The Debrief - Debrief Roulette ft. Archie | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: October 14, 2024

Welcome back to The Debrief! This week we are joined by Archie whilst we rattle through some dilemmas sent in by you guys! As always please email hello@thedebriefpodcast.co.uk or DM us @the.debriefpod...castHave an amazing week! Lots of love, K+K xx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 hi guys it's me again it's us again it's a new combo it is it's it's arch and's Arch again. But it's a new combo. It is. It's Arch and Katie. It didn't bring part three. It's the third iteration, I suppose. Because Kit is not with us. Well, she's alive. She's alive, yes. That was poorly phrased.
Starting point is 00:00:36 She's not here right now. She's a busy bee. She's a busy girl. Busy bee. Busy bee. So Archie has graciously stepped in, but I've just realised we've never done this before. And we're actually sat quite close.
Starting point is 00:00:46 I know. It's quite funny. We're sharing a mic, so happy Tuesday. Or Monday for you guys. Oh, yeah. Happy Monday. Well done. No flies on you.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Archie, are you excited to be back? I am. I am excited. I'm actually excited just to do it in our flat. Yes, I actually just interrupted Archie's nap. She did. On this very sofa. On this very sofa.
Starting point is 00:01:11 It terrified me. Terrified me? I didn't see you there. Well, I don't know why I didn't say anything as well, because you woke me up, walked in. I was on the phone, yeah. Yeah, and then you walked away again and came back in. I was like, do I say no?
Starting point is 00:01:22 Like, hey! I'm trying to escape. You'd already left at, like, one like one too many yeah it was a crap nap too i'm sorry it gave me like 12 minutes i'm sorry i didn't i underestimate i saw where you were on fire my friends report that you'd be a lot longer that was rude to me well that is actually rude because i've got my quick pace i was hot footing it the whole way home. Yeah. Okay, what is your mantra this week? My mantra is, my body can do anything my mind decides it can.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I like that a lot. Do you want to elaborate on that? Yeah, so I'm training for a lot of, I don't want to say it too soon, because I'm not after that, but training for, oh, so training to try and do a half marathon every day in November before November,
Starting point is 00:02:04 which means I actually have to kind of try and replicate that as well before then. So I ran a half marathon yesterday and then I ran back from work today. Did you? Yeah, I did. Well done. Thank you. And my body actually feels fine, Dutch wood. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:17 But I'm telling myself it's a mental game. Right. It's not the body. The body is fine. The body can do what we want it to do. We're fit and healthy. Lucky. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:24 It's the mind. Luck. Okay. So the body can do what we want it to do we're fit and healthy lucky yeah it's the minds so my mind can do anything my body no my body can do anything my mind decides it can that is true your legs have run marathons they have so you can do a half truly every day though every every day but you got to join in with me not for the half no what you will do one of them i'd walk one sure i'm gonna do on saturdays you're gonna do a pub crawl one so you run tribe came between different pubs and like stop at each pub okay i could do like a run walk yeah that's the last of our incidents get online um my mantra is i'm grateful for everything that comes my way yeah you are yeah are. Yeah, big time. Big time. Well, actually, I thought it was...
Starting point is 00:03:07 No, yes. I've been having, like, some fun meetings. Meetings. Meetings. You've booked a meeting. We had a friend that always, like, would go meet up with a friend for coffee, but call it, like, a meeting.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Who's the friend? I have a meeting. I have a meeting. So now every time I say I have a meeting, I always feel like it's really insignificant but they were very formal both at the same place actually
Starting point is 00:03:28 both did a great coffee yeah it was the Hoxton Hotel guys really great very expensive looks very rich like very like decadent
Starting point is 00:03:38 but like edgy yeah it's Shoreditch isn't it yeah like there is one in Shoreditch one in Hoban I went to the Hoban one very nice very cool vibes great sofas It's Shoreditch, isn't it? Yeah, like there is one in Shoreditch, one in Hoban. I went to the Hoban one.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Very nice. Very cool vibes. Great sofas. Great places to sit. You had a meeting on a sofa? No, I had them. I was waiting in like the lounge area and then I sat down. But it felt very weird.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I'm here for a meeting. I'm like, okay. I was like. I'm like, I'm too young to do it. I never think that meetings happen in a hotel. It was like a work coffee, kind of like, oh... Yeah, three won a gun. Yeah, I did. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I was like, winning! They were like, do you want anything? I was like, no, no, no. I'm like, skinny, fat white. Is that white? You've changed it to a skin long. Well, I would say I'm trying to be in my health era. Apparently skinny, fat white is a better thing.
