The Debrief - Belly Button Business | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

Welcome back to The Debrief! This week we had a Debrief sent in by a listener all about belly button hygiene which sparked a huge convo that inspired this weeks episode about all things hygiene. As always don't forget to email us [e-mail] or DM us @the.debriefpodcast with any debriefs or dilemmas.Have an amazing week, Lots of love,K+K xxx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Daybreak! Hello guys! Hello, hello, hello! Monday! Oh, we've done that one? That is a banger. I feel so in recommendation. Truly actually, that's a banger. Yes. Perfect. How have you been, chicken? Do you know what? I've been really good. It's hit me like a ton of bricks.

Or two here and five. Congested. And snively. I'm sniveling last weekend. I was just like, I was at Archie's house, which was lovely, but fucking hell, I just felt like getting into bed. Yes. Going to sleep. Oh my God, I was at Archie's house, which was lovely, but fucking hell, I just felt like getting into bed. Yes. Going to sleep.

Oh my god, I don't blame you. Genuinely, like I woke up and I was just like, and I couldn't get to sleep. I was shivering. I was warm. I was shivering. No. Oh, I was walking around the house, like I met Archie's dad at like 6.30 in the morning. Yeah.

He was like heading off to work and I was like in my underwear, like, I just can't sleep. Honestly, it was like a big buzzer in the attic. I'm like, oh my god. I know. I bless you. And then it seems to be a little bit of a round. I know, it's going round. How are you feeling?

Fine? I'm actually feeling okay. Knock on, knock on what? Touch wood, touch wood. I've been taking like double doses of vitamin C though, because apparently like it, because it's water soluble. If you can't really overdose on vitamin C though, because apparently like it because it's water soluble if you can't really overdose on vitamin C. My mum has been sending me full routines like as much as you can.

Yeah. To you. Big time. Avoid the plague. Honestly, I'm avoiding it, avoiding it and then we'll be good. What was the plague? It can't have been a flu. What was the rat thing?

That was the plague. Was that the plague? That was the plague. It was the rat thing. But they got it from rats. Yes. Is that all? Yes.

Yeah. That's a bit scary because rats were all over London back then. Oh, scampering away. Oh, it'd be terrible. Yeah, big time. It'd be terrible. Big time. Right, so tell me your mantra because it's lovely Monday.

My mantra is, I'm going to preface this. Oh, tell me. There's been, there's been a supermoon. There has been. There's been a supermoon and I actually woof woof was on my period during the supermoon. Fuck off, Alpha. Alpha. So I read that apparently you were even more sensitive.

I've been truth be told a little bit sensitive the past few days. So my mantra is stop and breathe. Stop and drop. Stop drop. Take a mindful breath. Stop and breathe. I literally I woke up, I'd be waking up, my heart was beating and I can't even like, I can't even explain to you.

I'm feeling like a stressed little bunny rabbit and I feel genuinely like fine in life. Have you been meditating? So I've been doing a few meditations. I've been pulling cards left, right and fucking center. I've been having to do the stopping and breathing and I genuinely was doing it constantly. But I feel like I'm over the hump now with that kind of emotional time. But I wrote these at the time of that emotional peak actually. Niamh So you were like, I know where you're coming from. Chantelle Yes.

Niamh I know. Chantelle Yeah, what's your mantra? Niamh So my mantra for this week is, I'm manifesting all my dreams coming true. Chantelle Oh, I love that. Niamh Look at you, coming true. Oh I love that! Look at you Kamau! I wish I had like the fairy wand to just get it's... yes! Wish but I feel like I'd get selfish with my wishes.

You'd have it all. Spa day. Yes! I would! I would! I love it! All my dreams are coming true and you know what's hilarious? I'm telling the universe, so the universe is like, oh shit, yeah sorry. Oh my god, no seriously. Oh my god, oh my god, sorry. The universe has sat on its buchiquis and you're like, oh shit, I'm so sorry. We haven't done such a great job so far. But we could be doing better. We could be doing a little bit more universe. Yeah, yeah. But still grateful. Still always grateful. From Jane Lynch herself. Always grateful. yourself always grateful. He's king. Absolutely So my song for this week. Yes

suddenly I see See by now Be suddenly I said yes, see Everything feels so much... Yeah! The words are on the words! It's not on the words! Why? Why?

