The David Pakman Show - 9/16/24: Trump survives another one, Vance admits he made it up

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

-- On the Show: -- Donald Trump survives another assassination attempt, this time from 58-year-old former Trump voter Ryan Wesley Routh -- While Joe Biden and Kamala Harris' reactions to the seco...nd failed assassination attempt of Donald Trump are quite sane, Elon Musk's reaction was very much the opposite -- Donald Trump self-destructs when asks how tariffs work, reminding us about his economic incompetence -- Jill Stein collapses under basic questioning from Angela Rye on a recent episode of The Breakfast Club -- A sick-looking and confused Donald Trump holds one of the strangest press conferences we've seen -- A turbo-glitching Donald Trump holds a rally in Las Vegas, Nevada, at which he misgenders Latin music star Nicky Jam as being a "hot" woman and generally falls apart -- A slurring Trump holds a wildly low energy rally in Tucson, Arizona at which he claims to have "won" the debate against Kamala Harris -- JD Vance admits he "created" the story about migrants eating cats and dogs during a disgusting interview with CNN's Dana Bash -- Donald Trump suffers a total meltdown after Taylor Swift endorses Kamala Harris, posting to Truth Social "I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT" -- On the Bonus Show: Trump plans to visit Springfield Ohio after baseless immigrant claims, Laura Loomer's cozy relationship with Donald Trump, Trump lashes out at NASDAQ over trading half of Truth Social, much more... 🚚 ShipStation: Use code PAKMAN for 60-day FREE trial at https://shipstation.com 💪 Alpha Progression: Get 20% OFF your 1st year or month at https://alphaprogression.com/pakman 👕 Sponsored by Printful: Build and grow your business at https://davidpakman.com/printful ☕ Beam melatonin hot cocoa: Use code PAKMAN for up to 40% OFF at https://shopbeam.com/pakman 🥄 Use code PAKMAN for $5 off Magic Spoon at https://magicspoon.com/pakman 🪒 Henson Shaving: Use code PAKMAN for FREE blades at https://hensonshaving.com/pakman -- Become a Member: https://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/davidpakmanshow -- TDPS Subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/thedavidpakmanshow -- Pakman Discord: https://www.davidpakman.com/discord -- David on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave a Voicemail: (219)-2DAVIDP

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Starting point is 00:00:00 . Well, welcome, everybody. It happened again. A former Trump supporter took a gun to one of Trump's golf courses with the intention of assassinating the former president. This time he did not, it is believed, get any shots off, was shot at, fled the scene and was ultimately apprehended and arrested. Let's start with the story about what happened. A 58 year old named Ryan Wesley Ruth or Routh was hanging around a couple of holes ahead of where Donald Trump was playing at
Starting point is 00:00:47 his West Palm Beach Golf Club yesterday. Secret Service agents, as I guess is protocol, they move three to five hundred yards ahead of Trump, which is a couple of holes ahead. They saw in the shrubbery the barrel of an AK 47 style rifle. They shot in that direction. This is the best information we have now. The would be shooter. Routh fled and was subsequently apprehended. Donald Trump is safe and announced that he is safe. And now we start with the finger pointing and the blaming, the conspiracy theories and all sorts of other stuff. Those who immediately claim this is obviously a concerted effort from the left to take out Trump in advance of the election because the
Starting point is 00:01:39 left is so afraid that Donald Trump is going to win. Those who say this is a setup by Trump after a completely disastrous debate performance, one might argue the worst debate performance in the history of American debates dating back. I mean, you know, in the modern era, televised era to Richard Nixon's sweaty flu like five o'clock shadow debate against John F. Kennedy. OK, so the idea is it's Trump who set it up to distract from the fact that his debate performance was so bad. We don't have any evidence for any of those things. What we have evidence for right now is that the would be shooter, the would be assassin of Trump supported Donald Trump in 2016.
Starting point is 00:02:21 But then through some combination of radicalization and maybe mental illness and ready access to guns turned on Trump and decided that he wanted to solve a political problem with a gun in 2020. Routh voiced his dissatisfaction by tweeting, quote, Donald Trump, while you were my choice in 2016, I and the world hoped that President Trump would be different and better than the candidate. But we all were greatly disappointment. And it seems you are getting worse and devolving.
Starting point is 00:02:55 You are retarded. I will be glad when you gone. So what we have right now and I understand that the magas are saying the social media trail is fake. This is clearly some far leftist because he supported Ukraine against Russia. Most of the world supports Ukraine against Russia. All of the evidence is this was a Republican who was disillusioned with Trump for not being enough of whatever it was that he had hoped, not an altogether different picture from the other guy who tried to kill Donald Trump. What did Donald Trump say in reaction? Well, he posted to Truth Social, quote,
Starting point is 00:03:39 I would like to thank everyone for your concern and well wishes. It was certainly an interesting day. Most importantly, I want to thank the U.S. Secret Service Sheriff Rick Bradshaw and his office of brave and dedicated patriots and all of law enforcement for the incredible job done today at Trump International in keeping me as the 45th president of the United States and the Republican nominee in the upcoming presidential presidential election safe. The job done was absolutely outstanding. and the Republican nominee in the upcoming presidential presidential election safe. The job done was absolutely outstanding. I am very proud to be an American. So as kind of always seems to be the case in these scenarios, there is never an appetite to talk about the widespread availability and ready access to all sorts of killing machines, AK-47 style rifles,
Starting point is 00:04:26 et cetera, et cetera. That I mean, it's almost like you're not even allowed to talk about that allowed. I don't mean anybody is physically saying do not talk about it. But what I mean is it's not an acceptable part of the discourse to the American right wing, period. Secondly, they immediately want to talk about mental illness. Now you can make the case that anyone willing to even think and go forward in trying to carry out an action like this has some element of mental illness. But that doesn't mean they don't understand that what they are doing is wrong and illegal. And of course, the focus on mental illness often comes from people who who stigmatize mental health problems and don't want to properly fund making it easier and more socially acceptable
Starting point is 00:05:12 for people to deal with those mental health problems. And then, of course, number three, the conspiracy theories. Now, there is one specific thing I want to address as far as that goes. There is the claim being made that the reason this stuff is happening is because Joe Biden, either due to negligence or deliberate malice, is restricting Secret Service's ability to protect Trump by limiting budget or limiting agents or whatever the case may be. This is absolutely not the case. And before people get going on that, here is the press conference that took place where it was confirmed that they actually scaled Trump's security up beyond what would even be normal because of the escalated threat.
