The Debrief - Dating App Disasters | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

Welcome back to The Debrief! This week as cuffing season approaches we are diving back into the dating app dramas!As always email: hello@thedebriefpodcast.co.uk or DM @the.debriefpodcast with any debr...iefs or dilemmas. Have an amazing week! Lots of love, K+K xx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul Welcome to the deep breath With your co-host Katie Leach Lovely Keeping me fresh Yeah I thought I'd just keep you on your toes Keep you my mind sharp
Starting point is 00:00:21 I love it Keep you on your tippy toes Yeah big time Tipy toes We've been watching strictly recently Love strictly I've just been saying I've only got this is the first year I've watched
Starting point is 00:00:30 I love it. Yeah, I've never watched it before. Makes me feel so young again. Oh my God, it's beautiful. I've never watched before. I have, I'm going to take every single time I go anywhere, I will always back that if a man can dance, sexy. Very sexy. Very, very sexy. And also, like, just show, showman quality. It's fantastic. I love it. I'm literally like, this is fantastic. What, do you think it's the most sexy dance? Probably, like, like the rumba. The rumba's always been sexy on strictly. They're always giving like sexy.
Starting point is 00:01:05 So I can't wait for that. What would you, if a guy was like, I dance and you like sexy and then you go to see him dance and like not sexy. There'd be one that you're like, oh, that's such a shame. I think like, what's it? You know, like Maypole. Like if they were like, I dance around the maypole, I'd be like, oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Tough, tough, tough, tough. Okay, that's interesting. Or like. Sounds really bad, but like Irish dancing. If your legs can move that independently from your body, I'm not a lot of hit movement in Irish time. It's the serious face as well. Yeah, it's the serious face.
Starting point is 00:01:39 And it's kind of like everything from the waist up is Steph. Yeah. And then the legs are doing the legwork. And the legs are flailing. Absolutely. Yeah, big time. My match for this week is I'm excited about life. I am so excited about life.
Starting point is 00:01:52 And I... I was like, you know what? Life is good. I said, life is bad. A roof over our head. Yeah. our dindins, we've got great friends, we love our family. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Life is good. Life is fantastic. We had something that was like moaning to us about something. And Arch and I, which is like thinking to ourselves, but life is good. Life is good, guys. It's so good. Like, be fine. Relax.
Starting point is 00:02:14 You're fine. So fine. Yeah. Tell me your mantra this week. My mantra is, it isn't always me. Oh, go on. I feel like it's been a very grounding mantra for me in the past few weeks where I, I've really spiral a lot about loads of what ifs and what ifs.
Starting point is 00:02:29 and usually some things happen and I always blame myself. I feel like my default is to blame myself. And I'm like, it isn't always me. Actually, reality check, Katie, it's not all about you, bitch. It's not all about you. But isn't it mad sometimes where you're like, did I really piss you off? And they're like, oh my God, no, literally this is going on at work. And I was so involved in my, and I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Do you what I mean? So it's not about, yeah. Yeah. So sometimes it's nice where I'm like, it isn't always about me. Like it's fine. Let's just move on. Relax. My song this week is Red Wine Supernova Chapel Rhone.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I love her. Red Chappell's a fucking gem. Supernova. I love her. I love her. I love her. Literally. I love her songs.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Does she do hot to go? Yeah. Yeah. Love it. Red Wine Supernova is a fantastic, like getting ready. Oh, isn't it? Shimmie around in your bedroom kind of song. I love it.
Starting point is 00:03:24 It is a bang. I would love to see Chapel Rhone live. I would. Yeah. I think also her outfits are so funky. Yeah. Love it. Love it.
Starting point is 00:03:33 So, my song this week is Your Love. It's like, oh my God. I wasn't recording. Now we're back. It is, If you miss me, if you miss me.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Come and kiss me. Come and kiss me. So, right, it's called. It's called... If you miss me. It's called Ordinary People. And it is by a band called The Favors.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Now, what's funny is, Billy Elish's brother, Phineas, superstar producer on all her records. Yeah. Also has a music career. Okay. I love his EPs. I think he's a fantastic song.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Like his, like, short album, baby album. Okay. I love all his stuff. I think he's a fantastic songwriter, right? And he, and one of his long, longtime collaborators called Ash have just formed a little duo and they've called themselves The Favors and they've come out with a whole album that's very like foky.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Does Finia sing? Yeah. Oh wow. And it's very fokey, very reminiscent of like, I want to say like haul and oats like giving the carpenters like very old vibes. And I love that. I really, all their stuff is like so good. It's very, very nice, and it's very autumnal.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I'm very into autumn right now. Especially being so young. That's quite rare. I really like it. They're really like leaning into that kind of like 70s, 80s kind of like softer music vibe. I love it. I'm gladdy low it. So my ears.
