The Debrief - A Vodka Coke & A Double Codeine Please

Episode Date: May 7, 2023

Welcome to the Debrief! We are Kitty and Katie, two gals trying to navigate life in our 20's living in London and wanting to bring you along for the ride. We're here to cover everything from nights out, to career goals, to bad dates, and everything in between. We hope you enjoy, Monday’s are about to get a whole lot better.Want to debrief with us? Email [e-mail] or DM us on instagram @the.debriefpodcastLots of love,Kitty and Katie x Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

🎵 Hey guys! Hey! Welcome to episode 3. Have you missed us? We've missed you. Episode 3. Episode 3. I can't believe it's episode 3.

I know. And the sun is shining in the sky the rain cloud inside i've gotta um adjust the elephant in the room as well i've lost my voice a bit guys i know there was even a bit of moments today was like fuck can i not be able to do the podcast but you know what i pulled through i'm a vocalist i remember it was like the school musical and i was like losing my voice and i was like and i had like soluble ibuprofen and i'd sit and gargle it like every four hours and i used to be like yeah yeah oh i love that i had my little inhaler the steam inhalation i was like oh yeah get your nails done as well yeah love it absolutely love it but Katie look outside sunshine look at it someone said Mr Blue Sky someone someone did say that we've been blessed we have been so blessed

yesterday yesterday you should have seen us guys we were literally walking to a coffee shop at 5 p.m in the daylight beating down, sunny's on. It was lovely. We were loving life. I'm loving this weather, Katie. I love it so much. I just love it. It makes me feel so much happier.

I love it, especially when, so in the sun, I burn. I don't know if you could tell by looking at me. We were fucking in Barcelona. It was like over 11 degrees in case I was like, oh god. I nearly blistered. She had the worst tan line, no, burn lines on the back. You were the definition of a squashy. I was a squashy, however the only thing is is that I will burn but then I get a really freckly face and I just think it looks so cute. I've actually thought I'm going to start icing my face in the morning. Oh with the rollers, I've seen this. so cute. I've actually thought I'm gonna start icing my face in the morning. Oh with the rollers! I've seen this. To be honest, I went through a phase where I think

everyone did where I really wanted a skincare fridge in my room that I could put my... because I have a little Gua Sha thing and I wanted to put it in the fridge but I feel like putting it in our fridge would just be a bit... It's a bit embarrassing. It's a bit embarrassing. I've got a mini fridge, you could use that. Although they probably complain about being more money. Yeah. Loser.

Talk about wasting electricity. And these fiends that we live with put the lights on in the middle of the fucking day. What is their issue? Why do they do that? I don't know. They keep saying it's dark. It's not dark. It's 12pm.

It's the middle of the day. I know. And they're like, turn the light on, it's really dark. I'm thinking, are they blind? Are you blind? Are you blind? I can't see, I'm blind. Blind.

Blind. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You thought we were just a pretty face. Talent to boot. a pretty face. Talent to boot.

Katie. Kitty. Let's move on to the mantras. Now, you went first last week so I would love to know what your mantras are right now. So,

I've been feeling a little stressed the last few days because obviously, drum roll, we know what's coming up. I'm going to Australia. Boom. So, I just felt a bit overwhelmed. I was i was like fuck i've actually got so much you're going for such a long time i'm getting

my nails done tomorrow i'm getting spray tan i need to pack i was like why am i doing this all last minute picked out my outfits put it in my notes i haven't done anything it's a lot to pack for it's a lot to pack for um so i felt very overwhelmed so i my mantra of this week is i am in control love love love i woke up this morning went to the gym went for a run did 5k and i was like should i be doing this right now should i be running should i be doing this should i just be packing right what i mean and i was like no looked myself in the mirror and i was like i'm in control and i was like shit i was like no look to myself in the mirror and i was like i'm in control and i was like shit so like yeah i am i can't i know we talk out of our ass most of the time like i

know we do but like this i feel like doesn't come out of our ass this is true this is this is truth i love it it makes me feel so much better so i feel in control now our plans at the weekend. I was sat there getting ready. I was looking at myself in the mirror. I was doing last week's mantras. I was like, I'm sexy. I'm confident. I'm successful. I was like, I do my eye line and I'm sexy. Do you know what felt different? A massive difference. So do you keep, when you have your mantra of the week, do you keep saying it to yourself throughout that week? I keep repeating it because sometimes, especially in social situations, I get a bit nervous. On Friday, I was a bit nervous.

And I was walking and I was not coming in with anyone. So I was literally just walking up and I was like, I'm confident. I'm sexy. I'm successful. I've got it. And it's always fine. And what's yours this week? Mine is, I'm going to go in threes again.

I'm going to stick with I'm confident because I found that really helped last week. Like, I just need, it's one of those things that if I'm just constantly reminding myself, I'm like, if I'm just the most, like, what would the most confident version of me look like? Be that person. I love that. Remind myself. I'm like, yes. So I'm going to stick with I'm confident.