Starting point is 00:04:24 So there's less milk, isn't there? Just a little bit less. But then I tell myself I end up doing that and then getting like three of them. But then I've also just got myself TV pasta for dinner. So who's really winning? You are.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Me. What's your song? My song is The Vaulting Children. Fuck! So again, on my runs, I've come up with a new thing that listens to musical theater and i'm i will admit i usually slander it i give you guys real real shit but there's something that revolting children from now on and like a bit of limits can do to me yeah i need you to listen to
Starting point is 00:05:00 totally fucked from spring awake and while you run because that's a banger see i have a feeling maybe this is my ignorance but like i'm i don't think i'm gonna draw something that i haven't heard when i was like a child i see i see like it's like almost yes oh and you're when you're like young wild and free and you're like oh my god i remember this is it now billy eddie as well solidarity yeah oh solidarity dream roles will never play bruce what i could have done with that role you could have been you would have been the best bruce yeah i had to wait for it you would have been the best bruce yeah anyway what's yours mine is bed cam by sabrina carpenter so she's on tour at the moment and all my tiktok for you pages is her tour footage yeah see i'm i i think she's a good singer yeah i've seen a few clips and it sounds like it's not like the songs interesting she's done like jazz covers of some of her like
Starting point is 00:05:52 more well-known songs like to give something like a little bit different yeah but i saw that she stopped her like a backing track no oh what no i mean like you know she's like outros oh yeah she stopped that why because i feel like if she did that for this tour, she'd have to then do it for every single tour, and that's a lot of effort. Yeah, but, I mean, it is her job, is it not? Yeah, but, like, but also this album, like, what is it called?
Starting point is 00:06:16 Short and Sweet? Not a clue. Something? Short and Sweet? She's... Sounds like a Chinese order. Oh, sweet. I could murder a Chinese. Don't date we both don't have the funds
Starting point is 00:06:29 for that no why do you think I got cheesy pasta but I also got us pepsis thank you but we we all have to collectively well well, no slander to Kit here. Because we love sharing. We need her to donate to the cause. Katie and I get a pack of like eight Pepsi's or Coke series each week. And Kit started to join in, but hasn't been getting the packs. She has said she'll get it. Yeah. And she's split with me these ones.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Oh, that's okay. Yeah, yeah. I digress. And our recommendation this week is Archie flower and water yeah in putney lovely italian it is italian see it's a weird recommendation because you go there and you think this is dead yeah so i went with my sisters on sunday and no one was in there really nice waitress it was a bit awkward isn't it yeah it was a bit good music though and loud nothing that wasn't like there's no one in here yeah food came quick nice pasta we were very busy we had all got we
Starting point is 00:07:30 had three spag bol spag bol each and then cheddar pizza nice good roll of bread and then we should like cheddar pizza oh well done yeah but it was good it was nice would recommend it feel hopefully like it was a sunday afternoon so maybe it's busier like a Thursday. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's good. We should try it. We should do. Yeah. It could be a birthday.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Yeah, there are some great, like, flat options we could go to. There are a few on that road that I'd like to go to. Have you guys said you live in Patley? Yeah. Yeah. There's that, like, blue one. Do you know the blue one? Lades.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I would love to go to it. It's like a French bistro. Yes. Yeah, I'd like to do that. I also feel like I feel like it's quite grown up it looks very grown up but it also looks like it could be like a good date night for like you and kit dating night slash when my parents come bye like you want to start it i love it right let's crack on. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:26 This week... I was going to say, let's debrief. Oh, did you want to do it? Okay, okay, right. Let's debrief. Kind of harmonising me there. Well done. Okay, I'm ready. This week we are doing debrief dilemma roulette.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Okay. So I have four dilemmas. Cool. We are going to discuss them, dissect dissect them and give our advice i've got more so this will mainly be your advice as well as my own stellar advice as well but let's crack on so the first one is i'm in a relationship where she doesn't want to fully date and mess around with other guys wants to keep me around i love her too much i'm assuming i think to leave yeah i love her too much to leave but i think to leave yes i love her too much
Starting point is 00:09:05 to leave but i think it's messing me up i thought i'd be able to take it and just be able to go and date other girls as well but i've realized slowly that i can't and i don't know what to do because i don't want to leave her but it also hurts so it seems that he's with he's with someone but they're not official they're not official she's openly dating other guys but he likes them yeah and has he told her that doesn't say so yeah we'll tell her that yeah if the answer was that who get out then yes i feel i feel like there are there are vibes with like open relationships where it gets sticky but i also feel like in today's day and age i sound really old but like when you're dating i need to remind myself if you're dating someone you're not exclusive so if they do get with someone else it's a bit of a wobbly place to stand i mean
Starting point is 00:09:55 that would really confuse me because that does sound scary like i mean luckily i never had go and do that so like the idea of the idea of dating someone and then thinking, are you dating other people? That is actually scary. No, isn't it? But then also, it's probably good because then you're like, we're married. Yeah, I think because sometimes I get ahead of myself. That if I was, like, going on dates with guys, I'd be like, he's my boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:10:17 But this is the thing, like, I think with online dating, which gets so confusing with people is when they talk to someone online, they're online for a reason. Like, they want to have a partner. So when you then talk to someone, you they're online for a reason like they want to have a partner so when you then talk to someone you're then going to start thinking about the future you are going to start believing so it is always a bit complicated where it's like i think there should be like isn't tinder meant to be a bit more like shagging about and hinge is that meant to be relationship stuff yeah i think so but i was actually saying literally who's i saying this to like a friend of mine today i feel like especially in cities like big cities like london because it's such
Starting point is 00:10:50 instant gratification like likes comments blah blah you're getting that streaming in constantly the the actual likelihood of getting someone out on a date is actually a lot harder because you could be talking to someone and then some someone else likes you social media it very much is yeah i didn't have a one of you know what is it when you because you could be talking to someone and then someone else likes you. It's like another social media. It very much is, yeah. I didn't have a one of, you know, what is it when you go through all the apps? Like on like a Sunday morning,
Starting point is 00:11:12 I'll go through Instagram and Facebook. Yes, no, it is like a rotation. No, honestly, it is such a rotation. Nice little scroll around. I would tell him to, well, obviously say how he feels. Yeah. How long have they been seeing each other?
