The David Pakman Show - The brain rot cannot be hidden any longer

Episode Date: August 20, 2026

-- On the Show: -- Donald Trump sees his influence diminish as 12 primary candidates lose, including Rep.Cory Mills in Florida, after receiving his endorsement -- Donald Trump announces unprecedente...d economic sanctions against any foreign entity providing commercial support to Iran -- Senator Darline Graham admits her ignorance regarding national security issues before attempting to distract voters with the culture war -- Donald Trump rambles outside the White House while promoting a corporate sponsor and making false claims about international waters -- Donald Trump appears physically exhausted and disoriented while struggling to remain awake during a public address at the White House -- Natalie Harp has worked inside the White House without proper security clearance for over a year due to presidential intervention -- Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez reflects on progressive social justice movements while addressing the political failures of extreme rhetoric -- White House adviser Stephen Miller spreads false economic claims on Fox News regarding gasoline prices and national inflation rates -- On the Bonus Show: The US national debt reaches $40 trillion, the Trump administration is undoing worker heat protections, and much more... 🥐 Wildgrain: Use code PAKMAN for $30 off & free croissants FOR LIFE at https://wildgrain.com/pakman 📖 Bullies, Parasites & Slaves: Text PAKMAN to 511511 or go to https://bps.online 🛡️ Incogni lets you control your personal data! Get 60% off their annual plan: http://incogni.com/pakman ⚠️ Ground News: Get 40% OFF their unlimited access Vantage plan at https://ground.news/pakman -- Become a Member: https://davidpakman.com/membership -- Subscribe to our (FREE) Substack newsletter: https://davidpakman.substack.com -- Get David's Book: https://bit.ly/m/attention -- TDPS Subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/thedavidpakmanshow -- David on Bluesky: https://davidpakman.com/bluesky -- David on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow (00:00) Start (01:10) Trump's endorsements keep losing (08:44) Trump announces Iran-linked sanctions (17:44) Darline Graham shifts to culture war issues (25:22) Trump praises corporate sponsor (34:45) Trump struggles to stay awake again (44:17) Natalie Harp worked without clearance (50:08) AOC reflects on progressive movements (58:33) Stephen Miller spreads false economic data Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:38 Donald Trump's supposedly unbeatable endorsement failed three times on Tuesday and he immediately pretended I never supported any of these losers. Now as the Iran war drags on, we see the administration threatening economic warfare just against random countries around the world without even explaining what it means or what happens when they retaliate. And a Trump endorsed senator sort of accidentally explained MAGA brain rot as Donald Trump's closest aid raises serious security concerns. And Trump just seems exhausted and confused during yet another event.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Plus, AOC said Woke 1.0 was crazy. Was it? We're going to dig into it. And Stephen Miller tells two enormous economic lies, I guess assuming nobody's going to actually go and check, but we will check. It is all coming up today. It's great to have you here. 12 Trump endorsed candidates have lost Republican primaries in 2026, including three just on Tuesday night. And what is happening is that Donald Trump's endorsement has become flaccid. It used to be rock hard, striking fear into Republican politicians everywhere. If Trump endorsed a different Republican in a primary,
Starting point is 00:02:03 You were toast. And Trump's endorsement has become this limp, unreliable, increasingly incapable of helping thing. And Trump's endorsement can't help you get over the finish line anymore. In Florida, we saw Trump back Congressman Corey Mills loses primary to former TV anchor Ryan Elijah. Mills got about 34% of the vote. Elijah won badly with 47%. Trump then gave Mills his coveted or Trump had given Mills rather, his coveted complete
Starting point is 00:02:40 and total endorsement. But the moment Mills lost, Trump changed his tune. Check this out. Before the election, Trump went on truth social and he said, Congressman Corey Mills is an America first patriot, tremendous champion for the great people of Florida's seventh congressional district. He talks about all of his various credentials and he says, Corey Mills has my complete. In total endorsement, he will not let you down.
Starting point is 00:03:03 But then after the loss, Trump posts, I told Congressman Cory Mills of Florida, a friend of mine to get out of the race, but he wouldn't listen. He thought he could win. So who can blame him? We now have a great candidate, Ryan Elijah, blah, blah, blah, but I told him to get out. The moment he loses, Trump goes, I actually said he shouldn't even be running. Very convenient. it's complete and total endorsement. After it's, I privately told him to get out. And then
Starting point is 00:03:33 demonstrating remarkable recovery time, Trump immediately endorses Ryan Elijah, who had just defeated his previous candidate. Ryan stands for everything MAGA, blah, blah, blah. He now has Donald Trump's complete and total endorsement. So I guess Trump's endorsement now means I completely and totally endorse whoever won five minutes ago. Now, Mills was a very very very very, very damaged candidate. He faced a House Ethics Committee investigation surrounded by allegations of domestic assault, financial misconduct, all sorts of wrongdoing, all of which he denies, of course. But that is sort of part of the story. Trump couldn't get it done for an incumbent Republican Congressman in Florida, Trump's own home state, I guess, although, you know, we kind of go back.
Starting point is 00:04:21 What does it really mean that Trump lives in Florida to the extent that it's Trump's home state? he still wasn't able to help. Trump backed Catalina Lough, who also lost in Florida and Trump's candidate for governor in Wyoming, Megan Degenfelder, also lost joining Pamela, a vet in South Carolina, and Randy Feinstra in Iowa, and Bert Jones in Georgia, and Andy Ogles in Tennessee, and Sid Miller in Texas, and a whole bunch of other people. Now, Trump's people will say most of the people Trump endorses still do win. And he's got a 96% success rate.
Starting point is 00:04:59 But as I've explained to you before, most of Trump's wins are pumped up almost like they were on Viagra by Donald Trump endorsing safe incumbents, candidates with no serious opposition, obvious favorites who would win with or without Donald Trump's support. But when you look at Trump's endorsements where there's pressure, where there's a challenge, where there's a real contest, the results really aren't so good. And every single time Trump fails, he pretends, ah, I was never really into them. They were flawed. I suggested they get out.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Now, this is happening while Trump is still the dominant figure in the Republican Party. His endorsement does matter. I'm not pretending that it doesn't. And Trump has helped carry some candidates over the finish line, including, for example, defeating John Cornyn, Ken Paxton in a primary defeating the incumbent John Cornyn, although you could argue by the time Trump endorsed. it was kind of clear that Pakistan was probably going to win. So the point is that this aura of invincibility that if Trump endorses you, you win and if Trump endorses your opponent,
Starting point is 00:06:06 you lose, that's fading. And this is highly relevant looking at 2028 because Trump's power has really always depended on Republican politicians believing he could end my career if he's against me. And he can send my career into the stratosphere like a rocket. if he supports me. As Republicans start to realize in a lot of these races, Trump's endorsement can't really reliably lift the candidate. The relationship to Trump is going to change very quickly. Now, he's still in control of the Republican Party as of right now. But after 11, 12 rejected endorsements, this whole complete and total endorsement thing is looking like it's not complete and it's certainly not total. It lacks the vigor and the girth and the purpose.
