The Debrief - Dating App Dramas | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: February 17, 2025

Welcome back to The Debrief! This week we are talking all things dating apps. Hinge horror stories, Tinder triumphs and Bumble fumbles. As always email [e-mail] with any debriefs or dilemmas or pop us a DM @the.debriefpodcastHave a lovely week! Lots of love,K+K xxx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to the Tea Room. Hiya, darlings. Oh, we've got sick patient in the corner. Sexy coworker and sexy sex worker. Yeah. Kitty McNea. Kitty as smokes. It's the first time ever I've lost my voice. co-worker and sexy sex worker, Katie McNeire. Bek- Katie has smoked. Katie- It's the first time ever I've lost my voice.

Bek- I literally- Katie- Ever. Bek- It sounds like you've smoked your entire life. Katie- It does, doesn't it? Bek- Like it's crazy. Katie- Although I was with Archie's family on Sunday and it was like I couldn't even do this. I couldn't even speak at all.

Bek- That's crazy, yeah. Katie- Like I tried and it was, it scared me a little, like I tried and it was like a whistle, like nothing came out. And I tried like a tiny bit, like I was trying to make an effort. And what she sunk was like, it's kind of sexy. I was like, thank you. Thank you. And he did the confidence boost. Yeah. Thanks for that guys. I know. But it's so funny when you kind of like have no personality. It's like a little mermaid. Yeah.

She loses her voice. And she's just people are trying to talk to me and I'm like, yeah, yeah, nothing, nothing more diva down the vocal rest. And I love it. Although tell them about the concoction you made me last night. Oh my god, guys. I don't know where this this came from, in all honesty. But I remember when I would have a cold, whenever I get a really bad cold, I will always lose my voice. Interesting. Usually it's because I don't take care of myself and it's overuse. So from like coughing,

I'll just lose it. It's usually gone not long, a day or two. But I was doing a lot of research and made a concoction and it's like a lemon, ideally a lemon and ginger tea. Okay. Honey. Yeah. I've started putting fresh garlic in there and then chili powder. And the chili powder feels like it's burning all the bacteria.

I don't know if it's good for you. Truthfully, I usually just find a wake up and I feel like way better. That's so interesting. So I find it interesting. The most effective thing is a saltwater gargle. Yeah, yeah. But that little concoction when I did the Sondheim Awards and I felt the week of I woke up and I was like, I'm losing my voice. I can't say I heard that garlic was nature's

antibiotic and I was eating shit you not like three raw cloves of garlic and I to try and get sick. It was disgusting. It was genuinely it was mine. It would make my like my eyes would be streaming it would burn. But like everyone was like garlics raw garlics really good for you. I was like I'll do anything at this point. I can't lose my voice. Yeah, completely. Shall we? Yeah, let's do it. What's your mantra? So my mantra this week is rather ironic, but I trust my body's ability to heal and restore itself. I was sat there thinking, what am I going to do? Yeah. So what do I need right now? It's like, to gaslight my body and to be like, you're fine. You're well.

You'll deal with it. Yeah, you'll deal with it on its own. Yeah, exactly. My mantra is just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not happening. Oh, tell me about that. I feel like I'm a very impatient person. I feel like actually, weirdly, I've become more impatient. As the years have gone on in my age, I before I'd be like, Hey, it's cool. It's chill on the mile. Like, no, it's not. No, it's literally not. That's good though. But I'm good. So I, especially with like people irritating me. Yeah.

So I'm like, when I'm working towards things, I just need to remind myself it's not an overnight thing. Yeah, like things are working. I'm moving, I'm doing things. It doesn't mean nothing's happening. It's just not happening all at once and it rarely ever does. So I'm like, just keep it chill, keep moving. Yeah. It's like, just because you haven't looked out the window doesn't mean the train's not moving anymore. It's like, just because you haven't seen what's going on, it is still happening. because you haven't seen what's going on, it's still happening. Exactly.

And I think you're quite big on the actual things, whereas positions you're in are still steps that you're taking to find yourself. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so my song this week is, I can't sing it, but you will sing it for me. Yeah. Knowing me, knowing you. Uh-huh. There is nothing we can do. Knowing me, knowing you.

