The David Pakman Show - 9/3/24: Trump Labor Day FAIL, Kamala gains largest lead yet

Episode Date: September 3, 2024

-- On the Show: -- Kamala Harris opens her largest national lead on Donald Trump thus far as she rallies on Labor Day while Trump is missing -- Donald Trump suffers the worst Labor Day of his political life -- The Trump campaign is reportedly abandoning New Hampshire on the belief that Trump cannot win there, and is also cutting spending in North Carolina -- Melania Trump apparently wants Kamala Harris to win, and increasingly hates Donald Trump -- During an interview with Fox News' Mark Levin, Donald Trump's brain appears to short-circuit -- A visibly soaking wet Donald Trump terrifies multiple crowds at rallies in Johnstown, Pennsylvania and Pottersville, Michigan -- During an event with the right wing group Moms for Liberty, Donald Trump suggests that trans surgeries are being performed in schools -- Explaining the Bernie Sanders to Donald Trump pipeline that exists to a small degree -- On the Bonus Show: Gender gap widens between Harris and Trump, Trump's push for free IVF might attract suburban women, the new obsession with Kamala Harris work history at McDonald's, much more... 💵 Sponsored by Ridge Wallet: Shop and enter their sweepstakes at https://ridge.com/pakman 🌳 MyHeritage: Discover your family roots for FREE for 14 days at https://davidpakman.com/myheritage ⚠️ Try Ground News and get 40% OFF the Vantage plan at https://ground.news/pakman 👂 MDHearing: Use code PAKMAN to get a pair for just $297 at https://shopmdhearing.com/ 🛡️ Incogni lets you control your personal data! Get 60% off their annual plan: http://incogni.com/pakman 👍 Buy the FÜM Journey Pack and use code PAKMAN for a FREE GIFT at https://tryfum.com/pakman -- Become a Member: https://www.davidpakman.com/membership -- Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/davidpakmanshow -- TDPS Subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/thedavidpakmanshow -- Pakman Discord: https://www.davidpakman.com/discord -- David on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow -- Leave a Voicemail: (219)-2DAVIDP

Speaker 1 Welcome, everybody. Hope you had a good Labor Day weekend and welcome to the fall season of The David Pakman Show. It is election season and labor, particularly of interest this time around Labor Day and the election because of the focus on workers, workers rights unions, Donald Trump and JD Vance attempting to frame themselves as the ticket that is for the average worker, even though this is obviously and patently absurd. And on the other hand, you have Kamala Harris and Tim Walz doing a genuinely pretty good job at not only saying the right things

when it comes to supporting workers, but proposing the right policies and actually being able to walk the walk, not only talk the talk. And so we're going to look at this in a sort of review of Labor Day weekend. It was a major Labor Day weekend with regard to the campaign, except for the fact that Donald Trump was missing on Labor Day other than an unhinged post to truth central. So we're going to get out to all of these different things. But to begin with, I want to start with Kamala Harris in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and Tim Walz in Wisconsin, two critical states in general and two states of particular importance when you cut when it comes to organized labor, given the prevalence

of a factory union and other organized jobs in these particular states. So we start with Kamala Harris in Pittsburgh and we will build to the labor part. But just in general, Kamala Harris continuing to speak very clearly and directly to workers and to labor and to the average person and just doing a good job of connecting with voters. Because, of course, that's the nature of who we are as Americans. We have dreams, we can see what is possible possible unburdened by what has been. We have aspirations. We have ambitions. And the system that is a good system is one that supports that and allows people the opportunity to go where they can see and imagine themselves to be. That's what I'm talking about when I talk about an opportunity economy.

We fight for a future where every senior can retire with dignity. And so we will continue to defend Social Security and Medicare and pensions. Now, as she continued to give this progressive economic message, someone from the crowd shouted out about Trump. He's going to jail and Kamala Harris not making any mistakes following due process and law and order and saying the courts will handle that. We're going to deal with the election. Trump is trying to pull us backwards, including back to a time before workers had the freedom to organize. Well, the courts will handle that and we will handle November.

I love that. We'll handle November. Let the courts handle that. Now, of course, that is the law and order message, not erratically and apoplectically demanding people be jailed or imprisoned, especially when, like Hillary Clinton, she's not even been charged with a crime, never mind convicted. And Kamala Harris making it clear that it is actually she and Tim Walz who are the party of law and order. And then going back to this message on Labor Day about workers,

about organized labor, about respecting the average American fight, knowing it's some backward thinking for those folks who have been suggesting for years that the the measure of the strength of a leader is based on who you beat down. You know, that's the stuff they're pushing, that the measure of the strength of a leader is based on who you beat down. You know, that's the stuff they're pushing. That the measure of the strength of a leader is based on who you beat down when we know the true measure of the strength of a leader is based on who you lift up. Who you lift up. Do you fight for workers? Do you fight for families? Do you fight for those who must be seen and heard and deserve the dignity that comes with hard work? What's brilliant about this is that you're combining the message of being for labor with the message about how the other side is effectively just bullies. Trump and Vance going on about who can we put