Starting point is 00:05:10 What's it called? Ordinary people, The Favors. And their album, that album I've been listening to her non-stop. Yeah. Is called recently added. Where is she? The Dream. The dream.
Starting point is 00:05:25 And it's so bloody good. Well, let's give it a listen then. It's fantastic. My mum always goes to me. The song's on the Daybrife. I never know Katie's song. Eileen's got to get into it. So it's an old jazz classic.
Starting point is 00:05:39 And I love an old jazz classic. I know you do. I feel like an 80-year-old woman at heart. Do you know what's coming in the post for me today? What? Yeah, two parcels. I was in the flat on my own. Two parcels.
Starting point is 00:05:51 I was like, oh my God, I heard them then ringing the other flats. Loll. I was like, oh my God. Because I just buzzed them without even picking up the phone and just burst. And I heard them like, thank you. Then they came in. But I was like stolen, like bra and pants. Then walk back in there like thumping on the door.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Oh, I hate it when they come to the actual door. Yeah, because we've got like a reception hallway where you can leave the parcels. I'm like, don't come to my door. It scares me when they come to the door. I'm a woman on my own. Yeah. Like, do I mean? I'm like, leave me.
Starting point is 00:06:24 No, I've got my criss-cross puzzle book. It's coming in the post today. Stop it. I thought that was only for holidays, Katie. I know. Why deny myself the joy? Do you know what? I'm excited about life.
Starting point is 00:06:39 You need to have a cross-cris-crop puzzle book, whatever you call it. I really want to like put my screen time down and like I need to stop playing Candy Crush basically. And I'm like, what could I do while I wait for the traitors to come on this evening? I'm so excited and obviously I'm going out for dinner tonight Are you not going to be back? So I probably won't watch it So I'm going to watch it
Starting point is 00:06:56 I'm going to watch it at work tomorrow And I'm so excited to watch it on my right Oh my God I keep meaning to tell you What? I think you used to work with a client of mine Where did I used to work? Where I am now?
Starting point is 00:07:07 No. PR. Stop it. Yeah. This girl keeps coming in And I was talking about celebrity traitors which goes all we represent one of them And then I'll tell me their name
Starting point is 00:07:19 Yeah. Yes. Yeah. She comes all the time. Yes. Babe. Yes. She's so nice.
Starting point is 00:07:29 So, so nice. She is really nice. So I looked her up on LinkedIn and then I was like, oh my God, Kate used to work there. Yeah, she is really nice. She's really nice. And I remember when I was there, she was getting married. Yeah, she just got married. She just got married.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Yeah. Yeah. And I remember she was telling me, does she short brown, Pam? Yeah. Yeah. She has like her ends of hair cut every six weeks. That's iconic. She's a very iconic lady. Every six weeks.
Starting point is 00:07:57 She comes in a lot and she's always the nicest. Yeah, she is really nice to do that. She's really, really, really nice. She's like in my top five favorite clients. Stop it. Yeah, I really, really like her. Isn't that weird? We chat all, because she comes in for most morning classes.
Starting point is 00:08:13 So we yap all the time. I need to be like, oh, girl. I know you. I've got a mutual. She also was the one that when I first met her, I thought our housemate would fancy. Oh, yeah, I mean, massively. I was like, oh my God. And then she was like, I'm getting married.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I was like, unlucky. Never mind. I was like, never mind. And but Chris Cross puzzle book. Why are you getting it? I'm trying to cut down my screen time. Yes. I mean, that's what we were saying.
Starting point is 00:08:38 So I want to just like challenge my mind a bit more. I want to cut down on my screen time as well. Obviously this week I've had really early nights. I've been loving nights. Yeah. we've loved. But I want to be able to be like, I'm getting into bed
Starting point is 00:08:51 and doing a half an hour of reading. But the issue, yeah, I really, really want to get into my reading. But the issue with that is that I'm in a long-term relationship and I live with my boyfriend. Yeah. So where do we fit the sacks in with the reading?
