The Debrief - Habits, Hurdles & Holiday Plans | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: April 8, 2024

Welcome back to The Debrief! With spring in full swing, we are discussing all things habits. How to keep them, how to break them and answer your dilemmas along the way! As always be sure to DM us on i...nstagram @the.debriefpodcast or email: hello@thedebriefpodcast.co.ukHave an amazing week, K+K x Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 welcome to the tea breeze here we are here alas here ye here ye another day another day all right we're here right i found myself recently being going like life right life right like i'm just like yeah you are am i right that program what is that program called jess what's it oh new girl so jess i am the first time i ever watched it i was actually in halls oh my god and i remember watching it and i was like i've literally met this girl she lived across from me i you will say if anyone's watched the program katie is just no because i'm telling you i'm just your cc you are cc oh my god yeah we could put an archie schmidt as much he doesn't want to think he wouldn't want to say that but he is he is it's actually the reality of like coming to what you are
Starting point is 00:01:06 versus what you want to be. Like my dad always, so I've been watching Modern Family more recently. Oh. And it reminded me, my dad always wanted to be Jay. He was like, oh, guys, if I was in Modern Family, I'd be Jay, wouldn't I? Like I'd be Jay.
Starting point is 00:01:19 And we'd all flip around like, are you Jay? You are Phil Dunphy. Isn't my dad the definition? He is Phil. He's Phil. He's Phil. But it's kind of scary that now i'm dating a fella as well because archie's a phil but hey let's skimp on that let's skimp on that so tell me how your day was oh my god do you know what uh should we say how your week was yeah let's do that yeah tell me how your week was you know what this week this week's been ebbs and flows i'm kayaking down that river.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Do I come across a little rock? Yeah, I do. But fucking dickheads doesn't get the better of me. A little splash in my boat, but do you know what? That dries off. Oh, it does. So I've been taking it day by bleeding day. And I'm feeling calm. I'm feeling collected. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I'm feeling gorgeous. Lovely. I feel a bit frazzled i feel like i look quite frazzled today i'm kind of like you're so sweet i always say casey's got a retching retching resting bitch face and when i literally just came into the podcast union out her face like a slapped ass and she saw me and she went like a big smile like that's so sweet like it made my day oh it's so nice when you like see someone off guard they're like oh how's your week been oh really interesting so I was literally just on the train yeah and
Starting point is 00:02:34 and there was this guy sat next to me and he dropped an airpod like one of his airpods I was like oh god so like I scooted like a bear and then kind of, it was literally underneath me. So I had to get it for him and got up and gave it to him. And he was like, ha, you fell for it. And I was like, pardon? I was like, it's not April 1st anymore, my dickhead. I was like, oh, like I literally just went, ah. Cause I was like, what are you on about now?
Starting point is 00:03:00 For what? And he was like, I dropped it so you'd pick it up. And then he like put out his hand. He was like, hi charlie i was like get the fuck out i was like oh you're waxy airport you get that you fell for it what dropping it you fell for it dropping an airport what me just trying to be a good fucking human being save you spending a hundred quid on one air pod you mug but also what an absolute loser because imagine if i didn't pick it up oh my god oh my god he's like okay so like i'll throw it now yeah i'll throw it what if he threw it and it bounced over to some other woman oh my god or what about if he threw it and the doors opened it went down the crack yeah
Starting point is 00:03:40 should have done karma should have got the better of him there. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But my week's been good. I've been happy. I've been jollying along. I'm going on holiday soon. So I'm like, and I found out I'm going to go on another holiday in May. So I'm like, yay!
Starting point is 00:03:54 Gorgeous! So I'm going skiing in April. Yeah. And then I'm going to Albania in May. Life's hard. Life's really... Life, eh? Life, eh?
Starting point is 00:04:04 Life, eh? Life's been tough recently so i need oh my god that's gorgeous i know and i literally looked up because arch was like we're going to albania back a group of friends amazing that we always go on holiday with every year and i was like oh my god did i tell you by the way it's quick side note debriefers the four of us planning a holiday did you know that the boys are like talking about options where we're going oh delightful i know i was like let me know where where and when so you're like no i'm all holiday now what a shame oh but i was like fantastic i'll tell peach i was like no my god oh yeah turn up with our suitcases if they can organize something yeah yeah i'm a woman who just shows up
Starting point is 00:04:39 not even with my bag i prefer someone carries it that time actually where you me and oh my god friend had to go to the airport and it was the first time me carrying my bag. I prefer when someone carries it. Remember that time, actually, where you, me and our friend had to go to the airport and it was the first time me carrying my bag and I was like, oh, it's such a hullabaloo. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I saw a TikTok actually and it's like when, and I was going to tag you in it. It's like when there's that, there are two types of friends at the airport, one who has everything ready and the other one
Starting point is 00:05:01 that's wandering along just for the jolly. I'm like, guys, I'm like guys i'm like we need to be at gate this at this time so we best leave 40 minutes ahead and you're like just tell me where and when i'll just be with you keeping you company just just keeping the good vibes going i'll be there with you so tell me what your mantra is of this week my mantra is you are doing better than you think lovely yes okay is this referring to the tap breakdown? This is referring to the tap breakdown.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Guys, I wouldn't say I'm an anxious person. I actually wouldn't. I think I'm actually... No, you wouldn't. I haven't, you know, I'm pretty chilled out. Yeah. I had what I can only think was a full-on panic attack. Oh, darling.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Over tap. Darling. Tap shoes. Oh, but it's not that it's the pressure like everyone else is doing it and it's one of those you feel you're the only one that can't oh i was mortified and you know what it's one of those things that it's so glaring obvious when you go wrong because it's all beats so if you yeah so if you miss a beat there's just no sound can you just can you do that again the shoe fantastic it's all it's all like
Starting point is 00:06:05 so if you miss it or if you go too quick or you land somewhere it sounds off when it sounds off it's fucking jarring and when it sounds off everyone can know who it came from and everyone's like oh yeah and you're like yeah and it was just very stressful i was in stress i was so stressed so tell me your mantra again. You are doing better than you think. Yeah. I feel like, I feel like I'm in the throes.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I'm in like this. I think it's like a 15 week term we've had. We're almost at the end, but I am, I am, I am ready for a break. And I'm also telling myself I'm doing better than I think. They keep obviously amping it
Starting point is 00:06:45 up each week and I feel like I'm really like at the back of the bus yeah at the moment so I'm just trying to ease my mind oh I'm doing better than I think yes you are everything's all okay and also you've got to think that because you're overthinking everything yes people are just focusing on themselves exactly so you are doing better than you think because you think everyone thinks like shit they don't yeah no just everyone's focusing everyone's running their own race exactly yeah what's your mantra so my mantra for this week is give me a sec two phones two phones i look forward because what is coming is better than what has gone oh you're so right i'm just like i'm gonna look forward because things are happening that are exciting don't keep referring back to the past yeah you know oh but I didn't do
Starting point is 00:07:32 this quite right yeah I think it's so natural to like question yourself all the time and and and fall and feel you fell short in some way yeah but if you're like, why am I focusing on that? That's been, that's done. Yeah, yeah. No one cares about that. Yeah. I'm looking forward. What's coming next?