Uh-huh. I was at the exhibit in Ballum. Yeah. The weekend. I'm sorry, Ballum is fucking pretty. Ballum's a great area. It's like a great night out, really wholesome, really nice. The food, I went for tapas, although fucking tiny. So small.

Really? Yeah, small. But food was sensational. Love that. Then went to the exhibit, had a boogie, it was brilliant. It was absolutely brilliant. And that came on and I was like, banger. 10 out of 10. A 10 out of 10.

Yeah. Absolute banger. Tell me your song. My song is Abracadabra, Abracadabra. Feel the beat under your feet, the floors are fire. Gaga, new Gaga. I am absolutely obsessed with this song. Okay. I'm obsessed.

Lady Gaga's new song, Abracadabra. Yeah. It literally, I literally am, I've had it on repeat. I'm like, another one, thank you. I finished it and I'm like, again. Oh, I've got to listen to it. Is it a workout tune? It is a very big, it's actually someone, it's got the perfect eight counts to dance to. I can imagine every jazz teacher is downloading that shit. Let's get a like it's like a bricadabra a bricadabra and I'm like time time time and kick fucking oh you're still at number you know you'd be doing some shimmies

to that the jazz teachers are quaking right now. They're creating combos as we speak. I feel so bad. Reca recommendation. Reca recommendation. Our recommendation this week is SoulCycle guys. I'm sorry, but your shoes are hilarious. Guys, guys, guys, guys.

If any of you have the privilege, which some of you may not. Being on my phone. SoulCycle guys. I'm sorry, but your shoes are hilarious. Guys, guys, guys, guys. If any of you have the privilege, which some of you may not. Being on my Finsta. To follow Katie's Finsta. Did you like my comments? I loved your comments. Katie posted a photo of her little feet, your little trotters. In the cleats.

And I actually think Katie's got quite big feet, she's quite tall. Got quite clowny feet, yeah I do. Your little feet looked like jelly beans. And you have to walk around in them. I feel like such a dick, like walking around the studio. Do you feel like Dick Whittington? I do feel like Dick Whittington and his cat. I do like walking around. But I went- Suck your-

I literally just fucking fumbling around. I've heard of SoulCycle. Like, I feel like everyone's heard of SoulCycle. If you haven't explained, it's basically an indoor spin session. Yeah, so much more than that. I like, I, we need, I cried. Like, I cried twice now in that it's actually so moving. I, like, it's actually, no, I genuinely, it's so embarrassing. So I went, my friend works there, and I get it for free with my work. Okay.

So I was like, do you know what, I'm sick of doing, like, not sick, but I'm like, my body's dying from berries. Let's not do berries today. Why don't I go try a soul cycle? So I went expecting it. and I remember that day I was not feeling, I was not in a good headspace. I was just like feeling really low. I was like, Oh God, get there, get the induction, get in. I've done spin before, but I was like, this, it's all good. Music's playing, lights are down, everyone's, guys, there's choreography. lights are down, everyone's f- guys there's choreography. So I'm there literally- LW- Don't say. N- So you co- you do kind of choreography with your arms to the beat while you cycle.

So I'm trying to keep up- LW- How's that with your dyspraxia? N- Don't even. So I'm sat there like- LW- Up, up, down, down, up, up, down. N- And then like Chapel Rowan's f-ing blasting through. LW- Oh, Chapel Rowan. It's such an American, like it's an American company. It feels so American when you're in there.

You get in. Can I ask, is SoulCycle the name of the gym? Yeah, it's, that's the name of the like brand, the company. But like you say, I have a membership with SoulCycle. Yeah, yeah. And then the classes that they only, the classes are only on the bike. Yeah, it's only spin. The instructors usually do

like fun little like ABBA versus Chapelrone rides. There was a like High School Musical versus Camp Rock ride. Like they do fun. Can you take me please? We need to go. So I was like loving life. But then all of a sudden, I don't know what what? Well, it's kind of, it's very culty. Imagine, I was sat in there, that you do loads of different rides, fun choreography, fine, you do a little bit of a hill climb, whatever. Then it's lit, the woman's on a podium, the instructors who's cycling that you're following. Honestly, she's up on the podium and she's giving it welly anyway with the whole, you are all amazing, you've this and I'm like wow I'm already loving this and then she's lit by candles there are candles all around her real candles real candles so then she turns all the lights off she blows