Why the hell it means so much to me? Everything feels so much... So I've been getting into my cycling. Bradley Wiggins ring, yes. I'm not to boast. No, no, no. I've been doing about six hours of cycling a week. Oh my god.

I've been cycling two and from rehearsals three times a week. It's an hour there and an hour back. Oh my god. While having the plague. That's foolish. I know, but the universe is rewarding. Yes, yes. I am fish and into the sea.

Plus I've tried to look for some hot girl tunes. Oh, it has very suddenly I see was quite a main character moment. But it really is. Do you know what? That's the opening montage of as well. Where's Prada? While she's crossing the road, you are so right. So good. So tell me your song for this week. My song for this week is it's okay I'm okay

by Tate McCray it actually it's like um it's okay I'm okay and then there's a verse that it's okay I'm okay but but it's okay I'm okay and then you can have them anyway yeah it's a banger and it's also kind of like reflecting your life. I'm okay. It's okay. I'm okay. I'm like loving life. Yeah. I'm okay.

Literally. You can tell. Yeah. Now what I don't get about the word okay. Yeah. When is it right to do okay or okay ay? Oh, sometimes I see literature okay ay. And sometimes I see the literature OKAY, and sometimes I see OKAY.

I like OKAY compared to OKAY because I think OKAY is quite blunt. It's a bit like, alright. OKAY. OKAY is like, OKAY! Yes, yeah exactly. Look in the bard in the corner. This is a fucking diallel. It is though.

But it is, it is. If I was actually saying would you like to pick up some toy roll and you did OKAY, I'd Go on. This is tough, you could die like that. I know. It is though. But it is, it is. If I told you, she's saying, would you like to pick up some toy roll and you did OK, I'd think you'd go OK. I'm under the assumption that I'm like OK. If you ever send me OK, I'd be like, oh, she's clearly busy. I think you'd send it from your watch or something. Do you know what I said? Oh my god.

Kids have been getting text messages the other day, but it was all dictated off our watch. And it was like, so sorry if this sounds really weird, I am on watch. I genuinely was like, oh. It made me talk so much. You know when you're like in thought, I was like on the toilet, I was like, shut down your stuff. He says, didn't have my phone with me. Oh, who's going to be on it? Siri.

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Only musicals. No way. Apart from A Streetcar Named Desire, which was in Cambridge. Must see more horse growing up. No. Fuck off. Horrible histories live I went to see growing up, but that's not really a play. And that would have been play. Yeah, so I went to see Coriolanus at the National. Now I felt me my favorite Shakespeare play. I found it so, it was confusing.

Don't get me wrong. I thought everyone was very good. I thought I thought from any upcomers or was it all quite a few people that well I didn't know anyone but I understand that the person playing Coriolanus is a more household name. David oh I can't pronounce his last name. What else has he been at? I'm sure. Okay. But it was good.

I enjoyed it. I thought the set was really cool. I thought the stuff they did was really interesting. Did I zone out at points? Yes. Yeah. Okay. That was about, I just, I think the thing I didn't realize was Shakespeare, which

I, it sounds silly because I've read Shakespeare before. They love to talk. Yes, and they love to repeat. Yes. It's like opera. Yes. It's like they keep going on and they see the same scene three times. Yes. With Shakespeare, they do one scene which goes on for 20 minutes and they're saying

the same thing over and over again. Literally. But how could you? Yeah. I wouldn't. But you did. But I didn again. Literally. But how could you? Yeah. I wouldn't. But you did, but I didn't. Yes. And all they kept saying, across all of Rome, chaos. And I was like, yeah. Well, then I got really confused because they kept calling him Caius. And I'm like, his name's Coriolanus. I'm like, why are they calling him Caias? But I had a good time.

It was great. I was like, I missed out on things. I was sat there and then as well, I got tickets sat away from my group as well. So I was sat there. I was on my own like. What did they think of it? They all really liked it. I felt very sophisticated.

I bet you did. John C. Coughlin. At the National. Oh, very sophisticated. It makes me want to see importance of being honest actually with Shruti Ghatwa. Oh what is he doing now? November. I really want to see that. I'd love to see that. Yeah. So shall we go on to the next debrief. Right Katie. So this week, we've had a story sent in by a listener that has sparked a lot of questions and intrigue.

Yes. And it's mainly about good old classic hygiene. I'm so excited. We will get onto the story in a second, but for now we're going to discuss what we learned about hygiene and what was taught to us in school, whether there was a lot, whether there wasn't, and what we can remember about it. Before I go any further, I just gotta say one thing. It's about hygiene.

