The Debrief - "Get into The Debrief"
Episode Date: April 23, 2023Welcome to the Debrief! We are Kitty and Katie, two gals trying to navigate life in our 20's living in London and wanting to bring you along for the ride. We're here to cover everything from nights ou...t, to career goals, to bad dates, and everything in between. Welcome to our first episode and we can't wait to see you here every Monday! Want to debrief with us? Email hello@thedebriefpodcast.co.uk or DM us on instagram @the.debriefpodcast Lots of love,Kitty and Katie x Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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I got a rebel soul. I got a rebel soul. I got a rebel soul.
Hi! Hello guys! Hiya! My little debriefers. This is The Debrief. Can you believe that this is our first episode?
This is pretty, pretty crazy. We've had so much lead up to this, Katie. I know, we've been speaking about this for a long time.
For a long time. So I am Kitty McNeill. I'm Katie Leach. And we're very pleased to introduce you to The Debrief, which we believe will change your life.
which we believe will change your life.
Katie, tell us a bit about what our podcast is about.
We are all about every night out,
I think is rounded off the morning after,
with The Debrief.
We are here to talk about our nights out,
but not just that.
We're two gals just living our life in London as well.
Two gals just having a great time.
We're just chilling and vibing.
We moved to London when we were, how old was that, 18?
Yeah, I was 19. You were 19.
We've lived together ever since.
And we're going to talk about what it's like living in London, what it's like dating in London.
Oh dear.
Oh, this is a rocky one.
Oh dear.
And all the vibes.
Nights out, good nights out, shit nights out.
And we're going to talk to you about our lives.
Debrief to us, guys.
It's time to debrief.
Share the chaos.
Get into the debrief.
So that's what it's all about.
And we always are going to start off our podcast with a mantra.
Absolutely.
And why is that, Katie McNeil?
Well, I'll tell you why, Katie McNeil.
Because we live our lives by mantras.
We do it whether it's a sad day, bad day.
We talk a lot about what's going to hype us up this week.
Mantras are either a slogan or a phrase or a collective of words that you use
to make yourself feel that it's going to be a fucking epic day.
It's going to blow the day off.
It's going to blow the day off, my dear.
So, Katie, I'm going to tell you what mine is.
I usually go for a phrase.
No, no, no, I don't.
I'm talking out my arse.
I don't, I don't.
You're a liar.
I'm a liar, barefaced liar.
I usually go for a group of words, usually three, group of three.
Love that.
Whereas some people do slogans, so I'm not judging.
But what mine is for this week I'm going to be
confident
I'm going to be
accepting
oh
yeah it's a nice one
I like that
confident
accepting
and grateful
oh
no I'm not
you've scrapped the grateful
I'm sorry
I am grateful
but scrap it
it's too much accepting
so I'm going to I am grateful, but scrap it. It's too much accepting.
So I'm going to be confident, accepting, and fulfilled.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what I'm going to be.
Absolutely.
Confident because I feel, do you know, why not?
Why not? Why am I living my life not?
So I'm going to be confident going into the world with an absolute legendary outlook on life.
Absolutely.
And then I'm going to be accepting
because I feel like, fucking hell,
Katie and I have had the week.
We have had the week.
We had a week.
So I feel like it's accepting.
Whatever hits me, I'm like, boom.
Whatever, boom.
Like, I'm such an accepting woman.
Force feels.
I've got a forceful around me i'm
just keeping out all the demons but also the cheeky ones that want to visit me i might fucking
do it yeah that's that's why i'm accepting you came to tell me yours what's hitting you this
week what do you need see i've been listening recently to a song oh called i need to send it
to you actually it's called lucky girl oh I'm a
lucky girl I do lucky things and I love it okay so I'm always I'm a lucky girl
only great things happen to me only great things happen to me preach it if
you ever what am I gonna miss my train no of course not because only great things happen to me no and if you do one's arriving in two minutes yeah I'm a lucky so lucky yes lucky lucky I love that so it's yours
I'm a lucky girl yeah I would say honestly I'm a lucky girl and only good things will happen to me
oh god it's great say it again i love it and mine is confident accepting
and fulfillment fulfillment yeah i say it all the time though like say if i'm feeling slightly
like i'm not sure how i'm gonna handle the situation or like i've got so much to say
how am i gonna get i'm like confident accepting and fulfilled so let's crack into it oh my we've got a lot to do we were so
we were so excited to have our first episode be this week specifically this one because we have
had a really good week and i'm so excited for you guys to hear it as well because you're gonna
absolutely love the debrief it's from food poisoning it's from great clubs out, it's from chundering, it's from being in
Barcelona! It's bloody brilliant. I'm so excited. So firstly, actually one thing we
can't neglect before we went to Barcelona this week was we did see the
Great British Bake Off musical. Katie, how could we forget? Me, don't good things come
to those who bake.
Shit, that was bad.
Guys, we had so many expectations
and it was fulfilled every single one of them.
Yeah, really good.
It was brilliant.
I got the tickets for Katie's birthday.
Was it birthday?
Yeah, you did.
She kept banging on about it.
I love baking.
Banging on.
I really want to say it.
I was thinking, look look it's not really
my kind of thing
don't get me wrong
I love a musical
I'm so into a bit
of great Matilda
you know
and Ava
I love all that
like I love
Les Mis
love that kind of stuff
but
Katie's quite a connoisseur
yeah
with the musicals
it's a bit rogue isn't it
with the musical
so we were a bit not sure
but we loved it
if you want a good
how long was it maybe an hour and a half
two hours
if you want a bit of a two hour chuckle
and you're not listening to us
then go to the Bake Off musical
it was absolutely hilarious
and the best thing was as well
we saw a matinee
and you're thinking
it's a Thursday afternoon
who is going to be
at Bake Off the musical
and I tell you what
it's all elders
and us
it is isn't it
it was all elderly people
and they were loving it
it's quite nice
I tell you what though
I will fault it in the sense
that there weren't great snacks
I went to the bar
to get a few Haribos.
There weren't fucking any Haribos there.
Well, the problem is actually...
How's it?
So some theatres have these really nice crisps.
Oh, I know the ones you mean.
That come in the tub that I absolutely go feral for.
However, all they had was cupcakes.
And I thought, I'm not going to have them.
They look like they've been out there for days.
I'm not going to have your dry cupcake for five quid.
No, no, you're not getting a cupcake.
That was silly.
Such basket cupcakes.
That was silly.
I saw what they were trying to do, but I thought,
don't flatter yourself as to think you need this as well.
Everyone wants crisps, and there were no crisps.
There were no crisps.
I wanted some fruit pastels.
No fruit pastels.
I was livid.
To be fair, I did survive.
I got an ice cream.
I did get over it.
We did find a solution.
We did find a solution.
But the ice cream was nice.
But it's when the lights go down and you're like,
I know I will spill it on myself.
It's not the same.
No, it's not the same.
So with the Bake Off, I found the musical when there were light-hearted bits.
I was like...
Hilarious.
Hilarious.
I was like, so funny.
Like there was this Babs.
Babs.
Babs.
Babs was singing.
Babs was like middle-aged.
Where was she from?
Imagine like if you guys have seen Bake Off, imagine Val.
Like kind of like old just retired
rough around the edges
happy with life
happy go lucky
lovely baby
and she sang
the song
Blue Eyed Baker
about poor Hollywood
and it was just
it was for no one else
she's like
Blue Eyed Baker
she was stripping
and she like
stripped off her little
what's it called
pinny
and she's like
I thought this is quality.
