The Debaters - 1833: Maple Syrup vs. Honey & Sleepovers

Episode Date: June 20, 2024

The Debaters’ season finale episode is creating a buzz! Charlie Demers and Derek Seguin sweet talk the audience when they debate if maple syrup is superior to honey. Then, Henry Sir and Erica Sigurdson are ready for a pillow fight when they discuss if nothing’s more fun than a sleepover.

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that couple I emceed the wedding for? Still married. That's how good I am. Though I guess I can't take all the credit for that. Anyway, let's get to this week's show. This is a CBC Podcast. This podcast is an extended version of The Debaters, which may contain more mature themes. To stream the radio-friendly version of this episode, download the CBC Listen app or go to cbc.ca slash The Debaters.

And thanks for listening to The CBC. Hey Canada, it's time to fire up the comedy Jets from Winnipeg, home of the Jets. It's the Debaters! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! The Debaters, where comedians fight with facts and funny,

and this audience picks the winner. Now here's a man who gives a puck. Steve Patterson. Hey! Thanks, Graham Clark. I do give a puck. Ha ha, we said it twice. Hello, Canada, and welcome back to the Winnipeg Comedy Festival. Yes! Which takes place each year in Winnipeg.

It's the second most anticipated celebration in the city, right behind Caesar Week. Where over 30 bars compete to be named in the Bar Top Hall of Fame. Judges sit in a special roped-off area of the restaurant, which I guess is called the Caesarean section. And each restaurant gets creative with the garnishes. Some keep it simple with a celery stick and a lime. Others go all out with things like waffles, bacon, or burger patties. Now, I'm not a master mixologist myself, but I am a bit of a history buff.

So if I were in the contest, I would call mine the A2 Brute. Then anyone who wants to make one can just take a stab at it. It's time to meet two debaters ready to cause a calamity. This comic puts the chuck in chuckles. It's Vancouver's Charlie Demers! Charlie Demers, everybody! One of our very favorites. Hi, Charlie!

Hello. Hello, Steve. Welcome back, friends. Thank you very much. And this comic is no francophony. It's Brassat, Quebec's Derek Sagan! Derek Sagan versus Charlie DeVeuse! Are you kidding me? We think we have the perfect debaters and the perfect topic, so let's just get on with it. Your topic is a pretty sweet one. Maple syrup. Is it superior to honey? Whoa, murmur, murmur.

I wouldn't want to answer this question myself, so let me compare two other things. The Manitoba Maple Syrup Festival and the Cleefield Manitoba Honey Festival. One is a winter fest and the other one's a Summerfest. Wow. If you miss the Maple Syrup Festival, it will really stick with you. But if you miss the Honey Festival, it might really sting. That one actually physically harmed some of the audience. Go to one, go to both, just don't waffle. Because if you miss the pancake breakfast, you're gonna flip out. Time now for a debate that really pours it on. So, whereas it's lower in calories, sweeter in taste, and is an iconic Canadian symbol,

be it resolved, maple syrup is superior to honey. Charlie, you're arguing for this, please. You have two minutes. Starting now, Charlie Demers. I don't quite know how to convey the sadness and confusion I feel as a French-Canadian face-to-face with another French-Canadian arguing that honey is better than maple syrup. If you were from India, this would be like meeting someone who thought a double-double was better than chai. Or if you were from England, this would be like meeting someone who thought sex was better than a vigorous handshake. Like all great traditions in this country, maple syrup was discovered and developed by Indigenous peoples,

became a core component of Francophone society for centuries, and today provides Anglo-Canadians with something to differentiate themselves from Americans. LAUGHTER Except Americans from Vermont, from Americans. Except Americans from Vermont, who also support Bernie Sanders. Turns out, if you plan on slamming a 68% sugar elixir most mornings, you also want to sort out

that universal health care. Honey, on the other hand, is the result of a process so unseemly that we do everything we can to cover it up. Honey is the only animal product that comes in a container shaped like a different animal. Turns out, nobody's super excited about the idea of sweetening their toast with bug sauce. So the best we could come up with was, hey, you know who else likes this stuff?