Starting point is 00:07:51 You know, because I'm not going to be ready for what's next if I keep looking back. Absolutely. You know? My song this week, which is kind of to do with what we're going to talk about in the podcast episode. Yeah. Is, it's out with the old and in with the new. Oh. Goodbye, skies are grey. Hello goodbye skies are gray hello skies are
Starting point is 00:08:08 blue a dip in the pool a trip to the spa and the stays in my shades the whole world according to moi excuse me thank you now i didn't need to sing the whole thing but it's I call ice cream in pot it's the best fabulous fucking brilliant Sharpay Evans High School Musical two
Starting point is 00:08:32 brilliant it's two isn't it yeah oh my god so good and I feel we're gonna be talking about this week it's all to do with Lent
Starting point is 00:08:39 so we're gonna be talking about out with the old in with the new breaking bad habits coming into your own getting the better version of yourself yes and what is talking about out with the old, in with the new, breaking bad habits, coming into your own, getting the better version of yourself. And what is better than out with the old and in with the new? You know it.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Yes. What's your song, bitch? My song this week, ultimate springtime tune. She may contain the urge to run away, but all I do is take your clothes and raised backs. Na, na, na, na. The situation is a little bit weird again. I never get to say it. So you'll never know. Ba, ba, ba, ba. Do you know where the whippings go?
Starting point is 00:09:12 What a fantastic song. Breeze Blocks. Oh, Jay, fucking sensational. And I'm like, the evenings are getting lighter. Yeah. It's getting warmer. Like, it was warm today. You're so right, though.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Why is that a spring song? Like, it's like spring, warm today right though why is that a spring song like it's like spring summer evening so yeah what is that about i i just i love it do you know i'm actually gonna do a shout out to my friend here oh yeah archer she made me we must have been like 10 yeah she made me learn this like she could do the full rap like oh you know when it goes really fast i can't remember like the, the whole song. Oh, my God. She made me sit down in an evening and look at that. And I'm like, what are my favourite memories?
Starting point is 00:09:49 And then we'd put a party and I'd be like, do you know? Like, the best thing ever. But what a great song. It's such a tune. So let's do the record recommendations this week. Yes. Is with my work, I've been, like like having lunches out i've been having like dabbling in different foods in the area and i must say my all-time favorite which the girls
Starting point is 00:10:11 will take the piss of me off because i've had it like every single day yeah farmer jay's now i'm telling you going into the out with the old in with the new yeah out with those mackeys okay out with the mackeys out with the dominoes out with the in in the farmer jays farmer jays let me tell you you can so you can like pick what certain food you want so you can pick like your base so it could be like spinach or rice or all that kind of stuff and then your main so it's like chicken or beef or whatever you want and then you have like sides so you could have like chickpea salad au aubergine salad, the sweet potatoes, like the mac and cheese. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:10:47 It's fabulous. Really good for gluten free. I would say it's on the spinny side. So I wouldn't do it all the time. All the good stuff is. Yeah, it is. But it is so nice. Oh, so I remember I've heard Farmer J's is almost like Air One.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Like, you know, in America, they have like Air One, which is like a really trendy. Everyone's like, oh, Farmer J's is like Air One, like you know in america they have like air one which is like a really trend everyone's like oh farmer jay's is like air one whole foods vibes like you want to go there and it's i've always wanted to go you would like it you'd really like it interesting girl okay should we crack on let's crack on are you ready i'm ready let's debrief lovely yes firm assertive yes we're doing it. So tell me, Peach, what are we talking about? We will be discussing the phrase,
Starting point is 00:11:30 sell with the old, in with the new. We're in springtime. Yeah, we are. The clock's gone forward. Yeah. Evenings are getting lighter. There is,
Starting point is 00:11:40 I was about to say a need for speed. No. There's like a, there's a need, there's an energy of freshness in the air. Most of this, at this point in the year, people reflect on the goals they set on January 1st.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Yeah, they usually do. There's spring cleaning. There's a motivation. There's a need to break old habits and go into the new. Completely. And I think as well, because with April, it's all about Lent. Yes. That does have a significant factor to new. Completely. And I think as well, because with April, it's all about Lent. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:07 That does have a significant factor to it. Yes. So I will quickly go over Lent. Yes. Because I think it is significant. Absolutely. Whether you're religious or not, it's something that does happen.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Yeah. And it's something that should be spoken about. So Lent is related, obviously, to Christianity to commemorate the 40 days that Jesus spent fasting in the desert and enduring temptation by Satan. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:28 But however, a lot of non-religious people do celebrate Lent. Yeah. And they do this to challenge themselves. Yeah. So they can give something up or to cleanse themselves in a way. Yes. So I think that does really translate into out with the old, in with the new. Absolutely. Because it's the breaking of an old habit completely it's breaking habits it's forming new ones and it's also like
Starting point is 00:12:52 exercising self-control as well absolutely which is a habit in itself which i think is great i think it's really good obviously you know people go far people can go far very far so we did ask the debrief wait just before that i was that, I was going to say, what was I going to say? I was going to say, oh yeah. So people do go far with them. Yeah. But I think if you can do it in a healthy way,
Starting point is 00:13:12 challenging yourself with temptations, but also with, I think mental, physical challenges are really good anyway. Yes. You know, whether you challenge yourself to do some, you know, if you don't run, to do a 5Kk or 10k or or if you mentally think you're quite negative, write a positive journal every night or once a week. Maybe that's too much. But I wanted to ask, are you going to be setting a goal this spring? Will you be doing Lent or will you be doing Out With The Old In With The New? old in with the new no I I would say it's a kind of blend of the both yeah because I would personally
Starting point is 00:13:47 like to have a bit more color on my plate oh no I want to cook more and I want to cook more nutritionally dense meals nice because I feel like yes I can say I potentially have cooked yeah what I am cooking, pretty beige. Okay. Like it's the same thing. And I also don't like variety. And I want to like variety. Like I want to have one thing on a Monday,
Starting point is 00:14:15 one thing on a Tuesday, like to have it different, not have the same meal every single day. Yeah, I get you. So that's what I'm kind of looking to do. Okay, fantastic. What about you? That's a, what do you say,
Starting point is 00:14:27 it's a mental or physical thing you're doing? I would say it's a mental thing, in all honesty. What physical kind of thing will you do? Physical thing, I would like to run more. Okay. I would like to run more. Good. I'd like to get better at tap. I'd like to not cry.