It would have been so liberating.
Yeah, it would have been.
But then there were some bits that, oh, God.
It felt a bit, at times, like it was a GCSE drama piece.
Yes.
Just trying to get loads of relevant topics in.
And you're thinking, guys, this is big off the musical.
Let's chill out.
Let's steady on.
You know, I love to be awakened.
Oh, yeah.
You know, I'm not so ignorant as to think I know everything.
Absolutely not.
But there were many a thing that I thought, I don't need.
I'm here for the humour.
We're here for a jolly and a good time.
I'm here for a jolly.
Although there was one character that I couldn't stand.
Oh, you didn't like her, did you?
But I loved her song.
She had a brilliant like. Which one? The ones like, me, me, me, me, me, me. Oh, that didn't like her, did you? But I loved her song. She had a brilliant like.
Which one?
The ones like,
me, me, me, me, me, me, me.
Oh, that was quite good, yeah.
That was a really good one.
So that's how we started the week off.
We...
Bake off the music.
We also did a shopping trip to Zara
for some holiday outfits
because, guys,
guess where we were for the past five days?
Barcelona!
We've done it again.'ve done should we start a choir we we should do our own bake off the musical the debrief choir the debrief
the musical yeah absolutely we went to barcelona to see our flatmates run the barcelona marathon
oh they were amazing it was honestly quite it was very emotional Oh, they were amazing. It was honestly quite, it was very emotional to see them.
They were amazing,
weren't they?
It really, really was.
They were just so good.
They absolutely smashed it.
We were so impressed.
We were so impressed.
You know who you are.
Big shout out to you.
Big shout out.
The other interesting thing
was we were with
a really big group.
So we were with 10 people.
Yes.
So it was my family,
my parents,
our flatmates,
and my, one of the flatmates is my boyfriend, so let, our flatmates, and my...
One of the flatmates is my boyfriend, so let's put it out there.
Oh, yeah.
His family and his sisters.
Yes.
So all of his family, all of my family, and then you are our other housemate.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
So first time, like, families...
What a big trip, because it's first ever, like, boyfriend-girlfriend families holiday.
And then just me and our other housemate, they're like, hey.
Hey, girl.
Hey, guys.
Big trip, though.
Big trip.
Big moment for us.
I know that he was slightly stressed.
He was like, oh, God.
It went so well.
It went so remarkably well.
It did.
I can't lie to you.
I obviously was not running the marathon.
I think I just had a five-day bender.
I think I genuinely was drunk the entire time.
And I can't tell you why.
I really can't.
It's the sun.
It was there.
Anything over 11 degrees, we feel fucking bad.
I was cracking out.
Should have seen us.
I was cracking out.
Aperol was at like 10 a.m.
I was like, fill my glass, young sir.
It was...
Something about the heat brings it on.
Oh, absolutely.
It absolutely brings it on.
Absolutely.
But do you know what Barcelona would recommend, guys?
What?
An hour and 50 flight?
So ridiculous.
Ridonculous.
It was absolutely ridiculous.
You have to go.
It's so easy to get there.
Genuinely.
You literally pop on the fly, watch an episode, maybe two episodes, download, boom, done. And they're like, oh sorry we've landed. I'm like, what?
Yeah, yeah. Mug. I was like, I was looking out the window and I was like, where are we?
Although it's scary when you land because it's like you're going in the ocean. It looks like you are going in the ocean.
That was quite scary. But I tell you what, we had the best time as soon as we got
there, straight out. Of course we had to immerse
ourselves in the spanish lifestyle and we went for tapas oh i loved it i tried squid for the
first time it's not the first time that's the first time i've ever tried squid i genuinely
i feel it obviously me i'm like fish and chips please i was like i was sat there i was like no i'm gonna try
the squid but i didn't even realize it came with the ink so i'm sat there like but and this sounds
silly ordered squid they look like squids yeah they look like yeah and i was like yeah i was
like oh my god hello little friend i'm like i'm very sorry for what i'm about to do yeah but
came staring at me and then had a bit of the ink and it was bloody lovely.
It was bloody lovely.
It was my bin.
The food,
there's something about tapas I love.
It was very little.
All the little dishes,
you get to share them
and I'm not a sharer actually
and neither are you.
See, I'm not a sharer as well
and I remember I would,
because I was speaking to your dad
about tapas
and we both shared
our mutual hate for tapas.
Yeah, also just put out there,
Katie's got a bit of a thing for my dad.
I have such a thing for Katie's dad.
Honestly, he has big dilf energy.
Do you know what gets me?
Your dad has dilf energy,
but your mum has milf energy.
Yeah.
They're like a powerhouse together.
They're a power couple, aren't they?
Absolutely.
Their energy is electric.
It really is.
So what were you saying?
Was he talking about tapas?
He was like, I hate sharing.
And I was like, me too.
And we were both sat there because I remember he was so hungry.
He ordered some more food while we were having wine outside because he was like, yeah, he did.
He ordered some more patatas bravas because he was like, patatas bravas.
Because he was literally like, I'm really hungry.
He was like, that meal did not fill me dad does brass because he was literally like, I'm really hungry. He was like,
that meal did not fill me up.
That man's got such a big appetite.
He does actually.
Shall we tell the facts?
Oh yeah.
Basically,
my dad used to do a lot of running
so he has a very big appetite
but when he was young,
maybe in his early 20s,
he did an eating competition
when he was abroad
for the running competitions
and it was for, what was abroad for the running competitions. And it was for...
What was it for?
English breakfast.
How many full English breakfasts?
So you've got the black pudding.
You've got the toast.
You've got the beans.
You've got the eggs.
You've got the sausages.
She's largely in charge.
She's got everything.
The tomatoes, the mushrooms.
The mushrooms, I even like to say.
The mushrooms.
The mushrooms, yeah. He got them like to say. The mushrooms. Yeah.
He got them all in there.
He had seven and a half.
Full English breakfasts.
Seven
and a half. Can you believe that?
That's pretty impressive.
So the idea of tapas to my dad was like
absolutely, hated it.
But we put away
so much wine that evening.
We were spangled.
Maybe this is the thing.
Maybe when we become like proper adults,
maybe when we're like your parents and our other flatmates' parents,
maybe we'll be able to handle wine with our meal.
But I genuinely had, I had a sangria to start off with.
Did you?
Oh, you did?
I did.
It was very yummy.
Yeah.
And then had, then went on to wine with everyone.
By two glasses in, I was sat there,
head rolling, eyes rolling to the back of me head,
swaying around.
I was literally like, bloody hell.
And we still drank more.
We then ended up at a shisha bar.
Shisha?
My family.
Archie's family.
Boyfriend.
There we are.
It's out there now.
We've said it.
Hey, Archie.
Hey, Archie.
All of his family, my family, and you two.
Oh, my God.
At a shisha bar.
At a shisha.
I've never been to a shisha bar.
Oh, they were getting a bit annoyed with me there because they were playing.
Oh, my God.
They were playing some.
No.
Not really my vibe music. So I said, you know, I was like, oh, could we play a bit annoyed with me there because they were playing some not really my vibe music.
So I said, you know, I was like, oh, could we play a bit of Islands in the Stream?
So they were like, pardon?
Oh, no, they're not French.
Pardon?
Por favor.
No.
They were like, what?
And I said, could we have Islands in the Stream?
And they were like, no.
