The David Pakman Show - A truly brutal week if you care about sanity

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

-- On the Show: -- Donald Trump blasts four Republican lawmakers after they join Democrats in passing a House resolution to reign in his Iran war -- Americans continue struggling with high costs for... groceries, gas, housing, insurance, and debt despite promises that expenses would fall -- Donald Trump disappears from public view for seven days after a physical examination before returning with a noticeably tired appearance -- Donald Trump posts overnight messages claiming prices are falling and alleging election misconduct while polls show poor ratings on inflation -- Donald Trump returns after seven days out of public view to speak to reporters and describes a ceasefire as fighting that continues -- Marco Rubio denies ever seeing Donald Trump asleep before lawmakers play videos that appear to show Trump sleeping in meetings -- Calls grow for the release of remaining Jeffrey Epstein records as years of delays continue fueling public suspicion and unanswered questions -- David's routine drive turns into a tense confrontation after an aggressive driver escalates a road rage incident -- On the Bonus Show: Trump's primary win streak ends in Iowa, Obama's library will open June 19, a MAGA candidate refuses to say how many people he's killed, and much more... 👕 Cozy Earth: Code PAKMAN for 40% off at https://cozyearth.com/pakman 🍴 Forkful: Get 50% off your 1st box + 10% off your next 3 boxes at https://davidpakman.com/forkful 🩳 SHEATH Underwear: Code PAKMAN for 20% OFF at https://sheathunderwear.com/pakman 🧠 Try Brain.fm totally free for a month at https://brain.fm/pakman 🤖 Sponsored by Venice: Use code PAKMAN for 20% off a Pro Account at https://venice.ai/pakman 🛌 Helix Sleep mattresses: Get 27% OFF sitewide at https://helixsleep.com/pakman -- Become a Member: https://davidpakman.com/membership -- Subscribe to our (FREE) Substack newsletter: https://davidpakman.substack.com -- Get David's Books: https://davidpakman.com/echo -- TDPS Subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/thedavidpakmanshow -- David on Bluesky: https://davidpakman.com/bluesky -- David on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow (00:00) Start (01:31) House votes to end Trump's Iran war (09:09) Trump's economy keeps getting worse (19:20) Trump goes missing for 7 days (27:31) Trump unleashes overnight Truth Social storm (37:04) Trump speaks to reporters at Oval Office (46:07) Marco Rubio confronted with Trump's sleeping (55:07) Calls continue for the Epstein files release (1:02:17) A tense road rage incident story Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:51 Now even though that's not going to immediately do it, Donald Trump woke up in a rage, flipping out at members of his own party. And this really starts to become a bigger question about the economy. We're going to take a deeper dive and look at what is happening in the economy. What are the metrics of concern and is anything going well? We'll also talk about Donald Trump being missing for seven days. Really weird timing around this physical at Walter Reed and the 11 p.m. release of his medical report and Trump in the middle of the night, nearly 1 a.m. panicking and exploding.
Starting point is 00:01:28 talk about why. Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, was also confronted with Donald Trump's sleeping videos and claimed, I don't know anything about that. And then another video of Trump's sleeping right next to Marco Rubio was played for him. This says so much about cult dynamics and politics. And then we will get back to the Epstein files. We have not forgotten about the Epstein files. I know that there are people out there who wish that we would. And also on a recent trip, I had a road rage incident. I wasn't the one raging. Someone was raging at me. I'll tell you what happened. And then you tell me who was in the right, who was in the wrong. All of that today. President Donald Trump was just hit hours ago with one of the most humiliating political defeats
Starting point is 00:02:23 of the second term. It is not getting the attention it deserves. I want to talk about it. I want to talk about the implications. What happened is that the House of Representatives just voted to rebuke Donald Trump's war with Iran. It was Democrats plus four Republicans. The resolution ends the war in Iran, except it doesn't. It's mostly symbolic. It doesn't automatically end the conflict. Trump could ignore it.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Trump could veto form a future legislation. But Donald Trump, regardless, waking up, raging about it, posting to truth social, quote, In a meaningless vote, the House voted for bad Republicans and all of the Democrats to limit my war powers right in the middle of my final negotiations to end the war with the Islamic Republic of Iran, who would do such an unpatriotic thing. They know where the negotiations stand. The Democrats are fueled by Trump derangement syndrome. They would rather have our country fail than give me.
Starting point is 00:03:31 me another of many victories. The four Republicans, that's a whole other story. They're grandstanders. They should be ashamed of themselves. Maga. Now, there's a lot here. And it is not lost on me that Trump is doing the whole. I was just about to end the war. We were just about to get the greatest deal ever. And then these four Republicans joined the Democrats and they voted for for me not to be able to do it. It reminds me of the unsubscribe trolls. I've spoken about this before. People who write into me and they go, David, I was just about to get a paid subscription. I was about to fork over my hard earned money to support you. But then you said X. You said this one thing. And now not only will I not get a paid subscription. I'm unsubscribing on YouTube. And I'm
Starting point is 00:04:24 unsubscribing on the podcast. Were these people ever subscribed? Were they really just? just about to pay after years of listening. But I said the one. It's the same thing with Trump. But the problem is, Trump has been about to end the war eight times, nine times. And in fact, this is the most ended war that there's ever been. Trump goes, I ended eight wars. Trump claims to have ended the Iran war eight times, or at least he did claim that. And then somehow it continues. So what are the important points here? The important points are, House Republicans tried to stop this vote from even taking place. They didn't even want this vote because they knew that a few of them were going to join
Starting point is 00:05:12 Democrats and saying we need to take away Trump's war powers. They weren't able to stop the vote. They weren't able to prevent themselves from losing the vote. And we know that there is significant growing frustration in Donald Trump's own party. Republicans join Democrats, but many more would have if they voted not making a political calculation, but just voting the way that they feel about this war. They have blocked part of Trump's agenda. Republicans have.
