The Debrief - Dinner Party Diasters | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: June 9, 2025

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Welcome to the Debris with your co-host Katie McNeil and your co-host Katie Leach. My friend just called. You call? You call Katie Leach. Guys, there we go. There we go. Thriving. bilingual queens. In Spanish.ol oh I loved Spanish exchange Did you do a stop it? I went to Spanish exchange stop it where did you go? I went to you would

have found that so over stimulating I loved it did you? yeah I had the time of my life there I was actually kind of they put me with a family, my exchange spoke very good English. I mean, that was the common theme. All the exchanges spoke incredible English. Yeah, they all know exactly what they're saying. And I was literally like, Rojo, like, embarrassing. But the family spoke no English. Apart from her. Apart from her. And I was like, they think I'm good enough to be part with the big chiefs. I loved it so much. We

would say So would you, was it, were your dinners like silent? No. What would you try to get involved? I tried most of the dinners we did with the school, to be honest. Oh, really? So we did loads of different like events and stuff. But like all the kids, everyone who had an exchange, we'd all go out for dinner like without the

parents. Oh, wow. Yeah. So like we'd go to like a restaurant and get dinner. What? How old were you? As like a big group, like 15. On your own? Yeah. Is that not weird?

I feel like saying it now is a bit strange, but they'd be like, oh, like our parents are going to let us go, we're going to go out for dinner and be like, Yeah, sure. We go to like Burger King and like sit in the park. But it was held under the school site. But like it was a school exchange. Yeah. That's dangerous. But we just like go out. Why did you get killed out there?

Well, we went to a theme park as well. Terra Mitica. Terra Mitica. Terra Mitica. It was so much fun. Like I loved it. And I would go back. I would love to do an exchange again Well, I could send you off on a one-way trip Yeah, I think honestly my Spanish did get better It would have a week being thrown in environment where you can't trust on your handy English I love to just get into the culture. I love that. I think I'd like my favorite language to learn was Spanish

I think I love my sense. language to learn was Spanish. I think it made the most sense. Yeah. It was structured. It was just easy. I really enjoyed Spanish. French, no, I never enjoyed French. No, I didn't. German, the first two years were really, really good. I really liked German. Then the third year got really confusing. Oh, really? And I was like, nah, I'm out now. I didn't do German. But Spanish loved it. Yeah. Loved it. And would love to take it up again, I think. I might re-download Duolingo. Yeah. It's how serious I am. But if Duolingo pops off every day, I'd be a bit like, ugh. Yeah. Like if it was like a two to three times a week on a Duolingo thing, then I'd be like, yeah, I'm up for that. But like every day. Every day is a lot and you get kind of addicted as well to like completing the levels.

Do you? Yeah, I did. Loved it. Bit of a champ. Always a champ. Yeah, okay. What is your mantra for this week, Hayley? My mantra this week is, I am magnetic. Yes, you are.

Yeah, magnetic to good opportunities. Love that. And adoring men. Absolutely. You just need to keep being like, I am magnetic to good opportunities and massive cock. And who knows what might come to you first. And fingers crossed the latter. I'm really hoping for you, Katie. I'm really hoping for you Katie. I'm really hoping for you. I'm literally like... You're a magnet.

Come to mama. For the snake. Yeah, trouser snake. Trouser snake! Trouser snake! Oh my god, god. It's too good. It's too good.

It's too good, but I am magnetic to great things. Yes, you are. Yeah. And my mantra for this week is, my dreams aren't random, they're reminders. Right? Oh, wow. Right? I love that. That really hit. I have this manifestation book and it was, and I opened it and it came up in there that your dreams aren't random, they're reminders. I was like, Oh my god, I love that. I was like, you're so damn right.

You're so right. Manifestation book. Yeah. Do you know what I'd love to do again is see that woman that we went to. I would love to see Sue again. I'd love to see Sue. I would love to just, I've got so many questions to ask her. I'd love to see Sue.