You're going to love this. I'm going to go for i am clean now listeners listeners listeners oh it's gonna be a hard one i had a spring clean uh i went into your room this morning to look i was amazed isn't it like a sanctuary we were living in school at 80 and your mom's gonna listen to this and I'm telling you, Jane Leach. Jane, it's not that bad. It's so bad. Jane, your knees come over and your daughter's out.

She's gaslighting your mum. I'm not, Jane. I promise I'll never light you. It doesn't look bad at all. She was living in squalor. Cereal balls. She had flies. The flies weren't on the cereal.

No, they weren't on the cereal. No, they weren't on the cereal. That's worse. They were circling. They were circling your room. And I was like, I've got to leave this hole. The problem is I want to be that clean girl. I want to be like clean, minimal stuff, like everything spring clean, fresh. Kitty McNeil is one of those people.

She's just a very clean person. Neurotically clean. I love it. And I respect it because your room always looks good. Thank you. So I'm like, do you know what? I'm sick of this rigmarole I find myself in. I'm going to be clean.

I'm going to be one of those people when I get changed, I put the stuff back. I don't... So that's going to be hard for you. No, floor drobe. I'm trying to read that Habits, the Atomic Habits book. Okay.

And it's literally like just reprogramming your mind. So I'm telling you now, the sun's out. I felt a woof. A woof? Woofed? Woofed.

Wait, who said that? A woof. Meow. I felt a big wave of motivation to to just sort my life out yeah and I'm gonna be and that starts with just keeping my environment nice and clean yeah so whenever I'm like I'm gonna have my bowl of cereal in bed I'm gonna be like hey girl you're clean put that straight back in the kitchen and wash it up you dirty bitch yes because although our flatmates joke that i am a bit gebbers i hate to admit it i am a bit gebbers sometimes okay so i love that you're staying confident staying

clean staying clean and staying successful oh i love successful yeah bitch success was such a great one because it just sets you up for the whole week yeah absolutely whatever i'm doing right now is furthering me in my life i love that i'm so successful what's that ariel girls i'm so successful yeah it's me on the tube like i'm so successful i love it what's the song of the week actually i have been listening to on repeat i wish it was more interesting umta James Sunday kind of love I'm an old soul I'm an old woman I love that

that's just such a tune I was playing it all of yesterday whilst I was cleaning and I'm like oh did you I felt like I was in a film yeah I had my diffuser on clean sheets got my flowers yeah you did I love a flower we were speaking about this yesterday actually I always have flowers in my room we'll change them every few weeks have to have them they just make me happy makes a difference so when I saw you I was like you go girl smells nice as well yeah they, they do. They smell really fresh. Keep it fresh. Yeah. What's your song of the week? Mother. I ain't your mother. Oh, I love that song.

Oh, Mother by Meghan Trainor, in case everyone's like, what is this song? Go on and search out. Have you seen Meghan Trainor's child? The glasses. Oh, my God. The cutest child I've ever seen. Have you seen their TikToks? They're so cute.

Oh. Right, sister. Have you seen their TikToks? They're so cute. Oh. Right, Katie. Let's... Deep breathe. Okay, let's start off with the riveting Friday night. So I was an absolute arsehole. So Friday morning, woke up. We had plans, by the way.

And like really big plans. We had loads of friends from different places all meeting up. Yes. And like my friends, we talked about her last week, but boyfriend that you were going to meet and all of this. So really good social group, really excited for it all. And then Archie's friends and just like a big group of us. Yeah.

I woke up on Friday morning had a bit of a tummy ache so we reached into bedside drawer actually we should do a section on bedside drawer what do you keep in there apart from vibrators and parasitimol what do you keep in there because I keep my life in the bedside drawer I have a lipstick in there as well oh good one then lip balm everything's got my teeth whitening strips actually in there. Do you? Yeah so I've just reached across the... You probably have a bottle of cereal in there you dirty gay. So anyway, woke up Friday, opened my drawer, went to go grab a paracetamol, pop two paracetamol, fine. Woke up a few hours later feeling shrugged. I was like, I got out, I was sweating. I was like what was going on? I went to the bathroom, was looking at myself, was like dizzy. I was spinning. I was like, oh my god, what was going on?