Starting point is 00:11:27 Does it not say? Doesn't say. Okay. I assume it's fairly new. I think it's been longer than, like, a couple of dates. Yeah, like, I would say over, like, three months. I'd be fair. Three months?
Starting point is 00:11:38 Do you think? Oh, me and Kit got together within, like, a week. Do you think less? Oh, I don't know. Because if you're saying a few dates, that's over the course of, let's assume you're seeing each other maybe, like, like a week do you think less oh i don't know because if you're saying a few dates that's over the course of let's assume you're seeing each other maybe like once a week i would say a month then like my date for you if you're going on a fourth date with someone you're gonna like them enough not to want to be with other people yeah saranus but you can't slander
Starting point is 00:11:58 them by like date one or two yeah but then imagine how awkward if you saw them like oh i'm sorry i feel like i'm adding to this guy say how you feel mate say it with your chest exactly okay the next one my partner and i have been together for almost a year but it's been a pretty rocky relationship when we first started talking my partner told me about having had feelings for a friend. Let's call him H. Before we got together, they decided to stay friends. We got along well and I thought we could build a future together. And after three months of talking, we made our relationship official. However, in the same month we started dating, my partner went on a trip with H and a few other friends. I didn't have the best impression of these friends to begin with and felt like they
Starting point is 00:12:43 really didn't respect my relationship with my partner and the trip caused a lot of tension between us and i'm still struggling to work through it during the trip my partner got really drunk and stopped sharing her location with me i called and texted but didn't get any responses naturally i was really worried and around three honestly oh it's just a menace on a night out um around 3 a.m one of my partner's friends used her phone to text me saying don't worry she's with us and sent a video of her unconscious from drinking after that i didn't hear anything until the next morning and i was upset not only because my partner was drinking too much um but because her friends didn't keep me updated when i was clearly
Starting point is 00:13:25 worried for that my partner apologized and i tried to move on but when my partner returned from the trip they offered to let me look through their phone to see what they'd been up to and while scrolling i found a photo of them and h laying down together and hugging at first i tried to brush it off but eventually i couldn't ignore it anymore when i asked about it my partner said it was an accident because they were drunk and assured me that there were no feelings involved. I later found out that their friends had taken the picture posted it in their group accounts and laughed about it. This really hurt me because it made me feel disrespected by both my partner and their friends as if my feelings didn't matter and I'm struggling with the situation and don't know how
Starting point is 00:14:02 to move forward. Am I overreacting or are my feelings valid? How should I address this with my partner and their friends? That's sticky. Yeah. Initial reaction would be get out. Your feelings are very valid. Feelings are always valid first. If there's feelings, they're valid.
Starting point is 00:14:18 That's what you can always rely on Arch for. Because if I'm like, I don't know if I'm overreacting, you're like, no. No, feelings are always valid. But it's just how you've got to that feeling we need to understand i would definitely say that that's really muggy it is quite like the friends as well as muggy the thing with the friends like i'm not actually that fussed about the friends because friends don't have any loyalties towards you that's fair we've also been in situations where we have friends who we
Starting point is 00:14:44 maybe not keen on partners or something like that right yeah where it's like we would probably be Friends don't have any loyalties towards you. That's fair. And we've also been in situations where we have friends who we, maybe not keen on partners or something like that. Right, yeah. Where it's like we would probably be doing the exact same thing if we didn't know there was a person that we wanted them to get with. Bloody, bloody blah. But it's your partner's issue there. Like that really, not to keep you in the,
Starting point is 00:14:58 like I'm a, like Katie said, I'm a man, like if, I can worry about Kit a lot. And I find my friends fucking feelings. It's only because you care, though. It is only because I care. But if Kit lot and I find my friend's fucking feelings it's only because you care though it is only because I care but if Kit if I was on that if that happened to me
Starting point is 00:15:10 I'd be on the fly she tired her her find my friend's car that's muggy and then I get a photo of her unconscious and then see her with someone I know she said she had feelings for nah
Starting point is 00:15:22 no it's bad it's bad that It's bad. That is really bad. And then her being like, it's not that deep. Yeah, it is deep. That's how deep value your feelings make.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Yeah. Right out, out, out. Yeah. It's just... Plus, you've been together a couple of months. Why are you not invited on this trip? Also unfair. Because you've...