Starting point is 00:05:45 They've rejected some of his spending requests. And they are trying to move forward. Republicans are with aid for Ukraine, even though Donald Trump and his cabinet have said, no, against more war more more aid for Ukraine in this defensive war that they're fighting against Russia and now four of them have joined Democrats in this rebuke of Donald Trump's Iran war. Now I don't know how it's like the boy who cried wolf kind of thing. How many times can Trump say I've almost got a deal before we just don't believe it anymore. I stopped believing it eight claims ago. And we have a very tangible and practical energy-related situation. Oil reserves right now,
Starting point is 00:06:34 we learned this just hours ago this morning. Oil reserves are at their lowest level in more than 20 years. Since 2004, we have the lowest oil reserves level. Why? Because Donald Trump has been drawing down that strategic petroleum reserve to try to prevent oil and gas prices from spiking as much as they would have had he not released some of that petroleum. Now, I want you to remember two contradictions. Number one, the campaign of Trump, we will have lower prices. We will have cheaper energy. Gas will come down. Oil will come down. Energy will come down. Immediate relief. We've seen the opposite. So this is one area where there was a promise and a claim made and what has taken place is the opposite. Who's paying for that? Drivers, families, workers, small businesses,
Starting point is 00:07:28 anybody who needs gasoline or depends on products or services that are buoyed by gasoline, they are all suffering. Trump promised one thing we got another. But let me go in a different direction with the hypocrisy. Trump spent years attacking his former, attacking his predecessor, former president Joe Biden for doing strategic petroleum reserve releases. He said this is terrible. It's a scandal. We must investigate Biden for releasing oil from the strategic petroleum reserve. And now after saying it's going to be a three week war, we're in week 14 and all of it. After all of that, now Trump does the same thing. And he releases oil from the strategic petroleum reserve. And now all of a sudden it's good. It's to help people and mean,
Starting point is 00:08:16 Meanwhile, the economic costs just continue. The political backlash continues from left, right. Voters in November are going to have a choice to make. And to me, the most revealing part of the story is that House Republican leaders argued, if we vote on the war, it could weaken Trump's negotiating position. Think about what that means. Their argument isn't the war is going well. Their argument isn't Americans support this war. So let's let Trump carry out the will of the people.
Starting point is 00:08:48 The argument is it would look bad if we were to take a vote that says take away Trump's war powers while Donald Trump is trying again and again and again essentially to reconstitute the Obama-Iran nuclear deal, which he said was terrible. Stop talking about it because it makes Trump look bad. That's where we are right now. We were told the war would showcase American strength. And he had a plan to deal with energy shocks and it was all a lie. So Trump not totally in control of his own party, still in control of a lot of it, but not
Starting point is 00:09:28 not totally in control, watches as four members of his own party joined Democrats to rebuke him and wakes up raging. And we must now, I believe we need to assess bigger picture. We're almost in the summer. Voters are going to be making up their minds. We're only a few months from voters starting to do early voting for November. We must assess where the economy is. What exactly is happening to the economy right now?
Starting point is 00:09:57 I keep hearing from administration propagandists that the economy is phenomenal. It's just it's so good. Everything is great. But the truth is, most Americans, do not assess the state of the economy by what propagandists say. They don't go, oh, well, Caroline Levitt or whoever's filling in for her today during her maternity leave said the economy's great. Therefore, the economy is great.
Starting point is 00:10:28 It's actually a much simpler thing. It doesn't require watching TV or looking at video clips. Is your life easier financially right now than when Donald Trump took office? And think about who can answer yes to that question. The average worker cannot say that they are better off or easier in an easier financial situation today than when Donald Trump took office. They can't say that. The people that can say that are Trump's cronies and a select group of corporatists and big
Starting point is 00:10:58 business owners. That's who can say that they are doing better right now. But on every other, in every other area, we just go back to the campaign and we realize, damn it's actually people are much worse off it was a very simple set of promises gas prices weigh on the average person when they go up life is tougher so when i get into office trump said gas prices are going to come down for the average person they go to the grocery store and they pay 140 bucks and go i barely got anything i'm going to have to come back in two days for more so the promise was grocery prices will come down and it's going to ease the economic pressure on the average
Starting point is 00:11:37 American. Energy for heating your home, for example. That's a big burden on people. So we're going to bring that down. Trump promised by 50%. Housing will be more affordable. Housing is usually the biggest single expenditure for most households every month. We're going to bring that down. And then with all of that extra money that people have, the economy will boom because people will buy extra stuff and they'll travel and it'll be so prosperous and all of this stuff. We'll be sick of winning. That was the sales pitch. None of that has happened. Go ask people. And this is where I'll admit it, guys, I'm different than these magas. The magas tell you they are the source of truth. Trump tells you, don't believe what you are hearing and seeing. Just listen to me. I'll tell you
Starting point is 00:12:21 what's going on. I don't say that. I go, go ask people, go talk to people. Go to a gas station and ask people, how is their monthly budget? Go to the grocery store. Talk to people when they're coming out and say, how do you feel about the value you're getting, this bag of groceries you're walking out with? Go ask people about their electric bill or their homeowners insurance bill in many states or how's your mortgage payment. How easily are you making your car loan payment this month? And if you put aside the things that Trump and Caroline Levitt say and just go talk to people,
Starting point is 00:12:56 you will see that people are exhausted. People are increasingly behind on mortgages and car loans and credit card payments, as we have talked about. Household debt keeps going up. People are charging more on their credit cards, not because things are going so well, but because prices are up. And people can't afford to pay a lot of these things off every single month. And so this is a major political problem. Now just, what are we? Oh, like five months to the day from the midterms.