I was like, okay okay that's fine then
the thing that got me
was the fact that
see Kitty and I
are massive lightweights
yeah
and I was quite surprised
how I was still standing
but you were
sloshed
yeah
you were sloshed
sloshed
and we
every five minutes
we would sat down
and every five minutes
you kept getting up
being like
islands in the stream
islands in the stream I Islands in the stream.
I know.
You got up on the chair at one point.
And he was flat out like, no.
I said no.
I said no.
I said no, Nan.
I said no.
No.
He was getting stern.
Yeah, he was.
He was getting stern.
So we left the shisha bar and then went on the metro to La Playa,
a.k.a. the beach.
The beach.
We went to because apparently because obviously
you'd been to barcelona before you went clubbing as well with archie didn't you so he was like i
know where all the good clubs are i'm gonna take you to the club he's a little project manager
there always has to be one on a night out actually do you know what i say it but i thank the lord
for mine honestly i do i hate being the door of the Explorer.
Oh.
I like getting there and just following, having a few G&Ts.
Yeah.
And loving life.
Yeah.
And he's a project manager.
He is a bit of a project manager.
Thank goodness.
But we love him for it.
Do you know what?
I can't remember getting there.
Can you not?
No.
I can remember being on the Metro and jumping over the barriers.
Because this, right. So also, we couldn't get, we had contactless. I can remember being on the metro and jumping over the barriers.
Right.
So also, we couldn't get, we had contactless.
There's ways to get on the metro.
We were all tapping our cards.
Nothing was working.
And we were all like, oh, goodness.
So we all just jumped the barriers.
And I was like, that's the only thing I remember, jumping the barriers.
But I think I was dancing around the pole a lot. I had to run to get you at one point because you started running off and you were like,
wee!
And I was like, I'm not a runner or a track star.
And I'm sat there like, good day!
That was so embarrassing.
You were wee!
Running down the tunnels.
Oh, God!
I was like, oh, great.
Yeah, I can't remember any of that.
I remember seeing photos and i was
like oh because we did get on the l metro but then what's weird right so we jumped over the
barriers to get in and then we were panicking no i'm panicking i was like how are we going to get
back out there was no like transport police anywhere i was a bit concerned um i was like
i don't know how to pay a fine i've got no euros on me and all i've got is me apple pay but we um we get through other side was completely open what weren't even barriers
you just walked out so i was like what's the point of having barriers on one side and no barriers on
the other what i know i was really we literally do it all the time then genuinely we just strolled
out so then we went to the club we got stuck in a queue um with these people and
i don't know because archie again project manager he's like the way to get in is you have to make
friends in the queue so he literally comes in he's like hola hola he's like hola guys he's like hola
i'm for bath we we get in the queue
and then we're chatting to these people
from Amsterdam
and they were just
I can't remember any of this so you've got to take it over darling
so it was Kevin? Keith?
classic Amsterdam name
he was
the local Amsterdam
local Keith
he was literally sat there and do you know what's even worse
I love lying on a night out worse I love lying on a night out
I absolutely
love
I'm a compulsive liar
I love it
lying on a night out
I love it
because
who's gonna know
no one will ever find out
no one's gonna know
no one will ever
find out
I love it so much
so then
I got myself
in a bit of a pickle
because I didn't
I think I was too drunk
to stick to a good lie
so this guy was
chatting to us and he was almost like you know in Shrek when Donkey keeps popping his ear through.
I was with a group of people and he kept being like, have you ever been to Amsterdam?
And I was like, what?
And he kept repeating himself, have you ever been to Amsterdam?
And I was like, so I turn around, I was like, yeah, I love Amsterdam.
Guys, I've never been.
So I was like, yeah, absolutely love Amsterdam.
It's actually one of my favourite cities. done yeah and he was like oh my god yeah
isn't it beautiful I said oh the scenery is so beautiful like the cycling oh it's just it's
honestly so cosmopolitan I love the city I live and breathe Amsterdam yeah and he was like where's your favourite place to go and then I was like
oh you know
and I was like
I just
there's just so many
to pick
I just didn't
possibly choose at all
I love it all
and then I turned
you get caught out
in life so much
I get caught out
in life so much
so then I
I turned to
our other flatmate
to try and cast a lifeline.
I'm like, I don't know.
I don't know.
Where is my favourite place?
And he was like, you've never been to Amsterdam.
Stop lying.
No.
And I was like, well, now I'm embarrassed.
He called you out.
He called me out in the queue for Pasha.
I was like, what this?
I was humiliated.
Pasha, great club.
Pasha was a member like, what this? I was humiliated. Pasha, great club. Pasha was-
I can remember it.
Fucking brilliant.
So I think I basically, Katie describes me as a mover in the club.
You take up a lot of space on the dance floor, even if there is none.
Yeah, yeah.
I like to kind of have my own wash pit.
So like go out and then come back in.
You create like a big ball of space.
Yes.
I like to kind of make everyone think,
oh, she's having a great vibe.
And I am having such a good vibe.
You are.
But I want to make a mosh pit.
So I'm like, the beat comes, the beat comes, the beat comes.
I don't know how to talk to you.
Like, I'm so there.
I'm loving it.
You were so in the mood.
I'm in the mood.
Yeah.
My favourite thing, actually,
is that we were all getting vodka lemonades.
Also, the sizing
did I have a vodka lemonade?
yeah you did
did I?
yeah you did
I'm not a very big vodka girl
and you had a Jäger bomb as well
yeah I remember
taking the Jäger
because I remember
it was huge
like a baby bird
I was like
it was really big
it was huge
it was big
and I remember
just taking it
and just going
and just like
trying to pour it
in my mouth that was a strong Jäger though that was a just going... And just, like, trying to pour it in my mouth.
That was a strong Jager, though.
That was a really strong Jager bomb.
But I swear to God, I got a single vodka lemonade.
Yeah.
First of all, the lemonade was Fanta Lemon,
so I was immensely happy.
I was like, this is the best day of my life.
I love Fanta Lemon.
So I was like, a vodka Fanta Lemon?
I'm going to start asking for it here,
but I just don't think that... Will they help? I'm like, do you have Cloudy Lemonade? Like, I'm atanta Lemon. So I was like, vodka Fanta Lemon? I'm going to start asking for it here, but I just don't think that,
will they help?
I'm like,
do you have cloudy lemonade?
Like,
at the bar?
And it would be an egg.
So then we were at this club.
Me and you were like,
dancing up against the bar.
Did I tell you someone,
I realised later,
someone tried to chat me up and I didn't realise
they were chatting me up.
Were they fit?
Not particularly.
Oh no.
But this guy came up to me
when
when
when we were
at the bar
where was I
you were
you were dancing
we were
we were up
against the bar
dancing just up
against the bar
oh no
for a while
and I was like
oh no
and I was
oh I've got such
bad anxiety
see so you were
you were drunk enough
I wasn't
I was just
embarrassing myself
I was literally like
woo woo woo like loving life and this guy comes up but this guy comes out as drunk as me i don't know because we're both this is a
fact guys we are both such lightweights my drink of choice is a gin and tonic your drink of choice
varies vodka diet coke vodka diet coke but we could have one and we'll be like whoo like that's
me for the night but the this guy comes up to me and he's like,
oh, what drink is that?
What drink are you getting?
Was he tall?
Really tall.
Okay, nice.
And he was like, oh, what?
Tanned.
Was he Spanish?
He was really tanned.
I don't actually, I think so.
Okay.
He came up and he's like, oh, hey,
like, what drink is that?