Starting point is 00:15:43 What was it? Three, four months they said? Yeah. That's a while like and you should be kind of into well not you should but like most dynamics are mostly integrated into a friendship group by that point yeah that you would be invited especially if it's like a like a partner and your partner should fight for your corner like yeah even if your friends like there might be situations i don't want to say that but like your partner should fight for you to come
Starting point is 00:16:07 and if they don't then it's like they're keeping something special if there's yeah and this is a very specific reason that they're like oh it's a no couples trip but even then you would feel like you would be socialised yeah but I also feel
Starting point is 00:16:21 no couples trips like how old are you yeah artie's like i just want to be with kit no but like i feel like at that point like if it's a no couples trip that's a deliberate reason for it being a no couples trip because yeah but usually because it's like a girl's holiday or like we're going on a boy' holiday. But that's the thing. It was mixed. And I understand girls and boys being friends. Like, absolutely. Yeah. Imagine if like me and you went on holiday
Starting point is 00:16:50 and said no couples to kit. Like a group of friends. I see what you mean. It's like, why would you not? I see what you mean. Yeah, if loads of people are coming, why not one extra? And also it wouldn't be like you're needing an extra room to be be sharing a bed so yeah i would i'm sorry about that buddy i would vocalize it
Starting point is 00:17:12 and see what reaction you'd get well yeah if there's already a bad reaction i'd be like me personally i'd be like you're hiding something yeah my okay an optimistic point of view here for the love of the relationship yeah would be to really try and make an effort to get to know h yeah and see what if you can be like oh i'd like to get to know you i'd like to see this dynamic yeah like i respect you've had feelings before like you can do you feel younger but if then it's too sticky and he's like yeah like i think you and also trust your hunches i feel like if you're younger but if then it's too sticky and he's like yeah like i think you and also trust your hunches i feel like if you've always had a hunch that there's something like there's a flirtation or you know that some like even if your girlfriend doesn't fancy this guy
Starting point is 00:17:57 yeah like their intentions could be wrong like the the friends intentions, like you can read that. Yeah. Yeah. But no, I don't know. Cause it can't really put the friends into this equation. Can we can, but like the golf,
Starting point is 00:18:15 it should be the girlfriend. It should be reassuring enough. Like you shouldn't feel like insecure from her. And it seems like she's made you feel that way. Sorry, mate. Sounds rough. Tough. Tough. Tough. Tough. from her and it seems like she's made you feel that way sorry mate sounds rough tough tough tough tough it's my new favorite word guys tough kind of getting into it now it catches doesn't it that's what i just burped i'm down right no coffee this time is a bit wow it doesn't really affect me i don't think i always feel the same way but i feel like at this time i'd be like whoa yeah i was feeling really tired when we started the pod so i was like were you
Starting point is 00:18:48 she nervous so i've got to pipe up for the for the ladies okie dokes next one me and my boyfriend have been together for almost three years now we've had a very healthy relationship and we are our own best friends and have always had an open and honest relationship. Recently, however, he opened up about something that was very shocking. He said that he wasn't happy in our relationship. I asked if there was anything in particular
Starting point is 00:19:16 that I was doing or if it was external factors, but he said that he has no reason for it. He just feels sad in the relationship now. He also said that he feels uncomfortable with me sometimes like really randomly just can't deal with anything to do with me and just feels uncomfortable both of these things make no sense to me at all and i'm extremely confused we've sat down and talked and cried about it but it's and really tried to flesh out what's causing all this but he just doesn't know he still loves me and he's still attracted to me physically and as a person. He just says he really doesn't know why he feels upset within the
Starting point is 00:19:49 relationship and has felt it has gotten gradually worse. We both don't want to break up, but I don't want him to feel sad when he's with me, but I also want to feel stable within the relationship. I've tried everything I can to help him. I've tried to push him to talk. I've tried to give him space. I've encouraged us to spend more quality time together and I've encouraged him to spend more time with his friends. I'm just not sure what to do. I feel like we should break up, but I see myself with him forever and we both don't want to end things. He's really ensured me that it's not, it's not him wanting to see other people and he feels guilty for feeling unhappy anyways i just want to make him feel okay in the relationship or do i just cut it off that's really tricky yeah it doesn't sound like it's a relationship thing that sounds like that's his mental health yeah because if you both reassured
Starting point is 00:20:37 that he's still attracted he's still in love yeah it's not that he wants to date other people and he's just unhappy that seems like it's a situation where he it is not in the best mental headspace i would advise i mean you know i know you basically said all the right things yeah and like disclaimer like you all know we're not therapists or psychoanalysis or that stuff but if you advise him to see his friends and like i would i would maybe put the offer of, or like try and put some feeders out for some therapy. Yeah. And I actually think that,
Starting point is 00:21:10 so I've only realized this myself. I started to look into therapies, like I know that we will discuss it. Yeah. And there are, I think sometimes people can get freaked out by the word therapy or like psychologists, but they're life coaches.