Went to the gym, sweated out, came back, still felt like, I was like, come on, I can't have the flu or something. And it hit me. I was like, I've still got a few of that medication from when I had a pain from that running. I was like, looked in the bedside drawer, I popped a double codeine. Oh you silly, silly, silly. So I drugged myself for the rest of the day. I was like out of it. Out for the count. I was trying to do my work at my desk. Arch came in, my head was on the table. I was so, I was so out there oh she was like so are you coming tonight i was like tommy like i can't sit up i'm literally like oh i felt

nauseous i felt so sick i was like oh i was like trying to sit up i got up to like make some food so evidently guys we didn't even go i was i i found out to text you because i got so i was at work and for some reason guys this was probably the longest day of my life at work like i don't understand like it was so so long yeah so i'm so all i'm really focused on is just getting home getting ready and then having a great night out so i thought this would be really good to see all these people and then one of the girls that was coming along and said are you still planning on coming tonight and I said yeah yeah absolutely yeah no I'm really excited and she says oh yeah it's a shame you can't come and I said is she not coming well she said no she feels quite sleepy

so I texted you I was like sleepy I was like are you alright? Because that is the age. She texted me, we were going to meet at like seven. Yeah. And I didn't leave work till like half seven, so I was sat there like, planning to meet you guys all there. But I think she messaged me at like three o'clock, so I was like, why can't she sleep this off? Why can't she just have a nap? Yeah, I was like, I don't understand.

I was out like a light. Out like a light. I actually felt quite bad because I forgot you were home. I got home, was like, okay, I've got 45 minutes just to get myself ready. Slam the door as I come in and I have all of my songs on and I'm like, hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like screaming through the kitchen. Sonia Calloway.

Yeah, literally, I'm like, Calloway. And I'm like, mm, mm, mm. In the bathroom, like left my door open, music on full, and then Archie messaged me, like, can you just check on Kitty just to see how she's doing? And I was like, it ain't my... I was like, oh. Like, she's still here?

I was like, Kitty, Kitty. You're a bitch. And then I, like, opened the door out like a light. You were like... Lights were on as well, so I I was like you must have been tired. I was so tired. Not even an eye mask. I was out of it.

Straight out. But you went. Tell me about it. How was it? I had a brilliant time. There were loads of people like that came along. Yeah. It was people that I find I haven't really seen in a while.

So I feel like there was so much to catch up on. You were feeling a bit nervous weren't you? I was because the only people I would say I really knew very well were um our flatmates yes yes um and they had their friends there as well so I always find it I was like oh and and I think when you're in a social situation you have your person yes i do this all the time so if you go to a party or a pub or meet up you have your person which means i'm closest with them so default i'm feeling uncomfortable i will sit next to that person yes and you are usually me my person yes you know i'll be like oh katie's there so i'll be fine yes well and so i was like yeah so i was a bit nervous and

i don't know why i think it was also because everyone was already there. And they'd been there for about an hour and a half before I got there. Okay. So then there's a little old me like, hello. Like, I always like to think I was like, at least I'm coming late. So I'll make an entrance. Yeah. Like, everyone's going to be like, where's Casey?

And then, you know, I walk. They're like, whoo. I don't know. You're like, well, here she is. But in reality, I walk in like, hi, guys. Hi. Hi. Hello. So did you meet them at the pub first?

Yeah, we were at the pub for quite a while. We actually think we stayed till last call. Oh, wow. What did you drink? Oh, no, let me guess, Aperol. Yeah. You're bang on. You're loving your Aperols at the moment.

I really am. And then we went. We were all chatting, had a really nice time. Project manager manager Archie on the scene where we're off to next yeah we're all chasing a good time

yeah so we decide to go to a is it a club it's kind of like a bar called Little Blue Door oh yes nice

in Fulham yeah nice so we went it was it's nice there it or was it feral? It was very busy.

In my personal opinion, they shouldn't have let us in because it was packed. Oh, really? Like, I felt like it was just like a pressure cooker. It took forever to get a drink. The queue for the toilets, we were queuing for like 20 minutes. Was it more packed than yours? Yes. It was so busy. It felt like you couldn't move. 20 minutes. Was it more packed than years? Yes. Shit.

It was so busy. It felt like you couldn't move. It felt like constantly you were bumping into people, so people were getting really annoyed. There was a girl behind me who kept like bumping into me, but I had a table in front of me, so I couldn't go anywhere else. So Archie graciously offered to swap places with me.

And he was literally getting so annoyed by this girl like constantly moving back and then this girl this guy Archie sat there and he's looking at me like why is this girl shoving me? She keeps shoving me and then I think this woman heard and then she was like if that guy says one more thing

I'm going to kick him like a fucking horse and I was like, if that guy says one more thing, I'm going to kick him like a fucking horse. And I was like, oh, God. I was like, I've got to go. Did Arch hear that? Yeah. What did he say? Well, he didn't say anything. He wasn't going to do anything.