down childless cat ladies or biological mothers or biologically not stepmoms or this this whole deranged thing that J.D. Vance has put together or Trump where, hey, vote for me because Kamala's laugh is no good. Vote for me because Kamala used to be Indian and she became black, as he wildly said. Vote for me because of these lurid anecdotes of violence that I can completely out of context tell you. That's a very different message from, hey, vote for us because we are going to put together a package of policies which will let people be free to decide. Here's the field I want to work in, regardless of having to calculate, will I have health care? Here's a package that we are going to put together that is going to level the playing

field not to achieve a quality of outcome, but to achieve a quality of opportunity or something close to it. We're going to lift people up. Combining that with the backbone of it is the American worker, the people that Donald Trump has spent his entire life wanting to be kept isolated from. So really staying on message on Labor Day. Now, President Joe Biden also spoke at this event and did also directly address, given that it was Labor Day, the issue of workers and labor. Folks made a lot of progress. And Kamala and I are going to build on that progress and she's going to build on it.

I'll be on the sidelines, but I'll do everything I can to help. So look, I'm not joking when I say, this is not a joke. When I said this when I was running in 2020, a lot of people didn't believe me. You did, but you didn't believe me. It's all at risk because of Donald Trump, literally. With a stroke of the pen, he can get rid of a lot of this. And do you think this guy gives a damn about your pensions? No, I'm serious. Do you think he he loses even an instant of sleep over it? Do you think he cares about all the work you do every day and how hard it is? Do you think he cares about good paying jobs for hardworking

people who built this economy? Hell, he regards picket lines. He'd rather cross one than walk one. But I have no problem walking the picket line. And of course, President Joe Biden, the only sitting president to join a picket line with striking workers in American history that we've been able to find a Joe Biden also poking fun at how it was perennially. It was endlessly infrastructure week when Donald Trump was president. And we were always two weeks away from his new health care plan. I might remember Trump for four years promised every month infrastructure week for four years. Promised every month, infrastructure week. For four years he promised that. He didn't build a damn thing.

Nothing. I mean it, not nothing. Well, thanks to our infrastructure law, Pennsylvania so far has received $17 billion. $17 billion. Trump has received 17 billion dollars, 17 billion dollars. So this was Trump and rather this was Trump missing on Labor Day and it was Harris and it was Biden. And now I want to address that other sort of elephant in the room.

Where the hell was Donald Trump on Labor Day? By all accounts, Donald Trump suffered the worst Labor Day of his political life yesterday. And this was not just, oh, Kamala Harris is holding a rally with Joe Biden, but I'm not really sure what Trump is up to. This was not, oh, Tim Walz is holding a rally in Wisconsin, but I'm not really sure what Trump is up to. This was not, oh, Tim Walls is holding a rally in Wisconsin, but I'm not really sure what J.D. Vance is up to. It was noticed even by corporate media that as the Harris Walls ticket was out there meeting with workers, speaking to workers in critical states, particularly for organized labor, Donald Trump is just kind of missing.

And here's an MSNBC report about exactly this. To see Donald Trump or frankly, to not see Donald Trump on the campaign trail seems like a real unforced error. Something, you know, if you want to stand with labor, you show up on Labor Day, right? That's kind of the mission. You contrast that with what we're seeing from the Harris campaign, which is a very intentional rollout for the first time together in this new formulation with Harris at the top of the ticket and Biden no longer on it is the president and the vice president as a ticket showing up for a campaign event here. So listen, we are going to get to this a little bit later because some people wrote to me

over the weekend about the Bernie to Trump pipeline and the fraught nature of populist messaging that often doesn't have progressive policy with it. So we're going to get to it. But this is something much more superficial. It's Labor Day and Trump Vance are missing while Harris walls are in key labor states. I am going to put up on the screen what Donald Trump put out. Donald Trump put out a troth on truth social for Labor Day, where he said, happy Labor Day to all of our American workers who represent the shining example of hard work. By the way, there's random capital letters all over this thing. Shining example of hard work and ingenuity under comrade Kamala Harris. All Americans are suffering during this holiday weekend.

High gas prices, transportation costs are up and grocery prices are through the roof. We can't keep living under this weak and failed, quote, leadership. That's Trump on Labor Day. And meanwhile, we saw Vice President Harris in Pittsburgh. We're going to look at a little bit more of that now. We're going to look at Tim Walz. Here is Vice President Kamala Harris reminding us the race will be tight to the end. But labor knows the way we win this thing. So friends, 64 days until the most election of our lives. And probably one of the most important in the life of our nation. Truly.

And we know this is going to be a tight race to the very end. It's going to be a tight race to the very end. So let's not pay too much attention to those polls. to the very end. It's going to be a tight race to the very end. So let's not pay too much attention to those polls. Because as unions and labor knows best, we know what it's like to be the underdog.

And we are the underdog in this race. And we have some hard work then ahead of us. But here's the beauty of us in this room. We like hard work then ahead of us. But here's the beauty of us in this room. We like our work. Hard work is good work. Hard work is joyful work.