Starting point is 00:21:23 And don't get me wrong. When I heard about life coaches before I't get me wrong when i heard about life coaches before i was i had like an experience with someone who was life coach before and i was like this doesn't yeah really work or make sense to me but i think it's been something in the past five years that really developed yeah and it might be something that can be integrated into the right way for particularly male individuals yeah that's that stupid stigma attached to try and reach help if they go through a life coach that some of them focus a lot on fitness some of them focus a lot on like
Starting point is 00:21:52 step by step so that might be something good to like present and then also if you're close with his mates maybe pop one of them a message and say i don't know that might be a bit intrusive maybe you might but like i think if i was feeling low and kit identified that and if she a message on my friend saying i think it'd be great if you know i should have some time together i think i would appreciate that i never had that but that sounds maybe like something that they could do but yeah i think you're doing the absolutely best thing you're doing i wouldn't cut it off unless it gets too much on you yes yeah it shouldn't like whilst you should be there to help it also shouldn't be your responsibility to like make him feel like happier and like that's not on you necessarily to do that
Starting point is 00:22:36 and if he's still saying like you i'm sure you do make him happy i'm sure it sounds like this is more about there's other things at play yeah um what do you think no i agree and i think it's one of those things as well that's really difficult because i think there's a difference between there have been cases that we know of where people are in relationships they decide they don't want to be in one anymore out the blue and they're like i'm not happy but weirdly enough they start seeing someone pretty quick. Whereas this doesn't sound like that's the case. So I feel like it's something that's worth keeping at. Because if he's saying there's no one else, it's not anything,
Starting point is 00:23:13 then I would take him at face value for that. Yeah, and I would also, it's tough because I know it can be a lot for you to go through, but allow him this time to really process this, to really understand this. Because if he's being an open and honest and discussing you that's the best thing he can actually be yes yeah you can take time yeah so allow him that space and time and still remind yourself that he's giving you that reassurance he's still there for you he's still in love with you but it needs space and time around yeah but yeah bless you gorgeous keep going yeah okay
Starting point is 00:23:46 i'm sorry i feel like literally my what's what's it steven bartlett like keep going keep going you've got this 24 hours in a day oh i saw actually sorry it's just off topic but mo Molly May, Tommy Fury's book, Tell Her Not. Oh, has it got like tea in it? Well, he was like completely denied the cheating allegation. Oh, of course, yeah. Well, now I'm like, what? Like what?
Starting point is 00:24:13 Why then? So I heard a TikTok rumor that it was because she asked for a prenup and he said no. Oh. But I'm also like, yeah. Well, I don't know. know prenups are a really like interesting topic but I'm like also Molly Mae's made
Starting point is 00:24:31 a lot of money more so than I probably think that Tommy has and it's all kind of been it's all kind of off her own back as well yeah so I'm like what's her new thing maybe maybe maybe
Starting point is 00:24:43 like how diana maybe and it's too good right last one okay we're zooming through these so this is a problem i mean not if we could take fucking notes yeah yeah take your fucking time so me and my boyfriend haven't seen each other in the last three months at all. I tried to make him go out with me around 20 times. But he simply found another excuse, but says he loves me just as much. Stop, stop the cameras now.
Starting point is 00:25:20 I'm sorry. Get out, get out. He's talked to me the same way he used to until now, but he started to change super quickly. He's taken up smoking. He didn't really care about me anymore when he said he did. And a few days ago, he actually blocked me on TikTok and didn't say anything about it.