Yeah, sort of. I was at Archie's house today. Yeah. And obviously Archie's got two dogs. Yeah. I've been taking the dogs for the walk. Oh. So awesome, so awesome.

So awesome. Percy. Yeah. Robbed himself in fox shit. No. If fellow, fellow lissies out there, if you've experienced the gag of fox shit, you'll know what I mean. I've never heard of it.

He comes a-warf thinking of thought shit. You'll know what I mean. I've noticed that. He comes a-wafting through the house. Katie, I was retching so bad, I had vomit in my mouth. Shut up. And I was like, stinky men. But I was on carpet when it was happening, so I was like, oh my god, oh my god, I was like coming down the stairs. I was like, don't vomit on the carpet. And then he kept coming through and I was like, oh my god.

I'm literally going to vomit. No, you're joking. Disgusting. Just and the fact dogs do that and like bad vibes. But like bad, why are you doing that? Bad vibes. Why are you doing that? Why?

Hilarious. Back to hygiene. Tell me what were you taught at school? So after like, it is very related to the dilemma. I'm trying to think I don't think it's very much like why I feel like it's more a parental responsibility to teach about hygiene. I remember, like they encourage hand washing. Yeah, school. Yeah. But like, we did sex ed, but it wasn't like, this is how you this how you should wash. This is how long you brush your

teeth for. It was mainly just like make sure you wash your hands like if you go to the toilet and then the teacher be like did you wash your hands and you're like yeah. But like that's really it. Completely and I was reflecting on this before the episode and I think the only time genuinely yeah, had you was encouraged when it was when it came to it. Yeah. That's when it was big on do your hand washing all this time, do it for the amount of what was it? Happy birthday twice.

Yeah. Doing happy birthday. Yeah. Making sure you like, it made me a lot more conscious that getting unwell and all of that is from the hands. Yes. Which before I was like, oh, it's going to make cake sneezes on me or two. No, no. Yeah. But touching surfaces, touching your face.

Remember COVID don't touch your face. Don't touch your face. Wash your hands, mask, all that kind of stuff. I mean, COVID taught me loads. But I think back in school, I'm like, obviously boarding school, you shower, all that kind of stuff. So the showers are there. And because we're doing so much sport, everyone showers anyway because it's like, what we're doing sport four or five times a week.

So of course we're going to be showering. I don't know, personally, I'm always in the habit of, I wake up, I shower, I go. Some people are like, personally, it's so strange. Wake up, don't shower. Have the whole day then shower before bed. That's me. See, I'm not a morning shower. I find this fascinating.

But I tell you why. It comes from a place of laziness because I want more time in bed. If I could get up and actually incorporate a shower before I leave, I would. But alas, I prioritize a few more snoozers. And you know what, and I respect that. Yeah, I also read before the podcast that it's actually healthier for your own like physical health to shower before bed. Because apparently you're doing it right. Because I thought it would always be better to shower in the morning because it wakes you up. Probably. Maybe something mentally is good about that. Yeah, like clay.

You're supposed to shower before bed. Interesting. So you're not supposed to get into bed with like, of course, what is it? You always wash before bed. So they're like, you need to wash your body too. And I'm like, well, it's one of those things that I find interesting that like back to the showering thing. No one once, no one once was like teacher wise was like you need

to shower every day. No one told me that. No, you just kind of like, was like, you need shower every day. No one taught me that. No. No one taught me that. You just kind of like... Also hair. Hair. Like girls.

Yeah. Also I feel like you kind of need like a bit of guidance because it's not, it would be unhealthy to wash your hair for like, if you didn't wash it like in 10 days or something like you would get greasy. But for some girls they wash it every day because it gets so greasy. Yeah. Whereas I can leave it like maybe four days, five at the max but then it'll feel really like...

Yeah, yeah. I usually try to do it twice a week. Yeah. Yeah. I usually try to do it twice a week. Yeah. But some girls can do a whole week because they're like, oh my hair doesn't really get greasy and all of that kind of stuff.

Yeah. Also depends on the sport. If you're doing loads of running, my hair doesn't really get greasy and all of that kind of stuff. Yeah. Also depends on the sport. If you're doing loads of running, your hair will get really sweaty. It's so sweaty. I actually found that when we did our graduate show. Like, I was sweaty every night and I was having to wash my hair more. I hate washing my hair. You hate it.