He was literally like, excuse me. And we were giving each other looks. And it was just one of those things. So we ended up going back to one of our friends. They lived nearby. So we ended up going back to theirs for like a life after. It really nice was it like her old house yes but nicer but that was really good we all got a mcdonald's costed archie and i actually ordered the same thing okay um and one of them didn't arrive so we had to share i cannot think he would be more fuming you are both of us

aren't sharers and i think what's worse is because i feel like when someone's like i'll share i cannot think he would be more fuming you are both of us aren't sharers and i think what's worse is because i feel like when someone's like i'll share i'll always eat a little bit more but archie's also very similar like that i ate the majority of the burger we were like trying to taking a bite and then like passing it along and then when he wasn't looking i was like i was like two bites yeah i remember got back half three to my, I realise I am off to watch my sister run the Kew Gardens 10K. Woohoo! Well done, Lucy. Well done, Lucy.

Big shout out. You're a runner. You're a track star. I'm very proud of you. Well done, darling. That was really good. At half three in the morning, I did make this realisation. And the entrance to the Kew Gardens 10k shuts at 8am.

So I had to leave my house at 7am, meaning I was up at 6.30. About two and a half hours sleep? Yeah. The fear in my body. Did you feel hungover? Had you drunk a lot? No, I hadn't really. I was actually all right.

And then I was sat there like, oh, like it's more, it was more the lack of sleep. So I remember afterwards, my sister and her boyfriend went to support as well. So I was with her boyfriend. Oh, nice. And they were like, are we ready to explore Kew Gardens? And I was like, respectfully, no, I'm going back to bed. And I've only seen one fucking head ranger. I was like, I've seen grassa I was like I've seen grass before

I've seen trees before Kew Gardens is lovely how far out of London is it? it's near Richmond because I literally got the train to Richmond and then got and then walked shout out to Richmond what a lovely place

I did that Saturday morning what did you do Saturday morning? Saturday morning, I had quite a nice one. So Arsh I met up with some friends that I used to work with, which is really, really nice. Went for brunch. So nice. What's that? I went really road though, because I'm usually eggs and other. And I got a fucking toast. It just wasn't the vibe at all. I got fresh orange juice. I loved it. Fresh orange juice. Orange juice. No don't tell me. Do you do bits or without bits? Bits. I love here. I love the bits in orange juice. I love it. I got an orange juice with bits and I was like oh the bits. I was like when it's fresh and it's that little tang and then you get the bits and it's like I love it. I love it. When it's fresh and it's that little tang and then you get a bit. I love it. I love it. I love it.

So it had a brief brunch. Caught up, which was nice. We're going on holiday to Tuscany with them as well. Oh my gosh, yeah. I'm so jealous. Which was about Tuscany, which was really nice. And they're heading off, well, they're actually landed in Australia now. Oh my God.

So we were talking all about that. She was giving me tips for the flights. Such a long flight. Oh my God. Oh my God. talking all about that she was giving me tips for the flights such a long flight oh my god and i'm thinking i'm just gonna have to really have things planned for the flight yeah i'm thinking i'm pop coding because what pop a finnergan finnergan no coding i'll be out where are you stopping over koala lumpa oh yeah yeah so i'm doing 13 hours then a four and a half hour stopover and then seven hours. The thing that makes it absolutely batshit is that

it's still seven hours from Koala Lumpur to Australia. And you're like yes! Luckily my flight though going out is during the evening so what I'm gonna do is pop a codeine, pop a finagin. Yeah. Drug myself, take a few shots. You know, I want to be out for a good... Because then I think I arrive, I don't know how this works, but like five...

In the morning? Afternoon. I don't get how it works. I don't get it. And then I'll arrive in Australia at seven in the morning. So I don't understand. I don't, I I don't understand I don't I really don't understand um so I'm gonna try then not sleep or maybe sleep like two hours and then stay awake so that when

I'm off the plane I try to adjust yes yeah ah so we were talking about that over the brunch which was lovely um and then yeah I think pretty much we got ready for the evening. Yeah. Yes, we went to... Went to Bermondsey. Bermondsey. Love Bermondsey. It's really trendy. Really, really lovely.

Really, really cool. Really cool. Any listeners that live in Bermondsey, can you give us some more recommendations? Because it was really nice. Really cool place. Really, really nice. Not really been for a while. No.

Met a group of friends again all walks of life yes um off it's kind of a friend of a friend that we've met yes but got to know and he's absolutely lovely and it was like his birthday celebration so we all met but it's great because there's a guy there that i massively beefed up yeah massively it was so fun and that was the first time you guys met and then you had a bit of a falling out huge beef and so i was like oh god literally i remember um i was feeling a bit like oh god what's it gonna be like seeing him yeah basically he called me a really insulting word i will not be saying on the podcast um but called it and then i was slaughtered uh so i went in on him i was like oh god just let me and i was like in in it um and then i went up on him, I was like, I just met him, and I was like, in it.

And then I went up to him in the bar when I saw him on Saturday and called him that word. I was like, you're right. My favorite thing was at the time of the beat, it was Halloween. Yes. The guy in question was dressed up like Buzz Lightyear at the time.

