The Debrief - Flat Fiascos pt.2 | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: June 2, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the debrief! With your co-host Katie McNeil. And your co-host Katie Lee. Thank you very much. Here we are again. Round of applause for Monday. Snaps for Monday. He was obviously as the debrief list is keeping up to say, we have been bingeing
Starting point is 00:00:32 glit. Oh my god. That said I live for applause was that Rachel? I'm like Tinkerbell. I'm like obsessed. It was like Finn. I'm like Tinkerbell. I live for the applause. obsessed. It was like Finn, I'm like Tinkerbell, I live for the applause. I honestly, the first four seasons of Glee are untouchable in my opinion. They are brilliant. So good. Who's the writer? I think his name is Ian Brennan. It's really good. Brad Falchuk and Ian Brennan or something. They're really good. Also the comedy in it. I'm like, oh, it's such good time. It's the TV program I wish I was in. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Like I wish I was in Glee. It's iconic and it's always, everyone loves a TV series, excuse me, that's like based around high schoolers. Yeah. You've got Glee. Vampire Diaries. You've got Vampire Diaries. You've got Gossip Girl. You've got Glee, you've got Vampire Diaries, you've got Gossip Girl, you've got Pretty Little Liars.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Oh, it's like bang. We actually Pretty Little Liars should be next. We should start that again. It's always the weird first episode though, when they're in that barn. Yeah. Ali? Ali? Ali? They did milk the Ali though, didn't they? Like A, who's A?
Starting point is 00:01:47 Oh, you don't understand. The first episode was the Doll's House. Doll's House was iconic. I was like... And Doll's House was peak television. This is brilliant. That was like when I was in my Gossip Girl Vampire Diaries era, Pretty Little Lies, I was just, oh, I was in my happy place. Oh, you were jam packed. It Lies, I was just, oh I was in my happy place.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Oh, you were jam packed. It was a simpler time. Yeah, he had a full schedule. Big time. Right, you ready? Hell yeah. So my mantra for this week is, I release the need for outside validation. Oh, I really like that.
Starting point is 00:02:18 It's so good to just remind yourself, oh my God, I've actually got gossip to tell you but I can't tell you on the pod, so I'll tell you afterwards. Oh my God. Sorry, debrief, sorry. Oh my God, I've actually got gossip to tell you, but I can't tell you on the pod. So I'll tell you afterwards. Sorry, debrief. I'm sorry. I'm letting go. I think I'm pretty good at allowing myself to dwell in what other people think of me, but also I think like friendship-wise. But then I think when it comes to career, I can get like, I can overthink stuff. So I think just to remind myself that actually, what anyone else thinks or their opinions doesn't really matter because I'll have my self-belief and I'll keep on churning forward. Oh, I love that.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Choo-choo all aboard the self-belief train. Love that. Right. Tell me your mantra for this week. My mantra this week is let them. I feel like it's been a very common, but hey. Tell the debrief listeners about what happened at work. Oh my God. I got called fucking stupid over the phone today at work. I made people cry. Made me, hey, listen, seven in the morning. I'm sensitive as fuck. I'm a sensitive girlie anyway. Some woman shouting at me down the phone calling me fucking stupid multiple times. No, I'd cry.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And then saying she was then writing a letter to head office. So I get sacked. Stop it. Hilarious. I literally was like, all I did was offer to cancel your membership. Membership, yeah. Because you were so upset with it. I was like, I can cancel it if you want. What the fuck? What? What is your name? What is your name? I was literally like, girl, I just feel like, you know, when you're just like, not even
Starting point is 00:03:51 the, here's the thing. I think there are people in our lives that you're a person in my life. And then there's the general public. The general public are pissing me off today. I'm literally, I feel like I've had a bit of a thunder cloud over my head all day because of it. Like literally set me off on the wrong foot. I just finished my overnight Weetabix literally on cloud nine and I felt like I got dropped into hell. It's so hard to pull yourself back into a positive mindset when something like that happens.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Especially, you're like, oh, you've really ruined my day now. I literally feel low. I was like, I feel really low. Yeah. And also my job's customer facing. So now I was like, now I've got to be chirpy chirperson. Complete. And I'm like, I just want to go home.
