about. And I understand the concern. Donald Trump is 78 years old and barely coherent. But there is only a fraction, a fraction of the discussion in corporate media of Trump's incoherence as there was compared to Joe Biden after the June 27th debate. This is a story we've been following for a very long time at this point. USA Today has a nice article about it by Rex Hupke. The article is called Trump is 78 and

barely coherent. Where's everyone who questioned Biden's age and fitness? Where are the headlines screaming deranged old man pedals nonsense while threatening violent deportation of immigrants? And Rex goes through in this article and kind of summarizes just recently Trump's incoherence. His answer here about how will you bring down the cost of child care, which was a verbal inkblot, just nonsense. And the argument that Rex makes, and it's an accurate argument and it's a good one, is that Donald Trump's bizarre rants get sanitized, whereas Biden got no special treatment. And that's absolutely correct. It is absolutely, completely and totally obvious that that's what's happening. We've talked about the term saying washing. Trump gives a completely disjointed response and it's summarized as Trump spoke passionately.

Really? Not necessarily how I would summarize it. So what really needs to be understood here is that there is really no way to maintain even a semblance of Trump as a real candidate unless you completely ignore the incoherence and the obvious decline. How many mental health and medical professionals have we now had analyzing what's happening to Trump from a mental health standpoint, from a neurological standpoint, from a dementia, Alzheimer's standpoint, from a cult standpoint, from an ego narcissism standpoint, and yet partially assisted by the corporate media's refusal, dare I say, to say this guy

doesn't make any sense. Is this guy stable? He seems worse than Biden on most days. That is part of why this continues to happen. Now you'll occasionally hear, you know, Jessica Tarlov on Fox News will say, did you guys see that ran? That didn't make any sense. Trump talks about needing I.D. to buy bread. He talks about the president is Obama or he's running against Obama or he's running against Hillary or he defeated Obama or whatever.

You occasionally see it. But if this was being handled responsibly and I would say even just objectively by corporate media, we would have been seeing stories about Trump's decline dating back years rather than the occasional. He was a little bit jumbled, a little bit jumbled here and there. And then one other thing I want to say about this, if you want to talk about double standards, Trump said he doesn't want your vote in an election if you voted for Nikki Haley or if you're Jewish and you're thinking voting Democrat, large swath of voters that he goes, don't don't give a damn, don't need him, don't want him. Imagine if Kamala Harris had done that,

it would be months of coverage in corporate media, but almost nothing when it's Trump that says it. Imagine if a Democrat ran for president convicted of 34 felonies, owing tens of millions of dollars for defaming his sexual assault victim, as Trump does, owing money for business and tax fraud, facing all sorts of other charges, which through reasons we don't really know, but they include judges you've selected helping you out, are getting the cases pushed off beyond the election. Imagine if a Democrat were running with that record, what we would be seeing in corporate media. Think what happened when Barack Obama wore

a tan suit. So as we talked about with Tristan Snell earlier this week, the the justice system seems weaponized in favor of Donald Trump. The corporate media infrastructure seems weaponized in favor of Donald Trump. And so the only solution I spoke with Mark Elias about it, spoke about it with Brian Tyler Cohen and Tyler Brian Cohen and Tyler Cohen as well. A lot. Everybody's been speaking to me about it. We need a victory so large that they can't figure out a way to steal it.

And we put Trump in the dustbin of history. That's what what needs to happen with Trump. It's what needs to happen with MAGA. Will it happen? Well, we'll know in just a few weeks that I've got good news and bad news, and they're both the same. We'll know the answer in just a few weeks. I want to tell you about an important part of my morning routine. AG1, one of our sponsors, before I have my cappuccino, I put just one scoop of AG1 in a glass of water. Every morning I get my vitamins, my minerals, my pre and probiotics and more just filling the nutritional gaps supporting my gut. AG1 contains prebiotics, probiotics and gut supporting ingredients just to support digestion, reduce bloating.