If I was rich, I think I would have like a tarot reader. I would if I was rich, I'd get my hair blow dried every week. Yeah. So I didn't have to ever wash it. I'd have a tarot reader. I'd also have a manifestator. Yeah, come into my house and help me manifest every single day. Yeah, I love that. I'd have a masseuse. I'd also have a private driver. Yeah, I'd have a masseuse. I'd also have a private driver. Yeah, I'd have cut-off. I reckon I could squeeze in a chef as well. Oh yeah, I do have art shows to be fair. He's doing a good job. Oh yeah, and he loves it.

And he's for free. He loves it, which is really nice. I literally can't cook for shite. You just need to find yourself a trouser snake that likes to cook. Who enjoys culinary activities. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God, we were booking barley things today. Oh fun. Like booking barley things. And Archie was like, what would you like to do? So I was

saying how I really want to do the waterfall tours. Yes. They take you on these different like, take you to these different waterfalls and then you do like white water rafting. Oh my God. Like through the waterfalls and then you get to white water rafting like through the waterfalls and then you get to take photos and all this kind of beautiful stuff. And I thought, oh, I'd love to do that. And then I wanted to do this other bit where you put on these big

snorkeling goggles and you get to see like the colorful fish. There's like this thing in Bali called like the colorful fish, like monsoon or something. And you can see all the, and they're beautiful. I was like, I really like to do that. And I was like, actually what would you like to do? I'm so sorry. I haven't asked you yet. What would you like to do? And Archie's like, to be honest, Kitty, I'd really like to do a local cooking lesson. Now, do you know what, Katie? It was my time to really dig deep. And I just went, and he went, oh, you'd hate'd hate that I said I would love that I said I and you know what do you know what yeah it's gonna be sensational

because it's not just like you're whacking in a bloody mashing it's not like you learn how to make peppers and mash you go out to the fields and you pick the ingredients yourself so they take you to the local markets and you do that and then they take you to the fields and from the fields you get the ingredients. That's fun. So I thought that would be really cool actually. That would be great. I was thinking that would be quite good.

Yeah. But then after we can go to the markets so we can get a little prezi or something. Yeah like a little matcha or something. A little matcha. Well done for doing it. It's five hours though. It's five hours. Yeah because I thought god five hours but then as I actually explained, it's like the going to the markets. You've

got a forage. Yeah. Oh, you have. Yeah. That's so fun though. Oh my God, I love that. So my song for this week is, this is my fight song. My life song. My right song. My power's turned up and that's me fight song by Rachel Platton. Yeah. What a tune. Banger. What a tune. I love that song. My life song. Oh, so great song. It's a great song. Hit me with yours. My song is actually following off on yours a few weeks ago. Let's have some fun. This beat is sick. I want to take a ride on your disco stick. Don't think too much. There's pathetic. I want to take a ride on your disco stick. Love game. I think that's on your mind at the moment, Katie. Disco stick and trouser snake. Get a grip yourself woman.

I need to control myself. Control myself. Well, I'm literally like obsessed with it. It's such a... Bring back the modern day pop star. Do you know what I mean? Did you ever know what a disco stick was though? No, but it used to make me laugh.

Because do you know what I thought it was? Yeah. Are those glow sticks that you put around your wrist? I thought the disco stick was like a gear shift in a car. That's cute. But I used to genuinely I actually feel bad for my mom. Like I used to make her put on that song. Me as like an eight year old, let's have some fun.

This beat is sick. I want to take a ride on your disco stick. Like obsessed with it. Sarah- Don't you think children are so creative with what with what they think things are? Yeah, so for the disco stick thing, I thought it was like a glow sticks, because you usually wear them at disco. Yeah. And then when it says I want to take a ride on your disco stick, I thought oh, like Tinkerbell, you want to be small and like be able to like dainty and be able to like ride away on these little glow sticks. I never thought it was about riding cock. Katie, God forbid, I don't think I even knew what cock

was or that it was to be ridden. Never Katie. Cock such a visceral work. What's something? What's something for the ding ding daggily doolies? Do you never call it so I would never call it. I wouldn't go straight for penis. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, my preferred word choice is dick. Dick is there Like, so would you be like, get your dick out? Be like, let's say if you were doing dirty talk, would you be like, get your dick out? Or would you get your cock out? I think get your cock out was a bit quite it's a bit too kind of like it's a bit too playful. How about Willie? No, let me see you Willie. No, no, no, that doesn't read well makes me feel sick.

