The Debrief - Dry Jan Disasters | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

Welcome back to The Debrief! This week we’re addressing the elephant in the room… DRY JAN 🫠 We go through your stories and dissect is the tee total month truly doable?! As always don’t forget to email us: [e-mail] with any debriefs or dilemmas or DM us on instagram @the.debriefpodcast Have an amazing week! Lots of Love,K+K xx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to the debrief with your co-host Katie McNeil, and Katie Haley. Rebecca Mary Leitch. Oh, Katie Leitch. Oh my god, my camera fell. My camera just bloody fell on her. Oh my god, I'm going to have to scare....my legs propped up on this chair. Oh, can't elage. Is that better? That is much better. What a bloody start. I hate it.

I'm... What a stuff. Katie, what on the countdown to your birthday? Yeah, we are! We are on the countdown to your B-Day! It's almost February, darling. It's almost fucking bad. February's full of...

Love. Love. Love and prosperity. Kids you actually need to tell us though what you want to do for your B day. Oh my god guys. You actually need to tell the debrief listeners. So I am going to try and organize a table read of Les Mis for my birthday. I basically I'm need to create a group chat actually probably by the end of next week ideally. Create a group chat. I want everyone to send me in their headshots. I will be casting the entire process. Everyone will be getting their parts at the beginning of the month. You will have ample time to learn it. We will gather, we'll have to pre drink then we will gather. And then we will pre-drink, then we will gather and then we will sing

through lemurs. Then we will perform. Then we will perform lemurs. Now is there going to be like a director? Because I feel there almost needs to be someone to be like, now it's you. I personally don't mind taking that role. That role, okay. I will be casting myself as Jean Valjean.

As you bloody jerk. As it is the day, my time. Oh, it's your time, it's your bloody day, you junkie. So I've got, we've got ideas of like who we want to be who, creative process, the juices are flowing. But there's no spoilers, yeah. Those spoilers. I'm so excited.

I can't wait for you to release this cast list because that is fucking hell. I want everyone to send me in their headshots. That would be so funny. I want everyone to come in performance blacks. Oh, as they should. Yeah, I want to either see there's a studio in Fulham I'm thinking of rent. Yeah, but we'll see. And I've been there before and it's actually really good. Yeah, yeah, definitely should. I'm excited. Right, so my mantra this week is I'm showing the world what I'm made of. Oh yeah, oh yeah, because I was like, just finished my little women run, I'm showing the bloody world, positivity is coming to

me, success is coming to me and I'm like, I'm ready to cling hold of a good tree of positivity, you know? And we're getting our tarot cards read tomorrow. My god, yes we are! Yeah. Oh my god, we are, that is so exciting! Good vibes, good vibes, good vibes. The future's gonna be amazing. I know. So tell me, what's your Munch for this week?

My Munch for this week is my time is a luxury. Oh, I love that, Katie. I've really been trying to consciously think about, like, how I spend my time more. And I feel like I've really been trying to consciously think about like how I spend my time more. And I feel like I've really been enjoying dedicating my time to things and doing work out taking time out of my day to go for a walk. I've been reading, I've been like doing little things where I'm like not just, although about saying not just wasting my time on TikTok, I do plenty of that.

Oh, and it has to be done. It has to be done. It has to be done. I'm still watching the traitors. Oh, God, are you joking? It's so addictive that I actually I'm looking at my like schedule and my I don't have like a day off off in a while. And I'm like, it's actually oh wait, no.

What day is your birthday? Have you taken that off? It depends if I get this workshop on or not. Oh, we see. If I get that, I'll be in rehearsals. Then you'll be doing it. Well, I mean, that's a good thing, though. It's not. I'm not scheduled in. Okay. So I will take it off if I can. Yeah. I love having my birthday off. Yeah, it's nice just to chill. Do a little meal. Yeah, I love it. Oh my god. Katie's got socks on right now that have her cat on. I know. Actually make me die. And then they've got hearts saying I love you. They're so cute.

See if I can try and maneuver it. How did your mom get your, how did she do that? She found a way. My gosh, she found a way. She took a picture of me in them and sent it as a review on the company website. And I was like, that is so good. She was like, the lady who did them, because sometimes I think she thinks like when companies ask you for a review, the owner personally is reaching out. So she was like the lady, the lady, the lady has asked. Yeah, she wants to if you're enjoying them. And she was like the lady, the lady with the socks. The lady with the socks. Yeah. She wants to if you're enjoying them. And if you would rate and I was like, Oh, do you know, do you know for a fact when you get a boyfriend, they will find this photo of you with the review and the socks.