Starting point is 00:05:55 President Donald Trump is now second, potentially second attempt on him. Can you just elaborate on how things have changed and what you mean by this. Yes, the the threat level is high. We have increased the the amount of assets that we've supported. So we are we live in danger time. So, yes, they identify that there is a higher threat level. They've escalated resources. Now, the other story, of course, is forgetting for a second about the generically widespread access to firearms. Routh himself, the would be shooter in this case, was convicted in 2002 of possessing a firearm, resisting delaying and obstructing a law
Starting point is 00:06:37 enforcement officer driving without a license and was engaged in a three hour standoff with police. He was pulled over during a traffic stop, put a hand on a gun and then drove to a nearby business barricading himself inside. In 2003, he was sentenced for driving without a license, carrying a concealed weapon and hit and run. In 2010, he was convicted of possessing stolen goods. So as usual, an individual or as often as the case, an individual who is not just a random person with access to guns, it was someone known to and connected to
Starting point is 00:07:13 previous law enforcement incidents. So as always, as always, I reject completely any attempts of these kinds, this kind violent. And I want to beat Trump at the ballot box. Let's now look at some of the reactions to what happened yesterday. And you will see that some are sane and some are not so sane. We're going to look at three reactions to the second would be assassination attempt against Donald Trump. We'll see what President Joe Biden said. We'll see what Vice President Kamala Harris said. And then we will see what Elon Musk said. Two of the reactions were saying one, not so much. President Biden immediately issuing a statement indicating there is no place for political violence after another individual, this time
Starting point is 00:08:06 a 58 year old former Trump voter, was found in the shrubs at Trump's golf club with an AK 47 style rifle. President Biden praised law enforcement. He said it appears to be an attempted assassination. He said, I commend the work of the Secret Service and their law enforcement partners for their vigilance and their efforts to keep the former president and those around him safe. I'm relieved the former president is unharmed. There's an active investigation into the incident. As I've said many times, there is no place for political violence or any violence ever in our country. And I have directed my team to continue to ensure that Secret Service has
Starting point is 00:08:45 every resource capability and protective measure necessary to ensure the former president's continued safety. That's a sane reaction. You denounce violence regardless of the political leanings of the target of the violence. Vice President Kamala Harris, potentially the next president of the United States, expresses relief that Donald Trump is safe. The Hill reports that she said, quote, I have been briefed on reports of gunshots fired near former President Trump and his property in Florida, and I am glad he is safe. Violence has no place in America.
Starting point is 00:09:21 That is a very clear and sane reaction. On the other hand, Elon Musk reacted by saying no one is even trying to assassinate Biden slash Kamala, followed by the thinking face emoji. He then deleted that tweet and he explained it was yet another one of these jokes that nobody understood, posting two additional explanatory tweets saying, quote, Well, one lesson I've learned is that just because I say something to a group and they laugh doesn't mean it's going to be all that hilarious as a post on X. I guess Elon must have said that to a group of people in person and they all laughed, which, as we know, if you're a billionaire and you have people around you, they'll laugh at almost anything you say because they're sucking up to you anyway. So he said when I posted it to X, it didn't get as good of a reaction. And then again, posting to Twitter, quote, turns out that jokes are way less funny if people don't know the context and the delivery is plain text.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So clearly blaming the vagaries of communicating jokes and sarcasm on social media, absent context and tone or something like that. And of course, immediately correctly identified as, hey, you know what? You might end up inciting violence. You might end up actually generating such attempts against Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Tim Walz, et cetera. By making this kind of post, he has an insanely large audience and a completely irresponsible thing to say. So there were the reactions to saying one not so sane to the second failed assassination of Donald Trump. You know, it's it's hard to believe. And yet it's not that today we are in September of twenty twenty four. We're nearly a decade into this Trumpian
Starting point is 00:11:26 fiasco. Donald Trump still does not understand how tariffs work. The there was a an interview done of Trump, and we're going to look at a couple of clips from it. And Trump was asked a pretty good question by the reporter, which is, you know, these tariffs that you say you want to put in place, aren't they just going to be passed along? Therefore, it's just the American companies that suffer. The interviewer, who looks almost twice the size of Trump, it's pretty remarkable, asked a very good question. And Trump gives a mess of an answer, completely illiterate economically. Listen to this. Those tariffs, won't they pass those along? If they passed a tax on golf memberships, you would probably at your resorts pass that along to your members, right? You wouldn't have just absorbed it. It sort of depends on the market.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Not necessarily. You look like you might be a golfer, actually. But not really necessarily. Not a good one, sir. Not a good one. There aren't too many good ones around, I'll tell you. But no, not really. I think that you're going to find,
Starting point is 00:12:37 and I think when we do it, and different countries also will be tariffed differently. You know, there are some that make tremendous margins on us. We have countries, I won't go into it now, but we have countries that are just just as a little interjection. If you're confused, it's because this doesn't make any sense. Charging us 200 percent and 250 and 300 percent. And we charge them nothing. And it's insane. And you just can't do it. And it's really not sustainable. It's not sustainable. There are certain countries that I mean, I'd rather not mention them now