Starting point is 00:09:03 Is it before the reading or is it after? Because I feel like after the reading I kind of would have been a bit, you know, toned down, ready to snuggle. But then before, it feels a bit rogue to be like, now's the time. Yeah, I mean. Books closed.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Come to Mama. Get your pants off. Yeah. I see what you mean. So that's something that's just... In the back of your mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'll get back to you and the debriefers.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Please do. Yeah. Reckers? Yeah. Recker, record. Recommendations. So, guys, it's a look at the Irish.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Oh, I went to bloody Dublin. Oh, lovely, lovely, lovely toy. Never been to Ireland. Really? Never, ever been to Ireland. Got that ticked off my list. Never been to an old coward, erter. Never been.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I'm really trying to wrap my brains and also not offend my parents in case they did take me as a child. Isn't it such a child? I've never been to court. We took your school and when are you three? Yeah. You loved it. You loved it. You had Cornish ice cream.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Yeah. How the fuck? But I was supposed to. Oh, so I won't take you on a holiday again because he clearly never remember them. I'm like, oh. I'm trying my best where I'm like, I've not been, not been to Ireland. And they're like, no. I'm like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:16 No. I knew it. I knew it. I've never been. Yeah. Oh my God. And tell the viewers why you went. You went for a friend's bidet. I went to Dublin. Dublin. Not Belfast, sadly, where I couldn't do daddy. Daddy. Daddy. Daddy. Are we going to London? That was all I took from that film. I think you were the only girl, weren't you? Only girl. Five men? Yeah, five men. We were having the best, literally like the best time. Fun, feral, their operation was to break me. And they did. And they did. And they did. And who knows, maybe you found your hobby there. I'm sure you made your mark.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Oh, Dublin, we'll be seeing me again. I'm sure. There's a part of me that would love for you. So I have a friend who's convinced that they're going to live in Ireland when they're older. They're like, I really, really want to live in Ireland. And they're like, I love the culture there, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all of this. I could see you with an Irish man. I could see me with an Irish man.
Starting point is 00:11:06 But if you move that, I'd be livid. Oh, I don't know if I could move. He needs to be where you are. He needs to be sat on that seat. Genuinely, if I could, if I moved anywhere, outside of London. She, you know, I genuinely think it could be Edinburgh. Really?
Starting point is 00:11:23 That's far, it's far, though. It is far, it's really far. Like, that or like maybe Cambridge. But like, I loved Edinburgh. Edinburgh's very pretty. Edinburgh was gorgeous. It was cold. It was chilly.
Starting point is 00:11:35 It was chilly and windy. I was never in shorts there when we were there for the summer. Yeah, mad. It was pretty bleak weather. But pretty, very pretty. Gorgeous, amazing. amazing coffee, amazing food. It's like London, but like delightfully quieter and more like communal. It's expensive, though. It was expensive. But very Harry Potter-esque, very cozy. It feels like...
Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah, it feels like a Universal Studios set. Because you're like, oh my God, these bricks, adorable. Massively. Bag pipes everywhere. I hate to be a cliche. But as soon as you get out of the station, there is a guy playing bag pipes. Oh, I love it. I love it. Oh, are you ready to debrief? Uh, yeah, let's... Oh, okay. I don't know why I went higher. Debris.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Okay, tell me. Okay, so this week on the debray. Yes. It's almost in homage to myself. Lovely. We are talking about dating app disasters. Okay. And I've recently redownloaded Hinge.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yay. Guys, you'll love to know. So I have a family Apple account. because for some reason I am stingy as fuck and will make my dad continue paying for my Apple Music. Yeah. But that means it sends him a request to download an app. Now this is, this has come up as an issue a lot of times in my life.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Can I just say, does that mean you can't download any apps without his permission? Yeah. Or he just gets told that you've downloaded an app. No, he needs to accept my permission and request to download the app. No, no, no. So usually it's fine. You strike while the iron's hot in the daytime. because he'll be awake.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Okay. My dad goes to bed at like 8pm. Okay, look, good man, good man. He goes to bed early, right? Okay. So it comes as an issue, like, for example, if I go to the pub and you can only order via the app, like, you can never do that.
Starting point is 00:13:30 I always have to get a friend to order and transfer them. Stop it. And also, when it comes to issues like, Hinge, I don't want my dad knowing I'm downloading Hinge. No, how the hell do you get around that? So I... Although, didn't your sister meet her partner on Hinge? She met her partner on Bumble.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Oh, Bumble! I know. I know. I've never given Bumble a go. So she would have had to ask your dad for Bumble? Well, no, because my sister was on a Samsung. Stop. So she relinquished herself from the Apple family.
Starting point is 00:13:56 She's like, I'm better than this. I thought, big of you. I'm clinging up. No. I'm not doing that. You've got to hold on to any penny you can get. So she, yeah. So I basically had to log out of my Apple ID, create a new Apple ID,
Starting point is 00:14:09 reset my iPhone, log back in, go to the app store, download Hinge, log back out, and log back into my original Apple ID. to work. That is really smart. It's a lot of effort. And when I've deleted Hinge about three times out of sheer frustration and always forget the password of the new Apple ID I've created,
Starting point is 00:14:27 I have to then create more. It takes like a good half hour. Stop. So when I was sat like watching Strictly by myself the other week while you're all away, I was like, now's the time. Now's the time because it'd be lovely to do with this with a boy. Yeah, I'm by myself. I've got the time.
Starting point is 00:14:45 I'm watching Strictly. I can do it. Now is the time. So I've re-downloaded Hinge. Lovely. Now, I have been talking to people. Lovely. Slag.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yeah, all right. It's like. All right. It's like. Don't boast. However, the moment a date gets mentioned, all of a sudden it becomes the hardest thing in the world. It's literally like the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:15:07 It's like, oh, oh, yeah. Yeah. I like you. Yeah, yeah. These aren't my conversations also, guys. Like, don't judge. This is like generalization. This is improv.
Starting point is 00:15:15 It's improv. Yeah. So it's like. Oh, yeah, you like this. I like this too. Yeah. And I go, let's talk about it over a drink. Why don't we grab a drink?
Starting point is 00:15:24 Literally, why message me? Why? Why? Why? Why? From a single woman there? What's the perspective on that? Why don't, why?
Starting point is 00:15:31 Why does that happen? I have no clue, but I am, I've done it a lot where people, like, I want to take you out and I'm like, oh, really? And I leave it. But I also think I'm valid because I know that it was just for fun. Okay. But men can't be doing that just for their entertainment. Or there you go.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Surely not, surely not. But I feel like everyone I met me has either met the love of their life on Hinge or is in the trenches when it comes to dating apps. Yeah, because our friend met his girlfriend who's lovely. Yeah. On Hinge. Crazy. And it's one of those things.
Starting point is 00:16:07 And you wouldn't see, you wouldn't likely feel that they would go on Hinge. And I don't think they would have ever crossed paths otherwise. And they're perfect for each other. And they're perfect for each other. they're such a great couple and again like I will talk to someone they go you on Hinge and they go yeah and they go yeah I fucking know right it's the pits
Starting point is 00:16:23 or my old manager met his husband on Hinge oh my God that's so cute and like I know another person at work who met her boyfriend on Hinge like people do my sister like lives with her boyfriend yeah they'll get married for sure literally they've been together for like three years now
Starting point is 00:16:40 and they've they met on Bumble and they're perfect for each other and they're perfect for each other It is possible. Yeah. However, when you're not doing it, it feels fucking impossible. Okay. So, whilst it seems like doom and gloom, I know many dating app success stories.
Starting point is 00:16:59 However, my question to you is, can you guess what the percentage is of people that meet on dating apps and successfully end up in a long-term relationship? Well, I think it's going to be quite. Low. Because I don't have a lot of experience with dating apps, but the limited one, the limited time I did, it was all for my ego. Yeah. I wanted an ego boost. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:29 So I could see why people would download it just, oh, I've got a bit of a flirt. Yeah. I mean, it's lovely, isn't it? It is a nice ego boost. It's lovely to have a flirt. Well, you've got no bra on in your scratch watching TV. Yeah. It's lovely.
Starting point is 00:17:41 It says, you, I want to rip your clothes off. Thank you. Yeah. Got ice cream. on my tits right now. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to say it's less than 50%. Maybe like 35. Okay. You're wrong. Really? 10. Did Wonders, did Wonders reading that? Love that. 10% of people who are on dating apps meet them, yeah, I meet their partners and end up in long-term relationships from dating apps. 10.