Bears! You know, that super discerning species we have to lock up our garbage from. When I was a little boy growing up in Vancouver, any trip to see family in Quebec, any visit from a relative over there, there were always cans of pure maple syrup in the suitcases. This is a core childhood memory. And these days days I honor those memories by always bringing maple syrup with me when I fly. These days

though I put it in the carry-on but only so that I have an excuse to drink it in the lineup at security. No liquide? Oh I had no idea! Well if it's Air Canada policy, then santé! Thank you, Steve. Charlie Derez! On behalf of Maple Syrup. Thanks, Charlie.

Now, with an argument for honey that'll no doubt earn him more than a B+. Let's hear from the one and only Derek Sagan. Wow, thank you. Thank you. You all know the old saying, paradise is the land of milk and honey. You've never heard anybody say, can't wait to get to the land of the Labat-Saint-Count and maple syrup. Okay, maybe Charlie and I have heard that

because we're Kimmy Quaid. Honey, it's the purest food. No one's get hurt by honey. No slaughtering of animal or ripping fruit from a tree. It's just we walk up, excuse me, Mr. B. Uh, I'm just gonna take a little bit of this bug vomit that you're producing for no... for no reason other than that you're nice

and you know that I have a sweet tooth. Thank you very much. Keep doing it. I'll be back tomorrow. Maple syrup? C'est quoi, ça? Who even thought to milk a tree? Trees don't have nipples. So we're forced to make, like, man-made tree nipples to suck the sap.

And the sap is only slightly sweet water. So we have to suck, like, 500 trees almost dry to get, like, 40 liter of sap. And then we have to build a caban with a giant furnace in it. And then, if you were one of the lucky tree that didn't get viol-ates with the tree nipple, well, we're chopping you down and we're gonna use you as firewood

to burn your cousin's blood down to make this sticky, sweet brown crack that go with only one thing, pancakes. Oh yeah, so worth it, Charlie. Let's cut down half the forest and then, quite frankly, violate the other half of the forest to make one cup of stuff that makes your flapjack slightly more palatable.

What is wrong with you, man? Thank you. Derek! Derek Seguin, everybody. Wow. Wow. Thank you. Derek! Derek Sagan, everybody! Wow! Wow! This is not an easy

assignment going against maple syrup in Canada, but boy did we pick the right person for the job. It's time now for the Bare Knuckle Round! We're debating whether maple syrup is superior to honey, so let me sweeten the pot for you two sugar daddies. It's time to spout off, forcing your opponent to tap out

while also be hiving yourselves. Wow, getting swarm in here. We may pull some of these puns, because they're appalling. So let's start a buzz now. Charlie said it himself. Maple syrup equals communism. Oh, just review the tape here.

I... First of all, your debate contained the phrase, uh, honey doesn't hurt anyone. Why do you think beekeepers wear what they wear? You heard Mike. What? anyone. Why do you think beekeepers wear what they wear? What's your sense? They all have allergies. I mean look, you say Charlie what's wrong with you? You know full well what's wrong with me. Yeah you grew up in Vancouver, you say, Charlie, what's wrong with you? You don't full well, what's wrong with me? I'm... Yeah, you grew up in Vancouver. You mentioned that before.

Oh. Well, no. French people don't belong in Vancouver, buddy. I don't know what you're doing over there. Because I'm not just French, and that's not the only part of me that loves maple syrup. I also have a whole Scottish side of my family, and the Scottish side of my family adores maple syrup.

My mom actually had an aunt named Jemima. That is a true... 100% true fact. That is true. I think she was exaggerating about the godmother named Mrs. Buttersworth, but the Aunt Jemima, that's the fact. Okay, you know who likes honey? Winnie the Pooh.

Winnie the Pooh likes honey. And you know who likes maple syrup? My Aunt Winnie, and she smells like urine. These are great points, guys. And look, honey is a term of endearment, like, oh, And look, honey, honey, it's a term of endearment. Like, oh, thank you, honey. So nice. You can't, I just see you later at the after party,

like, oh, hello, my little maple syrup. And then tomorrow we read, socialist comedian, Charlie Demers has been canceled. Listen, your suggestion that syrup is only used for one thing, that it's only good on pancakes, that's so untrue. There are a million different things you can use maple syrup on. They can also be used on two.