them all out and she does this five minute Michelle Obama level color, inspirational speech. I was bawling my eyes out. She was like, I want you to look at yourself in the fucking mirror and realize that you brought yourself here today because you're special. And you just, and I'm literally sat there like, oh my god, really? And it genuinely, it got me so much. It was like, you do all the thing and then for the cooldown you do this like mindfulness thing. Please could you bring me next week? We have to go. It was so sensational. And then I went on Sunday and I cried again. She was like, everything you ever want is on the other side of that hill. And you shouldn't

stop because it's hard. You carry on because it's hard because you're all strong as fuck in here. And I was like, it really got me. Oh my god. So I want to try and go like at least once or twice a week because it just genuinely like made my week. Oh my god, I need to do this. It was so good. I'm a bit scared because I'm not so very good at cycling. You're strapped in. Yeah, but but like, give me a 10k run. Love it. Cycling. My legs were killing me. I literally was. Is it like one rebel? Can you do levels depending on what you have? I didn't stick to the beat. I wasn't advanced enough, but I think I was in a class full

of regulars because they all knew what was going on. Because it's so American, they all whoop and cheer. So literally, like you're like cycling along and they're like, yeah, we've got this. And I'm like, whoa, I swear I wouldn't be that dickhead that would be like whooping. And then I was. I was there on Sunday. Sarah- Honestly, I love for someone to be like, you're the best bitch I've ever seen. Everything you want is coming to you. I'd be like, thank you. And it literally, right now though, I'd be like, miming a whoop. It was honestly such an amazing experience. Oh my god, that sounds so good. It was so good. Great recommendation. So I love it. So shall we? Tell us what we're doing darling. So let's debrief this week on the back of Valentine's Day.

Yeah, you know a pitch. We're gonna be talking about dating apps. Now it's a controversial topic, right? Because I know people who've met their husbands, met their boyfriends, met their girlfriends on dating apps. Whereas there are some people like me who clearly aren't on these dating apps. We're on the same one, but we're not on the same one. Georgie Tunny Different categories.

Elie Zahra I literally, I will slag off hinge at any given opportunity. And my manager met his husband on hinge. And I'm literally like, what? I don't understand. Georgie Tunny I'll give you an example. So today I was watching a TikTok. Yeah. Then someone reposted on their story and it was of like this couple. Yeah. They were in their like 80s. Yeah.

And they're walking down the street and someone interviewed them saying, hey, you look like a really nice couple. Like, can you tell me your story? And they said, we only met like a year ago, a few years ago. We're both widows and we met through H a year ago, a few years ago. We're both widows. And we met through Hinch. Yeah. I just got goosebumps. And she's American, he's Irish. And during COVID, they couldn't meet. So they had like

candlelit dinners over Zoom. They did like puzzles over Zoom. They did cooking classes. And they said, and we finally met. And they fallen in love and they were like, and without having that facility, I would have never met them. She said, I'm from like a really singular place in America where I'm surrounded by people who have the same opinions. And she was like, I'm meeting him, I've fallen in love all over again. And she was like, I feel like my life started again. And it was beautiful. And it came at a perfect time because obviously we were doing this part. But I thought there are love stories that happen on dating apps.

Yeah. There are. I mean, my sister who now lives with her boyfriend, they met on Bumble. Yeah. And I'm like, it does happen. Yeah, it does. Yeah. Just not for peach. Oh, do you know what though? I was listening to My Therapist Goes to Make, shout out. Love them. And Joanne was saying, she was recently in South Africa. And in case anyone doesn't listen, Joanne McNally is a comedian and podcast host. She said that

it's 10 times worse on Raya. Bekkah Bellamy- Really? Joanne McNally- Yeah. Bekkah Bellamy- I was literally just about to say it, unless I was on fucking Raya or something. Joanne McNally- Yeah. She said Raya, in case anyone doesn't know, Raya's a dating app, but it's for celebs. You only can get on through like a recommendation or something. And she says, Raya's even 10 times worse. And I was thinking, God, I wonder why she's been, because it's a load of like cocky pricks.