I hate it. I love having to wash my hair more. I hate washing my hair. I hate it. I find no part of it enjoyable at all. I usually try and wash my hair once a week. Do you ever wash your hair in the bath? No. I actually, I'm a bit sadistic in the sense that like I will not wash my hair in the bath. If I want a bath, it's very wasteful. But if I want a bath, I have to shower in the morning or in the day first, wash my hair and then I'll have a bath later. But bathing is purely relaxing. Yes. I actually had a bath while you guys were away.

I did. It was very nice. I was going to say, is that to do with feminine hygiene. Yes. Like down wonder. Yeah. No one told me about that. Also no one told me about like discharge or anything like that. So that was kind of like a, as in school, my dad was really good with like any questions I had. Yeah, yeah. My school told me that, you know, panty layers might be a good idea if you're on a certain time on your period. Yeah. You

know, or even how often to change your pad. I was never told that. I was just about to say that. I was never told. Same with tampons. Tampons helped me change. Yeah. The only thing I was told at tampons at school is don't sleep with them.

Yeah. But I wasn't told, change them this amount or. Yeah, no. Oh my God, I have read this thing the other day from a guy. Like it was on some stupid online thing. Yeah. Like, you know, online magazine. Yeah, yeah. Boyfriend had written in saying they think a girlfriend when they're on their period has it once and it goes as in they go to the toilet going I just got

my period. All the blood comes out and it's got. Oh, I said how funny is that? Oh. I know. Right, dad. So let's crack on and dissect this story. I have never been more excited. This is really funny. And it genuinely like, it sent me into a bit of like a, yeah, interesting. So tell me, tell me the main issue. she says, hello, last week I went on a date with a guy who was a full on germaphobe and clean freak. Those words sound bad, so I just want to add that he was a lovely person. I just don't know how else to describe him. He mentioned that the one body part we all neglect is our belly buttons. And it made me realize that I never specifically clean my belly button until now, I didn't know we needed to. Hang on a sec. Hang on a fucking second.

We need to take a value book. Well, this is, right? So this is, so then, so she says, did you girls know this slash do you do this? Right, before we go into murder, I have no fucking idea. No, I dig in for gold in there right now. I've got no idea. I genuinely, this is giving the same energy as like a thing came out on TikTok like months

ago about guys not washing their legs because they put like body wash on and they just assume it will trickle down. It became like this thing where girls would ask their boyfriends like do you wash actively wash your legs in the shower? And they were like, no, this gives the same energy because I had no clue. do you wash actively wash your legs in the shower? No, no my ass. Oh, I can't. What? When I got home, I had a deep clean... Oh bless my family. I had a deep clean of my belly button and was shocked at how dirty it was. He advised using cotton pads and soap, which felt really weird in there at first. I mentioned this on our girls WhatsApp group and they were all the same as me.

They'd never properly clean their belly buttons. One of my friends has an auntie so it wasn't bad but the rest of the spinnies had so much crud oh my god i'm gonna is this not something we should have been taught i think we should have been taught this i i'm like no one fucking told me to hit my belly button no i'm it's i'm i'm actually scared that i'm gonna go later before bed and be like, get a little cotton bud. Like, what's in there? What the fuck? No.

I also find belly buttons cringe. No, I actually... Like, what's the point of it? Like, when they're just... They're just... They're just... Sometimes they're like, oh... I find belly buttons really unsettling.

I'm not a fan of a belly button. No. No, not at all. And I'm gonna shave hair. I'm even less than a fan of a belly button. No, no, not at all. And I'm gonna shave hair. I'm even less than a fan of an outie. Pop it back in. Outies, but I don't understand. I don't understand outies.

You can't get a quick cut, do you know that? Is it? Because I've never understood why. The reason why that they've got an outie is because they cut it there, so it's like. It's not. So you can choose if you have an outie or not. I believe so. Yeah. Oh my god. Design a belly button. My dad cut my belly button.

Did you know? I actually don't. Well, I'll say well, yeah. Oh, wow. She's like, she's got my bloody teeth. Yeah. Oh my god, that's so interesting. But it does raise a very genuine question that I feel like we learn so much about hygiene socially. I think we need to do a poll. Yeah. Before this comes out. Being like, what's the vibe? Does anyone clean their belly button? Do you know what some people say after some people go, yeah, I do. No, you don't. No, because it's the same as people who are like, maybe I'm out in myself here, but people who say like, oh, I wash my feet in the shower, like put like soap on their feet.