Starting point is 00:06:55 potency that it once had. And when Trump really needs it to perform, it's coming up short. Is that enough double on tonders for one segment? Let's hope that it is. But the reality here is that this is going to be a different environment in 2028. And it's going to be a different environment with regard to those in the House and those in the Senate, who I believe are going to see that the door is opened to actually not denouncing, but certainly drawing. drawing a distinction from Trump, separating from Trump, you are going to be seeing many more Republicans say, I was against the Iran war. I was against the tariffs because they are going to perceive correctly, assuming things keep going
Starting point is 00:07:40 in this direction, that Donald Trump's endorsement isn't the most important thing. And Donald Trump endorsing your opponent isn't the threat. It doesn't pose the risk that it once did. And that then is going to get us to the presidential election. Donald Trump believes he will and wants to be the kingmaker in the 2028 Republican primary. He's playing these games. Marco is really good, but JD's really good. They're all good. Who's it going to be? He wants to turn it into a reality show where he is ultimately
Starting point is 00:08:07 the decider. That could be snatched from him completely where he ends up in a situation where nobody really cares who Trump endorses or this would be a disaster for Trump, that Trump's endorsement is actually a problem. Remember, some in the audience are all old enough to remember, 2008, where John McCain was the Republican nominee. And you would think that George W. Bush would have been out there front and center campaigning for John McCain. But everybody knew that Bush was deeply unpopular. And so George W. Bush mostly stayed off the campaign trail. McCain still lost to Barack Obama. Didn't change that. But it was a calculation born out of the realization that this guy may actually be a drag to us on the campaign trail.
Starting point is 00:08:51 We could be rapidly heading towards a scenario where if Donald Trump is alive at the time that the 2028 campaign is up and running, he may be kept far from the campaign trail because he will do a lot of damage and not really do any good. That is the underlying story of these 12 failed endorsements. And this is only one of the disasters that Donald Trump is dealing with today. Donald Trump knows that his Iran war is failing. He knows he's losing. He is straight up losing the war.
Starting point is 00:09:21 And so he's now threatening to wage economic war just against random countries all over the world. It's not only Iran. Any country, any business, any bank, any airport that does something Trump decides constitutes a lifeline to Iran and he will go after you. Here is what Donald Trump posted to truth social. Truth essential. Quote, no one has given the Islamic Republic of Iran a greater opportunity to make a deal than me. Tragically for them, they have failed to take it. Therefore, today I am announcing the most crushing economic operation ever taken against any country. This will be economic warfare and isolation on an unprecedented scale. Their navy is gone.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Their air force is destroyed. Their military factories are now rubble. Their currency is worthless and their country is hanging by a thread. Ah, ha. Ah. Ah. Ladies and gentlemen. Today I'm also announcing that any country that allows its financial institutions, businesses,
Starting point is 00:10:26 airports, or government entities to provide any type of lifeline to Iran will itself face tremendous economic consequences. Oil smuggling, swap lines, cash transfers, exchange houses, ship registries, front companies, it all needs to stop now, says Trump. You know who you are. This will be an economic D-Day and we need all of our allies to stand with the United States of America to isolate and defeat the Iran threat. These maniacs are on the ropes and these historic measures will cripple them and their ability to project terror worldwide. Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. He calls it economic D-day because every Trump announcement, now has to be the trailer for a very stupid action movie. Like never seen before, an economic D-Day.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Now, when Trump says Iran's Navy is gone and the Air Force is gone and its military factories are rubble and the country is hanging by a thread, we've been hearing variations of that for six months. Iran is finished. The war is over. It's going to be two more weeks. The Strait of Hormuz is under our control. There's a deal here. It's imminent. And if any of that crap were true, Trump would not be announcing an unprecedented new phase of economic warfare. If you've defeated Iran completely, you wouldn't need to be escalating and threatening just about every other country in the world. You're only doing that because your strategy hasn't worked.
Starting point is 00:11:54 And the extent of the threat going beyond Iran is remarkable. Which countries is he thinking of? What consequences is he thinking of? What qualifies as a lifeline? And by the way, notice that Russia has been helping Iran this entire time. Trump is silent on that. But he's being very friendly with North Korea who is aligned with Russia. Now, Trump lists some of these ideas as to what it might count to help Iran, oil smuggling or exchange houses, cash transfers, all of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Some of those are legitimate targets. Like they would be, they're certainly more legitimate than some of the civilian infrastructure that Trump has been targeting in Iran. Iran uses these opaque financial networks to get around sanctions and disrupting that is not inherently deranged. The derangement is threatening entire countries with unspecified punishment. You're not really defining the rules. You're not really explaining the retaliation. Now, Iran's largest trading partner is China. India has a pretty significant interest in the region.
Starting point is 00:12:59 The United Arab Emirates has been sort of a commercial and financial conduit for Iran. And what Trump is demanding is that sovereign governments completely reorganize their trade and their financial systems around this war or prepare to be. punished by the United States. Now, what happens if China refuses? Does Trump put in place more tariffs? Does he sanction Chinese banks or try to put restrictions on Chinese companies? What happens when China retaliates against American businesses and American farmers or access to
Starting point is 00:13:30 materials that American companies need? This becomes a mess very quickly. Or imagine that it's oil related. Imagine that as punishment to companies, Trump reduces the oil supply. from the market and prices go up again and Americans pay even more for gasoline and electricity and everything. What happens to Trump and his political alliance when allies decide, hey, the US is kind of abusing its control over the financial system. Let's start trading in a different reserve currency, not the dollar. And so the point is that as always, Donald Trump is either unwilling or
Starting point is 00:14:11 unable or indifferent to considering that something like what he's proposing has the second order effects, third order effects, fourth order effects. His framework has threatened everybody with capital letters and assume that they're going to surrender, but that's not likely the way that it's going to go. Let's reset one other aspect of this. The Trump administration chose this war, said it would last two to three weeks, and we are in week 26. Iran has not surrendered. The nuclear issue is unresolved. The strait of Hormuz is disrupted. American consumers are paying more for a whole bunch of stuff. We've gotten beyond that 60 day negotiation window.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And we're about to start seeing mail and ballots go out to people for the midterms that are now just a couple of months away. Trump desperate for something that will help him politically is expanding military warfare against Iran into economic warfare against much of the world and bragging about it by saying it's economic D-Day. This is a desperate individual. This is a guy who knows he's losing, who knows that when his party loses control of at least the house, he's going to be mired in horrible investigations for him.