Starting point is 00:18:12 That says a lot though, doesn't it? I literally am like, here's my thing. let me moan for a second. You can moan away. Mown away. I'm literally like, how in this day and age, how, and especially, maybe not to generalise, in fucking London, how on earth do you meet people organically? Because I'm telling you now, our friendship group,
Starting point is 00:18:32 met them all, love all the men in our friendship group. Yeah. Do I want to date them? No. And then are there many? And we've also had the friends who went to different unies coming to London Pipeline, where any mutual man I could have been introduced to is dried up now.
Starting point is 00:18:50 There are no new men getting regurgitated into the group. So I turned to Hinge on Hinge. It's fucking dire where I'm literally like, respectfully, the people that like me upset me. It's upsetting. It upsets you deeply. I will back that. It upsets you deeply.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Or I chat to someone I think's really hot. they never respond. But we matched. That's what gets me. And I'm literally like, in what, I think everyone's so non-committal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:25 It just doesn't work. And I'm like, so I'm doing the dating apps thing. The only thing I haven't done is gone to a singles event. And I'm very close. But unfortunately, I just don't know who I go with.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Because you're my girl. And like, yes. And I can't go with you. We have great time. I can't go with you. Yeah. So I'm like, although if you did go with, Archie would never,
Starting point is 00:19:47 he'd be like, what the hell? But if I did go with you, it'd be great because I could just chum me up. I'd have no interest in anyone. I'd be like, Katie's best. Why doesn't Archie go as well? And then you guys do like a little fun role play thing. And then we could go together as besties. And then you mean Archer.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Like the time when you got off with the, your kisses are so sweet. Yeah. But my hand was on your back. Yeah. Because you're like, what is the bestie? I'm here. I'm right here. You're fine. But keep doing your thing.
Starting point is 00:20:12 That would be, maybe we talked to Archie on that angle. Yeah. and be like, because if I'm like, I'm going to singles of me with Katie, he's like, okay, do we need to chat? Can bring our other house, mate? All go together, all go together. And God, wouldn't it be a great story? Oh, we'd have so much fun.
Starting point is 00:20:29 We'd have a great time. So, yeah, dilemma. Dilemma, tell me. All right. Okay. Hi, Gailies. Hello, Gellipops. So recently, I decided that I'd give dating apps a go after a somewhat dry hot girl summer.
Starting point is 00:20:43 relatable. Fair enough. Downloaded Hinge and started chatting to this guy. Let's call him Keith. Keith and I. Keith is very rogue. Classic. Let's call him Keith. My driver instructor is called Keith. Lovely man. I've never met Keith. Was he? Was he? No, I think he was. I feel like you said that to me before. Yeah. So Keith and I had great chat. Straight on the off. It was flirty and exciting. Oh, come on Keith. I do. That's what we like. Soon enough, we were planning a date to go to a bar local to us both and I was weirdly excited. Usually. Pardon me.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Usually, I don't get excited for a first day, as often it's a full-time job to even go on the first day. If you know, you know, girl, I get you. Okay. But I had a good feeling about Keith. I deal. Well, Keith, he took my number and my Instagram, and we started texting, again, all really good chat.
Starting point is 00:21:29 I then went to follow him on Instagram, and I was shocked to say that clearly the photos he has on Hinge are the best five photos in his life. Because his feed and his tagged photos, always look at the tagged photos, look nothing like his hinge profile. I don't want to be rowed and cancel the date as I was genuinely excited and the chat has been really good.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Great. I just feel somewhat surprised that he genuinely looks so different, but also feel bad that I feel really conceited and judgmental of his looks. Do I go or do I cancel? Go. I say go. I think you go. I think if Keith has been giving a good vibe over the internet, that's one, that's a tricky,
Starting point is 00:22:12 a tricky task to master. It is. He's already done that. Tick for Keith. Just because Keith's got his five favorite photos, let's want to show him, Keith. We all have our reuse and recycle photos.
Starting point is 00:22:24 We all love our photos of ourselves. That's fine. Or best and best and our promise, that's fine. Yeah. I can give him a go. I think so. As as women, I was saying this recently to my dad and he was like, really?