What drink are you drinking?
And I was like, I don't know,
my friend got it for me.
And then I just went off and then I thought, Katie! I thought maybe, then I was like, oh don't know, my friend got it for me. And then I just went off and then I thought, I thought maybe, then I was like, oh no, that's silly.
I think he was trying to strike up a conversation.
I was pissing myself.
It's like, what drink's that?
I don't know, it's my friend's.
Thank you.
I'm not really sure.
I'm not sure.
Do you know what?
I had to beef someone on the night out as well for you.
Do you know what?
Katie is the best bodyguard ever.
So basically when we go on a night out, well for you? Do you know what? Katie is the best bodyguard ever. So basically,
when we go on a night out,
Archie's very protective.
But on the occasion that Archie's either slaughtered,
which he usually gets.
Doing the worm.
Yeah, doing the worm.
Then Katie's my bodyguard.
She comes in.
Honestly.
I am not a confrontational person.
I'm really not.
Once I've had a few drinks in me,
it's quite concerning
that I will beef anyone. How late was this off? This was, we were in the club for about half an hour I'm really not once I've had a few drinks in me it's quite concerning that
I will beef anyone
how late was this off?
this was
we were in the club
for about half an hour
and there was this one guy
that just kept circling you
so I had to keep doing
the classic like
cock block
where I'd come in behind you
and twirl you away
right
but he almost just kept
following you around
so
and he looked like
this weaselly little man
oh in a suit and some a suit? he was in a suit and he looked like this weasley little man oh in a suit and some a suit he was in a suit and he
had these black glasses on i thought honestly i was like what are you wearing like and he was just
kind of like loving life like dancing with his glasses on oh no no he looked straight up
he looked so strange and he kept and he kept like making eyes at you
kind of thing
and looking at me
being like
and I was thinking
no no no
stop that now
my friend
this is
I can't even remember
any of this
so then he kept
trying to come up
behind you intentionally
and to be honest
it was more frustration
not only for you
but for me
I was getting tired
of twirling you around
my friend
I was like
please
stop this now
every time I put you down he'd be back behind you.
I was like, oh, bloody hell.
Oh, my God.
So then I went up to him and I was like, you need to fuck off.
And I thought, Katie Leach, what did he do?
He was like, I started to panic.
I was genuinely like pointing at him, finger to chest.
I was like, you need to fuck off
really annoying me now yeah yeah it's the point on right on the sternum and it's like shit yeah
then he ran off then he ran off yeah I was like yeah that's what I thought I was so drunk that
night I was loving life I will tell you though it was so the music brilliant it was so good you know when you're in a club and it's like
song after song after song
flowers came on and it was like every song was a vibe every song do you know what's funny is
kitty's anthem is flowers by miley cyrus you listen to it all the. So you could tell how drunk she was that it came on in the club.
And we were like, Kizzy, it's your song.
And you were like.
What?
What's that?
You're like.
And I was literally dancing, like trying to listen to what it is.
And it was like.
What?
We were good.
I was like.
I don't want this in.
The best bit was we were.
We got out of the club.
And then our group got split up.
So then we were, we were trying to, I was trying to signal across this dance floor.
It was so busy.
But the security guard thought it was one of the other girls that we were with that was making like flapping around.
But truth be told, it was me. So I'm flapping around and this security guard grabs her other friend from behind,
escorts, and he's like, you gotta go, you've gotta go, he's like none of this, and he literally
manhandles her and takes her out the club. And I was howling, I was like what are you doing?
I walked on earth and she was like why are you being so... Shit! It was my favourite thing though
was when we
get so we got out of the club we were waiting for everyone and bless you we needed to get you in a
taxi and get you back someone hit me it was like it was the sea air it was the force field i was
inside loving life not recognizing any songs but you know making the words up yeah then i got out
boom i was like looking around and i i i honestly was like i'm gonna
bomb yeah there's nothing worse as well when you kind of get to that point right right we need to
get you in a taxi so we're sat there like on the beach um waiting to get a taxi organized and there
are these people on the beach with boxes full of these awful looking sandwiches we were walking
up and down the beach right these people were walking up and down the beach, no these people were walking up and down the beach selling... Oh that's alright. No, no, boring you are.
We were sat on the beach, we were like let's get Kit in the taxi, let's go back and
these guys are like bocadillo and I was like no thank you, no, no thank you.
You're obviously gluten-free as well. So then we sat there and... Take it seriously guys.
And he sat there and he's like shoving these sandwiches
in our face
like
bocadillo
and I'm like
no
what's a bocadillo
it's a sandwich in Spanish
alright
yeah you didn't realise
you were the Ronaldo
over it
no I didn't
I was honestly
I was the translator
of the trip
bocadillo
he was like
bocadillo
and I was like
no sir
no
they looked
disgusting
I wonder how much they charged for them.
I know actually one of the girls we were with did get one,
but I don't remember how much they charged.
I should have asked.
Oh, I wonder.
But she said it was like pate.
Like dry bread pate.
That's revolting.
That's not really what you want on a night out, is it?
You want your chips.
You want your nuggies.
You do not want pate bread. You do not want patty bread.
You do not.
Patty bread.
It was bad.
That's revolting.
Okay.
So on the theme of merging families on holiday.
Yes.
I'm going to ask you, what do you think is appropriate? Because Arch and I, we have really done a scale.
We've done our own thing when it comes to relationships.
You know, people say, it should take this amount of time to do.
And we've done our own thing.
Your love story is truly beautiful.
Our love story is pretty special.
Pretty special.
But you have to follow if you want to hear it, guys.
You have to listen to our TikToks.
Subscribe and download.
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Come on.
This isn't all for free
waste of your
time here
what do you
think is the
when would you
feel comfortable
with your
boyfriend's
family
okay wait
this is
hypothetical
okay
this is
this is
hypothetical
yeah
because all
the men
aren't there
you know
this one's
single
this this
is hypothetical
because I am
in the trenches
you're single right now i'm a single girl so you've been with your boyfriend let's say
let's say you were seeing him for two months yeah and he asked you to be his girlfriend
after the two months and you're like like, great. Yeah. You're now on to your third month.
What's the appropriate time to go on holiday?
With the family.
With the family.
When would you accept it?
When would you be like, I'd love to?
Or, and when, at what point would you be like,
I'm not sure. With their family or with both families?
With their family.
Oh, okay.
Because just for context,
Arch and I are two years in now.
So I...
Well, I had a family holiday booked
with my ex-boyfriend,
but that had to get cancelled.
That's the awkward thing.
What, as in you were supposed to go on his?
Yeah, I was booked on.
Yeah, I paid for it and everything.
Why didn't you just
go and we never made it no no who did he bring his girlfriend piss off yeah they went that's feral
isn't it feral that's feral the worst thing is is he offered to pay me back i was like i don't want
your pity money and i was like actually i don't i was like don't make a pity but if you could
try to spit it out it would be really good if you could transfer it out, it would be really good.
If you could transfer it.
No, but that's the only thing that sets me.
Maybe it was because we booked it in, like, March for August,
and then we broke up in March.
Oh, God, that's so bad.
It was absolutely iconic.
I was like, yes, I won't there so how long and how long had you been
together about six seven okay point yeah it was quite it was close to the end so i mean the but
i probably would have done earlier maybe a short amount of time for example like if we oh we're
gonna go on holiday we're gonna go on a city break for like a long weekend please come i would go
okay if it's like we we're going to do two weeks
at a resort somewhere,
I would probably say a year.