But like, get I feel like get your cock out. It's like a mate saying, get your cock out. Whereas yeah, get your dick out. Get your dick out. That's the demand. Oh, that could be quite sad. That's quite sexual. Sexual.

Yeah, fair enough. Get your cork out. That sounds quite inane. Get your Smarties tube out. I mean, imagine. Smarties tube. If I were a man, I'd be fuming. Smarties tubes. Although someone said to me about my pussy, to like, get your swan out, I'd be like bless it, it's regal. Regal! I mean, swans are regal. Swans are regal. But if they were like get your cinnamon roll out, I'd be like shut your mouth. Shut your mouth.

Shut your mouth and just take your cock away. Remember like people say minge. That's disgusting. Get your minge out. That's disgusting. That will never ever ever be allowed in my house. But do you think, do you think because some people call their puss their fairy. Yeah.

Do you think in Dirty Talks someone will be like, I love your fairy. But I think potentially, especially with the Geordie Sherlock. Maybe. They always say the fairy. The fairy. I'm like, I don't know. Similarly, like if a guy was like, get your puss out, I'd be like, get your puss out. I'd be like, well, if he did call it Pussington, I would die. Pussington would be kind of iconic. It's quite funny. It's got to be Pussington.

True Rackers. Yeah. Tell me Katie. So we went to a soundbath. We did. Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys. We had a full girls day. We... Girl day. Girl dinner. This was my Christmas present from Kit and we went on it was like I love a sound bath anyway you know and they bong bong calm in a relaxation align the chakras but this it was in a pool now oh stop it stop it the thing I love is that Kit asked if I'd be scared because of the sharks yeah I did think that because Katie says sometimes when she gets into a pool, she's irrationally scared the sharks will appear. So then I thought, is this a good gift? No, it was a great gift. Thank you. It was a fabulous gift and it was aligned. It was just so like... Did you fall asleep? I didn't because I feel, imagine, because I get a bit twitchy in my sleep. Imagine if you fell in. Imagine if you fell in. Stop it. Stop it.

Or I even thought, imagine if your hand went into the water and you ate yourself. Imagine. Oh, I could, I like, I was definitely worried about falling in, but you feel pretty secure in them. Yeah, yeah, you're bobbing along. You're at home like you're all right. Do you know what? It feels like a lazy river.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because I love that sensation of just like, I think it's really relaxing. I know. And with the... Oh, it was... Oh, beautiful. Beautiful. Shall we crack on? Yes.

So let's debrief. Tell me Katie. This week, we're talking all about dinner party disasters. My favourite. So not that all like the food wasn't that good. We're talking like, we don't talk anymore since the dinner party in autumn 2012. Right? So I wish as a friendship group we had like dinner parties as beefy as the Maiden Chelsea ones. Oh, like a group of 20 of us all came over for dinner. Yeah. And people shouting across the table. You shagged it, didn't you? You shagged her. Just admit it. Admit it. Then do a Sam Prince and get swirled. I'd love that. Oh, I would absolutely love it because I love dinner parties. They're actually like if someone said, do you want to go on a night out or should we have a dinner party? I would opt for dinner party.

Because mainly I wouldn't be cooking. God no. I'd be receiving the dinner. I just think they're a lovely intimate thing. I think. And also you can hear, you can chat, you can have a good time and you can get absolutely drunk and be at home. That's the best thing because sometimes I think it's the best if you host because then you can get really drunk and then head off into bed. But then you could be hosting and people are staying until like one or two and if it's like, if I wanted to stay till one two, we would have gone clubbing. Yes.