Starting point is 00:15:24 They're going to be great investigations for those of us who care about accountability, but investigations that will be terrible for Trump and the people around him. And he is trying to figure out what can I do to change the direction of this? It's Natalie Harp, who's there sort of pushing the gas pedal. on any of these ideas, and it ends up with Trump putting out a truth social post threatening the vast majority of the developed and the developing world. Is this going to keep Republicans in power in November? Quite frankly, I think the answer is obviously not.
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Starting point is 00:18:14 We may have just witnessed the most single, honest moment explaining magapolitics that I have ever seen. And it was delivered on Sean Hannity's program. And the person who delivered this moment of honesty and clarity, I don't think even realized what she was admitting. Now, let me build up to it and explain what's going on. Yesterday I played the clip of Trump endorsed Senator Darlene Graham. Remember, this is Lindsey Graham's surviving sister.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Graham's sister, Darlene Graham, who is now saying, hey, not just a few months of me being senator, elect me to a six-year term. She participated in a debate, and she was asked, are Taiwan and the South China Sea national security threats to the United States? And she said, we looked at this yesterday. I have no idea. Senator, are Taiwan and the South China Sea national security issues for the United States? If so, why? I'm sorry. Could you repeat the question? Are Taiwan and the South China sea national security issues for the United States? And if so, why or how?
Starting point is 00:19:18 I'm just going to be honest here. I'm not on national security. I'm not that informed on national security. So we know. But I do support the military. My brother was in the area. There you go. I support the military, but I don't know what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:19:33 So as we talked about yesterday, sitting U.S. senator running for a full. six-year term. Nobody expects every senator to arrive in Washington knowing every detail of every foreign policy dispute. But Taiwan and the South China Sea are not these obscure topics. Taiwan is at the middle of possibly the most dangerous confrontation between the U.S. and China. It's a critical region to global shipping. Semiconductor supply chain runs through Taiwan. If there were to be a Chinese invasion or blockade of Taiwan, all of a sudden, that could be massive economic damage to the United States. We could all of a sudden be dragged into a military conflict between nuclear powers. So you don't need to be secretary of state to understand that, yes, it's a national security issue. And saying,
Starting point is 00:20:16 I support the military is not an answer. It's like, hey, do you understand heart surgery? And you go, I support doctors. I really do. So after that humiliating performance, Darlene Graham goes on Sean Hannity's Fox News show to try to clean it up. And I have to tell you, a piece of her explanation is way more revealing than the original answer. Take a listen to this. I think you're 100% right, Sean, and, you know, I tripped up on one question last night regarding Taiwan. But, you know, I've said many times, I'm not a politician, certainly not a career politician. I don't speak politician. You know, I was just honest, and I think that's kind of a foreign concept. But I talked to several people today. I traveled around the state, and they said, you know, we appreciated.
Starting point is 00:21:04 the fact that you were honest. And by the way, even this characterization is untrue because there's viral video of people at a town hall saying to her, do you realize how insanely bad that looked? And do you realize that you need to know that stuff? So anyway, her characterization that everybody thinks what happened is fine is not true. But that's not the issue. Listen to what she says here about the priorities of South Carolinians. I did say several times that, you know, China is our enemy, our military.
Starting point is 00:21:34 economic threat to the United States. Of course, Taiwan is our friend, but I think people are- They're our friends. The South Carolina are more worried about making ends meet. They're concerned about boys and girls' sports. One lady talked to me extensively about that today. They're concerned about the Second Amendment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I've got to give it to Darlene Graham. That is an astonishingly honest summary of Maga Brain rot. He's essentially saying, yes, I knew nothing about one of the most consequential geopolitical flashpoints in the world. But Republican voters were talking to me about trans athletes, boys and girls' sports. Now, she still has not explained why Taiwan matters. She just said, Taiwan is our fran and China's our enemy. And then she goes into these culture war talking points that she's memorized.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Boys and girls sports, someone talked to me about that today, not my humiliating F up in this debate. And this is extraordinarily illuminating. This is how the modern Republican Party works. Understanding policy is optional. Experts we should be very suspicious of. Complicated questions are dismissed because I'm not a politician and I don't talk like a politician. And then they redirect everything into whatever tiny, tiny, uh, emotionally charged cultural controversy is going to keep them fired up. Now, transgender sports rules can be debated. States and athletic organizations have been dealing with this for a very long time. I don't think we need the federal government involved in it whatsoever, but presenting the idea that the true concerns of South Carolinians
Starting point is 00:23:18 are boys and girls sports rather than a conflict that could arise between the US and China over Taiwan, which could totally derail the American economy. That is utterly, utterly deranged. And her defense is the voters here don't care about whether their senator understands national security as long as she knows which people we are supposed to be afraid of. And it is boys and girls sports. And I hate to admit it, but she may be right. Now, as an important note, she may be, she may be right that the voters in South Carolina who would vote for her do care more about that because they've been told you should care more about that. As a very interesting side note, South Carolina already bans trans girls and women from competing in girls and women sports in elementary through public college.