Starting point is 00:14:41 But also that is realistic because if you were like, I'm going to run every day, that's where it comes unrealistic. You know, it does come back to when we set these goals in January and we spoke about New Year's resolutions. God, that seems so... I know. How does that...
Starting point is 00:14:54 That's wackadoodle hour. That feels like yesterday. I know. But it is similar in that sense. However, I think New Year's resolutions are so big and so profound. It has to be completely changed here. Whereas what I do like about the springtime, whether it's Lent or whether it is just spring cleaning yourself,
Starting point is 00:15:12 it's more reachable, maybe realistic. Attainable. That's the key, isn't it? Because it's, you know, it's not so life-changing, which I think is really good. Yes. I think I'm going to do one, which is so childish,
Starting point is 00:15:26 like I haven't done since I was a child, but I'm going to do no chocolate for 40 days and 40 nights. I'm just not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I love it. And just because I've been loving the creme eggs. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Because there's something, there's something so comforting. I know. Especially, and I don't know why, maybe it's because Love Island, and we always have Love Island snacks, but especially as we come into like spring, summer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:51 The need for a late night sweet treat run. Oh, it's just so needed. It's so needed. It's actually a social thing now. It is a social thing. Because we're like, oh, well, let's pop to Sainsbury's. And then we can have a debrief about everyone in our lives. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Like, you know, guys, there is a debrief that goes on without you actually hearing the debrief before the debrief. Honestly. The conversations in Sainsbury's and then you're picking out what snack you want. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:16:14 And then it's like, what are you getting? Oh, okay. It's all too real. Exactly. I'm going to do it because it's funny. When you live in London
Starting point is 00:16:22 or when you move out of your family home, you are in control of what you eat what you do the exercise yeah no one's telling you to do it anymore and i'm just like what happens if that was taken away like what happens if i couldn't just grab the little choccy yes so i'm just doing it i'm not saying i'm never gonna eat chocolate again because that's unrealistic of course i am but i'm gonna try 40 days and 40 nights yeah to not have chocolate now this is balanced because I can have a little Haribo or I can have a mini twister a mini twister fruit pasta but I can't have chocolate that's fine yeah and physical I'm gonna say I'm
Starting point is 00:16:55 gonna try do more weights because I always yeah I always do so much running yeah which I love like if you said to me right now do you want to do a weight session or do a 20K? I'd be like, see, I'm doing the 20K. I just love it so much. But I do feel in order to be able to keep my running, I need to strengthen myself. It's a hard one because I literally, everyone's like, oh, runners do,
Starting point is 00:17:18 they need to do their Bulgarian split squats. And I'm like, if you make me do a fucking Bulgarian split squat. I know, I know. I think that I'm just like, oh. Weights I'm like if you make me do a fucking Bulgarian split squat I know I think that I'm just like oh weights I feel like actually because you don't get the same endorphins that you do from running I personally don't think you do I always do feel better after I've done weights I do but with running I'm like fantastic yeah like look at me go yeah but I can do it I can you can you can okay right so we are darling. We asked the debrief...
Starting point is 00:17:45 We did. ...about potentially quirky, interesting things they've given up for Lent and whether it worked. Yes. So we've got a few responses. Fantastic. Do you want to go first? You go first, darling. Oh.
Starting point is 00:17:59 So... Okay. I have one that is, I, for Lent one year, decided to give up car audio. So when driving, no music. What? No music. That's wild. No radio. That's actually cycle. And they said, they said, I did do it. I just found myself having fake arguments the entire time that I was found myself having fake arguments the entire time that I was commuting to a front walk which is so real like I do this all the time like if you're if I'm sat in silence oh I'm I'm finishing an argument I never got to finish but sometimes I'll practice one oh no no no because you need them in your back pocket I'll literally be like I'm telling you if I was home alone for a day I'd be like are
Starting point is 00:18:42 you joking me like honestly sometimes you really get no you just really get on my nerves and I'm telling you, if I was home alone for a day, I'd be like, are you joking? Like, honestly, sometimes you really get... No. You just really get on my nerves. And I'm like, who are you talking to? Oh, I... But I'm like, if you don't do this, what do you do on your own? You can't just sit in silence, surely. You actually can't just sit in silence.
Starting point is 00:18:58 You can't do that. Have you seen that thing that someone says that laughing's a social thing? That if you're in silence and you see something funny, you won't laugh because it's not for people. And I don't agree because I have. And I don't. Because I'm always like, hee hee hee. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Like, I'm always laughing. Yeah, I am. Like, if I watch a show, I'll be like, ha ha ha. Yeah. You know, I'm not just sat in silence. I'm not doing it for Arch.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I'm doing it for you. I'm doing it for myself. I'm not fucking me in back. Thank you very much. All right, let me read you one. Hey girls, sounds ridiculous, but I'm giving up my partner's nickname for 40 days and it's nice i know it sounds like scrooge but it's not out of lack of love it's because i found i only use his actual name when we have an argument and it's not
Starting point is 00:19:36 associated with me being angry oh no no sorry and it's associated with me being angry i called him his name yesterday and he turned around looking frightened. So I'm bringing it back and using his lovely name. Oh, no, sorry. That's number two. Sorry, darling. Yeah. And using his lovely name.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Obviously, we're all reeking. So we'll see how we go. But I'll keep you updated. Best of luck to me. Oh, I know. I know. I'm like, that's so interesting because i was thinking to myself i was like how much do i call arch versus nickname and i'm not gonna say i'm not gonna say it's so it's nickname
Starting point is 00:20:12 in fairness you don't do it well i don't think i do it as much as he does it no no no no we have the same nickname for each other yeah but i find it odd when I hear you say it because I'm like, whoa. I feel like you do that more behind closed doors. Yes, yes. I don't think I see his nickname.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I'm always Arch, Arch, Arch. Yeah. Arch, Arch. Like, I don't go, I can't say it. But he'll say my nickname. Yeah. But I thought that was interesting
Starting point is 00:20:41 because if you've been together as well that long and you're only calling Stephen, you're in trouble, you know that's so funny as well she's like oh steven he was like fuck yeah he's like shit himself yeah turned around frightened what's happened okay i've got for length i decided to give up gossiping strong strong i'm telling you you're not one of us i I never, never give that up. It's abusing. I got three days in,
Starting point is 00:21:08 then found out my best friend's boyfriend was cheating on her. So obviously couldn't sit on that and had to tell her. Good girl. Which I would consider gossiping. But, girl. I actually think it's a need. I don't. I do.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Do you know what? I don't understand how people go through life without gossiping it's never malicious truly it is I'm like I'm like truly
Starting point is 00:21:32 what do you discuss what do you discuss I'm telling you when I come home I'll be like you'll never fucking guess yeah tell Katie
Starting point is 00:21:39 tell Arch like I'm telling the world called my mum this afternoon at lunch time oh yeah I was like did you hear about this and she's like oh yeah I was like what did you think yeah why are you why are people not gossiping in their life no because it's actually a really good way to let off steam if
Starting point is 00:21:53 I did not have a little gossip oh I would be like fucking what's the boring life though what's the angry man from inside out and he's like oh okay that'd be me yes i would i don't get why people you know like there's someone i know that's like i hate gossiping i'm like you don't no because the thing is that there are people say they hate gossiping but still have opinions on things so i'm like so you're yeah yeah you're gossiping man is this holier than that oh i couldn't possibly i'm like but you do is it you have opinions or is it conversation because i'm like i see that purely as conversation i see this purely as a debate is different but gossiping is convoy discussing current events actually in in a philosophical manner exactly providing all angles to the debate yeah i don't see any