I'd wear these with pride. Would you? I love these. Under a wedding dress? Sometimes I kind of find that fun. Because Katie said once that she'd wear fluffy socks under a wedding dress, which made me die. I would I love to wear fluffy socks or something really stupid. Because under when you have your jammies underneath the dress.

I would do it honestly in stuff with when it comes to like auditions. I like having fluffy socks on because it relaxes me. Because I'm like you know when everyone says you should have a secret. My secret is always that I'm usually wearing fluffy socks because it justes me. You know when everyone says you should have a secret? My secret is always that I'm usually wearing fluffy socks because it just makes me less stressed because it just makes it feel less pressure because I'm like, how can I find the stress when I'm wearing fluffy socks? no idea what mugs that's not mugs. That's brilliant. Okay, so my song this week. Yes. Is you bought me some flowers that gave them to someone else. Oh, yeah. It's another Lola Young, I'm afraid. It's conceited. Katie, I'm telling you, I'm obsessed at the moment. Oh, I'm such a big fan club. She's brilliant.

I also love that she like, she did this hilarious and tick tock without like her lashes because you know how she wears that big lashes. And she was so funny. She was like, I'm lost without my lashes. And I was like, girl me too. I was like, I put my lash serum on religiously every night. I love it. I was like, love it. Tell me your song. My song. So my song isn't a song, per se, but it is actually a playlist. Now in the Spotify Apple Music argument, I'm an Apple Music girlie. I have Spotify.

I have Spotify, but I only have like the free one so I like get the ads Matt to me, but I also Love Spotify playlists. They're very niche very specific Yeah, I was looking I was trying to find like bad bitch like morning my life's a movie vibe Energy love that and they'll have loads of them and came across a playlist called Samantha Jones energy who's Samantha she is a character who funnily enough you are Samantha in sex in the city yeah you were like a Samantha Carrie oh why like what she like Samantha is firstly fucking iconic thank you she is always she's always glam thank you but she also slags eat up that. She loves and she's like always so openly like, yeah, I fucking love sex. And she's she's such a badass.

OK, we love Samantha. So I feel like and the playlist is great. It's called Samantha Jones Energy Playlist. If you want to listen to it on Spotify, you should. It's so cute. Do you think you'd be in Sex and the City? Oh, I'm Charlotte. Is that who Charlotte watched? She likes. I need to watch this. In many Sex and the City? Oh, I'm Charlotte. Is that who Charlotte would she like?

I need to watch this. In many ways, we do need to watch it. Honestly, my life changed in August when we were in Edinburgh and I literally would come home I'd be like, please say we could watch a few more episodes. That is so cute. I loved it. What's Charlotte like though? Charlotte's like, she, well, in some ways I am a Charlotte, in some ways I'm not.

I think I'm more like a Charlotte Miranda. Miranda's a bit more like pessimistic. Oh, you're not more of a realist. Where Charlotte's like, I love love and I want to get married and I want true love. Are you a Charlotte? Where I am kind of a Charlotte. But in the other respect, she's like, all I want to do is just settle down and like live on Park Avenue and kind of, I'm not gonna actually say it out loud. I'm not wrong. This is you.

This is what I love. Yeah. Okay. You ready for our Ruckers? Yes. Ruckers, Ruckers, Ruckers, Ruckers. Recommendation. Okay, guys, I ran it through last week with you, but I'm going to do a big wrecker.

Yeah. Recommendation for Shendish Manor. It was, it was sensational. Oh my god. It was just gorgeous. Like, it's a beautiful setting. Gorgeous. The house is just, it's old-timey.

Yeah. In the sense of it just looks like an old, like little down to abbey manor and it's just beautiful. The service was amazing. We had breakfast there. We had one of the nicest rooms. It was very nice and just gorgeous. And the views they have, we were looking out on the garden. So it was really, really nice. And I just think if you want a night away with someone or if you just feel like, oh, need a bit of time out out of London it's 30 minutes from Euston like it's really nothing and then you can just have a little like nice hotel

little little brakky in the morning then pop back to London. Beautiful. Okay are you ready to? Let's debrief. Okay Cosy and Lou so this week we're talking all Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, guess come on when do you think it was like a thing what dry job yeah judge and dry job like soon as anything more recent what maybe like 2016 got 2013 month no no actually that was a great that was a great gas I would have thought like when you before you said like it's sooner yeah I would have thought like two thousands like I know thousand twenty thirty but you think about two thousand they'll have smoke and I try my leading time different time I would have thought like 2000s. I know. 2030, but you think about 2000s, they're all over smoking. Do you know what I mean? It's a different time.