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comments, replies, smoke signals, telegrams and snail mail delivered to us by our audience. The best place to write to is info at David Pakman dot com. But YouTube comments, tick tock replies, et cetera, will often be featured. We start today with one of these classic incoherent messages, just a little palate cleanser or whatever the opposite of a palate cleanser is. Jim wrote in. I don't even know what this guy's talking about. Jim says, I think the total of insults towards Trump outnumbers and outweigh any amount of Trump insults of this disabled man. Hitler, racist, fat, narcissist, Russian asset. Let's see you so brave, so principled. Parkman withstand the slings and arrows of all you libtards talking heads or from

anyone when directed to you. You would wilt like a little whiny girl. Have a nice day. I don't know. I don't know. I think this, you know, it's funny when Jim refers refers to Trump insulting a disabled man. Trump has insulted so many people with disabilities that I don't know who Jim is referring to. And part of me wonders whether Jim is arguing that Biden is the disabled guy that Trump is insulting. Complete and total incoherence. But here's what I really want people to think about. Close your eyes and imagine Jim putting down his phone after sending me this message. I'm going to do it to Jim puts down his phone after sending me this message and then he turns around and he gets back to his desk and he picks up the phone and he says, Jim's accounting services, how can I help you? Imagine that Jim is your CPA or your kids middle school teacher or whatever. The the point here is these people are in our society. They at least theoretically might be providing you some kind of service or your kids,

if you can imagine. That's extraordinarily terrifying. And also many of them vote, which is just a reminder as to why we need to vote in November as well. Ryan DeGrave commented on YouTube. Tim Midwest Giga Chad Walls is an excellent choice and the right choice. He's great on TV. He appeals to basically everyone who's not a psychopath. He's literate and well-spoken, yet sounds like a normal person, is relatable and gives those of us interested in a better future hope that the party might

finally be leaning to the left again instead of pandering to the right. I agree completely with Ryan about many of the great reasons why Tim Walz is a fantastic choice. But with regard to the leaning left versus right, there are some people angry a little bit with some of the polling we've been doing. We did another poll on the YouTube channel. One hundred and sixty thousand of you voted. The question was Kamala Harris recently said she would appoint a Republican to her cabinet if elected. Do you agree she should? Seventy four percent of my audience said, yes, Kamala should appoint a Republican to

her cabinet. Only 26 percent of you said no. The subreddits and the Twitter trolls love taking screenshots of these polls and saying, look at how Pacman or Parkman, as they usually misspell it, look at how Pacman's audience is so right wing. Seventy four percent of them want a Republican in Harris's cabinet. Can you imagine? And I just want to remind everybody that my audience is to my left. What you are seeing reflected in these polls is a practical understanding of how politics works. And I see nothing wrong with Kamala Harris selecting nominally a Republican, a moderate Republican to a position that is of less consequence. I don't want to rank

cabinet members. OK, it's not about you're better or worse, but I'm just saying not every cabinet position is as prominent. Right. I don't see anything wrong with putting a Republican with whom you're basically roughly on the same page with regard to the specific siloed area they would be working on to show I'm bipartisan. I can work with Republicans. There are reasonable Republicans. It's not just we hate all of these people. I think there is a lot of political value in that. And that's what my audience is recognizing. It's not, oh, David, your audience is so right wing. It's this is strategy. This is a pragmatic approach to politics. OK, Sherry Sanchez wrote, I'll vote for the pair that are rooting for the success of this country, not the pair actively rooting for us to fail for their benefit.

Tough to sum up the contrast between Harris Walls and Trump Vance better than that. You tune in to a Trump or Vance rally and it's this country has gone to hell. 1929 style crash. If Kamala Harris wins, it's communism. It's Marxism. The gender affirming surgeons have taken over our schools and now kids are getting trans surgery in school, is the way Trump put it. It's all terrible. The country used to be great.