Give me two other things. Forget the million. Crepes? That's French for pancake, buddy. That's the Bare Knuckle Round, everybody We got a good one going on here, yeah We're debating maple syrup versus honey Charlie DeBeers versus Derek Sagan

And it's time now for the firing line In my hand, I have a list of questions On maple syrup versus honey Brought to you by bees That are allergic on maple syrup versus honey brought to you by bees that are allergic to maple syrup. Bees that are allergic to maple syrup. Why do you think they break out in hives? You're welcome.

Winnipeg's own Bothwell Cheese Shop says if you can't decide between maple syrup and honey, you should do what? Charlie. Use cheese. That's right there. That's a great slogan for a cheese shop. Yeah, three points.

Derek's again. Maybe see a therapist. You can't make simple decisions like... I don't know what to do. My name is Charlie. I can't decide. Do I start on my left foot or my right foot? I'm on my... Oh.

I always forget how accurate your impression work is. Bothwell Cheese Shop says if you can't decide between maple syrup and honey, you should try their product Honey with Maple Syrup. If you're in advertising, I have a client that needs your help. Yeah. One of the darkest varieties of honey in the world is produced right here in Manitoba by bees whose hives are located near what? Charlie.

Sarcastic flowers. Three points to those who get it. They get it a lot. One of the darkest varieties of honey in the world is produced in Manitoba by bees whose hives are located near buckwheat fields. Buckwheat fields, one of the rejected Beatles songs. Pfft. Beatles songs. Morningchores.com's list of 23 interesting ways to use maple syrup includes using it to make butter,

cocktails, as a popcorn topping, and what else? Derek. Tile adhesive. That's pretty good. Two and a half points. Charlie Demers. That's pretty good. Two and a half points. Charlie Demers. I know it's as an embalming fluid.

Wait, sorry, can you... How do you spell morning in morningchores.com? You're clapping for a guy who can't decide between honey and maple syrup. Uh... Morningchores.com's list of 23 interesting ways to use maple syrup includes butter, cocktails, popcorn topping,

and when making homemade soap. Oh, yeah. Nothing ladders up quite like maple syrup. Who needed all this pesky body hair? In 2011 and 2012, $18.7 million of maple syrup was stolen from a storage facility in Quebec, an inside job that is now known by what name? Charlie.

The short stack flapjack tabernacle hijack. Nope. But eight points. A rare eight points answer. Anyone else like to try to answer? I don't know anything. Never heard of it. I was at the movies that day. It was known as the Great Canadian Maple Syrup Heist.

Adjusted for inflation, it's the largest heist in Canadian history. Which I love. But you would be surprised how little things you can buy with maple syrup, don't you? That's the firing line, everybody. Yeah. It is just about time for our Jubilee Place Theatre audience to pick a winner.

But first, here again to remind us that now is not the time for him to hear any honey boo-boos. Let's hear again from Derek Seguin. Thank you. Honey is the result of the magical work that bees do. They pollinate every fruit, flower, and blossom on our planet. And then they go home and say, you know what? We're not done giving yet.

Let's spit this pollen out into these cute little octagon bowls so people can enjoy it. It's delicious, and we learn geometry. Those little octagon honeycomb are so cool. And no one gets hurt. That's the other important thing. It's the only food on the planet where we don't kill or hurt anybody.

To consume it. We still do it. Like we're eating honey and just punch a cow in the face. And the bees are happy to share. Are the trees happy, Charlie? You think? Let me jam a robinet in you and suck out 40 liters of Charlie juice

so that I can have a little sauce to dip my sandwich in. So selfish. What has Vancouver done to you, bro? Aren't you supposed to be, like, tree hugger out there, not tree assaulters? Okay. Derek Sagan!

Derek Sagan. The way that only he can 40 liters of Charlie juice. Remember that. Now, here with an argument that'll make you syrup in your seat and listen, let's hear again from Charlie Demers! Thank you. The world's leading exporter of maple syrup is Canada, and it is produced from our country's official tree, whose leaves display a dazzling symphony of colors every autumn.