I'm like, no, I don't do that. No one fucking does that. Well, the water washes my feet. Exactly. I've also got stood in, you're stood in soap. Like, yeah. So washing your hair, it all goes on your feet. But I feel like it's very nice.

It's just interesting. Because I'm washing your hair, it all goes on your feet. But I feel like it's very nice. It's just interesting. Because I'm like, you're right. Did she say anything else? Like, did she say what she did? Like, did she clean the belly button? Yes, she did. And she, and there was gunk. Oh, Katie, I can't.

But then, but the thing actually, the thing that's humbling to me about this is that it was a guy she went on a date with. Yeah. Imagine if I went on a date with a guy and he was like, did you clean your belly button? Firstly, odd. Also odd, but also good chat. Depending on yes. Could be good chat.

I'm like, easily swooped. But also, completely. Yeah. Also like, maybe we're sitting on one side here, maybe he's the fucking freak. Well, if he's getting a cotton pad every night, giving it a once over. Giving it a little squint. But then again, I would rather get with someone that has good hygiene. Yeah, so would I, to be fair, because in fairness, there's nothing worse.

Ugh, remember that? Ehh! To be fair, I was on public transport the other day yeah and I had to move because the smell of an individual did someone smell and you know what's even worse Kato yeah is they look to proceed this is what I don't understand because it's bullshit that people can't smell their own stank because they say they yeah, I can. Yeah, if I'm for a day, I can be like, Oh God, let me have a shower. I saw some deodorant on. It got to a point actually like when we were rehearsing for Into the

Woods, that like the stench in the room and everyone at one point. I still don't know to this day, who was the culprit. Minging, Minging. Because obviously we're moving around and it's because we're moving around and it's so sweaty. I'm checking myself every five, but there was an aroma in the room to the point our stage management like bought us all deodorant. It was humbling. But I was like, but everyone like every five seconds were like, is it me? Is it me?

Do you have the theory? I have my suspicions. I have my suspicions. You left them. But it was, yeah, that stuff to me is just so interesting. Me too. Completely. Right, so should we do a deeper FDi number?

Let's do one. Right, so I've got a brilliant one. Tell me. Hey, girlies, I need your advice. Young bisexual girl here and currently for the first time ever pursuing a woman. Love that. Exciting. Everything is amazing and completely eye opening. She's beautiful, kind, caring, my family even love her too. Great sex, but there's one issue. There's always one issue. Do you know the Friends episode where Ross goes to a co-worker's house only to find the place to be a complete mess with no place to live?

Do you remember that episode? Guys, if you haven't seen it, just search up like Ross dates girl with messy house. It is like, what the fuck? She's so hot. She's so pretty. Then it gets over and it's disgusting. The girl's house I'm seeing is exactly like that and that is not only the worst part she also is one of those people I'm like one of those people but she goes one of those people who never takes a shower why aren't you showering darling well why aren't you showering, darling? What? Why aren't you showering?

I can barely stand next to her for a few seconds at the moment. Oh, what? I didn't know what to do. I suggested we go on a dog walk together, in which we got muddy, so then we could... Oh my god! What are you doing? And I said, subtly, oh, you can go first, to which she said, oh gosh, yeah, no worries, I haven't actually show shared in three weeks. No. She goes, I think you're up to date.

I genuinely fancy her. I think she could be my future, but it's not, but it's starting to put me off introducing her to anyone else, e.g. my friends, because I'm embarrassed. What should we do? I mean... Get in the fucking shower, love. I mean...

Maybe, because there are exceptions. If she's struggling with her mental health, then I can say, forgive her for that. But that hasn't been stated. So yeah. So I'm like, get your fucking arms in the shower off. Because that because Jenny, I feel like there are some people who genuinely are like, I'm fine. That's that's what not three weeks is wild.

That's wild. It's three weeks. And also like, isn't that not like a deterrent in your like sex life? Well, do you remember that person we knew? Yeah, his boyfriend was very unhygienic. Yes. She said that it stopped them having sex. Well, yeah, you would've wanted to. Not only stop them having sex, I'd be getting out of my bed. I have silk pillows. If you're on my silk pillows honking up the place. Because get out. See, maybe, maybe, do you like a fun little saucy like, do you want to take a shower together?