Starting point is 00:13:10 because I'll be mentioning them if and when we win. But they're going to have to pay up and it's not going to have inflationary. If anything, it's going to go the opposite. We're going to be paying off debt because we have too much debt. OK, that is a mess of an answer. It's it's just like it's almost like a Jackson Pollock painting where you're just throwing stuff on the canvas, except you're actually pleased with the way the Pollock painting comes out, whereas this is just a completely abortive, economically illiterate mess. He still has no idea how tariffs work. And he actually has the it's not even audacity. It's more like the ignorance to suggest that actually the tariffs that he's going to place
Starting point is 00:13:55 on people are going to bring down prices of goods in the United States. Every single economic analysis of Trump's tariff plan says it's just going to generate inflation in the United States. Every single economic analysis of Trump's tariff plan says it's just going to generate inflation in the United States. Trump criticizing Biden inflation, even though it's come down dramatically and has been in a sustained way lower than that of other Western developed nations. His plan actually would generate more inflation. Now, there's a couple of reasons that you might use tariffs as a tool if they're well calibrated and well thought out. One of them is by putting tariffs, for example, on a Chinese good, you would encourage American companies that need that good
Starting point is 00:14:32 to either go and get it from a different country to avoid the tariffs, therefore hurting China economically, which might be your goal. Or you would encourage the American company to get it domestically, get that good domestically, which is a fine idea. The problem with that idea, there's there's two or three different problems. Number one, from a practical perspective, it can take years, if not decades, to realign and restructure supply chains such that some of the things we've been getting from China for 40 years, we can now manufacture in the United States. So in the short and even medium term, you're just costing money to American companies which they pass on to the consumers. The second sort of problem with the idea of doing this, in addition to it takes time to realign those supply chains, is that
Starting point is 00:15:20 it will still cost more even when manufactured in the United States. Now, you could say I'm fine with that. I'm fine with things costing more to manufacture domestically because I think it's good for the country. Totally legitimate position to take. The problem is that and this is not a Republican or Democratic thing. For decades, our elected officials have decided implicitly that we would rather the cheap stuff from China. We, of course, could make could we might not necessarily be best suited, but we could make the things we get from China in the United States. But everything would cost way more. And Americans would say, wait a second, I don't have more to pay for this stuff. I don't want to pay more for some of this Chinese stuff. So at the consumer level, Americans, even though we say, oh, what about bringing the jobs home?
Starting point is 00:16:09 Sounds good. We don't actually want to pay the prices that that would require. So Trump, obviously clueless here, altogether clueless. But it's also important to remember that even if he weren't clueless, the idea is very much not in line with what Americans and our elected officials have decided we're going to do, which is we want to keep the prices down by going offshore. Now, Trump was also asked during this very weird interview, what would you say to an anti Trump Republican? And there are many of them.
Starting point is 00:16:38 What would you say to an anti Trump Republican to get them to vote for you? Trump brings up China. It's really weird. One last question, Mr. President. I know you have to go. If there was a Republican for Harris here in the room with us, what would you tell that person in terms of persuading them to vote for you as opposed to vote for Harris? I probably wouldn't tell him anything because usually it would be maybe a personality problem. Maybe they don't like the way I was tough on China. You know, a lot of them don't want me to be tough on China. A lot of them don't want me to be tough on anybody because they're taken care of by people. You saw that. You saw that with Biden. He gets money from so
Starting point is 00:17:14 many. His family gets money from so many different countries. And a lot of it's that. But for every one they have, I have many. I have so many that have left the Democrats and they've come here. I mean, the governor of West Virginia, fantastic man and a big Jim, I call him. He left the Democrats and he became a Republican. And now he's going to win the election. He's going to win very easily. So we have a lot of them, too.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Yeah, not really an answer, of course. But it should be noted that while President Trump received from businesses, received millions of dollars from China. I don't know that that's really a concern with Kamala Harris. So a bizarre interview. And it was a really, really bad weekend for Donald Trump. We're going to take a break. Then I'll tell you more about it.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Also, not a particularly good week for Jill Stein, not someone I typically talk about on the show, but I do want to talk about her a little bit. So make sure you're subscribed to the YouTube channel, pushing forward to three million YouTube subscribers. We will take the quickest of breaks and continue. The world keeps getting smarter. Your e-commerce business should as well. Whether you're looking for incredible efficiency or your business has outgrown your old shipping solutions, our sponsor ShipStation helps you take the next step. ShipStation helps you achieve exceptional shipping efficiency with a robust all in one order fulfillment system that integrates with over 180 of the most popular e-commerce platforms,
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Starting point is 00:22:45 surprise to my audience that I have not seen Jill Stein as a serious person for a very long time. In fact, Jill Stein may be specifically to blame or credit for numerous Republican wins. I'll give you the math of that in a moment. There is a small slice of my audience, sort of like happened with Tulsi Gabbard, sort of like has happened to some with Jimmy Dore, where they have come to believe that the place where real left wing values are represented and that the sorts of people that actually have the best interests of the country in mind are people like Jill Stein. Now, I happen not to believe that.
