The Debrief - Festive Party Fiasco's | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

Welcome back to The Debrief! This week we are talking all things christmas parties gone WRONG....As always email hello@thedebriefpodcast.co.uk with any debriefs or dilemmas or DM us on instagram @the....debriefpodcastHave an amazing week! Lots of love,K+K xx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul Welcome to the deep break With your co-host Katie Leach Are you? Are you? A-you? Christmas
Starting point is 00:00:20 The snow's going down Have you seen all the rumours that it's going to be snowing? I've been spreading them. And I'm like, without being. cringe like Laura and I'm like, I smell stuff. I've literally been like spreading that rumour like wildfire.
Starting point is 00:00:34 I saw it on BBC weather the other day and I went, everyone's coming in sweat like God, it's car, I said to you it's going to snow next week. To be fair though, it was literally like Monday. Went out Monday. Sunday was fine. Saturday was fine. Yeah. I did a half marathon Saturday.
Starting point is 00:00:48 It was fine. Oh yeah. Yeah. Just drop it and just drop it and just drop in. Big Chief. Fine. Sunday, fine. Monday, it's like someone, it's like Mother Nature got the dial.
Starting point is 00:01:00 and went, it went all the way down because I went out. You know when you have to catch your breath because you're so cold? I was like, my nose was dripping. Oh, that's the worst. My nose, my ears and my hands, like the little ends of my body get really fucking cold. It was not good. I literally, I left yesterday and I felt the cold and went, today you should see me, you should have seen me.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I had my gloves on. I put my trackies on over my workout leggings. How about your PJ? PJs on? No PJs. No PJs. Not a month. I literally was like, it is, it's go time.
Starting point is 00:01:36 And I was on it. But it was minus one when I left this morning. I was talked up in me beds. It was just not on. Not on at all. This is where it's really good in the flat that we're renting at the moment. Yeah, this flat favourite so far. Love this flat.
Starting point is 00:01:54 We each have carpet in our room. Yeah. Whereas when we were in Fullum, You didn't have carpet in your room. It was freezing. I did, but I think I was the only one. I was convinced there was a hole in my walk because I could feel the wind.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I could feel a draft. It was so bad. It was so so bad. But we have this weird thing. I honestly think we have a ghost. It's like freezing in the evening. And then it's like we go to bed and it's fucking boiling. It's like the radio's like now.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Now's the time. Now. Crank her up? Crank up. Because sometimes I've woken up like whipped off my top. I'm like, it's so odd. It's so, like, it's so unbelievable. But I think it's because our radiators don't work in this living room because I think.
Starting point is 00:02:35 That one doesn't and it's such a shen because it's so big. It would fill up this room because this is, this is cold. Yeah. Because this room is like right on the outside, all walls, about three quarters of it is the outside wall. And there's no, the heating here just doesn't work. No. And we're on the ground floor. So we don't have any like heat rises.
Starting point is 00:02:58 No, no, no, we're shivering. It's like my sister's a room at home. She's the attic room. Oh. In the winter, freezing. In the summer, boiling. No, there's no rest. I'm like, no rest for Lily.
Starting point is 00:03:09 No rest. I'm like, this is insufferable. Right, should we crack on? Let's crack on. What's your munch for this week? My match for this week is relax, remain calm. R&R. R and R.N.R.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Relax. I'm going to have a bite of mince of pie. Oh, my God. I should have got a little snack room. I feel like. I'm just like, chill. Mm-hmm. Literally chill.
Starting point is 00:03:31 It's so fine. Yeah. It's, why are you stressed? Why are you stressed? There's no reason to be stressed. Relax. Just stay calm. I love that.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Stay present. Stay calm. Life is fantastic. Aren't we blessed to be stressed? Aren't we blessed to be stressed? Literally. Love it. Love it so much.
Starting point is 00:03:48 What's your mantra? My mantra for this week is don't wish the seasons away. Yeah, that's true. And I mean this wholeheartedly. I'm a summer girl, summer babies. Oh, I love the summer. son love everything yeah but I also yeah and the fact recording ahead of time my love list the fact of December's coming oh I'm like so I think I'm the most excited for Christmas I happen in
Starting point is 00:04:13 years like so many I feel like a child again also for Christmas it's just going to be the four of us is in my family and then arch so it's going to be the five of us which will be so special the four of us is quite normal that's what we do every year but the last maybe like like four, five years. We've had like cousins, which we never really do. So the fact it'll just be the four of us five. It's so nice. And I just, I can't stop like smiling when I see Twinkly lights when I see, have you seen anyone's Christmas tree up yet? Yeah, I have. In a home? In a, in a home, it's near my work. I can see it through the window. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:04:50 yeah. What did I tell you? My mom shut herself. So Archie said something to her like, God, it's like a month away till Christmas and she went fries. We need to get the decorations. No, it wasn't a month of Christmas. It was a month to the sororay. Oh, oh. It's a month. It's a month.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Frise. Panic. Panic. The baubles down. Then she sent me a photo the other day of all the decorations. Honestly, from your seat back here. Floor to ceiling of it all. And she was like, it's that time of year again.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Oh, with a snowflake and a Christmas to you emoji. Oh, of course. Of course. She loves an emoji. I'm going home after I see my friend this weekend. Yeah. And I know. I was like, we're so nice to see Mummy and Daddy.