Starting point is 00:04:33 I actually felt like such a child. I was like, I want to go home. Someone pick me up. Yeah. I want to go home. Mum. Mummy. I can't be doing this.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Come pick me up. Yeah. Come get me. So let them. Okay, I love that. What's your song? My song for this week is actually classic. Seven Nation Army could pull me back. That's a banger.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I'm gonna fight them off. Brilliant, isn't it? White Stripes. Such a good song. Yes, it is by the White Stripes. Seven Nation Army. What a song. I remember a guy that I was obsessed with in secondary school loved the White Stripes. So I listened to their entire discography back to front and they casually brought up in conversation like, yeah, but like, have you heard Apple Blossom? Like, I love that one. He's like, you listen to the White Stripes. I was like, yeah. How did you It's like you listen to the White Stripes.
Starting point is 00:05:25 How did you find out he will listen to the White Stripes? Because he always used to like when we chatted, he'd be like, oh my god, I fucking love the White Stripes. I was like, oh my god, me too. But I didn't know it. So I had to do my market research. It's the same with my ex-boyfriend loved Peaky Blinders. And I went, oh my god, same. He was like, oh, we need to watch it. Never watched How to Binge It. So I was all caught up. Oh my god. Do you know that's so cute? So I wasn oh my god same. He was like oh we need to watch it. Never watched how to binge it. So I was all caught up. Oh my god, do you know that's so cute. So I wasn't living a lie. That is so cute.
Starting point is 00:05:51 So I could be like yeah god Tommy Shelby I'm all right. Sure I was going to have this one. Imagine if he was like who's your favourite character and you're like. All of them remain one. Really, really. I find where they shoot it actually character in its own thing. Tell me your song for this week. My song is, it's like, Because I want to be your emotion of this lovesick lullaby.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Oh, Youngblood. Right. Youngblood's I'm, I shouldn't be attracted to him by I am. I actually don't know how old he is. I don't want to catch a case. Let's say keep going. But he's this like Mancunian singer. And he does like rock stuff. But he's recently come out with a very like Arctic monkey sounding song called Love Sick Lullaby. And it's all I've been listening to. And because he's got the Northern accent, he's like, I feel sick when I wake up. And it's kind of sexy. Oh, that's so you.
Starting point is 00:06:54 I'm kind of like really into it. You love enough. He's 27. He's 27. As in Young Blood? Yeah. As in like, this guy? Yeah, he's 27! Yeah, he's 27!
Starting point is 00:07:11 Why did I think he was younger than me? Don't you be worrying, there'll be no court case ever. Oh my god, I really thought I was catching a case there. Yeah! So, he's three years older than me! He does look quite young. I can't imagine you fancying him. He's very punk.
Starting point is 00:07:26 It's his energy. Isn't it? It's his energy. It's very, very punk. Because I feel like- I would never, if I saw him in the street, I would never stop it. Guess how old- sorry, now I'm in a hole. Guess how old Machine Gun Kelly is.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Machine Gun Kelly? Yeah. Is he like 30? Okay, you were close. 35. 35. That is really surprising. Machine Gun Kelly is. Machine Gun Kelly? Yeah. Is he like 30? Okay, you were close. 35. 35! That really surprised me. I thought he was younger. I thought he was way younger.
Starting point is 00:07:52 All right, let's do another one. Guess how old Travis Barker is. Travis Barker, oh. Married to Courtney. I want to say like 32, 33. 49. He's old! 49.
Starting point is 00:08:04 He's 49! This is a great game. He's just popped out a child. He's popped out a... But you know what it's like with men? They can have a baby anytime. That's crazy. Yeah, I know right. 49.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I know right. You'll never guess it. Right, should we wreck her? Yeah. Okay. Wreck her, wreck her, wrecker. Recommendation. This week's recommendation is bloody rugby innit? Rugby lads, rugby lads, lads, lads, lads, lads. How do you pass a rugby ball? To the side. And you twirl it. You twirl it. You go, oh, like spiral. Do you know how many are in a pack?