Starting point is 00:22:35 I said, yes. I don't think that's the case. I was like, it is. Women will fancy you more on your personality than on your looks. Whereas men will fancy you more on your looks than your personality. I can't see that. Yeah, yeah. I was like, no, women see this more than men.
Starting point is 00:22:49 They're like, men do that. I'm like, Dad, do they? Fraser's a 10 out of 10 in both the looks and the personality department. Crazy he can't see that his personality makes him a thousand times hotter. He's just amazing. And I'm like, so I think go, get to know Keith, because just because maybe his other photo is not amazing, you might, that might not matter. Yeah, the chat.
Starting point is 00:23:10 The chat is very hard to come by in this day and age. And also, if you're a girl who like me and Peach, Katie, sorry, I don't even... Have we called you Peach on the pod? Even if they know. If you're one of us, if you man can laugh you into bed. Oh, easy, pizy. Fine.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Easy, bloody pizy. Yes, you need an initial attraction, but... Yes, you need an initial attraction. Of course you do. But I promise you that attraction will only get more. Yeah. With you liking their personality. Literally, you've got this girl.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Go. Enjoy yourself. If not, it's just one for the books. Yeah, and don't be put off by the pictures. Put the shoe on the other foot. Yeah. If he saw pictures of uni, that didn't look like a hend, I'm not going now. That's a bit shallow. Yeah, it's a bit hard. When he really liked your chat and thought you were really good.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Yeah, I say go. And also, I mean, it's a classic one all of our girls say. He looks different in person. He looks different in person. But maybe you see him and you thought. Oh, he is more. Some people just aren't photogenic. Yeah. Some people don't photograph well. I personally think sometimes I don't photograph well
Starting point is 00:24:13 especially when I go through my weird smile face and I also like I've met friends who I'm like gosh you do not in a weird way but I'm like you do actually do look different in person definitely go it's so worth it we want to hear an update be yourself because that's what you guys really got on with in being himself and you being yourself the looks will come at all they won't and at least you've put yourself up And you've nailed it.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Yeah. All right. Ix. I've got one. I've got one. I'll ping pong you. Ready? Can't really when.
Starting point is 00:24:51 But when you match with someone and they just text high on a dating out. That's it. I'm literally like, where do you want me to go from here? Where do you want me to go from here? If that would infuriate me,
Starting point is 00:25:01 frankly God, I'm not single. Because I think the thing... I would be so angry. Or... Hi. Or you match. And they don't say anything at all. And I'm like, what?
Starting point is 00:25:11 What's the point? What's the point? So I'm like, I, if I match with someone, I will go onto their profile and text something in relation to like a prompt on their profile. I think that also shows that you've taken the time to like look at their profile and be like, I get you. I see you. Completely agree. But like, hey, what do you want to chat about? Also, think about how you text your friends.
Starting point is 00:25:35 You would never just go, hi. Hi. I love. How are you? Literally. Give me something. Text me about something you've seen on my profile. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Oh, you've ruined the conversation now. Yeah. What's yours? Okay, really? Yeah. Mine is Snapchat filters in 2025. Valid, really valid. I don't have Snapchat anyway.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Obviously I did when I was at school and all that kind of stuff. So I find it slightly like anyone when people like streets, streets. I'm like, let's move on. Yeah. But Snapchat filters in 2025, like the dog filter, back in 2018, I used to rinse that. I used to rinse that dog filter. Kylie Jenner, she brought that dog filter.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I call it. She looked sexy. Then we all did it and we looked sexy. It was kind of cute, but kind of like, I'm a dog. Like I'm just such a slag. Look at me. I'm so sexy. If you're putting a dog filter on now, I'm like, oh no.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I just can't back. It's embarrassing for you. I can't back people who are like, what's your Snapchat? I'm like, I'm 20 fucking four. What do you mean? What's my Snapchat? chat, take my number. Ask me my Instagram or ask me for my number.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I actually am getting even more now, like, especially on Hinge or people like, what's your Instagram? I'm like, ask me for my number. Interesting. Text me. Only because recently I said it to you before we started recording, a lot of guys are like, what's your Instagram? Let's chat over that.