Starting point is 00:24:10 So by their definition, this is not really a problem in South Carolina, but she would still rather panic voters about something that's already banned by law than learn the basics of national security. Now, Hannity trying to do more cleanup duty. He goes, why is everyone making a big deal out of this anyway? Nobody knows where Taiwan is on a map. Wow. Even more than Hillary though, radical squad leader, AOC simply could not answer basic questions
Starting point is 00:24:39 about global affairs. This is about- And so this issue of Taiwan came up last night and I know people have made a big deal about it and I'm like, I wonder how many people around the country if I gave them a map could pick out Taiwan. I don't think many and not just as, I mean the whole country, never, you know. mind, South Carolina. Wow. Even more.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Yeah. Other people wouldn't know where it is on a map. So it's completely fine that you had no idea. Now, I do think, listen, I don't know how many people could find Taiwan on a map. It's actually kind of easy to find. You just look at a map of Asia. You see China and off the southeast coast, there's an island and that's Taiwan. Do people really not know that?
Starting point is 00:25:23 I mean, I'm certain it sounds like Darlene Graham is saying the people she's meeting in South Carolina don't know it, but I think a lot of people do know it, but just a panic to run interference and an honest moment where she goes, listen, I'm talking to people more about boys and girls sports, which is not even a real issue than I am about conflict with Taiwan. And they seem to care more about it. Well, the reason they seem to care more about it is the Republican Party has spent eight years fearmongering about exactly that issue. A Trump press gaggle had to be cut short because he was clearly too disoriented to continue. Donald Trump ranting like a lunatic outside of the White House staggering through a disastrous event. Trump asked directly, are you exchanging
Starting point is 00:26:08 written letters with Kim Jong-un? Because the day before, Donald Trump had said, yes, I heard back from Kim Jong-un, but I can't go into detail. And now Trump goes, well, I can't really tell you that. A disoriented Trump flapping in the wind. written letters with Kim Jong-un? I can't tell you that. But I get along with him, right? And you know what? The fact that I get along with him, that's a good thing, not a bad thing.
Starting point is 00:26:35 He has 57 very powerful nuclear weapons. Should have never allowed it to happen. They should have never allowed him. I would have allowed it. But he's got him. I get along with him very well. I can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon. You know what's absolutely fascinating about this.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Trump is sending a signal all over the world. all over the world. We will go to war to try to prevent you from having a nuclear weapon. But once you get one, you do have leverage. And then I'm going to treat you really well. Now, of course, the deeper reality is that this is not so much about nuclear weapons. It's about Trump being impressed by dictators. He says it's incredible how this young guy Kim Jong-un is managing this entire country and he's
Starting point is 00:27:20 doing it strongly. And he's basically saying he's an authoritarian dictator. Trump is primarily impressed by authoritarianism. And there's another story here, which is that Trump seems to be favoring North Korea just like Putin would want him to. That's another story. But it's an incredible revelation, which is, listen, I have to get along with him. I have to be nice to him.
Starting point is 00:27:40 I have to defer to him because they've got nukes, which is not news. We know that countries that have given up nuclear programs have ultimately suffered geopolitically. We've talked about that in the context of Gaddafi. We've talked about it in other ways. But it's fascinating that Trump is admitting it. I'm going to treat you much nicer if you do figure out a way to get a nuclear weapon. Wow. Well, that is a remarkable revelation.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Donald Trump, in another extremely relatable moment as people are struggling to afford groceries, shows off his new granite driveway at the White House. Your electrical bills are up. Your water bills are up. They want to put data centers without giving you a say in your community. And Trump's like, look at my granite driveway. We got rid of the asphalt here and this is granite. And if you notice, it's radial, radio meaning it's cut about two degrees.
Starting point is 00:28:28 We did a very special cut on my granite. Every stone is two degrees rounded. So that instead of putting straight pieces down, we have the stone is absolutely perfectly rounded. If you look at it, it's sort of amazing because you can barely see it. How are you guys feeling about that? Are you proud of your country because they've done two degree rounding to Trump's new granite driveway at the White House. Meanwhile, groceries, you spend 120 bucks and you leave and you go,
Starting point is 00:28:58 what did I get? What did I buy? So relatable. He's really in it to just help the little guy, isn't he? Trump asked, are you going to restart negotiations with Iran? And he goes, maybe, but things are going so well. I don't know that I need to start negotiating with that. Maybe at some point, but right now, I think the situation is so good, but maybe at some point. Look, it's very simple. They have to get rid of completely. They have to get rid of no nuclear weapons. Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
Starting point is 00:29:31 You know what? You know, I'm getting the sense that as Donald Trump has realized, if I leave Iran, it's very clear that I've lost. There was this idea floated a couple of weeks ago that Trump is just going to go, we won and we're leaving. But it seems Trump has been convinced no one's going to be. to believe that he really won. So instead, he's taking this other approach, which is let's just kind of let it go on. Let's turn it into the exact type of endless intervention that I said I would
Starting point is 00:29:56 never do. And that's better as long as it's calm, right? As long as it just kind of continues, it becomes background noise. And maybe it hurts Republicans less in November. I don't know. I think it's the wrong calculation. Trump with a little grift, there's always some grift. It's go by Dell computers or Micron is a great computer. This time it's Scott's Miracle Grow. They contributed to my campaign and they're a great company. And of course, the stock price of Scott's miracle grow spiking after Trump said the following. Sunk in areas in here and it was pretty bad. He was in bad shape. But this grass was the highest quality. It was given free of charge by Scott's miracle grow, Scots. And Scots is a great, a great company. They actually
Starting point is 00:30:45 contributed to my campaign. I must be honest. Oh, intro, of course. That went out. And they said to me, sir, we'd like to replace the grass at the White House. Sir, with the highest quality grass and do a real job. So, Scott's, I want to thank Scott's miracle grow. It's, uh, always a little grift. What has Trump invested in lately or who has donated to Trump lately? Well, they're going to get a mention. That's for And then finally, Trump telling the big lie, saying we are in complete and total control of the strait of Hormuz. This is not true, as many of you know. The straight last night, we had a lot of boats come through. We have possession, complete control of the straight. Big nasty boats went right.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Outside of nuisance value, and there is nuisance value when they shoot a drone every once in a while. But and not everybody's going to go through. But they come through. We are not in total control of the straight of Hormuz. You might as well say, hey, the Easter bunny is real. Anybody who's paying any attention knows that we are not in control of the straight of Hormuz. And if we were, we might actually have a little bit of leverage to try to get some kind of deal done with Iran. We have no leverage. Trump has no leverage.