Oh my God! So he says this thing to you, you start beefing him, and you're like, do you know what buzz like? Yeah, buzz off! And I was like, get a girl! You good girl. I distinctly remember saying, piss off, buzz. And then I was like, yeah, good one. But yeah, when I saw him on Sassay and I was just like, you're right, said the same. Thankfully, he laughed. Thankfully, everyone kind of went away. But yeah, like we had such a good time. We met loads of people from different water supplies.

We met so many people. I think it's very fun when going into a group of people you've never met before, getting to know people and just chit-chatting and like enjoying the night. Yeah, it's nice. But I feel like similar when you were saying earlier about like having your person, you and my person that night. Yeah, it's nice. But I feel like similar when you were saying earlier about like having your person, you and my person that night. Yeah, and we also hadn't seen each other in a few days

because of... Codingate. Codingate. Right, and this is a question as well. Someone that we met there, their go-to drink is an apple juice and rum. Rum. What?

Weird drink. I have never heard of that before. I've never heard of it, but when he then said pineapple juice and vodka, that's something I'd like to try. Have you tried it? No. No. But rum and apple juice.

Did the boys try to set you up that night? Did you get... No. No? No. Oh, that's good then. I know. So you didn't get Richard Gate? No, that night? Did you get... No. No? No. Oh, that's good then. I know.

So you didn't get Richard Gate? No, no. I didn't get Richard Gate. So no one asked you how your night was going? No. How disrespectful. It was so disrespectful. That's just so rude. Can't win.

You can't win, yeah. He asked me, I'm bothered. He doesn't, I'm bothered. We all went off to kind of different clubs. So we were like, there was a certain club that we didn't want to go to because it was just far away. So we were like, but we know it's a good vibe. But we were like, we don't want to go. Everyone was like, we'll go, we'll go. Anyway, we got on the train and we texted the group chat and told everyone else that we tried to go and they didn't let us in. So then we ended up going somewhere else.

So we went somewhere else. That's so good. Anyway, went somewhere else. They found us out later though didn't they because they then texted saying we're in the club because

yeah because we were like oh they didn't let us in like don't bother come here and they were like we're here right now we're in there and we were like

how embarrassing that's embarrassing I was like hey sorry guys we made a fundamental issue though because we before we went to

this club we did it the other way around we got sued beforehand so we got chips we were stuffing our faces then we're in the club like I felt heavy I felt so bad

we did it the wrong way around and then we were sat there the DJ in this club was awful it was hilariously bad it was so bad and then there was also a group of freakishly tall men.

Wait, wait, with the DJ we have to say why it was so bad. So it'd be like... So they'd get like to a really good part of the song. Yeah. Like... Buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh Silence. Silence. Silence. The music just stopped for like ten seconds. I could hear those people farting in the club. That's how quiet it was. I was looking around like... And then it was really uncomfortable.

Everyone would look around like, what is going on? You thought someone had pulled the plug on the equipment or something? Honestly, the mixes were so bad they didn't match at all. No. They played one song for like ten seconds and then remixed it into another. It was really strange. There wasn't enough at all. When you're sober in a club, I take people shoving into me so personally.

You do. I'm genuinely like, do you not see me? Am I invisible to you, sir? I got barrelled into by a group of five people twice my height. I'm quite tall. I'm 5'7", 5'8". But I got genuinely almost toppled over by these guys who weren't even looking where they were going and they just cracked, they all did this big

hug and this guy like stumbled backwards. Was it the Guillaume shirt boys? Yeah, absolutely awesome. Yeah. Barrelled into me, I remember going, seriously? Really? Did you? Yeah, I was like, really?

Honestly? Didn't even turn around and say sorry. I was like really? honestly? didn't even turn around and say sorry I was like I genuinely have just been squished by you sir I remember

because I fell into Archie like arms akimbo oh my god that's so bad yeah I genuinely almost got trampled

by the man and he didn't even apologise and then it happened again and I kept getting shoved into and then Archie's like well you are in a club I'm like

yeah he did he was like well you are in a club. I'm like, yeah he did. He was like, well you are in a club at the end of the day. He was. I was like, I was like. They were all above like at least. At least six, five above. Yeah. As soon as the boys leave us, then they approach.

In the sense of. The freaks. Oh, oh, what was that one that came up and you had? I'm fat. You were like. I was were like i was like this guy this guy we're dancing this guy starts to like dance in between us so then we start to move he then starts to follow us then we're dancing and dancing and then he keeps trying to like come up to the side and i'm just trying to like elbow him out i'm like like, then I move us right into the corner.

He reaches his arm over me to try and touch you and he's like, you're such a beautiful girl. You're really beautiful. Elbow. I'm like, I'm like,

it's all. Yeah, you did. You elbowed him in the throat. I did not elbow him in the throat. You did. I did not. Boom. I'll double.