Honey is produced from insects known to sting children to death. Organized into squalidly undemocratic hierarchies, headed by absolutist monarchs, and the planet's three largest exporters are the authoritarian regimes of China, Turkey, and Iran. If Derek insists upon his anaphylactic,

dictatorial, strongman bug excretion, that's fine. It's his breakfast. strongman bug excretion. That's fine. It's his breakfast. Nobody can stop him from drizzling the diabetic equivalent of Niger Delta Crude all over his granola. If that's what he wants. Me?

No merci monsieur. I believe in something called democracy. I believe in Take your breakfast from zero to zero. Merci. Early to this, ladies and gentlemen. Wow. Great points on either side. The audience has a tough decision to make, but make it, they must. By applause, who has won over the most

by Derek's honeycomb over Derek's again? Woo! A big, big shout-out for Derek. And who more supported Charlie's syrupy syrupsity, Charlie Demers. Oh my goodness. It's so close. It is so close.

I can't do it to either of them. It's inconclusive. We have a tie, ladies and gentlemen. A tie, syrup and honey. A tie, syrup, and honey. Thank you. And for Derek Sagan, Charlie Demers. You're listening to CBC Radio's The Debaters. Want access to bonus content and information on upcoming tour dates?

Then be sure to follow us on Instagram at at CBC Debaters. Hi there, Steve Patterson here. You know, I travel a lot for work on my own, so when I can do a trip where I get to bring my wife Nancy and our daughters along, I jump at it. On a recent trip to Ottawa, we booked an Airbnb. It was a nice home in a nice neighborhood, and it even had room for our dog Ferris, which was also nice.

And that made me think, hey, maybe our home in Toronto would be a nice place to stay for some nice people too, since it sits empty while we're away. And honestly, it would be great if our house started bringing in some extra cash to put towards the next trip. Because frankly, Ferris keeps screwing up in his job interviews. Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at airbnb.ca slash host. Hey there, I'm Kathleen Goltar and I have a confession to make. I am a true crime fanatic. I devour books and films and most of all true crime podcasts. But sometimes I just want to know more. I want to go deeper. And that's where my podcast

Crime Story comes in. Every week I go behind the scenes with the creators of the best in true crime i chat with the host of scamanda teacher's pet bone valley the list goes on for the insider scoop find crime story in your podcast app hey winnipeg i just have one question for you are you ready to meet your next pair of debaters let Let's do it. Looking forward to this. This comic likes to be addressed as Sir Henry. It's Edmonton, Alberta's Henry Sir. Welcome, Henry.

There he is. Making his way to the podium to my left. Hey, Steve. Hi, Henry. Hey, man. And this comic wants a discount on a big yacht but keeps missing all the big sales. It's Vancouver's Erica Sigurdsson!

There she is. One of our very favorites. Erica Sigurdsson making her way across the stage. Hi, Steve. All right, debaters. Your topic is one that will keep you up all night. Sleepovers. Sleepovers.

Are they the most fun you can have with friends? Even though I have some very good friends, I have very few sleepovers. Though I have been known to have a fun night out with buddies and then oversleep. Kidding. I have been known to have a fun night out with buddies and then oversleep. Kidding. I have two young daughters. I never oversleep. My daughters are entering prime sleepover age now, so they're starting to have friends stay overnight and they laugh and they talk all night long, which means for my wife Nancy and I, sleep is over. But it's time now for us to

turn in a dream debate. So, whereas it can be a great bonding experience that provides endless enjoyment and memories, be it resolved, nothing's more fun than a sleepover. Henry, sir, you are arguing for this, please. You have two minutes. Starting now, Henry, sir. Thank you Steve Winnipeg Many top philosophers Have said friendship Is the greatest gift of all

What greater joy is there than time spent With dear friends Nothing consummates a friendship Like a sleepover Looking at your dear friend saying, hey, I prefer life a lot better when we're together, so why don't we stick it out through the cold, dark night? Sleepovers are the platonic friend equivalent of going all the way.