I think more than anything,
a year,
100%.
And more than anything as well,
it tests your own relationship.
Oh, absolutely.
So I think prior to going
with the family,
you need to do one
with your partner.
Because if you haven't done
one with your partner,
I mean,
Arch and I, we're very lucky.
We've had a few holidays,
so we knew what each other were like. We knew if we liked to see stuff
or if we liked to chill.
So we're very much on the same wavelength.
We've got it in the bag.
We're fine.
However, if you're three months in, let's say,
and fucking delusional,
and you're like, yeah, let's just go to Paris.
And then you're like, no idea of what it's going to be like. You're going to have... let's say, and fucking delusional. And you're like, yeah, let's just go to Paris.
And then you're like, no idea of what it's going to be like.
You're going to have, no, you're not.
Because we're positive thinkers, aren't we?
Yeah.
Who are we to judge?
Do you know what, at the end of the day, who are we to judge?
Who are we to judge?
But that is a huge criteria.
You kind of have to suss that out.
I mean, it's like, obviously obviously i want to know what people think
though what does what do other people say yeah let us know guys because i think i would definitely
say a year but it depends as in a year with him or a year until the family a year a year with him
oh wow i would say a year with him shit so you wouldn't go on a holiday before a year
I would say a year with him.
Shit, so you wouldn't go on a holiday before a year?
Oh, no.
I would go... Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That's a good dress up.
Good girl.
Yeah, he's like, I would love to just go to Wales.
I'm afraid.
I'm like, no.
No.
I would, no.
With family, I would wait a year.
I think holiday-wise, I think it would probably be maybe three months, four months.
Okay.
It depends how much you see each other as well, though.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
Because it's different in the sense that going on holiday is a big test for couples because
you're almost like trialing living together, whereas you and Archie already live together.
Yeah.
Still a different environment, though, isn't it?
Of course it's different, isn't it?
You experience so many different things.
Who's going to organise?
What time are you getting up?
When I'm on holiday, I want to embrace the day.
Absolutely.
So if you're sleeping in, that's going to annoy me. Yeah. It's going to really annoy me. Because I'll be want to embrace the day absolutely so if you're sleeping in that's gonna annoy me yeah it's gonna really annoy me because I've been wanting to embrace the day I would say
even even a year in I would only really do a few days okay if but for example if they're like we're
gonna go to Disneyland I'd be like okay like I can. That would be scary. Yeah, yeah. Disneyland is an experience.
Yeah.
And that's a long amount of time,
similar to if you did a resort and stuff like that.
It's completely different holidays, isn't it?
It depends on kind of what you're doing.
And the environment.
Because say if you're staying in, like, a house,
then you're on top of each other constantly.
That's scary.
Whereas if you're in a hotel, you've got your own space,
you've got your own time, you've got your own meet-up points.
Oh, we're just going to go back to our room and chill for a bit.
Let's all meet at three at this point and we'll go.
When you're all in a shared space,
it's almost like you feel like you should be utilising that time altogether.
Yeah, that's scary.
I mean, Barcelona, we spent loads of time together.
I mean, it was a miracle, actually. We were a group of ten. Yeah, that's going. I mean, Barcelona, we spent loads of time together. I mean, it was a miracle, actually.
We were a group of 10.
Yeah, a big group.
We found an Airbnb
that could accommodate us.
Yeah, yeah.
And that was just brilliant
because we were so close
to where the boys needed to be
for their marathon.
I mean, what a day.
I know, I know.
What a day.
I'm so proud of them.
I know, they did so well,
didn't they?
I hate looking at their ass, actually.
I'm done now. Yeah, I'm done now. I'm so proud of them I know they did so well didn't they I hate wicking their ass I know I'm done now I'm done now
I've said well done too much
so on the holiday theme
on the holiday
Airbnb
yeah
hotel
or
villa
villa
I would say for cities
hotel
okay
so city
we've got
Airbnb yeah no city you said hotel city I said hotel I would say for cities, hotel. Okay. So city, we've got Airbnb.
Yeah.
No, city, you said hotel.
City, I said hotel.
Purely because I think it's just a place to crash.
Yeah.
I think Airbnbs would be more for relaxing.
They have more amenities to relax and stuff.
Whereas if I'm in a city break, I want to be out exploring exploring i only want the hotel room just to sleep in yes yeah i don't really care that there's
like not a kitchen do you know what i mean so hotel city break love it we're going abroad abroad
villa villa get me in the villa tanning me in the villa. Tallying on the sun loungers. Villa, villa. What would you rather?
Hotel, villa, Airbnb?
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm very similar to you, Katie Leach,
that I agree with the city break,
I'd like to be in a hotel.
Yeah.
And actually, so when I went to Venice,
we stayed in an Airbnb and it was gorgeous.
It was really nice.
It was really central. Lovely. So it was perfect to be able to nip in an Airbnb, and it was gorgeous. It was really nice. It was really central.
Lovely.
So it was perfect to be able to nip out and do stuff and then come back.
Amazing.
However, it would have been nice to be in a hotel to have a bit of the luxury.
The robe?
Yeah, because with the Airbnb, we were in Venice for maybe five days,
so not long at all.
Yeah, yeah.
But you come back, and it's's all you don't get the luxury
of a hotel you walk in as a concierge hello honestly what i'm saying is i want them to clean
my room yeah i want to come back to a made bed yeah yeah i want to come back to fresh water next
to my bed yeah and and you know a really nice hot shower you You know, that kind of stuff. So I would say as well, a short break, love to be in a hotel.
I would love it.
I would absolutely love it.
And then with a warm environment, it's got to be a villa.
Got to be.
Did I tell you about my hairdresser?
No.
Oh, my God.
It's my hairdresser.
I was talking to him about loads of stuff.
They're great for chit-chat, aren't they?
Oh, they are, aren't they?
And he was telling me that as well well as being amazing at hair he's
also a makeup artist oh my god he's been paid to go to the maldives to do a celebs wait for it
wedding and so the maldives was five six days and he's doing like 300 makeup and hair with other people for all the guests. The celebs that have
the wedding,
there it is,
they're buying an island.
No,
they've rented an island
for them and all the guests.
And then another island
for all the...
Stuff.
Stuff.
No way.
I know.
That's what I'll be doing.
Yeah.
That's what I'll be doing.
That's what I want to be doing. That's ridiculous. Isn't it? I love that. I know. That's what I'll be doing. Yeah. That's what I'll be doing. That's what I want to be doing.
That's ridiculous.
Isn't it?
I love that.
I love it.
I absolutely love that.
And he was like,
I need to sign an NDA
and then here I am
on the podcast
talking to you about it.
Oh my God.
No, but isn't it funny
when it's like,
oh my God,
like who's makeup
are you going to do?
And he's like,
I can't,
I've signed an NDA.
Curiosity.
He's like,
who is it?
Tell me.
I know.
That's crazy.
I know.
Isn't that so exciting? I'd love to have a big shindig like that. That's crazy. I know. Isn't that so exciting?
I'd love to have a big shindig like that.
That's the definition of just an epic holiday.
You'd want to be a guest at that wedding.
For sure.
You would.
For sure.
You would want to be on there.
Absolutely.
I think we should go on to one of our segments.
Oh, go on.
The weekly ick.
Oh, great.
Okay.
now,
I think that
You get an ick
with a lot.
I get
big,
I get lots of icks
that I could probably
look past.
Not ick icks.
I think it's very easy
for me to get
icked out big time.