Georgie Tunny Oh, to be fair. Katie That's so interesting because a girl I know is on riot and she says it's just, she's like, I don't know why but like, only people from France like match with me and she's like, I'm not in fucking France. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, these are people that like travel around a lot, I guess. Yeah, but like, I feel like there lacks on Ryan now. Because, well, there are some people that have gone on it. And I'm like, well, you're not really a select because I know people that are on it and I'm like, yeah, I completely agree. What are you doing on that? Can I get on there now? You're on there. Can you get me on? Yeah. Like, is this how this works? Yeah. So we actually know let's go on to my

question. Yeah, tell me do you think online online dating is sustainable? I definitely think like, I feel it's for a very niche individual. And I think you have to be very open minded if you want to date online. I don't think you can go online with an ideal picture of what you want. Because I think if you do, you will either one, be disappointed or two, not even consider them. Because you'd be like, no, you don't take that box. No, you're not at the right height. No, I don't like where you're from. Whereas if you're really open-minded, then I think it could work better. But also this is my opinion through friends. I've never passed me. I had dating apps before before I met Arch, but I never followed

up on them because I met Arch. So it's like, people ask me, I'm like, to be honest, I only have an opinion through friends. Do you know what I mean? What do you think? I think in, I don't know, because I've only ever been on dating apps in London. I think in London, London, like it is unsustainable. But in this kind of like, cycle of no one wants to meet and I don't know, maybe I'm maybe I'm sounding bitter and jaded. Maybe. However, I don't think people want to meet people anymore. I think going to singles events is fun. I've gone to a singles event before like it's fun, like it's good, had a nice time. But like in terms of online dating, it feels like Instagram nowadays. It's like matching with someone on hinge and actually going on a date with someone on hinge are two very different things. And like I've matched

and talked to people before and been chatting over the week and then organized a date and then they just unmatch, don't want to go or I do that to them. Niamh I also personally, and I do have experience, I see no fucking romance in it. I'm a huge hearts in the eyes like yeah, on the pad. I'm a huge romantic girl. Literally for me. I'm like shit.

If you want to woo me, show up at my fucking door with flowers. Yeah, it's like that doesn't happen anymore. I know. Well, she's very good at that. But like, with online dating, no, they're like, you're fit. I'm like, there's nothing romantic. I literally fucking hate. And I literally thank you. Honestly, I matched with someone on here and she was seen very, very nice. And then of course, the wackadoodle comes out where I'm like, where it's literally like, Hey, hey, we're having a nice chat. It's really flashy. I'm like, Oh, great. And then he's like, let's go for a drink. So Diego's okay, great. I'll book somewhere. I said, brilliant. He goes, yeah, book this place. Right next to my flat so we can go back and shag after. And I literally was like, even if that was the case, even if that was the case, why would you tell me that? Yeah.

Why would you tell me that? I genuinely probably would have gone on that date and if he went, do you want to go back? I probably would have. You would have gone yeah. If you liked him, you would have done that. But now you've said it, I'm not doing it. It's such a huge ick. And I was like, and then he was like, oh, I don't want to meet.

And then I literally saw it didn't respond for like 20 minutes and he was like, Oh, I feel I feel like I've overstepped like I don't feel comfortable with that and I literally was like, Oh, you're backtracking. At least if you fucking said it keep going on it. Literally. So you'll let me out at least. Like don't fucking take it back now. You pissed me off.