Starting point is 00:26:53 And then as soon as you follow them, they don't message you. And I'm like, do you just want Instagram followers? That's insane. That is just. That's deluded. That is so, oh, I'd be infuriated. That's tomfoolery. Yeah, that is tomfoolery.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Oh, I'd be infuriated the extra follow. So I'm literally like, message me, literally what's at me? Completely. Make an effort. Relax. Make an effort. Yeah. My question.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Questions. I'm silly. And I'm serious. My serious question to you is, do you actually think it's possible to meet people organically in this day and age? Yes. I have faith for you. I have fit for you. I do.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I'm like, please. I do. I definitely. Organically. I do. Thank you. I do. I think the hard thing with you is that with musical theatre,
Starting point is 00:27:45 there are a lot of people who aren't straight. So it's not the opportunity to meet people. You've made some incredible friends. Oh, yeah. The men that you've met haven't been available to you because they're seeing other men. Do you what I mean? And that was an amazing thing for, like, your friendships.
Starting point is 00:28:05 you made am, and they're such great people. They're the best people, amazing people. But preferably you'd like a boyfriend who was straight. Ideally, yes. Ideally, and ideally. So I think that's the issue. Yeah. What comes to me, I have these for two friends, yes,
Starting point is 00:28:21 that I was telling you about over the weekend. Yeah. So obviously they have their own, they do their own careers, but they love musical theatres. So they do like all this am drum around London. And the amount of men that people have, met through this who are who would be great for you and that's respect I'm like it needs to be a little niches like this yeah I have full hope that and I also don't think that you will
Starting point is 00:28:45 meet your person in a pub I think you will meet your person doing something really fucking silly yeah yeah or maybe working on a project or something where your guard is completely down yeah yeah if you're in a environment where you're in a environment where you are prioritising your career, you'll be very, very focused and driven, and that'll be your aim. Yeah. If you're doing mini golf, your guard would be down, you'd be doing something silly. Yeah, yeah. If you were doing a tango class, if you're doing a salsa class, you and I go together.
Starting point is 00:29:27 And do you know what I mean? Yeah. I think I have full hope that how many is 2025? There has been 2,000 years of people meeting each other. Yeah. Do I mean? Yeah. Like, we can now, we cannot just now rely on a nap.
Starting point is 00:29:44 No. I do not believe we can rely on a nap. We can't, guys. We've all found a person and you will find ours. And it might be over a nap. It might. It might. But I do have hope for people meeting people in person.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Yeah. I genuinely do. Thanks, yeah. I got you. My senior question is if your hinge prompt, if your hinge prompt answers were brutally honest. What would they actually say? So let's say what answers is like my toxic trait is, what is your toxic trait? What are your hinge prompts for one?
Starting point is 00:30:16 And what are the actual real honest answers? I think my hinge prompts are, I think the best way to ask me out I've said is by naming a time and place. Okay. I think I would rewrite that as the best way to ask me out is to keep persisting even when I don't respond. and I vent just approved to me that you want to take me out and then I'll go. And put you in your place. And put me in my place.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yeah. Because I will not respond to people purely out of fear. And I'll try it to my, I'll be like, let's go out. I'll be like, no. I think the other one is I'll fall for you if you buy me cereal. Yeah, okay. That needs to change. I do need to change that.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I'll fall for you if you give me very basic attention and make me laugh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm loving me as brutally honest. What's the other one? There's another one. I can't remember it. Naming a time and place.
Starting point is 00:31:11 You'll fall for them if they can give a musical theatre reference. If they make one musical theatre, like, especially a niche one, I would be like panties on the fucking floor. And it's a clever one as well. But I'd be like... This is a thing with Hitchness doesn't go. This doesn't come through. Like, actual honest dance would be fucking whole.
Starting point is 00:31:32 hilarious. What will we make you for for you? A clever, witty, musical theatre. Unique, niche musical theatre quotes. Literally, and I genuinely would be like, oh, okay, I fancy you. Yeah. Massively. I think that's basically it. I think it would be like, as long as you just give me attention and just keep pushing parts. That's the best one. The resilience. Ignore the fact that I'm not responding. Just really, just know that like I want to respond. I really will need you to push through. I'm just finding you and tricky. Yeah, I'm just, I need you to kind of just show up at my door, being like, it's happening. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:12 And I'm like, okay. Okay. Right, guys, we've got to the end of the air. I hope you have. I love to rest of your Monday. Have the best seat, guys. I hope you shine like a little star. And love you lots.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Have a great day. Bye. Bye. I've got a rebel soul. I've got a rebel soul.

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