Oh, yeah.
But, I was thinking the amount of times Kitty and I will see something and go,
oh, that's a bit of an ick, isn't it?
Oh, God, that's a bit of an ick.
Oh, goodness.
Oh, ick.
It just has to be on the pod.
Yeah.
Where we talk about a little ick.
100%.
Anything that we've seen this week that you're like,
you're like, oh, that's so're like oh okay so i've got mine yeah
100 and as soon as i saw it i was like i'm telling katie oh my god okay so i got the ick and it wasn't
actually from um archie it was from my dad i'm so sorry dad but i got the phrase i know he couldn't
but i did i was like dad that's the ick so on the aeroplane
he was sat in front of us
wasn't he
yeah
as he got into the seat
it's even better
because he's bold
but as he got
oh god
I think I'm fat
as he got into the seat
he hit his head
on the compartment
above him
and burst him because
he's so British, there's no
there's no acknowledgement at all
he just, boom, hit his head
and then just sat down
and I was like
what is this?
and he was looking at you and I looking
at each other like, what the fuck
the people across were looking like
like that, and he didn't he didn't
say anything and i was like that's the end why are you saying anything if i was like oh and then
just being like like i was so giving yourself like that if he hit his head he was like oh gosh
then we'd all be like yeah yeah but he hit his head and he's like he just hit his head he's like
like yeah yeah yeah but he hits his head and he's like he hits his head and he's like
gets into his seat i was just that was like i knew i had to talk to you about that oh can you remember that moment
i do yeah yeah and i was like but why did why do people do that they're like he did not he didn't
acknowledge it at all i thought i he did not he didn't acknowledge it
at all
I thought I was coming in
no I didn't
well come on
get your headphones on
yeah so
join in
oh
I know
I was like
why aren't you
saying anything
oh
that was great
what was your ick
my ick
to start off with
and will always be
oh god
I saw a lot of people when we're getting the train back
um from gatwick do i know this one yes i you i mentioned it before but i saw someone do it and
it reignited my ear okay go on where someone was running we were on the train and someone's running
to get on but the doors have already shut so they're banging on the
door to be like trying to hit the button to open and obviously it just starts moving away
and they're like and you see them get really frustrated and i'm thinking calm down that is
embarrassing i think especially in london there is no reason why you should be running for a train
like if i was on a date with someone and we
were getting the train somewhere and they hear it coming, quickly, and he runs and misses
it. Oh God, that would do it. So if you ran for it and got on it, would that give you
the ick? A little bit, yeah. I think I don't, unless you're desperate to get home get home you're like I've got to get home and
I've got to make this train there is no reason why you should be running okay it's so silly oh
Katie and I I've got done a classic with it though before you you would have given every we gave
everyone the air this was really this was so bad I can't even remember why did we have rucksacks on? I, were we, were we just, why did we have rucksacks on?
Why did we, I'm like, I'm trying to explain the story, but I'm like, what happened?
Like, Dora the Explorer.
Katie and I were running from this train, running.
And it was the tubers, like, that's silly.
And we, we were, yeah, do you remember what line it was?
It was in the Bakerloo.
It was the Bakerloo, right.
So Katie and I are getting on this train.
Starts going.
Katie and I run through the door shutting.
We get caught!
We get caught in the doors.
We get caught in the doors.
And we're like this.
Trying to get balls out.
We couldn't get through.
Everyone's watching us.
One of us gets through.
I get, was it me?
You got stuck.
And then I couldn't, I tried to open the doors with my hands.
I was trying to like manhandle the doors.
You get through and then I'm still stuck
and I'm like, help, help!
And Katie's like pulling these doors
and she's like, yeah!
And she's like, you're doors. And she's like, yeah. And she's like, you're fully, like, making the noise.
And I was like, like that.
And I'm like, sorry, try again.
Trying to pull through.
It was the greatest day of all.
And everyone's just staring at us.
Silence.
What is the need?
It's so embarrassing.
We literally just jumped on.
And I was sat there like, what was that?
But you know what actually didn't give me the ick about that though?
Is that we laughed when we got through.
Oh, we found it hilarious.
And because we were laughing, everyone else was laughing.
The worst thing, it was similar when, so I had a bit of an incident on the tube quite recently actually.
Oh, I love this.
And it was, I was getting on the tube
and I was on the district line
district line trains
are quite spacious
they're lovely
so I get on
oh they're the best
I get on and I'm looking
and there's no seats
and I'm also on my way to work
so I'm also like
I want to sit down
okay
I want to sit down
I want to find a seat
so
I'm not judging
the trains
the trains stop for a bit
it's good
yeah
so I'm like walking up the carriage and I a bit. He's rich. Yeah.
So I'm like walking up the carriage and I see some guy that has his legs across to his seat.
So I kind of give him a look
and he decides to move his legs for me.
What was the look?
I was kind of like...
Let me see the look.
I was more staring, just kind of like...
Like, just kind of looking and I see the seats
and then he kind of looks and he moves,
which is nice of
him so at all this point the train has stopped okay so I'm walking to the seat oh god and I'm
squatting to sit like I'm literally in the motion of sitting down the train moves I lose my balance
and I literally go fly onto the lap of this guy next to me like literally
properly sit on his lap like he's santa like he was sat there like fully not even like fall onto
him also sorry like i fully was like there to stay like i sat on his lap and then he was like
he was like oh and i was like oh did you make that noise how rude
yeah
I picked up
oh you think I'm disgusting you
yeah
oh right
I see
you should feel lucky
to have this arse in you
yeah
not pleased I've fallen
your lap so
oh I see
how lovely is that
the thing is though
he looked like he could have
been my dad
I was so embarrassed
how old was he
he was like
he looked like mid 40s
oh bless him
and I sat on his lap I gave him the fright of his life because if he was like, he looked like mid-forties. Oh, bless him. And I sat on his lap.
I gave him the fright
of his life.
Because if he was like,
young.
Oh, that would have been worse.
Oh, do you think?
Imagine if I sat
on a really fit guy's lap
on the tube
and then I'm like,
I'm so sorry.
Like, no.
Yeah, okay.
I don't think that would have
been a meet cute night.
That wouldn't have been worse.
No, it wouldn't have been
a meet cute.
It wouldn't have been.
Can you remember
what you were wearing?
I was wearing my work
like clothes. Oh. I know. Oh. like a fool like a fool but i sat down
and then i and then i had to like awkwardly slurried onto the seat because i didn't really
did you apologize i'm so sorry oh my god i'm so sorry i was pissing myself but obviously
did you laugh oh no you did it dad didn't No, I was pissing myself. I was like... But then, as I said...
Did other people see it?
Oh, so as I said, I was struggling to find a seat.
The tube was full.
It was full and everyone was just looking.
And I was like, well...
And then the worst thing is, I'm on my way to work.
I'm not going to get off the tube.
No.
And then you just sat with all these people
that have just seen what you've done for however long you're on the tube. No. And then you just sat with all these people that have just seen what you've done
for however long
you're on the tube for.
Like,
you were just sat
kind of like,
oh,
we all saw that.
You had to enter
a road like,
yeah,
just sat there like,
staring into the abyss
and everyone's just
looking at you like,
that was embarrassing.
That is so embarrassing.
That was hilarious.
Yeah.
That,
that,
because I have this toxic trait
where I think I could never
give someone the ick.
I'd love to get our other housemates
on here to put that.
I have this thing where
I get the ick so easily,
but I just think it would be...