Do you know what's a shame? Is that my friend who I recently met, I would have loved to set you up with him. Which friend? Oh yeah. I would have loved to set you up with him. Because I meet some rare individuals that literally, I feel like as women, not as women, as individuals, you and I were very good at finding good male friends. Like the men in my life, I truly trust and they have my back. Like I see off our mutual, like who we live with as our brother, like I see him, like he's so important to us. But

I know that he wouldn't be saying, go back to my flat and have a shag like to her face. Say it to her, it's funny. But I know trust these men. And then when I meet them and I'm like, oh my God, you're so lovely. I'm like, it gives you hope. You know that there are nice people out there. I know. It's honestly, it's such a travesty that your friend is involved. With someone else. With someone else. Give it time, give it time. Don't Someone else. He's got he's just gonna

mean me properly. Yeah, I'm telling you. He even said something to me. I saw him on the weekend even said something to me and I was thinking, she'd be perfect for her. Because we met. He's so like, heart and asleep. We met and I thought our conversation was quite awkward truth be told. Oh my god, really? And then I was like, oh, oh, interesting. Yeah. Oh, but I feel like maybe a lot was going on that evening. Probably. But I'm like, you need you need to meet me in my true school.

Because I even said to Art, I was like, oh, fuck, did I like, was I embarrassing then? Was I awkward? And he's like, actually, for once, no. Like, for once? For once, for once, no. And I was like, great. Rude. Thanks. Yeah. So. Yes, no. And I was like, great. Thanks. Yeah. So.

Yes. Sorry. That was me. So we asked Ebrie for some online dating stories, and we've had some crackers. So I'm going to start off. I'm sorry if I'm a cracker during this as well. So I started chatting with this guy on Hinge and he's super charming and the classic Hugh Grant alior. Oh, love it. Love Hugh. However, he started calling me Lovebug from the get go. She goes, a bit much but whatever. Lovebug, no, I literally just, I would have just turned a blind eye. We plan a date and as soon as we sit down, he blunts out, I'm so glad to finally meet

you my little snuggle muffin. Snuggle muffin. What did you just call me? She's sad. And he goes, Oh, do you not like that? Turns out he had a whole rotation of women he was dating on Hinge and an entire spreadsheet on Excel with their pet names so he wouldn't mix them up. Well, he did.

He mixed them up. So I left and I can only hope the bloody honey buttons gave him the hell. It was so icky and cliche romcom. That is that he had to call us babe rather than our actual names. And also, it's so fucking sexist. My name is Sophie. It's nothing hard to remember. By the way, I found out about the nicknames because after a few drinks, he was a bit messy drunk, also an X, and said, well, this clearly isn't going well. Then proceeded to tell me about his trick. Disgusting. Oh, what?

Oh. Disgusting. Honestly, I swear to God, genuinely online dating is another full-time job. I don't have the energy for it. But also, I just feel some cockiness of individuals. For example, obviously, Love Island was on, what did Chug say over that game the other night? It was something like, would you ditch her to go to a red carpet event? It depends on the event. I was like, even if that's a joke, I was like, look, people go on the violin for love, but also for clout and love. Fine,

but I'm like, but if you want to have a future date, like that's just putting off all the girls. Oh, okay. Oh, weird vibes. Okay, so I met this guy, Tom, on a dating app, and we hit it off immediately. We went out for dinner, and he looked exactly like his pictures, which was a good sign. But as the night went on, he kept bringing up his ex, like way too much. And it was very clear he wasn't over her, constantly comparing me to her and talking about what she liked. I tried to change the topic, but he just kept circling back. By the end of the night, I was done. I politely made an excuse and left, feeling like I was just a placeholder. Fuck

me. politely made an excuse and left feeling like I was just a placeholder. This is the thing I don't get. It's like, what? Look, maybe they didn't know that they're not over them until they go on that date. I know people have said that, like, oh my God, I went on a date and I realized that I'm so not ready for this yet. Fine. But like, some people are so fucking not conscious. Like their social awareness is so blind. No, genuinely. You know? So someone else said, I went on this involved one date with this guy after texting on Bumble. Explain what Bumble is.

So it's in it where- Yes. I'm pretty sure I've never gone on Bumble. Explain what Bumble is. So it's in it where- Yeah. I'm pretty sure I've never gone on Bumble. I'm pretty sure girls like first. I think that's the- Like girls make the first move. Yeah, women take the lead. So men can't reach out to you or anyone who identifies as a man. The women have to- Like reach out, yeah. Yeah. I went on one date with this guy after text on Bumble. It was

fine. Put no sparks. Told him I didn't see it going anywhere and I wished him all the best. The next morning I get a notification. He's viewed my LinkedIn. Me. A few hours later, another view. Over the next week, eight times he has viewed my LinkedIn. Not the LinkedIn. Not one message, not one follow up, just lurking in the professional shadows. Like, sir, are you trying to recruit me for a position or something? That is so fucking weird. I love that. No, LinkedIn is hilarious. trying to recruit me for a position or something? That is so fucking weird.