2013, and it was set up by the British Charity Alcohol Concern Association, which aimed to raise awareness about the health risks associated with excessive drinking. And this campaign encouraged people to start the year with a break from alcohol after the indulgers. Frequent eating of the holiday season. So before we move on, we're going to talk about this today. We're going to talk about what the celebs have done, Jai Jan, what their opinion, whether it worked, whether it didn't. We're going to talk about the dilemmas from Dry Jan as well. But before we move on, I'm going to ask you what percent of the UK did Dry Jan last year? What do you think? Percent-wise?

Did it. Did it. Not completed. Like, at it. No. Like, completed it. No, planned to. Planned to. Oh, I would say like 80%. I feel like most people plan to do Dry January. What was that?

It's really bad. It's really bad to the UK. Oh no. In January 2024 approximately 16% of the UK adults planned to participate in Dry January. One sixth. That's so funny because literally everyone around me is like, I'm doing Dry Jan, I'm doing Dry, I've got to do Dry Jan. It's either Dry Jan or Veganuary. It's not that.

I can't do Veganuary. Not doing that. And that's equating to, which when it equates, you think, okay, that's quite a lot. 8.5 million people. Right. Which you're like, okay, that's quite a lot of people. Fair enough. But you're like 16. 16. Like that's no one. But you know, I actually think dry jams like a, a new and younger generation thing. Yeah, wrong. But I think it's like young generation established in like 2013. So then people will be more load nonsense.

Yeah. So I think that the older generation are a bit more like, well, we're in our ways. We know how to, and probably aren't excessive drinking anyway. So they're like, there's probably not a need to do a dry jam, if you know what I mean. But around 25% of people intended to reduce their alcohol intake beyond jam. So that's quite good. Like it's good to see that, okay, I did dry jam, or at least attempted. Now it's gonna like make me assess how much I drink in the future. Yes.

It's quite good. Yeah, I completely agree. Because we aren't really the only people that did. I feel like I've done dry jam many times, just not really, but like, we're not big drinkers. We're not huge drinkers anyway. Like, I do love a little bevy, but like... Yeah, I'll drink on an occasion. Yeah, but loads of celebrities have done it. Loads of celebrities.

Do you know what? And I actually think this is a more common thing that a lot of people are saying that future, like, this upcoming generation are going to be really good with alcohol. I don't know, I just keep hearing people being like, there's less drinking going on. Really? People like are just more like sober curious. Oh. And I find it interesting because like, I wouldn't say that I'd ever be sober.

No, I don't think I'd be sober. But because also I feel like you and I don't need to go sober. No, because we don't over drink. Yeah, it was like, well, I'm happy to have a drink now and then. Yeah, yeah. But so it was actually so Tom Holland. He did Dry Jan. Okay, then turned into like, dry life. Life. Wow. Because I think he said that he stopped drinking, then realized how much, he said that the first two months were fucking terrible, and then realized how much better he actually felt and didn't actually realize that he had this kind of weird relationship or dependency with alcohol. And he was like, well, if I can keep this going, that'd be great. And he now has a non-alcoholic beer brand. Wow. He like really promotes like sobriety.

And the fact that started with Dry Jan is pretty cool to be fair. It is really cool, isn't it? And this is similar to Chris Martin from Coldplay. He said in a 2017 interview that he accidentally stayed sober for long than he planned during a period of dry jam, because he said he still hadn't felt the need to drink. So just kept joking. And jokingly said, I didn't even realize I was still doing sobriety. I was just so busy with work that I just completely forgot about it. So he kind of did as like Tom Holland, I don't think he is now like

completely sober. He was just saying that I think he took it on for another month or so and hadn't even realized. But his like accidental sobriety made headlines because it showed just how easy it can be to skip drinking when you're fully invested in life. And you're like immersed in what you're living for. But I think that was so good. But this one made me laugh. So Stephen Fry, obviously like the British actor, took part in Joy Jan a few years ago, but shared, oh my God, shared a hilarious story about his very first slip up. He was in an interview and he revealed that he was so distracted during a lunch meeting,