Starting point is 00:25:37 And I've only just noticed now, and we're to see his account from a secondary account, but nothing seems wrong. He always seems to put me last, and when I ask him if he wants to go out sometimes, he goes with his friends or does anything else so that he won't see me. He also told me that it was like that
Starting point is 00:25:54 to see if he could stay away from someone that he loves. What? Can you help me, please? I don't know what to do. That's crazy. How do you not know what to do? I just want to test. Imagine if I was seeing someone and they were finding every excuse under the sun not to see me
Starting point is 00:26:10 and then I'd beef them on it and they were like, oh, I just want to see if I can be apart from you because I love you so much. Am I fucking serious? Three months or three months? Well, it says in the last three months we haven't seen each other at all. So they've been together longer than three months three well it says we haven't in the last three months we haven't seen each other at all so they've been together longer than three months oh buddy come on but he's gone he's gone ghost that's mean sorry but no tough tough love well he's giving you
Starting point is 00:26:37 fucking tough fucking hell it's like what robert dunn's back at this point yeah well I'd cut that off I'd be like goodbye blocking you on tiktok that's actually really that's posting on tiktok well that's also icky or if he's like reposting or like liking other people yeah yeah I it sounds like he's definitely not interested no I would also I'm not also, I'm not going to kink-shame him. No. If that's his style. If he's trying to, like, distance makes it. Three months is a long time, though.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Bloody hell. That's a long time. You deserve so much better than that. I haven't spoken in three months. Oh, you haven't spoken in three months. You haven't seen each other. They've been, like, seems like they've been texting, and she's been trying to be, like, let's see each other,
Starting point is 00:27:23 and he's like, I'm out with the boys. That would infuriate me. Three months? is crazy season that's that's spring oh my god that's crazy yeah i'm really sorry but he's just not that interesting no you just need to you need to get on your horse get with his mate or something like that. Get with his mate. Yeah. Stay toxic. And then block him on TikTok. Like, that's so malicious. That's malicious.
Starting point is 00:27:54 That's calculated. That's weird. I'm like, who blocks people on TikTok? But maybe I'm just showing my age. No, I try. They wouldn't let me. Oh, don't. I have to try to block. i don't know if i say this oh and there's oh i know what you mean um in that yes i tried to block there because i keep fucking coming out because i got them as a contact oh the for you page wasn't working it was just the contact yes
Starting point is 00:28:21 i keep not interesting it. Stop it! Yeah. So locking's a tough job. Yeah, so... He's got his fucking wits about it. He went over every hurdle. Right, okay, are we ready to move on to X? Yeah. Yeah? Eee!
Starting point is 00:28:42 Wow. Do you write through the clock, or does your i just do that we usually do them but they sometimes get how many have you got i've got two i've got two do you want to go first okay i'll let you go do i never see you yeah okay can we try again okay wow when the running app interrupts you at the climax of the song oh and they're like six kilometers done and you're like oh i i didn't need that right now it was it happened again yeah it was from that one it was like we will come back home come back home from that you're you've done six kilometers is it really yeah oh didn't need that.
Starting point is 00:29:25 And then I go back and flip it again. Yeah. And then the song's like kind of the length of hell on my clothes. Not good. Not good. Not good. It's a nice one. Oh, I like that.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Okay. Yeah, both of us are a bit crap there. No, yours has got like gusto. Yeah. I think it's all the milk I've just had. So mine is, now I told you this story yesterday, but I just find it too funny not to share. Mine is something I did.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Oh, it's lucky. No, not that one. I don't get it. I was sat in this very spot in this living room. Now. Oh, I don't know how you're going to come back from this. So we are on like the ground floor of our flat. And it is a bit open.
Starting point is 00:30:09 It is quite open. If you leave the windows open, like, you can see out. But right now it's quite dark. You can't really see anything. There are people that live below us. It was him. Yes. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:30:22 I know. I'm sat watching tv having my dinner and i see our neighbor from downstairs at the window going hello hello hi right at the window right at the window i didn't know it was at this time that is confusing waving going like hi hi i've never spoken to this man before i literally turn wave we look i wave at him through the window, me in my fucking pyjamas, eating dinner. I was like, hello, hi, hi. And he just keeps being like, hello?
Starting point is 00:30:56 And I'm like, yeah, hi, what do you want? Well, he's also quite sassy as well. Literally. He was the shower guy. Oh, so then then and then i noticed he goes yeah yeah yeah the code's 91 and i'm like oh my god he's talking to a delivery driver and little and then i see the man in blue i would go you'd have to hide in your room and i was like i'm mortified right now because i was literally i was waving to? Yeah, I'm assuming so. Because the whole window was open as well,
Starting point is 00:31:25 so I kept being like, hi! Hi! Like, just an over-the-key neighbour. We know that he went back to his wife and told her that. Being like, there's this girl,
Starting point is 00:31:35 and she thought, who the fuck is this girl? She was just waving and just... She was your moose pajamas. Hi! Like, you see that? Hey, I'm blushing.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Right, your next ick. Yeah. Okay, my next ick yeah okay my next ick saying to these workers getting aggy about me not paying for a bag oh yeah and especially when i have paid and they come over and check if i have that's that they always do it sounds bad i'm like cough me i don't always pay for me bags for life right yeah i'm only human. However, I've paid for them before, and that's the time when they come in being like, I know you haven't paid. Yeah, and I'm like, check the receipt. Yeah, please.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Like, come on, your job copied that, though. It's £10. Go and check someone's ID. Yeah. It's £30 now. £30? Yeah. Cos he lives.