Starting point is 00:22:42 issue there's no issue with that no grow up people okay this is a fantastic one this girl said so i'm giving up sex for a while fuck not gonna lie i've had lots of it and not great quality so i'm trying to remind myself that i've that it's quality over quantity because at the moment all i have is a lack of pleasure, a high body count and an STD. Oh, girl. I know. And do you know what? It's good that we're a weekend.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Let's see how this goes. Oh, brilliant. We'll see. We'll see. Good luck, darling. You've got this. I feel like you hit a certain point, speaking from experience, that the need for it does go.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Really? There's like a i feel like actually if you're shagging someone regularly the first month of not shagging them terrible you're literally like what the fuck climbing the walls yeah but then once you get past that month marty thought oh well you're so funny i've simply forgotten funny. I've simply forgotten. I've forgotten. I would have liked to be touched by a man. I've simply forgotten. Honestly, like when she said that, she was like, I'm giving up sex. I think she's single by the sounds of it, hopefully. I think it's easier to do, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Otherwise, tell your partner you've got an STD. But I'm like, I'm like worried for now. I was thinking to myself, could I go 40 days and 40 nights without sex? And I was like, embarrassingly, I don't think I could. Like if I even if you were single, I don't think I could really try to challenge myself if I the ultimate challenge will not be all too exciting. That's really bad. But one of the biggest challenges if someone was like, you can't have sex for 40 days and 40 nights, or even without Len, if you can't have sex for a while, I'd be like, I'd find that hard.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Yeah. But equally, I sleep next to my boyfriend every night. Yeah. Like, let's get it on. And I'm like, no. But I would actually be concerned if Audrey was like, I'm going on a sex ban. I would take that so personally. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't blame going on a sex spam. I would take that so personally. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:24:47 I wouldn't blame you for taking that personally. I would take it so personally. I'd be like, oh, you hate me. I'd be like, why? Why though? Why though? You get it for free every night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:56 What are you doing? That's so fucking stupid. Yeah. I would be scared. I'd be scared. That would be terrifying. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Have you got another? I have. I decided after seeing all the cold plunging, to not get a cold plunge bath, but to give up hot showers. So I only had cold showers for 40 days and 40 nights. Still only have cold showers now. True combat.
Starting point is 00:25:24 No way! Now, we had a short experience of this when our hot water went for a month. Yeah, we did do this. I didn't love it, guys. No. I did not love it. But it was during the winter, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:25:35 Was it during the winter? I actually think it was around this... I don't think it was... If it was winter, I think I would have been sent into a spiral. Oh. Where did that go? Sorry, guys, my ring. Thanks, darling. So it wasn't winter? I don't know why I got to myself to think it was if it was winter i think i would have been sent into a spiral oh you did that go sorry guys
Starting point is 00:25:45 my ring thanks darling so it wasn't winter i think it was like i think it was like september time so it was getting it was like autumn but it was still quite hot okay because i remember sometimes i was quite thankful for it oh really well i'm telling you as soon as that hot water tap came back on i was like shower me honey oh i would rather be scolded yeah yeah yeah yeah then i come out the shower like a prawn oh i like to be warm yeah i love good in the cold no the the cold showers i feel like i got not used to but it was washing your hair that was the worst do you know what it was it was the lack of your breath. It was like when you have to run in the wind. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Like I had no breath. I was like, it was really fucking scary. No, no, no. Okay, so I've got another one. Oh, yeah. This says, okay, this is really interesting. Full disclosure, my ex-boyfriend and I broke up three years ago. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:42 And I have a new boyfriend of a year and a half but I still wear my ex's hoodie as I love it not because of him or because of his smell or because I miss him just because I love the jumper but I did find myself wearing it and feeling guilty so i took i so i put a ban on wearing it for a while then when i found it again it was at the bottom of my wardrobe and i felt so guilty like i cheated on him so as i was driving back from starbucks yesterday i took it off i put it back on moment of weakness and pulled up on the side of the road and threw it in the bushes now the badgers can snuggle on it oh my god that's a hard one because i personally now well i remember when i got with arch i still have my ex's hoodie and i remember he was like i think it's time i was like okay i
Starting point is 00:27:42 wasn't wearing it though no this is it's a hard one because i personally don't see an issue in me wearing an ex-boyfriend's hoodie because i don't have any attachment to it however if my boyfriend constantly wore an item that his ex-girlfriend got him i'd be like yeah yeah you read into it you would you would read into it. You would. You would read into it. But I think the fact that she was feeling guilty, like, looking at me like, oh, shit. Yeah, oh, bless. But imagine three years ago, she was a year and a half in,
Starting point is 00:28:12 she's snuggling each night, like... Hilarious. That is hard. Hilarious. Okay, so we're going to... We've talked about these bad habits that people are getting rid of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Or trying to, fingers crossed, for some of them. Yeah. And we're going to talk about how we can do that and how we can stick to them yes so my first one was to whatever your habit is i feel it was the best way to get rid of it or to stop it is to decrease it in a very small way yes so i'm not saying go what's it called cold turkey no do a cold yeah yeah so let's say let's say it is the chocolate thing yeah i'm not gonna eat chocolate i'm not saying it's like you're not cutting out sugar yes yeah i'm not doing no sugar at all no sugar never sugar no sugar no no you can still do sugar yeah it's just not chocolate yes which is a certain item of sugar yes but you can do a donut yeah
Starting point is 00:29:05 well i couldn't because i'd die but you could do you could do a donut or you could do some sweets yeah we could do as you said a twister yes you know that's so i think yeah because when you do go cold turkey it then that is when you're just going to be like oh fuck it give me one yeah do you know what yeah and then you go too far in the other direction and you have like 50 cream eggs. Yeah, you have five of them and you're like, do you know what I mean? You're giving it up.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I also thought something that's quite good to consider. Yeah. Talking about the having five. Yeah. When you slip up, because ultimately you will. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Or you'll have a moment of weakness that is like, that's likely to happen. Yeah. Get back on track quickly yes so so say i've given up the chocolate again and i have a night where i'm like oh give me a cream egg yeah fine it's a wednesday and now i'm like well for the rest of the week i'm just gonna have to have cream ace and i'll start next week yes don't do that yeah don't do that a new day
Starting point is 00:30:02 a new dollar a new day a new opportunity yes you know yeah if you've got 40 days today is another day that you can tick off to be like i did that day yes yeah but if you're doing a week then you're gonna have to wait another week of not eating it exactly when you slip off the track which is natural we all do it so don't hate yourself for it try get on the track yeah habits are literally ingrained in our bodies. Yeah, yeah. We have literally been conditioned and there are some things that stick more than others, like brushing your teeth, washing your hands,
Starting point is 00:30:30 stuff like that. I hope so. You know, like all your routines, the addition and the change of that will take time. Yeah. And I feel like there's that being easy on yourself. My favourite thing. Oh, tell me.