Starting point is 00:05:30 It's like, Mom was like, it'll be so good kitty, but just letting you know, let me know the plans, what time to pick you up and what time to drop you back off to the station because she was like, I need to lock in for the decorating. I mean, yeah. I was like, I'm so sorry, but I mean, of course he does. She always makes it a winter wonderland in that place,
Starting point is 00:05:46 yeah, big time. My song for this week is, should never be underestimated, okay? Oh. I saw Mommy kissing there to close. Yeah. Underneath the mistletoe and that So good Jackson 5
Starting point is 00:06:04 I saw Mummy kissing Santa Claus What would you do What would you do if you were tucked up in bed You hear rustling You're a nosy Nora And you're thinking Santa's here You go down and you see Jane Kissing Santa
Starting point is 00:06:17 Or it'll be on sight It'll be beefed I'd be like Santa Oh you'd beef Santa Yeah I'd be like Santa what are you doing Would you? What are you doing Santa? You'd beef Santa
Starting point is 00:06:27 Leave the presents Yeah, yeah, and be on your merry way. Enough of that. None of that round here. Yeah. See, I think if I saw mum in kissing Santa, I'd be like, she's doing it for the greater good, what she asked for.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Yeah. I think mum would have asked for something. She's trying to squeeze an extra present out, yeah. Absolutely, absolutely. I think mum would have asked for that holiday home in Greece. So I'd be like, she's doing her due diligence. Yeah, exactly. She's, you know, making up for her.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Exactly. I'm like, look, not again. Dad is upstairs. Although, if Dad could get a free house in Greece, He'd be like, do more. Do it, do it. Don't be frigid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Exactly. What's your song for this week? My song this week is, Oh, I do you build me up. I build me up. Baby, just to let me down. I'll miss me around and then worst of all. You never go, baby,
Starting point is 00:07:20 when you say you will, say you will. Because I love you still. I need you. I need you. More than never. You are not. What a song. Build me up buttercup.
Starting point is 00:07:30 What a song? Why that's a song? It came on shuffle at the perfect time. I was walking on my break. Sun was shining. Although the weather's been cold, the sun's been out, which I love a crisp, sunny day.
Starting point is 00:07:43 And yesterday, not a cloud in the sky. It was beautifully sunny. Completely blue. I was walking and it came on shuffle and I went, oh, it was just perfect. It was absolutely cinema. It literally was like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:07:55 I could have been skipping down the street. I was like, oh, wow, life's good. I was like, brilliant. On my way to get me, Brie and Cranberry sandwich. Oh, yeah, it's time. I love Bray. I love a brie and cranberry. Bree, 10-10.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Do you have a cranberry sauce? Because I'd never chuck a cranberry sauce in my roast, I'd be like feral. But the brie and cranberry sandwiches, I have to just deal with it. And it's usually not a lot of cranberry. Really? Yeah. So I'll deal with that. Because there's so many things that I haven't tried since I first tried it when I was a child.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Yeah. And then I'm like, sure. I like this, like something the other, something that I will stand by, I will never, ever, ever like blue cheese. No, no, no. But I was like, I didn't like this. Then I had it somewhere. I was like, this is good shit.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Hold on a damn second. This is good shit. I have that recent, maybe our taste pallets are revolving where I was like, red wine. Red wine. Went out for mummy's B-day dinner. We have to go to that restaurant. Oh, is it nice. Greek food, gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Oh, I love that. Mom and dad orders a bottle of red. Lillian Arch orders a bottle of white. They were like, try, the white was revolting to me. The red, gimme, gimme, gimme. You like the red? Gimmie, gimme, gut health. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Okay. It was lovely. Love that. Lovely. Oh, my God. I know. Should we wreckers? Yep.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Recker, recommendation. Guys, tell me. For good. Wicked. Wicked. Wicked. I think I've said this before, but I can't remember what happens. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I'm sad we can't see it together. I know. I am sad we can't see it together. But any questions I have will ask? Yes, of course. And it's a shame because I'm going with a friend who won't, will be as clueless as each other. I'm going with a friend who will know more than I do. And I feel like I already know a lot.