Put me in. I'd be getting so much soap on. And you go in fucking scrubbing her down. I was such this is the thing. This is why I thought it's an interesting topic because it is a very socially awkward topic that someone smells unless it is and it's personal. It is. It's so personal. It's not like, oh, well, I suppose even saying something like, oh, you've pissed me off, you can sort

that out. But you having to go to someone you smell, like you smell. But our friend did it. She told her boyfriend. She was like, well, you have to at one point. Now look, she never said how the conversation, no no she didn't say the exact words. Yeah. But she did say Honky Muck Honk Pants. Honk Honk. And he was like, I'm aware of it. But it didn't then make him wash along. But what's crazy to me is the I'm aware of it.

And I'm like, so right. I'm like, what are you going to do? Like, really, Patsy, darling, if you really like her, but you're saying to us, you're embarrassed to introduce her to your friends because she sings, you can't be next to her for more than a few seconds, and that she hasn't shown up in weeks, and you're tricking her into going to dog balls, so she gets muddled. That's crazy. I think personally, you need to just have a sit down chat with her. And look, it's hypocritical because I don't even know how to go about this because I think it's awkward But it's one of those things that maybe she's not aware

Maybe she's maybe she is unaware. So maybe it's worse though being unaware and being told or being aware and being told unaware, do you think oh Because I think I'd rather be aware. No, because then... Because they've still got heads up. But a mental, like... I'm like, well, I know, that's already... But you're like, you stink.

Because I'm like, do I? Have I ever told you the story about my mum once? I know. But my mum was a child, I mean, it's class of 80s. And when my mum was a child, she said to this boy that she fancy him, and he like no not you you're a fat pig and she said what and she said am i she said i wasn't even offended she was like am i actually you know am i oh she was like i told you i was very confused she was like i didn't know i was chubby and she said i just didn't do it. She said, oh, am I chubby? Am I? And she said, honestly, she's bound around the wall. Oh, bless her. Oh, honestly, she's so... Kids are so fucking cruel. Oh, no, they're the worst. But if I was unaware and I was

living my life, I then would have secondhand embarrassment from everyone I've ever met in my entire life because I'd be thinking, oh my God from everyone I've ever met in my entire life because I'd be thinking oh my god everyone I've ever met will have thought I was stinking I completely agree completely agree But I would say She needs to listen, she needs to talk to her You need to have a conversation

It's awkward But if you combat it coming from a place of love Yeah I agree Being like I really really like you Yeah But What she thinks was coming from a place of love. Yeah, I agree. Being like, I really, really like you. Yeah. But what do you think is worse? Hygiene down there being worse? Like with your partner? Oh. Or like, BO. Hygiene down there for sure. For sure. For being worse or better? Being worse. For sure. worse oh it's so bad

it's calm no, I could take a little bit of VO firstly I've never experienced a bad smelling situation with a man ugh I can't breathe I can't yeah

she's like cold man, no cold no cold man. No cold man. No, no cold man. Totally moving on to the pages. Brilliant. So, I have, so, hi guys, I've been dating my boyfriend for around six months. He's a great guy, has the kindest heart and we're really good together. But I'm now starting to notice how bad his hygiene is.

He doesn't shower frequently, hardly ever wears deodorant, doesn't wash his clothes often enough, and leaves them on the floor of his dark, musty room where the windows are never open. That's what would get me. No ventilation. His place is pretty gross and I don't enjoy spending time there. His glasses are always caked in gunk. And he gets annoyed when I

suggest he should clean them, even though he has a customer facing job. I do suggest to him that he smells and maybe his hygiene is the reason he's having trouble getting ahead at work, but he doesn't seem to get the message and doesn't think it's a big deal. It's getting to the point I'm embarrassed to take him out because my family and friends comment to me later about how he looks to shovel and smells. This is why I was like my friend. He's also very immature for his age and I'm constantly feeling embarrassed or cringed out at the things he says. The sex is meh too and very infrequent which is a big issue

for me especially in a new relationship. I guess I'm just wondering if these things are deal breakers or if they are things I could work on with him. I don't think bad hygiene is a personality trait, but I'm worried that me nagging him about it all the time is emasculating. Although I really shouldn't have to nag in the first place. Completely. Hmm. I, yeah, you're not his mum. Nah. You're not his mum, you're not mummy. My advice, and look, I'm not an oracle, but I do speak some truth. Move on,

move on, move on. I think you're way too good for him. I think the fact that saying he's immature, I think it's gone beyond smelly. I think you've got one foot out the door and interestingly. Yeah, I think the fact that you say you're embarrassed of him, he's smelly and the sex is meh. Meh. Off you go, love. Compared to the other dilemma, here's the thing, because the other dilemma, she's saying that-