It's like leave at 11.30. Because people, there is the risk that people can overstay their welcome at a dinner party. We've got a friend who God she's lovely. She is so soul of the earth, soul of the earth. But bloody hell she doesn't get the hint. She will stay for about two hours longer. Yeah, me and Katie could be yawning going, oh, I've been asleep before. I'm gonna go to bed and I'm like, oh, go to bed. And she's like, go! Oh, maybe I should go.

And I'm like, maybe. Yeah, maybe. That'd be great. That'd be really good. But my question to you is before we get into the great stories and dilemmas we've been sent is if you had a dinner party, what would your starter drinks main course dessert be? Now do I have to be making it? I'm gonna say for your sake no.

Okay, fantastic. Right, well if we're having an Eileen McNeil dinner party, then the world is our oyster my friend. The world is our oyster, my friend. Now I would start the evening off with something classy, like some cocktails. So I would have some signature kitty cocktails, which usually have a bit of elderflower in, be quite fresh, quite minty, maybe a bit of gin, maybe vodka for you, because I know you won't have gin. So there we go. Starters. Now, I could go one or two ways. I love seafood. So if it was me, I'd love a bit of seafood. However, I know that doesn't always play to the room. So if we don't want seafood lovers, then I'd

do a really gooey honey glazed camembert with rusty sourdough. Oh, you took the words right out of my mouth. Mine will be a camembert. For sure. Yeah. Then main, this is a hard one. Again, it depends on the season. Yeah. It really depends on the season. This is a hard one. Now, a dinner party showstopper, I would say. Oh, yeah. That my mother made. And she kind of did the impossible.

That night she was Mr. Incredible because I think there were a lot of expectations on her. And look, no one doubted her, but mummy really whipped up a beef Wellington for each individual. I knew you were going to say the beef Wellington. I must think about that quite a lot. I think about it every day. My sister is a vegan, so she made a vegan Wellington. Now I wasn't having a lot of beef at that time. And she made me a chicken Wellington. I mean, who is it? Her right mind could not only make dozens of Wellington, but also a vegan and a chicken and none of them be overcooked and none of them be dry.

I actually might have to be a diva. And next time I go up to your house, I actually have to request it because it does cross my mind more than it should. Sometimes I'm like, God, remember when we had that Wellington. It was just kind of- It was so yummy. Do you know what it was? It was like, Mum kind of was like, you think you can cook? See this. That's what it was because I thought, no, I could never cook. you think you can cook? See this? Oh, that's what it was. Cause I thought, no, I could never cook. I've never had a bad meal at the McNeil's. Thank you. I appreciate that. And then just to finish, I would have apple crumble

and custard cake. Yeah, you love a crumble. It's my favorite. It's my favorite. What about you? What you having? Definitely a camembert to start. I love the idea of like focaccia balsamic. Yummy. I'm also a bit of a slag. For tapenade. Oh, olive tapenade. Stop it, stop it, stop it. I love. Where sells it?

Am I being dim? I can't find anywhere that sells olive tapenade. I can't find olive tapenade anywhere. But like, I went on holiday. Yeah, and they had it there. I love it. My life was forever changed. Like, I used to go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach

and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would go to the beach and I would're short good some. I went on holiday. Yeah, and they had it there. I love it. My life was forever changed. I used to get a little cracker, tapenade, feta, a little olive.

I'll tell you what's even better, having some crusty, warm sourdough, a bit of olive tapenade and then dip it in the olive oil. I'm obsessed with it. I'm actually obsessed with that. I'm sorry, I think it'll defo be in where you chose. To be fair, I haven't had a concerted, I've not had a dedicated look yet. I think it would be that. But like, I think it should also be in the good old Sainsbury's around the corner.

I've been looking around Sainsbury's, you know where the satsiki is, where the hummus is. And the little Sainsbury's are the big. The big? Oh! But like, is tapenade refrigerated or will it be in a jar because if it's in a jar then I've got no clue. Where will it be kept? Where is a tapenade? Tapenade? Let me have a look Katie stress less whilst you look I think for my main. Yeah, tell me. I think for my main I would do like a pork belly, a crackling,

maybe I can't really say a roast. But I think a roast is very dinner party vibes. Or like a help yourself situation. Love that. Love that. Maybe like picky tea of like charcuterie. I love a picky tea What we saying listen to all it listen to this olive tapenade should be kept in the fridge after being opened So therefore I think it'll be a jar. It'll be in the jar in the jar section. It'll be in the jars Okay, I'm gonna have to have a look. Yeah, because. Because make a day of it, Katie. It's my new hyper fixation. Make a real day of it. Oh, honestly, I will. Yeah.