Starting point is 00:09:49 So I'm going with a super fan. Superfan. And I think I'm going to need to be like wheeled out. We're going with the complete opposite of people. I'm a complete spectrum of obscenby. We really are. But then we'll have to... I'll be back on Tuesday to do the pod again.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Yep. And then we can reconven and tell each other what we think about it. Big time. Sound good? Oh, sounds great. Shall we debrief? Yes. So let's de-brave. So this week we are discussing all things Christmas parties.
Starting point is 00:10:21 So it is the most wonderful time of year. But it's the time of year where people let look. Maybe too loose. So a recent research shows that one in ten British people find themselves receiving disciplinary action after office Christmas parties. One in ten. One in ten, which is crazy. And it's mainly as a result of violence or inappropriate behaviour. Oh, bad.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Bad vibes. So we've had our fair share of feral Christmas parties. Absolutely. If you don't know, if you're not an avid listener, you won't know. we host Christmas party every year, just not this year. R-I-P. Don't, I'll cry. I'll still die on the hill that we should have done that instead of New Year's.
Starting point is 00:11:03 I completely agree. We need to do something to make up for a, maybe like... I'm thinking decorate. Yeah. I'm thinking like big decorations. Yeah. And like we all have scheduled fun with each other. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And we have to decorate. Absolutely. And I still stand by that text. I sent you the other day that I think we should go to the Cotswolds for your birthday. Oh my God, I would love that. I think we should get a little cottage. And also I'll be. 25 so I can rent a car.
Starting point is 00:11:29 You can finally get in the car with me. Of course. Behind the wheel. Go to a little cottage in the Cotswolds. That would be so nice. Oh my God, I would love that. And if we book it.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And also, I was already looking into them for you and I. They're not expensive. Should be great. They're not too bad. Probably. But I'm going to toot too in my little car.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Oh, I'd love to be passionate passenger princess. Yeah, I love to drive. Although it depends on a lot. I'm literally begging to get put on the insurance when I go home for Christmas because I'm like, I need to drive. You need to have you. I haven't driven in like two years. You don't want to get scared.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I don't want to get scared. I just want to be familiar. That's what I say to Arch. I'm like, you can't get scared of the wheel. You never be scared of the wheel. Can't get scared of it. Never ever. But do you have a favourite feral Christmas party experience?
Starting point is 00:12:14 My probably worst, the worst I've ever got was classic. Parente-Soirie. My mum and dad are absolutely I. Every year. Sometimes I feel like they should have their own show. They should. I think they should. And I think there would be a really clear divide of violin fans and Fraser fans.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Oh, big time, big time. They are completely opposite. It's so fun. But you'll love them both. So they've hosted a Christmas party every single year for as long as at least we've been in the house we've been in. So six, seven years. I now can't remember Christmas without that. I'm in a show.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I'm about to be in a show at the moment. and there was a possibility I wouldn't be able to make it and I literally thought I was going to cry and then they cancelled one of the show nights on that night. I do. Yes. I'm like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:13:04 The worst probably was about two years ago where I got so fucked I didn't speak to anyone because I got to the amount of fuck that I just got out of the hot tub. Everyone was like, where are you going? I was silent. I couldn't even talk.
Starting point is 00:13:16 I just felt vomit in my mouth. Walked upstairs dripping from head to toe from the hot tub. Still in my like swimming cosy. Vomited everywhere. No. just took my swimming cozy off, didn't even shower, got into bed, like, sopping and then was so, so massively hung over. I know I've said it before, it's the hot tub that fucks you.
Starting point is 00:13:36 It is. It is the hot tub that fucks you. It dehydrates you. Went into bed. I didn't say goodbye to any of my guests. You included. Be chatch, come up, be like, goodbye, my darling's sweetheart. I feel better.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Was I awake when you said goodbye? Brought me breakfast in bed. Brought me breakfast in bed at my own house. I'm their own house. I was like, do you want a tray? You're like... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I love when mum does that. Anytime I'm home, and I'm well, or I've gone home and like, when I have like tonsils out, like operations, mum has a quacky tray.
Starting point is 00:14:08 You know how my parents can be quacking? There's a tray with ducks on. Oh, like bring it in, mum. And it's got a beanbag bottom. So it just...