So Kamala Harris reminding the audience, no matter what you see in the polls and we will look at the polls in a moment, we've got to work to the very end. Tim Walls in Wisconsin, similarly with a sort of unity message. We respect differences. That's your opinion. Look, we're sitting here together. Brewers and twins fans, Vikings and Packers. We respect it. But on things like health care and what books I read and democracy, we all live by that very simple golden rule. Mind your own damn business. Mind your own business.

Tim Walls continuing to be really, really good at connecting with crowds in this way. Here's a little bit more from Tim Walls in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, yesterday. This guy has made it clear how he stands. He's sitting down at Mar-a-Lago after he got elected president. And this was his exact quote. He's talking to a bunch of folks at Mar-a-Lago. You're rich as hell, and we're going to give you a tax cut. At the same time, he was telling workers they get paid too much already. That's who this guy is. You tell me who in Wisconsin is sitting around saying, damn, I wish they'd give billionaires tax cuts and screw me over. Damn, I wish they'd take my

health care away. I wish they'd underfund my public school. I wish they would make my job more difficult, more dangerous. And then at the end of the day, I wish they'd make me work till I'm 75 years old. No one's saying that. No one's asking for that agenda. What they're asking for is to be treated fairly with dignity. That's what we have. So Tim Wall's very much a message on Labor Day. As I mentioned, Joe Biden also speaking and Biden seemingly also connecting with the crowd. She'll be a historic pro union president. So, folks, we got one more job to do together. Let me ask you, are you ready to fight?

Are you ready to fight? Are you ready to win? Are you ready to let Kamala Harris, our next president, a very different image of a guy in Joe Biden who genuinely likes his vice president as Harris does walls very different than Trump, who seems to have growing contempt for J.D. Vance, the guy that he reportedly only selected, contrary to almost everyone around him. His preferences only because Don Jr. and Eric Trump told him, hey, here's the guy that you should pick. So where does this leave us on this disastrous Labor Day for Donald Trump? Well, it leaves us with Kamala Harris's biggest national lead in the polling since this thing started. Now,

wait, David, didn't you say last week that her lead had peaked at one point five? And didn't you tell us the week before that she had reached a one point oh percent lead? And didn't you tell us the week before that she had reached a 1.0 percent lead? And didn't you tell us the week before that it had shifted from a small Trump lead to a small Kamala Harris lead? The answer is yes. We have seen a linear trajectory where Kamala Harris went from being down a couple of points when she took over for Joe Biden on the ticket to leading by half a point to leading by one point to leading by a point and a half and now leading by one point eight on average in the national polling, the largest lead she has had so far, so far. Now it is still, as they've been saying, 60 plus days until this election. But if we look at Labor Day and we look at the largest polling lead she's held so far

and we look at Trump missing on Labor Day, except for a stupid message on truth social compared with what Harris walls are up to, you have to like the position you're in, but you still do have to execute. So let's take a break. We're going to get caught up on everything from the long weekend. I will address this Bernie to Trump pipeline thing that I heard from many of you about. Make sure you're subscribed to the YouTube channel, youtube.com slash the David Pakman show.

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that it is gone. It is only the first few days of September. We've just passed Labor Day. And the reporting is that they're pulling the plug on New Hampshire. They don't believe they can win. They believe it is in the bag for Kamala Harris and are pulling funding and staffers from the state. This is based on leaked insider emails from the Trump campaign. They quote, no longer think New Hampshire is winnable and are pulling back. Tom Mountain, former Republican Party vice chair in Massachusetts,

sent an email to volunteers saying the campaign has determined New Hampshire is no longer a battleground state and that Trump is sure to lose by an even larger margin in New Hampshire than he did in 2016 and 2020. Now, there are two sides to this story. First of all, the polling. We don't have a ton of new polling in New Hampshire. There's one poll from August that shows Harris plus five. There's two polls from late July. One shows Harris plus five, sorry, plus four. One shows Harris plus six. So on average, you you average this together. It's basically a five point lead for Kamala Harris. You might say, well, I mean, five, that doesn't seem like New Hampshire is a unique state in a lot of different ways. The margins are often very, very small. And at this stage of the game,

a signal that says it's all Harris all the way by five points is really a sign, really a sign that that is not going to go well for Donald Trump. Now, here's the counterpoint in terms of what this means for the November election. And there's two interpretations. Interpretation number one is the one I'm sort of alluding to here. And this is a map of the 2020 results that I have on the screen. Interpretation number one of the Trump campaign bailing in New Hampshire this early is we have a potential landslide here. You would normally fight for New Hampshire all the way to

the end. And it's a very, very bad sign for Donald Trump. But there's a counter narrative. And I think it's important to acknowledge it, which is Trump won in 2016 without New Hampshire and Trump lost in 2020 without New Hampshire. And in a sense, New Hampshire, with its four electoral votes, is unlikely to be the difference maker. And case in point, if we start with last year's last elections map and we were to flip New Hampshire to Trump, which brings them just a little bit closer, it doesn't really change the dynamics in the sense that if Trump can get Georgia and Arizona, even with New Hampshire, it is still not enough. He would need something else if Trump is unable to get Georgia and Arizona and they stay with Biden.