It's the anticipation, the buildup. We made plans on Monday, friend equivalent of going all the way. It's the anticipation, the build-up. We made plans on Monday and it's all I've been able to think about. There's the payoff, gleefully giggling the night away without a worry in the world, playing, watching movies, staying up later than usual in hopes of even a glimpse of nudity on the showcase review. Sleepovers are social progress. And what's more fun than self-improvement? I grew up in Alberta in the 90s,

a time where we ignorantly and shamefully called everything gay. Reading a book? What, are you trying to expand your mind like a lady, bud? Smoke a pack of cigarettes? Get in the forklift, bud. There's no time to call anything gay. At a sleepover, we're already in our boxers in the same waterbed.

There's a lava lamp on next to said waterbed. Thank you, Winnipeg. Thank you, Winnipeg. Thank you, Steve. Henry Sir, with his first debate opening for us. And he has really put sleepovers in a whole new light for me.

Now, here to tell us why she always chooses sleep over a sleepover, let's hear from Erica Sigerton. Thank you. My opponent wants you to believe sleepovers are good fun. What he isn't telling you is one out of every two children at a sleepover will be murdered in their sleep.

Now, of course, this isn't true, but it is an example of the rampant misinformation shared between children at a sleepover. Sending your child to a sleepover is akin to sending them to a Trump rally. They come back to you full of lies and undercooked hot dogs. to a sleepover is akin to sending them to a Trump rally. Fuck. They come back to you full of lies and undercooked hot dogs. Fun fact about me, I wet the bed until eighth grade. Let me tell you, sleepovers were a dangerous game. There's no discreet way to hang a sleeping bag outside of a cabin at summer camp. When you wet the bed at a sleepover, you always claim someone must have put your hand in warm water,

which is a lie you really have to commit to when it's just you and one other kid. Who are sleepovers fun for? Definitely not the parents hosting it There's always a weird kid with food sensitivities And the other one that stopped drinking liquids after 4pm Now they have a raspy voice from dehydration Call my mom. And memories at sleepovers aren't all good.

You're always getting bullied by the popular girl who thinks she's so great because she got a cabbage patch kid named Bethany. And all your parents could afford were the knockoff pumpkin patch kids who had pink hair and an eye patch. Mine was named Bambi like they knew she'd grow up to be a stripper. I was a bedwetting child with type 1 diabetes

who arrived at every sleepover with insulin, needles, blood tests, and no concept of the biohazards I was causing. Wake up, people. Sleepovers are for suckers. Thank you. Thank you. Erica Sigurdsson with a very passionate argument against sleepovers. It is time now for the bare-knuckle round. We're debating whether nothing beats a sleepover. So don't be afraid to tell the truth or dare to tell some popcorn-y jokes.

Don't let sleeping bags lie. Instead, make blanket statements. So wake up and prove your opponent is full of sheets, starting now. Henry, I think we need to be talking about these sleepovers you were going on where you were consummating. Like nothing at a child's sleepover should involve consummating. That's the rule. And by rule, I mean law. I take a lot of issue with what you're saying, quite frankly. You talk about the misinformation, the innocent lies. That's part of what's fun about a sleepover. Like, what do you want them

to talk about? Like the truth? The cruel, horrible truth of what lies fun about a sleepover. Like, what do you want him to talk about? Like, the truth? The cruel, horrible truth of what lies ahead in life? Hey, you want to have fun and play games that require imagination? Nah, let's make LinkedIn accounts so we can network. Yeah, that's good.

I don't know what happened at boys' sleepovers, but I was like, I would have killed it if I had a LinkedIn page. You talk about how sleepovers aren't fun for parents. Maybe if parents had a sleepover every now and then, their idea of fun wouldn't just be comparing mortgage interest rates and complaining about how much time they don't have for fun because of the kids they wanted to have so bad who are so busy trying to have fun with sleepovers. Try that.

Wow, that sounds real personal. And maybe your parents could have had more fun if they didn't have two horny 11-year-olds snuggling in their waterbed. Yeah, all night. Said what I said. I do have to give you respect, though, because as a bedwetter, former bedwetter, I should say. I think we're going to leave it right there. That's the bare-knuckle round, everybody. No shame. There's no shame, Erica.