probably about like his career and stuff, that he absentmindedly grabbed a glass of wine and just swigged it. Before realising as we say. And he laughed awful and he was like, oh shit, it wasn't even a proper glass. Like I didn't even get to enjoy it for a glass. And he went, but I suppose I should carry on. So we did. To be honest, this reminded me of a funny story from when I did, I would have been like ten maybe, when I did Lent and I was with Ruby. Ruby told you this story recently and her mum made this amazing chocolate sundae and I scuffed it on and I sat there and I was like, oh my gosh, especially Lent. But it is, it's like when you're so used to something

you just forget and you're just like, oh shit, you know? Like, it is so funny like when you're so used to something you just forget. Yeah. You just say oh shit. You know, like it is so funny, isn't it? Well, so I read the Anne Hathaway sender, she like quit drinking. Yeah. Because she felt that like she quoted that alcohol was wallowing fuel, which I'm like, like love that kind of term because I do kind of agree.

Yeah, I can understand where that's come from. But it says like, she knew deep down it wasn't for me. And it just felt so extreme to say, but no alcohol, but likened it to that. I understand what she's saying that it does feel extreme. Like. It does feel extreme to say, I didn't drink. Because people are like, why? People get their back up quite quickly. And I think it's more of a defense thing. Yeah.

Because they're thinking, well, are you going to judge me now? Which you shouldn't. You're like, just respect that person's boundaries. But people think in their mind, oh, one, have you had a bad relationship with alcohol before? Or two, oh, you think you're better than me? Like and it's like oh. I really dislike and it is kind of like part of my ick this like this episode but people who just immediately assume you're boring because you don't drink. 100%.

But I'm also like if you're a naturally anxious person you can make that a lot worse. Yeah, yeah. I've recently had some bad hangovers. You are such a bad one of my mum and dad's Christmas story. Why? Bad. You were fine, I swear, for New Year's, weren't you? I was fine. Yeah.

But what's weird though is I drank more at New Year's than I did at your parents'. I don't think you ate though. I actually didn't. No, I didn't. I don't think you ate much, do I? I was at your parents. I don't think you ate though. I actually didn't. No, I didn't. I think you had much to eat. I was absolutely fucking mad. We will say that at our Christmas we did laugh. Like at our Christmas dinner we were pissing.

Like my auntie, my dad, all night. Your auntie only sees me at my worst. She was like, Casey, do it again. She literally. Casey, my auntie was like, you were pale. I was like, oh yeah. It was, I looked ill. I was on the train on the way home and I was like, why have I done this?

And it's getting to the point now where I don't think I'm allergic to alcohol. Okay. It is probably that I didn't. You're getting dramatic. Yeah. But I'm like, it's the same thing happened with like, nicotine, right? Where, is if I would have a little puff puff of a vape on a night out of all sick Interesting like 16 and trying to stick her up for the first time I could stomach it

But now even if I like a puff of a vet and I'm children really yeah I'm starting to think I've never had a fape is it like as intense as a ciggie like a having a no He actually really gets you because like it's one of those things that for ages. I thought they didn't have nicotine in them Who really I thought they were like safe. I'm not they were First people who were addicted smoking that recovery things like a placebo thing. Oh shit I didn't think they had nicotine in them. Oh shit I saw people I would you want a bit of a vape? And I'm like, puff puff.

I'm like, you have a little bit of strawberry dye. And then I had quite a bit and I went to smoke. No you don't. Like, I'm so sick from the nicotine. I bet your math had still worked. It's not something I'm partaking now. No. Now.

But it is interesting that I find that we can have really good sober nights out. Oh, I love a sober night out. Some of the best nights out I've had were when I'm sober. This is the thing though, I feel like if you're not a huge drinker, it's not a big deal. You know Archie even said to me the other day, if alcohol got completely taken away from you, like your life, would it really affect you? I was like, not at all. Like I would just get, because to

be honest most nights out I don't drink, only if I'm like let's go for it then I will and then I'll probably be unwell, you know. But for some people it's such a part of their life, they do struggle. Like for example, Lily Allen tweeted one dry jam that she was finding it so difficult to stay alcohol free at social gatherings and I think that's when it's hardest. That's when it's the hardest. Because I think when you're, I was talking to my director about this actually, she was like, when you're surrounded by sober people, that's when it's like, oof.

She said it felt like everyone around her was drinking. Yeah, exactly. Everyone around her was drinking and she couldn't really join in. Yeah. And the funny part is she accidentally posted a picture of herself holding a glass of wine on Instagram with a caption, try jam. And the post quickly like gathered people laughing and joking, offering tips from her to get back on track, which I love.

And she later laughed at her mistake calling it clapper at Lily, which I did love. I do like, it's one of those things, social gatherings where it really gets you, especially I'm like, I don't envy if you're with, for example, if we went out to the pub with our group and I didn't drink, I wouldn't feel nervous because I'm like, it's literally fine. And no one would judge, you know, they'd be like, why are you not drinking? But if I've just started uni and it's January,

if I'm at a new job and we wanna do work drinks and it's a social thing, so you wanna get to know people and stuff. I would feel a bit nervous being like, oh I'm not drinking. I'd probably lie and say I was on antibiotics or something. I'd probably make up an excuse to say it was a medical thing which is so stupid, like you shouldn't have to do that. You shouldn't have to know but I completely understand why you'd feel like that. Like you don't want to be like, oh I'm not boring. It's just so, like it is so silly.

It really is. Bala Hadid said that she stopped drinking alcohol because it had a direct impact on her anxiety. I didn't realise when she stopped that she felt a huge difference. Wow, that's interesting. I've heard this quite a lot from people who have anxiety, that they're like, the drinking makes it ten times worse, which I'm like, you can't. Well, no, I've heard from a few people that they say in the moment, it like takes that, like the overthinking away. But then like the day after, it's like, it comes back 10 times harder. Yes. Yeah.

Okay, so now we're going to go on to debrief dilemma. So I've got a great one this week. Oh my god, tell me. Okay. Hi girlies. I hope you had a nice New Year's together. We did. Okay, so I really need your help. Dry Giant is officially a full-on disaster and is getting messy. Let me give you some context. I'm a massive drinker. Okay. Love alcohol and it's a part of my identity.

Work functions, glass of wine in hand, catching up with friends, champagne, cheeky day, gin tonic. It's just my thing. Get you. So when my friends told me there's no way you'd be able to do dry jan because they know how much I love a drink, I thought fine, I'll show you because I'm stubborn. But honestly, I never thought I'd hate it this much. And it has kind of shocked me.

I'm barely halfway through the month. Oh, okay, so this must have been a few weeks ago. I'm barely halfway through the month and I'm counting down the days until February 1st. I woke up every day thinking, how much longer can I pretend that sparkling water is fun? And seriously, my calendar is now marked with one day to go. Every single day. But here's where it gets even worse. There's a guy I've been seeing, he's acting like I've turned into some health guru. We went on a date earlier this month before I started dry jan and now he keeps texting me asking like, how am I feeling during my sober journey? He's been acting like

I'm sort of fucking saint, saying he's like, you must be feeling so clear headed and zen. And I've been lying through my teeth. So yeah, I feel amazing. When in reality, I'm literally dying inside because all I want to do is have a glass of wine. But here's where it gets really icky. Last week, after the third day, he said he was proud of me for sticking with dry jazz. Oh, that pissed me off. And it really pissed me off. Yeah. And he started to suggest we have sober adventure days to do a wellness retreat, no alcohol

allowed. I panicked. I had no idea how to politely reject a sober weekend in the woods where I wouldn't even be able to drown my existential dread in a cocktail. So I just said, sure sounds fun. But inside I am now screaming. So here's the dilemma. Do I keep pretending, although completely it out, to be this perfect sober version of myself to keep him interested, even though I desperately want a drink? Or do I rip the bandaid off fair fast and go back to the busy self and risk him being so shocked that I've been pretending to

be this wellness obsessed sober saying. Do I continue the date streak knowing that he might think I've changed, which I actually really haven't. I feel like that's my truest form, but he just hasn't seen him. At this point, I'm so over dry Jan that I'm ready to have a massive drink in front of him and just be like, you know what, I'm back. Yeah. This is hilarious. It's me. Part of me is terrified that he'll think I'm like total fake or worse that he thinks I've slipped up. And that my whole personality was just a dry month experiment.

So girls, what do I do? That's really hard. I think be honest. I think be like, listen, I've actually really been struggling. So like, it's not like the thought of like a sober activity right now wouldn't be fun. Like, I would rather

like go out and celebrate February 1st, midnight of January 31st. Yeah, completely. Yeah. I just feel like it's fucked me off as well, but it's like, you're so good, like, well done, Janu. Nah, that's pissing me off. I would never do that, like, we have friends whilst we know that love to drink, and if one of them did dry jam... We'd be shocked. I'd be shocked. And also, I don't think they'd be able to do it, like, I'm

no shit on them, I love them, but I'd be like, no chance. Yeah, if they manage to successfully complete dry jam, I will even then still be like, oh, I'm really proud of you for sticking with her. Like, I feel like that's so patronising. It's so patronising. And that's really hard, because especially if you're like, relatively new to dating, you haven't got a really sense of each other's like vibes. No, why would you say that? Like it is. Why would you say that? It is. And he's like, let's go on a wellness retreat. And she's like, no. It feels like-

I think you need to, I think Katie's right, that you need to be honest with him, being like, I just want to make this clear that this was a dry jan challenge. Yeah. More than like a goal. Yes. You know, I'm not, my goal isn't to be sober. Look, I think you've been shocked at how much you've been thinking about it. And I think moving forward, maybe that's something you need to assess. Because I think if you are, look, it could be an exaggeration

for a story, which me and Katie bloody love. But if you genuinely are waking up being like, I'd love a glass of wine now, then I think you need to look into that. I think you need to like, seek some help. But if it's an exaggeration, then fine, because we've got some friends that are huge drinkers, but they're not alcoholics. Yeah, they just love a drink. Yeah. You know, that's fine. But if it's more that vibe, then I think you need to be honest with them being like, look, I've never aimed to be sober.

I don't want to be sober. Yeah, I enjoy a drink. And I do it for to be sober. I don't want to be sober. I enjoy a drink and I enjoy it for my socializing. It's a part of my lifestyle. And I think if you're genuinely starting to like this guy, then you need to be honest because you can't keep like faking this sober personality and then get nicked out by books and then retreat. Otherwise he's then going to just like like a version of yourself that's not you. 100%.

You don't want that. No, you really don't want that. You need you need to love each other warts and all. Merlot and all. The only thing I was just thinking actually where I thought if I could ever go sober and it just hit me Aperol Spritzes. You'd struggle with that. So that would be a no. Although Pimms in the summer for me, I'd be so jellied that everyone had a Pimms everyone had a pim. I can't wait for summer. I'm ready for it now. Pimms and an Appie. I'm here freezing and I want me bloody, I want to put my shorts on on a boob tube and I want it to be

outside. Oh have I told you that me and Archie have booked Bali? We've done it. Oh my god you booked it? Literally payday. Payday came in and we like booked it. Oh my god, when are you going? Going on the, I think it's the 28th of June. Oh, that is so exciting. We're so excited. And are you going to go straight to Australia from there? No, we're not. We said we were going to, but we're not. Just because it's my birthday, so I think we're going to come back.

Oh, you've got a wedding as well, don't you? We've got the wedding. So we're going to come back, have my birthday, have the wedding and then yeah. Fuck. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. I'm so jealous. Fuck. We'll put you in our suitcase. Please. Yeah, we will. Don't worry. Well, and also I have to carry a fucking backpack, which is hilarious because I won't. You think you'll carry two. Yeah, you're like, I'll be carrying a lot because Archie's been really good with like organizing things. So I'm playing along being like, of course, no darling, don't you see, I'm gonna carry a backpack. Of course I will.

Nah. No chance, stop, bloody chance. Are you gonna, are you going with like a traveling group or are you just going with two of you? Just two of us. Because they're so exciting. JG Are you gonna are you going with like a traveling group or you just going to have you? SX Just two of us. JG Because they're so exciting. SX I know.

But we found loads of things that people are like because you know how Archie has that family friend who's a luxury like travel person. She's like you have to go to these certain spots. She lives out there so she was like oh my god I'll tell you all the places you have to go and all the places to go. It's so cheap out there. It's just a ticket. Yeah.

Yeah. JG I want to go to LA or something. SX Oh my god you should. JG It's just a ticket. Yeah, yeah. Oh my god, you should. I love travel. I love it. Yeah, you should. I feel it's the best thing to spend money on when you're young. Yeah, I'm like, who is really cares about being 22 and having a house? I'm like, travel. Because before you know it, we're gonna both be booked and busy. Yeah. And then we're not going to be able to travel. Yeah. So fun might will be traveling to work, which is great, but we won't be able to explore. Oh my god. Go for it. Yeah. Are you ready? I've got one. Yeah, I've got one. Okay. Okay. It really pisses me off. When I'm talking about something, let's say Tracers. Yeah. And I've been going for five minutes being like, it's so good for this reason, this

reason, this reason. Love the drama. Love the deceit. Love the backstabbing. Yeah. Love the costumes. Yeah. And someone goes, I really, I really don't like it. Yeah, love the costumes. And someone goes, I really, I really don't like it. Yeah. It's really hard. You've literally just shut my conversation down. It's really- Because I'm not gonna keep going now.

I'm not gonna be like, oh, well keep, no, do, like go on, give it a try. I'm just gonna be like, oh, okay. I find it really hard when you try to constantly give over and all of the branch of conversation and someone literally smacks out your hand. I tried so hard with some certain people where I'm just like, and how's this? Good. Great. And how did that make you all like, oh, have you ever seen

this show? No. Right. You're literally like clinging on like, what the bloody hell do I say now? Yeah. So but I get what you mean where you get so passionate thinking even if I, you were talking to me passionately about something, I didn't personally lie, I'd be like oh my god. That sounds really cool, I should watch that. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean like I heard weird things about it but now you're saying this maybe I'd love to watch it. 100%. Or even just combat it with the same energy being like you know, I watched it and I just thought Libba was a fucking bitch. Exactly. You might not enjoy it, but you could go. Yeah.

You could watch it. You might not enjoy it, but you could be like, oh my God, I watched it too. You might not love it, but you could be like, I just thought it was so blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Rather than being like, really, I don't like it. Because we've had conversations where we've seen stuff and I've loved it. Yeah, exactly. And we still talk about it at like the same level stuff and I've loved it, you've liked it all.

And we still talk about it at like the same level, not being like, no, just like, well, you're an idiot. Imagine. Well, you're an idiot. Right. Ready? Yeah. Mine was kind of already said, but people judging you for not drinking. It really bogs me down.

And recently... It's like immediately being labeled as boring. It's like, well, you're boring then. It's like immediately being labelled as boring. Yeah. It's like we were boring then. It's like why the hell would you say that? Because my mom doesn't drink at all and she got a lot of flack from her colleagues. Really? Similarly where she kind of like embarked more of like a health and fitness journey

and was like meal prepping a lot, like bringing food to work and stuff. And people were like, why the fuck are you eating that? Like, have a chocolate bar, come on. People get really insecure about their own choices they're making with food or booze or so they really project. Because I love that. I still stand by. There was one guy we met once, one of Archie's friends that was sober on a night out.

He was doing dry jam and he was the life and soul of the party. Like you can be. It was 4am and we were in this club and he was by far the best energy in that. And I was like, wow. The only thing I would say if you're doing a sober night out, just make sure you've rested and you just had caffeine. Yeah. Like just fucking have a little red bull or like a Coca Cola or something. Yeah. Like, yeah. Don't feel like sometimes I feel like when people are like, I don't do a sober night out, so I'd be miserable. Yeah. I'm like, if you have

a drink in hand, it'll make you feel like you're partying anyway. Yeah. Because most people are dancing with drinks in hand. 100%. But do you think actually, I was thinking about this, but I was right and sad. Do you think the actual idea of being like, should we go out for drinks? Really strange. A bit weird. Like it's really strange. It's just like you go into like, and be like, shall we go do what we're doing now?

In public with alcohol. Yes. It's really strange. Like, don't get me wrong, I love it. The concept is really strange. It's like something everyone does. It's like, shall we go brush our teeth? Yeah, it's like as a social because it's like a social like it's almost like pubs are like just social meeting spots. Yeah, because there are so many pubs everywhere. They're like, okay, well, it's near us you and you

just kind of will triangulate to a pub. Weird. Fun communities at pubs as well, those pub quizzes. Have you also, I'll tell you a fun fact about pubs. Do you know why they're always called like the spotted pheasant or the carriage and the pig? Because back in the day, no one could read or write. So by just saying the horse and the carriage, they'd look for the sign outside of the pub. They couldn't read that it was the horse and the carriage, but they saw the image and they were like, oh, I'm not the horse and the carriage. You're like, well, no, that's too vague. But like the spotted peacock. Well, there's only one lovely spotted peacock on the side of a building.

So clever. So clever. That's so interesting. Yeah. Oh, okay. You ready for questions? Questions! I am deadly sorry. I'm silly! So we kind of touched on it but I want to know for sure if we had to say to you that you need to go sober from 2025 to 2026. Yeah. Do you think you could one do it? And two, do you think you'd enjoy it?

I think the only pullback I have is an apparel fucking sprints. Because I'm actually in the summer. I'm telling you now, I'm going to beef this because I stopped drinking early last year. Before I was doing my shows. Yes. I find the alcohol Impacts my voice a lot not only dries me out, but like also shouting over loud environments, yes, that's my voice. Oh my gosh, just reminded me I need to tell you something but yeah, go on so I Remember we went to the pub on the river and I went with your sister. I mean I'm gonna drink Should have I was like I'm gonna get a mocktail and I'm gonna get a mocktail, a coral spritz. Guys, it was the grimest thing I've ever looked up to my lips. It was disgusting.

And most times, like, they really hit with mocktails. But like, I was like, I don't really want a Diet Coke. It's summer, we were by a river, the sun's beating down on my eye. I just want like a fake, a coral spritz. It was all that. I shouldn't finish it. Right, it was all there. Really? I shouldn't finish it. Really? Was that last? And April Sprits to me is just the most lovely thing by the river, with the sun beating down

on you. I love it. To not have that in summer would make me very upset. Especially when everyone else is, and it's kind of an iconic photo and you're there with a lemonade. I know, so it's... But like in France, I was actually on Halloween, I was sober. And we went out and I was just taking pictures

of people's drinks. Oh, that's great. I thought that was really good. I think I could do it. Yeah. I think I would overall enjoy it. I think there'll be times where I feel like, oh, fuck's sake, like I actually wouldn't mind

like a little drinky poo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's not something in my everyday life where I'm like, I don't hit Friday and I'm like, I'm getting for a drink, let's go out, let's get fucking in Feral. Yeah, neither do I, I know. But I'm so not opposed to it. No, neither.

But it's usually not me leading that charge. So I think I could. Yeah, I definitely could. I think exactly the same as you. I think in the winter I could defo do it. It's the summer. I think I'd be fine in the winter I could defo do it. It's the summer. I think I'd be fine in the summer and I would get through it but it's just more like, oh should we go to the park?

Like festivals. It'd be so nice. Should we sit outside in the big garden? Oh that'd be so nice. It's just more that. Yeah. That I'd be a bit like, oh wish I could have a drink but I wouldn't be butthurt like, oh I'm so sad. I wouldn't be like a huge challenge. No.

Do you know if you said to me like eat vegetables every day for a year then I'd be like I don't know if I could do it. Really? But like, go sober, sure. Okay, I see what you mean. It's not like an impossible challenge. It's not impossible for the page. No, nothing's impossible for the page. I love it. Right, ask me your question. My silly question is. You silly fool. My silly question is, would you rather every time you drink, you end up naked at some point,

in public? Love that. Or, would you rather you end up naked in public? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. My silly question is, would you rather every time you drink you end up naked at some point in public?

Love that. Or every time you drink you will not stop chundering until 24 hours after like, do all the chundering like me every hour. 24 hours. I'll have to bring on the nude. The nude. I'll have to bring on the nude. The nude. Because when I vomited on New Year's I can't believe it, that's so rogue of you. Really rogue because I went to bed completely

fine. Yeah. And I wasn't even, I really wouldn't even say I was tipsy going to bed. Like I'd sobered up, I'd had food, I was like, oh good, like got out of bed, looked after him, I was like, fine. Literally woke up like, sweat, beezing. That's crazy. And I was like, literally ran to the bathroom, lay on the floor naked, on the cold, and I was like, I'm fine, what? And it all came up. That feeling, that moment, I thought, I can't do this to myself. It's so horrendous. It just was the sweating and the deep breathing that... I was like, I can't keep deep breathing like this. No, it's really stressful.

So I'm going to take the nudity. The nudity? No, no, no, nudity! That's like a bloody Galinda word. The nudity. The nudity. I'll be the nude. Yeah.

Bring it on. I'll have to warn people. Like, I think I'd be like, Katey, I probably will be naked tonight. think I'd be like, I probably will be naked tonight. So I'd be like, could you like, just be there if I'm like, and you're like, it's time to go. Like, yeah, that'd be great. And I would be a hindrance to my friends, which is annoying. But then I just limit the drinking. I'd be like, look, I don't need to be nude tonight. Okay. Like it doesn't happen by those special occasions like let's just well like, is, I don't need to be nude tonight. Okay. It doesn't happen. My only special occasion is like, let's just-

Well, like, is it worth the nudity? Sure. Yeah, 100%. Yes. Exactly. Absolutely. Free the nip. Free the nip. Yeah.

Night, everyone. We've got to the end of the app. Wishing you a very successful end to your dry jam. Yes. Have a- Oh, God. Enjoy FedFast. Enjoy FedFast. Because we're on the bloody uphill to summer now.

Spring is coming. Yeah, it's spring, yay. Right guys, have a great day. Bye. Bye. Bye. I've got a rebel soul. I've got a rebel soul.

I've got a rebel soul. I've got a rebel soul. I've got a rebel soul. I've got a rebel soul.