Starting point is 00:32:23 I haven't paid in a while, it the wall it seems no i start doing taking them scrunching them up in the queue so it looks like i bought it from home and then take it out she's like you haven't paid for that i was like did she make you pay for the 30 pence then that's so boring tappy thing she can't i'd even gone through no bat you know where you kick the bat and then she came and was like I saw you oh my god get alive
Starting point is 00:32:49 I'm like yeah come on is Sainsbury's every little house no that's what's Sainsbury's Tesco
Starting point is 00:32:57 Sainsbury's I actually don't know what they're they must have one every little house what's that that's why mum's was Iceland yeah I actually They must have one. Every little house. What's that? That's when mum's was Iceland.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Yeah, I actually might have to look this up. Look this up. I feel like it's going to be something quite catchy. I quite like Sainsbury's. I'm a big Tesco's fan because of the club card. Helping everyone eat better. Oh, it used to be live well for less. I remember that one.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Oh, that's quite boring though. Yeah, helping everyone eat better. I think actually live well for less. I remember that one. Oh, that's quite boring. Yeah, helping everyone eat better. I think actually live well for less, actually. Yeah. But maybe they can't stand by that because... It's not for less. It's not for less anymore. It's getting expensive. I need to get a nectar card still.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Love it. But not as powerful as a test for pub cards. I think before, because you can get niche from a nectar before. But like, it gives me a few discounts, but then like on my app, it tells me a few discounts, but then, like, on my app, it tells me, like, how much money I can do. Like, it's something like you can... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:50 ...earn this amount of money, but then, like, I can only get it in, like, past Neps. Yeah. See, mine always used to... If I had a Nectar card, I used to have it on my car keys, and it would be, like, you could get it off fuel, like, 10 pence off fuel if you spent enough.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Tell me, me. Could be soon i'll hold my breath no i need to i need to pass it so i can join christmas oh you have to oh i don't split shift at christmas half half of my lens i'm gonna have to try and do on christmas yeah well i'm wishing you the best of luck though okay is it your final one yeah mine is when people shake their umbrellas too aggressively. So I came across this in Sainsbury's the other day. I came in and someone was like giving it fucking big beans,
Starting point is 00:34:34 putting their whole puss into getting all the water out the umbrella before stepping in. And I was like, it's not that deep. And also I'm like, it's a spectacle in front of the store. Not that deep, but also do really understand the annoyance. Well, when it drips.
Starting point is 00:34:48 When it drips. But I do get as icky. But I'm like, guys. In a doorway as well. It's fucking. Again, get me right.
Starting point is 00:34:54 What is it with the Sainsbury's? No, honestly, that Sainsbury's in particular. I like that Sainsbury's though. Yeah, I do. I just wish I walked
Starting point is 00:35:02 100 metres to the lectures a little. But controversial lectures are actually not that nice. I. I know it's cheap, I do. I just wish I walked 100 metres that she's a little. But controversial images are actually not that nice. I... I know it's cheap, but like... I prefer the little chicken sausages to heck chicken sausages
Starting point is 00:35:11 because I think they taste more sausage-like than the heck ones. Yeah, but also 70s movies, heck, it's gone more expensive. Yeah, exactly. You have to...
Starting point is 00:35:20 Yeah, I know. Right, are we ready for questions? Yeah. Who's first? You are. You are serious. My serious question. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:34 If you could have a DMC, so deep media conversation, with any historical character, who would it be? And I can jump in first so you have time to think yeah and this is like i was thinking about this i can i wanted to think of something a bit more like fun but the only one that kept popping into my head was henry the eighth interesting i want to actually get to grips like eight wives mate like what's happening there six wives six six wives oh yeah that's the news prison yeah yeah if it's six wives though still six wives is a bit crazy like deeper meaningful like what's going on did you just like like we jump into does he love
Starting point is 00:36:12 them like what like yeah because they're never together for long yeah to my knowledge i'm like what does he like think about like that yeah you know like surely you've got six marriages you've gone through a lot of shit like i don't know many people have had six relationships yeah but maybe his were all and he executed two of them imagine like i'm not liking that so much you kill them being like actually i've got the power to like kill you off so see you later so i'd have a dmc with henry that's great yeah see my the first thing that came into my head, which I just can't shake, is Winston Churchill. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:49 But I don't know whether I'd want to, like, be by his side, be his, like, right-hand manager in the war. So he'd be like, Gaiety, come here. We're trying to sort this out. And I'd be like, great stuff, Winston. Or I'd be like, how was that for you? I'd like that part.