Boom. I was like, come on, Kasey. I love eavesdropping on conversations. I mean, come on Katen I love eavesdropping I mean you shouldn't be able to eavesdrop on conversations in a club

but I could it was the how shit the music was there were these two boys behind me and I was listening to their conversation

and one of them said that there were a group of prostitutes at the front of the club yeah and said

which one have you hired he said that he'd hired the one on the left and i was like oh so then i'm trying to look at these people yeah then the other guy goes have you hired one he's like no but i really want to and he was like oh where have they come from and i was like oh it's just this company and then they were like talking about it i was like oh my god it's weird maybe i'm naive but i didn't know this thing happened in the club. No, yeah.

So then he goes over, and he like, I see that he's like got cash, and he's like, and then he, No. He grabs her hand, and they're like,

oh, let's go. And then walks off, and what? Maybe I'm so, maybe I am so sheltered. What? I was like, I didn't know these things happened in the club.

Not in the club. That's crazy. I've never seen that happen before. Neither have I. I've never seen that happen. I was like, oh my god, what's going on? What's going on? There. That's crazy. And have you heard about that boyfriend cheating on his girlfriend? That's the thing. So we were dancing and there was this guy behind you

that was chatting and he was trying to talk to some girl and he was with another friend. This other guy's talking to this guy. He's like, do you want to know one thing about my friend Alex? And this Alex was like getting with this other girl and all that. He's like, yeah, Alex has actually got a girlfriend, but not for tonight kind of thing. Oh my God. And I'm just sat there and it's one of those things that you're like i'm totally imposing on this situation like i'm i am completely not a part of this conversation

but it makes you want to like i think the girl that he was talking to actually pulled alex the girl alex was getting with him was like he's got a girlfriend i think they were friends because i'm sat there like girl code someone has to say something, surely. Like, that's bad. It's such a hard one. It is a genuinely hard one because it's like, it's on them. It's not my girl's fault, is it? Yeah, if he's not said anything, then it's not really your girl's fault, is it? Yeah, that's a really difficult one.

Okay, Kylie Leach, let's get on to the next bit. Ikaroonis. Ikaroonis, can I say? Yeah. Ikaroonis. Toxic trait over here I think girls can't give guys the ick. Girls cannot give men the ick. Girls girls can't I think girls can give men the ick a lot less than guys can give girls the ick. Yeah. For sure. Okay what's your ick tell me. My ick is when people don't ask questions back. Oh that's a huge ick. I huge it i found something i can definitely relate with this guy

that we met on saturday night um had some had a lovely conversation with about a 25 to 30 minute conversation i would say yeah um of asking lots and lots and lots of questions okay um you yeah i was you know asking so much about him and what he does and then and i'm not saying you've got to ask me my life story i'm not saying anything like that however 25 30 minutes i'm expecting a few questions just talking about his life and his life seems very interesting and he seems like a very lovely boy however oh no that's annoying i was so self-indulgent i was as soon as he finished it was like the conversation just ended oh wow so and he was like so yeah yeah yeah and then he just kind of walked off and i was like oh all right see you later i know i just thought how odd. Katie recently experienced when she was performing that some people just love to talk about themselves. Yeah.

I mean... I mean, don't get me wrong. It's everyone's favourite subject. Yeah. But I feel you have to be self-aware to then go, yeah, like, so I've heard about you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm really good and I do this.

And how about you? How about you? What are you doing? Why would you not do that i i just think it's manners like even if you're not interested do you think it's manners or stupidity do you think some people stupid and don't even realize i think potentially some people can get whisked away because i know for a fact i can get whisked away and like talking and you know yeah um but i will always reflect and be like oh my god i absolutely don't think i let that person talk like i think i just talked out that person for a while

um however i feel like it's got to be a bit of both you have to play the tug of war yeah even if you're not interested in the person you have have to. Absolutely. Yeah. Fake it till you make it, guys. So that is my ick of the week. What is your ick of the week, Kitty Millie? My ick is irrational, as always. But I think absolutely needed to say it on the podcast. Please say it. Why do people run across the road?

Why are you doing that? A car's coming? Why are you running? They'll have to stop. Why are you running for your life? That is embarrassing. No, that is pathetic. So I was crossing the road the other day and I mean, if it was illegal in this country to, what's it called, jaywalk? Yes. If it was illegal in this country, I would be for life. I'd be in prison for life.