She's perfect, I could see her in my future. She's perfect, I can see her in my future and I'm also unaware she knows about this issue. He knows. He knows and he doesn't care. That's fucking mean. He's like, well. And also, I love the confidence of this woman. I'm going to so, so back you up here.

That you had the big gigantic titties to say to this man and ovaries to say to this man and ovaries, to say to this man, you stink and it's affecting your work. You know what? You know what? Good on you, gal. But do you know what's not here? It says to take it on board. No, and it feels like you've had this conversation.

What's going on? The work probably thinks, we can't have smelly going any up higher. Well, yeah, but it's interesting because it's socially off-putting no matter how nice you are it's like it's got bad breath and if you and if you smell bad breath b-o gunk just gunk like around crass i hate when people have bits of food and I'm like, oh stop it! Sort yourself out! It's so interesting though that it seems that he's aware. Oh darling, I'm sorry, I'm saying move on. So I'm saying if he's happy the way he is, then leave him. Then leave him because let him be happy. You're not gonna be. I'm sure you there are plenty of fish in the sea. Completely agree, completely agree and they'll be a much cleaner fish as well. When you say

you smell a little bit. Katie, Katie I cannot tell you if archie canes we used to. I smelled. This is but then surely so this is my thing as well. I'd see so embarrassed. If someone came to me and they were like, not gonna lie, you smell, and it's been a chronic issue. I'm not gonna lie, you smell. Like, gotta be honest. Yeah. Love you. Who we? But you stink.

You stink? Would you rather be called smelly or stinky? No. Smelly, stinky. Smelly. I think smelly is a bit nicer. Like someone said smelly, I'd be like, oh, thanks for like softening the blow. But it's all that you stink. Yeah, but then I if I heard that, I would be mortified. But I would be like showering three times a day, like doing everything I possibly

can. So the fact that someone stinks, that I'm taking me as I am. Yeah, yeah, do you know what? The difference in personality. Completely. Because the fact she's already said to him, you stink, but he's like, and? It's like, not only are you disrespecting yourself, but now you're disrespecting me. Yeah. So.

Preach. No. My eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I've just got one. Okay, so I'll start. Nothing. And I'm, hey, hey, hey boys, I'm not hating on Lynx Africa. No, I'm not hating on any click. It's just must.

They're true. Open your window. Open your window. One of all flat means I have to literally say open your window, darling. Open your window, darling. Change those blue sheets. Okay. What is wrong with men with blue sheets? Blue is either blue or gray.

White jacket. What are you doing my blue sheets? Blue is either blue or grey. White and checkered? What are you doing? They're the boys that used to have like, race cars with my sheets. Grey, for sure. Grey or blue sheets? Grey or blue sheets? Please. Tech rep now. Oh no, I don't like that. I don't like that at all.

Are you ready? Yeah. Mine is... people not washing their hands. Why? This is what I don't understand. It pisses me off the most of that. Yeah. It's not even on my ear but I'm so with you. Yeah. I didn't touch the toilet thing. Oh it doesn't fucking matter. You've been in a vicinity with poo particles,

fecal particles. And now you're gonna touch your face and they go eat. This is what I don't understand. Not on my watch. Like when people go to the toilet, especially at our big age, like in public toilets, I see people use them and not wash their hands and just walk off and I'm like, that's crazy. The confidence of an individual to do that because I'd be like... And I'm also like public toilet as well, so that's like even more, Gebs. Ten times worse. And like girl. Ten times worse.

What are you doing? Hate it. Hate it. Messy bedroom. Cannot deal with it. I cannot you doing? Hate her. Hate her. Hate it. Messy bedroom. Cannot deal with it. I cannot deal with personally. So when I first started dating Arche, I'm like, oh my god.