Imagine. No, LinkedIn is hilarious. So why are you looking at my uni degree? I literally- And I got a 2-1. I love a stalk on LinkedIn. It's so good. It's too good. So good. More than the stalk on Instagram. When you're stalking their LinkedIn, you're a D.

But yeah, when you're stalking their Facebook nowadays, you're a D. I have to learn the hard way though. Is that stalking on LinkedIn they can say? I was like, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

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About why online dazing is becoming gradually unsustainable, which I fully agree with. And the first thing is that it is too superficial, which I completely agree with. Yeah, you can't... Do you know what you can't get? I'm sorry. Yeah. You can't get that. Someone walks into a room and think, fuck, you've got good energy.

Yeah. First time I met Arch, and you know this, because you felt it too, he's got such good energy. Yeah, he does. It's like, you want to talk to him because he makes everyone like, feel the buzz in the room. You know, you can't get that over a fucking photo of your ass out in Barbados. It's like looks over like it's not, it's so it's like Instagram, you're literally going purely off looks.

Yeah, you are. And personally, I genuinely think, and I don't know if this sounds bad, but I genuinely think the person, like, the guy that I will end up with, if I saw on hinge, I don't know if I would swipe on him. Like, it's a genuine attraction, yes. But like, there are so many people, I guarantee, that have very, very, very good personalities, have a great energy, and are just generally better in person. Yeah, 100%. Than on hinge. And also men don't know how to configure that hinge. That's one thing very, very good personalities, have a great energy, are just generally better in person. Yeah, 100%.

And also men don't know how to configure their hinge. That's one thing I've seen. I've never seen one good male constructive hinge profile. Oh really? But you know the other thing is that, okay, you have a generic type, but look back at all the guys that you've liked, not one of them look the same, but what they do have is a great personality. Literally, like genuinely. Genuinely, like think of all of them individually. And again, none of them look the same, the last, but they all have like a similar

personality of like confident, good fun, down to earth, makes you laugh. Yeah. So it's one of those things that I personally just, and also those people that I was kind of like involved with, I only really got to speak, like get to know. And then I was like, oh, I think I fancy you. Interesting. Where like- But also I like that.

Yeah. I think the best relationships are built off of friendships. I'm a big fan. But I genuinely believe that because when you're old and fucking withered, and your tits are dragging behind you on the floor, and his balls are like sweeping the carpet, if you can still sit on the sofa and make each other giggle, you're fine. Friendship is the key. I love a slow burn. And I love... love it. The second thing was forced interactions, which I'm its number one hater. Yeah, because I'm sorry if you're going on there with the potential of being like, do

you fancy me? Whereas if you're at a pub with a friend and I'm introducing you to a group of friends, I'm not introducing you going, hi, Katie, this is Derek. Derek, do you fancy Katie? Yeah. But on Hinge that is. You're literally going on. Like you're not swiping on him because you think he'll be fun. Yeah. But he's very genuine. Yeah.

You're thinking. Like you know nothing about him. No, exactly. It's way too forced. It's hungry, but I'm so hungry. Throw a pick like you're something. I literally like I've been so dramatic, but I am absolutely, my stomach's eating itself. The third thing is you don't know attraction until you're on the date. Yeah.