Starting point is 00:08:47 Seven. Oh yeah. Potentially. I was just being silly. I thought it was called rugby sevens. No, that's something so different. That's seven. They're like, oh, I thought, hang on a second.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Wait, were you asking how many balls come in a packet? Because I don't know. No, no, no. I was saying how many are on a team. I think seven. Because you have rugby sevens. No, I don't know. No, no, no. I was saying how many are on a team. I think seven because you have rugby sevens. No, no, no. Rugby sevens is a rugby union in which teams are made. Oh, no, no, you're right. You're right. Seven. Made up of seven players playing seven minute halves instead of usual 15 players. Like 40 minute halves. We've got no clue. Honestly, we have got no idea. Kit and I, the two most laddish rugby fanatic,
Starting point is 00:09:37 sport driven people, went to go see the rugby at Twickenham. We were at the Twickenham. At Twickenham and part of me was quite excited because I thought, look at me, I'm in Twickenham. This is where all the things happen apparently. Did you see that row in front of us of all about six, seven boyfriends and each one brought their girlfriend and I thought to myself, look, I'm lucky that Archie hasn't submerged me in that. At least I can go and at least bring my girls. But I thought to myself, Katie, imagine if your boyfriend is army every week and rugby every weekend, rugby every weekend, rugby. Book you a ticket, darling. Darling,
Starting point is 00:10:15 don't stress, don't stress. I'll book you a ticket, book you a ticket. The other girlfriends are coming too. That could be your life. I'd be a bit annoyed because I did enjoy it. I was watching it very like, oh, this is fun. It's very interesting to see up close instead of on the television because the injuries look a lot more like, I spent a lot of time with Wednesday. However, I did like the fact it was almost like going to the theatre, but you could leave whenever you wanted. Yeah, that's something the theatre doesn't offer. That was quite naughty. And also, as it shouldn't, the theatre is being myed. Stay immersed.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Stay immersed and stay in the bloody theatre and drama of it all. Big time. But you can tap in and tap out. I was tapping in and out. At one point, Katie and I just laughed for about 20 minutes to get some Halloumi fries. That was really, yeah. I thought this is my kind of sport. Yeah, you've got to catch it off beat.
Starting point is 00:11:03 I couldn't be watching it dedicated for 90 minutes. No. Oh, come on, let's do that. I couldn't be doing that. No, no, no, no, no, no. But great for a day out. Great for a day out. Book your tickets, get to Twickenham.
Starting point is 00:11:16 The energy was electric. And actually, Army Navy is a good way to get into rugby, if you would like to. Yeah. It's a nice day out in Twickenham. It's always in April. So it's always in April, so it's sunny. And it was pretty easy to get to and from. Oh, really easy to get to and from. Good atmosphere. Although there was a little scuffle, wasn't
Starting point is 00:11:38 there? There was a scrappadoo. There was a scrap. Oh, I got so excited watching the scrap from afar. I was like, drama. Oh my God, I know. One of our friends films it. So I was like zooming in later when I was put on a group chat. I was like, now that would be anxiety. Oh, big time. Anxiety.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Hell yeah. You ready? Yeah. Let's debrief. So this week on the debrief, we are talking about flat disasters. And this isn't flatmate nightmares. I don't like my flatmate. No, this is about flat issues within the flat that we know too well. So we started by asking the debrief some of the worst things that have happened whilst living in their flat. And I have had some great ones. Oh, I can't wait. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:32 One of my favorites, which isn't technically a structural issue, but this one says, hi girls, I once weed in the corner of my room thinking it was an en suite when I was drunk. Oh, bless her. We've all been there. We've all been there. It happens. Yeah. Did I ever tell you about the time my sister weed on the floor on the holiday? No. Oh poor Lily. She's going to be sighing when I'm telling this story. Poor Lily. So we were sharing a bedroom on holiday with a lovely resort with me, daddy, me and Lily. So me and Lilz had
Starting point is 00:13:04 her own room anyway. Lil woke up needing a wee in the night, daddy, me and Lilly. So me and Lil had her own room anyway. Lil woke up needing a wee in the night, was panicking because it was dark. So she couldn't, also my sister sleepwalks. So she couldn't see where she was going. She was panicking and asleep. I just saw her going around the room, bumping into things, it's like, what's she doing?