I do it all the time. I don't wait for the green man. Green man's patronising. Why are you doing that to me? Let me walk. I've got control of my legs. There's a point of me that actually respects the people more that wait than the ones that kind of go and then have to run. I was walking across the road and there was this boyfriend and girlfriend and the boyfriend saw the green man. And this's like we're not gonna make scream his girlfriend we're gonna make it we're gonna make it he starts running he's like running and then kind of turns back and he's like he starts running i'm like what is going on when you're local to somewhere you can also tell like i know for a fact the crossing outside our flat the when the light turns off green i have at least 20 seconds to get across yeah because i just i feel like i know the traffic lights by now yeah however i feel like as a pedestrian i'm sat there like what are they gonna do shoot me you have to find me first i'm like yeah i'm sat there like what car's gonna knock me down they'll pay for it yeah like do you worst sir no do you worst but as

a driver yeah when someone does that i'm like some people have no respect for the road yeah i completely get you so i've actually got another if as well oh yeah that happened to me it was personal oh and i was like wow really so this boy that we beefed that i beefed with yeah i actually haven't told you this this boy that i beefed with um and then i called him the same name that he called me because i'm just about to like that he was just he was just i just played the game like that um so we were talking quite close prop sevens this bar was quite small yeah he says to me oh like oh sorry you've you've got something on your nose? You've got...

So then I'm like, oh, shit. Like, so humiliated. So I'm like rubbing my nose, like, oh, there? And he's like, no. Oh, God. And I'm like, oh, here?

Like, he's like, no. And I'm like, then tell me where it is. Tell me where it is. It gets worse. No. He's like, oh, it's just there? And I'm like,

that's a spot. He didn't. He did. I think that's so fucking stupid. He did. He did. That's so stupid. Then he tries to redeem himself.

He says, oh, I know. It's like me. I've got loads of spots. Didn't have one spot in sight. Oh, God. I'm thinking, don't you? Don't. This is why you never say anything. Don't.

If I've got spinach in my teeth, tell me. Oh, you've just got a bit more, thank you. What's that on your face? What is that? What's that on your face? I can't believe it. It's actually like this. You know this beauty mark I got when I was born?

I like to call it a beauty mark. Some people call it a mole, and I'm like, it's not a mole. It's not a mole. It's a beauty mark. It's a beauty mark. It's a beauty mark, some people call it a mull and I'm like it's not a mull, it's a beauty mark It's something completely different It's not a mull, it's a beauty mark It's a beauty mark Yes it's not a mull

So the ick is that scenario That Just that scenario I was like wow, I was like I am repulsing, I was like lovely, I was like okay then fine I was like, I am repulsing. I was like, lovely. I was like, okay then, fine. I was like, I'll just walk off then. So I'm Big Bertha around the loft. Yeah, Big Bertha in the corner. Big Bertha in the loft, I see.

Miss Havisham. Repulsing to men. Fine, fine, fine, fine. Someone said I'm an eyesore. Fine. Now, we're on to my favourite bit of the podcast questions questions questions questions questions questions question katie you've got serious this week which i'm so excited about because you um are more natural than silly i feel yes so when you're serious i I'm like, oh God, tables are turning. Yeah. Okay, hit me. So, would you rather your best friend be in love with your boyfriend or...

You got something to tell me? I'm like, you found the shrine, Archie. Like, what's going on? Or you be in love with your best friend's boyfriend if you'd rather me be in love with Archie or you be in love with my hypothetical boyfriend well I'd have to say be in love with my boyfriend I'd have to because I love God, okay. I'm emotional now. Okay, that's not a deep podcast. That's not a deep podcast.

I'd have to pick, I'd have to say, for them to be in love with him. And then I'd also be like, yeah, I get you, girl. I'd be like, I get what you love in me, too. I've seen that badly. I've seen him. I find it hard because I wouldn't want to hurt her. Yeah.

And I wouldn't want to shove it in her face or be like, oh, we're so happy. Yeah. But then I'd also be like, get over it, Dicker. Yeah, it's very much

a them problem if they are. Yeah. The onus is on them to kind of get over it. Yeah. And which I know Arch wouldn't, but if I know that Arch is not giving any sense of leading them on,

then I'd be like, well, as much as I love you, darling, it's your issue. Yeah. You know, I'd be so almost grateful, but it's a really bittersweet situation if they told me, if they said, oh, I'm in love with Arch. That's so weird. I'd be like, that's very... It's a wild conversation. Yes.

Very trusting you told me that. Let me reflect and know what to do with that information. Yeah. But I'd have to because I don't love anyone else, so I'd have to. Yeah. So, capisce? Capisce. Could you?

And would you tell your friend? I don't think I would tell the friend. I think, what's the point no i think they're so happy as well yeah yeah if they were so you have to get over it yeah it literally just be like this is i'd lean on other people that wasn't them yeah i think it's one of those things that you'd be like i've got to get over that again like if you're getting nothing reciprocated you'd have to be like, God, this is bad. Just get some distance from the situation. Yeah, you'd have to, yeah.

And then be like, okay, I need to get past now. Okay. Mine's a would you rather as well, actually. Okay, would you rather. It's all in the realm of debrief. We're all talking about nights out. Yeah. Would you rather on a night out, go out clubbing.