You give me the ick
when you don't cross the roads.
That's how you give me the ick.
I wasn't inviting
the ick.
Okay, so I'm going to tell you, I'm always, I wasn't inviting the eggs. Okay,
so I'm going to tell you,
I'm always,
I never wait for the crossing,
ever.
If you're like waiting,
I'm like,
oh my God,
live life on the edge.
Live life on the edge.
Okay,
no,
actually,
if you're between the age of,
when did you finish school?
18?
Yeah.
If you're between the age
of 19
and
40,
45, Yeah. and you're not crossing the road because there's not fucking
red man green man even no it's the egg it's the and i'm like sprinting across like you
saying boy you can't stop me i'm doing mo farah and katie's like i look behind and katie's like
and i'm like i think why i think there's like, and I'm like, why?
I think there's nothing wrong with road safety here.
I think you wait for the green mango.
You don't.
You wait.
My mum always used to say, green mango.
Yeah, but how old were you at the time?
Sixteen.
What icks do I give you?
I don't because I'm unickable.
Yeah, you can't think of one, can you? I'm trying to because I'm unickable. Yeah, you've got a big one, haven't you?
I'm trying to think.
You go on.
Islands in the Stream.
Islands in the Stream!
I'm sitting down.
Yeah, just sit down. We've only offered one.
No, well, it's not the ick, but it's just something that makes me absolutely fucking howl about you.
It's when you go oopsie oh
i know kitty like when you every time you drop something i think maybe maybe i've just got a
foul mouth if i drop something i'm like for fuck's sake i'm like shit yeah my god so so rugged you
know yeah god bad girl but she a baddie baddie baddie but you drop something
and you're like
whoopsie
whoopsies
whoopsies
and I'm like
but you could be genuinely
in the worst mood ever
and you'd be like
and I'm just so annoyed
and you'll have something
in your hand
and you'll drop it
and you're like
I just don't know
whoopsies
and I'm like
do you know what that is
it's my mantra
it's my mantra in my head
saying fulfilled fulfilled fulfilled fulfilled Do you know what that is? What? It's my mantra. Yeah. It's my mantra in my head.
Saying fulfilled.
Fulfilled.
Fulfilled.
Fulfilled.
And what was the other one for this week?
Acceptance.
That's acceptance.
That is acceptance. I'm like, whoopsies.
I'm like, oh.
Accepted that.
I know, but the thing is, it's kind of giving myself the it, because it's like, I can't
control it now.
Katie told me about this a few weeks ago.
She's like, do you know you always do this?
And I was like, no. I was like, I can't control it now Katie told me about this a few weeks ago she's like do you know you always do this and I was like
no
I was like
I didn't know that
but now I'm like
you know
putting on mascara
and it's like
oh I'm like
whoopsie
oh I've done it again
I'm like why
why
I love it
it's hilarious
I love it
yeah I
I just think
there is no such thing
as an iconic comes to mind
okay
yeah
moving on I was about to say you can thing as Nick when it comes to me. Okay. Yeah. Moving on.
I was about to say you can't spell Nick in Katie,
but there's actually two letters in there.
K and I.
Ah.
So I'll leave that to the gods.
Katie Leach?
It's all Nick.
It's got the wall in there.
I do?
There's none.
Actually.
Yes, there is.
I've got I, C and K. Damn!
You look like a fool now. But I just go by Kitty, so. Kitty full stop.
Kitty full stop, so no. No. I only got I and K. Similar to me, yeah.
Questions. Questions. Tell me what you think about me.
So to introduce you to this, Katie and I are going to do questions every single week
at the end of the podcast.
Just round it off,
just give you a bit
of the cherry on top.
Yeah.
Food for thought.
Food for thought.
Yes,
that's what we want.
You've got your mantras
and you've got our
debriefing shit throughout.
Yeah.
And then at the end,
we're going to give you
a little cheeky question.
Absolutely.
Now,
each week,
we're going to have
a silly question
and we're going to have
a serious question.
Yeah.
The silly questions, there is no limit.
The silliness goes to whatever you want it to be.
You're just getting a peek into our lives.
You're getting a peek into our lives.
Absolutely.
And then we have a serious question to do with relationships, to do with career, to do with living in London, to be with nights out, all of it.
And this week, we're going to swap it up every week, just to let you know.
Yeah.
This week, what was our decision, Katie?
What are you taking?
I'm taking serious.
Oh, yes.
Good.
All right.
Well, kick it off.
Katie's serious.
I'm silly.
Go on.
Would you move across the country, actually, not even across the world if your partner got their dream job but it would mean you having to sacrifice your job fuck at this age at this age let's say
they're moving to this is hypothetical as well don't worry archie't cry. I'll get a text. This is hypothetical, but I would say,
let's say your partner gets a job
and he has to move to Mexico for a year.
It's his dream job.
It's what he wants.
But I have to move as well?
You have to come with,
but it means that you wouldn't really be able
to continue with your job in the capacity that you would like to.
You could probably do little bits and bobs, but you wouldn't be able to, like...
Is it a must that I have to go?
Let's say it's a... Like, would you go?
No. I'm not going to Mexico. Fuck that. For a year? Are you joking me?
No, I'll stay here. I love London.
Would you split your time? Would you try and like...
Yeah, of course I would.
Would you do like a month on?
Yes, I would definitely try to split my time.
Like, I'm a compromising queen.
I'm all about that.
But I, at this age, we're both very young.
I would not be able to justify giving up my career
and my ambitions for a year to be doing more.
Yeah. Yes, I would miss him dearly. a year to be doing more. Yeah.
Yes, I would miss him dearly.
I'd miss him so much.
Yeah.
But, you know, we've got FaceTime, we've got all of those kind of things.
So doing a month on, a month off would be a lot better.
But if you're saying to keep the relationship, is that what you're saying?
Let's do that option as well.
So, yeah, if you don't go, that's it no i'd go then i'd have to
oh would i yes i'd have to go yeah i would be upset as to where those circumstances come from
yeah if he was like if you don't come we're breaking up then i'd be like oh my god that's
quite fickle yeah you think why are you being fickle why are you being fickle because yeah
as we could last being away from each other. I know we could.
Yeah, absolutely.
We'd hate it.
We'd miss each other dearly.
Yeah.
But I know we could last.
So I'd be like,
well, why are you making these consequences?
Yeah.
Why are you giving me an ultimatum?
It is more of the fact that it's like,
there should never be an ultimatum.
No.
Ever.
If it's like,
you either come with me or with,
well, actually, maybe maybe i don't know circumstances
but if something like that be like why couldn't this work yeah yeah yeah that's hard because it's
so different depending on circumstance and where you are in your lives yes and um my parents have
done it for each other my dad did it first for my mum.
My mum was more established.
So they moved to Australia.
And then they started there.
My dad started a new career there.
But my mum has equally done it for the last few years for my dad.
Now my dad is the one that's working and she's not.
It's all compromise, isn't it? It's all about compromise.
Of course it is.
So, but they were in a very, they were in a very different place.
My mum was older and so was my dad, whereas we're very young.
Yes.
And so I would find that hard.
I would also find it very hard that my mum moved there as well because all of her family was there.
Yes.
And there was some stability there.
Whereas if we're moving to Mexico, who do I have?
There's no one in Mexico.
Yes, I have Arch and that's amazing.
But I would be so much more supported if I was here supporting him.
Yes.
Because I have my friends, I have my family,
I have a community around me.
Yeah, great answer.