Starting point is 00:30:43 I read Atomic Habits atomic habits oh which is this book by a man called james clear oh okay best-selling book all about on how to make small small little changes or change your life gosh you should read this i've got it in my drawer if you want oh i'd love to yeah and it's talks about habit stacking oh that mean? So, for example, let's say I want to start doing gua sha every night. Yeah. And I want to do my gua sha before I go to bed. Yeah. You tie that in with a habit you already know you do.
Starting point is 00:31:16 So I know I brush my hair before I go to bed every evening. So I put my gua sha next to my hairbrush. Fantastic. And then you tell yourself, I can't brush my hair until I've done my gua sha next to my hairbrush fantastic so and then you tell yourself I can't brush my hair until I've done my gua sha and then you start doing that 21 days
Starting point is 00:31:30 as they say it takes to build a habit really and then all of it just becomes it becomes a natural ingrained yeah
Starting point is 00:31:35 how interesting so there were 21 days when we didn't brush our teeth there were 21 days when we didn't brush our hair right yeah see
Starting point is 00:31:43 and on that one of mine was which you've kind of done now, but make the habit or make the new thing you're trying to get rid of or whatever, make it fun to repeat. Yes. So say, for example, like, as you said, you're trying to do the run. Was it the runs? Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Physical, yeah. So I'm saying make that fun. Don't just say, oh, my God, I'm going to have to run. What does that mean? All right, I'm going to text Kit and see if she wants to do a 5K with me. That means at least we can chat the whole time. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Or do you know what? I'm going to save my favourite podcast to listen to to that so I can do that. Or do you know what? I'm going to run to my favourite coffee shop in Fulham so that I can have a little coffee there afterwards and meet up with Arch, whatever. Like just do it so that it can have a little coffee there afterwards and meet up with Arch, whatever. That's like, just do it so that it's not, it's not a punishment because it will become,
Starting point is 00:32:31 as you said, ingrained within you. Yeah. If you make it something you're enjoying. Positive reinforcement is so key. Yeah. And I feel like it's one of those things as well that I always see, like, you will not always be motivated to do it. No, you won't.
Starting point is 00:32:43 But most consistency over motivation always wins yeah like the amount you agree the amount of times i've always it's more so with gym stuff if i don't want to go to the gym i start bargaining with myself where i'm like okay well like okay maybe if i don't go maybe i could go on sunday and then i think actually okay what if i go today i don't have to do the workout i've got planned yeah if i go today i have to stay for 10 minutes and then i can go yeah and by the time you get there and you're down there you're like might as well I might as well do another yeah exactly so it's always just consistency you owe it to yourself and future self will thank you you do yeah and on that as well I was talking
Starting point is 00:33:19 as the other day at work with girls I was talking about running and they said okay so how did you get into running and and one of the girls said who enjoys running as well now she says no one who runs originally enjoyed running like it it was something that you did so you just continued doing yeah and then you started enjoying and then I thought you know what that's true about everything like green tea I didn't originally like green tea yeah but i was like i'm gonna drink green tea now i bloody love it well matches yeah didn't originally like match and now i can't get enough of the stuff yeah so i'm just like if you make a thing you will just enjoy it yeah you know and people like how how do you have black coffee i just always drink black coffee yeah it's like that yes absolutely so we are now on to our next segment which we are calling the
Starting point is 00:34:06 segment it is which is out with the old or in with the new so we have some debrief dilemmas yeah whether do you stay with the old yeah do you go with the new fantastic out with the old in with the new so we're here to answer all your dilemmas that you've sent through. And gosh, people actually sent ones that I'm like, bloody hell. Like, sometimes they listen to the debrief and I'm like, yeah, yeah, I get you. Other times I'm like, I wouldn't like to be in that situation. I'm just like, okay, but this is why we're here. This is why we're here. We got one of the best texts this week from a girl saying, it was so sweet.
Starting point is 00:34:42 She was like, why do I need a therapist when I've got you two? And I was like, darling, I love that. I'm not going to take away from therapy because it, it was so sweet. She was like, why do I need a therapist when I've got you two? And I was like, darling, I love that. I'm not going to take away from therapy because it's very, very good. It's very, very great. Very, very good.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And I would recommend a therapist to anyone. But I thought, if we can make you chuckle, we can make you chuckle. We're all right. Yeah. So I'm going to give you one.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Are you ready? Yeah. So someone wrote in to me, as always, girls will keep it anonymous and boys. Yeah, we need to remember to say that. Hey girls, I have a habit of texting my ex-boyfriend every single time I have a sip of alcohol. Honestly, you could use a pipette as a single drop in my system. That is so funny.
Starting point is 00:35:22 And instantly I'm texting him. So, the positives are that he is obsessed with me. I broke up with him, by the way. So whenever I'm drunk, he will compliment me, make me feel like hot shit, and sometimes we will sleep together. Okay. However, the negatives are that he then presumes
Starting point is 00:35:37 I'm his booty call, which I kind of am, but only if I've had alcohol, I seem to want him. He only wants me as friends with benefits anyway so it's not like i'm hurting anyone's feeling but i don't really know what to do what do you think should i let him go should i let the alcohol girl thanks girls do i get my groove on or shall i groove away oh oh she's like yeah she's like come over now i i think in the long run you moved to the new really but i'm also like maybe because if you said there's no feelings like maybe just enjoy the friends with bennies you know what i mean like enjoy yourself but if you feel like it's
Starting point is 00:36:23 one of those things you're noticing this and you don't like that it's happening yeah then i would try and make a conscious effort to stop yeah but it seems like if you don't mind it seems harmless because she said that he just wants her with friends with benefits yeah which is fine the only harm is if he's like come over and she's like why would would I go over? I haven't had alcohol. Like, that's slightly worrying that she needs alcohol to like him. Because you'd want to like someone just them, not with alcohol in your system. And you can find friends with Bennys anywhere. Yeah. Because I don't think, I'm not sure this is a friends with benefits.