Starting point is 00:13:19 She couldn't find the toilet. So she just pulled down her pants. She weed on the floor. On the floor. On the floor to which I woke up hearing,ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss on and fell back asleep because I thought I was dreaming. Then got out of bed and my foot was wet. I was like, why is there a wet patch on the floor? I was like, it happened. The floor. Then I told my sister and my sister was like, I am so embarrassed, please never tell anyone this. Now it's on the debrief.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Now it's made it here. Now it's for everyone to hear. Anyway, go on. This girl weeded in the corner of her room. When it was drunk, couldn't get the stain out and it stank. To be honest, I don't know how I'd go about getting that stain out. I don't. I'd have my mum on the phone first thing for sure. I'd be like, I couldn't ring my mum and tell her that.
Starting point is 00:14:18 No, you probably couldn't. I'd get admitted into rehab. Your mum would be like, you're taking it too far. You're hurrying up. Too far. You're hollering up. Too far. Get in control of your life, Katie. You'd be like, ah! One of the girls here says to me, this was almost a structural thing.
Starting point is 00:14:34 She says, hi girls, my bedroom wall, this is my nightmare, backed onto a nightclub. My pillow vibrated every single night. Apart from Mondays. Apart from Mondays. Apart from Mondays. Yep. Mondays was her rest day. Imagine trying to get to sleep and it's like... I hope your rent was reduced. It bloody battered me. I hope your rent was a sweet deal.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I hope your rent was like 200 quid a month. I hope you had free rent. Yeah. I mean, that's wild to me. Well, we live on a high street and that was noisy enough. That was so noisy. It's actually put me off. I don't think I could ever do it again.
Starting point is 00:15:18 No, it was so noisy. And you were lucky because your bedroom was on the back of it. So you were like towards the other way. Whereas me, Arch and our flatmate were all on the high street. Bedrooms were on the high street. So it was like relentless. Bad. Awful. So I have one that says, when I was living in London, I once had a snack before bed and left the packet on the side. I woke up in the night to three mice on my bed nibbling at my food. No, stop it. No, that actually makes me want to cry because that is my worst.
Starting point is 00:15:56 We're no stranger to mice. No, don't. We're no stranger to mice. Our old flat on the high street, it was a flat down an alleyway. I used to call it a muse house to make it seem a bit more appealing. That's lovely. That's lovely. It's just down the muse.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Yeah, it's just down the muse. Down the alleyway. But in the alleyway, everyone would leave their rubbish by our front. It would be kind of on the sides of our front door. And like we had all these pipes. I think the mice would come because of the rubbish on the ground and get into the building. That's how they got in. I mean, the building was falling apart, the seams that we lived in before. But they have come out of like, we had a hole in our wall in the bathroom by the sink that I used to see them scamper into.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Stop it. So I fully- You saw them a lot earlier. Here's the problem. I saw this mouse, could have been multiple, could have been a family of them. Oh, stop. I saw them three times. Right?