But he's able to flip two of the three Minnesota, sorry, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania. You know, if he gets Pennsylvania and Michigan, he wins in this one scenario. New Hampshire matters because if you flip New Hampshire back, you have this unicorn scenario, 269 to 269. But that is considered an extremely unlikely scenario. If you look at flipping Wisconsin instead of Michigan, then it is not enough even with New Hampshire. And so the point I'm trying to make is that as you go through these different scenarios, the odds that New Hampshire becomes the difference maker are very, very low. Would you like to have it? Sure. But you can really interpret this two different

ways. The default reflexive one is, wow, they're giving up on New Hampshire. This thing is over. I think the more cautious and prudent approach is in most scenarios, New Hampshire doesn't make a difference. He won in 2016 without it and he lost in 2020 without it. And save for this 269, 269 scenario that lots of people like to talk about, but is mathematically very unlikely. It is not likely to be a place actually worth fighting for for Donald Trump. So sign of disaster is interpretation number one. A pragmatic, calculated decision is interpretation number two. Now I do want to say one other thing. Donald Trump, there's competing reports about what's happening in North Carolina.

And in fact, let's maybe put this back up on the board here. North Carolina, which Donald Trump won in 2020. There are reports that say Trump's giving up on North Carolina because he is cutting spending there reportedly from 10 to 3 million. I don't think that's the right narrative to me. The right narrative in North Carolina is Trump is having to spend money in North Carolina. Yes, he's spending less money next month than he did last month. But the fact that Trump is even having to think about fighting for North Carolina, that's genuinely a bad sign for Donald Trump and potentially a good sign for Kamala Harris. So that's the latest as far as the states go. Let's now talk about

what's going on with this election and Donald Trump's wife, Anthony Scaramucci, made what some are describing as bombshell claims that Melania Trump wants Kamala Harris to win and that she hates Donald Trump. I am going to argue I don't think these are really the bombshell claims that some headlines are making them out to be. It's pretty obvious that Melania Trump has not wanted anything to do with this entire political Donald Trump. She wishes he had never run for president. They don't speak. They've reportedly renegotiated a prenup that includes her staying with them through the campaign, even though she's never anywhere on the campaign trail. So anyway, here's Anthony Scaramucci telling our friend Ben Micellus, the only person who might want Trump to lose more than he wants Trump to lose is Melania

herself. You're saying no one wants her to win more than you. Nobody wants her. Nobody wants her to win more than me. Maybe Melania Trump. That could be the only person I think of, you know, because she hates him. Like I judge the hatred of Donald Trump by the Melania standard. Like Ben hates Trump, but slightly less than Melania. My wife hates Trump as much as Melania. I've met one person that actually hates Trump more than Melania. That's General Milley. He's the only guy I've met so far that actually hates him more than Melania. That's General Milley. He's the only guy I've met so far

that actually hates him more than Melania. You know what I mean? I always judge the hatred of Trump by the Melania standard. Well, Trump called for the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Milley, to be killed. Yes. He's the despicable guy for doing that. And it's also caused a threat to General Milley and his family. And the fact that we're even talking about an enemies list in a country like ours, which is the longest standing Republican representative democracy, 250 years. It's just a disgusting thing that we're actually had. All right. So the claim here is Melania hates Trump. She wants Kamala Harris to win. Seems kind of obvious, to be honest. I don't know whether Anthony Scaramucci has any special insight into this or knowledge,

but what he's saying is extraordinarily plausible. And the entire Donald Trump political foray, foray into into politics has been terrible for Melania Trump. Uh, this hardly seems like a bombshell in a sense because it's hard to think of anything that has wreaked more havoc into the relationship of Trump and Melania, but also just into Melania Trump's life, who seems to want nothing to do. You know, it was supposedly a big deal when she, uh, did something to the Rose garden, like got rid of the roses or something, made it look absolutely terrible. And that's like all she really wanted to do.

A grammatical error about be best having to be massaged into a supposed initiative that Melania Trump was getting involved in. So I think Anthony Scaramucci's instinct is completely and totally correct. If you ask me, is Melania Trump secretly voting for Kamala Harris? I have no idea, but it seems abundantly clear that she not only hates Donald Trump, but wants him to lose partially because there is reporting that their relationship continuing as this farcical facade that is all that's left is about not calling attention to the failed relationship.

You know, it's it's funny if the evangelicals still went for Trump despite the cheating, the divorces, the multiple marriages, the children with different women, the hush money payoffs to porn stars, if they ultimately went with Trump, I think they'd go with Trump even if he was officially single. Trump's essentially a single guy. But if he were officially single, you know, this totally ridiculous notion that the evangelicals really need a family man and you know, the whole thing. They abandoned every single principle other than he has nominally a wife and still voted for the guy. I don't really think it would make a difference. But from the reporting, it seems clear that Trump and the

people around him do believe it would make a difference and that it's better for him politically if he is still at least ostensibly married to Melania Trump. So I think Melania also wants him to lose so that she can finally get the hell out of there. Interesting from Anthony Scaramucci, not necessarily the bombshell that some are making it out to be. Let's take a very quick break. Make sure you've preordered my forthcoming book, The Echo Machine, which you can find at David Pakman dot com slash echo or anywhere.

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significantly. He does not seem to know what he is saying, talking about how he thinks God thinks he's going to fix our very sick country. See if you can unravel this mess of an attempt to speak English. But no, I think you think like if you believe in God, you believe in God more. And somebody said, like, why? And I'd like to think that God thinks that I'm going to straighten out our country. Our country is so sick and it's so broken.

Our country is just broken. And maybe that was the reason. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It's perfectly logical and sensible to assume that God sent Trump to win in 2016 to lose in 2020, but to try to steal it, but fail to do so to then get indicted, to remind people how poorly he's been treated so that then he can come back and save the country from the sick Status it now holds in 2024

Perfect. I Feel stupid saying it perfectly logical to think that that is what God did Hilariously Mark Levin frames up a question in a completely it's actually a hilariously dishonest way to frame a question. Listen to this. You've been a man of faith. You go to church. OK, both of those are lies.

Trump is not a man of faith. His complete religious reawakening was fabricated to get into politics. He doesn't go to church. I looked the last time I was able to find evidence that Trump went to church was December of 2021 for a man of faith who's deeply spiritual and believes in God. It's been almost it's been almost three years since he stepped inside a church other than just to give a political speech that we were able to find. You believe in God. Has this further your belief, your commitment? And obviously, God, in addition to that chart, saved your life. He has a purpose for you.

Right. Do you think about these things? Saved Trump's life, killed an innocent bystander standing behind Trump. But hey, put that aside. Well, I think you believe more because when you speak to experts like my sons who are shooting experts, but when you speak to experts, they said there was no chance that he could have missed from that distance. Right. He knows God saved him and killed an innocent bystander because his sons, who are experts in shooting, this is stupid. His sons, who are experts in shooting, told him, oh, no, you don't miss at that distance. Wow.

Wow. If there were ever a more inspirational spiritual story that would reinvigorate anyone's belief in the higher power, it would be Trump's son's opinions about shooting with rifles. Trump still seemingly confused about bleach bit the software program, seeming to believe it's a physical substance like an acid. This is the United States. When it came to Hillary, you remember they subpoenaed her stuff and she bleached it. That's where you just it's basically acid. Yeah. Just as a reminder, Trump is confused here between software used to delete information from hard drives like a software called bleach bit. Trump seeming to think that it is like dipping a hard drive in an acidic solution. Man, I feel stupid even having to explain this.

So anyway, that's Trump still confused about that. Confusedly, Trump saying that the way Kamala Harris treated Mike Pence is horrible. But I agree to all these things that I normally wouldn't agree to. Now they have Kamala, who they say has many deficiencies, but she's a nasty person. The way she treated Mike Pence was horrible. The way she treats people is horrible. But the way she treated Justice Kavanaugh during that hearing in the history of Congress, nobody's been treated that way. So first of all, Kamala Harris is questioning of then Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh

was one of the better performances actually trying to hold him to account and pin him down on what do you believe and what do you know? But the irony, the sick irony of Trump saying Kamala treated Mike Pence so horribly. Trump sent a mob to kill Mike Pence. And he says, oh, Kamala treated him horribly because of the things she said, I guess, during their debate. I don't even know Trump addressing the word progressive. This is actually pretty funny with them because they're, you know, they're Trump haters at

the highest level. And CNN is a Trump hater. Basically they're liberals. I don't like to use the word progressive. It's too pretty a word. It's such a pretty word. They're progressive. Progressive means you think into the future.

Yeah, they're actually thinking to 3000 years ago. No, no, no, no, no. We are thinking about the future. That's exactly what We are thinking about the future. That's exactly what we're thinking about. We're thinking about questions like in the future. Should there be people that just don't have health care? Is that something we should have in the future? I believe the answer is no. In the future, should there be hunger when we have so much food waste and producing more food than ever? Should there

still be people who go hungry? I believe the answer is no. Should we have poverty and people below a certain standard of living in the future? No, that's what it means. It is progressive. We are thinking about the future. And Trump's sort of like having a moment there where he's like, wait a second, that that I can't use that word because that actually sounds like they're thinking about the future, which we are. And then finally, in this ridiculous softball interview gone wrong, Donald Trump confirming confirming I did interfere with the presidential election, but I should be allowed to do it. Whoever heard you get indicted for interfering with a presidential election where you have every right to do it, you get indicted and you have every right to do it.

They indicted me for interfering with the presidential election in which I had every right to interfere. Wait a second. I thought the argument was you didn't do it. Now you're saying you did do it, but it was wrong to indict you because you had every right to do it. I actually think sometimes the softball interviews go worse for Trump because his guard is down. Not that Trump is subjecting himself to seriously critical interviews. Check out that recent one with the Sean Davis Navy SEAL dude, if you want to see an example.

But the softball interviews almost seem to go worse, seemingly because his guard is down and he starts speaking extemporaneously and making no sense. Now, if you thought this interview was bad, we have to look. We must look at Trump's rallies earlier this weekend, a visibly dripping and soaking wet, swollen Trump, his right eye swollen, almost completely shut as sweat just dripped off of him, held rallies in Johnstown, Pennsylvania and Pottersville, Michigan. Trump, I don't think I've ever seen him this bad. Here is Trump claiming that his non sequiturs, when he talks about a shark and a boat and an electric vehicle and wind and birds and noise and Kamala and communists. And he says that

when he's doing that, he's weaving stories together in a way that is impressive to college English professors. This man is sick. He's sick. You know, I do the weave. You know, the way this I'll talk about like nine different things and they all come back brilliantly together. And it's like and friends of mine that are like English professors, they say it's the most brilliant thing I've ever seen. But the fake news, you know what they say? He rambled.

That has to be some form of mental illness. The English professors come up to me and they say, sir, we can't believe how great your English is. We've never seen people do with words the things you're able to do. And when you talked about the late great Hannibal Lecter followed with how noise cancer kills birds and sharks are electrocuted by but by by electric boats. It's brilliant. We need we want to forget about Shakespeare. Put Beowulf in the trash.

James Joyce, be damned. We will now teach Trump speeches in English class, sir. It's delusional and it it must be some form of mental illness. I can't think of any other explanation. During one of Trump's rallies, a guy tried to attack the media. All of the reporters and the cameras, they're up on sort of like a like a raised stage at the back of the venue. And here is a guy getting up there and trying to attack the media, of course, weaponized by Trump, who says the media at the back of the venue. And here is a guy getting up there and trying to attack the media, of course, weaponized by Trump, who says the media is the enemy of the people. Police get a police show up.

It's all chaos. Take a look at. So the guy's trying to climb in and attack media and bystanders start grabbing him and then police. All right. It's very visual, so I won't play all of it because we have a lot of people that are just listening. But essentially, a kerfuffle develops where police show up and they pull this guy down and some people are cheering the guy and some people are attacking the media further verbally. And here's the bottom line. Trump attacks the media and one of his rally goers attacks the media. Trump says on January 6th,

here's what we're going to do. And then his followers go and they do it. These are people predisposed to being weaponized in physically violent ways. And then Trump shows up and he weaponizes them in violent ways. So no surprise there. Then we get to the profuse sweating Donald Trump. I mean, just just dripping sweat and saying things that are really odd. And as you deserve a president who respects you, talks to you and who levels with you, puts it right on the level and who always has your best interests and has your back. I have your back.

I have your heart and I have every other part of your body. Trump has every no, it's not. It's not just some. Trump has every part of your body. That's a message we can really get behind Trump with an allegedly racist message. He talked about Congressman Byron Donald's who's black and said he's one of the smart ones. You have a lot of them who aren't quite so good. Of course, two interpretations. You've got a lot of dumb black people, but Byron Donald's is one of the smart black people, more benign. You have a lot of members of Congress that are not so good. But Byron Donald's is one of the good ones. I don't know anymore. And he immediately the first thing he did was approve the Nord Stream pipeline. And

then they'd say, Mr. Congress, oh, look who we have. Byron said that place superstar of the future. He's already a superstar, but he's a superstar of the future. Byron Donald's Florida. Wow. That's nice to have you here. That's good. He's great. He's great. He knows exactly what I'm talking about. That one is smart. You have smart ones and you have some that aren't quite so good, but we have a group of people that are so definitely very edgy stuff. Unclear if it's overt and blatant racism or just another one of these confusions and misunderstandings. Donald Trump claims that no one knows Kamala Harris's last name, which is funny coming from a guy who can't seem to say her first name.

But the fake news is doing everything possible, everything they can to help Kamala Harris. Do you ever notice nobody knows what her last name is? I go, okay, I'm going to give you the first name. Tell me the last name. I say, Kamala, uh, they have no idea who the hell she is. It's weird that in his sentence saying no one knows her last name, he's mispronouncing her first name. It's all really weird. And then maybe most notably from this speech,

Trump appeared to endorse Kamala Harris for president. The American people are smart. They will not be manipulated by Hollywood, the fake news media and all of the advertising. And you deserve a president who respects you, talks to you, who levels with you and who always has your best interests at heart. Sounds pretty good. That person is most certainly not Donald Trump. And then finally, apropos of nothing, Trump says Barack Obama's middle name a few times, which is

yet another one of these racist dog whistles, of course. And a general told me, sir, we can't do that. They won't take him back. They said, well, because Obama tried very hard to take him back. Barack Hussein Obama. Has anybody ever heard of Barack Hussein Obama? Remember Rush Limbaugh? Barack Hussein Obama.