I thought, should I let her go on or not? And then I thought, depends. One point for me. I'm taking a point. All right. It's time now for the firing line. In my hand, I have a list of questions on sleepovers brought to you by Sleep Unders. Not a lot of people know this. Sleep Unders are what they call sleepovers in Australia.

In goodhousekeeping.com's list of 40 fun things to do at a sleepover, number one is create a scavenger hunt. What is number two? Henry? Keeping liquids away from Erica. Yes! Two points. Erica?

Uh, calling your parents to come pick you up when they were right in the middle of role play. And now Dad has to explain why he's in a tennis dress. Not from personal experience. Let me just... No, that's not what I have here. Number one is create a scavenger hunt. Number two is have an at-home drive-in movie. Fun.

In 2014, England set what sleepover-related Guinness World Record? Erica. St. Patrick's Day. Three points. Henry. England. Is that what you said?

Yes. World's longest dental procedure. Woo! That one overbit. In England, they set the Guinness World Record for the largest sleepover with 2,004 participants. They also had a multi-year sleepover with the rest of Europe and then left. Childmind.org's list of steps

to make your child feel brave enough to go for a sleepover includes have a camp out at home, sleep over at a relative's house, and what else? Erica. Watch Karate Kid. Showing the Karate Kid pose and still the crowd not believing her.

Henry? I just, like, drop them off in the wrong part of town, see if they get home. Toughen them up. They do parenting different in Alberta, don't they? You can, if you want to help your child feel brave enough to go for a sleepover, you can be the host of the first sleepover with a friend.

Huh? That's the firing line, everybody. It's a close one. As we head down the homestretch here at the jubilant Jubilee Place Theatre in Winnipeg. And it's almost time to pick a winner. But first, here to remind us why, to her, a sleepover means when you don't snooze, you lose. Let's hear again from the very woke Erica Sigurdsson. I know a lot of parents in the audience are thinking, but what about a sleepover at Grandma's house, Erica?

You can't think those are bad. Well, you'd be wrong. Grandma doesn't believe in nightlights, and her bedtime stories are about living through the war. She always chucks you in that guest room slash sewing room with the wonky lamp. Your five-year-old body pinned down by a 70-pound wool blanket.

Laying in the dark thinking, are the Germans coming, Nana? And then just as you're drifting off, you look up at that shelf and you see them, the doll eyes, staring down at you. Well, Winnipeg, those are memories I am still paying my therapist to forget. Thank you.

Erica Sigurdsson. Very vivid. Good point. Thank you, Erica. Now, here to tell us that anyone who's against sleepovers should wake up and smell the coffee, it's Henry Sir. Sleepovers are specifically designed for fun and literally nothing else.

Most fun events have a fun loophole in them. Going to see your favorite band, it sounds fun until the guy ahead of you sings along out of key the whole time, doesn't know the words, and you have to be like, hey, man, those aren't the lyrics to Nickelback's photograph. Show some respect. Let Shag Kroger sing. You're not finding this at a sleepover.

World peace would be attainable if our political leaders would cozy up to the other, slip on some PJs, put on the showcase review, and bask in the glory of fellowship. Thank you. Henry, sir. Yeah.

This argument just got a lot bigger. Audience, it is up to you to decide, if you can, who thought that Henry's argument made an excellent pillowcase in favor of sleepovers? Henry, sir. Okay. A lot of support for Henry.

And who agreed with Erica that anyone who supports sleepovers is just asleep at the wheel? Erica Sigurdsson. The audience has spoken. The winner is Erica Sigurdsson, down with the sleepovers. Big hand for Erica Sigurdsson and the debut of Henry Sir, everybody. Well, that's all for this week.

I'm Steve Patterson saying, if you're sleeping over at a friend's house soon, remember to B-Y-O-T-F-G-S, bring your own toothbrush, for God's sakes. I'll argue with you again soon, Canada. Good night! bring your own toothbrush for God's sake I'll argue with you again soon Canada good night The Debaters is created by Richard Side this week's episode was produced by

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