Starting point is 00:13:25 people didn't vote for Trump because what they wanted was a slate of cronies and and lap dogs telling them how great the economy is. They voted for him because they wanted and believed that things were going to cost less. And those are very different things. Hearing from Kevin Hassett and Scott Besson that everything's awesome is different than actually believing and experiencing that things are good economically. And even if you, it's not like the economic reports are good, but if you can find some obscure metric or statistic and say, look, it's all great. People aren't going to fall for that.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Now, there are a whole bunch of other warning signs in the economy that are not getting a lot of attention. One is that tourism to the United States has declined. Businesses are reporting slower demand. job growth has cooled in a whole bunch of sectors. We were going to, we were promised a manufacturing jobs boom and instead we don't have it. Employment in manufacturing is as low as it's been in six years, I believe. And there are hundreds of thousands of factory jobs available that are not being filled. In other industries, employers are being really cautious. Consumers are being cautious. They're behaving
Starting point is 00:14:46 in a worried way. And when we talk about consumer, confidence. Sometimes we hear that phrase and we go, oh, it's a metric. It's a point on a chart. That's all it is. Consumer confidence is what it literally signifies. Are people confident in this economy? Are they confident buying? Are they confident taking out a mortgage, maybe for a more expensive property? And that confidence comes from the expectation of what the economy will do in the future. In a bunch of polling between 70 and 80% of the country says, I don't believe the economy will be better in a year. Much of the American, what would we call it? Not the American dream. Much of the American experience is based on the concept that you believe things will keep getting better. Sometimes it's a rational belief or
Starting point is 00:15:33 sometimes it's not. Most of the country doesn't believe things are going to get better economically, at least not in the next year. So in a sense, we could say there are two economies. There's the TV economy presented by people in the administration. And there's the economy that people live every day. And so that means looking at your credit card statement, what do all of the things that I need for my life cost? The political problem is going to become very present for this administration in November. And if the central promise, which I believe it was, if the central promise of the 2024 campaign was things will get cheaper, easier, and better, and there's going to be a boom, we have to ask the question, what happened. Again, don't take my word for it. I'm just a person trying to parse what I see out there.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Go and ask people or ask yourselves the question. And what we were promised is not what we got. Now, I believe that this is the message that has to be communicated to people. Not let me feed you alternative propaganda to what the administration is giving you. It's you're smart enough to decide for yourself. That's a key difference between the pro-democracy people like us and the authoritarian people like Trump. In order to keep building this pro-democracy movement, we're doing a one-day membership drive on Tuesday. We will be dramatically discounting annual subscriptions to lock in another year of doing what we need to do. We have a great staff that lets me do this show, distributes the content, edits the videos, finds the sponsors, all of these
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Starting point is 00:20:13 Kind of like the Trump sniffing. Take a deep breath and imagine the following. An old white male president who has his third physical exam in 13 months comes out of it claiming that it's a perfect physical and they're going to publish the report within a day. It doesn't get published within a day, but three days later, at 11 p.m. on a Friday, they published the report. The report is clearly a bogus propaganda document, making outrageous claims about the oldest president ever's incredible health. And in the middle of this, he's missing for seven days from being on camera. What would the reaction be? Well, the answer is, it depends
Starting point is 00:21:01 who the old white president is. If it were Biden, the reaction from Republicans would be 24-7 insanity for a week. We deserve to know why did he have three physicals in three in 13 months and then bury the report on a Friday night at 11 p.m. and then disappears suspiciously for seven days only posting to social media. That's what would happen if it were Biden. But it's Trump And instead, it doesn't even make a headline. They don't even talk about it in the right wing media ecosystem. And then Trump finally does resurface and he looks and sounds brutally tired and haggard. Here is Donald Trump in the Oval Office resurfacing after seven days from being missing.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Coming in, we're cracked down on counterfeas. This is good for America. This is good for the people that elected you. It's good for the claim. And we have fentanyl coming in 59% less. And we have fentanyl coming in 59% less. Cut it by a number that nobody's though is even possible. We're going to get it a lot lower than that. Now, some of you, I already know have noticed that Donald Trump's eye is even more swollen than normal. I know I've been talking about that right eye being almost completely swollen shut for years. But other people are now noticing and many of you are noticing. Let me come back to that.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Don't if you thought that that was not going to be noticed by our team, well, just wait. And then Trump at one point pulling out a chart, which bizarrely compares the length of a pool to the heights of buildings. I don't know who asked for that comparison. Listen to Donald Trump's voice here. This is with his right eye almost completely swollen shut and making no sense. I just had this done. You're getting a first glimpse, but you're getting the first glimpse. That's your size compared.
Starting point is 00:23:04 So those are compared to, those are among the tallest buildings in the world, including the Empire State Building, World Trade Center, Sears Tower, Chicago. So if you lay it on its side, you'd take two or three of them to fill it in, because the width is very, almost 200,000. almost 200 feet wide. Now aside from Donald Trump looking and sounding extremely rough, how is it relevant to compare buildings height when placed on their side to a pool? I'm so sorry to make such a crass analogy.
Starting point is 00:23:46 It's sort of like a guy who's not feeling super confident about the size of his manhood, the, you know, the thing. And going, listen, if you place it on its side and compare it to the size of an ant, this thing is massive. And then you go, yeah, but who cares about the size of the ant? This thing is longer, longer than the empire state building is tall. Right. But who cares?
Starting point is 00:24:14 What is that? Does that justify a $13 million no bid contract to paint the bottom of the reflecting pool? Sorry, I'm getting off track. Like Donald Trump has said before. He goes, don't pay attention to what you are hearing and seeing. Well, we're seeing Trump and he looks very rough. And we're hearing Trump and he sounds extremely rough. Now, as far as this reflecting pool thing, I, Senator Elizabeth Warren actually said it very well
Starting point is 00:24:44 yesterday. She said gas prices are up. Food prices are up. Healthcare costs are up. And Trump is showing off the size of his pool. Now, I think that the most important kind of. framing here as we think about why was Trump missing seven days again is that presidents are public figures the presidency is a visual job there might have been a time especially before the sort of media
Starting point is 00:25:11 environment that we have right now in technological status quo where the job really was more about sitting in closed rooms designing policy signing paw lobbying to have that law that policy made law etc. That's still part of the job, but it's also a very visual job. We constantly see the president now. The president is boarding a helicopter. The president is greeting foreign leaders. The president is walking up the big stairs to Air Force One. And we know that Trump's administration knows this. They understand the value of constant visibility because when Trump is seemingly well and able to do it, he's on camera all the time. And so by the very standard, that they've established, suddenly he's missing for a week after another physical and another
Starting point is 00:26:02 dental visit and another propaganda medical document. Of course, people are going to ask questions. And what's notable is that last time this happened, there were a lot of these, oh, you're all being so conspiratorial type claims. There's a lot less of that this time. Why was he missing for seven days? Now, it's also a reality. We've seen the pictures.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Presidents age rapidly when they're in office. It happened to Reagan. It happened to Bill Clinton. Bush, we saw it very visibly with Barack Obama's hair turned completely white. It even happened to Joe Biden. The idea that the oldest president ever, 10 days from now, he'll be 80, is immune from aging, is absurd on its face. And the fact that the White House seems to be establishing that standard is part of why they've gotten into this problem in the first place. They have established an impossible standard for themselves and for Trump.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Maybe nothing happened during those seven days. Maybe something happened. There's people talking about stroke. I don't believe we have evidence of a stroke. We definitely have a lot of suspicious stuff, but I don't think we have evidence to say a stroke took place. I don't know. What I do know is that the people who spent years demanding complete and total transparency from President Joe Biden. Biden don't want any questions asked about Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:27:22 And just zoom out again. If Biden was missing seven days and he reappeared with his right under eye swollen like it's filled with some kind of putty speaking like this and comparing the side, the length of a pool to the height of a building, there would be a lot. Hannity would be going constitutional crisis. Here's Lindsey Graham. Lindsay, what do you think? Oh, we got to get rid of this guy right now.
Starting point is 00:27:54 He can't do it. It would be 24-7. And they don't want any of it. And this was all before what happened at close to one in the morning last night. Hopefully you were sleeping. I know I was. But Donald Trump was awake. And what took place only adds to the concerns.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Let's take a look. at 1238 a.m. This morning, I guess we would say last night. It depends how you want to define it. Donald Trump panicked and started pushing bonkers conspiracy theories. Cuckoo for cocoa puffs. Okay. Absolutely outrageous to the point where again, people are using the S word, not swollen. Yes, Trump, half his body swollen. I know. I'm talking about the word stroke. Terrified and panicking, Donald Trump posts at 1238 a.m. this morning, quote, if you add
Starting point is 00:28:55 the largest tax and regulation cuts in U.S. history, $5,000 to $10,000 per family, coupled with falling prices across the board from the sleepy Joe Biden years, Trump and the Republicans win the affordability wars by record numbers. Now, as you can imagine, there are two stories here. Story one is just about everything that he argues in this post is a lie. Five to $10,000 per family in cuts from the latest tax bill. That's a big lie. And especially if you make under $75,000 a year, you're not getting $5 to $10,000 for your family. Very untrue. Number two, prices are not falling across the board. If inflation is more than zero, prices are going up. Now, you could make the case that the rate at which prices are climbing has diminished. That was true for a little bit,
Starting point is 00:29:53 except now year over year inflation is back up to 3.8 percent, which is the most of Donald Trump's second term and even more than what we saw a lot during Donald Trump's first term. But that doesn't really matter. But we know that prices are up and the promise was that they were going to come down. gases up, groceries are up, utilities are up. It's all up since Donald Trump took office. Why? Because inflation is more than zero. Unless you see a negative number for inflation, prices are going up. That's important. Now, a lot of this is optional. You know, the gas price stuff, it's thanks to Trump's war with Iran. But I think that there's another layer to this, which is why is Trump posting about this stuff at 1238 a.m. aside from the lies, why is he doing this?
Starting point is 00:30:42 And again, you need only think of how they'd be reacting if this were Biden. If Biden were regularly posting agitated screeds to social media in the middle of the night and the ones that we're going to get to a couple of other posts later, which were posted even later, one of them 10 minutes later, another 20 something minutes later, people would be saying what is wrong with the president? What is wrong with Biden that he's posting in the middle of the night? Biden wasn't doing that Trump is. And there is silence or they frame it as a great thing.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Look at how energetic he is. He's working for the American people at all hours of the day. I would argue posting adjut trash to truth social at 1 a.m. isn't really working for the American people. It's working for his own image. Now, if we look at approval on inflation and on the economy, we see that voters are not falling for it. That's why Trump is panicking. We started the show today talking about the economic.
Starting point is 00:31:36 crisis, according to an Ipsos poll conducted in late May, only 29% of Americans approve of Trump's handling of the economy. That is a disastrous number for a Republican, where Republicans supposedly and historically have been seen as the most reliable and trustworthy stewards of the economy. Even when in, think about this, when inflation was 9% at the peak of the COVID pandemic during Joe Biden's presidency. Biden's approval on the economy was still higher than it is for Donald Trump right now. I believe that Americans overall aren't stupid. We did fail a national IQ test when we elected Trump twice.
Starting point is 00:32:20 But remember that not everybody votes, only about a quarter of those who are eligible to vote actually did vote. But when you simply say to Americans, hey, do you believe that everything's going really well? And what about during COVID? Americans knew inflation was high when Biden was president at the beginning because it was high globally because of COVID. Right now, Americans understand, to a degree, inflation is rising because of the choices that Donald Trump has made. Biden didn't choose for COVID to happen.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Trump chose to go into Iran. There's another survey from Marquette Law School. There's a Harris-Harris-X poll and an economist UGov poll. They all have Trump totally underwater. on inflation. Minus 56 in the Marquette poll, minus 30 in the Harris poll, and minus 48 in the economist, you gov poll. Trump has regularly said, I don't care about the midterms. Well, let's make it a reality that not caring about the midterms and desecrating the American economy is bad for these people. Now, a couple bonus posts, these also coming in the middle of the night,
Starting point is 00:33:27 Donald Trump posting a bonkers conspiracy theory where he said, quote, the Democrats are at it again. They are trying to steal the governor of California primary and the mayor of Los Angeles primary away from two great Republican candidates. Here we go with the very late and massive numbers of mail and ballots. As many of you know, the mail and ballots often come in close to election day and regularly are counted towards the end of the process. That is not evidence of any wrongdoing. and Donald Trump pushing further with yet another post, this one coming this morning at 1.5 a.m. Totally normal. There's big cheating by the Democrats in California. Votes are all tied up, may not be in for weeks, under investigation by the U.S. Attorney's Office in Los Angeles. Why the vote counting delay?
Starting point is 00:34:26 Here's my reaction to this, and I'll delve into this more deeply later in the show. No matter how much Trump screams about mail and ballots, he voted by mail just months ago. Don't forget that. We're not going to forget about the Epstein files. And we are not going to be convinced that the economy is different than what it is. We'll evaluate the economy. We will look at prices. We have the ability to discern for ourselves what is taking place here.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Telling people the economy was awesome didn't work for Biden. It didn't work for Harris. It doesn't work if it's not what people see. And I don't believe that it's going to work for Donald Trump. I think that they're going to get crushed in November. But there's a reason he's up at 1 a.m. posting about this stuff because he's right to be panicked because it is not going well. And Americans know it.
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Starting point is 00:38:13 wondering, how is it that he keeps saying the Iran war is basically over and he's ended the war eight times? How is that possible? And it's very simple. The ceasefire is the fighting continues. If you define it that way, we've got a ceasefire in that the fighting won't stop. How can you find ceasefire? Pretty much the way it is. It's a different part of the world. You're not saying that part of the world, ceasefires when you're shooting in a more moderate manner. Moderate fighting and shooting is a ceasefire.
Starting point is 00:38:46 It's so funny to me how these right wingers for a long time, and it's sort of been led by people like Jordan Peterson, argued the left has a post-modernism problem. They believe anything can mean anything. Everyone's opinion, no matter how uninformed is valid. By the way, I'm on the left. I don't believe any of this stuff. But this is what they've argued. They just take anything and make it mean whatever, whatever they want, as Jordan Peterson
Starting point is 00:39:14 would say. And then Trump goes, well, a ceasefire is when there's fighting. Really? I would love to see any definition, dictionary, a political definition, any definition that says ceasefire means fighting. continues. Trump does not have any real control over what words mean. And by control, I don't mean that he gets to decide. He seems completely disconnected from the meaning of words. That's why he's spitting out these random words and we say, what is he talking about? It just in his mind means
Starting point is 00:39:48 whatever he wants it to mean. Now, a really, really nasty moment took place. As you all know, Trump's favorite targets are female reporters who ask him real questions and attempt to hold him to account and say, hey, you've got to answer as president for some of the nonsense you've said and some of the nonsense that you're doing. So Caitlin Collins asks real questions and Trump attacks her. Take a look at this nasty stuff. And we'll believe it because they knew what was going on their crooked as hell. CNN's a very corrupt organization, but with a corrupt reporter standing right there, never smiles.
Starting point is 00:40:31 She never sees a young, beautiful woman, never smiles. I never see a smile off her face. I see her standing there with hatred in her eyes like she has hatred because we have. By the way, what Trump means is she's standing there working and there's no obvious reason to start giggling like a schoolgirl, which is apparently, Trump wants this. Mr. Trump, how are you so? good. This is I might maybe that sounds more like Michael Jackson. I struggle to Trump wants that. He has this stereotypical misogynistic view. They they should be dressed a certain way and they
Starting point is 00:41:08 should address Trump a certain way. He's so nice, Mr. President. And that's not reporting. Borders because we have a strong military because we cut our taxes because we do things that everybody wanted. And then we win our election in a massive landslide. We win 87% of the counties in this country. Nobody's ever heard of a thing like that. And that's because we're doing the right job. And we took a detour down to Iran because we can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon under any circumstances. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Anyway, so he doesn't like that Caitlin Collins isn't smiling and isn't doing all of the, all of the different stuff. Then he goes back at Caitlin Collins again, as you may have heard. heard this $1.8 billion slush fund that Trump assigned himself seems to be dead. Caitlin Collins asks about it and he goes, what happened to you? You used to be, you used to be a conservative from Alabama. Just to clarify on what you asked earlier, is the $1.8 billion do you have to fund dead or is it on hold? It's, uh, I'd have to ask the lawyers.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I don't know. I know one thing, the weaponization. Are you talking about the weaponization? The weaponization fund, as far as I'm concerned, was a beautiful thing. It was something I didn't make it, but I was, I heard that. I thought that was the greatest thing because people like you have abused our people so badly. The fake news. Caitlin Collins asking questions is proof that January 6th rioters need to be given cash.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Boy, that is some logic, huh? Like CNN, like the New York Times and like others, have abused our people. minute, be quiet, have abused our people so badly and you should be ashamed of yourself. You used to be a conservative. She was a conservative from Alabama. Can you believe it? But CNN in particular, CNN. I like that.
Starting point is 00:43:04 I'm still, you used to be from Alabama. Well, I'm still from Alabama. So, okay, Trump very much doesn't like that. Then Trump gets into this whole thing of the Democrats, D-U-M, because a lot of people didn't know that dumb has a silent bee there. which means Trump didn't know that. And Trump goes, now they're saying my deal is like the Obama deal. But it is very much not like the Obama deal. Obama right. Take a listen.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Ron nuclear deal penned by Barack Hussein Obama is one of the dumbest deals I've ever seen. And this has no relation to say Obama is one of the dumbest deals I've ever seen. And this has no relation. I like these morons, these Democrats, D-U-M-D-U-M-D-U-M-D. that go on television and say, oh, well, this is just like the Obama did. This is the exact opposite. This is no path to a nuclear weapon. That was a absolute path to a nuclear weapon that you couldn't have done anything about. Anyway, Trump desper.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Trump sees the writing on the wall. The best that he can hope to do right now is to put together a deal. That would be like the Obama nuclear deal. deal, but realistically not as good and not as strong. And so what he is left to do is to say it would be nothing like that, except, of course, it would. It just wouldn't have Obama's name on it. It would seek to control and limit the level of enrichment of uranium that Iran can do. It would deal with releasing some sanctioned money to the Iranians, which the Obama deal did. And Trump was hugely critical of that when it happened. And so were other Republicans.
Starting point is 00:44:51 It would be the best that Trump can hope to do is to put back in place something like the Iran nuclear deal. At another moment, really just pathetic moment, Trump begs a reporter to compliment the post he put on truth social. Today you have some stern words on communism on. I just wrote that. Did you like it? Did you think it was well written? Well, certainly very meaningful to a lot of Americans. Well, I agree.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Do you want to read it? Do you have it? You can read it some truth. I just wrote it. I just felt I've seen what's going. with communism and I see this kind of read it. I'd love to have you. You wrote that quote.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Communists always do well with the voters or as they would say the people in the early years. But in the end. All right. So anyway, Trump forces a reporter to read his truth social post. And then finally in Trump's infinite egot mania, he says, you know, I've given speeches just like Martin Luther King. In fact, I had more people than Martin Luther King.
Starting point is 00:45:51 people. And that's where Martin Luther King made his great speech. The million people. I had the same amount of people. Actually, I had a little bit tighter. It was a little bit tighter. They said he had a million people and I had 25,000 people. And yet if you look at the picture of comparison, the exact same location, the exact same pool, except now the pool is slain. It was filthy, dirty then. But it was amazing because that was my first glimpse into politics. I made a speech and I had more people. In other words, you put the picture side by side, which we have. And he said, I had 25,000.
Starting point is 00:46:26 He had a million, but there were more people. They were tied. My people were tighter. But these are minor details. That's what I said, well, wait a minute. Minor details. I mean, listen, it's all completely untrue. And who cares about the truth at the end of the day?
Starting point is 00:46:38 Minor details. And by the way, the quality of the speech, you can just imagine Trump's speech quality is so high. Seven days missing and he resurfaces for this. I think we're right to be worried, my friend. Secretary of State Marco Rubio was confronted with video of Donald Trump sleeping. Now you might say to yourself, oh boy, if he is shown a video of Trump sleeping, he will have no choice. He will have to say, yes, he was asleep.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Yes, I bored him to death and he fell asleep while I was talking. You would think he would have no choice in that scenario. But no, Marco Rubio just goes, I don't know anything about that. Congressman Ted Lou played for Marco Rubio a video of Donald Trump sleeping while Rubio was trying to talk to him during a cabinet meeting. And Marco Rubio goes, I've never seen him fall asleep. So Ted Lou plays another video of Trump sleeping. And Marco Rubio does not acknowledge reality.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Take a look at this. You have been at multiple meetings with President Trump. In a moment, I'm going to show you a video of one of these meetings. It is from last December. It's a cabinet meeting. I'm going to ask you to focus on President Trump and you will see that he is sleeping while you're talking. Please show the video.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Products they make and what American farmers grow and produce. So right now there's a video of the cabinet meeting for those who are just listening today. Marco Rubio is sitting to Trump's right. He's probably 10 inches, shoulder to shoulder 10 inches between them. And Trump is asleep. That's a fair shot to be sold around the world. world on issue after issue that's been the case you talk about four and eight reforms this is
Starting point is 00:48:26 not our money this is taxpayer money secretary rubio have you been at more than one meeting where president trump has fallen asleep that's false that's false i've never seen him fall asleep on the contrary the guy doesn't sleep which is a big problem because he calls me at two in the morning he calls me at five in the morning and you know i like to sleep a little bit maybe not 12 hours or spent at least six. So he works, the other day he was at the Oval Office until 12.30 p.m. 12.30 a.m. I don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Secretary Rubio, I'm going to show you at a moment a video that shows you just lied to Congress. Oh, okay. So this is a video of a cabinet meeting literally from last month where Donald Trump is sleeping while you're talking. Please show this video. A coalition of countries that line up behind the peace deal, behind- We now have video from another cabinet meeting, as Ted Lou points out, this one's last month,
Starting point is 00:49:20 and Trump is asleep again. The board of peace, and it's still not every day is a challenge, but it's been driven personally by the president. It's the reason why we're involved in this whole Ukraine, Russia conflict. That's not our war. It's not the president's war. This war started. It never would have happened if you've been president.