And I also think it's personally, when you don't know someone, you don't know the many things. So it just feels like a waste of time. 100%. And you have to be genuinely believing in the fact that the next date you go on could be the best love of your life. And I just don't have that mindset. I can't be asked. It's too much pressure. So much pressure on the situation. And as someone personally, who puts a lot of pressure on themselves anyway, when it comes to relationships, and like finding someone, it makes it 10 times

worse. Yeah. Yeah. When you're going into a situation being like, this is going to be it. And if it's not it, I think a lot of women take it like personally. Yeah, because I would. Yeah, like I already am already stressed. If I have to go on a date, like genuinely the thought of going on a date makes me feel physically sick to my stomach. It is it's bad. I'm working on it, guys. It's then added on top of that, you have to be like, okay, well, they I hope they like me. And if they don't like you, then I take it very personally. Yeah, yeah, I know is an everyone's story. But I hope that like me and if they don't like you, then I take it very personally. Yeah, yeah. Which I know is an everyone's story, but I hope that kind of speaks to some form of like

relatability to some of these guys. Yeah. Because I definitely- I'd love to get like a boy's opinion on Henge. Like we've got lots of male friends who either like, they're not on it or they're not really active on Henge. No. But I'd love to like, because

for example, one of my male friends, he had a long term girlfriend and they met on hinge. And I was like, fuck off. And I'm like, I'd love to just get that kind of what do they feel? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And the third point is too much pressure for sex on the first day. Yeah. Really? I think apps, it's devolving into what Tinder was for sex and then hinge was for relationships. Now I just feel like it's becoming a bit of a free for all that like, if you want to shag, you could go into any of these dates. Bless you. You could go into any of these apps and get it.

Okay. of these apps and get it. Okay. There's like nothing bad about that. I personally don't feel like pressure in the sense of like sex on the first day. I've never felt pressured to shag someone. That's good. But I can understand why people think, oh, well, maybe if I don't shag him, then I feel like he won't be interested. Like definitely, like I think that's definitely something to keep in mind. Right, are we ready? Yeah, cool. Dilemma time. Dilemma time. So I've got a fantastic one here. I've already got an opinion. I'm not going to say it. Okay. Hey girls, hope you have both had a great weekend and ready for dilemma time because I need to debrief with someone. I went on a date with a guy on Saturday just gone. I met him on Hinge

and I've been chatting for two weeks. Is that quite long for Hinge? Quite long, yeah. What's the turnaround between chatting and going on a date? My opinion is get on a date as quickly as you can. Like days. Okay. Everything was fun, cheeky, flirty, exactly what it would be on a first date until, until he stole the bread from the other table. What? He's like Jean Valjean. We were at a fancy restaurant in Covent Garden.

No. I made a comment about how good the bread basket looked at the table next to us. Bearing in mind, it was posh warm loafs with that gorgeous butter, not just a slab of warbittons. Next thing I know, he waits until they go to the bathroom and just takes her. No shame. Will people sit? Will people at the table? Yeah. No, they've gone to the bathroom, like the people on the table. There were people at the table.

Yeah. It wasn't just like that. Yes. Yeah. No shame. He just reached over, grabs surprise, who says, finders keepers. Stop. That's actually quite attractive. This is so much that she goes, I kind of, I kind of admire the confidence. Yeah. Or should I find it unsettling? To be honest, I laughed so hard. Oh my god.

My stomach hurt and I slightly wet myself. Because I honestly was so shocked, but I don't really know how to feel about it. Or whether to let it slip and see him again. Yeah. For reference, when the couple came back, they asked the waiter if they'd taken the bride away as they hadn't had anything. The guy just sat next to me laughing. No.

And so was I, as I didn't know how to feel. No. Help, please. What are your thoughts? Oh, I think it's quite safe. I feel like it's- See him again. Seems like he's a bit of a joker. See him again. Yeah, I think that's quite safe. I feel like seems like he's a bit of a joker. Niamh See him again. Bekkah Yeah, I think that's quite funny.

Niamh It's see him again. I'm telling you, I think that's quite funny. I think that's nothing to worry about. I think- Bekkah If he was disrespectful to the staff and was being arsey, then that's a bit of a red flag. But if he was like, oh shit, like a bit of- I actually have read somewhere that doing something spontaneous as your first date makes you like someone more. Niamh Interesting. that like doing something spontaneous as your first date makes you like someone more. Interesting.

Because the adrenaline rush, you like you get such a dopamine surge when you go to have like an adrenaline rush, then you link it to that person. Oh, that's so interesting. So I think he's been doing his research. I think he's like, I'm going to steal a bread basket. I also think there wasn't anything sinister in that. No, no. He didn't leave and not pay the bill. He didn't like, you know, click at the waiter. It was, I think it was a little flirty thing.