Rush, the great Rush Limbaugh. Right. We miss Rush. We miss we miss him. Right. He said Hussein. That was really that really made me think about economic policy when he reminded us that two presidents ago, the guy's middle name was Hussein. Really, really interesting stuff. Completely failed events. And the air has been let out of it. CNN cut away from this drivel. Fox News often doesn't even take it. It's not going well. So Trump's next approach is what about some interviews building up the narrative that he does interviews, but Kamala Harris doesn't, even though she just did a perfectly normal interview with CNN.

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discourse is that when the other side brazenly lies and to even get back to the beginning of a conversation where there might be a reasonable disagreement, we have to first undo all of the lies. By definition, you're behind. And we have the perfect example of this from a bizarre interview Donald Trump gave a few days ago to the right wing moms group Moms for Liberty. It turns out that Moms for Liberty are only for liberty when it's the type of liberty they like and approve of. But that's probably a topic for a different day. Donald Trump bizarrely reclining during this entire interview, almost like we do at a Passover Seder where you you eat reclined, right? The the the other Jewish folks in the audience, I'm sure know that you recline during the

Passover Seder, at least in theory. And Donald Trump bizarrely reclining. It's just everything about this interview is strange. And Trump seems to suggest here that they're that children it's hard to even explain what he says, because it's so ridiculous. Children are getting trans surgeries as he knows them, gender affirming surgery at school. Correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't that what Trump is saying? He said, oh, it's nobody in this room wants 85, 90 percent of the country doesn't want it. They absolutely.

But the transgender thing is incredible. Think of it. You can't go to school and it comes home a few days later with an operation. The school decides what's going to happen with your child. Now, of course, it's many of these children. That's the way conventionally the English language works. It's not many of these child's. It's many of these children. But Trump is saying

your kid goes to school a few days later. I guess they don't come home from school the first day. I don't know if they're gone at school a few days and then they come home with an operation. Having had an operation, who did it? Are teachers performing surgery? Damn it. And do they have an anesthesiologist present or not? I mean, these are certainly questions we need answers to. It's so absurd that normal people would say, why do we even need to respond to this stuff? But every time they come up with something like this, large swaths of their followers believe it. Remember when I think was it Matt Walsh or Charlie Kirk? I think it was Matt Walsh. Yeah. Matt Walsh on The Rogan Show said

something like there's clearly, you know, was it tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions, some ridiculous number of double mastectomies being performed on prepubescent girls, which is hard to do since prepubescent girls don't have breasts like none of it made sense. And it was just totally made up. But it's spread like wildfire. And we had to fight to first clarify that that's fabricated out of thin air before we could even get to any kind of substantive conversation. So they win when they make this stuff up as scary and absurd as this is. Trump going with the xenophobic rhetoric during the Moms for Liberty speech as well with the

immigrants are poisoning our country stuff. But what's happening to our country, our country is being poisoned, poisoned. And your school immigrants are poison. Schools and your children are suffering greatly because they're going into the classrooms and taking disease and they don't even speak English. It's crazy. And we have our people that aren't going into a classroom. We have students that were there last year that aren't allowed into the school this year. They're not allowed. It's crazy. It's crazy. And of course, this is the dehumanizing language that is aimed at or has the function of diminishing people's self-esteem and self-worth, creating tiers and hierarchies of people which these

right wingers just love. During this same interview, Donald Trump, who has claimed endlessly that he knows nothing about Project 2025. And when he looked at the list of their demands, he doesn't even like it. He echoes Project 2025. Listen to what he said. But, you know, but the guys on television are woke and a lot of the top people are woke, but they'll all be gone pretty quick. They can all be gone. Get them out. When I was in Milwaukee, I got that is Trump echoing one of the principles of Project 2025, which is he says there's these woke people in the military. We're going to purge them and we're going to put in MAGA loyalists. That's Project 2025.

At another point, Trump took on the topic. I don't even want to call it an issue because it's really not an issue. He took on the topic of Kamala Harris's previous employment at McDonald's, I guess, something I really don't care much about. But now they're going with that was a lie, I guess. But she called him a racist. The bus, you remember the story of the bus, you know, fake story, probably. Well, she also said, I worked at McDonald's. Turned out she didn't work at McDonald's. Anybody see that? After an exhaustive study that took about 20 minutes, they found out they found out she never worked

there. So, you know, there's a lot of fake stuff going on, but we don't need that for a president. And our country can't stand it. We we are really in trouble. We're a failing nation, whether you like it or not. And now, to be clear, I looked around. Do we have to get into the weeds? I guess we do, because lie on it all the time. It has not been determined that Kamala Harris did not work at McDonald's. It is true that she has claimed that she worked at McDonald's. There are those asserting that she did not. But I was not able to find anything one way or the other. Now, if it's true that she lied about it, then I would have something to say. But at this point in time, it has not been proven that Kamala Harris didn't work at McDonald's. They're only now making it an issue. So we'll see where that lands.

Trump also admitted during this very strange interview that he wanted to make Ivanka Trump secretary to the United Nations. Talk about nepotism. But she gave it up because she wanted to go and and she didn't want something like the United Nations secretary. I wanted her to do that. I said, you would be a great ambassador to the United Nations, United Nations secretary. You there'd be nobody to compete with her. I tell you, she may be my daughter, but nobody could have competed with her. There you go. Spoken like a true nepotist. I wanted my daughter to get a cushy gig. Thanks to me being president. Nobody would have been better at the job than she would have, but she didn't want to do it. And finally, Trump winding down this terrifying

interview by saying we don't need more defective people in the role of president. See, she's defective. She's a defective person and we don't need another defective person as president of the United States. We just had that. He's right. We don't want a defective person as president of the United States.

And that's why we have to make damn sure that Donald Trump doesn't become president of the United States. I received some emails over the weekend asking me to explain the Bernie to Trump pipeline. In other words, how does someone who at one point supported Bernie Sanders or claimed to end up supporting Donald Trump. I don't know why six people emailed me about this over the weekend. Maybe there was some it seems like a really specific question that maybe there was some other commentator who talked about it. I don't know. But I'm glad to talk about this because it's something that in a sense I've addressed before. It is true that there are some Bernie Sanders supporters, previous Bernie Sanders supporters who transitioned to Donald Trump.

And the way I would characterize their transition would be what is there in common between supporting Bernie and supporting Trump? Well, what you have in common is an underlying frustration with the political establishment, sometimes interpreted correctly, sometimes misinterpreted, but a perceived frustration with the political establishment. And it all goes back to the populist rhetoric that I've been warning you about for years can sound good, but can lead people to support elected officials that would do terrible things when it comes to policy. Bernie's campaign resonated with voters because it opposed corporate influence in politics. It opposed economic

inequality. It opposed in many ways the status quo. It resonated with, hey, the average person's not getting a fair shake and we need to do something about that. And when Bernie Sanders did not become the Democratic nominee, there were supporters in 2016 and 2020 who felt betrayed and disillusioned with the Democratic Party. And that kind of set them up to say, I'm open to something else. Now, as I've spoken to you about before, populism is primarily a rhetoric. Popular. If I say to you, hey, I'm a populist, there is not a specific set of policy ideas there. It's about championing the people about the elite as some kind of enemy. The details of which really vary. If you listen, as I've said before, if you listen to the populist rhetoric of Bernie Sanders and you listen to the populist rhetoric of Tucker Carlson, it can sound similar, but the solutions they would propose are very different.

Both left wing and right wing populists will use really similar rhetoric, but they'll propose drastically different solutions to the same problems when it comes to policy. Bernie Sanders populism focused on economic justice, progressive social policy. And on the other hand, the Trump populism, the Tucker populism targets immigrants, blames globalization, promotes an unhealthy nationalism. And so what what is the overlap here is an anti-establishment rhetoric. And that has made it unfortunately easy for some Bernie Sanders supporters. Not me. I was a Bernie supporter. Not going to end up being tricked into supporting Trump or Tucker. But some Bernie supporters, because of the similarity of the rhetoric, have ended up drawn to Trump,

even though on policy they couldn't be more different. Misinformation plays a role in this. Propaganda plays a role in this, trying to make Trump seem like the working class champion. There are similar stories. Bernie is a champion of the working class. Trump is a champion of the working class. The problem is when it comes to Trump, it's a lie. Bernie has a 40 year public record as an elected official at all levels of government

of supporting the working class. Trump has a few years of claiming to support the working class undergirded by a lifetime of not paying workers, labor violations and trying as a personal priority to be kept completely isolated from the working class, given his silver spoon upbringing in Manhattan and Queens. So similar rhetoric, true when it comes to Bernie, a fabricated lie when it comes to Donald Trump. And so the Bernie to Trump pipeline is a pipeline of populist rhetoric and the redirection and the hijacking of political discontent towards dramatically different solutions, depending on what is the narrative and what is the framing. And a slice of people have fallen for it. So what's the takeaway? Well, the takeaway is the importance for progressives to clearly articulate the differences between

left and right wing populism. I've been doing this for a long time and I prefer to skip the populist rhetoric and say, hey, you know what? I'm a social Democrat. It's a well regulated form of capitalism. Here's the policy I believe in. If you believe in social democracy, if you believe in it in Sweden or in Denmark or in the United States, there is a coherent set of policy ideas there.

The danger of the populist rhetoric, and I've been saying it for years, is that it is a rhetoric and not a set of policies. And that's how you end up with this slice of people that have gone Bernie to Trump, even though it makes no sense whatsoever, unless you don't really understand what's going on. We have a fantastic bonus show for you today. We'll talk about the gender gap becoming wider in terms of support for Kamala Harris versus Trump. We'll talk about the effects of Trump's new push for free IVF. And we will address in more detail the new MAGA obsession related to Kamala Harris

working at McDonald's. All of those stories and more on today's bonus show. Sign up at join Pacman dot com. I will see you then. And we're back tomorrow.