Starting point is 00:32:02 And Iran has made it clear. They'll just kind of wait us out and keep pushing and making things difficult for us there. sending oil markets regularly for a tailspin. And this is where we find ourselves today. So cutting this short, Donald Trump getting outside and kind of leading the press around the White House on this weird, almost like a house tour, a new version of MTV Cribs in 2026 at the White House. But no matter how much gold leaf he super glues to the wall, you can't put lipstick
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Starting point is 00:33:57 Pacman. Use the code Pacman. The link is in the description. Every political story has two parts, what happened and what different media outlets want you to think happened. And you can see the framing difference pretty clearly in this story about Donald Trump signing a $70 billion immigration bill after this long fight over ICE funding. On the left, the focus is what will the money fund? Billions for the next three years of Trump's mass deportation campaign. On the right, the emphasis is Trump taking future ice shutdowns off the table by signing the bill. One side is asking, what does this mean for immigration enforcement for mass deportations?
Starting point is 00:34:40 The other is framing it as Trump ending the threat of ice shutdowns. This is why our sponsor Ground News is so useful because it lets you compare coverage from the left, right, and center in one place, along with factuality ratings and info about who owns the outlets. I've been using Ground News for years. It can really help you see through the political spin that blinds a lot of news consumers. And right now you can get 40% off the same vantage plan I use. Go to ground. News slash Pacman. The link is in the description. A droopy asymmetrical Trump showed up 34 minutes late to a crypto event looking seriously unwell and visibly deteriorated falling asleep multiple times during the event. But we got to get a book about Joe Biden's health, right?
Starting point is 00:35:33 We got to make sure that everybody knows it's sleepy Joe and Trump with the 34 minutes late, barely moving out of breath and sort of shuffles sideways into the room. Look at this. The door swings open and in comes Trump. Okay, so more than half an hour late and then the event finally starts. But it was a very concerning and disturbing image. Because Donald Trump's face was drooping asymmetrically again. His right hand totally discolored and just falling asleep standing up while people are talking.
Starting point is 00:36:22 This consonants with our belief that the most important priority is for Congress to send the Clarity Act to your desk for your signature. And the SEC is doing everything we can to support that work. Trump barely able to stay awake. And then when Vlad Tenev, the CEO of Robin Hood was speaking, Trump asleep. again. And remember, Trump doesn't care about this crap. Tokenization will open up markets that have long been out of reach, including private companies. Today, too much economic value is being created before ordinary investors get a chance to
Starting point is 00:36:59 participate. Expanding ownership also requires protecting investors. Innovation and investor protection aren't opposing goals. All right, so Trump doing everything he can to avoid falling asleep, But then he opened his mouth and that's when it got really crazy. Donald Trump bragging. Look, I've got a good relationship with Kim Jong-un, the North Korean dictator. I don't want to be doing these massive military exercises meant to intimidate North Korea when I'm friendly with North Korea. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:37:29 What an insane disaster. For everybody. Yeah. Mr. President, earlier today you said North Korea has something like 57 nuclear weapons that has been expanding their nuclear program. Is your goal in trying to re-engage with. Chairman Kim still denuclearization. And what makes you think you could be...
Starting point is 00:37:45 Chairman Kim, by the way. Successful now when you weren't. Well, I don't want to talk about that, but I do have a good relationship with Kim Jong-un. As you know, you've seen. He didn't like Biden. He didn't like Obama. He didn't like anybody, but he likes me.
Starting point is 00:38:00 And I just got along with him very good. We had great meetings. We speak. And I think our nation and I think other nations, frankly, whether it's Japan or South Korea, South Korea. They're a lot safer if I'm president, if somebody else's president. Now, I didn't like the fact that we're doing these massive military exercises really against North Korea. It was, you know, exercise against North Korea. When I'm friendly with him, when we have, I don't see anything
Starting point is 00:38:28 happening for certainly two and a half years. It's not going to happen with me, but I don't see anything happening. And I was not happy when South Korea said, no, they're not interested in helping us with the Harmo Strait. And yet they get... Hormos. 60% of the royal from the Hormos trade. I said, would you like to help us? He said, no, thank you. I said, that's nice.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Please. Thank you. He made us a lot of money. So what is this really about? Trump loves dictators, is being deferential to Russia and is trying to hurt a country that said we don't want anything to do with your war in Iran. So this is really, you might step back and go, why is Trump so fixated on being nicer to North Korea after the belligerent?
Starting point is 00:39:11 threats and the oppression and by the way, Kim Jong-un humiliate Trump acts like they've always had great conversations. The second North Korean summit was a disaster. It was clear no progress would be made and they ended it early and Trump went home with his tail between his legs. But there's a there's a sort of perfect storm. There's a Venn diagram here. Trump often behaves in ways that are deferential to Russia. Trump being nicer to North Korea because of the Russia, North Korea alliance is deferential to Russia. Checkbox number one. Number two, Trump loves dictators. He's impressed at dictators who deal with an iron fist outside the confines of democracy. Check.
Starting point is 00:39:47 That's another reason. And number three, Trump wanted South Korea to get involved in the Iran war. And South Korea said, no, thank you. We don't want anything to do with that. And so Trump is also trying to hurt one of our Democratic allies. Check that box. It is all of it. It's perfect.
Starting point is 00:40:04 It's the perfect storm. Trump asked about the fact that it has now been 69 days since we've been. have seen Mitch McConnell in reality, in video, moving. And he is asked, what about term limits for Congress? And Trump does one of his funny where he's like, yeah, some people like it, some people don't. And it's been about 69 days since we've seen Mitch McConnell. Sometimes when you look at Congress, it looks like the cast of the moon.
Starting point is 00:40:30 But I read a Cindy Adams column in New York Post recently. She talked about how we need term limits and someone needs to hold Congress accountable. Maybe you should be the person to do it. Would you support term limits for Congress or some type? Now the question is, would you support term limits? Prepare yourselves for a completely unintelligible answer from Trump. Of cognitive testing because maybe if we had that the last four years, we wouldn't have in the out of these mess.
Starting point is 00:40:52 So term limits are very popular with the public. I've seen it both ways. I've seen where people go in and they get termed out and they're very talented and they're at the height of their career, you know, politicians. And you end up with total rookies in there, nothing gets done. And I've seen it the other way where people are there to. long. We see that all the time. I see both. By the way, the idea that we're at the height of Mitch McConnell's career is very funny. I always like to say that a term limit is an election.
Starting point is 00:41:19 You know, the public's pretty smart. You see that last night. We had some great success last night. The Republican Party had tremendous success last night. But I like to say that term limits should be elections. But I'm okay with term limits. Remember the people that have to pass term limits are the people that are going to be voting on them to get out of office. So it's a little bit tough. That's not the easiest vote to get, is it? Huh? But, but But Trump's right on that. Trump's right. You know, it's like the people who we depend on to get money out of politics are the people
Starting point is 00:41:46 that were put in power by money in politics. The people we depend on to put term limits on themselves are the people that would be kicked out of office if they put term limits on themselves. Anyway, there are solutions to that, not really the issue here. But Trump just incoherent. He's not making any sense. And he's continuing at his own risk to take a very unpopular position on something that is uniting Republicans and Democrats.
Starting point is 00:42:07 and Democrats are very much against data centers in their communities, especially when they haven't been given an appropriate opportunity to understand the proposal, understand the cost, the risk, rewards, the benefits, and who is going to pay for it, which often is taxpayers without even being given a chance really to adjudicate whether it's a proposal they want to accept. But Trump goes, I don't know, I would be doing more data centers. They're cool. The construction jobs are enormous. We're building the biggest plants anywhere in the world. And I can say, if I were the mayor of a town or or the governor of a state, and I had a chance to get a big plant in, an AI plant or a data center, I would absolutely want it because the jobs are enormous, and the money paid, the taxes paid,
Starting point is 00:42:49 are just enormous. And if you don't take it, you're going to be left behind because there are plenty of places that want it. So I would say that maybe it can use a little public relations help. But if I were a governor or mayor, I would want that plant in my community. And many of them are designed in a very beautiful way. It's really very positive. I don't know of too many people that are saying if a community has gotten all the information with an appropriate amount of time to decide for themselves, that they shouldn't be allowed
Starting point is 00:43:17 to have a data center. Of course, if a community wants a data center, they should be allowed to have it. But what is infuriating Americans is that this is being done with taxpayer money in many cases for the build out for something that really doesn't create many jobs, creates environmental problems, can create noise, can mess up the water. And it is being done without an appropriate amount of time or even opportunity to vet the proposal and to really have their voice heard. And so going just do more data centers, mayors, as he calls them, do more, tell the mayors
Starting point is 00:43:49 to do more data centers. This is not only anti-democratic, it's deeply unpopular with Republicans and with Democrats. Final clip, this should be a campaign at. Trump goes, I hope we have bad economic numbers. You know, I almost like to hear bad numbers. I'm saying, I hope we have bad numbers at the interest rates. Trump is saying that because he is so desperate for the federal funds rate to come down, because that's the decision, of course, that the Fed would have to make.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Anything that will push the Fed to lower rates he likes. And often it is bad economic numbers that push the Fed to lower rates. The only little problem with that is that bad economic numbers mean the economy is suffering, meaning that Americans are suffering because Americans make up the economy. He doesn't care. has been obsessed for years with what he believes will be politically advantageous, declines in the federal funds rate. So if it screws Americans, it screws Americans, so be it. Donald Trump spent years accusing Democrats of being careless with classified information and turning national security
Starting point is 00:44:54 into a joke. And now we learned that one of the people closest to Trump worked inside the White House for more than a year without a security clearance because she repeatedly declined to apply for We are talking about Natalie Harp, not a junior staffer, not an intern, not the woman who brings water and coffee. We're talking about Trump's executive assistant, his constant companion, his informational gatekeeper. She travels with him. She follows him around the White House.
Starting point is 00:45:19 She's with an earshot of every sensitive conversation. She has access to the West Wing. She has access to the White House residence. She controls what reaches the president. And she's been nicknamed the human printer because she regularly brings Trump printouts. of flattering stories and favorable polls and sometimes from very questionable sources, as well as messages from people trying to reach Donald Trump. She is the insider's insider. And now according to new reporting from MS now, she declined multiple times over more than a year to do the damn
Starting point is 00:45:51 paperwork to start the security clearance investigation. Why did she refuse? Nobody knows. Now, the SF-86 form that you fill out in order to go through this process asks about your your finances, your employment history, foreign contacts you've had, information that investigators would use to identify vulnerabilities that you might have, that you know about or that you maybe don't even know about. It is a tedious process. That doesn't explain refusing to complete it for more than a year while working, it's not even feet, inches away from the president.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Now, the White House counsel's office reportedly became concerned. I've already told you that Secret Service was raising concerns about the fact that that she's really physically close to Trump. She has no clearance. And staffers were trying to limit her access. They were like, listen, after all, she has doesn't even have a security clearance. They failed because Trump intervened and eventually she completed the paperwork and she got a clearance recently. Now, Caroline Levitt responded to this entire story by saying Natalie Harp has a security clearance like everybody else. Of course, she does now, but that avoids the entire issue. Now, there is a lot of speculation online asking, could Natalie Hart be some kind of foreign
Starting point is 00:47:07 asset? Now, to be totally clear, we don't have any evidence. She works for a foreign government. We don't have evidence she's leaking information or committing crimes. It is a speculative question, but it is predictable speculation. And the underlying questions are completely legitimate questions. Why would someone with this level of access resist a background check? Why did Trump tolerate her resistance of the background check. Why were security professionals unable to limit her proximity to Donald Trump? The reason we have this process for a security clearance is because foreign powers cultivate people with access and they look for financial, personal or emotional vulnerabilities. I've never talked about this before. I've had situations in and around the time when I was
Starting point is 00:47:54 invited to the White House to meet President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris and meet with with Biden people about really how Democrats are failing when it comes to independent media. Around that time, I was sort of advised, like, listen, you should be aware of all of these different ways in which people might approach you if they come to believe that you might have access to the president, which I did, right? What was there once? They might approach you this way, this way, this way, this way, these are the ways that foreign intelligence disguised as not foreign intelligence might approach you. And you should just be aware
Starting point is 00:48:33 of all of these things. So the whole idea here is she has 10,000 times more access than I did in the 15, 17 minutes I was with Joe Biden. And the whole point is let's identify risks before somebody gets close to sensitive information, not a year after they started going to the White House every day. Now, we kind of know the answer. Trump was apparently so attached to Natalie Hart. and so dependent on the flattering material she was supplying and so resistant to anyone limiting her access that he was just like the rules don't apply to her. And the security concern was not outside the White House trying to get in. This was a this was a concern inside the White House walking next to him carrying the printouts that he wanted to see. So we are going to I
Starting point is 00:49:21 I don't think the Natalie Harp story is going to last more than a couple days. But I do think it's important to understand the full scope of what this is about. It would all, if you came to me and he said, the only thing going on with Natalie Harp is she and Trump are having an affair for which we have no evidence right now. I would go, oh, that's less concerning than some of the worst case scenarios where we're talking about an asset. We're talking about a manipulator. If it was like he just has her around because they're having an affair, I would go, oh, all right, well, that that sounds like Trump and that's almost less of a concern. The concerns in reality are that it is a far worse situation.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Hey, if you're hearing this, that means you're listening to our podcast on one of the many podcast networks that we stream to. And first, I just want to say, thank you for being a listener of this show. It really means a lot that you're tuning in here. I would love to ask you for a quick favor. We are so close to reaching four million subscribers on YouTube. YouTube is where we post everything you get through the audio podcast and a lot more stuff. It would mean a lot to me if you took a quick second to pop over to YouTube, search up the David Packman show and hit subscribe. Every bit helps. I would love to have you as a subscriber there. Will we have a new debate on the left? The debate is about something called Woke 1.0
Starting point is 00:50:45 and whether it was crazy and whether Woke 2.0 should replace Woke 1.0. Now, these are very vague terms. This is the first problem anytime you want to figure out something like this. What are we talking about? Woke 1.0, Woke 2.0. A lot of this discussion started after Congresswoman Alexandria, Cascio Port Cortez, repeated the line quoting someone else. Woke 1 was crazy. And the context was that she was talking about old progressive positions like abolishing the
Starting point is 00:51:16 police, abolishing prisons, to a smaller extent canceling Thanksgiving. And AOC weighed in and said, you know, I, there's a. council member who says to me, woke one was crazy. This is from her interview with Jonathan Carl. Francesca Hong has made clear her present stances to her electorate. Yeah, she's moved away from a lot of that. Right. She's moved away from it. And I have a local city councilman that has this saying woke one was crazy. And I think that what's important is that we have to assess what a candidate is saying. Was it? I mean, did they move and go too far with some of those positions? I mean, you,
Starting point is 00:51:53 You briefly supported the idea of defunding the police. Well, you know, I think that during this time and during, especially during COVID, there was a huge opening of the overtime window. We were shut down. There was some of the highest unemployment rates that we have seen because of those shutdowns. And I think that the doors were really open in trying to entertain any and every policy that was going to get us to a better place. And I actually think that the disqualification.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Discussions that were had in that time were quite fruitful. I think that when we talk about crime today, it's fundamentally different than the way that we talked about crime in bringing crime down, right? And I think that we all share in the goals of having as low a crime rate as possible. I think that, you know, during lockdown, of course, rhetoric in that time is not rhetoric that we would use today. So listen, AOC is getting hit hard for this woke one was crazy. But if you listen to her whole answer, it's pretty nuanced.
Starting point is 00:52:56 She's like, well, listen, COVID was a period that opened up the door to discussing a lot of different ideas and not all of that was productive. We should evaluate candidates on what they advocate for now. So that I think is a sort of an interesting statement. Another clip that is getting a lot of attention about this is New York City mayor is Oran Mamdani sort of distancing himself from what is understood to be woke 1.0. And he just goes, listen, people evolve in their positions. You yourself have walked back defund the police.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Do you think Woke 1 was crazy? Each person has a responsibility to tell New Yorkers, to tell Americans when they're running for office what they believe. And sometimes what you believe can change. It can develop. It can grow. And I know that there are some for whom they still believe in that. I've made very clear that I do not believe in defunding the police, that I will not be defunding the police. So listen, first is what are we saying by defining woke one and woke two.
Starting point is 00:53:55 If woke one means, so we're thinking back to the COVID era, right, of what I guess people are calling woke one. If woke one means we recognize that there's still racism, we got to take sexual harassment seriously, we're going to respect gay and trans people. When there's abusive policing, we're going to reform it. We're going to look at discrimination inside of institutions. not crazy. Those were legitimate concerns. Those are legitimate concerns. Now, there was this political culture, especially online and inside certain left-wing organizations. I would say from
Starting point is 00:54:29 roughly the mid-2010s through like 2021 or 2022, which was very dysfunctional. And it treated any disagreements with any aspect of the agenda that they laid out as evidence of moral corruption. prioritized finding the perfect terminology over like, let's just persuade normal people with good ideas. It would divide people into specific identity categories and then assign them certain level of authority depending on how oppressed we perceive them to be. That stuff wasn't good. People who were publicly condemned for minor verbal mistakes or when complicated policy questions become tests of whether you're a good person. And in that context, slogans like defund the police and abolished prisons were adopted by some without any real agreement as to like, do people
Starting point is 00:55:23 support this stuff? What do we actually mean by this? And that is worthy of some examination. And there were people at the time warning, hey, this might be politically suicidal. This is intellectually unhealthy. This is a problem. So was that crazy? I mean, listen, AOC's word is crazy. I think it was extraordinarily counterproductive. It was a bad idea. So there were ideas that came out of woke 1.0 that are relevant and important today. And there were some practices that I think were not so good. The problem is that right wingers are now performing a completely dishonest substitution. They point to the excesses and they conclude that the underlying causes are not good. But saying we should have racial equality, that's not crazy. Saying everybody should be treated
Starting point is 00:56:08 with dignity regardless of whether you are LGB or T or that there should be accountability for police. That stuff isn't crazy. And what the right wants to do is pretend that all of it is crazy. Now, the strongest version of Woke 2.0, and I don't know who means what by Woke 2.0. The strongest version of Woke 2.0 would say, hey, we've got some moral progress here and we're going to preserve that. That's good. But let's abandon the bad political habits. And so we would emphasize universal rights instead of ranking people by identity in this sort of oppression Olympics. Or we would say we want material improvements on health care, housing, wages, and childcare rather than symbolic victories understood by, you know, six people on social media.
Starting point is 00:56:56 And the other thing I think would be is important when we look at this movement that wants justice is we've got to recognize proportion. An awkward phrase might be an awkward phrase. It might be an unfortunate phrase, but it's not violence. A bad joke might just be a bad joke and not necessarily evidence of hatred. Someone disagreeing with you is not automatically bigotry. And people generally should be allowed to go, oh, I'm sorry, I made a mistake. I've learned and let's move forward together. And we also want to be sure that we are not, how do I say this? Economic inequality matters hugely. And that needs to be dealt with.