Yeah. I think see him again. I definitely think see him again. I think he sounds quite funny. And I think it's even 10 times funnier than it's done in a posh restaurant. Yeah, I would find that. That would happen to me. I personally don't see it as a red flag. I think it's funny. I would find that quite funny. Yeah. Cool.

Okay, are we ready? Yeah. Thank you. I was silently eking. Okay. Yeah. I've got one. I've got one. Okay. Are we ready? I'll ping pong you.

Yeah. So this is from like a friend who just looks at Hinge Profiles. Yeah. I've got one. I've got one. Okay. Are we ready? I'll ping pong you. Yeah. So this is from like a friend who just looks at hinge profiles. Yeah. You know, or like Tinder profiles, group photos only. Oh, I'm not even trying to date you. But if I was the one trying to date you, I'm so fucking confused which one you are. Yeah. Like, honestly, it's like trying to solve a game of guess who? No, literally. I'm like, who are you? Literally. Like, who are you? I don't understand, and you know what? I tell you what, they look different in every single great photo. So I'm like, who actually, who are you? And they're so stupid, because some of them, their friends are more attractive.

That's, that is the thing. So you think, as long as it's the guy on the white top, you swipe and it's not, and you think, who, who? You're speaking my language. This is my life. This is it. Ready? Yeah. Mine is when men wear sunglasses in their hinge profile, like only sunglasses. It happens genuinely more often than you think where they're wearing sunglasses and I'm like, what are you hiding? What are you hiding? What are you hiding? And then you scroll all the

way down to the bottom and you go- Eyes and windows to the bottom. And then they'd have the glasses off and you go, ah, tell me, like watching me. I don't know. It's like almost their eyes don't suit their face. Like I genuinely, I don't know if it's because it covers like the majority of their face and then they take it off and I'm like, interesting. But like, I don't understand like why you're not going to go on the date in sunglasses. Like own it. Let me see it. It's like first, I immediately now if I see a guy in sunglasses as his first picture,

I will swipe off instantly. Really? I'm literally like, I don't know what you look like. Let that be known, Avery Flessness. I don't know what you look like. Let that be known. Yeah. If you want a bit of the peach, take the sunnies off.

Okay, yeah, exactly. Question time. Question time. You are? Serious. I'm deadly serious. You see me? I'm deadly serious. So my question to you is, do you think online dating apps and online

dating will be phased out? I think 100%. I think everything's like, I think everything's the phase. I think it will still be around. But I think they'll be the new thing. Like dating apps were the new thing for so long. And there was almost a trend for a while of like, I met him on Hinge, I met him on Tinder, like, and that was quite exciting. But now it's boring. People are like, that's so dull. That's not romantic. There'll be a new thing. Oh, I met him at this, I've got no idea, like a singles rave. I met him, do you know what I mean? There Not be something new. I think I'll go out of fashion.

My silly question is, if you had to write a dating app bio for me, what would you say? Oh my God. We'll feel the kitty at meal. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Okay. I'll actually be like, no, but you're not actually going to do it. Never ever. It's so funny if I say something to him like, if we break, no, no, I don't even want to talk. I'm like, okay, okay, fine.

I would say, I would say you'd have a few like sexy photos on. Thank you. And then you'd be like, the key to my heart as your like prompt would be like jewelry. Thank you. The key to the way to win me over, buy me jewelry. Thank you. And then I think you could do something funny where like, because you obviously go on holiday quite a bit, you could have photos of you on holiday. And then you could say like one

thing I really want to do is go on holiday. That I think could be quite funny. Yeah, because I never have. Because you never ever have. Lovely. And then maybe something wholesome like a life goal of mine to have a little dash and yeah, something like that vibe with your sexy photos sprinkled in nicely. Thank you. I love that. I think that'd be perfect.

I love that. By the alter ego. Yeah, exactly. Thank you, darling. Yeah. Well, I hope you've all enjoyed our app. Yeah. Oh, my God. Have a great week by gorgeous. Have a lovely week.

I love you. Enjoy. Love you. Bye. I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul