The Debrief - Feral Girl Fall

Episode Date: October 9, 2023

Welcome to The Debrief! This week we discuss the Roman Empire, Girl Math and reminisce on Halloween's gone by.Email your debriefs and dilemmas to: hello@thedebriefpodcast.co.ukWe hope you enjoy!Kitty ...and Katie x Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 🎵 I've got a rebel soul 🎵 🎵 Yeah, I've got a rebel soul 🎵 🎵 I've got a rebel soul 🎵 Let's debrief! Didn't see that coming, did you? You didn't. You didn't see that coming. Welcome to the debrief, everyone. Happy Monday!
Starting point is 00:00:22 Happy Monday! It's Monday, it's Monday. Put your sombreros on and your son and these two put your cowboy boots on it's monday monday monday eat your little possum and your little baby shrew oh wow shake your tits it's monday eat your little possum and your baby eat your heart out debriefers right I think we better mantra time oh hell yeah let's mantra time okay I'm gonna be selfish and I'm gonna stop you go ahead
Starting point is 00:00:55 you go ahead right my mantra this week is pretty simple four words fifteen letters okay okay okay okay all right i 14 to go believe in myself i believe in myself i believe i love that that's been enough this week i tell you what everyone this week has been whack a fucking doodle what has been a fucking doodle i have had the weirdest week i have had so many tears i've had so many tantrums um there's something in the fucking air this week this week i cried this week katie
Starting point is 00:01:34 cried this studio this week studio this week even last week the studio saw me bawl my eyes out yeah and katie bore eyes out so honestly like genuinely we're taking it in turns at this point. Yeah, we are. And then our friend, we literally met up with our friend and we were both in a fucking shit mood. We were both like tears streaming down our face. And she was like... And I was like, yes!
Starting point is 00:01:55 I was like, oh, because there's nothing worse than when you're in a shit mood and you're just trying to like smile. Like I was FaceTiming my parents and I was like... And they were like, oh, Katie, you know, what's wrong with you? i was like and they were like oh kitty you know what's wrong with you like why are you not i was like they know i know but i needed i believe in myself because this week it's been a pretty tough one yeah it's been a tough one yeah just feeling a bit knocked down but you know what i get back up again yeah so i needed to tell myself that i believe in myself because everything's going to be okay yeah and i needed to tell myself that i believe in myself because everything's
Starting point is 00:02:25 going to be okay yeah i had to make a list of everything that i was proud of and everything that i've achieved and i actually came to 10 things oh i know so i was actually like and it was just a list from like recent things yes so what's recent things that you've done that you've achieved and i've got 10 things on that and i was like deep breath i was like i believe in myself everything's coming to me it's all good i feel like when we're lively gals such as ourselves when we're feeling deflated i hate it personally i hate it because and then i try to psych myself out like you're not in a bad mood but i'm like no no i am i guess like myself i am i'm like you know i'm like am. I'm like walking down the street like, dee-da, dee-da, dee-dee-dum, dee-dee-dee.
Starting point is 00:03:08 And then I'm like, hee-haw. Yeah. Literally. I'm like, just take some time. I think there's such a big pressure. We love positivity. We absolutely love positivity.
Starting point is 00:03:20 But I do think sometimes there is toxic positivity. Yes. Where it's like, be happy all the time be be positive all the time be like reflective sometimes it's too much yeah sometimes you need a dedicated just date no no you know what no and then you get back on that bloody horse get and grab it by the fucking reins and you click clop boop-a-doop-a-doop-a-doop my mantra is very short again love it again i feel like we both there's something in the air this week we've both been out going through the ringer a bit something in the air that night the stars were bright
Starting point is 00:03:57 fernando yeah got you yeah tell me mine is. Mine is I Can Do Anything. Yes. Yeah. I can do anything I want. Yes. I'm not sure if that's a song. But you can, Peach. Yeah, I can. I can, I can. I can, I can. I can do anything.
Starting point is 00:04:16 I can do anything. I love them. It's nice. That's so nice. It's nice. Yeah. Just needed a bit of a push this week, didn't you? I really feel there's loads of stuff going on at the moment i feel like i can do it i can do it maybe not at
Starting point is 00:04:31 this second like it's very second but i can do it there's so much going on at the moment yeah you know when when you have such a busy schedule when you have a new period in your life which i'm sure so many people are going through yeah um new jobs new unis uh new schools new courses new a levels when there's so much uncertainty in your life you're like ah i'm feeling really on edge um and i think that's both a place that we're both feeling at the moment there's a lot of uncertainty so it's just kind of reminding ourselves i can do this yes i can do this we've got it can do this. We've got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:06 We fucking got it under our belts. Proud of you. Thank you. I'm proud of you. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Song of the week. Oh my God. Get him back. Oh. Olivia Rodrigo. Yeah. How does it go? The break his heart.
Starting point is 00:05:23 You know that bit. I want to key his car. I want to make him lunch. I want the break his heart you know that bit key his car i wanna make him lunch i wanna break his heart stitch it right back up yeah i mean i tell you no olivia rodrigo my girl my girl my girl she seems like the kind of person that you'd want to brunch with yeah like and just yeah dish she's not actually too depressing because the songs can be a bitch you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah but i feel like i feel like her new stuff's been very like rock and roll and I'm like, yeah. This is so good. Tell me your song.
Starting point is 00:05:51 My song is... Remember to sing it. My song is Pretty Girl Rock. Oh. My name is Kerry. I'm so very flat. Oh my, it's a little bit scary boys wanna marry oh i don't know this oh my god oh my god it's gonna hurt my head sorry and i haven't written
Starting point is 00:06:15 it down so she looks like tori kelly but it's not tori kelly oh okay okay but it's called what again pretty girl rock pretty girl it's on my gym playlist oh okay and just i'm sat there like it i cannot be in a bad mood listening to that song really like because it has like a really good like kind of beat i love it and it's genuinely such on what you would actually love pretty girl rock it's really oh it's such a vibe oh it me oh it's a bit of you bit of me it's a bit of you because you just feel like the most beautiful woman alive don't hate me because I'm beautiful
Starting point is 00:06:51 wrecker wrecker recommendation love it yeah okay so our recommendation of the week
Starting point is 00:06:57 yeah is a pub this time guys this is our first pub so better get yourself ready so we did pub golf a few weeks ago was it last week yeah absolutely bodied it guys and pub golf times two so pretty fucking special yeah now pub golf we went to the dove in hammersmith gorgeous really big group maybe like would you say 15 of
Starting point is 00:07:19 us probably yeah we had this table outside like on this near the Thames. It was lovely. It's gorgeous. And I feel now, if you wanted to have a little date there, it's quite a nice spot. There's like the outside bit has this little spiral staircase that takes you up to the upper level where we were sat. And with the right fairy lights and ambience. Very romantic.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Oh my God, very romantic. And the food, we didn't get food there. It looked phenomenal. But the food looked sensational. So fucking good. And it's like a really nice, because it's a small pub, but it feels...
Starting point is 00:07:48 It's very much a locals pub. You wouldn't know it's there unless you live near it or someone's brought you to it before. Yes, it's lovely. Really, really nice. And it's really kind of intimate, but in like a cozy way.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Like I kind of want to go for a Christmas roast there. Yeah. Oh, I would love to. And it was nice because you had a few people on dates and stuff. Because we were in a big table and right next to us on, like, the spiral staircase balcony bit, like, there was a couple. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Those poor fuckers. Those poor fuckers. Trying to have a nice romantic date. And we're like, we're like, part two. Yeah. And there was, like, big groups and then there was, like, intimate and then there was, it was very family friendly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Like, it was lovely. Really lovely. So that was our wrecker.cker recommendation let's do real so this week guys we are discussing the roman empire yeah everyone who's there like what the fuck is that let me tell no everyone knows what the roman empire is but let me tell you to be honest i wasn't too sure. Okay, okay. So actually, I'd love to know. Okay, you'd love to know.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Right, let me first tell you why we're talking about the Roman Empire. Yeah. So basically, there's a TikTok trend at the moment going around where girls ask their partner or their dads or their friends or their brothers, brother boyfriend friend how often do you think about the roman empire yeah now these males have astounded us they have absolutely so much peach so much they think about the roman empire they say we've had answers from every day yeah to every other day some people say twice a fucking day and even the ones that are like oh probably maybe like twice a fortnight i'm like the roman empire now i started to think about it more yeah and i was thinking okay macho okay men macho maybe they have this men inherently need to conquer okay okay so maybe
Starting point is 00:09:49 this roman empire is kind of bit of adventure you know straight roads is roman empire so they kind of look at this and think this is what they built up this is what a roman empire sustained i need to create my own civilization you know i'm thinking maybe this is what men are thinking they need to conquer maybe maybe there's something going on there not sure they want to build they want to build they want to uh they want to make their own civilization is that their family is that their own is their empire at work or is their empire at home you know i was even asking archie about it i was like okay so arch how often do you think about the roman empire granted he didn't say every day but he said maybe
Starting point is 00:10:30 like once a week i was like once a week i'm like you're thinking about the room it's like me fucking sat there like how often this is why it's gone viral on tiktok because it's so fucking random like it's like someone say to me kids how often do you think about anne boleyn and i'm like oh god at least every day like every day i think about anne boleyn all the time and oh my god i'm always thinking about anne like she's on my mind yeah i'm like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm like what the fuck it's like guys if you get the time look on tiktok roman it's so funny it's so funny i saw a tiktok someone asked their dad they said dad how often do you think about the roman empire and he was like every day she said every day he said we live
Starting point is 00:11:11 in a roman village do you not look at the the infrastructure of our village and think about what the romans did for us this is what i'm saying what but this is what i'm saying like men's brains are different this is what i'm saying so now we come on to the discussion yes that has gone pretty big on tiktok as well so men have the roman empire that they think about all the time apparently which we all have no idea about what is the fucking female version of the roman empire so we asked the debrief we did ask the we asked the debrief what people thought the female version of the roman empire is yeah some responses we had i find it so fucking hilarious yeah so actually so funny i'm like that is so fucking true so i plucked these okay so what are these yours or theirs theirs okay but i find it so hilarious because someone did say yeah henry
Starting point is 00:12:06 the eighth's wives they they think about henry the eighth's wives all the fucking time all the time and in fairness okay valid valid i mean let me tell you so when i went to parliament last week guys if you don't know what i'm talking about fucking catch up come on catch up catch up on the episodes i'm not explaining again come on and when we went into like a pot it was like leading into the house of commons it's like a parliamentary room where there's a statue of victoria and stuff and you have all the paintings of all of his wives and it's like a gallery of her and i was fucking taken about now i stayed in there for 20 minutes like a good 20 minutes okay so i get that girl i get him but the question is do you think about her every day do you think about that every day not particularly but the thing is actually but this is me personally i love the musical six
Starting point is 00:12:54 ah you do so musical theater brain and that is about henry the eighth and his six wives so i do often think about six the musical but more so the music rather than henry and his wives themselves okay the other one was which i can get behind was dogs probably just dogs thinking about dogs all the time yeah i think about dogs a lot yeah i think about dogs a lot which i get it's not as vague as the roman empire though but it's yeah it's not as niche is it no it's not it would be more niche if it was like maltese dogs with brown speckles dalmatians i'm like i can't get a fucking enough of them dalmatians like for me sausage dogs think about
Starting point is 00:13:35 them all the time another one again brunch this is what i saw that one one of our friends actually wrote that and she was like brunch and i was like you know what we take the piss but that is our roman empire i'm literally thinking right on the weekend where are we lunch i would love to get a bit of um avo and sourdough yeah and pop off to fucking chelsea you know oh i'm thinking actually do you know what fuck that because i need to run why don't i go to battersea go to the power station yes i'm thinking about this i'm also thinking about when i have my fucking light smoothie in the morning i'm like oh god i'll be so nervous to have brunch in a few days honestly and this is actually a public appeal
Starting point is 00:14:14 to anyone who has been to milk in ballam is it worth getting up on a sunday and queuing for because this has been banging on about it this has been on my list for ages i can just never like never be asked to go on a sunday especially when the queue's so big um and most people get to that queue for like 9 a.m and i'm like i'm not getting up at 9 a.m for brunch but if it's a really really good brunch like what's it called in notting hill farm girl like farm girl i've never been able to get in remember when we got there and the queue was two hours yeah we were like two hours for fucking brunch and to be honest i've been thinking about this for the last month i'm not gonna lie guys farm girl to me that's healthy girl brunch see let me give you a few of mine so i actually so i met up with a group of girls yesterday yeah
Starting point is 00:15:00 and i asked them the same question brilliant kidnapped she's like i think about being kidnapped all the fucking time i was like kidnapped oh my god you know another girl said to me murder and i was like i think about murder all the time not not actually like murdering someone just oh my god murdered or murder in general oh my god serial killers i'm literally like i'm literally like fucking documentaries whirling around my head maybe women we are bred to be wary you know so maybe that yeah the whole kidnap is like fuck me fuck me like you know i'm like i need to run me to you know yeah uh protect myself well yeah and the whole murder stuff maybe maybe it's something to do with the underdog like been past history oh weird i know i know another so this is
Starting point is 00:15:44 what i thought okay so one of mine was the wedding. I thought wedding is kind of my Roman Empire. Yes. Okay, maybe I'm not thinking about my wedding. No, actually, fuck it. I'll say I'm thinking about my wedding daily. I'm in a relationship. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:00 I see my boyfriend every single day. Yeah. I'm like, what's it going to be like when we're married? Well, yeah, of course. Which means when I've had a fucking wedding. How often do you think about weddings? My weddings? Your own wedding.
Starting point is 00:16:15 My own wedding, maybe like twice a week. Yeah, come on, exactly. But that's only because I'm single. Yeah. So I'm a few steps behind. But even as a single woman, you're thinking about it two times a week because it's such a built-up day in your head the flowers i saw a bouquet of flowers the other day on like when i was watching a program i thought yeah i'd like that that'd be good that'd
Starting point is 00:16:34 be nice shrubbery yeah yeah you guys were watching married at first sight i thought maybe i'd do that that'd be my wedding i'd go on married at first sight yeah you would yeah that'd make a great episode on the pod actually if you could for content that'd be yeah that'd be my wedding. I'd go unmarried at first sight. Yeah, you would. Yeah. That'd make a great episode on the pod. Actually, if you could for content, that'd be fucking brilliant. Yeah, that'd be great. That'd be great. What's another one? Okay, so someone else said their ex-best friend as like, what do you think about that?
Starting point is 00:16:57 I feel like that's interesting in the sense exes in general do flip yeah across my mind about your ex twice a week maybe four twice a week or once a week not in a oh i miss you so much i wonder what they're up to women are like this though i wonder what they're doing generalization i'm the queen of generalization but really but really women are like this. You get attached. But this is the thing. We're thinking about a wedding, a single woman. You're thinking about their wedding twice a week. A woman in a relationship is thinking about the wedding
Starting point is 00:17:34 every single day. So you're telling me that I've thought about my wedding with my ex or such and such. I'm never going to think about them again. You're always going to think about your ex. I feel like you are. Do you think about a certain ex more than the other? Because that would be interesting.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Yeah, I would say so. Okay, okay. But I feel like... Preferences. But I usually am like, I just wonder how you're getting on. Okay, what's another one that I thought was quite interesting? Decorating homes.
Starting point is 00:18:07 I was like, oh my God, all the time. Yeah, I know we do this a lot. We egg each other on with this. Do you know what I mean? I'm always like, that is my Roman Empire. Again, I need fucking, I'm a woman, so I feel I need like a good space around me to bring kids into the world.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Well, that's not necessary. Not all women want kids, but to bring a into the world well that's not necessary like not all women want kids but to bring like you know a home body i'm like let me think of the fucking wallpaper let me think of the lamps zara home in my mind that's my roman empire on zara home zara home how often do you think about zara home oh maybe once a week there's there's something no do you know what it is it's anthropology as well it's when i see something it's when i see something go that'll be great in like my forever home kitchen yeah yeah that'll be great do you know what on the topic of wedding yeah in roman empire my um a girl i know bought her wedding dress okay um when she just started seeing funnily enough they're
Starting point is 00:19:06 now engaged they are getting married um written in the stars but she went out saw this wedding dress tried on and was like this is it this is my wedding dress so she bought it and he was like what did you say and she was like i bought myself a wedding dress what the fuck she was like it's dead classy it's so i wonder if she actually wear it on her wedding i'm a bit female you should ask her i should i should because i really want to be invited to that wedding oh my god wow that's risky but i well yeah roman empire because she's like you got to think about these things and she she was thinking about her engagement now as well because girl math she paid for it years ago so it's free one girl said the titanic she was like i think of it all the time and i thought do you know what again women there's a
Starting point is 00:19:49 love story there we love love you know i love love there's a love and there's a tragedy with the titanic you know jack and rose and we're thinking oh what was lost do you know what my roman empire is i think i think about all the time jewelry oh okay i think about like i think about what other rings i'd like if i see something in a specific color i'm like that could be a nice like jewelry like when i see people wearing like ruby things or emerald things i think oh i wonder what that would look nice on me oh like i'm constantly if i see someone's got a nice pair of earrings i thought god i should get a nice pair of earrings, I thought, God, I should get a nice pair of earrings. Maybe I should get something pierced here. Should I get my nose pierced here again?
Starting point is 00:20:27 Like I always am thinking about jewelry and how to accessorize myself. Yeah, that's fair. But the actual concept of having your own Roman Empire, not like the actual Roman Empire, not the definition. But what I'm saying, something, a subject you think about every single day every now that shit scares me 365 days and it crosses your mind every day every single day i was actually sat here today like what what do i think about every day every single like if you have to now just say one thing coffee every coffee like i will i'll wake up and be like where shall i go get my coffee i want my coffee interesting then i'll be in class thinking
Starting point is 00:21:12 shall i go to gail's on my lunch yeah probably actually recently my roman empire has been a gail's honey cake i can't i can't i can't stop thinking about them like sometimes I'll go in okay not get a coffee I'll just get a honey cake the past the past three days I've had honey cakes with my lunch they're so fucking yummy I feel like maybe my eyelashes are my roman empire oh my eyelashes I think of my eyelashes all the fucking time yeah eyelash serum eyelash like mascara yeah curling my eyelash oh my god eyelash curlers eyelash curlers all the time i'm like where are my eyelash curlers i've got to have my eyelash eyelashes are my roman empire boom boom i can conquer with these fucking stems yeah i can you
Starting point is 00:21:56 can you can you can yeah you can guys this is what i'm wanting to know though seriously like i want you to write in what is your roman empire and don't be embarrassed you know there's no judgment katie's got the honey cake and i've got me eyelashes what do you think about every single day of your life truly and you can't be like actually no i'm not gonna limit you here you tell me everything you want tell tell us all guys it's october i'm actually really excited that it's october i love halloween love it love it love it i love halloween it's so exciting the problem is i love halloween for the wrong reasons why because i love halloween because then it means christmas go math yeah halloween halloween finishes I wake up 1st of November, like fucking get in, Michael Bublé. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Yeah. So we're talking about Halloween, which means what you're wearing for Halloween. We've had discussions. We started talking about this in like August. Oh, we did. We absolutely did. Barbie.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Barbie. Hey, Barbie. Hey, Barbie. And I feel like I'm not going to be the only one that's going to be Barbie this year. Truly. But that makes me almost not want to do it. I know.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Because we had a great idea. We had. We were going to go as the bunnies. Yeah. You would go as Reese Witherspoon bunny and the ugly blonde pink bunny. And I would go as Bridget Jones bunny. Black bunny. Pink and black bunny.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Renee. Renee Zellweger. Z renee renee zellweger zellweger zellweger so you'd be renee and i'd be reese reese reese and renee reese and renee and we'd go as the two different kinds of bunnies because we always joke that i'm like bridget jones and then we always joke that kit's like l words see i think this would be perfect so i think that's such a good idea for this year that's definitely on because then that's on the cards barbie as well they're gonna rack up those barbie costume prices they are there's something quite exciting about getting dressed up as barbie and then walking down the streets going to clubs and go hi barbie the only thing i'm quite excited about the only thing that's your roman empire the only thing that scares me about the barbie no about the bunnies is that like
Starting point is 00:24:06 ass is out like your booty's out booty and we're gonna go clubbing like i don't know how comfortable i'll be going i've got a few weeks got yeah i've got a few weeks we're fine going clubbing in with my booty out i know what you mean boobs up fine booty out i'm like why am i in the leotard in a club yeah like am i performing why am i in a leotard in a club yeah like am i performing why am i in a leotard and tights and heels in a club oh fucking heels that's what scares me so guys everyone's thinking about their halloween costume like honestly do not deny that you're not because i know you are you are everyone's planned it everyone's looked on pinterest and if you haven't look if you haven't thought about it now you haven't thought about it now, you'll be thinking now.
Starting point is 00:24:45 You'll know. You'll know. You'll be writing into the debrief saying this is what I'm doing. Actually, can you give us really good ideas? Give us good ideas. Let us know what you guys are thinking of wearing. We could all dress up as the same thing.
Starting point is 00:24:57 We could. We could go as the debrief. Katie, what would you actually do if we were out on a night out and someone said, I came as you, like on the debrief. I would fucking scream. I know that that would be the best night of my life.
Starting point is 00:25:09 If someone came up in Ugg Sliders moosey pajamas and an oversized jumper. Someone's got like toilet roll rupture on their hand and someone else has painted their face red. And they're like, well, you! I'd be like, fuck off, you cheeky bitch. We're going to talk about what we went as for halloween when we were kids oh my god because we have got the some of the fucking funniest stories yeah i've got especially two outfits that i know will just absolutely crack you my first one was we were living next to some americans when we were younger and obviously they take halloween very very seriously you know
Starting point is 00:25:43 halloween they're like this is fucking great yeah anyway um i'm literally like thinking what i'll do i'm like am i a ghost am i a ghoul am i a cheeky little witch you know because when you're that age you're not thinking about being a slag no you're thinking about what's clever what's what's clever what is gonna make me stand out my friend says kitty I'm gonna organize the costumes so I'm like okay I'm like that sounds he fine cuz they gave full out I'm like really excited yeah this is really exciting I'm like I'm gonna be a wizard Harry I'm like anyway she comes over to my house and she's like I got it
Starting point is 00:26:23 for you and my mom's like oh, it's so sad for the girls. Like, try it on. Yeah. When I tell you, she's got me a giraffe onesie. She has put me in a giraffe onesie. And it's not just a giraffe onesie. I have a giraffe head on top of my head. Does it go over your...
Starting point is 00:26:43 Oh, over the head, like a hood. But it's a full head oh my god a full giraffe head wow my head and then i've got like giraffe claws oh whatever they have feet or whatever yeah trotters and then i've got like a full giraffe gear she got me giraffe shoes she's like we're not taking the piss she was an elephant she had a full fucking elephant over her head and and anyway i kind of said to mom i was like you know it's this scary and she was like my mother tried her fucking best not to die me coming out with me little pot belly i was like eight years old i got this fucking giraffe head over me and i'm just like trick or treat and i remember we like went up the street got to this
Starting point is 00:27:27 old lady's house and she'd always do like a competition of who's like the scariest and stuff she opens the door she's like fuck off i remember bursting into tears because i was a snitch and i literally ran to my mom i said mom mom, Mum, she said the F word. Oh, you should have seen my mum. She thought, not on fucking Halloween, you know. Not on Halloween. Not to my giraffe. Not to my little giraffe. She's fucking spotted up for you.
Starting point is 00:27:54 You know, I even researched what noises giraffes make. Guess, Katie. What do you think they make? Yeah, bang on that one. Yeah, I knew it, I knew it, I knew it. That's exactly, that's exactly tutti. Right, tell me what you dressed up as. So, you know what?
Starting point is 00:28:05 This has actually sparked a memory. I'm now going to give myself two stories. One Halloween. Yeah. This is Halloween. This kind of ties into the second story. Get out your violins. Get out your tissues.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Oh no. I never went trick or treating often. What? I think I went trick or treating like twice in my life. What? Why? Sugar. We're not good with sugar no i was good with sugar allowed um so peach i'm sorry i know so i never really went trick-or-treating i'll take you this year oh please do yeah no i'll be so good me is the bunny oh my trick-or-treat a lot of people will be like strep yeah yeah you will break
Starting point is 00:28:46 many marriages honestly so but we used to get loads of trick-or-treaters um when my parents moved to york okay and i'll never forget this one this one year someone i was on like door duty yeah okay someone rang the bell like i open i'm like happy halloween you know how exciting this girl was dressed as a pig but her outfit was inflatable oh no way you know the kind of ones you put on with like a hairdryer i know exactly what you mean like oh my god happy halloween and it was like this inflatable pig she was fucking huge like this honestly it was it was so it's so big so she's wandering out like kids like whoa like getting hit by a costume like honestly it was so big and she was like oh she was living up best life she
Starting point is 00:29:38 must have been one of my friends i nearly got yeah fucking animal farm from the farm yeah i honestly gave gave her like the majority of this i was like your outfit is fucking brilliant i was like wow i was honestly pissing myself i was like guys this pig costume and the best thing is is like we live on like um like a green so you can see them like wandering around the green and i could see i could see the pig the little piggy piggy piggy comes wandering around like waddling away honestly she was loving her like loving her life that night honestly it was adorable
Starting point is 00:30:06 I bet that gave you inspiration for this year oh yeah yeah yeah no it was ordered yeah yeah it's arrived got on your hair
Starting point is 00:30:12 I wear it every evening yeah brilliant that's your roman empire it's my roman empire little piggy yeah um okay so my next one school disco
Starting point is 00:30:21 okay there was a school disco for the halloween and I'm thinking right right right right discos were intense discos were fucking intense now there's a boy there that i fancied okay obviously my room in empire sex on the mind yeah yeah yeah yeah so i was like who can i fucking flirt with yeah i really fancied this guy in primary school like really really fancied him really fancied the pants of this man did
Starting point is 00:30:45 he have like the justin bieber swoop because oh yeah absolutely yeah yeah yeah so anyway i'm talking to mother dearest like watch the girls watch the girls and you know halloween bat led it's not about it's not about being a slag it's about being clever yes it's about someone saying who looks the best now i'm not saying you got the biggest tatters and you got your cheekies out i'm saying who's clever who who's reading at the moment who who's reading at the moment goes your favorite book character voldemort you know who has got the prosthetics who yeah let's put that much effort in okay so i went fucking full out i say to mom because i'm fucking unique i'm not like other girls i want to go as an alien. When I tell you I slicked back my fucking hair looking bold
Starting point is 00:31:29 with a green face, I... Boom. Green face. Never seen a sexier fucking alien in your life. And I'm thinking, he is going to love me. He's going to love me. He's going to fall in love. Oh, God. I remember just getting into that hall,
Starting point is 00:31:43 walking around, looking at him, and he saw me and I thought, yes and i didn't i didn't even linger i didn't leave linger i kind of went around said hello to people i didn't even know because i thought he'll know he'll know i was like he'll know it's me he'll know i literally looked like a cray mag okay tell me your other hallow. So my other Halloween story. So as I said, I didn't really go trick-or-treating often. Oh, God, I'm really sad for you. But the reason was because I loved staying in to watch the Strictly Halloween special.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Like a fucking loser. So my mum would decorate the house with all Halloween-y stuff, with carved pumpkins. And then on the evening evening we'd sit and watch straight claim oh that's not i was in a like really small village okay that had this baptist church yeah big church hall and the people that own the church every year would host not a halloween party because that's sinful sinful um but it would be like the light party and everyone would come in dressed up with in halloween gear and stuff like party it was like the baptist church you're going to the light party this year okay so the one year but you could go in like you're scary yeah you could go in you're scary no one was a fucking alien because no one
Starting point is 00:33:02 was as clever as i was no i never saw no one forward thinking never saw an alien on halloween so i remember never saw an alien no never ever i remember so my mom was like oh well why don't we go trick-or-treating this year we were like yeah that'll be great so me and my sister get dressed up yeah we were witches oh i had a cute little outfit on we go around no one answered their doors oh my god you're joking i think i got one celebration sized snicker oh my god it genuinely everyone was at the fucking light party everyone was at the light party or had their like their porch lights were off no pumpkins outside and i genuinely i remember my mum was like i'm so sorry girls and i'm like did you cry no we were
Starting point is 00:33:52 just like where is everyone at the light this is what i'm saying katie this year debriefers put your porch lights on get your best pumpkins out and get a bowl of sweets because i'm taking katie around on her first ever trick or treat we're going trick or treat i'm gonna have to do the classic mum hold you by the wrist yeah you know i get a bit i remember being quite nervous yeah bring you down the street i'm gonna encourage you to go people's porches say go on go on you go on smile and i'm gonna get you on each of the porches and you're gonna have a good halloween someone actually so send us your addresses yeah yeah someone egged our house once our house got egged on halloween i never went trick-or-treating we got egged
Starting point is 00:34:39 our house got i'm so sorry i don't know what we did to our village that's really difficult they had a vendetta trick or treat treat treat do you know what I love though when I take you around you better be careful because there are some
Starting point is 00:34:53 fucking sly pricks out there yeah that you go around you got your fucking pumpkin trick or treat and they'd go trick
Starting point is 00:35:00 and I felt fucking whack ya I was like I'll honestly take you out with one punch you know I'm here for the sweets honestly take you out with one punch. You know I'm here for the sweets. What are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:35:08 You know I'm here for the sweets. What trick would you do? Trick. I'm going to batter ya. Yeah, that's just putting your kids on the spot, isn't it? And then you start to shit yourself. You start to get really anxious and you think, I've got no jokes. I'm so humorless. Yeah. I'm bored.
Starting point is 00:35:21 I'm bored. Ix. Ix. Ix! yeah i'm bored say x like an ick ick oh okay let me try to ick oh yeah yeah that was good that was good that was i've only got one i've only got one okay go on you go Okay. Go on. You go. Ping pong me, ping pong me. Okay. So last night I went out and I'm so sorry. I'm going to snort your hair. Archie's sister. Okay. So we all went out together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Anyway, we all slaughtered. It's not just her. We all hammered. We've been drinking since one. It was about 11 in the evening. We were so, because we had a boozy brunch. 11 in the PM. PM. So we were absolutely slaughtered anyway. But I was still kind in the evening. We were so, because we had a boozy brunch. 11 in the PM. PM.
Starting point is 00:36:05 So we were absolutely slaughtered anyway. But I was still kind of with it. We were walking through this bar because we had to move tables because we set ourselves at an eating bar. We had to go sit where you could only have drinks.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Anyway, she's like, fuck this. So she's like, well, I'm going to take the candle. And I'm like, oh,
Starting point is 00:36:23 you showed them. She's like, oh, just for a bit of ambience and i'm like oh you showed them yeah she's like oh just for a bit of ambience i'm like okay anyway so she walks down like these tables with the candle and then there are a few there are a few steps to like where you can sit she walks and when i tell you she stacked it she misses these she she misses these steps because she's so drunk. She's just looking forward. She flew. She was Amelia Earhart. Eddie the Eagle.
Starting point is 00:36:49 She flew through the air. And when I say she landed, face on the floor, flat like a gingerbread facing down. But she had her arm in the air holding the candle. Now, I was the worst friend. I was laughing so hard I couldn't even help her so i start laughing and i'm like genuinely crying i'm like pissing myself looking around not everyone looks around at her and when i see every single person at the table has a look and it's like there was a moment of silence and at that point i got the egg there's nothing because when everyone
Starting point is 00:37:26 laughs i'm like yeah bam there was a moment of like is she her it's like what's going on i'm like no guys laugh laugh she's fine she's she'll be fine she's literally like drained of blood but she's fine she'll be so fine it's when people she's actually dead but like guys laugh because it's awkward it's when people go oh saying that saying that so good this week i did that exact thing and icked myself out can i quickly just say guys that she is okay so i'm not she's all right but it was fucking hilarious yeah it was so funny right go on peach i this actually isn't my ick but i might as well make it my ick oh go on then i was i was having a wee yeah and i i opened the bathroom store and someone was waiting to go in and they seemed like
Starting point is 00:38:06 in quite a rush okay um i thought i forgot something so i turned back around as i turned back around i whip the door of the toilet and it goes straight onto my head like straight straight onto my forehead and i'm like ow i was like ow ow that really fucking hurt but what it myself out was the fact that this girl saw all this and then was like oh my god are you oh my god are you all right that looked awfully you okay and i'm like stop talking i'm like yeah i'm fine i'm fine i'm literally fine i'm fine there's nothing so awkward it's so when you injure yourself and people are concerned i'm like step away step Step away, because it's embarrassing enough that you saw that. It's when people fall down the stairs, fall up the stairs,
Starting point is 00:38:49 and people see, and they're like, are you all right? And I'm like, shh. You didn't say anything. I meant to do it. I'm like... My ick actually was people who ask questions that they could have avoided asking if they were listening oh like loads of people who aren't like where i'm like okay i've got an appointment at 11
Starting point is 00:39:13 i've got an appointment at 11 start talking i'm gonna have that appointment soon when 11 oh it's so irritating i just honestly i actually think it's a lack of respect as well it's like you're just not listening at all. Like, come on. Question! Yeah. Okay, so this week you're serious, so take it away. I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:39:35 So mine is, could you ever be with someone who never wanted to celebrate a holiday? Christmas, there are no trees. Halloween, there are no pumpkins Valentine's Day no heart shaped sweets no Easter bunny oh my god nothing not even for our kids if Arch turned around and he was like actually I think it's just in my life I want to stop all the shenanigans and I want to just never celebrate a holiday what what would you do well i've actually had a personal experience with this actually it's not personal i just know someone who's got through this it's not personal at all but i know someone whose boyfriend did not want to celebrate valentine's
Starting point is 00:40:16 at all was that we're not selling reminds what for me that's the end take your roman empire elsewhere yeah because this fucking amblin ain't staying round no right yeah right yeah yeah so and i found that really hard because archie is the best like yeah he goes full out like with valentine's and i actually think we both are so good with celebrations for each other even christmas though like we've spoiled each other archie churns gluten-free gingerbread out like every evening for you and it never gets to you because i eat most of it never actually tried it guys yeah um no but it's really really sweet he's just so good to me yeah um that i remember saying to my friend what the fuck fuck? Like personally, what the fuck? Look, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I'm saying, because they didn't celebrate Valentine's. Look, we do like to... Celebrate. We do. When we say we celebrate, we celebrate. You like to celebrate.
Starting point is 00:41:15 We take every word in that, every letter in that word we enjoy. You'd celebrate. Whereas some people, Valentine's, just do a card. And I think that's lovely. That's fine. My parents always say like, you know, we're not faffing around with all this. Let's just do a card and i think that's lovely that's fine like my parents always say like you know we're not faffing around with all this let's just do a
Starting point is 00:41:28 lovely card and that's fine or flowers whatever get a card get a fucking card acknowledge the day get a card i'm not being funny even a text and that infuriated me so katie if a guy i was with i was saying did not want to celebrate even my birthday he's not celebrating my birthday no no no you're off you're off you're off okay silly question okay so we had something previously happened to us as a friendship group recently okay um we were all joking around you know katie and i a bit of wackadoodles and um we put the question out there to Katie and our flatmate. And I said, I think one of us said, I can't remember. No, no.
Starting point is 00:42:11 You might have said, I can't remember. One of us asked our flatmate, what would you do if you woke up? Oh. And you found out that you got a Mohican. And he's like, right. Oh, for fuck's sake. Not this. And he's like, how the fuck would I get a Mohican? And Katie's like, oh, fuck's sake not this and he's like how the fuck would i get a mohican and katie's like oh katie you asked a question sorry you asked good
Starting point is 00:42:29 didn't you no was it me it was you oh sorry okay it was yeah and i said what would you do if you found out that in the middle of the night katie'd come into your room and shaved a mohican you know in your gorgeous luscious hair and he kicked off he was like well i would he would say i would absolutely what i'm telling you right now he said i i'd move out then he corrected himself and said actually fuck that i wouldn't move out with the fucking housing crisis in london you'd move out he said i'd force you to move out to katie force me now katie is astounded i am gobsmacked. She's like, what the fuck? Even though this is all hypothetical,
Starting point is 00:43:08 the fact that you would boot me out onto the street. You'd be out. Because context. You'd be out. If I was shaving a Mohican into our flatmate's head, I clearly would not be with it. No. You've had a moment.
Starting point is 00:43:24 I would have had a few fucking drinkies. Yeah, bad week. And I would have been like, this will be hilarious. Granted, is a Mohican hilarious to someone who is trying to currently grow out their hair? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Yeah. Is it a shitty thing? Yeah. But the fact you would render me as good as homeless... What do you think is the appropriate punishment for shaving a mohican
Starting point is 00:43:47 into your friend's head when they have no idea you're doing it what is the appropriate punishment so if i woke up my head was shaved with a mohican yeah i would first be upset i'd be like what the fuck i would then go to the hairdressers and get them to just shave my head yeah get it all off because a mohican would be fucking silly yeah on me yeah don't think it would suit my head shape some people rock it but i probably i'm not sure the peach would i'm not sure the peach would i probably shave my head okay then i would want to have a chat yeah i'd be like what's going on here okay what the fuck this is very rational peach okay if you came to me and were like,
Starting point is 00:44:26 I'm genuinely so sorry. No, I'm not sorry. Not sorry at all. Not sorry at all. No, you're not sorry. What's the punishment? If you weren't sorry at all, I'd move out.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Yeah. I'd go. Wow. I would at least probably be like, do you know what? I'm going to go home. No, but what do you think is the punishment
Starting point is 00:44:41 for the person who's done it? Because my... I'd shave yours. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. That's exactly what the person who's done it? Cause my- I shave yours. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. That's exactly what I thought. Tip for tat.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Oh my God. If you cheeky little fucking snookiny into my room. If you made a mohawk on my, actually I'm a deep sleeper so I could, I wouldn't even notice. Mohican in my hair. You know how much hair care means to me. I'd be like, but then i'd be like but
Starting point is 00:45:07 i feel like you're kind of for life so i'd be livid at you but i'd be like look give yourself a mohican okay and we're even then then we can do it together no do you know what i'd make you do do you know what i'd make you do yeah i would make you shave a mohican yeah you'd have to wear it for a week yeah you'd have to wear the mohican for a week right you can't style it out like literally have to wear it as a mohican even on the pod yeah even on the pod and then you'd have to get a tattoo on your ass that says i'm sorry and then and then then it'd be even stevens okay cool love it yeah okay so to our housemate remember that she's not moving out okay not moving you have to get a tattoo and a make-up okay that is honestly the stupid i'd make her move
Starting point is 00:45:54 out i know how traumatic is that right guys it's that time bon voyage i hate to say goodbye sweet yum yum yum yum yum Yum, yum, yum. Goodbye, darlings. Goodbye. We love you lots. We love you. Embrace the Monday. Think of your Roman Empire.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Have a brilliant week. Please can you tell us, because I'd love to know. Yeah. Remember mantras. You believe in yourself, and you can do it. Yeah, you can do it. Yeah, you absolutely can. Now, this has been Kitty McNeil.
Starting point is 00:46:21 And this has been Katie Leach. From The Debrief Podcast. Have a good week, guys. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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