Starting point is 00:57:43 But also, there's more than just class. And although some like to say racism, sexism, homophobia are fundamentally about class, these are like class reductionists. Even if you give everybody health care, you're not getting rid of racism, sexism, and homophobia. And so the point here is justice requires persuasion, coalition, building, and political power. And if you have a movement that makes ordinary people afraid to speak honestly, it's eventually going to become isolated.
Starting point is 00:58:13 And so was one, was woke 1.0 crazy? I don't know. That's the word AOC is using that the way I would put it is that there are morally necessary elements of what might be called woke 1.0. And then there were some wacky cultural aspects to it as well. If the left is serious, then we should be able to admit both, right? We don't have to say woke 1.0 is crazy straight up. Actually, there's really important ideas in woke 1.0 recognitions about society.
Starting point is 00:58:44 But at the same time, there is some denial among some about the destructive and isolating nature of some of the tactics that were in play. I think there's something in there for everybody to like and everybody to hate. Let me know what you think. Leave a comment or email me info at David. Pacman.com. Donald Trump aide Stephen Miller went on TV and delivered two economic claims that are simply false. But he did something that's very popular in the MAGA right, which is he says things that are untrue with complete confidence, this indignant anger. And it's kind of useful to him
Starting point is 00:59:20 because when your audience doesn't know the numbers or have any clue what's going on, you can make up whatever damn story you want. See if you can find the lies in what he says here. Atlantic. They should all be required to register as a Democrat political action committee. I mean, let's just think through some of the things that you mentioned. President Trump has been in office in his second term for a year and a half and has solved problems that plagued this nation for decades, generations, or even longer. I mean, just go through the foreign policy piece here. He's completely rebalanced our trading relationship with Canada.
Starting point is 00:59:53 He has protected American manufacturing and essential supply chains from China. He has completely rebalanced NATO and ensured that other nations pay their fair share. He is now pursuing peace in the Korean Peninsula, which hasn't been achieved since the armistice in the 1950s. President Trump has single-handedly toppled Maduro, freed the people of Venezuela, and secured the greatest boon for America's energy and supply chains, probably in the history of our country. He's taken the fight to the drug cartels, declared them a foreign terrorist organization, used military power to fight these enemies of human civilization. And as you have mentioned, he stopped Iran, the Islamic Theocracy of Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon that could destroy an entire city. And now you come at home, he's unleashed American energy, he's building pipelines, he's bringing the price of gas down from the heinous highs of the Biden administration. He's taken inflation from the highest level in American history down to 2%.
Starting point is 01:01:00 All right. Let's stop there. I want to focus on those last two claims. First of all, the average price of regular gasoline in the United States is over $4 a gallon right now. That's not going down. It's gone up recently. It's up about a dollar over a year ago.
Starting point is 01:01:17 It's a big increase and a lot of it is because of Trumps are on war and the tariffs. Now, it is true that gas briefly went above five bucks a gallon in June of 2022. That was because of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. There was disruption to global energy markets. That was a global issue. But when Joe Biden left office, regular gas was about three bucks a gallon. And then it went up under Donald Trump, especially after Trump launched the war against Iran. And shipping through the strait of Hormuz was disrupted.
Starting point is 01:01:41 So Miller wants to compare today's price with the one week that gas was really expensive globally during Joe Biden's four-year presidency. But that ignores how much the price came down. the price that Trump inherited and then the price went back up. It's like gaining 40 pounds and bragging you still weigh two pounds less than the most you've ever weighed. It doesn't really make a lot of sense. And then inflation.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Miller goes, we were taken by Trump from the highest inflation in American history down to 2%. Extraordinarily dishonest. Every part of that is wrong. Now again, June of 2022 between COVID and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, inflation peaked in the United States and in just about every Western developed democracy. It was really high. It was not the highest in American history.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Inflation was above 14% in 1980 during the period around World War I. We had roughly 18% inflation. So 9% is the highest in a while, not in American history, but most importantly, when Biden left office, inflation was 2.9%. And Trump didn't get inflation down to 2%. Trump has seen inflation go up all the way up to 3.8% and more recently around 3.5%. So Miller is, yeah, if you pressed him, he might go well. I'm looking at core inflation, which excludes food and energy or using some different metric.
Starting point is 01:03:09 But even that's not 2%. And even that doesn't change the fact that Americans are paying more for gas, more for electricity, more for groceries. This is how the Trump economic propaganda system works. You take Biden's worst number. You compare it with a more convenient Trump number. You change the definition. And then you assume nobody's really going to go and check.
Starting point is 01:03:27 The tragedy. And this is what is just so depressing in this country. A lot of people will hear Miller's claim confidently stated on Fox News. And they will believe Trump inherited record inflation in January of 25. And he got it down to 2%. And of course, the real story is the opposite. Trump inherited inflation below 3%. And it's now a lot of it.
Starting point is 01:03:48 above 3%. Trump inherited gas at three bucks a gallon and now it's above four bucks a gallon. When they think their audience is clueless, they will try making it all up. And when their audience is clueless, they get away with it. Now, the only potential saving grace here is that when people go to the pump, I think they kind of realize what's going on. And maybe you can bamboozle them a little bit about the trajectory of gas prices over time. But I think that a lot of these voters know, And they're not going to be tricked with this stuff in November. That's what we need to hope for, not because we hope that the country does terribly, but that if the country's not doing well, we hope that voters understand it and vote understanding
Starting point is 01:04:32 that when they say I'm going to vote for more Republicans or I'm going to vote for fewer Republicans. That's the goal for voting to be responsive to what's going on out there in the streets. Saying everything's awesome didn't work for Biden Harris in 2024. It just didn't work. People were like, no, we don't believe you that that's what's going on. I don't think it's going to work for MAGA and Republicans either. Now, another broken promise of Trump's is that the national debt is now at $40 trillion.
Starting point is 01:04:56 We are going to talk about that on today's bonus show, as well as the Trump administration undoing plans to boost workplace heat protections. This is an interesting story. And what's going on with Mike Pillow? Is Mike Pillow finally giving up and going, I lost? That's it. The answer is, of course he's not. All of that and more on today's bonus show. Find it at join packman.com. And remember that my forthcoming book is now a month away. The book is pay attention.
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