Starting point is 00:14:16 Oh, it sits nicely. Yeah. Oh, it sits on whatever surface it needs to. Oh, my God. But that was my worst by far. I honestly, I genuinely wouldn't say I'm a hangover person. I couldn't open my eyes properly for at least two days.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Like, I was so dehydrated. I just constantly had to like hold my head. Oh, first. I do remember though, because Kit's a bit of a big chief. Big chief. I think that is the only time I've seen you hung over. Like, which is, it's like night and day with us because I literally, you do hangovers.
Starting point is 00:14:49 If you ever a little bit hungover, you're actually like not bad at all. Yeah, it'll be all right. I'll crack on. No, you'll crack on. Like, you're literally like, kind of... And I stand by, it's because I vomit. Yeah. But then again, I vomit.
Starting point is 00:15:00 And I always feel worse. Do you vomit in the evening, though, or the morning? Because I vomit straight in the evening. Straight away. Like, if I'm out, I'm out. And I'm like, oh, I feel sick. I feel sick. I'll feel sick. I'll feel sick.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I vomit. And then go to bed and I'll be like, oh, I'm fine. No, because I find it sets off a bit of a chain reaction. Oh, no. If I'm going once, I'm going like, ten times. Wow. Until I can go no more. It just sets, I'll make myself sick once and it's like, oh, no, okay, take cover.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Keep going. Like, it's bad. So when I saw you hung over, I was like, dear Lord, what's happening? Because I was like, I was hung over, but I wasn't sick and I actually felt semi-okay. And I was like, I don't understand what's going on right now that like kits hung over and I'm not. I made up for it the following year, though. That I did. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:46 The most of have seen my parents, especially my mum. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. We went to a friend's house. This is when we still lived in Harrogate. Yeah. We went to a friend's house for a Christmas party. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:58 And it was on Christmas Eve, which was quite rogue for the McNeils. Yeah. Because we're very sacred with our Christmas Eve. Yeah. So that's why Mother Deeris never hosts the Swarrow on Christmas Eve. No, no. We have our traditions.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Everyone get out. Oh, yeah. But one year we went to someone else's and it was literally down the road. My mum and dad's really close friends, my really close friends from school. So it was great. But I remember getting back and I still believed in Santa
Starting point is 00:16:24 I saw shit myself thinking that no present to get home. Yeah. I was like, you're going to fuck it. So I'm like hurrying them along like Santa needs to come. And we were walking up the road. It was like a 20 minute walk.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Oh my God. My mum couldn't walk up the road. She was like saying my dad had to like piggyback her. And my dad will get tipsy but I've never seen my dad drunk. I don't think I've ever seen your dad drunk. No, I've never seen my dad drunk.
Starting point is 00:16:50 He's so stoic. Yeah, he is. He'll get, like, tips him silly. Yeah. But he's never like, I need to go to bad. He's like, he's always like, Eileen, come on. But he was like carrying mum up. I know I was like, how she died.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And Lily was like telling me, there's a thing called alcohol. And I was like, oh, I was like, oh, thanks, oh, thanks. Anyway, it's honestly dreadful. I think my worst Christmas. What's the worst? Worst Christmas party experience. I do distinctly remember I had really bad anxiety from this was, my work Christmas do
Starting point is 00:17:23 when I worked at Sweaty We went to an escape room Oh yes and you Absolutely I sent it It was so bad Something like Sangria or something Oh I was having these
Starting point is 00:17:35 We went to boom battle bar In Tottenham Court Road There's one in Wonsworth It's actually like really It's like arcade games bowling Oh fun okay They do like axe throwing But they also do escape rooms
Starting point is 00:17:47 In the bigger ones Fun So we put this escape room I don't know whether I just felt socially awkward so wanted to just keep drinking but we got there early and then they were like look it's going to be like 10 minutes not 10 minutes it was longer before your escape room's ready so oh let's just get some drinks in oh god oh god oh god I had these things called mango margaritas oh my god they were so yummy yummy I had at least five mango
Starting point is 00:18:14 margaritas before we went into the escape room then they let us bring drinks in so I brought two mango margaritas in with me to double fist. So you've had seven. So then you said you had five before. Five before and then I had two during. You should have seen me. They were like, where's the treasure? I'm like, Lord knows.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Lord, I don't fucking know. So then I'm having a great. And then I'm having like such a good time. And then we keep drinking, keep drinking. And then someone's like, let's split some wine, split some wine. I'm having like baby Guinness. And then it gets to the point where everyone's like, okay, we should probably go.
Starting point is 00:18:48 And I'm like, go. I'm slaughter. I'm absolutely slaughtered. I remember I got on the bus. I had to get the bus from central London back to where we lived. And I remember I missed the turning. We used to live down like a little alley. I missed the turning for the alley. Was lost. Like, where am I? No, no, no. I then realize where I was. Find my way back. How far up were you? I literally was like by the boots. I didn't walk that far. Imagine me over Putney Bridge like, where am I? I then crawl up the stairs. I couldn't walk properly. I was crawling up the stairs. It was so bad. It's like when you hit that.
Starting point is 00:19:28 It's like, so my parents and I and Lily always do like a Christmas trip, which I'm sad because we can't do this year. But last year we went to Windsor. Yeah. And we went to this beautiful old like pub. Yeah. But it used to be a brothel. And so it had like it was very dark word.
Starting point is 00:19:44 It was kind of sexy. I mean like that really dark wood like quite Jacobia. Yeah. Anyway, we're having drinks. And I'm like, there was a Christmas drink. I think something like the snowball. Yeah. I'm thinking, oh, my God, you know, I bet there's a bit of like bailey's in it.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Oh, snowballs are like. Oh, my God. I had, I'm bearing in mind I am a lightweight. Yeah. But I had one. I had to put my head on the table and my mom was rubbing my back. I was like, I'm so drunk right now. I'm bearing in mind, Lily can, Lily could drink me under the table any day.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Oh, yeah. My mom and dad, I don't think they. I don't think they're lightweight I don't think they're lightweights No so they're fine But honestly I was swaying And mum was like Everything under the sun
Starting point is 00:20:29 It had something like Run Because I know they are It was lethal And we read out the menu And it was something like Four different alcoholic beverages Snowball cocktail recipe
Starting point is 00:20:44 Here we go Unless it wasn't a snowball But it had something like that name serve oh it looks it's so festive though that's fun oh that's a mocktail hold on snowball cocktail how do you make a snowball advocat what's advocat oh no idea advocate advocate is a Dutch liqueur made from egg yolks brandy sugar and vanilla custard like consistency found in cocktails such as snowball okay it wasn't that then no it says it It's like 20% alcohol.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Okay. So it was something really, really strong. And it had something like four different. I remember for a fact it had rum in. Rum and Baileys and then two other things. And I was absolutely slaughtered. Now, we were going to the pantomime afterwards because Lily and I love a pantomime. Oh, we love a pantomime.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Yeah. So I was just like this. I was like, Lily. I'm please. I feel so un-wow. Are you drunk because I'm slaughtered? I'm absolutely slaughtered. It's honestly such a spectacle to, I used to think, like, when I first met you,
Starting point is 00:21:53 I used to think you were putting it on. I used to think, I used to think you were like, egging it on. Like, can I have one drink? And she'd be like, I'm, fuck, fuck. And I'm like, tolerance is so low. It is very low. It is really low. Like, I will have one drink and I'm like, oh, one eye starts to close.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I'm like, oh, God, I'm feeling it. On our sleigh. Long, let the good times roll. Let the good times roll. Let the good times roll. Right, should we finally dilemma it? Let's dilemma. Tell me the dilemma, my love. So,
Starting point is 00:22:25 Hi girls. Yes. I really hope you can help because I'm in a mess that feels equal parts romantic and also a bit ridiculous. Okay. So my partner and I have been together for two years and this is our first Christmas actually hosting something together. Oh. Well, technically I said we should host a little Christmas party and by little I meant a few friends, hot chocolate and maybe some board games. My partner, however, heard a massive festive social event and invited around 30 people without
Starting point is 00:22:53 including plus ones. So that's like... 60, could be. If everyone has a plus one. And also invited his ex-girlfriend, which is where the problem starts. Well, yeah. Can I first say, why do I feel like this will be your relationship? You'll be like, cozy night ball games and your boyfriend will be like, and he's like so I'm
Starting point is 00:23:14 invited 60 people you'd be livid you would there's nothing angus katie more when she's got in her head that she's having a chilled night and people come over she's like i'm so angry right now and i can you're my best friend i love you back and see it all over your face and i'm like take over she's few men i'm like no one come near me why is he invited his ex-girlfriend though why is he invited his ex-girlfriend who is this i told him i wasn't super comfortable with her coming yeah super comfortable she's so rational i literally throw a plate i literally like Why? Have that hussy step of thoughts in this, in this flat. I would love someone to call me a hussy. Because it's so much relevant. That's like, that's why. That hussy. I'd be like, holly.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Okay, go on. So I told him I wasn't super comfortable with her coming. Not because I think he has feelings for her. I really don't think that. Okay. But because she and I have never met. And honestly, I just wanted our first Christmas to feel like our thing. And he said I was overthinking it
Starting point is 00:24:17 And that she's basically family Now that's where I'd get what fucked off That stung but I tried to let it go I'd be crying Trying to let it go I'd literally be like Emotional damage I'm suing you for emotional damage
Starting point is 00:24:32 You and that hussy Sue So fast forward to last night When I walked into the kitchen And overheard him on the speaker phone with her Laughing about some old inside joke involving a previous Christmas party they were at together. No, why are you calling her?
Starting point is 00:24:48 Why are you on the phone? She's not your mother? I don't like this at all. To many things worse, the party prep has turned into a full-blown disaster. Every time we try to plan something together, we end up bickering, not yelling, but just tense and very short.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I'm lanced up between feeling petty, insecure, and genuinely just unheard. I don't want to cancel anything, but I also don't want to host something where I'm quietly spiraling and his ex is sipping mold wine in my living room. I mean, this is fair. I completely understand it.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Now, I don't know if this is irrational of me. Don't go. If he wants it this way, fuck it. Don't fucking go. Go see your friends and say, come, wait. He's not listening to me at all. He's taking more priority that he wants Hussie and the living room was filled mine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:28 And if he's doing this and not listening to me, I just won't come. So I'm going to go see the girls. I'm going to go over to Jennifer's house. I'm all going to do a ballgame chocolate night there. Gingerbread housemaking competition. Now, that's the petty in me. I kind of back that. I think Petty play Petty.
Starting point is 00:25:42 You don't know what you've got. until it's gone. Oh, that's what I'm going to say. If she kept pounding it. And, I mean, it's different because Archinae met young and also his ex was never an issue for Archonair's relationship. There was never crossovers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:56 You know, I've even met her and she's lovely. Yeah. She's so lovely. So it's no. And also she is friends with some of his friends. Yeah. So if she did, which she has in the sense of I went to a wedding last year and she was there and I'm going to go to another wedding this year and she's going to be there.
Starting point is 00:26:11 No issues whatsoever. Because she's friends with Archie's old school friends. Now, if my ex came, it'd be a very different story. Well, yes. Do you what I mean? Yeah. But what I'm getting from this is that she's an Archie's ex-type. She's still friends with the friends.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yeah. And we don't know how long they were together previously. We don't know how long they were together. But what I don't like is that why are you calling her on speakerphone? Yeah, it feels like she's more of a priority. It massively feels like she's just a priority. So leave. I'm sorry, this is the petty of me
Starting point is 00:26:45 and maybe I'll listen 20 years if I can be like, oh, kitty. But I'm sorry, I'd be like, look, I'd sit in down and be like, I've told you what I really wanted to do. Yeah. You've invited 30 people without giving me a heads up. I'd be livid. I'm sorry, I'd be absolutely. Also, imagine if she didn't know at all,
Starting point is 00:27:03 she's got the board games out with her friends and everyone comes in, pop in the champagne pain. And you just know she's organising that all now herself because men are useless. Completely. Literally. He puts the idea out there and she'll be funding it all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:17 And then... I think... I don't even know if you have an ultimatum. I think I'll make another plan. Yeah. Say, look, I know you're going to fill up set because in your mind you're going to think, but this was supposed to be Arthur. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:29 This was... I'm sorry, he's fucked up. He's ruined it. Yeah, that's his fault. And that was on him. Yeah. Look, I don't know how I'm always a girl's girl, so I've got your back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Don't know how the communication was. Did you both communicate to each other what you wanted from this party before hand? Yeah. Yeah. Like, did you say, I'm kind of thinking mold wine? Yeah, yeah. Like Harry Potter night, blah, blah, blah. And he's thinking, bring the cat.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Like, do you what I mean? Get the bag. Get the bag. Like, what's the scale here? Yeah, yeah. Because if you did communicate that and he thought, well, fuck it. I'm just going to invite my friends anyway. That's so disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Yeah, that is really disrespectful. If the communication didn't happen, well, that's where growth starts. Yeah. That's where you need to start. Like, you need to sit down and say, when we do this, we need to communicate what we want from there. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. It's like I I always appreciate if I meet a friend's parents for the first time and they hate heads up, they hate swearing. Oh, so good. Yeah. My God, thank you so much. Yes. Yeah. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:28:28 You're on the same page. Heads up. Very prudish. Great. Thanks. I'm going to be literally Valjeu Mare. Yeah. I don't mind a heads up. I don't mind that. No, no. It has to be that honest communication that. So I think if he's pushing, pushing, pushing for X to come and the Mould's wine, hussy to sit on your sofa, let her. Let her. Fine. Because actually, if he goes ahead with this party and find that you're not there, he's not the one. No. Honestly, no. I know some people aren't down for tests. I love a test. I think a test, I think a test shows a lot.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Yeah. Because if they party, they've got something to prove. If they don't, then... Fine. You would rather, for a party, if your girlfriend to not be that. Imagine you were dating a man and you say, I don't feel comfortable with that. And he goes, okay, have fun at your friends. Have fun with Kitty then.
Starting point is 00:29:13 He's not even like, oh, but I really want you there, Katie. Yeah, like what? No, look, I won't invite her. I'll talk to her and say that you're my priorities. And he goes, oh, I can understand how you feel that. Well, have fun with Kitty then. And you told me this, I'd be like Katie. I'd be so worried.
Starting point is 00:29:28 I'd be like, oh, God. This is not your prince charm. This is not it. Not it at all. Good luck. Good luck. Go forth. Go forth.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Okay. I've got one. I've got one. Okay, I'll poop on you. Thank you. People not reading their bloody emails. I cannot stand it for my muggle job when I'm receptioning. The amount of miscellaneous requests I get. It's stupid.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Or passive aggressive. I asked for this last week and silly bitch, I sent it to you last week. Have you opened your email? Yeah. Oh. Open your emails. Open them. Check your junk.
Starting point is 00:30:14 There's nothing more that infuriates me. Now, something that I can't stand more than... No, actually, no, that's not true. That's not true. I was about to say I can't stand passive aggression. Yeah. I can be accustomed to it from time to time. I will be accustomed to passive aggression when it comes to this.
Starting point is 00:30:29 I'm like a huge smile at my face and saying, I'm so sorry about that. Have you had a chance to look at your emails? Silly bitch. It sent. It sent. And it had all the information in it so you wouldn't be coming down here with a grump on your face going, I've asked for this three times.
Starting point is 00:30:45 I've sent it three times. I've sent it to you. I've sent it to you. Ready? Some people, yeah. Okay, mine is, and this has happened to, this is more of a me-ick. I can never get a dress code right in terms of Christmas parties. So the general it is that I give myself.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Literally like, no, don't, because one time I was at your Christmas party and someone thought I was stoff. Someone said, can I, can you get me a churn on it, didn't that? Yeah. Could you get me, could you get me chin and I'm like, also, I can't, I, I don't understand. When I told them they were, I was like, I don't understand what's happening right now. Also, this man was on his last legs. And it was also me and then it's me going, of course. Of course, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, no worries. But I was, I was dressed. I was in like a little like black skirt, black tights, heels and like a white jumper. her. So I think the black and white maybe made them think they were, I was like giving a waitress vibe. But like, I was,
Starting point is 00:31:46 I have a G&D. I literally like stopped me. Was it polite? Was it polite? That's why I was so taken aback. I was like, sure. I hadn't spoken to this man at all that evening. And he just came up to him and said, please could I have. He came up to me. He's, oh, sorry, could I, could I get a genitonic please? And I was like, and I was like, yeah, sure. Like, yeah. And he's like, oh, thank you. Do you know what's and hers of you actually humiliated him? say, I don't, I'm not working this party. And then I, my delay time so slow, though, I'm making the gin and tonic.
Starting point is 00:32:17 And halfway through, I go, oh my God, does he think I'm like, staff or something? Does he think I'm a waitress? I thought he was just asking like, oh, I'll ask this young, young lady to help me. But I was like, so I find I eat myself out and I also feel bad for people when they get the dress code wrong or when you underdress. I'd always overdress. I think you've always got to overdress. Always. Always.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Dress codes at Christmas parties really stress me out. I just think get a bit of a sequin. Some people have just like a sequin top on. Lovely. Some people are in like a floor length gown with loads of bows on. Some people are in like a velvet track suit. Like it's just, it's a hard, it's a hard like. I feel with a Christmas party you have to give a theme.
Starting point is 00:32:58 You have to tell them what the dress code is. Yeah. Because other people, some people turn up with jeans and the burkenstocks on. Like in a red top. They're like Christmas. Yeah. And other people are literally in their... Seekin gown. In their best.
Starting point is 00:33:12 In their Sunday best. In their finery. Absolutely. So you've got to be, you nail it. You've got to nail it. You've got to nail it. Yeah. Completely. Questions.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Questions. Now I've got, I'm serious. Yeah. Really? I've got quite a good one. And I've probably got an answer to this. But I'd love to hear yours. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:33 During the Christmas time, when you have loads of parties and social engagements, you meet a lot of new. people. Now, I am one who enjoys meeting new people. I don't mind. It doesn't faze me. However, I know that meeting new people can really depress up some people. They're like, I'd rather not go. Fives. I would just think that the people I know, I don't want to talk to anyone else. So my question to you is, what's a good, genuine conversation starter for meeting new people at a holiday gathering? I'd love to know. I mean, the one thing I always take away is people love to talk about themselves.
Starting point is 00:34:09 So true. Always. So like, but I think I saw something on TikTok actually the other day about this. The being like the way to strike people up with conversation isn't like, how are you? What do you do? Is say something like disarming about yourself that makes them feel comfortable or something. Oh, how interesting. Where you come in and you just give them a story like, oh my God, on the way over here,
Starting point is 00:34:31 something was so embarrassing. Like I tripped and like hit my head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, oh, God, it was mortifying. I'm literally so clumsy. And then it kind of opens up them to be like, oh my God, actually, yeah, I literally slammed my elbow the other day on this. And then, oh, and then it bounced from that.
Starting point is 00:34:47 You're in a role. Yeah. Rather than like, hi, nice to meet you. So how do you know so and so? Oh, I live with them. Do you don't get it to me, actually? I'm actually going to put PSA out here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Yeah. Yeah. The amount of social occasions I go to. Oh, no. We as a flat have lived, I've lived with the same people. people for five four four four or five years five yeah four years with everyone yeah the other one yeah the other one the fact maybe maybe it's maybe it's mean to assume that you guys should always talk about me but i assume you do but it's when i meet people and they're like so how do you know how do you know so i've lived with them for years and this is my flat i live here i remember i've had it before people
Starting point is 00:35:37 come up to me and they're like, so how do you know Archie? I'm like, this is, I live here. I'm his housemate. I don't know what type this is happening. I think it's the very race last year. Someone came up to our housemate and said to him, how do you know Kitty? With her? I've literally responded, this is my flat.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Like, I literally, I was like, I live here. I had it before. I was coming to a house party at our old flat and I didn't have my keys. I ring the doorbell. Someone answers and they're like, who are you here for? And I'm like, I live here. Like, I live here. That is so great.
Starting point is 00:36:14 And it happens all the time. Especially. And I just find myself like being like, I'm like, do you know, we've lived together. We're actually quite a close friendship group. Like, not mentioned, I'm pretty sure they must have mentioned me at one point because we literally live in each other's pockets. What do you mean? So I hate the whole. Oh, how do you know?
Starting point is 00:36:37 know so and so you should uh truthfully i'm like oh i live i live with so oh really yeah and i have you sat on my fucking soap for a minute you're hussy yeah hussy's all around i'm like you probably stayed bad hussy energy bad hussy energy okay tell me you're silly so my silly question is tell me would you rather live in a snow globe live in a snow globe for a year oh for a year okay for a year or have a little elf on your shoulder like elf on the shelf but the elf will sabotage you how long is the elf there elf's there for the year as well how is he sabotaging me so could be little things like jumping off tripping you up oh no fuck that i've got weak ankles like moving your things around oh no or it could be things like you go into a social event and
Starting point is 00:37:27 they're like oh in your ear kind of like Miranda priest so they're like by the way that's that's that's Amy and she works in corporate And then you go, hi, Amy. She's like, my name's Jennifer. And the elf's like, sucker. Will the elves do anything good for me? Not, like, it'll give you a boost if you need it, but like he's mostly there to be mischievous.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Okay. But if you live in the snow globe. Yeah. I've got a question. Yeah. You can't leave the snow globe. Can people visit the snow globe? No.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Can people sit on the snow globe from the outside? But you can have two people in the snow globe. Plus me, like three. And then people can come and, like, wave. but they can't speak to you. Oh. Am I cold in the snow globe? No, like you live in your best side.
Starting point is 00:38:11 There's a house site. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Do you know what? There's something about the snow globe practicing my skiing for a year. Could be a good skill. Could be good.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Right on spot like, good skill set. Yeah, yeah. With the elf, I think I'd have a, with the elf, I think I'd have a mental breakdown. Yeah, you can't. So I think I'm taking the snow globe. I love that. Yeah, thanks.
Starting point is 00:38:29 I think I'd take the elf. Trust no one. I just take the elf. No, I can't have that, though. I wake up with positivity beaming through my ears. So if someone's like, you know, shit, I'd be like, I'm going to literally kill you.
Starting point is 00:38:45 I'm like, okay, hater. And I believe I think I'd become really like with everyone. Chip on your shoulder, Scrooge. Literally chip on your shoulder. Yeah. Right, guys. End of the air. I've got to the end of the air.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Take it easy in this Christmas season. Oh, yay. Love you. Bye. I've got a rebel soul. I've got a rebel soul.

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