Starting point is 00:23:28 I think she is not only running unserious campaigns, I think she's fundamentally an unserious person. And Angela Rye really exposed that. Take a look at the first minute or so of the interview. The only thing that I would say to you is I think it's very dangerous rhetoric to say there are two sides of the same coin. I do think it's important for us to understand.
Starting point is 00:23:53 I think it's dangerous to all of us, actually. I don't have that privilege. We disagree. I understand. We also agree on a lot, but here's one thing I think we can agree on. Either you win or lose this election, there's really no in-between. Dr. Stein, in 2002, you ran for governor of Massachusetts and you lost. In 2004, you ran for state representative in Massachusetts and you lost.
Starting point is 00:24:12 In 2006, you ran for secretary of the Commonwealth. You also lost. In 2010, you ran for governor again, this time against the first black governor in Massachusetts, Deval Patrick. You lost. In 2012, you ran against this country's first black president and you got just less than one half of 1% of total votes cast. In 2016, you ran against Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, losing significantly with 1.4 million votes cast for you, but zero electoral college votes,
Starting point is 00:24:44 which I agree with y'all, needs to be abolished. But 136 million people voted, and you lost that election as well. So I want to know what the pathway to victory is for you in 2024. It can't just be... Now, I'd like to provide a different... Shut your mouth.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Watch your fucking mouth, y'all. I want to provide... And I want to... And also, can I respond, please? Can I respond? Can I respond? I would like to respond. This is the framing of the empire and the oligarchy and white supremacy and colonialism, which wants you to feel that resistance is futile. There you go. She immediately says what Angela Rye just laid out is the view of white supremacy and
Starting point is 00:25:32 colonialism and oligarchy and empire. Those are meaningless buzzwords that Jill Stein and the movement around her. And this is why I'm not a Green Party guy, because they love doing this stuff. They will weaponize those talking points against you, no matter who you are and no matter what you say, if you express opposition to what they're doing and point out their political incompetence. Jill Stein telling Angela Rye that she's parroting white supremacist talking points, by the way, if you're not watching Angela Rai that she's parroting white supremacist talking points. By the way, if you're not watching, Angela Rai is black because she pointed out you've never won anything.
Starting point is 00:26:12 You've just you've never won anything. And I don't understand your argument for why you should be president. It's a completely reasonable thing to say. This is a classic example of a progressive woman who is and I. So a white progressive woman, although Jill Stein is Jewish, which white, you know, there are people who say Jews aren't white and are white. But let's just call it she's a white presenting progressive woman. She weaponized race in a political disagreement.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Now, you all know this has happened to me. This has happened to me as a political disagreement. Now, you all know this has happened to me. This has happened to me as a Jewish person. This has happened to me as a Hispanic immigrant from Argentina. I guess I'm white Hispanic. I don't know. Depends who you ask. Depends in what way they want to assail my character and attack my character. OK. This is the worst of the worst of the supposed progressive left. Now, you all know I'm a progressive, but I don't do the identity politics stuff. This is not a show where I attack people for your your being oligarchical, your being colonial or any of that stuff. And it's particularly funny that Jill Stein says Angela Rye is a puppet of the oligarchy when Jill Stein appears to be a puppet
Starting point is 00:27:26 of the oligarchy. Here is a picture of Jill Stein sitting at a table with Putin at an event filled with oligarchs, buddy, buddy, rubbing elbows with oligarchs. Now, she's also Jill Stein. She happens to be completely incompetent. And this is like, you know, to add insult to injury. She was asked how many members of the House of Representatives are there. She was like, I don't know, 600 on Capitol Hill is very difficult to get what you're trying to achieve. So just for example, just Jill can talk about what you can do just from the executive. Yes, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Thank you. Just for an example, I'd love to know how many members, how many voting members in the United States House of Representatives? So we have been blocked. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Democrats throw us off the ballot. They interfere. They put spies and infiltrators on our campaign. How many voting members?
Starting point is 00:28:20 Compare us. No, no, no, no, no, no. Answer the question. How many voting members in the United States House of Representatives, Republican, Democrat and independent? How many total? How many total are there? What is it? Six hundred some. No, no. It's four hundred and thirty five. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. It is hard to think of a less serious person in a less serious campaign. And and to be frank, I would go go with Marianne Williamson in a second over Jill Stein. I mean, you all you all know that I'm not a Marianne Williamson guy. But when I look at if you say I need an alternative on the left to what's in the Democratic Party from the top, you know, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, whatever, I would go with Marianne Williamson in
Starting point is 00:29:05 a second over Jill Stein. Marianne is way more genuine in her intentions. Marianne is way more knowledgeable and Marianne is way more competent. Now, I've said before, I still think when the option was Biden versus Marianne in 2020, I still thought Biden was the better option. But Jill Stein doesn't even seem to know the damage and the chaos that follows her. And by the way, I don't think it's crazy to mention that in 2016, Jill Stein, you remember how small the margins were in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan, which turned the election from Hillary to Trump in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan. Jill Stein got very few votes, but just slightly more than the margin of victory for Trump. And one could argue that without Jill Stein, we would have had President Hillary Clinton and we would have Roe v. Wade
Starting point is 00:29:57 right now. And we're supposed to believe that Jill Stein is the one who really has the best interests of the left at heart. So I think Angela Rye did a great job. Come on, give to David. You're supporting Angela Rye because she's a tool of the Democratic Party, which pays you. I've never been a Democrat. I don't get any money from the Democratic Party. I think Angela Rye pointed out the sad and incompetent nature of Jill Stein and her perpetual and perennial losing campaigns. A very sick looking Donald Trump appeared visibly confused at a really weird press conference that he did in California. Now, the topic of Laura Loomer has started to become a problem for Donald Trump. There are rumors that Trump, of course, is strange from Melania, is in a sexual that's
Starting point is 00:30:48 the way I heard it said it's weird relationship with Laura Loomer. Trump increasingly being asked about her and just kind of acts confused whether he is confused. Let's see if we can figure it out. Republican colleagues and allies who are concerned about your close relationship with Laura Loomer. Well, I don't know what they would say. Laura's been a supporter of mine, just like a lot of people are supporters. And she's been a supporter of mine. She speaks very positively of the campaign. I'm not sure why you asked that question, but Laura is a supporter. I don't control Laura. Laura has to say what
Starting point is 00:31:25 she wants. She's a she's a free spirit. Well, I don't know. I mean, look, I can't tell Laura what to do. Laura is a supporter. I have a lot of supporters. It's funny because he tells everybody what to do, even his supporters. But so I don't know what exactly you're referring to. That's OK. Yeah, please. I just don't know. Laura's a supporter. I don't know how much is she a supporter. Kitty Kitty, I would like for him to clarify. Is Laura a supporter?
Starting point is 00:31:56 He does seem kind of nervous about the answer. I don't know that it's proof that he is engaged in a romantic relationship with Laura Loomer, but there will be there will be time for that. But remember the the man of the evangelical Christians, right? Number of divorces, number of affairs, porn stars potentially engaged right now in an extramarital relationship. Trump asked during another element of this stop, do you denounce the bomb threats in Springfield? Now, here's what's going on. After Donald Trump said during last week's debate, they're eating the cats, they're eating the dogs. After he said that, all sorts of bomb
Starting point is 00:32:31 threats and threats of different kinds started pouring into Springfield, Ohio. Again, Trump playing confused. I don't know. I don't know anything about it. Do you denounce the bomb threats in Springfield, Ohio? I don't know what happened with the bomb threats. I know that it's been taken over by illegal migrants. That's a terrible thing that happened. Springfield was this beautiful town and now they're going through hell. It's a sad thing.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Not going to happen with me, I can tell you right now. So I assume Trump's lying about not knowing anything about it. I assume Trump now knows that the individuals he claims are eating dogs and cats are not illegal migrants. And I assume he knows at this point that terrible things haven't been happening at the hands of this group of Haitians who are not illegal migrants. But he is stoking more terror. That's what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:33:26 And I can only imagine that the chaos in Springfield is going to continue. Thanks to Donald Trump. At another moment during this press conference, a reporter said to Trump, you know, all of this stuff has been debunked, but yet they're getting bomb threats. And then Trump basically just changes topic and talks about the board. The mayor of Springfield, Ohio, the police chief, the Republican governor of all debunked this story about people eating pets. And now there are bomb threats at schools and kids being evacuated.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Why do you still spread? No, no, no. Still, the real threat is what's happening at our border, because you have thousands of people being killed by illegal migrants coming in and also dying. You have women dying as they come up. They're coming up in large groups. We call it a caravan. I think I came up with that name, but it's really what it is.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Ten thousand, fifteen thousand, twenty. So Trump completely changing the subject altogether. He really doesn't want to talk about the cats and dogs fiasco. And then finally, just as a sign of the delusional nature of this guy, Trump said if the votes were counted honestly in California, he would win California, which I know we're also desensitized to this sort of thing. Trump loses California every time by millions of votes. And the idea that if the counters were doing their job right, Trump would win California.
Starting point is 00:34:49 It's arguably crazier than the cats and dogs. You have a very dishonest system over here. If I ran with an honest vote counter in California, I would win California. But the votes are not counted. Honestly, it's a very dishonest system that you have. Yeah. Of course, the real reason Trump loses California is California is overwhelmingly filled with Democrats and not Republicans.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And it goes back decades that Republicans don't win California. But no, it always has to be special. I would be the winner here and in Minnesota and in New York and in New Jersey. It seems that as far as Trump's concerned, if the votes were counted correctly, he'd win every state other than maybe Delaware, because Joe Biden's from Delaware, delusional and the cult around him just nods and they go, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that's the way it is. So let's take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Make sure you've preordered my forthcoming book, The Echo Machine at David Pakman dot com slash echo. I don't know how many of you are familiar with the Latin music star Nicky Jam. I actually used to sort of be a fan of Nicky Jams. Wild, wild stuff involving Nicky and Trump in Las Vegas. If you run a business or organization and want to get your brand out there or even just have your own DIY project, like maybe helping a political candidate spread their message, Printful is the perfect way to do it. Our sponsor, Printful, is the world's number one on demand print and fulfillment service. Printful empowers your business or personal projects by giving you a huge range of high quality products, easy to use design tools and seamless integration
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Starting point is 00:39:22 There is a Latin music superstar, Nicky Jam, who I admit I kind of am a fan of Nicky's music, although now I'm having to sort of say what the hell is going on here. Trump, I guess, was told that Nicky was in the audience and says that she is super hot. Then a dude with face tattoos comes up, comes up onto the stage. OK, take a listen to the Latin music superstar, Nicky Jam. You know, Nicky, she's hot. She is super hot. Nicky, where is Nicky?