Treat yourself. Okay. Dessert now. No. No. Dessert's a difficult one because I think I'd... You? What do you love?

I think I'd probably go ice cream. Oh, would you? Dare I say a mint viennetta. Oh, see if it was mint shot chip. You've smashed it now. If it was a mint viennetta. Oh, see if it was mint shot chip, you've smashed it now. If it was a mint viennetta, that's the perfect dessert. But if I had to like, if it was like a baked dessert, I think I'd do like a cookie dough. Yeah, to be fair, Mimi, Archie's sister, made the most sensational dessert when we were in Devon. She made like handmade all of this. It was like sensational cookie dough. And she

witnessed it at a dinner party and she was like, it was the best thing. And just put it into little boards with like chunks of like milk chocolate, white chocolate, dark chocolate. She said that her friend would just keep them in the freezer. And then when people come around, she'd be like, oh, should we have them for dessert or not? I mean, it was the hostess's dream. She made them and then just chuck them in the oven. Then they came out all gooey and doughy. And she made them in three ones as well. It was sensational. I was like, wow. I know. I do love a cookie. Yeah, they are great. So yummy. Yeah. Big cock. There's some word that you say that you put an emphasis in a funny way. And I'm trying to think of what word is your word you've been saying

recently, which I keep me to pull you up on because I'm literally I find it so funny is I go, yeah, and then they said this, well, quite. Well, obviously, that doesn't make sense. Because obviously, I've done that as well. Well, quite. What are you selling recently? I'm just picked up. You've been saying, but I find it so funny. I'm like, Oh, what about all we got to leave it 10 because we've got that thing. Well, quite. Okay, say you've really smashed it now. I'm gonna be never stop saying it. So fine. It's so entertaining. Because it's got different things. Because if we're pissed off, you're like, well, quite, quite. And if I'm like shit, but also, you know, quite earnestly, you're like, well, cool. And if I'm upset, you're like, well, quite. Stop it. Stop it. You need to call me when it happens in the moment. I'll be like, oh

my God, it's so funny. What is it that you say? I'm going to have to really think about this. You said it the other day. I was like, shit, that's the word. You say it in a funny way, or like put emphasis in a way I've never heard before. And I'm like, I need to tell Katie she does this, but I can't remember what it is now. Sarah- It'll probably come up again. Katie- So hey ho! Sarah- Hey ho! Never mind! Katie- Right, are we ready for...dilemmas?

Sarah- I have got one. Sarah- Yeah, you ready for it? Okay. Our dilemma this week, the subject is called the silent treatment dot dot dot over pasta. Hello lovely ladies. I hosted a dinner party last weekend with a few close friends. Everything was going fine until my flatmate, let's call her Jess, started throwing shade during dessert. I had made a huge effort and cooked a beautiful homemade lasagna. Classic. Well quite. When I served it, Jess barely touched hers. A bit awkward, but no big deal. Then after dinner, she pulled me aside and asked me if I had

used store-bought sauce. I definitely did. And I said to her, yes, I have. She's then started the whole, I know you would cut corners, especially in the kitchen. The thing is, Jess has a bit of a habit of talking down to me about food. She's always criticizing my cooking, even though she never actually offers to cook herself. The rest of the night, she barely said a word to me, gave me the cold shoulder and texted everyone else in the group chat except me. It felt like a passive aggressive dinner party standoff. Like should I confront her or just let it go and pretend everything's fine? Isn't that bitchy? That's so bitchy. Is this, can you just come here? Is this store sauce?