Starting point is 00:37:03 What was the vibe? I really want the pressure of joining in. No, I could be like... I don't like pacifists, so I'd be like... how was that for you? I'd like that part. What was the vibe? I really want the pressure of joining in. No, I could be like... I don't like pacifists, so I'd be like... Tell them it's all okay. Let's be friends. Call Hitler up and be like, buddy, let's have a chat. Let's DMC.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Let's DMC. Go on a run with me. Do a half marathon. Yeah. Every day in November. I love that. Yeah. But I also feel like with him, not with Henry, with Winston,
Starting point is 00:37:24 that I would probably not like the version I get compared to all the versions I've seen in films and TV. Do you get me? Yeah, yeah. Like, he comes across as, like, quite nice and that. Yes. But I imagine he was actually a bit more, well, if I'd done the...
Starting point is 00:37:39 Yeah, a bit more serious. Prick, yeah. Not prick, sorry, Winston, but... Like, so prick. Yeah. Not like... That's going to freak sorry yeah not like it's gonna freak out well it's like the do you remember the dog in the adverts yes churchill oh my gosh i've not put two and two together that's fight churchill yeah is that meant to be him well i think it's like a
Starting point is 00:37:57 parody oh yes is it insurance that the dog yeah loved it it. And he's like a bubbly head. Yeah, that's what I think of when I think of Churchill, is the dog, and I think that Winston himself would actually be quite similar. Because Kit and I want to call our first dog Winston. With a great name, Winnie, great name for a dog. Great name for a sausage dog. Great name.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Weiner, Winnie the Weiner. Oh, how sweet, give him a little coat. Maybe we'll be allowed to have a dog here. Maybe we'll get it by that time. I would love it. I would love it. And I could chill with you when it comes needing.
Starting point is 00:38:35 No, that's me. Yeah, you are the dog. The dog will be wanting kit. I'm like, fuck off. Not in my house. So, my silly question to you is this is quite personal to you oh my gosh would you rather never be able to instigate a game on a night out or never be able to get food on the way home from a night out i'd never be able to get into a game because food or not is a must. But... Even though it feels like a worst...
Starting point is 00:39:06 But you always, like, the minute we enter a club, Archie's like, let's play a game. Yeah, the only reason I do that is because I feel like the conversation's either got dead or no one's, like, dancing drunk yet. So you... Yeah. So, like, I would allow someone else to do that. You can sit in the awkward silence.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Yeah. I'll have to learn to be better in awkward sil but i'm not substituting foods do you know what though those chips we got on the way back from belushi that weekend really really nice do you think i'm too spicy my lips they were spicy but the garlic side of it was yummy yeah that cost me a bomb how much was that they were like five quid each oh my god for like shit cheesy chips yeah
Starting point is 00:39:48 which I think actually I'm a bomb in London is it but like I was like that is for cheesy chips ten quid yeah that's silly
Starting point is 00:39:53 so much it's okay what about you in that version what would you do I think get like never be able to
Starting point is 00:40:00 instigate a game I don't really instigate games anyway no you don't I'm just there for the ride I'm like yeah sure instigate one I'll join in yeah you do quite like to join in though like you're never like oh no i'll be like yeah no i never like oh god a game i always enjoy it i'm always so self-conscious on a night out i didn't realize that it's a game every time you
Starting point is 00:40:17 always know archie always instigates a game and then he always makes us sit down for a while before we can sit down you need to sit down you're not getting to the club it's not sitting in a club you need to sit down eat assess the vibes get your drinks rally the troops see what everyone's feeling i literally get to the dance floor you want to build my anticipation every night out that i've been on with archie every single time we enter he's like everyone sit down everyone to the both everyone we gotta sit down and then he makes us play a game and then after that he's like okay now we can dance and i'm like oh well that's good yeah thank you and have you had a bad night or you have had a few bad nights but i do stand by that because then i feel like if you jump on the dance the dance was always dead
Starting point is 00:41:01 we get to clubs pretty early usually like we yeah to be fair we're not very good at like waiting out in fairness we haven't gone to from a club to closing well i haven't in a while unless you stayed at lafayette still closing once this the past month i've never been in a club until closing you did i've never done the lights turn on never i think it happens past two for me i'm firm by by two. Then I'm like, I have once and it was my first ever night out. So I think my, the people I went with were like, we have to stay till closing because I'm like, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:41:31 Yeah. It's so weird. I saw a friend on, on Instagram today posts about her fake IDs. And I was like, so weird that how like, that used to be like what I was thinking about all week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:41 What ID? I never had a fake ID. Loser. Loser. I'm so surprised. all week yeah about what ID I never had a fake ID loser loser I'm so surprised and that's why we don't play top games yeah
Starting point is 00:41:51 we're all done all done well thanks Arch it's been a pleasure just check it it's been recording yeah and thanks for listening guys
Starting point is 00:42:02 we'll be back next week with Miss McNeil I'm becoming a series regular at this point i see people are gonna start being like get off back on

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