Starting point is 00:36:59 I think it's just like when you're drunk, you want him. Yeah. Yeah, I get that in the sense he knows you so well. Yeah, I get that. He knows you and you know he's going to gas you up and you know you've had this. He's safe. Yeah, he's safe.
Starting point is 00:37:11 You've been very vulnerable together. You've had that time shared together. You were boyfriend and girlfriend. Like, he is someone you're comfortable around. Yeah. Of course. I would say that if you're looking for the friends with benefits, I would say in with the new is that keep? with benefits i would say in with the in with the
Starting point is 00:37:25 news that keep or out with i'm not sure in with the new in with the new out the old limit yeah because i'm like it's not it's harmless yeah it's someone that you trust it's someone that knows you yes that you feel safe with at least you're having a one night stand or whatever it is and you know the guy yeah thinking where am i i'm gonna have to text my mom home yeah you know where you are he knows where you are like all that kind of stuff you trust each other fine but if you're like oh my god no i don't want a friends of benefits i would say move on yeah i would say out with the old yeah out with the old yeah so it only depends on what spectrum you want from that yeah yeah i agree okay so hi girls a guy i've been seeing recently keeps calling me a beg. Always seemingly
Starting point is 00:38:09 in a jokey way, but he seemed to make a habit of it. Excuse me? Like, if I try to be affectionate, he goes, oh, the beg's here. And I don't know, it just makes me feel icky. I really like him, and I feel like he is joking should I confront him and stay or should I just go the bag is here I would cry excuse me I would cry oh my god I'm telling you if anyone said that not even the guy I was seeing like if a friend if I turned up to a great hey guys are the bag's here I'd be like excuse me what oh oh the bag's here
Starting point is 00:38:46 the bag the bag excuse and and it's like ten times worse that guy you're seeing is saying that
Starting point is 00:38:51 personally I'm like out with the old what the fuck is that about out with the old I'm like if you really like him
Starting point is 00:38:58 have a discussion but he needs to stop this bag thing no because why are you calling me a bag part of me feels like sometimes you know when guys overcompensate when they're nervous with someone yeah and then they just still like
Starting point is 00:39:08 you fucking bitch and then they're like oh yeah and like part of me feels like it's that maybe it's that so maybe try and have another conversation and be like listen if you call me that again it's that's it that's it that's it yeah okay i like that but i would personally i'm like if you've already had a conversation with me still oh no it was banter like it's not honestly take it take a break darling like i would you're annoying me like you're not funny bags here oh the bags here in front of other people as well because it can be said once as a couple you know like oh don't be a bag it's so undermining but in front, you know, like, oh, don't be a beg. It's so undermining. But in front of people, I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Like she said when she tries to be affectionate. So I'm like, imagine if they're in a group and she goes to give him a hug. You're like, oh, here she is. Oh, no, no. The beg. No, no, no. Of course. I tell you.
Starting point is 00:39:57 I cry. I'd never touch a man again. No, I would become a nun. I'll give you nothing now. That's it. That's it now. I'll give you nothing. No sex. On a nun. I'll give you nothing now. I would. That's it. That's it now. I'll give you nothing. No sex.
Starting point is 00:40:07 On a ban. None. Never. Again. None. Okay. Oh my God, that's so funny. Let me read out another one.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Hey. It's a bag. Oh, I love when the girls write in because I'm just like, what? What the fuck? Okay, so this is a fantastic. Okay. Well, I shouldn't say fantastic,
Starting point is 00:40:26 but I'm like, okay. Tricky, tricky. That's the word. Hi, Kitty and Katie. It's sort of a new feeling, but I don't know if I need to break out of this. So I really need to debrief with you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:37 What do you think to this shit show? A year ago, I bought a house with my boyfriend. It's in quite a rural area in my countryside, near to both of our family homes. His family lives 20 minutes away and mine live 30. Fantastic. My boyfriend works from home and I work nearby. We bought this house about a year ago in the plan to do it up. We are about halfway through the work. However, it should be done by 2025 Christmas. Oh, lovely. However, I've had a bit of an epiphany.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Oh, no. There is no fucking way I want to spend the rest of my 20s in the rural countryside without any social life. I want to move to London, live young, wild and free. I couldn't care less about this house. But every single night we have things to move to London, live young, wild and free. I couldn't care less about this house. But every single night we have things to do with it, plan out of the kitchen, paint the walls, redo the decorating, whatever, you get it. I honestly want out all of this together.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I love my boyfriend so much and he loves this house. But I can't stand it. Honestly, I walk around saying bad things to the house. That's how much I hate it. So boring. And who wants to live here in your 20s? Please help me. What should I do?
Starting point is 00:41:53 I hope this doesn't come across as ungrateful, but I really feel lost. Thanks, girls. Okay. Shit. Imagine. Shit house. Stupid windows.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Fucking stupid door. Look at look at you imagine that's like doing the fight on your own yeah you think you're better than me why are you looking at me curtains you're taking away my 20s no i'm taking away my life mug of me oh my god that's so funny that's such a hard one you're you're tied into this you are financially and legally you're tied in to this. You are financially and legally, you're tied in. Maybe there could be... I'd love to know how old she is. She's in her 20s, but I'd love to know. Maybe there could be an option.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Oh, go on. This is going to finance you. Yeah. Big mama's coming in. Big mama will look after you. Maybe there's an option in which you could rent the house out for a period of time and discuss potentially moving to London. Yeah, that is not. Maybe there's potentially like I know it might be pressing, but if it's not going to be done till Christmas 2025, why don't you discuss moving this year?
Starting point is 00:43:00 Living in London for a few months whilst the renovations are being done. Great idea. Then you can go check on it every so often. Yeah. But then you could be like, look, before we settle in, maybe you can have that experience and try and move to London this year. Yeah, okay. I like that option.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Before it's done. Yeah. I think definitely the first thing you need to do, darling, you need to tell your boyfriend. Yeah, fuck. Because if he's loving this house. That's really sad. If he's humping against it,
Starting point is 00:43:26 if he's like rubbing his penis, you're like, hate these walls and he's like rubbing his anus against it. Like, you know, you're on very different vibes. So the first thing you need to do is have a really open
Starting point is 00:43:40 and honest conversation. Yeah. I wouldn't say, but don't be as open and honest as you were to us like i wouldn't say be like i hate the house i could think of nothing worse who would want to live here i walk around hating the house yes but i would sit sit down and be like look i'm really struggling with something yeah and the way i would put it in is say i'm so because clearly she sounds
Starting point is 00:43:59 she still wants to be with the boyfriend yeah so just say i love you so much i'm so proud of what we're doing here yes we've bought our new house that's so exciting yeah and it's going to be done for Christmas that's so great although I do still feel there's a little bit of me that's craving more of a social life and that potentially I would love to live in a city rather than a country that I'm not sure I'm fully ready for that yes Yes. What do you think? I think just open that door up before you start saying, right, we're moving to London. Fuck the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:30 You know, just open that. Because before you know it, he could say, oh, God, yeah, like we're renting it out. Yeah, yeah. You know, or he could just go, to be honest, it's been a bit too much work. We could sell it on. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:45 And it also could be one of those things he goes we could then do more of a social life let me be your designated driver like you go see the girls as many times as you want you know completely you don't have to necessarily move to increase that social aspect of your life yes you might just need a designated driver or taxis and then if you'd be like i'll pay for for him, I'll drive you. If he wants you to stay, he will facilitate that. Exactly. So I would say, in with the new.
Starting point is 00:45:11 In with the new. Stick with what's happening. Yeah. Be honest, be open, be upfront. That's the best way to be. Yes. Don't run away from this. Don't hide away from this.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Because if you do, all you're going to do is take it out on him. And it could then damage your relationship. Yes what have you got one this one this one makes me fucking cruise okay tell me okay hi girls yeah been loving tuning in every week you always make my mondays so much better oh i have a bit of a sticky one or shall we say icky situation and would love your advice please keep me anonymous okay my boyfriend and i have been together for almost a year and a half we had an instant spark and it truly feels like we never left the honeymoon phase he's funny caring affectionate truly everything i would want in a partner oh nice however oh no it's the belly button situation again recently he's picked up
Starting point is 00:46:05 the phrase darn tootin i wish i was joking no at first it was funny but now it's kind of giving me the egg he says it everywhere oh no we were even having sex the other night and i said you like that and i shit you not he says don tootin i ask if we need anything from the shops and he says don tootin he says if i try to he says if i try to confirm any plans even if i ask him if he loves me he says don tootin no i've tried politely to tell him to stop and that the joke was getting boring. Darn tootin. And then he got really defensive
Starting point is 00:46:49 saying that's just his humour but I've genuinely never seen him behave like this before. Am I being irrational or should I just cut my losses? Okay, the first thing
Starting point is 00:46:58 I think. That's the ick. It's really icky. That's the ick. The first thing I'm going to say is I'm going to be anecdotal here
Starting point is 00:47:04 and relate to you darling. Archie thing I'm going to say is I'm going to be anecdotal here and relate to you, darling. Archie says IKR all the fucking time. And I love this boy to death. I love him so much. It's the most annoying thing he does. And I genuinely don't even look at him when he says it because I'm like, it's like a toddler. If you look at them, it encourages them.
Starting point is 00:47:19 But if you look away, he won't think that I've done it like he won't think that i've heard yeah and ikr it's like so i'll be i'll be like oh god it's so cold isn't it and be like ikr i know right i'm like it's the most irritating thing like i can't stand it i honestly can't stand it however he says it to wind me up sometimes and he says it to make me... Yeah. He knows for a fact that annoys me. If Darren Tootin is getting offended, that you're like, it's really annoying. I'm not being funny. He's getting butt hurt.
Starting point is 00:47:52 If you're literally riding him... And he's like, Darren Tootin. You like that? And he's like, Darren Tootin, I do. Fuck off. Why are you doing that? Also, is he doing an American accent? See, it's been spelled. would it be better if he was like
Starting point is 00:48:06 darn tooting or no i hope so i feel like what it was though darn tooting or darn to darn tooting uh because it's been spelled like darn tooting like you're talking in a southern accent like oh you're darn tooting i hope for your sake it is darn tooting because if i was having sex with a guy and i was like oh you like that and he's like darn tooting oh my god no no i would be out the door no i'm not being funny darling but i'm not out with the old i'm like go go go if he's getting but if he's getting precious why are you getting precious being like, that's just my humour.
Starting point is 00:48:47 All right. Why are you so fragile? Like, be funnier. Why don't you try that? Why are you doing that, though? Be funnier. Yeah. But if he's doing it all the time,
Starting point is 00:48:56 like during sex, that's the worst. No, that's bad. That's bad. Especially if he thinks that he's being funny and you're just like, this is the least funny thing when you're literally
Starting point is 00:49:07 inside me that's terrible Darren Tootin Darren Tootin no oh my god try my try what I do though
Starting point is 00:49:16 don't give it attention like a dinosaur because because if he thinks it's his humour and if he thinks he's being funny then if you give him
Starting point is 00:49:24 nothing then he'll be like that's not that funny try it if he thinks he's being funny, then if you give nothing, then he'll be like, ah, it's not that funny. Try it. If he's like, you say Don Tootin', I'll give the reaction. Okay, ask me a question,
Starting point is 00:49:32 I'll say Don Tootin'. Okay. Oh, are you ready to go? Don Tootin'. Just try as you might. I'll do it. I'll do it. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:49:40 No, you do it. Okay. Are we leaving at seven? Oh, Don tootin'. Just, honestly. That's it, that's my man. Just look away. Look away.
Starting point is 00:49:52 They don't exist. Don't give any attention. He's a toddler. Just see him as a toddler. Okay. Nope, I'm not giving any. Okay, shall we go on to that? Let's crack on.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Let's go on to it. Okay, so I think I have two it's. Oh my God, I've got one. Okay. So I'll ping pong you. You ping Oh my God, I've got one. Okay. So I'll ping pong you. So you ping pong me. Give me a second. Let me have a look.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Habit that does cringe me. Yeah. Baby voices. Fuck off.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Oh my God, my baby. Get in the bin. Beep, beep, beep. Oh, baby, beep, beep. Get in the bin. We have a couple friend that do it in front of us. Oh my God, it's fucking disgusting. I'm not shitting you not. They're like, little baby, are. Get in the bin. We have a couple friend that do it in front of us. Oh my God, it's fucking disgusting. I'm not shitting you not.
Starting point is 00:50:27 They're like, little baby, are you okay? Shut the fuck up. Little baby, are you okay? You're an adult. Oh, little baby,
Starting point is 00:50:32 say his name's like Pete. Oh, Petey Weety's upset. And I'm like, Petey Weety. Petey Weety. I'm like, you're in public. You're in public, darling.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Fucking control yourself. You're in public. Control yourself. For me, I'm like, we all get accustomed to being cutesy with our partner when it's the two of us fine but in public weird get a grip sociopathic actually yeah absolutely i'm gonna ping pong you yeah mine is and this is specifically men because i'm like clearly you've had this habit from when you were a child
Starting point is 00:51:05 sorted out oh god what men who tuck their napkin into their shirt like a bib i'm like are you are you a are you a baby boy are you five are you five years old when they're like oh best get to eat i never do that again i would rather you spill something down your top no i can't take it like a fucking champ i can't then have a fucking napkin bib no no if i went on a date and he was one step before napkin bib it's like they have no control that's what it is yeah they're just so sloppy they can't trust themselves they can't trust themselves that's disgusting no i can't trust them. That's disgusting. No, I can't do it. Ready? Yeah. Okay. So my last one is, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:51:53 but when men call their parents mommy and daddy, I'm just like, I find it really hard. Mommy. Fuck off. I'm not going to say men. I'm going to say the men I date. If I dated a man that was like, mommy, mommy, mommy. i had a shiver down my
Starting point is 00:52:07 spine just a second sorry mummy's talking what did you say mummy i'd be like i i couldn't no i couldn't i i find it at all then i see in my head is you as a baby. I see you as mummy, pick me up. And I'm like, ah. No. You're a full grown man. You're a grown man. Call her your mother. She is your mum.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Oh, mum. Treat her, mum's lovely. I think mum's so. You okay, mum? Yeah. When, I tell you the most attractive thing is when men, boys are respectful to their mums. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Oh, I love it. There's nothing great to turn on. I'm like, how lovely is that? Yeah. Mummy was past mummy's gone mummy's long gone it's mother now it's mother mother dearest in the building okay yeah my mother darling mother darling mother darling mummy no no no stop it right should we go on to questions questions question i'm serious. I've got serious. Help me. So my question to you is, do you think that toxic people are a result of bad habits they've collected throughout their life, or if that is just the way they are?
Starting point is 00:53:17 That's just their personality and that can't change. What do you think? That's such a good question, to which I will say I think it's all to do with experience. So I would say I don't think anyone's born. I genuinely don't think anyone's born evil. I just don't think you can be like an innocent child. You can't be born evil.
Starting point is 00:53:37 But the things that have happened, yes, you can be born with different things that can affect you, you know, that can make you feel different ways or that can make you act a different way but that's not evil that's just a personality so that does influence you but that's not evil at all what I do or toxic sorry talk it's all about experience I personally think if someone's a toxic person if they act in a toxic way it's because they've experienced a certain thing i always felt that a guy i used to know was very very toxic and because every single one of his girlfriends had cheated on him yeah every single one yeah that's gotta grind you down yeah you know and although i was like god he is a bit much when i found out every single girlfriend had cheated on him i was like ah kind of makes sense
Starting point is 00:54:25 you know and obviously that's just a minor thing people can go through so much more in their life and be manipulative yeah yeah but I do think
Starting point is 00:54:33 it's from it couldn't it's maybe not even personal experiences and it happened to you but if you had a bad family life like if you saw your parents
Starting point is 00:54:40 always arguing or I don't know but I really do think toxic a toxic person is through experience yes what do you think yeah I think it's habits from they've seen from experiences that have caused them to behave that way but I think what is the lack of willingness to change change that yeah or maybe the lack of willingness or the lack of knowledge that it's a bad thing.
Starting point is 00:55:07 They're like, well, it's normal. I've seen it all my life. And it's also awareness. I feel like I've been around a lot of people recently that are so rude. Yeah. So rude and love to undermine and belittle people. And I genuinely sit there and wonder, are you aware of A, how you're coming across right now and B, that you are actively doing this? And I always find that when I come across people who are just so rude and so horrible that I'm like, are you aware that you are not coming across well right now?
Starting point is 00:55:39 And I genuinely think there are two categories of the people that do and the people that don't. I don't think there's a grey area. I don't think there's a grey area. No. I do not think there's a grey area. No. People know what they're doing. Yes. And some people are just so unaware.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Yes. They are so unaware. You know, that they've, and that could be for many different reasons. Yeah. But I genuinely think you do or you don't. Oh. Oh, really? I'm not.
Starting point is 00:56:01 No, you did. People know. They know. People know. Okay. So I'm going gonna ask you the silly question silly silly so would you rather every single one of your friends that you have yeah do all of your habits all of your bad habits to the extreme oh so give me one of your bad
Starting point is 00:56:20 habits right now biting my fingernails okay so when you're with them yeah they do them to the extreme so that ripping off nails oh my god they're like every single one of your friends every single time you know how you do that with your hair you make your hair every single one of your friends when they're with you they're matting their hair like to the extreme okay when you eat you always do this afterwards oh i've started to really notice this. Throughout the whole meal, they're like to the extreme. They're doing this. Oh God.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Every single one of your friends or, or, wait for it, wait for it, or copy your habits. Every single one of your friends copy your habits.
Starting point is 00:56:59 So whenever you do your habit, they do the same. Oh. And then when you stop, they'll stop. And it's not bad habits, any habit. so say your habits is flicking your hair they're like so it didn't have to be bad habits it's all habits say if your habit is waking up going to the gym if they do exactly the same they're like right got to get that habit done that Katie does so it's either copying every single one
Starting point is 00:57:22 of your good habits with you or doing or every single one of your friends doing your bad habits to the extreme i would rather my friends do my bad habits to the extreme because i feel like we can make a joke the the thing i can't stand is when people copy and i'm also like i i am the people i am. Yeah. It's not because they have like, they're exactly like me. Yeah. It'd be quite the opposite. I actually sometimes think if I met me, would I be friends with me? I feel like I'd take a while to like, it's one of those things.
Starting point is 00:57:57 If you met yourself, would you be like, oh, I'm a fucking legend. I get on with you. Love ya. Yeah. Because I feel like you want to be around people that inspire you and make and motivate you and make you want to do more yeah i would hate it if all my friends were like oh we'll just do what you do i'm like don't do that yeah no don't don't do that okay yeah i see what you mean i'd be like no because i also want to look to you yeah if i went to you being like oh i'm thinking about doing this but oh me too i'd be like oh no but what
Starting point is 00:58:24 would you think about your opinion yeah yeah okay so that's it and i feel like it could be quite funny yeah like if they will and then oh god is that how like i can't applause how hilarious and then we could sit and sit and joke you know okay what do you think oh i'm exactly the same yeah yeah i'm exactly the same i i could i cannot have them like right i'm going to the right i'll come for a run too no no and also doing my habits to extreme it's also kind of taking the piss of me so i kind of like that yeah like it's with love yeah exactly yeah okay alas that'll be the end i take my cap off and say goodbye to the followers guten nag guten abend okay yeah is that good night i don't know i thought i thought it was guten nag but i just really doubled down i
Starting point is 00:59:14 wasn't 100 percent there you weren't quite sure all right guys i hope you have a lovely monday have a great one guys listen to us on spotify apple Podcast. Email us. Email us, please. Go to Instagram, DM us. We're always there for you guys. We want to hear it all. We want to hear it all. Every little thing. Absolutely. We'll be ready for it.
Starting point is 00:59:32 That's why we called the debrief. Oh, yeah. There's nothing holding us back. We thought about it, guys. All right, guys. Have a great week. Bye. Bye.
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