Starting point is 00:39:59 Thank you, Nicky. Great to be having you here. Now you have to get. Oh, look. I'm glad he came up. There you go. Trump going, whoa, you are super hot. I love the I love the face tattoos.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And then Nikki explaining, including in Spanish, why he is supporting Donald Trump. I'm by South Dakota. I know in what I saw now. including in Spanish, why he is supporting Donald Trump. So his reasoning for for supporting Trump is four years have gone by and nothing's happened, I guess, suggesting Biden didn't get the things done that were on Nikki's political agenda. This is the time. Let's make America great again. And then he said, we need Trump. We absolutely we really, really need Trump. So a wild misgendering in Las Vegas and continued glitching and stumbling. Trump talking about SNCC.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Now you be saying SNCC. What are you talking about? Is that like from Nickelodeon when we were growing up? No, no, no. The failing New York Times today reports this vicious Venezuela prison gang is, quote, SNCC. It sneaked. There you go. SNCC, SNCC with the shoulder twitch.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Very, very strange stuff. Trump again suggesting that Kamala Harris got the questions in advance for the debate. Did she get the questions? So I hear she got the questions and I also heard she had something in the year, a little something in the year. No Kamala, do this. Say it this way. Kamala. OK, be Kamala Harris.
Starting point is 00:41:51 One of the reason I love that he says she got the questions in advance is everybody had the damn questions. Everybody knew, hey, you know what? Ukraine's going to come up. Abortion's going to come up. Abortion's going to come up. The believability of the results are voting. Integrity is going to come up. They all had the questions.
Starting point is 00:42:12 They all had the questions. She actually prepared in a way that made sense rather than Trump preparing for things that didn't happen or going off script or whatever the case may be. And of course, Trump always latches on to the way, you know, he said she had a little a little something in her ear. Kamala Harris had earrings and I think they identified exactly what earrings they are. But someone on Twitter said, oh, they look like these other earrings that contain an earpiece in them or something like that.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Trump addressing his mispronunciation of Kamala's name. And this is as usual, everything has a second layer on where it goes wrong. Some of you may recall that Trump's been calling Kamala Kamala in some of his troth central posts. he seems to misremember that he was actually using the word Kamala. But he was actually calling her Kamala. There's three ways in which Trump's confused. He is with Harris. They know Kamala.
Starting point is 00:43:20 They know Kamala. That was the nickname I used for a while, but I don't use it anymore because everyone thought I was just mispronouncing her name. I was Cam Bob. And he is so feeble, his mind is so gone that he's forgotten. He wasn't calling her Cam Bob. He was calling her Camobla. And of course, the crowd is confused.
Starting point is 00:43:45 The crowd is bored. People are leaving. It's it's all endlessly confusing. We then get to let me just make up lies about the Harris policy platform. And he, of course, says with no evidence that she wants to bring back the military. Anybody like to be drafted in the audience because that's what they're doing. She's already talking about bringing back the military. Anybody like to be drafted in the audience because that's what they're doing. She's already talking about bringing back the draft. She wants to bring back the draft and draft your child and put them in a war that should never have happened. Remember
Starting point is 00:44:14 anybody? Yeah, there is no evidence whatsoever. Kamala Harris has no such plan to draft your kids. And finally, Trump Trump ending on a weird sing song kind of thing. And as usual, we don't know if this is something he's doing on purpose. If he is kind of getting disoriented, you'll see that he's really gripping the lectern very aggressively and just drenched in sweat at this point. We don't know. But he's doing a weird sing song, really weird ending to his speech. Together, we will make America powerful again, make America wealthy again, make America healthy again, make America strong again, make America proud again, make America safe again, make America free again. We will make America great again. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:45:09 He should really do like a poetry slam or something like that. That delivery seems more suited for that. So everything Kamala Harris said about Trump's rallies, absolutely true, filled with lies, crowd bored, Trump boring people living and leaving, living. Yes, they were all living as far as I know and leaving. And I would add wildly glitching and misgendering people. But if you thought that was bad, if you thought that was bad, you have to see what happened in Tucson, Arizona. A slurring Trump may have set the record for the lowest energy rally of all time. He seems deflated. He seems like he's out of energy. He is certainly not potent in any way that we could assess the meaning of that word.
Starting point is 00:46:03 And Donald Trump at this point, it's not clear if he's lying to himself or to the crowd, but he says, I won that debate and it's the moderators that should be fired. And I remember NBC and that stupid ABC that did this horrible debate. Those two people should be fired as an anchor. A couple of more years, they'll be fired. And she was nasty. She looked at me with hatred in her eyes. And him, he's a nice guy. I mean, they were told to do it by George Slopidopoulos, who's in the group, right? Remember, any woman who asks Trump questions and wants answers is nasty. She was nasty.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Lindsay Davis, Trump then going really substantive on debate moderator David Muir, saying his hair is not what it once was. Well, that's true of many of us, isn't it? They kept screaming at me. I said, why are you screaming? I'm saying to myself, I'm looking at him. I always liked him. I'm not going to watch him anymore. I'm not going to watch him because he's not legit what he did. I'm not going to watch him. And his hair is not as good as it used to be, you know. And if this wasn't bad enough, then the slurring started as Trump went into the lurid anecdotes
Starting point is 00:47:32 about rape and sodomy and murder. Trump just seeming like he's not all they're very, very low energy, visibly so. And illegal Haitians. And he came in, illegal Haitian migrants taking over a beautiful place. It was so beautiful. Springfield, Ohio. I was there. I campaigned there a while ago. Springfield, it was so beautiful. Now it's just what a place. Can you imagine you have this small little community? All of a sudden you have 20,000
Starting point is 00:48:06 illegals in your community. Nobody knows where they come from. I'm angry about young American girls being raped and sodomized and murdered by savage criminal aliens. How about that language? Huh? Slurring his way through the lurid anecdotes. But how about that dehumanizing language? All, of course, based on what J.D. Vance now admits are created stories. Don't worry,
Starting point is 00:48:34 we'll get to that a little bit later. And then finally, finally, Trump dropping every single ad hominem he can think of against Kamala Harris. We must defeat Comrade Kamala Harris. I use that term because you know what that term means, right? Communist. She's a Marxist, communist, fascist, socialist. That's the best. That's where you're like, hey, you know, I don't think you know what any of those words mean. She's a Marxist, communist, fascist, socialist. Now, if you sat Trump down, as no interviewer has done to date, and I wish one of them would and said, can you explain to me what is a fascist and what is a Marxist and what is a communist and what is a socialist?
Starting point is 00:49:25 And please apply that to the policy prescriptions of Kamala Harris. I would love to see that done. Haven't seen it done yet. Don't know if any reporter will do it. If this is what Trump's campaign will be like for the next what is it, six weeks or so? It doesn't seem like it's going to win him a single new voter. Tell me if you disagree. Many of us loved eating breakfast cereals as kids.
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Starting point is 00:53:06 in order to bring attention to. You've got to see this. Yesterday, J.D. Vance appeared on CNN with Dana Bash, and he says he and Trump must create these stories so that people pay attention. Of course, it's circular because if the story that you create for people to pay attention is fake, what's the point of them paying attention to it? Only to lie to people because you think it'll make them vote for you. It's wild. Check this out. Just once and for all, you again started this in part by saying that at which Donald Trump repeated on the debate stage that he didn't say anything about the policies that you're talking about. He just said Haitians are eating dogs and cats. Can you affirmatively say now that that is a rumor that has no base basis with evidence.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Dana, the evidence is the firsthand account of my constituents who are telling me that this happened. And by the way, I've been trying to talk about the problems in Springfield for months and the American media ignored it. There was a congressional hearing just last week of angel moms who lost children because Kamala Harris let criminal migrants into this country who then murdered their children. The American media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump and I started talking about cat memes. If I have to, if I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do, Dana, because you guys are completely letting Kamala Harris coast. If I have to create stories to get you to pay attention, then that is exactly what I will do. Wow. Should be uniquely disqualifying, but he might be the next vice president.
Starting point is 00:55:03 You had one interview with her. You talk about pushing back against me, Dana. You didn't push back against the fact that she cast the deciding vote on the Inflation Reduction Act, which is why a lot of Americans can't afford food and housing. You just said that you're creating a story policy. Are you just said that you're creating the story that data you just said that you're creating the story what's that dana you just said that this is a story that you created so so then the eating dog we are we are creating we are dana it comes from firsthand accounts from my constituents i say that we're creating a story meaning we're creating the american media focusing on it
Starting point is 00:55:43 i didn't create 20 000 illegal migrants coming into Springfield thanks to Kamala Harris's policies. Her policies did that. But yes, we created the actual focus that allowed the American media to talk about this story and the suffering caused by Kamala Harris's policies. Wow. You know, there was a picture floating around supposed proof. There was a black guy carrying two dead geese. Now you might say, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on a second. Wait a second, David. Illegal Haitian migrants eating dogs and cats and the picture of a black guy carrying two dead geese. That doesn't seem like the same thing. And not only are you right, it appears as though the black guy carrying the two dead geese is not only American, not Haitian, but he's an
Starting point is 00:56:32 employee of some agency. And he was dealing with like a wildlife call about two dead geese. It's it's absolutely stunning and surreal that they just say this stuff. Listen, if I have people, if I have to create it to get people to pay attention, I will. And people go, yeah, you know, it's true because the corporate media, they won't pay attention. So J.D. Vance is doing the right thing. He's creating it. He's putting the focus on it, but it's made up. And this continued. This got really if you can. But by the way, if you can believe it, this went on and on and on. Here's a piece of this from a different moment in the interview talked about some of the things that I've been talking about. Let me just say this. My constituents have brought approximately a dozen
Starting point is 00:57:15 separate concerns to me. Ten of them are verifiable and confirmable. And a couple of them I talk about because my constituents are telling me firsthand that they're seeing these things. So I have two options, Dana. I could ignore them, which is what the American media has done for years to this community. Or I can actually talk about what people are telling me. And if you think about that, look at what he's doing. I mean, you have to give him credit.