Yeah.
Great answer.
Thank you.
And how about you?
Could you?
I think similarly I would find that quite hard.
Yeah.
Like, again, why put the pressure on the situation?
If it's going to work, it is going to work.
I think with long distance, it is hard, but it's not impossible.
And I think if you both want it enough, it will just work.
Didn't you say, wasn't it that Ryan Reynolds, when he was filming Deadpool?
I think they were filming in Australia.
Yeah.
He came back every weekend to see his wife and kids.
Oh.
Yeah.
Is this the one with Blake Lively?
Yeah. Oh, I love them. Like, he was like, if you want to make wife and kids. Oh. Yeah. Is this the one with Blake Lively? Yeah.
Oh, I love them.
Like, he was like, if you want to make the time, you will.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I think I'm very much of that.
Like, not that if you want to. What is it?
If he would.
If he wanted to, he would.
That's the one.
If he wanted to, he would.
Which is.
And I'd be so willing to, like, go anywhere.
Oh, my God.
I would walk if I have to, to see him.
Do anything to keep the relationship going.
Because I would never want to lose him.
But I think you're also, a relationship is two individuals.
Yeah.
And I think it's hard that if you're doing something like that for him,
you're kind of then putting yourself onto his identity and his work.
Where's my identity? And then you kind of then putting yourself onto his identity and his work and then where's my identity
and then you kind of lose yourself as a person and that's when it gets sticky where you don't
like you don't feel as valued because you're like oh you've moved all the way over there like what's
going on but equally i would be so supportive of him so say if he said you know i've got this huge
job opportunity and i'm gonna have to be in america or I don't know um Italy I'd say 100% go for
it and I'd be very much inclined to go visit him great holidays yeah great time together you know
but I would also push that there's no no we need to be I'm strong enough in my relationship that
that would not concern me yes yes I'd be so upset to leave him yeah but and for
him to leave me but i think it's only a good thing yeah to to further his career yeah yeah and i hope
that i'm i'm positive that he would say the same absolutely okay now it's mine right mcneil this
is a really hard one like you're gonna find this hard it's a what it's a would you rather i have
two things okay the first one
would you rather
you're on a night out
yeah
but you can never
ever look good
okay
and when I say look good
like you cannot put any
make
not that you don't
look good without make
for
you're not
when we get ready
for nights out
you doll up
you glam up
you do
imagine what you look like.
Choose your words carefully, Kitty McNeil.
Imagine when we were in Liverpool.
I knew you were going to say that.
Imagine that day.
And I look like that.
Yeah, every single night out.
Every single night out.
You couldn't, you couldn't put makeup on.
You couldn't even get waxed.
You couldn't shave just in case the powerpuff came out.
Nothing.
Nothing.
You couldn't wear your nice top.
I know.
I'd go out like I was just like chilling at home.
Yeah, yeah.
No, not chilling at home because you look gorgeous chilling at home.
Yeah.
Like the worst version of you, okay?
Okay. That's the first scenario. Yeah. Like the worst version of you, okay? Okay.
That's the first scenario.
Yeah.
Or, would you rather you're out and you're clubbing, but you can't hear anything?
You can't hear any music.
And when I say anything, you can't even hear what people are saying.
So you're like, and people are like chatting to you and you're like, you can't.
You can't. And it's not because like you've got bad hearing. to you and you're like, you can't.
And it's not because like you've got bad hearing.
Like you literally go into a club, boom, every single noise shuts off.
So as soon as I come out the club, I can hear things.
So you're saying if I went into the smoking area.
No, there's no, there's no, no, no, no.
I saw what you were trying to do.
I saw what you were trying to do there, but no.
There's no noise in the smoking area either
that you can't talk
there's nothing
even
there's like
boom
boom
boom
the beat
you can't feel the beat
so everyone's like
I love this song
you're like
what
I love this song
what
they're like
never mind
you can't hear the song
you can't hear what they're saying
you can't even
they're like
what drink do you want?
You're like, hmm.
Nothing.
We go to the toilet.
We debrief.
We're always debriefing when we're on nights out.
We debrief in the toilet.
You're like, you can't hear me.
So I'm like, oh my God, can you believe I actually said that?
Oh my God.
And you're like, said what?
And I'm like, it's my...
It's hard, isn't it?
I would rather go out looking awful.
Wow, would you?
Because then at least I could try and woo them with my stellar personality.
Yes.
Would I be able to lip-breed?
No.
Harsh little friend.
So you'd rather take looking like Liverpool?
Full time.
I'll see if I'm in the mood to insert a picture, guys,
of what I look like in Liverpool.
Actually, go on to Audrey's Instagram.
Yeah.
It was not pretty.
I would probably rather go out comfortable
in the sense that I'd be aware of what's going on and be
loving life loving life you just get slaughtered with both your scenarios we've got to remember
you could be slaughtered so it's equally as good equally as good I think I would opt for the first
option I think at the end of the day this personality win anyone over and then they'll be like
remember that munter
you got with last night
but she had a cracking
personality
I'd be like
because boys say that
yeah
boys love her
I don't know what I'd pick
because a lot of the
clubbing for me
now that I'm
in a relationship
is the songs
when I was single
was about the men
it was
it was all about the men
I was like
it was no case it was I'd the men yeah I was like it was
no Katie it was
I'd go in
and I'd be like
now I'm in a relationship
it's about the music
so for me now
I think I'd rather take
looking like a munter
yeah
so I can hear the music
but then again like
I don't know how I
I could pull
if I couldn't hear anything
you don't need to
oh in a sense of like hear hear anything. You don't need to.
Oh, in a sense of hear them.
Yeah.
But you might not need to.
You can see them.
I'm just like... Give a little cheeky wink.
Let's see your wink.
Can you wink?
Oh, it's quite...
It's quite good, actually.
Would you ever wink at anyone?
Absolutely not.
Oh, no, that's bad.
No, I can't do that. I don't have... Your wink capacity. No, I can't do that.
I don't have...
Your weak capacity.
No, I don't have that to pull off.
Yeah, I could easily play this off.
Yeah, no, easy.
First one.
I'd rather look like shit,
make up a convoluted lie
as to why I look like shit
that's pretty funky and cool.
For example,
I literally just landed...
I probably put on Australian accent or something.
I just landed from Australia. And like, I literally just landed. I probably put on an Australian accent or something. I just landed from Australia.
And, like, I've never been here.
I'm just, I came straight off the flight and had to get to the party.
Oh, okay.
And then they'd be like, oh, that makes sense.
And then the more they speak to me, the more beautiful I look.
Okay.
Because after that, you can look gorgeous.
Oh.
After that, you go back to the house fine.
As soon as you leave that environment, you look great.
Easy.
Easy. Love it. Have you heard back from that environment, you look great. E-Z.
Love her.
Have you heard back from that guy,
by the way,
that date?
Oh my God,
no, guys.
So I had a date.
Well,
wait,
before we,
when did we say
we'd start?
1.30?
Yeah.
It's going to have
to be next week.
Guys,
you're going to have
to hear about this
next week.
You're going to have
to hear about my date
next week.
You're going to have to,
this will be a cliffhanger.
To be fair, we're still not sure if we're going on it or not.
Right, guys.
Right, well, that's it.
I absolutely hope that you've had an absolutely fabulous time like we have.
Oh, absolutely.
Come back more for mantras, for debriefs, for questions of the week.
And we want to help you guys debrief.
Yeah, we do.
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what to fucking do
what's going on
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