Starting point is 00:16:55 You had one on your bed, didn't you? Oh my God. That was the- So I had- That would have made me- I genuinely- If that happened to me and all of that- Your poor sister. I would have never come back. She thought I was like dying or something. I literally, I was sat watching New Girl on my computer and I had my blanket half on the floor, half on me. I must have been too still.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I think that was the issue. I must have been too still. Yeah. And then all of a sudden- Dating's not like, twitching and bouncing. Every five days. still. Yeah. And then all of it's not like twitching and bouncing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was sat there and I literally it's scampered up and literally went on my laptop. I freaked the f*** out. I would have cried. I genuinely started screaming. Your sister was staying with us at the time. She's like, Katie. I was like, oh my God. I'm literally like near tears. I'm like, what the
Starting point is 00:17:43 f***? What the f fuck? And I couldn't find where it went. I went straight to the supermarket and bought nearly every single rodent repellent thing I could find. I bought the plug that emits the sound. I bought the spray. I bought like the trap didn't even come into the trap. That was annoying. It makes me feel sick. It was just the worst. So girl, I get the mouse thing. And it took like maybe a year later. Like I was meticulous with my room. I was like, I cannot. I was so anal. I was like not even a crumb will drop in there. I cannot have
Starting point is 00:18:16 a mouse because I'll be so scared. Yeah. Then I came back one night, went into the bathroom, took out my contact lenses, came back through, went to the microwave to put something in it. And when I touched the microwave, something scuttled off behind her. And because I didn't have my contact lenses in, all I could see was t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t. And I was like, I know exactly what that is. And I'm so terrified right now because- It's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Oh, it was awful. And my mom and dad, so my mom and dad lived like in an old property. Oh yeah, I bet they get mice. And they had problem with mice. And apparently it was mainly in Lily's room, which you can understand because of the attic room. And they had a real problem with mice for years and they never told me, like never ever ever told me until recently where they were like, yeah, we had a real big mice problem and we just hid it from you because we knew you'd be terrified. It's so scary. Oh, thank God.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I don't know why they're so frightening, but they are. They're horrible. Terrifying. Horrible, horrible animals. He'll love this last one. Talking about mice. He's an animal that loves a little nibble of a mouse. My flatmate adopted a snake without a tank. And it gets worse. It lived in her sock drawer. I was in constant fear that wherever I went, this snake would be. Once I went into the bathroom and it was wrapped around the shower head. I was naked and afraid. I... no. I don't.
Starting point is 00:19:54 No. A snake. A snake. If you came to me and you were like, Kitty, I've adopted a snake and it's just in this house. I'd be like, get out. Get out. Get out now. Get out. Get out and remove your snake. You'd have to make it a little, get out. Get out. Get out now. Get out and remove your snake.
Starting point is 00:20:05 You'd have to make it a little penthouse outside. Get out. A snake. Take your snake and go. A snake is crazy. That is just feral. A snake is wild. Horrible. No, no, no, no. So my question to you, and I'm wondering if we're going to have the same answer is what do you think the craziest thing is that happened while we've lived together in any of the flats we've been in? Because I had an answer come straight to mind and I was wondering if you think it's the same one.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I haven't got an immediate one. Tell me what yours is. The window. Oh my God, how could I forget? Of Tell me what yours is. The window. Oh my god, how could I forget? Of course it's the window. The window. That bloody window. Guys.
Starting point is 00:20:52 That was... That was the worst experience. Oh my god. Oh my god, how have I not remembered this? I brought it out of my mind because I thought... I've never felt more bad for you in one moment. Oh my god. Was it the day we moved in? We were coming back from some we were we were coming back from somewhere because it was the weekend the Queen died. Or it was the weekend of the Queen's funeral. I always say Barcelona because we weren't in the UK when they did the funeral. Or when
Starting point is 00:21:23 they died. We were in Barcelona. Maybe it was when we came back from, because I remember our flatmate had been out at golf. We had, I had come back from what we were all in your room. You guys had come back from somewhere because we were all chatting. Yeah. And that's when it happened. I also think so. I'll tell you exactly. We were in my room and I was saying recently to a friend, our flat, the rooms were so big, the bedrooms, they were huge. They were so big because we didn't have a living. It was supposed to be a flat for two. And then one of the bedrooms would be a living room. But we had a flat of four, obviously me and Art
Starting point is 00:22:01 share a room and then Katie and then our housemate. So three of those rooms were occupied for bedrooms. So we just had a kitchen, we didn't have a living room. So we spent a lot of time in each other's rooms. We were in my room and Archie goes to close the window, but he had this habit of just kind of like chucking them down. So just like slamming them down rather than like they were what the problem is they were like they Victorian windows. So you have to kind of unlatch it and then push them down. And then if you want to put, if you want to open the windows you unlatch it again and then push them out. You can kind of feel them give when you like push them up. You can feel when it's kind of like hooked on to stay up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And Archie just like shut the window and just went like, doon, slammed it down. And we literally, within the moment, slammed down, it shattered. It shattered. The sound I will never forget. The whole window shattered all on the high street, as well as all over the room. And there were huge fucking spikes of glass coming out of this window because it was like, it was wild. I think I just went silent. I think I started laughing. I was like, the sound of it was fucking horrendous. The first thing is thank fuck no one got hurt. We were like second floor. It was genuinely like a shower of glass landing on the street. There was a big, big shot. One of them went like-
Starting point is 00:23:32 It could have cut someone really badly. We were literally above like a hairdresser. So someone was coming out like it could have killed someone. It genuinely like, and then it was like, we were all sat there like, and the worst thing was, is that we needed it to get fixed, obviously, because it was like getting to nighttime, there was this one like big sheet of it that hadn't fully broken that was flapping about in the wind. So they got someone to come and board it up. But the people that our landlord got were like really dodgy. Yeah, they got it. And then they were like, that's 500 quid, you need to pay us 500 quid and kept like calling one of our firemen like,
Starting point is 00:24:10 send us 500 quid now. And we were like to put some board or like it wasn't even for the window repair. It was the board on the window. It was freezing. Oh, it was so cold. So even before that, we didn't have double glazing. No. Our heating was shit. Oh, I'm pretty sure the pipes must have been blocked up. Our heating didn't work. Those radiators did not work. We had to buy our own little ones.