Starting point is 00:49:35 But this war is going on, and the president is trying to end it. You are literally talking about issues of war and peace, and Donald Trump is sleeping right next to you. No, he's not. If Donald Trump cannot stay awake at these important meetings where the cameras are rolling, imagine what he's like when the cameras are not there. Now, a lot of you wrote to me about this clip and said, David, why even try when the video exists? Marco Rubio knows the video exists. Marco Rubio knows that Trump is sleeping. Why would he even try to deny it? Well, let me get to that because the funniest part is that Marco Rubio was not asked to defend a complicated foreign policy position, for example, and he could argue one way or the other and it's sort of a
Starting point is 00:50:28 disagreement on ideas. He was essentially asked, do your eyes work? Rubio suspects that the evidence doesn't matter for the people they are dealing with. We on the left and a lot of independence and many Republicans. We know what it looks like when humans are sleeping. We have developed and evolved to identify that is a sleeping human. But Rubio isn't concerned with that because the people that they need, which is this hardcore magabase, evidence doesn't matter for them. And what does matter is that there's this culture and expectation of mandatory lying in the Trump administration. This is what happens inside of Trump world. They all understand there are certain. things you are not allowed to admit. We might call this magical thinking. We might call this lying
Starting point is 00:51:19 for what they perceived to be the greater good. Think back, in fact, to after the 2020 election, we had a lot of discussions on the show about polling, which found that a majority of Republicans had come to believe, yes, Trump really did win the 2020 election. Biden stole it. He didn't win it. They came to believe that. And one of the conversations we had was, do they literally believe that? or do they believe that that's what you're supposed to say? And for a lot of the people who were saying Trump really did win 2020, they didn't believe it as a matter of fact. They knew in cults, you know, there are certain things you're not allowed to admit. You're not allowed to admit Trump has made a mistake. Trump never admits he made a mistake. You're not allowed to admit
Starting point is 00:52:02 Trump is confused. You're not allowed to admit Trump is tired. You're not allowed to admit Trump fell asleep or that he's aging or that he may not be as healthy as his propaganda medical documents claim if a Biden cabinet secretary had been shown video of Biden sleeping and said I've never seen him asleep and then was showed another video of Biden sleeping and not only are they shown the video they're next to Biden in the video and they go nope Fox News would run it for a year they would have hearings they would call it a cover up the issue is becoming the denial more than the sleep self. Trump's falling asleep multiple times a week at this point. That's not the notable part. The broader approach to the denial of Trump's sleeping and health stuff, the cognitive test
Starting point is 00:52:46 obsessions and the claims of perfect health, that's really becoming the bigger story. And when you think about that, you might initially say, how could Rubio deny something that's on video? Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Marco Rubio's body language is increasingly of how dare you ask me about this. The cabinet meetings themselves are absurd. People take turns praising Trump. That's all that they do. If they will deny something visible on video, what won't they deny? There's nothing they won't deny. Rubio understands the assignment. You simply don't acknowledge reality. And there are still probably tens of millions of Trump supporters who are on board with denying reality. Scary state of affairs for the country. That's for sure. Think of how much
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Starting point is 00:56:25 We're not going to let it disappear. And one of the things that's been taking place over the last couple of months as we are now at war and there are so many different things happening simultaneously is that coverage of the Epstein files and web traffic, web searches for the Epstein files have gone down dramatically. Every once in a while, there's a we're still working on it. The Epstein files are going to come out. Maybe it's after the election. We want this story resolved once and for all so we can evaluate who are the. the alleged wrongdoers? What is the statute of limitations on their alleged crimes? Is it time for criminal referrals? We want the transparency that's been promised to us for years. That's what I mean
Starting point is 00:57:07 by ending the story. We have been dealing with this for years now. We've been told the truth is around the corner and the files are coming and the list is coming. The bombshell is coming. And then when the people in the Trump administration get a shot at it, former AG Pam Bondi or whoever, they go, I don't really think there are files. There's really no list. I don't really have anything. I don't, I certainly don't have anything on my desk. No, there's no more criminal referrals coming. There's no more indictments coming. And then we remember, okay, yeah, so we haven't actually gotten the files yet. And then it just kind of evaporates for a little while. And every couple months, there's another promise. Every few months, there's another delay and another explanation for
Starting point is 00:57:50 why it would still be really dangerous for the public to see everything and people are getting tired of it. What happened recently is very, very telling. As the kind of attention, the collective attention started to drift away from the Epstein files and the new cycle moved on, new controversies appeared and the people in power are really hoping that they can just wait us out. That cannot happen. We cannot forget the Epstein files and we should not stop talking about them. We need to be demanding daily. We need to conclude the transparency that was promised with actual transparency. Release all of it. Redact what really has to be redacted to protect victims and let the public see it. Now, one of the really interesting data points that should be illuminating
Starting point is 00:58:45 for us in how the people in power are thinking about this is that the rules of the Epstein file transparency act that was signed state that redactions should be to protect victims. And yet we still got redactions protecting alleged perpetrators. That is not the transparency that we were promised for years, for years. Now, if it were up to Trump, we would never. have seen anything and we would never see anything. A lot of the people that are now in power controlling a lot of the access to these files suggested before they were in power that once they are in power, we're finally going to get transparency. They criticized that the files hadn't
Starting point is 00:59:34 been released. They criticized the delays. Why won't Biden this or that? And yet as they got closer and closer to power, people like Cash Patel, Dan Bongino, who was deputy director of the FBI, but quit to go back to podcasting. Even Trump himself in a famous Fox News interview said, well, the Epstein files, I'm not as sure about those. And so now that they're in charge, where the hell are the files and the transparency that was even legally required and they are still flouting. At a certain point, the secrecy is the story. Now, it is conceivable. And I've said before, I want to follow the facts. It's conceivable that there is not anything particularly dramatic in the unreleased material.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I know that there are people in my audience convinced the Epstein files will implicate Trump in crimes. I don't know about that. I think we should be cautious and only make claims that we can back up with facts. And right now, I can't back up that there are definitive evidences of Trump's criminality. Now, I know some of you are aware of a document that talks about someone who called and said, oh, 20 years earlier, I was on a yacht with Epstein. A lot of that is not proven. And circumstantially, some of it doesn't make sense. We need to be careful about what we conclude. But we can only conclude accurately if we get the files. And there's this vacuum of secrecy that understandably fills with speculation. Now, I don't know how bad what's in the files really is for Trump. Maybe it's about his friends. Maybe it's about people around him.
Starting point is 01:01:11 I don't know. But he must also be making a calculation. If I'm going to go this hard against releasing the full files, there must be some reason for it. And it may be about what's in there about Trump or it may be about other people. The best antidote to all of this, I believe, is transparency. And there's a real difference between Democrats and Republicans on this because Democrats have been put in this position of, well, Bill Clinton might be in there.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Bill Clinton might be implicated in all sorts of criminality. I don't think he is, but if that's the case, I want to know it because I'm not a cult member. I can evaluate Clinton's presidency during the 90s and separately say, if there's skeletons in Bill Clinton's closet, I want those closet doors opened and I want lights shined inside of those closets. But it might implicate other Democrats. I don't care. Just release the files and let the consequences be what they are.
Starting point is 01:02:12 I have no greater interest in covering up crimes by a Democrat than I have in covering up crimes by a Republican. It doesn't make a difference to me. So we're not going to forget about the Epstein files. We're not going to move on from the Epstein files. We're not dropping the story of the Epstein files. We're demanding that they be released. release whatever can be legally released.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Stop teasing it. Stop delaying it. Stop promising it. Give us transparency and let law enforcement consider. Are there crimes here? Are there crimes here that have not expanded beyond the statute of limitations? Should there be indictments? Pam Bondi, the former AG, saying there won't be any more indictments.