And this is every night out, every single would you rather on a night out go out clubbing and this is every night out every single night you go in a club every single man every single man hits on you every single man okay so they're like whether that's touch you or whether that's can i buy a drink or whether that's how's your night going classic richard Or whether that's, how's your night going? Classic Richard. Classic Richard, we love you. Or whether that's dancing with you. But every man, not even just the ones you find attractive, every single man. Even the bouncers.

Even the bouncers. Every man hits on you. Okay. The creep that's in their late 40s, early 50s, hits on you. Everyone. Yeah. Or every night you go out out no one looks at you and when i say no one

there's not it's like you're invisible so it's like if i'm a guy my eyesight's like doesn't even it's not like they even go you're invisible to them oh my god that happened no i told you. Oh my God, I have to tell the podcast actually. Slight detour. When we went out to Little Blue Dawn, two of the people we were with saw this guy who was very attractive. They were both quite drunk and didn't see.

He was clearly with someone else. He was with a girl. They were very affectionate. Oh God. They were directly behind me. Oh God. One of the people we were directly behind me. Oh, God. One of the people we were with says to our other friend, don't you think Katie would look great with that guy behind her?

The other friend goes, oh, my God, Jo, I'm going to do this. Taps this guy on the shoulder. Does the how I met you other have you met Katie? I'm sat there going, no, no, no, no, no. I feel like they didn't see that he was literally like necking this other girl no this guy turns around

looks me up and down he's like no how A embarrassing and then the girl looked like she wanted she looked like she wanted to take it outside. Yeah, she wanted to get you. I was so embarrassed.

And he was literally like, no, no, thank you. I was like, oh. Okay, then. Cool. Cool. I'm going to get back under my bridge. Little troll I am. But similarly, that's never a nice feeling.

I would say, like, no one would ever approach you anyway. This is the option, like no one would approach you. But if someone then introduced you to them, they'd be like, no, they would genuinely be like, say things, and turn away. I don't know if, but I think constantly being asked, like constantly being badgered on a night out would make me not want to go on a night out.

Okay. Like, constantly being like, unless they're gorgeous, but it's like, they never really are in the club. But then even if you are in the club and you get with this really, really fit guy that you're loving, you wouldn't stop everyone else.

They keep going. They're pulling you. Potentially, it. Yeah. Who wouldn't stop everyone else. They keep going. They're, like, pulling you. Potentially, it could probably help me get with someone in a club because everyone's like, who's this girl? Yeah. Your eyes are on this girl. Yeah. Who is she?

Who is she? Who is she? I think, but I think the novelty would wear off very quickly. Whereas I would rather probably go on a night out. I think I would go for the latter. I would think I genuinely would rather go out um with my friends who know me and just be like I know no one's going to approach me and just try and find love elsewhere okay okay I think that's I respect that I think it would just be too much yeah I think I'd enjoy it for like the first month. I agree. It would be scary.

What would you do? Well, I would have to pick not, get no attention. Yeah. Because I'd be with Arch anyway so I'd be like,

fine. Yeah. But if I was single, I'd be like, all the attention. I feel like, I feel like, I'd be like,

everyone. I feel like attention on a night out is great except when it's like, I feel like, I feel like, everyone. I feel like attention on a night out is great. Except when it's like, misplaced. Except when it's not. Except it's really fun until it's not. Until it's not. But that's the best description of it.

Yeah. It's so good and then it's not and you're like, do you know what? Piss off. Like, don't touch me. Yeah. Don't speak to me. Don't ask to buy, actually do buy me a drink and give speak to me don't ask to buy actually do buy me a drink

and give it to me actually to be fair that's a bonus actually isn't it free drinks all night free entry free entry I could bat the weirdos away

and just keep fit maybe I will change my answer could you bat the weirdos on your own probably not the weirdos do love me I do I love you You're a little freak.

Yeah. Guys, what do you think? Would you rather be constantly giving the eye? Constantly badgered. Constantly badgered or never? Because I feel like the ones that are really inappropriate are the ones that should never step foot out of the house. Agreed. Agreed. I'm like, you should be locked up. You know, like the patient. I'm like, chain yourself to the bed. That is great.

If you have anyone seen that, what's his name? I love him. Steve Carell. Steve Carell. Oh, I love Steve Carell. That was the most emotional thing I've ever seen. Yeah. I bawled my eyes out. I was so sad.

You didn't as well. I didn't sleep for days. I was terrified. That was so sad. You didn't. I didn't sleep for days. I was terrified. That was so good. It was very intense. Great acting. Absolutely love you, Steve. Shout out.

Black guys. Let's see you for a while. Actually, it's not going to affect them, asshole. It's not going to affect, but it's going to affect me. It's going to affect me. It's going to affect us. When you next hear the episode,

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Thank you. I got a rebel soul. Yeah, I got a rebel soul. I got a rebel soul.