She thinks she's making a roux. Do you think I'm ratatouille? You think I'm making a bloody roux from scratch? Do you think I'm here day in, day out? I've got places to be, people to see. I would be so offended. Sauce. I would be so offended. I cannot. I don't understand this woman. I think as she said, she doesn't cook herself. I think from a failure person who doesn't cook anything archimates me, I'm beyond grateful for because it's amazing. Everything he makes is so yummy. But I'm like,

well, you cook then. Yeah. And also don't make a spectacle of me in front of everyone else. No, that's just undermining. I think you need to chat to this girl about this. I think you should bring it up. Just be like, listen like... Nimble woman. Listen nimble woman. I know you're in a hurry. But like, why are you being shady? Yeah. Like, I just feel, I feel like it's more like, listen like, I really want to like make a nice meal. I feel like everyone enjoyed it. I just felt like you didn't like, is everything okay? Yeah. Yeah, completely. Because like, fair fucks, hey, if she doesn't enjoy cooking, you can't please everyone. Absolutely not. But, like, what a bitch though. Yeah, like, come on,

like, if I made dinner for everyone, granted, like, I'm not a self-proclaimed cook. Neither am I. Like, if I had a boyfriend, fingers crossed. cooking. Because I don't like it. I only cook because I'm single. Yeah. Yeah. I hate it. I hate it. It's honestly I can't tell the difference between that and genuine torture. I hate it so much. I just got no patience. But like, it's boring. If I cook dinner for everyone, probably wouldn't taste the nicest as opposed to like, oh, she cooks and is very good at it. But I would expect everyone to be faked my face. Tell me it's the best thing they've ever eaten. Completely. And also pushing around the food on the plate. How rude. And also the fact,

and I bet it tasted so yummy. Yeah. And she was just being stubborn. You can't mess up lasagna. No, come on. You can't mess up lasagna. No, she was being stubborn. I think you need to have a serious chat with this girl. I think you need to be like, look, what I think also have a chat with her being like, I thought you were extremely rude the other night. Yeah. My cooking may not be up to your standard, but I did something really kind and I did something and I was really proud of it. And I think the fact that you humiliated me in front of other people, that I hadn't gone to some bloody master chef class to make my sauce. I just

bought it and then said, yeah, you're always used to cutting corners. Like what's that supposed to mean? Do we have a deeper running issue here? And then I think you'd need to have a better space from this person. Yeah. I think she's bad. No, I think she's negative energy. Good luck girl. Right. You ready? Yeah. He's I've got one. I've got it is it's happened to everyone. The really awkward silence. When someone makes a joke at a dinner party that isn't funny. Or like you know when someone chimes in like a bit too late. Like everyone's laughing like there's a joke that's going on. Yeah, yeah. And then she died. Silence. And everyone just goes, I'm the kind of person that when that does happen, I do giggle. I think it's the awkwardness. I just find it really funny. It makes me like it's so Oh my god, it makes me shrivel inside myself. Like I find

it really, really funny. Like when or you know, when someone's been making a joke, and then the other person says it like they said it. Yeah. And then they died. Oh, god. And then the conversation kind of dies. And then there was like, so what are you up to at the moment? What did you say you were doing this weekend? Oh, God, so exciting. Yeah, I can't. Oh, my God. It's so funny to me. One of my favourite things. Oh, sorry, go on. Oh, yeah. It's when people put their foot in it. And then they backpedal. Oh, and it's the best at a dinner party. It's the best. Oh my God, when people shit themselves.

Yeah. Because you've got nowhere to go. If you're in a bar, you can go for a wig. You can go chat with someone else. If you're in a club, oh my God, just say you were drunk. At dinner party, you are stuck to that table. So you could do a classic Hugh Grant in Four Weddings and all be joking around about this ex-girlfriend and then she goes, why was the girlfriend or something like that? There's nothing better than someone putting their foot in it. It's horrendous. Oh my god.

Yeah, Kitty was telling me how she went to this person's house and they put creme fraiche in the ice cream. And you're there, sat there, you were the one that put creme frache in the ice cream. And you're there, sat there, you were the one that put crème fraîche in the ice cream. That was great. And I'm nudging you going, oh my god, oh my god, stop it. Because that was Katie, that was Katie. Oh my god.