Starting point is 01:02:55 That's not good enough. Release the files first. We're not going to forget about it. and then we will decide. That's my approach. I was in a dangerous road rage incident a few days ago. I want to tell you about it. What I want you to tell me is, did I deserve it? Did I deserve it? I was driving up to Montreal a few days ago. And on the way up, I did the responsible thing. You know, I have an electric vehicle. I could have made it all the way to Montreal without charging. I could have done it. And it would have been interesting.
Starting point is 01:03:29 But my car was telling me, you're only going to have 8% battery left when you get to Montreal. And, you know, it can get hilly on the way up to Montreal. I've got two kids in the car. It wouldn't be responsible of me to avoid a 10 minute charging stop to guarantee that I have no issue getting to Montreal without running out of battery while risking the possibility of ending up stranded with a couple of kids. I wouldn't want that. That would be terrible. So I did the responsible thing and I said, we don't need to do it. Legally, I can keep going. But I'm going to stop for to charge for 10 minutes. And it was in an area unknown to me. There were chargers inside of one of these like outdoor mall things, you know, where there's like a a dick sporting goods and this sort of thing. But it's outdoor, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:24 you part, I don't even know what it's called at this point, a shopping, an outdoor shopping center or whatever. As I'm about to enter the shopping center, I was under the impression that both lanes can go straight. But it turned out when I got to the red light that I was in the lane to only go right, but I wanted to go straight. So I committed what I guess would be called an infraction. When the light went from red to green, I just zoomed ahead of the first car in the lane that goes straight. There was no risk of an accident. I was nowhere close to the vehicle. I just zoomed ahead and made my way to the charger.
Starting point is 01:05:05 It was one of these like their stop signs every hundred feet and a bunch of cars are sort of slowly winding their way through. I get into the charging stall. I get out of the car. I walk over to the thing and I plug it into my car. And at this point, I look over and in the charging spot next to me, pulls in this massive SUV. And I think I hear an engine running. So I go, it's kind of weird. It doesn't seem like the type of car that would need a charger, but I think it has nothing to do
Starting point is 01:05:37 with me whatsoever. Let people do whatever they want. They're not blocking me from charging. They're doing whatever they want. And as I turn around, there's a guy five feet away from me. And he starts yelling. And he goes, hey, do you know you just cut my wife off? and then whipped through the parking lot and I go, oh, I'm so sorry. Where did this happen? And he goes at that red light, you cut her off. I look over. This huge SUV that's gas powered is parked there.
Starting point is 01:06:12 The wife is in the driver's seat. So this guy clearly was riding passenger and he is now confronting me. I am immediately thinking to myself, if you're willing to do this, you might not be stable. This is not someone I want to get into a shouting match with. I want to deescalate. I'm sort of like properly trained police, right? I'm not thinking of let's take out a gun. I'm thinking let's deescalate.
Starting point is 01:06:38 This guy seems really agitated. And I go, oh, I'm so sorry. Are you talking about where I was in the right turn lane and I was going to go and he interrupts me. He goes and whipping through this parking lot, we don't need that. And at this point, I'm thinking to myself, well, you know, if this were a normal conversation. I would say to this guy, I don't think anybody was whipping through the parking lot. Traffic was crawling. There's stop signs every hundred feet. But I know, I know that this is not a stable person. This is not someone you want to get into an escalated situation with. So I go,
Starting point is 01:07:12 you know, I'm sorry that I upset you. And he goes, terrible idea and turns around to walk away. At this point, I go and look in my car just to make sure that we're actually charging. And then I hear my girlfriend say, were you following us? And he goes, that's right. And the whole thing starts over again. And I go, oh, no, you do not. This is not the type of person. First of all, who knows if this guy even has a gun? Who knows if this guy's stable? In my two decades driving, I've probably been involved in hundreds of incidents like this where someone goes straight when you're supposed to go right. And you just go, oh, they maybe shouldn't have done that. You don't follow them through a parking lot and confront them. So I'm just hoping that this guy turns around.
Starting point is 01:07:58 So I go around and the guy basically yells him in. He goes, you got to get your wife under control. Had it been a different scenario, it might have been funny to say, I'm not married. I don't know who you're talking about, but this guy was not going to hear that. So eventually he gets back into his car and he screams some obscenities at me and then ultimately drives away. Now, my instinct is always, you got to deescalate. You just don't know who's who.
Starting point is 01:08:25 And this is why I am always of the approach. If I'm on a subway, if I'm on an airplane, the last thing I'm going to do is start yelling at people. Who knows who's going to follow to you to your car or who the hell knows? Fortunately, we only needed to charge 10 minutes because I was like, is this guy going to get a crew of who knows who? it was a sort of like lumberjacky rural type guy with this massive SUV in a, you know, rural upstate part could have been anything.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Fortunately, the guy did not come back at least within those 10 minutes and then we were able to get out of there. Now, here's my question to you. I acknowledge I committed, I guess what would be called a traffic infraction. Like I went straight in a right only lane. But did it warrant that level of confrontation from the guy? Am I in the wrong? Did I deserve to be accosted verbally in this way?
Starting point is 01:09:29 Or is it maybe a little bit much? I've been on the receiving end of similar situations. Like I said, hundreds of times in my time driving. And, you know, unfamiliar area. Sometimes you just, oh, I'm in the wrong lane. Let me see how I can figure this out. Tell me, am I in the wrong? Was the guy's behavior outrageous?
Starting point is 01:09:50 Was I right to try to de-escalate? I want to hear from you. We've got a great bonus show for you today. Donald Trump's primary endorsement winning streak has come to an end. We will take a first look at the Obama presidential center and a MAGA candidate refuses to say how many people he has killed. It is a wacky bonus show. All of those stories and more. Sign up at join packman.com.

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