Starting point is 00:57:39 It's sort of evil genius. Trump goes there eating cats and dogs. And then now J.D. goes on CNN. He goes, Dan, you're the problem. You're the problem. We have to do this because you won't talk about this story. And Trump is go, yeah, that's right. Danabash is the. Of course, many of the things that the media says are completely baseless have since been confirmed. For example, I was told, Dana, that the American by the American media, that it was baseless that migrants were capturing the geese from the local park pond and eating them. And yet there are 911 calls from well before this ever became a viral sensation of people complaining about that
Starting point is 00:58:19 exact thing happening. So my attitude is listen to my constituents. Sometimes they're going to say things that people don't like, but they're saying things that people don't like because their town has been overwhelmed. And it's my job to try to fight for them and to protect them. Kamala Harris opened the border. And now these people are suffering. All right. So you get the point. It's just on and on and on. We this interview, not that we haven't talked about this before, but this interview reminded me in very stark relief how desensitized as a society we are to these completely outrageous statements and fabricated storylines. If we zoom out, we have Trump versus Harris. We have a disastrous presidential term from Trump and a perfectly fine presidential term
Starting point is 00:59:13 from Biden and Kamala Harris. Things aren't perfect. We have problems to solve. It is still a country of three hundred and forty million people with complexity and poverty and all these different things. But it's like it's kind of just been normal a little bit. And we have abstracted from that and a debate performance in which one of the two candidates couldn't even stay remotely on topic, screamed at his opponent, made up stories, had eyes were darting all around like a like a crazed maniac.
Starting point is 00:59:46 And now the story has become, well, there was a call about a goose. And here's a picture of this black guy we found carrying two geese. But he's American and actually works for like the wildlife people and has nothing to do with the Haitians. And by the way, the Haitians aren't here illegally. And and all of a sudden it's it's the media that's the problem because you won't report about Haitians eating cats and dogs. And we've completely abstracted and from the from the the core of all of this. And that's kind of their point. There's the idea that even Trump's supposed
Starting point is 01:00:20 romantic relationship with Laura Loomer is a less damaging story to Trump than the complete failure at the debate. Now, I'm not saying that's my view, but what I'm saying is there are those who say that whether it's true or not, the point is to distract from the debate performance at its core. Any one of these storylines, there is a time in American politics that they would have instantly ended not only your campaign, but probably your political career. I mean, Howard Dean once whooped.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Whoa. He didn't just get out. He didn't just lose that race. His political career was essentially over. I know it wasn't actually totally over. He did good work for different, I believe, nonprofits. But as far as like major elected office, his career was over. I know it wasn't actually totally over. He did good work for different, I believe, nonprofits. But as far as like a major elected office, his career was over. And this is where we are today. And these people might actually win. So that's where we are on
Starting point is 01:01:15 cats and dogs at this point in time. We'll see where we land on it tomorrow. Donald Trump suffered the final humiliating meltdown on truth central, where he reacted so poorly to Taylor Swift's endorsement of Kamala Harris that he took to truth social engaged caps lock and posted only I hate Taylor Swift. Imagine if Kamala Harris pulled up Twitter or Joe Biden went on Facebook or Obama went on wherever and posted in all capital letters, I hate Ted Nugent after Nugent endorses Trump or whatever. And consider how different differently that would be handled than how this insanity from Trump is being handled. I hate Taylor Swift. He is not only unable to resist any imp, I mean,
Starting point is 01:02:16 zero impulse control. And when we go back to the debate, one of the real constitutional problems with Trump as president is he has zero impulse control. He was prepped. Don't take the bait from Kamala. Don't take the bait. She's going to try to trigger you this way and try to get a rise either that way. And she goes, his rallies are boring and people leave. People are eating cats and dogs and you're a Marxist. He has zero impulse control, makes him completely unfit to be president. And similarly, Taylor Swift endorses Kamala and he's out there. I hate Taylor Swift. A couple other, by the way, moments during this exact same anti Taylor Swift rant on Truth Social. Also in capital letters, Trump posting the failing New York Times is a true threat to democracy. Now, by their standard. When anyone says Trump represents
Starting point is 01:03:14 a threat to democracy, that is inciting violence against Trump, according to them now. By that very standard, isn't Trump saying the New York Times is a threat to democracy, inciting violence against the New York Times? Trump continuing all rich job creating people that support Comrade Kamala Harris. You are stupid. She's seeking an unrealized tax on capital gains. It's actually a tax on unrealized capital gains. He doesn't even get that right. He says if this tax actually gets enacted, it guarantees we will have a 1929 style depression. Perhaps even the thought of it would lead to calamity, but at least appraisers and accountants would do well. I'm here to tell you there is not going to be a tax on unrealized capital gains. I know that there's different
Starting point is 01:04:00 views in my audience. Should it happen or should it not happen? It's not going to happen. It's just it's not going to happen. We don't even have the legal infrastructure for it to happen. Doesn't mean you couldn't create that infrastructure, but we don't have it right now. And it's just not going to happen during a four year Harris term. And finally, Donald Trump posting to Truth Central, the Democrats are destroying our country. Reverse deportation immediately. And once again, if saying, hey, you know what? Trump presents a threat to some of the pillars of our democracy. That's not good.
Starting point is 01:04:33 If that they claim is inspiring violence against Trump, then what about regularly saying Democrats are destroying our country? That has to be considered. Likewise, the incitement of violence against Democrats. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I either don't understand it or I'm misinterpreting it or it's not what they meant or it's not what he said or it was a joke or the fake news media misinterpreted it or fill in the blanks. So Trump not taking the Taylor Swift endorsement of Kamala Harris. Well, to say the least, we have a fantastic bonus show for you today.
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