It's no longer great. Here's all the things I'm going to do. And it's going to be a bloody removal of undocumented immigrants. Wow. That's like a really scary vision. Even if Trump gets to do the things he wants to do, it sounds terrible. On the other hand, Harris Walls says, hey, you know what? We have political differences, but there are things we can all agree upon. We have some basic institutions and a framework of democracy that we must defend. And we can disagree about the top tax rate. We can disagree about to what degree should states determine completely what the educational programs in public schools should be or we can we can have disagreements. But we have a shared vision

that maintains the country as a democratic country with the parameters and guardrails that were meant to be in place based on how the Constitution and Bill of Rights were set up. And here's 10 ideas about how to make things better. We're going to make things better for those who have children but struggle to pay. We're going to make things better for those who are looking for factory jobs. We're going to make things better for those who have an idea that they want to do, but they don't want to lose health care at the job that they hate. OK, it's it couldn't be a more different vision. And Sherry really accurately outlines that now completely different scenario. Jay Scorpion says, ass ho, vote Trump. OK, so like, yeah, that's a different vision. That's a different vision of what to do.

Greg Black wrote in on Facebook and says, Pac Punk, do you believe your own bullshit? I sure hope so, because nobody can. O.W. space body, K.N.O.W. space body. Nobody else does. She needs to win Pennsylvania and it's tied right now. And she got no bump after the DNC. Well, listen, insults aside, it is true that Pennsylvania is tied right now. As I've said, it's going to be close. I don't know how Pennsylvania being tied contradicts anything I've said. It is not true that Kamala Harris got no bump from the DNC. She got about six tenths of a point. But Trump seems to have taken momentum back. That's true also. So the fact that Greg identifies correctly that this is potentially going to be a very close race doesn't really make the non sequitur insults anything that I'm super impressed by.

Here's another comment from YouTube not running for president, running from prison, relating to Donald Trump. Yeah, there are. Many who write in and say, David, what Trump is doing is very transparent. He sees becoming president as the best way to stay out of prison, especially now with his sentencing delayed until after the election. And I don't disagree with you. The only part that raises a little bit of a red flag for me is if Trump really sees becoming president as the way to stay out of prison, you'd think he'd be campaigning a little more strongly. He wouldn't be doing just one rally a week or less if he saw that the way to maintain his freedom was to become president of the United States. That's the one

part of it that sounds a little bit strange to me. OK, here's a very interesting comment from YouTube. I'm a gun owner. I love my guns. I love the Second Amendment, but I don't love Trump. The future of this country is much more important to me, which is why I'm voting for Harris 2024. We're not going back. I think he means we're not going back. Yeah, listen, I have friends who are very moderate. Yeah, they do mostly vote for Democrats nationally, but often vote for Republicans at the state level. And they they own guns. They are socially on the left ish, but not extremely so.

They have concerns about a lot of the cultural stuff, but they are saying to me the same thing. They are saying we have a Second Amendment. Kamala Harris isn't going to take my guns. She's not trying to. And this is about more than what you sometimes see made the issues on social media. And a very practical question is, OK, if there's a bunch of these folks in Tennessee, well, Kamala Harris is not going to win Tennessee. But if there's enough of these folks in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, the election could very well hinge on it. So we're all going to be paying very close attention to those sorts

of folks. Finally, we did a poll. Did Joe Biden do the right thing by getting out of this race? Two hundred and seventeen thousand of you voted. Fifty five percent wanted Biden to drop out and are glad that he did. Forty one percent didn't want Biden to drop out, but now are glad that he did. Ninety six percent of my audience, we never see such a united front on anything. Ninety six percent of my audience believes that it was the right decision for Joe Biden to drop out. That's very optimistic when it comes to can we believe in the newfound energy behind Kamala Harris or is it just window dressing? The fact that 96 percent of the audience is saying, oh, no, no, no. Whether I thought so or not at the start, I have come to believe it was right for Biden to drop out

that votes bodes very well for people actually getting out to vote for Kamala Harris, hopefully in the states that are going to make a difference. All right. We've got a fantastic program on the bonus show for you. Make sure you are signed up at join Pacman dot com. Please remember to preorder my forthcoming nonfiction book, The Echo Machine. I will have updated order numbers for you on Monday. You can order the book at David Pakman dot com slash Echo Amazon Bookshop dot org Barnes and Noble. It is now available for preorder. It should be at every local bookstore. If you live next to, you know, Sam's books in Milwaukee or Samantha's books in Austin, Texas. Those are made up. You should now be able to call up any bookstore and say, I want to order David Pakman's

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