You go red. She goes red. Oh, I love it. It's too good. There's something that really icks me out about it. But also I live for those moments. But also like, on that,. But also like on that, if you go to the toilet, it's much more dramatic. Oh, because you have to send save face and then be like, I'm fine. Because if you then go, I'm just going to pop to the toilet, everyone

knows. Everyone's going to chat about it. Everyone knows. Everyone's going to be like, well, that was embarrassing for her. Honestly. Right, you ready? Yeah. Question? Questions. Okay, I'm serious. And I'm silly. Okay. Is there any chance, Katie, that we could swap this around?

Just because I've got a really good silly one in mind. Okay, okay. Is there any chance? Of course. Okay, thank you. I'm easy. Thank you for that compromise. Thank you so much. Okay, okay. Any chance? Of course. Okay, thank you. Thank you for that compromise. Thank you so much. Let me think. Serious, serious, serious. If you had to do a themed like dinner party, every single dinner party, what would the theme be? Could be a cuisine, could be a general dress code.

Okay, I like that one. I don't think I do a cuisine every time because I like that'd be nice to change. But maybe, I think maybe something like Cummer's the letter K. And the more we do it year upon year upon year, people can have to get more creative. Yeah, you know first time people laugh. I can go Kim Kardashian. Yeah, me is down the line and someone's a kite. Yeah, cuz they're thinking What do we do now? Do you know I mean what you yeah, it's nice something silly goofy like that. Yeah Yeah, I wouldn't be like black tie. No, because if people are coming from work Yeah, okay my silly I wouldn't be like black tie. No, because if people are coming from work, oh god, kids is black tie again. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. My silly question is, would you rather? Oh, first of all, I know the first one, but what are three animals that you're terrified of? One is shark. One's a shark. Yeah. Not the biggest fan of mice, to be honest. Okay. Shark, mice and whale?

Whales are scary to me. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Fantastic. Brilliant. Shark, mice and whale. Yeah.

I mean the difference. Okay. Would you rather have a dinner party with ghosts? Okay. Oh, now these ghosts like could be any, It's not like you get to pick the dead ghost of like anyone else. Okay. They could be like, could be Jack the Ripper. Help me. Oh, like ghost ghosts. Yeah. It could be like, oh, scary. Okay. Screaming in your ear. They could be like, ripping the hair out like all of this kind of stuff. And also they could come

up at different times at the table. They could be like throwing the all this kind of stuff. Or would you rather have it in a party with talking animals? And those animals would be one would be a whale, one would be a shark, one would be a mouse. Oh ghosts anytime. Really? Ghosts any day of the week. If you think I'm sitting across from a shark, think again whether they're talking or not. He's just going to be eating dinner though. Yeah, but I don't care. Like, fishtail, what's it, fishtail? Shark tail.

Shark tail. Could have the most endearing voice as well. I don't care. They're fucking terrifying to me. I'd be, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Well, keeps out his blowhole. It's just being fucking feral. Yeah, no, no, I'd have to do the ghosts and just kind of like vibe with them. But if they're like, help me, I wish I could go. Come on now. Dig in! Oh, that's brilliant! I think I would. I couldn't do it with the scary, scary animals. Really? At all? No, no, no, no, no. Really? But even if they're not going to bite you?

No, I think you'd... But I feel like, would you do the ghosts? I would... I think you would. Would I overeat with like mice and quokkas? Oh, yeah. The only thing is if they were like doing a woman in black, rocking and then like running out of the room and the curtains going and I'm like, God, I'm just trying to eat. Do you know what I mean? At least I could just watch the mice and be like, you're not going anywhere. You're sat in your seat. You just have to eat then you're off. Do you know what I mean? And I wouldn't worry that the ghosts have stayed. Do you

know what I mean? Yeah. Okay. I hear you. I hear you. I guess yours are a bit of a larger scale, the shark and the whale. They take up a lot of space. Take up a lot of room. And you can't like not look because they're everywhere. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, week! Bye!