Starting point is 00:24:34 So I was like, it was in bed like freezing. It was awful. And then the guy like who did the windows, like almost tried to blackmail us being like, we know you smashed the window. Yeah. They were like, we saw you throwing stuff at the window and you throw something and it went through the window and we were like, what are you on about? It was so bad.
Starting point is 00:24:56 No, no you don't. They were just trying to play with us though. Oh, it was crazy. We were literally, oh my God. And it wasn't even my room. I was just like, fuck. And this is the thing, if it was like a bedroom and we had a living room, it would have been like,
Starting point is 00:25:08 right, let's just sleep in the living room. It was like, we've got no bloody living room. And you had like glass all over the carpet. It was so- All over the bed as well. Oh my God, yeah. We were like, what do we do? It was so, oh God, it was so bad.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Near to tears, near to tears. That was a bad one. Right, Dilemmas? Hell yeah. De-breath-dilemmas. So, this one's an interesting one. Okay. So, hi girls. Hello.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Hello. Hi. I came into the kitchen early one Saturday morning. Oh no. Desperate for a coffee, only to find the coffee maker sitting in pieces on the counter. It was a shared machine, something that my flatmate and I had bought together after just a few months of moving in and it wasn't cheap.
Starting point is 00:25:58 No, they're not. We both chipped in to get something decent since we're both serious about our coffee. This is so archi and I coded. This is you and arch. At first, I thought maybe it just stopped working on its own, but then my flatmate walked in and casually said, oh yeah, sorry, I dropped it last night when I was wiping the counter. Okay. And said, sorry. Seems like the way it's been written was like a sorry. So no mention of fixing it, no offer to
Starting point is 00:26:27 help pay for a new one. And I waited thinking maybe they'd follow up with let me replace it, or I'll transfer you for half of it. But nothing came. They just grabbed a banana mumbled about something and then left. Oh, so I was staring at the broken pieces. The whole thing had shattered the plastic was cracked. And then and the whole thing looked shattered, the plastic was cracked and then the whole thing looked completely done for. I couldn't even salvage anything. What annoyed me more than the loss of the coffee maker was my flatmate's attitude. Yeah, fair. I get that accidents happen, but shouldn't you take responsibility when you break something
Starting point is 00:26:59 that isn't yours? Yeah, fair. I've always tried to keep things fair in the flat. We split cleaning duties. We both contribute to shared supplies, but just I now feel a bit stuck because if I brought it up, would it start a fight? My flatmate isn't the most confrontational person, but they're also not great at admitting fault. I could already imagine them saying I was overreacting. Part of me wants to just buy a new machine myself and avoid the drama, but another part of me thinks why should I have to stay silent? What message does that send? Surely she should pay for it to be replaced. So now I'm unsure
Starting point is 00:27:30 what to do. Is it worth keeping the peace and just swallowing the cost or do I speak up and risk turning our living situation into something more tense? I think you do need to speak up about this because coffee machines can be like 150 if you're spitting it. That could be maybe 300 in total. It doesn't matter whatever salary you're on, that's still a bit of money, like a chunk of money that you spent on this. And if you're even more into coffee, it could have been even more money, like 300, 400, like 500. They go up to a grand, two grand, three grand, they can be very expensive. So I think you definitely need to speak up about this. I think she should take accountability that she's broken it. So therefore, if she's not willing to buy another one, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:28:22 But she needs to transfer you for her because that's something you bought as well. Because it's also hard in the sense that if she's broken it and you're like, okay, well give me half and then I'll just buy a new one. But then it's like, I don't want you using the new one. Yeah. I think you need to chat to her and be like, oh look, obviously I know you didn't mean to. Try to do it really chilled rather than like a sit down and need to chat with you.
Starting point is 00:28:51 When you're both in the kitchen doing your own thing being that, oh, by the way, I was meant to say, I know obviously the coffee machine broke. Oh, so annoying. I know you didn't mean to. But obviously we split that. So I really would appreciate if you transfer for me the half that I paid or would you prefer to buy another one? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Off your back. Because if not gonna lie. I think you need to say that. If I broke, well Archie and I didn't even split for that coffee machine like that is Archie's, but if I broke that coffee machine, firstly, I'd never hit the end of it. Secondly, it would be a next day delivery because you can't live without that coffee machine for that long. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:27 No. I think you definitely need to chat about it, that it's not fair. Don't do it like a big drama. Just be like, oh, hey, so annoying. Obviously, I know you didn't mean to break it, but I was just wondering what you wanted to do with it. You wanted to buy a new one or if you wanted to transfer me for The half that I pay just just let me know. Yeah as I'd appreciate that Yeah, I know if you know, maybe I want to buy a coffee machine with the money you send me or just try
Starting point is 00:29:57 You need to say that though Yeah, you need to stand up yourself because it's not fair if you then pay for a big coffee machine and you buy Something more and then she breaks it again. Yeah. What are you going to do? You're out now three times the same money that you like. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Come on. No, no, no. Ick. Ick. Okay. Oh my God. Okay. I've got one.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Okay. I've got one. Okay. Okay. This is a funny one actually and it's to do with you, me, Archie and our flatmate. Interesting. And it's toilet roll wars. Yeah. I am loving it. Archie is finding it infuriating. I'm loving it. I've never stolen a toilet roll from your room. Oh, darling. I never have. That's really sweet. Genuine love. That is really sweet because I will admit I've
Starting point is 00:30:49 nicknamed for your bathroom. Yeah. I've definitely nicknamed one. I've been like, oh shit, what do I need to go get a whole nick? Yeah. So the four of us in this flat, Katie and our other housemate, they share a bathroom. They suck up the family bathroom. And then Archie and I have a bathroom in our bedroom, like our ensuite. So we found a few times we'll buy a toilet roll, put it in our bathroom, and then we'll be mid through one and it's gone. No, and Archie kicked off our other housemate being like, it's pissing me off now. I was like, Oh, God, this is the thing. Like, I also don't, but I'm like, he does it too. Completely. He does it too. Completely.
Starting point is 00:31:34 And I had to say to him, I was like, Oh, she look, I have done it before. So I don't really have a leg to stand like some. Do you know what? I'm at a point now it's kind of like cat and mouse. I'm on the toilet half it's gone. I'm like, fair play. Yeah, I'm at a point now it's kind of like cat and mouse. I'm on the toilet half it's gone and like, fair play. I'm like, I'll see how you move. I'll see how you move. I completely get that though. So funny. Right, you ready? Mine is, and you're going to understand this, is when you come in and someone goes, I've cleaned. No, you haven't cleaned. Oh my god, don't.
Starting point is 00:32:09 This is very targeted. This is targeted. At our flatmate. At our housemate. For sure. Taking a wipe. Oh my god. To a surface is not cleaning.
Starting point is 00:32:20 It's just not. I'm sorry. Taking a wipe across one measly bit of ceramic and then going, I've cleaned. Job done. Job done. It's not quite it though, is it? And I'm also like, there's still hair on the carpet. Did you manage to locate where the vacuum is?
Starting point is 00:32:40 It's crazy to me because my- And you're still laundry astray? A a skew and I'm thinking why one of our what can you not see that I can know honestly one of our housemates is like the thing that gets me I clean the bathroom. Yeah, I clean our shared bathroom. For some reason, there's a running commentary about how gebers the bathroom is from the one I share it with. That would really piss me off.
Starting point is 00:33:09 That would really piss me off. Listen, listen, listen. Instead of waiting for me. Why don't you grab that white? Why don't you, hey, grab that white. Grab that white that you've used once. You love. Grab that white that I know you love and just give it a little once over. I don't think he's ever cleaned it once.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Can't stand that. It's crazy. Can't stand that. It really infuriates me. Oh, massively. You don't know how you feel. No, it infuriates us. Right, you ready?
Starting point is 00:33:43 I'm ready. Questions? Questions. I'm serious.? I'm ready. Questions? Questions. I'm serious. And I'm silly. So, okay. Ask me. My serious question to you is, do you think you could live in a house share for the rest
Starting point is 00:33:57 of your life? It depends who with. Asking for a friend. Yeah. It depends who with. I could live a friend. Yeah. It depends who with. I could live in a house share. I just would like a bigger house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Like if I was in a house share that had a mansion and we were all in our wings, of course good. Yeah. I also love the company. I do.
Starting point is 00:34:21 And you know, like I think there's this big thing on TikTok at the moment about women being really proud to live on their own. And I'm like, good on you. Love feminism. Fuck that. I couldn't live by myself. Oh my God, how dull. Yeah. Well, you're saying I'm coming home and just sitting on my own like a loner. Yeah. No. I can't do that. No. And I love my own time. Yeah. But what? I'm crying. I'm happy. I'm sad, I'm angry, I'm excited. All those emotions are for what? No one else because I want no one to share it with. The four of us I could live with.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Of course I could, but it has to be a big house. And we'd have to have a cleaner, I think. Because if we had a big house and we had the same issue, you and I would go mad. Oh, we'd go mad. Insane. Insane, I fear. Oh, we'd go mad. Insane. Insane, I fear. Yeah. We'd go mad. Yeah. Okay. So my silly question is, would you rather, in terms of the mouse that we've discussed, would you rather have a constant family of mice living just in your room? a family of mice living just in your room.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Okay. So sometimes you come home and you see them all like having dinner on your window sill and then you come in and they all scamper away. Yeah, yeah. You're in bed and you feel like a little tail go over your neck and you're like, oh. Oh my God, no. And you see them all sat above you, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:39 They're not in any, anywhere else but your room. Okay, just your room. Okay. Just your room. Or you know those flies that are on the river? Oh my fucking God. Oh my God. Oh my God. What are they called like?
Starting point is 00:35:55 Nats? Midgees or something. Nats. Nats. Okay. Those Nats. They're all, have they actually called that? Well, see my American friends call them Nats. So maybe I thought they are midges.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I think they're midges. I've never heard of gnats. I'm going to say midges. There's like so many midges when you go for the river walk or the river run. The midges are like having a festival. They're at Glastonbury. They're like in these clumps. Would you rather have these midges everywhere else in the flat? So we've got the living room, the kitchen, the bathroom, the hallway, everywhere else but your room. I'd have to do the mouse in the room, but very, very begrudgingly because those fucking midges. Oh my dear God. I look like a woman possessed when walking.
Starting point is 00:36:46 At least you could get comfort in the living room. Yeah. And then, you know, because if the midges were out here. I'd be so annoyed. You couldn't socialize. All of us wouldn't want to be socializing. No. So we'd all be hidden in our rooms. The house would be ruled by the midges.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Ruled by the midges, for sure. No, no, absolutely not. Okay. Right guys, well, good to know. Good to... Okay guys, we've got to the end of the app. Have an amazing week. Have a lovely week.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Keep your positivity, keep your mantras. Absolutely. And get rid of those bad vibes from me. Get rid, get rid of the bad vibes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See you into next week guys. Love ya.
Starting point is 00:37:24 See ya! Bye!

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