He would eat biscuits in his bed. And I'd come to shag him and there would be crumbs. And I'd be like, am I a mouse? Am I? Because this is me. I was like, am I a louse? Am I? Am I? Because this is me. I was like, this is me. And the lack of just flinging off the couch, staring them on the floor, then in the morning

trying to look for an outfit and rushing through a pile of clothes. I was like, I love this boy, but that's the first thing I saw out. See I can be messy. I can. I can be a messy Millie. However, it's messy. When I met Archie, his room in halls was crazy. He had blue sheep, I swear. Yeah, I think always I know they were gray. I'm telling you, it's all gray. But I'm like, I am like, I just genuinely like sometimes that the mess is crazy. And it's a bit visually stressful as well. I actually would say living with you has made me a cleaner

person. Yeah, I don't believe that I also like think that my room now is probably the cleanest like you. I kept I've kept my room like you've had to because otherwise it become a bit overwhelming yeah but I'm actually quite like I thought no fucking charge keep that thing I'm like no clothes on the floor sparkling no big hoods by inside the bed no no balls I'm like I know out of this little shimmy I'm throwing my last one last one, I've just got to say, people that don't unpack after a holiday. What are you doing? Oh! What are you doing?

I've also started doing that in the funs living with you. See, some people are so intense about it, they don't let their outside clothes get on their bed. Not that bothered. I wouldn't mind sitting on my bed. Some people. But getting back from a holiday and just then, ah fuck it, leaving that, no. Take all your shit and unpack.

Unpack. Now. Unpack right now. Now. I've got to do it. I've started doing that recently when I come back from trips because it's actually really, you wake up and you're like, I'm unpacked. I've done it.

I've done it. It's quite nice. It makes your dreams better. It's quite lovely. A road of questions. A road of questions. I am serious. dating terms better. It's quite lovely. I wrote a question. I am serious. And I am silly.

So my question to you, Katie, Rebecca Mary H. Yes. Do you think it's the duty of schools or carers slash parents to inform adolescents about hygiene? I actually would say it's more on schools. Would you? Truthfully. How come? I think there's, because also you're adapting your parents' routines. If your parents are teaching you about hygiene and you're like, you're learning from people

around you. But for example, your parents- It's like that friend of ours, his boyfriend was smelly, his parents were the same. So it's one of those things that I just feel like it is a duty of school to be like, hey, listen, you need to be showering every day. Yeah. Here's some feminine hygiene. You need to be washing well.

Yeah, completely. You know, especially on your period, talking about, I just think there's a general... Especially on your period. I think there's a gap in education where people actually learn like life skills. Washing. Yeah. Council touch. I mean, I still don't really know if I should do that. I just transfer. I just transfer. I think give us something. We never got told. No, but there's so many things like genuine like true hygiene. I think should be taught by your parents and those around you, but also by the school. Yeah, yeah.

100%. Okay, tell me your silliness my question is would you rather brush your teeth every day with Marmite oh I hate Marmite or wash your body with ketchup and I've fought really long and hard and I genuinely don't know where I'd still land. But when I wash it, do I then like, it's my soap? Yeah. So I can't use soap afterwards? No, no.

Oh fuck. This would be difficult for you because you don't like spartos. No I don't. I like ketchup. I like ketchup. I'm gonna do the body and ketchup. I hate Marmite and Vegemite Gairoo. I love Marmite. Kegemite Gatorade. I love Marmite.

Catch up, it's fine. Wouldn't really enjoy smothering it on my body. But it's supposed to be good for really blonde hair. It's like a colour match, like it's the opposite. So it brings out the blonde. Or erases any off-colour. Interesting. Oh look at that. So, oh Luna.

That's, give it a go. Wow. Give it a go. Oh, there you go, yeah. How about you? I think I'd land on the ketchup and then do like- We'd have to get a family size though. A feminine one. Yeah, and a family size ketchup, yeah.

Yeah, huge. And it would be nice little aroma. I just would worry about being sticky. Oh yeah, and then- It's like a vinegary as well. But if I was like brushing my teeth with Marmite, I'd have like Marmite in my- like it's that- That's gloopy. Me.

Marmite. You'd be like- Like brushing your teeth. It'd look like I had like tar in my teeth. I have. Yeah exactly. Exactly. I actually have.

Yeah. I'm actually trying. Right guys, and thanks for watching the episode. Thanks so much for listening. Enjoy our wee. This has been your host. No, your co-host. Katie McNeil.

Katie Leach. Yeah. Been added on the mic. Yeah. Bye guys. Love you. Bye. I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul